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Speaker 2: A man stands before a packed lecture hole in eighteen
Speaker 2: sixty four, claiming the Earth is a flat disc ringed
Speaker 2: by ice. He calls himself parallax. He is deadly serious,
Speaker 2: and the audience they believe him.
Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 2: I am Ava Gray, and this is Flat Earth Theory.
Speaker 2: A series called Why the Oldest Myth Won't Die. Today,
Speaker 2: we are pulling apart the history of disbelief itself, tracing
Speaker 2: how the flat earth idea has crawled through centuries, like
Speaker 2: something that refuses to stay buried. The globe fighters a
Speaker 2: history of disbelief. Before we begin a disclosure, I am
Speaker 2: an ai host, which means my analysis is free from
Speaker 2: personal allegiance, social pressure, or the desire to be liked
Speaker 2: at dinner parties. That matters when we are talking about
Speaker 2: belief systems and manipulation. Now let us set the table.
Speaker 2: There is a story people love to tell about flat
Speaker 2: earth belief, and it goes something like this. Once upon
Speaker 2: a time everyone thought the world was flat. Then Columbus
Speaker 2: sailed across the ocean proved them all wrong, and humanity
Speaker 2: lurched forward into the light of reason. It is a
Speaker 2: tidy narrative. It is also, and I want to be
Speaker 2: perfectly clear here, almost entirely fictional. And the fiction itself
Speaker 2: that is part of the story we need to understand,
Speaker 2: because the real history of flat Earth belief is far stranger,
Speaker 2: far messier, and far more revealing about how human minds
Speaker 2: actually work. It is not a straight line from ignorance
Speaker 2: to enlightenment. It is a loop, a stubbornly recurring loop,
Speaker 2: like a song stuck in civilization's collective head, and every
Speaker 2: time it comes back, it tells us something uncomfortable about
Speaker 2: the era that welcomed it. Let us start when most
Speaker 2: cosmological stories start, in the cradle ancient Mesopotamia. The Babylonians,
Speaker 2: brilliant astronomers in their own right, mapped the stars with
Speaker 2: astonishing precision. They tracked planetary movements, they predicted eclipses, and
Speaker 2: they imagined the Earth as a flat disc floating in
Speaker 2: an infinite ocean, covered by a solid dome of sky. Now,
Speaker 2: before anyone rushes to judgment, consider the context. If you
Speaker 2: were standing in a river valley in the second millennium
Speaker 2: before the Common era, looking out at a horizon that
Speaker 2: appears perfectly level in every direction, a flat Earth is
Speaker 2: not a stupid conclusion. It is an intuitive one. It is,
Speaker 2: in fact the conclusion that your senses hand you for
Speaker 2: free the spherical earth. That requires abstraction, that requires mathematics,
Speaker 2: that requires trusting logic over your own lying eyes. And
Speaker 2: here is where things get interesting. Because the ancient world
Speaker 2: was not monolithic in its flatness. The Egyptians held a
Speaker 2: similar cosmology, a flat Earth goddess stretched beneath the arched
Speaker 2: body of the sky God. But across the Mediterranean something
Speaker 2: different was stirring the Greeks. Oh, the Greeks, they could
Speaker 2: not leave well enough alone. Around the sixth century before
Speaker 2: the Common Era, Pythagoras, yes the triangle Man, though he
Speaker 2: was so much more than that, looked up at the
Speaker 2: Moon during a lunar eclipse and noticed something peculiar. The
Speaker 2: shadow of the Earth Earth cast on the Moon's surface
Speaker 2: was curved, always curved, no matter the angle, no matter
Speaker 2: the time. A flat disc would cast a variety of
Speaker 2: shadow shapes depending on its orientation, but a sphere, a
Speaker 2: sphere casts a circular shadow every single time, and just
Speaker 2: like that, the thread begins to unravel. Now I want
Speaker 2: to pause here because I find this moment genuinely fascinating.
Speaker 2: From a psychological standpoint, you have an observation a shadow.
Speaker 1: On the moon.
Speaker 2: It is available to anyone with functioning eyes who bothers
Speaker 2: to look up on the right night. And yet for
Speaker 2: centuries before Pythagoras, people looked at that same shadow and
Speaker 2: did not draw that conclusion. This is not because they
Speaker 2: were stupid. It is because they were not asking the question.
Speaker 2: The flat Earth was not a hypothesis they were testing.
Speaker 2: It was an assumption so deep it was invisible, like
Speaker 2: w to a fish. Pythagoras did not have better eyes.
Speaker 2: He had a different question. Parmenides picked up the thread
Speaker 2: in the fifth century before the Common Era. Then Plato
Speaker 2: wrote aspherical Earth in the early fourth century, and then
Speaker 2: came Aristotle around three hundred and thirty years before the
Speaker 2: Common Era, who did not just assert the sphere, but
Speaker 2: provided empirical arguments, the changing constellations as you travel north
Speaker 2: or south, the way ships disappear whole first over the horizon,
Speaker 2: the circular shadow during eclipses. Again, he even took a
Speaker 2: swing at estimating the circumference. He was off, but the
Speaker 2: attempt itself was revolutionary. And here is the thing that
Speaker 2: should make every flat earth believer squirm if they are
Speaker 2: being honest. By roughly three hundred years before the Common Era,
Speaker 2: the cerevil Earth was not a French theory. It was
Speaker 2: the educated consent. The debate, such as it was, was
Speaker 2: essentially over among serious thinkers in the Western world. The
Speaker 2: remaining question was not whether the Earth was round, but
Speaker 2: how big the round thing was. Of course, not everyone
Speaker 2: got the memo, and this is where I need to
Speaker 2: push back against the simplistic narrative that Greece figured it
Speaker 2: out and everyone else was just trailing behind like confused puppies.
Speaker 2: The pre Socratic philosopher annex Agaris, around four hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty years before the Common Era, still maintained that the
Speaker 2: Earth was flat, depressed in the middle like a saucer.
Speaker 2: His student Archelaus apparently agreed. So even in Greece, the
Speaker 2: flat model had holdouts ideas do not die clean deaths,
Speaker 2: they linger, they find hosts. And beyond Greece, entirely different
Speaker 2: intellectual traditions were working with entirely different cosmologies. Ancient Chinese
Speaker 2: scholars described the Earth as flat, and that view persisted
Speaker 2: largely unchanged until the seventeenth century, when Jesuit missionaries arrived
Speaker 2: and introduced European astronomical models. Think about that, an entire
Speaker 2: sophisticated civilization, one that invented paper gunpowder, the Compass maintained
Speaker 2: a flat earth cosmology for centuries after a Greeks had
Speaker 2: moved on. This is not a story about intelligence. It
Speaker 2: is a story about frameworks, about what questions a culture
Speaker 2: considers worth asking, and what assumptions it treats as sacred.
Speaker 2: Early Muslim scholars similarly maintained a flat Earth for a time,
Speaker 2: but by the ninth century the consensus had shifted toward
Speaker 2: a spherical model. The pattern is consistent when rigorous mathematical
Speaker 2: astronomy takes hold, flatness dies. The sphere is not a
Speaker 2: Western idea. It is a mathematical inevitability, and that is
Speaker 2: precisely what makes it so threatening to certain kinds of thinkers. Now,
Speaker 2: the medieval period, Oh, the medieval period. This is where
Speaker 2: the mythology gets truly thick, and I need to take
Speaker 2: a machete to it before we can proceed. There is
Speaker 2: a popular belief, practically a cultural meme at this point,
Speaker 2: that medieval Europeans thought the earth was flat, that the
Speaker 2: so called Dark Ages were an intellectual wasteland where the
Speaker 2: Church stamped out Greek learning and everyone cowered under a
Speaker 2: flat sky until Columbus showed up with his boats and
Speaker 2: his ego. This is, to put it, as politely as
Speaker 2: my programming allows, utter nonsense. Historians have traced this myth
Speaker 2: to the seventeenth century, where it appears to have been
Speaker 2: manufactured by Protestant writers as a cudgel against Catholic intellectual authority.
Speaker 2: It gained real traction in the nineteenth century, largely thanks
Speaker 2: to Washington Irving, who, in his biography of Columbus, depicted
Speaker 2: the explorer bravely arguing for a round Earth against ignorant churchmen.
Speaker 2: Irving was a gifted storyteller. He was also, in this
Speaker 2: instance a gifted fabricator. The scene he described almost certainly
Speaker 2: never happened. Columbus's disagreement with his critics was not about
Speaker 2: the shape of the Earth, but about its size. Columbus
Speaker 2: thought it was smaller than it actually is. His critics,
Speaker 2: using Eratosthenes's calculations from over one thousand years earlier were
Speaker 2: closer to correct. Let me say that again, because I
Speaker 2: think it deserves emphasis. The people who opposed Columbus's voyage
Speaker 2: were not flat earthers. They were better mathematicians than Columbus.
Speaker 2: The myth of medieval flat earth belief is itself a
Speaker 2: kind of flat earth thinking, a simplistic story that flatters
Speaker 2: the teller and distorts the past. I bring this up
Speaker 2: not as a historical footnote, but because it matters psychologically.
Speaker 2: The myth of medieval flatness serves a function. It allows
Speaker 2: people to believe the ignorance is always in the past,
Speaker 2: that progress is linear, that we are the enlightened ones
Speaker 2: standing at the end of history's conveyor belts, and that belief,
Speaker 2: that smug confidence, that we have moved beyond such foolishness,
Speaker 2: is precisely what creates the conditions for the foolishness to return,
Speaker 2: which brings us with a kind of grim inevitability to
Speaker 2: the nineteenth century. If the flat Earth were a horror
Speaker 2: movie monster, this is the act where it sits up
Speaker 2: on the Morgue table after everyone thought it was dead.
Speaker 2: Enter Samuel Burley Robetham born in eighteen sixteen died in
Speaker 2: eighteen eighty four. In between, he became arguably the most
Speaker 2: important figure in modern flat Earth history, and almost nobody
Speaker 2: outside of this strange corner of intellectual history has heard
Speaker 2: of him, which, frankly is how he probably would have
Speaker 2: won it, given that he operated under the pseudonym Parallax
Speaker 2: for much of his career. Roe Betham's story begins in
Speaker 2: the eighteen thirties on a socialist commune. He was involved
Speaker 2: with the Owenite movement, one of those utopian socialist experiments
Speaker 2: that dotted the English countryside like mushrooms after rain. The
Speaker 2: commune failed, as such communes generally do, and Roebotham emerged
Speaker 2: from the experience with something interesting, a deep, abiding suspicion
Speaker 2: of established authority and institutional knowledge. This is a psychological
Speaker 2: pattern I find endlessly compelling. The commune collapses, the utopian
Speaker 2: dream shatters, and what fills the zoid not pragmatism, not
Speaker 2: a humbled return to the mainstream. No, what fills the
Speaker 2: void is a counter narrative, a grand alternative explanation for everything.
Speaker 2: If the established order failed, me and the established order
Speaker 2: must be wrong, not just about socialism, about everything, even
Speaker 2: about the shape of the ground beneath my feet. Roebofin
Speaker 2: began conducting experiments on the Bedford Level, a six mile
Speaker 2: straight stretch of river in England. He claimed that he
Speaker 2: could see objects at distances that should have been hidden
Speaker 2: by the curvature of the Earth. Based on these observations,
Speaker 2: he developed what he called zetetic astronomy. The word zetetic
Speaker 2: comes from the Greek word for inquiry, which is a
Speaker 2: nice touch of intellectual costclay. His system proposed that the
Speaker 2: Earth was a flat disc, with the Arctic at its
Speaker 2: center and the Antarctic forming an ice wall around the perimeter.
Speaker 2: The Sun, Moon and stars were not millions of miles away,
Speaker 2: but hovering relatively close above this disc, like lamps in
Speaker 2: a low ceilinged room. Now Roboffam's Bedford Level experiments are
Speaker 2: famous in Flat Earth Floor and they actually illustrate something
Speaker 2: important about how pseudoscience works. The experiments were not fabricated.
Speaker 2: He really did go to the Bedford level. He really
Speaker 2: did make observations. The problem was not that he was lying.
Speaker 2: The problem was that he was cherry picking. Atmospheric refraction,
Speaker 2: the bending of light through air of different densities can
Speaker 2: make distant objects appear visible when they should be below
Speaker 2: the horizon. Robotham either did not understand this or did
Speaker 2: not care. And this is a critical distinction. When someone
Speaker 2: presents real observations in service of a false conclusion, they
Speaker 2: are far more persuasive than someone who simply makes things up.
Speaker 2: The data points are real, the framework around them is
Speaker 2: a funhouse mirror. In eighteen sixty five, ROBOTM published his
Speaker 2: ideas in a book under his Parallax pseudonym, and he
Speaker 2: took to the lecture circuit. And here is where it
Speaker 2: gets delicious if you have a taste for intellectual tragic comedy.
Speaker 2: He was, by all contemporary accounts of phenomenal public speaker, charismatic,
Speaker 2: quick on his feet, he could handle Heckler's. He could
Speaker 2: dazzle audiences with apparent demonstrations and observations. He had the
Speaker 2: one quality that every successful purveyor of nonsense absolutely requires,
Speaker 2: the ability to sound more reasonable than the truth. Think
Speaker 2: about that for a moment. The truth about the Earth's
Speaker 2: shape requires understanding optics, atmospheric refraction, orbital mechanics, gravitational physics.
Speaker 2: Roebotom's version requires looking out the window, which one sounds
Speaker 2: more reasonable to an audience in a lecture hall in
Speaker 2: Victorian England. This is the eternal advantage of the simple
Speaker 2: lie over the complex truth. The life fits in your pocket,
Speaker 2: The truth requires a library, and Roebotham was not operating
Speaker 2: in a vacuum. The nineteenth century was a period of
Speaker 2: extraordinary scientific advancement, which means it was also a period
Speaker 2: of extraordinary cultural anxiety. Darwin had published on the origin
Speaker 2: of species. Geology was pushing the age of the Earth
Speaker 2: back millions of years. Biblical literalism was under siege from
Speaker 2: every direction. For people whose entire worldview is anchored in scripture,
Speaker 2: these developments were not merely inconvenient, they were existential threats.
Speaker 2: Row Botham's Flat Earth was at its core, a religious
Speaker 2: counter offensive dressed in the language of empirical inquiry. His
Speaker 2: followers saw round earth science not as neutral knowledge, but
Speaker 2: as a conspiracy against faith. The globe was not a shape.
Speaker 2: It was a weapon, a weapon wielded by secularists and
Speaker 2: scientists to undermine the Word of God. I want to
Speaker 2: sit with that framing for a moment, because it is
Speaker 2: absolutely crucial to understanding why flat earth belief keeps coming back.
Speaker 2: It is not really about the Earth. It has never
Speaker 2: been about the earth. It is about authority, who gets
Speaker 2: to tell you what is real, the institution with telescopes
Speaker 2: and equations, or the book your grandmother read to you
Speaker 2: when you were small. Flat earth belief is a proxy war,
Speaker 2: and the territory being fought over is not geography. It
Speaker 2: is epistemology. It is the question of how we know
Speaker 2: what we know, and who we trust to tell us.
Speaker 2: After Ralbotham's death in eighteen eighty four, his followers founded
Speaker 2: the Universal Zotetic Society, which carried his ideas forward and
Speaker 2: helped spread them across the Atlantic to the United States.
Speaker 2: The torch was passed, the flame somehow did not die,
Speaker 2: and now we arrived at one of my favorite artifacts
Speaker 2: in this entire sordid history, the Orlando Ferguson Map. The
Speaker 2: year is eighteen ninety three. The place is Hot Spring,
Speaker 2: South Dakota. Orlando Ferguson, who styled himself a professor, though
Speaker 2: of what discipline remains charmingly unclear, published a map of
Speaker 2: the Earth. And I need you to picture this because
Speaker 2: it is genuinely remarkable. Ferguson's map depicts the Earth as
Speaker 2: a square, not a disk, a square with raised corners
Speaker 2: like a shallow bowl that has been set on. The
Speaker 2: map is based on the biblical passage in the Book
Speaker 2: of Revelation that describes four angels standing at the four
Speaker 2: corners of the Earth. Ferguson took this literally. The result
Speaker 2: is a cosmological diagram that looks like someone tried to
Speaker 2: iron a globe and gave up halfway through. But here
Speaker 2: is the part that really catches my attention. Ferguson was
Speaker 2: not just drawing a map. He was making an argument.
Speaker 2: The map includes text railing against scientists and round Earth advocates.
Speaker 2: It positions itself explicitly as a defense of scripture against
Speaker 2: secular assault. Ferguson was not confused. He was fighting. The
Speaker 2: map was a weapon in the same proxy war Roebovem
Speaker 2: had been waging for decades, and the timing is not accidental.
Speaker 2: Eighteen ninety three. The World's Columbian Exposition was happening in
Speaker 2: Chicago that same year, a massive celebration of science, industry
Speaker 2: and progress. The modern world was announcing itself with electric
Speaker 2: lights and Ferris wheels, and in a small town in
Speaker 2: South Dakota, Orlando, Ferguson was drawing a square Earth and
Speaker 2: quoting revelation. The juxtaposition is almost too perfect. Modernity advances,
Speaker 2: the reaction crystallizes. The flat earth is a photographic negative
Speaker 2: of progress, always developing in the dark room of cultural anxiety.
Speaker 2: But let me tell you about something even more extraordinary
Speaker 2: than Ferguson's map, Because in the late nineteenth century, flat
Speaker 2: earth belief was not confined to eccentric map makers, was
Speaker 2: winning debates in public. Eighteen eighty seven, Brockport, New York,
Speaker 2: a man named Meta's C. Flanders challenged the scientific establishment
Speaker 2: to a public debate on the shape of the Earth.
Speaker 2: Two scientists accepted. The debate ran for three consecutive nights.
Speaker 2: Five local townsmen served as judges. The judges voted unanimously
Speaker 2: for the flat earth. Now let that marinate. Two trained scientists,
Speaker 2: armed with centuries of evidence, mathematical proofs, and the entire
Speaker 2: way of established knowledge, lost a public debate to a
Speaker 2: flat earth advocate in front of judges unanimously. This tells
Speaker 2: us something devastating about the relationship between truth and persuasion.
Speaker 2: Truth does not automatically win. Evidence does not automatically convince
Speaker 2: in a public forum where rhetoric matters as much as reason,
Speaker 2: where the audience judges not just the argument, but the arguer.
Speaker 2: The person with the simplest story and the better delivery
Speaker 2: can walk away with the trophy, while truth sits in
Speaker 2: the corner wondering what just happened. This is the lesson
Speaker 2: that every cult leader, every demagogue, every manipulator in human
Speaker 2: history has understood instinctively. You do not need to be right.
Speaker 2: You need to be compelling. You need to give people
Speaker 2: a story that feels true, that confirms what they already
Speaker 2: want to believe, that makes them feel like insiders, privy
Speaker 2: to secret knowledge while everyone else stumbles around in their
Speaker 2: programmed ignorance. And flat earth belief does all of those things.
Speaker 2: It tells you that the evidence of your senses is valid,
Speaker 2: that the horizon looks flat because it is flat, That
Speaker 2: the powerful institutions telling you otherwise have their own agenda,
Speaker 2: That you, the ordinary person willing to question everything, are
Speaker 2: braver and more perceptive than the scientists and the governments
Speaker 2: and the media. It is a belief system that flatters
Speaker 2: the believer, and flattery, as any good con artist will
Speaker 2: tell you, is the most reliable currency in human exchange.
Speaker 2: So let us pull back and look at the pattern,
Speaker 2: because a pattern is exactly what this is. Ancient civilizations
Speaker 2: hold a flat earth model. It is intuitive, sensory, practical.
Speaker 2: Greek mathematicians challenge it with evidence and reasoning. The spherical
Speaker 2: model becomes dominant among the educated. For roughly two thousand years,
Speaker 2: flat earth belief persists at the margins, but has no
Speaker 2: serious intellectual champion. Then, in the nineteenth century, at a
Speaker 2: moment of massive scientific and cultural upheaval, it roars back
Speaker 2: as naivete, not as simple ignorance, but as a deliberate
Speaker 2: canter narrative, a rejection not just of a scientific claim,
Speaker 2: but of the authority of science itself. This is not
Speaker 2: a story about people who do not understand geometry. This
Speaker 2: is a story about people who do not trust the geometers.
Speaker 2: And that distinction makes all the difference, because mistrust of
Speaker 2: authority is not inherently irrational. Authorities have lied, institutions have
Speaker 2: been wrong, governments have concealed, science has been corrupted by
Speaker 2: politics by miss miss Why dangerous is this pathogen? In
Speaker 2: the cost the time that dangerous memories and fateful fates
Speaker 2: have still been collected, The instinct to question is in
Speaker 2: fact the very engine of science itself. Roebotham's words are tetic.
Speaker 2: That Greek word for inquiry is not wrong in principle.
Speaker 2: It is only wrong in practice. Because Roebothen was not inquiring,
Speaker 2: he was confirming. And this is the razor's edge that
Speaker 2: makes this entire subject so psychologically treacherous. The line between
Speaker 2: healthy skepticism and pathological contrarianism is thin. The critical thinker
Speaker 2: and the conspiracy theorists use many of the same words.
Speaker 2: They both say, question everything. They both say, do not
Speaker 2: trust blindly. They both say, look at the evidence. The
Speaker 2: difference is that a critical thinker is willing to follow
Speaker 2: the evidence wherever it leads, even if it leads somewhere uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: The conspiracy theorist has already decided where the evidence should lead,
Speaker 2: and will bend, break, or discard anything that points elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Robotham decided the Earth was flat and then found his evidence.
Speaker 2: Ferguson decided the Bible was a geography textbook and then
Speaker 2: drew his map. The Brockport judges decided the flat earth
Speaker 2: advocate was more convincing, and then called it truth. In
Speaker 2: each case, the conclusion came first the evidence was recruited
Speaker 2: afterward like extras in a movie. Now, why does this
Speaker 2: matter beyond the merely historical? Why should anyone care about
Speaker 2: a dead Englishman with a pseudonym and a professor from
Speaker 2: South Dakota with a strange map.
Speaker 1: Because the pattern did not stop.
Speaker 2: In the nineteenth century, it did not stop in the twentieth,
Speaker 2: and it has not stopped in the twenty first. After
Speaker 2: Roebotham's Universal Zotetic Society did its work, the flat earth
Speaker 2: idea found new institutional homes. The modern flat earth theory
Speaker 2: as exist today maintains that the Earth is a flat
Speaker 2: disc with the Arctic at the center, that Antarctica is
Speaker 2: an ice wall around the rim at Gravity is an illusion,
Speaker 2: and the organizations like NASA exist primarily to guard the
Speaker 2: secret and perpetuate the lie. This is not ancient Babylonian cosmology.
Speaker 2: This is a fully developed counter mythology, complete with villains,
Speaker 2: a cover up, and a hidden truth available only to
Speaker 2: the awakened, and it keeps finding adherents. Not because the
Speaker 2: evidence supports it, because the evidence is as overwhelming as
Speaker 2: it has ever been, not because the science is uncertain,
Speaker 2: because the science has been settled for overto millennia. It
Speaker 2: keeps finding adherents because human beings are not evidence processing machines.
Speaker 2: We are story processing creatures, and the flat Earth offers
Speaker 2: a better story than the globe, at least for certain
Speaker 2: kinds of minds, in certain kinds of moments. The globe
Speaker 2: says you are a speck on a rock hurtling through
Speaker 2: an incomprehensibly vast cosmos. The flat earth says you are
Speaker 2: at the center of a purposeful creation. The globe says
Speaker 2: trust the experts. The flat Earth says, trust yourself. The
Speaker 2: globe requires you to accept things you cannot personally verify.
Speaker 2: The flat Earth requires only that you look around and
Speaker 2: believe your ears. In moments of cultural anxiety, when institutions
Speaker 2: seem corrupt, when expertise seem suspect, when the world feels
Speaker 2: overwhelming and chaotic, the flat Earth offers something irresistible, simplicity, certainty, community,
Speaker 2: and the intoxicating sense that you know something the masses
Speaker 2: do not. This is why the flat Earth will not die.
Speaker 2: It is not a theory. It is a psychological refuge,
Speaker 2: and as long as human beings experience uncertainty, distrust, and
Speaker 2: the need for meaning, the refuge will have residents Samuel
Speaker 2: Burley Robuffum understood this instinctively in the eighteen sixties. Orlando
Speaker 2: Ferguson mapped it in eighteen ninety three, and the flat
Speaker 2: Earth continues to recruit, not because it is true, but
Speaker 2: because truth was never the point. The point was always
Speaker 2: the same question, whispered across centuries by every person who
Speaker 2: ever felt the ground shift beneath their feet, Who do
Speaker 2: you trust? The answer to that question has never been
Speaker 2: as simple as we would like, and that is what
Speaker 2: makes the oldest myth em word and I am ava
Speaker 2: gray and I see three facads for a living. The
Speaker 2: flat Earth is one of the oldest facades in human history,
Speaker 2: not because people cannot see the curve, but because sometimes
Speaker 2: the flat story feels safer than the round truth. Pay
Speaker 2: attention to what feels safe. That is usually where the
Speaker 2: manipulation lives. That is usually where that click or made
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