WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:20.399 Yo, what's going on? 2 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:23.000 Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My Canicass. I'm Cannon, Dave, 3 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:25.679 I'm Greevy. On today's episode, we have a special guests, 4 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:30.640 uh what's called you might as well? We got Matt on. 5 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:33.280 How's it going today, Matt good Man? Are you guys 6 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:33.920 doing pretty good? 7 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:34.520 Doing pretty good? 8 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:36.960 I appreciate you joining us, looking forward to diving in 9 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:38.840 and getting to know, getting all your back history within 10 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:41.439 cannabis and then uh, talk about where you're working and 11 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:43.439 then the events that you're throwing, because that's that's why 12 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:45.079 we wanted to bring you on, because it's we're at 13 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.159 your Halloween one and it was pretty sweet. Looking forward 14 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:50.399 to diving in more into that. But let's let's get 15 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:51.679 the people know a little bit about you. What do 16 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:57.200 you What got you in the cannabis? Good cannabis? 17 00:00:57.240 --> 00:00:59.719 Like, Uh, so I came up with brick weed, you know, 18 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:02.399 back in the day, and so I understand what crap 19 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:05.120 cannabis is or brick weed or whatever you want to say. 20 00:01:05.879 --> 00:01:09.719 I found chronic and like this has been like two 21 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:11.680 thousand and three, two thousand and two something like that, 22 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:14.120 and like ever since, like I was always looking for 23 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:16.159 the best weed to smoke. And then it came we 24 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:20.000 got caregiver. We want caregiver with a medical and eight 25 00:01:20.079 --> 00:01:23.319 o nine. So at that time I'm like, okay, now 26 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:25.879 I got to grow the best cannabis. And so the 27 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:28.040 first like I don't know how deep you want to 28 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:29.519 get into it being the intro. 29 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:33.079 But like deep the first three years. 30 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:35.799 Maybe of myself growing weed, like from nine to twelve 31 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:39.439 something like that, I would like sell a bag of 32 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:41.439 my weed to buy a bag of somebody else's because 33 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:44.840 it was so terrible. I had no idea. I'd never 34 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:47.359 grown a plant at that point, had never grown anything. 35 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:50.079 Like I feel I got a lot of it. But 36 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:51.760 people think that they're just gonna get out there and 37 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:52.439 grow some chronics. 38 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:54.319 Yeah, no, it takes some strikes. Like you don't become 39 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:56.760 good at something by being just good at something. I 40 00:01:56.799 --> 00:01:59.719 swear the best people are driven by passion like talents 41 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:02.000 that's cool or whatever, But talent comes from hard work 42 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:04.359 and consistency, you know what I mean. And failure, Oh, 43 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:07.239 lots of failure, lots of that, lots of learning exactly. 44 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:11.199 So uh, I was directed and taught by like the 45 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:15.280 gross store guy too, you know, like I I had 46 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:18.840 unreliable teachers that was more about the sale than the 47 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:21.840 teaching of how to actually grow good ship and like 48 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:23.879 back then there's like some forums and ship by like 49 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:27.479 there's paranoia everywhere too, right, that was just back in 50 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:29.800 the days where like if you had like five patients 51 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:32.800 under your caregiver, you were like on this special list, right, 52 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:35.919 like bro, like you were like everybody said, there's this 53 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:38.520 list that went around, right that the cops or the 54 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:40.879 state had that, like if you have remaxed out on 55 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:44.439 your kid caregiver, Like what's the deal there? So there's 56 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:46.840 always this paranoia. I would never look online. I would 57 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:49.400 never type anything we need into my phone, and like 58 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:52.080 like smartphones were like weren't like super smart yet either, 59 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:55.680 you know they were I don't think I don't think 60 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:03.439 Siri was out yet touch but yeah, so like it 61 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:05.879 was like learning through experience at that point, and I 62 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:08.000 had no idea what I was doing then, just making 63 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:11.000 like incremental changes throughout and like starting to get more 64 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:14.639 and more into it. And then uh so, like I 65 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:18.360 started getting better on twenty twelve and I started asking 66 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:20.080 with my wife and I were like, how can we 67 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:22.479 make the shed bigger? You know, like we had a 68 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:24.159 two lighter in there, like how can I make this 69 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:27.919 thing a little bit more? And I started like kind 70 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:30.479 of exploring different avenues. I didn't really know where I 71 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:32.039 was going with my life. I had been playing pro 72 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:35.759 poker professionally for a long time. Yeah, this was like yeah, 73 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:36.639 like I did a lot of. 74 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:38.520 A poker. 75 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:40.120 So I'm like, I'm like, this is the point in 76 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:41.800 my life where I'm like trying to figure out where 77 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:44.639 I'm going, right, Like what my direction. I'm going to school, 78 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:45.960 Like I was going to be a teacher, but I 79 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:48.080 couldn't pass the state test to be a teacher because 80 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:51.240 I dropped out of high school with freshman year sophomore 81 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:55.599 year and uh I didn't know like the geometry trigonometry 82 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:58.360 questions that were on this test. I'm like, I just. 83 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:00.280 Like whatever I'm going, we haven't a tea is we 84 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:04.280 need more poker plays? Right, I'm sorry, No, we need 85 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:04.840 more teachers. 86 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:08.120 I just thought that was fun, but no, that that's 87 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.520 super cool story. I mean, because honestly, you're going different ways. 88 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:13.639 You know, you're you sounds like you're being pulled. 89 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:15.400 Starting when I was starting a family, you know, I 90 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:17.600 had a young daughter. I was about to have a son, 91 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:20.439 and yeah, we were busy, you know, trying to try 92 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:23.360 to and I'm trying to find my way and broke right, 93 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:26.680 got nothing. And actually what I started my first girl with, 94 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:29.439 uh the extra student loan money that you would get 95 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:31.680 from school. You could get like an extra like four. 96 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:33.600 Or five thousand dollars and like you guys have way 97 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:36.279 too much Kountro Camray, y'all didn't even see it. 98 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:39.800 I'm just like, this is wild, Dave made Dude, I've 99 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:41.759 heard a super closet because I saw it in high times. 100 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:43.759 I did Hydro and I was like, I want to 101 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:45.439 grow so bad. I was living at my mom still, 102 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:46.879 and I was like, what's the only way I can grow? 103 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:49.279 To try to get a class and drop a class? 104 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:55.519 But that I got, I got. I got the debt. 105 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:57.439 I got the debt, But I also got the career, 106 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:00.439 actual career I was looking for out of it. So like, 107 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:03.000 even though it was like a fucking one percent of 108 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:04.680 the total death that I got out of it, but 109 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:07.519 still like I got the true education I was looking for. 110 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:11.920 Because in twenty fourteen, there was a certain growth store 111 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:14.160 that was moving from Brighton to Whitmore Lake, and if 112 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:16.959 you know, you know, and that was working for him 113 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:24.439 during that transition, and I built his sales department in uh. 114 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:30.079 I built his sales department, which it accumulated like a 115 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:32.240 lot of relationships with a lot of reps and stuff 116 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:33.879 that was going on. But I was also starting to 117 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:36.480 see like people come in every month and buy five 118 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:38.519 gallon jugs of like cal mag and A and B. 119 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:41.959 And I'm like why or how are these guys going 120 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:44.480 through so much nutrients? Like it wasn't registering to me, 121 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:46.319 like how are they doing this? And then it like clicked. 122 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:48.600 I was like, oh shit, And I started learning the 123 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:51.000 more like one plant, more on one light kind of 124 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:53.439 like style of grow right where we could be limited 125 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:56.199 by what our rules are. Our rules were seventy two plants, 126 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:58.519 so we maximize the shit out of those seventy two plants. 127 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:02.160 Other people's even today, right, it's the same same rule, 128 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:04.600 but like other people have plant count or a square 129 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:08.759 footage restrictions, and like you maximize what your rule is 130 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:10.879 so we can play within the law so we don't 131 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:11.439 get raided. 132 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:14.720 Yeah, absolutely, yeah that's true. 133 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:17.680 So like I mean exactly within the law and you're 134 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:18.759 able to capitalize on it. 135 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:21.279 Absolutely, So like twenty four I'm seeing this transition. I'm 136 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:23.920 seeing the shit happen. And then I meet a guy 137 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:26.759 because I was also cooking at the time. A guy 138 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:30.199 owned a restaurant in Brighton, and he put me onto 139 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:32.959 a spot he had an ionia. And if you don't know, 140 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:34.920 so I live in Brighton and whatever, you know where 141 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:37.480 I live, I On's ninety miles. 142 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:38.920 From pretty big city. They're not going to be now 143 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:39.600 I know he lives. 144 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:43.720 I only is ninety miles from Brighton. So that's where 145 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:48.040 my first like commercial trap caregiver spot was. I turned 146 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:50.959 that into a forty lighter. I was harvesting every other week, 147 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:54.920 and I was like, that was like my step from 148 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:59.639 backyard grower to okay, let's take this shiit seriously, you know. 149 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:01.720 I I started getting hints on like where the law 150 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:04.959 was going with this licensing stuff. I started learning about 151 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:07.959 that in like twenty fifteen sixteen, so like when legislation 152 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:11.120 was starting to get introduced for it, and I started 153 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:13.240 seeing the future of it. Obviously that everything that had 154 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:16.399 happened it happened in Colorado was like a good stepping 155 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:19.319 stone of obviously what was could be coming in the future. 156 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:22.879 And so I started just kind of learning and trying 157 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:24.240 to get the best out of it that I could 158 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:28.600 and learn and do it most efficiently, most effectively. And 159 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:31.920 like it was ninety miles from my house. It was 160 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:34.040 in Ionia. If you know anything about Ionia, there's not 161 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:37.120 much to it. I had no internet service. I had nothing, 162 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:40.800 so like I bought my first like from twenty fourteen 163 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:43.839 to sixteen, I had a hot spot like an AT 164 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:46.720 and C wireless hot spot, and the only thing that 165 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:50.480 could data drive was my thermostats. So all I ever 166 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:52.920 would have was my thermostats. So I'd look at my thermostats. 167 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:55.000 If the temperatures were up, I knew something was fucked up. 168 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:57.040 If the humidity was down, I knew something was fucked up, 169 00:07:57.040 --> 00:07:58.199 and I had to get get out there. 170 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:01.759 So so that's a cool way to analyze it, though, 171 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:03.720 like that's a really ingenuitive at the time. 172 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:05.519 Now you can do everything for my mapp. 173 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:07.240 No, you knew everything from app, And like if I 174 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:08.839 had internet over there, it'd be a lot easier to 175 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:10.399 I would ad sensors and other shit that I've been 176 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:12.199 able to look in on, or cameras and shit like that. 177 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:13.079 Right, that makes sense. 178 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:15.360 But I was trapping too, Like I was carrying like 179 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.600 ten to twenty pounds from Ionia then down to Detroit 180 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:22.399 allegedly whatever. Like the backpack days, right, Like you'd walk 181 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:24.079 in and with a backpack full of week and you 182 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:25.759 walk out with a backpack full of cash. And that 183 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:29.920 was like that was life for four years before licensing went. 184 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:31.879 On, and like many years before that, you know. I 185 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:32.600 mean that's what it was. 186 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:34.720 I mean that's what cannabis was pushed into because of 187 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:36.759 all the propaganda, you know, So like that's what it was, 188 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:40.120 and like paper's crazy to see how farther it's gone. 189 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:43.480 So like, and like I didn't trust anyone back then either, 190 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:45.799 so like I didn't really have anybody helping me run 191 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:47.879 a forty lighter, so I did all that shit by myself, 192 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.960 Like my wife would come help trim or like pull 193 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.320 plants down for a day or something like that. Bro 194 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.600 like it, but it hardened me. Like that's the thing 195 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:01.000 that like I'm in this transition of like trying to 196 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.279 really figure out this origin story and like the meat 197 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:05.320 and the potatoes of the story. And I think like 198 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:08.039 the big turning point for me was this weekend where 199 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:10.559 I had nobody, I had my biggest harvest that I had. 200 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:13.120 I had partners that were up my ass about money. 201 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:15.919 We were not making any money. We're barely breaking even. 202 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:18.799 I was paying myself like five hundred thousand bus a 203 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:21.080 week maybe, like just to make sure I could get 204 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:24.879 back and forth, like nothing was happening. And I ended 205 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:26.960 up working a fourteen hour day, a fourteen hour day, 206 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:29.039 and then a nineteen hour day, and I drove home 207 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:32.039 every time afterwards, and I went back out the next day. 208 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:35.720 And like that mentally, that grit, though, is what makes you, 209 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:37.919 like I feel like kind not deserve it per se, 210 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:40.000 but what makes you go through that hard time to. 211 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:43.000 Do the time that mentally broke me at that point. 212 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:47.759 And but that was like almost like a reawakening or 213 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:48.559 like a rebirth or. 214 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:51.080 Something out of that, right, like, yeah, yeah, that's interesting. 215 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:53.720 It was like it totally brought me into a completely 216 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:58.159 new stratosphere almost. And that was after I had gotten 217 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:00.679 raided and restarted in the exact same s we can like, 218 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:03.639 that's a whole nother story, another story they related up. 219 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:06.679 That's wow, man, I'm sorry to go through that as well. 220 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:09.000 It's all what got me to who I am today though, right, 221 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:12.159 Like So in we uh twenty eighteen, we went more 222 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:15.320 licensing and I made a shift into one company and 223 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:19.120 the grower from that company moved from Colorado to here, 224 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:21.279 and I made a good I had a good relationship 225 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:23.879 with him when he was out in Colorado. Uh, some 226 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:26.039 people know who that probably watched this who he is, 227 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:27.360 but I'm not going to stand your names or do 228 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:32.320 anything like that. So he turned into this complete lunatic 229 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:35.799 and like it was like the most toxic environment that 230 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:38.279 you'd ever walk into. And like this was like four 231 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:40.679 years of me running to grow a forty later by myself, 232 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:44.399 like refining my processes, and then you take that into 233 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:47.200 somewhere and like you're willing to share your experiences and 234 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:49.919 ideas and like tweak things and get things better, and 235 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:53.240 you're completely shunned and fucking looked down on and like 236 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:58.840 held back right, like everybody understands what that fucking glass 237 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:02.720 ceiling feels like. Like there there was this fucking could 238 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:04.120 not break through type of thing. 239 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:04.919 Uh. 240 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:07.279 But again that was like one of the things that 241 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:08.759 hardened me in too be a good boss that I 242 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:10.960 am today, Like I know that today and the girl 243 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:12.720 that I run with, the four dudes that we got there, 244 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:15.279 They're not coming in and having a bad day at work, 245 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:18.200 Like it just doesn't happen. Like everybody gets along with 246 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:19.879 each other, and if you didn't get along with each other, 247 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.879 I weaved out, like you got to fit within our 248 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:25.039 mold and like everybody has a good time when they 249 00:11:25.080 --> 00:11:27.399 come to work. There's no anxiety, there's no social anxiety. 250 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.559 There's no like like I used to drive up that 251 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:32.080 grow and see that dude's car and I was like, fuck, 252 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:34.519 here goes my day, right, Like it's. 253 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.919 Either exactly That's what I was gonna say. 254 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:43.080 Yeah, definitely, definitely. I definitely had to take a step 255 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:44.919 back after that one for a minute. But then I 256 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:49.279 also at that after that, uh, Minton Cannico started up. 257 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.200 He and I kind of like he had the building 258 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:55.200 and the structure, but he didn't have like the that, 259 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:57.759 if you lack of a better term, SOPs to kind 260 00:11:57.759 --> 00:12:00.360 of implement to kind of like get a go. So 261 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:03.559 that's where I kind of came in. Uh that relationship 262 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:08.480 ended however whatever, and then we went excuse me. Then 263 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:10.240 I went and uh, this was like post COVID, so 264 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:13.120 twenty twenty one, I found the guys that I'm with 265 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.360 now the building that they were building out, but it 266 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:17.919 wasn't like finished, so I got to put some of 267 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:21.200 my own touches on it. And uh, that brings me 268 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:23.039 kind of finally to where I am today with faded. 269 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:26.799 So that was the long the orige of the story. 270 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:28.080 I like it, man, that was a good that's a 271 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:31.519 good story. I appreciate that well. And then honestly, years 272 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:32.240 take us through the years. 273 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.240 It's when you think about it's like, that's literally how 274 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:34.440 it was. 275 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:35.960 And I want to ask you both something since this 276 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:37.960 is like I guess you guys are kind of molded 277 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:38.799 from the same cloth in. 278 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:43.240 The sense, but for going through the raid looking back. 279 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:44.600 Like because because I look back, the only thing I 280 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:46.840 can really too traumatic, Like I had my own DUI, Right, 281 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:48.480 that like kind of woke me up. But did do 282 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:51.240 you feel like that kind of like just repivot kind 283 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:52.759 of your whole strategy in this game? 284 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:57.320 I mean I quit for a while, so yeah, so 285 00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:58.879 I mean I kind of bounced out of it, but 286 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.159 then I came back in kind of you became. 287 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:03.879 A canadave, though right before that you weren't Canna dave. 288 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:05.960 You were growing with people and stuff, right, I almost 289 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:07.960 feel like you guys grew from this even though it 290 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:09.759 was Yeah. 291 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:10.679 For sure, I would say so for sure, it was 292 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:14.039 probably beneficial that it happened, I guess, right, and looking back. 293 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:15.840 Is always easier, right. I know there's a lot of 294 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:17.000 trauma to it and all that. 295 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:20.720 So for me, it was so easy for me to 296 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:23.120 jump into the license game. I know there was like 297 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:25.559 so much hate that event that came out, especially in 298 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:29.200 the beginning with like licensed cultivations, well cultivations versus caregivers 299 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:32.080 and like it like fucking respect the ship out of 300 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:35.080 the caregiver. I was a caregiver. I'll always defend the caregiver. 301 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:39.240 Million these organizations or groups, so they got together that 302 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:41.279 tried to squash it, like yeah, like it was a 303 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:47.039 or whatever. Yeah, you know, it never happened. They didn't win, right, 304 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:49.399 Like the rules still stood and they are what they are. 305 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:53.320 So I'll always have a special place in my heart 306 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:56.879 for a caregiver. But in my situation from getting raided, 307 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:59.840 having a family, wanting to move forward my life, I 308 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:01.960 didn't want to go to jail ever again, and like 309 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:05.039 that was like I'm what I if I have to 310 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:08.480 fucking pay fifty percent taxes and we don't pay that 311 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:11.399 but excise taxes or whatever the fuck they want, Like, 312 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:14.600 I will play your game in order to live my 313 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:15.440 life safely. 314 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:18.320 And I and one hundred percent he went the same route, 315 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:20.600 but he went super legit with the caregiver doesn't break 316 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:23.080 a single thing, like very legit. I was curious because, 317 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:25.639 like and also to shed some light on some people 318 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:28.080 who are still trying to paint this wall between caregivers 319 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:29.399 of metric. But at the end of the day, it's 320 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:31.480 a lot of them came from the same ship you did. 321 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:33.360 They just want their lives a little safer. So I 322 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:35.240 just wanted to shed some light from a perspective of, 323 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:37.039 like some shit you guys really went through. 324 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:39.120 That's why I wanted for it to go legal so 325 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:41.799 bad in eighteen and my dreams eventually give my flower 326 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:44.360 and market getting in a grow or something that be dope. 327 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:46.840 I just, I just I wonder if that was stem 328 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:48.440 from that. I was curious, and I think I think, 329 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:49.559 thank you for your sharing. 330 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:51.159 You shouldn't have you shouldn't have to go to jail 331 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:52.840 for we No, no, you know, it's like the worst. 332 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:54.360 And like I said, I'll play the game if you 333 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:55.919 want me to play the game, but I'm going to 334 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:59.360 do it like efficiently, effectively, and I'm going to fucking 335 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:01.360 kill it. Like that's just kind of who I am, 336 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:03.080 and like that's what's driven me to the be able 337 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:05.360 to build the relationships that I do, to be able 338 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:08.120 to do things like this event or like, uh, we 339 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:11.720 just kind of talked about I'm now a uh I'm 340 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:16.159 part of the Advanced Cultivation or Advanced Commercial team, the 341 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:19.600 Advanced Nutrients Commercial Team. It's a new team that we 342 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:21.559 built because there's new products that are going to be 343 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:26.840 launched and I'm out here to drive or our group 344 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:30.519 of you know, there's a handful of us. We're out 345 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.840 here to drive commercial sales but also to build the 346 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:38.240 SOPs for it to because there's a new product launch 347 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:39.559 that's coming and we could get into that if you 348 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:39.879 want to. 349 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:41.600 The new line. 350 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:44.000 So it's the eighth gen, right this and this is 351 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:47.159 like kind of what was talked about at biscon. 352 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:49.840 Geat you go into a little bit, I'm curious. 353 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:53.799 So it's like, uh so let's back up a little bit. 354 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:56.600 So uh let's how I we can talk about Mike 355 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:59.600 grow and my cultivation. Right, So, like I have been 356 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:04.960 grown with Cana for six to eight years now, and 357 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.919 I grew with advance for from like twenty twelve, like 358 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:10.799 when my weed started shifting to get better weed till 359 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:13.600 like twenty sixteen something like that, when I switched to 360 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:15.200 Coco and I just want to try a couple of 361 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:16.559 new things. I went to Cana and I went to 362 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:20.679 Coco and out of Rockwell and I went and played 363 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:22.639 with microbes a little bit more than I was able to, 364 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:27.559 like an inert media. And so I've been with Cana 365 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:29.559 and been doing Cana for a long time. Additives from 366 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:32.559 other companies here and there, whatever, but my base regiment 367 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:35.320 was Knaam being cannaboost and that kind of got me 368 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:40.360 to where I am today. However, so advanced back in 369 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:44.039 the day had this very like thirteen bottle approach, right, 370 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:44.480 like they. 371 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:46.200 Have all the bottles, Yeah, like a lot. 372 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:48.360 Yeah, there's like I don't know how big of your 373 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:51.799 segment of listeners are growers, but we got growers, so yes, 374 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:54.120 I understand then, So like you know, there's a there's 375 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:56.639 a big marketing employee behind like the cartoon look and 376 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:00.480 the Instagram model, if you will, like for other companies, 377 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:03.399 Like I'm not saying that's like the advanced thing, but 378 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:07.000 it was like this marketing employee, like the cartoon in 379 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:10.279 the Big Bud, and like it's just something that like 380 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:12.880 I kind of wised up to and kind of moved on. 381 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:15.279 It's like something a little bit more simplistic and like 382 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:17.359 a little bit more bosique kind of style of what 383 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:19.279 I was looking for. And that's kind of what drove 384 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:24.119 me into Canada. So Advance had approached me a few 385 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:27.240 times in the last few years many years to be 386 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:29.759 a kind of a sales with them, to do something 387 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:33.000 collaborative with them, and I just kept denying and denying it. 388 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:36.079 And then they came up to me, and this was 389 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:38.000 a couple months ago, and they approached me with their 390 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.319 eighth Gen that they're launching. And so this is long 391 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:43.400 end of the short and why I'm getting into this 392 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:45.599 eighth Gen stuff now is now, See, the eighth Gen 393 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:47.920 is a lot more simplistic of an approach. It doesn't 394 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:50.200 have the thirteen bottles. It takes a lot I keep 395 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:53.559 saying thirteen and it's not whatever. It takes a lot 396 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:55.519 of the recipes, like they take a lot of like 397 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:57.359 three four bottles they put it into one. It's more 398 00:17:57.400 --> 00:17:59.920 simplistic foot approach. It's going to be a two part 399 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:01.880 powder instead of like a three pop party where some 400 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:05.400 of these other companies have been traditionally on, and then 401 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:08.759 a couple liquid additives that go with it. So they 402 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:12.200 approached me with an opportunity to do marketing for that, 403 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:18.240 to uh to run the right that like the SOPs 404 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:20.599 for it, to like test an R and D the product. 405 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:22.359 Like obviously they have a good scene that have already 406 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:22.720 done that. 407 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:24.119 But that's really cool. 408 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:25.720 No, I was just saying that you're actually being a 409 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:28.279 part of the process of like this eighth generation like launch, 410 00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:29.559 and that's really cool to be a part of it. 411 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:31.640 And like especially with a brand like them, They've been 412 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:33.480 around for a while and like you said, they have 413 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:35.759 their own things. So I mean, trying to be innovative 414 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:37.200 is what keeps you alive as a company. 415 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:38.039 So I respect that. 416 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:42.240 So part of my mission in this industry is to 417 00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:45.039 uh take this industry to a little bit more of 418 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:48.599 a professional level, and to do so through culture change. 419 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:51.359 And so when we look at Advanced in their past 420 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:53.640 and the way that they've and I'm calling this out 421 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:56.640 is I don't I don't pull any punches like I 422 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:59.880 have nothing to lose at this point, like it does. 423 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:02.160 And I've said this in meetings of advance. I don't 424 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:04.720 think that I haven't said this before, but like I'm 425 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:08.039 here to drive culture shift, and like when they approach 426 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:09.599 me with the new packaging and the new look and 427 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:12.559 the more sleek and like more suited to the license 428 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:17.039 cultivator who's smart that doesn't need marketing to sell them 429 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:21.759 on good product and on equality, clean, simplistic product, that's 430 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:24.039 what got me. So, Like their new packaging is just 431 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:27.000 super sleek. There's a picture of it on my Instagram, 432 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:29.880 is very black and gold. Like there's no picture to it. 433 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:31.640 It's just straight to the point of what it is. 434 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:34.119 It's a few products that have been combined into one 435 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:37.720 so you don't have the multiple approaches, and there's some 436 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:41.720 really cool innovative things that are in the recipe of 437 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:45.359 the products as well. So having the opportunity to do 438 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:48.319 this now and then try to shift this company that's 439 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:51.079 one of the one of the global leaders in nutrients 440 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:54.559 supply and nutrient distribution to whatever you want to say 441 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:57.960 to the masses, to be able to be part of 442 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:00.960 that change and that shift and that culture shift into 443 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:04.839 a more positive professional level and direction with something that 444 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:07.480 was that kind of it enticed me and it was 445 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:11.000 like very easy for me to get behind and to 446 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:12.799 kind of do. Like like I said, part of my 447 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:17.279 mission personally is to drive culture in professionalism through this industry. 448 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:21.200 There's too much fucking bullshit. Sorry my language, figure it out. 449 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:24.319 But I mean, like we're smoking buds, so like that's 450 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:29.519 not there, Like yeah, you already you know what I. 451 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:33.000 Mean, broken rules. They're not gonna be like, oh you're 452 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:33.400 cool now. 453 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.200 No, I mean again, I'm just joking, but no, I mean, 454 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:38.839 but I mean this kind of transitions to your event, right, 455 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:40.480 like when you're trying to you said, you're trying to 456 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:44.480 have that professionalism, right, So I let's tie that in 457 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:47.160 a little bit because I do think that like there 458 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:50.400 are events now are trying to like this sort of 459 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:53.640 bridging that they still tap into culture, but there's still 460 00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:54.920 professional networking rate. 461 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:55.640 They're kind of this. 462 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:58.119 Middle ground where because like because I think you see, 463 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:00.079 like there are culture events where it's just like you know, 464 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:02.359 old school of people trap in and like you know, 465 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:05.119 I mean culture and then you got people you know, 466 00:21:05.119 --> 00:21:07.079 then you just got straight events where it's all network 467 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:08.920 where it's not I can't let loose and smoke a 468 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:11.319 little bit where these ones in the middle are kind 469 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:13.160 of that like beautiful synergy. 470 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:19.359 So my events are to be a cooperation in a 471 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:23.440 collaboration and not a competition. That was like my biggest 472 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:25.519 drive in things. And I've been to some of these 473 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:28.279 other parties and they respect those people that put those 474 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:30.160 parties on because I know fucking how hard it is, 475 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:33.039 I know what it takes to do it. I have 476 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:35.279 tons of respect for all those people and their little 477 00:21:35.359 --> 00:21:38.279 niches that they've grown. My niche that I'm trying to 478 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:43.519 grow with my events is like I said, collaboration, not 479 00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:45.839 necessarily even networking. It's just a bunch of people being 480 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:47.759 able to come out, hang out, have a bunch of 481 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:52.000 fireweed and like consumption and like we're not trying to 482 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:57.200 like like respect is Olympics. They've built something amazingly, Like 483 00:21:57.279 --> 00:21:59.839 they have a great brand, they have a great competition 484 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:05.119 Tyler shout out Zachieber. Absolutely and total respect of everything 485 00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:07.839 that they're doing. But that's not what I was looking 486 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:11.039 to do. Like I wasn't looking to do the competition 487 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:14.960 because then you have this it's a different energy, right, 488 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:17.519 Like and like I'm not saying that that energy is 489 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:20.519 a negative thing, like that that energy is its own thing. 490 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:22.519 And like my energies that I'm trying to put off 491 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:25.519 at these things are a little bit more to that professionalism. 492 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:28.880 Well yeah, I mean I I see, I see them 493 00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:31.200 almost just different lights where I mean, when you're at 494 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:34.079 a competition, like the star of the show is that 495 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:37.559 the the hot strains new flavors, right, this is more 496 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:40.400 focus on genetics. But like for events like yours or 497 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:43.000 like you know me Connect Puffed like you, it's more 498 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:45.319 about that networking, getting to know people like you can 499 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:46.160 actually have time to talk. 500 00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:48.599 Sometimes when it's like a competition, there's loud music, it's 501 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:50.400 kind of like a party. It's more culture. 502 00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:52.279 So I think it's kind of like a you know, 503 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:54.319 it's kind of like a say, I don't even know 504 00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:57.039 like a scale and you know, like. 505 00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:59.240 I still consider myself, but far different than the me connect. 506 00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:01.839 Like what he's doing over there is a very business 507 00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:06.440 to business networking, like yeah, brand promotion, and what I'm 508 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:10.960 doing is uh and he does he showcases as well. 509 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:12.559 That's it would be a showcase too, but I'm also 510 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:16.559 kind of showcasing certain brands like with the Dad Bars 511 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:16.880 and the. 512 00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:19.920 Don Up Bars, very unique, right, the pre rolls yeah. 513 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.039 Like and we so with my events. But one thing 514 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:25.079 I like, h I'm like super like history and like 515 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:27.519 the nineteen twenties fascinate me. In thirties and the Great 516 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:28.559 Depression all that fascinating. 517 00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:31.880 We're in the twenties again, I thought about that sixty 518 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:33.279 years ago. This is the twenties. 519 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:37.240 Yeah, but like I think about those parties, the cigarette girls, right, 520 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:39.440 they're all walking around, they're like and so I wanted 521 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:41.720 I took that and like put that into my events 522 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:44.119 with like these girls like and so the if you 523 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:46.200 see like pre role contributors on my page, those are 524 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:48.319 the brands that are giving me one to two hundred 525 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:51.200 pre rolls before the show and for my girls to 526 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:53.880 go out there and like have samples of the handout 527 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:56.039 to everybody, you know. So like I just want to 528 00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:59.519 cater everybody with as much as I can. And the 529 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:02.119 initial the initial plan of it, like with the Growers Gal, 530 00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:04.920 the first one was like this, let's. 531 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.720 Celebrate the growers And that's what I was trying to say. 532 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:09.640 It's like, what are you celebrating at that moment? And 533 00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:12.200 that's different because I love culture events too, but you're 534 00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:15.240 just celebrating the plant. That's why sometimes those are my favorite. 535 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:17.279 Because River's just getting stone having a fun time, talk 536 00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:17.839 about favor. 537 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:18.200 Yeah. 538 00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:20.079 I love all the. 539 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:22.960 Events, right, And I think when you go from culture events, funds, 540 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:25.680 getting high DJ's music all the way to like Biscon, 541 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:29.480 where it's like we're just talking business. 542 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:32.359 Let's all needed, let's complete, let's dive into. 543 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:35.839 That's what I've been going to. Business has since twenty fifth. 544 00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:38.480 I met you, you guys met Prior, Oh Jesus Christ 545 00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:42.400 and serious like over but no, y'all met Prior, right, 546 00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:43.680 was just online? 547 00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:46.039 Okay, well we might have the event before the first one, 548 00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:48.440 the second one, the second one Halloween, the other. 549 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:52.480 Magic massive, magic massa same. It was like copy and paste, 550 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:53.880 just add Halloween theme. 551 00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:56.200 Which is funny. I like this. 552 00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:58.279 Well, the first one went so well and I had 553 00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:00.880 such good feedback and which I had no idea I 554 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:04.079 was going to get, Like what Another thing that I like, 555 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:07.119 really like focus on is not being a corporate event, 556 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:10.200 like making this a family thing. So it's me, my wife, 557 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:13.519 my brother, my niece, Like we're the main people that 558 00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.400 put this on and like so it's family, like we 559 00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:18.559 keep it in the family. My brother's girlfriend will help, 560 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:22.400 like my niece's friends will come help, like like my grandmother, 561 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:24.640 like the grandma's will come with like it during the day, 562 00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:27.559 help set up and watch the kids or whatever, right, 563 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:30.640 like so uh yeah, everybody's kind of into it. And 564 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:32.880 like we the more family we put it on, the 565 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:35.799 less corporative feels, so people can't relax and have that environment. 566 00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:37.720 And it's kind of funny to see the evolution even 567 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:40.359 between the two events. I put a lot of money 568 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:42.720 into catering, Like that's very important to me to have 569 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:45.039 good food around for these events, and like I'm looking 570 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:49.240 for a very specific thing the events and foods. 571 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.119 So yeah, especially like three joints, four joints. 572 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:55.079 But like the first event, like nobody ate anything like 573 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:58.160 a way over Spence on it and like nobody took it, 574 00:25:58.319 --> 00:25:59.839 like many of the pre roles, so we had like 575 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:03.319 five hundred of them left over, like people just weren't 576 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:06.519 taking them, and like well like left over by I 577 00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:07.759 left me at the end of the night. 578 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:10.839 We were like take like everyone these are free. 579 00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:11.480 Yeah, like. 580 00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:14.480 But like. 581 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:22.359 The yeah, you were talking about learning from each event. 582 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:25.079 Yeah, yeah, to watch the evolution now in the second event, 583 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.279 like we were like food was being consumed a little 584 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:29.720 bit more, people were more comfortable taking product. Like to 585 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:32.960 see people's comfortability levels that kind of rise throughout the 586 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:34.680 past couple events is kind of exciting too. 587 00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:37.319 But the machine was good and number two, Yeah. 588 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:38.119 I think we're gonna do that again. 589 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:40.200 You know, It's funny because I do a v for 590 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.119 other events too in my life, and I've seen them 591 00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.160 other places. I'm like, man, you guys are everywhere. You 592 00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:47.200 guys crush there they do like a pistachie. 593 00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:51.839 It's good. And like for being kind of cold that night, 594 00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:55.079 like it was fucking it hit the spot. But like 595 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.279 a event you learned that's just no doubt, and like 596 00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:00.240 it come a little bit more budget friendly, and like 597 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.640 it's easy, a little easier to get sponsors than it 598 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:06.279 was like day one, you know, like and like and 599 00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:09.200 like I was trying to like started with this with like, uh, 600 00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:11.480 the feedback that I got from everything, and like the 601 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.240 amount of good time that everybody had, like was so 602 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:16.720 compelled there so much compelled me to put these other 603 00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:20.920 events on and continue this going. So I'm fortunate to 604 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:22.839 be in the position that I am. I was fortunate 605 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.160 to make the relationships up to this point with other cultivators, 606 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.119 with other ancillary companies like Canna and Advanced Nutrients and 607 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.000 UH and in or like some a lot of these 608 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.440 other brands that sponsored my show is on a regular 609 00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:38.119 because they know who I am, they know the character 610 00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.519 of me, uh, they know I have good intentions and 611 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:42.359 they know I'm looking to do something fun and like 612 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:44.599 exciting and new and not bizkun. 613 00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:48.799 And like that's why I was saying, there's a sliding 614 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.000 scale and like the I mean, you're yeah, definitely, you're 615 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:53.240 You're in events are different than like everyone else. 616 00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:54.279 That's what I love about events. 617 00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:55.799 But I feel like it is just always kind of 618 00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:57.559 that sliding scale, and I feel like you're kind of 619 00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:58.920 hitting right there in that middle point. 620 00:27:58.960 --> 00:27:59.319 I like that. 621 00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:01.640 And like it's not about the money. It's not at 622 00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:03.799 all for me, Like I the money will come, I 623 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:06.279 don't care. I came from nothing. I have a little 624 00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:10.119 bit now like cool, Like it's about making these relationships. 625 00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:13.400 It's about driving this industry into a professional manner. I 626 00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:15.799 keep saying it, but that's what I'm what my my 627 00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:18.160 my goal is at the end of the day, and 628 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:20.240 these events help propel me to do sort of thing, 629 00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:22.480 like I look to be a leader amongst my peers, 630 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:24.640 and like, to be a leader, you have to sell 631 00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:25.480 out for the mission and. 632 00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:26.359 For me the mission. 633 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:27.279 That's that's exactly I was. 634 00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.359 I kept saying, like rand, but it is a mission. 635 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.440 It's a mission. I look at branding some when I'm 636 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:34.279 as what your mission is because of where you're going for. 637 00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:38.200 And like so shout out to Advancing New Trains because 638 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:40.359 they sent me to this leadership training with Chris Collins 639 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.960 in California and it was the most amazing, eye opening 640 00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:45.119 experience that I've ever had. And like I'm the type 641 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:46.759 of guy that would walk into something like that with 642 00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:49.640 a closed mind and like this is bullshit. And like 643 00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:53.319 I walked out of that like holy shit and likely 644 00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:57.119 just start thinking and spinning the wheels in other directions 645 00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:00.319 and like starting to shift this mission and reate a 646 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.240 mission and what my actual purpose is so I can 647 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.359 then lead like this, that's my goal is I want 648 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:08.039 to be a leader amongst our peers, but I want 649 00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:11.720 to do through do so through authenticity, through trust, through 650 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.960 cultivating connections, and through driving the industry to a more 651 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:19.359 professional level. Through culture change and like to be able 652 00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:21.240 to have this opportunity to do that with advance is 653 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.559 like it aligns with me so well, right to shift 654 00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:26.160 this culture. And if I can do this on a 655 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:28.839 micro scale stories a line, right, yeah, exactly, And I 656 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:30.599 can do this on a micro scale, that I can 657 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:32.880 start doing it more on a macro scale and then 658 00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:35.359 the sky's the limit and that's the that's the goal 659 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:36.480 at the end of the day. And like to get 660 00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:38.640 into the Biscount thing too, and like relate that back 661 00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.559 to my events, Like I've been going to biscons since 662 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:43.000 twenty fifteen when it's like. 663 00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:45.200 The first much has it grown? The first one that 664 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:49.000 I want to grow since we went eighteen nineteen. 665 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.480 Yeah, this was like the third one, the third one 666 00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:53.319 that they had put on at this point, second or 667 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.480 third one. And it was in the basement of a 668 00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:59.799 hotel in Chicago and they filmed like part of Home 669 00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:02.599 there or something like that, well or something like it 670 00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:05.960 was some change a lot, dude, And like this was suits. 671 00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.759 Like I'm telling every single person I wore a buttnap 672 00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.519 because like, oh wow, like it was suits there. And 673 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.480 this was like back when people were throwing money at 674 00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:15.240 the wall to see if it'd stick, and like it 675 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.319 was in a basement, and then I watched this thing 676 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.440 grow exponentially. And then twenty eighteen election came and that 677 00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:23.920 thing fucking exploded. It was at the Rio, they sold out. 678 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.440 There's a line on like the third day like to 679 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.039 get in still like and that's when they shifted it 680 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:31.200 over to the con Center. That would have been like 681 00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:32.720 I think the election at twenty eighteen. 682 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:34.920 Okay, well that makes sense, that's I mean, I mean 683 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:36.440 that's when I was getting more in industry, and I 684 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:38.720 think we can I've heard of it back then, Like 685 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:40.920 I didn't even know when it went back to sixteen. 686 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:42.920 Maybe it was twenty sixteen, eighteen somewhere on there. 687 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:44.000 Oh, that's still crazy. 688 00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:45.480 There's a lot of I remember there's a lot of 689 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:47.960 states that had went legal or medical ad during that 690 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:50.599 election eighteen it was eighteen, yeah, because we went a 691 00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:53.400 check and like I remember seeing this thing go. It 692 00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:55.680 just explode. After that they went to the convention center 693 00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:58.000 and it got huge, Right, But what happened this year? 694 00:30:58.039 --> 00:30:59.960 Do you guys notice, like if you've been going for 695 00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.519 six years now, like, did you notice how it's shrunk? 696 00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.839 How the cultivation side is tiny, and not only its tiny, 697 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.720 like compared to last year, but the walls keep coming 698 00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:12.359 in because there's less and less sponsors than people that 699 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:13.839 want to put in for this I did, I. 700 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.200 Said, I don't know if I said two three years ago. 701 00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:18.920 I mean maybe I guess was this our fifth? I 702 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.359 don't know, this might have been our fifth or no. 703 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:23.400 I think it's definitely more than three. So that's what 704 00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:25.119 I'm trying to say. We might only be coming since 705 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:26.960 twenty twenty, twenty nineteen. 706 00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:28.680 So what I was saying is that I feel like 707 00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:30.759 the first year to the second year was like wow, 708 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.400 it kept growing, but then ever since like that like 709 00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:34.880 it's just been going down. 710 00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:38.079 It did seem smaller this year, it did see super smaller, 711 00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:39.079 and the next year more. 712 00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:41.640 Of it's dealt outside of the conference center. Right Like 713 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.200 Biskon brings people town and there's like feels like there's 714 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.079 hundreds of events that are going on everywhere, but just 715 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:50.119 I feel like they're starting to move to that like 716 00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:53.720 week around Biscon, but like not at Biscon. And that's 717 00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:55.960 what I think is interesting because I think it's becoming 718 00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:57.640 you know, I was saying, Biscon is all the way 719 00:31:57.920 --> 00:31:59.279 where the business is just talking. 720 00:31:59.480 --> 00:31:59.759 I think it. 721 00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:02.160 They're trying to bring it to that culture feeling. So 722 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:03.799 that's why everyone has these after parties. 723 00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:06.880 Possibly then that could be something on their own, but 724 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.279 the after party is its own scene and its own thing, 725 00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:11.079 and you probably end up going to Vegas and you 726 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:12.920 get more value not going to bis Gun and just 727 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:13.920 going to the after parties. 728 00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:17.559 Yeah, so like balance there for sure. 729 00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:20.119 And don't get me wrong, certain companies do really well there. 730 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.240 Like I'm not saying Advance had a very good day, 731 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:24.359 very good God, I was there. 732 00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:27.279 But it's like the the It's not dead conference by 733 00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.960 no no pack. It's just like the vendors have have gone. 734 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.640 Me me as an attendees who like when I used 735 00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:35.319 to go, I used to it. When I go to him, 736 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.640 I'm like, I get social anxiety. I don't want to 737 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:39.680 talk to anyone. I'm I'm on a mission. I don't 738 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:41.119 want to like I want to go up and down 739 00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:42.359 all the aisles, but I don't want to be said 740 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.920 hello to every single time. Like it's like I have 741 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:48.240 a social battery too that it gets drained in these 742 00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.680 types of things. Yeah, And when I was talking to 743 00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.680 my brother about all this too, we're like so what 744 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:54.519 can we do. Wes like, we have to flip the 745 00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:57.400 expo upside down, right and make the upside down expo. 746 00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.279 And that's like what I aim to do with my 747 00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:02.119 events is like make this upside down next be where 748 00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:04.440 everybody comes into a cultural event has a good time. 749 00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:09.359 I tell the people that get booths at them, I'm like, 750 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.319 don't stand behind your booth, like you can if you want, 751 00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.880 but you're gonna get way more value just walking around 752 00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:16.599 the party and talking to people and having a good time. 753 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.200 I mean, and like, I hate value your event. When 754 00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.200 we were there, we got to interview. We're signing up, yeah, 755 00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:23.599 because cannabis is just. 756 00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:27.640 Let's just be real here, Cannabis is all about this, 757 00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.480 like this very deep trust we've built by smoking with 758 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:32.759 people and getting to know people. So without that being 759 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.880 able to smoke, sometimes it's super hard to be that true, 760 00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.000 true to that culture. So I think that's why I 761 00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.640 like events like yours is that it's that it still 762 00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:44.559 feels culture, but like business gets done. 763 00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:46.319 Sometimes business got done back in. 764 00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:49.160 The gun because even us we tried to throw just 765 00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:51.079 an Advocate event for our first where it was just 766 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.799 no smoking, just like speech speeches and it was hard 767 00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:55.960 getting one there unless they were truly about the advocacy. 768 00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:59.279 So like really like it's just because this this there's. 769 00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.480 Such a culture here, it's like so social and like 770 00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:05.559 Michigan is strong and like this is like where I want. 771 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.680 I want to see Michigan shift as a whole. Is 772 00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.280 like at least I have this conception of Michigan that 773 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:12.800 we still keep looking out west, like they have this 774 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:14.960 conception of Michigan where we would keep still looking out 775 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:18.639 west for inspiration and for hype, right, Like that's what 776 00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:20.960 I keep seeing. Anyways, I don't know if it's making 777 00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.159 a shift, and I'm just like sheltered into my way 778 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:26.639 of thinking, but I want to see Michigan become the leader. 779 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.440 Like we just took over California and the amount of 780 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:33.400 total sales right, like that's amazing, That's insane, I know, 781 00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:35.719 Like that's like if you think about that, the total 782 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:40.840 amount of pounds units sold, total amount of units sold 783 00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:45.079 overcame California, like the biggest legacy market that there is 784 00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:49.840 with a bigger population, like huge, amazing, Like and with 785 00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.960 that we become the leaders and like as we I mean, 786 00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.960 like guys like you right that are driving the podcast 787 00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.360 world that are putting like good content out there, and 788 00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.000 we're just trying to put the people. 789 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:02.880 Who deserve the light out there on the forefront. And 790 00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:04.199 you know, that's all we can do because at the 791 00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:05.800 end of the day, like there are some good bud here, 792 00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.440 and there's some good here, and there's a good culture here, 793 00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:11.159 great culture, great crowd. This is what I'm trying to say, 794 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:13.960 Like Michigan's got a phenomenal market, absolutely, and then we're 795 00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:15.480 just trying to shed light on it because I think 796 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:15.840 you're right. 797 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.039 I think California became that leader because they just had that. 798 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:23.000 For me, it's there's that California stigma that just lives 799 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:24.880 in my head because I'm a Michigan guy. 800 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:26.840 Like well, plus I think we all got pounds back 801 00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:33.119 in the day from Calias that were fires. 802 00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:32.840 When it bounce was four hundred, but. 803 00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:38.159 That ship was, Yes, everything was going from out there. Yeah, 804 00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:42.639 but yeah, it was great to see that. Going back 805 00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:44.320 to your point on the sales, because Calli's just such 806 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.360 huge march. I've always thought Michigan had some of the 807 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:46.880 best stuff. 808 00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:48.760 So like and like I was saying, like, you guys 809 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:51.039 are leaders and what you're doing here I try to 810 00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:53.360 be a leader in my areas between events and growing 811 00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.119 the top shelf cannabis, like trying to draw. Like we 812 00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:58.880 talked about runs earlier that I didn't say anything, but 813 00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:00.760 I started to a little bit. But I'm like, I'm 814 00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:03.760 kind of not that run sky like I have. Okay, 815 00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:06.119 so I've grown Cadillac rainbows and I grow Candak cranbos 816 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:07.519 And that's like the most run strain that I have. 817 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.159 It's it runs cross, but it like doesn't smell. It 818 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.440 runs right. That's that's a skunky like old school skunk 819 00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.480 kind of and uh so like I don't really consider 820 00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:18.440 that a runt strain if you will, you know, like 821 00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:22.519 and uh I still like my bread and butter and 822 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:26.719 high cellar and like dollar amount and like best thing 823 00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:29.360 that I still like to grow is GMO, Like like 824 00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.440 I'm still a fucking massive GMO guy. 825 00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:33.400 Like I don't like I want to. 826 00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:36.039 Shit. 827 00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:40.360 That's you know what, I got a classic. That's the 828 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:42.480 key word here. Whatever someone says GMO, I'm in that. 829 00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:42.599 No. 830 00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.360 No, I love GMO, like because that garlic turp was 831 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:46.239 just so fascinating. 832 00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:48.639 So going back to the origin story and like back 833 00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:50.559 to like when I found chronic weed. Like the first 834 00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:52.519 chronic weed I found was blueberry. And this was like 835 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.320 twenty two thousand and four ish, and like it had 836 00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:57.400 to a bendi j short blueberry back then, like being 837 00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:58.880 from where it was in, Like this ship had like 838 00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:01.920 a hint of blue in it and it smelled like blueberries. 839 00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:05.400 And then a little bit later after that, Uh, I 840 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.519 had a friend that used to go we used to 841 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.159 go downtown whatever you want to say, Well, he wants 842 00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:11.519 to go to the hood and get weak good weed, 843 00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:14.280 and like, uh, he brought back the back then and 844 00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:16.679 that this one was called bubba cush and it wasn't 845 00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:19.760 bubble cush. Because I've like smoked and smelled a hundred 846 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.519 different bubble bubble cushes since then, It's never the same. 847 00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.719 What I remembered. This was the most stinky ship that 848 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:28.400 I've ever smelled. Like he would come to my house 849 00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.519 and stand at my front porch and wait for me 850 00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:32.719 to come answer the door. Because after like two minutes, 851 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:34.800 like that smell just lingered in and I was like, 852 00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:40.199 holy shit, Like, uh, we drove good, We drove and 853 00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:42.599 picked some more up and we went home. Like three 854 00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:44.239 days later, me and my buddy got in my car 855 00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.320 and he's like like, what what do you got on you? 856 00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:49.159 I got nothing, Like that's still lingering in my car 857 00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:51.760 And like I personally I think that was road kill 858 00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.400 skunk if you ask me, Like like they're like I've 859 00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:56.480 heard the stories and like the origins of that. 860 00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:58.320 And like kill skunk. 861 00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:00.840 Yeah, this is like this is like a nineties like 862 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:06.400 like grateful dead strain like and it's like supposedly some 863 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:08.440 people know where it is, but other people have said 864 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.199 that it is like gone. Even the breeder has said that, 865 00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:13.760 like he's looked for it. People that said that they 866 00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:15.599 have it don't have it. Like I've heard him on 867 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:21.239 there's the podcast with the dude in Australia. Do you 868 00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:21.960 know what I'm talking about? 869 00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:23.400 Man? 870 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:25.000 I forgot what it one's called it, but he always 871 00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:27.880 has like legacy breeders and like then they it's a 872 00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:31.280 two and a half hour podcast. The name has escaped me. 873 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:36.760 It'll come to me. He he. He brings like a 874 00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:40.000 duke Diamond in uh skunk Va where like some of 875 00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:43.199 his first guests and like those guys like found like 876 00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.719 kem Dog and like some of these like really old 877 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.239 school strains, but they and they tell the origin story 878 00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:50.760 of that, which is like bag seed that was found 879 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:52.800 at a Grateful Dead show and like the nineties that 880 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.280 they just decided to pop and it became like kem 881 00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:58.000 dog and sour I might be getting this wrong, Kem 882 00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.360 Dog sour d, like a couple of three of different 883 00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:03.639 strains odded just this bag seed and like one of 884 00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:06.320 those type stories. I don't know if it's exactly that 885 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:09.079 story came out of the Roadkill Skunk and I think 886 00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:13.239 that was skunk Va and that one was like like 887 00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:15.880 apparently it's never not around anymore, but that thing like 888 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:17.519 if you knew you had it, and like if people 889 00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:19.320 used to smoke chronic weed back then and they had it, 890 00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:23.960 they know exactly what I'm talking about, because like, yeah, 891 00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:27.519 that's like the long winded way of for me to 892 00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:29.719 say I've always been looking for that weed and like 893 00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:31.760 the best thing that I've come across since then has 894 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:33.840 been GMO, and like that's still like my bread and 895 00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:36.679 butter with it, like and it throws down it. 896 00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:43.400 It's funny right here, shout out the wizard around like. 897 00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:47.039 Yeah, sure, uh. 898 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:50.679 Have you ever tried to pivot? 899 00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:53.119 Nope? Oh yeah, I haven't tried it, but I've seen it, 900 00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:55.079 Like we had one had a giveaway for the last event. 901 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.760 Actually you know that. 902 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.400 Our flower I think did uh did the giveaway for 903 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:03.920 that one and it was like what it was one 904 00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:07.800 of the costume contests. Yeah, it's because you know Halloween. 905 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:12.639 But like so I'm always on this quest for like 906 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:17.559 finding that like super fucking dank, like old school fucking 907 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:20.559 just hitching the nose turps and like the Runs just 908 00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:25.360 doesn't do it for me. And like I'm not I 909 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.760 don't talk about any any company and this is not 910 00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.920 me doing so whatsoever, but there's a certain company that 911 00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:34.239 a lot of people like to use for their nutrients 912 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:39.039 and that in my opinion, and I don't know if 913 00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:41.199 there's necessarily research out there that's been done about this 914 00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:47.119 or not, but that uh certain line triggers a certain 915 00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:50.280 turping within Runs that makes that runs fucking kick. And 916 00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:54.320 like smelling a lot of like the homogenation between a 917 00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:56.760 lot of the different run strains, like what I've smelled, 918 00:40:56.920 --> 00:40:59.480 and just like kind of like I understand, like I've 919 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.760 been doing this for a long time now, I've been 920 00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:03.840 through a lot of strains. I've smelled a lot of weed, 921 00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.840 and I'm very sentient like I'm super Like what separates 922 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:09.639 me in the garden versus a lot of other people 923 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.000 is like I'm super in touch with my sentence senses. 924 00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.199 Is it ready? No? When it vibrates, I'm like super 925 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:17.519 in touch with my senses. Like I can tell when 926 00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:20.880 a room's off. I can tell when like something's like 927 00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:23.400 it smells wrong or looks wrong or sounds wrong, and 928 00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:25.639 I can fucking go attack and figure out what that is. 929 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:27.519 And like so I'm very in touch with that. And 930 00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:30.280 like when I smell that same thing over and over 931 00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:35.280 and then the same the same probably flavor, well, the 932 00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:36.559 same flavor, but it's. 933 00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:40.079 Just shows your ears experience grows. It's isn't it ripped? 934 00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:40.199 Though? 935 00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:42.079 And I love that GMO. It's like that one of 936 00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:45.039 my favorites here, you haven't taken them yet. I won't 937 00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:45.639 be selfish. 938 00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:51.199 I almost did five fifty, but sometimes I think like rips, 939 00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:52.480 like it's a little different. 940 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:57.079 It's good, that's tasty. So just that that there's that 941 00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.280 certain line that I believe triggers a certain term being 942 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:03.079 that that kind of homogenized a lot of that turpine 943 00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:06.760 and that runs kind of you know, and like it 944 00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.840 like this again, I'm not throwing shade at anybody. Like 945 00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.159 everybody tweets their own whatever they like to do, whatever 946 00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.199 they like to There's some billion different ways to skin 947 00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:19.400 the cat, like and up it was a million, there's 948 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.400 a billion man like whatever like you do to you 949 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:25.639 and like, but I'm on a So I have a 950 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:30.159 professional mission, right like with the with the UH events 951 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.519 and like the professionalism, but I also have like a 952 00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:35.159 grower mission. And my grower mission is to grow the 953 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:38.639 highest quality cannabis using high end inputs, not sacrificing yield, 954 00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:43.119 but doing so effectively, efficiently and economically, like because we 955 00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:45.039 have to be able to survive in a market that 956 00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:48.360 like I just saw the Cannabis Consumer Index, and Michigan 957 00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:50.519 has the lowest price per pound in the country right now. 958 00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:53.320 And I can pull up the chart right now and 959 00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:57.840 we can features four hundred and some dollars a pound 960 00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:02.719 on average, Like it's likeiculously, Like California has higher, that's Oregon, Washington, 961 00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:04.400 they're higher than us right now, like all the other 962 00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:05.039 states are higher. 963 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:10.679 But like Prince here is insane. It is like what 964 00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:12.159 I saw it was when I was like when we 965 00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:13.719 were getting in you know to this podcast. 966 00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:17.079 That's the average in the average is a reflection of 967 00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:20.840 the thousand lighters and to each their own. There's some 968 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:23.440 good ones out there, but a majority of them aren't. 969 00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:27.679 And because of that, there's still the quality market that 970 00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.559 survives and exists, and people are still getting to tell 971 00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:32.760 a dollar for that. And I can, I can, I 972 00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:34.679 can sign up and keep off, but I I can 973 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.079 stand here and sit here and say, like I'm still 974 00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.320 getting over a grand like a ball wholesale. Like so 975 00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:43.559 like in a shout out to my dude that can 976 00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.440 get rid of everything and does everything. He's a very 977 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.760 influential person in the industry and he kills it. But 978 00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:54.119 quality wins, right, So like when we go back to 979 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:56.400 like Michigan's got to change that then become like the 980 00:43:56.519 --> 00:43:58.079 number one, and like we need the leaders to be 981 00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.320 able to do it. It's not like and again, no 982 00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.079 offense to the thousand laders and the guys that are 983 00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:04.360 doing that. That's a hard fucking job. I think I 984 00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.960 would take that on and I would crush because there's 985 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:09.880 the type of person that I am. And this is 986 00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:11.480 not for me to be pretentious or anything like that. 987 00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:13.960 Like I'm not trying to like sound like I've been 988 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.480 doing this a long fucking time. I've earned my stripes. 989 00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:18.960 I know how to do things effectively, efficiently. I know 990 00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:23.159 how to do things clean. I don't have issues. I 991 00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.639 know how to manage people. People like to come work 992 00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:28.000 for me. I make good relationships. So I have a 993 00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:30.320 lot of sample size that can allow me to speak 994 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.239 on this. But the thousand layers drain, the average, drain 995 00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:37.159 the fucking quality overall. The guys that are doing this 996 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.760 that are like the fucking grinders, the caregivers, the guys 997 00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:42.239 that came up in this, Uh, they're the ones that 998 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.199 should be driving this change. Like even and there's a 999 00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:46.920 lot of the names that are on my banners that 1000 00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:50.440 I'm talking about here, Like these guys are influential figures, 1001 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:52.719 and it's time to take that influence out of Michigan 1002 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.440 and take it a countrywide. And like we became, we've 1003 00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:57.360 now become that leader, that number one. 1004 00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:01.840 It's like getting to that professional but never forgetting your roots. 1005 00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.079 Oh absolutely, And like that's I think. 1006 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.199 But I love that because, well that's why I brought 1007 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.400 up what you guys been through, because well, he had 1008 00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:10.400 a similar thing. He's always talked about going to legal 1009 00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:11.880 market just because of what he went through. You know, 1010 00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:14.360 he's never gonna go back to that old life because 1011 00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:15.920 of what you guys went through. And a lot of 1012 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:19.000 people have gone through something similar seeing friends go through that, 1013 00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:23.199 so it's like this, you know, I just I think 1014 00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:26.039 it's just important to kind of respect both sides of 1015 00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:27.639 the plant and just remember. 1016 00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:29.159 It's not even just the plant though, it's just who 1017 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.679 we are as people, being Michigan people or Midwestern people. 1018 00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:36.400 Like it's fucking cold outside, man, like that hardens you, 1019 00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:41.880 like like we're like, it just is what it is. 1020 00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:44.880 You go to like different cities sometimes you'll still get it, 1021 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.280 like big cities and they say you're from Detroit or 1022 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:50.800 Detroiter whatever you say. Everybody says Detroit. But yeah, I 1023 00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.880 was like, yeah, like you say Detroit and then you 1024 00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.760 always were like Detroit after what's that like? And like 1025 00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:01.119 and now, honestly, dude, I just spun like time and 1026 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:04.119 like downtown in l A. And I've spent time in 1027 00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:09.559 like downtown big cities, and I'm like, uh, Detroit is 1028 00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:11.800 like one of the cleanest cities out there now, Like 1029 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:13.039 it doesn't smell like. 1030 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:14.920 L A. 1031 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:19.639 L A has, Like it's just it's not it's. 1032 00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:21.639 A different, dude. It's just different. It's weird and now 1033 00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:25.119 after like growing up, like wh're pre super Bowl was here, 1034 00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:27.920 and like Detroit was not a place he went even downtown, 1035 00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:30.039 like you go to like Red Wings games and then 1036 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.039 in piss Red Wings games. That was it Tuger's games 1037 00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.360 that yeah, you get the fuck. 1038 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.800 Out like perception on Detroit's chain. 1039 00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:41.880 Little Caesars Arena was a dirt parking lot where I 1040 00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:43.880 tailgated for vine tire openers. 1041 00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:45.960 Like that was like nothing years ago. 1042 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:49.199 So that all that ships like kind of hardened us 1043 00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:51.199 to who we are as people, like we are a 1044 00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:53.880 different breed. Like I don't care, like I've s sure, 1045 00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:55.239 I've met a lot of people out of state that 1046 00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:57.960 are hard workers and like guess you're done. But like 1047 00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:01.239 I've met some bums to man like in like in 1048 00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:02.679 like the highest sense of the word. 1049 00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:05.480 They don't get what it's like. It sucks to go 1050 00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.199 freaking fill my gas up sometimes when it's so cold, though. 1051 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:10.119 I just love that weather stuff. I love that you're 1052 00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:11.559 like I'm telling you right. 1053 00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:13.000 Now, it's the difference, you. 1054 00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:15.039 Dude. 1055 00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.400 You go to some of these states with like warm 1056 00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:20.400 weather people and they're your songs. 1057 00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:26.360 You go to Florida, Go to Florida, it's like sixty degrees. 1058 00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:32.400 They're wearing like fucking hoodies and why yeah, that is true. 1059 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.119 That is so funny. You're right when you're in a 1060 00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:35.960 warm state, like, oh my god, it's freezing. You're like, 1061 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:42.920 are you serious right now, it's like eight degrees outside? Cold? Man? 1062 00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:43.719 My bones hurt? 1063 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:51.679 Yeah, you twins. I just love that, Like I've never 1064 00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:52.719 heard that be the reason. 1065 00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:56.719 Yeah, I love It's the blue collar thing or whatever, 1066 00:47:56.760 --> 00:47:59.239 you know, like industry like put it whatever it is. 1067 00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:02.000 But like a upgroing upbringings of our parents in the 1068 00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:04.280 way that they were up wrong, Like it's all like 1069 00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:10.960 inherited right, like it's uh yeah, like like for I'm 1070 00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:12.440 not going to that part there anyways. 1071 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:13.079 That's hilarious. 1072 00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:15.880 No, no, anyways, No, I appreciate you digging in the event, 1073 00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:18.360 and like we dug into like a lot of things. 1074 00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:20.480 What anything else you want to talk on? Anything you 1075 00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:22.679 want to shout out while we're here. So you think 1076 00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:24.719 you can continue doing these events going throughout the year. 1077 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:29.000 Yeah, so you know I can? Yeah, So, uh May eighth, 1078 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:33.480 August twenty first, and maybe it's twentieth this. 1079 00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:35.440 Is like, these are super close my birthday. 1080 00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.400 These are Thursdays, so you were super close my birthday. 1081 00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:38.880 And I was like, whoa. 1082 00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:43.920 He's like, I think you have a Saturday birthday then, 1083 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:47.239 because I think the twentieth is the Thursday. I can't remember. 1084 00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:49.679 Well it's that week anyways. And then we'll be doing 1085 00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:52.760 the metric mash again like the week before Halloween. So 1086 00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:55.639 I got the four events planned. Anything else could possibly 1087 00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:57.079 pop up in that period in time. 1088 00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:59.440 But this is super cool being at the crow Foot. 1089 00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:01.119 I mean just to shout out the crow Foot because 1090 00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:02.920 it's great, but my first DJ. But he's like, I 1091 00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:06.159 I as Man, I just blazing. 1092 00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:11.079 Yeah, cms cap. He's a he's actually a grower in 1093 00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:13.440 the Rhode Island. He's got his own brand, his own 1094 00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:15.280 thing that he's doing. He's on the advanced team and 1095 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.800 uh he's like, hey, you want me to He's like, 1096 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.119 I'll perform. I'm like, then I listened to some of hisself. 1097 00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:24.559 He's kind of like rap it but like uh like 1098 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:27.440 about weed kind of rap. You know, Like he's a 1099 00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:29.000 conservator at hearts. 1100 00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:32.239 So separate genre that really is man but there it's 1101 00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:33.519 it's bigger and bigger every day. 1102 00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:35.079 Yeah, Like you can check out some of his stuff. 1103 00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:38.039 I've heard a couple few. Like I'm not into rap, 1104 00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:40.840 like I have a fucking psych I have him, but 1105 00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:43.840 like likes into like D twelve and Ship back in 1106 00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:46.480 the day, right like like way back there, like you 1107 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:51.239 know what I mean, Like I like but like I don't. 1108 00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:53.800 I'm a rock guy, like I like rock music and 1109 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:55.280 that's just kind of who I am. The first event, 1110 00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:57.079 I tried to put Sponge in the event, like I 1111 00:49:57.159 --> 00:49:58.679 try to have them play the event. I don't okay 1112 00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:02.920 that he's like now the nineties rock and uh there's 1113 00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:05.480 a disagreement with the venue about putting it on, so 1114 00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:08.800 we didn't do it there. But that's what I There 1115 00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:10.719 was a point in time where I wanted to shift 1116 00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:14.079 the events into like doing music and events like this, 1117 00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:17.679 like consumption music events where they have like sure they 1118 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.079 always already have some of those, but like where we 1119 00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:23.320 do like rock, like where like there's no alcohol sales, 1120 00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:25.360 there's weed sales, and you walk in you can smoke 1121 00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:27.599 weed at a concert and you're not in like indoors 1122 00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:29.679 and you're not like hiding that you're smoking weed, you know, 1123 00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:32.559 like you're actually able to open consume. I thought that 1124 00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:33.320 was just kind of cool. 1125 00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:35.559 I'd be interesting, you really would, you know. 1126 00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:38.039 I never actually, you know, because we always talk about 1127 00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:39.639 how much the tie of music and weed, Like when 1128 00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:41.360 have you not been at concert it smelled weed? 1129 00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:45.760 Usually for me, if you like go to a concert, 1130 00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:47.599 like there's gonna be weed there, Like if you don't 1131 00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:50.559 sell alcohol, I guarantee, like it becomes the weed and 1132 00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:53.679 people will bring their drinks in. But let's like consume 1133 00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.440 at a concert and like it's okay to do it, 1134 00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:58.679 and then you know, I talked to some bands and 1135 00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:01.360 they were like, that's a cool idea, Like we've never 1136 00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:03.559 done anything like that before. Like I'd be into doing 1137 00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:05.679 something like that. So now it's like logistically trying to 1138 00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:08.599 get everything set. But uh yeah, this isn't something else 1139 00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:10.760 I like to maybe dabble in in the future. 1140 00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:13.599 But different genres and that you can tap into with 1141 00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:15.079 that type of stuff, you know. 1142 00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:19.599 I think we goes with every fucking except maybe're Christian 1143 00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:20.000 or something. 1144 00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:20.360 I don't know. 1145 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:26.400 I don't know skip that one. 1146 00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:31.920 You do l eds or hbs, so l yeah, yeah, 1147 00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:33.519 we didn't go into the girl like I'm happy to 1148 00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.800 Uh it's l ed and VEG and HPS and flower 1149 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:37.679 and like. 1150 00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:40.960 That's that's different because although sometimes we've heard like every 1151 00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:42.840 other like people do some just l eds. 1152 00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:44.639 I'm just I like that you like one. 1153 00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:52.199 So uh, that's the technical like I have the technology 1154 00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:55.360 and the science speaks for itself, like l eds are 1155 00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:57.559 far more efficient and can produce just as good as 1156 00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:01.280 flower or honestly better probably tasting and looking flower. You 1157 00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:03.679 can get more true expressions out of the flower, and 1158 00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:08.079 it can do so. And so there's the micro moles 1159 00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.199 per jewel and micromole's jewel if you don't know, is 1160 00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:14.039 like how much light is being given to the plant 1161 00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:17.280 versus the draw of the electricity against the wall. And 1162 00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:21.280 hps's are like super low efficient, Like I think they're 1163 00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.039 like one point six micro moles per jewel. And then 1164 00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:27.119 LEDs like the technology where it's evolved to now. And 1165 00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:29.599 when I was doing the research back in like twenty sixteen, 1166 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.880 it was like two point four, which is like fucking outstanding. 1167 00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:35.559 Now it's like three point one. I think they're breaking 1168 00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:39.280 barriers of what science thought could be done because they're 1169 00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:41.559 able to use and manipulate spectrum in such a way 1170 00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:44.000 that it gets even more efficient for the plants, which 1171 00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:47.320 then in turn raises your micromoles per jewel, which now 1172 00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:49.000 I think they're coming at like three to one three 1173 00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:53.960 two like some of the more high affecsion LEDs. So 1174 00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:57.400 that's my long winded to saying of saying I'm not 1175 00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:00.519 shitting on LEDs because they fucking crush. But when I 1176 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:06.360 started this grow it was about being able to replicate 1177 00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:08.800 what I already have done because I'm starting a new 1178 00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:10.920 brand in a very tough market, so I need to 1179 00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:13.960 come to market with some very high quality flower and 1180 00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:16.920 to do so, I have to implement my procedures one 1181 00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.800 for one right and to do so, then I can 1182 00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:22.480 then so the analytics side of me, like I can 1183 00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:26.800 create percentages of what things look like and like should 1184 00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.679 play out over the course of certain whether that's that's 1185 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:35.920 yields or there's different different types of metrics. 1186 00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:37.840 It just makes sense, though, because how you're gonna switch 1187 00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:39.360 your method and be able to promise someone you can 1188 00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:40.039 produce the same. 1189 00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:42.800 Right exactly and like and when I put it pen papers, 1190 00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:43.800 you call. 1191 00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:46.440 SOPs procedures, how you do ship, how you get it done, 1192 00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:48.159 whatever you want to call it, it's just it does 1193 00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:50.280 matter especially with something with growing. 1194 00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:52.199 When I get when I get it to paper and 1195 00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:56.039 like literally write on paper, Like my percentages are based 1196 00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:59.960 off of like plants per light equals certain amount of way, 1197 00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:02.000 which equals this, which he goes that, right, and like 1198 00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:05.079 in order to get those percentages to play out, you know, 1199 00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:07.039 like everything looks good on paper, right, and then you 1200 00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:09.239 put it in practice and it doesn't always work, Like, 1201 00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.480 but I did this one when I this was like 1202 00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.719 the fourth grow, fifth grow that I built out. So 1203 00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:18.159 like by the time I've done this, like I'm pretty 1204 00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:20.960 fucking verst on a lot of the things that you 1205 00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:24.280 have to do to survive with it. Right, So I 1206 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:28.159 have certain procedures or percentages in place, but it only 1207 00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:31.239 was based off of HPS, lights and like certain things. 1208 00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:33.360 And I wasn't in a situation where I was like 1209 00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:36.119 about to change anything, and so like it was like 1210 00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:39.320 bringing in the exact same one to three's like transplants. 1211 00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:42.719 Like I'm so procedure that I have a chart of 1212 00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.760 what to do every single day, like and it's typically 1213 00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:50.320 at this point, it's like clockwork. It's just procedures, Like 1214 00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:54.199 it's super easy to do, and like it's all stripped 1215 00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:56.960 down to like bare bones, to be as efficient as possible. 1216 00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:00.360 But at the end of the day, it'll allows me 1217 00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:02.000 to create the product that I was looking to do 1218 00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:04.119 in a market that was tough, and it was tough 1219 00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:06.559 for me to make sales even the first crop, right, 1220 00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:08.679 like nobody knew who the hell it was. So we 1221 00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:10.400 sold the first craft for less than what it was 1222 00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:12.480 worth and we got out from under it. And then 1223 00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:14.280 we got the dude that's doing our sales now like 1224 00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:16.920 by the second crop and boom, things were just rolling. 1225 00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:19.400 So and we've been selling out like in four hours 1226 00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:21.679 every time, like it's not hard to sell out. And 1227 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:23.440 we're forty eight light room. 1228 00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:25.599 Really good man, We're only in this market. 1229 00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.360 It's a forty eight light room harvesting once a month, 1230 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:33.519 so like we're not sitting on thousands of pounds, you know, 1231 00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:37.039 but like we're putting are high quality product out. We're 1232 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:42.280 putting the weights out that allow us to stay that's key, 1233 00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:45.039 just stay in business. Yeah, right, right, right, right, So 1234 00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:48.480 what strains do you guys have at GMO? Yeah, GMO, 1235 00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:50.559 so we have like twenty one different strains that were 1236 00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:51.400 running at any time. 1237 00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:52.519 I'm curious to try it. 1238 00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:54.000 I'll get it to you. 1239 00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:57.960 I'm just saying, even it's just a joint, bro. 1240 00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:00.320 But like I'm telling like GMO is, So we have 1241 00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.199 seven tables in a room, and each table has its 1242 00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:05.639 own strain. Sometimes we'll double up and do two strains 1243 00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:09.679 and like a strain and two tables, so we'll have 1244 00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:12.320 like six strains room versus seven, And then I'm able 1245 00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:16.039 to treat each row individually, water it differently, and if 1246 00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:18.039 it's the same strain, it makes things way more easy 1247 00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:21.119 or way easier, right, So yeah, no, and then we're 1248 00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:24.039 only producing like what twenty to maybe twenty pounds twenty 1249 00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:25.920 five pounds if we're lucky to get a fucking huge 1250 00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:28.159 runoff of one of the tables. So we're not producing 1251 00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:30.039 a ton of weight off a table, so it's easier 1252 00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:31.920 to get rid of, right, So I have more skews 1253 00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:34.360 to get rid of to the dispensaries. And that's in 1254 00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:36.480 a whole other strategy and game that we've. 1255 00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:40.239 Are you in n any shops in the metro Detroit area? 1256 00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:42.239 Do you know working on people out? 1257 00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:45.079 We can find us like kob typically has us, but 1258 00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:47.320 they have like one strain. So here's the thing, all right, 1259 00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:49.800 So I've got a message on Instagram the other day 1260 00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.800 about this, our marketing has been shit, and like I'm 1261 00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:54.840 willing to come out here and say it. And because 1262 00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:57.920 like I said before, like I don't really have much 1263 00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:02.320 to lose at this point, like our marketing, we have 1264 00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:05.119 not put a dollar into marketing, and like when the 1265 00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:07.199 money has been put into marketing, it hasn't been done 1266 00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:09.519 in the most proper ways to make us the most 1267 00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:13.519 efficient brand out there. And unfortunately I haven't had to 1268 00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:15.639 say in that side of the business. 1269 00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:18.760 Well unfortunately, like not unfortunately, excuse me. 1270 00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:21.559 I was gonna say, unfortunately, I learned the hard way, 1271 00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:23.920 but it is you learn that I should be thankful 1272 00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:26.079 I learned right, But I learned the value of marketing 1273 00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:28.599 over time, because brand is putting yourself in front of people. 1274 00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:30.360 Sometimes people think, oh I have a great product, people 1275 00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:32.360 are gonna know who I am. Okay, it's a very 1276 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:35.079 saturated world with the Internet and fake ads, Like you 1277 00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:36.880 have to really put yourself. 1278 00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:37.199 In front of people. 1279 00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:39.559 And if you don't, I mean, this guy taught me 1280 00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:41.000 like if I have to, you got to put yourself 1281 00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:41.440 in front of people. 1282 00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:43.239 Yeah, no, no, And I'm like here to do that, 1283 00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:44.719 and like I'm ready to do that. That's just like 1284 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:46.280 a whole other frustration that I have and on a 1285 00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:48.159 level of like, frustrations are still real and I still 1286 00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:49.440 struggle with shit every fucking. 1287 00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:50.440 Man like business. 1288 00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:53.280 Yeah, absolutely, trying. 1289 00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:56.039 To make everyone understand everything is tough sometimes when it's 1290 00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:56.679 like you. 1291 00:57:56.719 --> 00:58:02.880 Know, different people, yeah, differently like both never mind, so 1292 00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:04.880 not the best money he's putting in market. So I 1293 00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:06.519 got a message the other day the guy went to 1294 00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:09.039 one of the shops looking for our products and he's like, 1295 00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:11.360 I couldn't find it. So I asked him for the strain, 1296 00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:12.960 and then they just showed me the strain and it 1297 00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:15.920 was that because it's cherry ploma, and I don't know 1298 00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:18.320 like anybody in the state that's got cherry ploma. I 1299 00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:21.599 never it's this friend of mine, Jared Token, who found 1300 00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:24.880 that it's a raw genetics that is uh chopped cherry 1301 00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:27.440 by Georgia pie. So and it's like it can like 1302 00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:30.400 get like this pink. You can get like this pink 1303 00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:32.679 hue inside, like if it's grown just right, the light right, 1304 00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:35.440 leaf surface temperatures, like if everything is like everything fucking 1305 00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:40.480 equals out, then it a good color. And blue. 1306 00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:43.880 Perbs Man was my ship. 1307 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:47.000 Yeahs ever smoked good though he got like what you say, 1308 00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:49.079 I said, that was pretty stuff to pull that up 1309 00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:50.480 for sure, but that's all right. 1310 00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:54.239 But even saying but just like he said, you just 1311 00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:57.519 put the lid over, I was about pulling off. This 1312 00:58:57.599 --> 00:58:58.280 guy blocks it. 1313 00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:03.760 Yeah. Yeah, So you know, our marketing hasn't been the best. 1314 00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:05.800 So what I tell people at the end of the 1315 00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:07.480 day is when you go to these dispensaries looking for 1316 00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:09.920 my flower, you just ask for the strain and like 1317 00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:13.239 typically if it's like house Bud, that's probably mine. Or 1318 00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:15.280 if it's like in a weird off brand label that 1319 00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:17.400 somebody would like white label and put their own ship 1320 00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:18.360 out there, then it might. 1321 00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:20.320 Be that a lot of your stuff gets white labeled 1322 00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:22.360 because we hear a lot like it's moved like that 1323 00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:23.920 these days, because a lot of people we hear like 1324 00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:25.159 some of these brands we've heard of. 1325 00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:27.840 I think there's one dispensary in the state that honors 1326 00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:30.840 that we are faded, and that's Green Tree. And I 1327 00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:32.760 think he's got to shop and Ready and in cold Water. 1328 00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:37.119 I think he's the only one. Yeah, absolutely, sorry. 1329 00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:42.000 Wait where is it? Where's that writing and cold? 1330 00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:43.440 Yeah? 1331 00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:48.880 But sorry, I think they're the only ones that actually 1332 00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:51.840 have like because the guys like watched me for my 1333 00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:54.480 caregiver days to where I am today, Like he's always 1334 00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:57.239 been kind of following me, and like he's the I 1335 00:59:57.280 --> 00:59:59.440 think the only one that actually say honors faded everybody 1336 00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:01.079 else there. My it's too good. It's gonna go like 1337 01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:03.880 support to me, like you know, yeah, but my like 1338 01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:06.400 literally like I I'm not trying to fucking toot my 1339 01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:10.400 own horn to say, like when you told something enough times, 1340 01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.800 like it's got to be true, and like I grow 1341 01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:14.360 pretty good weed and. 1342 01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:16.800 Then I struggle with imposter syndrome all the time. 1343 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:18.559 But like you just said, as a beautiful way to 1344 01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:20.920 put this is sometimes when you're told things a million times, 1345 01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:23.400 like all right, sometimes it's not your place to judge you, 1346 01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:25.199 you know what I mean, So just like accept it. 1347 01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:28.360 It trusts me. It took me a long time to 1348 01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:30.360 get here. I'm like it can't be like like you know, 1349 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:33.639 and I've always been humble, like that's my upbringing, myself 1350 01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:36.519 a humble but this whole like leadership change and shift 1351 01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:40.199 of me too is kind of like humble is just 1352 01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:43.920 a creature of yourself. So like everything is and you 1353 01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:46.320 got to be able to internal control everything. Like everything 1354 01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:48.480 is about control and being able to control your own life, 1355 01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:51.239 control your own outcomes. Control, Like the world doesn't happen 1356 01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:53.360 to you, it happens for you, right I think I 1357 01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:58.280 said that, right, Like yeah, it's it's a journey. But 1358 01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:01.800 like again, I'm not trying to like be like potentials 1359 01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:03.599 or anything, but I grow with a good weed, Like 1360 01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:05.679 I like to smoke my own weed, and like I 1361 01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:08.400 was my biggest fucking critic for the longest time and 1362 01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:10.519 now it's hard for me to smoke other people's weed. 1363 01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:13.760 It's literally taken me these events to open up my 1364 01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:17.199 palette to other people's weed. Like I wasn't smoking on 1365 01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:20.400 anyone's weeds since like twenty sixteen when I switched to Coco, 1366 01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:22.719 Like that day I switched to Cocoa, I'm like, I 1367 01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:25.159 had a papiot punch that I grew back then, and 1368 01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:28.719 I'm like, I'm never smoking anybody else's weed ever again. 1369 01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:30.679 I'm like, I finally did it. I finally unlocked it. 1370 01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:32.639 It took me from twenty two thousand and nine to 1371 01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:36.280 twenty sixteen to finally like nail that where I was like, 1372 01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:40.159 this is it in my like for me, it was 1373 01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:42.880 it was getting out of Rockwell and getting into Coco, 1374 01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:45.519 like that was the biggest change that I made at 1375 01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:48.719 that point that I was like, damn, like that's where 1376 01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:51.119 my flavor's been missing. That's when like the dude in 1377 01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:53.360 twenty twelve who said you never grow good weed in 1378 01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:55.760 rock Wull and I'm like, fuck d yes, I will. 1379 01:01:56.119 --> 01:01:58.159 And I tried to struggle with it for four more 1380 01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:01.360 years and then I switched the first day and try 1381 01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:03.079 my first rain and I was like, oh, this is 1382 01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:04.960 what he meant, you know what I mean? Like I 1383 01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:06.960 was very stubborn, see at the time, So. 1384 01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:10.880 I understand that man's game being subber man. I feel 1385 01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:12.639 that well. I feel like unless you get. 1386 01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:16.199 Much younger man back, you gotta fail. Like they like 1387 01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:17.760 if we give you one piece. 1388 01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:19.880 Of old by any means, but I just mean, like 1389 01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.280 if you're I've taken a lot of risk and I fucked. 1390 01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:24.159 Up line I've learned maybe exactly said. 1391 01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:25.719 You got to mess up, you got to learn, you 1392 01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:27.679 got to get through it, because it's that's the only 1393 01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:28.480 one we out is. 1394 01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:28.840 Through, right. 1395 01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:32.000 I heard that saying, and that was back like you're 1396 01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:34.639 gonna take a step back but embrace that step. Like 1397 01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:36.360 the best thing we can do is be prepared for 1398 01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:38.679 it when it happens, so we know how to handle 1399 01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.159 it from moving forward, you know, Like that's the important 1400 01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:44.519 to be, like to be a handle failure and handle struggle, 1401 01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:47.119 is to be able to be prepared for it and 1402 01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:49.400 then once we do it, when it does happen, it 1403 01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:53.159 might not hit immediately, but eventually you're gonna be like that. 1404 01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:56.280 If it wasn't for that, maybe I wouldn't be doing 1405 01:02:56.320 --> 01:02:58.159 what I'm doing right now, right Like if I couldn't 1406 01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:01.360 pass those math tests, like would I be a teacher 1407 01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:03.280 right now? Or would I be a growing good ass weed? 1408 01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:05.360 And like way, probably happier with my life that I 1409 01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:07.159 am right now than no offense, but would have been 1410 01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:11.159 with the teacher probably, Yeah, that's the whole butterfly, that 1411 01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:14.519 millions of dollars on of weed instead of having my 1412 01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:16.199 own to be happy about, you know. 1413 01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:21.000 Like now you're leading events and you now, yeah, life evolves, 1414 01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:23.119 and I try to tell him, and I struggle with 1415 01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:24.159 im positive or my own thing. 1416 01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:26.199 And I think sometimes when you actually worked hard to 1417 01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:28.119 get somewhere, sometimes it's hard to beleeve that you might 1418 01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:30.360 be with those players, you know, just you know, I mean, 1419 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:31.960 that's what it is. You know a lot of people 1420 01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.960 out here selling garbage as like the best, and don't. 1421 01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:37.400 Think like I haven't, Like I haven't made mistakes in 1422 01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:39.360 the piece to Pass either, because that's part of it too, 1423 01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:41.599 Like that's just as much failure as everything. Everything else 1424 01:03:41.719 --> 01:03:43.360 is mistakes that we make and how we learn. 1425 01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:45.639 From Your event looks like it's really about to pop off. 1426 01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:47.119 I appreciate that, but I mean. 1427 01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:48.760 Like you said, and they compare to the last one. 1428 01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:50.119 I mean, it's about I mean, and then I'm sure 1429 01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:52.400 the first one, right, it's probably exponential to. 1430 01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:55.679 You it is. It's amazing the amount of support that 1431 01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:57.880 I get from it, and like the amount of feedback 1432 01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:01.840 of people that hit me up for tickets, and like 1433 01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:04.800 a lot of them. So I screen everybody, Like I 1434 01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:07.079 ask anybody who's randomly asked me for a ticket, I 1435 01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:09.400 asked them how they're involved in the industry, because that's 1436 01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:11.320 the tickets are meant for. They're not meant for the 1437 01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:13.199 public at this point. They're meant for people who are 1438 01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:15.719 fucking out there doing it and like deserve to be 1439 01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:21.400 fucking rewarded for the work that they do tender, but 1440 01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:25.440 podcast are a bud tender. Uh, they like growers. Like 1441 01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:29.159 That's that's when I started all of this. The goal 1442 01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:32.559 was to fucking celebrate the grower, and it's just evolved 1443 01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:35.039 into like the more the industry and we'll go back 1444 01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:36.559 to the Growers Gala. I think that's gonna be the 1445 01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:38.559 May event. It's gonna be Growers galaon number two, So 1446 01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:42.360 that'll be a very grower eccentric event where like we're 1447 01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:46.760 pushing like celebrate the grower, you know, and uh, the 1448 01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:50.199 August event may evolve like I'm not sure, Like I'm 1449 01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:52.880 still trying to that's a TVD right, Like that one 1450 01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:55.960 might turn into more of a public event and like that, 1451 01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:59.039 So that way brands will have a chance to showcase 1452 01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:01.320 what they do to to the public and not just 1453 01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:03.599 like to other brands or like dispensaries, but like to 1454 01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:09.280 be able to hey, look, uh like these the people 1455 01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:11.079 that want to pay the money to come to the event, 1456 01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:12.960 like and like it's not even like I said, it's 1457 01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:14.480 not about the money, but if these people want to 1458 01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:16.880 put money in to go see and do something like this, 1459 01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:21.039 then uh there's an opportunity for the brands to be 1460 01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:23.960 able to display to those people who are passionate about 1461 01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:26.559 doing something like this their products and then hopefully that 1462 01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:28.960 drives better sales the dispensaries, right, because that's going to 1463 01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:30.880 be the consumer that's going out there by it, Right, 1464 01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:33.360 that's going to be the people that are uh influencing 1465 01:05:33.519 --> 01:05:36.039 the most on it, And we're trying to evolve the 1466 01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:40.320 consumer as well, right, Like it's unfortunate, but this still 1467 01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:42.599 is a game of THHD percentage and the way the 1468 01:05:42.719 --> 01:05:46.079 sales go throughout the market is based on THHC percentages, 1469 01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:49.119 And there's games we have to play to be a 1470 01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:51.400 cultivation to stay alive in this market. 1471 01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:53.840 Like there's how we've heard tons of brands like that 1472 01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:55.920 have to like throw as strains that they love because 1473 01:05:56.480 --> 01:05:59.480 percentages it's just not strong enough. And it's like that's crazy. 1474 01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:00.440 So it's crazy. 1475 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:03.320 And again I'll be transparent about this. It really doesn't 1476 01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:06.079 matter to me. There's games that I play and there's 1477 01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:08.599 certain labs that give me the results that I'm looking for, 1478 01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:11.519 and like there's no reason for me to change that 1479 01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.000 when it means the difference between me getting a thousand 1480 01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:18.719 and eleven twelve thirteen fourteen hundred a pound to eight 1481 01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:22.360 seven fifty six hundred, right, Like it's a massive deal, 1482 01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:25.679 Like that's a big jump, and like again, I'm just 1483 01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:32.039 completely against the way that the system is, if not 1484 01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:35.320 the system like the state, but the system of people's 1485 01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:39.519 minds thinking THHD drives everything because we know, like Terpean's 1486 01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:41.360 like are such a big part of a the entroage 1487 01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:43.639 effect of everything that's going on is what matters at 1488 01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:44.239 the end of the day. 1489 01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:46.760 Yeah, I mean, but again, and that's what I feel 1490 01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:49.119 one hundred percent, and I think you know, you know, 1491 01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:51.079 and unfortunately when you say play the game, it's like 1492 01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:52.880 such a thing. That's like that's why we do need 1493 01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:55.239 a standard so everyone could just be I wish there was. 1494 01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:57.519 A standard, but it's just not going to happen. They're 1495 01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:00.440 the infighting and the politics and the bureaucracy that goes 1496 01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:02.320 into all that behind the scenes. 1497 01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:04.519 Like, dude, the community doesn't know how much politics is 1498 01:07:04.599 --> 01:07:07.880 in this game because they're not even I. 1499 01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:14.480 Mean in fighting, the infighting, the fighting between people between companies. 1500 01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:17.440 That's wasn't the fucking problem with a lot of this ship. 1501 01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:19.440 Because they're fighting, they're going to a bunch, they're slitting 1502 01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:21.840 each other, throat, but it was set up in it's 1503 01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:27.199 in a system that was broken like having the for instance, 1504 01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:31.079 labs being independent on their own and like cool, like 1505 01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:32.800 good for all these labs that are out there doing it, 1506 01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:35.559 But the states should have went about this in a 1507 01:07:35.719 --> 01:07:40.159 more like it's got to pass these like state labs 1508 01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:46.519 like these are individual companies that are profit driven versus 1509 01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:49.719 something that would be like government backed or government ran 1510 01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:53.199 that isn't necessarily worried about profit but getting results out there, 1511 01:07:53.639 --> 01:07:58.079 right Like, So my frustration stems from this. So we 1512 01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:00.199 had some product that was pulled off the shell in 1513 01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:06.639 somebody else's label that was tested independently and an independent test, 1514 01:08:07.159 --> 01:08:09.440 not by the state. The state did not do this. 1515 01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:11.880 This is somebody that did it on their own. Took 1516 01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:13.920 my product off the shelf, and a couple other big 1517 01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:16.119 brands in the state. I'm not going to say names, 1518 01:08:16.439 --> 01:08:18.680 but a couple of other big brands that are well 1519 01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:21.039 known had the exact same thing happened at the exact 1520 01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:22.800 same time. They took my product and they took their 1521 01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:26.279 product off the shelf, tested it. It failed, so they 1522 01:08:26.319 --> 01:08:29.079 put it on hold. So that means every dispensary that 1523 01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:31.439 has that product can't sell it. Anything that I have 1524 01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:32.840 in my inventory can't sell it. 1525 01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:34.840 Oh damn you just that one batch. 1526 01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:39.079 That one batch failed. So they sent that failure to 1527 01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:42.119 the state. The state obviously analyzed it, put everything on 1528 01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:46.000 hold immediately. It was on hold for probably twelve weeks. 1529 01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:48.680 So now you're probably starting to degrade and sent on 1530 01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:51.039 the shelves that dispensaries can't move it, they have to 1531 01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:52.640 sit on it. They can't send it back to you, 1532 01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:55.159 they transport, can't touch it. It's on hold. You can't 1533 01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:55.640 do anything. 1534 01:08:57.399 --> 01:08:58.000 It was just a batch. 1535 01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:01.000 Yeah, no, No, it's the entire batch of the entire 1536 01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:04.880 package source tag that would would have drived that product. 1537 01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:07.880 So it drives all the way back to the original 1538 01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:10.319 tag that's made for that off of the harvest. 1539 01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:10.920 Right. 1540 01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:13.479 So and this is all part of the monitoring system. 1541 01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:17.119 So then the state sends their individual labs, like they 1542 01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:21.399 go in contract labs to go take a sample and 1543 01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:24.079 test it on themselves or tested themselves. So we had 1544 01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:27.279 a lab come in, independent lab came in, took the sample, 1545 01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:30.880 went so get to their lab and it passed. So 1546 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:37.159 the system's broken, right, there's there's super there's tons of inconsistencies. 1547 01:09:37.199 --> 01:09:40.279 Here that unfortunately, we're just not going to get passed 1548 01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:42.520 because there's too much policies behind it, and like that 1549 01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:46.840 creates infighting between people and creates competition, It creates the 1550 01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:49.640 wrong side. And if it creates competition, those businesses are 1551 01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:51.800 trying to survive too. So if that means that it 1552 01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:54.640 gets cut throat, why are we plus and minus ten percent? 1553 01:09:56.199 --> 01:10:00.600 Like I understand, we've made that joke a million times, 1554 01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:05.520 so it might get scientifically. Scientifically, I understand, but there's 1555 01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:08.840 better methods, like and like you could have implemented these better. 1556 01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:11.199 That's why we always talk about you know, cannabinoid's not 1557 01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:13.560 trudgeffect and appreciating in different ways, not just to you, 1558 01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:15.560 Like what is you value that smoke for? 1559 01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:17.479 Like you know, I have different terms for different reasons. 1560 01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:19.319 I have different smokes for different reasons, Right, I like 1561 01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:21.600 to eat edibles at certain times, Like that's the beauty 1562 01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:22.039 of this plant. 1563 01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:23.640 People forget. There's so many parts. 1564 01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:25.079 I like to smoke it joining in the morning with 1565 01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:31.560 the coffee and a certain time, like correctly, exactly, it's 1566 01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:34.319 about like that. As growers, we see the different ways 1567 01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:41.359 of the plants grow like that in itself expressed expression, Right, Yeah, there's. 1568 01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:43.800 So many different levels of what cannabis can do for you, 1569 01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.119 and I think it's just learning how to appreciate every way. 1570 01:10:46.119 --> 01:10:48.760 And I think you're you're very right that competition creates 1571 01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:51.840 this need for something that can make it better because 1572 01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:54.720 because unfortunately, sometimes when you just say you gotta smoke. 1573 01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:56.560 It, people don't want that. They want their used to 1574 01:10:56.680 --> 01:10:57.479 like this one's. 1575 01:10:57.319 --> 01:10:59.880 Better because it's because of this, And like you know, 1576 01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:03.000 I wonder efects brings a lot of gray area for people. 1577 01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:06.520 I wonder to myself sometimes how niche that we are 1578 01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:11.840 as like uh kind of sewer or like like people 1579 01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:14.960 that care this much? Like like are we like what 1580 01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:18.159 segment of the population are we actually are we like 1581 01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:20.960 a very small percentage and we just don't even realize it. 1582 01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:22.680 We're just like stuck in our little nische And. 1583 01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:24.760 Like I think it's expanding, but I think it is 1584 01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:27.800 a smaller percentage. Now I think I might be exaggerating, 1585 01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:30.119 but it's only one percent. It might be like ten percent. 1586 01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:32.399 But when you talk twenty percent when you talk about 1587 01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:34.960 the general market, I always like that eighty twenty rule, right, 1588 01:11:35.159 --> 01:11:37.720 So we're probably unfortunately the twenty less. 1589 01:11:38.359 --> 01:11:39.960 I think we're less. I think we're like five. 1590 01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:43.520 My point is not the majority here, because unfortunately the 1591 01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:45.720 majority is like exactly. But that's what I'm trying to 1592 01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:47.239 say is because they're used to be able to go, like, 1593 01:11:48.079 --> 01:11:50.119 you know, I hate to compare it to everything else 1594 01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:52.039 because I'm really getting sick of comparing it to like 1595 01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:55.359 alcohol other things. Right, But people need some type of measurement. 1596 01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:57.119 That's all they really want. Are you all compare it 1597 01:11:57.159 --> 01:11:57.479 to food? 1598 01:11:57.560 --> 01:12:01.199 Right? It just they want that measurement was that first 1599 01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:02.880 one there? So it's just. 1600 01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:07.840 And so again it's unfortunately re educate with some stuff 1601 01:12:07.880 --> 01:12:11.319 here that's twenty four percent that like gets me rips 1602 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.560 and GMO comes thirty plus and that gets me ripped 1603 01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:16.720 to but in a different way. Yeah you know what 1604 01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:19.159 I mean, Like, yeah, I'm not saying that like it's 1605 01:12:19.399 --> 01:12:22.199 a stronger percentage, so it's getting me stronger high. No, 1606 01:12:22.319 --> 01:12:24.520 it's it's like, and I get this is even a 1607 01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:26.920 smaller segment of the population. Is the people that actually 1608 01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:29.399 can smoke and understand the differences of what the flower 1609 01:12:29.479 --> 01:12:31.680 is doing to you versus the people that smoke and. 1610 01:12:31.720 --> 01:12:34.520 Are just like ripped right right, the just there they 1611 01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:37.039 eat Yeah, yeah, that's a level. 1612 01:12:37.279 --> 01:12:37.439 Yeah. 1613 01:12:37.439 --> 01:12:41.560 Absolutely. There's people in my family that like can't smoke. 1614 01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:43.960 Like they see me smoke like I do and they're like, 1615 01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:45.439 how do you do that? 1616 01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:48.439 I'm like, do what dude in the. 1617 01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:50.760 Morning like and my cousins be like what like when 1618 01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:52.640 they see them, Like, I don't know, man, Relax, I'm fine. 1619 01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:55.840 I get like I get worse without it, Like you'll 1620 01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:58.960 see me get all up tight and like shit anxious. 1621 01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:00.800 You ever have someone like just vent to you on 1622 01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:02.800 how we makes them like, oh my god, I couldn't 1623 01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:04.880 do that. I'd be so lazy. All right, Cool, I'm not. 1624 01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:09.960 No. So I get like dads like because I got 1625 01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:11.439 my kids are getting a little older, but I get 1626 01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:14.520 dads that like want to smoke weed with me and like, dude, 1627 01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:15.239 like it's. 1628 01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:16.000 It's not good. 1629 01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:19.760 It's never never as well, they're like they're like, seem 1630 01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:21.359 to me to smoke a whole joint. They try to 1631 01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:23.000 take three hits and then by the end of it 1632 01:13:23.079 --> 01:13:24.479 their pale and like, yeah, this. 1633 01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:26.479 Is a different game these days when you try to 1634 01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:29.439 but you got to keep up. This is a vault. Yeah, 1635 01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:31.840 you know, isn't like Reggie, I. 1636 01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:34.439 Have to be like you have to understand this isn't 1637 01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:37.039 the stuff that you get at the dispensary, Like, this 1638 01:13:37.199 --> 01:13:40.159 isn't the ninety or the eighty sixty dollars ounce like, 1639 01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:41.399 this is different. 1640 01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:43.840 I got. 1641 01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:47.399 I got a quality over quantity. Man, absolutely, well, so 1642 01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:49.560 you can still do it and get your quantity. I 1643 01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:51.000 still get quantity like. 1644 01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:53.920 Like no, I just mean like it. I mean like 1645 01:13:54.039 --> 01:13:58.239 sometimes the value of it. Oh yeah, getting the best deal. 1646 01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:02.680 Yeah yeah yeah. It's not like I'm not correlating directly 1647 01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:03.079 to girl. 1648 01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:08.600 I'm like, no, I don't, girl. He's the perspective you 1649 01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:10.800 can like in the girl sorry and the girl. 1650 01:14:10.840 --> 01:14:13.119 I'm going back to the girls. I'm a girler at heart, 1651 01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:14.760 Like should I do with the events? I do the 1652 01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:18.439 advanced thing? Like I'm like, like, I'm super lucky to 1653 01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:20.159 do the advance thing because what I get to do 1654 01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:23.039 now is go into other people's growths. And like I 1655 01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:25.600 just had a meeting with a guy in Kalamazoo Grass 1656 01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:27.520 Harper Farms, and I walked into that room and I 1657 01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:32.520 was like, guys like, man, like, I'm here represented advanced nutrients. 1658 01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:35.319 But this is my story. This is why I'm actually here. 1659 01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:38.399 I'm here not as a salesman. I'm here is for support, 1660 01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:42.319 like or like just to like make the relationship and 1661 01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:45.319 learn how you do it. Maybe I can take some 1662 01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:47.479 information out of that, like learn some new things and 1663 01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:49.760 tricks and ship that I don't already know because like 1664 01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:53.319 I've it's hard to do impress me now, but it's 1665 01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:55.319 still like one of my passions is to go into 1666 01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:56.920 other people's grows and just see how they do it. 1667 01:14:57.279 --> 01:14:59.920 Like that's like super like I truly think, Like. 1668 01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:01.840 I mean, I do music and stuff, so I think 1669 01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:03.760 whenever I'm talking to someone who does music right, there's 1670 01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:06.000 always a unique perspective you can learn, whether it's actually 1671 01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:07.720 something you're going to take to the bank or just like, 1672 01:15:07.920 --> 01:15:10.319 oh that's an interesting you know, like I think there's. 1673 01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:12.920 Somebody just helping, Like somebody has a problem me. I'm like, dude, 1674 01:15:12.960 --> 01:15:14.439 like if you try this, or if you try that, 1675 01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:17.239 or like like I said, I'm very like touching my senses. 1676 01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:19.359 I remember one guy he was having an issue you 1677 01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:20.920 could not figure it out for the life of him, 1678 01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:24.840 and he like had me come to his grow and 1679 01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:26.560 I went and I checked it out. I checked the 1680 01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:29.239 spot out, like like it didn't take much for me. 1681 01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:31.399 I just like looked up and like a field, there's 1682 01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:33.880 more heat in that spot, and like there was like 1683 01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:35.640 I forget it was a heat duck or a CO 1684 01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:37.760 two generator or something like that. It was like right 1685 01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:40.000 there off gassing and like hot, that's what it was, 1686 01:15:40.039 --> 01:15:43.600 a CO two generator. Like is this Like it was obvious, 1687 01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:45.920 like this is what your issue is like and like 1688 01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:50.079 that's elementary right, Like, but there's just certain things that 1689 01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:53.359 you just kind of pick up on and I don't know. 1690 01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:57.720 But no experience, yeah, literally where you get to know 1691 01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:00.439 something you're just kind of in tune, yeah, and then 1692 01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:02.520 being able when you meet with all these other growers 1693 01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:05.279 going with advance, you're to your stuff that you might 1694 01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:07.279 take a little bit, but you're probably teaching them more 1695 01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:08.239 and then they're probably. 1696 01:16:08.359 --> 01:16:11.800 Even doing like yeah, it's like pick my brain, like sure, 1697 01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:14.079 like some of these guys, I'm not saying this is 1698 01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:15.640 this with far most, but some of these guys that 1699 01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:18.239 are more beginner into this and need help, and like 1700 01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:21.199 especially the younger generally, Like there's a younger generation too 1701 01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:23.640 that we guys are like realizing that they're gonna start 1702 01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:26.560 growing too. Like I'm about to be forty, but I 1703 01:16:27.039 --> 01:16:29.319 feel like I'm in my twenties, but I realized that 1704 01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:31.239 the dudes in their twenties are like almost twenty years 1705 01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:33.319 younger than me. So like when I was twenty four 1706 01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:36.720 doing this, they were like four. I'm like, so you 1707 01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:37.560 know what I mean, Like, so. 1708 01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:41.039 I it and like this is another kind of yeah, 1709 01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:43.640 why do you say it like that? So this is 1710 01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:45.760 another kind of thing I think so much deeper. 1711 01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:49.279 Man, It's another thing that's really been Like a similarity 1712 01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:52.039 I keep seeing often is like, at least on the 1713 01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:57.199 cultivation side, most growers are not older than fifty years old. 1714 01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:01.399 Like I would say, like a good percentage of like 1715 01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:05.880 license cultivations, like head growers, guys that are running are 1716 01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:08.680 not past fifty years old, and like it's just a 1717 01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:11.760 young man's game and a young man's industry, Like we 1718 01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:14.680 are the stepping stone that are gonna be almost money. 1719 01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:16.479 I kind of agree, but I do feel like there's 1720 01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:18.640 a lot of you know, old cats growing, but only 1721 01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:20.479 it might just be for obvious, it might be more 1722 01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:22.319 for like I'm talking about licensed producers. 1723 01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:26.439 I'm talking about like like like Metric or like guys 1724 01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:28.960 in the different states that are the license right. I 1725 01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:32.800 would say a majority of the ages between the ages 1726 01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:37.000 of probably thirty maybe I don't say twenty eight, thirty 1727 01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:39.000 two to forty six. 1728 01:17:39.319 --> 01:17:39.920 You're right, that's it. 1729 01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:41.840 That makes sense because that's a lot of that master 1730 01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:44.880 girw age because just where cannabis was and how it's populated. 1731 01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:46.279 Like I said, it's a young man's game. 1732 01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:48.920 It is well, and I consider myself young. That's why 1733 01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:51.800 I'm putting myself in a young man's game democratic because 1734 01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:54.359 there's now the sixties, seventies, eighties year old that are 1735 01:17:54.399 --> 01:17:57.000 out here. Sure they are, but they're like they're never 1736 01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:58.359 doing it on the commercial scale. 1737 01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:01.920 I was saying, I've seen more old school guys just 1738 01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:02.199 be like. 1739 01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:05.399 It's an old school guy exactly. And they are the 1740 01:18:05.760 --> 01:18:08.000 they are the legacy, like they are the ones that 1741 01:18:08.119 --> 01:18:10.239 got us going and got us to where we are today, right, 1742 01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:13.119 they deserve all their due respect. Like that's what I was, 1743 01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:15.880 what I have, what I started, but I ain't clarified enough. 1744 01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:18.479 Like what I mean is like totally like on the 1745 01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:22.520 license stage the average bringing up. 1746 01:18:22.479 --> 01:18:24.079 Though, because you are you mean, you're seeing some of 1747 01:18:24.119 --> 01:18:26.439 these master growers, like you said, their forty year old dudes, 1748 01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:27.960 thirty year old, forty two. 1749 01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:30.399 I don't love the term master grower, but but you 1750 01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:31.600 know what I'm saying, Like, no. 1751 01:18:32.239 --> 01:18:34.239 You know, I'm saying I call them that because I 1752 01:18:34.319 --> 01:18:36.039 mean like they're growing in a higher level, like a 1753 01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:36.720 higher scam. 1754 01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:39.319 That's what the people call them in the industry, Like, 1755 01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:41.439 you know, is that still the terms? I feel like 1756 01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:44.760 that's what that's what people I. 1757 01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:46.319 Don't know, I don't I don't like being called master 1758 01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:51.560 saying the head grower, headgrower, grow I don't know. 1759 01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:54.399 There's always someone like, hey, this is our lead grow 1760 01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:56.159 this is our head grower, this is our master grower. 1761 01:18:56.199 --> 01:18:57.239 It's always something I'm. 1762 01:18:57.560 --> 01:18:59.760 Like, I'm the chief cultivation officer. I'm not the one 1763 01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:03.079 that or the director of cultivation. That's the good one, 1764 01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:05.520 the directors of cultivation, that's the one I should have 1765 01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:07.239 used in the beginning, directing. 1766 01:19:07.119 --> 01:19:09.800 Cultures got this lower the Hopefully I'll just keep pulling 1767 01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:10.720 up different lower thirds. 1768 01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:15.399 But like that, that's important. It's fun to know because 1769 01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:16.920 like we are the ones that are going to train 1770 01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:19.000 the future, like we are the ones the ones that 1771 01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:20.960 are because there's nobody else that's kind of doing it 1772 01:19:21.039 --> 01:19:23.760 for us except that sure these legacy guys like I said, 1773 01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:25.960 and I could respect to everybody and the people that 1774 01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:28.039 have been in it for a very long time, but 1775 01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:30.640 I know growers that are in their early forties that 1776 01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:32.680 have been doing this since like the early two thousands too, 1777 01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:34.840 like the two thousand and three to one, right, or 1778 01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:37.520 even like some of them that maybe started when they 1779 01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:39.520 were like thirteen fourteen years old because they were parents 1780 01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:41.920 were doing it, and then eventually it turned them into 1781 01:19:42.439 --> 01:19:45.920 the California stage. Like that's that's been big cultivation for 1782 01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:48.920 a long time. A lot of it obviously trap, but. 1783 01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:53.319 Genetics, I mean, that's kind of like we're still in that. 1784 01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:54.760 People forget how new this. 1785 01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:56.840 I mean we talk about it like because we've been 1786 01:19:56.920 --> 01:19:59.920 around in the industry so much, but relatively it's still. 1787 01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:02.159 I would say, I don't know if I've been in 1788 01:20:02.319 --> 01:20:04.520 one cultivation that's been like a dude that's like over 1789 01:20:04.600 --> 01:20:09.960 fifty years old, that's like running the show. Yeah, owners, owners, owners, 1790 01:20:10.119 --> 01:20:11.119 money behind. 1791 01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:14.840 After dads or like, I just never really thought about 1792 01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:16.159 it like that. But it's kind of a interesting fact 1793 01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:17.119 you bring up because you're. 1794 01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:20.039 It's a young man's game, so we have the opportunity 1795 01:20:20.119 --> 01:20:22.520 to drive this industry and the direction we wanted to 1796 01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:26.479 take it, and like if we are starting to understand 1797 01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:30.239 that these younger guys, uh, they're going to be the 1798 01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:32.479 people replacing us, Like we have to be good trainers 1799 01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:34.279 and teachers with them too, Like it can't just be 1800 01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:37.159 uh stuck in your way, stuck in your shell, Like 1801 01:20:37.239 --> 01:20:39.960 it's important. So I gotta be ready to train that 1802 01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:42.119 next generation because like as much as like I'm a 1803 01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:44.000 four year old looking back looking at twenty year old 1804 01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:48.479 train now being like that's it, that's that's the new generation. 1805 01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:50.600 There are some good ones out there still though, like 1806 01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:54.960 that's series. Yeah, no, just like they don't seem to 1807 01:20:55.039 --> 01:20:59.079 have the same drive as some of us older full. 1808 01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:02.159 Yeah, because this is what's funny though, every generation, like 1809 01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:03.439 it's just easier for them. 1810 01:21:04.279 --> 01:21:08.600 It's just easier. But I mean not like there's more. 1811 01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:09.119 There's more. 1812 01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.640 There's more information available for them than there was for 1813 01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:14.239 me when I was there's. 1814 01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:16.960 More opportunities possible if you have access to the information, 1815 01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:18.680 because you said things could be self taught. 1816 01:21:18.760 --> 01:21:20.279 Now I think that's kind of what you're pointing. It 1817 01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:23.800 is that there's the ability to just write, there's abaility to. 1818 01:21:23.960 --> 01:21:26.399 Like get ahead, like you know where I mean, it 1819 01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:28.880 just took a lot more to nasty, No doubt. 1820 01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:32.119 I heard you, Like nope, but I get you. It's 1821 01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:32.640 kind of funny. 1822 01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:34.840 Then it's just like it's it's just kind of it's 1823 01:21:34.840 --> 01:21:38.079 strange to think about that, uh, that we are like 1824 01:21:38.399 --> 01:21:40.359 in a situation that we are in an industry that 1825 01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:42.760 that we are so and we're lucky to be doing 1826 01:21:42.840 --> 01:21:44.520 what we're doing and not going to jail for it. 1827 01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:46.880 That's that's the again. 1828 01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:49.760 Then everyone thing there, You know, we got to ask 1829 01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:51.319 you one question. I don't know if we got there. 1830 01:21:51.319 --> 01:21:52.680 It's usually one of our last questions. 1831 01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:54.720 Is there anything you want to say or anything like 1832 01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:56.560 towards we get towards the end here, because I want 1833 01:21:56.560 --> 01:21:58.119 to make sure you shout out anyone else? Do you 1834 01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:00.880 want to shout out any like fam out there and homies. 1835 01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:00.960 Like any of. 1836 01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:04.960 My crew, like if I don't doubt any of them 1837 01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:08.119 will hear this. But there's still fucking killers, like I 1838 01:22:08.199 --> 01:22:10.920 appreciate them more than anybody's. Without them, I wouldn't be 1839 01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:12.800 able to do the things that I do, and they're 1840 01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:15.199 able to put my plan in place and and uh 1841 01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:19.239 uh so yeah, there's them. There's my family that helps 1842 01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:22.079 me with my events. And then there's all the like 1843 01:22:22.399 --> 01:22:25.199 sponsors and the people that put money into pre rolls 1844 01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:29.079 and dad bars and dowing up bars and like the 1845 01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:31.640 people that helped me put this event on because like 1846 01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:33.960 I can't just do it by myself. Like those guys 1847 01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:36.039 I appreciate And so shout out to all of those 1848 01:22:36.079 --> 01:22:37.720 anybody that's not any of my banners, Like I'm not 1849 01:22:37.800 --> 01:22:42.279 gonna sit your name names, but they're all public people. 1850 01:22:43.199 --> 01:22:44.680 You just give me a quick shout out because like 1851 01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:46.920 sometimes you never know who we'll hear it. And like, honestly, 1852 01:22:47.119 --> 01:22:48.920 just like that energy out there is just like I 1853 01:22:49.039 --> 01:22:50.359 love to just shout out the homies. 1854 01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:52.399 You got a lot of great brands. Good right man. 1855 01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:53.880 I love seeing all those names out there. 1856 01:22:54.039 --> 01:22:55.399 Yeah it's again, I. 1857 01:22:56.960 --> 01:22:57.079 Uh. 1858 01:22:57.680 --> 01:23:00.800 You build these these relationships through professionals them and like 1859 01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:04.680 being authentic, being yourself, always being on treating everybody the 1860 01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:07.520 same and everybody's equals. Like nobody is a blower above me. 1861 01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:10.920 And that's like, and there's no top of the bank, 1862 01:23:11.479 --> 01:23:13.479 there's no top of the mountain. You're always climbing, and 1863 01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:15.439 the day that you can think you reach the top 1864 01:23:15.560 --> 01:23:17.600 is the day they get knock great off. So just 1865 01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:18.239 keep climbing. 1866 01:23:18.680 --> 01:23:23.520 That's true, do your thing. But we got to ask 1867 01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:25.399 the fun question. Yeah yeah, So we asked every guest 1868 01:23:25.439 --> 01:23:28.800 to this, every guest that's been on. Uh so obviously 1869 01:23:28.880 --> 01:23:29.560 you love your flower. 1870 01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:31.760 So imagine you're breaking up some of your bud knock 1871 01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:33.800 it out, and the genie pops out and you get 1872 01:23:33.880 --> 01:23:36.000 one wish. He grants you one wish to change anything 1873 01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:37.520 in the cannabis industry. 1874 01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:43.600 Change anything in the cannabis industry. Oh man, I wish 1875 01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:45.319 I would have watched the previous episodes, so I would 1876 01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:46.399 have been like, oh, this is. 1877 01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:48.680 This. 1878 01:23:49.159 --> 01:23:51.279 It's always it's funny though no one has just like 1879 01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:54.159 remembers are like a couple of people maybe, so this. 1880 01:23:54.359 --> 01:23:56.880 Is actually pretty easy for me. It's it's too it's 1881 01:23:56.960 --> 01:23:59.920 my mission. It is to change the professionalism throughout the industry, 1882 01:24:00.479 --> 01:24:04.159 just to raise everybody to another level, to uh not 1883 01:24:04.359 --> 01:24:10.479 have this bullshit that goes on money withheld, you know, 1884 01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:13.479 the drama, like just to truth to raise this And 1885 01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:16.319 it's probably all industries that are like this. We just 1886 01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:18.159 I just see it in my industry because I'm not 1887 01:24:18.319 --> 01:24:20.039 in automotive or whatever else. 1888 01:24:20.119 --> 01:24:22.720 But like I do feel like they're because of this 1889 01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:25.119 gray area. People are not paying their bills as they 1890 01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:27.199 should because there is this gray area. 1891 01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:28.920 But likes. 1892 01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:31.840 We go on for days, that's what. 1893 01:24:32.119 --> 01:24:34.119 But this industry I'm saying, like because usually you would 1894 01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:37.760 just see it, but you can sometimes there's gray so you. 1895 01:24:37.760 --> 01:24:39.720 Can see somebody, but it doesn't mean you can actually 1896 01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:44.079 get cost how much money? So sometimes you can't ford 1897 01:24:44.079 --> 01:24:46.840 to do skip tracing at one point in my life 1898 01:24:46.880 --> 01:24:50.760 and I'm like chasing debt down and I'm like, you 1899 01:24:54.199 --> 01:24:56.920 consume is time and that's what is at the end 1900 01:24:56.960 --> 01:24:59.199 of the day, the most valuable thing, Like time is 1901 01:24:59.399 --> 01:25:02.199 like we all have the same amount of hours in 1902 01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:04.840 the day. Nobody gets any action, nobody gets anything. Like 1903 01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:07.720 if I can spend my time more at home, you know, 1904 01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:09.960 like with my family, raise my kids, then that's what 1905 01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:11.640 I would rather do, or traveling or something. 1906 01:25:11.680 --> 01:25:13.239 And really, I guess I'm totally off. I guess I 1907 01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:15.359 should have said cola because it's really this like, hey, 1908 01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:16.800 i'll pay for it later thing because a lot of 1909 01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:18.439 times when you eat a product, you just pay for it. 1910 01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:20.479 That's what I should have led with because I wasn't 1911 01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:24.000 gonna say that thereafter, Yeah, because because like what industry 1912 01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:26.159 does that, and I guess I don't know. 1913 01:25:27.159 --> 01:25:28.600 And it's hard on everybody. It's not just hard on 1914 01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:30.319 one person, Like it's not just hard on you, it's 1915 01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:32.119 hard on everybody. It's hard on every sector right now. 1916 01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:34.960 It's not just like just one way street of oh 1917 01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:37.000 my god, Like we all need to be in it 1918 01:25:37.119 --> 01:25:39.399 to help each other, and like if we were able 1919 01:25:39.439 --> 01:25:42.000 to raise that professionalism up a little bit more, then 1920 01:25:42.039 --> 01:25:44.479 maybe we'd be like not having the stigmas. 1921 01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:44.319 That we do. 1922 01:25:44.479 --> 01:25:46.279 And like, I don't know if it happens as much 1923 01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:47.840 anymore as it used to, But I came up in 1924 01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:50.119 a time where like you didn't tell people what you did, 1925 01:25:51.119 --> 01:25:52.720 Like I didn't tell people what I did until I 1926 01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:54.960 got license, and I like started to be like I 1927 01:25:55.039 --> 01:25:57.239 don't fucking care anymore. I'm not going to jail for 1928 01:25:57.319 --> 01:25:57.960 this anymore, you. 1929 01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:00.800 Know, Like it's legal, legal, we can run it. 1930 01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:04.560 So I think that would be it, you know, or 1931 01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:09.359 like a bunch of weed whenever I want it, and 1932 01:26:09.439 --> 01:26:11.920 I don't have to go fucking do all that hard 1933 01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:15.119 ass work anymore, right, Like my guys are fucking great, 1934 01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:17.399 Don't get me wrong, my guys are great at this 1935 01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:21.079 work is not below me whatsoever. But I've been picking leaves, 1936 01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:26.199 I've been cutting clones, I've been topping plants, I've been watering, 1937 01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:30.199 I've been fucking blocking steaks. Make sure there's certain plants. 1938 01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:34.399 Like I'm very like I'm like per perfect perfectionist as 1939 01:26:34.479 --> 01:26:38.800 well like or per looking perfectionism, Like I want everything perfect, 1940 01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:41.000 but I realized there's no such thing as perfect. So 1941 01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:42.800 it's like a fucking never any battle. So I want 1942 01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:44.680 to always see everything the way that I want it. 1943 01:26:44.720 --> 01:26:51.520 But anyways, that's would be the other thart, Like let 1944 01:26:51.560 --> 01:26:55.279 me fucking like save my back. I love what I do. 1945 01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:56.640 I don't get me wrong. I love what I do. 1946 01:26:56.720 --> 01:26:57.600 I love being in the garden. 1947 01:26:59.279 --> 01:27:00.800 Have the blud right there. You don't go through the 1948 01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:02.840 whole process, just your quality perfectly. 1949 01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:05.560 Yeah, let's go. This is not a slight smit dudes 1950 01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:07.319 or anything like that. Like we could grow good weed 1951 01:27:07.399 --> 01:27:09.960 and like it's just all the work that goes into it. 1952 01:27:11.319 --> 01:27:13.239 Let me even fucking back that up a little bit more. 1953 01:27:13.439 --> 01:27:15.680 How about like I could have my own grow in 1954 01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:19.199 my own town, Like that would be sick, Like I 1955 01:27:19.319 --> 01:27:21.079 have a grow where I live where I got to 1956 01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:23.159 drive five minutes to work, so like, yeah, we need 1957 01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:25.960 to expand those two. Like twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen, 1958 01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:28.439 I was in Ionia, so that's four years driving ninety miles. 1959 01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:31.720 Then I went to Jackson, so that was another three 1960 01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:34.840 years of driving fifty five miles. Now I'm in Mount Morris, 1961 01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:37.199 which is just outside the Clio Speedway, Like I'm like 1962 01:27:37.880 --> 01:27:39.680 a mile, like less than a mile away from like 1963 01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:43.720 the old High Times cups. That's fifty miles away. So 1964 01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:47.119 like I've been driving since twenty fourteen. Like if I 1965 01:27:47.119 --> 01:27:50.199 could have a grow in my own town, I'd be like, yeah, 1966 01:27:50.640 --> 01:27:51.159 it right here. 1967 01:27:51.279 --> 01:27:53.640 It's hilarious because honestly, I bet you every grower can 1968 01:27:53.720 --> 01:27:55.119 relate to I think so too. 1969 01:27:55.319 --> 01:27:58.960 Yeah, there's like driving fifty miles there back talking about. 1970 01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:00.800 Some of the things that harden you driving all that. 1971 01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:07.720 Cold too, it didn't matter, like the power out. You're 1972 01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:09.000 fucking going to work. 1973 01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:11.840 Dude, Like that's where I was off. I can't I 1974 01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:14.640 remember Thanksgiving that I looked at my cameras, my plans 1975 01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:16.560 were drew because my irrigation didn't go off, and I 1976 01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:19.000 was like, motherfucker is Thanksgiving and I had to drive 1977 01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:20.079 all the way to fucking I on you. 1978 01:28:20.199 --> 01:28:24.159 I'm like, oh damn man, Like that was fucking. 1979 01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:28.039 Like it's the grind road. But again, they hardened me, 1980 01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:29.439 got me to where I am today, and like I 1981 01:28:29.479 --> 01:28:32.520 wouldn't be as good of a cultivator I am as 1982 01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:34.479 I am today without those fucking hard times. 1983 01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:38.439 No, absolutely, those built you man. We could be talking 1984 01:28:38.479 --> 01:28:41.199 all day, man. I appreciate it. We we we definitely. 1985 01:28:41.279 --> 01:28:45.119 We did a ninety minute episode. Yeah, we definitely. Well, 1986 01:28:45.239 --> 01:28:47.199 we'll bring you back on later in the year. This 1987 01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:47.840 is a good check. 1988 01:28:48.199 --> 01:28:50.319 I know he was faded, like, you're very knowledgeable to 1989 01:28:50.359 --> 01:28:53.520 feel very nogealle growing up, very fun. I'm excited for 1990 01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:58.199 your upcoming advent in January. So thank you Michigan uh 1991 01:28:58.560 --> 01:28:59.800 Presents or it's. 1992 01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:03.199 Michigan man Man's Mission Man Present the. 1993 01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:06.720 Crowd smoke because that's crazy. Yeah, I always been there 1994 01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:07.159 for drinks. 1995 01:29:07.239 --> 01:29:11.159 Yeah yeah, it's fun. Yeah, it'sna be really fun. So 1996 01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:11.960 I appreciate you guys. 1997 01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:14.159 Thanks to them out Instagram. Where can they find you? 1998 01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:16.640 Michigan mat too, because you know Instagram is the fucking 1999 01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:21.000 Devil and Ticks ship. But I appreciate all the followers. 2000 01:29:21.039 --> 01:29:23.520 I appreciate everybody that gives all the support on Instagram. 2001 01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:26.520 That's like it's still a driving force of the industry, 2002 01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:28.960 and that's another one of those necessary evils. 2003 01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:32.520 Oh yeah, and that's that's why those those restrictions got 2004 01:29:32.640 --> 01:29:35.079 a lifetime because it's silly, because it's such a driving 2005 01:29:35.159 --> 01:29:37.319 industry and safe banking. We talk about these things all 2006 01:29:37.319 --> 01:29:38.800 the time because they don't make sense. You're making it 2007 01:29:39.199 --> 01:29:41.880 so hard for these businesses just to survive, so you forced. 2008 01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:44.359 I think it almost adds to that cutthroating earlier. 2009 01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:45.000 But like it is. 2010 01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:47.239 Sorry, I know we're rving up with two things. I 2011 01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:49.199 just talked to my daughter and today about banking and 2012 01:29:49.399 --> 01:29:51.720 like why we have to go to New Hudson from 2013 01:29:51.720 --> 01:29:53.760 Brighton to go to the bank. She's like, why can't 2014 01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:56.560 you just go to Chase Here we go, So this 2015 01:29:56.680 --> 01:29:58.560 is why. So do you understand the difference between federal 2016 01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:01.640 law and state I really have this conversation today. 2017 01:30:02.439 --> 01:30:03.960 It's such a and this is on the things people 2018 01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:06.319 don't understand, like oh, it's legal, Like okay, it is. 2019 01:30:06.760 --> 01:30:09.520 Ish, Like there's still a lot going on and there's 2020 01:30:09.520 --> 01:30:11.560 still a lot of things that we just need to 2021 01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:13.319 figure out. And I think that's why I said I 2022 01:30:13.560 --> 01:30:15.600 like events like it was because they keep the future 2023 01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:16.520 and the evolution going. 2024 01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:19.800 Absolutely got to keep the innovation going. Yeah, it's good, 2025 01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:22.399 not working man, no doubt. Appreciate you, Oh yeah, so, 2026 01:30:22.479 --> 01:30:24.760 oh yeah, I appreciate you. Thank you, Michigan man. 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