Speaker 1: Hey, your body, Welcome back to Relationships is a bitch.
Speaker 1: This is episode twenty eight. Two eight. That's a good number.
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Speaker 1: think is going to be a great test of both
Speaker 1: you and Arena AI, because there's a new trend emerging
Speaker 1: which I missed this and I don't know if either
Speaker 1: of you two have picked it up, but a large
Speaker 1: number of people, this is really led by men apparently,
Speaker 1: are now entering marital contracts. They are rather than doing
Speaker 1: the formal ceremony, the traditional wedding, they are signing agreements
Speaker 1: with each other for a limited number of years, two
Speaker 1: year deals, four year deals, like it's a NFL contract
Speaker 1: or even a business contract and employment agreement. And the
Speaker 1: way that it works is the again, whatever the term is,
Speaker 1: two years, four years, and you agree on what each
Speaker 1: is going to contribute into the marriage contract over that period,
Speaker 1: and at the end there's a renewal option. If you
Speaker 1: choose to renew, you can remain in a marrial contract
Speaker 1: for another period of years, or if either party opts to,
Speaker 1: they can opt out, and that opt out is a
Speaker 1: you split whatever you've you've put together there or during
Speaker 1: that period of time, and each walks away on their
Speaker 1: own and there's no lawyers to deal with, there's no
Speaker 1: divorce corp to deal with, there's no anything else. That
Speaker 1: is the new way it is being done no agent required,
Speaker 1: which is which is a better deal than the NFL
Speaker 1: guys have. But yeah, so what do you what do
Speaker 1: your first impressions about marital contracts? Wow, Arena's speechless, Arena's
Speaker 1: like holding Mike.
Speaker 3: It's a mystery. So two weeks ago, I'm talking to
Speaker 3: my mom, you know, like my mom she just lost
Speaker 3: her husband and she was deeply in love and everything
Speaker 3: was wonderful. I'm talking to my mom who was twice
Speaker 3: very happily married woman with no issues, and she tells
Speaker 3: me out unaware, as a joke. She said, why people
Speaker 3: don't have something like a contract you're happy for three
Speaker 3: years or you like it, you keep going, like, why
Speaker 3: they make it so complicated, Why people exhaust themselves, Why
Speaker 3: people are living for covering the loans or raising up
Speaker 3: the kids, or you know, put themselves in prison. People
Speaker 3: have to together until they are happy together, no matter what,
Speaker 3: and then you can. And it was a joke. It
Speaker 3: was out of nowhere to women's discussion because we are
Speaker 3: kind of best friends. But it's here, and now you
Speaker 3: pronounce it that it was formed and shaped in the
Speaker 3: real deal. And I have a question. Let's say you understood.
Speaker 3: Next day or within a week. Okay, I did mistake.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do it for three or four years.
Speaker 3: What do you do after you just break it up?
Speaker 3: You like, break the deal?
Speaker 1: Well, so I suppose it depends on what you've written
Speaker 1: into the contract. But normally, if you agree that a
Speaker 1: contract is for a certain period of time, yeah, there,
Speaker 1: you don't any any If both parties agree mutually to
Speaker 1: uh to tear up a contract, you can just tear
Speaker 1: up a contract. So if if one person is that
Speaker 1: miserable after a week, the other party will probably be
Speaker 1: amenable to tear up the contract. But it depends on
Speaker 1: how you've how you've written it. I suppose it could
Speaker 1: be written in such a way that somebody who's unhappy
Speaker 1: after six months, too bad. You know, if the other
Speaker 1: person wants to enforce the agreement, you signed for three
Speaker 1: years and so you know you can't go to another
Speaker 1: team because you're signed with me for the next three years.
Speaker 1: So I can see how bothered AJ is.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. Well. I understand that marriages, you know,
Speaker 2: splinter into different positions and there's always problems with marriages,
Speaker 2: But if you introduce business into a marriage early, it
Speaker 2: kind of takes away for the romance and that whole
Speaker 2: magnificent feeling of meeting somebody and falling in love and
Speaker 2: deciding to spend the rest of your lives together. However,
Speaker 2: you know what, there's a lot of people who are
Speaker 2: married who aren't happy for years, And maybe this would
Speaker 2: not be the worst because maybe you need to introduce it, well,
Speaker 2: maybe there is to be incentives introduced or something. If
Speaker 2: it's a contract, then maybe we need to make it
Speaker 2: more of a complete contract, because very often one of
Speaker 2: the two people start to not act like the way
Speaker 2: they said they'd act. They're not exactly following the vows.
Speaker 2: So I hate business mixed with love. But I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe it's not that bad.
Speaker 3: It's it's already happened. It's already happened before when people
Speaker 3: started to sign different type of contracts. So it's already happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, it's a step beyond what a
Speaker 1: prenup does. Right. So, but if you at least my
Speaker 1: experience is when there are couples that get divorced and
Speaker 1: remain good friends and put the kids first and and
Speaker 1: don't have their it's but more times than not, the
Speaker 1: war that goes on after they've separated. Getting from separation
Speaker 1: to divorce is a bloody war that costs thousands of
Speaker 1: lives and you know, millions of dollars and tons of pain,
Speaker 1: and the kids go through hell and it just it's
Speaker 1: it's all. So if you actually could settle all of
Speaker 1: those things upfront in an agreement, in the event you
Speaker 1: split up, all that stuff was already determined and there's
Speaker 1: nothing to argue about or fight about because no one
Speaker 1: has a legal ground to stand on to argue about
Speaker 1: it or fight about it, well, then that actually I
Speaker 1: could see where that might help because it will eliminate
Speaker 1: the potential of all of that craziness that you know
Speaker 1: during that that period between separation and divorce.
Speaker 2: I can agree with that. It's it's it's not as romantic,
Speaker 2: but I can agree with that.
Speaker 3: I can know, Yeah, it would be useful probably for
Speaker 3: people who are over relax in their marriages and they say,
Speaker 3: you know, like I've seen some girls like, ah, what
Speaker 3: are you going to do? You know, she's not cooking
Speaker 3: for him, she's not pleasing him in bed, she doesn't
Speaker 3: care about him much. But what he can do like
Speaker 3: the words me forget about this you have to give me,
Speaker 3: has to give me fifty percent, and we have kids.
Speaker 3: He will never do that, so they don't care. So
Speaker 3: this is probably going to work out very well because
Speaker 3: they will be kind of you know, oh, oh, probably
Speaker 3: I have to cook, I have to do something for
Speaker 3: my husband because to you know, because maybe he'll change
Speaker 3: me for somebody else. But I think the whole idea,
Speaker 3: the whole beauty of marriage, because initially people started to
Speaker 3: get married traditionally because they had to make sex, so
Speaker 3: they understood to make it legally traditionally, they had to
Speaker 3: marry somebody to pick up one person to do this
Speaker 3: through all your life. After people started to cheat, to
Speaker 3: betray and to have open relationship, open marriages and different
Speaker 3: aps of relationships having at the same moment, and I
Speaker 3: think that maybe men and women started to feel kind
Speaker 3: of unprotected or unappreciated from both sides. And I don't know,
Speaker 3: because the whole idea, the whole beauty of marriage, because
Speaker 3: why you're crying when you see somebody is marrying it
Speaker 3: looks like it's forever signed, you know, like you choose
Speaker 3: a partner for life, no matter what ups and downs. Diseases, crisises,
Speaker 3: I'm here there for you from both sides, of course.
Speaker 3: And you know, when two families, two traditions are united,
Speaker 3: and it's so nice and beautiful and something new is born.
Speaker 3: So I think this idea, this beauty, and this concept
Speaker 3: is sign And next step is probably why would you
Speaker 3: get married at all? Because, like, let's say, I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe for papers, maybe for I don't know, for some
Speaker 3: anything else, to pay taxes, together, to do economy, because
Speaker 3: if you love each other, you don't need any pay
Speaker 3: you know. Like, so next step is like, let's be free.
Speaker 3: People are liberating themselves, right, But.
Speaker 1: You know, I could see that a lot of people
Speaker 1: make the first decision of hey, let's move in together,
Speaker 1: let's live together for a while, and let's see how
Speaker 1: we feel about things. And that's a very vulnerable sort
Speaker 1: of position for I guess, either of them. But to
Speaker 1: me it seems like especially the woman coming in coming
Speaker 1: into it. And so maybe at that stage, instead of
Speaker 1: the hey we'll move in together for a while, we'll
Speaker 1: enter an agreement. Because you can always get married. There's
Speaker 1: nothing if you entered one of these agreements, there's nothing
Speaker 1: saying you can't get married. You might come to the
Speaker 1: end of your first agreement that was two years and
Speaker 1: say we don't need to renew the agreement. We're going
Speaker 1: to go get married. Yeah know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: don't know it. I've often heard heard the the employment
Speaker 1: relationship used metaphorically against a marriage. You know, we've been
Speaker 1: together for fifteen years. Would you walk out on your
Speaker 1: wife after fifteen You know that kind of stuff, employee
Speaker 1: to to to whoever their senior person is in a company,
Speaker 1: and kind of you know the same thing.
Speaker 3: Mike, Well, this idea was born in the United States.
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, I guess we shall see what happens with it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yes, you know, I see, at least here
Speaker 3: where we're based, it looks like it's a very traditional area.
Speaker 3: People old, family oriented, having kids, grandkids together. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: a little bit said to hear. But it's all right.
Speaker 2: Everything changed roman marriage.
Speaker 3: You have a lot of opportunities. That's my girlfriend, that's
Speaker 3: my lover, that's my companion, that's my soulmate, that's my roommate.
Speaker 3: That's my wife. That's my legal wife. That's my love
Speaker 3: of my life. That's my prenup wife, that's my married wife.
Speaker 3: See that's it.
Speaker 1: You're that's the girl I have a contract with. But
Speaker 1: that's not romantic.
Speaker 3: That's that's my wife. That's my contract seven years.
Speaker 1: That's my next wife. Well, speaking of contracts, there's a
Speaker 1: an athlete who just entered the NFL Draft expecting to
Speaker 1: sign a big fat contract because he was going to
Speaker 1: be a first round draft choice and it didn't quite
Speaker 1: go that way for Loor Sanders and probably the weirdest
Speaker 1: draft I mean there there have been players in the
Speaker 1: coming out of college. John Manziel comes to mind who
Speaker 1: was a great college player but had all of these
Speaker 1: warning signs of being a huge partier, who you know,
Speaker 1: didn't study the didn't know the playbook the way you
Speaker 1: should know the playbook, wasn't as dedicated as he needed
Speaker 1: to be. And we watched despite winning the Heisman Trophy,
Speaker 1: we watched him go all the way down to twenty
Speaker 1: something I think it was twenty two maybe, And ironically
Speaker 1: this has happened with the Cleveland Browns a number of times,
Speaker 1: once with Manziel and then another time with who was
Speaker 1: the other.
Speaker 2: Baker Yes, yes, yes, yes, Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield that I don't know how far down he went,
Speaker 1: but pretty far down it happened to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: Having to Tom Brady for God's sake.
Speaker 1: Well, but Brady wasn't touted the way that these guys
Speaker 1: were touted coming out. Nobody expected Brady to be a
Speaker 1: big draft tot because nobody expected him to even make
Speaker 1: the NFL. But these guys were all supposed to be
Speaker 1: first or second quarterback taken, going to go in the
Speaker 1: top five picks, going to go maybe in the top
Speaker 1: ten picks. And so this guy went from projected, I
Speaker 1: think on mel Kiper's board, the ESPN loudmouth about the draft.
Speaker 1: He was the number five player, the number five power
Speaker 1: ranking of a player, and he went one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty fourth. He was the one hundred and forty fourth player.
Speaker 1: So he went in the fifth round instead of the first,
Speaker 1: and this turned into a circus. This guy had given
Speaker 1: had bought a burner phone, probably his father's suggestion. His
Speaker 1: father's probably the all time best quarterback in the NFL,
Speaker 1: great punt returner, great receiver, also played Major League baseball.
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders is a legendary athlete and his dad, who
Speaker 1: also was his coach in college. But the so he
Speaker 1: his father probably recommended this to him, get a burner
Speaker 1: phone and use that exclusively for your conversations with teams,
Speaker 1: so that you give out your number to personnel on
Speaker 1: these teams that are thinking about drafting you. And in
Speaker 1: this way, you know, if that phone rings, it's somebody
Speaker 1: from Giants or the Atlanta Falcons or whatever. Well somehow,
Speaker 1: not really, somehow, it's we know how a son of
Speaker 1: a coach in the Atlanta Falcons front office while he's
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator of the Atlanta Falcons, was able to
Speaker 1: find that number on a iPad, an iPad that was
Speaker 1: his dad's iPad. So he sees the number for shad
Speaker 1: Or Sanders, and instantly a prank comes to mind.
Speaker 4: And uh and so, well, I think it's pretty funny.
Speaker 4: It's funny. Guy's heart shank. I mean, that's just oh god.
Speaker 1: Well, so the kid calls should Or Sanders up and
Speaker 1: claims that he is the general manager of the New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints when he calls gy Mickey Lewis, so he's
Speaker 1: he's telling Sanders he's going to be the Saints next pick.
Speaker 1: Except it's not the Saints calling, it's this kid from
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons who has stolen the phone number. Who's
Speaker 1: just calling and he's just completely fucking Withers. So Yes,
Speaker 1: under the circumstances of what he had been through and
Speaker 1: everything else, it was a pretty cruel Planrank, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many players have been taken at
Speaker 1: that time he did it. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much crueler it ended up being than the
Speaker 1: kid perceived it was going to be, uh when he
Speaker 1: did it. But but anyway, there's there's that, and then
Speaker 1: the Browns end up doing the stupid thing with the
Speaker 1: with the dog bone on a screen.
Speaker 2: Oh god, let's talk about that. What that whoever that
Speaker 2: guy is, who's working graphics, he's gotta be fired.
Speaker 3: What was the reason of doing that?
Speaker 1: Because all you could see on the screen was the
Speaker 1: bottom of the dog bone that looked like a scrotum
Speaker 1: that was bouncing up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the kid a message behind it.
Speaker 2: I don't know they got they got tan, I don't know.
Speaker 1: There was no hidden message. It's it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: the logo. They call it the dog Pound in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: It's a big thing where their fans come dressed as
Speaker 1: dogs and they have bones and everything. So they have
Speaker 1: this logo for the dog pound with his bone, and
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be behind the stage, and but all
Speaker 1: that's showing up on the screen is the bottom of
Speaker 1: the bone that looks looks.
Speaker 2: Like screw them look good. It looked like you would
Speaker 2: dipping your testicles in cold water. It was just such
Speaker 2: a for a man. It was obvious those are balls.
Speaker 2: But this whole look the draft thing got so out
Speaker 2: of hand because a lot of a lot of folks
Speaker 2: in the NFL don't didn't want Shador Sanders because of
Speaker 2: what he's going to bring to their organization. The thing
Speaker 2: this guy did that messed him up was the fact
Speaker 2: that he was bold enough to say that I'm going
Speaker 2: to change the culture in that locker room. I'm going
Speaker 2: to change the culture of the National Football League. Listen,
Speaker 2: I don't want to make this a racial thing, but
Speaker 2: most of the owners are white, very wealthy, white man.
Speaker 2: They don't want to hear this young, upstart black kid
Speaker 2: tell them that I'm going to change your league. And
Speaker 2: the theory is that a lot of these guys told
Speaker 2: team owners, we don't want this, we don't want we
Speaker 2: don't need this kid. Don't let them take over the draft.
Speaker 2: Let's avoid embarrassment. So I agree with I agree with
Speaker 2: what they did not picking him, I agree with it.
Speaker 2: You need to be humbled.
Speaker 1: Well, do you think there was a coordinated.
Speaker 2: Element, Yes, I do, really, yeah, I think the I
Speaker 2: think management and owners and coaches all new look at
Speaker 2: we don't need this kind of stuff in the locker room.
Speaker 2: We don't need any upstart kid who's never won in
Speaker 2: the NFL. He did find in college, but he is
Speaker 2: a Sanders and that name, you know, precedes itself. They
Speaker 2: don't need the drama, they don't need the circus. So
Speaker 2: I understand why they didn't want that to happen within
Speaker 2: their organizations.
Speaker 1: Wow, well that would be collusion, that would be restract trade,
Speaker 1: that would be a major issue. I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think they did that.
Speaker 1: But he he went on a number of interviews and
Speaker 1: handled them terribly, and teams were semi public about at
Speaker 1: least leaking out that he had handled the interview poorly.
Speaker 1: If he saw he had ordered this ridiculous necklace, which
Speaker 1: it turns out paid. It costs more than than his
Speaker 1: signing bonus, This ridiculously huge gold dollar sign thing.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Ridiculously stupid. He's not his father his father. His father
Speaker 1: somehow made cocky cool because he could he could live
Speaker 1: up to whatever he was saying. When he got on
Speaker 1: the field. He could deliver, he could walk the talk,
Speaker 1: and so the you don't when you're coming into the league.
Speaker 1: You don't get to say it until you do it.
Speaker 1: It's not Saquon Barkley's personality to do stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But if he were doing stuff like that now, at
Speaker 1: least people would say, well, he's proven it on the
Speaker 1: field that he can do it, and so that's the
Speaker 1: way he wants to carry himself.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, it's every player in the NBA, it's every player,
Speaker 1: freaking player in the NBA is like this. But but
Speaker 1: no coach on set in an NFL. You still need
Speaker 1: discipline in the locker room. You still need respect from
Speaker 1: player to coach. You still need to be in command
Speaker 1: as a coach. It's not the inmates running the asylum.
Speaker 1: College football has turned into the inmates running the asylum
Speaker 1: because now they're free to go anywhere and have no
Speaker 1: penalty for switching teams and are getting paid, you know,
Speaker 1: more money than most of them. I saw that Quinn Ewers,
Speaker 1: the quarterback from Texas, that entered the draft, is going
Speaker 1: to make eight hundred thousand dollars in his first year
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He was slated to make about eight
Speaker 1: million in ANIL this year he stayed at Texas. We're
Speaker 1: seeing that in women's sports all over the place, where
Speaker 1: the WNBA is in such tenuous financial position that you,
Speaker 1: you know, average player first year salaries like seventy thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: and some of these schools, if you play at Yukon,
Speaker 1: you at South Carolina, you play at Notre Dame, a
Speaker 1: big women's basketball school, you're gonna make multiple hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars or more in n I L. Why
Speaker 1: the heck are you gonna come out? Well, the USC
Speaker 1: girl is a perfect example. I forget her name, but
Speaker 1: she she's leaving a couple of million dollars on the
Speaker 1: table coming out to play in the w NBA versus
Speaker 1: what she what she would have made, and so it's
Speaker 1: it's all fretting crazy. But when it comes to the NFL,
Speaker 1: you're a rookie, be humble. Look at cam Ward, who
Speaker 1: is the first pick in the draft. Another quarterback, another
Speaker 1: black quarterback. This is not a racial thing. It's it's
Speaker 1: uh it's behavior, it's.
Speaker 5: It's exactly a class that that that that's why if
Speaker 5: you watched a video of cam Ward and Shador Sanders,
Speaker 5: uh practicing together.
Speaker 2: Throwing the football, that was great. That was great, right,
Speaker 2: and and all you got to hear is cam Chadoor
Speaker 2: is all about what, you know, what we can do
Speaker 2: now that we're going to be pros. And his his
Speaker 2: idea to cam Ward was we got to make a
Speaker 2: video together. We've got to make a song together, a
Speaker 2: rap song. And cam Ward, good for him, said, uh uh,
Speaker 2: I'm a football player. I want people to think of
Speaker 2: me as an American football player. And Shadoor Sanders is
Speaker 2: all about the glitz and glamor and you know, let's
Speaker 2: make a rap song. And coaches don't want that. They
Speaker 2: don't need that shit. You know, even when Shack Shaquille
Speaker 2: O'Neal was doing that with the Lakers, and he was
Speaker 2: obviously his resume is phenomenal, but that didn't sit right.
Speaker 2: When a pro athlete wants to get a studio and
Speaker 2: make a rap, no, just be a be an athlete.
Speaker 2: Stop trying to make yourself the next you know, fascination
Speaker 2: with America. Just play the sport that you good at
Speaker 2: and those videos and even the way he spoke to
Speaker 2: quarterbacks after games in college, you know, just putting them down.
Speaker 2: Check my Instagram. Just it's a different year right now,
Speaker 2: and I don't think these mainly white owners want to
Speaker 2: deal with this kind of showboat stuff.
Speaker 1: Well look, I'm talking about the mostly white owner. I
Speaker 1: think it's any coach, and I don't care what his
Speaker 1: skin color is or her skin color. Nobody wants a
Speaker 1: prima donna in their locker room. And if they're likely
Speaker 1: to not be the starter, which he is, no matter
Speaker 1: where he would have gone, would have been unlikely to
Speaker 1: be the starter in his first year. Well, you'd never
Speaker 1: want the backup quarterback to be the focus of attention
Speaker 1: for the media, for fans, any of that. And so
Speaker 1: the guy is just a massive distraction, looking for a
Speaker 1: location to distract. And that blew up, blew up in
Speaker 1: his face. So look now it's all on him. Now
Speaker 1: he's now, he's with a team. No one cares where
Speaker 1: he was drafted or how much money he got. Uh
Speaker 1: he got paid. Now it's going to be what do
Speaker 1: you prove in training camp? Because he has a chance
Speaker 1: to start for that team. He definitely does.
Speaker 2: Of course there's there's that he's like, what is Hei
Speaker 2: the fourth or fifth quarterback on the Browns. He got Flaccau,
Speaker 2: which forget that. Uh no, but they've got Watson of course.
Speaker 1: Who's another problem, right, Yeah, hasn't been the same since
Speaker 1: his last you know, massage.
Speaker 6: So he's got an opportunity if he can, first of all,
Speaker 6: if he's good enough, and there are a lot of
Speaker 6: people who legitimately don't think he's good enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh but can he can he check his
Speaker 1: ego at the door now and and win coaches over
Speaker 1: and other players over on Cleveland and we'll see, And
Speaker 1: Cleveland took another quarterback, I know, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a really interesting dynamic to see what happens there.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, his father is just going
Speaker 2: to be whoever, whoever, wherever this kid goes. And now
Speaker 2: he's on Cleveland, but he's going to bounce around the league.
Speaker 2: Those teams are always going to have the great prime
Speaker 2: time Neon Dion Sanders over their shoulder, you know, always
Speaker 2: giving him advice, telling them the offensive scheme is wrong
Speaker 2: and my son needs to do this, and most coaches
Speaker 2: do not want that kind of ship in the huddle,
Speaker 2: in the locker room, on the team. You know, it's
Speaker 2: their team to guy, they don't need a player's father.
Speaker 2: It's like LaMelo Ball, the ball father who was just
Speaker 2: so outspoken about all his sons. It was a distraction,
Speaker 2: and Shador is a distraction right now for sure.
Speaker 3: No, you know, like you both know that I'm not
Speaker 3: a big fan of sports, just because I don't know,
Speaker 3: just because I'm new to the country, just because I'm
Speaker 3: not experienced. You I don't know so many names. But
Speaker 3: remember in my childhood because my parents supported the second
Speaker 3: League of football, Ukrainian football, and I remember, I think
Speaker 3: every coach is very responsible and passionate because it's like
Speaker 3: adopted kids. You dedicate your life and you don't know.
Speaker 3: There are some coaches who are dying on the field
Speaker 3: because they're so emotional, having heart attacks, you know, supporting
Speaker 3: their team members. So for them, I think it's a
Speaker 3: lot of pain when somebody is misbehaving because it's like
Speaker 3: your adopted child. As I said. And the other thing,
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's not about being black or white. It's
Speaker 3: more about representation or disrespect. I just had a conversation
Speaker 3: with a girl here a couple of days ago. I
Speaker 3: see that young generation misinterpreted the equality and freedom in
Speaker 3: the United States. It's great that everybody is the same,
Speaker 3: everybody has a right. This is the beauty of the
Speaker 3: United States. But people have forgotten what does it mean
Speaker 3: to have respect to the older generation to look up
Speaker 3: the coaches who made it. Maybe they are not wearing
Speaker 3: fensive stuff because they don't care everybody will recognize them
Speaker 3: in a simple TI shirt. They care about leaving something
Speaker 3: on this planet and being bringing the pride of the
Speaker 3: United States all over the world. That's what they care.
Speaker 3: So values changed and young kids they think, Okay, I
Speaker 3: have I don't know a lot of you know followers
Speaker 3: on Instagram that make me a start. Tomorrow, I don't know,
Speaker 3: something will happen to Instagram and it means their image
Speaker 3: real call. But people who are real assets and real
Speaker 3: pride of the United States, they will stay forever. They
Speaker 3: don't even need any extra pr because indeeds a show
Speaker 3: on their personality. So I think it's about disrespect. It's
Speaker 3: about losing the tradition and misunderstanding what does it mean
Speaker 3: to be equal to each other? Because there are people
Speaker 3: who dedicated their lives to sports or arts or maybe
Speaker 3: any other professional fields, and we always have to be
Speaker 3: respectful to their doings.
Speaker 1: And it's become very difficult, especially with these kids in
Speaker 1: college now with the new rules you have. You know,
Speaker 1: you have coaches, all kinds of coaches getting out of
Speaker 1: coaching because they can't deal with this dynamic of the
Speaker 1: player who comes for a year. It's all about them,
Speaker 1: and it's all about the Benjamins and not staying at
Speaker 1: a school and winning for that school.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I saw something the other day where out of the
Speaker 1: I guess the four star and five star quarterbacks coming
Speaker 1: out of high school in his year, Arch Manning is
Speaker 1: the only one who is not transferred schools. That's unbelievable
Speaker 1: that he's the.
Speaker 2: Only one who has a school.
Speaker 1: And and now he's I just saw yesterday he's the
Speaker 1: odds on favorite to win the Heisman Trophy next year.
Speaker 1: He's poor. Mean, I love the kid, but he's never
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's played something like nine college games
Speaker 1: coming in from when yours was heard, or games that
Speaker 1: were blowouts. It's I mean, he's certainly got the pedigree,
Speaker 1: but that's a lot of that's a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: being piled on him.
Speaker 2: So sure, sure, And.
Speaker 1: They're assuming he's going to come out next year in
Speaker 1: the draft.
Speaker 2: That's ear. I think that's early.
Speaker 1: I would be shocked if he does. Why would he
Speaker 1: not play two years of college ball? I think even
Speaker 1: if they knew he was going to be the first
Speaker 1: player in the in the draft, I think his family
Speaker 1: would want him to I don't know, but I think
Speaker 1: they would.
Speaker 2: Want him another year. So of course.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we talked about marriage contracts and the two year
Speaker 1: and the four year deal. But this hit me the
Speaker 1: other day because you don't see many sort of Hollywood
Speaker 1: or high profile marriages that go as long as the
Speaker 1: one that we're about to talk about, or as happily
Speaker 1: as the one we're about to talk about. And I
Speaker 1: was surprised at how long it has been. And so
Speaker 1: Ringo starhar and Barbara bah Wow celebrated, well it is today,
Speaker 1: it's went two days ago. So Sunday they celebrated their
Speaker 1: forty fourth wedding anniversary. Wow, forty four years. Talk about
Speaker 1: making you feel old.
Speaker 2: I know I felt so old when.
Speaker 1: I looked at that, especially if you realize that John
Speaker 1: Lennon was already dead when they got married. Wasn't wasn't
Speaker 1: at the wedding.
Speaker 2: Now sad's crazy to beat all. Well, I got a
Speaker 2: lot to say about Ringo. I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: time to say it right now, but maybe I could
Speaker 2: say it after say, well, you know, the Beatles to
Speaker 2: me the greatest group of all time. And there's I
Speaker 2: don't know many groups that had three people in the
Speaker 2: band that could all and all were phenomenal lead singers.
Speaker 2: Ringo not so much, but a good drummer that use
Speaker 2: number one records. Let me tell you something with people
Speaker 2: don't And I wrote this down because I want to
Speaker 2: let you know what I know. When the Beatles broke up,
Speaker 2: Paul McCartney went to the group Wings. John Lennon did
Speaker 2: his thing, George Harrison did his thing, he made some
Speaker 2: beautiful songs, and ringled to his thing. If I were
Speaker 2: to tell you what Beatle had the most top ten
Speaker 2: hits after they split, nobody would think Ringo was the one.
Speaker 2: But he was, and he's not. He was never the
Speaker 2: lead singer. Paul McCartney did very well with Wings, of course,
Speaker 2: but Ringo Starr had eight top ten hits after the
Speaker 2: Beatles broke up Lennon and George Harrison only had six apiece.
Speaker 2: I would never have guessed that because he.
Speaker 1: And I know he had two number ones, but top
Speaker 1: tens to photograph and what was the other? I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, my sweet lord, but that was Harris.
Speaker 2: That's Harrison Ringo's top Ringos.
Speaker 1: It's not it don't come easy. Was a top ten,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't a number one. No oh oh oh
Speaker 1: top and I forget it's your sixteen.
Speaker 2: You're sixteen, by the way your mind the pedaphal song.
Speaker 1: Yes I give I mean think back that that was
Speaker 1: the number one song in the country and listen to
Speaker 1: the lyrics.
Speaker 2: Well, imagine imagined me who I've said the story on
Speaker 2: the show. My uncle worked for the Ed Sullivans, know
Speaker 2: in the sixties and the Beatles farming there, and the
Speaker 2: night they performed it was like a huge thing in America.
Speaker 2: And there was a shot sheet which you give to
Speaker 2: the cameraman and the crew which says every beat of
Speaker 2: the show, when the commercials start with guests come on,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. My uncle was sadly enough to have
Speaker 2: every Beatles sign that page, and it was given to
Speaker 2: me it later got stolen in a home robbery, which
Speaker 2: makes me sick, makes me, well, they just emptied my
Speaker 2: jewelry box and that was in there. They had probably
Speaker 2: got thrown out. It would have been worth hundreds of
Speaker 2: thousands of dollars, especially when Ringo and Paul die. But
Speaker 2: they were so big. I lost my train of thought
Speaker 2: about oh shit, chit, chit about the Beatles and you
Speaker 2: can talk. I'll catch I'll figure it out. I lost it.
Speaker 3: They had Team Spence and they, you know, succeeded in
Speaker 3: their own ways.
Speaker 1: It is amazing that that all four I think had
Speaker 1: number one records or at least, and that doesn't that
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. And also all four being from Liverpool, you
Speaker 1: don't see that kind of talent come out of one place.
Speaker 1: In the scene. In the scene. But speaking of talent, Barbara.
Speaker 2: Bak oh, yeah, so if.
Speaker 1: I'm remembering right, I know they met during the filming
Speaker 1: of Caveman the movie. But I don't think there's any line.
Speaker 1: There are any lines in that movie, right, there's no spell.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine it. No, did you ever see it
Speaker 2: one hundred years ago? But no, there's no Oh I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I recall what I was gonna say was, I'm a
Speaker 2: little boy. I used to play pastic guitar for my
Speaker 2: grandmother and sing I want to hold your hand. So
Speaker 2: the Beatles, like many of us, was the music of
Speaker 2: our youth. And many years later, I go to alcoholics anonymous.
Speaker 2: I know it's supposed to be anonymous, but and Ringo
Speaker 2: Star is there, and I couldn't believe I was a
Speaker 2: little boy and he was that drummer with the haircut,
Speaker 2: and suddenly we're in the same room for the same
Speaker 2: thing that blew my mind. Blew my mind. But Ringo
Speaker 2: is a very cool dude. Barbara Bach was gorgeous. Uh
Speaker 2: did I see that movie? Probably not? Probably not, But
Speaker 2: those two have gone on to have an incredible life.
Speaker 1: Well if you get a chance, because I'm telling you
Speaker 1: I liked Caveman, and I don't think there are any
Speaker 1: lines in the in the movie, but Barbara blah top
Speaker 1: three all time Bond girls, Yeah, maybe number one, definitely
Speaker 1: top three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was gorgeous, and.
Speaker 1: You know they met on the on the on the
Speaker 1: set of cave Man, which I guess maybe you were
Speaker 1: allowed to speak on the set, you know, just run.
Speaker 1: She didn't have lines in the in the actual movie.
Speaker 1: But forty four years they they have they have made it,
Speaker 1: and they did some exclusive deal. You know how People
Speaker 1: magazine does those those exclusives. And after more than forty
Speaker 1: years of marriage, a couple recently told people that their
Speaker 1: long lasting love comes comes down to just a few
Speaker 1: simple things. I love the man, and that's it, Box
Speaker 1: said and started it. There's no escape. I think I
Speaker 1: love Barbara as much today as I did when we met,
Speaker 1: and I'm beyond blessed that she loves me and we're
Speaker 1: still together.
Speaker 2: That's so good. That's a woman's dream to hear her
Speaker 2: man say that.
Speaker 1: Ye. And at the age of thirty three, Ringo had
Speaker 1: a number one hit in the USA with the song
Speaker 1: Year sixteen. He also had a number another number one
Speaker 1: with Photograph which I said, and a top ten with
Speaker 1: it Don't Come Easy Good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you want.
Speaker 1: To feel really old?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ringo was born in nineteen forty.
Speaker 3: Wow, nineteen forty. It's my it's my mother in law.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's eighty four years old.
Speaker 2: Eighty four years old.
Speaker 1: Eighty four years old. It's Unbelia's she's six years younger,
Speaker 1: but eighty four. I mean, you know, a lot of these.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing how uh Jaggers and I mean
Speaker 1: Keith Richard, It's amazing how long some of these guys
Speaker 1: have lived, especially the way they lived their lives. I
Speaker 1: think the Beatles were healthier than than many of them
Speaker 1: they lived during their height of their fame. But kind
Speaker 1: of kind of amazing. So, you know, we thought, arena,
Speaker 1: since we got this beautiful couple and forty four years
Speaker 1: in that we'd see if the numbers confirm what we
Speaker 1: all know to be the case about about their happiness.
Speaker 1: What do you see the numbers?
Speaker 3: You know, guys, I think when you look at their picture,
Speaker 3: you see so much mutual attraction. And I've been talking
Speaker 3: about sexuality itself. I'm talking about the mutual desire to
Speaker 3: hold a hand or to be next to each other.
Speaker 3: It's so visible even through the picture. And I was
Speaker 3: kind of raised up thanks to my parents on abba
Speaker 3: songs and biddle songs that and you know, because in
Speaker 3: Soviet Union it was kind of you know, it was
Speaker 3: very cool when you're listening to something which is foreign.
Speaker 3: And I love their songs and battles the best of course.
Speaker 3: So what is interesting about this couple because they are
Speaker 3: live past numbers for both of them, it's one and one.
Speaker 3: So when you think about bond girl, who is through
Speaker 3: her doing and your biograph being supermodels, should be well centered,
Speaker 3: but she's extremely dedicated to her beloved one. So they
Speaker 3: both have number one, which is leadership, which is independence
Speaker 3: and kind of pioneering spirit. And they could easily go
Speaker 3: in different directions and succeed in life, but they never did.
Speaker 3: So they are lessons to learn balancing independence and to
Speaker 3: getness they and healing the ego being next to each other,
Speaker 3: because it's not easy when two strong personalities are living together,
Speaker 3: especially deeply in love with each other, and to evolve
Speaker 3: from self focused leaders into soul focused partners, which they
Speaker 3: did perfectly. He's very fast, he has two number seven masculine,
Speaker 3: proactive uh. And she's a person of family and tradition,
Speaker 3: very connected to the family roots and and and and
Speaker 3: to the fan and motherland. What did they meet? Their
Speaker 3: karma classon is to protect their own relationship from others.
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe it's I guess. Did he have
Speaker 3: a first marriage before?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yes, Because I'll speak about him later on.
Speaker 3: He has this potential of heaven to marriages. So about
Speaker 3: Ringo star sun is cancer which makes him sensitive familiary
Speaker 3: and it wounded Leo overly confident camera task and libra
Speaker 3: to work out his partnership in the most important way
Speaker 3: and to keep in a balance and venus in Gemini
Speaker 3: that can give him two marriages. My husband has the
Speaker 3: same thing. I am happy it's not for you, okay.
Speaker 3: So Mar's conjuction Pluto makes him very intense and huge
Speaker 3: will power, strong drive, fellas in pursuing goals, can be
Speaker 3: extremely passionate when deeply motivated as well. He has a
Speaker 3: balance between optimism and realism. Big dreams but serious discipline
Speaker 3: to make them happen. And it's interesting because when you
Speaker 3: look at his personality, he looks like a kind of
Speaker 3: cool guy, you know, maybe a little bit bad, but
Speaker 3: he is not. That's interesting with these sunglasses and they
Speaker 3: look very different, but they perfectly Madge, sharp mind, quick speech,
Speaker 3: very assertive communicator, can be argumentative or easily irritated mentally
Speaker 3: when you know with somebody likes, disagrees directly. Deep emotional
Speaker 3: intensity and powerful intuition, and he has a huge ability
Speaker 3: for deep feelings, big ideas and as well romantic idealist
Speaker 3: maybe that's what she captivated initially by with dreams of
Speaker 3: perfect love that probably he realized and as well risk
Speaker 3: of pollutionion and relationship or disappointment. I don't know what
Speaker 3: his love story before. Big hearted and very generous person,
Speaker 3: very emost again and the serious thinker, self critical and
Speaker 3: the very confident while communication about our bond girl and
Speaker 3: supermodel Burg Venice Inburg, very loyal adm her partner at
Speaker 3: mayas her partner. Her karmic task is in Taurus, which
Speaker 3: means to attract material abundance, but it looks like she
Speaker 3: did it her throughout a career as well. Superintense, well
Speaker 3: power against strong drive, feels the same like her husband again, disciplined,
Speaker 3: has a very quick speech and as well, like you know,
Speaker 3: she's very caring, very given, taking care of everybody, very
Speaker 3: confident and very dedicated finding the perfect balance between family
Speaker 3: and career. And can have a lot of emotional struggles
Speaker 3: as well, can overindulge or be too trusting, you know,
Speaker 3: when you're too trusting to each other, but that's what
Speaker 3: makes you vulnerable, feminine and you know, probably very feminine.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know, it's remarkable there together this long
Speaker 7: because there's a lot of information out there that the
Speaker 7: Beatles as a whole had substance abuse issues.
Speaker 2: Clearly they were open about that, but virtually all of
Speaker 2: them abused their wives, all of them. I mean John
Speaker 2: Lennon screamed in his son's ears so loudly that the
Speaker 2: kid damaged the kids. You're drum. Ringo Star and Barbara
Speaker 2: Buck were big drinkers. That's why they both went to AA.
Speaker 2: But before that there were instances where he would I
Speaker 2: mean beat her so badly trans route. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean there's actual quotes from him where he would wake
Speaker 2: up and thought he killed her. Horrible horrible nights of
Speaker 2: being in a drunken rage. But she was also that way.
Speaker 2: She would go back at him as well.
Speaker 1: And so we've been talking about forty four years of maritals.
Speaker 3: Well, they don't have they don't have aspects of griscidity.
Speaker 3: I usually speak about it. They don't have aspects of
Speaker 3: maybe that's influence of the alcohol, because I usually see
Speaker 3: it through.
Speaker 1: So I guess things got better the longer they say that.
Speaker 2: This is the late eighties, this is the mid eighties
Speaker 2: that Ringo and Barbara both realized we're drinking too much.
Speaker 2: And the fights were so bad, and Ringo and Barbara
Speaker 2: decided to get help. And that's why I mentioned seeing
Speaker 2: him at AA. He's still at it all these years later,
Speaker 2: so you know. But yeah, it was bad. It was
Speaker 2: bad for for them for a while when when Ringo
Speaker 2: was imbibing in the evil spirits. But yeah, they're okay,
Speaker 2: They're okay now.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: Surprised that they both they both changed their names. Neither
Speaker 1: one used their name their original names.
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He was born Richard Starkey.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Richard Starkey right.
Speaker 1: Uh. And she was born Barbara Goldbach. I didn't know
Speaker 1: she was in New York Jews.
Speaker 2: A Jewish chick. Yeah. Now, in New York Jews are
Speaker 2: not necessarily bond girls. But if you take that gold
Speaker 2: off your name, you could be a bond girl.
Speaker 1: Barbara say, she's the only New York jew bond girl.
Speaker 2: I think she has to be, has to be. Wow. Interesting. Yeah, well, look,
Speaker 2: I mean marriages, especially ones that ask you know, decades,
Speaker 2: that's the thing people go through, ship and if you
Speaker 2: stick together and figure out what we can do to
Speaker 2: get back on our feet, because we still love each other.
Speaker 2: But for them, but not every marriages roses and rainbows
Speaker 2: from day one. You know, you got to go through
Speaker 2: some shit sometimes.
Speaker 3: That's not going have happened with new contracts, that's true.
Speaker 1: Well, you guys know that. I am. Well, how do
Speaker 1: I say this for my wife's benefit? I'll say it
Speaker 1: this way. I've become a fan of the Housewives of
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. Right, It's sort of if we if my
Speaker 1: wife and I had a contract, it would be in
Speaker 1: the contract. Now, I have to watch that. I have
Speaker 1: to watch that, and I have to watch Orange County,
Speaker 1: and I have to I don't have to watch New
Speaker 1: York anymore. But she's watching this crazy Salt Lake City
Speaker 1: are like the craziest ones of all of them. I
Speaker 1: don't understand how that but but anyway, two of the
Speaker 1: long standing relationships on that show have the marriages are
Speaker 1: breaking up. The first with Kyle Richards, has been on
Speaker 1: the show the whole way, and well, there are others
Speaker 1: that broke up in the last few years, but the
Speaker 1: one that's breaking up now is is Dory and p
Speaker 1: Ku Kimsley is how you say their last name? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that was that was a big deal in this
Speaker 1: season that just went on and one of their cliffhangers
Speaker 1: sort of at the end of the season, and the
Speaker 1: those reunion episodes was whether whether they would work it
Speaker 1: out or not. And she just filed for divorce the
Speaker 1: other day.
Speaker 2: I saw, Yeah, it's not good, but you know what,
Speaker 2: I think it's good for First of all, I've always
Speaker 2: thought she's I would I'm never I would never be
Speaker 2: in a circle with those kind of people. But I
Speaker 2: always found her very sexy in this in the very classy.
Speaker 2: You know, these people are just no people I've ever met,
Speaker 2: but Derrick turns me on. I always think she's hot.
Speaker 2: The guy, her husband, I didn't like that relationship to
Speaker 2: begin with, So I'm happy that this is happening because
Speaker 2: I don't think he deserves her. I'm not saying she's
Speaker 2: easy to get along with. These women want what they
Speaker 2: want and they get what they want. And these men
Speaker 2: who are with them, God, they must have a never
Speaker 2: ending bank account. But what they give these women? But
Speaker 2: did you do you like did you like her husband? Mike?
Speaker 2: Do you like this guy? I don't.
Speaker 1: I liked him, Okay, I thought he was. He was
Speaker 1: funny at times. It wasn't on the Sho show that much.
Speaker 1: He was He's not home that much. He was. He
Speaker 1: was in London, back and forth between l A and
Speaker 1: London all of the time. But this was a pretty
Speaker 1: explosive season on that show. And in the in the
Speaker 1: the final reunion episode, Garcel, if you know who that is,
Speaker 1: I get she's gone. She walked off that and now
Speaker 1: she's she's leaving the show. And I swear, watching as
Speaker 1: a viewer, I believe the reason she's leaving the show
Speaker 1: and she walked off the way she did is a
Speaker 1: It was the first year of a new woman on
Speaker 1: the show who her nickname is Bose. I think her
Speaker 1: her real first name is like Bosama or something like that.
Speaker 1: And she's been a big wig worked at Netflix, and I.
Speaker 2: Can't I can't stand that woman.
Speaker 1: Dude, what do you mean you can't stand her? She's
Speaker 1: she's the only principled person on that show. I mean
Speaker 1: she Okay, Well, I'm telling you, if I forced to
Speaker 1: watch the show, I watch it all. She's real. I mean,
Speaker 1: she is real. She's not there's nothing phony about her.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, she's not glamorous, she's not like, she
Speaker 1: doesn't flaunt her wealth.
Speaker 2: She john seems to live pretty reasonably.
Speaker 1: She seems to have a very legitimate relationship with the
Speaker 1: guy that I believe she's gonna gonna be marrying. She's
Speaker 1: got a great relationship with her daughter, and uh, and
Speaker 1: what I saw on the end was was Garcelle getting
Speaker 1: in my opinion, unbelievably jealous at at how Bose had
Speaker 1: kind of taken over the show in a way and
Speaker 1: becomes sort of the wise person that there's looked up
Speaker 1: and respected. So I don't know, but that's that's my
Speaker 1: take on it. After watching this.
Speaker 2: I should say that I don't I don't like her.
Speaker 2: I did a segment on one of my shows about her.
Speaker 2: I just feel like she got to where she is
Speaker 2: and she was working at many big companies and tippy
Speaker 2: top level. I just look at her as a DEI loudmouth,
Speaker 2: typical black woman who's going to be loud and crass
Speaker 2: and take over the show with her brand, just like
Speaker 2: Nini leaks.
Speaker 1: Haven't you haven't watched the show? Guy? This is this
Speaker 1: is not that she is not that she has extremely
Speaker 1: high emotional intelligence, which you never ever see on any
Speaker 1: of these shows. None of these women have it.
Speaker 2: So she's she's putting them in their place. You're saying, but.
Speaker 1: In a respectful She's just she's playing. She's just playing
Speaker 1: the smartest person on that job.
Speaker 2: I just don't like the diversity. I just don't like
Speaker 2: the diversity aspect of her hiring people or businesses because
Speaker 2: of diversity. I'm just that word makes my ears burn.
Speaker 2: Anybody who's into that shit bothers me. So I'll watch it,
Speaker 2: but I don't like the DEI nonsense behind her. That
Speaker 2: that I don't like.
Speaker 1: Well, again, I call it how I see it. She's
Speaker 1: not a wouldn't be a DEI hire for any company.
Speaker 1: From my perspective, I think she's No, it's.
Speaker 2: Who she hires, not it's who she's hiring in our companies.
Speaker 2: I just again, it's just the whole thing about we
Speaker 2: can say Shador Sanders is the same thing. It's about
Speaker 2: people who keep promoting I'm gonna bring my brand, my brand,
Speaker 2: my brand. I don't like that kind of stuff. I
Speaker 2: just get.
Speaker 1: I didn't get a lot of that from from her.
Speaker 2: I know. I'll give her a watch.
Speaker 1: The watch the because you know how intense those reunion
Speaker 1: shows are. Just watch the watch the reunion shows, and
Speaker 1: watch how she handles herself during those reunion shows versus
Speaker 1: everybody else and U And I think you'll I think
Speaker 1: you'll agree with me after.
Speaker 3: After I like Mike, we already watched white lottos, all
Speaker 3: of them because of you. Which white lotos? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: know that shows different type of shows, not reality show.
Speaker 3: After you gave us a list of things to watch,
Speaker 3: the Watcher and whatever. So now I'm deerstand I have
Speaker 3: to start with Housewives to.
Speaker 1: You can't play. You can't put Kenny through that.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 3: We didn't handle Watcher.
Speaker 1: Either, watch that, don't don't don't. It takes a certain
Speaker 1: shame on me.
Speaker 3: I'm not interested.
Speaker 1: Maybe I would start it's good that it's good that
Speaker 1: you're not. I think for from my wife, it's a
Speaker 1: guilty pleasure and it makes her feel really good about
Speaker 1: our relationship when you see what a disaster.
Speaker 3: That's your unconscious way to get connected.
Speaker 1: To l A. Yeah, maybe she was into it when
Speaker 1: she lived there.
Speaker 3: You know, you're happy now in a different way, but
Speaker 3: you were happy there also.
Speaker 1: I was happy there for years until the whole place
Speaker 1: went absolutely crazy right in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.
Speaker 8: So yeah, and and wasn't wasn't the guy well he
Speaker 8: was he cheated on it, right, That's that was the
Speaker 8: big tag on this this this season, that that p
Speaker 8: K cheated.
Speaker 2: Cheating out with I guess so with Ryan's ex girlfriend,
Speaker 2: who was beautiful. I just thought Ryan should have stuck
Speaker 2: with that girl, the girl who's a great chef, SHANEA
Speaker 2: Wall right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know he was with her for a while.
Speaker 2: I know, I don't know why lock her up, but
Speaker 2: I think you know what, well, yeah that's true. That
Speaker 2: is true. P K at a restaurant with her, and
Speaker 2: he's supposed to be, you know, supposed to be sober.
Speaker 2: Uh make it out outside with that girl. It was
Speaker 2: all a big show. You want people to see you
Speaker 2: making out with that girl. Is he still sober? I
Speaker 2: don't think so. I don't think someveral people do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's theft up. That situation's theft up. You
Speaker 1: actually had that garcel challenge to read about whether the
Speaker 1: home invasion robbery that she she suffered was real or not.
Speaker 1: I mean, Garcella accused her of staging. I mean, I
Speaker 1: can't imagine yea a worse accusation you could. And there
Speaker 1: was no evidence of anything like that, at least none
Speaker 1: that she presented as being evidence of it. That was
Speaker 1: really weird. But to me, the person who's the most
Speaker 1: in since here on that whole show is the person
Speaker 1: the show is built around, which is Kyle. Where she
Speaker 1: runs off and has this whole lesbian thing with the
Speaker 1: country oh and then is so completely devastated and hurt
Speaker 1: that her husband goes and and look, maybe he was first.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Probably that was. Those rumors were around
Speaker 1: for years. But but you know, she won't own up
Speaker 1: to being gay or not or whenever she went on,
Speaker 1: up to being anything other than she's been forever, except
Speaker 1: that she's had this relationship with this country star and
Speaker 1: she and her husband are apart, and it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like he has any interest in getting back together. He
Speaker 1: seems to be having a ball. He's made a fortune
Speaker 1: on the back of the show and his relationship with
Speaker 1: the Hiltons, which obviously comes through the marriage. But anyway
Speaker 1: you have it, folks. Our summary of season four Team
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell season it was at the Housewives.
Speaker 2: Who knows Garcela used to be man I used to
Speaker 2: have such a crush on her. She was a beauty
Speaker 2: garcel Bevel. She was dating Jamie Fox back of the
Speaker 2: day she was. Everybody wanted a crack at Garcel. She was.
Speaker 1: Somebody said something that mentioned a bunch rob Lowe, and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, there were a number of good looking white
Speaker 1: guys in.
Speaker 2: Her Robert rob Lowe has been married for far too
Speaker 2: long to have been with Garcel, not on.
Speaker 1: They said it on the show.
Speaker 2: Really, Oh that means when she when they were very young. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 2: well she's she's I don't know.
Speaker 1: How old she is. She does not look good now.
Speaker 2: No, she's shutting heavy and she's not.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say she's an attractive one.
Speaker 2: No, it's the same thing what happened to Vivica Fox.
Speaker 2: Vivica Fox was a Fox back of the day. Her
Speaker 2: and Garcell both kind of went the same. It's like,
Speaker 2: oh ship, what happened? What happened to them?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I'm going to watch the I'll watch
Speaker 2: the reunion special. I'll find it because I I remember
Speaker 2: when I wrote it, when I when I spoke about Osama,
Speaker 2: I just she rubbed me the wrong way. But I'll
Speaker 2: give it a second look.
Speaker 1: Give her a shot. I think you'll change your mind.
Speaker 2: But Darreate, I think I love dar dar I think
Speaker 2: is hot hot stuff. And I'm normally not into those
Speaker 2: kind of you know, very fancy women. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: like me some dire for sure.
Speaker 1: She's available now, dude, So yeah, I'm going to take.
Speaker 2: Her out on my bank account. Yeah. Watch, I can't.
Speaker 2: I can buy an ice cream color and cold and night.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think she's deeper than that. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's so back.
Speaker 2: In the day, back in the day. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was some fun. There was some fun. I mean,
Speaker 2: Paul Abdul was set up with me. What Once you're
Speaker 2: in the thick of it in Hollywood and you're making money,
Speaker 2: you're out there and people see you, you'd be surprised
Speaker 2: what you get messages from people? Are you interested in dating?
Speaker 2: So and so? Very wild stuff happens in Hollywood, a
Speaker 2: lot of matchmaking.
Speaker 1: Is there a Hollywood dating app?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Raya r A y A. That's the big one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you got to have some credits. You can't just show
Speaker 2: up on there, ith But that's where they all meet
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 1: So somebody decides whether you you nrited mission into.
Speaker 2: I've never looked into it, but you got to be
Speaker 2: a big enough personality in Hollywood to get on Raya.
Speaker 2: They don't just accept anybody.
Speaker 1: Okay, I may create a Benza persona on there and
Speaker 1: see if I can see if I can get it.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure anyway, Thank you guys.
Speaker 1: Great hanging out you folks next week. Appreciate you listening.
Speaker 2: Take care of