Speaker 1: Uh uh, Hello everybody, and welcome to Rose Pricks. It's me.
Speaker 1: It's Stephanie Wilder Taylor. That is not my legal name,
Speaker 1: but that's the name I use. And I'm here with
Speaker 1: Cecily Don Nobler and that is her legal name. Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's my It would be weird if I chose Nobler
Speaker 2: just randomly with a K. I want the K to
Speaker 2: be silent. I want it to look like Nobler, but
Speaker 2: it's Nobler, and that's what I choose.
Speaker 1: My choice, my choice. That's what I'm doing. Hello, Toda,
Speaker 1: you did you did a little to da Toda. We're
Speaker 1: talking about reality television and the reason. I know a
Speaker 1: lot of times we like to like fuck around a
Speaker 1: little bit before we get into stuff, you know, spend
Speaker 1: a little time talking about life and just and living it.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I have so many stories. I
Speaker 1: just I've been collecting stuff that I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about this with Cecily. Oh I want
Speaker 1: to talk about that with Cecily. And so I want
Speaker 1: to have time for all of it. You know why
Speaker 1: the weekend is coming.
Speaker 2: Well, today is reality It's roundup, yeah, kind of started.
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't commit to days and themes and
Speaker 2: all that, but it kind of has fallen on Fridays,
Speaker 2: our little reality show roundups.
Speaker 3: Could be it any day, don't worry, it might surprise you.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, you don't. You don't really know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen with us because we don't know what's going.
Speaker 3: To happen with us know at all, not a single bit.
Speaker 1: No. But and it's not even like it's not even
Speaker 1: like there's there. These are so many like amazing like
Speaker 1: reality stories. It's just that stuff happens, stuff comes up
Speaker 1: to discuss, and I don't I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is like even needs to be said. But because we
Speaker 1: haven't been recapping a lot of shows doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: we don't have thoughts about like some of these people
Speaker 1: that we spent a lot of our time with.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I watched The Valley, which it looks
Speaker 2: like it is not being picked up.
Speaker 3: Oh that's what I heard, but I did.
Speaker 2: I just started watching episode one, didn't finish it of
Speaker 2: the Valley Reunion. And you know, I, like most people
Speaker 2: did not like the season. I sort of did for
Speaker 2: some reason. But it's it's like Britney is having a
Speaker 2: rough time she is having a rough Go prayers for Britney.
Speaker 3: I'm serious, she is in what way, Well.
Speaker 2: She's just every time Jacks comes up, I mean she's
Speaker 2: like in tear. I mean she can't cry because her
Speaker 2: face won't move.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You know she had like a Mommy makeover. Yes, I
Speaker 2: know all about that, and it's something. And then but
Speaker 2: she's got she's real like she really can't move her face.
Speaker 2: It's there's there's a lot happening. So but she gets
Speaker 2: her voice quivers, like she just feels like I think
Speaker 2: she feels like the other people who are supposed to
Speaker 2: be some of her friends in real life, not all,
Speaker 2: but that they didn't really have her back totally. They
Speaker 2: just kind of like what evs, you know how they
Speaker 2: get And so I think, you know, Jack's kind of
Speaker 2: tortured her. She did say she now has a narcissistic
Speaker 2: abuse coach. I'm like, girl, you found that person on
Speaker 2: TikTok and that is not going to be enough. It's
Speaker 2: probably Jack's in disguise. I mean, you're kind of manipulating you.
Speaker 2: It's not what was his fake name his fake name
Speaker 2: on Frank Drennan or something. But he also now has
Speaker 2: tons more. She was just saying he has like ten
Speaker 2: fake Reddit accounts. He has all these accounts, and he's
Speaker 2: been fucking with everybody, including Tom Schwartz, coming hard for
Speaker 2: and Tom Schwartz is like, man, I rode hard for
Speaker 2: that guy even when I shouldn't have. And now he's
Speaker 2: coming for my girlfriend saying she's an idiot and that
Speaker 2: she's too young. I'm not going to comment on that,
Speaker 2: but it's not nice. And it was, and Brittany's like, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's Jack's Jake's doing it.
Speaker 3: That's proof he took mass Barkle. He took mass Barkle.
Speaker 1: The one story that I didn't put up because you said, oh,
Speaker 1: I think we already talked about that, but I don't
Speaker 1: think we did. Is the story about Brittany about her
Speaker 1: pr person.
Speaker 3: Well, we talked about it. We definitely talked about it.
Speaker 2: Laurie K.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dating Jack's.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about it just amongst ourselves. I
Speaker 1: don't think we did it in a story.
Speaker 3: I swear we did. I'll prom I'll find I got
Speaker 3: a dig for it.
Speaker 2: But I swear I mean we did. I'm I'm swear
Speaker 2: and I can't swear a hun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope that some people come to and let
Speaker 1: us know if we talked about it, because I I
Speaker 1: know we didn't, but anyway, in case we did. Just
Speaker 1: to recap, h Lorie k Is was her public was
Speaker 1: the publicist for a lot of people. She was Joe
Speaker 1: Serena Charity, Hana Gee and a bunch of people. She
Speaker 1: wrapped a bunch of Bravo people, and she repped GX
Speaker 1: and Brittany And then it turned out that she's been
Speaker 1: dating Jax for a while now. The reason I even
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring it up right this second was because,
Speaker 1: like youw like, how do you You've had a front
Speaker 1: row seat to Jack's behavior and you're like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my man.
Speaker 3: He's super manipulative. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't do it, but I could see
Speaker 2: how it could happen. He's he's also like so he
Speaker 2: says talk so much shit about Brittany. He could convince
Speaker 2: anybody that she sucks or for whatever reason. And then
Speaker 2: this woman might be kind of lonely and she's like, well,
Speaker 2: I want where's my d I'm helping everybody else. You know,
Speaker 2: I could totally see it happening. He's if he's if
Speaker 2: he's trained his focus on you. I mean he got
Speaker 2: Stossy and Stossy back in the day season one vander
Speaker 2: pump which, by the way, tried to watch her show
Speaker 2: and not absolutely not so bad really Stossy, oh my god,
Speaker 2: and I like her, but like, if he could manipulate her,
Speaker 2: then he can manipulate anybody.
Speaker 3: Honestly, she's like a tough just tough cookie.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 2: He's good at it. He knows exactly how to play
Speaker 2: the victim. I could totally see it. He's full of shit.
Speaker 1: But even now, like even with everything that's gone on
Speaker 1: with him, like you think people are not aware of,
Speaker 1: like how manipulat manipulative he is.
Speaker 2: I think probably you could say it, but then you know,
Speaker 2: he decides and ill they're all crit and I'm just
Speaker 2: I need help. I need your help. You'll be the one,
Speaker 2: you know. And then he's he's a fixer upper. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: Brittany thinks he has mommy issues and.
Speaker 1: She's she's hanging in there. She's hanging in there, the
Speaker 1: Brittany Brittany. Yeah, but uh, and how's how's how's Danny Bookoh,
Speaker 1: he's the worst tad wife and outside how's he on the.
Speaker 2: And I know, I know we're not covering the valley,
Speaker 2: and I don't I don't want to focus because I
Speaker 2: don't even think that many people watch it in me,
Speaker 2: but I mean, he and me, they are the world.
Speaker 2: I can't stand them. And I told you I like
Speaker 2: Janet now and I and that I guarantee that's who
Speaker 2: you would hang out with if you watched it, and
Speaker 2: you were like, well, if I had to choose a
Speaker 2: couple of them, it would be Janet and La La over.
Speaker 3: The other ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just I mean, she was kind of tortured
Speaker 2: by Danny, who just pretends all the time that he
Speaker 2: wasn't drunk.
Speaker 3: They just keep showing like these flashbacks of him.
Speaker 2: He's incoherent the final episode, he's so drunk at this
Speaker 2: like their final party, that he's like stumbling Jesse, who
Speaker 2: also sucks and his piece of shit, he's always like,
Speaker 2: all right, all right, we've done you alone, but maybe
Speaker 2: we should get some water, bro, we should get some
Speaker 2: water and you bro. I mean, it's just everybody's covering
Speaker 2: for this piece of shit. I can't stand him. That's
Speaker 2: probably why people don't want to watch the valley. It's
Speaker 2: like so many people you don't want to hang out with,
Speaker 2: that's all I think that's the problem.
Speaker 1: Well that's how I felt though for a while about
Speaker 1: almost all the Real Housewives.
Speaker 3: Mmmm.
Speaker 1: And speaking of that, speaking of the Real Housewives, and
Speaker 1: this is not even like a news story, but I
Speaker 1: just I find it interesting. I find it to be
Speaker 1: some poetic justice. You know who's starting to like get
Speaker 1: hers is Shannon good Yeah. So there's this story that
Speaker 1: I found on reality TV that's called the case for
Speaker 1: Axing Shannon Badoor from Real Housewives keeps getting stronger. And
Speaker 1: I love this because you remember when we were covering
Speaker 1: the last time we were covering OC, I was apoplectic
Speaker 1: about Shannon Badour and I'm like, I don't understand how
Speaker 1: she's getting such a good edit, Like she seems to
Speaker 1: be a horrible alcoholic. She's just she's so unstable and
Speaker 1: crazy and angry, and everybody keeps going like, oh no,
Speaker 1: poor Shannon. They're treating her like a victim. You know
Speaker 1: how mad I was when she just constantly was talking
Speaker 1: about John Jansen and how much money he owed her, right,
Speaker 1: like you paid for him on your own. You can't
Speaker 1: do that and then write everything down and then go you, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have to pay you back an actual loan
Speaker 1: you made to me because I kept track of shit
Speaker 1: that I paid little Italy, shit I paid for and
Speaker 1: now you owe me. You can't do that. That's just
Speaker 1: not how it works. But anyway, this article says that
Speaker 1: Shannon has often been a lightning rod for Orange County.
Speaker 1: From numerous feuds, piping hot drama, questionable decisions, She's had
Speaker 1: fans going hard for her and against her over the
Speaker 1: last twelve years. However, apparently this latest season are you
Speaker 1: watching it?
Speaker 2: I have watched a couple episodes, and it's pretty unwatchable,
Speaker 2: to be honest. They all have these goofy They all
Speaker 2: think they're like, you know, what's her name, luci O Ball,
Speaker 2: you know, especially Shannon.
Speaker 3: Shannon, but all of them kind of do it like
Speaker 3: Gina and Emily.
Speaker 2: We're just so silly together and we just trip over
Speaker 2: each other and you're drunk.
Speaker 3: It's just a well genus, but like together, it's not good.
Speaker 1: Now and they're not Laverne and Shirley and they need Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was trying to think of. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: basically this story is about the fact that twelve years later,
Speaker 1: are the feuds, misunderstandings and fighting just too much. They're
Speaker 1: saying about Shannon producers have allegedly told her to cool it.
Speaker 1: Add that to the recent criticism against her, which appears
Speaker 1: to be reaching a fever pitch, and while she's denied
Speaker 1: several allegations, the question remains, is it time for her
Speaker 1: to step back? Okay? Then they're talking about how her
Speaker 1: latest feuds are becoming harder to dismiss. She seems to
Speaker 1: always be feuding with someone, and she often won't let
Speaker 1: things go, recalls old hurts, spirals, and makes things bigger
Speaker 1: than they need to be. And it says she's famously
Speaker 1: feuded with Kelly Dodd, Megan King, Katie Janella, Alexis Bollino,
Speaker 1: and she's gotten into it even with apparently in this
Speaker 1: season Vicki and they were like the last to a meet.
Speaker 3: She's fighting with Tamra.
Speaker 2: Vicky is the one that's like kind of trying to
Speaker 2: bridge them because she needs a paycheck or they're stupid weird.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess she's got into it with Vicky as well,
Speaker 1: though oh yes, I haven't gotten there.
Speaker 2: Yeahah, I mean I would I could see that, But
Speaker 2: Vicky sucks. They all said, that's the other problem except
Speaker 2: for Gina, like who would we want to?
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I think Gena sucks too, but okay,
Speaker 1: So she also right now has a tenuous friendship with
Speaker 1: Heather Debro. There seems to be growing friction between these
Speaker 1: two and much of it stems from trust issues. And
Speaker 1: that's where I just go, I can't stand her in
Speaker 1: her I don't trust you. I don't trust you. But yes,
Speaker 1: she's having her biggest feud is with Tamra. Okay, but
Speaker 1: let me just skip down in here. So it says
Speaker 1: after years of being the central figure and many personal
Speaker 1: blowouts on the show, fans have started pointing out that
Speaker 1: being consistently at the heart of conflicts may not be
Speaker 1: the flex that used to be. And then also from
Speaker 1: Rodrigo Reyes to real houses of Orange County Insiders, the
Speaker 1: criticism is piling up. So then they show this thing
Speaker 1: that says Andy Cohen is like, what's your reaction to
Speaker 1: Rodrigo from South something saying that you were very rude
Speaker 1: to him at Bravocon And then it shows it shows
Speaker 1: Shannon saying, oh, Rodrigo from Southern charm. Yeah, Southern charm, Yeah,
Speaker 1: says it has her going. Can I just say I
Speaker 1: apologize Rodrigo. I don't know who he is. Sophie was
Speaker 1: with me at all times at Bravocon and I said
Speaker 1: who is this and she said, Mom, we never saw him.
Speaker 1: I'm nice to everyone, but sorry Rodrigo. We're doing FanFest together. Okay,
Speaker 1: so apparently that happened. And then Tamra that was on
Speaker 1: Instagram and then Tamra wrote, uh, Roddy Ray is amazing
Speaker 1: hashtag iconic. And then all these people are like, I'm
Speaker 1: team Roddy Ray. We defend him at all costs. And
Speaker 1: then this other person goes, and what does it matter
Speaker 1: if you know him? You have to know him just
Speaker 1: to be nice. Shannon has been showing who she is
Speaker 1: for years. And then this person says, lol, it's been
Speaker 1: way too many people now that say she's rude to them.
Speaker 1: Everyone can't be lying. Thank you, thank you. She sucks Okay,
Speaker 1: and it says sadly for Shannon, the calls aren't just
Speaker 1: coming from inside the house while her co stars regularly
Speaker 1: call her out on her behavior. Okay, then remember they
Speaker 1: talk about the host of the show. The host of
Speaker 1: Love Hotel. Joel Kim Booster said that she was the
Speaker 1: most difficult person he's ever worked with. He called her
Speaker 1: a pathetic drunk who treated people she worked with as subhuman. Remember,
Speaker 1: she denied that and said she had no idea where
Speaker 1: that came from. And in the end he ended up
Speaker 1: apologizing and said his comments went too.
Speaker 2: Far, but he didn't take it back. Yes, he didn't,
Speaker 2: so you can get sued for that. So that's probably why. Yes,
Speaker 2: so he's like, oh shit, yeah, but I'm glad he
Speaker 2: said it, because sometimes if someone's that terrible, sometimes you
Speaker 2: have to say it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So now the fans have revisited that assessment in
Speaker 1: the wake of more people who have been calling her out.
Speaker 1: And then the thing came up about Rodrigo from Southern Charm,
Speaker 1: who said she was very rude, and then she denied it,
Speaker 1: and then it says but unlike Joel, Rodrigo doubled down.
Speaker 1: He commented on a meme about Shannon's Mariah Carey moment
Speaker 1: of saying she didn't know who he was by replying,
Speaker 1: guess you can't remember every nobody you make rude comments towards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then we talked about this before but there was
Speaker 1: the thing where Heather made a video Heather McDonald should
Speaker 1: say what I'm talking about, made a video about Shannon's
Speaker 1: clumsiness bit, and in the comments, remember Patrick McDonald, who's
Speaker 1: a producer, wrote it was wild seeing Shannon lose her
Speaker 1: shit and cuss out producers to suddenly falling into her
Speaker 1: performative shtick once the cameras began to roll.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: It's so like inauthentic and just like they're not Housewives
Speaker 2: of Fun. I don't know with the fun of it,
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure. I mean, I still miss New York.
Speaker 2: That was really like old school OGI before they just
Speaker 2: went off the rails. There was a lot of problems
Speaker 2: with it, but don't you miss when like Bethany and
Speaker 2: Carol were on there.
Speaker 3: I miss Carol.
Speaker 1: I miss Carol too well. You know, I loved the
Speaker 1: whole book thing with the ghost, the whole ghost writing
Speaker 1: story because I was I was a writer at the time,
Speaker 1: still i am, but you know I was writing books
Speaker 1: at the time, so I was like, yes, this is
Speaker 1: a storyline I can get into.
Speaker 2: But then I love so and I loved her because
Speaker 2: she was like a voice of reason and she wasn't perfect,
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I.
Speaker 3: Love I love the old school. You know, they're doing
Speaker 3: a new what you McCall where they go to the
Speaker 3: island gather people for an ultimate girl girl trip.
Speaker 1: Which I heard that, Uh, there's a huge Shannon on
Speaker 1: that one. And I heard there's a huge fight with
Speaker 1: Shannon and Tamra. I mean, so okay. So the question
Speaker 1: is was it filmed? This is such a dumb question.
Speaker 1: Probably was that filmed after they filmed the OC season.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think so, but I don't.
Speaker 3: Even like them.
Speaker 2: Why is Tamar even there? I'm so sick of Tamra.
Speaker 2: I don't want any OC people at that thing. I
Speaker 2: went to New York.
Speaker 3: Remember they didn't when it was just New York. Yes,
Speaker 3: that was good. I rewatched it.
Speaker 2: They put fucking Kelly ben Simone on there, and they
Speaker 2: put her up against I like, for some reason just
Speaker 2: started watching that again. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is this is the TV. This is why we watched,
Speaker 2: this is it? And it was Remember how Kelly just
Speaker 2: kept yelling at everyone. She was like, this is you
Speaker 2: need to rewalk in the room. No one walks into
Speaker 2: a scene like.
Speaker 3: This, and they kept the cameras rolling all the time.
Speaker 3: They just kept like filming her saying shit like that.
Speaker 3: I do remember a storyline.
Speaker 1: Yes, I do think that was good, except that I
Speaker 1: think Derinda was on there, and I think she kind
Speaker 1: of ruined it for me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Derinda was on there and Derinda was fighting.
Speaker 2: But then every now and then Derinda was bat shit
Speaker 2: and Kelly was bat shit, and every now and then
Speaker 2: they would go at each other. Yes, then, but then
Speaker 2: Kelly was like obsessed with Derinda. So the next day
Speaker 2: she'd be like, you're like my mom, Yeah, you and
Speaker 2: I love and it was and Durndad be like okay.
Speaker 2: And then even Derinda got she watched Scary Island on
Speaker 2: the show, So we watched her watching the show, which
Speaker 2: was like so meta to me, mm hmmm, and then
Speaker 2: Drenna's like, okay, yeah, you're crazy.
Speaker 3: Then she got drunk, She's like Scary Island and it
Speaker 3: was like these fucking bitches. Yeah, but I miss it.
Speaker 3: I miss it so much.
Speaker 2: Of it even Yeah, I mean, what we can't live
Speaker 2: in that, But I can't think of another housewife franchise
Speaker 2: right now that has that.
Speaker 3: It's certainly not Beverly Hills. It's terrible.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of Beverly Hills, I just want to let
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think this will come as a
Speaker 1: huge surprise, but Amanda Francis is not bad that for
Speaker 1: a second season, even though it turned out that Rihanna
Speaker 1: is a big fan and was begging her to stay. Then,
Speaker 1: of course you have to read through this entire article,
Speaker 1: which I won't do, okay with, with Amanda saying all
Speaker 1: kinds of things to like, saying yes to this show
Speaker 1: is one of the boldest, wildest, most clarifying things I've
Speaker 1: ever done. I'm genuinely grateful. And then she says a
Speaker 1: bunch of other shit that sounds exactly like that. Right,
Speaker 1: all the friends that she made and it was the
Speaker 1: greatest gift, and I am. I am taking the clarity,
Speaker 1: the lessons. The plot twists the spiritual warfare and the
Speaker 1: occasional deeply unnecessary dinner party drama into all that God
Speaker 1: has for me.
Speaker 3: Next Nope, no, thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, speaking of spiritual warfare, I know we're going
Speaker 2: to work keeping in reality, but I do want to
Speaker 2: say a lot of people are talking about that with
Speaker 2: in terms of the Perez situation, So we don't need
Speaker 2: to go into that right now. You guys didn't listen.
Speaker 2: Of course, we covered the Perez Hilton situation this week,
Speaker 2: so go back can listen to it. But when we
Speaker 2: do a part two of that, which I think we're
Speaker 2: going to have to do because I think there's a
Speaker 2: lot more to talk about there is. Yeah, yeah, a
Speaker 2: lot of people are sort of bringing up this spiritual
Speaker 2: warfare thing, which is a real big buzzword right now. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: and all on planes too. Have you been on a plane? Well,
Speaker 2: you don't fly that much.
Speaker 1: I was just on the plane. Yeah, I was on
Speaker 1: a plane, but.
Speaker 2: You don't fly often where there's going to be more
Speaker 2: like nobody on your plane was screaming about Christ right.
Speaker 1: No, And I almost put that on threads. I was
Speaker 1: almost like, you know, marking myself safe from on American
Speaker 1: airlines from anybody you know talking about Jesus mm hmm.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I will just finish this story by saying
Speaker 1: that she got a message, she got a DM from Rihanna.
Speaker 1: After she's the rumors were that she wasn't returning where
Speaker 1: she said, no, no, nope, no quitting. You're going to
Speaker 1: have your redemption. I promise you, we need more of you.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ Rihanna, no, thank you whatever.
Speaker 2: They probably know each other from some money situation, like
Speaker 2: she doesn't care about her all.
Speaker 1: Right now, I want to burn. I want to just
Speaker 1: like burn through a couple of these stories. Okay, So
Speaker 1: this story is from recently and it says that Sutton
Speaker 1: Sutton Brown can't escape chatter about her past drinking habits,
Speaker 1: and I thought this was interesting. Another thing where I
Speaker 1: feel a little bit vindicated is how much did I
Speaker 1: talk about, Like Sutton is an actual, really clearly a
Speaker 1: really bad alcoholic, And I don't think she got that
Speaker 1: much better whatever some people think she did. But I
Speaker 1: just think it's interesting that after the fact bowse It
Speaker 1: says recently opened up about Sutton. She alleged that Sutton's
Speaker 1: relationship with alcohol led to some of her personal woes,
Speaker 1: which is which this article even says on Reality Tea
Speaker 1: is a pretty big statement for her to say that.
Speaker 1: It says they all discussed Kyle Dured and Sutton. Kyle
Speaker 1: and Durite discussed how Sutton may have a problem with alcohol.
Speaker 1: Durite picked up that Mantle the following season, slamming Sutton
Speaker 1: for her bad behavior. Meanwhile, Sutton's bestie garcel stormed off
Speaker 1: stage and quit the show, and Garcelle was upset. You know,
Speaker 1: we all know what that happened. And it says she says,
Speaker 1: I struggle with it still. Oh this is what Sutton says.
Speaker 1: It's like a death. But recently Bose discussed her Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills co star on The Jason Lee Show. According to
Speaker 1: Bo's Sutton used to be a sipper but subsequently cut
Speaker 1: it out, and no, she did not, she cut down,
Speaker 1: and it says I think that was part of the
Speaker 1: whole issue she had, and even like with her friendship
Speaker 1: with Garcel, I think that's what happens. I think it
Speaker 1: was affecting a lot of things. She lost a lot
Speaker 1: of friends, like personal real friends in her life. And
Speaker 1: then they're wondering if they're referencing her assistant Auviy Auvy
Speaker 1: so yeah.
Speaker 3: Which she was very mean to him.
Speaker 2: I mean that was their stick as well, that she
Speaker 2: was going to be he was very like Tony Hale.
Speaker 2: Deep was the vibe I was getting there, you know, yes,
Speaker 2: not that she's in any way a vice president.
Speaker 1: But they're wondering if the alcohol hurt that too, and
Speaker 1: Bose does think so. She says, as for Garcel's departure quote,
Speaker 1: I believe it was fundamentally the breakdown of her friendship
Speaker 1: with Sutton, basically her alcohol use. I think that's what
Speaker 1: really happened anyway, Okay, that's that story. I just felt
Speaker 1: a little vendor. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: If you had to be stuck in a room for
Speaker 2: twenty four hours with either Sutton, Derinda or Kelly Dodd,
Speaker 2: well obviously be sudden. So let me take something out
Speaker 2: of it, Dirinda or Kelly Dodd. Twenty four god, Derinda,
Speaker 2: and you can't go to sleep? And okay, Mirinda, all right,
Speaker 2: well then honestly I'll take I'll take Rinda really drunk
Speaker 2: over five minutes with a sober Kelly Dodd. Please, that's
Speaker 2: a good answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Okay, all right, now this is just
Speaker 1: a day for like annoying stories. But I found this
Speaker 1: and I thought I would share it with you. Remember
Speaker 1: when we used to really have a bug up our
Speaker 1: asses for Michael Alio or whatever his name is. He
Speaker 1: remember a single dad beardy and do I remember that
Speaker 1: bright white chick lit teeth, and he was so self
Speaker 1: important and like, oh, everything was about his son James.
Speaker 1: Remember that. Well, guess what he's engaged. And she sounds
Speaker 1: really really like a lot as well. And it says
Speaker 1: he got a whole story in People magazine. She's a
Speaker 1: beauty influencer. Oh oh, yep, a beauty answer. Okay, So
Speaker 1: it says I'm going to skip the what it's the
Speaker 1: AI version of what are the bullet points? But Michael
Speaker 1: and Jay Ja Day I think her name is. It's Jay.
Speaker 1: It's spelled like jade. But there's a little thing over
Speaker 1: the e, a little accent mark over the e. So
Speaker 1: Ja Day, Ja Day Marie Chapman are looking forward to
Speaker 1: the rest of their lives. Okay. So he's he's forty
Speaker 1: two and she's thirty four. Uh. And they were friends
Speaker 1: for several years before their connection evolved into a romance.
Speaker 1: But do you want to know how they got to
Speaker 1: be friends? Yeah, from I think from Ja Day seeing
Speaker 1: him on.
Speaker 3: TV all the worse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm talking about because he talked the way he
Speaker 1: talked about his late wife on a fucking constant basis
Speaker 1: on television and then of course they have to retell you,
Speaker 1: and how he has continued to speak out about her
Speaker 1: life and memory. It says after Chapman saw him on
Speaker 1: TV in twenty twenty one, when he was on Katie
Speaker 1: Thurston's season of The Bachelorette, the influencer reached out to
Speaker 1: him to share that she was moved by his story,
Speaker 1: and they remained in touch platonically, and then about three
Speaker 1: years ago they started dating. Eventually she moved to California
Speaker 1: to live with him and his nine year old son, James.
Speaker 1: And then that's James, and it does say, and this
Speaker 1: is what I wanted to ask you about. Uh oh,
Speaker 1: it says he feels like the luckiest man in the world.
Speaker 1: She makes me laugh every single day, shows up for
Speaker 1: both James and me in ways I never thought possible,
Speaker 1: and loves with her whole heart. I'm going to cherish
Speaker 1: that heart for the rest of my life. Ugh, he's
Speaker 1: making me like one a puke even.
Speaker 2: Now, right, they do, That's what they do. That's the
Speaker 2: bachelor speak that they continue. But listen to what he did.
Speaker 2: This is even grosser. Okay, So he spent over a
Speaker 2: month secretly planning out the proposal with the help of
Speaker 2: his son. He made the moment all the more special
Speaker 2: by creating a custom illustrated children's book to tell their
Speaker 2: love story, which she showed her when they arrived at
Speaker 2: the park for a picnic underneath the trees. Could you
Speaker 2: just die if this is what I just have to
Speaker 2: be on mushrooms for anything.
Speaker 3: That is horrendous?
Speaker 1: Yes, it says while sitting with James, the reality star
Speaker 1: and Chapman peeled through the book until they reached the
Speaker 1: final page, which ended the story with the big question,
Speaker 1: Ja de Marie, will you marry me? At that point,
Speaker 1: James handed Dad the ring, a custom piece from Cullen Jewelry,
Speaker 1: which Alio designed with an inside grave engraving that reads
Speaker 1: to the stars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my god, all right, no more of that? Okay,
Speaker 2: no more? Okay, Yeah it's really gross. Okay can I
Speaker 2: can I do another one? Y? Do you have a
Speaker 2: Nick Viol?
Speaker 3: Wasn't there?
Speaker 1: Like? Yeah, how about how about it? This is what
Speaker 1: I'm going to do right now. So apparently Nick Viol
Speaker 1: got into a thing with Harry Jowsey. Now, a lot
Speaker 1: of people, it seems like a lot of people, beautiful
Speaker 1: people aren't loving Harry Jowsy because they find him like
Speaker 1: very sarcastic and embarrassed.
Speaker 3: Do you have to remind me, who Harry Joalsy is.
Speaker 1: He was on like, oh my god, he's very very
Speaker 1: cute and looking.
Speaker 2: No, he was on like too hot to handle. Okay,
Speaker 2: I remember the name, but I didn't watch the show.
Speaker 2: I think that he was on if I if I'm remembering.
Speaker 1: So I remember the name British, and he's very cute
Speaker 1: and he's very like boy bandy looking. He's like a
Speaker 1: bad boy. You should just you should just google Harry
Speaker 1: Jowsy and you'll see. Anyway, he's very edgy and he
Speaker 1: has a very funny so I think you would find
Speaker 1: him very funny and he's but a lot of people
Speaker 1: I think don't really get it. But anyway, okay, so
Speaker 1: it says this, oh, it looks like a.
Speaker 2: Young Russell Crow in these pictures, like when Russell was
Speaker 2: young and not but he's hotter okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he's putting his feud with Nick Vi all
Speaker 1: to bed. So okay, he's on a new show though
Speaker 1: right now, called Let's Marry Harry.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's where I saw it. He's got four
Speaker 2: point seven million followers like this guy. Yeah, but first
Speaker 2: some reason I couldn't place him because I'm like, he's
Speaker 2: not a bachelor.
Speaker 1: Right, he's very famous, yes, yeah, and for being gorgeous,
Speaker 1: and he's just like a boy toy, you know, he's
Speaker 1: just kind of a fuck boy. And he broke a
Speaker 1: lot of hearts. He hooked up with somebody on Too
Speaker 1: Hot to Handle and then they broke up, and then
Speaker 1: he was on a different reality. I think he was
Speaker 1: on Perfect Match and okay, he's just breaking hearts anyway.
Speaker 1: So now they're trying to get him married and Mary
Speaker 1: Harry don't know what happened. And it says random people.
Speaker 2: Can I just tell you this, He doesn't follow that
Speaker 2: many people, just nine hundred and he's followed by foot.
Speaker 2: That's not a lot compared to who follows him. So
Speaker 2: four point seven million people follow him and he follows
Speaker 2: nine hundred and ninety three and one of them is
Speaker 2: just randomly like Alison Hannigan, Bethany Frankel for some reason,
Speaker 2: like who who is doing this?
Speaker 1: That's funny?
Speaker 3: So random?
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe just people he's met and bonded with.
Speaker 3: But that, yeah, it's it's kind of odd. Okay, I
Speaker 3: don't hate.
Speaker 1: It, Okay, So he okay, So it says Jowsy's beef
Speaker 1: with Viall All started when the former Jowsy appeared on
Speaker 1: Perfect Match season two. By All frequently criticized Jowsy's behavior
Speaker 1: on The Vile Files. By the way, Nick Viall, you
Speaker 1: do not have a leg to stand on criticizing other
Speaker 1: people's behavior. So then Jowsy fired back in a scathing
Speaker 1: Instagram comment in which he refer a Reddit rumor about
Speaker 1: alleged infidelity in Yall's marriage to Natalie Joy. And then
Speaker 1: this is what Harry wrote. He can't keep my dick
Speaker 1: out of his mouth, he wrote in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four comment, fifty year old man gossiping about people in
Speaker 1: their twenties dating. He should be more focused on his
Speaker 1: wife cheating on him and repairing that than worrying about me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know, okay, okay, so bad, But I don't like
Speaker 2: either of them really looks like I mean, maybe Harry's fun,
Speaker 2: but he seems like a dick.
Speaker 1: Sure sure, it says. Viall never directly addressed Jowsey's jab,
Speaker 1: though he still did tell the Lady Gang podcast that
Speaker 1: while he's aware there are a ton of rumors circulating
Speaker 1: about his relationship, he tries his best to stay off
Speaker 1: the internet. Yeah. Sure, you do you know everything that's
Speaker 1: fucking going on on the internet, Nick by All, because
Speaker 1: you have a podcast that exploits it all just as
Speaker 1: we do. I'm not saying we don't, but like, can
Speaker 1: you imagine if we were like, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Just I just staffed the internet? Well then how I
Speaker 2: just don't like a culture. I don't have a TV.
Speaker 2: What if I told you right now, would you believe me?
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, I have a confession. I don't have
Speaker 2: a computer. I just use this like really old one
Speaker 2: to zoom with you, so I don't have any idea
Speaker 2: what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Ever, well, I don't have a tell.
Speaker 1: That was I think I told this was so many
Speaker 1: years ago, a long time ago. I had to do this.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was taking a class or
Speaker 1: what I was doing, but I had to write down
Speaker 1: the comedians that I liked and my favorite bits boh,
Speaker 1: and one of them I wrote down was David Spade
Speaker 1: had this old bit about like two girls arguing about
Speaker 1: who's like less into they're They're like, oh, she was like,
Speaker 1: have you seen this show? And then the other girl goes, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really, I don't really watch TV.
Speaker 1: And then the other one's like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: don't I never watched TV. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: are those two letters? What does that even stand for?
Speaker 1: I always just thought that was so funny.
Speaker 2: But anyway, and I had a bit about that. We did,
Speaker 2: like a schedule, try to find it, you know, it is.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is like what is I don't understand
Speaker 2: these words you're using.
Speaker 3: So first they don't own a TV.
Speaker 2: And then they're like, all right, well, I'm going to
Speaker 2: get the chicken salad sandwich and they're like, what is chicken?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I don't eat meat? Is how do you
Speaker 3: say it?
Speaker 1: It's the same idea, Yeah, yeah, same thing. Okay, And
Speaker 1: then we can't we really can't leave today without addressing
Speaker 1: this Ariana maddox is it Ariana? Ariana? Ariana cares?
Speaker 2: I mean some of them called her different things. So
Speaker 2: Sandoval called her one thing and Schwartz called her the other.
Speaker 2: So I'm confused. Okay, Well, because she Arianna. She got
Speaker 2: shut down in the in her appeal to toss Rachel
Speaker 2: Levis's Rachel loves Yeah, that's I've I forgotten how to
Speaker 2: pronounce people's names.
Speaker 3: The Revenge and it's not hell really, that's throwing you too.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so she's so. Ariana still trying to get
Speaker 1: the revenge porn lawsuit tossed, but an appeals court just
Speaker 1: told her the case is not going anywhere. The California
Speaker 1: Court of Appeal ruled Wednesday this just happened that Arianna
Speaker 1: can't get her Rachel's Raquel's claims phone out at this
Speaker 1: early stage, siding with the lower court judge who previously
Speaker 1: rejected her attempt to kill the case.
Speaker 2: So, man, I'm so team Arianna. I'm so team for
Speaker 2: these people were doing the most. How do you feel
Speaker 2: about it? I mean it was because the wrong move
Speaker 2: if you had a right mind to think about it.
Speaker 2: But it's not like she was selling what It wasn't
Speaker 2: revenge porn. She didn't have her make but she shared
Speaker 2: it with a bunch of people. Well wouldn't we all
Speaker 2: if you found that on somebody's on your on your
Speaker 2: husband or boyfriend's phone, wouldn't you like, oh my god
Speaker 2: and share it?
Speaker 3: I would?
Speaker 1: Well, she's a public person, though, who was on a
Speaker 1: show on a TV show that.
Speaker 2: She shared it with a friend. She didn't share it
Speaker 2: with Page six didn't share with the publication. She just
Speaker 2: sported it from his phone right to her phone first,
Speaker 2: didn't she just send it to her own phone and
Speaker 2: then show people?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh please fuck Roquel, And I say that from the
Speaker 2: bottom of my soul. I have no empathy for her
Speaker 2: at all. Usual she's like selling crystals somewhere in like
Speaker 2: Santa Barbara now or something.
Speaker 1: Standing ten toes down on business right now and saying
Speaker 1: this with your.
Speaker 2: Full chest, full chest, full chest, How dares she come
Speaker 2: for our queen?
Speaker 1: Say, I'll tell you what it says. It says. She
Speaker 1: argued scandaval was a huge public story, so her actions
Speaker 1: surrounding it were protected as free speech. This is what
Speaker 1: Arianna saying. But the court says the affair being public
Speaker 1: didn't make Roquel's private sexual videos public too. That's the
Speaker 1: heart of Roquel's case against Ariana. She claims Ariana accessed
Speaker 1: and copied the videos, which she says depicted her in
Speaker 1: a state of undress and masturbating, from Tom's phone before
Speaker 1: distributing them to others. So she did distribute them to others.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well her friends. It wasn't like to a publication.
Speaker 2: I'm just I don't know how the court I don't
Speaker 2: know how the law works in this case. And I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, you were a lawyer for a while. Though
Speaker 2: I'm a doctor.
Speaker 3: I don't know if a lot of people know.
Speaker 1: That a guy in acologist, so you do know about
Speaker 1: people's like private parts. You can weigh in on that exactly.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I think if you if you don't see
Speaker 2: the full labia, yeah waint you got, you must equitia.
Speaker 3: It doesn't rhyme as well as the OJA is the original.
Speaker 3: Okay rhyme. If you don't see the labia, you must
Speaker 3: you must equateia.
Speaker 1: I think that that's valid. Okay. I need to tell
Speaker 1: you one other thing, and it's not a long story, Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is gonna be a quickie, but I really
Speaker 1: need to get your opinion on this. And this is
Speaker 1: the so Okay, this kind of comes full circle because
Speaker 1: it's kind of like two friends that have a podcast together.
Speaker 1: And those two friends were Tory Spelling and Jenny Garth,
Speaker 1: and they were doing a Beverly Hills nine oh two
Speaker 1: and oh rewatch podcast, which I don't know if anybody needs,
Speaker 1: but I guess people were really wanting.
Speaker 3: People love that. Yeah, they love a rewatch.
Speaker 1: They love that shit. Yeah. So anyway, Tory Spelling abruptly
Speaker 1: quit the podcast with Jenny and okay, my initial so
Speaker 1: she's not saying why. And then this article I found
Speaker 1: says Tory Spelling isn't ready to speak her truth on
Speaker 1: her abrupt exit from the podcast. So this this basically
Speaker 1: made headlines. Then she did an Instagram live This is
Speaker 1: Tory with Brian Austin Green.
Speaker 2: I saw, but then yeah, I saw that, and then
Speaker 2: they went, Yeah, they went to like a like a
Speaker 2: liquor store.
Speaker 3: To my chips, they were like doing laundry. I saw it.
Speaker 2: I watched it, and it was so uncomfortable because you
Speaker 2: can tell those two have not hung out in a
Speaker 2: really long time.
Speaker 3: You should make a TikTok. You could tell. It was
Speaker 3: so weird. They're both so fucking weird. You know. I've
Speaker 3: worked with him. I did a short film with him.
Speaker 1: Yes, where he constantly wanted.
Speaker 3: To tell you he hit on so many people except
Speaker 3: for me. I was the only one.
Speaker 2: I was like why, And yes, he constantly brought up
Speaker 2: his girlfriend at the time, who was Megan Fox, but
Speaker 2: he wouldn't use her name, and he was like a
Speaker 2: girlfriend's an actress, but she like didn't seem like an actress.
Speaker 2: She just like plays VIDs all day and I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: she doesn't, and we know that it's Megan Fox. I
Speaker 2: just stop saying that and that maybe that's why he
Speaker 2: didn't want to sleep with me. But he did sleep
Speaker 2: with somebody else on the thing having a girlfriend at home.
Speaker 3: I can see that right now.
Speaker 1: Well, so no wonder Megan Fox broke up with him
Speaker 1: and she they tried to make me out to be
Speaker 1: the villain, but if he was cheating on her.
Speaker 2: He's like a big sex you know, you could he
Speaker 2: would say, probably sex addict.
Speaker 3: Hound dog. It could be that they were open, very possible,
Speaker 3: but like usually open means like when I'm on when
Speaker 3: I'm in Europe on tour, you know, it's like a
Speaker 3: little different than like I'm going to be in the
Speaker 3: valley doing a short film for.
Speaker 2: Two days, like for real, I mean, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Dude? Well cool super cool actresses at home.
Speaker 1: Well, Tori Spelling told Brian Austin Green. She said that
Speaker 1: she wants to break her silence quote in a thoughtful
Speaker 1: way rather than being reactive. So clearly something happened, and
Speaker 1: then so Brian said, he said Yeah, she needed a
Speaker 1: little time to gather her thoughts. Yeah, and then she
Speaker 1: confirmed her plans to to really take the time to
Speaker 1: really assess, really reflect before sharing further details on her steps.
Speaker 3: I'm, for one, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll talk about this next week for our
Speaker 2: regular cringe. Maybe there'll be an answer by then and
Speaker 2: we can cover that, because I do those two have
Speaker 2: been fighting for a long time.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of there was a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff on that set.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's what I wanted to ask you, Like,
Speaker 1: were they ever really good friends or was there a you.
Speaker 3: Know, a problem.
Speaker 2: I think I feel like Tory was always treated a
Speaker 2: little off because she was such a nepo. I don't
Speaker 2: like the term nepo baby, but she really was like
Speaker 2: the number one NEPO baby of all time.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: She would not have been cast as Donna on that
Speaker 2: show if her dad hadn't created the show.
Speaker 3: And there's absolutely no question of that.
Speaker 2: That's just, you know, that's just dumb luck, Like she's
Speaker 2: got lucky. It's not really her fault. She's not like, hey,
Speaker 2: don't she wanted to be an actress, so she's not like, hey,
Speaker 2: don't cast me right.
Speaker 1: She got that.
Speaker 3: She's fine.
Speaker 2: She's fine. But I think that there was a they
Speaker 2: were a little bullying. And I've heard Jenny Garzon could
Speaker 2: sometimes be a little you know, she and Shannon Doherty
Speaker 2: would fight all the time, but that was seemed to
Speaker 2: be more Shannon.
Speaker 3: You know. I just think everybody was a little bit
Speaker 3: of a dick.
Speaker 1: Well, let me just add this this one little funny.
Speaker 1: It's not funny. It's not funny at all, but it says, okay,
Speaker 1: so whatever people are trying to figure it out, it says. However,
Speaker 1: another insider, Clai the longtime friendship has unraveled due to
Speaker 1: Garth allegedly being quote completely unresponsive and not there for
Speaker 1: Tory during quote her many hospital visits and divorced from
Speaker 1: Dean McDermott. Now, but when you get close exactly, and
Speaker 1: also when you click on many hospital visits though, which
Speaker 1: is weird, the story they take you to is when
Speaker 1: Tory Spelling got in a car accident with four of
Speaker 1: her children and went to the hospital. So it's like,
Speaker 1: first of all, that's a really weird thing to say,
Speaker 1: Like are you saying that that? Jenny Garth was like, well,
Speaker 1: fuck you. I don't care that you went to the hospital,
Speaker 1: like I doubt she was. Didn't care that she was hospitalized.
Speaker 1: But also that has nothing to do with the divorce
Speaker 1: from Dean McDermott. That went on for so fucking long
Speaker 1: and still we're so tiresome. No, they're they're definitely, they're
Speaker 1: officially divorced. But don't forget that she was. There was
Speaker 1: a whole show about their relationship because he's a sex
Speaker 1: addict and was like trying to go to therapy and
Speaker 1: then he went to rehab and then you know, she
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, he's really trying, but it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to forgive him. But it was endless.
Speaker 1: If I was Jenny Garth, I'd be like, girl, LEAs,
Speaker 1: don't talk to me about this anymore, leave him or don't.
Speaker 1: But I can't hear about Dean McDermott anymore, youw.
Speaker 2: I mean seriously you Well, we'll find out more on that,
Speaker 2: but that is yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's it something, that's it, all.
Speaker 3: Right, that's it.
Speaker 2: Well, you got a lot you gotta love bang for
Speaker 2: your bucks, so you will, all right, buddy.
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody.
Speaker 3: Well, and I want to say I got quite the
Speaker 3: show this past week.
Speaker 2: So we have a couple like, you know, maybe somewhat
Speaker 2: triggering episodes, one about Perez and one about Ariana Grande,
Speaker 2: which I didn't even point out at the time. I
Speaker 2: didn't realize. Did you know that right before Perez Hilton
Speaker 2: like had his meltdown to say the least, he had
Speaker 2: done like TikTok live about Ariana Grande.
Speaker 3: Did you see that? I kind of forgotten.
Speaker 2: So I was like, then I felt kind of bad
Speaker 2: that we even covered the Orianigrad.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, now we're getting into his territory.
Speaker 2: But he came from the place also like I'm worried, worried,
Speaker 2: but you never know where what he was feeling, and
Speaker 2: we very much came from a place of concern.
Speaker 3: You're no way mocking her and what she's going through.
Speaker 2: So we do talk about that this week, plus a
Speaker 2: million other things, plus more age gaps, which we're both
Speaker 2: obsessed with, yes, very obsessed with.
Speaker 1: And we have like good stories that we might not
Speaker 1: be like what you even expect, which is always fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, thanks everybody, love you guys. Bye bye.