WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:04.759 Welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Hope everybody Saturday morning 2 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:07.519 is off to a great start and hopefully the rest 3 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:11.439 of your day and your weekend is even better. Today 4 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:14.519 on the program, we're going to talk about the john 5 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:19.559 Does from the Gallaine Maxwell civil suit, who are now 6 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:24.839 on the verge of being outed. For a long time, 7 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:30.480 Glaine Maxwell and her team were arguing against having those 8 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:35.640 names released, but after her goose was cooked well, her 9 00:00:35.679 --> 00:00:40.159 tune is changed and now not only does Virginia's team 10 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:44.119 want these names released, looks like Maxwell's team has had 11 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:47.119 enough as well fighting about it, and they're on board 12 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:47.560 as well. 13 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:50.840 So if things follow suit. 14 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:53.479 Like they have in the past with Judge Presca, that 15 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:55.840 is the judge overseeing the civil suit. 16 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:59.799 Here, we should expect to have this stuff. 17 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:05.239 Released, unredacted and released for public consumption. That would be 18 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:09.120 my guess with Judge Presca. Now the John Does, they're 19 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:11.760 gonna be able to argue the merits of keeping their 20 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:16.719 names private. They're gonna have their shot to argue to 21 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:20.959 that extent, and I don't think it's going to work 22 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:23.879 out so well for them. I really don't think anyone 23 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:27.680 has any empathy for people who were in Jeffrey Epstein's 24 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:30.359 circle at this point, unless, of course, you're Bill Clinton, 25 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:33.200 because Bill and Hillary Clinton obviously can do no wrong. 26 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:36.719 But besides those two, I don't think that you have 27 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:40.040 any chance when it comes to your relationship with Epstein 28 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:44.480 in a courtroom at this point. 29 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:45.959 And what we're going to. 30 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:50.439 See here are these people who get their names released 31 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:54.079 attempt to distance themselves from Epstein. My guess is every 32 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:56.920 single one of these names is a name that we 33 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.400 have talked about at length here on this podcast, and 34 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:03.319 my guess would be some of those names are people 35 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:08.319 that are actually accused of partaking in the abuse themselves. 36 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:14.680 So with the transparency or lack thereof, I should say 37 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:18.159 it is way beyond time that we move past that 38 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:21.199 point and we get a full accounting of what goes 39 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:25.199 on here in every single aspect of every single courtroom 40 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:29.759 involved in the Jeffrey Epstein case. I posted an episode 41 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:34.919 earlier this morning about Judge Christa Marx and the situation 42 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:37.879 with her down in Florida, and look, it just shines 43 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:42.280 a spotlight and shows you the kind of uphill battle 44 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:51.039 that has been engaged for decades at this point. These 45 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:55.159 survivors and these people who have been abused by Epstein 46 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:58.599 and Maxwell, they've had nowhere to turn. The authorities let 47 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:02.080 them down, society let them down. In a lot of instances, 48 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:05.719 their own families let them down. And then you would 49 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:09.280 think when people get caught red handed basically like Epstein did, 50 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:12.879 that the hammer would come swinging down and they'd all 51 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:17.080 go to prison forever. Yet none of that occurred, and 52 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:20.159 still to this day, nobody is actually sitting in a 53 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:23.199 prison yet. Glenn Maxwell's on her way, but she's not 54 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:28.120 rotting away, you know, in some federal facility. Yet she's 55 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:31.000 still in the holding tank basically what it is right 56 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:36.000 she's at the county version of the federal prison right now. 57 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:43.120 So it's gross when you look at it, all of 58 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.680 these other people that were involved, and not even any 59 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:49.080 indictments to see what's what in a courtroom, Shrug our 60 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:51.759 shoulders and move on, No big deal. It was obviously 61 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:55.199 just Epstein and Maxwell alone and they were just trafficking 62 00:03:55.199 --> 00:04:02.879 people back and forth between themselves. See how ridiculous that sounds. So, 63 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:07.439 like we talked about last night, if this does get 64 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:09.719 put into a mistrial, it might turn out even worse 65 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:13.919 for Maxwell. So again, she has no good options at 66 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:18.319 this point, and her attempting to keep anyone's name secret 67 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:22.480 at the cost of her own finances or her own 68 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:25.480 time just does not make any sense to anybody at 69 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:30.360 this point. So her not fighting this is the way 70 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:32.759 to go if you're looking at it from her perspective. 71 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:36.959 All right, So we have an article this morning from 72 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:43.959 CNN and the author is Eric Levinson, headline What's next 73 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:49.079 for the John does in Galainne Maxwell's settled lawsuit. Now, again, 74 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:52.800 anyone who has their name associated with Jeffrey Epstein, I 75 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:55.720 really have no empathy for you. I really don't care 76 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:59.319 if your name is put on blast and you're out 77 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:03.480 there for every body to see and hear. This is 78 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:07.120 from court documents, right, This isn't some paparazzi, you know, 79 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:10.800 talking garbage. Everything we talk about on this podcast is 80 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:13.920 backed up by sources and things that are going on 81 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:21.279 in real time. And when you talk about stuff like this, 82 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:24.399 it's important to make sure that you're not running around 83 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:30.319 and left field and just using your opinion as fact. 84 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:34.839 The judge overseeing a settled lawsuit against convicted sex offender 85 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:38.519 Glen Maxwell now has to decide whether the identities of 86 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:41.680 those mentioned in the suit will be revealed. And again, 87 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:45.120 there should be no cover for these people. If you 88 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:48.240 were involved with Epstein and you're in these court documents, 89 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:50.839 you should be put on blast by the legacy media 90 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:54.040 and everyone else, everyone else involved. There should be no 91 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:56.519 place for you to hide. You shouldn't have any friends 92 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:58.439 giving you any cover in the legacy media. 93 00:05:58.560 --> 00:05:59.000 None of that. 94 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:03.959 And we'll see when these names get released how hard 95 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:07.560 in the paint the legacy media goes. You see, they 96 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:10.079 like to go after people that they feel like they're 97 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:13.680 going to score some political points by doing it. If 98 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:16.879 there's no political angle these days, these guys aren't interested. 99 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.360 And to me, that's just gross and it's a dereliction 100 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:25.120 of duty by the Fourth Estate. The decision stems from 101 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:29.839 a twenty fifteen defamation lawsuit brought by Virginia Roberts, who 102 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.839 claimed Jeffrey Epstein sexually abused her while she was a 103 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:36.360 minor and that Maxwell aided in the abuse. The case 104 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:40.480 was settled in twenty seventeen and placed under a protective order. 105 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:44.319 Everything in their protective order is like its national security. 106 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:48.160 It's such a joke. There is no reason this should 107 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:51.600 be under protective order. Ever, this has nothing to do 108 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:54.959 with nuclear secrets. This has nothing to do with building 109 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:59.759 biological weapons. This goes right to the heart of how 110 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:02.800 our justice system is. And that's why they file it 111 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:04.720 on your seal. That's why they don't let it be 112 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:06.680 released to the public because they know you. 113 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:07.639 If you folks had. 114 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:09.680 A full look at what was going on, you would 115 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:13.439 not stand for it. But yet here we are once 116 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:17.199 again being force fed narratives and people accepting them, and 117 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:19.639 all of the lemmings and lap dogs and the legacy 118 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:24.000 media are way way too busy carrying water for their 119 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.879 insert tribe here to really break it down and give you. 120 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:29.160 Folks the real truth. 121 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:35.120 But parts of it have been unsealed since then, as Roberts, 122 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:38.240 Maxwell and the number of third party figures have debated 123 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:41.759 what should and shouldn't be released to the public. Look, 124 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:45.600 here's the thing. Once Virginia's team was on board with 125 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:48.240 it being released, I don't care about what Maxwell thinks, 126 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:51.279 I don't care about what the John does think. If 127 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:54.959 your name is associated with someone like Jeffrey Epstein, even 128 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:58.560 in the smallest way, you better get ready to batten 129 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:03.000 down the hatches because of the storm is approaching and 130 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:05.079 you better have a good answer and a good reason 131 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:11.199 for your associations with this man. The latest update in 132 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:14.519 a year's long case came last week when Maxwell's attorney 133 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:17.120 said they would no longer fight to keep secret the 134 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:19.720 names of eight john Does and will leave it to 135 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:23.079 the court to decide whether their names should be unsealed. 136 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:26.439 And like I said, Judge Presca has been doing a 137 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:29.199 real good job here when it comes to transparency and 138 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:32.639 unsealing these files. I'm not a big fan of these judges, 139 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:35.240 as you all know, but when they do a good job, 140 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:36.840 just like anybody else, we should. 141 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:37.279 Give them props. 142 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:40.399 And Presca so far has done a pretty good job 143 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:43.360 here and I would expect her to continue to do 144 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.320 the same, and I would expect this all to be released. 145 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:52.559 US District Judge Loretta Presca will now have to rule 146 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:54.879 on how to handle those eight Does and how to 147 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:58.720 balance the public's interest with their privacy rights. It's the 148 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.559 type of decision judges must make all the time in 149 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.480 the course of their jobs. But that doesn't make it simple, 150 00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:07.919 said Sarah Chrisoff, a partner at Day Pitney and a 151 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:11.159 former assistant US Attorney for the Southern District of New York. 152 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:15.480 It's really a document by document process, Chrisoff said, it's 153 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:20.120 incredibly intensive. Well, that might be the case, but again, 154 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.519 all we can go on is what PRESCA has done 155 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:25.159 in the past, right, There has been nothing to signal 156 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:28.279 in the past that Judge Presca is not going to 157 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:32.840 be about transparency here moving forward. So while I can't 158 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:38.519 guarantee anything obviously, I am relatively confident that PRESCO will 159 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:42.759 release at least the vast majority of these documents, and 160 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:44.919 I can't wait to dig into them. I can't wait 161 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:47.440 to see who's what the names are because guess what, 162 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:51.720 It's one thing for us to have a hypothesis or 163 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:54.320 to speculate. It's another thing when you see it in 164 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:56.960 court documents, right, It shows you that you've been on 165 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:59.639 the right path the whole entire time, and that these 166 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:04.399 you know, bombing runs have been over the target. And inevitably, 167 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:08.960 every single time we get court documents released, it corroborates 168 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:12.159 everything we've been talking about on the podcast. So I'm 169 00:10:12.159 --> 00:10:15.360 always a big fan when we get these a tranch 170 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:17.279 of documents dumped in our lab. 171 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:20.200 What is this case? 172 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:23.879 The case began in twenty and fifteen when Roberts sued 173 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:28.399 Maxwell for defamation related to public comments about Robert's alleged 174 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.200 sexual abuse in two thousand and one, and the case 175 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.039 was settled and sealed in twenty and seventeen. So again, 176 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:38.440 let's just go back. It's not alleged abuse. 177 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:38.480 All right. 178 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:42.080 Virginia's been paid out by Epstein, She's been paid out 179 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:47.360 by the estate, and now we also have Glen Maxwell 180 00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:50.399 being charged with perjury over what was said in this deposition, 181 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:55.320 once again proving that the federal government believes Virginia's story. 182 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:58.639 So let's not say an accuser, all right. Virginia was 183 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:04.399 paid out. The state recognized and realized what Epstein had done, 184 00:11:04.519 --> 00:11:07.279 and they took full responsibility when they paid that money 185 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:12.159 out to each and every one of these girls. However, 186 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:15.440 the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit unsealed 187 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:19.519 hundreds of pages of documents on August ninth, twenty nineteen, 188 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:22.919 a day before Epstein died in prison, ruling that the 189 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:27.120 district court judge had improperly sealed hundreds of filings. The 190 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:30.720 judge has since died. Well, I don't ever wish death 191 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:33.639 on anybody, right, not a good look. But some of 192 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:37.919 these judges, like I say, they run these courtrooms as 193 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:42.000 if it was their own fiefdom, and they're some some 194 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:47.159 feudal lord who has the decision of life and death 195 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:50.080 basically in their hands. And that's the sort of system 196 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.679 we have set up. And we have to remember that 197 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:55.399 these judges are only human beings, and they have faults, 198 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:57.799 and they have problems, and they have warts. Some of 199 00:11:57.840 --> 00:11:59.799 them are bad, some of them are evil, some of 200 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:03.720 them good, but we don't know. Right, everybody's a gray character. 201 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:09.519 And I'm not really comfortable with lifetime seats on the 202 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:15.559 judges bench. I'm not a big fan of that at all. 203 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:19.320 I think that that should be, you know, like any 204 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:23.000 other position, maybe a ten year run or something like that. 205 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:28.360 I don't know exact numbers or whatever, but a lifelong seat, Nah, 206 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:33.000 no way. The Court of Appeals has remanded the case 207 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.320 back to the district court to go through the rest 208 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:38.840 of the documents individually and determine what can be unsealed. 209 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:42.519 Judge Presca, who has since taken over the case, ruled 210 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:46.720 to unseal more documents in July twenty twenty, including Maxwell's 211 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:51.039 twenty sixteen deposition related to the lawsuit, as well as 212 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:53.879 emails and depositions by others. See. 213 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:54.559 This is what I mean. 214 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:58.960 PRESCA has set a precedent so far, and would I 215 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:01.600 would be very shocked if she veered off course at 216 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.320 this point. She seems to be somebody who is ready 217 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.480 to get this over with. She doesn't want this shit 218 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:09.759 on her docket anymore, and she wants to, you know, 219 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:13.320 get it out there and move on. That is what 220 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:16.600 I see from my seat here in the Peanut gallery anyway, 221 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:20.320 And I would hope that PRESCO would continue on this path, 222 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.960 especially now with Maxwell and the conviction. You would think 223 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:28.240 that it would even be more important to bring this 224 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:36.200 out and put it into the public sphere. In her ruling, 225 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:38.559 she said that the public's right to have access to 226 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:42.440 the information carried heavier weight than the annoyance or embarrassment 227 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:43.120 to Maxwell. 228 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:44.120 And this is what I mean. 229 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:47.720 PRESCA has seemed to be somebody who actually cares about 230 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:51.759 transparency so far, and every now and then you'll run 231 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:54.559 into one of these judges who doesn't mess around, right, 232 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:58.639 somebody who is actually in the business of making sure 233 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:02.440 that the laws follow and following the law as it's 234 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:04.279 put on the books. Yeah, you know, one of those 235 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:07.240 kinds of judges. Very rare indeed, but there are a 236 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:11.240 few of them out there. In the context of this case, 237 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:15.480 especially its allegations of sex trafficking of young girls, the 238 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:20.080 court finds any minor embarrassment or annoyance resulting from Miss 239 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:24.639 Maxwell's mostly non testimony is far outweighed by the presumption 240 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:28.679 of public access. She said, So, when you have a 241 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:32.679 judge that has that kind of speech going on in 242 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:35.879 their courtroom, who is very clear about where they stand, 243 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:40.120 it would take a huge, huge situation to move them 244 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:43.320 from that position, at least I would think so. Anyway, 245 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:49.919 And if Presca's past has any you know, telling of 246 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:52.399 what the future is going to hold, then we can 247 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:56.440 expect that these documents are going to be dumped. However, 248 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:59.960 PRESCA ruled that several medical records, including in the court file, 249 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:01.519 would remain sealed. 250 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:03.679 Well, I would usually agree. 251 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:05.799 With that, but we're at a point now where everybody's 252 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:08.080 digging into everybody else's medical records. 253 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:09.559 I mean, do hippo laws. 254 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:12.200 Even matter anymore? It's an honest question. 255 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:12.960 You see. 256 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:15.720 What happens is when you start getting on a slippery slope, folks, 257 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:17.519 and you start making. 258 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:21.759 You know, moves for the short term. 259 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:24.480 And you're not looking at the big picture, well, find 260 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:27.360 yourself in a very dangerous place. So we have to 261 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:30.600 always keep an eye on the big picture, even though 262 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:33.320 we're dealing with something that is right in our face. 263 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:36.799 And it's hard to do that sometimes. But those hippo 264 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:39.600 laws are very important. I'm a very private person and 265 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:42.799 I don't like people, you know, digging into my health 266 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:45.279 and all of that. So when it comes to health 267 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.320 that kind of stuff. I have medical records. I could 268 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:51.679 see that staying sealed, and I'm not even mad about that, unless, 269 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:54.679 of course, it's pertinent to the case. If it pushes 270 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:57.559 the case forward and it has something to do with 271 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:00.559 testimony or something like that, then yeah, let's get it 272 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:05.159 out there. But just you know, basic medical records or 273 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:09.799 you know, somebody's trip to go get some heart medicine 274 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:12.320 or whatever. It's really no one's business in my opinion, 275 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:16.679 if you're homing it. In addition, she noted that multiple 276 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:20.399 anonymous women Jane those who accused Epstein of abuse but 277 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:23.679 had not publicly spoken out, would continue to have their 278 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:27.519 identities redacted in the documents. That's a good thing as well. 279 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:30.840 Though the defamation case was a civil lawsuit, it ultimately 280 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:34.720 led to criminal charges against Maxwell. And we've seen this 281 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:37.120 every single time there has been a civil suit that 282 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:40.720 Glen Max, I mean that Virginia has brought against these people, 283 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:44.879 it has ended up in criminal charges as well. So 284 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:48.879 while I am not confident we'll see that with Prince Andrew, 285 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.679 the Prince of Nothing, I would say he has to 286 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:56.080 be concerned because we've seen a pattern form here already. 287 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:02.039 Maxwell Epstein both sued, then both afterwards were found criminally 288 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:05.920 liable as well. So this is a real dangerous situation 289 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:11.000 for Prince Andrew, no doubt about that. Again, enforcing any 290 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:16.720 kind of criminal findings against him gonna be very difficult. 291 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:20.920 Maxwell sixty, faces up to sixty five years in prison 292 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:25.359 after she was found guilty last month last month in 293 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:28.799 a New York federal court on five federal charges, including 294 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:32.119 sex trafficking of a minor. The two perjury counts were 295 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:35.920 severed from the sex trafficking trial and prosecutors agreed to 296 00:17:35.960 --> 00:17:39.839 dismiss them pending an appeal on her guilty verdicts. So 297 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:43.599 that's basically the little dangled fruit at the end of 298 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:46.559 the fishing pole here, right. Look, if you go through 299 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:48.680 this and you don't give us any lip, and you 300 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:51.000 just take the punishment as it's been handed down. 301 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:53.039 We'll drop these other two charges. 302 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:59.079 Meanwhile, Maxwell and her team, they're sinking their teeth into 303 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:02.519 the hopes of a miss trial. And again, I'm not 304 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:04.400 a big time lawyer, you know, I didn't go to 305 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:06.920 a big time school, you know, mister unlv over here. 306 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:09.960 But it would seem to me that a second trial 307 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:13.079 could even prove to be more ruinous, more disastrous for 308 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:18.279 Glenn Maxwell. So they better tread very lightly here. What 309 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:22.279 about these john Does. In a September twenty twenty one ruling, 310 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:26.720 PRESCA said there were sixteen non party objectors or people 311 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:29.880 not party to the suit who objected to their identities 312 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:33.920 being released. PRESCA decided to deal with eight of them first, 313 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:38.119 followed by the next EID. The identities of these does are, 314 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:41.559 of course not clear broadly, though there are people whose 315 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:45.559 names were mentioned in the earlier defamation case. And here 316 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:49.440 comes the detective work for you folks out there. If 317 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.680 you want to try and decode who these people are, 318 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:55.680 have at it. I have a few guesses of my own, 319 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:58.240 but no sense muddying the water, right, We'll wait to 320 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:01.319 see what's what, and if their names aren't released, then 321 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:04.079 we'll dig into that and try and play the guessing game. 322 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:06.519 But until we have some more meat on the bone, 323 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:08.759 I think you folks know by now that I don't 324 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:12.440 really delve too deep into territory when I don't have 325 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:17.519 a map, if you get my drift. Maxwell's attorneys had 326 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:20.720 argued to keep those identity secret, but last week told 327 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:23.240 the court they no longer wished to address the objection 328 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:26.440 of the objections further, each of the list, it does, 329 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:31.000 has counsel who have ably asserted their own respective privacy rights. 330 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:34.720 Miss Maxwell therefore leaves it to this court to conduct 331 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:38.519 the appropriate review. In other words, Maxwell's tapping out, and 332 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:41.279 you bitch asses are on your own figure it out, 333 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.759 get your own lawyers ready to go, because we're done. 334 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:47.240 Maxwell got her goose cook. None of you stepped up 335 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:49.759 to the plate to help her. Now she has nothing 336 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:52.400 to say to help you. Basically, what's going on here, 337 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:56.400 And she kept her silence for this long and you know, 338 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:01.519 didn't let all of these names out or whatever obviously 339 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:05.880 self serving purposes while she was facing charges. But at 340 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:08.640 the same time it was protecting these people as well. 341 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:10.720 Now they got to do it with their own lawyers 342 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:13.640 their own litigation, and that comes with its own amount 343 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:18.680 of danger, because once you have court filings and stuff, 344 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:21.480 and stuff goes into the docket, you know it's a 345 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:27.319 matter of public knowledge at that point. Robert's attorneys have 346 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:30.920 argued for the identities to be unsealed, noting that several 347 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.599 of the does simply didn't want their names associated with 348 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:38.519 the case. Generalized aversion to embarrassment and negativity that may 349 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:41.759 come from being associated with Epstein and Maxwell is not 350 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:46.000 enough to warrant continued sealing of information. This is especially 351 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:49.400 true with respect to this case of great public interest 352 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:54.839 involving serious allegations of the sex trafficking of minors. Robert's attorney, 353 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:58.720 Sigared McCauley wrote last week, now that Maxwell's criminal trial 354 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:02.240 is coming gone, there is little reason to retain protection 355 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:06.440 over the vast amounts of information about Epstein and Maxwell 356 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:10.839 sex trafficking operation that were originally filed under seal in 357 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:13.720 this case. And I mean, does she need to say 358 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:16.200 anymore that gets right to the point there, right to 359 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:18.759 the heart of the matter. Unseal it, let us see 360 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:21.160 it and let the public make their own decisions. 361 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:24.279 What are you so worried about. 362 00:21:24.920 --> 00:21:27.039 I know it might catch up some of like Nancy 363 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:30.559 Pelosi's daughter says, some of your faves, but you know what, 364 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:34.559 if they're caught up in this, they shouldn't be your 365 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:39.559 faves anyway. And the people that still support Clinton, I 366 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:45.279 honestly I have to wonder about you folks at this point. 367 00:21:46.279 --> 00:21:49.799 What issues will the judge consider in this decision. Judges 368 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:52.359 always have to balance the public the public's right to 369 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:56.039 know with issues of privacy. Chrisoff noted, generally this is 370 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:59.039 made on a document by document or even line by 371 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:02.960 line basis, rather than in one broad decision. It's a 372 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:07.160 very particular it's a very particular determination whether a specific 373 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:10.200 document should be under seal or not under seal, and 374 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:13.839 within that document, whether portion should be redacted or not. 375 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:17.039 She said, no, no redactions. Let's get it all out there. 376 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:21.880 I'm tired of these big blocks of black cover up 377 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:25.400 on these documents. Can we just get the full story please? 378 00:22:25.880 --> 00:22:29.160 And then they cry, oh, people are conspiracy theorists, these 379 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:32.119 morons in the legacy media, as if they haven't helped 380 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:35.400 push that whole entire thing along. And it all comes 381 00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:38.359 back to transparency. If you would just shoot people straight, 382 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:41.920 just shoot people straight for once and let people come 383 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.240 up to their own conclusions and you know, decide for themselves. 384 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.240 But they never do that, right, Let's keep this transparent, 385 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:51.000 We'll hide this, will file this under seal with no 386 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:54.599 real reasoning behind it. And then, well, the people who 387 00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:57.640 are into conspiracy theories and wild shit, they're often running, 388 00:22:58.039 --> 00:23:06.839 Like I said yesterday, can you blame them? 389 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:07.720 In this case? 390 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:10.880 These decisions are being made years after the fact by 391 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:13.359 a judge who was not part of the initial proceedings. 392 00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:17.759 That challenge helps explain why this process has moved so slowly, 393 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:21.160 Chrisoff explained. When doing it later and having to look 394 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:24.400 back and recreate what happened and do some slothing, it 395 00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:27.720 takes a lot longer, she said, yeah, no doubt about it. 396 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:30.519 But let's not act like Judge Presca's sitting around in 397 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:34.559 the middle of the night in her jurors robe, eating 398 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:38.119 coffee cake and digging through the files herself. 399 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:40.480 That's what her clerks are for, you know. 400 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:42.319 They put it together, bring it to her, and then 401 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:47.200