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<v Speaker 1>Bill cunning in the Great America. Of course, Israel. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the attacks on Iran is continuing, are continuing, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is a something that began in nineteen forty eight. And

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<v Speaker 1>for those who think this is a brand new event,

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<v Speaker 1>no it's not. Israel's been attacked multiple times by multiple

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<v Speaker 1>factions over multiple generations and years. And this is an

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing effort to take down the Iranian regime and make

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<v Speaker 1>it look like some of the other more peaceful Muslim

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<v Speaker 1>regimes in the Middle East. And we'll see what happens

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<v Speaker 1>down the road, but this is an ongoing attack that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to take several days. Joining you and I Nalys

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<v Speaker 1>Professor Yuri Kaufman, a new book is American Intafada, Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>the Gaza War and the new anti Semitism that would

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<v Speaker 1>be in America. And Professor Kaufman, welcome again to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, when all this

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<v Speaker 1>started a day or two ago, give me your reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to what occurred and whether or not you see hold

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<v Speaker 1>them in a victory or not.

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<v Speaker 2>For Israel, well, we're seeing here as historic. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>other word for it. I mean that word get tossed

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<v Speaker 2>around a lot but this time it really is historic.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only way to describe this. It's been twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five years in the making. In fact, Prime Minister Nintennio

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<v Speaker 2>just said that when Ron Dermer, who was one of

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<v Speaker 2>his I can even say his right hand man, first

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<v Speaker 2>joined him twenty five years ago and he asked, what's

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<v Speaker 2>our biggest threat? Didn't Yeo said, if they're on And

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<v Speaker 2>nt Yo wrote a book all the way back in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty two, it was only three years after the

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<v Speaker 2>Iatolas seies power there and he said, all the way

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<v Speaker 2>back then, these guys are crazy and they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to get a nuclear weapon. So this is many, many,

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<v Speaker 2>many years in the making. Israel has been planning this attack,

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<v Speaker 2>we know, for over twenty years, and it finally came

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<v Speaker 2>to being, and very it's a familiar tale if you

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<v Speaker 2>follow Israel. It's being compared to the opening attack of

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen sixty seven war. And what happened then was

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<v Speaker 2>you had this three week period. It was known to

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<v Speaker 2>Israelis as the ham Tanah, meaning the waiting period, three

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<v Speaker 2>weeks of just nerve shattering, waiting, when the Arab armies

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<v Speaker 2>all massed at the border, the Israelis tried everything, everything

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<v Speaker 2>to find a diplomatic way out, and when it became

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<v Speaker 2>clear that there just wasn't one, they struck. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what happened this time, only the ham Tanah. The waiting

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<v Speaker 2>was not three weeks, it was literally twenty years, and

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<v Speaker 2>every avenue was attempted to bring this to some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of peaceful end. Sadly, the Iotols just wouldn't listen to sense.

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump told them sixty days ago on April the twelfth,

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<v Speaker 2>you got sixty more days. Is will struck on the

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<v Speaker 2>sixty first day. It's pretty clear that they saw it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister Nintendo gave a press conference last night. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw they were finally reaching for the bomb itself.

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<v Speaker 2>That you no, it's not research, it's not in Richmond.

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<v Speaker 2>They're actually making a bomb, and this is it. We

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<v Speaker 2>just we couldn't wait any longer. So here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>I could just make one other point. The reason this

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<v Speaker 2>is also so historic and it will be talked about

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time is once again Israel is demonstrating

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<v Speaker 2>the complete superiority of Western technology over anything that Iran

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<v Speaker 2>or Russia or probably China might have. Everyone around the

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<v Speaker 2>world is watching this with their jaw dropped. They were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a situation where, well, go back to sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>They have this incredibly successful opening strike destroyed all the

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<v Speaker 2>air of air forces on the ground. What a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people don't know is in that attack, Israel lost

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent of all its planes. Now it didn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they still on the war because the ADS no longer

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<v Speaker 2>had air forces, but they took terrible losses. They lost

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent of the whole air force in this strike.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, they are flying back and forth one thousand

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<v Speaker 2>miles in each direction. They've wiped out Iran's air defense completely.

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<v Speaker 2>They've wiped out much of their leadership, the head of

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<v Speaker 2>the Revolutionary Guard, They've wiped out much of their nuclear ASCID,

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<v Speaker 2>that's many of their military assets, whatever air force they had.

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<v Speaker 2>They've flown all the way back to Israel. They've done

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<v Speaker 2>it wave after wave after wave, and they haven't lost

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<v Speaker 2>a single plane. They can literally fly in and out

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<v Speaker 2>of Iran at will, the way you know, you or

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<v Speaker 2>I fly from New York to Chicago. It is astonishing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it is unbelievable the technology, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>Iran is going to respond with missiles somehow, but they've

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<v Speaker 2>done this twice. They did it in April last year,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, they did it in October, same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Not one Israeli was killed. It's miraculous they've achieved almost

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent interception of all this ordinance Israel. Go

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<v Speaker 2>back to the April attack Iran, we now know fired

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<v Speaker 2>thirty cruise missiles, one hundred ballistic missiles, and hundreds and

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of brons. We don't even know how many. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the biggest missile attack ever launched against any country

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<v Speaker 2>in history. Israel shotdown pretty much all of that. They

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<v Speaker 2>took one little girl who was unfortunately wounded, but that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody was killed and there was no physical damage to

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<v Speaker 2>the country. They think they blew a little hole in

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<v Speaker 2>an airbase somewhere. This is mind blowing. No one expected

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<v Speaker 2>it to be the technology to work this well. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're Russia, if you're China, you've got to be watching

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<v Speaker 2>this and saying, wait a minute, you know, maybe we're

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<v Speaker 2>not as strong as we thought we were. And that

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<v Speaker 2>really shows why Israel is such a valuable ally and professor.

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<v Speaker 1>Going back historically, the same thing happened in Baghdad when

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<v Speaker 1>Sadim Mussein was in charge. Israel said not on my watch,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to have a nuclear weapon. They took

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<v Speaker 1>down the nuclear facilities in Baghdad. Same thing in Syria.

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<v Speaker 1>Syria under Asad wanted to have nuclear weapons as a

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<v Speaker 1>trump card against Israel I guess against US. Took that down.

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<v Speaker 1>But wasn't it a fool's Errand to believe that the Ayatola,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a culture of death, not a culture of life,

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<v Speaker 1>that they were willingly allow international inspections by Americans and

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<v Speaker 1>others to guarantee they're not going to have weapons grade

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<v Speaker 1>uranium to marry with a with a with a missile.

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<v Speaker 1>But wasn't it kind of a fool's er? And to

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<v Speaker 1>think that Iran would go the route of other nations.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, they look at what happened into Libya when

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<v Speaker 1>Moumark Cadeffi gave up his WMD within a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, he was in a ditch somewhere fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>his life. And when Baghdad fell, look at the uh

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<v Speaker 1>look at the killing by hanging of Sodom Hussein. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the eye had told us et cetera, are thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, we have to have a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>If we don't have a nuclear weapon, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>face the same fate as Sodom Hussein.

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<v Speaker 2>It's even worse than that. I mean, it's all those

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<v Speaker 2>things that you said are obviously true, but it's even

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<v Speaker 2>worse than that. If I were to say to you,

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<v Speaker 2>it literally goes down to the very culture itself. If

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<v Speaker 2>I were to say to you, what is the purpose

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<v Speaker 2>of government, you'd say, the purpose of government, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>to improve the lives of the citizenry. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>might say, without a trick question, I mean, isn't that obvious. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's obvious to us, but if not so obvious to them.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ask the Ayatolas, what is the purpose of government,

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<v Speaker 2>they would say, oh, simple, it's to spread radical Islam.

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<v Speaker 2>It's to create a shi It Talifate and kill anyone

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<v Speaker 2>in our path. Ayatolaholmani once famously said the revolution was

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<v Speaker 2>not about the price of watermelons. He also said economics

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<v Speaker 2>is for donkeys, and when he meant by that was

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<v Speaker 2>My job is not to make this country prosperous. My

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<v Speaker 2>job is to spread radical Islam, no matter what it takes.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is why you look at Iran it is

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<v Speaker 2>a nation with thirty percent unemployment, forty percent inflation. They've

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<v Speaker 2>got rolling blackouts, they can't keep the lights on. And

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<v Speaker 2>here they are sending billions of dollars to the WHO

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<v Speaker 2>these and billions to Hesbalon, billions to Kamas, billions on

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<v Speaker 2>this crazy nuclear program. It is estimated that they lost

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<v Speaker 2>a fifty billion dollar investment just on the proxies that

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<v Speaker 2>were taken off the board. By now they're losing their

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear asseis and yet they keep sending all this money.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do they keep doing it? Answer because the most

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<v Speaker 2>important thing to them is spreading radical Islam. And so

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<v Speaker 2>now a nation like that that gets a nuclear weapon,

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<v Speaker 2>that is a very very dangerous world.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Israel would be first, we'd be second. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I cheer on the Israelis to do our bidding

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<v Speaker 1>in a sense because having visited Israel about two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years ago, it was a wonderful Western style democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Urik Kaufman, I saw gay pride flags in

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<v Speaker 1>Tel Aviv, and I'm thinking, well, I wonder how that

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<v Speaker 1>would work in many Muslim capitals. It would not work.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the idea that the Iotolas now would step

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<v Speaker 1>aside and say, you know what, Okay, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>give up all our nuclear weapons. Let's have a functioning

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<v Speaker 1>Western style democracy. Let's give our citizens a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of freedom. We're going to get rid of the death

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<v Speaker 1>cult that calls for the killing, the murder of Westerners, Christians, Catholics,

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<v Speaker 1>the Baptists, the Jews, wherever they might be located. That

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<v Speaker 1>was never going to happen. I can't conceive without occurring.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're an Iranian, let's say you're a typical

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<v Speaker 1>Iranian living somewhere somewhere in Tehran and you're watching this

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<v Speaker 1>going on, can you get in the mind of the

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<v Speaker 1>Iranian people and talk about whether or not they want

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<v Speaker 1>to continue down this path.

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<v Speaker 2>So polling on Iran is a very very tricky piece

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<v Speaker 2>of business, as it is in any totalitarian society. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>imagine you living in a country like that and some

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<v Speaker 2>guy calls you on the phone and wants to know

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<v Speaker 2>what you think of the regime. You know, you're probably

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna be all that open in your answers. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>we do know Iran has a lot of minorities, first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, so it's not, you know, a homogeneous country.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a lot of the Yazidi's, You've got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of Baha's, You've got a lot of other minorities

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<v Speaker 2>who don't believe in any of this nonsense. We also

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<v Speaker 2>know that there is a cosmopolitan culture centered mostly in Kirat. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>having said that, there's also a culture. You go to

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<v Speaker 2>the religious city, the place like kom or Isfahan, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of very, very very iradical people. The

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<v Speaker 2>rumblings from the streets suggest there's a big opposition movement there.

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<v Speaker 2>It perks its head up every couple of years. It

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<v Speaker 2>came up in two thousand and nine, it bubbled up

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<v Speaker 2>a few years ago as well. Each time the Iotolas

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<v Speaker 2>have been able to put it down. These things are very,

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<v Speaker 2>very very hard to gauge from the outside. All I

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<v Speaker 2>can say is revolutions are always the same. They look

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<v Speaker 2>impossible before they happen, and they look inevitable after they happen.

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<v Speaker 2>You know where we stand with Iran on this, We

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<v Speaker 2>don't really know. But one thing I can say, we

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<v Speaker 2>can't afford to sit back and hope the Iranian people

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<v Speaker 2>solve this problem for us, because the odds are better

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<v Speaker 2>than pretty good that they won't, and a world again

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<v Speaker 2>in which iotolas have nuclear weapons is a very dangerous world.

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<v Speaker 2>And again not just for Israel, but for the United

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<v Speaker 2>States as well. They chance, you know, Israel is the

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<v Speaker 2>little Satan, but we're the big Satan, and we know

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<v Speaker 2>what they want to do with the big Satan. So

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<v Speaker 2>this just shows how Israel is such a terrific ally,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a force multiplier. They do a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>dirty work that we would otherwise have to do. As

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<v Speaker 2>we said, they took out Sodom's reactor, they took out

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<v Speaker 2>Bashar's reactor. They've done so many other things over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>It really shows what an important ally Israel is.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to think a few weeks ago, when

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump visited the more functional parts of Islamic republics

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<v Speaker 1>in the cutter in Saudi Arabia, et cetera, that he

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia, Mama ben Salmon that what israe and you

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<v Speaker 2>They're terrified. It's really as simple as that, because they

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<v Speaker 2>know they are of course Shuni Muslim Irani's Shiite Muslim

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<v Speaker 2>The Iranians want nothing more than to conquer Mecca, to

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<v Speaker 2>of a Shiai talipate as opposed to where it is

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<v Speaker 2>now in sunny hands. The Saudis are delighted by this.

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<v Speaker 2>They issued, you know, a very very bland statement condemning it,

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<v Speaker 2>as did Cutter, as did a number of other countries.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's obvious they're delighted that this happened because they

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<v Speaker 2>know that they're being rescued just as readily as Israel

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<v Speaker 2>as being rescued now. At the same time, they also

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<v Speaker 2>it will, they might retaliate against Saudi Arabia. Now why

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<v Speaker 2>would they do that, Well, it's just the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>way of saying, you know, if we're miserable, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make everybody miserable. We want the price of oil to

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<v Speaker 2>be high, we want to hurt the West. So it

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<v Speaker 2>really is just important that the United States stay involved

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<v Speaker 2>and help defend the Saudi oil fields. We certainly have

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<v Speaker 2>an interest there, and we have an interest in defending

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<v Speaker 2>our allies in the region. And you know, Bahrain and

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<v Speaker 2>Qatar definitely cutter is a very very stray situation. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they put a chip on every color on the board,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, they're kind of in our camp, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're in the other camp as well. But we do

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, should Americans on the homeland be concerned? According to

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<v Speaker 1>media accounts, there's thousands of Islamic terrorists led across the

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<v Speaker 1>southern border by Joe Biden all over the country unvetted.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are they were that we have no idea. Ten

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<v Speaker 1>to twelve million came in unvetted. Another ten million came

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<v Speaker 2>What I find more disturbing is just the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>often young people who just on their own are inspired

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<v Speaker 2>by these crazy radicalismss. And you know, we saw what

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<v Speaker 2>happened that the murder of those two young Israeli diplomats

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<v Speaker 2>in DC. Not that long ago. There's been a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other I mean physical attacks on people. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I would certainly be vigilant. Am I really alarmed by it?

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, of course, Jews are set on fire. We have

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<v Speaker 1>Jews being gunned down in our nation's cap but you

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<v Speaker 1>have the democratic Jewish governor of Pennsylvania had his home firebomb.

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<v Speaker 1>For God's sakes, and incredible stuff happening. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>pray to God Israel is successful. Their success is to

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<v Speaker 1>our betterment. Their failure would be awful. Can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>a world in which Israel's wiped off the face of

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<v Speaker 1>the earth and somehow Iran then spreads its tentacles. They

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<v Speaker 1>are a culture of death who want to destroy not

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<v Speaker 1>one of life. But once again, you're a Kaufman, professor.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens down the road. But the book is

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<v Speaker 1>American Intafada, Israel, the Gaza War, and the New Anti Semitism.

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<v Speaker 1>But once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Professor,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very.

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<v Speaker 2>Much, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless America. Let's continue with more. And there are

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<v Speaker 1>useful idiots all over this country who act as if

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<v Speaker 1>there's some union between American freedom on one hand and

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza war is something that we should not be involved

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<v Speaker 1>in because it doesn't involve does in this sense. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a failure of our public education. And we have to

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<v Speaker 1>understand the world as it is not the way the

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<v Speaker 1>Israelis for the Israelis in Tel Aviv to organize, unbeknownst

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<v Speaker 1>to the Iranian generals, a powwow of their joint chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>of staff in one place, and they're getting together in

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<v Speaker 1>near Tehran, Iran thinking the eye Tota wanted to have

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<v Speaker 1>a powwow with him, but the Israeli sit up the meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they had the Israeli send a missile and kill

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<v Speaker 1>them all together at once. Is incredible. They now know

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<v Speaker 1>they can't pick up a cell phone, they can't use

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<v Speaker 1>a pager, they can't turn on the television sets, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to use the air conditioners. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't communicate, and they can't meet. Now, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>problem when you're trying to conduct a war. Let's continue

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<v Speaker 1>with more. Bill Cunningham, the Great American, Live on news

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