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<v Speaker 1>Weird things happened in Weird Weird Weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Get that. So today we have Molly chopin am I

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<v Speaker 2>saying that right, chopin, chopin, like like the the pianist

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<v Speaker 2>that you are not related to. Correct. Okay, So before

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<v Speaker 2>we start, because I often forget to do this, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to see that you're wearing a beanie, so I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to give you one of our beanies.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, thank you so much. Oh yes, this is one

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<v Speaker 4>of my favorite kinds of hat to wear. Right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed, so appreciate. Well there's things in it too,

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<v Speaker 2>so you gotta.

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<v Speaker 4>There are things. Oh yes, awesome stickers. Yes, yes, thank you,

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a great, great honor to be here with

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<v Speaker 4>you all today, talking with you all. It's been like

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<v Speaker 4>we were talking about before, you know, I've been with

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<v Speaker 4>you all almost since the beginning. Yeah, it's just been

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<v Speaker 4>quite a ride to see what's transpired for you all,

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<v Speaker 4>what's transpired for me along the way. It's a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is for us too. It's very cool to

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<v Speaker 2>have you here. And you know, I would like for

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you and Alex to cut in and tell that

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<v Speaker 2>story because you guys actually met first at the Heart Festival.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if you guys maybe want to

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<v Speaker 2>start there or if you want to breeze past that,

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<v Speaker 2>but we have a history with Molly, we can start there.

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<v Speaker 5>Because that was like the first time ever I got

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<v Speaker 5>noticed for doing this. It was incredible. It was a

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<v Speaker 5>while ago, man, but my first event, not knowing what

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<v Speaker 5>to expect, just there to help your dad, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and where our merch and here comes everybody. And I

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<v Speaker 5>meet Molly at the tent and she's just, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>this light in her tent, doing her thing. And He's like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my gosh, I know who you are. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even know if I know who I am,

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<v Speaker 5>And man, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just kind of wanted to cry.

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<v Speaker 5>It was. It was a moment, that's for sure. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure you remember it similarly and also very differently.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I knew you all were going to be

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<v Speaker 4>at the Heart Festival in medbein North Carolina, which is

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<v Speaker 4>less than an hour from me. And I've been sharing

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<v Speaker 4>my art at festivals and events for the past couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years, and so I got in touch with the

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<v Speaker 4>Heart Festival folks and let them know I would love

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<v Speaker 4>to bring my art to your event to share with

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<v Speaker 4>the crowds that will be gathering. I think there will

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<v Speaker 4>be some residents of what people see in my work

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<v Speaker 4>and what they are here to talk about. And so

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<v Speaker 4>they said, yeah, come on out. You can set up

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<v Speaker 4>a booth so you can do some live painting while

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<v Speaker 4>talks are going on. And I got there and set

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<v Speaker 4>up the booth and just kind of as soon as

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<v Speaker 4>I saw Alex and Chris walking around, I was like, oh, boy,

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<v Speaker 4>there they are. Because again I've been listening to the

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<v Speaker 4>podcast since like episode three, and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>episode you all were on at this point, but this

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<v Speaker 4>was one of the first in person gatherings where you

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<v Speaker 4>know your community, you could start to come out and

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<v Speaker 4>let you know that that we appreciate you and what

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<v Speaker 4>is that you have to share. So yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 4>great going up to you and being like, Hi, I'm Mollie,

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<v Speaker 4>You're Hi, I'm Alex. And then I got to say

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<v Speaker 4>I just let you know that I am a big

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<v Speaker 4>fan of BLEDSOE said so, and then from there it

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<v Speaker 4>was just we were friends and we got to hang

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<v Speaker 4>out periodically throughout that day, sitting in on some of

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<v Speaker 4>the talks and you know, getting to connect with all

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<v Speaker 4>these folks that had traveled out just to meet your

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<v Speaker 4>dad just to hear the things that he had to say,

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<v Speaker 4>and then to do a little skywatching after the event.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it was. It was an amazing day.

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<v Speaker 5>Now a little sky watching under two enormous trees. Hey

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<v Speaker 5>and make it work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. Yeah, that's an amazing story because like what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hearing from that is that you had the boldness and

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<v Speaker 2>the courage to approach the people running the festival and

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<v Speaker 2>shoot your shot and say, hey, look this is my art,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I do, this is what I stand for.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to be a part of the event. And obvious,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm willing to bet this is how it went. They

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<v Speaker 2>saw your art and they're like, Okay, you know, come

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<v Speaker 2>on down. This is amazing, just like everybody does when

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<v Speaker 2>they see your art, because it's amazing. It's very powerful

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<v Speaker 2>and magical. Do you ever get the sense that sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>because of this really profound and majestic art that you're making,

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<v Speaker 2>has given you a magic access card that takes you

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<v Speaker 2>to places you never thought you would have access to.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's a really cool way of putting it. And yes,

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<v Speaker 4>most certainly I have been blessed to come into contact

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<v Speaker 4>with all kinds of folks and experiences ever since I

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<v Speaker 4>started following the call of the Art to call of

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<v Speaker 4>the art, and my practice continues to maintain its momentum

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<v Speaker 4>from continuing to cross paths with certain types of kindred folk.

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<v Speaker 4>And so one of the areas that I've been stepping

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<v Speaker 4>into growth wise is being proactive and letting people know

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<v Speaker 4>this is what I have to offer. Certainly, as artists,

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<v Speaker 4>we can be on the lookout for opportunities coming our way,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's very useful to have the ability to approach

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<v Speaker 4>someone and to be prepared for the fact that they

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<v Speaker 4>might say no, but to just let them know, this

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<v Speaker 4>is what I want to bring to your event. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think that it would elevate what it is that

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<v Speaker 4>you're trying to do. I think it would be relevant

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<v Speaker 4>twitter is that you're trying to do and now and

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<v Speaker 4>then people will say, yes, we hadn't thought about this,

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<v Speaker 4>but this sounds great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was one of those occasions where, yeah, those guys,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, this was their first time doing a festival

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<v Speaker 4>of this nature, and then they hadn't planned to include

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<v Speaker 4>a visual artist. But being proactive worked out for all

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<v Speaker 4>of us in that sense, and then they're great folks.

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<v Speaker 4>Bob Hart and all the folks at the Heart Center there,

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<v Speaker 4>they're doing some really cool things and just wanting to

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<v Speaker 4>bring people together and draw more focus to these ideas

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<v Speaker 4>that were being explored that day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's awesome. I love that. I remember when when

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<v Speaker 2>you guys first met. Obviously I wasn't there, right, but

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<v Speaker 2>Alex came back. He was like, man, it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many cool people, and he's like going on

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<v Speaker 2>the list and he's like, and there is this this

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<v Speaker 2>this artist there, Molly Chopin. And I remember looking up

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<v Speaker 2>your Instagram and being like, oh my god, this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like Alex Gray type stuff. Right, That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying in my head, not having met you yet,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't I think I messaged you or you

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<v Speaker 2>messaged me. Like we we started talking before we met

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<v Speaker 2>in person. Do you remember how that went down?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it might have been through the Discord. It

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<v Speaker 4>might have just been through through initially connecting on discord

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<v Speaker 4>in the community chats that you all have been hosting.

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<v Speaker 4>And then yeah, we started coming into contact more just

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<v Speaker 4>through Instagram, and yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, and then it was like, uh, I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we started seeing each other in person, at the festivals

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like the rest of history. But I remember

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<v Speaker 2>seeing your art and just being like, Wow, this is amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>and in my head I was like, this literally reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me of Alex Gray. This is like visionary art. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're comfortable with it, maybe at some

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<v Speaker 2>point we could talk about why the whole Alex Gray

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<v Speaker 2>thing there is a little weird what you have done

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<v Speaker 2>and where you've been and how that comes into the fold.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we get into all that, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>go back and learn more about when you realized that

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<v Speaker 2>you had a gift with art, and like, more so

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<v Speaker 2>what it means to be an artist to you, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And also what I'm curious about is because you're obviously

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<v Speaker 2>a very spiritual person, You're you're very tapped in I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>your art is so I would say, you know, metaphysical. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, what does it mean to you to

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<v Speaker 2>channel this into your art? You know, like, let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>just dig into it. Yeah. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 2>say it in an eloquent way, but I think you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right on. Yeah, Well, I've always gravitated towards visual

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<v Speaker 4>art pretty much when I was a kid, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I just loved getting down with some paper mark and

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<v Speaker 4>crans and letting the imagination flow through. And so from

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<v Speaker 4>an early age on, I was given that feedback, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you're a great artist. You make some really nice pictures.

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<v Speaker 6>Here, keep it up.

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<v Speaker 4>And so, yeah, from an early age on, it's been

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<v Speaker 4>in my life. But even though that creative spark was

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<v Speaker 4>pretty well encouraged by a lot of the folks that

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<v Speaker 4>was surrounded by, I was a bit discouraged from following

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<v Speaker 4>when I could. But you know, really it being more

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<v Speaker 4>And it was a day in which I just took

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<v Speaker 4>schooling were a bit like non serious effects, covering everything

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<v Speaker 4>in sparkles, using very bright colors. But that's where my

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<v Speaker 4>this day I experienced this flow state and uh, this

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<v Speaker 4>is actually the painting that emerged from that day. Oh really, wow,

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<v Speaker 4>up those colors, covering this being in sparkles.

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<v Speaker 2>Of glare here, I'm trying to get it good. So

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<v Speaker 2>that yeah, here, there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>There, yep, this is what came through, and I felt transformed.

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<v Speaker 4>At the end of this day, I felt like I

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<v Speaker 4>that I never had before. And pretty much a few

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<v Speaker 4>of that divorce was a time of great healing for

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<v Speaker 4>me of you know, needing to process what I had

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<v Speaker 4>that had led me into that situation, and so painting

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<v Speaker 4>was the number one means through which I was able

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<v Speaker 4>to go through that processing. And it was like like

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<v Speaker 4>when this came through, it was like a channel opened

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<v Speaker 4>in me that had not yet been opened. And then

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<v Speaker 4>once it had been opened, I just wanted to keep

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<v Speaker 4>going back to that place as much as I could,

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<v Speaker 4>because it felt like I was receiving these senses of

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna be okay, you know, and senses of empowerment

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<v Speaker 4>and of just self love in that place that I

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<v Speaker 4>just started painting and painting and painting pretty much from

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<v Speaker 4>twenty thirteen onward. And now it's still that same place

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<v Speaker 4>that I go to when I paint. It's like that

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<v Speaker 4>channel that opened or that window that opened, it's now like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there's there these inner muscles that have been

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<v Speaker 4>activated and exercise too, and so like I can sit

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<v Speaker 4>down at easel with a blank canvas, and even if

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's going to happen when I go

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<v Speaker 4>to sit down. Because of the exercise and of that intuition,

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<v Speaker 4>I have this sense of trust of something's going to

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<v Speaker 4>come through, that needs to come through, that wants to

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<v Speaker 4>come through. And oftentimes it is, you know, a message

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<v Speaker 4>for me of something that I really need to perhaps

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<v Speaker 4>receive in a moment. But then when it is transmitted

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<v Speaker 4>into this vision that gets shared with others, I receive

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<v Speaker 4>the feedback of others being like, oh, I feel that

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<v Speaker 4>I relate to that as well, so and that's been

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<v Speaker 4>a big motivator and keeping going.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that way about a lot of please.

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<v Speaker 6>Surprise, I'm here everyone, Yeah, I'm here. Okay, anyway, what

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<v Speaker 6>a graceful interesting I just felt really awkward. But I've

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<v Speaker 6>been dying to talk. I've been dying, but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>nobody introduced me. But it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a two guests today.

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<v Speaker 6>I've been dying to ask you, Mollie. First of all,

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<v Speaker 6>it's almost like psychic right when these things, like you said,

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<v Speaker 6>like come through, like you're like you're hearing them from

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<v Speaker 6>somewhere and they're coming through you and you have to

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<v Speaker 6>get it out. That was a really cool way to

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<v Speaker 6>hear it. But I wanted to know, like who do

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<v Speaker 6>you know who this person is? Is this just something

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<v Speaker 6>that you felt or is it a version of you?

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<v Speaker 6>Or is it? Like I was just curious to know

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<v Speaker 6>who it is because I've been staring at her for

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<v Speaker 6>like five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, thank you for us it's a beautiful page.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, because I'm like, dang, I need to know more now.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, this is not a depiction of well, well,

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<v Speaker 4>it started off of a photo from a magazine. It

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<v Speaker 4>was an advertisement I think, you know, for something that

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<v Speaker 4>I just appreciated the expression on the face, the form,

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<v Speaker 4>and so like, yeah, I couldn't tell you who the

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<v Speaker 4>person actually was, but when I started painting on it,

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much it was just a sketch with like the

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<v Speaker 4>lips filled in, none of the colors and effects. Otherwise.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just interesting because it's like I was just wondering

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<v Speaker 6>if that like because this woman almost in a way

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<v Speaker 6>like had empowered you in a way, which is just

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<v Speaker 6>like a very interesting relationship well in between you and

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<v Speaker 6>this art. Even though you are the creator, it's still

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<v Speaker 6>now a separate entity or a separate being of its own.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's like interesting that this is what inspired you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, to make that leap.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, and I do kind of consider this to

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<v Speaker 4>be like a personification of that energy. And then when

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<v Speaker 4>coming into contact with the Bledstos and your story of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, ultimately this this phenomenon being connected with the

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<v Speaker 4>divine feminine, but it affected how I perceived this. It

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<v Speaker 4>made me feel like, well, this was perhaps a kind

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<v Speaker 4>of moment when going through some of the shadowy stuff

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<v Speaker 4>that I've faced on my trajectory, I was blessed to

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<v Speaker 4>have an encounter with the divine in this form. You're

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<v Speaker 4>comforted through the form of the paint.

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<v Speaker 6>Does the painting have a name?

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<v Speaker 4>It's called seer as er.

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<v Speaker 5>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask this. This was coming in my

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<v Speaker 2>mind very like I just feel like I have to

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<v Speaker 2>know before this, before this encounter that, as you say

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<v Speaker 2>very beautifully and eloquently, that it opened this channel. What

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<v Speaker 2>kind of things were you painting? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I was. I was still painting, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like realistic sometimes with like a little bit of spin

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<v Speaker 4>of funky surrealism brought into the mix, you know, still

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<v Speaker 4>exploring the maaginal realm a little bit, but just not

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<v Speaker 4>accessing that that same level of intuition that I was

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<v Speaker 4>and so like, Yeah, I really enjoyed doing like a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of portraits of musicians that I love, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just portraits of friends and family, scenes in nature, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you know, it's just been more over time that

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<v Speaker 4>these these spiritual principles have been wanting to come through

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<v Speaker 4>more as that's becoming a more integral aspect of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of your art it seems to have these

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<v Speaker 6>like sparkles about them and what is so what is

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<v Speaker 6>if I can ask what is that? Is that like

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<v Speaker 6>a symbol for something like magical or why do you

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<v Speaker 6>add those in there? I'm curious?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for asking that. Yeah, you know, I've thought

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<v Speaker 4>about that and just even sometimes connecting dots with how

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<v Speaker 4>like when I used to be taken to the hardware

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<v Speaker 4>store as a kid, I love going down that light

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<v Speaker 4>aisle and just looking up at all the lights, like, ah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think you know, I think they are to me

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<v Speaker 4>symbolic of the like force that does exist behind everything.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's beautiful, like a life energy. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 4>that that idea of we are all starlight.

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<v Speaker 4>Is the source from which everything has sprun for we

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<v Speaker 4>are starlar.

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<v Speaker 2>Brilliant cloak card. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, and you know I can also connect the

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<v Speaker 4>dots with connect the dots with. When I was in

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<v Speaker 4>my early twenties, I experienced the art of Yawi Kusami

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<v Speaker 4>for the Yawi Kusama excuse me, Yaoi Kusama for the

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<v Speaker 4>first time. And this is a woman artist who does

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<v Speaker 4>painting but also does installation art, and so she's become

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<v Speaker 4>famous for these infinity rooms that she creates where the walls,

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<v Speaker 4>the ceiling, the floor are all mirrored. And when you

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<v Speaker 4>step into these rooms, she'll have objects or lights in

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<v Speaker 4>the room and you feel like you're in this infinite space.

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<v Speaker 4>And so she had one of these rooms where she

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<v Speaker 4>had lights strands hanging from the ceiling and so that

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<v Speaker 4>when you stepped into the mirrored infinity room effect, you

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<v Speaker 4>felt like you were in the middle of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 4>with just stars and galaxies around you. And there was

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<v Speaker 4>something about that moment which I was standing in one

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<v Speaker 4>can recognize how that feeling that was inspired to me

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<v Speaker 4>from being in that room is something that I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to convey through paint too. And then when I've heard

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<v Speaker 4>your Dad talk about like the symbolism of the circle,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know how that is the shape that that

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<v Speaker 4>shows up in so many forms in this reality, and

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<v Speaker 4>it is kind of the shape that that is the

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<v Speaker 4>building blocks of the cosmos, you know, on both the

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<v Speaker 4>micro and the macro levels. So there's something too about

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<v Speaker 4>that that draws me to dot dot dot dot dot

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<v Speaker 2>Spitten, I'm just blown away. Yeah, I mean, okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've we've never I have never had the pleasure of

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<v Speaker 2>really getting to set before today and sit and just

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<v Speaker 2>just one on one, just pick your brain because we're

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<v Speaker 2>always meeting in a festival setting, and it's just coming

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<v Speaker 2>to me right now that, like you, as visually artistic

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<v Speaker 2>as you are, verbally linguistically you are too. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, but yeah, yeah, I was thinking like what

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<v Speaker 2>I get from Molly honestly, and maybe you'll appreciate this.

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<v Speaker 2>But have you seen the movie Contact? Yes? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>remember at the end when Jodie Foster spoiler alert, amazing movie.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have not seen the nineteen nineties movie Contact

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<v Speaker 2>with like Jodie Foster, Matthew McConaughey and some others that

423
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<v Speaker 2>I can't recall at the moment. Go watch it right now.

424
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<v Speaker 2>It is genuinely one of the very best movies depicting

425
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<v Speaker 2>the reality of interacting with the phenomenon anyway, so spoiler alert.

426
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<v Speaker 2>At the end, she goes through the wormhole and then

427
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<v Speaker 2>she's like experiencing this state of ascension and she's like

428
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<v Speaker 2>communicating with the beings and all this information is like

429
00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:50.599
<v Speaker 2>flashing into her mind and she's like in this higher

430
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:53.720
<v Speaker 2>awakened state of being and she's just like, I get

431
00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:56.240
<v Speaker 2>it now. It would take a poet. It would take

432
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<v Speaker 2>a poet to understand what I'm seeing. And that's kind

433
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<v Speaker 2>of like what I'm getting from you, Like, you know,

434
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<v Speaker 2>because if it's okay with you, I want to show

435
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:10.039
<v Speaker 2>this next piece, Yes, but particularly something about your art

436
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:13.200
<v Speaker 2>that has drawn me, and we've been talking about it tonight,

437
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:15.559
<v Speaker 2>as you can see on the Can they see it, Alex?

438
00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:19.200
<v Speaker 2>The language part of and I'm gonna explain this piece

439
00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:24.240
<v Speaker 2>or maybe you should, but yeah, let's let's do that. Yeah,

440
00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm the very loving and approving critic. But just like

441
00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:34.079
<v Speaker 2>the language, Molly has this style where there's this like

442
00:24:35.319 --> 00:24:42.480
<v Speaker 2>mystical language transcending the border and like into a lot

443
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<v Speaker 2>of her paintings, and it's just making me think, like,

444
00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:47.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, the way that you speak and the way

445
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:51.240
<v Speaker 2>you articulate these concepts and the way you articulate them visually,

446
00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:57.240
<v Speaker 2>it's like you've it's awesome. Anyway, Anyway, I would love

447
00:24:57.279 --> 00:24:59.160
<v Speaker 2>to go into this because this brings us to an

448
00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:01.920
<v Speaker 2>amazing story that you were a part of.

449
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

450
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, absolutely.

451
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<v Speaker 4>So this painting is called Not Birds and if you

452
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<v Speaker 4>were at Riverfest in October you might know why it

453
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<v Speaker 4>is called this. And it's a painting that I actually

454
00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:19.559
<v Speaker 4>started a few years ago. And this is an intuitive

455
00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:22.599
<v Speaker 4>painting where when I started, I don't know what the

456
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.119
<v Speaker 4>end product is going to be. It's it's stepping up

457
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<v Speaker 4>to the canvas, trusting that something will come through, and

458
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<v Speaker 4>then just discerning well, what is the next step, what

459
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:32.240
<v Speaker 4>is this? What is the starting point? What is the

460
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.000
<v Speaker 4>next step, and then going for the ride really quickly.

461
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<v Speaker 6>Did you know you were going to be painting this

462
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<v Speaker 6>or you had absolutely no idea what you were going

463
00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:41.000
<v Speaker 6>to be painting, Like, did you know you were going

464
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<v Speaker 6>to be painting the Not Birds or nope, okay no, interesting, So.

465
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<v Speaker 2>It just became that ye hold it for you, sure,

466
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<v Speaker 2>thank you.

467
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<v Speaker 4>When I started it, I had the moon in mind,

468
00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:56.599
<v Speaker 4>and then just all of this abstract patterning that is

469
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<v Speaker 4>behind these creatures that are seen here, and you know,

470
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<v Speaker 4>I just reached a point with it where I wasn't

471
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<v Speaker 4>quite sure it was going to happen next a couple

472
00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:09.960
<v Speaker 4>of years ago, and so it was in my studio.

473
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<v Speaker 4>You know, I oftentimes have several paintings going on at

474
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 4>the same time, and some get done within a few weeks,

475
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.319
<v Speaker 4>a few months, some a few years. So this was

476
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:21.279
<v Speaker 4>one that was waiting for a few years. But what

477
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:25.200
<v Speaker 4>ended up happening was I was able to go out

478
00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:28.279
<v Speaker 4>to Riverfest to meet up with the Bledsoaw crew for

479
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:31.359
<v Speaker 4>the first time at a group skywatching event this past

480
00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:36.079
<v Speaker 4>October outside of Heart Festival, and we witnessed a miracle

481
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:38.599
<v Speaker 4>on the beach that Sunday night. You know, we were

482
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<v Speaker 4>all of us gathered, the crowd of two hundred and

483
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:45.079
<v Speaker 4>fifty so of us are on the beach and we're

484
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<v Speaker 4>seeing all of these orbs flying overhead, and some of

485
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:51.759
<v Speaker 4>them start flashing at us and flaring up at us,

486
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<v Speaker 4>and it's just you know, outstanding experience that alone. But

487
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<v Speaker 4>then we're standing there watching this orb coming out that

488
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Chris seniors pointing out, and as all of us are

489
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.519
<v Speaker 4>looking at this orb coming at us from overhead, come

490
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:09.559
<v Speaker 4>flying what I can only describe as these these forced

491
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:13.400
<v Speaker 4>spheares of energy that were way closer to us as

492
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:16.160
<v Speaker 4>a crowd than the orbs that we'd been seeing thus far.

493
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<v Speaker 4>And as these translucent yet somehow glowing spheres of energy

494
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:26.640
<v Speaker 4>fly over us, all standing together. Suddenly their shape changes

495
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.359
<v Speaker 4>and then they flare out. They're no longer spheres, but

496
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.839
<v Speaker 4>just these these amorphous shapes in the sky. And then

497
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:37.160
<v Speaker 4>as we're all looking and they're flying overhead, so they

498
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.240
<v Speaker 4>coalesce back together into spheres. They fly off into the distance,

499
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 4>but they don't disappear off in the distance. They dematerialize

500
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 4>only a few moments after they flew overhead. And then

501
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.000
<v Speaker 4>everyone's on the beach just like, did you see that?

502
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

503
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:56.440
<v Speaker 4>Then some folks were wondering, well, wait a second, we're

504
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:58.640
<v Speaker 4>those birds. They kind of move like birds. And then

505
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:01.119
<v Speaker 4>all of these folks you're like, no, no, no, those

506
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:05.519
<v Speaker 4>are not birds, not birds, not birds. And so that

507
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:10.240
<v Speaker 4>is what we have here celebration of what was that

508
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:14.599
<v Speaker 4>moment when these force spheres of energy flew over ahead.

509
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:17.759
<v Speaker 4>That just defied anything that I've experienced in my life

510
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:24.119
<v Speaker 4>thus far as supernatural sighting wise, And so I chose

511
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:26.720
<v Speaker 4>to depict them with this form that is a little bit.

512
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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

513
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.599
<v Speaker 4>I guess owl inspired because that has been you know,

514
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.920
<v Speaker 4>an integral part of the Bledsoe's story and mine too. Actually,

515
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.119
<v Speaker 4>the Owls have been hanging out with me for a while,

516
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:39.079
<v Speaker 4>even before I came into contact with your story.

517
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:41.319
<v Speaker 6>But uh, and did you watch that episode with Mike Clellon?

518
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, owl guy?

519
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:44.640
<v Speaker 6>Did you know about him before? No?

520
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wow, I think it lives pretty near here. I

521
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>was trying to get in close to the camera over there,

522
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>but it looks like it was like not white balanced

523
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:53.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of washed out. So maybe what we

524
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:57.559
<v Speaker 2>can do is we can because it's kind of really

525
00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:59.839
<v Speaker 2>hard to see the detail of this through the video. Yes,

526
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:01.759
<v Speaker 2>we could drop like an image of it at least

527
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 2>when we bring it up. Does it have to be

528
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:05.359
<v Speaker 2>the whole time, But like, I would really like people

529
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:08.079
<v Speaker 2>to see this painting, just even if it's just like

530
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>a moment they can pause it and look.

531
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And I'm happy to share files any type that

532
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:13.480
<v Speaker 4>you all need.

533
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:16.480
<v Speaker 2>That'd be great. Yeah, but this is a profound painting

534
00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:18.359
<v Speaker 2>to me. I wanted to get close and see how

535
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:20.119
<v Speaker 2>it turned out in the camera, but it's it's hard

536
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.160
<v Speaker 2>to make out the the details. You're doing a good job. Oh,

537
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>thank you, Bryan.

538
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 6>You yeah, that's exactly what you look like.

539
00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. You're rocking at thank you. But I just

540
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:35.759
<v Speaker 2>love that you know the language that that keeps it.

541
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Like I told you before we started filming, it reminded

542
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>me of Elvis from Lord of the Ring Yees. You know.

543
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 2>You you described what it is to you and and

544
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:46.160
<v Speaker 2>and that's true, but I think it's all the same thing.

545
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I think it's all the if I could give my interpretation, yes,

546
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:56.759
<v Speaker 2>it's to me, it's like you are a seer. That's

547
00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>why you had your profound transformation when you I mean

548
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:02.319
<v Speaker 2>even you show up and you've got the third eye thing,

549
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>and you know that's like so signal.

550
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:05.119
<v Speaker 6>Is that an Alex Gray piece?

551
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:06.079
<v Speaker 4>This is Alex Gray?

552
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a shout out to the wonderful, magical Alex Gray.

553
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>And I would love to get into that. And yes,

554
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:17.519
<v Speaker 2>of course we love our Alex's. But the notion that

555
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:22.119
<v Speaker 2>I that is like unfolding about you to me, the

556
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>more time I spend with you, is that you are

557
00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:28.039
<v Speaker 2>a seer or more or less like like an oracle

558
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:31.039
<v Speaker 2>from from as you were talking about earlier, like the

559
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:37.519
<v Speaker 2>etheric realm, and you've been burdened with this beautiful but

560
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:44.640
<v Speaker 2>heavy burden of translating these beautiful mystical heaven escapes or

561
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:46.400
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is that you call them. But to me,

562
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:48.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot of your paintings look like what I would

563
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 2>imagine is heaven, you know, just these magical divine images.

564
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:58.799
<v Speaker 2>It's it's like a higher level of conceptualization that is

565
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 2>so beyond fathom. How do I process this? How do

566
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.279
<v Speaker 2>I imagine this? How do I interpret this? What does

567
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:10.519
<v Speaker 2>this mean? There's not many people that can paint like this.

568
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you're aware of that.

569
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:17.400
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of visionary painters out in this world

570
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 4>actually doing some pretty magical stuff. I thank you for Well,

571
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 4>I haven't met what you said, but I am actually

572
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:29.039
<v Speaker 4>just very blessed to know many wonderful visual artists that

573
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 4>are taking inspiration from similar realms. And I've been blessed

574
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 4>to have some wonderful teachers along my journey too.

575
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I would say to that, though,

576
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>that I'm a podcaster and I know a lot of podcasters,

577
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:44.240
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And you're a visionary painter,

578
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.319
<v Speaker 2>therefore you know a lot of visionary painters. But that

579
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:48.839
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make you any less amazing.

580
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:49.400
<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

581
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. And what you're doing in

582
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.119
<v Speaker 2>the gift that you have, and it's incredible, And like.

583
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.599
<v Speaker 6>I'm having a boss staring at all of them. I know,

584
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:00.880
<v Speaker 6>by the way they're scattered in this room, all work,

585
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 6>and I just keep staring at all of them because

586
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 6>they're so different. Yeah, it's so distinct in your style.

587
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.039
<v Speaker 6>You have a very distinct style, but yet all of

588
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.680
<v Speaker 6>the colors that are used are so different and they

589
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.640
<v Speaker 6>mesh so well. Yeah, I mean it's cool. It's one

590
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.519
<v Speaker 6>thing seeing it online, which I've always thought you were

591
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.000
<v Speaker 6>an amazing artist. We have pieces of your work, but

592
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.160
<v Speaker 6>then seeing the ones in person is just it's different.

593
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 6>It is different.

594
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like that one right there.

595
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:32.720
<v Speaker 6>I know, I keep staring at the white line.

596
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we need to show that one too, we

597
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.480
<v Speaker 2>do so again, I keep coming back to the language thing.

598
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:39.680
<v Speaker 2>You just you remind me of Jodie Foster from Contact.

599
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Like I can tell you right now, I am not

600
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.279
<v Speaker 2>an artist. I hear sounds, you know, I do drums.

601
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.559
<v Speaker 2>I hear rhythm, boom boom boom boom boom sounds, and

602
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:51.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of a mathematical numeric thing. When it comes to

603
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 2>visual stuff, I'm like, I was a disaster in art

604
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 2>class in school. I cannot draw, I mean arm or something. Yeah,

605
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.839
<v Speaker 2>I did it, which made it worse because I broke

606
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>my right arm. And then for our class I had

607
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:08.799
<v Speaker 2>to draw my left arm, which was anyway.

608
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 6>But you didn't have to do pottery or anything. No,

609
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:12.440
<v Speaker 6>I did with one arm.

610
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:14.160
<v Speaker 2>No, that was freshman year.

611
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:14.839
<v Speaker 6>That's just what I meant.

612
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:16.799
<v Speaker 2>I broke freshman year of art. I was in art

613
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:17.279
<v Speaker 2>for three.

614
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:18.920
<v Speaker 6>Years as long as he didn't have to do with anything.

615
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 2>No, not in that class. But anyway, it's just like

616
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:28.200
<v Speaker 2>I I can't like, I can't imagine. I can't fathom

617
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:29.359
<v Speaker 2>creating something like this.

618
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<v Speaker 4>Oh it's next level, No, thank you. I feel the

619
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:35.240
<v Speaker 4>same way about musicians.

620
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 2>You know.

621
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:38.200
<v Speaker 4>When I see the work that musicians do, it's it's

622
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:42.359
<v Speaker 4>a parallel process of you know, layering these sounds, finding harmonies,

623
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.279
<v Speaker 4>making all the choices. But but how do you guys

624
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 4>do it? I don't know.

625
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get that. I do get that, and you know,

626
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:55.319
<v Speaker 2>it's the same thing that that I feel about art,

627
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, and this this, but the thing is about

628
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.839
<v Speaker 2>your art is there's this theme that keeps coming through

629
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:05.640
<v Speaker 2>of this there's this mystical language that you know, maybe

630
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.800
<v Speaker 2>it's fiction, maybe it's symbolic of something that's real, it

631
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:11.880
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. It keeps coming through and it's important to you.

632
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<v Speaker 6>And that's channeled.

633
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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's it's what I call the language of flow state.

634
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<v Speaker 4>You know, as we were talking about before, so some

635
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<v Speaker 4>people would call this light language or light code, but

636
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<v Speaker 4>I like to call it the language of flow state

637
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 4>because that is the state that I'm in when I'm

638
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<v Speaker 4>creating it. When I was teaching art, I really got into, uh,

639
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:34.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, left side of the brain, right side of

640
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:38.239
<v Speaker 4>the brain, ideas about how each different one functions, and

641
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.599
<v Speaker 4>really connected with this concept of the left side of

642
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:45.159
<v Speaker 4>our brain or more scientific, analytical, logical side being you know,

643
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:48.119
<v Speaker 4>the one that's kind of god its hands on a

644
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 4>steering wheels most of the time for a lot of us.

645
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.960
<v Speaker 4>But the right side of the brain are intuitive, creative, visual,

646
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 4>spatial oriented side of the brain. That's that's where flow

647
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 4>state is experienced, and so when I'm creating this language,

648
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.199
<v Speaker 4>I am purposely shutting off the left side of my brain,

649
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:12.679
<v Speaker 4>which is inclined to want to create familiar looking lines

650
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:16.039
<v Speaker 4>and shapes to represent perhaps language that that I know,

651
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:18.880
<v Speaker 4>that side of the brain's getting shut off. Right side

652
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 4>of the brain is getting activated, and I'm just purely

653
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 4>listening to that intuition, instinct telling me what shape wants

654
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 4>to come next. Yeah, and sometimes I've experimented with putting

655
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:33.079
<v Speaker 4>a little more intention into the marks of creating more

656
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 4>of like a you know, a specific scigul for a

657
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:40.519
<v Speaker 4>particular word or energy that I am wanting to imprint

658
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:44.719
<v Speaker 4>within the painting. But more often it is just accessing

659
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 4>the flow zone and letting it come through.

660
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:53.280
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. It's obviously something is like have you seen

661
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind? Yes, you know,

662
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.719
<v Speaker 2>when he's like had this profound experience and Odin, we're

663
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:05.639
<v Speaker 2>having a conversation here, buddy. My cats are going crazy

664
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:06.119
<v Speaker 2>right now.

665
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:09.440
<v Speaker 4>But they both want to be in your life.

666
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.039
<v Speaker 2>The actually Odin wanted to be in your life, but

667
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.000
<v Speaker 2>you were talking and you didn't notice. Yeah, he probably

668
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:18.360
<v Speaker 2>would come on. But anyway, so like Close encounters are

669
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<v Speaker 2>the third kind. He has this you can just pick

670
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:24.280
<v Speaker 2>him up. He has this like crazy experience and you

671
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.519
<v Speaker 2>know he's like making the mashed potato. That's kind of like,

672
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:32.679
<v Speaker 2>that's that's what your art reminds me of that. You know,

673
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:37.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe in the subtle level of consciousness, your mind is

674
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 2>connecting to something that is not ordinarily being interpreted.

675
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:47.960
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a really cool scene that that you

676
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:51.119
<v Speaker 4>bring up in considering what is going on here.

677
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:52.639
<v Speaker 2>Something's going on.

678
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:55.400
<v Speaker 4>I haven't thought about like that scene in relation to

679
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:57.440
<v Speaker 4>what I do, But now that I'm thinking about it,

680
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:00.519
<v Speaker 4>I am totally those folks wanting to car things.

681
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:01.159
<v Speaker 6>Out of potatoes.

682
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 4>A lot of time that I'm sitting down to paint,

683
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 4>it is it's like something has to come through. You

684
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.280
<v Speaker 4>sometimes just have this urge that cannot be ignored, and

685
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 4>it will only be alleviated once it's put out somewhere,

686
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:13.760
<v Speaker 4>whether it be just a quick sketch of Okay, we're

687
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 4>gonna make this, no painting later, or we got to

688
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:18.000
<v Speaker 4>get to that blank canvas now, you know.

689
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:20.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So do you just keep a lot of blank

690
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.840
<v Speaker 6>canvases or do you kind of like you're like, okay,

691
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:25.679
<v Speaker 6>step one I know, I have to buy a canvas,

692
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:27.480
<v Speaker 6>and then you kind of meditate on it.

693
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:32.519
<v Speaker 4>We're like, yeah, I try to have some on hand always,

694
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:35.639
<v Speaker 4>and then you know, sometimes it is just that that

695
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.719
<v Speaker 4>idea comes through and then I know, okay, this is

696
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:40.719
<v Speaker 4>the size and shape of the canvas that we need

697
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:41.519
<v Speaker 4>to acquire for this.

698
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and you.

699
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:48.519
<v Speaker 4>Know, I tend to work more in one offs than series.

700
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 4>I'm actually looking to grow into focusing more on series,

701
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:56.239
<v Speaker 4>where you know, a singular idea is perhaps explored in

702
00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:59.440
<v Speaker 4>multiple ways visually. But a lot of my works have

703
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.039
<v Speaker 4>just been and uh, you know that one message that

704
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:05.199
<v Speaker 4>wants to come through, and it does, and then you know,

705
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Speaker 4>it's just a waiting for that next inspiration to arrive.

706
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 4>And it's not necessarily trying to repeat a particular style

707
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:16.519
<v Speaker 4>or scheme or idea. It's just wanting to keep listening

708
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:20.760
<v Speaker 4>to whatever it is that I'm in collaboration with. And

709
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:23.920
<v Speaker 4>so yeah, that that is why I think you can

710
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:27.960
<v Speaker 4>see a bit of like diversity of style and themes

711
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:29.880
<v Speaker 4>amongst my work.

712
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:32.199
<v Speaker 6>Have you ever like thought about if you were to

713
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:34.719
<v Speaker 6>do a series, what what it would be, or like,

714
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:36.719
<v Speaker 6>are you drawn to a specific theme?

715
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:41.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right now, actually I have initiated a skywatcher series.

716
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:46.079
<v Speaker 4>Really yeah, that was not planned, everybody.

717
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:48.400
<v Speaker 6>That was not planned. I had no idea she was

718
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 6>gonna say that's crazy.

719
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:53.519
<v Speaker 4>It's and and actually, yeah, the one of the works

720
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:57.159
<v Speaker 4>in progress at home right now is a two foot

721
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:02.559
<v Speaker 4>by three foot canvas that taking inspiration from our beach

722
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:07.559
<v Speaker 4>sky watching where you know, you got some group shots

723
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.440
<v Speaker 4>of us, you know, we were out there and and

724
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:11.880
<v Speaker 4>like when I was out there at Riverfest, one of

725
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:14.760
<v Speaker 4>those group shots was great because as we were all

726
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.280
<v Speaker 4>still gathered up, sightings started to happen. And so there's

727
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 4>this great photo that you took of like everyone's still

728
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.440
<v Speaker 4>kind of clustered up, but you got all these people

729
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 4>pointing up at the sky. I know, it so cool.

730
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:31.400
<v Speaker 4>I've taken some inspiration from that photo and depicting a

731
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:34.880
<v Speaker 4>scene of the beach with just the crowd pointing up,

732
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:38.840
<v Speaker 4>everyone in silhouette form, you know, like and then yeah,

733
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:42.440
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna bring into the sky just as much inspiration

734
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.199
<v Speaker 4>as can be depicted of of what it feels like

735
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:50.440
<v Speaker 4>to witness the orbs and the not birds and.

736
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:51.840
<v Speaker 6>And not to like distract from that, but like you're

737
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 6>talking about the pointing and for the first time ever

738
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:58.079
<v Speaker 6>at this last Azalea fest that we had just had.

739
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:01.039
<v Speaker 6>Were you at the SkyWatch on Sunday or just Saturday?

740
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:02.559
<v Speaker 4>Sunday was the one I was at.

741
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:05.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and like the lights that were really that got

742
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.960
<v Speaker 6>really bright? Yes, Okay. So I was next to Christinior

743
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:14.920
<v Speaker 6>all night and it was so I was like sobbing

744
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.519
<v Speaker 6>if anybody saw me there, which I've done this five

745
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:20.760
<v Speaker 6>bajillion times, like I have done this and done this

746
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.440
<v Speaker 6>and done this, but for some reason that felt so

747
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:26.199
<v Speaker 6>strong to me because I was next to Christenior and

748
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:28.519
<v Speaker 6>he had his hand up right, which he does that

749
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:30.960
<v Speaker 6>quite often, but that was the first time ever I

750
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:33.480
<v Speaker 6>was feeling empowered and I was like, I want this

751
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:37.880
<v Speaker 6>to happen so bad. I want this to show itself

752
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 6>so bad and flash or just do something dynamic or different,

753
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:45.159
<v Speaker 6>you know, and right whenever we had our hands up

754
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:48.079
<v Speaker 6>and I felt like I was like little baby Yoda

755
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:51.159
<v Speaker 6>with a force or I literally did. And then it

756
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.039
<v Speaker 6>just did that thing where it just exploded, and I

757
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:58.679
<v Speaker 6>literally started sobbing because it felt like so much energy

758
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:01.679
<v Speaker 6>and you wanted it so bad, and then it happened,

759
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 6>and I literally people have it in so much footage.

760
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:08.559
<v Speaker 6>I feel so bad. But I was like, ah, oh

761
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:10.480
<v Speaker 6>my gosh, I can't believe that just happened, and I

762
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:13.480
<v Speaker 6>just burst down into tears. So I like, so the

763
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:17.599
<v Speaker 6>pointing is I almost just wonder is there something to that?

764
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:18.719
<v Speaker 6>I don't know?

765
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I think so it's something that the intention well, yeah,

766
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.480
<v Speaker 2>and the connection. It's just like, I mean, the hand

767
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:26.920
<v Speaker 2>is just an extension of the mind, right, the whole

768
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:29.159
<v Speaker 2>body is just an extension of the mind. Everything is

769
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:30.360
<v Speaker 2>an extension of the mind.

770
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:32.840
<v Speaker 6>And I was just thinking about how like when magic

771
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:37.599
<v Speaker 6>is portrayed oftentime, it's with a wave of a hand,

772
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:41.119
<v Speaker 6>or it's with you know, some form of or like

773
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:44.480
<v Speaker 6>villains and shows might like kind of what you know,

774
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 6>is that physical gesture yes of coming at you or

775
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 6>something I don't know. So it's just like the I

776
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.239
<v Speaker 6>don't know, the pointing. All of that's very powerful. I'm

777
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:56.840
<v Speaker 6>excited to see what that turns into. Thank you. They excited.

778
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's get into another painting, like we have so

779
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:03.639
<v Speaker 2>many in here. Yeah, maybe we've.

780
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 5>Got a quick question for you. Yes, do you have

781
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 5>a favorite or they like children.

782
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:11.840
<v Speaker 4>Love the controversial more of the second thing. Yeah, they

783
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:16.920
<v Speaker 4>are so many. Yeah, each one I got to appreciate

784
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 4>in and of itself for what it is. I guess

785
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.000
<v Speaker 4>when people ask me that question, though, I do point

786
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:28.519
<v Speaker 4>out one in particular, and this is.

787
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I haven't seen this one.

788
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:36.199
<v Speaker 4>Print reproduction of an original painting. The original painting was

789
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:40.719
<v Speaker 4>about twenty two inches by twenty eight inches. But when

790
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:43.239
<v Speaker 4>people ask me the favorite, I go to this one

791
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 4>because this is a depiction of a regional burning man

792
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 4>gathering that used to happen outside of Asheville, North Carolina.

793
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 4>And this is the community that I just hold so

794
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 4>much regard for in terms of, you know, showing me

795
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:02.079
<v Speaker 4>how some humans can be when when we can find

796
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:05.800
<v Speaker 4>ourselves in certain settings where inhibitions can come down, hearts

797
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:08.760
<v Speaker 4>can be open, and people feel safe to be with

798
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 4>each other and to express their their true shiny selves.

799
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:16.159
<v Speaker 4>And so this took fourteen months to create this. It

800
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:18.360
<v Speaker 4>was a it was a commission by a friend who

801
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 4>wanted to celebrate this gathering, and it was commissioned in

802
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.880
<v Speaker 4>mid twenty twenty when you know, we weren't sure if

803
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:26.760
<v Speaker 4>we were going to be able to gather like this again,

804
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:28.960
<v Speaker 4>so many events were canceled that year.

805
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 6>But that was a little moth down there.

806
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:35.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's well, that's a little costumed person wearing some

807
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:39.719
<v Speaker 4>So this was a photo. Well, no, this was this

808
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:43.760
<v Speaker 4>is a real place, Like there's a real place outside

809
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 4>of Asheville called Deer Fields, which is a depiction of

810
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:50.280
<v Speaker 4>And so the landscape is based off of that actual

811
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.800
<v Speaker 4>landscape of a lake with mountains back here and a

812
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:57.280
<v Speaker 4>big open field in front of pavilion. But then all

813
00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:59.639
<v Speaker 4>of the details of the people and the art in

814
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:02.039
<v Speaker 4>the stre ructures and the fire, all these things that

815
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:04.800
<v Speaker 4>you would see at a at a regional burn gathering

816
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 4>where details that I designed into this scene, working from

817
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:12.599
<v Speaker 4>photos from the gathering from over the years. But the

818
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:16.239
<v Speaker 4>details in here are specific to actual people and art

819
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:19.519
<v Speaker 4>works and uh, you know camps that were set up

820
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:25.039
<v Speaker 4>and so these uh, transformational gatherings, these communities that can

821
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:30.519
<v Speaker 4>inspire that level of creative expression and open heartedness are

822
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.440
<v Speaker 4>just one of the favorite things that I found in

823
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:38.000
<v Speaker 4>this life. And you know, I really do celebrate what

824
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:42.400
<v Speaker 4>I perceive to be you all the BLOODSOE said. So

825
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:47.400
<v Speaker 4>community as as cultivating folks in a similar manner as

826
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:49.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, I've now witnessed at two of the festivals

827
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.440
<v Speaker 4>that that you all have hosted a booth at you're

828
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:58.519
<v Speaker 4>inspiring very much a similar level of that safety, open heartedness,

829
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:02.000
<v Speaker 4>let's connect and be our true selves with each other.

830
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:04.000
<v Speaker 6>Well, we feel it too, that's for sure.

831
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:07.360
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. I think it's just like we talked

832
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:11.960
<v Speaker 2>about earlier before recording, that it's we're all broadcasting a

833
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.679
<v Speaker 2>signal to the universe. We've all been through, whether it's

834
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:21.719
<v Speaker 2>some sort of spiritual awakening or rather like traumatic experience

835
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:28.000
<v Speaker 2>therefore a spiritual awakening, something in all of our individual

836
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:31.639
<v Speaker 2>stories that have caused us to just broadcast that signal

837
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.760
<v Speaker 2>to the universe and say, I need to meet people

838
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.320
<v Speaker 2>who are like me so that I can feel less alone.

839
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 2>And I think that there are now a lot of

840
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:43.559
<v Speaker 2>people in the world doing that, and you know, it's

841
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.400
<v Speaker 2>it's bringing us together, and it's the same as that.

842
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:48.159
<v Speaker 2>It's the same as well. I mean, I think it's

843
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:53.679
<v Speaker 2>happening in many in many different settings, you know, and

844
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:57.320
<v Speaker 2>we're just kind of like one of those settings. But

845
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:01.440
<v Speaker 2>it's to me, it's the same setting. It's the same purpose,

846
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 2>same spirit, yeah, exactly, seeking you know, a connection with

847
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:07.440
<v Speaker 2>something higher.

848
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:11.000
<v Speaker 6>But I didn't expect this from the I didn't either.

849
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:13.079
<v Speaker 6>I didn't expect this to cultivate in the way that

850
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 6>it did, honestly, Like I thought it would be this

851
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:19.239
<v Speaker 6>thing where it's like, okay, like meet us here, come

852
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:21.119
<v Speaker 6>get your book signed, and people come by, and then

853
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 6>we never see him again, and then all of a sudden,

854
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:24.840
<v Speaker 6>I guess they like us and then come back and

855
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.039
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, oh my gosh, really you're coming again like that,

856
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.840
<v Speaker 6>and that gets me excited knowing that we're seeing the

857
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.280
<v Speaker 6>same group of people again.

858
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:34.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like from farther place.

859
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:36.920
<v Speaker 6>And I told them, I'm like, you guys don't understand,

860
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.119
<v Speaker 6>but we like think about you too, Like we'll randomly

861
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:40.920
<v Speaker 6>be on the couch and just be like, hey, do

862
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:44.159
<v Speaker 6>you see what so and so posted today? Like it's

863
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.880
<v Speaker 6>just like and even Ryan was saying something like they've

864
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 6>got their own inside jokes now that not even I

865
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:51.960
<v Speaker 6>am a part of. Just like, yeah, that's what happens,

866
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:54.360
<v Speaker 6>is like, that's how you That's a clear indicator that

867
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:59.199
<v Speaker 6>a community is growing. Yes, when people have this love

868
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:01.360
<v Speaker 6>for one another and want to keep coming back and

869
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:02.639
<v Speaker 6>engaging with each other.

870
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:05.239
<v Speaker 2>You know it's something real. When you have like the

871
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 2>visionary painter who's here depicting scenes from this glorious night

872
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:14.960
<v Speaker 2>of miracles and the freaking sky that hundreds of people seeing.

873
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:17.599
<v Speaker 2>And then you've got the guy with the platter of

874
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.760
<v Speaker 2>corn fritters, you know, serving them to everybody. Yeah, you know,

875
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.119
<v Speaker 2>And it's just it's just like this is a festival

876
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 2>without it being a festival, you know what I mean. Well,

877
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean we were at a festival, but I mean

878
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.679
<v Speaker 2>the party after the you know what i mean, Yeah,

879
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:32.119
<v Speaker 2>on the beach, the SkyWatch all.

880
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:34.440
<v Speaker 6>That literally just a street fair though, like totally free

881
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:35.800
<v Speaker 6>of charge, just like come.

882
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:39.199
<v Speaker 2>Hang, we've got our own thing within the thing, I know, and.

883
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:42.039
<v Speaker 7>The whole city is like, oh yeah, yeah, we've been

884
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.320
<v Speaker 7>getting calls and calls and that's before we had even

885
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:47.800
<v Speaker 7>like secured the we hadn't secured our ticket to have

886
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:50.119
<v Speaker 7>a booth yet, and people already had their hotels and we're.

887
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:51.079
<v Speaker 6>Like, oh my goodness.

888
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Stress.

889
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:55.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but it just shows that, I don't know, the

890
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:57.599
<v Speaker 6>community is so strong and I'm so glad that it's

891
00:47:57.679 --> 00:47:59.800
<v Speaker 6>going this way, and it is so cool.

892
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:03.519
<v Speaker 4>It's organic. It is like a natural thing that these

893
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:07.000
<v Speaker 4>people are finding you and then each other, which you know,

894
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.559
<v Speaker 4>is how Burning Man got started. Like this kind of

895
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 4>transformational gathering was initially just friends getting together on a

896
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:17.559
<v Speaker 4>beach out near San Francisco, and like the mid eighties,

897
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:19.360
<v Speaker 4>they're just like, wouldn't it be fun just get together

898
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:23.719
<v Speaker 4>on the beach and burn some something together. And then

899
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:26.679
<v Speaker 4>after they had that first gathering, decide, let's come back

900
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 4>new this again next year. And then each year it

901
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 4>get growing and growing and growing until it got to

902
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:35.119
<v Speaker 4>that point of, Okay, we may need a new location.

903
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.440
<v Speaker 4>The beach isn't big enough for us anymore. And then

904
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.719
<v Speaker 4>it moved out to the desert, and you know, the

905
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:43.519
<v Speaker 4>social experiment of just a few folks gathered on the

906
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:46.519
<v Speaker 4>beach in the eighties transpired to eighty thousand people gathered

907
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.960
<v Speaker 4>in the desert in twenty nineteen, and so, yeah, it's just.

908
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.360
<v Speaker 6>Wait, was so that was that the one? Wasn't there

909
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:55.519
<v Speaker 6>one burning Man that was like iconic? Was it that one?

910
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yes?

911
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:59.760
<v Speaker 4>The yeah, like the burning Man community, A lot of

912
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:03.400
<v Speaker 4>folk are familiar with it through this big gathering that

913
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:06.760
<v Speaker 4>happens annually out west in the desert black Rock City,

914
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:12.000
<v Speaker 4>just like just outside of Reno, Nevada. But then there's

915
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:14.599
<v Speaker 4>these regional gatherings that happen all over the world that

916
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:18.079
<v Speaker 4>are not as large as that one usually, but the

917
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:22.000
<v Speaker 4>same spirit, and so I continue to go to one

918
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:24.440
<v Speaker 4>annually each year. That's only like two and a half

919
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:27.599
<v Speaker 4>hours from me in Raleigh. It's about eight hundred people,

920
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:31.760
<v Speaker 4>and it is it's that same spirit, a beautiful ritual

921
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:37.039
<v Speaker 4>for folks to come together and connect in some very

922
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:42.159
<v Speaker 4>creatively expressive spaces where where again that that radical self expression,

923
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:46.159
<v Speaker 4>radical inclusion is encouraged as well as you know, the

924
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:49.599
<v Speaker 4>spirit of decommodification. Bring in everything that you'll need to survive,

925
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.079
<v Speaker 4>but then also everything you want to give to the community.

926
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:58.199
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's just I highly recommend the experience if

927
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.840
<v Speaker 4>you've never been to a burn gathering before for those

928
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:05.440
<v Speaker 4>who are curious and feeling a call. But yeah, just

929
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:11.400
<v Speaker 4>I am very drawn to like this community that you

930
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 4>all are cultivating again just for that similarity of experience.

931
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean that says a lot. That that really

932
00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:24.519
<v Speaker 2>says a lot to me that this very hugely famous,

933
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:30.119
<v Speaker 2>notorious thing that's been going on for like forty years

934
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:33.159
<v Speaker 2>and you're like really kind of pumping me up here

935
00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:35.599
<v Speaker 2>saying we're doing the same thing with our with our

936
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:38.880
<v Speaker 2>little skywatches on the Beach. It's like, man, this this

937
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:42.920
<v Speaker 2>is kind of monumental to me. I mean I feel like,

938
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.679
<v Speaker 2>who knows where it will be in a year, two years,

939
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:48.000
<v Speaker 2>three years. I mean not necessarily in terms of numbers,

940
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.960
<v Speaker 2>but in terms of energy. Yes, yes, because it's not

941
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:54.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm realizing now it's not about number of people, it's

942
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:58.280
<v Speaker 2>about the impact. Impact goes beyond numbers.

943
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:02.239
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm with you, you know, yeah.

944
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:07.199
<v Speaker 2>The fact that anyone would fly from Denmark or from Columbia,

945
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.199
<v Speaker 2>from Germany, from from.

946
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:13.360
<v Speaker 6>Honestly than yeah. Yeah.

947
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.400
<v Speaker 2>But but I mean we're talking across the world.

948
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 7>You know.

949
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:18.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like all these people coming out here and getting

950
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:20.800
<v Speaker 2>together and they're just the nicest people, and then these

951
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:24.519
<v Speaker 2>experiences that we're having and it's like, god, man, I

952
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:26.880
<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm looking at the Mona Lisa of Orbs

953
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:29.679
<v Speaker 2>right now like this, I mean, this is really feels

954
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:30.480
<v Speaker 2>profound to me.

955
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:33.239
<v Speaker 6>Like you need to put that as like a review,

956
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:36.039
<v Speaker 6>the Mona Lisa of Orbs Ryan.

957
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:38.599
<v Speaker 2>But you know what I mean, like, I feel like

958
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:43.119
<v Speaker 2>something really is happening here, and it's like some modern

959
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:49.519
<v Speaker 2>psychedelic Da Vinci wink wink, you know, the thing is

960
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.840
<v Speaker 2>happening here with these experiences that were like very humbly

961
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:56.639
<v Speaker 2>gathering on the beach, you know, kind of like Burning Man, right,

962
00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:59.320
<v Speaker 2>but you know, just to have skywatches with people and

963
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:00.599
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's crazy, but.

964
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:04.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm curious, I don't, did I cut you off? I'm sorry,

965
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:08.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm curious as to like do people come there and

966
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:09.079
<v Speaker 6>bring stuff to burn?

967
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:15.559
<v Speaker 4>So the titled burning Man comes from the tradition of

968
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:21.119
<v Speaker 4>this gathering. There's very few like scheduled events or you know,

969
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:24.960
<v Speaker 4>traditions within the gatherings themselves, like each one is unique

970
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:27.639
<v Speaker 4>and different. Is like the gathering is going to depend

971
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.519
<v Speaker 4>upon the people that participate. Whatever people bring to this

972
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:33.320
<v Speaker 4>gathering is what will entail. With the exception of the

973
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:36.880
<v Speaker 4>tradition of every Saturday night at one of these gatherings

974
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:40.199
<v Speaker 4>there is a burn of just a large structure of

975
00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:43.760
<v Speaker 4>sorts what we call it the effigy, which you know

976
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:47.519
<v Speaker 4>is usually a grant funded project for an artist to

977
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:49.960
<v Speaker 4>create for the event. You know, just find someone who

978
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:53.800
<v Speaker 4>knows how to do some woodworking fabrication and it's like, hey,

979
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:56.280
<v Speaker 4>we'll give you some funds if you have an idea

980
00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 4>on some massive structure that you want to build that

981
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.360
<v Speaker 4>we can set up for a few days at this event,

982
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:03.880
<v Speaker 4>only to then burn down in front of everyone. We'll

983
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:04.960
<v Speaker 4>give you the funds to do that.

984
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:07.920
<v Speaker 6>And I've seen him before. They were like a little human.

985
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:09.920
<v Speaker 6>It reminds me of the wicker Man for some reason.

986
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:11.599
<v Speaker 6>Have you seen that movie.

987
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:14.760
<v Speaker 4>I've not seen the movie, but I know what you're

988
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:17.679
<v Speaker 4>speaking of. And and certainly the one out west they

989
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:21.199
<v Speaker 4>usually do have the same design of an effigy each year,

990
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:23.079
<v Speaker 4>of some kind of like human looking figures.

991
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so what is the point of burning the effigy?

992
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:34.639
<v Speaker 4>It's, you know, embracing the combination of radical self expression

993
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:39.480
<v Speaker 4>as well as the temporary nature of all things. It's interesting, Yeah,

994
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 4>it's it's it's you know, like celebrating that quality of

995
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:47.039
<v Speaker 4>this existence of you know, like we're so many of us,

996
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:49.280
<v Speaker 4>relatively speaking, here and gone in the blink of an eye,

997
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.079
<v Speaker 4>as are everything that we bring into this existence and

998
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:55.159
<v Speaker 4>creating this world. And yet it's still so worth it.

999
00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:59.119
<v Speaker 4>It's still so worthwhile. And so this act of burning

1000
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:02.199
<v Speaker 4>this structure, you know, is a bit of like a

1001
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:05.119
<v Speaker 4>recognition of that as well as an empowering act of

1002
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:08.199
<v Speaker 4>you know, we are able to accept that this is

1003
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 4>the state of things. At least that's my interpretation.

1004
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:11.880
<v Speaker 2>It seems like a.

1005
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:13.960
<v Speaker 6>Good place to go though, Like if you're really ticked off,

1006
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:17.239
<v Speaker 6>like you know, people like burn letters, you know, it's

1007
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:19.760
<v Speaker 6>just to kind of have that cleansing of like, you

1008
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:22.000
<v Speaker 6>know what, I'm gonna write this letter down to my

1009
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:24.440
<v Speaker 6>ex or whoever, and I'm gonna burn it and get

1010
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:26.480
<v Speaker 6>rid of it. That kind of reminds me of that too,

1011
00:54:26.519 --> 00:54:29.480
<v Speaker 6>to allow for like some regeneration, yes, one hundred percent.

1012
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

1013
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:34.800
<v Speaker 4>And so the only other tradition at these gatherings besides

1014
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:38.119
<v Speaker 4>the effigy structure burn is what we then call the

1015
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:42.079
<v Speaker 4>temple structure burn, which is more of like a structure

1016
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:44.199
<v Speaker 4>designed for the kind of things that you're speaking of.

1017
00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:47.400
<v Speaker 4>This is something that would happen Sunday night after this

1018
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:51.119
<v Speaker 4>Saturday night burn, and the temple structure at these gatherings

1019
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:54.039
<v Speaker 4>is a space that gets set up more for people

1020
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:56.159
<v Speaker 4>to participate in, like in the way and you're speaking

1021
00:54:56.280 --> 00:54:58.519
<v Speaker 4>the ways in which you are speaking of, where you

1022
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:01.159
<v Speaker 4>go into this space and maybe you write something on

1023
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:04.719
<v Speaker 4>the wall that is tied to something that you want

1024
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:07.960
<v Speaker 4>to either release or honor, or you put objects within

1025
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.239
<v Speaker 4>the space that you're wanting to release through like a

1026
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:13.920
<v Speaker 4>fire ritual. And then Sunday night, the temple gets lit

1027
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:16.679
<v Speaker 4>up as well, it gets burnt down and everything within

1028
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:19.400
<v Speaker 4>it gets burnt. And that is more of like a somber,

1029
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:23.679
<v Speaker 4>reflective burning event that allows people to have more of

1030
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:25.280
<v Speaker 4>that kind of experience you're describing.

1031
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:27.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's just the first thing that comes to mind

1032
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:30.320
<v Speaker 6>for me. Yeah, it's really cool. I didn't realize that

1033
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:32.719
<v Speaker 6>there were a bunch of little ones I've only ever

1034
00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:36.239
<v Speaker 6>seen i think that iconic imagery from some of the

1035
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:37.280
<v Speaker 6>other ones out west.

1036
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:40.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that's really neat. Yeah, and you know, there

1037
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:43.159
<v Speaker 4>are folks that do bring smaller sculptures to burn a

1038
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:45.639
<v Speaker 4>lot of folks that know how to spin fire come

1039
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:48.000
<v Speaker 4>to these gatherings and share the gift of their fire

1040
00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:49.239
<v Speaker 4>spinning with the community.

1041
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:52.199
<v Speaker 6>Wait let me okay, So, if some of this is

1042
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:54.840
<v Speaker 6>happening in the desert, aren't the winds high?

1043
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:55.719
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

1044
00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:59.079
<v Speaker 6>So I'm like, is this a hazard? Is this ilegal?

1045
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:00.239
<v Speaker 7>Oh?

1046
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:09.440
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, it's yes, it is all. Yes. There's there's

1047
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:13.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, permits and and structural logistical things that are

1048
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:16.880
<v Speaker 4>put into place to ensure that these gatherings will be

1049
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:20.400
<v Speaker 4>as safe as they can be. But yeah, yeah, it's

1050
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:22.960
<v Speaker 4>winds are high out there. I've been to the one

1051
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:26.679
<v Speaker 4>out west once and watching those big structure fires burn,

1052
00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:30.960
<v Speaker 4>it's amazing. You have this cold desert wind that is

1053
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:35.800
<v Speaker 4>blowing into this massive fire and it spins out like

1054
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:40.000
<v Speaker 4>these smoke tornadoes off at one end of the fire

1055
00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:43.119
<v Speaker 4>that look like, you know, real tornadoes spinning across the desert.

1056
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:46.480
<v Speaker 4>But but they're just smoke. And it's just that cold

1057
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:50.480
<v Speaker 4>air hot fire combo that does that. And and yeah,

1058
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.800
<v Speaker 4>it's it's an experience the fire.

1059
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:56.039
<v Speaker 6>Does it end up being like blue? You know how

1060
00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:58.559
<v Speaker 6>like the hottest flame is like blue? Like is the

1061
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:00.639
<v Speaker 6>middle like blue? And then it I don't know.

1062
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes yeah, yeah, especially if people throw those things in

1063
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:07.039
<v Speaker 4>there that make them change funk colors. But but yeah, yeah,

1064
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:10.079
<v Speaker 4>those those fires get hot. Yeah, They're they're huge, and

1065
00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:13.119
<v Speaker 4>it's like you can, you know, only get so close

1066
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:15.800
<v Speaker 4>to them. You think like you're you're many yards away

1067
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:18.239
<v Speaker 4>and you cannot get any closer because of just how

1068
00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:20.280
<v Speaker 4>hot they are burning. But you're in the desert. There's

1069
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:23.239
<v Speaker 4>plenty of rooms, right Yeah.

1070
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Wow, Well I have to ask because it's just like

1071
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:28.639
<v Speaker 2>I've blinked and it's been an hour now and I'm like,

1072
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:33.159
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, we do have to hit on this. Yeah,

1073
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:37.039
<v Speaker 2>I would love to know how you got involved with

1074
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:43.320
<v Speaker 2>the experience of going and I don't know if this

1075
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.920
<v Speaker 2>is the accurate term, but like collaborating with Alex Gray.

1076
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:52.320
<v Speaker 4>Yes, right on, thank you? Yeah. I So the Grays,

1077
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:56.719
<v Speaker 4>Alex and Alison, they have their spot up at COSM,

1078
00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:59.440
<v Speaker 4>and you know, they several times a year off her

1079
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:05.599
<v Speaker 4>workshop painting intensives where anyone who was interested in learning

1080
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.960
<v Speaker 4>from them and studying with them can apply to one

1081
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:11.800
<v Speaker 4>of these workshops where you would then get to go

1082
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:14.880
<v Speaker 4>and live on the grounds of COSM for a week

1083
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:18.880
<v Speaker 4>and have painting sessions with them every day, share meals

1084
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.320
<v Speaker 4>with them, and then you know, stay overnight in a

1085
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:24.880
<v Speaker 4>house on the grounds alongside other artists. And so I

1086
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:27.119
<v Speaker 4>was blessed to be able to participate in one of

1087
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:32.039
<v Speaker 4>these workshops. How many other people there's twenty that were

1088
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:33.679
<v Speaker 4>part of the workshop that I was a part of.

1089
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:38.840
<v Speaker 4>And this is a visionary painting intensive workshop. So everyone

1090
00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:43.280
<v Speaker 4>who participated in this was as serious of a painter

1091
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:46.000
<v Speaker 4>as passionate of a painter as I am, and so

1092
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:50.760
<v Speaker 4>I applied to him, was accepted into this intensive last

1093
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:54.199
<v Speaker 4>year and went up in July and got to hanging

1094
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:57.719
<v Speaker 4>out with them for a whole week, and it was amazing,

1095
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, Like I have been influenced to buy their

1096
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:05.920
<v Speaker 4>work for about sixteen years. Anytime anyone's asked me who

1097
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:09.559
<v Speaker 4>my favorite artists are, I've always considered Alison and Alex

1098
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:11.760
<v Speaker 4>in the top five. I can't really choose the one,

1099
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:16.639
<v Speaker 4>but it's impossible. Yeah, and yeah, just it was such

1100
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:21.519
<v Speaker 4>a fulfilling time. I just was so appreciative of getting

1101
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:23.920
<v Speaker 4>to know more of a sense of who they are

1102
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:26.800
<v Speaker 4>as people, to know more of the depths of their

1103
00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:30.480
<v Speaker 4>inspiration and where they're coming from, and to really enjoy

1104
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:33.440
<v Speaker 4>just some like awesome down to earth and silly moments

1105
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:38.760
<v Speaker 4>with them too, you know. And so yeah, I while

1106
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:40.840
<v Speaker 4>I was up there, you know, got into some great

1107
00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:47.000
<v Speaker 4>conversations with Alex about UFO stuff. It's its topic he's

1108
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:50.000
<v Speaker 4>gravitated towards for a while, as well as other folks

1109
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:53.039
<v Speaker 4>that are on staff at COSM. And I had a

1110
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:55.239
<v Speaker 4>copy of UFO of God up there with me.

1111
00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Which is amazing.

1112
00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:59.599
<v Speaker 4>While we were in the painting intensive, I had a

1113
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:02.320
<v Speaker 4>little table next to my easel where I would keep

1114
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:05.119
<v Speaker 4>all of my supplies and so I had a copy

1115
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:09.280
<v Speaker 4>of that book out on that table, and another artist

1116
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:11.679
<v Speaker 4>that was part of the intensive they recognized the book

1117
01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:13.960
<v Speaker 4>and was like, oh, yeah, I listened to Blood, so said.

1118
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:16.239
<v Speaker 2>So that's you never told us.

1119
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1120
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Another artist that was part of it, Todd Keffer was

1121
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:28.360
<v Speaker 4>his name, And then yeah, I had a chat with

1122
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:30.599
<v Speaker 4>Alex about it briefly. He was like, oh, yeah, I

1123
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:32.480
<v Speaker 4>saw that book on your table and I was looking

1124
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:36.960
<v Speaker 4>at it. That looks really interesting. So yeah, I really

1125
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:41.519
<v Speaker 4>enjoyed getting to share with him and Alison about your story.

1126
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:44.440
<v Speaker 4>They had not yet heard about the Bloedsos, even though

1127
01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:47.440
<v Speaker 4>they've had their eye on UFO things for a while.

1128
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:53.000
<v Speaker 4>And so then I was blessed to be able to

1129
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:55.920
<v Speaker 4>return to Cosm in November of last year to live

1130
01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:58.960
<v Speaker 4>paint at one of their Full Moon ceremonies. They host

1131
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:03.119
<v Speaker 4>a monthly Full Moons ceremony where folks can come out

1132
01:01:03.159 --> 01:01:08.199
<v Speaker 4>and congregate together and have a like celebration of spirit

1133
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:11.280
<v Speaker 4>in a non denominational way where the Grays will choose

1134
01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:13.079
<v Speaker 4>like a theme of the months to focus upon and

1135
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:18.920
<v Speaker 4>then you know, offer some presentations, lectures, depictions of artwork

1136
01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:21.320
<v Speaker 4>that are tied to that theme, invite performers to come

1137
01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:24.800
<v Speaker 4>to the ceremony and show it's wonderful.

1138
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Let's go sometime, as long as it's not the kind

1139
01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:30.599
<v Speaker 2>of thing where I have to paint because I cannot

1140
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:31.000
<v Speaker 2>do that.

1141
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:32.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, no, you can.

1142
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:33.159
<v Speaker 7>Ryan.

1143
01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:36.599
<v Speaker 4>Don't use limiting like I'm limiting that one. Well, actually, yeah,

1144
01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:38.760
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate you say that, Jennifer, because.

1145
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.400
<v Speaker 6>I have some of Ryan's pottery downstairs.

1146
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:42.920
<v Speaker 2>You do not want to see it, and we are

1147
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:43.559
<v Speaker 2>not going to show.

1148
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:46.639
<v Speaker 6>She will be she can see it, you will witness it, Okay.

1149
01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:48.079
<v Speaker 4>But I just want to say that a lot more

1150
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:52.000
<v Speaker 4>people are capable of painting than many realize.

1151
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:54.679
<v Speaker 6>A hundred percent. Ryan is one of the most creative

1152
01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:56.400
<v Speaker 6>people I know. And if you can do it with

1153
01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:57.800
<v Speaker 6>his ears, he can do.

1154
01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:00.480
<v Speaker 4>It with his If we broke it down steps I step,

1155
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:03.119
<v Speaker 4>I have no doubt you could do it singing too.

1156
01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:05.760
<v Speaker 6>Emily's always like Ryan, you can sing if you really

1157
01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:09.840
<v Speaker 6>try it. He's like, no, I couldn't sing, but he can.

1158
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1159
01:02:10.079 --> 01:02:11.119
<v Speaker 4>It's the keyword is yet.

1160
01:02:11.679 --> 01:02:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I would I would love to actually go to one

1161
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:16.239
<v Speaker 2>of these cosm events as long as it's not an

1162
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:19.119
<v Speaker 2>intensive workshop where you're trying to learn to paint. I would.

1163
01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I would love to go to that.

1164
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:23.920
<v Speaker 4>You would you would enjoy the full moon ceremony, I think?

1165
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Then yeah, And then they always host art Church the

1166
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:30.159
<v Speaker 4>next day, which is just like a casual come together

1167
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:33.280
<v Speaker 4>everyone who wants to meditate upon a theme together and

1168
01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:35.320
<v Speaker 4>then we'll we'll make art together, and then we'll share

1169
01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:36.280
<v Speaker 4>about the art that we make.

1170
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:38.719
<v Speaker 6>You literally just said art church.

1171
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:43.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would certainly try. I would. I would

1172
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:45.840
<v Speaker 2>certainly try if it was like, oh my god, I'm

1173
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:47.639
<v Speaker 2>in a room with Alex Gray and we're doing this

1174
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:49.480
<v Speaker 2>thing where you know what I mean, Like, I would,

1175
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I would do that. I'm not saying that.

1176
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:54.840
<v Speaker 6>I hate much of the Lady from your d MT art.

1177
01:02:57.880 --> 01:02:59.599
<v Speaker 2>I want to see that later when you'll see it,

1178
01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:03.159
<v Speaker 2>you're really she's mocking me, but it is not good.

1179
01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:04.639
<v Speaker 4>Everyone's expression as well.

1180
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:06.679
<v Speaker 6>But I'm saying it's a form of expression.

1181
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:11.519
<v Speaker 2>But my point is I love the art and the

1182
01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:13.760
<v Speaker 2>artist so much that I don't care to go there

1183
01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:16.679
<v Speaker 2>to like learn. I would just like to sit there

1184
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:18.880
<v Speaker 2>and just like, Wow, look at all this art. You

1185
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:20.280
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Let's do it.

1186
01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And as I've mentioned, they've got an amazing spot

1187
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:27.639
<v Speaker 4>for skywatching. So yeah, I think says field trip up

1188
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:30.280
<v Speaker 4>the Cosm would be great. Well, once a month, you

1189
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:33.119
<v Speaker 4>said it's once a month yep, so pretty much like

1190
01:03:33.159 --> 01:03:35.480
<v Speaker 4>the weekend closest to the full moon. You can.

1191
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh cool, we should we should figure that out. I

1192
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:41.079
<v Speaker 2>did message him because you put him on my radar,

1193
01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:45.400
<v Speaker 2>yes or no, no, you put me on his radar. Yes,

1194
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:47.639
<v Speaker 2>it's been on my radar, right, but you put me

1195
01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:52.280
<v Speaker 2>on his radar. And he painted a painting that was

1196
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:55.000
<v Speaker 2>inspired by Dad's book and the orbs and your stories

1197
01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:58.239
<v Speaker 2>and everything. And I saw that and I shared it,

1198
01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:01.039
<v Speaker 2>and then he saw it, and then one thing led

1199
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:03.639
<v Speaker 2>to another, and we had a couple of messages and

1200
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:05.519
<v Speaker 2>he just like had the sweetest things to say, and

1201
01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:07.360
<v Speaker 2>I pretty much said like I'd love to have a

1202
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:11.159
<v Speaker 2>SkyWatch with you, and he liked the message, and that

1203
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:11.480
<v Speaker 2>was there.

1204
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:15.639
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, no, I'm I'm sure they're they're very busy,

1205
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:19.000
<v Speaker 4>of course, of course, but but yeah, I think but

1206
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:21.920
<v Speaker 4>that means we have a chance. Yeah, And I think

1207
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:24.519
<v Speaker 4>that there could be a really good chance if it

1208
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:28.679
<v Speaker 4>involves us going to them on their home ground.

1209
01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:30.079
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm so willing.

1210
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:33.400
<v Speaker 6>Do you have that painting that you did at the

1211
01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:34.360
<v Speaker 6>full Moon ceremony.

1212
01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:37.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh, that one is still in progress. It's the one

1213
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:39.360
<v Speaker 4>that I showed you a picture of earlier, of the

1214
01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:44.440
<v Speaker 4>Earth with the beams of rainbow coming around it. Yeah.

1215
01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:45.480
<v Speaker 6>But oh the little Heart.

1216
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1217
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:49.280
<v Speaker 4>But but when I went up to at UH to

1218
01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:53.599
<v Speaker 4>Live paint in November, that was after Riverfest, And so

1219
01:04:54.679 --> 01:04:57.079
<v Speaker 4>this time when I brought up, I brought up another

1220
01:04:57.159 --> 01:04:59.400
<v Speaker 4>copy of the book with me that I could give

1221
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.679
<v Speaker 4>to him and Allison as they could have their own

1222
01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:05.400
<v Speaker 4>copy and read it. And one of the coolest moments

1223
01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:08.719
<v Speaker 4>of my creative life probably was up there live painting

1224
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:12.440
<v Speaker 4>and Alex comes over to say hi, and I'm like, here, Alex,

1225
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:14.480
<v Speaker 4>I have a copy of the book for you now.

1226
01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:16.960
<v Speaker 4>And then I got to share with him about what

1227
01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:18.599
<v Speaker 4>we experienced at Riverfest.

1228
01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:21.840
<v Speaker 6>That's crazy and stuff.

1229
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:24.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I showed and I showed him the video that

1230
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:28.840
<v Speaker 4>for real that Heather Bird had taken Heather Heather when

1231
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:31.199
<v Speaker 4>she pointed her camera up a right that right moment,

1232
01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:34.159
<v Speaker 4>I was able to show him that video. And so

1233
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:37.159
<v Speaker 4>he was just so stoked to hear about all of

1234
01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:40.440
<v Speaker 4>it and then to see the video and very very

1235
01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:42.320
<v Speaker 4>gladly received the copy of the book.

1236
01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:46.480
<v Speaker 6>So wow, Wow, that's crazy. I have a blanket, one

1237
01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 6>of his blankets.

1238
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:50.760
<v Speaker 2>That Jemmy gave us. The Flesh of the Gods is

1239
01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:55.039
<v Speaker 2>the name of the piece, I yeah, yeah, or TiO tika,

1240
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember it's it's a Spanish word.

1241
01:05:57.239 --> 01:05:59.880
<v Speaker 6>It's just the one of the hand, like holding tik wan.

1242
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.599
<v Speaker 6>But it's similar to the eyeball on your yes hat.

1243
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:03.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1244
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:08.000
<v Speaker 6>I think that might be a reoccurring thing for him. Yeah, yeah, awesome.

1245
01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:13.280
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, amazing. Wow, I mean I feel like I

1246
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:15.599
<v Speaker 2>would if you're good with it. Yes, I would love

1247
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:18.280
<v Speaker 2>to go into more of these on full disclosure. Yeah,

1248
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:20.800
<v Speaker 2>we'll take a short little wrap here and then we'll

1249
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:22.440
<v Speaker 2>dive deeper into some of these on our page.

1250
01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:25.840
<v Speaker 6>Can we actually show that one though, Yeah, because I

1251
01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:29.760
<v Speaker 6>love that she had gifted each one of us a

1252
01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:31.679
<v Speaker 6>copy of this, and I want to hear more about

1253
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:34.400
<v Speaker 6>this because I now have a copy.

1254
01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:40.519
<v Speaker 4>Yes, let's see. So we'll go this way a little

1255
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:43.000
<v Speaker 4>bit here, Yeah, you can, I can rest it right here.

1256
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:49.559
<v Speaker 4>This is called Resonant Plane. This was painted in twenty

1257
01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:55.320
<v Speaker 4>twenty three and it was started at an event at

1258
01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:59.039
<v Speaker 4>a river festival. Actually the Eno River festival in Durham,

1259
01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:01.559
<v Speaker 4>and this is another into it a vision where there

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01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:04.719
<v Speaker 4>was no concept of where I was headed, but I

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01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:07.480
<v Speaker 4>at least knew my starting point, which was the body

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01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:11.000
<v Speaker 4>of water taking inspiration from the river theme. And so

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01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:14.599
<v Speaker 4>when I started the painting, it literally was just this

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01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:18.880
<v Speaker 4>body of water, and then this cloudscape happened. And then

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<v Speaker 4>I went home after that first day at the festival

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01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:23.920
<v Speaker 4>that was it. And then while I was at home,

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01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:28.199
<v Speaker 4>just sitting in a chair, I experienced this thing that

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01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:31.039
<v Speaker 4>happens to me sometimes with my visions, where I get

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01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:34.239
<v Speaker 4>like this flash in the mind's eye. It's like just

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01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:36.719
<v Speaker 4>a very brief second of kind of just like whoa,

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01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:41.559
<v Speaker 4>Like this scene appears behind my eyelids. That has with

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01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:45.159
<v Speaker 4>it that jolt of recognition of that at once to

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01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:45.800
<v Speaker 4>get painted.

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01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:47.440
<v Speaker 2>That's how I came up with the sigil.

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01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm. Yeah, we felt that jolt.

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01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, it's like it flashes into my mind. I'm like, oh,

1277
01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:54.480
<v Speaker 2>it's got to be a triangle a circle in the middle,

1278
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:56.719
<v Speaker 2>but it's a ufo. You know. It's just like this

1279
01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:00.119
<v Speaker 2>higher level of information just SAPs into your brain and

1280
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:01.679
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh my god. And then it's like the

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01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:02.800
<v Speaker 2>mashed potato mountain you.

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01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Have, Yeah, you have to do it, you know, right,

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01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:09.400
<v Speaker 4>And so that flash was all of these silhouettes that

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01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:15.079
<v Speaker 4>are coming out of the water. And this was you know,

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01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:18.199
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three, you know, like like I was very

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01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:21.840
<v Speaker 4>much invested in your all story. I had not yet.

1287
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Been the book had just come out.

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01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:27.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I wasn't witnessing orbs myself on a regular basis,

1289
01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:33.039
<v Speaker 4>which I have been now since October. But I was

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01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:36.920
<v Speaker 4>at this time very drawn to purposely depict the orbs

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01:08:37.039 --> 01:08:40.119
<v Speaker 4>in my works. As you know, they have been representative

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01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:41.319
<v Speaker 4>for your story.

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01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:43.279
<v Speaker 2>And this is.

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01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:46.319
<v Speaker 4>Also like a point along my trajectory where I was

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01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:50.840
<v Speaker 4>gravitating towards depicting the human form more in silhouette, so

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01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:54.880
<v Speaker 4>that these forms could be more familiar to many eyes

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01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:58.239
<v Speaker 4>as opposed to you know, having these identifiable features that

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01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:01.159
<v Speaker 4>that might make the more distinguishment distinguishable as particular types

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01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:04.000
<v Speaker 4>of people. And so to silhouette all of these forms

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01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:07.199
<v Speaker 4>out and to put an emphasis upon the heart space

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01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:11.520
<v Speaker 4>because to me, I feel like that is where the

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01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:15.720
<v Speaker 4>soul resides, that that is where that intuitive voice is

1303
01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:20.560
<v Speaker 4>speaking from when it is the true voice of you know,

1304
01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:24.000
<v Speaker 4>quote higher self as opposed to like conditioned messages of

1305
01:09:24.039 --> 01:09:28.880
<v Speaker 4>the mind. And so I really have drawn I've gravitated

1306
01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:32.159
<v Speaker 4>towards depicting silhouettes with that heart space emphasized to further

1307
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:38.319
<v Speaker 4>convey that idea of us evolving collectively into operating with

1308
01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:42.800
<v Speaker 4>more compassion for ourselves, for others, for the earth, and

1309
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:47.000
<v Speaker 4>then to feel that sense of correspondence of as above

1310
01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:50.920
<v Speaker 4>so below in this scene, you know, the difference between

1311
01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:55.239
<v Speaker 4>the glowing heart space within these forms and the orbs

1312
01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:58.319
<v Speaker 4>in the sky is not much. So wanting to convey

1313
01:09:58.359 --> 01:10:03.600
<v Speaker 4>that connection between the orbs and our divine spark that

1314
01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:04.720
<v Speaker 4>each one of us has.

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01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:06.319
<v Speaker 6>That's crazy.

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01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's very meaningful that this is the one you

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01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:09.119
<v Speaker 2>chose to get.

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01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:11.359
<v Speaker 6>Well, and I was telling Molly, I like a good story.

1319
01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:15.319
<v Speaker 6>So to hear the story behind this painting, and that

1320
01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:19.119
<v Speaker 6>is so awesome because I plan personally to hang it

1321
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:20.960
<v Speaker 6>up in our office. I think that would be a

1322
01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:24.000
<v Speaker 6>great spot. And I I'm.

1323
01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Gonna have two paintings in our office.

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01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:29.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I have. I currently have a it's like

1325
01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:33.079
<v Speaker 6>literally the simplest little digital art behind me in my

1326
01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:35.960
<v Speaker 6>office that has like an as above so below theme.

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01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:36.600
<v Speaker 4>Nice.

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01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:38.560
<v Speaker 6>So then the fact that this has that that's just

1329
01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:43.560
<v Speaker 6>like itches my scratch. Yes, awesome, I'm gonna have a

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01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:47.800
<v Speaker 6>correlating theme going amazing. And I also just love how

1331
01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:54.199
<v Speaker 6>how it's just so yellow, like it's so yellow, yet

1332
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:56.880
<v Speaker 6>it's so dynamic in so many different ways. Yellow is

1333
01:10:56.920 --> 01:10:59.279
<v Speaker 6>like one of my favorite colors. So I appreciate it

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01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:00.640
<v Speaker 6>all cool, thank you.

1335
01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:04.399
<v Speaker 4>I normally fill the paintings with colors, but every now

1336
01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:07.039
<v Speaker 4>and then there's a vision that it's just like, no,

1337
01:11:07.199 --> 01:11:08.560
<v Speaker 4>this is where we're at.

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01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:11.359
<v Speaker 6>These right, Like you have this form over here. I mean,

1339
01:11:11.399 --> 01:11:13.119
<v Speaker 6>I know the viewer can't see it, but you have

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01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:15.159
<v Speaker 6>a very orange painting and then a very.

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01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:16.800
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna want I want to get into more of

1342
01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:18.800
<v Speaker 2>these on Full Disclosure. So Alex, do you know off

1343
01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:20.680
<v Speaker 2>top of your head what number that's going to be,

1344
01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:23.840
<v Speaker 2>because that way we can direct for our Full Disclosure

1345
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:27.279
<v Speaker 2>listeners that we can give them idea of what I'm

1346
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:32.039
<v Speaker 2>the seven ninety seven somewhere in that something like ball

1347
01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:35.800
<v Speaker 2>part Yeah. Yeah. So we're lucky enough to have Molly

1348
01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:39.520
<v Speaker 2>for a after show special features. She's going to join

1349
01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:41.279
<v Speaker 2>us on Full Disclosure, and I really would like to

1350
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:42.600
<v Speaker 2>get into more of these paintings.

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01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:44.279
<v Speaker 5>Ryan, how can I get a full disclosure if I

1352
01:11:44.279 --> 01:11:45.279
<v Speaker 5>don't know what you're talking about?

1353
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, you just you just go to patreon dot com slash.

1354
01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Let's just said so, and we have multiple tiers on

1355
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:58.960
<v Speaker 2>there with multiple exclusive shows and bonus content which is

1356
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:02.399
<v Speaker 2>currently in the works, and our amazing discord community which

1357
01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Molly was talking about earlier how we had started connecting

1358
01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:11.359
<v Speaker 2>and there's currently just about seven hundred and fifty people

1359
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:13.560
<v Speaker 2>in there and it's just just like a really thriving community.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it'll end up being episode ninety seven, right, yeah,

1361
01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:20.399
<v Speaker 6>ninety seven. Yeah, I just crossed checked it.

1362
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Check us out. Our patreon is pretty epic. And yeah,

1363
01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:26.279
<v Speaker 2>so we have our bonus show on the five dollars

1364
01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:28.920
<v Speaker 2>tier full disclosure, where we're going to go on to

1365
01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:31.239
<v Speaker 2>some more of these paintings because we have a lot

1366
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:33.399
<v Speaker 2>that we haven't even scratched the surface of our paintings

1367
01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:35.800
<v Speaker 2>on this show. But enough about us and what we

1368
01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:39.680
<v Speaker 2>got going on, Molly. I want to plug all of

1369
01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:42.800
<v Speaker 2>your resources. I want people to be able to find you,

1370
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:45.640
<v Speaker 2>your website, your social media, like wherever you need people

1371
01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:48.119
<v Speaker 2>to go, please tell them where to go, right on,

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01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

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01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:52.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I can be found mainly. Number one place to

1374
01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:57.359
<v Speaker 4>go is my website www dot mollischopin art dot com

1375
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:04.760
<v Speaker 4>and I'm on social media at Mollie chopin Art, Facebook, Facebook, TikTok,

1376
01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:08.960
<v Speaker 4>and Instagram. I also recently launched a Patreon and so

1377
01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:11.399
<v Speaker 4>I can be found on a Patreon on Mollie showpan

1378
01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:15.199
<v Speaker 4>Art as well. Yeah, that's great taking some new strides

1379
01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:18.319
<v Speaker 4>in that direction. You know, I've really enjoyed supporting some

1380
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:21.039
<v Speaker 4>artists over the years through that platform and just have

1381
01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:24.520
<v Speaker 4>been fueling the call lately to step into it myself.

1382
01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:25.560
<v Speaker 2>So it's great.

1383
01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:28.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we'll have that up and that can also be

1384
01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:33.600
<v Speaker 4>joined through the website. And I also have a email

1385
01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:36.000
<v Speaker 4>newsletter that I like to send out whenever I have

1386
01:13:36.119 --> 01:13:39.199
<v Speaker 4>finished a new painting and let folks know that it

1387
01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:42.840
<v Speaker 4>is available. Let that email list know first. And if

1388
01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:45.960
<v Speaker 4>you're local to North Carolina, I send out emails about

1389
01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:48.520
<v Speaker 4>festival events that I'm part of. And so if you're

1390
01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:53.359
<v Speaker 4>looking for some fun, transformational gatherings, dance parties, art markets

1391
01:13:53.399 --> 01:13:57.079
<v Speaker 4>to get in on in this region, that is something

1392
01:13:57.079 --> 01:13:58.279
<v Speaker 4>that I like to share each month.

1393
01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Want to join, I would love to the next time

1394
01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:08.159
<v Speaker 2>we do one of these festivals. Whether it's Riverfest. I

1395
01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:10.439
<v Speaker 2>know you and I have been talking about something else.

1396
01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I've been talking with my friend Alicia about a different thing,

1397
01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Like whatever it is, whatever the next thing is, as

1398
01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:20.119
<v Speaker 2>long as it's you know, nearby to where you can

1399
01:14:20.159 --> 01:14:24.239
<v Speaker 2>actually make it and it's convenient for you. I would

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01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:25.880
<v Speaker 2>love it if you would be there painting.

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01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:26.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:30.039
<v Speaker 6>I want to see you do the magic. I want

1403
01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:31.520
<v Speaker 6>to watch you do the mesta.

1404
01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:35.479
<v Speaker 5>It's really cool to watch it.

1405
01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Awesome.

1406
01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:39.039
<v Speaker 5>I got to stand behind her for a little while.

1407
01:14:39.119 --> 01:14:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

1408
01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:42.359
<v Speaker 6>I'm the type of person and I don't know if

1409
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:44.319
<v Speaker 6>I'm like a gnat to some people, but I like

1410
01:14:44.359 --> 01:14:46.920
<v Speaker 6>to stand behind the camera and watch the people do

1411
01:14:46.960 --> 01:14:49.760
<v Speaker 6>the camera work. I like the hardiest and watch the

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01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:52.920
<v Speaker 6>other day. I always watch you, my friend, give a tattoo. Okay,

1413
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.600
<v Speaker 6>I was having a blast, like, wow, you're doing that.

1414
01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:00.279
<v Speaker 6>It's just something I'm also foreign to of anyway, Just

1415
01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:02.119
<v Speaker 6>that would bring me so much joy to watch it.

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01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:07.359
<v Speaker 2>I want to have a Molly painting live. That's just

1417
01:15:07.399 --> 01:15:10.239
<v Speaker 2>what I'm calling it. A Molly painting, yeah, because it's

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01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:12.800
<v Speaker 2>a painting from my friend Molly. But I want to

1419
01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:17.840
<v Speaker 2>have a very special Molly painting of and about the

1420
01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:20.560
<v Speaker 2>next festival that we're a part of. In other words,

1421
01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:22.479
<v Speaker 2>like I want you to be a part of it too. Yeah,

1422
01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:24.800
<v Speaker 2>not to show up. We could cool guest and then

1423
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:26.640
<v Speaker 2>go home and like look what I've painted about it.

1424
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:29.319
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome, This is amazing. But you know what, what

1425
01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:31.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of magic will come through if if it's if

1426
01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:35.279
<v Speaker 2>it's agreed upon in advance and you're there not just

1427
01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:38.560
<v Speaker 2>observing but participating, you know what I mean, what what

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01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:40.279
<v Speaker 2>what will what will be interpreted?

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01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:40.880
<v Speaker 5>Then?

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01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:45.479
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, And the value of live painting at these kinds

1431
01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:48.880
<v Speaker 4>of gatherings is that the energy of the crowds, the

1432
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:53.039
<v Speaker 4>energy of everyone present, influences what comes through. And it's

1433
01:15:53.159 --> 01:15:56.239
<v Speaker 4>just it's an amazing experience to be painting around a

1434
01:15:56.279 --> 01:16:00.720
<v Speaker 4>group of people like that and to just allow each

1435
01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:04.159
<v Speaker 4>brushstrokes to be infused with that heard opening energy that

1436
01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:06.159
<v Speaker 4>we've been talking about. So yeah, let's do.

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01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:11.159
<v Speaker 2>It well from a podcast, I guess you could call

1438
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:18.600
<v Speaker 2>that a creative music maker individual, you know, who understands

1439
01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:24.279
<v Speaker 2>the importance and the magic of like creativity. Like I said,

1440
01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:27.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I can't paint. I don't really understand how

1441
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:30.520
<v Speaker 2>people can do stuff like that. I mean, I understand how,

1442
01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:34.479
<v Speaker 2>but it's like the I can't fathom actually being able

1443
01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:37.840
<v Speaker 2>to do this stuff like I do feel like what

1444
01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:39.920
<v Speaker 2>you do is very much magic, and I think it

1445
01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:42.960
<v Speaker 2>would be very cool. You know, next time I say if,

1446
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:46.359
<v Speaker 2>but no, when when next time you're there and you're

1447
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:50.119
<v Speaker 2>depicting this scene for us, It'll be a very cherished thing.

1448
01:16:50.319 --> 01:16:52.479
<v Speaker 2>I would love a copy, and you know, then we

1449
01:16:52.520 --> 01:16:54.920
<v Speaker 2>would just have to do a part two. Yeah, you know.

1450
01:16:55.279 --> 01:16:58.319
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, thank you so much for coming on our show.

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01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:01.119
<v Speaker 6>Can you ask Molly the question you asked everyone?

1452
01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:05.199
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, because I really want to hear this. I

1453
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:07.359
<v Speaker 2>was going to, by the way, so thank you for

1454
01:17:07.439 --> 01:17:09.319
<v Speaker 2>reminding me. I had the thought, but then we started

1455
01:17:09.319 --> 01:17:12.720
<v Speaker 2>talking about this, and so thank you for saving me. Yes.

1456
01:17:13.479 --> 01:17:16.319
<v Speaker 2>I like to ask every guest usually when I remember,

1457
01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:24.920
<v Speaker 2>if you know you had one thing to tell a

1458
01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:28.079
<v Speaker 2>large audience of people, like, what would it be? What's

1459
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:30.600
<v Speaker 2>that one message that you feel is so important that

1460
01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:32.600
<v Speaker 2>you wish you could get out to the world.

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01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:36.479
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Yes, I was thinking about it before I

1462
01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:39.039
<v Speaker 4>came here. Actually, if you were to ask such a question,

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01:17:39.279 --> 01:17:45.119
<v Speaker 4>and my message is everyone honor your creative spark. We

1464
01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:48.479
<v Speaker 4>all got one. You've got one. To honor your creative spark,

1465
01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:53.600
<v Speaker 4>honor your empathy and compassion, keep cultivating community, and keep

1466
01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:54.720
<v Speaker 4>looking out for each other.

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<v Speaker 2>That's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, the other night I got a tear from that.

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<v Speaker 6>Do I look a little?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you look a little. But the other night, I

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<v Speaker 2>was laying in bed one of having one of those

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<v Speaker 2>those like download moments. I don't know what you call it,

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<v Speaker 2>like higher higher state of thinking, Like these things come

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<v Speaker 2>through and it just kind of flashed in my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Like literally everything in the universe comes from creative impulses,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, whether it's creative intelligence, whether it's physical life

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<v Speaker 2>coming from some instinctual biological urge to procreate, which is

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<v Speaker 2>what a creative impulse. Yes, everything comes from creative impulses.

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<v Speaker 2>We are just flowing with creative impulses on every level

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<v Speaker 2>of reality. So I agree, Like, you know, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>honor your creative spark. It's it's what got you here,

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<v Speaker 2>it's where you're going back to. Everything comes from creative impulses.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably the most powerful force.

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<v Speaker 6>It really is crazy to think about, like where is

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<v Speaker 6>all of this coming from? Like we all have these

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<v Speaker 6>brains that are just sparking energy it's it's crazy. It's

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<v Speaker 6>above so below. Everything comes from everything, you know, something

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<v Speaker 6>comes from something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yep, creative impulses. Wow, Molly, you're amazing. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much. You know how we in the show?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>Can we show the cats though?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they've they've been pretty good.

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<v Speaker 5>Is they've had a lot of airtime tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean both of them have had an incredible.

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<v Speaker 5>Amount of air time, probably more than me. They've been

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<v Speaker 5>on camera more than I have.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a choice. Someone at the festival I have to

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<v Speaker 2>put I don't remember exactly who said this, but someone

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<v Speaker 2>at the festival. Oh it's Chester. It was Chester. Chester. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Chester's great. Yeah, Chester's amazing. And at azea festival two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, Chester was like, you need to talking to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He was like, you need to talk them into

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<v Speaker 2>letting you be on camera more. And Alex was in Chester.

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<v Speaker 2>I control the camera.

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<v Speaker 6>We beg Alex Alex, like, we we want Alex to

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<v Speaker 6>be on camera, we want Alex to talk more. But

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<v Speaker 6>he's just a mysterious guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>If I show myself too much, you quit begging.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 6>People won't be able to like imagine that that like

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<v Speaker 6>or fathom a pretty face if they see it so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where's the mystery?

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<v Speaker 6>Right? There's no mystery there, There's nothing Yeah, mist going

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<v Speaker 6>on for sure anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well you know what to do right? Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>Bye guys, guy, Bye guys.

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