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Speaker 2: Get that. So today we have Molly chopin am I
Speaker 2: saying that right, chopin, chopin, like like the the pianist
Speaker 2: that you are not related to. Correct. Okay, So before
Speaker 2: we start, because I often forget to do this, I
Speaker 2: wanted to see that you're wearing a beanie, so I
Speaker 2: wanted to give you one of our beanies.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much. Oh yes, this is one
Speaker 4: of my favorite kinds of hat to wear. Right now.
Speaker 2: I noticed, so appreciate. Well there's things in it too,
Speaker 2: so you gotta.
Speaker 4: There are things. Oh yes, awesome stickers. Yes, yes, thank you,
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Thank you.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome.
Speaker 4: It is a great, great honor to be here with
Speaker 4: you all today, talking with you all. It's been like
Speaker 4: we were talking about before, you know, I've been with
Speaker 4: you all almost since the beginning. Yeah, it's just been
Speaker 4: quite a ride to see what's transpired for you all,
Speaker 4: what's transpired for me along the way. It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is for us too. It's very cool to
Speaker 2: have you here. And you know, I would like for
Speaker 2: maybe you and Alex to cut in and tell that
Speaker 2: story because you guys actually met first at the Heart Festival.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you guys maybe want to
Speaker 2: start there or if you want to breeze past that,
Speaker 2: but we have a history with Molly, we can start there.
Speaker 5: Because that was like the first time ever I got
Speaker 5: noticed for doing this. It was incredible. It was a
Speaker 5: while ago, man, but my first event, not knowing what
Speaker 5: to expect, just there to help your dad, you know,
Speaker 5: and where our merch and here comes everybody. And I
Speaker 5: meet Molly at the tent and she's just, you know,
Speaker 5: this light in her tent, doing her thing. And He's like,
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I know who you are. And I'm like,
Speaker 5: I don't even know if I know who I am,
Speaker 5: And man, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just kind of wanted to cry.
Speaker 5: It was. It was a moment, that's for sure. I'm
Speaker 5: sure you remember it similarly and also very differently.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I knew you all were going to be
Speaker 4: at the Heart Festival in medbein North Carolina, which is
Speaker 4: less than an hour from me. And I've been sharing
Speaker 4: my art at festivals and events for the past couple
Speaker 4: of years, and so I got in touch with the
Speaker 4: Heart Festival folks and let them know I would love
Speaker 4: to bring my art to your event to share with
Speaker 4: the crowds that will be gathering. I think there will
Speaker 4: be some residents of what people see in my work
Speaker 4: and what they are here to talk about. And so
Speaker 4: they said, yeah, come on out. You can set up
Speaker 4: a booth so you can do some live painting while
Speaker 4: talks are going on. And I got there and set
Speaker 4: up the booth and just kind of as soon as
Speaker 4: I saw Alex and Chris walking around, I was like, oh, boy,
Speaker 4: there they are. Because again I've been listening to the
Speaker 4: podcast since like episode three, and I don't know what
Speaker 4: episode you all were on at this point, but this
Speaker 4: was one of the first in person gatherings where you
Speaker 4: know your community, you could start to come out and
Speaker 4: let you know that that we appreciate you and what
Speaker 4: is that you have to share. So yeah, it was
Speaker 4: great going up to you and being like, Hi, I'm Mollie,
Speaker 4: You're Hi, I'm Alex. And then I got to say
Speaker 4: I just let you know that I am a big
Speaker 4: fan of BLEDSOE said so, and then from there it
Speaker 4: was just we were friends and we got to hang
Speaker 4: out periodically throughout that day, sitting in on some of
Speaker 4: the talks and you know, getting to connect with all
Speaker 4: these folks that had traveled out just to meet your
Speaker 4: dad just to hear the things that he had to say,
Speaker 4: and then to do a little skywatching after the event.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it was. It was an amazing day.
Speaker 5: Now a little sky watching under two enormous trees. Hey
Speaker 5: and make it work.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, that's an amazing story because like what I'm
Speaker 2: hearing from that is that you had the boldness and
Speaker 2: the courage to approach the people running the festival and
Speaker 2: shoot your shot and say, hey, look this is my art,
Speaker 2: this is what I do, this is what I stand for.
Speaker 2: I'd love to be a part of the event. And obvious,
Speaker 2: I'm willing to bet this is how it went. They
Speaker 2: saw your art and they're like, Okay, you know, come
Speaker 2: on down. This is amazing, just like everybody does when
Speaker 2: they see your art, because it's amazing. It's very powerful
Speaker 2: and magical. Do you ever get the sense that sometimes
Speaker 2: because of this really profound and majestic art that you're making,
Speaker 2: has given you a magic access card that takes you
Speaker 2: to places you never thought you would have access to.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's a really cool way of putting it. And yes,
Speaker 4: most certainly I have been blessed to come into contact
Speaker 4: with all kinds of folks and experiences ever since I
Speaker 4: started following the call of the Art to call of
Speaker 4: the art, and my practice continues to maintain its momentum
Speaker 4: from continuing to cross paths with certain types of kindred folk.
Speaker 4: And so one of the areas that I've been stepping
Speaker 4: into growth wise is being proactive and letting people know
Speaker 4: this is what I have to offer. Certainly, as artists,
Speaker 4: we can be on the lookout for opportunities coming our way,
Speaker 4: but it's very useful to have the ability to approach
Speaker 4: someone and to be prepared for the fact that they
Speaker 4: might say no, but to just let them know, this
Speaker 4: is what I want to bring to your event. And
Speaker 4: I think that it would elevate what it is that
Speaker 4: you're trying to do. I think it would be relevant
Speaker 4: twitter is that you're trying to do and now and
Speaker 4: then people will say, yes, we hadn't thought about this,
Speaker 4: but this sounds great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So that was one of those occasions where, yeah, those guys,
Speaker 4: you know, this was their first time doing a festival
Speaker 4: of this nature, and then they hadn't planned to include
Speaker 4: a visual artist. But being proactive worked out for all
Speaker 4: of us in that sense, and then they're great folks.
Speaker 4: Bob Hart and all the folks at the Heart Center there,
Speaker 4: they're doing some really cool things and just wanting to
Speaker 4: bring people together and draw more focus to these ideas
Speaker 4: that were being explored that day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. I love that. I remember when when
Speaker 2: you guys first met. Obviously I wasn't there, right, but
Speaker 2: Alex came back. He was like, man, it was awesome.
Speaker 2: There's so many cool people, and he's like going on
Speaker 2: the list and he's like, and there is this this
Speaker 2: this artist there, Molly Chopin. And I remember looking up
Speaker 2: your Instagram and being like, oh my god, this is amazing.
Speaker 2: This is like Alex Gray type stuff. Right, That's what
Speaker 2: I was saying in my head, not having met you yet,
Speaker 2: and I don't I think I messaged you or you
Speaker 2: messaged me. Like we we started talking before we met
Speaker 2: in person. Do you remember how that went down?
Speaker 4: I think it might have been through the Discord. It
Speaker 4: might have just been through through initially connecting on discord
Speaker 4: in the community chats that you all have been hosting.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, we started coming into contact more just
Speaker 4: through Instagram, and yeah.
Speaker 2: For sure, and then it was like, uh, I you know,
Speaker 2: we started seeing each other in person, at the festivals
Speaker 2: and it's like the rest of history. But I remember
Speaker 2: seeing your art and just being like, Wow, this is amazing,
Speaker 2: and in my head I was like, this literally reminds
Speaker 2: me of Alex Gray. This is like visionary art. And
Speaker 2: you know, if you're comfortable with it, maybe at some
Speaker 2: point we could talk about why the whole Alex Gray
Speaker 2: thing there is a little weird what you have done
Speaker 2: and where you've been and how that comes into the fold.
Speaker 2: But before we get into all that, I'd like to
Speaker 2: go back and learn more about when you realized that
Speaker 2: you had a gift with art, and like, more so
Speaker 2: what it means to be an artist to you, you know.
Speaker 2: And also what I'm curious about is because you're obviously
Speaker 2: a very spiritual person, You're you're very tapped in I mean,
Speaker 2: your art is so I would say, you know, metaphysical. Yes,
Speaker 2: So it's like, what does it mean to you to
Speaker 2: channel this into your art? You know, like, let's let's
Speaker 2: just dig into it. Yeah. I don't know how to
Speaker 2: say it in an eloquent way, but I think you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right on. Yeah, Well, I've always gravitated towards visual
Speaker 4: art pretty much when I was a kid, you know,
Speaker 4: I just loved getting down with some paper mark and
Speaker 4: crans and letting the imagination flow through. And so from
Speaker 4: an early age on, I was given that feedback, Oh,
Speaker 4: you're a great artist. You make some really nice pictures.
Speaker 6: Here, keep it up.
Speaker 4: And so, yeah, from an early age on, it's been
Speaker 4: in my life. But even though that creative spark was
Speaker 4: pretty well encouraged by a lot of the folks that
Speaker 4: was surrounded by, I was a bit discouraged from following
Speaker 4: the path of being an artist. You know, don't be
Speaker 4: a starving artist. You want to have a security in
Speaker 4: this life if you can so find it. And so
Speaker 4: I found myself on the path of pursuing art education,
Speaker 4: and instead of being an artist, I was fortunate to
Speaker 4: be able to go to college and to get a
Speaker 4: degree to where I could make my living as a
Speaker 4: school teacher, still making my art on my own time
Speaker 4: when I could. But you know, really it being more
Speaker 4: on the back burner because when you are a school
Speaker 4: teacher that is not just a full time job at
Speaker 4: the school, but when you're at home too, you know,
Speaker 4: you just the work is pretty constant. And so I
Speaker 4: really had never even experienced like flow state with art
Speaker 4: up until my late twenties. You know, it's like I
Speaker 4: enjoyed it. I could witness around the other artists that
Speaker 4: would like get lost in the paints for eight hours
Speaker 4: at a time, but I myself hadn't really experienced that.
Speaker 4: So this painting practice of mine really shifted around twenty thirteen,
Speaker 4: which is when I experienced one of the shadowiest chapters
Speaker 4: of my life. I was in a marriage at the time,
Speaker 4: and it was going south pretty quickly. It was becoming
Speaker 4: physically and emotionally abusive. And I was also I'd moved
Speaker 4: to North Carolina fairly recently. My folks are all up
Speaker 4: in Pennsylvania, and so I was just in a bit
Speaker 4: of a dark place of feeling very isolated and alone
Speaker 4: and experiencing a lot of stress from my relationship. And
Speaker 4: so there was one day when my ex was out
Speaker 4: of the house and I sat down to paint and
Speaker 4: to pray about what I was experiencing. And that was
Speaker 4: the day that experienced flow state for the first time.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: And it was a day in which I just took
Speaker 4: this old portrait study that I had started in college
Speaker 4: but it never finished, and I just on that day
Speaker 4: allowed myself to relax into this state of working with
Speaker 4: colors and effects that I gravitate towards. But I had
Speaker 4: kind of gotten the sense in you know, my art
Speaker 4: schooling were a bit like non serious effects, covering everything
Speaker 4: in sparkles, using very bright colors. But that's where my
Speaker 4: joy wanted to go with the paints, and so on
Speaker 4: this day I experienced this flow state and uh, this
Speaker 4: is actually the painting that emerged from that day. Oh really, wow,
Speaker 4: this is the original painting of that old portrait study
Speaker 4: that I was working on that day, and so brightening
Speaker 4: up those colors, covering this being in sparkles.
Speaker 2: Of glare here, I'm trying to get it good. So
Speaker 2: that yeah, here, there you go.
Speaker 4: There, yep, this is what came through, and I felt transformed.
Speaker 4: At the end of this day, I felt like I
Speaker 4: had accessed a sense of the divine in a way
Speaker 4: that I never had before. And pretty much a few
Speaker 4: weeks after this painting came through is when I was
Speaker 4: able to arrive to a sense of courage to step
Speaker 4: away from the relationship and to uh set out set
Speaker 4: out on my own, and so pretty much the aftermath
Speaker 4: of that divorce was a time of great healing for
Speaker 4: me of you know, needing to process what I had
Speaker 4: been through, to process the aspects of who I was
Speaker 4: that had led me into that situation, and so painting
Speaker 4: was the number one means through which I was able
Speaker 4: to go through that processing. And it was like like
Speaker 4: when this came through, it was like a channel opened
Speaker 4: in me that had not yet been opened. And then
Speaker 4: once it had been opened, I just wanted to keep
Speaker 4: going back to that place as much as I could,
Speaker 4: because it felt like I was receiving these senses of
Speaker 4: you're gonna be okay, you know, and senses of empowerment
Speaker 4: and of just self love in that place that I
Speaker 4: wasn't experiencing a whole lot of places otherwise. So I
Speaker 4: just started painting and painting and painting pretty much from
Speaker 4: twenty thirteen onward. And now it's still that same place
Speaker 4: that I go to when I paint. It's like that
Speaker 4: channel that opened or that window that opened, it's now like,
Speaker 4: you know, there's there these inner muscles that have been
Speaker 4: activated and exercise too, and so like I can sit
Speaker 4: down at easel with a blank canvas, and even if
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going to happen when I go
Speaker 4: to sit down. Because of the exercise and of that intuition,
Speaker 4: I have this sense of trust of something's going to
Speaker 4: come through, that needs to come through, that wants to
Speaker 4: come through. And oftentimes it is, you know, a message
Speaker 4: for me of something that I really need to perhaps
Speaker 4: receive in a moment. But then when it is transmitted
Speaker 4: into this vision that gets shared with others, I receive
Speaker 4: the feedback of others being like, oh, I feel that
Speaker 4: I relate to that as well, so and that's been
Speaker 4: a big motivator and keeping going.
Speaker 2: I feel that way about a lot of please.
Speaker 6: Surprise, I'm here everyone, Yeah, I'm here. Okay, anyway, what
Speaker 6: a graceful interesting I just felt really awkward. But I've
Speaker 6: been dying to talk. I've been dying, but I'm like,
Speaker 6: nobody introduced me. But it's fine.
Speaker 2: I have a two guests today.
Speaker 6: I've been dying to ask you, Mollie. First of all,
Speaker 6: it's almost like psychic right when these things, like you said,
Speaker 6: like come through, like you're like you're hearing them from
Speaker 6: somewhere and they're coming through you and you have to
Speaker 6: get it out. That was a really cool way to
Speaker 6: hear it. But I wanted to know, like who do
Speaker 6: you know who this person is? Is this just something
Speaker 6: that you felt or is it a version of you?
Speaker 6: Or is it? Like I was just curious to know
Speaker 6: who it is because I've been staring at her for
Speaker 6: like five minutes.
Speaker 2: Now, thank you for us it's a beautiful page.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I'm like, dang, I need to know more now.
Speaker 4: And yeah, this is not a depiction of well, well,
Speaker 4: it started off of a photo from a magazine. It
Speaker 4: was an advertisement I think, you know, for something that
Speaker 4: I just appreciated the expression on the face, the form,
Speaker 4: and so like, yeah, I couldn't tell you who the
Speaker 4: person actually was, but when I started painting on it,
Speaker 4: pretty much it was just a sketch with like the
Speaker 4: lips filled in, none of the colors and effects. Otherwise.
Speaker 6: It's just interesting because it's like I was just wondering
Speaker 6: if that like because this woman almost in a way
Speaker 6: like had empowered you in a way, which is just
Speaker 6: like a very interesting relationship well in between you and
Speaker 6: this art. Even though you are the creator, it's still
Speaker 6: now a separate entity or a separate being of its own.
Speaker 6: So it's like interesting that this is what inspired you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to make that leap.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and I do kind of consider this to
Speaker 4: be like a personification of that energy. And then when
Speaker 4: coming into contact with the Bledstos and your story of
Speaker 4: you know, ultimately this this phenomenon being connected with the
Speaker 4: divine feminine, but it affected how I perceived this. It
Speaker 4: made me feel like, well, this was perhaps a kind
Speaker 4: of moment when going through some of the shadowy stuff
Speaker 4: that I've faced on my trajectory, I was blessed to
Speaker 4: have an encounter with the divine in this form. You're
Speaker 4: comforted through the form of the paint.
Speaker 6: Does the painting have a name?
Speaker 4: It's called seer as er.
Speaker 5: I like that.
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask this. This was coming in my
Speaker 2: mind very like I just feel like I have to
Speaker 2: know before this, before this encounter that, as you say
Speaker 2: very beautifully and eloquently, that it opened this channel. What
Speaker 2: kind of things were you painting? Oh?
Speaker 4: I was. I was still painting, you know, kind of
Speaker 4: like realistic sometimes with like a little bit of spin
Speaker 4: of funky surrealism brought into the mix, you know, still
Speaker 4: exploring the maaginal realm a little bit, but just not
Speaker 4: accessing that that same level of intuition that I was
Speaker 4: and so like, Yeah, I really enjoyed doing like a
Speaker 4: lot of portraits of musicians that I love, you know,
Speaker 4: just portraits of friends and family, scenes in nature, and
Speaker 4: then you know, it's just been more over time that
Speaker 4: these these spiritual principles have been wanting to come through
Speaker 4: more as that's becoming a more integral aspect of my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 6: A lot of your art it seems to have these
Speaker 6: like sparkles about them and what is so what is
Speaker 6: if I can ask what is that? Is that like
Speaker 6: a symbol for something like magical or why do you
Speaker 6: add those in there? I'm curious?
Speaker 4: Thank you for asking that. Yeah, you know, I've thought
Speaker 4: about that and just even sometimes connecting dots with how
Speaker 4: like when I used to be taken to the hardware
Speaker 4: store as a kid, I love going down that light
Speaker 4: aisle and just looking up at all the lights, like, ah,
Speaker 4: I think you know, I think they are to me
Speaker 4: symbolic of the like force that does exist behind everything.
Speaker 4: You know, that's beautiful, like a life energy. Yeah, like
Speaker 4: that that idea of we are all starlight.
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, that.
Speaker 4: Is the source from which everything has sprun for we
Speaker 4: are starlar.
Speaker 2: Brilliant cloak card. You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And yeah, and you know I can also connect the
Speaker 4: dots with connect the dots with. When I was in
Speaker 4: my early twenties, I experienced the art of Yawi Kusami
Speaker 4: for the Yawi Kusama excuse me, Yaoi Kusama for the
Speaker 4: first time. And this is a woman artist who does
Speaker 4: painting but also does installation art, and so she's become
Speaker 4: famous for these infinity rooms that she creates where the walls,
Speaker 4: the ceiling, the floor are all mirrored. And when you
Speaker 4: step into these rooms, she'll have objects or lights in
Speaker 4: the room and you feel like you're in this infinite space.
Speaker 4: And so she had one of these rooms where she
Speaker 4: had lights strands hanging from the ceiling and so that
Speaker 4: when you stepped into the mirrored infinity room effect, you
Speaker 4: felt like you were in the middle of the cosmos
Speaker 4: with just stars and galaxies around you. And there was
Speaker 4: something about that moment which I was standing in one
Speaker 4: of her rooms that struck me so much that I
Speaker 4: can recognize how that feeling that was inspired to me
Speaker 4: from being in that room is something that I wanted
Speaker 4: to convey through paint too. And then when I've heard
Speaker 4: your Dad talk about like the symbolism of the circle,
Speaker 4: and you know how that is the shape that that
Speaker 4: shows up in so many forms in this reality, and
Speaker 4: it is kind of the shape that that is the
Speaker 4: building blocks of the cosmos, you know, on both the
Speaker 4: micro and the macro levels. So there's something too about
Speaker 4: that that draws me to dot dot dot dot dot
Speaker 4: dot as a reminder of that quality of this existence.
Speaker 2: Spitten, I'm just blown away. Yeah, I mean, okay, you know,
Speaker 2: we've we've never I have never had the pleasure of
Speaker 2: really getting to set before today and sit and just
Speaker 2: just one on one, just pick your brain because we're
Speaker 2: always meeting in a festival setting, and it's just coming
Speaker 2: to me right now that, like you, as visually artistic
Speaker 2: as you are, verbally linguistically you are too. I know,
Speaker 2: he's like, but yeah, yeah, I was thinking like what
Speaker 2: I get from Molly honestly, and maybe you'll appreciate this.
Speaker 2: But have you seen the movie Contact? Yes? Okay, so
Speaker 2: remember at the end when Jodie Foster spoiler alert, amazing movie.
Speaker 2: If you have not seen the nineteen nineties movie Contact
Speaker 2: with like Jodie Foster, Matthew McConaughey and some others that
Speaker 2: I can't recall at the moment. Go watch it right now.
Speaker 2: It is genuinely one of the very best movies depicting
Speaker 2: the reality of interacting with the phenomenon anyway, so spoiler alert.
Speaker 2: At the end, she goes through the wormhole and then
Speaker 2: she's like experiencing this state of ascension and she's like
Speaker 2: communicating with the beings and all this information is like
Speaker 2: flashing into her mind and she's like in this higher
Speaker 2: awakened state of being and she's just like, I get
Speaker 2: it now. It would take a poet. It would take
Speaker 2: a poet to understand what I'm seeing. And that's kind
Speaker 2: of like what I'm getting from you, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: because if it's okay with you, I want to show
Speaker 2: this next piece, Yes, but particularly something about your art
Speaker 2: that has drawn me, and we've been talking about it tonight,
Speaker 2: as you can see on the Can they see it, Alex?
Speaker 2: The language part of and I'm gonna explain this piece
Speaker 2: or maybe you should, but yeah, let's let's do that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm the very loving and approving critic. But just like
Speaker 2: the language, Molly has this style where there's this like
Speaker 2: mystical language transcending the border and like into a lot
Speaker 2: of her paintings, and it's just making me think, like,
Speaker 2: you know, the way that you speak and the way
Speaker 2: you articulate these concepts and the way you articulate them visually,
Speaker 2: it's like you've it's awesome. Anyway, Anyway, I would love
Speaker 2: to go into this because this brings us to an
Speaker 2: amazing story that you were a part of.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4: So this painting is called Not Birds and if you
Speaker 4: were at Riverfest in October you might know why it
Speaker 4: is called this. And it's a painting that I actually
Speaker 4: started a few years ago. And this is an intuitive
Speaker 4: painting where when I started, I don't know what the
Speaker 4: end product is going to be. It's it's stepping up
Speaker 4: to the canvas, trusting that something will come through, and
Speaker 4: then just discerning well, what is the next step, what
Speaker 4: is this? What is the starting point? What is the
Speaker 4: next step, and then going for the ride really quickly.
Speaker 6: Did you know you were going to be painting this
Speaker 6: or you had absolutely no idea what you were going
Speaker 6: to be painting, Like, did you know you were going
Speaker 6: to be painting the Not Birds or nope, okay no, interesting, So.
Speaker 2: It just became that ye hold it for you, sure,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 4: When I started it, I had the moon in mind,
Speaker 4: and then just all of this abstract patterning that is
Speaker 4: behind these creatures that are seen here, and you know,
Speaker 4: I just reached a point with it where I wasn't
Speaker 4: quite sure it was going to happen next a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago, and so it was in my studio.
Speaker 4: You know, I oftentimes have several paintings going on at
Speaker 4: the same time, and some get done within a few weeks,
Speaker 4: a few months, some a few years. So this was
Speaker 4: one that was waiting for a few years. But what
Speaker 4: ended up happening was I was able to go out
Speaker 4: to Riverfest to meet up with the Bledsoaw crew for
Speaker 4: the first time at a group skywatching event this past
Speaker 4: October outside of Heart Festival, and we witnessed a miracle
Speaker 4: on the beach that Sunday night. You know, we were
Speaker 4: all of us gathered, the crowd of two hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty so of us are on the beach and we're
Speaker 4: seeing all of these orbs flying overhead, and some of
Speaker 4: them start flashing at us and flaring up at us,
Speaker 4: and it's just you know, outstanding experience that alone. But
Speaker 4: then we're standing there watching this orb coming out that
Speaker 4: Chris seniors pointing out, and as all of us are
Speaker 4: looking at this orb coming at us from overhead, come
Speaker 4: flying what I can only describe as these these forced
Speaker 4: spheares of energy that were way closer to us as
Speaker 4: a crowd than the orbs that we'd been seeing thus far.
Speaker 4: And as these translucent yet somehow glowing spheres of energy
Speaker 4: fly over us, all standing together. Suddenly their shape changes
Speaker 4: and then they flare out. They're no longer spheres, but
Speaker 4: just these these amorphous shapes in the sky. And then
Speaker 4: as we're all looking and they're flying overhead, so they
Speaker 4: coalesce back together into spheres. They fly off into the distance,
Speaker 4: but they don't disappear off in the distance. They dematerialize
Speaker 4: only a few moments after they flew overhead. And then
Speaker 4: everyone's on the beach just like, did you see that?
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Then some folks were wondering, well, wait a second, we're
Speaker 4: those birds. They kind of move like birds. And then
Speaker 4: all of these folks you're like, no, no, no, those
Speaker 4: are not birds, not birds, not birds. And so that
Speaker 4: is what we have here celebration of what was that
Speaker 4: moment when these force spheres of energy flew over ahead.
Speaker 4: That just defied anything that I've experienced in my life
Speaker 4: thus far as supernatural sighting wise, And so I chose
Speaker 4: to depict them with this form that is a little bit.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: I guess owl inspired because that has been you know,
Speaker 4: an integral part of the Bledsoe's story and mine too. Actually,
Speaker 4: the Owls have been hanging out with me for a while,
Speaker 4: even before I came into contact with your story.
Speaker 6: But uh, and did you watch that episode with Mike Clellon?
Speaker 2: Yeah, owl guy?
Speaker 6: Did you know about him before? No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, I think it lives pretty near here. I
Speaker 2: was trying to get in close to the camera over there,
Speaker 2: but it looks like it was like not white balanced
Speaker 2: and it's kind of washed out. So maybe what we
Speaker 2: can do is we can because it's kind of really
Speaker 2: hard to see the detail of this through the video. Yes,
Speaker 2: we could drop like an image of it at least
Speaker 2: when we bring it up. Does it have to be
Speaker 2: the whole time, But like, I would really like people
Speaker 2: to see this painting, just even if it's just like
Speaker 2: a moment they can pause it and look.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I'm happy to share files any type that
Speaker 4: you all need.
Speaker 2: That'd be great. Yeah, but this is a profound painting
Speaker 2: to me. I wanted to get close and see how
Speaker 2: it turned out in the camera, but it's it's hard
Speaker 2: to make out the the details. You're doing a good job. Oh,
Speaker 2: thank you, Bryan.
Speaker 6: You yeah, that's exactly what you look like.
Speaker 2: Thank you. You're rocking at thank you. But I just
Speaker 2: love that you know the language that that keeps it.
Speaker 2: Like I told you before we started filming, it reminded
Speaker 2: me of Elvis from Lord of the Ring Yees. You know.
Speaker 2: You you described what it is to you and and
Speaker 2: and that's true, but I think it's all the same thing.
Speaker 2: I think it's all the if I could give my interpretation, yes,
Speaker 2: it's to me, it's like you are a seer. That's
Speaker 2: why you had your profound transformation when you I mean
Speaker 2: even you show up and you've got the third eye thing,
Speaker 2: and you know that's like so signal.
Speaker 6: Is that an Alex Gray piece?
Speaker 4: This is Alex Gray?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a shout out to the wonderful, magical Alex Gray.
Speaker 2: And I would love to get into that. And yes,
Speaker 2: of course we love our Alex's. But the notion that
Speaker 2: I that is like unfolding about you to me, the
Speaker 2: more time I spend with you, is that you are
Speaker 2: a seer or more or less like like an oracle
Speaker 2: from from as you were talking about earlier, like the
Speaker 2: etheric realm, and you've been burdened with this beautiful but
Speaker 2: heavy burden of translating these beautiful mystical heaven escapes or
Speaker 2: whatever it is that you call them. But to me,
Speaker 2: a lot of your paintings look like what I would
Speaker 2: imagine is heaven, you know, just these magical divine images.
Speaker 2: It's it's like a higher level of conceptualization that is
Speaker 2: so beyond fathom. How do I process this? How do
Speaker 2: I imagine this? How do I interpret this? What does
Speaker 2: this mean? There's not many people that can paint like this.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're aware of that.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of visionary painters out in this world
Speaker 4: actually doing some pretty magical stuff. I thank you for Well,
Speaker 4: I haven't met what you said, but I am actually
Speaker 4: just very blessed to know many wonderful visual artists that
Speaker 4: are taking inspiration from similar realms. And I've been blessed
Speaker 4: to have some wonderful teachers along my journey too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I would say to that, though,
Speaker 2: that I'm a podcaster and I know a lot of podcasters,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And you're a visionary painter,
Speaker 2: therefore you know a lot of visionary painters. But that
Speaker 2: doesn't make you any less amazing.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. And what you're doing in
Speaker 2: the gift that you have, and it's incredible, And like.
Speaker 6: I'm having a boss staring at all of them. I know,
Speaker 6: by the way they're scattered in this room, all work,
Speaker 6: and I just keep staring at all of them because
Speaker 6: they're so different. Yeah, it's so distinct in your style.
Speaker 6: You have a very distinct style, but yet all of
Speaker 6: the colors that are used are so different and they
Speaker 6: mesh so well. Yeah, I mean it's cool. It's one
Speaker 6: thing seeing it online, which I've always thought you were
Speaker 6: an amazing artist. We have pieces of your work, but
Speaker 6: then seeing the ones in person is just it's different.
Speaker 6: It is different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that one right there.
Speaker 6: I know, I keep staring at the white line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we need to show that one too, we
Speaker 2: do so again, I keep coming back to the language thing.
Speaker 2: You just you remind me of Jodie Foster from Contact.
Speaker 2: Like I can tell you right now, I am not
Speaker 2: an artist. I hear sounds, you know, I do drums.
Speaker 2: I hear rhythm, boom boom boom boom boom sounds, and
Speaker 2: kind of a mathematical numeric thing. When it comes to
Speaker 2: visual stuff, I'm like, I was a disaster in art
Speaker 2: class in school. I cannot draw, I mean arm or something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I did it, which made it worse because I broke
Speaker 2: my right arm. And then for our class I had
Speaker 2: to draw my left arm, which was anyway.
Speaker 6: But you didn't have to do pottery or anything. No,
Speaker 6: I did with one arm.
Speaker 2: No, that was freshman year.
Speaker 6: That's just what I meant.
Speaker 2: I broke freshman year of art. I was in art
Speaker 2: for three.
Speaker 6: Years as long as he didn't have to do with anything.
Speaker 2: No, not in that class. But anyway, it's just like
Speaker 2: I I can't like, I can't imagine. I can't fathom
Speaker 2: creating something like this.
Speaker 4: Oh it's next level, No, thank you. I feel the
Speaker 4: same way about musicians.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: When I see the work that musicians do, it's it's
Speaker 4: a parallel process of you know, layering these sounds, finding harmonies,
Speaker 4: making all the choices. But but how do you guys
Speaker 4: do it? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that. I do get that, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's the same thing that that I feel about art,
Speaker 2: you know, and this this, but the thing is about
Speaker 2: your art is there's this theme that keeps coming through
Speaker 2: of this there's this mystical language that you know, maybe
Speaker 2: it's fiction, maybe it's symbolic of something that's real, it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It keeps coming through and it's important to you.
Speaker 6: And that's channeled.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's it's what I call the language of flow state.
Speaker 4: You know, as we were talking about before, so some
Speaker 4: people would call this light language or light code, but
Speaker 4: I like to call it the language of flow state
Speaker 4: because that is the state that I'm in when I'm
Speaker 4: creating it. When I was teaching art, I really got into, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, left side of the brain, right side of
Speaker 4: the brain, ideas about how each different one functions, and
Speaker 4: really connected with this concept of the left side of
Speaker 4: our brain or more scientific, analytical, logical side being you know,
Speaker 4: the one that's kind of god its hands on a
Speaker 4: steering wheels most of the time for a lot of us.
Speaker 4: But the right side of the brain are intuitive, creative, visual,
Speaker 4: spatial oriented side of the brain. That's that's where flow
Speaker 4: state is experienced, and so when I'm creating this language,
Speaker 4: I am purposely shutting off the left side of my brain,
Speaker 4: which is inclined to want to create familiar looking lines
Speaker 4: and shapes to represent perhaps language that that I know,
Speaker 4: that side of the brain's getting shut off. Right side
Speaker 4: of the brain is getting activated, and I'm just purely
Speaker 4: listening to that intuition, instinct telling me what shape wants
Speaker 4: to come next. Yeah, and sometimes I've experimented with putting
Speaker 4: a little more intention into the marks of creating more
Speaker 4: of like a you know, a specific scigul for a
Speaker 4: particular word or energy that I am wanting to imprint
Speaker 4: within the painting. But more often it is just accessing
Speaker 4: the flow zone and letting it come through.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. It's obviously something is like have you seen
Speaker 2: the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind? Yes, you know,
Speaker 2: when he's like had this profound experience and Odin, we're
Speaker 2: having a conversation here, buddy. My cats are going crazy
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: But they both want to be in your life.
Speaker 2: The actually Odin wanted to be in your life, but
Speaker 2: you were talking and you didn't notice. Yeah, he probably
Speaker 2: would come on. But anyway, so like Close encounters are
Speaker 2: the third kind. He has this you can just pick
Speaker 2: him up. He has this like crazy experience and you
Speaker 2: know he's like making the mashed potato. That's kind of like,
Speaker 2: that's that's what your art reminds me of that. You know,
Speaker 2: maybe in the subtle level of consciousness, your mind is
Speaker 2: connecting to something that is not ordinarily being interpreted.
Speaker 4: I think it's a really cool scene that that you
Speaker 4: bring up in considering what is going on here.
Speaker 2: Something's going on.
Speaker 4: I haven't thought about like that scene in relation to
Speaker 4: what I do, But now that I'm thinking about it,
Speaker 4: I am totally those folks wanting to car things.
Speaker 6: Out of potatoes.
Speaker 4: A lot of time that I'm sitting down to paint,
Speaker 4: it is it's like something has to come through. You
Speaker 4: sometimes just have this urge that cannot be ignored, and
Speaker 4: it will only be alleviated once it's put out somewhere,
Speaker 4: whether it be just a quick sketch of Okay, we're
Speaker 4: gonna make this, no painting later, or we got to
Speaker 4: get to that blank canvas now, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So do you just keep a lot of blank
Speaker 6: canvases or do you kind of like you're like, okay,
Speaker 6: step one I know, I have to buy a canvas,
Speaker 6: and then you kind of meditate on it.
Speaker 4: We're like, yeah, I try to have some on hand always,
Speaker 4: and then you know, sometimes it is just that that
Speaker 4: idea comes through and then I know, okay, this is
Speaker 4: the size and shape of the canvas that we need
Speaker 4: to acquire for this.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and you.
Speaker 4: Know, I tend to work more in one offs than series.
Speaker 4: I'm actually looking to grow into focusing more on series,
Speaker 4: where you know, a singular idea is perhaps explored in
Speaker 4: multiple ways visually. But a lot of my works have
Speaker 4: just been and uh, you know that one message that
Speaker 4: wants to come through, and it does, and then you know,
Speaker 4: it's just a waiting for that next inspiration to arrive.
Speaker 4: And it's not necessarily trying to repeat a particular style
Speaker 4: or scheme or idea. It's just wanting to keep listening
Speaker 4: to whatever it is that I'm in collaboration with. And
Speaker 4: so yeah, that that is why I think you can
Speaker 4: see a bit of like diversity of style and themes
Speaker 4: amongst my work.
Speaker 6: Have you ever like thought about if you were to
Speaker 6: do a series, what what it would be, or like,
Speaker 6: are you drawn to a specific theme?
Speaker 4: Yeah, right now, actually I have initiated a skywatcher series.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, that was not planned, everybody.
Speaker 6: That was not planned. I had no idea she was
Speaker 6: gonna say that's crazy.
Speaker 4: It's and and actually, yeah, the one of the works
Speaker 4: in progress at home right now is a two foot
Speaker 4: by three foot canvas that taking inspiration from our beach
Speaker 4: sky watching where you know, you got some group shots
Speaker 4: of us, you know, we were out there and and
Speaker 4: like when I was out there at Riverfest, one of
Speaker 4: those group shots was great because as we were all
Speaker 4: still gathered up, sightings started to happen. And so there's
Speaker 4: this great photo that you took of like everyone's still
Speaker 4: kind of clustered up, but you got all these people
Speaker 4: pointing up at the sky. I know, it so cool.
Speaker 4: I've taken some inspiration from that photo and depicting a
Speaker 4: scene of the beach with just the crowd pointing up,
Speaker 4: everyone in silhouette form, you know, like and then yeah,
Speaker 4: we're gonna bring into the sky just as much inspiration
Speaker 4: as can be depicted of of what it feels like
Speaker 4: to witness the orbs and the not birds and.
Speaker 6: And not to like distract from that, but like you're
Speaker 6: talking about the pointing and for the first time ever
Speaker 6: at this last Azalea fest that we had just had.
Speaker 6: Were you at the SkyWatch on Sunday or just Saturday?
Speaker 4: Sunday was the one I was at.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and like the lights that were really that got
Speaker 6: really bright? Yes, Okay. So I was next to Christinior
Speaker 6: all night and it was so I was like sobbing
Speaker 6: if anybody saw me there, which I've done this five
Speaker 6: bajillion times, like I have done this and done this
Speaker 6: and done this, but for some reason that felt so
Speaker 6: strong to me because I was next to Christenior and
Speaker 6: he had his hand up right, which he does that
Speaker 6: quite often, but that was the first time ever I
Speaker 6: was feeling empowered and I was like, I want this
Speaker 6: to happen so bad. I want this to show itself
Speaker 6: so bad and flash or just do something dynamic or different,
Speaker 6: you know, and right whenever we had our hands up
Speaker 6: and I felt like I was like little baby Yoda
Speaker 6: with a force or I literally did. And then it
Speaker 6: just did that thing where it just exploded, and I
Speaker 6: literally started sobbing because it felt like so much energy
Speaker 6: and you wanted it so bad, and then it happened,
Speaker 6: and I literally people have it in so much footage.
Speaker 6: I feel so bad. But I was like, ah, oh
Speaker 6: my gosh, I can't believe that just happened, and I
Speaker 6: just burst down into tears. So I like, so the
Speaker 6: pointing is I almost just wonder is there something to that?
Speaker 6: I don't know?
Speaker 2: I think so it's something that the intention well, yeah,
Speaker 2: and the connection. It's just like, I mean, the hand
Speaker 2: is just an extension of the mind, right, the whole
Speaker 2: body is just an extension of the mind. Everything is
Speaker 2: an extension of the mind.
Speaker 6: And I was just thinking about how like when magic
Speaker 6: is portrayed oftentime, it's with a wave of a hand,
Speaker 6: or it's with you know, some form of or like
Speaker 6: villains and shows might like kind of what you know,
Speaker 6: is that physical gesture yes of coming at you or
Speaker 6: something I don't know. So it's just like the I
Speaker 6: don't know, the pointing. All of that's very powerful. I'm
Speaker 6: excited to see what that turns into. Thank you. They excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into another painting, like we have so
Speaker 2: many in here. Yeah, maybe we've.
Speaker 5: Got a quick question for you. Yes, do you have
Speaker 5: a favorite or they like children.
Speaker 4: Love the controversial more of the second thing. Yeah, they
Speaker 4: are so many. Yeah, each one I got to appreciate
Speaker 4: in and of itself for what it is. I guess
Speaker 4: when people ask me that question, though, I do point
Speaker 4: out one in particular, and this is.
Speaker 2: Hey, I haven't seen this one.
Speaker 4: Print reproduction of an original painting. The original painting was
Speaker 4: about twenty two inches by twenty eight inches. But when
Speaker 4: people ask me the favorite, I go to this one
Speaker 4: because this is a depiction of a regional burning man
Speaker 4: gathering that used to happen outside of Asheville, North Carolina.
Speaker 4: And this is the community that I just hold so
Speaker 4: much regard for in terms of, you know, showing me
Speaker 4: how some humans can be when when we can find
Speaker 4: ourselves in certain settings where inhibitions can come down, hearts
Speaker 4: can be open, and people feel safe to be with
Speaker 4: each other and to express their their true shiny selves.
Speaker 4: And so this took fourteen months to create this. It
Speaker 4: was a it was a commission by a friend who
Speaker 4: wanted to celebrate this gathering, and it was commissioned in
Speaker 4: mid twenty twenty when you know, we weren't sure if
Speaker 4: we were going to be able to gather like this again,
Speaker 4: so many events were canceled that year.
Speaker 6: But that was a little moth down there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's well, that's a little costumed person wearing some
Speaker 4: So this was a photo. Well, no, this was this
Speaker 4: is a real place, Like there's a real place outside
Speaker 4: of Asheville called Deer Fields, which is a depiction of
Speaker 4: And so the landscape is based off of that actual
Speaker 4: landscape of a lake with mountains back here and a
Speaker 4: big open field in front of pavilion. But then all
Speaker 4: of the details of the people and the art in
Speaker 4: the stre ructures and the fire, all these things that
Speaker 4: you would see at a at a regional burn gathering
Speaker 4: where details that I designed into this scene, working from
Speaker 4: photos from the gathering from over the years. But the
Speaker 4: details in here are specific to actual people and art
Speaker 4: works and uh, you know camps that were set up
Speaker 4: and so these uh, transformational gatherings, these communities that can
Speaker 4: inspire that level of creative expression and open heartedness are
Speaker 4: just one of the favorite things that I found in
Speaker 4: this life. And you know, I really do celebrate what
Speaker 4: I perceive to be you all the BLOODSOE said. So
Speaker 4: community as as cultivating folks in a similar manner as
Speaker 4: you know, I've now witnessed at two of the festivals
Speaker 4: that that you all have hosted a booth at you're
Speaker 4: inspiring very much a similar level of that safety, open heartedness,
Speaker 4: let's connect and be our true selves with each other.
Speaker 6: Well, we feel it too, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I think it's just like we talked
Speaker 2: about earlier before recording, that it's we're all broadcasting a
Speaker 2: signal to the universe. We've all been through, whether it's
Speaker 2: some sort of spiritual awakening or rather like traumatic experience
Speaker 2: therefore a spiritual awakening, something in all of our individual
Speaker 2: stories that have caused us to just broadcast that signal
Speaker 2: to the universe and say, I need to meet people
Speaker 2: who are like me so that I can feel less alone.
Speaker 2: And I think that there are now a lot of
Speaker 2: people in the world doing that, and you know, it's
Speaker 2: it's bringing us together, and it's the same as that.
Speaker 2: It's the same as well. I mean, I think it's
Speaker 2: happening in many in many different settings, you know, and
Speaker 2: we're just kind of like one of those settings. But
Speaker 2: it's to me, it's the same setting. It's the same purpose,
Speaker 2: same spirit, yeah, exactly, seeking you know, a connection with
Speaker 2: something higher.
Speaker 6: But I didn't expect this from the I didn't either.
Speaker 6: I didn't expect this to cultivate in the way that
Speaker 6: it did, honestly, Like I thought it would be this
Speaker 6: thing where it's like, okay, like meet us here, come
Speaker 6: get your book signed, and people come by, and then
Speaker 6: we never see him again, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: I guess they like us and then come back and
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh my gosh, really you're coming again like that,
Speaker 6: and that gets me excited knowing that we're seeing the
Speaker 6: same group of people again.
Speaker 2: It's like from farther place.
Speaker 6: And I told them, I'm like, you guys don't understand,
Speaker 6: but we like think about you too, Like we'll randomly
Speaker 6: be on the couch and just be like, hey, do
Speaker 6: you see what so and so posted today? Like it's
Speaker 6: just like and even Ryan was saying something like they've
Speaker 6: got their own inside jokes now that not even I
Speaker 6: am a part of. Just like, yeah, that's what happens,
Speaker 6: is like, that's how you That's a clear indicator that
Speaker 6: a community is growing. Yes, when people have this love
Speaker 6: for one another and want to keep coming back and
Speaker 6: engaging with each other.
Speaker 2: You know it's something real. When you have like the
Speaker 2: visionary painter who's here depicting scenes from this glorious night
Speaker 2: of miracles and the freaking sky that hundreds of people seeing.
Speaker 2: And then you've got the guy with the platter of
Speaker 2: corn fritters, you know, serving them to everybody. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: And it's just it's just like this is a festival
Speaker 2: without it being a festival, you know what I mean. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean we were at a festival, but I mean
Speaker 2: the party after the you know what i mean, Yeah,
Speaker 2: on the beach, the SkyWatch all.
Speaker 6: That literally just a street fair though, like totally free
Speaker 6: of charge, just like come.
Speaker 2: Hang, we've got our own thing within the thing, I know, and.
Speaker 7: The whole city is like, oh yeah, yeah, we've been
Speaker 7: getting calls and calls and that's before we had even
Speaker 7: like secured the we hadn't secured our ticket to have
Speaker 7: a booth yet, and people already had their hotels and we're.
Speaker 6: Like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Stress.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it just shows that, I don't know, the
Speaker 6: community is so strong and I'm so glad that it's
Speaker 6: going this way, and it is so cool.
Speaker 4: It's organic. It is like a natural thing that these
Speaker 4: people are finding you and then each other, which you know,
Speaker 4: is how Burning Man got started. Like this kind of
Speaker 4: transformational gathering was initially just friends getting together on a
Speaker 4: beach out near San Francisco, and like the mid eighties,
Speaker 4: they're just like, wouldn't it be fun just get together
Speaker 4: on the beach and burn some something together. And then
Speaker 4: after they had that first gathering, decide, let's come back
Speaker 4: new this again next year. And then each year it
Speaker 4: get growing and growing and growing until it got to
Speaker 4: that point of, Okay, we may need a new location.
Speaker 4: The beach isn't big enough for us anymore. And then
Speaker 4: it moved out to the desert, and you know, the
Speaker 4: social experiment of just a few folks gathered on the
Speaker 4: beach in the eighties transpired to eighty thousand people gathered
Speaker 4: in the desert in twenty nineteen, and so, yeah, it's just.
Speaker 6: Wait, was so that was that the one? Wasn't there
Speaker 6: one burning Man that was like iconic? Was it that one?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes?
Speaker 4: The yeah, like the burning Man community, A lot of
Speaker 4: folk are familiar with it through this big gathering that
Speaker 4: happens annually out west in the desert black Rock City,
Speaker 4: just like just outside of Reno, Nevada. But then there's
Speaker 4: these regional gatherings that happen all over the world that
Speaker 4: are not as large as that one usually, but the
Speaker 4: same spirit, and so I continue to go to one
Speaker 4: annually each year. That's only like two and a half
Speaker 4: hours from me in Raleigh. It's about eight hundred people,
Speaker 4: and it is it's that same spirit, a beautiful ritual
Speaker 4: for folks to come together and connect in some very
Speaker 4: creatively expressive spaces where where again that that radical self expression,
Speaker 4: radical inclusion is encouraged as well as you know, the
Speaker 4: spirit of decommodification. Bring in everything that you'll need to survive,
Speaker 4: but then also everything you want to give to the community.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's just I highly recommend the experience if
Speaker 4: you've never been to a burn gathering before for those
Speaker 4: who are curious and feeling a call. But yeah, just
Speaker 4: I am very drawn to like this community that you
Speaker 4: all are cultivating again just for that similarity of experience.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that says a lot. That that really
Speaker 2: says a lot to me that this very hugely famous,
Speaker 2: notorious thing that's been going on for like forty years
Speaker 2: and you're like really kind of pumping me up here
Speaker 2: saying we're doing the same thing with our with our
Speaker 2: little skywatches on the Beach. It's like, man, this this
Speaker 2: is kind of monumental to me. I mean I feel like,
Speaker 2: who knows where it will be in a year, two years,
Speaker 2: three years. I mean not necessarily in terms of numbers,
Speaker 2: but in terms of energy. Yes, yes, because it's not
Speaker 2: I'm realizing now it's not about number of people, it's
Speaker 2: about the impact. Impact goes beyond numbers.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm with you, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: The fact that anyone would fly from Denmark or from Columbia,
Speaker 2: from Germany, from from.
Speaker 6: Honestly than yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But but I mean we're talking across the world.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like all these people coming out here and getting
Speaker 2: together and they're just the nicest people, and then these
Speaker 2: experiences that we're having and it's like, god, man, I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm looking at the Mona Lisa of Orbs
Speaker 2: right now like this, I mean, this is really feels
Speaker 2: profound to me.
Speaker 6: Like you need to put that as like a review,
Speaker 6: the Mona Lisa of Orbs Ryan.
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, like, I feel like
Speaker 2: something really is happening here, and it's like some modern
Speaker 2: psychedelic Da Vinci wink wink, you know, the thing is
Speaker 2: happening here with these experiences that were like very humbly
Speaker 2: gathering on the beach, you know, kind of like Burning Man, right,
Speaker 2: but you know, just to have skywatches with people and
Speaker 2: it's it's it's crazy, but.
Speaker 6: I'm curious, I don't, did I cut you off? I'm sorry,
Speaker 6: I'm curious as to like do people come there and
Speaker 6: bring stuff to burn?
Speaker 4: So the titled burning Man comes from the tradition of
Speaker 4: this gathering. There's very few like scheduled events or you know,
Speaker 4: traditions within the gatherings themselves, like each one is unique
Speaker 4: and different. Is like the gathering is going to depend
Speaker 4: upon the people that participate. Whatever people bring to this
Speaker 4: gathering is what will entail. With the exception of the
Speaker 4: tradition of every Saturday night at one of these gatherings
Speaker 4: there is a burn of just a large structure of
Speaker 4: sorts what we call it the effigy, which you know
Speaker 4: is usually a grant funded project for an artist to
Speaker 4: create for the event. You know, just find someone who
Speaker 4: knows how to do some woodworking fabrication and it's like, hey,
Speaker 4: we'll give you some funds if you have an idea
Speaker 4: on some massive structure that you want to build that
Speaker 4: we can set up for a few days at this event,
Speaker 4: only to then burn down in front of everyone. We'll
Speaker 4: give you the funds to do that.
Speaker 6: And I've seen him before. They were like a little human.
Speaker 6: It reminds me of the wicker Man for some reason.
Speaker 6: Have you seen that movie.
Speaker 4: I've not seen the movie, but I know what you're
Speaker 4: speaking of. And and certainly the one out west they
Speaker 4: usually do have the same design of an effigy each year,
Speaker 4: of some kind of like human looking figures.
Speaker 2: Yes, so what is the point of burning the effigy?
Speaker 4: It's, you know, embracing the combination of radical self expression
Speaker 4: as well as the temporary nature of all things. It's interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's it's you know, like celebrating that quality of
Speaker 4: this existence of you know, like we're so many of us,
Speaker 4: relatively speaking, here and gone in the blink of an eye,
Speaker 4: as are everything that we bring into this existence and
Speaker 4: creating this world. And yet it's still so worth it.
Speaker 4: It's still so worthwhile. And so this act of burning
Speaker 4: this structure, you know, is a bit of like a
Speaker 4: recognition of that as well as an empowering act of
Speaker 4: you know, we are able to accept that this is
Speaker 4: the state of things. At least that's my interpretation.
Speaker 2: It seems like a.
Speaker 6: Good place to go though, Like if you're really ticked off,
Speaker 6: like you know, people like burn letters, you know, it's
Speaker 6: just to kind of have that cleansing of like, you
Speaker 6: know what, I'm gonna write this letter down to my
Speaker 6: ex or whoever, and I'm gonna burn it and get
Speaker 6: rid of it. That kind of reminds me of that too,
Speaker 6: to allow for like some regeneration, yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: And so the only other tradition at these gatherings besides
Speaker 4: the effigy structure burn is what we then call the
Speaker 4: temple structure burn, which is more of like a structure
Speaker 4: designed for the kind of things that you're speaking of.
Speaker 4: This is something that would happen Sunday night after this
Speaker 4: Saturday night burn, and the temple structure at these gatherings
Speaker 4: is a space that gets set up more for people
Speaker 4: to participate in, like in the way and you're speaking
Speaker 4: the ways in which you are speaking of, where you
Speaker 4: go into this space and maybe you write something on
Speaker 4: the wall that is tied to something that you want
Speaker 4: to either release or honor, or you put objects within
Speaker 4: the space that you're wanting to release through like a
Speaker 4: fire ritual. And then Sunday night, the temple gets lit
Speaker 4: up as well, it gets burnt down and everything within
Speaker 4: it gets burnt. And that is more of like a somber,
Speaker 4: reflective burning event that allows people to have more of
Speaker 4: that kind of experience you're describing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's just the first thing that comes to mind
Speaker 6: for me. Yeah, it's really cool. I didn't realize that
Speaker 6: there were a bunch of little ones I've only ever
Speaker 6: seen i think that iconic imagery from some of the
Speaker 6: other ones out west.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's really neat. Yeah, and you know, there
Speaker 4: are folks that do bring smaller sculptures to burn a
Speaker 4: lot of folks that know how to spin fire come
Speaker 4: to these gatherings and share the gift of their fire
Speaker 4: spinning with the community.
Speaker 6: Wait let me okay, So, if some of this is
Speaker 6: happening in the desert, aren't the winds high?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 6: So I'm like, is this a hazard? Is this ilegal?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's yes, it is all. Yes. There's there's
Speaker 4: you know, permits and and structural logistical things that are
Speaker 4: put into place to ensure that these gatherings will be
Speaker 4: as safe as they can be. But yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: winds are high out there. I've been to the one
Speaker 4: out west once and watching those big structure fires burn,
Speaker 4: it's amazing. You have this cold desert wind that is
Speaker 4: blowing into this massive fire and it spins out like
Speaker 4: these smoke tornadoes off at one end of the fire
Speaker 4: that look like, you know, real tornadoes spinning across the desert.
Speaker 4: But but they're just smoke. And it's just that cold
Speaker 4: air hot fire combo that does that. And and yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's an experience the fire.
Speaker 6: Does it end up being like blue? You know how
Speaker 6: like the hottest flame is like blue? Like is the
Speaker 6: middle like blue? And then it I don't know.
Speaker 4: Sometimes yeah, yeah, especially if people throw those things in
Speaker 4: there that make them change funk colors. But but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: those those fires get hot. Yeah, They're they're huge, and
Speaker 4: it's like you can, you know, only get so close
Speaker 4: to them. You think like you're you're many yards away
Speaker 4: and you cannot get any closer because of just how
Speaker 4: hot they are burning. But you're in the desert. There's
Speaker 4: plenty of rooms, right Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, Well I have to ask because it's just like
Speaker 2: I've blinked and it's been an hour now and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, we do have to hit on this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I would love to know how you got involved with
Speaker 2: the experience of going and I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is the accurate term, but like collaborating with Alex Gray.
Speaker 4: Yes, right on, thank you? Yeah. I So the Grays,
Speaker 4: Alex and Alison, they have their spot up at COSM,
Speaker 4: and you know, they several times a year off her
Speaker 4: workshop painting intensives where anyone who was interested in learning
Speaker 4: from them and studying with them can apply to one
Speaker 4: of these workshops where you would then get to go
Speaker 4: and live on the grounds of COSM for a week
Speaker 4: and have painting sessions with them every day, share meals
Speaker 4: with them, and then you know, stay overnight in a
Speaker 4: house on the grounds alongside other artists. And so I
Speaker 4: was blessed to be able to participate in one of
Speaker 4: these workshops. How many other people there's twenty that were
Speaker 4: part of the workshop that I was a part of.
Speaker 4: And this is a visionary painting intensive workshop. So everyone
Speaker 4: who participated in this was as serious of a painter
Speaker 4: as passionate of a painter as I am, and so
Speaker 4: I applied to him, was accepted into this intensive last
Speaker 4: year and went up in July and got to hanging
Speaker 4: out with them for a whole week, and it was amazing,
Speaker 4: you know, Like I have been influenced to buy their
Speaker 4: work for about sixteen years. Anytime anyone's asked me who
Speaker 4: my favorite artists are, I've always considered Alison and Alex
Speaker 4: in the top five. I can't really choose the one,
Speaker 4: but it's impossible. Yeah, and yeah, just it was such
Speaker 4: a fulfilling time. I just was so appreciative of getting
Speaker 4: to know more of a sense of who they are
Speaker 4: as people, to know more of the depths of their
Speaker 4: inspiration and where they're coming from, and to really enjoy
Speaker 4: just some like awesome down to earth and silly moments
Speaker 4: with them too, you know. And so yeah, I while
Speaker 4: I was up there, you know, got into some great
Speaker 4: conversations with Alex about UFO stuff. It's its topic he's
Speaker 4: gravitated towards for a while, as well as other folks
Speaker 4: that are on staff at COSM. And I had a
Speaker 4: copy of UFO of God up there with me.
Speaker 2: Which is amazing.
Speaker 4: While we were in the painting intensive, I had a
Speaker 4: little table next to my easel where I would keep
Speaker 4: all of my supplies and so I had a copy
Speaker 4: of that book out on that table, and another artist
Speaker 4: that was part of the intensive they recognized the book
Speaker 4: and was like, oh, yeah, I listened to Blood, so said.
Speaker 2: So that's you never told us.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Another artist that was part of it, Todd Keffer was
Speaker 4: his name, And then yeah, I had a chat with
Speaker 4: Alex about it briefly. He was like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 4: saw that book on your table and I was looking
Speaker 4: at it. That looks really interesting. So yeah, I really
Speaker 4: enjoyed getting to share with him and Alison about your story.
Speaker 4: They had not yet heard about the Bloedsos, even though
Speaker 4: they've had their eye on UFO things for a while.
Speaker 4: And so then I was blessed to be able to
Speaker 4: return to Cosm in November of last year to live
Speaker 4: paint at one of their Full Moon ceremonies. They host
Speaker 4: a monthly Full Moons ceremony where folks can come out
Speaker 4: and congregate together and have a like celebration of spirit
Speaker 4: in a non denominational way where the Grays will choose
Speaker 4: like a theme of the months to focus upon and
Speaker 4: then you know, offer some presentations, lectures, depictions of artwork
Speaker 4: that are tied to that theme, invite performers to come
Speaker 4: to the ceremony and show it's wonderful.
Speaker 2: Let's go sometime, as long as it's not the kind
Speaker 2: of thing where I have to paint because I cannot
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, you can.
Speaker 7: Ryan.
Speaker 4: Don't use limiting like I'm limiting that one. Well, actually, yeah,
Speaker 4: I appreciate you say that, Jennifer, because.
Speaker 6: I have some of Ryan's pottery downstairs.
Speaker 2: You do not want to see it, and we are
Speaker 2: not going to show.
Speaker 6: She will be she can see it, you will witness it, Okay.
Speaker 4: But I just want to say that a lot more
Speaker 4: people are capable of painting than many realize.
Speaker 6: A hundred percent. Ryan is one of the most creative
Speaker 6: people I know. And if you can do it with
Speaker 6: his ears, he can do.
Speaker 4: It with his If we broke it down steps I step,
Speaker 4: I have no doubt you could do it singing too.
Speaker 6: Emily's always like Ryan, you can sing if you really
Speaker 6: try it. He's like, no, I couldn't sing, but he can.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's the keyword is yet.
Speaker 2: I would I would love to actually go to one
Speaker 2: of these cosm events as long as it's not an
Speaker 2: intensive workshop where you're trying to learn to paint. I would.
Speaker 2: I would love to go to that.
Speaker 4: You would you would enjoy the full moon ceremony, I think?
Speaker 4: Then yeah, And then they always host art Church the
Speaker 4: next day, which is just like a casual come together
Speaker 4: everyone who wants to meditate upon a theme together and
Speaker 4: then we'll we'll make art together, and then we'll share
Speaker 4: about the art that we make.
Speaker 6: You literally just said art church.
Speaker 2: I mean I would certainly try. I would. I would
Speaker 2: certainly try if it was like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 2: in a room with Alex Gray and we're doing this
Speaker 2: thing where you know what I mean, Like, I would,
Speaker 2: I would do that. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 6: I hate much of the Lady from your d MT art.
Speaker 2: I want to see that later when you'll see it,
Speaker 2: you're really she's mocking me, but it is not good.
Speaker 4: Everyone's expression as well.
Speaker 6: But I'm saying it's a form of expression.
Speaker 2: But my point is I love the art and the
Speaker 2: artist so much that I don't care to go there
Speaker 2: to like learn. I would just like to sit there
Speaker 2: and just like, Wow, look at all this art. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Let's do it.
Speaker 4: Yes, And as I've mentioned, they've got an amazing spot
Speaker 4: for skywatching. So yeah, I think says field trip up
Speaker 4: the Cosm would be great. Well, once a month, you
Speaker 4: said it's once a month yep, so pretty much like
Speaker 4: the weekend closest to the full moon. You can.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, we should we should figure that out. I
Speaker 2: did message him because you put him on my radar,
Speaker 2: yes or no, no, you put me on his radar. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's been on my radar, right, but you put me
Speaker 2: on his radar. And he painted a painting that was
Speaker 2: inspired by Dad's book and the orbs and your stories
Speaker 2: and everything. And I saw that and I shared it,
Speaker 2: and then he saw it, and then one thing led
Speaker 2: to another, and we had a couple of messages and
Speaker 2: he just like had the sweetest things to say, and
Speaker 2: I pretty much said like I'd love to have a
Speaker 2: SkyWatch with you, and he liked the message, and that
Speaker 2: was there.
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I'm I'm sure they're they're very busy,
Speaker 4: of course, of course, but but yeah, I think but
Speaker 4: that means we have a chance. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 4: that there could be a really good chance if it
Speaker 4: involves us going to them on their home ground.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm so willing.
Speaker 6: Do you have that painting that you did at the
Speaker 6: full Moon ceremony.
Speaker 4: Oh, that one is still in progress. It's the one
Speaker 4: that I showed you a picture of earlier, of the
Speaker 4: Earth with the beams of rainbow coming around it. Yeah.
Speaker 6: But oh the little Heart.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But but when I went up to at UH to
Speaker 4: Live paint in November, that was after Riverfest, And so
Speaker 4: this time when I brought up, I brought up another
Speaker 4: copy of the book with me that I could give
Speaker 4: to him and Allison as they could have their own
Speaker 4: copy and read it. And one of the coolest moments
Speaker 4: of my creative life probably was up there live painting
Speaker 4: and Alex comes over to say hi, and I'm like, here, Alex,
Speaker 4: I have a copy of the book for you now.
Speaker 4: And then I got to share with him about what
Speaker 4: we experienced at Riverfest.
Speaker 6: That's crazy and stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I showed and I showed him the video that
Speaker 4: for real that Heather Bird had taken Heather Heather when
Speaker 4: she pointed her camera up a right that right moment,
Speaker 4: I was able to show him that video. And so
Speaker 4: he was just so stoked to hear about all of
Speaker 4: it and then to see the video and very very
Speaker 4: gladly received the copy of the book.
Speaker 6: So wow, Wow, that's crazy. I have a blanket, one
Speaker 6: of his blankets.
Speaker 2: That Jemmy gave us. The Flesh of the Gods is
Speaker 2: the name of the piece, I yeah, yeah, or TiO tika,
Speaker 2: I can't remember it's it's a Spanish word.
Speaker 6: It's just the one of the hand, like holding tik wan.
Speaker 6: But it's similar to the eyeball on your yes hat.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think that might be a reoccurring thing for him. Yeah, yeah, awesome.
Speaker 2: But yeah, amazing. Wow, I mean I feel like I
Speaker 2: would if you're good with it. Yes, I would love
Speaker 2: to go into more of these on full disclosure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll take a short little wrap here and then we'll
Speaker 2: dive deeper into some of these on our page.
Speaker 6: Can we actually show that one though, Yeah, because I
Speaker 6: love that she had gifted each one of us a
Speaker 6: copy of this, and I want to hear more about
Speaker 6: this because I now have a copy.
Speaker 4: Yes, let's see. So we'll go this way a little
Speaker 4: bit here, Yeah, you can, I can rest it right here.
Speaker 4: This is called Resonant Plane. This was painted in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty three and it was started at an event at
Speaker 4: a river festival. Actually the Eno River festival in Durham,
Speaker 4: and this is another into it a vision where there
Speaker 4: was no concept of where I was headed, but I
Speaker 4: at least knew my starting point, which was the body
Speaker 4: of water taking inspiration from the river theme. And so
Speaker 4: when I started the painting, it literally was just this
Speaker 4: body of water, and then this cloudscape happened. And then
Speaker 4: I went home after that first day at the festival
Speaker 4: that was it. And then while I was at home,
Speaker 4: just sitting in a chair, I experienced this thing that
Speaker 4: happens to me sometimes with my visions, where I get
Speaker 4: like this flash in the mind's eye. It's like just
Speaker 4: a very brief second of kind of just like whoa,
Speaker 4: Like this scene appears behind my eyelids. That has with
Speaker 4: it that jolt of recognition of that at once to
Speaker 4: get painted.
Speaker 2: That's how I came up with the sigil.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah, we felt that jolt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's like it flashes into my mind. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's got to be a triangle a circle in the middle,
Speaker 2: but it's a ufo. You know. It's just like this
Speaker 2: higher level of information just SAPs into your brain and
Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god. And then it's like the
Speaker 2: mashed potato mountain you.
Speaker 4: Have, Yeah, you have to do it, you know, right,
Speaker 4: And so that flash was all of these silhouettes that
Speaker 4: are coming out of the water. And this was you know,
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, you know, like like I was very
Speaker 4: much invested in your all story. I had not yet.
Speaker 2: Been the book had just come out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't witnessing orbs myself on a regular basis,
Speaker 4: which I have been now since October. But I was
Speaker 4: at this time very drawn to purposely depict the orbs
Speaker 4: in my works. As you know, they have been representative
Speaker 4: for your story.
Speaker 2: And this is.
Speaker 4: Also like a point along my trajectory where I was
Speaker 4: gravitating towards depicting the human form more in silhouette, so
Speaker 4: that these forms could be more familiar to many eyes
Speaker 4: as opposed to you know, having these identifiable features that
Speaker 4: that might make the more distinguishment distinguishable as particular types
Speaker 4: of people. And so to silhouette all of these forms
Speaker 4: out and to put an emphasis upon the heart space
Speaker 4: because to me, I feel like that is where the
Speaker 4: soul resides, that that is where that intuitive voice is
Speaker 4: speaking from when it is the true voice of you know,
Speaker 4: quote higher self as opposed to like conditioned messages of
Speaker 4: the mind. And so I really have drawn I've gravitated
Speaker 4: towards depicting silhouettes with that heart space emphasized to further
Speaker 4: convey that idea of us evolving collectively into operating with
Speaker 4: more compassion for ourselves, for others, for the earth, and
Speaker 4: then to feel that sense of correspondence of as above
Speaker 4: so below in this scene, you know, the difference between
Speaker 4: the glowing heart space within these forms and the orbs
Speaker 4: in the sky is not much. So wanting to convey
Speaker 4: that connection between the orbs and our divine spark that
Speaker 4: each one of us has.
Speaker 6: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, it's very meaningful that this is the one you
Speaker 2: chose to get.
Speaker 6: Well, and I was telling Molly, I like a good story.
Speaker 6: So to hear the story behind this painting, and that
Speaker 6: is so awesome because I plan personally to hang it
Speaker 6: up in our office. I think that would be a
Speaker 6: great spot. And I I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna have two paintings in our office.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I have. I currently have a it's like
Speaker 6: literally the simplest little digital art behind me in my
Speaker 6: office that has like an as above so below theme.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 6: So then the fact that this has that that's just
Speaker 6: like itches my scratch. Yes, awesome, I'm gonna have a
Speaker 6: correlating theme going amazing. And I also just love how
Speaker 6: how it's just so yellow, like it's so yellow, yet
Speaker 6: it's so dynamic in so many different ways. Yellow is
Speaker 6: like one of my favorite colors. So I appreciate it
Speaker 6: all cool, thank you.
Speaker 4: I normally fill the paintings with colors, but every now
Speaker 4: and then there's a vision that it's just like, no,
Speaker 4: this is where we're at.
Speaker 6: These right, Like you have this form over here. I mean,
Speaker 6: I know the viewer can't see it, but you have
Speaker 6: a very orange painting and then a very.
Speaker 2: We're gonna want I want to get into more of
Speaker 2: these on Full Disclosure. So Alex, do you know off
Speaker 2: top of your head what number that's going to be,
Speaker 2: because that way we can direct for our Full Disclosure
Speaker 2: listeners that we can give them idea of what I'm
Speaker 2: the seven ninety seven somewhere in that something like ball
Speaker 2: part Yeah. Yeah. So we're lucky enough to have Molly
Speaker 2: for a after show special features. She's going to join
Speaker 2: us on Full Disclosure, and I really would like to
Speaker 2: get into more of these paintings.
Speaker 5: Ryan, how can I get a full disclosure if I
Speaker 5: don't know what you're talking about?
Speaker 2: Well, you just you just go to patreon dot com slash.
Speaker 2: Let's just said so, and we have multiple tiers on
Speaker 2: there with multiple exclusive shows and bonus content which is
Speaker 2: currently in the works, and our amazing discord community which
Speaker 2: Molly was talking about earlier how we had started connecting
Speaker 2: and there's currently just about seven hundred and fifty people
Speaker 2: in there and it's just just like a really thriving community.
Speaker 6: I think it'll end up being episode ninety seven, right, yeah,
Speaker 6: ninety seven. Yeah, I just crossed checked it.
Speaker 2: Check us out. Our patreon is pretty epic. And yeah,
Speaker 2: so we have our bonus show on the five dollars
Speaker 2: tier full disclosure, where we're going to go on to
Speaker 2: some more of these paintings because we have a lot
Speaker 2: that we haven't even scratched the surface of our paintings
Speaker 2: on this show. But enough about us and what we
Speaker 2: got going on, Molly. I want to plug all of
Speaker 2: your resources. I want people to be able to find you,
Speaker 2: your website, your social media, like wherever you need people
Speaker 2: to go, please tell them where to go, right on,
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can be found mainly. Number one place to
Speaker 4: go is my website www dot mollischopin art dot com
Speaker 4: and I'm on social media at Mollie chopin Art, Facebook, Facebook, TikTok,
Speaker 4: and Instagram. I also recently launched a Patreon and so
Speaker 4: I can be found on a Patreon on Mollie showpan
Speaker 4: Art as well. Yeah, that's great taking some new strides
Speaker 4: in that direction. You know, I've really enjoyed supporting some
Speaker 4: artists over the years through that platform and just have
Speaker 4: been fueling the call lately to step into it myself.
Speaker 2: So it's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll have that up and that can also be
Speaker 4: joined through the website. And I also have a email
Speaker 4: newsletter that I like to send out whenever I have
Speaker 4: finished a new painting and let folks know that it
Speaker 4: is available. Let that email list know first. And if
Speaker 4: you're local to North Carolina, I send out emails about
Speaker 4: festival events that I'm part of. And so if you're
Speaker 4: looking for some fun, transformational gatherings, dance parties, art markets
Speaker 4: to get in on in this region, that is something
Speaker 4: that I like to share each month.
Speaker 2: Want to join, I would love to the next time
Speaker 2: we do one of these festivals. Whether it's Riverfest. I
Speaker 2: know you and I have been talking about something else.
Speaker 2: I've been talking with my friend Alicia about a different thing,
Speaker 2: Like whatever it is, whatever the next thing is, as
Speaker 2: long as it's you know, nearby to where you can
Speaker 2: actually make it and it's convenient for you. I would
Speaker 2: love it if you would be there painting.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I want to see you do the magic. I want
Speaker 6: to watch you do the mesta.
Speaker 5: It's really cool to watch it.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 5: I got to stand behind her for a little while.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 6: I'm the type of person and I don't know if
Speaker 6: I'm like a gnat to some people, but I like
Speaker 6: to stand behind the camera and watch the people do
Speaker 6: the camera work. I like the hardiest and watch the
Speaker 6: other day. I always watch you, my friend, give a tattoo. Okay,
Speaker 6: I was having a blast, like, wow, you're doing that.
Speaker 6: It's just something I'm also foreign to of anyway, Just
Speaker 6: that would bring me so much joy to watch it.
Speaker 2: I want to have a Molly painting live. That's just
Speaker 2: what I'm calling it. A Molly painting, yeah, because it's
Speaker 2: a painting from my friend Molly. But I want to
Speaker 2: have a very special Molly painting of and about the
Speaker 2: next festival that we're a part of. In other words,
Speaker 2: like I want you to be a part of it too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: not to show up. We could cool guest and then
Speaker 2: go home and like look what I've painted about it.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, This is amazing. But you know what, what
Speaker 2: kind of magic will come through if if it's if
Speaker 2: it's agreed upon in advance and you're there not just
Speaker 2: observing but participating, you know what I mean, what what
Speaker 2: what will what will be interpreted?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And the value of live painting at these kinds
Speaker 4: of gatherings is that the energy of the crowds, the
Speaker 4: energy of everyone present, influences what comes through. And it's
Speaker 4: just it's an amazing experience to be painting around a
Speaker 4: group of people like that and to just allow each
Speaker 4: brushstrokes to be infused with that heard opening energy that
Speaker 4: we've been talking about. So yeah, let's do.
Speaker 2: It well from a podcast, I guess you could call
Speaker 2: that a creative music maker individual, you know, who understands
Speaker 2: the importance and the magic of like creativity. Like I said,
Speaker 2: you know, I can't paint. I don't really understand how
Speaker 2: people can do stuff like that. I mean, I understand how,
Speaker 2: but it's like the I can't fathom actually being able
Speaker 2: to do this stuff like I do feel like what
Speaker 2: you do is very much magic, and I think it
Speaker 2: would be very cool. You know, next time I say if,
Speaker 2: but no, when when next time you're there and you're
Speaker 2: depicting this scene for us, It'll be a very cherished thing.
Speaker 2: I would love a copy, and you know, then we
Speaker 2: would just have to do a part two. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: So anyway, thank you so much for coming on our show.
Speaker 6: Can you ask Molly the question you asked everyone?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because I really want to hear this. I
Speaker 2: was going to, by the way, so thank you for
Speaker 2: reminding me. I had the thought, but then we started
Speaker 2: talking about this, and so thank you for saving me. Yes.
Speaker 2: I like to ask every guest usually when I remember,
Speaker 2: if you know you had one thing to tell a
Speaker 2: large audience of people, like, what would it be? What's
Speaker 2: that one message that you feel is so important that
Speaker 2: you wish you could get out to the world.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Yes, I was thinking about it before I
Speaker 4: came here. Actually, if you were to ask such a question,
Speaker 4: and my message is everyone honor your creative spark. We
Speaker 4: all got one. You've got one. To honor your creative spark,
Speaker 4: honor your empathy and compassion, keep cultivating community, and keep
Speaker 4: looking out for each other.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful.
Speaker 6: You know, the other night I got a tear from that.
Speaker 6: Do I look a little?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look a little. But the other night, I
Speaker 2: was laying in bed one of having one of those
Speaker 2: those like download moments. I don't know what you call it,
Speaker 2: like higher higher state of thinking, Like these things come
Speaker 2: through and it just kind of flashed in my mind.
Speaker 2: Like literally everything in the universe comes from creative impulses,
Speaker 2: you know, whether it's creative intelligence, whether it's physical life
Speaker 2: coming from some instinctual biological urge to procreate, which is
Speaker 2: what a creative impulse. Yes, everything comes from creative impulses.
Speaker 2: We are just flowing with creative impulses on every level
Speaker 2: of reality. So I agree, Like, you know, it's like,
Speaker 2: honor your creative spark. It's it's what got you here,
Speaker 2: it's where you're going back to. Everything comes from creative impulses.
Speaker 2: It's probably the most powerful force.
Speaker 6: It really is crazy to think about, like where is
Speaker 6: all of this coming from? Like we all have these
Speaker 6: brains that are just sparking energy it's it's crazy. It's
Speaker 6: above so below. Everything comes from everything, you know, something
Speaker 6: comes from something.
Speaker 2: Yes, yep, creative impulses. Wow, Molly, you're amazing. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much. You know how we in the show?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 6: Can we show the cats though?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they've they've been pretty good.
Speaker 5: Is they've had a lot of airtime tonight?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean both of them have had an incredible.
Speaker 5: Amount of air time, probably more than me. They've been
Speaker 5: on camera more than I have.
Speaker 2: That's a choice. Someone at the festival I have to
Speaker 2: put I don't remember exactly who said this, but someone
Speaker 2: at the festival. Oh it's Chester. It was Chester. Chester. Yes,
Speaker 2: Chester's great. Yeah, Chester's amazing. And at azea festival two
Speaker 2: weeks ago, Chester was like, you need to talking to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He was like, you need to talk them into
Speaker 2: letting you be on camera more. And Alex was in Chester.
Speaker 2: I control the camera.
Speaker 6: We beg Alex Alex, like, we we want Alex to
Speaker 6: be on camera, we want Alex to talk more. But
Speaker 6: he's just a mysterious guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: If I show myself too much, you quit begging.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 6: People won't be able to like imagine that that like
Speaker 6: or fathom a pretty face if they see it so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where's the mystery?
Speaker 6: Right? There's no mystery there, There's nothing Yeah, mist going
Speaker 6: on for sure anyway.
Speaker 2: All right, well you know what to do right? Okay?
Speaker 6: Bye guys, guy, Bye guys.
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