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Speaker 2: And I understand intellectually. I understand why some people wrongly,
Speaker 2: but some people say they're superhero movie fatigue. I understand
Speaker 2: that because unless you're in the weeds and you know
Speaker 2: the subtle differences between Sony Marvel movies and an MCU
Speaker 2: and a DCEU, it just all seems the same to
Speaker 2: you if you're just a casual fan. But if you
Speaker 2: know the difference, you know that it's not people being
Speaker 2: tired of superhero movies. People are tired of trash. And
Speaker 2: although Venom the Last Dance is trash, and although everyone
Speaker 2: knows it's trash, including Sony, they're going to keep putting
Speaker 2: it out because there's a segment of the population which
Speaker 2: will go see it no matter what. Talk about this
Speaker 2: from a bin standpoint. The number one movie this week,
Speaker 2: once again for the third week in a row, is
Speaker 2: Venom the Last Dance. I think it has a Rotten
Speaker 2: Tomatoes rating of zero maybe one. The budget was one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty million. It has already grossed more than
Speaker 2: almost four hundred million worldwide. It's making money for Sony.
Speaker 2: If you know the history. You know, the first Venom
Speaker 2: had a higher budget and also brought in more than
Speaker 2: eight hundred million. But this, even though it's trash, is
Speaker 2: still bringing in money for the company. What does that mean. Well,
Speaker 2: they may say it's the last Dance, but it's not
Speaker 2: the last Sony superhero movie. And Sony has been churning
Speaker 2: out these bad quote unquote superhero movies for a profit
Speaker 2: for the better part of ten years.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: You can talk about how bad Madam Web is. It
Speaker 2: didn't slow them down, Sony. They're still going to have
Speaker 2: a crave. In the Hunter movie, they had a Morbius
Speaker 2: movie that was bad. All these Sony movies are bad.
Speaker 2: The first two Venom movies are bad, but they kept
Speaker 2: making money for the company.
Speaker 3: So when people.
Speaker 2: Say that we all of us are tired of superhero movies,
Speaker 2: number one, no, we're not. Even the bad ones are
Speaker 2: making money, and as long as they continue to make money,
Speaker 2: then the studios will continue to make the Mark Ronner
Speaker 2: makes the perfect point about how most of the horror
Speaker 2: genre today they're not good movies, but they're very inexpensive
Speaker 2: and they produce multipliers. As far as you had an
Speaker 2: eight million dollar budget, it may bring in fifty six million.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: They don't have the same kind of bloated budgets as
Speaker 4: a Marvel movie, so they really make your money back.
Speaker 4: If you and I MO we're going to invest in movies,
Speaker 4: I would force you to invest in horror film.
Speaker 3: I would in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2: I'm just waiting for someone to say, hey, Mode, do
Speaker 2: you want to get in on on this new I
Speaker 2: don't know, like a Winni the Pooh intellectual property thing
Speaker 2: where they buy up some intellectual property became public domain
Speaker 2: and they're gonna make a movie for one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: It'll probably bring in three million. Give me an EP credit. Yes,
Speaker 2: let's go make some money together.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We got to look at the PD lists every single
Speaker 4: year because more and more stuff falls into the public
Speaker 4: domain that we can just destroy for a handsome profit.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know how you get in.
Speaker 2: You know, to be at the top of the list,
Speaker 2: you have to be waiting there at midnight on a
Speaker 2: certain day and then refile it.
Speaker 4: Well, a lot of this is for older stuff that's
Speaker 4: and so there. I forget what the rules are, but
Speaker 4: it's X number of decades after the creator dies. Hm
Speaker 4: so you know that explains Winnie the Pooh, that explains
Speaker 4: some Sherlock Home stuff, HP Lovecraft stuff.
Speaker 5: But then you can I believe anyone after it enters
Speaker 5: public domain, anyone who has a take on said character,
Speaker 5: as long as it's strays away from the exacts act original,
Speaker 5: can do something. So it's not first come, first serve,
Speaker 5: because anyone could do a take on a Winnie the
Speaker 5: Pooh horror movie. The individuals who did were just the
Speaker 5: first to do so.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I think we need to do a Winning the Poop porno.
Speaker 2: Then there's got to be a market out there. Oh Pooh,
Speaker 2: come here with that Honey Baby starring.
Speaker 3: Ron Jeremy as e Or. I don't think he's starring
Speaker 3: as anything. You're probably right.
Speaker 4: He'd have to get on a work release from prison,
Speaker 4: wouldn't he. But here's the point.
Speaker 2: The number two movie this week heretic that you reviews
Speaker 2: part of the Runner report. It's budget under ten million.
Speaker 2: It's so low they didn't even list it. I'm surprised
Speaker 2: it was even that much. The whole movie takes place
Speaker 2: in the house seriously, and it grows thirteen point five
Speaker 2: million in its first week worldwide. It's already made back
Speaker 2: all of its money. And it's not bad either.
Speaker 4: It's it's a decent, well written, well filmed, well acted movie.
Speaker 4: So good on them. I think it's a twenty four
Speaker 4: that put that out. It is a twenty four three.
Speaker 4: It was the best Christmas Christmas pageant ever. Not familiar
Speaker 4: with Lionsgate, what the best Christmas pageant ever? Nobody is
Speaker 4: ready for the mayhem and surprises that ensued when six
Speaker 4: of the worst youngsters disrupt the town's yearly Christmas performance.
Speaker 4: That sounds very boring, but it's still brought in ten
Speaker 4: point seven million.
Speaker 3: It's not for me.
Speaker 2: I'm not the target audience, and I'm securing too early.
Speaker 2: The best Christmas pageant in November. No, no, no, Once you
Speaker 2: pass Halloween's Christmas season, just about.
Speaker 3: Everywhere, I'm against it.
Speaker 2: Number four Wild Robot is still hanging in there brought
Speaker 2: in another six point six million. Another horror film, Smile Too,
Speaker 2: came in at number five with five point one million,
Speaker 2: for a total of one hundred and twenty three million.
Speaker 2: Look the horror movies make money.
Speaker 4: Oh we're getting the Smile three. Make no mistake, Conclave,
Speaker 4: that's kind of horror. Well, depending that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Kind of brought in twenty one point eight million all
Speaker 2: together so far, and it brought in four million this week,
Speaker 2: and it goes on down, coming into number ten this
Speaker 2: week is Terrifyer three. It's gross seventy eight million worldwide.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing this budget was under fifteen.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Okay, that's too much trash even for me
Speaker 4: to sit through. I watched the first one and it's
Speaker 4: nothing but an evil clown just killing people in horrifying ways.
Speaker 3: That's it. That's the whole movie.
Speaker 2: But no one is saying, oh, we're just tired of
Speaker 2: horror movies. No, if there's a market for it, if
Speaker 2: there's an audience for it, they will keep making the movies,
Speaker 2: especially if they're profitable. Maybe not on the range of
Speaker 2: these blockbuster superhero movies, but it's not. And I hate
Speaker 2: when people say I'm tired of these superhero movies. No
Speaker 2: one has forced you to go to any of these movies.
Speaker 2: I'm tired of bad Martin Scorsese movies. But you don't
Speaker 2: see me complaining. I just don't go. I just don't go.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm not a fan of rom coms.
Speaker 2: I've seen most of the rom coms up through the
Speaker 2: early two thousands. After that, I kind of checked out.
Speaker 2: I don't care for rom comms. I don't If the
Speaker 2: next version of The Notebook is coming out, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to see it. I'm not a romantic like that.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't appreciate those movies.
Speaker 2: But if they make twenty five of them over the
Speaker 2: next five years, it's still not going to affect me.
Speaker 2: Why because I'm not going to change my movie going habits.
Speaker 3: You can find rom coms anywhere.
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm I'm saying, oh my gosh, I'm
Speaker 2: just sick of seeing them.
Speaker 5: It's the contrarians that are going on and on and
Speaker 5: on about their hate for superhero genre films. Either of
Speaker 5: these are individuals who feel left out of the genre
Speaker 5: and feel that they must attack the what they perceive
Speaker 5: as being this exclusive club of films for nerds, and
Speaker 5: it's really not.
Speaker 2: I mean, Martin skrust like that, and you know, Steven Spielberg,
Speaker 2: you can hammer on that all you want, but I
Speaker 2: will say we were going back and fourth over the weekend,
Speaker 2: all three of us, and we had seen the trailers
Speaker 2: for the new Captain America movie with the Falcon as
Speaker 2: the new cap.
Speaker 5: Yes, we cannot say anything about your your response.
Speaker 4: No, but we also were passing back forget the new
Speaker 4: Thunderbolts trailer.
Speaker 2: Those both look incredibly fun. Yeah, here's what people forget.
Speaker 2: Marvel had one movie in twenty twenty four one. So
Speaker 2: if you're saying that people are tired of superhero movies
Speaker 2: and you don't know that Marvel only had one movie
Speaker 2: this year, then you clearly aren't paying attention or don't
Speaker 2: understand the difference between the MCU and everybody.
Speaker 5: Else and their one film did damn near twenty one
Speaker 5: point billion dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so crazy. What are we talking about? Are you
Speaker 2: really that tired? No, you just were tired of the
Speaker 2: mediocre and less than movies because when they brought it,
Speaker 2: when they really came with it, you were right there,
Speaker 2: your ass was in the front row, and you saw
Speaker 2: for moving to a cross at least a billion dollars.
Speaker 2: You're seeing it multiple times, people are going back to
Speaker 2: see it multiple times. I can't speak for that Avatar BS.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about real movies with real fans and real
Speaker 2: tickets purchase. I still haven't seen the new Avatar or
Speaker 2: real life and that's my point, because free there are
Speaker 2: far too many people that I know that I respect.
Speaker 2: I can't find someone who actually saw that movie more
Speaker 2: than once.
Speaker 3: If at all.
Speaker 4: It's a green Eggs and ham situation minus the ending.
Speaker 4: For me, not in a house, not with a mouse.
Speaker 4: I'm not watching that movie, you know what.
Speaker 2: And the movie itself wasn't bad, but it was so stereotypical,
Speaker 2: so predictable, so formulaic. It didn't have any of the
Speaker 2: supposed magic of the first one. At least in the
Speaker 2: first one, you can say, Okay, they created a new world.
Speaker 2: You can say that they were characters that we hadn't
Speaker 2: seen before a lot of tropes, but the characters were
Speaker 2: at least different, and it was a different story this one.
Speaker 2: The second one just seemed like they didn't have a
Speaker 2: story to tell.
Speaker 4: The first one bored me to tears. They know more
Speaker 4: of my time, life is short.
Speaker 3: Well, the second one is even more boring. Okay, oh
Speaker 3: it's really boring. Thanks for taking the bullet on that one. Well,
Speaker 3: it's the least I could do for a friend. There'll
Speaker 3: be more. It's later with mo Kelly. I don't know
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Speaker 2: And let's talk about micro's cinemas. They're popping up all
Speaker 2: over LA. And last year, for example, Vidiots Foundation opened
Speaker 2: its first micro theater in Eagle Rock. In fact, Quentin
Speaker 2: Tarantino you might have heard of him, updated the Vista
Speaker 2: in Hollywood to include a video archive, cinema club, and
Speaker 2: the Guardina Cinema leaned into a counter programming strategy.
Speaker 3: Each night you can see.
Speaker 2: A high brow classic at the Academy Museum's upscale David
Speaker 2: Geffen Theater. I've been there, and the sound and projection
Speaker 2: are are wonderful. And they're over dozens of venues across
Speaker 2: Southern California, from Santa Monica to Hollywood to those feelas,
Speaker 2: and they have all these screenings with filmmakers, actors and experts,
Speaker 2: or maybe you just want to see an off the
Speaker 2: Beaten Path movie or an oldie. These tiny venues are
Speaker 2: usually filled with about a couple dozen seats at most,
Speaker 2: instead of the hundreds that you and I are accustomed
Speaker 2: to for going to see in imax screening. Would you
Speaker 2: like to see one of your old favorites, but just
Speaker 2: in something which is a little bit larger than your
Speaker 2: living room. Well you can do that at like Soho
Speaker 2: Cinema Club and they have super eight millimeter film to CinemaScope,
Speaker 2: they have live magic shows and it's a really really small,
Speaker 2: hidden away venue on a side street in Hollywood. I
Speaker 2: don't know if this is going to be a huge trend,
Speaker 2: but I understand how these smaller venues have to offer
Speaker 2: something a little bit more exclusive, a little bit more intimate,
Speaker 2: a little bit more off the beaten path to get
Speaker 2: people to come out. Now, it may not be a
Speaker 2: huge money maker, but I think it's the natural evolution
Speaker 2: of what we may call like an open mic, where
Speaker 2: you're getting to see film, you're getting to see art.
Speaker 2: But these are micro venues where you're not trying to
Speaker 2: bring in one hundred people, but you might bring in
Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty. And if you can find a good
Speaker 2: location for one of these, you can, like the coffee
Speaker 2: houses of Old, have a consistent clientele coming in three
Speaker 2: or four nights a week. It seems like maybe people
Speaker 2: are considering going small in everything we do, just like
Speaker 2: you know, the tiny house phenomenon. I get the ads
Speaker 2: for them on Facebook all the time. The tiny houses,
Speaker 2: where they're basically basically the size of a dorm room,
Speaker 2: two story dorm room, but you have four walls. It
Speaker 2: may be the size of an EIGHTYU in someone's backyard.
Speaker 2: But tiny houses are beginning to become a thing, especially
Speaker 2: in a place like California, where the cost of living
Speaker 2: and obviously cost of property is so very high. People
Speaker 2: are tending to go smaller with their lifestyles. Smaller houses,
Speaker 2: smaller venues, smaller events, And this might be the trend
Speaker 2: going forward to kind of balance off the cost of
Speaker 2: everything out here. Maybe you go to a smaller theater
Speaker 2: and see a movie which may not be first run,
Speaker 2: but you can see it for five dollars instead of
Speaker 2: twenty five dollars. That's another reason why people are possibly
Speaker 2: skittish from going to the movies, because it's almost an
Speaker 2: investment if you are a young person. And let's say
Speaker 2: when I was growing up, the first date was always
Speaker 2: a movie, dinner in a movie. It was a real
Speaker 2: easy thing to do. It wasn't a lot of pressure.
Speaker 2: You can go get some food, you can watch a movie,
Speaker 2: enjoy each other's company. But tickets back then weren't more
Speaker 2: than maybe six seven dollars, and if you had like
Speaker 2: a dollar night or a you know, a Mattnee show,
Speaker 2: you didn't have to spend much money at all. Now
Speaker 2: you can easily spend a good one hundred dollars for
Speaker 2: a couple going to the movies and getting some food,
Speaker 2: and depending where you are economically, that can be a
Speaker 2: lot of money. A lot And so I could see
Speaker 2: how people would go to these micro cinemas. I don't know, Mark,
Speaker 2: have you ever seen one. I've been to the David
Speaker 2: Geffen Theater.
Speaker 4: No. I had a lot of in La but I
Speaker 4: was anxious to try out the one at the Vista.
Speaker 4: There was a place in Seattle I used to go
Speaker 4: to all the time called the Grand Illusion, which was
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's quite micro and what's the
Speaker 4: cutoff between micro and normal, but it was tiny. And
Speaker 4: the thing is that a lot of these are for
Speaker 4: like cult type movies, and it's fun to watch those
Speaker 4: with fellow degenerates and nerds. Like I just told you
Speaker 4: before the show that over the weekend I watched the
Speaker 4: thirty sixth Chamber of Shell Lynn, which was one of
Speaker 4: the all time classic seventies, Shaw Brothers Martial Arts movies.
Speaker 4: To watch that in a room of like minded nerds,
Speaker 4: that would be a ton of fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think if, especially if you could get it
Speaker 2: with like minded individuals, like you're saying, fellow nerds, if
Speaker 2: you maybe just get all the guys together, like when
Speaker 2: we go to the theater, it's fun because we're in
Speaker 2: that communal environment. We all love movies as long as
Speaker 2: other people leave us alone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's one of the things I used to
Speaker 4: love about going to the New Beverly because they just
Speaker 4: mainly show older cult films. You've got everybody there who
Speaker 4: loves what they're about to see. Most people have seen
Speaker 4: it again, but the people who are discovering it for
Speaker 4: the first time, that's cool to be with them as well.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you get somebody who's involved with the picture there
Speaker 4: to introduce it or something.
Speaker 3: I really miss.
Speaker 4: The communal aspect of going to movies that COVID generally destroyed.
Speaker 2: You hit on something, which is key. I'd like seeing
Speaker 2: these older movies, but they're usually presented by someone who's
Speaker 2: either connected to it, can provide some insight with it,
Speaker 2: or more than just the movie itself. It could be
Speaker 2: a Q and A after the fact, and you get
Speaker 2: to meet some of the original casts even though it's
Speaker 2: not a new movie, but it's a new way to
Speaker 2: experience and enjoy the movie.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and I see stuff on YouTube all the time,
Speaker 4: like imagine having William Friedkin do a Q and A
Speaker 4: before or after The Exorcist, or like I I watched
Speaker 4: one not long ago of Robert Kulp for the movie
Speaker 4: he directed called Hickey and Boggs. I think that was
Speaker 4: at the New Beverly. These events are priceless because also
Speaker 4: a lot of these people that are getting up there
Speaker 4: in years and you want a chance to see them
Speaker 4: talk about their work.
Speaker 2: Well to that point, since they are getting up in years.
Speaker 2: And since you get these i would say, exclusive opportunities
Speaker 2: to meet with people from the cast or the director.
Speaker 2: Thanks to social media, you have a chance to memorialize
Speaker 2: it in a way that you couldn't fifteen years ago
Speaker 2: or so or twenty years ago. You get to actively
Speaker 2: engage and keep them and look, I was never an
Speaker 2: autograph guy.
Speaker 3: I was always a photo guy.
Speaker 2: I always like to be able to say, hey, I
Speaker 2: was there with so and so, I got to meet
Speaker 2: so and so, even while people were collecting autographs. I
Speaker 2: never collected autographs, I think, to my mind, I don't
Speaker 2: have I got a signed autograph picture of the Good
Speaker 2: Times cast in the nineteen seventy. Yeah, and they all
Speaker 2: signed it. You can see the different oh signatures. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just got to find it somewhere at my mother's
Speaker 2: house because back in the day, I know, I'm digressing,
Speaker 2: but back in the day you would write CBS and
Speaker 2: you know, you get a response and you could tell.
Speaker 2: And I in later years I've matched the signatures with
Speaker 2: their signatures elsewhere thanks to the Internet, and I could
Speaker 2: see was authentic. You had John Amos est role and
Speaker 2: others at Jimmy Walker, you know. But other than that,
Speaker 2: I've never collected signatures. Always wanted the picture with the person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not a big autograph hound, and a lot
Speaker 4: of the times there with people I've interviewed, and that
Speaker 4: to me is the special thing. But like, just as
Speaker 4: another example of a local event that was just priceless,
Speaker 4: they showed Thunderball of the James Bond movie at the
Speaker 4: New Beverly a couple of years or so ago, and
Speaker 4: Luciana Poluzzi was there and so I got a couple
Speaker 4: that was cool with her, you know Fiona from the movie.
Speaker 4: I after if I could hug her, and she she
Speaker 4: let me hug her without well stabbing me.
Speaker 3: Thank you at least you asked.
Speaker 2: Oh, you got to ask you to like just take
Speaker 2: it upon yourself and just you know, I forced yourself
Speaker 2: upon her.
Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't say this is for queen and country
Speaker 4: and then forced a hug on her. No, but those
Speaker 4: kind of things are are just great fun and they
Speaker 4: bring people together who like all all these kinds of movies.
Speaker 4: Like another one that I went to before the plague
Speaker 4: started was The Egyptian Here had h the gyp had Oh,
Speaker 4: the Halloween three and season of which, Yeah, and a
Speaker 4: couple others with Tom Atkins, you remember him, the actor.
Speaker 4: He's still with us, and he was there and he
Speaker 4: answered questions after the movie be priceless, great fun.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe microcinemas have a future here in La. Will
Speaker 2: continue to tell you about them as it happens. It's
Speaker 2: later with mo Kelly. We're gonna recap the Penguin season finale,
Speaker 2: which was made available on the Max app HBO Max
Speaker 2: App yesterday, and we got to tell you we're not
Speaker 2: going to ruin it for Mark Ronner, who's midway through
Speaker 2: the series. But let me just say this up front,
Speaker 2: you have to see this series if you like anything
Speaker 2: about gangster or mob television shows. It's that good. We'll
Speaker 2: give you more in just a moment.
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Speaker 2: We were talking about, you know what, I'm tired of
Speaker 2: these superhero movies. I'm just tired of them, tired of it.
Speaker 2: Let me give you something to consider if you're a
Speaker 2: fan of gangster TV shows, like let's say you're a
Speaker 2: fan of The Sopranos, Let's say that you are a
Speaker 2: fan of the Let's say that you're a fan of
Speaker 2: even Succession, because there's a there's a succession esque portion
Speaker 2: to this show. I highly recommend that you check out
Speaker 2: The Penguin starring Colin Ferrell. Yes, it is directly connected
Speaker 2: to the events of the movie The Batman Matt Reeves
Speaker 2: The Batman with Robert Pattinson starring.
Speaker 3: It's connected to that.
Speaker 2: In fact, the show picks up episode one right after
Speaker 2: the final events of the movie The Batman. But outside
Speaker 2: of that, unless you are deep, deep, deep into Batman
Speaker 2: lore and know certain names and certain families. It is
Speaker 2: just like any other gritty, vulgar, profane gangster tale which
Speaker 2: is set in a city called Gossam, Gotham, which is
Speaker 2: by all appearances New York City in every way. It
Speaker 2: doesn't even look like a comic book version of Gotham.
Speaker 2: It looks like modern day New York in every way,
Speaker 2: same types of issues, same types of feel. In fact,
Speaker 2: it takes place in the United States. Now, if you
Speaker 2: look at Batman and DC, it doesn't take place in
Speaker 2: quote unquote the United States. You have cities like National City, Metropolis, Gotham,
Speaker 2: Central City, all fictitious cities. But this takes place in
Speaker 2: the United States. And the even Gotham has borrows. I
Speaker 2: didn't know that until this series, but now they have
Speaker 2: burroughs like they have of Manhattan and Brooklyn and the
Speaker 2: Bronx and Staten Island, Coney Island, just like that.
Speaker 3: It is a gritty, violent, mark violent, violent TV show.
Speaker 3: It is violent.
Speaker 4: I have a couple episodes to go, but I was
Speaker 4: watching one last night and an extremely violent thing complete
Speaker 4: lately took me off guard and made me understand, Oh, nobody's.
Speaker 3: Safe here are they? Nobody is safe.
Speaker 2: Last night the season finale dropped, and all I can
Speaker 2: say is nobody is safe. There are characters who are
Speaker 2: introduced throughout the season, from episode one all the way through,
Speaker 2: and you will see some very familiar faces. Actor Theo
Speaker 2: Rossi who plays doctor Julian Rush. You may remember him
Speaker 2: from other marvel.
Speaker 3: Which one did he do it? Luke Cage, Luke Cage.
Speaker 2: Kristin Miliatti, who plays Sofia Falcone.
Speaker 3: Is a star. She steals. This is her show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she steals most scenes that she's in. It
Speaker 2: may be called the Penguin, but you might as well
Speaker 2: call it the Fucone because everything turns on the actions
Speaker 2: of her.
Speaker 3: That's all I can say.
Speaker 2: It is so well written, so well acted, you're gonna
Speaker 2: find yourself. Clancy Brown is really good as Salvatore Maroney.
Speaker 2: If you're a Clancy Brown fan, he's kind of your
Speaker 2: utility player.
Speaker 3: Bad guy, isn't he? Yes?
Speaker 2: And actor Michael Kelly, you may remember him from House
Speaker 2: of Cards, played White House chief of Staff. He's a
Speaker 2: very very good character actor. If he's on lion S,
Speaker 2: if you see him, you've seen him a thousand times.
Speaker 2: It's a well balanced cast of serious actors and actresses
Speaker 2: who in their own right can fill up a screen.
Speaker 2: Highly recommend this show.
Speaker 5: This show that should absolutely be within award contention in
Speaker 5: all categories, from acting, writing to costume makeup. This is
Speaker 5: a story that is so engrossing and unlike every other
Speaker 5: HBO slash Max series that has come before it, which
Speaker 5: they usually end on a really bad note. Most HBO
Speaker 5: or Max series they end or know what you say,
Speaker 5: I watched this entire series for that. This is a
Speaker 5: series that went out with such a bang. And I'm
Speaker 5: telling you, if you know anything of the Batman lore,
Speaker 5: and like say, maybe you look at a film like
Speaker 5: The Joker where you say, there's no way this guy
Speaker 5: could have contended with the likes of a Batman. This
Speaker 5: is a penguin who absolutely could stand ten toes down
Speaker 5: against the likes of a Batman.
Speaker 2: And you do not need to know anything about Batman.
Speaker 2: Source material not not the movie The Batman. I told
Speaker 2: you as far as context, it picks up right after
Speaker 2: the movie the events of the movie. But you do
Speaker 2: not need to have seen the movie. You do not
Speaker 2: need to know anything about Batman. If you just like
Speaker 2: gangster television shows, this show is for you. You don't
Speaker 2: need to know anything going in, and that's another selling point.
Speaker 2: You're not bogged down by easter eggs or bogged down
Speaker 2: by source material that you don't know, you haven't read,
Speaker 2: or you haven't seen.
Speaker 4: Oh it's very uh, entry level. I guess it's the
Speaker 4: comic industry term for this. You don't need to know
Speaker 4: a thing. And in fact, that's one of the initial
Speaker 4: things that I had a problem with, which is why
Speaker 4: is this show embarrassed to be from a comic book?
Speaker 4: But if you stick with it, I think you'll be satisfying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know that it's from a comic book,
Speaker 2: But if you just turned it on and just watched it,
Speaker 2: there's nothing cartoonish or comic book ish about it. They're
Speaker 2: not exaggerated stereotypes or personalities.
Speaker 4: There's no mister Freeze walking around turning people into human
Speaker 4: gangster sickles, right because there are no costumes.
Speaker 2: Now they're not you know, they're not dressed up playing
Speaker 2: these caricatures. They're just people. And it's basically it's basically
Speaker 2: the Mob. I can say that it's it's the Mob
Speaker 2: and how it has taken over Gotham and you see
Speaker 2: the Rise of One Man and is told over many,
Speaker 2: many years, all the steps that he took to eventually
Speaker 2: get in to a degree of power, the chess moves
Speaker 2: that he made while people always underestimated him or assumed.
Speaker 3: That he was too stupid to do what he was doing.
Speaker 4: And they have the nerve to make him an extremely
Speaker 4: unlikable character, but with just enough redemption in the form
Speaker 4: of his relationship with a young I guess apprentice criminal
Speaker 4: that you don't completely hate him. Also, you're talking about
Speaker 4: Kristin Miliotti without spoiling anything for anybody, there's an episode
Speaker 4: that explains her backstory as an over yrkham Asylum. I
Speaker 4: guarantee you she's gonna get an Emmy for that.
Speaker 2: Well, you think about the great gritty dramas. Look, it's
Speaker 2: almost like you're watching Orange is the New Black mixed
Speaker 2: in with the Sopranos an oz.
Speaker 5: Man even more because now I understand the Batman's real
Speaker 5: world approach to telling this character story and not making
Speaker 5: him fantastical, making the Robert Pattinson Batman a character who
Speaker 5: used his wealth to you know, armor up with things
Speaker 5: that you may be able to get, you know, like
Speaker 5: in most films. Batman, he was a superhero this film
Speaker 5: he's literally a vigilante. And you see now that this
Speaker 5: world can produce a Batman who is just a vigilante,
Speaker 5: someone who has the wealth enough to arm himself and
Speaker 5: go up against individuals like that. And I like how
Speaker 5: they grounded. I look back now at The Riddler and
Speaker 5: I say, ah, now I see why, because I was
Speaker 5: going into The Batman looking for superhero film and instead
Speaker 5: we got real world. And now I'm like, it all
Speaker 5: makes sense.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: All I can say is, you think of the great
Speaker 2: mob monsters in lore. The Penguin is on that list.
Speaker 2: He is a monster, and they show you. They don't
Speaker 2: tell you. It's violent, it's vulgar, and it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: And before we get out of here, we talked about
Speaker 2: this story in the first segment of the show. Now
Speaker 2: we have to really talk about it. You may have
Speaker 2: heard it in the newscast with Mark Ronner. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's a mistake. I just don't. But when Mattel
Speaker 2: had to pull Wicked from the movie in musical Wicked
Speaker 2: Dolls after quote unquote mistakenly listing an adult porn site
Speaker 2: on packaging.
Speaker 3: I'm saying it's not a mistake.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like it was a mistaken link to a
Speaker 2: grocery store, something innocuous. Why does it always have to
Speaker 2: be porn? Everything leads back to porn. Mattel pulled its
Speaker 2: Wicked dolls after packaging for the movie merchandise mistakenly listed
Speaker 2: a website to an adult porn site rather than to
Speaker 2: the Wicked movie website. I'm sure it was just a great, big,
Speaker 2: long misunderstanding.
Speaker 3: No one meant to do this, the longest understanding. Wait,
Speaker 3: what do you say? Nothing quote.
Speaker 2: Mattel made aware of a misprint on the packaging of
Speaker 2: the Mattel Wicked collection dolls, primarily sold in the US,
Speaker 2: which intended to direct consumers to the official wickedmovie dot
Speaker 2: com landing page. This is according to a statement in
Speaker 2: the Hollywood Reporter. We deeply regret this unfortunate error error
Speaker 2: uh huh, and are taking immediate action to remedy this.
Speaker 2: Parents are advised that the misprinted, incorrect website is not
Speaker 2: appropriate for children.
Speaker 3: Let me stop there.
Speaker 2: You need to put a parental advisory saying that the
Speaker 2: porn website that you say was not intentionally put there
Speaker 2: is not for children.
Speaker 3: Is that what they're saying?
Speaker 4: You got to tell people everything. You can't assume anybody's
Speaker 4: got a lick of common sense these days.
Speaker 3: He said, lick.
Speaker 2: You're telling me that you had to tell parents that
Speaker 2: the porn site website is not appropriate for children.
Speaker 3: They had to put that in the statement.
Speaker 4: Yes, pornography generally not appropriate for children.
Speaker 3: Here we go, there's more.
Speaker 2: Consumers who already have the product are advised to discard
Speaker 2: the product packaging or obscure the link and make contact
Speaker 2: MATEL customer service for further information.
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 2: I'm going to contact Mattel for excuse me, but there's
Speaker 2: a link to porn hub on my wicked doll.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to talk you through it. What do
Speaker 3: I need to do to remove it? Almost said something else?
Speaker 2: What did I need to do to not navigate to
Speaker 2: the porn website?
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 2: What is Mattel gonna tell me? Just don't navigate there?
Speaker 2: Just don't point your browser there.
Speaker 5: You know, for collectibility, and just because I am a collector,
Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna have to try to hurry up
Speaker 5: and grab one of these.
Speaker 4: Uh oh yeah, they'll probably be valuable on eBay soon.
Speaker 3: You better. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The character dolls with the mislabel packaging feature fashion and
Speaker 2: singing ones, along with collectible varieties, and include Grande's Glinda
Speaker 2: and Rivo's.
Speaker 3: Elf Alpha Alphaba dolls.
Speaker 2: As for the misprint, those who want information on the
Speaker 2: movie should visit the film's official site.
Speaker 3: What we idiots, We didn't make the mistake.
Speaker 2: When you're telling me that it was supposed to go
Speaker 2: to wickedmovie dot com, I'm pretty sure that's where the
Speaker 2: actual movie website is. If I put in pornhub dot
Speaker 2: com expecting it to go to wickedmovie dot com, then
Speaker 2: I'm the idiot. But that's not what I'm doing. If
Speaker 2: I put in pornhub dot com, as it says on
Speaker 2: the package, I don't know what website it was. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's neither here nor there. I'm expecting it to go
Speaker 2: where that website is pointing the name of a production company.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes it is. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I do a thorough check as a journalist here, but
Speaker 4: not on a company computer. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: If people only saw your text messages, Mark Runner.
Speaker 3: Let's just keep those between us.
Speaker 2: If they only knew what we knew about you.
Speaker 4: Those are private, and we're adults. Those are between male
Speaker 4: adult buddies. When you put it like that, you're making
Speaker 4: it weirder than it already is. It's not like we're
Speaker 4: sitting in a steam room together or anything. Just relax
Speaker 4: in the steamroom. Relax, Just relax. It'll go easier if
Speaker 4: you just relax.
Speaker 2: It's later with mo Kelly, it's you know, I'm quite
Speaker 2: sure we have completely pissed off George North.
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