Speaker 1: We're joined now by Nile Gardner, former advisor to Margaret Thatcher.
Speaker 1: He's also with the Heritage Foundation. Nile, you're writing this
Speaker 1: morning that what we're seeing in Spain may finally be
Speaker 1: the death knell for the European Union. This doesn't look
Speaker 1: like an institution that can stand this kind of this
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 2: Stuff many times having on the show today, and what
Speaker 2: we're witnessing unfolding in Europe is really of epic proportions.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the invasion of Spanish territory in North Africa.
Speaker 2: You've had at least fifty thousand legal migrants enter into Suita,
Speaker 2: Spanish territory in just one day, and you'll have many
Speaker 2: more coming in in the coming the coming days. Actually,
Speaker 2: in my view, this, you know, the whole issue of
Speaker 2: mass migration, the issue of illegal migration. It's fundamentally changing Europe.
Speaker 2: It's unsustainable for the future of Europe, and I believe
Speaker 2: ultimately it will lead to the unraveling of the European Union.
Speaker 2: And it may take you know, it may take many years,
Speaker 2: but some decades for the eed to ultimately collapsed. But
Speaker 2: I think it's going to happen because the European Union
Speaker 2: basically is a supranational entity. It is not about sovereignty
Speaker 2: and self determination. You cannot defeat illegal migration if you
Speaker 2: don't have control really of your own of your own borders.
Speaker 2: And all of these illegal migrants coming into into into
Speaker 2: Suta in North Africa from Morocco, they will eventually move
Speaker 2: to Spain. From Spain, they will move across the entire
Speaker 2: European Union. Under the EU's Migration Pact, there's a redistribution
Speaker 2: of migrants across all EU member states, that includes countries
Speaker 2: like you know, poland Hungary for example, And all of
Speaker 2: these illegal migrants coming in will eventually move across across Europe.
Speaker 2: And so already there are core for the Shanngen Agreement,
Speaker 2: which allows pre movement between European countries to be suspended.
Speaker 2: There's a growing civil war frankly, within the European Union
Speaker 2: between different you know, different European countries over the math
Speaker 2: migration issue, a political civil war, I have to say,
Speaker 2: But I do think we're going to see the eventual
Speaker 2: collapse of the European Union. It cannot it cannot work,
Speaker 2: You cannot succeed.
Speaker 3: Wow, that is a wow. I mean, next breaking news
Speaker 3: and in your opinion, the collapse of the European Union. Uh?
Speaker 3: Has they? Have they been has Germany? England? Uh? Well,
Speaker 3: England is no longer remember the European Reunion. France? Have
Speaker 3: they been invaded enough where where they're gonna they're going
Speaker 3: to take control of those governments? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think that. So, So the key question right now
Speaker 2: is the is the what happens to the Shangen Agreement,
Speaker 2: which which allows freedom within most EU countries. It's significant
Speaker 2: that so Italy, for example, is calling for the potential
Speaker 2: suspension of Spain from Schengen, which would be a violation
Speaker 2: of EU dictatorial law set by Brussels. And so this
Speaker 2: would result frankly in the collapse of shang And if
Speaker 2: you if you suspended one country, which is what some
Speaker 2: Italian politicians are now calling for and other other politicians
Speaker 2: across the EU, and so the whole. If Shanngen unravels,
Speaker 2: then I think the EU as a whole begins to
Speaker 2: unravel as well. Uh. And the reality is already you
Speaker 2: have massive, large scale mass migration across much of Western Europe.
Speaker 2: But it's only a matter of time before you know,
Speaker 2: migrants will be relocated to eastern and Central European countries Poland, Hungary,
Speaker 2: for example, and these nations be forced to take in illegal,
Speaker 2: illegal migrants, and eventually, you know, eventually, I think you're
Speaker 2: going to see more and more countries within the European
Speaker 2: Union seeking to leave the EU in order to control
Speaker 2: their own their own borders. And I think this will
Speaker 2: happen eventually with Poland, Hungary and some central Eastern European countries.
Speaker 2: They don't want to take in all these Aslamist migrants
Speaker 2: coming in from you know, from the Middle East, from
Speaker 2: North Africa. And so the whole, the whole of the Europeanion,
Speaker 2: the whole idea that European project is unsustainable and it's
Speaker 2: it's the antithesis of freedom, sovereignty, self determination. It's also
Speaker 2: anti anti democratic as well. So I believe that the
Speaker 2: EU is going to collapse within the next couple of decades.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think the last time you experienced
Speaker 4: this was what from the like the fifth century, the
Speaker 4: Anglo Saxon Settlement. Isn't that what you're experiencing right now,
Speaker 4: right in the fifth century.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think that you know, what we're seeing,
Speaker 2: you know, with the Islamic invasion of of of Suta,
Speaker 2: the Spanish charity of North Africa is a medieval style
Speaker 2: you know, invasions of Europe. Frankly, and let's be under
Speaker 2: no illusions, I mean no doubt that a lot of
Speaker 2: the people coming into Spanish territory are some of the
Speaker 2: worst elements in Moroccan society, which is why of the
Speaker 2: Moroccan governments happy for them to lead the country. It
Speaker 2: includes undoubtedly, you know, murderous rapists, terrorists, some of the
Speaker 2: worst of the worst, actually, and.
Speaker 4: You better start feeling sorry for the people that are
Speaker 4: there in that Sutor area, you know, because they're not
Speaker 4: used to this type of ideology and belief.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And this is what socialists to socialist open
Speaker 2: borders policies destroy countries. And Pedro Sanchez, the Spanish leader
Speaker 2: is is a socialist, you know, tyrant in many in
Speaker 2: many respects. And he's also implemented this outrageous amnesty for
Speaker 2: illegal migrant which will give a path to citizenship for
Speaker 2: about even two million illegals in Spain, which is a
Speaker 2: huge incentive of course all of these migrants coming in
Speaker 2: from Morocco. These socialist policies have real consequences it's a
Speaker 2: warning to America as well. If you let these crazy
Speaker 2: socialist communists take over power, this is what they'll do
Speaker 2: in the United States.
Speaker 1: Also, my gardener for I don't mean to interrupt, but
Speaker 1: I want you just to continuous conversation. You're a former
Speaker 1: advisor to Margaret Thatcher foreign policy analysts. You just mentioned
Speaker 1: Pedro Sanchez, the Prime Minister of Spain. He has arrived
Speaker 1: in suit and just listen to how he was greeted.
Speaker 1: Listen to this, just so you know Spain and in Europe,
Speaker 1: that kind of whistling is like booing. He's there. He's
Speaker 1: not popular because they know that he's responsible. So forget
Speaker 1: about the EU bringing down Is he going to remain
Speaker 1: prime minister much longer?
Speaker 3: Invaded bys and he's Wheelings. Well, everybody that's been stealing
Speaker 3: money from all over their own countries has gone to Spain.
Speaker 1: So Sanche I mean, is Sanche is going to be
Speaker 1: gone really soon as the prime minsigue.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's a general election in Spain next year.
Speaker 2: I think it's around October next year, and I expect
Speaker 2: that Sanchez will be thrown out of out of office.
Speaker 2: He's deeply unpopular and as you heard, from all the
Speaker 2: booing and during on the ground there in SUSA. Those
Speaker 2: are Spanish citizens who absolutely hate Sanchez.
Speaker 4: Great, and what do you do? What do you do
Speaker 4: with the people that just arrived? What happens in the
Speaker 4: year from now right when he gets when Sanchez gets outed,
Speaker 4: what happens to now these sixties that, by the way,
Speaker 4: since he first started reporting was twenty nine thousand and
Speaker 4: thirty nine thousand. Now we're up over sixty thousand. Wait
Speaker 4: till they turn around they tell you it's over one
Speaker 4: hundred thousand. What do you do with these people?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And so every single one of them should
Speaker 2: be deported immediately, but I expect the Spanish government is
Speaker 2: not going to return any of them at all. And
Speaker 2: the reason for that is because of EU law, which
Speaker 2: means that you know, if you come in as a
Speaker 2: legal migrant, you will you know, you'll have your case
Speaker 2: heard by by a judge, which can take several years.
Speaker 2: And so what happens to all these illegal migrants, They
Speaker 2: simply just they just merge into Spanish a society or
Speaker 2: the most other parts of of of.
Speaker 4: Well, I think they should bring me in as the judge.
Speaker 4: How about this? You out, you out you out, out, out, out,
Speaker 4: out and out.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Right, this is what should be done.
Speaker 2: But you know the reality is that the vast majority
Speaker 2: of the legal migrants that come into Europe, they stay
Speaker 2: in Europe and then they move across across the European Union,
Speaker 2: and very few actually get deported. And I expect that
Speaker 2: among those who come into Suita, the vast majority will
Speaker 2: end up in Spain. Uh and uh and Sanchez the
Speaker 2: course will do nothing at all to get rid of them. Oh,
Speaker 2: he will do nothing. We're in lift your finger.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Just a just a scary situation.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Well, now, Gardner, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I keep us updated. Your prediction is noted
Speaker 1: the EU will be gone in a couple of years time,
Speaker 1: because I mean, this is this does seem to be
Speaker 1: a breach at the pillar. If you can't have you know,
Speaker 1: a prison contry prision. Trump says it all about that
Speaker 1: all very often at the United States. If you don't
Speaker 1: have a border, you don't have a country. If you
Speaker 1: don't have a border, you don't have a conglomeration of
Speaker 1: countries either. I mean, even if you want to make
Speaker 1: it a conglomeration of the EU. And of course it
Speaker 1: should be noted again you were an advisor to Margaret Thatcher,
Speaker 1: who before you go, she warned us about all this,
Speaker 1: didn't she.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, Mark, Margaret Thatcher of course, you know,
Speaker 2: warned against mass migration many many decades ago. And fortunately,
Speaker 2: you know, the British peol voted to leave the European
Speaker 2: Union and so this protects the UK from the worst
Speaker 2: successes of EU migration. But it should be noted actually
Speaker 2: you know that the French government under Manau Macrant is
Speaker 2: actively exporting illegal migrants to the UK across the channel
Speaker 2: in small boats, and so they're getting rid of their
Speaker 2: illegal sending them over to Britain. And so Britain is
Speaker 2: of course fighting against a migrant invasion of its own,
Speaker 2: largely people coming from France, Islamic you know, elements from
Speaker 2: the Middle East and North Africa, and mccrown is you know,
Speaker 2: is allowing them to leave, you know, to go from
Speaker 2: France to the UK. So Britain has a big crisis also.
Speaker 1: Well, now, Garner, thank you so much for joining US
Speaker 1: foreign policy analyst, former advisor Margaret Thatcher Heritage Foundation. Your
Speaker 1: prediction is noted, and we're going to keep you, are
Speaker 1: going to hold you too a bit. I don't think
Speaker 1: you're going to You're gonna have much pressure. I think
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. And you know what, let's let's
Speaker 1: start again. Let's start again and try to have countries
Speaker 1: where we have borders and respect and instead of just
Speaker 1: a free firm.
Speaker 3: I mean, a country without borders is not a country. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 1: President Trump says that all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And thank you for coming on Nile. And God
Speaker 3: bless America, God bless UK and let's you know, let's
Speaker 3: be the power behind the free world.
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