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<v Speaker 1>We're joined now by Nile Gardner, former advisor to Margaret Thatcher.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also with the Heritage Foundation. Nile, you're writing this

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<v Speaker 1>morning that what we're seeing in Spain may finally be

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<v Speaker 1>the death knell for the European Union. This doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like an institution that can stand this kind of this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff many times having on the show today, and what

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<v Speaker 2>we're witnessing unfolding in Europe is really of epic proportions.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's the invasion of Spanish territory in North Africa.

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<v Speaker 2>You've had at least fifty thousand legal migrants enter into Suita,

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<v Speaker 2>Spanish territory in just one day, and you'll have many

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<v Speaker 2>more coming in in the coming the coming days. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>in my view, this, you know, the whole issue of

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<v Speaker 2>mass migration, the issue of illegal migration. It's fundamentally changing Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unsustainable for the future of Europe, and I believe

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately it will lead to the unraveling of the European Union.

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<v Speaker 2>And it may take you know, it may take many years,

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<v Speaker 2>but some decades for the eed to ultimately collapsed. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to happen because the European Union

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<v Speaker 2>basically is a supranational entity. It is not about sovereignty

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<v Speaker 2>and self determination. You cannot defeat illegal migration if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have control really of your own of your own borders.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of these illegal migrants coming into into into

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<v Speaker 2>Suta in North Africa from Morocco, they will eventually move

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<v Speaker 2>to Spain. From Spain, they will move across the entire

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<v Speaker 2>European Union. Under the EU's Migration Pact, there's a redistribution

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<v Speaker 2>of migrants across all EU member states, that includes countries

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, poland Hungary for example, And all of

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<v Speaker 2>these illegal migrants coming in will eventually move across across Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>And so already there are core for the Shanngen Agreement,

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<v Speaker 2>which allows pre movement between European countries to be suspended.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a growing civil war frankly, within the European Union

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<v Speaker 2>between different you know, different European countries over the math

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<v Speaker 2>migration issue, a political civil war, I have to say,

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think we're going to see the eventual

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<v Speaker 2>collapse of the European Union. It cannot it cannot work,

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot succeed.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that is a wow. I mean, next breaking news

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<v Speaker 3>and in your opinion, the collapse of the European Union. Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Has they? Have they been has Germany? England? Uh? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>England is no longer remember the European Reunion. France? Have

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<v Speaker 3>they been invaded enough where where they're gonna they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to take control of those governments? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that. So, So the key question right now

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<v Speaker 2>is the is the what happens to the Shangen Agreement,

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<v Speaker 2>which which allows freedom within most EU countries. It's significant

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<v Speaker 2>that so Italy, for example, is calling for the potential

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<v Speaker 2>suspension of Spain from Schengen, which would be a violation

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<v Speaker 2>of EU dictatorial law set by Brussels. And so this

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<v Speaker 2>would result frankly in the collapse of shang And if

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<v Speaker 2>you if you suspended one country, which is what some

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<v Speaker 2>Italian politicians are now calling for and other other politicians

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<v Speaker 2>across the EU, and so the whole. If Shanngen unravels,

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<v Speaker 2>then I think the EU as a whole begins to

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<v Speaker 2>unravel as well. Uh. And the reality is already you

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<v Speaker 2>have massive, large scale mass migration across much of Western Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's only a matter of time before you know,

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<v Speaker 2>migrants will be relocated to eastern and Central European countries Poland, Hungary,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, and these nations be forced to take in illegal,

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<v Speaker 2>illegal migrants, and eventually, you know, eventually, I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to see more and more countries within the European

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<v Speaker 2>Union seeking to leave the EU in order to control

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<v Speaker 2>their own their own borders. And I think this will

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<v Speaker 2>happen eventually with Poland, Hungary and some central Eastern European countries.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to take in all these Aslamist migrants

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<v Speaker 2>coming in from you know, from the Middle East, from

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<v Speaker 2>North Africa. And so the whole, the whole of the Europeanion,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole idea that European project is unsustainable and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's the antithesis of freedom, sovereignty, self determination. It's also

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<v Speaker 2>anti anti democratic as well. So I believe that the

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<v Speaker 2>EU is going to collapse within the next couple of decades.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I think the last time you experienced

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<v Speaker 4>this was what from the like the fifth century, the

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<v Speaker 4>Anglo Saxon Settlement. Isn't that what you're experiencing right now,

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<v Speaker 4>right in the fifth century.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean I think that you know, what we're seeing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with the Islamic invasion of of of Suta,

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<v Speaker 2>the Spanish charity of North Africa is a medieval style

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<v Speaker 2>you know, invasions of Europe. Frankly, and let's be under

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<v Speaker 2>no illusions, I mean no doubt that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the people coming into Spanish territory are some of the

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<v Speaker 2>worst elements in Moroccan society, which is why of the

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<v Speaker 2>Moroccan governments happy for them to lead the country. It

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<v Speaker 2>includes undoubtedly, you know, murderous rapists, terrorists, some of the

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<v Speaker 2>worst of the worst, actually, and.

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<v Speaker 4>You better start feeling sorry for the people that are

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<v Speaker 4>there in that Sutor area, you know, because they're not

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<v Speaker 4>used to this type of ideology and belief.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, And this is what socialists to socialist open

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<v Speaker 2>borders policies destroy countries. And Pedro Sanchez, the Spanish leader

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<v Speaker 2>is is a socialist, you know, tyrant in many in

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<v Speaker 2>many respects. And he's also implemented this outrageous amnesty for

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<v Speaker 2>illegal migrant which will give a path to citizenship for

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<v Speaker 2>about even two million illegals in Spain, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>huge incentive of course all of these migrants coming in

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<v Speaker 2>from Morocco. These socialist policies have real consequences it's a

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<v Speaker 2>warning to America as well. If you let these crazy

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<v Speaker 2>socialist communists take over power, this is what they'll do

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, my gardener for I don't mean to interrupt, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want you just to continuous conversation. You're a former

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<v Speaker 1>advisor to Margaret Thatcher foreign policy analysts. You just mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>Pedro Sanchez, the Prime Minister of Spain. He has arrived

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<v Speaker 1>in suit and just listen to how he was greeted.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to this, just so you know Spain and in Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of whistling is like booing. He's there. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not popular because they know that he's responsible. So forget

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<v Speaker 1>about the EU bringing down Is he going to remain

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<v Speaker 1>prime minister much longer?

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<v Speaker 3>Invaded bys and he's Wheelings. Well, everybody that's been stealing

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<v Speaker 3>money from all over their own countries has gone to Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sanche I mean, is Sanche is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>gone really soon as the prime minsigue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So there's a general election in Spain next year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's around October next year, and I expect

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<v Speaker 2>that Sanchez will be thrown out of out of office.

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<v Speaker 2>He's deeply unpopular and as you heard, from all the

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<v Speaker 2>booing and during on the ground there in SUSA. Those

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<v Speaker 2>are Spanish citizens who absolutely hate Sanchez.

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<v Speaker 4>Great, and what do you do? What do you do

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<v Speaker 4>with the people that just arrived? What happens in the

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<v Speaker 4>year from now right when he gets when Sanchez gets outed,

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<v Speaker 4>what happens to now these sixties that, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>since he first started reporting was twenty nine thousand and

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<v Speaker 4>thirty nine thousand. Now we're up over sixty thousand. Wait

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<v Speaker 4>till they turn around they tell you it's over one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred thousand. What do you do with these people?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, And so every single one of them should

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<v Speaker 2>be deported immediately, but I expect the Spanish government is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to return any of them at all. And

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<v Speaker 2>the reason for that is because of EU law, which

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<v Speaker 2>means that you know, if you come in as a

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<v Speaker 2>legal migrant, you will you know, you'll have your case

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<v Speaker 2>heard by by a judge, which can take several years.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what happens to all these illegal migrants, They

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<v Speaker 2>simply just they just merge into Spanish a society or

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<v Speaker 2>the most other parts of of of.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think they should bring me in as the judge.

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<v Speaker 4>How about this? You out, you out you out, out, out, out,

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<v Speaker 4>out and out.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. Right, this is what should be done.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know the reality is that the vast majority

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<v Speaker 2>of the legal migrants that come into Europe, they stay

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<v Speaker 2>in Europe and then they move across across the European Union,

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<v Speaker 2>and very few actually get deported. And I expect that

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<v Speaker 2>among those who come into Suita, the vast majority will

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<v Speaker 2>end up in Spain. Uh and uh and Sanchez the

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<v Speaker 2>course will do nothing at all to get rid of them. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he will do nothing. We're in lift your finger.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a just a scary situation.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, now, Gardner, thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I keep us updated. Your prediction is noted

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<v Speaker 1>the EU will be gone in a couple of years time,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, this is this does seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>a breach at the pillar. If you can't have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a prison contry prision. Trump says it all about that

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<v Speaker 1>all very often at the United States. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a border, you don't have a country. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a border, you don't have a conglomeration of

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<v Speaker 1>countries either. I mean, even if you want to make

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<v Speaker 1>it a conglomeration of the EU. And of course it

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<v Speaker 1>should be noted again you were an advisor to Margaret Thatcher,

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<v Speaker 1>who before you go, she warned us about all this,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't she.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know, Mark, Margaret Thatcher of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>warned against mass migration many many decades ago. And fortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the British peol voted to leave the European

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<v Speaker 2>Union and so this protects the UK from the worst

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<v Speaker 2>successes of EU migration. But it should be noted actually

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<v Speaker 2>you know that the French government under Manau Macrant is

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<v Speaker 2>actively exporting illegal migrants to the UK across the channel

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<v Speaker 2>in small boats, and so they're getting rid of their

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<v Speaker 2>illegal sending them over to Britain. And so Britain is

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<v Speaker 2>of course fighting against a migrant invasion of its own,

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<v Speaker 2>largely people coming from France, Islamic you know, elements from

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<v Speaker 2>the Middle East and North Africa, and mccrown is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>is allowing them to leave, you know, to go from

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<v Speaker 2>France to the UK. So Britain has a big crisis also.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, now, Garner, thank you so much for joining US

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<v Speaker 1>foreign policy analyst, former advisor Margaret Thatcher Heritage Foundation. Your

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<v Speaker 1>prediction is noted, and we're going to keep you, are

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<v Speaker 1>going to hold you too a bit. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to You're gonna have much pressure. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to happen. And you know what, let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>start again. Let's start again and try to have countries

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<v Speaker 1>where we have borders and respect and instead of just

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<v Speaker 1>a free firm.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, a country without borders is not a country. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump says that all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And thank you for coming on Nile. And God

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<v Speaker 3>bless America, God bless UK and let's you know, let's

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<v Speaker 3>be the power behind the free world.

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