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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Sunday Service episode brought to
Speaker 2: you by Cult of Conspiracy. I am your host, Josh Monday.
Speaker 2: If you don't know me, I'm a Christian rapper, devoted
Speaker 2: her husband, father and imry veteran, and I am the
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Speaker 2: guys for joining me. I have a very special guest
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Speaker 2: at least two to three times, and every time that
Speaker 2: we have had a show together, I think we connect
Speaker 2: very well, you know, so I think we have good chemistry.
Speaker 2: So Nathan Reynolds, his book is called Snatched from the flames,
Speaker 2: and it is super important for you guys to go
Speaker 2: check that out. And if you could introduce yourself, Nathan,
Speaker 2: how's it going.
Speaker 4: Brother, Absolutely fantastic, Josh, I'm pumped to be here.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I always have just a wonderful time when we get
Speaker 4: on here together. So yeah, you know, those of you.
Speaker 4: I am also a father of four children right now.
Speaker 4: I've got twin babies, man, which is savage and relentless
Speaker 4: and wonderful. And you know my family and I you know,
Speaker 4: I came from an organized crime family, to put it
Speaker 4: super nicely, and devoted my life in the last eight
Speaker 4: years to trying to expose the kingdom of darkness, you know,
Speaker 4: and have nothing to do with the unfruitful works of darkness.
Speaker 4: We're called to expose and reprove them, and so I
Speaker 4: have devoted myself to speaking and sharing about those those
Speaker 4: things that others would rather not be said, you know.
Speaker 4: But I have found just great reward in changing of covenants.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I was born into a kingdom of darkness and understood
Speaker 4: very quickly quickly what can happen when you live a
Speaker 4: life of compromise. And you know what, I've got to
Speaker 4: see the power of changing teams and the efficacy of
Speaker 4: renouncing the secret ways of shame that had once bound
Speaker 4: me in bondage for so long in my life. And
Speaker 4: so we have devoted ourselves to trying to just stir
Speaker 4: up in people a hunger for the Word, you know,
Speaker 4: because ultimately, at the end of the day, that is
Speaker 4: what ransomed my life and gave me purpose and zealousness,
Speaker 4: and gave me a firm foundation to stand upon when
Speaker 4: the chaos and the storms of life blew upon me.
Speaker 4: But we have traveled. We spent four and a half
Speaker 4: years traveling full time in an RV all over the
Speaker 4: country and trying to learn some of the lost ancient
Speaker 4: ways that I did not get, you know, like being
Speaker 4: a farmer and being a shepherd and a butcher and
Speaker 4: all kinds of different little skill sets. But along there
Speaker 4: that way, we also got to meet the body of
Speaker 4: Messiah all over this country. And it has given us
Speaker 4: a galvanized zealousness to continue to preach the Gospel to
Speaker 4: every creature, no matter what the cost is.
Speaker 2: And he and that's what you do, man. I see
Speaker 2: him hop on so many different shows, and he's a
Speaker 2: guest on and he does a wonderful job. Check out
Speaker 2: his YouTube. Can you shot the YouTube out for them
Speaker 2: as well?
Speaker 4: It's just YouTube Nathan Reynolds and or snatched from the
Speaker 4: flames dot Com. I got the audiobook, but more importantly,
Speaker 4: and you know it's awesome. You guys can check it out.
Speaker 4: I've got to name your own price a PDF version,
Speaker 4: but I also have the entirety of the scriptures. I
Speaker 4: did an audio dramatized version from Genesis to Revelation because
Speaker 4: I believed it was critical that people have an opportunity
Speaker 4: to saturate themselves in the world and get to understand
Speaker 4: it for themselves, whether or not they actually want to
Speaker 4: be people that claim to be followers of this book,
Speaker 4: whether or not they don't. So it helped to know
Speaker 4: it from beginning to end. So, dude, I'm pumped that
Speaker 4: you are actually wading into it from Genesis onward to
Speaker 4: teach you way through. Man, it'll change you forever.
Speaker 2: I know. I was trying to dude, Okay, So I
Speaker 2: just what I need to do. This is what I
Speaker 2: need to do for the show that everybody that's listening.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to take time away at least two days
Speaker 2: a week of about eight hour studies on. You know,
Speaker 2: I basically just have a podcast Are the Bible Going
Speaker 2: in My ears? And then I'm studying all these different
Speaker 2: things for you guys, and I'm trying to bring as
Speaker 2: much knowledge as I can. But just understand, guys, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna bring it from a Christian and conspiracy point of view.
Speaker 2: Just like the people I bring on the show. Nathan
Speaker 2: has been through crazy stuff. Okay, so he is definitely
Speaker 2: involved in the conspiracy side of it, but he's Christian
Speaker 2: and he's saved, so I'm gonna do my best to
Speaker 2: bring I will definitely bring Christians here. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: bring any non Christian here. I'm not gonna have anybody
Speaker 2: that's New Age or anything. This is gonna be all
Speaker 2: unless Jonathan and Jacob hop on the show from Cult
Speaker 2: the Conspiracy. I can't help that because it's their show,
Speaker 2: so they could do whatever they want. But I'm just
Speaker 2: saying I will try to bring you the best people
Speaker 2: I could possibly bring, and Nathan is one of those
Speaker 2: Pastor rich Tidwell that I brought it to one. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna try to bring you guys heavy hitters, and we're
Speaker 2: just gonna do Bible study and I hope you guys
Speaker 2: like it and enjoy it. You know, that's the main thing.
Speaker 2: This is just for you guys, enjoyment. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, faith come by hearing and hearing by the
Speaker 2: Word of God. So you're gonna be building faith as
Speaker 2: you go and you can't dude, I'll tell you something, man,
Speaker 2: I think there's a need for this right now because
Speaker 2: there's people in the conspiracy side that get fed so
Speaker 2: much information and they go down the biggest rabbit holes.
Speaker 2: But you gotta have something at the end of that
Speaker 2: rabbit hole. You gotta have Jesus the way, the truth
Speaker 2: to life, the real truth, to bring you out of
Speaker 2: these dark rabbit holes that you guys are going down. Okay,
Speaker 2: so this is the way to do it, is to
Speaker 2: dig deep, and we're gonna bring everything from a conspiratorial
Speaker 2: point of view. So let's go, guys. We're gonna dig
Speaker 2: into the word. Okay. This is the obviously the best
Speaker 2: part and the most enjoyable for me. Let's find that
Speaker 2: page that I had brought up here it is. Let's
Speaker 2: go boom. And if you're listening on audio, you know,
Speaker 2: I I am. I don't know if this is gonna
Speaker 2: you know, I think this is on Spotify. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they do Spotify Video, but I think it's
Speaker 2: good for this because I know that on the their
Speaker 2: patreon or whatever, they're gonna play this and people can
Speaker 2: see the video. So if you're listening on Spotify, join
Speaker 2: their patreons, you could see it and on video. All right,
Speaker 2: so let's do this. So all right, so we're gonna
Speaker 2: start where we left off. We left off on Genesis
Speaker 2: fourteen uh eighteen uh, and we're gonna be talking about
Speaker 2: Abraham or Abraham and Malkisa Deck. I think this is
Speaker 2: very important and I have a lot of stuff to
Speaker 2: kind of go over on Malchisa Deck, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: Nathan has some pretty important stuff as well. So i'll
Speaker 2: start it off. Let's start off by by by reading.
Speaker 2: So it says then Malkisa Deck, king of Salem, brought
Speaker 2: out bread and wine. And he was the priest of God.
Speaker 2: He is the priest of God most High, and he
Speaker 2: has blessed. He has blessed him and said, blessed be
Speaker 2: Abram of God most High, possessor of heaven and earth.
Speaker 2: And blessed be God most High, who has delivered your
Speaker 2: enemies into your hand, and he gave him a tithe
Speaker 2: of all. Okay, so let's just stop there real quick.
Speaker 2: So very interesting, man, who is this guy?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: Who is Malkisa Dec This is before the vitical priests,
Speaker 2: So this is usually if you are gonna be a priest,
Speaker 2: you have to be a Levite, you know. Malkisa Deck
Speaker 2: is not that they don't even know who his parents are. Okay,
Speaker 2: we'll find that in the Book of Hebrews. But let's
Speaker 2: kind of dig in real quick. We have we have
Speaker 2: Abram coming, the King of said he brought out bread
Speaker 2: and wine that reminds you of you know, like like
Speaker 2: Jesus right there, right, And then we have the priest
Speaker 2: of God, the Most High. So he is the priest
Speaker 2: of the most High God. I think it's very interesting.
Speaker 2: He's a Canaanite, right, I think he lives in the
Speaker 2: Atlantic Canaan Usually you're not really seeing these guys most
Speaker 2: most of the time. These guys are are pagan, you know.
Speaker 2: So what's going on here? You know? So I want
Speaker 2: to go over a few things quick. So on that
Speaker 2: Kisa Deck, right, So he's the king of Salem, right,
Speaker 2: and and Salem is actually that that's that's it actually
Speaker 2: means peace. So he's the king of peace priests of
Speaker 2: the Most High, just like Jesus, you know, is a
Speaker 2: king and a priest. So he's a king and he's
Speaker 2: also a priest, something we don't see in the scriptures
Speaker 2: at all. This is like the only guy besides Jesus
Speaker 2: who is the king of kings, you know, lord of
Speaker 2: lords and our and our priests that we see this
Speaker 2: a king and a priest at the same time. So
Speaker 2: king of Salem, right, Salem is it means peace. So
Speaker 2: he's the king of peace. So there's like kind of
Speaker 2: a kind of a little he's like he's like what
Speaker 2: they call a not a Christophany, but he's like a
Speaker 2: type of Christ. Some people actually believe this is Jesus
Speaker 2: uh in the Old Testament. But what's your thoughts on
Speaker 2: on Alkisa dec Nathan all my notes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, well just real quick too. You know, we
Speaker 4: don't have any other reference to say that, you know,
Speaker 4: the Messiah or Jesus or Yeshua was reigning over a kingdom,
Speaker 4: you know, on the earth, and so I think these
Speaker 4: are this is more one of those archetype foreshadowing moments.
Speaker 4: For us to be able to understand, you know. There's
Speaker 4: one other reference to the sons of David are also
Speaker 4: referenced as in the Book of Samuel they're described as
Speaker 4: they are priests, you know, and then in the Book
Speaker 4: of Chronicles they're described as as kings, you know, they're
Speaker 4: described as princes, you know. And so we also see
Speaker 4: a similar in the lineage of David. This is carrying
Speaker 4: on of priests and kings and this desire, like it
Speaker 4: says in Second Peter, where he this is what he
Speaker 4: has foreshadowed for us. Likewise, those that become sons and
Speaker 4: daughters in his kingdom, this is this is his intention
Speaker 4: for what we are to become his sovereigns and rulers
Speaker 4: in that regard. So one of the things I'm most
Speaker 4: excited about to get into on this too, is is
Speaker 4: some of the archaeological evidence about the Temple, the First
Speaker 4: Temple Temple zero, which was one of these the more
Speaker 4: modern discoveries there of the First Temple I was ever
Speaker 4: discovered there at Mountain Zion over this spring Agui Horn
Speaker 4: and where they really believe this is the very place
Speaker 4: that likely Melchizidek. And then the lineage of those that
Speaker 4: went up there, like Jacob and others later on established
Speaker 4: a place where there was offerings and sacrifices in the
Speaker 4: anointing of the standing stone that Jacob set up, the
Speaker 4: one that he slept on when he was traveling to Bethel.
Speaker 4: So that's one of those things I want to dig
Speaker 4: into tonight, but I don't want to distract you too
Speaker 4: much from where you're going.
Speaker 2: Brother, No, no worries, No worries. And also you guys,
Speaker 2: as you guys saw when we went over the flood,
Speaker 2: you saw that Noah when he when he set up
Speaker 2: a sacrifice. We also have Abram seven up the sacrifices.
Speaker 2: So this is already there. It's not like levitical law
Speaker 2: is not here yet, you know. So this is this
Speaker 2: is already something that they that they do. They set
Speaker 2: up an altar, they sacrifice to God. So we have
Speaker 2: this already established. So now Malac is the very first
Speaker 2: part of Mckisdeck's name, and it means king. And then
Speaker 2: it's saidak. This is in Hebrew saidak, which means righteous.
Speaker 2: So his name in Hebrew means king of righteous. Okay,
Speaker 2: So Malchisedek, So check that out. Uh, the author of
Speaker 2: Hebrews brings up his his name and his argument, uh,
Speaker 2: for Christ's greatness. It says in here the first time
Speaker 2: you hear of him. So we will continue reading. Uh,
Speaker 2: let's see. So I want to kind of go over
Speaker 2: a few things. So it says then Malkisi, the king
Speaker 2: of Salem, brought out bread and wine, so that similar
Speaker 2: to Jesus, he was the priest of the God Most
Speaker 2: High before there was even a livid political priest. Also,
Speaker 2: he wasn't he was He wasn't a pagan priest because
Speaker 2: it was you know, because he was a priest of
Speaker 2: the God most High. Let's continue. He said, uh, and
Speaker 2: he and he blessed him. Blessed be Abraham, God the
Speaker 2: most High, possessor of heaven and earth. And blessed be God,
Speaker 2: the most High. He was the deliverer of your enemies
Speaker 2: into your hands. So what what it's It's what's interesting
Speaker 2: to me, man, is that it's is that, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: he's a priest of the Most High. I kind of
Speaker 2: went over that little part a little bit. But he's
Speaker 2: also mentioned in the Book of Hebrews later on, you know,
Speaker 2: in the future, so we'll kind of get into that.
Speaker 2: But if you want, we can continue reading. What's the
Speaker 2: part that you wanted to go over. You said that
Speaker 2: you had some archaeological proof for something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, if it's all right, I'll share a screen.
Speaker 4: Even though this is audio, I'll walk you guys through
Speaker 4: a little bit of this. But just not too long ago,
Speaker 4: there was excavations that were taking place in some construction
Speaker 4: that was taking place off of the Temple mount area,
Speaker 4: not directly over the traditional site that has been looked at,
Speaker 4: but there's this spring of Kidron, this pool of Kidron,
Speaker 4: which has talked about quite a bit in this the
Speaker 4: Gihon spring, excuse me, And this is the actual only
Speaker 4: water source that can be used into the city. And
Speaker 4: this has made famous more in modernity because of Hezekaya
Speaker 4: Dug a tunnel and from which they were able to
Speaker 4: bring the water from outside what would have been outside
Speaker 4: of the walls of Jerusalem proper, and they were able
Speaker 4: to funnel that into the actual Temple Mount area so
Speaker 4: they could have water during the time of sieging, and
Speaker 4: that temple is there's an inscription that was found inside there.
Speaker 4: More in modern times, in the nineteen thirties and forties
Speaker 4: that had ancient paleo Hebrew inscriptions on that inside the
Speaker 4: temple or inside this tunnel, and that Paleo Hebrew inscriptions
Speaker 4: literally describe how that tunnel was dug between two different parties,
Speaker 4: coming from different directions and meeting in the middle and
Speaker 4: intersecting at that point. It's really incredible, uh It just
Speaker 4: I'm an incredible inscription that has actually been preserved over time.
Speaker 4: And I got turned onto this because I was trying
Speaker 4: to study ancient Paleo Hebrew, because I had this like
Speaker 4: deep desire of my life. I wanted to be able
Speaker 4: to read the word for myself. If I ever found
Speaker 4: the artifacts, you know, stuff that actually had the fingerprints
Speaker 4: of our creator carved on it, how would I even
Speaker 4: know what it says? Or would I always be dependent
Speaker 4: on translations from other people the rest of my life?
Speaker 4: And so anyways, it launched me down this total rabbit
Speaker 4: hole and into the midst of this was what was
Speaker 4: found above this spring and above this pool. And this
Speaker 4: is the same place where where Solomon was anointed to
Speaker 4: be king, a really important body of water that you'll
Speaker 4: see throughout the scriptures. It's the same the pool sidewalk,
Speaker 4: which is where Yeshua literally opened the eyes of the
Speaker 4: blind Man told him go wash in it. You know,
Speaker 4: paramount places throughout the all of all of history. But
Speaker 4: as they were doing some excavations, they found they found this.
Speaker 4: They uncovered this spot that had this room and had
Speaker 4: an olive press in it. And they started digging and
Speaker 4: exploring more into this area. And then they found an
Speaker 4: area that was used for sacrificing of animals. And they
Speaker 4: found into this chamber that had a standing stone and
Speaker 4: it was a single stone that was surrounded by twelve
Speaker 4: stones around it, and it was a place where they
Speaker 4: were anointing this stone. And they began to try to uncover,
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, this is this the stone that Jacob anointed,
Speaker 4: you know and literally pressed olive oil. And this was
Speaker 4: literally what they believed took place here was this is
Speaker 4: the original temple. That this is the place that when
Speaker 4: when David later on, like when he moved the temple
Speaker 4: and set up the tabernacle, right the tent of David,
Speaker 4: the tent to Moses from time in antiquity. He didn't
Speaker 4: take that down until Solomon's time frame. Solomon is the
Speaker 4: one who actually packed up the original temp the original
Speaker 4: Tabernacle of Moses, but up until that time that this
Speaker 4: is literally the place where they were doing sacrifices and offering.
Speaker 4: Like you said, during the times of pagan pagan gods
Speaker 4: ruling and reigning in different priest class there was still
Speaker 4: a set apart priesthood people that followed the ways of
Speaker 4: the most high irre regardless of the actual society norms
Speaker 4: that were around them. And so this is where they
Speaker 4: really believe this is the spot that Melchizedek was operating
Speaker 4: and functioning from, and it is the oldest archaeological evidence
Speaker 4: of that. It's really fascinating. You guys can watch a
Speaker 4: video I did, which is if you want to see
Speaker 4: a shorter synopsis of it, called the Temple Zero Complex
Speaker 4: on my oh my channel, because there's just it's an
Speaker 4: amazing peak into history that is just otherwise so veiled
Speaker 4: from so many of us, especially because we don't live
Speaker 4: over there. We have no idea what's going on in
Speaker 4: that area. But this is one that's now open for
Speaker 4: tours and people can actually go and witness this area.
Speaker 4: But this historical items and artifacts have been preserved all
Speaker 4: throughout time immemorial, and it's a beautiful testimony of what
Speaker 4: has been preserved. You know, it's like I've always fixated
Speaker 4: when I hear these things like issue, a set of
Speaker 4: people are going to be quiet about these things. The
Speaker 4: stones themselves will cry out. And so I'm adamantly convinced
Speaker 4: that the Father preserves his testimony even in the stones
Speaker 4: themselves that will bear witness, regardless of obfuscation and the
Speaker 4: line pen of the scribes and all these other just
Speaker 4: tricks and tactics that the enemy's taken up over the years,
Speaker 4: that these things are still there bearing witness for time immemorial.
Speaker 2: Yes, amen, bro. So that's great, and that kind of
Speaker 2: brings you back to Malkisa deck as well. I'm going
Speaker 2: to go to Hebrews seven one through twenty eight real quick.
Speaker 2: I'm going to read from my phone. So we got
Speaker 2: from akiz A dec. The King of Salaam. This is
Speaker 2: Hebrew's seven to one starting there. For this is Malkisa dec.
Speaker 2: King of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who
Speaker 2: met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and
Speaker 2: blessed him, to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part
Speaker 2: of all first being translated king of Righteousness and then
Speaker 2: also King of Salem, meaning king of peace, whether without father,
Speaker 2: without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor
Speaker 2: end of life, but made like the son of God,
Speaker 2: remains a priest continually. Now consider how great this man was,
Speaker 2: to whom even the patriarch Abraham gave a tenth to
Speaker 2: his spoils. And indeed, those who are of the sons
Speaker 2: of Levi, who received the priesthood, have a commandment to
Speaker 2: receive ties from the people according to the law, that is,
Speaker 2: from their brethren, though they came from the loins of Abraham.
Speaker 2: But he whose genealogy is not derived from the received
Speaker 2: tithes from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises. Now,
Speaker 2: beyond all contradiction, the lesser blessed by the better. Here
Speaker 2: mortal men receive ties, but there he receives them, of
Speaker 2: whom it is witnessed that he lives. Even Levi, who
Speaker 2: received ties, paid ties through Abraham, so to speak, for
Speaker 2: he was still in the loins of his father well
Speaker 2: when Malchisedek met him. Therefore, perfection were through the levitical priesthood,
Speaker 2: for under it people received the law. What further need
Speaker 2: was there that another priest should rise according to the
Speaker 2: order of Alchisa Dec and not be called according to
Speaker 2: the order of Arin, for the priesthood being changed of necessity,
Speaker 2: there is also a change of the law, for he
Speaker 2: whom things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which
Speaker 2: no man has officiated at the altar w It is
Speaker 2: evident that our lord arose from Judah, of which tribe
Speaker 2: of Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood. And yet it is
Speaker 2: far evident in the likeness of Alchisedec there arises another
Speaker 2: priest who has come not according to the law flesh
Speaker 2: of the commandment, but according to the power of the
Speaker 2: endless life, where he testifies you are a priest forever
Speaker 2: according to the order of alchis Dec Man. That's very
Speaker 2: interesting that just that whole section it says that Malchisa
Speaker 2: Dec doesn't have a parent, doesn't have a father or
Speaker 2: a mother. A lot of people compared on Malchisa Dec
Speaker 2: like to maybe Jesus in the Old Testament. But as
Speaker 2: we were reading, do you notice how it says, you know,
Speaker 2: like the son of God. It doesn't say he is
Speaker 2: the son of God. You know, what do you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah? And it also it's just it's also giving a
Speaker 4: point that this character of Melchizedic pops up in the
Speaker 4: midst of a story, and he's not given a genealogy.
Speaker 4: We don't we're not given a heraldry on him specifically.
Speaker 4: But that's not to say that he was just kind
Speaker 4: of born without parents, right, There's there's nobody that's ever
Speaker 4: described like that in the same way. But if anything,
Speaker 4: they're just highlighting the fact that listen, this this guy
Speaker 4: popped up in a sense. Now there is traditional I'll
Speaker 4: say this too. On the other side of it, if
Speaker 4: you go into kind of the books of Jasher, Jubilees
Speaker 4: and some of these other books, you'll find that that
Speaker 4: he is believed to be Shem, that he is one
Speaker 4: of the sons of Noah as well, that that could
Speaker 4: be one of the possible identifying characteristics of him, you know,
Speaker 4: in Jubilees and Joshure, it's it's basically shares that that
Speaker 4: Noah and Shem were the ones who took Abraham in
Speaker 4: when he was very young, when he was really little,
Speaker 4: when he was hiding from Nimrod, like while he was
Speaker 4: seeking his life to destroy him, that he was raised
Speaker 4: up and instructed in the ways of the most woaise
Speaker 4: Yohua early on in his life through this way, because
Speaker 4: we do have, like you said earlier man, this the
Speaker 4: priesthood has been something that was established from Adam. Adam
Speaker 4: was the first carrier of the priesthood. He was the
Speaker 4: first one to be given the instructions of the Most High.
Speaker 4: What was revealed to him was how to worship the
Speaker 4: Most High, and he passed that on to his sons. Clearly,
Speaker 4: that's why abele knew how to bring an offering that
Speaker 4: was righteous, how to bring clean animals to it, and
Speaker 4: how to bring something offering by fire. You know that
Speaker 4: that was something that was imparted to Adam. And then
Speaker 4: we do see this carrying on of that understanding and
Speaker 4: going all the way through the times of the great
Speaker 4: deceptions happening before the flood, and then all the way
Speaker 4: up to Noah preserving that and passing that on to
Speaker 4: his sons, and Sham being the one to continue to
Speaker 4: instruct those that came after him. But Melchizedek is a
Speaker 4: fascinating character because he is this absolute representative of even
Speaker 4: amidst a corrupt and perverse culture, he is still this
Speaker 4: righteous and upright king and a prince of peace. You know,
Speaker 4: and yet he is ruling and ra and establishing that
Speaker 4: kingdom and bringing to abram after this crazy massive onslaught
Speaker 4: where he fights a bunch of people that just slaughter
Speaker 4: giants in their armies. He's got this crazy battle with
Speaker 4: three hundred and eighteen of his choice trained servants. And
Speaker 4: then he comes out of that and he is sitting there,
Speaker 4: got all the plunder and all the booty and all
Speaker 4: the spoils, and here comes not only the King of
Speaker 4: you have the Prince of Peace, kind of the King
Speaker 4: of righteousness showing up, but you also have like the
Speaker 4: Great Temptation showing up with the kings of Sodom, who
Speaker 4: is literally trying to basically kind of bribe him at
Speaker 4: the same moment. And it's this very contrasting moment in
Speaker 4: the story that is should not be zoomed out of
Speaker 4: too quickly, because here he is being explained to the
Speaker 4: bread and the wine in this very pivotal moment in history,
Speaker 4: and then he is also being shown and contrasted with
Speaker 4: the riches of the wicked, you know, I mean, the
Speaker 4: greatest abominations, and he refuses, I mean the corrupt money
Speaker 4: in a sense, and he instead embraces the bread and
Speaker 4: the wine, and to me, that is the embodiment of
Speaker 4: the covenant that he is now carrying on. And he
Speaker 4: is going to pass on this preserved tradition of what
Speaker 4: this covenant is between the bread and the wine and
Speaker 4: passes on to his sons for eternity until Yeshua literally
Speaker 4: shows up and explains them in Matthew twenty six. You know,
Speaker 4: like the bread of life and understanding what is the
Speaker 4: bread and the wine? You know, and what is the
Speaker 4: paramount understanding of how that interconnects in our relationship with
Speaker 4: the Most High?
Speaker 2: Yes, amen, bro, So we'll continue reading. And yeah, man,
Speaker 2: imagine the faith that Abraham has. Man, he's in the
Speaker 2: Hall of Faith. But if you guys read in the
Speaker 2: Book of Hebrews for a reason. So we got now.
Speaker 2: The King of Saddam said Sodom, Saddam Saddam Hussein. Now
Speaker 2: the King of Sodom said to Abraham, give me the
Speaker 2: persons and take the goods for yourself. But Abraham, but
Speaker 2: Abram said to the King of Sodom, I have raised
Speaker 2: my hand to the Lord God Most High, the possessor
Speaker 2: of heaven and Earth, and I will take nothing from
Speaker 2: the thread of a sandal strap, and I will not
Speaker 2: take anything that is yours less you say, I have
Speaker 2: made Abraham rich, except only that the young men have
Speaker 2: eaten and the portion of the men who went with me,
Speaker 2: and now Eshkol memory let them take their portion. So
Speaker 2: like he was saying, he denied it, right, He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I won't even take a sandal strap for me. You know,
Speaker 2: he's he's not. He's not. He's not compromising at all
Speaker 2: for the for the sinful nation, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: there's there's he he's already warning a lot too. You know,
Speaker 2: we'll see we'll see here pretty soon here, uh to
Speaker 2: not to not be in a Sodom magamora before, you know.
Speaker 2: So he knows the evil. He just had this battle
Speaker 2: that we talked about last show. If you guys want
Speaker 2: to go back to the last show, if this is
Speaker 2: if you missed it, check it out. Man, this battle
Speaker 2: that was happening between all these kings like I said,
Speaker 2: and it did mention the Rafayem and all these like
Speaker 2: you said, the giants and all this stuff that and
Speaker 2: I do believe and and Sodom Mega Moorra was actually
Speaker 2: fighting with the giants the Rafayen that was they were
Speaker 2: on each other's side. So I do believe, you know,
Speaker 2: as we get into Sodom Megamore a little bit later, man,
Speaker 2: there was strange flesh there happening, and we'll get into it.
Speaker 2: But there was something else going on besides just the
Speaker 2: activity that people think, you know, homosexual. I think there
Speaker 2: was some demonic acts, maybe sex with demon sex with
Speaker 2: trying to get sex with fallen angels, something like that.
Speaker 4: You know, there's another I would love to read a
Speaker 4: little section from the Book of Joshure that goes into
Speaker 4: more details of the wickedness, specific of what was happening
Speaker 4: in Sodom and why Yeah, the iniquity of that was,
Speaker 4: like why was it that it was so highlighted for
Speaker 4: great utter destruction into where later on in the scriptures
Speaker 4: it describes like Sodom and Gomorrah is literally like an
Speaker 4: It uses this word an end sign, like a physical
Speaker 4: witness forever for not forever, that's still standing today, that
Speaker 4: we can look about that the judgment, the wrath of
Speaker 4: the Most high is will be fulfilled. That Yohua will
Speaker 4: absolutely judge the wicked, and he literally says as those
Speaker 4: basically the ruinous heaps of sodom and war are still
Speaker 4: standing there as a witness to remind you all like
Speaker 4: he is not slack in committing his judgment, you know.
Speaker 4: But this is just for an understanding about like the
Speaker 4: types of blood, money, the types of wealth that where
Speaker 4: this this the silver, the gold, the jewels, the slaves,
Speaker 4: all of this wealth that Abraham had just conquered and
Speaker 4: taken back that this king is sitting there trying to
Speaker 4: offer to him. Understand, this is the this is where
Speaker 4: the origins of some of that came from. So I'm
Speaker 4: gonna read to you guys, this is this was put
Speaker 4: out by the late Rob Skiba. By the way, this
Speaker 4: is called the Genesis and the synchronized biblically endorsed extra
Speaker 4: Biblical texts. This has Genesis from the Greek septuagen and
Speaker 4: then it has Jasher Jubilees and First Enoch, so valuable
Speaker 4: tools to mine from for those of you that are
Speaker 4: trying to trying to dive into a little bit of
Speaker 4: a deeper understanding of how how did you know First Temple,
Speaker 4: Second Temple? And you know the apostles, what what was
Speaker 4: their mindset when they were writing scriptures? And where did
Speaker 4: they what were the kind of books and texts that
Speaker 4: they were reading from. So anyways, this is uh in
Speaker 4: chapter this picks up. It's actually three or four chapters
Speaker 4: specifically going into details of what was happening in Sodom
Speaker 4: and Gomora at this time, including Eliezar being sent by
Speaker 4: Abraham into the city and then just crazy stuff that
Speaker 4: happens to him, and and a lot of it deals
Speaker 4: with wicked judges. It has to do with complete corruption
Speaker 4: of the system, from the poor to the rich, from
Speaker 4: the nobody's to the governors, the absolute complete totality of
Speaker 4: evil continually going on in the city. But this just
Speaker 4: picks up here in verse four here and it said,
Speaker 4: and by desire verse three, excuse me, and by desire
Speaker 4: of their four judges, the people of Sodom and Gomorrah
Speaker 4: had beds erected in the streets of the city. If
Speaker 4: a man came to these places, they laid hold of
Speaker 4: him and brought him to one of their beds, and
Speaker 4: by force made him to lie in them. And as
Speaker 4: he laid down, three men would stand at his head
Speaker 4: and three at his feet, and measure him by the
Speaker 4: length of the bed. If the man was less than
Speaker 4: the bed, these men six men would stretch him out
Speaker 4: at each end, and when he cried out to them,
Speaker 4: they would not answer him. And if he was longer
Speaker 4: than the bed, they would draw together the two sides
Speaker 4: of the bed at each end until the man reached
Speaker 4: the gates of death. If he continued to cry out
Speaker 4: to them, they would answer him, saying, thus shall it
Speaker 4: be done to the man that comes into our land.
Speaker 4: And when men heard all these things that the people
Speaker 4: of the cities of Sodom did, they refrained from going there.
Speaker 4: And when a poor man came to their land, they
Speaker 4: would give him silver and gold, and cause a proclamation
Speaker 4: in the whole city not to give him a morsel
Speaker 4: of bread to eat. If the stranger should remain there
Speaker 4: some days and die from hunger, not having been able
Speaker 4: to obtain a morsel of bread, then at his death
Speaker 4: all the people of the city would come and take
Speaker 4: their silver and gold which they had given to him,
Speaker 4: and those that could recognize the silver or gold which
Speaker 4: they had given him took it back. And at his
Speaker 4: death they also stripped him of his garments and would
Speaker 4: fight about them, and he that prevailed over them took
Speaker 4: it from his neighbors. Then they would carry him and
Speaker 4: bury him under the shrubs and the deaths. So they
Speaker 4: did all the days to anyone that came to them
Speaker 4: and died in their land. And when the kings I'm
Speaker 4: going to jump ahead of verse twenty three here because
Speaker 4: this plays out a lot more horrifically here. And when
Speaker 4: the kings of Ilam had made war with the kings
Speaker 4: of Sodom, the king of Alam captured all the property
Speaker 4: of Sodom and took Lot captive with his property. And
Speaker 4: when it was told to Abram, he went and made
Speaker 4: war with the kings of Alam and recovered from their
Speaker 4: hands all the property of Lot, as well as the
Speaker 4: property of Sodom. At that time, the wife of Lot
Speaker 4: bore him a daughter, and he called her name Palteeth,
Speaker 4: saying because Eluhim had delivered him in the whole household
Speaker 4: from the kings of Alam. And Paul Teeth, daughter of Lot,
Speaker 4: grew up, and one of the men as Sodom, took
Speaker 4: her for a wife. And a poor man came into
Speaker 4: the city to seek a maintenance. And he remained in
Speaker 4: the city some days, and all the people of Sodom
Speaker 4: caused a proclamation of their custom not to give this
Speaker 4: man a morsel of bread to eat until he dropped
Speaker 4: dead upon the earth, and they did. And Pulteith, the
Speaker 4: daughter of Lot, saw this man lying in the street,
Speaker 4: starved with hunger, and no one would give him anything
Speaker 4: to keep him alive. And he was just upon the
Speaker 4: point of death. And her soul was filled with pity
Speaker 4: on account of the man. And she fed him secretly
Speaker 4: with bread for many days, and the soul of this
Speaker 4: man was revived, for she went forth to fetch water.
Speaker 4: She would put the bread in the water pitcher, And
Speaker 4: when she came to the place where the poor man was,
Speaker 4: she took the bread from the pitcher and gave it
Speaker 4: to him to eat. So she did many days, and
Speaker 4: all the people of Sawdom Macgamore wondered how this man
Speaker 4: could bear starvation so many days, And they said to
Speaker 4: each other, this can only be that he eats and drinks,
Speaker 4: for no man can bear starvation so many days and
Speaker 4: live like this man, without even his countenance changing. And
Speaker 4: three men concealed themselves in a place where the poor
Speaker 4: man was stationed, to know what was brought to him
Speaker 4: to bread to eat. And Poulteeth, the daughter of Lot,
Speaker 4: went forth that day to fetch water and put bread
Speaker 4: into her pitcher of water. She went to draw water
Speaker 4: by the poor man's place, took out the bread from
Speaker 4: the picture, and gave it to the poor man and
Speaker 4: ate it. Then the three men saw paul Teeth did
Speaker 4: to the poor man, and they said to her, it
Speaker 4: is you who has supported him. Therefore he has not starved,
Speaker 4: nor changed in appearance, nor died like the rest. And
Speaker 4: they went out and seized her and the bread which
Speaker 4: was in the poor man's hand. They took pal Teeth
Speaker 4: and brought her before their judges, and they said to them,
Speaker 4: thus did she do, and it is she who supplied
Speaker 4: the poor man with bread? Therefore did he not die
Speaker 4: all this time? Now, therefore declare to us the punishment
Speaker 4: due to this woman for having transgressed our law. And
Speaker 4: the people of Sodom and Gomorah assembled and kindled the
Speaker 4: fire in the street of the city, and took the
Speaker 4: woman and cast her into the fire, and she was
Speaker 4: burned to ashes. This is the kind of radical evil
Speaker 4: that was taking place in that city, where it was
Speaker 4: not only absolute destruction to the sojourner, that anybody that
Speaker 4: was traveling through the city. And the father has this
Speaker 4: absolute heart for the sojourners and those that are that
Speaker 4: are travelers, and the people that are aliens in the land.
Speaker 4: He has an absolute love for those people. And this
Speaker 4: this culture had systematized a specific way of persecuting and extracting,
Speaker 4: eating up the people like bread. Like it talks about
Speaker 4: in the psalms Man, these people's teeth were like knives
Speaker 4: and they were devouring the poor and the sojourners from
Speaker 4: amongst them. And this literally the death of Daughters of
Speaker 4: Lot ends up being the final things. Later on in
Speaker 4: another one of Lott's daughters is literally burned. They cover
Speaker 4: her in honey and have bees sting her to death
Speaker 4: until she dies. I mean, horrible atrocities that were taking
Speaker 4: place in there, but it helps to elucidate why Abraham
Speaker 4: literally was like, I'm not going to get defiled by
Speaker 4: your blood, money, by your blood guilt, and by your
Speaker 4: He's not going to compromise himself. And ultimately, my contention
Speaker 4: is always that compromises the currency of the kingdom of darkness.
Speaker 4: It's what I saw behind the families that I was raised,
Speaker 4: and I saw inside these these occult crimes families, this compromise,
Speaker 4: this currency and that iniquity force man that the fuel
Speaker 4: that gets the seductive power from this blood guild. It
Speaker 4: demands continuity of bloodshed, It demands violence, demands abuse, it
Speaker 4: demands all of these things from you. And once you've
Speaker 4: engaged in that contract, it's incredibly impossible to break out
Speaker 4: of it, apart from a changing of kingdoms. Ultimately, yes, and.
Speaker 2: Think about it, guys. God does not get involved unless
Speaker 2: something is happening that is so wicked that he just
Speaker 2: can't handle it anymore. That's why he had to destroy Solomgamore,
Speaker 2: which we'll get into I think it's chapter nineteen, but
Speaker 2: we're just trying to show you how wicked this is.
Speaker 2: So wicked that the angels came right the two angels
Speaker 2: came to the city, and they came and they ate
Speaker 2: with Lot. Lot told them, you know, they wanted to
Speaker 2: sleep in the in the court. He said, don't see
Speaker 2: when the court come to my house. The men are
Speaker 2: so wicked here, they're gonna He already knew they're gonna
Speaker 2: try to sleep with these angels because these angels are
Speaker 2: probably beautiful. And they they made the men blind, all
Speaker 2: of them blind, and they were still they were trying
Speaker 2: to still hook up with these angels. You know, they
Speaker 2: were just filled with lust. I mean, it's just so
Speaker 2: much evil continuously. You don't see God doing that to
Speaker 2: any other city. He did it, He did do the flood.
Speaker 2: You know, that's you know, that's different. We already talked
Speaker 2: about that the reason why that happened. But it had
Speaker 2: to be such evil stuff. And I do when they
Speaker 2: says that the men were going after strange flesh, I
Speaker 2: don't believe that it was just you know, homosexual. I
Speaker 2: think it was demonic or trying to go after angels.
Speaker 2: You see the lust that they had for those angels
Speaker 2: so much so that they got blinded and they were
Speaker 2: still trying to get in the door and still trying
Speaker 2: to come at him. So I just think it's very
Speaker 2: important that we understand how evil that Solomingamorro was. And
Speaker 2: it's not just about homosexuality or orgies and all that
Speaker 2: stuff like Nathan was pointing out. It was other stuff
Speaker 2: of you know, like stinging people to death with bees
Speaker 2: or or burning people alive at the stake, doing stuff
Speaker 2: like that. It was just such evil that God had
Speaker 2: to step in and say it's done. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen enough, It's done. You know, so
Speaker 2: we got to understand that. I think it's vastly important. Man,
Speaker 2: A good, good point, man, bringing up the I don't mind, man,
Speaker 2: I just tell people Joshuer, jubileeze even even in the
Speaker 2: Book of Joshua says does it not so? And does
Speaker 2: it not say in the Book of Joshure at Joshua
Speaker 2: ten verse twelve, like it leads you to read that.
Speaker 2: So what we do know, whether it's scripture or not.
Speaker 2: We do know that that these you know, the Apostles
Speaker 2: and Joshua and people, they were reading books. They weren't stupid,
Speaker 2: you know, they were reading books as well. Even the
Speaker 2: book at Enoch is quoted by Jude, quoted by Jesus.
Speaker 2: We know that if Book of Enoch is not canon, hey,
Speaker 2: we do know that, because who knows if it is
Speaker 2: or not. But we do know that they were reading books,
Speaker 2: that's for sure if they're quoting it, right. So yeah,
Speaker 2: good point there, Nathan. I appreciate you bringing that up
Speaker 2: and and reading that. So all right, so will continue reading.
Speaker 2: We're on Genesis fifteen one. After these things, the word
Speaker 2: of the Lord came to Abraham in a vision, saying,
Speaker 2: do not be afraid Abraham. Abram, I am your shield,
Speaker 2: your exceedingly great reward. But Abram said, Lord God, what
Speaker 2: will you give me? Seeing I go childless, and the
Speaker 2: air of my house as elias are of Damascus. Then
Speaker 2: Abram said, look you gave me. You've given me no offspring,
Speaker 2: indeed born in my house, my heir. And behold, the
Speaker 2: word of the Lord came to him and said, this
Speaker 2: is this. One shall not be of your hair, but
Speaker 2: one who will come from your own body shall be
Speaker 2: your hair, your heir then brought. Then he brought him
Speaker 2: outside and said, look toward heaven and count the stars
Speaker 2: if you are able to number them. And he said
Speaker 2: to them, so shall your descendants be. One thing I
Speaker 2: want to point out really quick here is Do you
Speaker 2: guys notice that it says the word of the Lord
Speaker 2: came to Abram, like, who is the word of the
Speaker 2: Lord in yours his eyes? You know? I mean, I
Speaker 2: would say, you know, John one, Uh, lets us know
Speaker 2: that Jesus is the word? Right? What's your what's your
Speaker 2: opinion on this? Is this the Holy Spirit coming to him?
Speaker 2: Is this the Father God? Or is this Jesus in
Speaker 2: the Old Testament? What's your what's your opinion.
Speaker 4: I mean, my contention is is as as you said, John,
Speaker 4: want dude, let's read it for a second, because I
Speaker 4: think that establishes a pre eminence over my speculation. Is
Speaker 4: the word of you who have come to somebody. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. In the beginning was the Word,
Speaker 4: and the word was with Elohim, and the word was Luheim.
Speaker 4: He was in the beginning with Elohim. All came to
Speaker 4: be through him, and without him, not even one came
Speaker 4: to be. That came to be in him was life,
Speaker 4: and the life was the light of men. And the
Speaker 4: light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not
Speaker 4: overcome it. To me, the foundations, man, if I could
Speaker 4: in my mind put that reference of John one in
Speaker 4: the beginning of Genesis and understanding they are, they are
Speaker 4: giving you an under This is literally, I believe that literally.
Speaker 4: When the when the Father opened his mouth and began
Speaker 4: to build and create and orchestrate things, he used the
Speaker 4: word to accomplish those things. That's why I got excited
Speaker 4: about the study of Paleo Hebrew, because if these were
Speaker 4: the he chose this aleph Bet as his building blocks
Speaker 4: to do everything. It says all of creation is literally
Speaker 4: held together by the word. This is the physical building
Speaker 4: blocks that he uses to create things with. Then that
Speaker 4: thing is what holds all of creation together. And there
Speaker 4: would be uh, there would be a witness in his word.
Speaker 4: There would be a witness in all of creation through
Speaker 4: the Word, from beginning to end. And so as you
Speaker 4: get into the reading Hebrew for yourself too, you'll find
Speaker 4: in the actual manuscripts there's also this this thing that's
Speaker 4: not translated, which is called the Alephtv. And as you're
Speaker 4: going through, it'll just have Aleftov just in the middle
Speaker 4: of it, not left in a word. And I literally
Speaker 4: believe that's that's when Yashua was saying, I am the
Speaker 4: alephant the Tov, you know, the beginning and the end.
Speaker 4: He is saying, you're a Greek manuscript might render it
Speaker 4: the Alpha and the Omega. Right, he is literally laying
Speaker 4: claim to the fact that all throughout the entirety of
Speaker 4: the scripture, when you see this phrase, you know, this
Speaker 4: is an interjection of a reminder of who he is,
Speaker 4: that he is there. He is the architect, the outside
Speaker 4: originator of the story, and he is the Tav, the
Speaker 4: Covenant fulfilled. You know, he is the beginning in the end,
Speaker 4: and I believe that is when we see those moments
Speaker 4: where it's like the word of you whoa came to him,
Speaker 4: you know, and it's like or when Moses is sitting
Speaker 4: there and it says that the word of Yahoa came
Speaker 4: at the mercy seat, you know, like I believe that
Speaker 4: is Yeshua, that is that is our Messiah, who was
Speaker 4: the one, the actual ambassador interacting with mankind from the beginning.
Speaker 4: That it wasn't the most high face to face. It
Speaker 4: wasn't El Shadai as we're going to read about right here,
Speaker 4: like verse one where it says, you know, do not
Speaker 4: be afraid, Abraham, I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward,
Speaker 4: like he is El Shadai, like the ferocious, mighty detector
Speaker 4: pop a bear man that will rip things to pieces
Speaker 4: and also nourish and protect and provide like that all
Speaker 4: sustaining one. That's that's who we introduced himself to Abraham
Speaker 4: as like, that's who I'll be for you. You know,
Speaker 4: you be in this relationship with me, I'll be that
Speaker 4: for you. But I really do believe that's one of
Speaker 4: those things. And there's a book for those of y'all
Speaker 4: that there is this moment here where Abrahm he calls
Speaker 4: him outside and he's like, come and count the stars.
Speaker 4: And I don't believe this was just a come outside
Speaker 4: and do something impossible, you know. That's kind of how
Speaker 4: most people read it, where they're like, yeah, come outside
Speaker 4: and count the stars if you can. But the word
Speaker 4: there is actually sepher, which is ce p h e
Speaker 4: r s e p h e r sepher, and it
Speaker 4: literally doesn't It just means count is one way of
Speaker 4: describing it, but it also means connect the dots. And
Speaker 4: I literally believe what what happened here is he told
Speaker 4: Abram to come out here and witness the stars, connect
Speaker 4: the dots of the stars and the Gospel of the Stars.
Speaker 4: There's an incredible book, y'all. I highly recommend it is
Speaker 4: by E. W. Bolinger, which is called The Witness of
Speaker 4: the Stars, and it goes back and it contends with
Speaker 4: what is what is the original Mazaroth that is described here?
Speaker 4: People would say, what are you know? What is the
Speaker 4: constellations as we've received it today? And there is there
Speaker 4: is this incredible witness of the story of the scriptures.
Speaker 4: The Twelve Tribes is encoded in there the prophecies about
Speaker 4: the Messiah. All all of like literally from the beginning
Speaker 4: to the end, is all witnessed up in the stars
Speaker 4: in the heavens, and we have been we've inherited a
Speaker 4: very denigrated version of that through the astrological assignments and
Speaker 4: the version of it that we get today. But there
Speaker 4: is this beautiful witness that was preserved, and that it says,
Speaker 4: like in Romans eight, so that no man is without
Speaker 4: Romans one, that all all of creation is without excuse.
Speaker 4: Man is without excuse, because he put these witnesses there
Speaker 4: from time immemorial. But E. W. Bolinger wrestles with that,
Speaker 4: and my contention is it's Abram was the first person
Speaker 4: who has ever really that was fully revealed to him
Speaker 4: after the time of the flood. And so this is
Speaker 4: a fantastic resource for those of you all that have
Speaker 4: never considered that or want to understand. This is what
Speaker 4: I believe why it says, and this was subscribed to
Speaker 4: Abram as righteousness. He did something physically in that act
Speaker 4: that was part of the testimony that was indeed necessary
Speaker 4: to preserve this wonderful witness to his sons and their
Speaker 4: lineage from that time on going forward he did an
Speaker 4: act of obedience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's right. It's not just to count, it's
Speaker 2: to relate. It actually says count, recount or relate, like
Speaker 2: relate to the stars. That's exactly what you were saying.
Speaker 2: That's very interesting, bro, I never even looked into that.
Speaker 2: So relate to the stars, so like relate to the
Speaker 2: story basically, right, instead of just counting the numerous stars.
Speaker 2: And it actually says to tell in the King James.
Speaker 2: So that's really interesting, man, very interesting. In Oh, I
Speaker 2: was gonna go back. He was talking about Jesus. You know,
Speaker 2: if you go to Colossians one, p. Fifteen, it's something
Speaker 2: that you guys should be familiar with. This is speaking
Speaker 2: of Jesus. It says he is the image of the
Speaker 2: invisible God, the first born over all creation. For by
Speaker 2: him all things were created that are in heaven, that
Speaker 2: are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, dominions, principalities,
Speaker 2: are powers, all things were created through him and for him,
Speaker 2: And he is before all things. In him, all things consist.
Speaker 2: And he is the head of the body of the Church,
Speaker 2: who is the beginning, the first born from the dead,
Speaker 2: that in all things he may have pre eminence. Okay,
Speaker 2: So Jesus was there in the very beginning. Everything was
Speaker 2: created by him. It says, for by him all things
Speaker 2: were created, God the Father speaking things into existence, using
Speaker 2: the word to create everything that Nathan was going over
Speaker 2: is exactly. And then everything is being held together by
Speaker 2: what gravity? No, everything is being held together by Jesus.
Speaker 2: That's why everything is consistent. It's all being held together
Speaker 2: by him. So and we both don't believe in the
Speaker 2: current cosmology that everybody's trying to say. So the Bible
Speaker 2: says everything was held together by Jesus right now. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we need to understand that. But this is very interesting.
Speaker 2: They would just use the Lord here, but it says
Speaker 2: after these things, the Word of the Lord came to
Speaker 2: Abraham in a vision. So we don't. Everywhere else you're
Speaker 2: going to see Angel of the Lord, the Angel of
Speaker 2: the Lord, or you're going to see the Lord. But
Speaker 2: here it says the word of the Lord. And you know,
Speaker 2: if you go to the Aramaic Nathan, that's another thing.
Speaker 2: They take it said the word of the Lord. I
Speaker 2: think they took it out like they get said like
Speaker 2: seventy or eighty times in the Old Testament. They actually
Speaker 2: took it out. It used to in the Aramaic it
Speaker 2: was saying that it says the word of the Lord
Speaker 2: like seventy times, and they kind of took that out
Speaker 2: and just made it the Lord. So I don't know
Speaker 2: exactly where they took it out, but I'd have to
Speaker 2: look into that. But it's something that I heard Robski
Speaker 2: but talk about one time on his show with with a.
Speaker 2: I can't remember his name right now, it's slipping my mind,
Speaker 2: but zen Garcia, they were they were kind of going
Speaker 2: over the Book of Genesis and and and the Old
Speaker 2: Testament and and he said that in the Aramaic it
Speaker 2: was said the word of the Lord often, Like so
Speaker 2: you hear Jesus in the Old Testament often. And I
Speaker 2: don't know why they took that part out, because as
Speaker 2: soon as I saw the Word of the Lord when
Speaker 2: I was doing the study this week before we had
Speaker 2: this show, as soon as I saw that, I immediately
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, well there's a reason why it says that,
Speaker 2: you know. I just think it's it's fascinating so well.
Speaker 4: I think, and I think you're you're hitting onto something too.
Speaker 4: When it deals with with how scribes have an opportunity
Speaker 4: to interject their own doctrine or augment something to fit
Speaker 4: a narrative. You know, even even today we experienced the
Speaker 4: same thing. You and I are in a time where
Speaker 4: translations are coming out continually, where there's a wide variety
Speaker 4: of different translations, and we have to deal with translators' biases,
Speaker 4: and so if we're not armed with the basic understanding
Speaker 4: of Haye, like, certain fundamental things take place with translators
Speaker 4: that are bringing something from Hebrew to Greek to Latin
Speaker 4: to English, all these different variations of it. But there's
Speaker 4: just on one side of it, word for word translations,
Speaker 4: meaning when they sat down to do this translation, they
Speaker 4: took the text and did their utmost to try to
Speaker 4: preserve the actual language word for word, from that from
Speaker 4: the original manuscripts to what we have today in English.
Speaker 4: Then there's thought for thought translations, So things like the EESV,
Speaker 4: the ISR, you know, the KJV, those are word for
Speaker 4: word translations. Whereas when you get into things that are
Speaker 4: thought for thought translations, they're stepping down out of that
Speaker 4: and they're going towards concept based communication, and there's a
Speaker 4: degradation towards the heart of a text. But this would
Speaker 4: be things like the NLT, the NIV and some of
Speaker 4: the more like the Message Bible, all of these that
Speaker 4: are literally more interjection of ideas well. Unfortunately, this is
Speaker 4: a common theme that's been taking place for a long time.
Speaker 4: And even like my heart gets all zealous and freaked
Speaker 4: out because like I was young when I first started
Speaker 4: like actually reading the Bible for myself, and when I
Speaker 4: would come across these mentions of these other books, like
Speaker 4: the Book of the Wars of Isral, I'm like what
Speaker 4: there's Like, where's that book? Like I want to read
Speaker 4: that book real bad, you know, Like I have this
Speaker 4: freak show level of like I want to read the tactics,
Speaker 4: like I wanted to know. I wanted to know how
Speaker 4: Joshua was slaughtering giants like details. I'm like, give me
Speaker 4: the deeds, bro, I need to know this stuff. And
Speaker 4: now if you bump into these other ones that are
Speaker 4: like the Book of Gad, you know, the Book of Nathan,
Speaker 4: and I'm like where are all these? You know, like
Speaker 4: how is it? It says, YEAHO watches over his word
Speaker 4: day and nine to see it come to pass, Like
Speaker 4: he's watched over this stuff he's preserved it. Where are
Speaker 4: these And then you start to like, as I got older,
Speaker 4: I learned how to find out where are these texts,
Speaker 4: where are these manuscripts? And turns out they're there. People
Speaker 4: do have them, they have been preserved. But then there's
Speaker 4: some that have just been absolutely relegated towards someone's collection
Speaker 4: and they refuse to let them out. The book. But
Speaker 4: Nathan is an example of this this. We do have
Speaker 4: the Hebrew manuscript of the Book of Nathan, but the
Speaker 4: individuals that own it have refused to release it. They've
Speaker 4: only instead released excerpts from it. And of the few
Speaker 4: excerpts they've released of it, what we find are these
Speaker 4: very interesting prophecies about the Messiah, specifically that about him
Speaker 4: being in Bethlehem as well as being born of a virgin,
Speaker 4: and that David has given specific instructions from Nathan to
Speaker 4: watch over them because they will be persecuted and hunted
Speaker 4: and he needs to provide protection for them during that time.
Speaker 2: Like, there's very.
Speaker 4: Specific details in some of these books that are why,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, why they took out a lot of
Speaker 4: the books of the Apocrypha. The books of the Apocrypha
Speaker 4: that the sixteen eleven might have preserved like sarrak Or
Speaker 4: Ecclesiasticus and Baruk, and like there's these amazing books that
Speaker 4: are in there, the Wisdom of Solomon that had been preserved,
Speaker 4: and yet they were taken out. First, Enoch being one
Speaker 4: of those that's like that where you get super intense
Speaker 4: prophecies about the Messiah that are undeniably connecting the dots
Speaker 4: towards who he would be and his identity fulfilled in
Speaker 4: Yeshue of Nazareth. And you also see an extreme detailed
Speaker 4: description of how the spiritual hierarchy plays out and interjects
Speaker 4: itself into mankind. And it would give you some serious
Speaker 4: weapons for engaging the Kingdom of Darkness with some of
Speaker 4: the mechanics that you'd need to wage that war. And
Speaker 4: it's very detail oriented. If you take those stuff out,
Speaker 4: you can kind of well, you can move the agenda
Speaker 4: of how to keep people ignorant of the schemes of
Speaker 4: the devil more readily.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they do not. Obviously, the Jewish do not
Speaker 2: want it to point to Jesus, so they want to
Speaker 2: take that out. The Catholic Church is thinking, I don't
Speaker 2: really want to be like on the Pew trying to
Speaker 2: explain giants and you know, thirty foot giants because I
Speaker 2: can't compromise because science is trying to tell us that
Speaker 2: they're not around. Don't want to fight that battle. So
Speaker 2: let's take the book. I'm just I just think that
Speaker 2: there's a few reasons there, and I think you hit
Speaker 2: on one. It does describe and you can connect it
Speaker 2: to Jesus. They don't want that to happen for sure.
Speaker 2: And then there's things in the book Enoch, like you said, man,
Speaker 2: they can help you fight the spiritual battle. More so,
Speaker 2: it kind of just like the Ethiopian Bible. They have it.
Speaker 2: They have some of these books that Nathan is talking about.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so things they do not want it to
Speaker 2: connect the Massiah to the Messiah to Jesus. They want
Speaker 2: to they want to have their own interpretation of the Messiahs.
Speaker 2: So once it starts connecting, they don't want to do it.
Speaker 2: Even in Isaiah fifty three, they don't even read it.
Speaker 2: They don't read that part, you know, because it connects
Speaker 2: to Jesus so much and it shows what they did
Speaker 2: to him and everything. So I think it's fascinating. So
Speaker 2: we'll go back to the word here, because I can.
Speaker 2: We can talk about this stuff all day, you know.
Speaker 2: So it says this is a fifth this is gonna
Speaker 2: be Genesis fifteen six. We're picking up. And he believed
Speaker 2: the Lord, and he counted, he had counted to him
Speaker 2: for righteousness. Then he said to him, I am the
Speaker 2: Lord who brought you out of er or the Shaldeons
Speaker 2: to give you this land to inherit it. And he said,
Speaker 2: Lord God, how shall I know what I will inherit
Speaker 2: that I will inherit it. And he said to him,
Speaker 2: bring me a three year old heifer, a three year
Speaker 2: old female goat, a three year old ram, a turtle, dove,
Speaker 2: and a young pigeon. Then he brought all these to
Speaker 2: him and cut them in two down the middle, place
Speaker 2: them each piece opposite the other. And he did not
Speaker 2: cut the birds into And when the vultures came down
Speaker 2: on the carcasses, Abraham drove or Abram drove them away.
Speaker 2: So we have a we have it. It's set up.
Speaker 2: So so the Lord is telling him, you know, he's
Speaker 2: given them, he's given them instructions on this sacrifice. Right,
Speaker 2: So I think I think that's pretty interesting there. And
Speaker 2: as you see, he's obedient. He's not like Cain. You know,
Speaker 2: Cain was Cain had his own idea, you know. So
Speaker 2: what he's doing, he's giving him specific instructions, and Abraham
Speaker 2: is following him. You know. He's he's hearing from the
Speaker 2: word of the Lord, and he's he's following the instructions
Speaker 2: right to a t, which I think is vastly important.
Speaker 2: It's obedience, you know. So, and anything you picked up
Speaker 2: here at all on that little part.
Speaker 4: That I read, there's a there's another reference here in
Speaker 4: uh when you see these vultures coming down on the
Speaker 4: carcasses and Abram driving them away. You'll see this this
Speaker 4: often with the parable of the sewer too, where it's
Speaker 4: like these birds that'll come down and try to devour.
Speaker 4: More often than not, these unclean birds like vultures or
Speaker 4: ravens that are coming down to attack and steal and
Speaker 4: take things away, they're almost always synonymously linked with these
Speaker 4: agents of the devil, you know. And Abraham, if he's
Speaker 4: fulfilling this role as a shepherd too in that regard
Speaker 4: where he's protecting and providing overwatch on these things too.
Speaker 4: And so there's another another daughter of the sons of
Speaker 4: Saul basically was married into it. After they killed Saul
Speaker 4: and his zealousness killed the Gibbeonites and David. The curse
Speaker 4: of that shows up in the reign of David, and
Speaker 4: there's famine in the land for three and a half
Speaker 4: years and they don't know what the heck's going on.
Speaker 4: David finds out is because they killed the Gibbeonites, who
Speaker 4: they had a covenant a piece from the days of Joshua,
Speaker 4: and so they hang seven of the sons of Saul
Speaker 4: up on and kill them. Well, then one of those,
Speaker 4: the wives of one of those men, she literally overwatches
Speaker 4: those and keeps and drives away the vultures and from
Speaker 4: devouring the carcasses. So you'll see her be honored and
Speaker 4: established because of that act too. And there's this incredibly
Speaker 4: pertinent thing about driving these unclean things away from it.
Speaker 4: But you'll see the Father loves this man when people
Speaker 4: have that kind of that hunger for it.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, all right. So we're on Genesis fifteen twelve. Now,
Speaker 2: when the sun was going down actually means going away
Speaker 2: from you if you click on it, A deep sleep
Speaker 2: fell upon Abram and behold horror and great darkness fell
Speaker 2: upon him, and he said to Abram, No, certainly, that
Speaker 2: your descendants will be strangers in a land that is
Speaker 2: not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict
Speaker 2: them four hundred years. And also the nation whom they serve,
Speaker 2: I will judge. Afterward they shall come out with great possessions.
Speaker 2: Now as far as as far Now as for you,
Speaker 2: you shall go to your father's in peace. You shall
Speaker 2: be buried at a good old age. But in the
Speaker 2: fourth generation they shall return here. For the iniquity of
Speaker 2: the Amorites is yet is not yet complete. So this
Speaker 2: is giving him a prophecy here, right, And this is
Speaker 2: a very important prophecy. Right, So this is this is
Speaker 2: talking about his descendants will end up in in if'
Speaker 2: I'm mistaken, this is talking about his descents are going
Speaker 2: to end up in Egypt, right, Nathan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that they're gonna that place of bondage, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And this is it's and that the prophecy is more
Speaker 4: so from the time of him giving this word to
Speaker 4: the time of you who actually bringing them out in Passover.
Speaker 4: That's going to be the four hundred years. It's not
Speaker 4: that the during the entirety of that they weren't slaves
Speaker 4: in Egypt for the entirety of that four hundred years.
Speaker 4: It's going to be from this moment until that time.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, So all right, let's keep going. And he's
Speaker 2: letting him know that he shall be buried at a
Speaker 2: good old age. So he's given him that. So that's
Speaker 2: imagine talking to the Lord. Okay, God is talking to you.
Speaker 2: You know, first of all, we're so blessed to be
Speaker 2: able to hear exactly how God speaks to you know,
Speaker 2: his prophets and speaks to his people. We're seeing it here.
Speaker 2: And if you were Abraham, you'd be kind of excited, like,
Speaker 2: all right, cool, I'm gonna have I'm gonna have a child,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have the heir, I'm gonna have all these descendants.
Speaker 2: It's going to be many he already, like you said,
Speaker 2: counted the stars or counted the stars or and it's
Speaker 2: just it's really interesting here, so we'll continue. So, and
Speaker 2: did you have something you wanted to read? Real quick?
Speaker 4: Bro, there's this book which is great for people that
Speaker 4: come from this crazy freaktion.
Speaker 2: So he's got so many books. I love it. Let's go, baby,
Speaker 2: let's go, bro.
Speaker 4: This is called what did what did Jesus mean the
Speaker 4: Gospel to every creature? Good news for Nephelum, transhumans, enhanced humans,
Speaker 4: and anyone else who is the result of genetic experimentation.
Speaker 4: This is uh, it's hard to find. I've been working
Speaker 4: on putting out an audio of this right now on
Speaker 4: my YouTube channel for those of you that want. But
Speaker 4: literally the verse that you get in the Book of
Speaker 4: Mark where the commission for the believers of Messiah, the
Speaker 4: Great Commission, the Commander gives us a mission and he says,
Speaker 4: go preach. To go therefore into all the nations, all
Speaker 4: the world, the cosmos, and preach the Gospel to every creature.
Speaker 4: And so there's a there's a common contention that people
Speaker 4: have basically that the reason everybody gets wiped out in
Speaker 4: the days of the Canaan and why they're sent in
Speaker 4: there is to purge any Nephelin bloodlines that were left.
Speaker 4: But right here you get a very specific reason why
Speaker 4: the I mean, he could have started invading the land
Speaker 4: with Abraham. He didn't need to wait till Moses and
Speaker 4: Joshua all this time. He could have started right then.
Speaker 4: But he gives a very specific reason as to why,
Speaker 4: and when that timeline is going to take place. Why
Speaker 4: He's like, now we're going to wait four hundred years
Speaker 4: before we have you guys go in there and clean
Speaker 4: this place up. And he specifically says, because the iniquity
Speaker 4: of the Amorites is not yet full. And when he's
Speaker 4: tying in here, it's not just your blood, it's not
Speaker 4: just it's not just extermination because of what's in their blood.
Speaker 4: It's their choices. It's the fundamental reality is that every
Speaker 4: one of us is responsible for what we do, what
Speaker 4: we do with our with our will, with our actions,
Speaker 4: and anyways, he's got on page eighty seven, he said,
Speaker 4: why were the seven Canaanite tribes judged? I watched a
Speaker 4: recorded interview on the internet during the guests refer to
Speaker 4: the tribes in the Promised Land as being Nepheline, Nephelum tribes,
Speaker 4: the nephylin Anachem, the Refie, the Canaanite, the Parasites, all
Speaker 4: these were Nephlam tribes. The idea that the tribes were
Speaker 4: Nefhlum is a popular belief, and certainly one which I
Speaker 4: once held. The host and the guests both later affirmed
Speaker 4: that the reason God's judgment on those tribes was because
Speaker 4: they were nefhlum. I used to say the same. The
Speaker 4: problem was saying that I knew it was not actually
Speaker 4: stated in the scriptures. It was my assumption drawn from
Speaker 4: the scripture. But what scripture does say? Do not think
Speaker 4: in your heart after Yahoe your Eluheim has cast them
Speaker 4: out before you, saying, because of my righteousness, Yahoa has
Speaker 4: brought me in to possess the land. But it is
Speaker 4: because of the wickedness of these nations that Yahua is
Speaker 4: driving them out from before you. It is not because
Speaker 4: of your righteousness or the uprightness of your heart that
Speaker 4: you go in to possess their land, but because of
Speaker 4: the wickedness of these nations that Yahoe or Aluheim drives
Speaker 4: them out from before you, that he may fulfill the
Speaker 4: word which yahuist swore to your authors, to Abraham and
Speaker 4: Isaac and Jacob. From Deuteronomy nine four through five, the
Speaker 4: only reason given in scripture while the tribes and the
Speaker 4: promised land were judged was because of their wickedness. These days,
Speaker 4: such a concept may seem to make God harsh. The
Speaker 4: reality was the Canaanites were so wicked they practice the
Speaker 4: sacrifice of their own children. I used to say that
Speaker 4: the wickedness was extreme because they were Nefelim, but that's
Speaker 4: not what scripture says. The reason given for God's judgment
Speaker 4: of the tribes was their wickedness. It's repeated and consistent.
Speaker 4: Any other reason is an interpretation of scripture conclusion too consistently,
Speaker 4: the Bible connects judgment with wickedness. It does not connect
Speaker 4: judgment with genetic makeup. Arguments which connect judgment with genetic
Speaker 4: makeup are not supported when the examples of God's judgment
Speaker 4: are taken into contact context. I say this because we
Speaker 4: are living in a time where this is These types
Speaker 4: of practices have literally been normalized in our country. Says
Speaker 4: such a degree that when nations other nations, foreign nations
Speaker 4: want money from our country, they want foreign aid, they
Speaker 4: want financial support, they have to agree to take on
Speaker 4: the policies of abortive practices, of sacrificing your own children,
Speaker 4: and the LGBTQ agendas. These are things that are literally
Speaker 4: prerequisites for them to take on our money. This is
Speaker 4: one of the fruits of our nation's exports that we have.
Speaker 4: We're living in a land where iniquity, the blood of
Speaker 4: the innocence is running into our drains, is running into
Speaker 4: our rivers, and this blood cries out perpetually to such
Speaker 4: an extent that we're going to reach a time where
Speaker 4: the threshold of this blood guilt in the earth reaches
Speaker 4: such a stage that the earth vomits the blood out
Speaker 4: of it. It literally is going to puke up all
Speaker 4: of this innocent blood, and that innocent blood will demand,
Speaker 4: will require that judgment retro to be justice to be
Speaker 4: executed on it. So this is a really critical prophecy
Speaker 4: of what's going to take place about the Father's faithfulness
Speaker 4: to fulfill his word to Abraham, also his faithfulness to
Speaker 4: judge the wicked and hold them accountable. And later on
Speaker 4: in the scriptures when you get the First Kings or
Speaker 4: Second King seventeen, where there's literally the judgment of Israel,
Speaker 4: it says what they were doing there was worse than
Speaker 4: what the Amorits and the people before them were doing.
Speaker 4: They were doing way greater sorceries and divinations and occult
Speaker 4: practices than all of the Amorits and the people that
Speaker 4: were before them. Therefore, the Father even did the same
Speaker 4: horrific atrocities against his own people. So these are those
Speaker 4: things that should give us pause and warning about why
Speaker 4: we need to work out our salvation daily with the Father.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Amen, bro and the Amorites
Speaker 2: are almost to nine. The Amorites were described as being
Speaker 2: height of the cedars and strong as oak. So they
Speaker 2: were definitely, like Nathan was saying, nepheline Og the king
Speaker 2: of Bashan. That's somebody that if you ever studied the Nephiline,
Speaker 2: I forgot to bring that up on my episode. But
Speaker 2: Og was a giant king. He was an Amorite. He
Speaker 2: ruled over the land of Raphaim. His bed was said
Speaker 2: to be nine cubits long and four cubits wide, and
Speaker 2: not royal cubits. It would be nine by thirteen. If
Speaker 2: he did royal cubits, it's like around like fifteen feet
Speaker 2: his bed. So he was a giant, you know. So
Speaker 2: we got to understand. The am Rights were also pre
Speaker 2: Israelie pagan nation who occupied the land east of west
Speaker 2: of Jordan. There were descendants of Noah's grandson Canaan. That's
Speaker 2: why I told you guys about some people speculate that
Speaker 2: maybe Ham's wife was the one that maybe had a
Speaker 2: little nepheline DNA Stiller, and maybe that's why the giants
Speaker 2: came after the flood. That's all speculation, not saying it's true,
Speaker 2: but something was going on because Ham and his wife
Speaker 2: ended up having you know, Canan, the land of Canaan.
Speaker 2: That's what descendants were and that's where most of the
Speaker 2: giant tribes were from, and including the am Rights. So
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting where it says for the iniquity
Speaker 2: of the am Rights is yet is not yet complete iniquity. Well, look,
Speaker 2: I looked up that word. It's like perversity, depravity, punishment,
Speaker 2: you know that that the depravitat perversity. Who knows, man,
Speaker 2: what was going on with that, you know, the perverse
Speaker 2: part of it. But yeah, so I think that's very
Speaker 2: interesting and I'm glad that you brought that up there.
Speaker 2: There are that I really haven't. That's why it's really
Speaker 2: good to go through the Bible all the way through, bro,
Speaker 2: because you start seeing these little these little things and
Speaker 2: like start connecting the dots and be like, wow, man,
Speaker 2: that's really interesting, dude, interesting stuff. Thank you for That's
Speaker 2: why I'm glad I have you here, bro, because I
Speaker 2: could have gone over some of the stuff. The Amorites.
Speaker 2: I know that they're giants, but I'm like, you're bringing
Speaker 2: things out like that that are that are gems that
Speaker 2: people need to know. I like it, man, So anything else,
Speaker 2: So you're going to continue?
Speaker 4: No, keep cruising, bro, let's go, all right.
Speaker 2: So Genesis fifteen seventeen, And it came to pass when
Speaker 2: the sun went down or went away from and it
Speaker 2: was dark that behold there appeared a smoking a smoking oven,
Speaker 2: and burning torts that passed between these those pieces. On
Speaker 2: the same day, the Lord made a covenant with Abraham,
Speaker 2: saying to your descend I was I have given the
Speaker 2: land from the River of Egypt to the Great River,
Speaker 2: the River euphraighters Radies, the Kenites, the Kenezites, the Catamanites,
Speaker 2: the Hittites, the Perseyites, the raphaim the Amorites, the Canaanites,
Speaker 2: the Girgashites, and the w Sites. Wow, bro, those are
Speaker 2: that's crazy. To your descendants, I have given this land,
Speaker 2: the land from them. Okay, I see, so it's taken
Speaker 2: from them. I was wondering because I was like, man,
Speaker 2: all right, so we'll get to you reading. Let's go.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go. Genesis sixteen. This is a very interesting
Speaker 2: part of the story as well. Uh, this is gonna
Speaker 2: be Hagar and Ishmael. This is this is this is
Speaker 2: like what happens when people get impatient and they're not
Speaker 2: waiting on the Lord. This is something we need to do.
Speaker 2: One thing we need to understand is when God says something,
Speaker 2: Oh God, he cannot lie. Let me go back. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: God cannot lie. You know. It says to the scriptures
Speaker 2: that it's impossible for God to lie. Titus one two
Speaker 2: says that God cannot lie. So God is not going
Speaker 2: to lie. So when he tells you that you're going
Speaker 2: to have an heir, and no matter how old your
Speaker 2: wife is, know that you're going to have an air
Speaker 2: you know. So all right, So we'll continue reading Genesis
Speaker 2: sixteen to one. Now Sarai, Abram's wife had borne him
Speaker 2: no children, and she had an Egyptian maid servant whose
Speaker 2: name was Hagar. So Sarai said to Abram, see, now
Speaker 2: the Lord has restrained me from bearing children. Please go
Speaker 2: into my maid. Perhaps I shall obtain children by her.
Speaker 2: And Abram heeded the voice of Sarai. Then Sarah, Abram's
Speaker 2: wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian and gave her
Speaker 2: to her husband, Abram, to be his wife. After Abram
Speaker 2: had had well ten years in the land of Canaan.
Speaker 2: So we went to Hagar and she conceived, and when
Speaker 2: she saw that she had conceived, her mistress became despised
Speaker 2: in her eyes. Okay, so we have that. Well, stop
Speaker 2: there real questions. So what are you see in here, bro.
Speaker 4: Oh Man, a giant screaming warning about the dangers of
Speaker 4: like you said, one thing, circumventing the ordained promises the
Speaker 4: most high and also allowing the woman to lead in
Speaker 4: this capacity of a role when it comes to what
Speaker 4: is the fundamental roles of leadership within a household and
Speaker 4: within a covenant of a marriage too. But Abraham hearkened
Speaker 4: to the voice of his wife on something that was
Speaker 4: definitely a transgression towards the ideal direction of what the
Speaker 4: father gave Adam and Eve, you know, which was monogamy,
Speaker 4: you know. And anything that supersedes that causes toxic breakouts.
Speaker 4: Inevitably in every circumstance we ever find polygyny taking place,
Speaker 4: which is taking other wives in that regard, we find
Speaker 4: conflicts and problems as the fruit of it. From this
Speaker 4: point on when it comes to Isaac thankfully being a
Speaker 4: patriarch here amongst them that did not follow this practice,
Speaker 4: whereas Acob unfortunately carried this on, and we see the
Speaker 4: fruitfulness of that with the infighting and the constant degradation
Speaker 4: of ideals by continuing to go after another wife. You know,
Speaker 4: these are brutal realities of this consequence of it. But
Speaker 4: one of these most important passages in here too is
Speaker 4: how the Father still yet even amidst these circumstances, brings
Speaker 4: about the fulfillment of this promise. Because even though Ishmael
Speaker 4: is not supposed to be the son of the Covenant,
Speaker 4: in this regard, Ishmael is still blessed and established twelve
Speaker 4: princes are going to come from him. There's an entire
Speaker 4: other blessing that was irrevocable, And this is one of
Speaker 4: the important things to never lose sight of, is the
Speaker 4: blessings that the Father can put on someone's life can
Speaker 4: be irrevocable, whether or not they maintain their righteous path.
Speaker 4: In that regard, they can use the innate talents that
Speaker 4: the Father has given in entrusted to them for great
Speaker 4: good and the saving of many lives, or they can
Speaker 4: use it for great evil and the domineering and tyrannical
Speaker 4: oversight of many lives as well. So this this takes
Speaker 4: place regardless, and you'll the inclination of what Ishmael is
Speaker 4: and what's in his heart and what he's inclined towards.
Speaker 4: And you'll see the contrast between that and his son
Speaker 4: Isaac and that, and it's a this is a very
Speaker 4: critical time to zoom in, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And and God is so graceful. He doesn't leave
Speaker 2: Hagar just he doesn't just say all right, you know,
Speaker 2: look what happened here. Her mistress became this Okay, she
Speaker 2: became despised in her like like she's obviously you could
Speaker 2: say like a jealousy. But he was so you were
Speaker 2: so correct, bro. Where it says Abraham heeded the voice
Speaker 2: of Sarai, like that means he obeyed the voice of
Speaker 2: Sarai instead of obeying the voice of the Lord. You know,
Speaker 2: he allowed her to lead. And he basically was you know,
Speaker 2: they were like in there. He was like ninety years old,
Speaker 2: you know, so he's getting he was getting up there
Speaker 2: in age, and he was thinking that maybe she's thinking
Speaker 2: that her she's not gonna be able to have children
Speaker 2: even though the Lord promised her. She was probably telling
Speaker 2: Abraham this is just speculation. Hey, listen, he might have
Speaker 2: told you that, but it's probably not through me. Her
Speaker 2: faith was just going down as she got older and
Speaker 2: older and older about having children, and Abraham was probably
Speaker 2: hanging in there as long as he could. I know
Speaker 2: that he's a faithful man. He's in the hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: so a faith right in a hall of fame, hall
Speaker 2: of faith, So he's probably a faithful man. And he's like,
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen, Sarai, It's gonna happen. And what I
Speaker 2: see here is I see Sarah just kind of losing
Speaker 2: faith as she gets older and older, and maybe she's thinking, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe you're supposed to be with somebody else rather than me.
Speaker 2: And when she made that decision that she didn't go
Speaker 2: to God, she made that decision, she started despising this woman.
Speaker 2: And this woman was a servant, okay, when Jesus came,
Speaker 2: he was a servant, right. This lady was just a
Speaker 2: servant to them, And all of a sudden she allowed
Speaker 2: him to lay with this woman, not saying that Abraham.
Speaker 2: Abraham should have not heeded the woman like, like you said, Nathan,
Speaker 2: don't allow her to lead. Let God lead. This is
Speaker 2: exactly what happens when you take your eyes off of
Speaker 2: the Lord. You start looking away and you're not allowing
Speaker 2: God to lead. And what do you do. You fall
Speaker 2: into sin, and you fall into sin in a way
Speaker 2: where your wife. Now, when your wife looks at you,
Speaker 2: she's gonna see Hagar and that despising thing that he
Speaker 2: has for you know, even though she gave him permission.
Speaker 2: This causes a big giant block between you and your wife.
Speaker 2: And that's what I see happening here. The way they
Speaker 2: describe this is it's like if you read through it,
Speaker 2: you can kind of see exactly what Nathan was talking about.
Speaker 2: He allowed her to lead, and you you know, just
Speaker 2: like when Peter was walking on water, like Lord, can
Speaker 2: I come? Peter come, He's looking at the Lord and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden he started looking at the
Speaker 2: water like what am I doing? Boo falls in the
Speaker 2: water and then the Lord picked him up obviously out
Speaker 2: of the water. But as soon as you lose focus
Speaker 2: on the Lord, that's what happens. Man. And not saying
Speaker 2: that we don't do that, but this is what I'm
Speaker 2: seeing here and like you said, bro, vastly important right here. Man,
Speaker 2: all right, so we'll continue. So and then Sarai said
Speaker 2: to Abraham, might wrong be upon you? I gave my
Speaker 2: maid into your embrace. And when and when she saw
Speaker 2: that she had conceived, I became despising her eyes. The
Speaker 2: Lord judge between you and me. So Abraham said to Surai, indeed,
Speaker 2: your maid is in your hand. Do as do to
Speaker 2: her as you please. And when Sarai dealt harshly with her,
Speaker 2: she fled from her presence. But here we go, man,
Speaker 2: this is the part right here. So first of all,
Speaker 2: the woman is a servant, so we got to understand
Speaker 2: she was told to do this. And I don't think
Speaker 2: she was trying to flirt with Abraham or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I think it was just really I think that this
Speaker 2: exact moment of what happened was to conceive the child.
Speaker 2: I think they did agree upon this and it was
Speaker 2: made for that. And when she I just think that
Speaker 2: the jealousy kind of came. Satan kind of got into
Speaker 2: into Saraide like the jealousy came. And and and also
Speaker 2: they didn't they didn't follow the Lord. So now we
Speaker 2: have something that's another important thing for us to dig into.
Speaker 2: It says now the the Angel of the Lord, Okay,
Speaker 2: found her by a spring of water in the wilderness,
Speaker 2: by the spring on the way to sure and he said, Hagar,
Speaker 2: Sarah's maid, where have you come from and where are
Speaker 2: you going? Obviously he already knows the answer. This is
Speaker 2: a rhetorical question, but he's just wanting to start conversation
Speaker 2: with her, probably because you can imagine this woman's probably crying,
Speaker 2: feeling bad, she you know, feeling like terrible. And it
Speaker 2: says she said, I am fleeing from the presence of
Speaker 2: my missus Sarah. The Angel the Lord said to her,
Speaker 2: return to your mistress, submit yourself under her hand. Then
Speaker 2: the Angel of the Lord said to her, I will
Speaker 2: multiply your descendants exceedingly, so that they shall not be
Speaker 2: counted from multitude. And the Angel of the Lord said
Speaker 2: to her, behold you, behold you are with child. Hold on,
Speaker 2: real quick, let me go down. Sorry. Behold you are
Speaker 2: with child, and you shall bear a son, and you
Speaker 2: shall call his name Ishmael. Because the Lord has heard
Speaker 2: your affliction, he's he shall be a wild man. His
Speaker 2: hand shall be against every man and every man's hand
Speaker 2: against him, and he shall dwell in the presence of
Speaker 2: his brethren. Okay, so what what is your what is
Speaker 2: your thoughts on the Angel of the Lord? And guys,
Speaker 2: we're not talking about angel. That word can be messenger. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's what that word means. He means messenger. It doesn't
Speaker 2: mean physical cherrybroom angel or angel. That could mean a
Speaker 2: messenger of the Lord. Right, that's another you know, Messenger
Speaker 2: is another way of saying the word of the Lord. Right,
Speaker 2: So what's your thoughts on the Angel of the Lord, Nathan.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've dug into this before. Man.
Speaker 4: One of my well, one of the big ones too.
Speaker 4: That always got me excited about it too was the
Speaker 4: specificity of who who he was and represented. Like another
Speaker 4: time in Joshua, when the Captain of the Heavenly Host
Speaker 4: shows up outside of the walls of Jericho before they
Speaker 4: go on this i mean, full on invasion of the nation,
Speaker 4: you get a specific reference to the Captain of the
Speaker 4: Heavenly Host, the captain of the armies of the most High,
Speaker 4: you know, like this is the commander of commanders up there,
Speaker 4: and he is down here to give Joshua very specific instructions,
Speaker 4: and it says, Joshua takes his feet, sandals off his feet.
Speaker 4: He gives him the same language of descriptions of like, listen,
Speaker 4: you're standing before the ground that you're standing on his
Speaker 4: set apart ground, holy ground, and he tells him to
Speaker 4: take off the sandals, just like he said to Moses,
Speaker 4: you know, and this is a reaffirmation of him being
Speaker 4: established as the leader over the people, but also as
Speaker 4: the commander of the armies. So now you have the
Speaker 4: direct commander of the heavenly armies meeting with the direct
Speaker 4: commander of the armies of the heavenly of the of
Speaker 4: the hosts of Israel. And it's this beautiful conglomeration of
Speaker 4: those two. And so when I see the Angel of Ya,
Speaker 4: who has showing up specifically like this is also the
Speaker 4: same reference of the one who kills one hundred and
Speaker 4: eighty five thousand Assyrians in a night, you know, when
Speaker 4: Hezekai and all the people are crying out for deliverance,
Speaker 4: you know, he shows up and in a single night
Speaker 4: smites one hundred and eighty five thousand of them. This
Speaker 4: is a supernatural, powerful force that's rippen through those things.
Speaker 4: And I believe this is like you and I were
Speaker 4: talking about earlier, some of these references to when Yeshua
Speaker 4: would show up, you know, and specifically engage with the
Speaker 4: people that are on the ground, you know, in this regard.
Speaker 4: So this is also that the first time you see
Speaker 4: springs of water showing up. And she later references Yahoa
Speaker 4: as the eld roy the one who sees me and
Speaker 4: one of those when she's this is later on a
Speaker 4: little bit in the story, but this is one of
Speaker 4: the most important moments that we understand the sovereignty, the
Speaker 4: omniscience of the most tie that he has. He has
Speaker 4: vision and concern and care for even the least of these,
Speaker 4: you know. In some passages, it's like this is the
Speaker 4: one who's absolutely there and ever present. But then we
Speaker 4: have his ambassador that will show up and interact and
Speaker 4: engage with the people in a more physical form.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's really interesting. This says. Then the
Speaker 2: angel alert said to her, I will multiply your descendants
Speaker 2: exceedingly so that they shall not be counted for multitude.
Speaker 2: It doesn't say that the Lord will, or that God will,
Speaker 2: or Father God will. It says that I will multiply
Speaker 2: your descendants exceedingly. So the Angel of the Lord, the
Speaker 2: messenger of the Lord, the Word of the Lord. This
Speaker 2: could be, and some people argue that this is Jesus
Speaker 2: in the Old Testament. What's your thoughts on that, bro.
Speaker 4: Bro There was two other references. I totally overskipped it
Speaker 4: when I jumped up to Joshua. There's judges in judges
Speaker 4: when Gideon is at the wine press, you know, and
Speaker 4: the Angel of you who shows up to him when
Speaker 4: he's in the wine press and he calls him you Gibol, right,
Speaker 4: which is like a mighty man of valor, you brave warrior,
Speaker 4: you super powerfully awesome man. And he's like, I'm the
Speaker 4: least of all the tribes, right, He like downplays who
Speaker 4: he is and he's like the Word of you who
Speaker 4: just comes on him in power. He also another time
Speaker 4: shows up before he's the one who will show up
Speaker 4: and proclaim specific prophecies in serious and powerful ways too.
Speaker 4: That you'll see he does that for Gideon there when
Speaker 4: he says how he's going to establish him as a
Speaker 4: leader of Israel and raise him up to deliver the
Speaker 4: nation of Israe through his hand. But then also he
Speaker 4: does the same thing to Samson's mom Shimshumk's mom. He
Speaker 4: shows up and does the same thing, and literally as
Speaker 4: they're there bringing him an offering, he ascends through the
Speaker 4: fire of the offering as well, and you'll see him
Speaker 4: receiving offerings in alms in that regard to whereas other
Speaker 4: times messengers they will rebuke anyone who bows down and
Speaker 4: tries to worship them. They'll tell them, worship Yahoa. Don't
Speaker 4: worship me physically, you know. But this Angel of Yahoa,
Speaker 4: who also showed up previously too with the ones who
Speaker 4: sat down and ate with Abraham. You know, this is
Speaker 4: the two destroyed. Oh I guess it's a little later,
Speaker 4: the two destroy jumping ahead, man, It's okay, though, that's
Speaker 4: another time. A great question that you can ask somebody
Speaker 4: who is not a believer in the Messianic prophecy's fulfilled
Speaker 4: is who ate with Abraham? Who is the one who
Speaker 4: sat and ate with Abraham? And who was the ambassador
Speaker 4: of the most side of the Angel of you, whoa
Speaker 4: that came with him? Whereas the destroying angels went into
Speaker 4: Sodomon Goemora, he stayed back and negotiated with Abram about
Speaker 4: how many people would be elected in space and preserved
Speaker 4: on that on that during that judgment, you know. And
Speaker 4: so he's clearly the one who can speak for the
Speaker 4: most High and interact with people face to face, and
Speaker 4: yet has a totally different level of authority based on
Speaker 4: compared to just a lock, right, a messenger that will
Speaker 4: show up at other times, a very different hierarchical level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, capital Angel of the Lord, you know. So I
Speaker 2: think that's interesting and yeah, and like like we said,
Speaker 2: also in Exodus three two through six, it says the
Speaker 2: Angel of the Lord appeared to him in a blazing
Speaker 2: fire for the midst of a bush. And he looked
Speaker 2: and behold, the bush was burning with fire. Yet the
Speaker 2: bush was not consumed. So Moses said, I must turn
Speaker 2: aside now and see the marvelous sight. So you have that.
Speaker 2: When we jump ahead to when I, you know, when
Speaker 2: Isaac and U, when Abraham's going to sacrifice Isaac, it's
Speaker 2: another thing. The Angel of the Lord shows up. Now,
Speaker 2: if this is Jesus in the Old Testament, what I
Speaker 2: would tell you, guys, listen, because it's called the Christophany.
Speaker 2: Some people believe this is Jesus in the Old Testament
Speaker 2: now calling him an angel. All right, this is not
Speaker 2: Jehovah's witness type stuff. This is just saying the messenger
Speaker 2: of the Lord or the word of the Lord, okay, basically.
Speaker 2: So also so we see that when when Abraham which
Speaker 2: we'll read a little bit later, is going to sacrifice
Speaker 2: Isaac and he's about to stab him, you know, he's
Speaker 2: about to do it, the Angel of the Lord speaks
Speaker 2: to him. So if Jesus was there right there at
Speaker 2: that moment, the Angel of the Lord watching Abraham do that,
Speaker 2: he's it is like exactly the story of what God
Speaker 2: is going to do with his son, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So you see the Angel of the Lord
Speaker 2: witnesses it right there and tells him to stop, you know,
Speaker 2: and it and provides a ram And I just think
Speaker 2: it's fascinating, bro. But it's look into it, guys and
Speaker 2: understand that the Angel of the Lord. It's also in
Speaker 2: Second King's nineteen thirty five, which Nathan was mentioning, where
Speaker 2: the Angel of the Lord went out and struck one
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five thousand in the camp of the Assyrians.
Speaker 2: These men are dude, they got there's all this these
Speaker 2: this army out there, and they're like, what are we
Speaker 2: gonna do? You know what I mean? And the Angel
Speaker 2: of the Lord or the messenger of the Lord took
Speaker 2: out one hundred and eighty five thousand one Angel of
Speaker 2: the Lord. Okay, one hundred and eighty five thousand men,
Speaker 2: tell me that it is not serious, serious stuff right there,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: And he did it previous to this too, like in
Speaker 4: the days of Moses on the Exodus. Here, when you
Speaker 4: go back into Exodus thirteen, it says, and they departed
Speaker 4: from Sekota and encamped in a thumb. This is right
Speaker 4: after passover, you guys, at the edge of the wilderness.
Speaker 4: And Yahoo went before them by day in a column
Speaker 4: of cloud to lead the way, and by night in
Speaker 4: a column of fire to give them light so as
Speaker 4: to go by day and night. The column of cloud
Speaker 4: did not cease by day, nor the column of fire
Speaker 4: by night before the people. Now as they're backed into
Speaker 4: the corner by the red sea, this this cloud by day.
Speaker 4: The Father literally appoints for this to be a protective
Speaker 4: measure over it. But it also specifically says who was
Speaker 4: that cloud by day and that fire by night? And
Speaker 4: here it says and and it came between and the
Speaker 4: messenger verse nineteen and chapter fourteen here and it says,
Speaker 4: and the mits Rights or Egyptians shall know that I
Speaker 4: am Yahoa, when I am esteemed through Pharaoh, his chariots
Speaker 4: and his horsemen, and the messenger, the Angel of Elohim,
Speaker 4: who went before the camp of Ysrael, moved and went
Speaker 4: behind them. And the column of cloud went from before
Speaker 4: them and stood behind them, and came between the camp
Speaker 4: of the Mitz Rights and the camp of Ysrael. And
Speaker 4: it was the cloud and the darkness, and it gave
Speaker 4: light by night, and the one did not come near
Speaker 4: the other all night. And so you'll literally see he
Speaker 4: identified specifically of who is in the cloud, and he
Speaker 4: goes from describing it as Yahuah yodhey Vave in that
Speaker 4: cloud and in the fire, and then the next verse
Speaker 4: you'll see that he literally from this point on describes
Speaker 4: it as the Messenger of Eloheim later on in the passage,
Speaker 4: or the Angel of Yahoa. Right later on in Exodus,
Speaker 4: he specifically says, listen, you need to listen and harken
Speaker 4: to the voice of the Angel of Yahooah, who is
Speaker 4: with you and amongst him, because he's not gonna spare you,
Speaker 4: nor have mercy and compassion on you in that regard,
Speaker 4: like he's like listen and obey him and be careful
Speaker 4: to heed his words that come to him. So he
Speaker 4: is to be reverence and respective. But he is literally
Speaker 4: continually interconnected with the word of Yahooa and as literally
Speaker 4: his ambassador, his direct speaking agent on the earth, and
Speaker 4: the physical protector. It literally says later he takes the
Speaker 4: wheels of the chariots off of the Egyptians when they
Speaker 4: try to cross in and go over the Red Sea.
Speaker 4: It says that he throws the enemy's camp into confusion.
Speaker 4: You'll see later on in other battles he'll show up
Speaker 4: and put dread on the enemy and cause their swords
Speaker 4: to come upon each other. Like the Father's got all
Speaker 4: kinds of different tactics, but the Angel of Yahoa is
Speaker 4: his main weapon warfare in that regard, his main agent
Speaker 4: of change in these battles like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, man, So I would definitely tell everybody
Speaker 2: that's listening to to study that. You know, there's different
Speaker 2: debates you could watch where people are saying that the
Speaker 2: Angel Lord is not Jesus, not a Christophany. Some people
Speaker 2: believe he is now you know, we don't have one
Speaker 2: hundred percent proof, but it just was really interesting when
Speaker 2: he's used you know, and John, it says that no
Speaker 2: one has seen the invisible God, the Father, nobody. So
Speaker 2: the Father is invisible. So whenever, you know, whenever people
Speaker 2: are seeing God, like Abraham for example, and he's eating
Speaker 2: with him and drinking, who is that? You know, that's Jesus.
Speaker 2: You know, That's that's what I believe. That's why I
Speaker 2: think we could connect that. So everything that Nathan is
Speaker 2: saying is it's fascinating. I love it, Bro, because you're
Speaker 2: definitely on the right track. Mone you can always bring
Speaker 2: all this stuff from other areas, and you've read so
Speaker 2: many books I could tell, Bro, and you're so well
Speaker 2: versed in the scriptures. Then that's why I brought you on.
Speaker 2: But I love it. So okay, So now we're here
Speaker 2: at Genesis sixteen. We finished twelve, so let's go to thirteen.
Speaker 2: Then she called the name of the Lord who spoke
Speaker 2: to her. So that's what's interesting too. Look at okay,
Speaker 2: so now she's saying the Lord spoke to her, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So now she's calling the name
Speaker 2: of the Lord who spoke to her, you are the
Speaker 2: God who sees, for she said, have I also here
Speaker 2: seen him who sees me? Therefore the well was called
Speaker 2: beer Lloy Roy observed it's between Kadeshi and Baad. So
Speaker 2: hagar Abraham's son, and Abrahama's son, whom hegar boor Ishmael.
Speaker 2: Abram was eighty six years old, and hagar boor Ishmael
Speaker 2: to Abraham. So think about it. He was eighty five
Speaker 2: when SARAHI said, hey, you know what, just take her,
Speaker 2: have a child. And so you know, they were getting
Speaker 2: old in age. The time was ticking, and the faith
Speaker 2: was moving, you know, going down as they as their
Speaker 2: age went up. You can kind of tell, you know.
Speaker 2: So here we go. So we'll go to Genesis seventeen.
Speaker 2: Now we're moving right along. Let's see. So when Abraham
Speaker 2: was ninety nine years old, the Lord appeared to Abraham
Speaker 2: and said to him, I am Almighty God. Walk before
Speaker 2: me and be blameless, and I will make my covenant
Speaker 2: between me and you and will multiply you exceedingly. Then
Speaker 2: Abraham fell on his face, and God talked to him, saying,
Speaker 2: as for me, behold, my covenant is with you, and
Speaker 2: you shall be a father of many nations. No longer
Speaker 2: shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall
Speaker 2: be called Abraham, thank God, because this whole time I've
Speaker 2: been calling him Abraham, but it's Abram on the page.
Speaker 2: So Abraham, now let's go. For I have made you
Speaker 2: a father of many nations. I will make you exceedingly fruitful,
Speaker 2: and I will make nations of you, and kings shall
Speaker 2: come from you. And I will establish my covenant between
Speaker 2: me and you and your descendants after you and their generations,
Speaker 2: for an everlasting covenant to be God to you and
Speaker 2: your descendants after you. Also, I give to you your
Speaker 2: descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger,
Speaker 2: all the lands of Canaan, as an everlasting possession. I
Speaker 2: will be their God. So very interesting here man, anything
Speaker 2: that you that you want to go over there, that's
Speaker 2: the covenant between God and Abraham right there right and.
Speaker 4: The same important never to be forgotten for the entirety
Speaker 4: of the rest of the scriptures. When you hear these
Speaker 4: references to the covenant that I swore with Abraham, Isaac
Speaker 4: and Jacob, or the covenant I swore to your fathers,
Speaker 4: these are the specific promises that we hold fast to
Speaker 4: and understanding like have we seen all these things fulfilled
Speaker 4: or have we not yet? And so we can know
Speaker 4: where we are in the timeline too, to understand that, hey,
Speaker 4: this covenant is critical. This covenant is critical, even to
Speaker 4: go back to Malkisadek too and what you were reading
Speaker 4: in Hebrew seven. But if you go back a little
Speaker 4: bit in Hebrews five too, when he's talking about this
Speaker 4: the renewing of the covenant, that it is coming, and
Speaker 4: what the Messiah was bringing about was this perfection of
Speaker 4: this idea that he had in mind between us and him,
Speaker 4: to the restoring of the relationship, and this prophecies that
Speaker 4: have been all the way from the beginning about how
Speaker 4: he would hone and perfect this covenant. And in Jeremiah
Speaker 4: thirty one you see that prophesied too where he says,
Speaker 4: for this is the covenant that I shall make with
Speaker 4: the house of is Yesrael after those days, declares Yeahua,
Speaker 4: I shall put my Torah, that's his loving instructions in
Speaker 4: their inward parts and write it on their hearts. I
Speaker 4: will be their eluheman, they shall be my people. Continues
Speaker 4: on in thirty two, verse forty, I shall make an
Speaker 4: everlasting covenant with them, that I do not turn back
Speaker 4: from doing good to them. And I will put my reverence,
Speaker 4: my fear in their hearts, so as to not turn
Speaker 4: aside from me further. In Ezekiel he prophesied, and he said,
Speaker 4: I shall give you a new heart, put a new
Speaker 4: spirit within you. And I shall take the heart of
Speaker 4: stone out of your flesh, and I shall give you
Speaker 4: a heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit,
Speaker 4: my ruock within you, and cause you to walk in
Speaker 4: my laws and to guard my right rulings and do them.
Speaker 4: These are those those promises that are that are brought
Speaker 4: to light too, most most fulfilled. In Matthew twenty six,
Speaker 4: when Yashua says this, as they were eating, Yashua took bread,
Speaker 4: and having blessed it, he broke it and gave it
Speaker 4: to his disciples and said, take eat this. It is
Speaker 4: my body. And taking the cup and giving thanks, he
Speaker 4: gave it to them, saying, drink from it, all of you,
Speaker 4: for this is my blood, that of the renewed covenant,
Speaker 4: which is shed for many for the forgiveness of sins.
Speaker 4: But I say to you, I shall certainly not drink
Speaker 4: of the fruit of this vine from now on till
Speaker 4: that day when I drink it anew with you in
Speaker 4: the rein of my father. So when you're going in
Speaker 4: and we're building these these foundation stones of covenants, this
Speaker 4: is it's critical that you understand the foundation of these
Speaker 4: covenants that are being promised to them. There was there
Speaker 4: was an established wish of this covenant all the way
Speaker 4: back to Adam when he wanted him to be his
Speaker 4: priest and his shepherd. He gave him instructions to guard,
Speaker 4: to guard, that he would be a guardian of these words,
Speaker 4: guardians of these things, and that he would be a
Speaker 4: lover and a protector. These were the fundamental ideas. And
Speaker 4: so as you see these covenants brought to fruition throughout,
Speaker 4: you'll see the father's extension of that over us through
Speaker 4: our relationship with him. But an extension of that has prerequisites. Hey,
Speaker 4: these things you do and you live, you don't do
Speaker 4: these things, there's consequences. But this is what he had
Speaker 4: in mind. These are the ideals that he had in
Speaker 4: mind that he would provide for them this sustaining nourishment
Speaker 4: of a father and as a husband, and if we
Speaker 4: would be loyal to him, that we would be solely
Speaker 4: committed to him. In uniqueness of it. You know, no
Speaker 4: other gods, no other deities, no other allegiances, but to him.
Speaker 4: He would provide these things, and he would write that
Speaker 4: the instructions on the inwardmost part of our being, these
Speaker 4: are the goals of the covenant for.
Speaker 2: Us, Amen, and guys. Covenant. If you don't understand it,
Speaker 2: it's like it's it's an alliance, or it's a pledge
Speaker 2: between God and man. It's like a pledge. Okay, And
Speaker 2: there's other parts I'll tell you, guys. Where covenant is mentioned.
Speaker 2: It's it's mentioned in Genesis six eighteen, which we've already
Speaker 2: gone over. It says, but with THEE, I will establish
Speaker 2: my covenant, and thou shalt come into the ark, thou
Speaker 2: and thy sons, and thy wife and thy son's wives
Speaker 2: with THEE Genesis nine to nine. And I behold, I
Speaker 2: established my covenant with you and your seed after you.
Speaker 2: So this is this is he's telling he's telling him
Speaker 2: this right here. And then so now we have Genesis
Speaker 2: nine eleven. Well, actually I'm sorry. He was talking to Moses.
Speaker 2: He says, but with THEE, I will establish my covenant.
Speaker 2: Right so with his son's daughter. So Abraham came through
Speaker 2: that line right there, right, So we got Genesis nine
Speaker 2: to eleven as well. It says, I will establish my
Speaker 2: covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off
Speaker 2: anymore by the waters of flood. So this is the
Speaker 2: covenant between man and God as well about not flooding
Speaker 2: the earth again. So God does these covenants or these
Speaker 2: these these alone sciences or these treaties between man and God. Right,
Speaker 2: it's like a pledge that God is making. And like
Speaker 2: I said Titus one two, God cannot lie. It is
Speaker 2: impossible for God to lie Hebrews six eighteen. So when
Speaker 2: God is making these pledges, this is you take this
Speaker 2: as absolute fact that this is what's gonna happen, no
Speaker 2: matter what if God is saying it, if you're Christian
Speaker 2: and you're reading this, or if you're Jewish, whatever, you know,
Speaker 2: this is the Old Testament. But anyways, I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: this is a covenant that God is making.
Speaker 4: It's very important, right, absolutely there is. For those of
Speaker 4: you guys have never heard of, there's a gal who
Speaker 4: has a podcast that's called The Promised Perspective Podcasts, and
Speaker 4: she's got a breakdown on historicity of the scriptures from
Speaker 4: Genesis going on through chronological kind of lens piece in overview,
Speaker 4: and she had one of the best breakdowns I have
Speaker 4: ever heard of anyone going into covenant and the etymology
Speaker 4: of it and its use from the beginning all the
Speaker 4: way to the end in the scriptures, because these things
Speaker 4: are also they're ratified, they're rectified through blood. You know,
Speaker 4: there's there's literally you'll always see these thematic elements that
Speaker 4: there is. There's contractual agreements on both sides of the parties,
Speaker 4: and then what they would do is they would sever
Speaker 4: an animal, either kill it or cut it in half,
Speaker 4: and then the parties would walk between those two and
Speaker 4: basically the fulfillment of this covenant is, hey, if you
Speaker 4: break this covenant, what we've done under these animals can
Speaker 4: be done unto you. You know, if you this is
Speaker 4: this is important that there's this ceiling of it with blood,
Speaker 4: and that is the promise that the kind of the
Speaker 4: promisory note at the end of the story. But anyways,
Speaker 4: the promised Perspective podcast and I believe it's season three
Speaker 4: that she has kind of a deep dive historical lens
Speaker 4: through through the scriptures and it has one of my
Speaker 4: favorite episodes on there about covenant, and I highly recommend
Speaker 4: it for those of you guys that are wanting to
Speaker 4: dive a whole other level of deep into that.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why it's good to kind of find out,
Speaker 2: because I mean, some people might hear covenant and not
Speaker 2: understand that word because we don't really use it as much,
Speaker 2: you know, in our language. But if you understand like
Speaker 2: alliance or a plan, you know, that's kind of something
Speaker 2: more in English that we would use. So and God
Speaker 2: and I can understand why, bro, because if you look
Speaker 2: up the word covenant, dude, I mean, this is just
Speaker 2: in the Old Testament alone. There are so many verses
Speaker 2: that go over covenant. So I can understand how she
Speaker 2: could do a deep dive on that and pull up
Speaker 2: all these scriptures and kind of look into that. So
Speaker 2: maybe that's something I could do in the future, you
Speaker 2: know as well. I like that and I want to
Speaker 2: check that thing out, So I'm gonna write that down.
Speaker 2: So all right, we'll go Genesis seventeen nine, and God
Speaker 2: said to Abraham, as for you, you shall keep my covenant,
Speaker 2: you and your descendants after you throughout their generations. This
Speaker 2: is my covenant which you shall keep between me and
Speaker 2: you and your descendants after you. Every male child among
Speaker 2: you shall be circumcised, and you shall be circumcised in
Speaker 2: the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a
Speaker 2: sign of the covenant between me and you. He who
Speaker 2: is are, he who is eight days old among you
Speaker 2: shall be circumcised. Every male child in your generations, he
Speaker 2: who is born in your house, or brought with money,
Speaker 2: or bought with money from any foreigner who is not
Speaker 2: your descendant. He who is born in your house, and
Speaker 2: he who is bought with money, must be circumcised. And
Speaker 2: my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
Speaker 2: And the uncircumcised male child who is not circumcised in
Speaker 2: the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut
Speaker 2: off from his people. He has broken my covenant. All right.
Speaker 2: So this is this is just what it is, man,
Speaker 2: very important stuff, uh, you know, and I think we
Speaker 2: need to understand it. So it's going to be brought
Speaker 2: up by Paul about the gentiles. Okay, you'll find out
Speaker 2: that later on. We'll find out about that part. Okay,
Speaker 2: So if you're if you're uncircumcised right now, and you're like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: understand that. It's it gets explained by Paul later, What's happened,
Speaker 2: what's going on here? You know? So this is this
Speaker 2: is Abraham's descendants. Okay. So so if you're if you
Speaker 2: are uncircumcised and you're in you're hearing this, and you
Speaker 2: know you don't know the Bible really well, you might
Speaker 2: be like panicking here, but understand, we'll talk about it
Speaker 2: a little bit later and kind of explain that. So
Speaker 2: then God said to Abraham, as for Sarah, your wife,
Speaker 2: you shall not call her Sarai, but Sarah shall be
Speaker 2: her name, and I will bless her and also give
Speaker 2: you a son by her. Then I will bless her,
Speaker 2: and she shall be a mother of nations, king of
Speaker 2: people's shall be from her. Then Abraham fell on his
Speaker 2: face and laughed. Okay, he fell on his face and laughed,
Speaker 2: and said, in his heart shall a child be born
Speaker 2: to a man who is one hundred years old? And
Speaker 2: saw Sarah, who is ninety years old, bearah child. And
Speaker 2: Abraham said to God, oh, that Ishmael might might live
Speaker 2: before you. So all right, so this is what I
Speaker 2: was talking about earlier, where I was noticing that the
Speaker 2: older that they get, the less faith that they have
Speaker 2: in them having a child, you know, which is understandable
Speaker 2: as humans, right, it's understandable.
Speaker 4: Super reasonable, super reasonable.
Speaker 2: It is right, and even God is probably like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying what God thinks or what he but
Speaker 2: even God can maybe understand, you know, he knows what's
Speaker 2: up with us, so he's probably understanding. But the fact
Speaker 2: that it says that he fell on his face and
Speaker 2: laughed and said in his heart, you know that that's
Speaker 2: kind of that right there, Like the way that they
Speaker 2: wrote that. I don't know what it says in the Hebrew.
Speaker 2: Maybe I could look that up real quick, Genesis seventeen,
Speaker 2: because that part right there seems that to kind of
Speaker 2: like laughing in the face of God, right almost? Is
Speaker 2: that how you're taking it, Nathan?
Speaker 4: Honestly, every time I've read it, I don't think I've
Speaker 4: ever read that it said that he fell on his
Speaker 4: face and laughed. So I'm like, I'm kind of like
Speaker 4: a little dumbfounded that is that. I'm like, is that
Speaker 4: really what it said?
Speaker 3: Is?
Speaker 4: I don't call that at all. Growing up or reading
Speaker 4: that iriten through it a fair bit, I don't remember
Speaker 4: that so let's.
Speaker 2: See, let's see if the King James. Let's see if
Speaker 2: the King James. I think this is the new King James,
Speaker 2: or this is the King James. I want to make
Speaker 2: sure this one says to laugh, to mock, to play. Okay,
Speaker 2: So if it is to play, maybe if he's if
Speaker 2: he's if he has such a good relationship with God
Speaker 2: that maybe he's he's like in a like maybe like
Speaker 2: joking with God. Maybe I could take it that way.
Speaker 4: It says he fell on his here and this is
Speaker 4: the I R scriptures for what it's worth. It says
Speaker 4: he fell on his face and laughed. Rome is okay,
Speaker 4: So it's a little different context. If he's laughing in
Speaker 4: the face of the messenger, yes, pretty robust.
Speaker 2: Yes, And it may like, like I said, maybe it
Speaker 2: says to sport, to play, to make sport, toy with
Speaker 2: or to make toy off. This is in the strongest concordance,
Speaker 2: so to just so if he if it is like
Speaker 2: in our culture that is to laugh in someone's face
Speaker 2: or laughing the side of God, maybe that's like it's offensive.
Speaker 2: And that's the way I took it when I first
Speaker 2: read it. Right now, But if you look a little deeper.
Speaker 2: If it's to play like sport, maybe toy with God,
Speaker 2: maybe to like, ah, God, are you serious? You know
Speaker 2: that that's a little different. But it's laughing as like hah,
Speaker 2: like laughing in God's face. That's different. That's kind of
Speaker 2: how I took it when I first read it. But
Speaker 2: as I dig a little deeper, what's this important to do?
Speaker 2: If he's kind of like to play or make sport
Speaker 2: or toy with or to make toy of maybe.
Speaker 4: That's a little different, you know, just a joking like
Speaker 4: I kind of a joke. Well, and he doesn't get
Speaker 4: punished like with with an immediate like silencing, you know,
Speaker 4: like because in Luke one Zakaria right that John the
Speaker 4: Baptist dad has it has another This is another old
Speaker 4: couple laid in life and who are promised that they're
Speaker 4: going to have a child. But this is what it
Speaker 4: says that they came to him here, it says, and
Speaker 4: a messenger of Yahua appeared to him. Zakaria is in
Speaker 4: the temple doing his his priestly duties in there, and
Speaker 4: it says and when Zakaria, sorry, excuse me, and a
Speaker 4: messenger angel of Yahua appeared to him standing on the
Speaker 4: right side of the slaughter pace of incense. And when
Speaker 4: Zakaria saw him, he was troubled and fear fell upon him.
Speaker 4: But the messenger said to him, do not be afraid, Zakaria,
Speaker 4: for your prayer is heard, and your wife el Sheiba,
Speaker 4: shall bear you a son, and you shall call his
Speaker 4: name Yokanan or John, and you shall rejoice and have
Speaker 4: joy and gladness. And many shall rejoice at his birth,
Speaker 4: for he shall be great before Yahua and shall drink
Speaker 4: no wine in strong drink at all. He shall be
Speaker 4: filled with the set apart spirit, even from his mother's womb.
Speaker 4: And he shall turn many of the children of Yesrael
Speaker 4: to Yahua, their Eluhim. And he shall go before him
Speaker 4: in the spirit and the power of Eli Yahoo Elijah,
Speaker 4: to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,
Speaker 4: and the disobedient to the insight of the righteous, to
Speaker 4: make ready a people prepared for Yahua. And Zakaria said
Speaker 4: to the messenger, by what means shall I know this?
Speaker 4: For I am old, and my wife is advanced in years.
Speaker 4: And the messenger, answering, said to him, I am Gabriel,
Speaker 4: who stands in the presence of Elohim and was sent
Speaker 4: to speak to you and announced to you this good news.
Speaker 4: But see, you shall be silent and unable to speak
Speaker 4: until the day this takes place, because you did not
Speaker 4: believe my words, which shall be fulfilled in their appointed time.
Speaker 4: And the people waited for Zakaria and marveled at his
Speaker 4: delay the dwelling place, and when he came out, he
Speaker 4: was unable to speak to them, and they recognized that
Speaker 4: he had seen a vision in the dwelling place, for
Speaker 4: he was beckoning to them and remain dumb. So dude, Zakaria,
Speaker 4: Zachariah literally gets struck like mute. He can't speak, but
Speaker 4: he also can't he can't hear. He's like deaf and dumb.
Speaker 4: He shuts him down, it says later on he's making
Speaker 4: signs to them, and he's writing on tablets. The bro
Speaker 4: is silenced for like ten months. That's what he got
Speaker 4: for his doubts. A priest and he's the priest duty.
Speaker 4: And it literally says him and his wife were upright
Speaker 4: before Yahua. They were guardians of his word, like they
Speaker 4: kept his commandments perfectly, like they were like absolutely the
Speaker 4: best people. And yet even in that doubt, bam. He
Speaker 4: got smashed with it, you know. And it's kind of
Speaker 4: crazy because Mary, when the angel tells her she's getna
Speaker 4: conceived by Virgin, She's like, by what, how is this
Speaker 4: going to be possible? So I think we're missing something
Speaker 4: in the minutia here because she doesn't get punished for it.
Speaker 4: But zacharayah, dude, he gets smashed for it with silence. Definitely.
Speaker 4: He's like, he's a pretty and nothing more.
Speaker 2: And plus, isn't that kind of interesting that he didn't
Speaker 2: notice that that was an angel? Like usually whenever angels come,
Speaker 2: they people fall to their knees and start to worship.
Speaker 4: So you know that he said he was coming. It
Speaker 4: said he was filled with total fear and dress. Okay,
Speaker 4: oh okay, he said he was terrified. Okay, okay, knew
Speaker 4: he's pooping the pants a little, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: All right, so let's let's continue read. See. I love
Speaker 2: this man, I love I love having you on, bro.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to do dig some more late later
Speaker 2: on in the future with you, bro. All right. So
Speaker 2: then God said, no, Sarah, your wife shall bury you
Speaker 2: a son, and you shall call his name Isaac. I
Speaker 2: will establish my cup with him for an everlasting covenant
Speaker 2: that with his descendants after him. As for Ishmael, I
Speaker 2: have heard you. Behold, I have blessed him and will
Speaker 2: make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly. Okay, let's
Speaker 2: pause the real quick. So the Angel of the Lord said,
Speaker 2: I will bless you, and I will make and I
Speaker 2: will multiply him. Right, I will. And now right here
Speaker 2: we have the Lord God saying the same thing. I
Speaker 2: will bless him, and I will make him fruitful and
Speaker 2: will multiply him exceedingly. So it's almost like the Angel
Speaker 2: of the Lord and God are kind of the same
Speaker 2: person right in a way, you know, because you know,
Speaker 2: not the same person, sorry, two separate people. But it's
Speaker 2: coming from God still, right, So it's kind of like
Speaker 2: the Trinity. It seems like it's coming out right here.
Speaker 2: So it says he shall be got twelve princes, and
Speaker 2: I will make him a great nation. But my covenant
Speaker 2: I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will shall bury
Speaker 2: to you at this set time next year he will.
Speaker 2: Then he finished talking with him, and God went up
Speaker 2: from Abram. So it's so interesting that God is just
Speaker 2: able to talk to Abraham you know. So, So one
Speaker 2: thing I would say is so like this is this
Speaker 2: is God speaking to Abraham, Like I wonder how this
Speaker 2: is happening? Like is do you think that that that
Speaker 2: God's in his presence speaking to him? The only time
Speaker 2: I ever hear that God is speaking anybody face to
Speaker 2: face is is in Numbers twelve, verses four through eight,
Speaker 2: where God is talking to to Aaron and marry him
Speaker 2: right and says that I speak to I speak to
Speaker 2: my prophets and visions and in dreams. But I but
Speaker 2: when I come to to Moses, I speak to him
Speaker 2: face to face or it says mouth to mouth and
Speaker 2: the King James face to face in the New King James,
Speaker 2: How do you think they're talking right here? Do you
Speaker 2: think that that that God is coming to him in
Speaker 2: a vision speaking to him? Do you think he's talking
Speaker 2: directly to God? Do you think that God is in
Speaker 2: front of him and he's speaking to him? What? What
Speaker 2: is your thoughts on this?
Speaker 4: Well, it doesn't say anywhere that he's physically in front
Speaker 4: of him, So it seems to be that this is
Speaker 4: more communicating to him in a way that is outside
Speaker 4: of just face to face physical realm, Because I don't
Speaker 4: know that anywhere else. It even describes that he met
Speaker 4: with people and spoke to them face to face, except
Speaker 4: for your reference to Moses, you know in that regard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think I just I just wanted to
Speaker 2: see what you thought, you know, because obviously back then
Speaker 2: it was different than how we, you know, speak to
Speaker 2: God now. So Abraham, So will continue Genesis seventeen twenty three.
Speaker 2: So Abraham took Ishmael his son, all who were born
Speaker 2: in his house, and all who were brought with his money,
Speaker 2: every male among the men at Abraham's house and circumcised
Speaker 2: the flesh of their foreskins that that very same day,
Speaker 2: as God said to him. So they are being obedient
Speaker 2: to God. No matter what the case may be, They're
Speaker 2: being obedient to God. Okay. So Abraham was ninety nine
Speaker 2: years old when he was circumcising the flesh of his foreskin,
Speaker 2: and Ishmael, his son, was thirteen years old when he
Speaker 2: was circumcising in the flesh of his foreskin. That very
Speaker 2: same day, Abraham was circumcised in his son Ishmael, and
Speaker 2: all the men of his house born in the house
Speaker 2: were brought with about with money. For foreigner was circumcised
Speaker 2: with him. So there being obedient to God, even though
Speaker 2: that is crazy. That's that's quite a feat, especially being
Speaker 2: ninety nine years old and doing that right. It's interesting.
Speaker 4: But it also shows, like I mean, that's that's his
Speaker 4: quickness to obey is increasing all throughout this story too.
Speaker 4: It's recognizing, like his immediacy to respond and obey, that
Speaker 4: he wants to please his father in heaven, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like he is he is being given
Speaker 4: these promises, and he is also starting to live into
Speaker 4: a stages of his life where he has seen the
Speaker 4: fulfillment of these words that have been given over him.
Speaker 4: You know, he already had this battle with three hundred
Speaker 4: and eighteen of his servants and slaughtered and armies of
Speaker 4: armies of armies. You know, he has got to witness
Speaker 4: El Shadai being his protector and provider in powerful ways.
Speaker 4: So it's beautiful to see his zealousness to want his
Speaker 4: in his heart, he desires to obey. He revers the
Speaker 4: most high and he desires to obey. And those are
Speaker 4: like paramount I mean, as you raising children, anybody who's
Speaker 4: a father out there understands the beauty of what happens
Speaker 4: when your children's hearts begin to incline towards you and
Speaker 4: want to they want to obey. They don't just do
Speaker 4: it because they have to. They don't just do it
Speaker 4: because they fear you. They don't just like when they
Speaker 4: desire of their own volition to do the things that
Speaker 4: pleases you. Man, My family and I just we celebrated
Speaker 4: Seccot this last week, and it was like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: day four or five, I don't know. We're sleeping in
Speaker 4: a storage unit because we're like, our life is ridiculous
Speaker 4: right now. We just went through this crazy hurricane and
Speaker 4: it's chaos in so many ways. But my daughters, I
Speaker 4: got an eight year old and a five year old
Speaker 4: besides my twin babies, and my wife and I woke
Speaker 4: up in the morning and my daughters were not there,
Speaker 4: and I was like, what the heck? And we came
Speaker 4: in and they had cleaned. They had cleaned. We live
Speaker 4: in a littal, small, little one bedroom place, and they
Speaker 4: had cleaned it, and they had made breakfast and they
Speaker 4: had just like and they'd done our chores. They had
Speaker 4: done our chicken chores, and our ducks and our geese.
Speaker 4: And I was like what like they had just they
Speaker 4: had done this out of their love, their desire to
Speaker 4: like do and they're like telling me, They're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we talked about it last night. We're like we're gonna
Speaker 4: get up early and well it's still dark, we're gonna
Speaker 4: put our head lamps on, and like they conspired to
Speaker 4: do good.
Speaker 2: And I was like, this is epic. I was like,
Speaker 2: is this what he could be?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Is this what he could be?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: You know, like there's like these like you have these
Speaker 4: hopes and these dreams of instilling disciplines and righteous disciplines
Speaker 4: in your children, but then when they begin to incline
Speaker 4: back towards you to do good. Like I see my
Speaker 4: eight year old, my daughter Naomi, like her, she has
Speaker 4: this maternal love, this incredible just compassion and this joy
Speaker 4: and this motherliness that's just like her mom, you know.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, she wants to be a mom. She
Speaker 4: desires that, like she longs to be like her mother
Speaker 4: and nurture and take care of it. She's helped to
Speaker 4: raise these twin babies of ours just unbelievably so more
Speaker 4: than most forty year olds know how to raise a child.
Speaker 4: My eight year old is crushing life, you know, and
Speaker 4: it's like it's a beautiful thing to see the maturing
Speaker 4: of a child, this ripening of their fruits. And here
Speaker 4: it is the father. How much more do you think
Speaker 4: the father's heart delights when he sees his sons quick
Speaker 4: to obey, you know, like that is such a beautiful thing.
Speaker 4: It's often neglected from just purely teaching from the New Testament.
Speaker 4: There's lots of love, but there's not an understanding of
Speaker 4: how powerful and beautiful it is to obey. You know,
Speaker 4: it's both, and the Father loves it when we have
Speaker 4: a heart to love him and to obey him, and
Speaker 4: when we balance those out through the fear of Yahoo.
Speaker 4: The fear of him leads to life, it leads to wisdom.
Speaker 4: And you see Abraham has that fear, he has that respect.
Speaker 4: And you see that in this that there is no
Speaker 4: aspect of Abraham's manhood itself that he would not lay
Speaker 4: down his self sovereignty. He's gonna surrender that to the
Speaker 4: Most High. And that's a beautiful heart that's inclined to
Speaker 4: do good to his father and to obey his voice.
Speaker 2: Amen, bro okay, so so sala megamoor, We're gonna get
Speaker 2: to next week. But we're gonna We're gonna go a
Speaker 2: little bit into it right now. But here is a
Speaker 2: spot where it does say the Lord appeared to him,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like appeared to him. So
Speaker 2: and when it says the Lord, that word is is
Speaker 2: Yahoo bah right, it's it's Jehovah or Jehovah. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 2: playing the strongest accordance. It says it's the existing one,
Speaker 2: the proper name of the One True God. It's used
Speaker 2: in Genesis two four when it says in that day,
Speaker 2: the Lord, right, the Lord. So this is the Lord
Speaker 2: appeared to him by the tabernth trees of memory, right
Speaker 2: as he was sitting in the tenth This is going
Speaker 2: to be Genesis eighteen, verse one. Okay, this is why
Speaker 2: it's fascinating to me. Man. It says that no one,
Speaker 2: no man, has seen the invisible God. Right, but we
Speaker 2: have right here. It says the Lord appeared to him
Speaker 2: by the tabernath trees of mame memory as he was
Speaker 2: sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day.
Speaker 2: So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three
Speaker 2: men were standing by him. And when he saw them,
Speaker 2: he ran from the tent door to meet them, and
Speaker 2: bowed himself to the ground and said, my Lord, if
Speaker 2: I have now found favor in your sight, do not
Speaker 2: pass on by, servant. Please let a little wager be brought,
Speaker 2: and wash your feet and rest yourselves under the tree,
Speaker 2: and I will bring a morsel of bread that you
Speaker 2: may refresh your hearts. After that you may pass by.
Speaker 2: And as such as you come to your servant. They said,
Speaker 2: do as you have said. So yeah, so they were
Speaker 2: accepting of this. And it does say three men, but
Speaker 2: it says the lord. And this story gets really interesting,
Speaker 2: all right. So it says so Abraham hurried into the
Speaker 2: tent to Sarah and said, quickly, make ready three measures
Speaker 2: of fine meal, knaed it and make cakes. And Abraham
Speaker 2: ran to the herd, took a tender and good calf,
Speaker 2: gave it to a young man, and he has to
Speaker 2: hasten it to prepare it. He took butter and milk
Speaker 2: and the calf which he had prepared, and said it
Speaker 2: before them, and he stood by them under the tree
Speaker 2: as they ate. So he is hurrying, he's trying to
Speaker 2: get these food ready, He's trying to get everything ready.
Speaker 2: This is obviously an important right now, it said, the
Speaker 2: Lord appeared to him. It says, then he said to him,
Speaker 2: where is Sarah your wife? Then they said to him,
Speaker 2: where's Sarah your wife? And he said, here in the tent.
Speaker 2: And he said, I will certainly be turned to you
Speaker 2: according to the time of life, and behold, Sarah, your wife,
Speaker 2: shall have a son. And then in parentheses, it says
Speaker 2: Sarah was listening at the tent, was listening in the
Speaker 2: tent door, which was behind him. That was maybe not
Speaker 2: in the original Hebrew if they put it in parentheses.
Speaker 2: I'm just letting you guys know that. I think they're
Speaker 2: just trying to give you a little part of the
Speaker 2: story here. Now, Abraham and Sarah were old, well advanced age,
Speaker 2: and Sarah had passed the age of childbearing. Therefore, Sarah
Speaker 2: laughed within herself, saying, I have grown old? Shall I pleasure?
Speaker 2: Shall I have pleasure? My Lord being old? Also? All right,
Speaker 2: So now we have Sarah laughing. But this is not
Speaker 2: taken the same way, right, This is taken like not
Speaker 2: a play. So maybe I could check the strong screw
Speaker 2: cordance there and see if they put that same word
Speaker 2: in the in the Hebrew of laughing or playing. You know,
Speaker 2: maybe it's a different word. So we got Genesis eighteen,
Speaker 2: verse twelve. And if you want to add anything while
Speaker 2: I'm looking this up, rop go ahead, man, Did you
Speaker 2: have anything you wanted to add here? Dude?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just there's a there's a quickness. I wanted
Speaker 4: to contrast this to what I earlier read in about
Speaker 4: how Sodomygamura was treating sojourners and how they were treating
Speaker 4: people that showed up on the horizon. You know, you
Speaker 4: see the exact opposite of what the inclination was, which
Speaker 4: was to very quickly go and make make things ready
Speaker 4: for them to be blessed. He literally goes and gets
Speaker 4: water for him, He washes their feet, He's making sure
Speaker 4: that they're sitting down and cool and off on their journey.
Speaker 4: He's quickly telling his he's going out and slaughtering a
Speaker 4: caf Dude. It takes a long time to butcher an
Speaker 4: animal like I butchered animals like with a knife and
Speaker 4: literally in a handsaw. It takes a long time to
Speaker 4: go from living animal. Even if you've done it a lot,
Speaker 4: I've not done it a ton. I've done it enough
Speaker 4: to understand it's not a fast situation. This is not
Speaker 4: something that's going to happen in thirty minutes or less.
Speaker 4: You know, this is something that requires a deliberate sacrifice,
Speaker 4: tremendous sacrifice of time, energy, swequity. And he is literally
Speaker 4: making sure that she's milling out some grain. Man, she's
Speaker 4: making fresh tortillas. She's dude, this is a this is
Speaker 4: a feast that they're putting on for them, which is beautiful.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's creating an opportunity to have some time
Speaker 4: with them. And I just think it's one of those
Speaker 4: things to not overlook, like how quick, how quick are
Speaker 4: we to be hospitable towards other people in our life
Speaker 4: and strangers, you know, Like, of anything that I've learned
Speaker 4: through this unbelievable, horrific atrocities of that would have happened
Speaker 4: out here, I've seen the beauty of hospitality amongst neighbors.
Speaker 4: I've seen people that are that are literally laying down
Speaker 4: their lives and dropping everything they have to try to
Speaker 4: help their neighbors and the people that are in need.
Speaker 4: And it's it is so profound and how powerful it
Speaker 4: is is to break bread with your neighbors. And I
Speaker 4: just encourage you guys, do this stuff while it's normal.
Speaker 4: Don't wait till there's a crisis. Don't wait till there's
Speaker 4: catastrophes and calamities. To be known as a hospitable person
Speaker 4: to the people around you, because, like it says later on,
Speaker 4: some of you are entertaining angels unaware. And this is
Speaker 4: you have an opportunity to literally be ministering to someone
Speaker 4: who might be a representative of the most high. You
Speaker 4: may not know it, but sometimes you're entertaining a king
Speaker 4: with that's camouflaged.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: That's what Yo Shoe ultimately was. From the day he
Speaker 4: was born, he was undercover. That's the prerequisite of like
Speaker 4: who he was. He was availed to the eyes that
Speaker 4: there was nothing special about him. He wasn't the super
Speaker 4: good looking god, and like, there's nothing about him that
Speaker 4: was remarkable and exceptional visually, there's nothing striking. He was
Speaker 4: literally overlooked and cast aside, you know, And then that
Speaker 4: gave him the camouflage to be able to see who
Speaker 4: people really were, Like how are they actually going to
Speaker 4: treat him when he shows up at your door unannounced?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: And so I just encourage you to understand this is
Speaker 4: part of the heart of the Father. Is to be
Speaker 4: is to be quick to lay down your normal busy
Speaker 4: life and to pick up somebody needs quickly, and to
Speaker 4: do it with a cheerful heart, you know. And you
Speaker 4: see that that quickness to obey like I was talking about,
Speaker 4: the quickness to respond. This is something that's going to
Speaker 4: cultivate goodness from the Father. He's going to extend great
Speaker 4: blessings in favor over Abram because of these kinds of things.
Speaker 4: Same to SARAHI you know, she's going to get some
Speaker 4: laughter in her heart. She's going to get a son
Speaker 4: out of the occasion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which they've been trying to get. That's so important
Speaker 2: to them. So this is Hebrews thirteen to one. We'll
Speaker 2: read right there. This is what he was talking about
Speaker 2: about entertaining angels. Let brotherly love continue. Do not forget
Speaker 2: to entertain strangers, for by doing so, some have unwittingly
Speaker 2: entertained angels. Okay, that is so important. It says, remember
Speaker 2: the prisoners as if chained with them, as if you're
Speaker 2: chained with them, those who are mistreated, since you yourselves
Speaker 2: and the body. Also, so what he's saying is, broh,
Speaker 2: you get these opportunities, like like if you read, let
Speaker 2: me just show you guys something really quick. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I don't want to go off subject, but I was
Speaker 2: reading Jesians two eight. It's something that everybody pulls up.
Speaker 2: But listen to this real quick. This is very important,
Speaker 2: very important. This is what a lot of people talk about,
Speaker 2: but they don't continue the verse. It says, for by grace,
Speaker 2: you have been saved through faith, that not of yourselves.
Speaker 2: It is a gift of God, not of works, lest
Speaker 2: anyone should boast. Okay, that's very important. That's saying that
Speaker 2: we're saved by grace through faith. Okay, that's very important,
Speaker 2: but let's continue reading. This is exactly what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: When God he already has work set up for you.
Speaker 2: It's up to you to complete the works. It says
Speaker 2: for we are as His workmanship created in Christ Jesus,
Speaker 2: for good works which God prepared beforehand, that we should
Speaker 2: walk in them. It means that God has prepared good
Speaker 2: works for us to do beforehand, that we should walk
Speaker 2: in them. It's up to us to walk in them
Speaker 2: and in those good works. Sometime you could be entertaining
Speaker 2: an angel that is so special that we need to understand, man,
Speaker 2: like some people that maybe need that coat, maybe need
Speaker 2: that food, maybe need those shoes, maybe need those socks,
Speaker 2: maybe need anything. You get that moment where that person
Speaker 2: is asking for help, or that prisoner or whatever that
Speaker 2: whoever it is, gets put in your life. God has
Speaker 2: prepared it beforehand that we should walk in them. Dude.
Speaker 2: When I read that, I was like, wow, bro, it's
Speaker 2: prepared for us that we should walk in them. Do
Speaker 2: we always walk in them? Obviously not? But we do
Speaker 2: not walk in them though? To go and be proud
Speaker 2: and boastful this versus telling us that we don't. Go
Speaker 2: and give that person food, water and a blanket or
Speaker 2: whatever you do and then go and tell Nathan, Hey, Nathan, bro,
Speaker 2: guess what I did yesterday? I gave this guy this
Speaker 2: and that way. Nathan's does. Good job, Josh, You're great.
Speaker 2: That's not what we're going for here. You know that
Speaker 2: stuff right there is He's preparing you beforehand that you
Speaker 2: should walk in them, that we should walk in them.
Speaker 2: But do we not always? Right? Not always? Man? Such
Speaker 2: a blessing, bro.
Speaker 4: It couldn't it couldn't be more relevant too? Is I'm
Speaker 4: I'm literally I'm faced with the situation that I couldn't
Speaker 4: even I could not have even imagined, you know, with
Speaker 4: like it's it's it's indescribable to try to show somebody
Speaker 4: the bottom of the of the calamity of what's taking
Speaker 4: place out in eastern Tennessee and North Carolina in particular,
Speaker 4: Like it's it's indescribable to try to articulate this because
Speaker 4: he can't get a picture of the entirety of the
Speaker 4: thing here. But when you when you sit here and
Speaker 4: you look at people who have devastation and total loss
Speaker 4: in their life, and you see this, this literal dude,
Speaker 4: there's this influx of resources coming from nobody knows, Like
Speaker 4: there's so many people who are contributing stuff that Like
Speaker 4: I went today to meet a guy who brought all
Speaker 4: these supplies in right and he's loading up my minivan
Speaker 4: like crazy, and I'm sitting here with some of these things,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, listen, I need to get these these
Speaker 4: to somebody, like right now. And so I went to
Speaker 4: this local church nearby that had been distributing stuff, and
Speaker 4: I heard that they had free food and stuff like
Speaker 4: that for people that were wrecked after all of this,
Speaker 4: And I got to talk to the pastor and the
Speaker 4: wife from this church that otherwise I would have never met,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And like I got to
Speaker 4: see how this started for them, you know, and they
Speaker 4: were like, listen, we didn't want anything to do with this,
Speaker 4: like really, like we just realized halfway through the crisis
Speaker 4: here that we had internet on one half of our
Speaker 4: building and nobody had any means of communicating with each other.
Speaker 4: And they literally started just letting people use their internet.
Speaker 4: And then it turned into like, well, we got all
Speaker 4: these people here, like maybe we should feed them lunch.
Speaker 4: Do these guys want some sandwiches? And so then they
Speaker 4: just pulled out some bread. Do they just started making
Speaker 4: some sandwiches for people. And then like the next day
Speaker 4: they literally had they're like, let's make breakfast. Do you know,
Speaker 4: maybe we can make breakfast, And they thought they'd make
Speaker 4: it for one hundred people, and then three hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty people showed up and they're like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: and they're like running out of food. And she's telling me,
Speaker 4: they're like, we're literally running out of food, and she said,
Speaker 4: not as as we're about to run out of food.
Speaker 4: This restaurant from across the street comes over and it's like,
Speaker 4: we got all this food we want to bring over
Speaker 4: here for you guys to be able to distribute out.
Speaker 4: And she's just starts describing this these miracles of provision.
Speaker 4: As they were faithful with this small amount, they began
Speaker 4: to be entrusted with more and too more, and to
Speaker 4: where I'm standing in a room in their bit basement
Speaker 4: that's just filled with water and propane and diapers and food,
Speaker 4: and like they've got this massive amount of relief. And
Speaker 4: now they're literally coordinating relief with a construction company who's
Speaker 4: going in and cleaning out roads and rebuilding roads into
Speaker 4: these these communities that are not on the news. There's
Speaker 4: so many unnamed towns that have just been obliterated that
Speaker 4: are still, you guys, just completely cut off. And they're
Speaker 4: literally working their way through to re establish a road
Speaker 4: into this area. And as they do, they're setting up
Speaker 4: a little depot and this little church that's, you know,
Speaker 4: forty five miles away is shipping out supplies to get
Speaker 4: to that little tiny pocket. And it's, dude, it's it's
Speaker 4: it's a beautiful thing to get to witness, like how
Speaker 4: how the body is supposed to function. But even some
Speaker 4: of these people, men that have it on their hearts,
Speaker 4: they're not even non believers, and yet they of their
Speaker 4: they're still carrying forth these commands that are written on
Speaker 4: the wo hearts of men, that we should still love
Speaker 4: our neighbors, we should still have if we have extra,
Speaker 4: we can share with others. Man, and I just these
Speaker 4: are those moments that you see throughout the heart of
Speaker 4: the Father that is still there in people to meet
Speaker 4: the needs of others. And any of you that are
Speaker 4: in those positions, man, bear it up exceedingly, because you'll
Speaker 4: be blown away at what the Father can do through
Speaker 4: you if you have that same heart of hospitality and
Speaker 4: that heart to love and nourish your neighbor, to feed them,
Speaker 4: to clothe them, and to water them with the thing
Speaker 4: they need most in life, which is this word. They
Speaker 4: need this, man, because like you said at the start
Speaker 4: of this, that faith comes through hearing, and hearing comes
Speaker 4: from the word of Elowheem. So I thank you so much, man.
Speaker 4: This has been amazing to get to come on here. Dude.
Speaker 4: I get to talk about all kinds of other stuff,
Speaker 4: but this is the heart of what revives nations. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, hey, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, it's such a blessing to
Speaker 2: even be I'm so glad cult the conspiracy and by
Speaker 2: the me to do this because my show is is
Speaker 2: Christian and conspiracy. So I kind of have a subject
Speaker 2: that we kind of dive into, and I talk about
Speaker 2: Bible as much as I can. Sometimes I talk about
Speaker 2: it on my show, like when I go to biblical
Speaker 2: cosmology or go into giants, or I go into these
Speaker 2: certain subjects. But going through the Bible like this for
Speaker 2: people that are conspiracy theorists and having someone like you
Speaker 2: come on bro and speak the way you know, how
Speaker 2: eloquently you speak, and the stuff that you know and
Speaker 2: what you've been through, it blesses the life been of people.
Speaker 2: So you know, all glory to God for this. We'll
Speaker 2: finish off real quick Genesis eighteen thirteen. So then the
Speaker 2: next week we'll be going over Sodomigemora, you know, so
Speaker 2: we'll get into that, which will be amazing. So Genesis
Speaker 2: eighteen thirteen says and the Lord said to Abraham, why
Speaker 2: did Sarah laugh? Saying shall I surely bear a child?
Speaker 2: Since I am old? Is there anything too hard for
Speaker 2: the Lord at the appointed time, I will return to
Speaker 2: you according to the end of the to the time
Speaker 2: of life, and Sarah shall have his son. But Sarah
Speaker 2: denied it, saying I did not laugh. She was afraid,
Speaker 2: and he said, no, you did laugh, which and it's
Speaker 2: in it. It seems like he kind of said this
Speaker 2: and aloud, but no, you did, Like, are you really
Speaker 2: gonna try to tell me that, you know? And you
Speaker 2: know what, we can't blame the woman, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, she's she's in a pretty strange predicament where
Speaker 2: she laughed on the inside, is what it said, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like it didn't say that she
Speaker 2: laughed out loud. It says she laughed on the inside,
Speaker 2: and God knew. And she's trying to deny it, just
Speaker 2: like Eve, just like Adam, a straight lie. He did it,
Speaker 2: he did it? No, he did it, you know? Or
Speaker 2: she did it? You know so and God already knows.
Speaker 2: But it's just so really interesting that this little thing
Speaker 2: happens between the Lord and Sarah, you know or Sarah?
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, what a wonderful show man. And just
Speaker 2: so everybody knows, Nathan does live in North Carolina and
Speaker 2: he just went through all this crazy stuff with the
Speaker 2: hurricanes and what an amazing Let's let's go back to
Speaker 2: the screen where we can actually talk in person. Not
Speaker 2: in person, but you know a little better here. So
Speaker 2: all right, so the word We're done with the word part.
Speaker 2: We have maybe another five minutes or so. Nathan, would
Speaker 2: I always like to ask people, is you know on
Speaker 2: my show Josh Monday, Christ and Geispirazy podcast, any last
Speaker 2: words for audience that that you kind of want to
Speaker 2: go over anything important for them to know, anything that
Speaker 2: you know anywhere they want to follow you or or
Speaker 2: you know, maybe check out your book. We'll we'll leave
Speaker 2: it with that if you could give them.
Speaker 4: That, Nathan, Man, if there's if there's anything I could
Speaker 4: just pass on to people. Wash you know, I'm in
Speaker 4: a really interesting season because we've got to we got
Speaker 4: to experience what it's like for I don't know wherever
Speaker 4: you guys are at on your scale of understanding about
Speaker 4: maybe where what we're going to be facing in our
Speaker 4: lives and in the future. But you know, we've been
Speaker 4: my family and I've been kind of with the preparedness
Speaker 4: mindset community for a long time, you know, and to
Speaker 4: sit here and we've we've seen some major devastations through
Speaker 4: forest fires and things like that, and we've got to see.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's no greater time to see what
Speaker 4: is in the heart of somebody when they go through crisis,
Speaker 4: you know, when you crank up the heat of affliction
Speaker 4: and adversity. And it was it was one of these
Speaker 4: moments in our life where we got to see and
Speaker 4: witness what's in the heart of so many people, you know,
Speaker 4: and what becomes the greatest concerns, what becomes the greatest
Speaker 4: things that are most valuable and most important, most precious
Speaker 4: to you man. And on one side of the spectrum,
Speaker 4: what I got to see in witness so is people
Speaker 4: that without cell phones, within twelve hours were breaking in
Speaker 4: and stealing and strong arm robbing and stabbing people over water.
Speaker 4: I mean, within twelve hours, there were some that turned
Speaker 4: to devour to each other and were willing to go
Speaker 4: to violence because they lost their addictions of technology and
Speaker 4: the dopamine dump that they're always getting from their phones.
Speaker 4: And there is that level of humanity that we have
Speaker 4: to address and understand that this is what's in the
Speaker 4: heart of a lot of people today, that there's no
Speaker 4: basic understanding of preparedness. There's no basic understanding of self reliance,
Speaker 4: and they've been demeaned down to this depreciated, horrific level.
Speaker 4: And that came to the surface rapidly. But also on
Speaker 4: the other side of it, I got to see this
Speaker 4: resiliency of people who have gone through hardships. People that
Speaker 4: live in the Appalachian Mountains by and far have experienced
Speaker 4: power outages and water outages. They understand some of the
Speaker 4: hardships of life. And how much more better equipped they
Speaker 4: were to administer relief, administer help and aid. Like trees
Speaker 4: came down in my yard and my driveway and blocked
Speaker 4: the road and like put a I cut part of
Speaker 4: it and got it out of the way. But my neighbor,
Speaker 4: before I even got back down there, had cut it
Speaker 4: and chopped it up and moved it out of the way.
Speaker 4: And like there was this immediacy of people that because
Speaker 4: their basic needs were already met, they were able to
Speaker 4: go and outreach rapidly. And you know what it's like,
Speaker 4: My mentality is not self reliance and self preservation. So
Speaker 4: I can live, Bro, my life. I died a long
Speaker 4: time ago, Bro, and another man came back to life.
Speaker 4: My life was ransomed and purchased out of the house
Speaker 4: of bondage. And you know what, I'm not trying to
Speaker 4: preserve my life here, but I do I've seen the
Speaker 4: benefit of having preparations on hand that enabled me to
Speaker 4: be able to still minister to others during this crisis,
Speaker 4: and I'm so thankful for that. And I just encourage you, guys, man,
Speaker 4: take a minute, take some time to make practical preparations
Speaker 4: for your heart and your mind and your mentality so
Speaker 4: that you can have a maintained heart, a level head,
Speaker 4: and what would come out of you would be the
Speaker 4: fruits of righteousness. Man. And there's nothing that will prepare
Speaker 4: you more effectively than knowing the word and having an
Speaker 4: understanding of the words. So I challenge you, guys, prepare
Speaker 4: your hearts, you know, prepare your hearts because these the
Speaker 4: days are evil that are out there. But you know what,
Speaker 4: this is the greatest opportunity for us to hunt the
Speaker 4: souls of men. And so those are some of the
Speaker 4: things that I am zealously passionate about in the big
Speaker 4: takeaways for me in the season. So if any of
Speaker 4: you guys want to check out our content, we've got
Speaker 4: I don't know six hundred videos on there dealing with
Speaker 4: a colt mind control and ritualistic abuse, to family farming
Speaker 4: and regenerative and homesteading and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: But you can go to Snatch from the Flames dot com.
Speaker 4: We also have a huge recommended reading resources section. Whether
Speaker 4: you're into homeschooling or conspiracies and all these different topics,
Speaker 4: or ancient archaeology and forbidden history. We've got a bunch
Speaker 4: of recommended reading lists that are there and you guys
Speaker 4: can find us also at YouTube dot com, Backslash and
Speaker 4: Nathan Reynolds and my book Snatched from the Flames is
Speaker 4: there as an audio version and the audio scriptures are there.
Speaker 4: So anyways, I appreciate you having me on here, Josh.
Speaker 4: It's always I love doing these with you, bro. It's
Speaker 4: one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: We could do it, man, And if you're cool with
Speaker 2: the nine o'clock showman, I could always do that. Man.
Speaker 2: I usually do this at five am. Just come on
Speaker 2: and it feels and I'm gonna let you guys know something.
Speaker 2: The audience is listening. I do not do shows alone ever,
Speaker 2: so when I started this Sunday service, I literally am
Speaker 2: doing a show alone, and I don't usually do it,
Speaker 2: so I want to definitely bring gentlemen like Nathan and
Speaker 2: Pastor rich Tidwell and other people on, and I think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be amazing, So please stick around for more episodes.
Speaker 2: I think this is a great episode. I love it.
Speaker 2: But like we always do, we end this in prayer. So,
Speaker 2: Father God, in the name of Jesus, in the name
Speaker 2: of your shuw with the mahiak, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for this glorious time of digging into your word. I
Speaker 2: just want to pray for anybody that's listening right now,
Speaker 2: that's out there struggling, anybody that's gone through this hurricane,
Speaker 2: anybody that's gone through the hurricane in Florida, anybody that's
Speaker 2: gone through the bombing and Palestine and everything. I want
Speaker 2: to pray for everybody that's going through hardships right now, Lord,
Speaker 2: or anybody that's locked in bondage and chains. Me and Nathan,
Speaker 2: as you know, Lord, have been locked in chains and
Speaker 2: in bondage. I was stuck in the drug addiction. I
Speaker 2: was stuck in the alcohol. I was stuck in the pornography,
Speaker 2: the lust of the flesh. I was so stuck in
Speaker 2: all these chains, Lord, break these chains. We asked anybody
Speaker 2: that's listening right now that's having issues with any of
Speaker 2: the stuff I mentioned, along with any other bondage like cigarettes,
Speaker 2: dip tobacco, food addiction, whatever kind of addiction is out
Speaker 2: there that people might be stuck under. Lord, we asked
Speaker 2: that you break those chains and your shoe with the
Speaker 2: Mischiak's name in Jesus's name. And also if anybody's having
Speaker 2: Satanic ritual abuse or any type of sexual abuse, or
Speaker 2: any type of rape or incest or anything is going
Speaker 2: on in their lives, Lord, we asked that you rebuke
Speaker 2: these demons in the name of Jesus, flick them off
Speaker 2: like bugs. Lord. And if anybody's trying to pray against
Speaker 2: us as we're doing this show, if you guys are
Speaker 2: trying to pray against us, against Nathan, against me, or
Speaker 2: against my children or his children or our family, Lord,
Speaker 2: we asked that you send an a legion to angels
Speaker 2: to destroy and rebuke those words that they try to
Speaker 2: speak against us. Because I do feel sometimes that I'm
Speaker 2: spiritually attacked for what I'm trying to do. Lord, but
Speaker 2: I will speak this Bible boldly, Okay, I will not
Speaker 2: let anybody allow me to not speak this boldly, and
Speaker 2: I will stand on your faith. Lord. You are the
Speaker 2: foundation of my life, of Nathan's life, and in my
Speaker 2: house I will serve you. Lord, So please help me
Speaker 2: to please help me to teach the Bible as best
Speaker 2: as I can. Lord. I'm trying to do the best
Speaker 2: I can. But help me to have a little time
Speaker 2: to study your word and be with you that way.
Speaker 2: I'm not just studying the word for the show. I
Speaker 2: want to study the word to be with you, Lord,
Speaker 2: So please allow that to happen. And Nathan, I know
Speaker 2: he's going through a tough time the hurricane and everything,
Speaker 2: but his children, look what they're doing. They're being exceedingly
Speaker 2: pleasant to him and making him food and stuff. And
Speaker 2: keep that happening in his life, Lord, because obviously I'll
Speaker 2: put a smile on his face and the joy of
Speaker 2: you giving us these beautiful children that you've blessed us with.
Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Lord, We love you and Jesus
Speaker 2: name Amen. Thank you. Bro. Nathan. You will be back, bro.
Speaker 2: So you just let me know when you want to
Speaker 2: come back, and you have an open spot always, bro.
Speaker 2: So everyone that's listening subscribe to my YouTube if you can,
Speaker 2: It's Josh Money Musicain Podcast. You can see my other show.
Speaker 2: You can see all the crazy guests I've had on that.
Speaker 2: I've had Nathan on a lot, and weko will we
Speaker 2: go at it? Then we go at it, just like
Speaker 2: this show. So thank you guys for listening and God bless.
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