Speaker 1: And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually
claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,
come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There
is no such thing as an expert when it comes
to bigfoot.
Speaker 2: They know in an instant that you were in the woods.
Speaker 3: There is no hiding from them, There is no being
quiet or.
Speaker 4: Sneaking up on them.
Speaker 5: As soon as you walk in the woods, you walk
in their front door, thinking that you are going to
surprise them. You're only kidding yourself.
Speaker 1: We have got to get out of our heads that
anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in my opinion,
that we have to learn about these creatures right now
is by listening to and talking to those that have
experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and experienced them
in their own environment.
Speaker 2: We do what we do to try to bring away
in as f this topic to be an open door
for somebody to walk through, to be able to share
their story, a listening.
Speaker 5: Here, a support pold for those who have held their
own encounters with that which is not supposed to exist.
Speaker 1: We've got to open our eyes people, there is something
out there. All of these thousands of people that have
seen something. They're not all lined, they're not all crazy.
There are some very reputable, good people out there that
have seen something.
Speaker 2: Welcome a new member to Manimal Research, our investigation team,
a new researcher to our team. He is from Georgia
and Northeast Georgia in South Carolina, both right on the line.
He's gonna be working in both those areas. And uh,
he's gonna come on and talk about some some bigfoot
stuff tonight. But one of the things that he wants
to talk about and what we're going to talk about
for a good bit is his experience with dog Man
and he had an encounter and he knows he has
some family members that had an encounter, but he actually
had a visual of this thing. And he's gonna come
on and give the backstory to that and then give
his encounter and got time after that, Well, we'll talk
about some bigfoot. But I do want to welcome and
I hope everyone will give give Kenny a warm welcome
and just welcome to the to the family, to the group.
With all that being said, let's bring him on up there.
He is, how's it going, buddy?
Speaker 5: Well, Hey, what's going on with I Llosa. Been a
great interesting show, been very interesting, very intrigued.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were supposed to come out with us, but
we weren't able to make it.
Speaker 6: Unfortunately.
Speaker 5: Now it turned out to be a bad weekend truck
set me down, so I couldn't couldn't make it. But yeah, yeah,
well we greaty for Coop.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's sure would have.
Speaker 2: We tipped up a lot of time talking about this,
this expedition.
Speaker 6: So we're going to get right into it.
Speaker 2: And I talked to you before we came on and
told you that that we'd start talking about this dog
man encounter first.
Speaker 6: We'll open up the interview with that.
Speaker 2: So with that being said, I'm going to you know,
hand the floor to you and just take it from
there and walk us into get as much detail as
you can.
Speaker 6: Okay, buddy, all.
Speaker 5: Right, Well back in uh it would have been probably
early spring. It had been two thousand. I do believe
had some issues going on on the farm. It was
actually my in laws property and the neighbor's property.
Speaker 6: Uh, just in North Georgia.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're in northeast Georgia, far far northeast corner of Georgia.
Could have you know, we we thought, okay, it could
have been whatever. But then the great grandmother or would
have been well grandmother in law. She had other other
stories to tell. And she had raised baby goats, and
so did the neighbor and they raised boar goats, registered
board goats, beautiful little boar goats, but you know how
aggravating goats can be. Also at the same time, but
he also he had horses, and he had a few
head of cattle and everything. But throughout the time she
always liked to, uh, you know, nurse and raise little
infants and things that mother wouldn't take care of. She
worked for the forestry service, the grandmother did, and she'd
had a few, you know, a few stories to tell
which will tie all into the long of this where
the actual happening everything happened. That was all within a
quarter mile really of this property. It's it's a beautiful
little area. It's maybe a half mile off of the
Chattahoochee River, I guess if you go direct, but it's
over a ridge. The Chattahoochie goes through a valley down
in Blow and it's it was all woods. There is
a neighborhood back in there, which is another long story
that I did a lot of work in too. And
it's right on the other side of a W M
A which is six hundred and fifty acres, And this
neighborhood is a gated community that I did work on
back in ninety six and ninety seven. I was probably
I think I was fourteen when I started. My dad
was into property developments and a few of the things,
and with a few other friends, but all woods, all river.
It was also very private and secluded because people were
not supposed to be over in that area unless they
were either directly related to, you know, working in that area,
or property owners amongst that area. And it all started
though I think it was two thousand, and had been
in two thousand, it would have been probably October to November.
We left out one night, it was kind of late.
We were pulling out of the driveway. Now we had
fences on both sides for at least three hundred yards
because it was all pasture. Now to our right as
we pull out is the neighbor's property, which he had
had like I said, he had the full registered board goats,
and he'd had property damaged, and he had also had
goats missing, and his his dogs. I mean, we rely
on dogs a lot, you know, when we're farming that
the dogs let us know if there's something messing around.
But his dogs, like I said, they weren't running and
going wide open, and they would only go and let
him know so much. Well, he did not lose anything
for the little bit that I was there. This was
within the six month period. But his animals were scared.
And but one night, it would have been November. I
do believe it would have been early November because my
ex wife, she was pregnant with my daughter at the time,
and we were leaving out and as soon as we
pulled out, we went as soon as we went past
maybe a quarter mile coming out of the graveyard to
our left, in a church on our right, and you
got to think this is all in a triangle period.
It was foggy. The coats started across the road. I
slowed down. Now I'm in a Bronco two. It was
an old eighty seven model, I think it was, but
it was sitting up on a three inch lift with
brush guard.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 5: This huge wolf basically guarded. Stopped on the double yellow
line and stopped and let these coyotes eight to twelve
pass and looked at us as if it dared us
to come any closer. And it was me, my ex wife,
Like I say, she was pregnant. We were all sober,
and a friend of mine that had been a friend
of mine since we were twelve years old, and I
stopped the bronco looked dead at it, and we all stared,
and this thing stared at us. It seemed like it
was at least thirty seconds to a minute, and it
probably was close to fifteen seconds. And it was huge.
Speaker 2: It was was it on all fours or was it
standing on two?
Speaker 5: It was on all fours at that time. But it
dared us with everything it had, I guess for as
eyesight goes, and it basically dared us to, you know,
basically come on. And I sat there with it. Well
soon as the about the eighth or there was somewhere
about eight to twelve coyotes across. I lost track of
that because I was too busy looking at how big
he was. And when I say big, he would have
came up nine five eleven, he would have come up
to my chest, which come up to about where the
top of the brush guard would have came up to
on my Bronco too, and so he would have been
four feet at his back, and he was a dirty mange,
kind of a dirty mange, tan and gray. But like
I say, the weirdest part when I really put it together,
was that he came out along with the kyoties out
of like say, a graveyard. But if you dropped straight
off the backside of that graveyard, the river in the
woods go straight on down. That was very weird, you know.
Our Our whole evening was okay, Well.
Speaker 2: Can you can you describe a little bit for for
everybody that's that's watching us, what exactly he looked like
and what what makes you what told you that this
was a dog man or something like that, other than
just a weird looking coyote, since it was with the coyotes,
what tells you that it was something different?
Speaker 5: He was twice to full time, probably really four times
the size, and and me, being a bad judge of
character of weight, probably would say he was two hundred
and fifty to four feet in the range. He never
he never pulled like completely sideways. He turned his head.
And I don't know if people are familiar with h
you know, like plot hounds and a German shepherd cross
at the same time or as a head goes. He
he had a huge head on him. That would have
you know dwarfed a good good sized German shepherd and
a plot hand. He was you know, his head was
twice the size and he looked kind of mangy but
muscled out at the same time. So, I mean it
was a very weird his his back was kind of arched. Also,
uh didn't didn't really see much of a tail. I
don't remember. I don't recall still to this day, said
much of a tale.
Speaker 6: Well what did what.
Speaker 2: Did Janie tell us about the tails on these things?
Speaker 6: He said?
Speaker 2: And when they're a pupp they have tails, but as
they get older they don't lose the tails, but they
kind of retract in. They don't really have a tail
as an adult. If I remember that, if I remember
so you you don't remember much of a tail.
Speaker 5: No, I mean, now I was fixed and explain that
if you if you're saying you know how say red
hailer Australian shepherd holds their tail, they hold it in
and so you might just see a little tip come
out or a little bit, but you don't other than that,
you really don't see it until there until their full
fledged may be running and they point, they point with
their tail, or they'll use their tail for I guess
weight maybe, or I just I don't recall seeing a tail.
I looked. I was so focused and enamored with the
size and the look of this thing.
Speaker 4: And yeah, while we're looking up on on legends of
ending uh my engine an Indian heritage over here about
something running with that which it's in the folk lord,
it's supposed to be a couti king. But the description
for a coyote king is like it has a tail.
As you're describing this thing, this thing possibly doesn't have tail.
The dog men I don't supposed to have tails during
the pup, So I think he's got a tiding man.
I think he got a class as sign of a
poss of a dog man.
Speaker 5: But that praise.
Speaker 4: The question is why was it running with couties. That's
what's unless it was raised by them or something as
a pup.
Speaker 2: And then here's your question from mister Mercedes from Mercedes
gemin is, did you see the snout or the nose
and it's so described it.
Speaker 5: Yes, and and the snout and nose were not of
a German shepherd nor of what I would consider a
big blockheaded plot hound. It was kind of in between. No,
I didn't see teeth. I do not recall seeing any teeth,
just a large, large muzzle.
Speaker 4: Like the flat or longwise like skip slender.
Speaker 5: It had. It had the length about twice the length
of a of what a normal German shepherd would have,
but it had the blocky kind of a block head
and a block muzzle more like a like I said,
maybe a pit or a plot hand. It was a
law urge. And when I say lords, it would have
it wouldn't. It wouldn't have been probably, you know, six
or eight inches would have been probably the estimation on.
Speaker 2: One of our One of our regulars here, mister crave
Dog says he's heard a few stories of dog men
running with coyotes, so that that's cool.
Speaker 6: Thanks, thanks crave Man.
Speaker 4: I kind of answer my question.
Speaker 5: Kind to this day, think that they will use coyotes
because oaks can maybe help them when they're young and
they maybe they don't have a pack of their own,
and kyotes, you know, they will coyotes will take up
with the dogs, you know, they'll take up with diamonds
depends on who's feeding them and who who dominates. M h.
They're you know, they're they can adapt to anything in everywhere.
And that's that's kind of my theory on that.
Speaker 2: You said that you're about five or eleven and this
thing on all fours, you would guess would come up
to around.
Speaker 5: Your chest, right, it would have came up to it
would have been a good four feet tall.
Speaker 6: The back would have come up to your your chest.
Speaker 5: The box, the back would have came up to my chest.
Speaker 6: It Now, guys, I have I have a great dame.
Speaker 2: Uh he's about two hundred pounds almost well, as you've
seen him. You seen how big my dog is. My
dog's massive, he's huge. He comes up to about my
waist and I'm six foot tall, so where about the
same height. And this dog, my dog comes up to
my waist. So if you're talking about one that comes
up to your chest, that's just that's terrifying.
Speaker 4: And besides, that's the same hous as my life.
Speaker 6: She's four eleven.
Speaker 2: And if my dog is almost two hundred pounds, you
might not you might not be wrong if you say
four hundred pounds.
Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, I guess themated looking in just because
of the way his back was arched, when the way
he was sitting. But you know that. Here's the other
interesting is he had been shot quite a few times.
The he he had came in and you know, it
came in on goats, and the neighbor that owned the
goats had actually shot this thing. And we looked and
here's the crazy part. He shot this thing at probably
I think seventy five yards by the way, we guestimated before.
Speaker 2: Your uncle you're talking about and you were telling me about, No,
this is a neighbor.
Speaker 5: This is a neighbor of mine. Okay, this is this
was an old neighbor. This is an ex this is
my in law ex in laws, and this is their farm,
their property. Uh. This this gentleman's into you know, big
into his roping horses and cutting and all that. But
you know he's got a beautiful little small farms, not huge.
I think they may have maybe eighty acres. My ex
mother in law actually she sold her property to him,
and she's decided she wants to travel. Now. I was
trying to get in touch with him other than just
going knocking on his door. I didn't get a straight
answer when I was trying to, you know, figure out
more thing about you know, what really happened, because it's
been on my mind for years, even talking with my
ex wife, Me and her every hardly ever talk, but
I asked her about it just out of the blue
and she's like, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3: So it was.
Speaker 5: It was kind of an odd situation. But there was
one night though this was during all that he called,
or there was there was a phone I think it
was Mama called, which was a great grandmother and grandma.
Then Donnie was out. We were inside the house, which
we were probably one hundred it's about one hundred and
fifty yards, trying to trying to try to imagine like
a triangle. Say, we were at the point and of
the triangle on on the far end you're looking up,
and his goats got herded in. Now he had sectioned
off pastures.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more. But the big flip report, we'll
be right back.
Speaker 5: And he came out and he shot this thing. I
heard the noise, the racket. There was a bush line
and that's when we went. I heard and I saw
the figure of this thing and a few of the coyoties.
But I had to get on over the bushline and
the fence, and by then it was kind of too late.
We met up, we followed a blood trail, and it
just stopped completely. There was a dead goat damn near
decapitated where he had hold up by the back of
the neck, and the coyotes everything left. But when he
had the spotlight on it, I saw it from the
back porch through the bushes and it was the big boy,
and and we we went probably one hundred to one
hundred and seventy five yards, and all of a sudden
there was no blood trail.
Speaker 4: Again than did you uh with the sight? And did
did this thing when it got shot?
Speaker 5: Did it make it?
Speaker 4: Did it make a uh any kind of thing like
off top of laughing or it sound like a coyote laughing?
Or did you hear anything when it got shot? I
mean usually the dog gets shot. It usually yeps.
Speaker 5: It made some racket, but it didn't last very long.
He said it was a gut shot, side shot. He
just shot on it. Okay, Yeah, I came out with
a rifle. All I had was a twenty two magg
It's best I had, as it, Like I said, was
it in laws? But when we followed it, it didn't
last long. It was a one hundred two. Maybe I'm trying.
I'm trying to remember the distance between there, and all
of a sudden it just pretty well stopped. And this
was through an open field, and we're probably maybe thirty
yards on the fence line. It goes into a whole
nother little wooded and fenced area. Not not too sure
about that area over there. Never actually walked around it.
Speaker 2: But Mercedes Jiminez has another question for you. Do his
legs look human? And I seen a picture of one
that looked human with paws.
Speaker 5: No, I don't really think his his the back legs,
be honest with you. I was too busy looking at
the front side, and don't recall much about the paws.
I looked like basically at a dog, at a huge dog.
Speaker 6: Kay.
Speaker 5: Other than they, I didn't. I don't recall a tail.
I remember the back being arched, but don't don't recall
anything much more than seeing a dog. It's just the
fact that they were. They were a little It was
a tannish gray, like a dark dingy brown slash. It
was a it was a dirty look, I mean, just
like flat out dirty almost. I mean kind of like
it had been rolling in the red clay and then
maybe finding some pluff mud or something to play in.
I don't. And that's and like I say when I say,
look dingy, that was probably the path, the dirt and
the mud on its fur. But it was from the
side I saw, and the stance it took it me
and the vehicle.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 5: It was just it was a dingy.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 2: Now you had made the comment that it had been
shot a few times? Could you tell by looking at
it that it had been injured before?
Speaker 5: Maybe by the arch of its back, maybe the way
it was carrying itself. But like I say one night,
when I say that it stood in its back and
that wasn't you know, including the arch of his back.
The arch of his back was probably eight inches over,
which would have come up a little bit over, you
know the brush guard. Brother than that. The shoulder stance
that it had it was leaving it was at least
four foot, So.
Speaker 6: It's like a hunt back. Would you would you say that?
Speaker 5: Or if y'all ever saw a dog or a bear,
If you're a bear, that's that's full Or a dog
how they how they'll carry theirself. They'll they'll arch their
back because they got like a hookworm and they're carry themself.
Kind of funny, okay when when like when they see
when they carry there and it may have been eat
up with hook worms. I mean yeah, I don't know,
but it was still pretty healthy. But it just looked
kind of mangy to me in a sense. But it
was still a large muscular all.
Speaker 6: Right, man, that.
Speaker 2: That's crazy crazy crazy signing. It looks it sounds like you, uh,
you got a pretty good look at one. How far
away were you.
Speaker 5: By the time I actually stopped the vehicle. I never
got over probably like twenty five mile an hour within
that probably a quarter mile range. It was. It wasn't
for it. It was pretty foggy, kind of just drifts
a fog. It had been raining a little bit. It's
getting in the folly here, I don't know. You know
how the mountains go. You get back to the fog
and all of a sudden it's kind of clear. And
it was just in one of those clear so we
were probably maybe eighty tow one hundred feet away. It
wasn't It was not very far, and I had bright lights,
like I say, K S lights. I had k S lights.
If y'all remember what the old k SEA lights are
right there, they're kind of getting faded out now, they
used to be. They used to be that on the
brush guard and all that. I had the k S lights.
I had my bright lights, and I also, you know,
like they have my Max wife, she shed probably talk
about it, but it scares her and she freaks out
about it. And then I have a friend of mine
I haven't Me and him have only mentioned it two
or three times out of probably twenty years. I actually
haven't got talked to him about it, but he would
be an interesting, you know, conversation I have with it
because he's a very detail oriented person, and he was
back then probably a little more detail origa than I was.
Because I'm thinking, we need to go get baby for
me from Walmart that night. That's the only reason we
were leaving now, and he was he had a bunch
of construction going on in his home and was just
kind of hanging out with us and needed a need
a place to stay, and we were all having a
decent little cookout. He was a real good friend of
mine and still is to this day.
Speaker 2: But so there was three of you in the car
and all three of you saw this thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all three of us all sit there and stared
at it.
Speaker 6: That's something out there.
Speaker 2: It's not just one person claiming to see something.
Speaker 6: You had three adults that saw.
Speaker 2: The same thing, and we're all shaken up by it.
So that in itself says something.
Speaker 4: Did you happen to see possibly if it was painting
then or possibly got a glimpse of the teeth, possibly
then like dot, you know.
Speaker 5: Saw any painting, it was not. There was no effort,
no panting, no normal trod or anything of that. With that.
With that, I don't I don't talk much about the
coyotes even doing much panting or anything. I just remember
them going in the background and trying to there and
visualize and see it. And I saw them went. When
they came, they came out of like I said, they
came out of the graveyard, which, like I say, directly
behind the graveyard was a real large patch of woods
and within a quarter off mile probably down as the river,
which is kind of untouched property and a pretty decent
section of land. And then as soon as you crossed
the river from there was six hundred and fifty acres
of completely untouched. They did. They didn't allow anybody back
in there for a long time. They they finally opened
it up as a wm A six hundred and fifty
acre WMA and that was That was probably ten years later,
but they kept everybody out for a long time.
Speaker 6: If you don't mind, I'd like to We're coming up
on an hour.
Speaker 2: We can go over a little bit because Wallas and
I went went a little long talk about our stuff,
but I wanted to switch gears.
Speaker 6: A little bit and go over to the big guy.
Speaker 2: You told me the first time in our initial conversation
when we the first time we ever spoke on the phone,
told me about something that happened. You're gonna have to
refresh my memory because that's been a little bit about
something underneath the house. There was something found underneath the house,
and I remember that shocked me.
Speaker 6: Could you tell that story please?
Speaker 5: Yes, I will gladly tell this. And this is something
that will be a very interesting spot to maybe investigate.
But this is part of family property. The old house
is a two story old house. It probably would not
be more than eight hundred square feet at the bottom,
but a two story with an equal level upstairs. The
old porch, and you've got to imagine this is an
old home place with a spring head. They don't have
a whale. It goes up a small valley and I say,
up into the left hand is all woods, all back
in behind. It goes straight up a mountain. This this
old home place is a family member's you know, family
grew up there. But I and I grew up there,
and we had black angus cattle grown and raised. You know,
half of them were born and raised there, but they
were my family members were getting older gets made on
them that couldn't get out about like they used to could.
But so we started, you know, coming in doing everything
we could take care of. But we end up having
a eight hundred paint cow go missing, completely missing, and
end up finding it underneath this old house which is
sitting up on rocks. If you know, the old they
didn't have bricks, so it's sitting up on the rock
slash block brick foundation, and the porch would come up.
It comes up, the porch comes out. Imagine, like I say,
basically an eight hundred square foot it will be probably
forty feet long by twenty something feet deep as far
as the main rooms go on the lower level and
the porch comes out with about a ten or twelve
foot front porch, which is about I say chest and
nat kai in that direct along with me, Like I say, be,
I'm five eleven six foot, and it goes all the
way back underneath and it stays too about probably about
hit pie right up underneath the kitchen and drops down
and it goes under pretty well all the way, pretty even.
And we found the remains of this cow all the
way back underneath the kitchen, which would have been no
more than two and a half and three feet.
Speaker 2: And there's eight hundred an eight hundred pound cow underdown.
Speaker 6: We found were dragged underneath the house, would you say.
Speaker 5: The bones and the hide were completely all the way
back in there, and there was not much hide due
to I guess maybe the coots or whatever. But it
got drug under so that would have been by the
time it went under the kitchen, that would have been
a good sixty foot back in and like I say,
it leveled and it evens itself off kind of that
as it goes back. Was one of the weirdest things
I think I ever saw in my life. You know,
we would get phone calls, Hey, the mountain lions are
making racket again. And we would show up, yeah, at
ten o'clock eleven o'clock at night. You'd hear screams of
what would you think would be a mountain lion unless
you knew what a mountain lion sounded like, which was
really weird. And the dogs would either hide under the
aunt and uncle's house until we showed up, or they'd
stay right at the door. And when I say the dogs,
they were reading those pits and they were not scared
of anything. And then there was a bagel mix that
would run all day long, all day until nighttime, and
he'd make sure he's back of the house. And the
weird part about it is back into the left hand
side if you're going back to the do the property
to where the old home place was in the road.
Never really got to venture into that was just always
told niowis two step or you just stay out of there.
Uh you know. That was an animal crossing also by
the way, bear deer everything across. But it was a
very it's also a very dry ridge and a very
dry mountain side up there there until you come down
to this spring head, A good creek, a good spring head.
Speaker 6: This this house that where the cow was found.
Speaker 2: Was it vacant at the time, Was anybody living there?
Speaker 5: Nobody has lived there since the I do believe the
early forties. It was re roofed in the seventies. They
went had to put a metal roof on it. There
were windows in it at once upon a time, but
they kind of ended up, you know, getting knocked out.
Write it out. I'm not one hundred percent sure on that.
There was a muddle roof put on it in the
late seventies and.
Speaker 2: It was guys, try to wrap your head around that
and just think about that for a second. An eight
hundred pound animal. Picture an eight hundred pound cow in
your head right now.
Speaker 6: Underneath the house. The cow wouldn't go underneath the house
on its own, I mean, why would it.
Speaker 2: So an eight hundred pound animal basically was dragged underneath
the house, Well, what could do that?
Speaker 5: That would have been at least forty feet at least
I think forty five feet, probably back to where the
main frame was really sitting. When I say a main frame,
I'm talking spine on rib. Yeah. There were a few
pieces laying around due the coyotes and stuff, but the
main pieces were back underneath were you know, we we
would we could bend over walking in there and then
get to it, and then we'd have to kind of
get down on the hands and knees too to get
to it. And like say, there's there's plenty, plenty of
wildlife in there. And like say when when we used
to get called and say, hey, there's the mountain lion
screaming again up in here, and that was a regular basis,
and you know, to hear D n R say we
don't have mountain lines, but yes, there were mountain lions around,
but they're not going to take that, you know, they're
too busy with the deer and everything else that they
can handle on up the road in old family property.
And we had an injured mountain line and it stole
puppies off my porch. I had puppies. Yeah, I had
three three week before week old puppies and I had
a glass ten porch with the two doors and I
had the one door closed, and the mama dog when
she would get up and wander off, the mountain line
was injured and stole three puppies and ate them and
I came home. Yeah, this this true story. I can
get my mother mother ex to back that up. She'll
tell you. It was on our roof, walking around on
our ceiling, and my dogs were one stupid because they
had a treed on the roof and it was injured
because it had been trying to run calves and a
neighbor had shot it and I was awake. All I
got woke up by the gunshots due to the muzzle
blast coming and basically rattling our windows the way the
ridge ran and mountain lions, they have a whole mother tendency,
but they do things is just a lot more cleaner
and uh, you know, if they're injured, they're going to
hang around. Other than that, you're not gonna see them this.
Speaker 2: We've got a question here from Buddy John another a
fellow member of Manimal Down lived down in Rum, Georgia.
Want to give you a shout out, John has gone.
Buddy wants to know how do we know that the
animal animal was drug under their intact and not dismembered.
So it was a full animal, right, there was a
whole carcass.
Speaker 5: Yet, Yeah, the carcass, the skin, some of the skin,
it was it was under there. It wasn't bits and
pieces of it. This was still in a skeletal frame
other than you know, a leg bone or two here
and there that were within twenty yards of still being
in the old in front of the old home place
and around it, this was a full skeletal like the ribs.
Everything was getting worked on, of course by the other rodents,
But this was a skeletal, a full with part of
the leather and the old black angus hide that was
still there. This wasn't a.
Speaker 2: Bigfoot Sightings were pretty prevalent around this house, right.
Speaker 5: I think there were, you know, like like you before,
I was told no, I could never go venture up
to that left hand side, back on that upper upper.
Speaker 2: And yeah, your family told you never to go around there, right,
We never.
Speaker 5: We never was. Yeah, even my dad and we we
went everywhere. If me and my dad went somewhere, we
went everywhere. And me and my dad never even ventured
up in there. He just said, no, we didn't. My uncle,
we'd always ride around an old tracker. He had Old
four three thousand, that smoked blue.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more, but the big report, We'll be
right back.
Speaker 5: It's crazy, But he had the old he had old
Ford truck bed trailer and he pulled around with the tracker,
and that's what we'd alread hay with and I'd be
back in the old trailer, you know, and we never
I was always told never to go up in there
anywhere else I always went.
Speaker 6: Did they ever tell you why.
Speaker 5: Other than other than it was just too much wildlife.
That's where the barrack trails and everything else came down.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: But when but when we showed up, you know, at
ten o'clock at night a few times when it comes
to me and my dad show up, you know, we're
to hear the mountain lions screaming. They would they would
be screaming. And that's where it'd be coming from, back
up in that whole the whole side of that ridge,
back in there. Like I say, when when you're looking
at this this property and you come into the house,
the house be on the right hand side. It's not
far off the road. It's just a couple, uh maybe
fifty yards off the road. It would you know, you
you start facing back in, like I say, imagine it
as a try as a triangle, and you're looking back
in and it would be to the to the far
end of that peak where you know, back in, like
I say, behind the high out the old home place
and the old spring heat and back up into that
left hand side. It's just one place. Never got to
venture every to that. I've been everywhere boom and and
above and around by the old road, you know, been
back in and above it, but never have got to
venture into that left hand corner up in there. And
it's weird because I've always got every time we walked
out the old road that veers back around to the
right and it goes back into the old home place.
You all always feel like being watched. Yeah, and uh,
even even me and my buddies when we were younger,
we used to go back in their lot after the
cattle and everything had to get rid of the cows.
Everything just nobody could keep up with them, and so
ended up selling all the cattle off. We tried to
keep everything bushogged, you know, back as we could. There's
a few other people deer hunt on back end, like say,
to the right hand side, and I don't know that
they go into that little left hand corner. Be interesting
to find out why they don't. I've never saw I've
never actually got to venture into that out of all
my life and uh, my grandmother had a few interesting
stories about going out the old road and then crossing
what was the highway going to her grandmother's house. And
then my great uncle, you know, he always had interesting
stories to tell about a lot of things that he
had speculation on. Now he rode, you know, he had
to ride a horse to town, you know, to go
to work at the mule back in the you know,
thirties and forties in his you know, in his day,
his military days. And now they rode horse to town
to you know, go to work. And he had quite
a few interesting stories.
Speaker 2: Now whether yeah, this is a duke from World Bigfoot
Radio says Bigfoot are known for stashing any sized carcass
under things as well, like root systems under huge trees.
One guy found a bull moose under a fallen trees
root system on a river bank, not bear activity. So that, yeah,
let's tell you something, man, They're known for.
Speaker 5: I believe that. I do. I really do believe that.
And then where I when I grew up on down
in what they call the the Valley. I'm not going to,
you know, completely name everything, but you know, I've had
a lot of interesting activity going on on down in
the valley. Yeah, up at my horse and my dogs
and everything. And I never really thought anything about it.
I just let my dogs do what they did. And
then my horse whenever she whenever I've been trying to
go down a trail and this this animal. Uh, she
was a very intelligent horse. She was what I call
a lead horse. She was a boss mayor. She didn't
fear anything.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: She would run a coyote down with me on her
back if they like come out of the trail and
try to stomp them. Snakes she did the same thing too.
She was very aggressive. But she was like say, she
was a applosa and quarter horse, and they say I
app horse and quarter horses by half rosy. But that
was one of the best horses I ever had my life.
But she would stop, she would lay her ears flat
down and stop and spin. And when she would spin,
she was spinning like she was trying to cut cut
a horse, you know, cut a cow out or something.
Because I worked with catle a little bit. And she
would go ahead and back out and spin around again
to take a look after she got twenty or thirty
feet away. And she would do it so fast sometimes,
you know, I'd be all relaxed, sitting there, just riding
and enjoying the pine thicket or whatever, and she would
I'd wash her ears, go down, and I knew I
had to grab a hold of something, and she would spin,
and my dog would even go with the horse, and
my dog would be acting curious, and then we'd just
go on, you know, go on through the woods another
way like nothing ever happened. And I never put it
in the thought of but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's so much out there, you know, looking
back in life that for me anyway, looking back, things
that I remember happening to me as a kid in
the woods that I couldn't really understand that that makes
makes sense now. But but we're we're at an hour
and fifteen minutes, so we're gonna need to cut it
off right here. Anybody, I appreciate you coming on. We've
been talking for a little bit. Glad we finally got
you on.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna seriously see you know, if I can get
a chance, I'm gonna go by and talk, like say,
talked to the old neighbor and everything, and maybe he
was a great guy and he's got more stories to it.
Like I say, the great grandmother. I'd like to, you know,
spend that part too, but I need to get a
little more information on that. She had a pretty well
face to face and supposedly shot something, you know, with
a four teen shotgun when she was doing something. But
I need to get a little more info on that.
And I could feel a lot more information in if
I can get in touch with you know, this fell.
I just haven't had a chance to go by and
see him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds awesome, man. You get in touch with
get in touch with them, start to fill in, you know,
some of the gaps, and we'll have you back on
to UH to fill it in, and then we'll all
get together and go on the expedition.
Speaker 6: We'll have some more to talk about. But yeah, I
appreciate you coming on, buddy.
Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate it very much. I may I may
have a few more. Got a few more things I
like with you about too. It's kind of a weird.
It'd be a quick conversation, but it was. It was
a weird, But I share that with you. Also, I
think it's more doll Man related not And like I say,
still not one hundred percent sure. I think something saved
me that evening and the Savior was a you know, uh,
couple of other people showing up. It's pretty very It's
a very interesting evening.
Speaker 6: But okay, yeah, we'll talk about that next time too, buddy.
Speaker 5: All Right, Well, y'all have a good evening, and I
appreciate the time y'all. I've enjoyed it very much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have too, and we will be in touch, buddy,
looking forward to to making our own stories with you.
Speaker 6: We'll get together, son.
Speaker 5: That sounds good to me, all right, thank you'all.
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Speaker 3: Through the woods, the pine trees, sway, shadows long at
end of day, Bigfoots call on the whispering secrets kept
by ancient dreams. Dog Man house beneath the moon echoes
in the silent dune tracks weave fine, but answers none.
A hunt for truth, that's just begune. We're searching past
the fire light. Four creatures hidden out of sight in
the forest. Hardware shadows lay seeking seecrets in the twilight.
Through the fall, a shape did g lie skin walker
eyes show wide legends of Oh we chase to night
in the dark. Our lanterns bright by the creek, quil
water spill whispers rye, the windsow chill full of steep
man tails on toll in this land, the myths of O.
We're searching past.
Speaker 5: The fire light.
Speaker 3: Full creatures hidden out of sight in the forest heart,
where shadows lay, seeking seacrets in the twilight
Speaker 5: In