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Speaker 1: And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually

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claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,

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come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There

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is no such thing as an expert when it comes

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to bigfoot.

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Speaker 2: They know in an instant that you were in the woods.

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Speaker 3: There is no hiding from them, There is no being

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quiet or.

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Speaker 4: Sneaking up on them.

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Speaker 5: As soon as you walk in the woods, you walk

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in their front door, thinking that you are going to

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surprise them. You're only kidding yourself.

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Speaker 1: We have got to get out of our heads that

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anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in my opinion,

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that we have to learn about these creatures right now

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is by listening to and talking to those that have

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experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and experienced them

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in their own environment.

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Speaker 2: We do what we do to try to bring away

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in as f this topic to be an open door

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for somebody to walk through, to be able to share

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their story, a listening.

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Speaker 5: Here, a support pold for those who have held their

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own encounters with that which is not supposed to exist.

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Speaker 1: We've got to open our eyes people, there is something

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out there. All of these thousands of people that have

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seen something. They're not all lined, they're not all crazy.

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There are some very reputable, good people out there that

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have seen something.

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Speaker 2: Welcome a new member to Manimal Research, our investigation team,

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a new researcher to our team. He is from Georgia

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and Northeast Georgia in South Carolina, both right on the line.

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He's gonna be working in both those areas. And uh,

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he's gonna come on and talk about some some bigfoot

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stuff tonight. But one of the things that he wants

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to talk about and what we're going to talk about

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for a good bit is his experience with dog Man

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and he had an encounter and he knows he has

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some family members that had an encounter, but he actually

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had a visual of this thing. And he's gonna come

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on and give the backstory to that and then give

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his encounter and got time after that, Well, we'll talk

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about some bigfoot. But I do want to welcome and

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I hope everyone will give give Kenny a warm welcome

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and just welcome to the to the family, to the group.

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With all that being said, let's bring him on up there.

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He is, how's it going, buddy?

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Speaker 5: Well, Hey, what's going on with I Llosa. Been a

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great interesting show, been very interesting, very intrigued.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were supposed to come out with us, but

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we weren't able to make it.

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Speaker 6: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 5: Now it turned out to be a bad weekend truck

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set me down, so I couldn't couldn't make it. But yeah, yeah,

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well we greaty for Coop.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's sure would have.

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Speaker 2: We tipped up a lot of time talking about this,

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this expedition.

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Speaker 6: So we're going to get right into it.

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Speaker 2: And I talked to you before we came on and

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told you that that we'd start talking about this dog

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man encounter first.

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Speaker 6: We'll open up the interview with that.

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Speaker 2: So with that being said, I'm going to you know,

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hand the floor to you and just take it from

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there and walk us into get as much detail as

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you can.

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Speaker 6: Okay, buddy, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well back in uh it would have been probably

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early spring. It had been two thousand. I do believe

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had some issues going on on the farm. It was

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actually my in laws property and the neighbor's property.

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Speaker 6: Uh, just in North Georgia.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're in northeast Georgia, far far northeast corner of Georgia.

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Could have you know, we we thought, okay, it could

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have been whatever. But then the great grandmother or would

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have been well grandmother in law. She had other other

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stories to tell. And she had raised baby goats, and

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so did the neighbor and they raised boar goats, registered

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board goats, beautiful little boar goats, but you know how

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aggravating goats can be. Also at the same time, but

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he also he had horses, and he had a few

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head of cattle and everything. But throughout the time she

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always liked to, uh, you know, nurse and raise little

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infants and things that mother wouldn't take care of. She

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worked for the forestry service, the grandmother did, and she'd

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had a few, you know, a few stories to tell

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which will tie all into the long of this where

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the actual happening everything happened. That was all within a

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quarter mile really of this property. It's it's a beautiful

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little area. It's maybe a half mile off of the

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Chattahoochee River, I guess if you go direct, but it's

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over a ridge. The Chattahoochie goes through a valley down

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in Blow and it's it was all woods. There is

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a neighborhood back in there, which is another long story

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that I did a lot of work in too. And

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A which is six hundred and fifty acres, And this

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neighborhood is a gated community that I did work on

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back in ninety six and ninety seven. I was probably

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was into property developments and a few of the things,

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and with a few other friends, but all woods, all river.

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not supposed to be over in that area unless they

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were either directly related to, you know, working in that area,

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or property owners amongst that area. And it all started

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though I think it was two thousand, and had been

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in two thousand, it would have been probably October to November.

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fences on both sides for at least three hundred yards

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because it was all pasture. Now to our right as

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we pull out is the neighbor's property, which he had

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had like I said, he had the full registered board goats,

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and he'd had property damaged, and he had also had

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goats missing, and his his dogs. I mean, we rely

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on dogs a lot, you know, when we're farming that

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the dogs let us know if there's something messing around.

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going wide open, and they would only go and let

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him know so much. Well, he did not lose anything

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for the little bit that I was there. This was

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within the six month period. But his animals were scared.

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ex wife, she was pregnant with my daughter at the time,

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pulled out, we went as soon as we went past

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maybe a quarter mile coming out of the graveyard to

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our left, in a church on our right, and you

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got to think this is all in a triangle period.

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It was foggy. The coats started across the road. I

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slowed down. Now I'm in a Bronco two. It was

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an old eighty seven model, I think it was, but

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it was sitting up on a three inch lift with

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brush guard.

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Speaker 5: This huge wolf basically guarded. Stopped on the double yellow

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line and stopped and let these coyotes eight to twelve

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pass and looked at us as if it dared us

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to come any closer. And it was me, my ex wife,

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and a friend of mine that had been a friend

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of mine since we were twelve years old, and I

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stopped the bronco looked dead at it, and we all stared,

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and this thing stared at us. It seemed like it

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was at least thirty seconds to a minute, and it

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probably was close to fifteen seconds. And it was huge.

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standing on two?

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Speaker 5: It was on all fours at that time. But it

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dared us with everything it had, I guess for as

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eyesight goes, and it basically dared us to, you know,

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basically come on. And I sat there with it. Well

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soon as the about the eighth or there was somewhere

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about eight to twelve coyotes across. I lost track of

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that because I was too busy looking at how big

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he was. And when I say big, he would have

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came up nine five eleven, he would have come up

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to my chest, which come up to about where the

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top of the brush guard would have came up to

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on my Bronco too, and so he would have been

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four feet at his back, and he was a dirty mange,

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kind of a dirty mange, tan and gray. But like

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I say, the weirdest part when I really put it together,

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was that he came out along with the kyoties out

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of like say, a graveyard. But if you dropped straight

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off the backside of that graveyard, the river in the

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woods go straight on down. That was very weird, you know.

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Speaker 2: Can you can you describe a little bit for for

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everybody that's that's watching us, what exactly he looked like

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and what what makes you what told you that this

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was a dog man or something like that, other than

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just a weird looking coyote, since it was with the coyotes,

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what tells you that it was something different?

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Speaker 5: He was twice to full time, probably really four times

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the size, and and me, being a bad judge of

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character of weight, probably would say he was two hundred

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and fifty to four feet in the range. He never

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he never pulled like completely sideways. He turned his head.

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you know, like plot hounds and a German shepherd cross

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at the same time or as a head goes. He

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he had a huge head on him. That would have

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you know dwarfed a good good sized German shepherd and

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a plot hand. He was you know, his head was

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twice the size and he looked kind of mangy but

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muscled out at the same time. So, I mean it

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was a very weird his his back was kind of arched. Also,

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uh didn't didn't really see much of a tail. I

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don't remember. I don't recall still to this day, said

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much of a tale.

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Speaker 6: Well what did what.

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Speaker 2: Did Janie tell us about the tails on these things?

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Speaker 6: He said?

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Speaker 2: And when they're a pupp they have tails, but as

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they get older they don't lose the tails, but they

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kind of retract in. They don't really have a tail

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as an adult. If I remember that, if I remember

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so you you don't remember much of a tail.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, now I was fixed and explain that

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if you if you're saying you know how say red

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hailer Australian shepherd holds their tail, they hold it in

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and so you might just see a little tip come

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out or a little bit, but you don't other than that,

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you really don't see it until there until their full

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fledged may be running and they point, they point with

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their tail, or they'll use their tail for I guess

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weight maybe, or I just I don't recall seeing a tail.

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I looked. I was so focused and enamored with the

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size and the look of this thing.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, while we're looking up on on legends of

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ending uh my engine an Indian heritage over here about

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something running with that which it's in the folk lord,

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it's supposed to be a couti king. But the description

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for a coyote king is like it has a tail.

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As you're describing this thing, this thing possibly doesn't have tail.

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The dog men I don't supposed to have tails during

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the pup, So I think he's got a tiding man.

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I think he got a class as sign of a

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poss of a dog man.

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Speaker 5: But that praise.

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Speaker 4: The question is why was it running with couties. That's

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what's unless it was raised by them or something as

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Speaker 2: And then here's your question from mister Mercedes from Mercedes

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gemin is, did you see the snout or the nose

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and it's so described it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and and the snout and nose were not of

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a German shepherd nor of what I would consider a

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big blockheaded plot hound. It was kind of in between. No,

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just a large, large muzzle.

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Speaker 5: It had. It had the length about twice the length

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and a block muzzle more like a like I said,

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maybe a pit or a plot hand. It was a

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law urge. And when I say lords, it would have

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it wouldn't. It wouldn't have been probably, you know, six

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or eight inches would have been probably the estimation on.

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Speaker 2: One of our One of our regulars here, mister crave

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Dog says he's heard a few stories of dog men

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running with coyotes, so that that's cool.

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Speaker 6: Thanks, thanks crave Man.

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Speaker 4: I kind of answer my question.

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Speaker 5: Kind to this day, think that they will use coyotes

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because oaks can maybe help them when they're young and

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they maybe they don't have a pack of their own,

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and kyotes, you know, they will coyotes will take up

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with the dogs, you know, they'll take up with diamonds

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depends on who's feeding them and who who dominates. M h.

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They're you know, they're they can adapt to anything in everywhere.

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And that's that's kind of my theory on that.

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Speaker 2: You said that you're about five or eleven and this

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thing on all fours, you would guess would come up

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to around.

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Speaker 5: Your chest, right, it would have came up to it

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would have been a good four feet tall.

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Speaker 6: The back would have come up to your your chest.

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Speaker 5: The box, the back would have came up to my chest.

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Speaker 6: It Now, guys, I have I have a great dame.

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Speaker 2: Uh he's about two hundred pounds almost well, as you've

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seen him. You seen how big my dog is. My

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dog's massive, he's huge. He comes up to about my

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waist and I'm six foot tall, so where about the

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same height. And this dog, my dog comes up to

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my waist. So if you're talking about one that comes

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up to your chest, that's just that's terrifying.

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Speaker 4: And besides, that's the same hous as my life.

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Speaker 6: She's four eleven.

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Speaker 2: And if my dog is almost two hundred pounds, you

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might not you might not be wrong if you say

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four hundred pounds.

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Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, I guess themated looking in just because

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of the way his back was arched, when the way

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he was sitting. But you know that. Here's the other

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interesting is he had been shot quite a few times.

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The he he had came in and you know, it

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came in on goats, and the neighbor that owned the

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goats had actually shot this thing. And we looked and

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here's the crazy part. He shot this thing at probably

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I think seventy five yards by the way, we guestimated before.

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Speaker 2: Your uncle you're talking about and you were telling me about, No,

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this is a neighbor.

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Speaker 5: This is a neighbor of mine. Okay, this is this

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was an old neighbor. This is an ex this is

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my in law ex in laws, and this is their farm,

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their property. Uh. This this gentleman's into you know, big

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into his roping horses and cutting and all that. But

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you know he's got a beautiful little small farms, not huge.

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I think they may have maybe eighty acres. My ex

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mother in law actually she sold her property to him,

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and she's decided she wants to travel. Now. I was

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trying to get in touch with him other than just

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going knocking on his door. I didn't get a straight

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answer when I was trying to, you know, figure out

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more thing about you know, what really happened, because it's

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been on my mind for years, even talking with my

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ex wife, Me and her every hardly ever talk, but

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I asked her about it just out of the blue

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and she's like, yeah, I remember that.

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Speaker 3: So it was.

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Speaker 5: It was kind of an odd situation. But there was

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one night though this was during all that he called,

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or there was there was a phone I think it

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was Mama called, which was a great grandmother and grandma.

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Then Donnie was out. We were inside the house, which

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we were probably one hundred it's about one hundred and

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fifty yards, trying to trying to try to imagine like

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a triangle. Say, we were at the point and of

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the triangle on on the far end you're looking up,

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and his goats got herded in. Now he had sectioned

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off pastures.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more. But the big flip report, we'll

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be right back.

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Speaker 5: And he came out and he shot this thing. I

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heard the noise, the racket. There was a bush line

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and that's when we went. I heard and I saw

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the figure of this thing and a few of the coyoties.

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But I had to get on over the bushline and

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the fence, and by then it was kind of too late.

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We met up, we followed a blood trail, and it

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just stopped completely. There was a dead goat damn near

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decapitated where he had hold up by the back of

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the neck, and the coyotes everything left. But when he

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had the spotlight on it, I saw it from the

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back porch through the bushes and it was the big boy,

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and and we we went probably one hundred to one

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hundred and seventy five yards, and all of a sudden

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there was no blood trail.

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Speaker 4: Again than did you uh with the sight? And did

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did this thing when it got shot?

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Speaker 5: Did it make it?

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Speaker 4: Did it make a uh any kind of thing like

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off top of laughing or it sound like a coyote laughing?

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Or did you hear anything when it got shot? I

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mean usually the dog gets shot. It usually yeps.

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Speaker 5: It made some racket, but it didn't last very long.

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He said it was a gut shot, side shot. He

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just shot on it. Okay, Yeah, I came out with

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a rifle. All I had was a twenty two magg

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It's best I had, as it, Like I said, was

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it in laws? But when we followed it, it didn't

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last long. It was a one hundred two. Maybe I'm trying.

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I'm trying to remember the distance between there, and all

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of a sudden it just pretty well stopped. And this

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was through an open field, and we're probably maybe thirty

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yards on the fence line. It goes into a whole

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nother little wooded and fenced area. Not not too sure

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about that area over there. Never actually walked around it.

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Speaker 2: But Mercedes Jiminez has another question for you. Do his

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legs look human? And I seen a picture of one

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that looked human with paws.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't really think his his the back legs,

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be honest with you. I was too busy looking at

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the front side, and don't recall much about the paws.

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I looked like basically at a dog, at a huge dog.

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Speaker 6: Kay.

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Speaker 5: Other than they, I didn't. I don't recall a tail.

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I remember the back being arched, but don't don't recall

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anything much more than seeing a dog. It's just the

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fact that they were. They were a little It was

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a tannish gray, like a dark dingy brown slash. It

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was a it was a dirty look, I mean, just

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like flat out dirty almost. I mean kind of like

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it had been rolling in the red clay and then

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maybe finding some pluff mud or something to play in.

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I don't. And that's and like I say when I say,

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look dingy, that was probably the path, the dirt and

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the mud on its fur. But it was from the

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side I saw, and the stance it took it me

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and the vehicle.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was just it was a dingy.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Now you had made the comment that it had been

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shot a few times? Could you tell by looking at

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it that it had been injured before?

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Speaker 5: Maybe by the arch of its back, maybe the way

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it was carrying itself. But like I say one night,

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when I say that it stood in its back and

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that wasn't you know, including the arch of his back.

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The arch of his back was probably eight inches over,

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which would have come up a little bit over, you

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know the brush guard. Brother than that. The shoulder stance

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that it had it was leaving it was at least

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four foot, So.

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Speaker 6: It's like a hunt back. Would you would you say that?

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Speaker 5: Or if y'all ever saw a dog or a bear,

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If you're a bear, that's that's full Or a dog

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how they how they'll carry theirself. They'll they'll arch their

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back because they got like a hookworm and they're carry themself.

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Kind of funny, okay when when like when they see

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when they carry there and it may have been eat

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up with hook worms. I mean yeah, I don't know,

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but it was still pretty healthy. But it just looked

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kind of mangy to me in a sense. But it

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was still a large muscular all.

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Speaker 6: Right, man, that.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy crazy crazy signing. It looks it sounds like you, uh,

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you got a pretty good look at one. How far

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away were you.

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Speaker 5: By the time I actually stopped the vehicle. I never

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got over probably like twenty five mile an hour within

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that probably a quarter mile range. It was. It wasn't

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for it. It was pretty foggy, kind of just drifts

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a fog. It had been raining a little bit. It's

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getting in the folly here, I don't know. You know

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how the mountains go. You get back to the fog

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and all of a sudden it's kind of clear. And

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it was just in one of those clear so we

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were probably maybe eighty tow one hundred feet away. It

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wasn't It was not very far, and I had bright lights,

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like I say, K S lights. I had k S lights.

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If y'all remember what the old k SEA lights are

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right there, they're kind of getting faded out now, they

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used to be. They used to be that on the

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brush guard and all that. I had the k S lights.

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I had my bright lights, and I also, you know,

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like they have my Max wife, she shed probably talk

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about it, but it scares her and she freaks out

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about it. And then I have a friend of mine

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I haven't Me and him have only mentioned it two

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or three times out of probably twenty years. I actually

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haven't got talked to him about it, but he would

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be an interesting, you know, conversation I have with it

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because he's a very detail oriented person, and he was

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back then probably a little more detail origa than I was.

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Because I'm thinking, we need to go get baby for

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me from Walmart that night. That's the only reason we

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were leaving now, and he was he had a bunch

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of construction going on in his home and was just

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kind of hanging out with us and needed a need

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a place to stay, and we were all having a

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decent little cookout. He was a real good friend of

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mine and still is to this day.

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Speaker 2: But so there was three of you in the car

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and all three of you saw this thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all three of us all sit there and stared

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at it.

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Speaker 6: That's something out there.

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Speaker 2: It's not just one person claiming to see something.

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Speaker 6: You had three adults that saw.

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Speaker 2: The same thing, and we're all shaken up by it.

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So that in itself says something.

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Speaker 4: Did you happen to see possibly if it was painting

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then or possibly got a glimpse of the teeth, possibly

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then like dot, you know.

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Speaker 5: Saw any painting, it was not. There was no effort,

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no panting, no normal trod or anything of that. With that.

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With that, I don't I don't talk much about the

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coyotes even doing much panting or anything. I just remember

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them going in the background and trying to there and

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visualize and see it. And I saw them went. When

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they came, they came out of like I said, they

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came out of the graveyard, which, like I say, directly

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behind the graveyard was a real large patch of woods

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and within a quarter off mile probably down as the river,

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which is kind of untouched property and a pretty decent

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section of land. And then as soon as you crossed

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the river from there was six hundred and fifty acres

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of completely untouched. They did. They didn't allow anybody back

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in there for a long time. They they finally opened

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it up as a wm A six hundred and fifty

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acre WMA and that was That was probably ten years later,

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but they kept everybody out for a long time.

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Speaker 6: If you don't mind, I'd like to We're coming up

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on an hour.

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Speaker 2: We can go over a little bit because Wallas and

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I went went a little long talk about our stuff,

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but I wanted to switch gears.

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Speaker 6: A little bit and go over to the big guy.

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Speaker 2: You told me the first time in our initial conversation

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when we the first time we ever spoke on the phone,

479
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told me about something that happened. You're gonna have to

480
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,519
refresh my memory because that's been a little bit about

481
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,640
something underneath the house. There was something found underneath the house,

482
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:50,200
and I remember that shocked me.

483
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:53,319
Speaker 6: Could you tell that story please?

484
00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:57,839
Speaker 5: Yes, I will gladly tell this. And this is something

485
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,759
that will be a very interesting spot to maybe investigate.

486
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,599
But this is part of family property. The old house

487
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:12,880
is a two story old house. It probably would not

488
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:15,799
be more than eight hundred square feet at the bottom,

489
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,400
but a two story with an equal level upstairs. The

490
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:24,200
old porch, and you've got to imagine this is an

491
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,319
old home place with a spring head. They don't have

492
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:34,960
a whale. It goes up a small valley and I say,

493
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,920
up into the left hand is all woods, all back

494
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,839
in behind. It goes straight up a mountain. This this

495
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,240
old home place is a family member's you know, family

496
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:48,960
grew up there. But I and I grew up there,

497
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:54,720
and we had black angus cattle grown and raised. You know,

498
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,640
half of them were born and raised there, but they

499
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,000
were my family members were getting older gets made on

500
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:06,039
them that couldn't get out about like they used to could.

501
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,920
But so we started, you know, coming in doing everything

502
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,839
we could take care of. But we end up having

503
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:17,720
a eight hundred paint cow go missing, completely missing, and

504
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:23,440
end up finding it underneath this old house which is

505
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,079
sitting up on rocks. If you know, the old they

506
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,640
didn't have bricks, so it's sitting up on the rock

507
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:35,319
slash block brick foundation, and the porch would come up.

508
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,880
It comes up, the porch comes out. Imagine, like I say,

509
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,920
basically an eight hundred square foot it will be probably

510
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,759
forty feet long by twenty something feet deep as far

511
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:50,400
as the main rooms go on the lower level and

512
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:53,200
the porch comes out with about a ten or twelve

513
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,960
foot front porch, which is about I say chest and

514
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,039
nat kai in that direct along with me, Like I say, be,

515
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,200
I'm five eleven six foot, and it goes all the

516
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:12,559
way back underneath and it stays too about probably about

517
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,920
hit pie right up underneath the kitchen and drops down

518
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,279
and it goes under pretty well all the way, pretty even.

519
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,559
And we found the remains of this cow all the

520
00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:29,200
way back underneath the kitchen, which would have been no

521
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:31,799
more than two and a half and three feet.

522
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: And there's eight hundred an eight hundred pound cow underdown.

523
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 6: We found were dragged underneath the house, would you say.

524
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 5: The bones and the hide were completely all the way

525
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:55,240
back in there, and there was not much hide due

526
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:58,039
to I guess maybe the coots or whatever. But it

527
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,000
got drug under so that would have been by the

528
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:03,920
time it went under the kitchen, that would have been

529
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,160
a good sixty foot back in and like I say,

530
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:10,079
it leveled and it evens itself off kind of that

531
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,480
as it goes back. Was one of the weirdest things

532
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:17,359
I think I ever saw in my life. You know,

533
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:20,680
we would get phone calls, Hey, the mountain lions are

534
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,359
making racket again. And we would show up, yeah, at

535
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:29,519
ten o'clock eleven o'clock at night. You'd hear screams of

536
00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:31,759
what would you think would be a mountain lion unless

537
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:34,960
you knew what a mountain lion sounded like, which was

538
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:41,200
really weird. And the dogs would either hide under the

539
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,319
aunt and uncle's house until we showed up, or they'd

540
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:47,720
stay right at the door. And when I say the dogs,

541
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:52,079
they were reading those pits and they were not scared

542
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:55,960
of anything. And then there was a bagel mix that

543
00:33:56,039 --> 00:34:00,559
would run all day long, all day until nighttime, and

544
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,319
he'd make sure he's back of the house. And the

545
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,119
weird part about it is back into the left hand

546
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,280
side if you're going back to the do the property

547
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,519
to where the old home place was in the road.

548
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,679
Never really got to venture into that was just always

549
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,159
told niowis two step or you just stay out of there.

550
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,440
Uh you know. That was an animal crossing also by

551
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,559
the way, bear deer everything across. But it was a

552
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,280
very it's also a very dry ridge and a very

553
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,039
dry mountain side up there there until you come down

554
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:39,039
to this spring head, A good creek, a good spring head.

555
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,079
Speaker 6: This this house that where the cow was found.

556
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 2: Was it vacant at the time, Was anybody living there?

557
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 5: Nobody has lived there since the I do believe the

558
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:58,000
early forties. It was re roofed in the seventies. They

559
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,400
went had to put a metal roof on it. There

560
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,239
were windows in it at once upon a time, but

561
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,800
they kind of ended up, you know, getting knocked out.

562
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,199
Write it out. I'm not one hundred percent sure on that.

563
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:14,039
There was a muddle roof put on it in the

564
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:15,519
late seventies and.

565
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: It was guys, try to wrap your head around that

566
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,400
and just think about that for a second. An eight

567
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:26,519
hundred pound animal. Picture an eight hundred pound cow in

568
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:27,519
your head right now.

569
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 6: Underneath the house. The cow wouldn't go underneath the house

570
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,920
on its own, I mean, why would it.

571
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: So an eight hundred pound animal basically was dragged underneath

572
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,079
the house, Well, what could do that?

573
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 5: That would have been at least forty feet at least

574
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,679
I think forty five feet, probably back to where the

575
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,719
main frame was really sitting. When I say a main frame,

576
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,159
I'm talking spine on rib. Yeah. There were a few

577
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:07,039
pieces laying around due the coyotes and stuff, but the

578
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:15,159
main pieces were back underneath were you know, we we

579
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:20,800
would we could bend over walking in there and then

580
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,239
get to it, and then we'd have to kind of

581
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,079
get down on the hands and knees too to get

582
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:29,960
to it. And like say, there's there's plenty, plenty of

583
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:34,199
wildlife in there. And like say when when we used

584
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,559
to get called and say, hey, there's the mountain lion

585
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:41,400
screaming again up in here, and that was a regular basis,

586
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,960
and you know, to hear D n R say we

587
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:48,639
don't have mountain lines, but yes, there were mountain lions around,

588
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,480
but they're not going to take that, you know, they're

589
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,239
too busy with the deer and everything else that they

590
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,760
can handle on up the road in old family property.

591
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,760
And we had an injured mountain line and it stole

592
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,719
puppies off my porch. I had puppies. Yeah, I had

593
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,519
three three week before week old puppies and I had

594
00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:14,280
a glass ten porch with the two doors and I

595
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,840
had the one door closed, and the mama dog when

596
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,679
she would get up and wander off, the mountain line

597
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,679
was injured and stole three puppies and ate them and

598
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,480
I came home. Yeah, this this true story. I can

599
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:31,599
get my mother mother ex to back that up. She'll

600
00:37:31,639 --> 00:37:34,800
tell you. It was on our roof, walking around on

601
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,320
our ceiling, and my dogs were one stupid because they

602
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,239
had a treed on the roof and it was injured

603
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,320
because it had been trying to run calves and a

604
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,079
neighbor had shot it and I was awake. All I

605
00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:52,039
got woke up by the gunshots due to the muzzle

606
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:56,079
blast coming and basically rattling our windows the way the

607
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:03,400
ridge ran and mountain lions, they have a whole mother tendency,

608
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:06,559
but they do things is just a lot more cleaner

609
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,760
and uh, you know, if they're injured, they're going to

610
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,199
hang around. Other than that, you're not gonna see them this.

611
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:17,079
Speaker 2: We've got a question here from Buddy John another a

612
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:20,880
fellow member of Manimal Down lived down in Rum, Georgia.

613
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,880
Want to give you a shout out, John has gone.

614
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,559
Buddy wants to know how do we know that the

615
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:31,840
animal animal was drug under their intact and not dismembered.

616
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:36,079
So it was a full animal, right, there was a

617
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:37,280
whole carcass.

618
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 5: Yet, Yeah, the carcass, the skin, some of the skin,

619
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,639
it was it was under there. It wasn't bits and

620
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,559
pieces of it. This was still in a skeletal frame

621
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:50,639
other than you know, a leg bone or two here

622
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:54,280
and there that were within twenty yards of still being

623
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,519
in the old in front of the old home place

624
00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:03,800
and around it, this was a full skeletal like the ribs.

625
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,639
Everything was getting worked on, of course by the other rodents,

626
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,679
But this was a skeletal, a full with part of

627
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,480
the leather and the old black angus hide that was

628
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,000
still there. This wasn't a.

629
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: Bigfoot Sightings were pretty prevalent around this house, right.

630
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 5: I think there were, you know, like like you before,

631
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,400
I was told no, I could never go venture up

632
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,719
to that left hand side, back on that upper upper.

633
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: And yeah, your family told you never to go around there, right,

634
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,119
We never.

635
00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 5: We never was. Yeah, even my dad and we we

636
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:46,360
went everywhere. If me and my dad went somewhere, we

637
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,400
went everywhere. And me and my dad never even ventured

638
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,360
up in there. He just said, no, we didn't. My uncle,

639
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:57,000
we'd always ride around an old tracker. He had Old

640
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,960
four three thousand, that smoked blue.

641
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more, but the big report, We'll be

642
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:04,840
right back.

643
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,199
Speaker 5: It's crazy, But he had the old he had old

644
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:14,239
Ford truck bed trailer and he pulled around with the tracker,

645
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,000
and that's what we'd alread hay with and I'd be

646
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:18,519
back in the old trailer, you know, and we never

647
00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:21,559
I was always told never to go up in there

648
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,239
anywhere else I always went.

649
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,559
Speaker 6: Did they ever tell you why.

650
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,119
Speaker 5: Other than other than it was just too much wildlife.

651
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,400
That's where the barrack trails and everything else came down.

652
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:34,639
Speaker 6: Now.

653
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 5: But when but when we showed up, you know, at

654
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:42,280
ten o'clock at night a few times when it comes

655
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,480
to me and my dad show up, you know, we're

656
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:50,840
to hear the mountain lions screaming. They would they would

657
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,320
be screaming. And that's where it'd be coming from, back

658
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,440
up in that whole the whole side of that ridge,

659
00:40:55,519 --> 00:40:58,159
back in there. Like I say, when when you're looking

660
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,920
at this this property and you come into the house,

661
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,960
the house be on the right hand side. It's not

662
00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:07,920
far off the road. It's just a couple, uh maybe

663
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:12,960
fifty yards off the road. It would you know, you

664
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:15,239
you start facing back in, like I say, imagine it

665
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,320
as a try as a triangle, and you're looking back

666
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,119
in and it would be to the to the far

667
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,840
end of that peak where you know, back in, like

668
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,000
I say, behind the high out the old home place

669
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:33,239
and the old spring heat and back up into that

670
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,000
left hand side. It's just one place. Never got to

671
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:40,679
venture every to that. I've been everywhere boom and and

672
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,039
above and around by the old road, you know, been

673
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:46,960
back in and above it, but never have got to

674
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:50,880
venture into that left hand corner up in there. And

675
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,800
it's weird because I've always got every time we walked

676
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,559
out the old road that veers back around to the

677
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:59,159
right and it goes back into the old home place.

678
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:03,559
You all always feel like being watched. Yeah, and uh,

679
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,159
even even me and my buddies when we were younger,

680
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,679
we used to go back in their lot after the

681
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,000
cattle and everything had to get rid of the cows.

682
00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:15,840
Everything just nobody could keep up with them, and so

683
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,239
ended up selling all the cattle off. We tried to

684
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,599
keep everything bushogged, you know, back as we could. There's

685
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:25,719
a few other people deer hunt on back end, like say,

686
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,679
to the right hand side, and I don't know that

687
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,320
they go into that little left hand corner. Be interesting

688
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,599
to find out why they don't. I've never saw I've

689
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:43,400
never actually got to venture into that out of all

690
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:49,440
my life and uh, my grandmother had a few interesting

691
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:52,599
stories about going out the old road and then crossing

692
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:57,519
what was the highway going to her grandmother's house. And

693
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:02,519
then my great uncle, you know, he always had interesting

694
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,960
stories to tell about a lot of things that he

695
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:12,280
had speculation on. Now he rode, you know, he had

696
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,159
to ride a horse to town, you know, to go

697
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,280
to work at the mule back in the you know,

698
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,199
thirties and forties in his you know, in his day,

699
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:25,639
his military days. And now they rode horse to town

700
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,119
to you know, go to work. And he had quite

701
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:33,239
a few interesting stories.

702
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: Now whether yeah, this is a duke from World Bigfoot

703
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,000
Radio says Bigfoot are known for stashing any sized carcass

704
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:46,360
under things as well, like root systems under huge trees.

705
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:51,320
One guy found a bull moose under a fallen trees

706
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:57,320
root system on a river bank, not bear activity. So that, yeah,

707
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,880
let's tell you something, man, They're known for.

708
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:03,559
Speaker 5: I believe that. I do. I really do believe that.

709
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,960
And then where I when I grew up on down

710
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:11,679
in what they call the the Valley. I'm not going to,

711
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,880
you know, completely name everything, but you know, I've had

712
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,719
a lot of interesting activity going on on down in

713
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:25,239
the valley. Yeah, up at my horse and my dogs

714
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,000
and everything. And I never really thought anything about it.

715
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,840
I just let my dogs do what they did. And

716
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,119
then my horse whenever she whenever I've been trying to

717
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:39,880
go down a trail and this this animal. Uh, she

718
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:42,400
was a very intelligent horse. She was what I call

719
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,320
a lead horse. She was a boss mayor. She didn't

720
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,039
fear anything.

721
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:47,679
Speaker 6: Uh.

722
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 5: She would run a coyote down with me on her

723
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,960
back if they like come out of the trail and

724
00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:57,039
try to stomp them. Snakes she did the same thing too.

725
00:44:57,199 --> 00:45:01,239
She was very aggressive. But she was like say, she

726
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,119
was a applosa and quarter horse, and they say I

727
00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:08,920
app horse and quarter horses by half rosy. But that

728
00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:11,159
was one of the best horses I ever had my life.

729
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,840
But she would stop, she would lay her ears flat

730
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,280
down and stop and spin. And when she would spin,

731
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,000
she was spinning like she was trying to cut cut

732
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:24,760
a horse, you know, cut a cow out or something.

733
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,920
Because I worked with catle a little bit. And she

734
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:30,840
would go ahead and back out and spin around again

735
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,840
to take a look after she got twenty or thirty

736
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,000
feet away. And she would do it so fast sometimes,

737
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:39,199
you know, I'd be all relaxed, sitting there, just riding

738
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,679
and enjoying the pine thicket or whatever, and she would

739
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,480
I'd wash her ears, go down, and I knew I

740
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:46,639
had to grab a hold of something, and she would spin,

741
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:50,360
and my dog would even go with the horse, and

742
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,719
my dog would be acting curious, and then we'd just

743
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,519
go on, you know, go on through the woods another

744
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:59,039
way like nothing ever happened. And I never put it

745
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:00,360
in the thought of but.

746
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's so much out there, you know, looking

747
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,440
back in life that for me anyway, looking back, things

748
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,719
that I remember happening to me as a kid in

749
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,199
the woods that I couldn't really understand that that makes

750
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:20,159
makes sense now. But but we're we're at an hour

751
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,760
and fifteen minutes, so we're gonna need to cut it

752
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:29,039
off right here. Anybody, I appreciate you coming on. We've

753
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:31,599
been talking for a little bit. Glad we finally got

754
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:31,880
you on.

755
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,639
Speaker 5: I'm gonna seriously see you know, if I can get

756
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:37,440
a chance, I'm gonna go by and talk, like say,

757
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:39,719
talked to the old neighbor and everything, and maybe he

758
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,960
was a great guy and he's got more stories to it.

759
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:47,119
Like I say, the great grandmother. I'd like to, you know,

760
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,960
spend that part too, but I need to get a

761
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,400
little more information on that. She had a pretty well

762
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,079
face to face and supposedly shot something, you know, with

763
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,880
a four teen shotgun when she was doing something. But

764
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,559
I need to get a little more info on that.

765
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,119
And I could feel a lot more information in if

766
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:09,320
I can get in touch with you know, this fell.

767
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,039
I just haven't had a chance to go by and

768
00:47:11,159 --> 00:47:11,599
see him.

769
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds awesome, man. You get in touch with

770
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,679
get in touch with them, start to fill in, you know,

771
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,079
some of the gaps, and we'll have you back on

772
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,159
to UH to fill it in, and then we'll all

773
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,559
get together and go on the expedition.

774
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 6: We'll have some more to talk about. But yeah, I

775
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,119
appreciate you coming on, buddy.

776
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate it very much. I may I may

777
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,639
have a few more. Got a few more things I

778
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,920
like with you about too. It's kind of a weird.

779
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,760
It'd be a quick conversation, but it was. It was

780
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,079
a weird, But I share that with you. Also, I

781
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:51,199
think it's more doll Man related not And like I say,

782
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,000
still not one hundred percent sure. I think something saved

783
00:47:54,119 --> 00:47:59,559
me that evening and the Savior was a you know, uh,

784
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,320
couple of other people showing up. It's pretty very It's

785
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,960
a very interesting evening.

786
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 6: But okay, yeah, we'll talk about that next time too, buddy.

787
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 5: All Right, Well, y'all have a good evening, and I

788
00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:16,639
appreciate the time y'all. I've enjoyed it very much.

789
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have too, and we will be in touch, buddy,

790
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:24,079
looking forward to to making our own stories with you.

791
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 6: We'll get together, son.

792
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 5: That sounds good to me, all right, thank you'all.

793
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,599
Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, thank you so much for checking out this

794
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,920
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795
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:42,800
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812
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Speaker 3: Through the woods, the pine trees, sway, shadows long at

813
00:49:53,440 --> 00:50:02,239
end of day, Bigfoots call on the whispering secrets kept

814
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:12,119
by ancient dreams. Dog Man house beneath the moon echoes

815
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:19,840
in the silent dune tracks weave fine, but answers none.

816
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:35,000
A hunt for truth, that's just begune. We're searching past

817
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:42,880
the fire light. Four creatures hidden out of sight in

818
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:50,119
the forest. Hardware shadows lay seeking seecrets in the twilight.

819
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:02,159
Through the fall, a shape did g lie skin walker

820
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:09,360
eyes show wide legends of Oh we chase to night

821
00:51:10,039 --> 00:51:17,320
in the dark. Our lanterns bright by the creek, quil

822
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:25,760
water spill whispers rye, the windsow chill full of steep

823
00:51:26,119 --> 00:51:32,639
man tails on toll in this land, the myths of O.

824
00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:44,519
We're searching past.

825
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 5: The fire light.

826
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: Full creatures hidden out of sight in the forest heart,

827
00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:59,320
where shadows lay, seeking seacrets in the twilight

828
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 5: In

