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<v Speaker 2>Hello everyone, this is Anthony Prakash. Welcome to another new

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<v Speaker 2>episode of Startups. They'll say, thanks for joining us on

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<v Speaker 2>this brand new episode. I'm privileged today to have Venka

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<v Speaker 2>Chindaru from the arcadis Ibi group. VENKTT and I have

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<v Speaker 2>known each other for the last twelve to almost fourteen months.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say I met him last year in Bangalore

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<v Speaker 2>and he and I have talked about several things which

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about on this podcast. And he keeps doing

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun stuff in the world of mobility

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<v Speaker 2>transportation and alongside that a lot of innovation in that space.

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<v Speaker 2>So Venkat, first of all, welcome to the show. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us at six am India time from Bangalore.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks thanks, Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm really and also very excited to be

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<v Speaker 1>part of your podcasts and then to go journey along

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<v Speaker 1>with you and release some of the moments that we

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<v Speaker 1>had together in Bangalore and then probably discuss some of

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<v Speaker 1>the interesting aspects that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, perfect, thanks Mencot. So first of all, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in coming from the technology background myself, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't run into a lot of people who are involved

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<v Speaker 2>in say what we do on a daily basis, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>drive on the street, figure out, look at transportation signals,

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<v Speaker 2>traffic lights and things like that. And when I saw

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<v Speaker 2>your session the first time, I mean I was blown

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<v Speaker 2>away by the amount of technology that actually goes into that,

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of work that goes into that. Then we

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<v Speaker 2>also heard from the Assistant Commissioner of Police and Bangalore

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<v Speaker 2>ask you how much technology they utilize. I mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of ways in tandem working with you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe when I start with your college career, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I see that you did civil engineering in

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<v Speaker 2>your bachelor's program, but you shifted from civil engineering and

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<v Speaker 2>did transportation systems as your masters, I mean, out of

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<v Speaker 2>everything that is out there, what made you transportation engineer?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when we studied civil engineering in our graduation, I

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<v Speaker 1>think transportation was also part of so but what excited

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<v Speaker 1>me was when I actually went to i T Bombay

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<v Speaker 1>for after my m tech Gate qualification for an interview,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I happened to meet and who happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be my guide and my mentor and the philosopher subsequently,

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<v Speaker 1>and the work that he's doing and and the projects

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<v Speaker 1>that they're doing had impressed me a lot and excited

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot as a student at that stage. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I've been offered a special m tech under research program,

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<v Speaker 1>so and then that that's one of the best things

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<v Speaker 1>that actually happened, I believe at that time.

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<v Speaker 3>And he actually took me through.

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<v Speaker 1>The exciting things that they're doing in terms of in

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Mumbai, how they are actually trying to

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<v Speaker 1>work on large infra projects, how they're doing modeling, and

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<v Speaker 1>that usually excites any student at that time. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to id Bombay to get an mp tech

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<v Speaker 1>into structural engineering, which was a fascination.

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<v Speaker 3>At that point in time.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I heard and then I'm completely strayed away

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<v Speaker 1>by my professor and then that's how it all happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and I never looked back. I think that decision was

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<v Speaker 1>the decisions I feel I took it at any point

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<v Speaker 1>in time in my.

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<v Speaker 2>Life that is perfect and I still remember the days.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I actually come from a mechanical engineering background, myself,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've done nothing related to mechanical engineering in my career.

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<v Speaker 2>The only computer science lab we used to have was AutoCAD, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and we used to I mean, and of course we

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<v Speaker 2>used to have all those drawing exams with the big

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<v Speaker 2>scale and things like that, and we did have structural

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<v Speaker 2>engineering as well. You're bringing back fond memories of my

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<v Speaker 2>college career as well. But at the same time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you look back at your career from where you

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<v Speaker 2>started to where you are right now, I mean, technology

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<v Speaker 2>has made massive strides from you know, what you potentially

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<v Speaker 2>thought could be solved and then of course the problems

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<v Speaker 2>becoming much bigger and bigger. Can you kind of give

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<v Speaker 2>us a rundown on what you did after that to

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing right now in in arcades?

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I started with my MP program in I T. Bombay,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the parallel things that I was expected to

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<v Speaker 1>projects that the professor is undertaking as part of the

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<v Speaker 1>institutional work. So I happened to work on some of

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<v Speaker 1>those projects such as Vali Badrasi Link feasibility studies and

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<v Speaker 1>Western Freeway projects. There were conventional traffic and modeling studies

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<v Speaker 1>forecasting the travel demand and u and which is which

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<v Speaker 1>become the inputs for establishing the feasibility.

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<v Speaker 3>Of large transport infrastructure projects.

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<v Speaker 1>And that has laid the whole foundation for me in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the conventional travel demand modeling and traffic studies.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the important things that actually sowed the

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<v Speaker 1>computer labs in the institute after Computer science Engineering, and

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<v Speaker 1>all my friends used to envy us looking at that lab,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we had all the privileges of actually software

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<v Speaker 1>hardware to play around with, and that has also builtn

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<v Speaker 1>a curiosity angle in terms of how we can actually

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<v Speaker 1>leverage the tech.

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<v Speaker 3>From that point of view.

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<v Speaker 1>So then subsequently, after my m tech at id Bombay,

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<v Speaker 1>then I moved on to Tata Consultancy Services, where again

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually part of the management consulting team and

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<v Speaker 1>not the coding team. Because that I was very clear

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<v Speaker 1>one of the carrier transition points. Also, what my professor

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<v Speaker 1>advised me was that not to get into software, but.

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<v Speaker 3>To actually stick to the core and stay through.

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<v Speaker 1>And even when I was actually joining TCS, I was

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<v Speaker 1>actually part of the management consulting team which was involved

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<v Speaker 1>with the transportation projects at that point in time. But

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<v Speaker 1>however those projects were also part of the conventional traffic

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<v Speaker 1>studies and also part of some of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Technology studies as well. Yeah, so while.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually doing the masters, one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that also happened was I need to work on parallely

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of these projects conventional while they are

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<v Speaker 1>actually mostly conventional traffic modeling and traffic podcasting kind of projects.

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<v Speaker 1>I also actually had the opportunity to work in tech

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<v Speaker 1>at that point itself because we actually had one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best computer labs in the institute I TI Bombay

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<v Speaker 1>apart from after only after computer science lab and then

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<v Speaker 1>even my friends you stay and meet a lot. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I got a little exposure to technology, which

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<v Speaker 1>also always kept me looped in with technology. And while

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<v Speaker 1>while I was actually doing my masters, I also happened

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<v Speaker 1>to work in some of the flagship projects like on

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<v Speaker 1>Liban RASI Link and Freeway Western Freeway feasibility studies. Post

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<v Speaker 1>my masters, one of the important things also decision points

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<v Speaker 1>that happened was when most of my almost all my

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues were actually getting into software that was the boom

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<v Speaker 1>at that point in time. So my professor actually called

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<v Speaker 1>my and and said, like, you are not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be you need to stay through. And then I and

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<v Speaker 1>he promised me and I showed me that you will

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<v Speaker 1>never ripent.

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<v Speaker 3>On these decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's one of the good things that actually happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And that one of the other things I also saw

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<v Speaker 1>in my career in my life was also the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of good mentors who had been always guiding me at

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<v Speaker 1>right point in time and helping me take those right

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<v Speaker 1>decisions and sway through some of the challenging times in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. And once that I actually joined TCS. Though

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<v Speaker 1>it was it is known for it tech, but in

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<v Speaker 1>those days they also used to have one specific team

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<v Speaker 1>called management Consulting Team. They used to work on consulting

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<v Speaker 1>and advisory studies. So and I will we were focusing

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<v Speaker 1>more on transportation. And then for almost like three three

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<v Speaker 1>and half years I was actually with TCS where I

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<v Speaker 1>worked on both conventional travel demand modeling and other studies.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the the Mumbai Metro project that we

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<v Speaker 1>travel demand modeling for the city and then we created

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<v Speaker 1>that master plan and I'm glad to see those projects

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<v Speaker 1>are all now coming to reality. And then at TCS,

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<v Speaker 1>I was also part of some of those tech projects.

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<v Speaker 3>In those days, it used to be called the information technology.

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<v Speaker 1>with digital. With those days it is actually called technology

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<v Speaker 1>transit transformation and then today's we call it as a

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<v Speaker 1>digital to work with Peterwd's government bodies and World Bank projects,

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<v Speaker 1>so where we used to actually advise them on how

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<v Speaker 1>the technology transition can which all can be automated, what

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<v Speaker 1>are all the processes that can be automated. So we

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<v Speaker 1>also on the Mundraport automation project, so where I was

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<v Speaker 1>So that's how we we had our hands and legs

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<v Speaker 1>into technology associated with transportation. So what seats that the

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<v Speaker 1>IT Bombay has laid in terms of not just the

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<v Speaker 1>conventional transportation projects, but they also gave us the training

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<v Speaker 2>Got it, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I actually from there I moved on to

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<v Speaker 1>Wilba Smith again and I'm a US based MNC where

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually involved in traffic and transportation studies.

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<v Speaker 3>We did a lot of the Metro.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually involved in some of those Middle East

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<v Speaker 1>projects that they were actually doing for creating the transport plans.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the big change came in when I actually.

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<v Speaker 1>highway project. And then they liked us so much and

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<v Speaker 1>and then they said like, why don't you join it

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<v Speaker 3>That actually made a big change into career transition.

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<v Speaker 1>That actually happened, and of course GMR I never looked

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<v Speaker 1>back again for ten years. How the time passed and

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that was that was with GMR.

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<v Speaker 1>And then subsequently GMR was actually moving on its operations

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<v Speaker 1>management systems. One of the interesting things that we also

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<v Speaker 1>So and this continent tracking container lock up was actually

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<v Speaker 1>So that problem statement has actually was put thrown at

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<v Speaker 1>the isihlight that we actually carried out set up and

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's posted that with infrared.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I also subsequently got into IBI, so again there's

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<v Speaker 1>shop for IBA in India and then that's when we

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<v Speaker 3>And then he said like what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And then GMR was also looking for toll traffic management

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<v Speaker 1>solutions for their highways and then I said, why don't

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's how we started.

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<v Speaker 1>And fortunately they came on board through a bidding process

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how the collaboration with IBA started and that

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the successful projects that actually happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the industry. So one of the flagship projects, I should

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<v Speaker 1>say in terms of toll and traffic management systems. Along

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<v Speaker 1>I moved on from GMR and then didn't even tell them,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were also a little taken awack and said

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<v Speaker 1>like we wanted you to be on our side rather

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<v Speaker 1>than going around with other things. But then I have

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<v Speaker 1>already committed here. So that's when the infrawd. When also

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<v Speaker 1>after these projects, there was some sort of a shakeup

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<v Speaker 1>happening in because being a startup is a startup, shake

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<v Speaker 1>ups keep happening. So there was change of ownership that

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<v Speaker 1>was actually happening, and then I said like, okay, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's not something.

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<v Speaker 3>For so then I moved on to IBI. So and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight year, eight year completed, nine year running for me

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<v Speaker 1>again in ib I and two years back after this

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<v Speaker 1>all the beautiful projects that we're into and that that's

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<v Speaker 1>where yeah, today, I think this is the timeline.

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<v Speaker 2>Incredible. Ven I mean, first of all, I mean i'm

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<v Speaker 2>asked I would say you're lucky. I mean partly you've

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<v Speaker 2>created your luck because you are pursuing your passion right

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<v Speaker 2>from you know, the the school days, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>right from I t too right now, you know you

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<v Speaker 2>could have fallen preyed, like you said yourself to the

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<v Speaker 2>software boom or you know why do k which was there?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know it didn't matter in India, right, what mechanical,

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<v Speaker 2>what engineer didn't matter. You always became a software engineer, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So good to see that you didn't fall prey to that.

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<v Speaker 2>See you on that. And then I mean, you know

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of impact that you've created along the way,

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<v Speaker 2>which we can probably talk about. So the part I

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<v Speaker 2>want to ask you next, Venkatis. I mean, obviously this

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<v Speaker 2>is a space where you know, twenty years ago you

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<v Speaker 2>don't see the type of I mean much like any

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<v Speaker 2>other industry perhaps, but I mean at what scale do

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<v Speaker 2>you think you know things have changed or innovation has

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<v Speaker 2>of the world, right, I mean when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>software or a software engineer if you will, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, every other month or something, there's a new

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<v Speaker 2>AI and things like that. But if you just look

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<v Speaker 2>at it through your lens, you know you said you

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<v Speaker 2>were working on some of the projects in Mumbai even

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<v Speaker 2>when you started out of college too. Right now, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you see innovation or the disruption happening in

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<v Speaker 2>your world? And then maybe we can pivot to see

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<v Speaker 2>how the technology overlap is happening as well.

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<v Speaker 1>See, I think the transportation we always India always had

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<v Speaker 1>that infrastructure deficit, and that's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>was pulling our economy from boom booming. Right But in

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<v Speaker 1>the late nineties, when the infrastructure boom started and the

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<v Speaker 1>focus on infrastructure development and investments started coming in, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the four more focus in this particular sector was

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<v Speaker 1>most on building the basic blocks of actually concrete or

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<v Speaker 1>huge deficit, so the focus was more on building that

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<v Speaker 1>because only when you actually have an infrastructure, that's when

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<v Speaker 1>equality infrastructure, that's when you can actually talk of other things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more like the backbone of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>The backbone was actually was required, so that was actually

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<v Speaker 1>being done. A lot of the innovation was actually happening,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't say technology, but innovation was happening on material use,

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<v Speaker 1>what type of material that we should actually be using,

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<v Speaker 1>and what top of techniques should be used in making

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<v Speaker 3>Those kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 1>So the innovation was more focused on fast tracking the

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<v Speaker 1>work and making sure the quality is actually is better,

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<v Speaker 1>or in terms of how we actually operate that infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>and maintain that infrastructure focused subsequently, So the.

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<v Speaker 3>Focus was more on those things.

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<v Speaker 1>But late two thousands, I think that's when the importance

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<v Speaker 1>of technology then actually started with the because always we

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<v Speaker 1>actually had the limitation of the space, so we couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have actually grown the infrastructure at a pace at which

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle ownerships were actually growing or the transportation volumes

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<v Speaker 1>were actually growing, so whether it's people or the goods

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<v Speaker 1>that we're actually talking about, So that's when the emphasis

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<v Speaker 1>actually came on, how do we manage the infrastructure in

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<v Speaker 1>a much more efficient way to make sure that it

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<v Speaker 1>would cater to the growing needs of the society or

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<v Speaker 1>the economy as a whole. So that's when slowly the

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<v Speaker 1>technology started penetrating into it. But I can always say

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<v Speaker 1>that that has been a slow adoption in this particular industry,

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<v Speaker 1>whether we actually call it as a toll or traffic management,

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<v Speaker 1>or whether signaling systems. Even today you can actually see

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<v Speaker 1>a city like Bangalore today actually out of its five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred plus junctions, we are only talking of an adaptive

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<v Speaker 1>solution traffic management. So in just about a year back

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<v Speaker 1>we started deploying right. Yeah, So the adoption of technology

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<v Speaker 1>uh primarily driven by the funding constraints that and and

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<v Speaker 1>the and the I should actually say the education or

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of the bureaucracy uh side of the story. So

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<v Speaker 1>there like for example Stranache and he understands technology and

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<v Speaker 1>its importance and then he's driving it saying that yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to drive you capitalize the potential of technology

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<v Speaker 1>while we continue to do what we're doing. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>that particular aspect was also missing. And with with the

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<v Speaker 1>new age bureaucrats coming in, that passion for using technology

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<v Speaker 1>India is that once it only takes a time for

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<v Speaker 1>it to adopted. Once they adopted, the scale of the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of adoption is like a yeah, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's how we've actually seen even whether we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about fast tag RFDI bays, fast tag tolling and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember in GMR we were the first to actually use

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<v Speaker 1>RFID to solve one of our burning problems of buses

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<v Speaker 1>not being paid. So we need to track how many

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<v Speaker 1>buses were going through which were not paying. So we said,

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<v Speaker 1>like we will use RFIs the technology for tracking, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that becomes a basis for tolling.

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<v Speaker 3>We never imagine. And then that adoption of RAFID was

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<v Speaker 1>With Nonlekani Committee recommendations and then adoption of that and

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<v Speaker 1>then with the push that the government gave in the

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<v Speaker 1>recent past were it actually transitioned from fifteen percent penetration

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<v Speaker 1>to a ninety eight percent penetration. It's beautiful and it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And technology adoption in India has been at a very

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<v Speaker 1>fast pace. So that's how it has actually happened. In

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<v Speaker 1>the transportation, the ITS we actually call it the Intelligent

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<v Speaker 1>Transport systems for the technology side of the whole story

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<v Speaker 1>of transportation. The adopt the growth of ITS has actually

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<v Speaker 1>has actually grown substantially and with the growth of the industry,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the hardware side, whether it call it the cameras

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<v Speaker 1>or scanners or radars or R readers. So although adoption

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of how they can actually capitalize or how they

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<v Speaker 1>can actually adopt technology to improve their operational efficiencies.

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<v Speaker 2>It thank you for that. I mean, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>points you mentioned was going to be my next pivot.

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<v Speaker 2>So you mentioned bureaucracy. Obviously that that comes in because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in your world, you I mean, you cannot

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<v Speaker 2>avoid the fact that you have to work with the

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<v Speaker 2>public sector, the government, and it's a massive collaboration for

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<v Speaker 2>everything to come to light. Right, So how would you

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<v Speaker 2>say that has kind of evolved over the years. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously to your point, you know, in the late nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>nineties and in the last ten years, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>infrastructure boom. You can visibly see it, right, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>the airports or as they call it, the whole Golden

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<v Speaker 2>Quadilateral in terms of you know, all the highways and

439
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<v Speaker 2>the more highways coming up, or the different city metros

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<v Speaker 2>that are coming up and things like that. So there

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be a really good balance between collaborating with

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<v Speaker 2>the government officials, right, and your private sector to make

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<v Speaker 2>all these projects to come to life. I mean, so

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<v Speaker 2>any thought, son, you know how that has kind of

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<v Speaker 2>gotten better over the years, making your life simple. Any

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<v Speaker 2>any taught viewpoints from your side banker.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So again I should say I've been a bit

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<v Speaker 1>lucky to having worked with some of the best bureaucrats

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. While while my I started my career

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<v Speaker 1>with tel Traffic Comprehensive Traffic Transportation Study, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>bureaucrats whom I worked with at that point in time

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<v Speaker 1>were so visionary and at that point and time they

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<v Speaker 1>were talking of how always aligning, not focusing more on

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<v Speaker 1>technology alone, but then focusing on how to solve the

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<v Speaker 1>problem at large, how to actually make transportation and accessible

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<v Speaker 1>to people, and how to leverage transportation to to make

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<v Speaker 1>it the economic engine work right. So that was the

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<v Speaker 1>vision that that that's the kind of vision that they

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<v Speaker 1>actually had in those days, right. And then slowly when

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<v Speaker 1>even when I actually worked with say the r fighting

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of projects that we I talked about and

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<v Speaker 1>whether in TCAs or whether infrawate.

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<v Speaker 3>Or in GMR.

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<v Speaker 1>So the best part was while they're understanding on technology

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<v Speaker 1>or deep depth was actually not much, but then they

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<v Speaker 1>all felt the need for the technology to be there,

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<v Speaker 1>to actually be leveraged to fast track or to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure the problem solving happens in a better way, right

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<v Speaker 1>and and the most innovative way. So I think while

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<v Speaker 1>while I say this, I also have encountered a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of bureaucrats who who's lack of understanding or knowledge of technology,

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<v Speaker 1>they were actually trying to shy away and then keep

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<v Speaker 1>the technology away from there.

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<v Speaker 3>They pushed back.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever you go go and then try to discuss some

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<v Speaker 1>technology intervention which can actually make things better, they say no, no, no, no, please,

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<v Speaker 1>don't disturb the way is working, and then you continue

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<v Speaker 1>to do what you're doing. Yeah, so I had, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you have both sides, but I can always say that

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who are actually more forthcoming and adopting technology

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<v Speaker 1>is almost like on a majority today. So and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why where you can actually see this kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>boom and India becoming a digital force as well in

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<v Speaker 1>the globe. So so I think that that's where the

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<v Speaker 1>whole story is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, I mean, again, based on what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I feel like it's in a much better

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<v Speaker 2>place than what it was, you know, maybe a decade

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<v Speaker 2>ago or a couple of decades ago. And that's a

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<v Speaker 2>testament to the progress that's been made as well. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So being in Bangal or a venkt, I mean you obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Bangler calls itself the silicon value of India

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<v Speaker 2>or the Silicon value of the East. I mean with

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<v Speaker 2>the number of startups, a number of people moving there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all the VC funds there and things like

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<v Speaker 2>that I've seen in the press as well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in your current role in arcadis Ibi, you

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<v Speaker 2>do partner with startups, right, I mean you can obviously

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<v Speaker 2>innovate internally in your role, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you know, in a startup world, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you know, those ideas move fast, and there is a

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of opportunity for you to collaborate with some of

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<v Speaker 2>those best to breed solutions as well. Right, So how

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<v Speaker 2>do you go about picking and choosing what you build

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<v Speaker 2>internally within your team and these are the opportunities for

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<v Speaker 2>you to collaborate with a startup or collaborate with another partner,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you make those decisions?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, see, one of the one of the fundamental principles

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<v Speaker 1>that you all believed in and was always to actually

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that we are collaborating both with our customers

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<v Speaker 1>and also with with our partners. And OEMs and startups,

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<v Speaker 1>so we very well know that not everything can be

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<v Speaker 1>done by ourselves, even if we would want to develop

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<v Speaker 1>that particular competency. Also, we always have that decision making

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<v Speaker 1>is in terms of how efficient it is for us

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<v Speaker 1>to and whether to do it internally or whether we

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<v Speaker 1>actually collaborate with someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So, our our.

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<v Speaker 1>Main strength is our domain expertise and our ability to

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<v Speaker 1>actually curate solution, right. So that's that's our strengths as

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<v Speaker 1>the team, whether it's haartred Is or whether it in

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<v Speaker 1>tc IS or wherever we were actually working our our

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<v Speaker 1>that that's the core strength that we used to look

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<v Speaker 1>at and especially now when we're working as archad is

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<v Speaker 1>when we're trying to build this solution of AST or

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<v Speaker 1>whether that traffic management solution adaptive signaling system, or whether

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<v Speaker 1>we are working in other mining ORISA mining corporation projects

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<v Speaker 1>that we that we delivered our traffic management on highways

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<v Speaker 1>that we are actually working on everywhere. I think our

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<v Speaker 1>strength is actually is curating a solution to solve the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>right and what ingredients make that solution work. We are

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<v Speaker 1>not we want to actually collaborate with the external world,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where we actually have looked at as the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing that could actually happen is if the best

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<v Speaker 1>comes in yeah, right, and then when you stitch this

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<v Speaker 1>thing together, and and if you're able to focus more

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<v Speaker 1>on problem solving, on our own core strength, because we

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<v Speaker 1>believe that when it's not my strength, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't need to.

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<v Speaker 1>Start building that and I can liberate on someone else's strength.

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<v Speaker 1>And who's that's the core of someone else? Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>keep you keep stick to your core, and then bring

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<v Speaker 1>the core of others, uh to build the solution and

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<v Speaker 1>then make it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's perfect well said, Yeah, well said. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's a great approach. I mean, and I will stand

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<v Speaker 2>the test of time as well. Right, So that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So everybody, uh, you know these days uses some bit

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<v Speaker 2>of AI, or at least trying to use some bit

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<v Speaker 2>of AI. How has AI impacted your world? In the world,

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<v Speaker 2>if say, transportation systems or everything else the plateau of

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<v Speaker 2>things that arkadis Ibi does.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, No doubt, I think a A has has a

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<v Speaker 1>great potential. I think it's it's one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>disruptions that could actually be as our generation could have

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<v Speaker 1>actually seen. And I see transportation getting benefited with AI

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. But the point here is I think what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing and is about the more of an abuse

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<v Speaker 1>of the word AI then and better use So I

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<v Speaker 1>actually feel like I think it's important.

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<v Speaker 3>That we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Use cases built and developed, and a lot of startups

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<v Speaker 1>are actually coming in in this space as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>we should we should actually be able to leverage those

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<v Speaker 1>startups and collaborations with Academy. I think that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the important things that we need to look at when

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<v Speaker 1>we're actually focusing on these AI and deep tech collaborations.

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<v Speaker 3>So, coming to your point.

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<v Speaker 1>Of impact of AI, I see AI playing a major

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<v Speaker 1>role in every uh, every transportation segment, and not only

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<v Speaker 1>in the transportation set, but also in every stage of.

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<v Speaker 3>The life cycle of the transportation project.

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<v Speaker 1>Right whether it's actually playing a big role in design,

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<v Speaker 1>it's playing a big role in development, or in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of construction stage, it's going to play a big role

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<v Speaker 1>in operations.

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00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:19.800
<v Speaker 3>And maintenance as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So at all the phases, I actually see AI

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<v Speaker 1>having a big role to play. And apart from that,

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<v Speaker 1>even the digital twin I would like to bring that

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<v Speaker 1>also into play that that also is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the big things that that's going to disrupt

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<v Speaker 1>the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>You can simulate almost anything and everything, and yeah, yeah, perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>So record, we've come to a section which we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to call the they'll say question, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you five questions and you can give a super

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<v Speaker 2>short answer and we can move on to the next question.

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<v Speaker 2>If you'd like to elaborate, feel free. So you already,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think I know the answer to the

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<v Speaker 2>first question. I'm going to ask you who's your role

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<v Speaker 2>model or your inspiration. I think you're going to say

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<v Speaker 2>somebody from your I T days, But if it's not,

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<v Speaker 2>that's okay. But any any inspiration you have in your

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<v Speaker 2>career venkor Yeah, I think one of.

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<v Speaker 1>The great inspirations that I actually had. Of course processing

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<v Speaker 1>there has always been my mentor and he has guided

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<v Speaker 1>me although and he continues to guide me.

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<v Speaker 3>So from a professional point of view, I actually take.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Streeter and as as a role model in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of as a karma yogi what what we called him,

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<v Speaker 1>and the kind of contributions that he has become a

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<v Speaker 1>metro man having a single minded focus of actually solving

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<v Speaker 1>the problem in terms of and making sure building an

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<v Speaker 1>institution which actually lasts longer and beyond beyond an individual

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<v Speaker 1>and beyond a time. Right, So I think that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I admire him. And he's professionally, he's my role model.

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<v Speaker 1>I always looked upon to his life to draw some

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<v Speaker 1>lessons for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>That is great. So the next one is any favorite

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<v Speaker 2>book or a documentary that you have that you keep

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<v Speaker 2>going back to for inspiration.

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<v Speaker 3>I again here, I have two points. I always been.

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<v Speaker 1>Reading from my childhood days right from my and then

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<v Speaker 1>more than I don't see it as a religious book,

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<v Speaker 1>but as a as a text which actually has always

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<v Speaker 1>inspired me every time I read something, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>actually contextualizes and gives me solution. While I see this

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a book that I can actually go

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<v Speaker 1>back all the times on a contemporary And I happened

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<v Speaker 1>to read the book called The Professional based Brother Bakshi

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<v Speaker 1>uh And and I really admire that book and I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy that book. And that's one book that i've actually

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<v Speaker 1>i'm not and I give that to as many of them,

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<v Speaker 1>both to my customers and to my team members all

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<v Speaker 1>the times. And that's been one of the wonderful books

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<v Speaker 1>that I've read and have candidly expressed a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>those dilemmas that a professional would actually come across in

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<v Speaker 1>his or her careers and then provide some best guidance.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you. I've not read that book myself, so

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<v Speaker 2>I will I will look.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably I would give.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see next. So on the same lines as

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<v Speaker 2>the first two. I mean, what's what's the I mean say,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say you obviously get advice, But I mean

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<v Speaker 2>if somebody day one in their careers or year one

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<v Speaker 2>in their careers, creditor, respective of which career they are in,

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<v Speaker 2>what is one piece of advice you would give them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of the things that I keep I

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<v Speaker 1>keep telling the youth and young whenever I go to

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<v Speaker 1>colleges and other places.

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<v Speaker 3>Is actually to be staying socially relevant.

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<v Speaker 1>So in whichever the tech, whichever the domain that you are,

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<v Speaker 1>I think what is important is to actually stay socially

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<v Speaker 1>and relevant because that's what is going to stay forever.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, whether you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Solving a community problem, or a transportation problem, or a

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<v Speaker 1>climate problem or whatsoever, I think, as long as you

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<v Speaker 1>are actually solving and staying relevant socially and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>solve the problem of a community. So that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>think we will have a long way to go and

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<v Speaker 1>we will be sustainable for a longer period of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would actually help you to build a career

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<v Speaker 1>for oneself.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that advice that I would like.

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<v Speaker 2>To keep, yeah, beautifully said. And in your career, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you've obviously achieved a lot of things already. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>one many more great things ahead if you want. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what's if you were to point out one

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<v Speaker 2>thing that you're super proud of in your career, any

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<v Speaker 2>anything that comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So as as I told you so one of the

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are there are many to that point,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've always released a lot of these good things

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<v Speaker 1>that we were actually doing, uh primarily when when we

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<v Speaker 1>actually started exploring RFID technology per safe for solving the

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<v Speaker 1>bush tolling problem. So that actually I felt one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest breakthroughs that we actually had to actually how

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<v Speaker 1>to leverage technology. And same way, I think I would

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<v Speaker 1>also want to add the current Astrum project that we

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<v Speaker 1>were actually delivering to Bangalo Traffic Police, actionable intelligence for

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable traffic management. I think that is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I feel I will be very if you

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<v Speaker 1>ask me this question.

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<v Speaker 2>You're basically projecting it for the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is one of the breakthroughs that that that

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<v Speaker 1>I would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could see that myself too, because I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that is such a complex project. I mean, you know

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of scaling.

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<v Speaker 1>Problem like a traffic condition problem in a city like Bangalow.

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<v Speaker 1>I always tell that I don't think well be able

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<v Speaker 1>to solve with a click or with but it's only

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<v Speaker 1>through a strong collaboration and everybody's involvement and engagement is

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<v Speaker 1>what is very important. And that's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why we are also trying to see how to engage

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<v Speaker 1>community into this initiative and want to make this from

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<v Speaker 1>a We have transitioned that slowly from a project to

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<v Speaker 1>a program. Now from program to a mission. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>how we are actually looking as should become a mission.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh leave a part of the name whatever that name

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<v Speaker 1>is the thing a strategic weapon that we were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to create for us to solve the problem in the

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<v Speaker 1>hands of empowering the traffic police.

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<v Speaker 2>So so thanks thanks Francott. I mean I must say

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<v Speaker 2>every time I come to Bangalore and stop it as

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<v Speaker 2>a traffic signal and I look at the signal and

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<v Speaker 2>wait there. I always think it's you, you know, thinking that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're doing something to play a big role

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<v Speaker 2>via arcade IS and work with the Bangloor Traffic Police

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<v Speaker 2>to complex all those solved problems with AI and all

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<v Speaker 2>the new technology that you're bringing in. So I learned

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<v Speaker 2>a ton today, Venkott. I mean, I'm going to look

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<v Speaker 2>up the book and your inspiration and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a great learning for me to learn more

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<v Speaker 2>about you and your journey. So thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 2>taking the time today, Vankored. I mean, I'm sure we'll

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<v Speaker 2>meet up in person soon, but for my audience here,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for taking the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks a lot, Anthony. And then it was pleasure talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I think you've made me to time travel

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<v Speaker 1>back and having some pleasant memories from my life. So

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for that time. And then I hope you've got

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<v Speaker 1>what you wanted from the Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I mean, you know, this is this is what

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast is all about, you know, learning from people

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<v Speaker 2>like you and uh, you know, try to replicate some

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<v Speaker 2>of your learning. So thanks so much, Ncer, take care,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you so much.