WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:05.080 Oho Wimbo Kelly one. 2 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:13.919 Six from executive producers Lebron James, Maverick Carter and award 3 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:18.079 winning director Chris Ayre, The History Channel's new documentary Jim Thorpe, 4 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:21.640 lit By Lightning, offers a comprehensive exploration into the life 5 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:24.320 and legacy of the legendary Olympian and one of the 6 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:29.120 greatest all around athletes in our nation's history. Acclaimed filmmaker 7 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:31.879 Chris air tells the untold story of, as I said, 8 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:34.840 America's arguably greatest athlete of all time, a man who 9 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:37.240 played in the NFL, in Major League Baseball, and a 10 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:40.159 multi gold medalist at the nineteen twelve Games. 11 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:42.920 Jim Thorpe. I haven't seen that level of greatness in 12 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:44.399 so many sports. 13 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:46.359 And yet not many people remember his name. 14 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:51.399 Growing up on the reservation, he liked challenging his own body. 15 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:55.679 That was like a natural cross training. Jim Thorpe was 16 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:56.600 made for football. 17 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:02.520 He's running, he's kicking, he's tackling. Jim plays every minute 18 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:05.200 of a game, offense and defense. Jim Thorpe is at 19 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:07.120 the top of his game, and yet he was about 20 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:08.239 to level up again. 21 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:11.120 Of his achievement at the Stockholm Olympics. 22 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:13.079 I haven't seen that level of greatness. 23 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:15.920 The gold medals were taken away from it was an 24 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:17.480 enormous injustice. 25 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:21.920 Americans didn't see indigenous peoples as human beings. 26 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:25.480 He really created that sport. 27 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:29.840 He was the greatest athlete of all time and one 28 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:33.439 of the greatest Americans who ever lived. Jim Thorpe Lit 29 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:36.599 by Lightning premieres Monday, July seventh and eighth part of 30 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.879 History Honors two fifty only on the History Channel. 31 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:42.120 And Chris Air joins me now on the show. Chris, 32 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:44.359 good evening. Thank you for your work. 33 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:47.519 Great mode. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it, and 34 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:50.640 I'm excited to talk about Jim Thorpe Lit by Lightning. 35 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:52.439 I am a student of history. 36 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:55.799 I'm a student of sports history as well, and I 37 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:58.400 know that we have multiple generations which have grown up 38 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:02.400 with no knowledge of the significance and greatness of Jim Thorpe. 39 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:04.359 And that's probably why, or at least part of the 40 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:06.879 reason why you've done Jim Thorpe Lit by Lightning. But 41 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:10.599 just top line for me, the significance of his contributions 42 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:14.479 and exploits in telling the fullness of American history. 43 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:18.000 Well, I think it's important that we tell these stories 44 00:02:18.039 --> 00:02:22.319 so people remember, we can reconfer on why somebody is 45 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:27.120 regarded with the admiration that they are. And Jim Thorpe 46 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:30.199 is part of that story. I mean, when you talk about, 47 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:34.879 you know, his accomplishments in athletics, they're still unparallel to 48 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:38.719 anyone else. When you talk about Lebron James, who's endorsed 49 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:42.039 this and as an executive producer and a goat himself, 50 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:46.520 and he's saying Jim Thorpe is the greatest athlete of 51 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:49.199 all time and one of the greatest Americans that ever lived. 52 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:52.479 It really gives you the scope of what we're talking 53 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.120 about here. So you know, the likes of which you know, 54 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:58.680 Barry Bonds, of Deon Sanders and Michael Jordan, all of 55 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:03.360 these are great, great goats. But Jim Thorpe is in 56 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:08.639 a category by himself. Like you said, he played professional 57 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:13.599 football in which he won nine championships with the Canton 58 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:17.039 Bulldogs of the American Football League which would become the NFL. 59 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:22.240 Jim Thorpe was the first president of the American Football League, 60 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:25.520 which became the NFL, So he is connected to the 61 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:30.560 history and the continuum of football today. He won collegiate 62 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:37.840 football championships against Penn State, against Harvard, and ultimately against 63 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:41.599 Army in a very famous game against Dwight Eisenhower, who 64 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:45.599 became President of the United States. Dwight Eisenhower. You know, 65 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:48.840 when Jim Thorpe passed away, wrote a telegram to his 66 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:52.800 wife in which he recounted how much he'd thought of 67 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:56.840 Jim Thorpe in those college days when he saw him 68 00:03:56.840 --> 00:04:00.479 and said there was no other football player that was 69 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:04.319 comparable to him on that field that day. And then 70 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:07.599 you look at things like he played professional baseball, he 71 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:11.800 was a championship ballroom dancer, he played some basketball, and 72 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:15.759 what you highlighted was the King of Sweden in nineteen 73 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:20.720 twelve during the Stockholm Olympics touted him as the greatest 74 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:24.040 athlete in the world because he won the fifteen event 75 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:29.839 decathlon and the pentathlon gold medals in the same Olympics. 76 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:31.480 So when you put all. 77 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:35.279 That together, you recognize that no one else has had 78 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:39.360 that kind of achievement. And as recently as two thousand, 79 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:45.120 the Associated Press still voted him greatest athlete of all time, 80 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:51.279 and last year, interestingly enough, President Biden awarded him the 81 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:55.839 Presidential Medal of Freedom. And in twenty twenty two, the 82 00:04:55.879 --> 00:05:00.439 Olympic Committee reinstated his gold medals that were taking away 83 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:05.160 due to a controversy. So he's the sole winner of 84 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:08.959 his own gold medals from the nineteen yeah the nineteen 85 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:10.759 twelve Stockholm Olympics. 86 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:15.199 Chris, do we know what motivated him to excel? Was 87 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:18.360 it something internal? Was it external with what was going 88 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:21.560 on in America at that time with him being an 89 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:22.839 indigenous athlete? 90 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:25.279 What do you think motivated him? 91 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:28.639 That's the greatest question. And for me as a filmmaker, 92 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:31.680 I think my first job is to entertain and the 93 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:34.920 second job is to really look at what drives the 94 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:39.639 character beyond the headlines of the accomplishments. And so with 95 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:47.519 Jim Thorpe, I actually can see something, you know inside 96 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:51.160 of him that I recognize as a native person. He 97 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:54.160 was born in eighteen eighty seven on the Second Fox 98 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:57.639 Indian Reservation. There was thunder and lightning all around the 99 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:01.199 night of his birth, and his mother named him, which 100 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:06.040 translates in English to bright path. By age nine, he 101 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:09.639 had lost his twin brother to pneumonia. By age eleven, 102 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:14.480 he'd lost both of his parents. He was taken forcibly 103 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:19.000 to Haskell Indian School, where he ran away multiple times 104 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:22.480 back home to Oklahoma, and finally he was taken to Carlisle, 105 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:27.160 Pennsylvania at age eleven years old and put there because 106 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:30.759 he couldn't run away anymore. And when I think about 107 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:35.079 somebody who comes from those beginnings, I started to recognize 108 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:38.639 that he needed a channel, you know, he needed a 109 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:45.360 place to put his emotion, his anger, his passion. And 110 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.199 sports became that vehicle. And I think to myself, if 111 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:52.040 he wouldn't have had sports, what might have become of him. 112 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:56.000 But he did all this before you know, social media 113 00:06:56.120 --> 00:07:02.160 and thumb likes and endorsements, million dollar deals. He did 114 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:04.800 all this for a different reason. He did all this 115 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:10.279 for the passion of competition and the love of winning. 116 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:12.360 Hey, Chris, let me jumping there. Let me jumping there. 117 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:14.639 Because yes, he did it before social media and all 118 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:18.000 of these accoutrement that we come to know as normal today. 119 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.959 But what do you think Jim Thorpe might have become 120 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:24.439 as far as the figure, well the size of his 121 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:27.319 legacy if he had been born in the in the 122 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.839 world of ESPN, in the world of TikTok, the world 123 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:32.439 of social media, more generally. 124 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:36.839 I don't know exactly, mo I mean, that's the honest answer, 125 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:40.800 but I can I can say that I like to 126 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:47.839 think that he wouldn't have used those avenues for himself. 127 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:52.959 I think it was purely about the competition that he loved. 128 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:58.160 But he's certainly had a humility that wasn't just about himself. 129 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:01.399 And I can see that in his interviews. I can 130 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:04.600 see that throughout his life that he worked hard. He was, 131 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:08.240 you know, digging ditches in his later life, and I 132 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:12.360 see in his face that he wasn't shamed by what 133 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:16.240 he was doing. He was a prideful person that was 134 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:20.680 making himself useful from a generation that knew how to work, 135 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:24.279 a generation that came from the Great Depression, a generation 136 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:27.759 that came from World War One, a generation in which 137 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:31.160 he was put onto reservations, you know, as the first 138 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:34.679 Indians on reservations. And so when he was out there, 139 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:38.000 whether he was performing at his best as an athlete 140 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:42.240 or working digging ditches, or he was in a hundred 141 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:46.759 movies from the nineteen thirties in Hollywood, including King Kong, 142 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:51.879 he was working. He was not feeling sorry for himself. 143 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:54.200 He was putting one foot in front of the other, 144 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:57.799 and he was taking what was given to him and 145 00:08:57.840 --> 00:08:59.639 turning it into success. 146 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:03.360 Jim Thorpe lit by Lightning, directed by My guests Right 147 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:06.960 Now Chris Air premierees Monday, July seventh at eight pm 148 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:10.000 on the History Channel. Chris as I said at the beginning, 149 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:12.480 I'm a student of history. I'm a student of sports history. 150 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:15.679 So I am overjoyed that this was done, and I 151 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:19.080 thank you for putting this together so this younger generation, 152 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:22.279 this social media generation, can learn about and fall in 153 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:23.759 love with Jim Thorpe as I did. 154 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:25.639 Thank you so much, sir, Thank. 155 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:27.320 You, Moe. I appreciate it. 156 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:29.600 It's Later with Mo Kelly CAFI AM six forty. We're 157 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:33.120 live everywhere on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app. 158 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:36.919 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 159 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:38.879 KFI AM six forty. 160 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:40.519 Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 161 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:41.919 And we told you at the beginning of the show 162 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:45.200 we would be monitoring the Dodger game to see if 163 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:48.879 Clayton Kershaw would be able to hit three thousand strikeouts 164 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:52.159 this outing. It's now the top of the fifth the 165 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.919 Chicago White Sox are playing at Dodger Stadium, Chicago White 166 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:57.720 Sox are up four to two. Top of the fifth inning, 167 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:02.360 they're two out. Clayton Kershaw is still two strikeouts away. 168 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:08.840 Oh yeah, two tryouts away. And so we're we're watching 169 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:09.480 right now. 170 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:12.720 To see there was a questionable call whether it was 171 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:15.559 going to get a strike too on this batter. 172 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:19.240 But I think you just walked to Chicago White Sox player. 173 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:21.879 But we're watching. We'll let you know if Clayton Kershaw 174 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:27.200 gets his three thousand strikeout tonight. So, speaking of games 175 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:29.759 for adults, Chuck E Cheese and we've talked about Chuck 176 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:32.360 E Cheese any number of times about how it's probably 177 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:34.399 the last place you want to go unless you want 178 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:37.679 to get into a fight or you know, get stabbed, 179 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:41.000 or I don't know, have your kids get into some 180 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:43.440 sort of altercation drive by shooting. 181 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:45.720 Chuck E Cheese is a dangerous place to go. I'm 182 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:46.399 just being honest. 183 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:49.159 I've been there on a couple of occasions and fights 184 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:53.559 have broken out, no exaggeration. Chuck E Cheese is self 185 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:57.440 aware to a certain degree, and they're having to reinvent themselves. 186 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:01.320 What they've proposed and have moved forward with doing is 187 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:05.600 they're opening new locations with these adult arcades, not that 188 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:10.399 type of adult, but adult as in catering to adults 189 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:14.320 of I would say the millennial generation and Gen X 190 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:19.200 generation as in arcade gabes. These new arcades will feature 191 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:24.120 retro favorites like Biz Pac Band, Donkey Kong alongside modern 192 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:28.440 titles including Jurassic Park, Halo, and Connect four Hoops. That's 193 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:31.080 not enough to get me in a Chuck E Cheese, 194 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.720 But they're trying to get people like. 195 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:37.240 Me in the Chuck E Cheese. It's not gonna work. Quote. 196 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:40.320 Chuck E Cheese has spent decades mastering their arcade experience. 197 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:45.440 It's in our DNA. That's David mckillops, CEO. Chuck's Arcade 198 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:49.039 is a natural evolution, an opportunity to extend our arcade, 199 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:53.440 our arcade legacy into new formats that engage both lifelong 200 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:56.159 fans and a new generation through a curated mix of 201 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:59.320 retro classics and cutting edge experiences. 202 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:04.759 The DNA was in the ballpit or on the slide. Yeah, 203 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:06.679 it could be in both places. It's not either or 204 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:07.120 a property. 205 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:09.639 No, Actually, it's it's on the it's on the salad bar. 206 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:15.679 It's there's DNA on on the game control handles. It's 207 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:20.080 that these these little crumb snatchers leave DNA everywhere. 208 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:23.559 I don't know if they ever cleaned the place ever, 209 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:25.159 or at least the one of the cars that I went 210 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:27.679 to was never clean. How would you clean the ballpit? No, no, 211 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:31.360 I'll tull I watched it. They there was a report 212 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:34.039 of a diaper. This this is the last time I went. 213 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:38.600 My son was what eight, and we went to a 214 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:41.200 birthday party there and there was at there was a 215 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:45.440 report of a diaper left in the ballpit. And what 216 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:48.240 they did is they came with a big like trash 217 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.639 bind scooped all the balls out and put them in 218 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:55.360 this solution. They spray the pit, mopped the pit, and 219 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:57.440 then I guess they took the balls in the back 220 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:00.120 and rinsed them really, you know, lathered them up and 221 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:02.320 brought the balls back and put them back in the 222 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:04.000 pit for kids to jump right back in. 223 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:05.200 Just burn it to the ground. 224 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:08.879 I remember the first time I went to Chuck E Cheese, 225 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:11.279 there was a it seemed like an older brother younger 226 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:14.639 brother combination playing ski ball and the older brother would 227 00:13:14.679 --> 00:13:16.919 hand the ball to the younger brother and he would 228 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:18.799 run up on the lane and drop it yeah in 229 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:21.480 the top, and the tickets would come out, and I'm saying. 230 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:25.399 Like, is anyone watching this? No, no, is anyone gonna 231 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:26.399 intervene no mo. 232 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:30.759 I literally saw a mother there with at least three 233 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.759 or four kids, and she was just going around, just 234 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:35.879 making sure that she had each kid come to the 235 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.600 last last one on the end, and she was just 236 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:41.120 putting the balls in there, taking tickets and saying, go 237 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:42.240 go go, go to the counter. 238 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:44.759 Next he had come up here, ching ching, dang dick. 239 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:49.120 I'm like, what in the hell is this ghetto fabulous? 240 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:50.720 And this happened to get this place. 241 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:53.519 Look, I've been to Chuck E Cheese enough times with 242 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:57.000 my kids to know that is where the best fights 243 00:13:57.080 --> 00:14:03.639 jump off. Surprisingly, TMZ was they're capturing all the squabbles 244 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:04.720 you know, all the time. 245 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.200 But damn that I thought it was normal. 246 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:10.159 I thought when you go to a pizza place, a 247 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:13.679 fight breaking out was normal. I'm being serious because Chuck 248 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:16.679 E Cheese people were always getting into it. The kids 249 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:18.519 were getting into it, the parents were getting into it. 250 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:20.840 Parents were getting into it with someone else's kids, which 251 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:22.879 make the parents of the kid who was getting into it. 252 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:25.159 The parents get into it, and I'm thinking, like, Okay, 253 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:27.120 this is what it's supposed to happen. And then I 254 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:30.559 went like to Roundtable and shakey. It's like everyone was polite. Yeah, 255 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.120 they deserve the food. There what kind of place of this? 256 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:37.840 There's just no entertainment. There's no fights. 257 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:40.159 Now at an adult Chuck E Cheese because of the 258 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:43.200 scar tissue that I've experienced at Chuck E Cheese. All 259 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:47.399 I imagine then is fights either in the arcade or 260 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:49.720 in the parking lot, just adult level. 261 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:50.960 I don't want to be near that. 262 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:55.000 What is Chuck E Cheese doing to rebrand their imaging 263 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:57.279 as the place to go to brawl? 264 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:02.399 I don't know if misspac band is a solution to 265 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:05.080 all of their problems. I know that they're having to 266 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:09.320 reinvent themselves, and it's difficult in a world where going 267 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:11.559 to a pizza parlor is probably not at the top 268 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:12.480 of anyone's list. 269 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:14.080 Going to a pizza. 270 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:17.080 Parlor and having a kid's birthday party is not the 271 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:19.159 type of flex that it used to be twenty five 272 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:22.720 thirty years ago. I'm not going to Chuck E Cheese 273 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:24.720 so I can play Miss pac Man. 274 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:28.320 I don't know who that is actually four. 275 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:31.639 Not only can I play Miss pac Man at home, 276 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:33.840 I don't have to pay for it and I don't 277 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:37.039 have to check my six Okay, quick. 278 00:15:36.919 --> 00:15:39.000 Question, quock question? And I may have missed this because 279 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:43.480 I didn't hear you say it. Are they still having 280 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:46.480 the animatronic band at this adult. 281 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:48.879 No, they didn't say that. I thought they got rid 282 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:52.320 of the animatronic band. I don't know if it's a 283 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:53.279 part of it anymore. 284 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:55.320 You need that. It's not chuck E cheese without it. 285 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:57.360 The last time I heard they got rid of it, 286 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:59.360 and it's now like a digital screen. 287 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.480 But even at the even at this adult one, are 288 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:07.440 you going to have a digital weird you know, death 289 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:08.960 Murder band. 290 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:12.039 Of monkey shines? I don't know are you going to 291 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:12.320 do that? 292 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:17.200 Because as a gen xer or millennial, why would you 293 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:19.000 go to a place that has that. 294 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:21.600 And if you don't have it, why are you calling 295 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:23.360 it chuck e cheese? Al Right? I got something better? 296 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:24.720 You ready for this? All right? We're right. 297 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:28.559 It's a cat arcade in California in the city of 298 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:31.799 Rightwood called the per Ground. I gotta go to this 299 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:37.080 family run cat arcade with video games that houses adoptable cats. 300 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:40.679 I thought this is a real place. I think we've 301 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:41.639 got a Stephan. 302 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:43.559 You're correct, he wants to tell us that he's an 303 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:45.840 adult all these times, and now he's talking about going 304 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:46.720 to a cat arcade. 305 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:49.559 You're damn right. 306 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:54.480 I think I think we've got our next dude's day 307 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:56.879 trip lined up here the per ground. 308 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:00.360 Where is it again? Right Wood? Where is that? 309 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:02.879 I think that's something like an hour and a half away. Yeah, 310 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:05.960 that's an hour and a half away. Well worth it? 311 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:06.119 Is it? 312 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:06.400 Still? 313 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:09.240 Miss pac Man and Dunkey call, Let's see what they got. 314 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:11.279 You know they have home versions of that, right, you 315 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:11.640 know that? 316 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:12.160 Right? Yeah? 317 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.519 But you get a you get to play around cats. 318 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:18.519 And you know I'm a dog guy, right, Well I'm 319 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:20.920 a dog. I'm a dog guy too. But I would 320 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:23.960 I would actually go with you. I'm just so allergic 321 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:26.960 to cats, but I would love to see this Space 322 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:31.400 Invaders rampage the old school arcade cabinet games, but with cats. 323 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:33.599 With cats. Yeah, that's actually. 324 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:36.519 Cats like running around on the floor. Yeah, while you're 325 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:38.960 eating and everything. I don't know about the food situation. 326 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:42.880 There does appear to be tables, yeah, and the cats 327 00:17:43.400 --> 00:17:47.000 and cats look somewhat bewildered. I think this looks like fun, 328 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:49.400 much more fun than a chucky sound a cleaner than 329 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:54.400 a check cheese. Well except cat litter in the corner 330 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:57.200 with DNA's from cats, not your children licking doorknock. 331 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:00.359 Does it make a difference, honestly if it's cat darn? 332 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.359 Oh yeah, because cats are cuter than children, and they 333 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:05.279 don't grow up to tell you that you embarrass them 334 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:06.480 and to give them money. 335 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.920 I'm not trying to take them home with me. Well, 336 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:10.960 that's the goal of the cat arcade. You can adopt 337 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:14.599 the cats. You can't. 338 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:20.559 You can'tnot adopt kids. 339 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:21.440 Discouraged from taking home children from from chuck e cheese 340 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:27.720 if you didn't bring them on. Yeah, that's that's called trafficking, can't. 341 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:31.720 I am six forty we live everywherey iHeartRadio app. Goodness, Mark, 342 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:40.000 I'm giving you time to reset like the life cerial 343 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:41.160 Michy of cats. 344 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:46.119 Here you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand 345 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:48.400 from KFI A M six forty. 346 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:00.720 Styes Later with mo Kelly Live Everywhere now Heart Radio App. 347 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:04.359 And I got to tell you I fell in love 348 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:08.759 somewhere some time along the way with all things Dick Wolf. 349 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:11.279 That's law and Order, doesn't matter. 350 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:14.279 If it's Law and Order, Law and Order SVU, law 351 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:19.359 and Order, organized crime, criminal intent, doesn't matter. Love them all. 352 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:22.160 The only one that I didn't like was do you 353 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:22.960 remember when they. 354 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:25.880 Did Law and Order Los Angeles It was off for 355 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:26.839 like half a season. 356 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:29.119 Yeah, it didn't make it. It did not make it. 357 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:30.759 It was bad. It was bad. 358 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:33.880 And one of the episodes it actually featured Harbor City 359 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:36.720 where I grew up. Yeah, and I thought that was 360 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:39.720 kind of a recipe for success because LA Law and 361 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:41.039 Order it did not. 362 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:43.279 It did not last. Man. I thought it was like 363 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:44.079 a plug and play. 364 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:47.640 You just have the law and Order procedural, Just change 365 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:51.680 the city, that's it. Change some of the actors, you 366 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:54.440 you know, do some crossovers every now and then and 367 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:55.480 it'll be fine. 368 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:57.119 But that doesn't always work. 369 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:00.559 But Law and Order, by and large, it has worked 370 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:04.799 despite wherever they put it. I did not know until 371 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:07.000 like maybe last week or so, there was a Law 372 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:11.319 and Order Toronto Criminal Intent, which has already had one 373 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:14.640 season in Canada and the CW has picked it up 374 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:17.920 for two seasons. But season one is going to start 375 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:22.920 airing here on the CW September twenty fourth. I'm thinking, 376 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:25.599 like number one, how did I not know this? And 377 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:28.640 number two, I wonder I don't know this? And it 378 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:30.839 is a Dick Wolf production, or at least he's getting 379 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:34.160 credit for it. I wonder whether this might be the 380 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:38.039 beginning of a trend where you start farming out these 381 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:41.960 really populous shows but put them in different cities, like 382 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:46.279 you had CSI and you had CSI Miami, what have you? 383 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:50.079 Or you have Chicago PD, Chicago Med and everything. But 384 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:54.359 if they started doing that internationally, I could see how 385 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:59.039 that could catch on, and Law and Order Toronto CI 386 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:03.240 Criminal Intent might be the beginning of that. Because when 387 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:07.000 we talk about how television and movie production has left, 388 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:12.799 California has left the United States in some instances. For example, 389 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:16.640 the show Suits which was on originally it was the 390 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:20.519 USA Network and then they put it on Netflix or 391 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:22.680 it should they re licensed it to Netflix and became 392 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:23.960 a big hit out of that. 393 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:28.000 They tried Suits La which bomb bom bombs. Yeah, it 394 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:30.599 must be LA. Just not to do so once in LA. 395 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:35.000 Yeah, well, you can't do another lawyer show in LA 396 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:37.799 because anything is going to peal to LA law. You 397 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:40.079 can't do another show like you would think. 398 00:21:39.880 --> 00:21:42.640 That, but LA lost forty years in the mirror now 399 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:45.839 rearview mirror, but it's not the same television audience. 400 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:49.559 Yeah, maybe maybe, But I think that that was something 401 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:52.279