Speaker 1: Oho Wimbo Kelly one.
Speaker 2: Six from executive producers Lebron James, Maverick Carter and award
Speaker 2: winning director Chris Ayre, The History Channel's new documentary Jim Thorpe,
Speaker 2: lit By Lightning, offers a comprehensive exploration into the life
Speaker 2: and legacy of the legendary Olympian and one of the
Speaker 2: greatest all around athletes in our nation's history. Acclaimed filmmaker
Speaker 2: Chris air tells the untold story of, as I said,
Speaker 2: America's arguably greatest athlete of all time, a man who
Speaker 2: played in the NFL, in Major League Baseball, and a
Speaker 2: multi gold medalist at the nineteen twelve Games.
Speaker 3: Jim Thorpe. I haven't seen that level of greatness in
Speaker 3: so many sports.
Speaker 4: And yet not many people remember his name.
Speaker 1: Growing up on the reservation, he liked challenging his own body.
Speaker 1: That was like a natural cross training. Jim Thorpe was
Speaker 1: made for football.
Speaker 4: He's running, he's kicking, he's tackling. Jim plays every minute
Speaker 4: of a game, offense and defense. Jim Thorpe is at
Speaker 4: the top of his game, and yet he was about
Speaker 4: to level up again.
Speaker 2: Of his achievement at the Stockholm Olympics.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen that level of greatness.
Speaker 4: The gold medals were taken away from it was an
Speaker 4: enormous injustice.
Speaker 6: Americans didn't see indigenous peoples as human beings.
Speaker 1: He really created that sport.
Speaker 5: He was the greatest athlete of all time and one
Speaker 5: of the greatest Americans who ever lived. Jim Thorpe Lit
Speaker 5: by Lightning premieres Monday, July seventh and eighth part of
Speaker 5: History Honors two fifty only on the History Channel.
Speaker 2: And Chris Air joins me now on the show. Chris,
Speaker 2: good evening. Thank you for your work.
Speaker 7: Great mode. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it, and
Speaker 7: I'm excited to talk about Jim Thorpe Lit by Lightning.
Speaker 1: I am a student of history.
Speaker 2: I'm a student of sports history as well, and I
Speaker 2: know that we have multiple generations which have grown up
Speaker 2: with no knowledge of the significance and greatness of Jim Thorpe.
Speaker 2: And that's probably why, or at least part of the
Speaker 2: reason why you've done Jim Thorpe Lit by Lightning. But
Speaker 2: just top line for me, the significance of his contributions
Speaker 2: and exploits in telling the fullness of American history.
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's important that we tell these stories
Speaker 7: so people remember, we can reconfer on why somebody is
Speaker 7: regarded with the admiration that they are. And Jim Thorpe
Speaker 7: is part of that story. I mean, when you talk about,
Speaker 7: you know, his accomplishments in athletics, they're still unparallel to
Speaker 7: anyone else. When you talk about Lebron James, who's endorsed
Speaker 7: this and as an executive producer and a goat himself,
Speaker 7: and he's saying Jim Thorpe is the greatest athlete of
Speaker 7: all time and one of the greatest Americans that ever lived.
Speaker 7: It really gives you the scope of what we're talking
Speaker 7: about here. So you know, the likes of which you know,
Speaker 7: Barry Bonds, of Deon Sanders and Michael Jordan, all of
Speaker 7: these are great, great goats. But Jim Thorpe is in
Speaker 7: a category by himself. Like you said, he played professional
Speaker 7: football in which he won nine championships with the Canton
Speaker 7: Bulldogs of the American Football League which would become the NFL.
Speaker 7: Jim Thorpe was the first president of the American Football League,
Speaker 7: which became the NFL, So he is connected to the
Speaker 7: history and the continuum of football today. He won collegiate
Speaker 7: football championships against Penn State, against Harvard, and ultimately against
Speaker 7: Army in a very famous game against Dwight Eisenhower, who
Speaker 7: became President of the United States. Dwight Eisenhower. You know,
Speaker 7: when Jim Thorpe passed away, wrote a telegram to his
Speaker 7: wife in which he recounted how much he'd thought of
Speaker 7: Jim Thorpe in those college days when he saw him
Speaker 7: and said there was no other football player that was
Speaker 7: comparable to him on that field that day. And then
Speaker 7: you look at things like he played professional baseball, he
Speaker 7: was a championship ballroom dancer, he played some basketball, and
Speaker 7: what you highlighted was the King of Sweden in nineteen
Speaker 7: twelve during the Stockholm Olympics touted him as the greatest
Speaker 7: athlete in the world because he won the fifteen event
Speaker 7: decathlon and the pentathlon gold medals in the same Olympics.
Speaker 1: So when you put all.
Speaker 7: That together, you recognize that no one else has had
Speaker 7: that kind of achievement. And as recently as two thousand,
Speaker 7: the Associated Press still voted him greatest athlete of all time,
Speaker 7: and last year, interestingly enough, President Biden awarded him the
Speaker 7: Presidential Medal of Freedom. And in twenty twenty two, the
Speaker 7: Olympic Committee reinstated his gold medals that were taking away
Speaker 7: due to a controversy. So he's the sole winner of
Speaker 7: his own gold medals from the nineteen yeah the nineteen
Speaker 7: twelve Stockholm Olympics.
Speaker 2: Chris, do we know what motivated him to excel? Was
Speaker 2: it something internal? Was it external with what was going
Speaker 2: on in America at that time with him being an
Speaker 2: indigenous athlete?
Speaker 1: What do you think motivated him?
Speaker 7: That's the greatest question. And for me as a filmmaker,
Speaker 7: I think my first job is to entertain and the
Speaker 7: second job is to really look at what drives the
Speaker 7: character beyond the headlines of the accomplishments. And so with
Speaker 7: Jim Thorpe, I actually can see something, you know inside
Speaker 7: of him that I recognize as a native person. He
Speaker 7: was born in eighteen eighty seven on the Second Fox
Speaker 7: Indian Reservation. There was thunder and lightning all around the
Speaker 7: night of his birth, and his mother named him, which
Speaker 7: translates in English to bright path. By age nine, he
Speaker 7: had lost his twin brother to pneumonia. By age eleven,
Speaker 7: he'd lost both of his parents. He was taken forcibly
Speaker 7: to Haskell Indian School, where he ran away multiple times
Speaker 7: back home to Oklahoma, and finally he was taken to Carlisle,
Speaker 7: Pennsylvania at age eleven years old and put there because
Speaker 7: he couldn't run away anymore. And when I think about
Speaker 7: somebody who comes from those beginnings, I started to recognize
Speaker 7: that he needed a channel, you know, he needed a
Speaker 7: place to put his emotion, his anger, his passion. And
Speaker 7: sports became that vehicle. And I think to myself, if
Speaker 7: he wouldn't have had sports, what might have become of him.
Speaker 7: But he did all this before you know, social media
Speaker 7: and thumb likes and endorsements, million dollar deals. He did
Speaker 7: all this for a different reason. He did all this
Speaker 7: for the passion of competition and the love of winning.
Speaker 1: Hey, Chris, let me jumping there. Let me jumping there.
Speaker 2: Because yes, he did it before social media and all
Speaker 2: of these accoutrement that we come to know as normal today.
Speaker 2: But what do you think Jim Thorpe might have become
Speaker 2: as far as the figure, well the size of his
Speaker 2: legacy if he had been born in the in the
Speaker 2: world of ESPN, in the world of TikTok, the world
Speaker 2: of social media, more generally.
Speaker 7: I don't know exactly, mo I mean, that's the honest answer,
Speaker 7: but I can I can say that I like to
Speaker 7: think that he wouldn't have used those avenues for himself.
Speaker 7: I think it was purely about the competition that he loved.
Speaker 7: But he's certainly had a humility that wasn't just about himself.
Speaker 7: And I can see that in his interviews. I can
Speaker 7: see that throughout his life that he worked hard. He was,
Speaker 7: you know, digging ditches in his later life, and I
Speaker 7: see in his face that he wasn't shamed by what
Speaker 7: he was doing. He was a prideful person that was
Speaker 7: making himself useful from a generation that knew how to work,
Speaker 7: a generation that came from the Great Depression, a generation
Speaker 7: that came from World War One, a generation in which
Speaker 7: he was put onto reservations, you know, as the first
Speaker 7: Indians on reservations. And so when he was out there,
Speaker 7: whether he was performing at his best as an athlete
Speaker 7: or working digging ditches, or he was in a hundred
Speaker 7: movies from the nineteen thirties in Hollywood, including King Kong,
Speaker 7: he was working. He was not feeling sorry for himself.
Speaker 7: He was putting one foot in front of the other,
Speaker 7: and he was taking what was given to him and
Speaker 7: turning it into success.
Speaker 2: Jim Thorpe lit by Lightning, directed by My guests Right
Speaker 2: Now Chris Air premierees Monday, July seventh at eight pm
Speaker 2: on the History Channel. Chris as I said at the beginning,
Speaker 2: I'm a student of history. I'm a student of sports history.
Speaker 2: So I am overjoyed that this was done, and I
Speaker 2: thank you for putting this together so this younger generation,
Speaker 2: this social media generation, can learn about and fall in
Speaker 2: love with Jim Thorpe as I did.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, sir, Thank.
Speaker 7: You, Moe. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: And we told you at the beginning of the show
Speaker 2: we would be monitoring the Dodger game to see if
Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw would be able to hit three thousand strikeouts
Speaker 2: this outing. It's now the top of the fifth the
Speaker 2: Chicago White Sox are playing at Dodger Stadium, Chicago White
Speaker 2: Sox are up four to two. Top of the fifth inning,
Speaker 2: they're two out. Clayton Kershaw is still two strikeouts away.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, two tryouts away. And so we're we're watching
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 5: To see there was a questionable call whether it was
Speaker 5: going to get a strike too on this batter.
Speaker 2: But I think you just walked to Chicago White Sox player.
Speaker 2: But we're watching. We'll let you know if Clayton Kershaw
Speaker 2: gets his three thousand strikeout tonight. So, speaking of games
Speaker 2: for adults, Chuck E Cheese and we've talked about Chuck
Speaker 2: E Cheese any number of times about how it's probably
Speaker 2: the last place you want to go unless you want
Speaker 2: to get into a fight or you know, get stabbed,
Speaker 2: or I don't know, have your kids get into some
Speaker 2: sort of altercation drive by shooting.
Speaker 1: Chuck E Cheese is a dangerous place to go. I'm
Speaker 1: just being honest.
Speaker 2: I've been there on a couple of occasions and fights
Speaker 2: have broken out, no exaggeration. Chuck E Cheese is self
Speaker 2: aware to a certain degree, and they're having to reinvent themselves.
Speaker 2: What they've proposed and have moved forward with doing is
Speaker 2: they're opening new locations with these adult arcades, not that
Speaker 2: type of adult, but adult as in catering to adults
Speaker 2: of I would say the millennial generation and Gen X
Speaker 2: generation as in arcade gabes. These new arcades will feature
Speaker 2: retro favorites like Biz Pac Band, Donkey Kong alongside modern
Speaker 2: titles including Jurassic Park, Halo, and Connect four Hoops. That's
Speaker 2: not enough to get me in a Chuck E Cheese,
Speaker 2: But they're trying to get people like.
Speaker 1: Me in the Chuck E Cheese. It's not gonna work. Quote.
Speaker 2: Chuck E Cheese has spent decades mastering their arcade experience.
Speaker 2: It's in our DNA. That's David mckillops, CEO. Chuck's Arcade
Speaker 2: is a natural evolution, an opportunity to extend our arcade,
Speaker 2: our arcade legacy into new formats that engage both lifelong
Speaker 2: fans and a new generation through a curated mix of
Speaker 2: retro classics and cutting edge experiences.
Speaker 5: The DNA was in the ballpit or on the slide. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it could be in both places. It's not either or
Speaker 5: a property.
Speaker 6: No, Actually, it's it's on the it's on the salad bar.
Speaker 6: It's there's DNA on on the game control handles. It's
Speaker 6: that these these little crumb snatchers leave DNA everywhere.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they ever cleaned the place ever,
Speaker 5: or at least the one of the cars that I went
Speaker 5: to was never clean. How would you clean the ballpit? No, no,
Speaker 5: I'll tull I watched it. They there was a report
Speaker 5: of a diaper. This this is the last time I went.
Speaker 6: My son was what eight, and we went to a
Speaker 6: birthday party there and there was at there was a
Speaker 6: report of a diaper left in the ballpit. And what
Speaker 6: they did is they came with a big like trash
Speaker 6: bind scooped all the balls out and put them in
Speaker 6: this solution. They spray the pit, mopped the pit, and
Speaker 6: then I guess they took the balls in the back
Speaker 6: and rinsed them really, you know, lathered them up and
Speaker 6: brought the balls back and put them back in the
Speaker 6: pit for kids to jump right back in.
Speaker 1: Just burn it to the ground.
Speaker 2: I remember the first time I went to Chuck E Cheese,
Speaker 2: there was a it seemed like an older brother younger
Speaker 2: brother combination playing ski ball and the older brother would
Speaker 2: hand the ball to the younger brother and he would
Speaker 2: run up on the lane and drop it yeah in
Speaker 2: the top, and the tickets would come out, and I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like, is anyone watching this? No, no, is anyone gonna
Speaker 1: intervene no mo.
Speaker 6: I literally saw a mother there with at least three
Speaker 6: or four kids, and she was just going around, just
Speaker 6: making sure that she had each kid come to the
Speaker 6: last last one on the end, and she was just
Speaker 6: putting the balls in there, taking tickets and saying, go
Speaker 6: go go, go to the counter.
Speaker 1: Next he had come up here, ching ching, dang dick.
Speaker 6: I'm like, what in the hell is this ghetto fabulous?
Speaker 1: And this happened to get this place.
Speaker 6: Look, I've been to Chuck E Cheese enough times with
Speaker 6: my kids to know that is where the best fights
Speaker 6: jump off. Surprisingly, TMZ was they're capturing all the squabbles
Speaker 6: you know, all the time.
Speaker 1: But damn that I thought it was normal.
Speaker 2: I thought when you go to a pizza place, a
Speaker 2: fight breaking out was normal. I'm being serious because Chuck
Speaker 2: E Cheese people were always getting into it. The kids
Speaker 2: were getting into it, the parents were getting into it.
Speaker 2: Parents were getting into it with someone else's kids, which
Speaker 2: make the parents of the kid who was getting into it.
Speaker 2: The parents get into it, and I'm thinking, like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is what it's supposed to happen. And then I
Speaker 2: went like to Roundtable and shakey. It's like everyone was polite. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they deserve the food. There what kind of place of this?
Speaker 1: There's just no entertainment. There's no fights.
Speaker 6: Now at an adult Chuck E Cheese because of the
Speaker 6: scar tissue that I've experienced at Chuck E Cheese. All
Speaker 6: I imagine then is fights either in the arcade or
Speaker 6: in the parking lot, just adult level.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be near that.
Speaker 5: What is Chuck E Cheese doing to rebrand their imaging
Speaker 5: as the place to go to brawl?
Speaker 2: I don't know if misspac band is a solution to
Speaker 2: all of their problems. I know that they're having to
Speaker 2: reinvent themselves, and it's difficult in a world where going
Speaker 2: to a pizza parlor is probably not at the top
Speaker 2: of anyone's list.
Speaker 1: Going to a pizza.
Speaker 2: Parlor and having a kid's birthday party is not the
Speaker 2: type of flex that it used to be twenty five
Speaker 2: thirty years ago. I'm not going to Chuck E Cheese
Speaker 2: so I can play Miss pac Man.
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is actually four.
Speaker 2: Not only can I play Miss pac Man at home,
Speaker 2: I don't have to pay for it and I don't
Speaker 2: have to check my six Okay, quick.
Speaker 6: Question, quock question? And I may have missed this because
Speaker 6: I didn't hear you say it. Are they still having
Speaker 6: the animatronic band at this adult.
Speaker 2: No, they didn't say that. I thought they got rid
Speaker 2: of the animatronic band. I don't know if it's a
Speaker 2: part of it anymore.
Speaker 1: You need that. It's not chuck E cheese without it.
Speaker 5: The last time I heard they got rid of it,
Speaker 5: and it's now like a digital screen.
Speaker 6: But even at the even at this adult one, are
Speaker 6: you going to have a digital weird you know, death
Speaker 6: Murder band.
Speaker 1: Of monkey shines? I don't know are you going to
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 5: Because as a gen xer or millennial, why would you
Speaker 5: go to a place that has that.
Speaker 1: And if you don't have it, why are you calling
Speaker 1: it chuck e cheese? Al Right? I got something better?
Speaker 1: You ready for this? All right? We're right.
Speaker 5: It's a cat arcade in California in the city of
Speaker 5: Rightwood called the per Ground. I gotta go to this
Speaker 5: family run cat arcade with video games that houses adoptable cats.
Speaker 1: I thought this is a real place. I think we've
Speaker 1: got a Stephan.
Speaker 2: You're correct, he wants to tell us that he's an
Speaker 2: adult all these times, and now he's talking about going
Speaker 2: to a cat arcade.
Speaker 1: You're damn right.
Speaker 5: I think I think we've got our next dude's day
Speaker 5: trip lined up here the per ground.
Speaker 1: Where is it again? Right Wood? Where is that?
Speaker 5: I think that's something like an hour and a half away. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's an hour and a half away. Well worth it?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 1: Still?
Speaker 5: Miss pac Man and Dunkey call, Let's see what they got.
Speaker 5: You know they have home versions of that, right, you
Speaker 5: know that?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 5: But you get a you get to play around cats.
Speaker 5: And you know I'm a dog guy, right, Well I'm
Speaker 5: a dog. I'm a dog guy too. But I would
Speaker 5: I would actually go with you. I'm just so allergic
Speaker 5: to cats, but I would love to see this Space
Speaker 5: Invaders rampage the old school arcade cabinet games, but with cats.
Speaker 1: With cats. Yeah, that's actually.
Speaker 5: Cats like running around on the floor. Yeah, while you're
Speaker 5: eating and everything. I don't know about the food situation.
Speaker 5: There does appear to be tables, yeah, and the cats
Speaker 5: and cats look somewhat bewildered. I think this looks like fun,
Speaker 5: much more fun than a chucky sound a cleaner than
Speaker 5: a check cheese. Well except cat litter in the corner
Speaker 5: with DNA's from cats, not your children licking doorknock.
Speaker 1: Does it make a difference, honestly if it's cat darn?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because cats are cuter than children, and they
Speaker 5: don't grow up to tell you that you embarrass them
Speaker 5: and to give them money.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take them home with me. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the goal of the cat arcade. You can adopt
Speaker 1: the cats. You can't.
Speaker 6: You can'tnot adopt kids.
Speaker 5: Discouraged from taking home children from from chuck e cheese
Speaker 5: if you didn't bring them on. Yeah, that's that's called trafficking, can't.
Speaker 5: I am six forty we live everywherey iHeartRadio app. Goodness, Mark,
Speaker 5: I'm giving you time to reset like the life cerial
Speaker 5: Michy of cats.
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Speaker 2: And I got to tell you I fell in love
Speaker 2: somewhere some time along the way with all things Dick Wolf.
Speaker 1: That's law and Order, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: If it's Law and Order, Law and Order SVU, law
Speaker 2: and Order, organized crime, criminal intent, doesn't matter. Love them all.
Speaker 2: The only one that I didn't like was do you
Speaker 2: remember when they.
Speaker 5: Did Law and Order Los Angeles It was off for
Speaker 5: like half a season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't make it. It did not make it.
Speaker 1: It was bad. It was bad.
Speaker 2: And one of the episodes it actually featured Harbor City
Speaker 2: where I grew up. Yeah, and I thought that was
Speaker 2: kind of a recipe for success because LA Law and
Speaker 2: Order it did not.
Speaker 1: It did not last. Man. I thought it was like
Speaker 1: a plug and play.
Speaker 2: You just have the law and Order procedural, Just change
Speaker 2: the city, that's it. Change some of the actors, you
Speaker 2: you know, do some crossovers every now and then and
Speaker 2: it'll be fine.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't always work.
Speaker 2: But Law and Order, by and large, it has worked
Speaker 2: despite wherever they put it. I did not know until
Speaker 2: like maybe last week or so, there was a Law
Speaker 2: and Order Toronto Criminal Intent, which has already had one
Speaker 2: season in Canada and the CW has picked it up
Speaker 2: for two seasons. But season one is going to start
Speaker 2: airing here on the CW September twenty fourth. I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: like number one, how did I not know this? And
Speaker 2: number two, I wonder I don't know this? And it
Speaker 2: is a Dick Wolf production, or at least he's getting
Speaker 2: credit for it. I wonder whether this might be the
Speaker 2: beginning of a trend where you start farming out these
Speaker 2: really populous shows but put them in different cities, like
Speaker 2: you had CSI and you had CSI Miami, what have you?
Speaker 2: Or you have Chicago PD, Chicago Med and everything. But
Speaker 2: if they started doing that internationally, I could see how
Speaker 2: that could catch on, and Law and Order Toronto CI
Speaker 2: Criminal Intent might be the beginning of that. Because when
Speaker 2: we talk about how television and movie production has left,
Speaker 2: California has left the United States in some instances. For example,
Speaker 2: the show Suits which was on originally it was the
Speaker 2: USA Network and then they put it on Netflix or
Speaker 2: it should they re licensed it to Netflix and became
Speaker 2: a big hit out of that.
Speaker 1: They tried Suits La which bomb bom bombs. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: must be LA. Just not to do so once in LA.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you can't do another lawyer show in LA
Speaker 6: because anything is going to peal to LA law. You
Speaker 6: can't do another show like you would think.
Speaker 2: That, but LA lost forty years in the mirror now
Speaker 2: rearview mirror, but it's not the same television audience.
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe maybe, But I think that that was something
Speaker 6: that hit because there has not been a good legal
Speaker 6: show in LA since then. So there's something about what
Speaker 6: they captured in LA Law and especially. I mean, I
Speaker 6: think the reason that Law and Order LA did work
Speaker 6: is because here in LA all we ever think about
Speaker 6: is cops, uniformed officers. In Los Angeles, cops shows working.
Speaker 6: Cops shows work because we're too familiar with cops.
Speaker 1: We're not. We don't ever see or think.
Speaker 5: About detectives in the city of Angels We just don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's even a long Beach PD show my wife
Speaker 1: was washing. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was on Prime or Netflix.
Speaker 2: But also, and it was it was actually directed by
Speaker 2: Eric Lesau. Oh yes, and he also directed Chicago PD.
Speaker 2: So the police procedural works here in LA. You talk
Speaker 2: about nine to one one or all all of those shows?
Speaker 5: Wait, was that a reality show or am I thinking
Speaker 5: of no, the one with Angela Bassett.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, never mind that, I was thinking of something else.
Speaker 1: I think that's the name of it. But I'm saying
Speaker 1: nine or something. Yeah, where follows the Cops?
Speaker 2: I'd forgot no, no, no, no, no no, not a reality show.
Speaker 6: This is oh okay, yeah, nine one one is with
Speaker 6: Angela Bassett that that's cops and firefighters and the like,
Speaker 6: and those things work in LA because that's our familiarity,
Speaker 6: that's what we see on TV. In a city like
Speaker 6: New York, you may be as big as it is
Speaker 6: and how things may get hidden a lot more. I
Speaker 6: can see how we all think about detectives have to
Speaker 6: get into that nitty gritty because how do you find
Speaker 6: anything in New York. It's just too big, too expansive,
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. I wonder though, for me, I'd
Speaker 6: like to see a Law and Order shot somewhere in Asia,
Speaker 6: whether it's Law and Order, Tokyo Law and Order, just
Speaker 6: something like that, because I'd beg into that.
Speaker 1: We're on the same page, because I think that's coming.
Speaker 2: I think when you have a Law and Order CI
Speaker 2: Toronto CI, you've always then acknowledged that Law and Order
Speaker 2: with its twenty five seasons, the original has a worldwide recognition.
Speaker 2: It's a worldwide brand, and now since TV is accessible
Speaker 2: anywhere everywhere. It's not even probably an American perceived property.
Speaker 2: It's just a show. And since it's a procedural, you
Speaker 2: can do.
Speaker 5: That just about anywhere on any continent if you apply
Speaker 5: the same formula. And look, if you put us away,
Speaker 5: it's Canada.
Speaker 2: If you could do it in Canada, I'm sure you
Speaker 2: could do it in Tokyo. A Law and Order Tokyo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that would work. Yeah, sign me up, sign me up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and we've seen I'll say, did you ever see? I know,
Speaker 2: Mark did Tokyo Vice on HBO.
Speaker 1: It's really good.
Speaker 5: Yeah it was, and it basically was a cop procedural
Speaker 5: at its heart. Well with a reporter, but you know,
Speaker 5: a reporter is essentially detective without a gun.
Speaker 2: But you can see how we will translate, no pun intended.
Speaker 2: It would definitely work. Wait, wait minute, we're kipping over something.
Speaker 1: Mark. Don't you have a connection to Law and Order?
Speaker 5: I wrote tons of Law and Order mobile game scripts
Speaker 5: for NBC Universal, to the point where I thought I
Speaker 5: could represent myself in court if I had to. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I got the formula down. I watched something like two
Speaker 5: hundred episodes before I put pen to paper, so it's
Speaker 5: in my DNA. It's just for a callback there to
Speaker 5: the ballpit law and orders totally in my DNA. We
Speaker 5: got to do a law and order KFI for all
Speaker 5: the stuff that goes on around here. We need someone
Speaker 5: to solve.
Speaker 2: We need someone to solve the mystery of who took
Speaker 2: a dump in the middle of the bathroom on the
Speaker 2: fourth floor.
Speaker 1: That is it should be a capital crime.
Speaker 5: And it seems it seems Kershaw just got his three
Speaker 5: thousand strikeout. Yes, he just got his three thousand strikeout
Speaker 5: right now against the Chicago White Sox and they're stopping
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 2: Two. You may not be a baseball historian, but you're
Speaker 2: looking at most likely the last picture to get three
Speaker 2: thousand strikeouts in a major league. Now, there's Chris Sale
Speaker 2: who has twenty five hundred. He's thirty six years old.
Speaker 2: He has an outside shot, depends on how long he's
Speaker 2: able to play at a certain level. But for a
Speaker 2: pitcher to get three thousand strikeouts in today's game, where
Speaker 2: you have middle relievers, you have setup men, closers, you
Speaker 2: don't have pictures pitching as many innings or throwing as
Speaker 2: many pitches in a game as they did in previous generations.
Speaker 2: So Clayton Kershaw, first ballot Hall of Famer, one of
Speaker 2: the greatest to ever pitch in the Dodgers' uniform.
Speaker 5: And I say that inclusive of Sandy Kofax. And I
Speaker 5: know that's high praise, but there's evidence to support it.
Speaker 5: An absolute legend, three thousand strikeouts. It's Later with Mo
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Speaker 1: Tays Conway Show tomorrow at four pm.
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Speaker 1: Did you really put the show together? Stefan? Did you?
Speaker 1: I really did? Is it really funny?
Speaker 2: Well you have to listen to find out. Okay, that's
Speaker 2: a nice tease. I'll definitely be listening. Okay, well maybe
Speaker 2: not because I won't be here tomorrow. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: we'll tell you about it later. Oh yeah, Buried the lead.
Speaker 2: What is probably the worst part of going to the movies.
Speaker 2: Is there one particular thing that we all can agree on?
Speaker 2: Not everyone has to deal with kids kicking the back
Speaker 2: of their chair. I have, but not all of us.
Speaker 2: Not all of us have to deal with a dirty theater.
Speaker 2: I've dealt with it, maybe you have, but not everyone
Speaker 2: has the same experience. Is there one thing that we
Speaker 2: all universally dislike when it comes to going to the
Speaker 2: movie theater.
Speaker 1: It's to love, to cry, to care because we need that.
Speaker 3: All of us.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, Nicole Kidman is part of it.
Speaker 2: What if I told you that AMC Theaters, the biggest
Speaker 2: theater chain in the United States, is going to add
Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty minutes of previews before the movie starts.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about just video content. You know, you
Speaker 2: come in and sit down in your chair, and they
Speaker 2: have all sorts of like trivia games and have short
Speaker 2: little vignettes.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about twenty five to thirty minutes of previews
Speaker 2: on top.
Speaker 1: Of what you're there for.
Speaker 2: So if the school, if the movie start time says
Speaker 2: two PM, that's when the twenty five to thirty minutes
Speaker 2: of previews will begin.
Speaker 1: And I get it. You have these movie theaters which
Speaker 1: are struggling.
Speaker 2: We talk about it every single week, and I said
Speaker 2: that you need a movie not only to do well,
Speaker 2: but you need a movie to do well enough for
Speaker 2: people to want to come to the theaters during the week.
Speaker 2: Because they're open seven days a week.
Speaker 5: It's not like they just come in on Friday, Saturday,
Speaker 5: Sunday and that's enough to keep the doors open Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 2: So you need people to support the movie theater every
Speaker 2: single day. But in absence of that, they have to
Speaker 2: make money somehow. And if you're not there to see
Speaker 2: the movie during the week, or if a movie underperforms
Speaker 2: and they have like theaters or Mark will tell you
Speaker 2: about where.
Speaker 1: He was literally the only person in the theater.
Speaker 5: That happens pretty often. Yeah, that's not sustainable. These movie
Speaker 5: theaters are looking for new ways to bring in other
Speaker 5: forms of revenue. If you're not going to be there
Speaker 5: but in seat also purchasing concessions, then there has to
Speaker 5: be something else in which they can charge money for.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, advertisements and it's the bane of our existence.
Speaker 5: One of the hardest things to deal with are one
Speaker 5: of the most obtrusive things to deal with in.
Speaker 1: Streaming media is now ads are everywhere.
Speaker 2: You might have paid for the originally highest tier where
Speaker 2: you have a subscription price, and you're paying for the
Speaker 2: highest subscription price and you're still seeing ads, like.
Speaker 5: Amazon or Netflix or Hulu, that's so obnoxious. You pay
Speaker 5: for a ticket, just like when you pay for a
Speaker 5: streaming subscription and you still have to watch commercials on it,
Speaker 5: still have to. I despise that, and some of the
Speaker 5: streaming services they're not obtrusive like I think with It
Speaker 5: depends on your tier, but Amazon, you either get all
Speaker 5: the ads at the beginning of the movie, and depending
Speaker 5: on the tier, you may get some over the course
Speaker 5: of the movie.
Speaker 1: Whatever you're watching now.
Speaker 5: I know some people are watching our YouTube stream right
Speaker 5: now and complaining about the ads which you're popping up.
Speaker 2: We're working on it. We're working on it. We're doing
Speaker 2: the best we can. But I think universally that's what
Speaker 2: we most dislike about the movies. Now, if there's a
Speaker 2: trailer to that, if you are hoping to see you
Speaker 2: or you're excited to see that's different.
Speaker 5: But that's one or two at the most. We're talking
Speaker 5: about up to a half an hour. A bull before
Speaker 5: you even get to the movie.
Speaker 2: And if you're like Mark Rodger, who's a night owl
Speaker 2: and he leaves here at let's say midnight, and he
Speaker 2: gets to his twelve thirty movie, the movie's not gonna
Speaker 2: start until one am at the earliest. Now, what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do for the few times that I'll go to
Speaker 2: a movie theater, I am going to explicitly, if I'm
Speaker 2: going to AMC, my favorite theater, if it says start
Speaker 2: talking the movie two thirty, I'll roll my ass in
Speaker 2: there at three o'clock. Why Why Because most of the
Speaker 2: AMC theaters are reserved seating. I don't need to get
Speaker 2: there early to save a seat, and if a fool
Speaker 2: is sitting in my seat, we'll just have a misunderstanding.
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna get there early because usually I
Speaker 2: would get there like fifteen twenty minutes before the start
Speaker 2: talking about movie. So I get my food, go to
Speaker 2: the restroom because I'm an old man, I got to
Speaker 2: do that before the movie starts. Then sit down, check
Speaker 2: my messages on my phone, whatever, so I can turn
Speaker 2: on my phone and I'm ready for the movie. But
Speaker 2: if I have an extra half hour, you know why,
Speaker 2: am I gonna rush in there. Don't you have like
Speaker 2: an AMC subscription?
Speaker 1: I do, I do.
Speaker 6: I have the pass and I use it a lot.
Speaker 6: I'll be using again this week, and I can't remember
Speaker 6: what I'm gonna go see. But now I know that
Speaker 6: I don't have to rush in. I can go and
Speaker 6: actually let my daughter order her chicken fingers, and i'd
Speaker 6: be like, we're gonna.
Speaker 1: Miss the trailers. I can say, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, no, you got time. How long is
Speaker 1: it gonna be? That'd be about fifteen to twenty minutes.
Speaker 6: Sure, put on two, give me, give me the impossible
Speaker 6: nuggets in one of those little mini burgers.
Speaker 2: And we all know the impossible nuggets could take at
Speaker 2: least a half an hour at least.
Speaker 5: Still at least and you still the trailer still work.
Speaker 5: There was still I caught like the last three.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So this is good for everyone who's used to
Speaker 6: being late real quick though, And I know how much
Speaker 6: you wanted to hear just a little taste of what
Speaker 6: it was like when kersher I hit three thousand.
Speaker 1: We have just a moment it happened.
Speaker 8: Okay, so far, that's all I could capture, all right,
Speaker 8: Ervine risers ready to eruct.
Speaker 1: Oh, he planned that three K for Kurshaw, got it?
Speaker 8: He is probably probably practicing the mirror three k Kershaw,
Speaker 8: three k the Kershaw. He probably did like a well,
Speaker 8: we have a shatt with three K for Kershaw, three
Speaker 8: K for Kershaw. Let's hear one more time because he practiced.
Speaker 8: I want to give him his money's worth.
Speaker 2: Irvine risers ready to eruct, Ready, turn for hers all.
Speaker 2: I'll say that it's good that he didn't step on it. Afterwards,
Speaker 2: he just let the crowd tell the story after that.
Speaker 2: If you've ever listened to the late Vin Scully, he
Speaker 2: was a master at that. He didn't try to fill
Speaker 2: the time with unnecessary words. It's almost counterintuitive. You think
Speaker 2: you have to describe everything. You have to let everyone
Speaker 2: know what's going on. What is Kershaw doing? Is he
Speaker 2: walking back to the dougt. No, just let the crowd
Speaker 2: tell the story. Vin Scully was a master at that.
Speaker 2: He would say a word or two and then he
Speaker 2: would get out of the way and let everyone just
Speaker 2: soak in the moment. And a lot of announcers today
Speaker 2: they don't understand that, and I can't really second guess
Speaker 2: them or what they're being told to do, but sometimes
Speaker 2: they talk too much and we don't get to enjoy
Speaker 2: the moment. I was kidding with him about the three
Speaker 2: K for Kershaw, but he obviously took a page out
Speaker 2: of Vin Scully's book, Just Get out of the Way.
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