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late Christmas to your brother and it'll be a happy
New Year as well. The next time we speak.
Speaker 4: How are you doing man, I'm phenomenal, I am doing great.
I'm with both of my boys right now running errands.
The quickest way to a man's heart is through his stomach.
The quickest way to missus Tavinari is by picking up
the groceries for her. Ooh, I am running errands right now,
my friend.
Speaker 2: That is good.
Speaker 3: Hey, you got the boys showing them the proper way
to do things. I remember my dad taking me to
the grocery store and helping me get the carl washing
and he's like, look, just tell your mom's good.
Speaker 2: Side and to her heart is this way. So you're
not wrong about that.
Speaker 3: But the way to Cougar Nations heart is Now that
football season is I can't say officially over because I'm
always gonna get pinged about suff but now that it's
the games are over, it is now time to go
all in on basketball. And the Big twelve opener on
the road against Kansas.
Speaker 2: State is Saturday.
Speaker 3: JT give me a preview of breakdown of this game.
I think this is pivotal to set the tone because
you go Kansas State at home, the Arizona State next Wednesday,
and then you go to Utah next Saturday. These are
three big time games that b what you need to
start off conference play the right way.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, let's go from watching our top ten football
team play to watch our top ten basketball team to
have not a bad transition, my friend. And so you know,
I think that BUYU had a fantastic non conference schedule
right the way that that they played, and they overcame
adversity obviously one loss to Yukon, which lets be realistic,
you know, like you're not losing to know, Googoo State University,
you know college, You're losing to you know, a premiere
program that has expectations of going back to the Final
four again that by you very much could have won.
And so the way that they played the exhibition games
against Wisconsin and against North Carolina Carolina game was interesting.
And then you know the success that they had at
you know, against Nebraska at the Delta Center, and so
it just amazing games, right and and and as you said,
you have three games to start a big twelve conference
that you be able to go and say, okay, you
have two games on the road, one of them against
your arch nemesis, and you know, like it's the best
way for you to get started and truly have a
measure of this BYU team now you know, out of
the eighteen games, I think BYU has to go thirteen
and three to have a chance to win conference. I
don't think fourteen and four is going to cut it
this year. And so as I look at that games
at Kansas State right in Manhattan and then going up
the hill to Salt Lake, you have to take care
of business at those times, right. And the fact that
they're going to play at home against Arizona State, that
is just a given that they're going to take care
of things, right. And so when you win conference, when
you are the the you know, not the runner up,
the runner over secondar but when you're a the front
runner to be one of the best teams in the
Big twelve, you have to take care of things. You know.
Recently I was looking at some of my your games.
I was connecting with my former teammates, and it was
rare that we didn't win, you know, twelve thirteen games
in the Mountain West, fourteen games, fifteen games out of
you know, out of a sixteen games schedule, And that's
what you have to do. And so I think BYU
is primed for a great situation. The players are as
healthy as they can be. Everybody's ready to go. Obviously,
you know, not having Nate, not having not having Dawson,
those are big losses. But as you and I have
talked about many times, Ron, it is time for some
of these guys to step up and and I think
these three games to get things started are the perfect
way to do it.
Speaker 2: Definitely are these three games? For sure?
Speaker 3: How big of an impact is Kipa Cata going to
be in conference? Players got off the line with with him.
He's got the highest vertical on the team, per aj
De Bonsa.
Speaker 2: It's over forty. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, here's it. You know, I think we
all got to see, you know how much they missed
Keva and you know in one of those you know,
gimme games that they played over the holidays. Uh, you know,
ken is important. It's Keba going to be a difference
maker by scoring twenty points. No, he's not, but he's
a senior. He understands the game basketball IQ. You know,
he altered shots and then you know, incredible rebounder and
great pick and roller. You don't have to talk about
this a lot. Keba picks and then rolls, but he
does it in a way that a lot of times
he almost seals the defender, opening the lane for players.
Yegor had a bunch of dunks last year like this,
you know as a j Robert rides finding his way
into the paint. And so Keba is massive, right, I mean,
obviously you have the Big four, you have the Big three,
but you know just the way the by is playing,
Keba and Canard are you know absolutely you know, bio
pieces for the seam successful hoping that you know, Tyler
coming off the bench, the bench, KaDee being off the bench,
they can prove you know, even Electate can provide them
a spark, a boost for them to be able to
win you know a lot of these road games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the bench is definitely gonna need to step up
big time. That's gonna be the biggest piece that's going
to be tested. Can aj you know, overcome it even
if the bench isn't able to help alject and you
don't want them to happen every game, But how many
games is he going to be able to do that?
Can he do it against maybe teams not as formidable
as Kansas State, Utah and Arizona State, Because when you
you look at what he just accomplished. He swept the
awards this week with Newcomer and uh, you know, Player
of the Week, and it's all because of that thirty
point triple double. Like can he do that at moments
in conference if the bench doesn't play well.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, let me actually flip the question to
you in a pastake way. Uh, you know, and this
is a rhetorical question. Watch hints b I. If he
doesn't played that way, yeah, right, And so it's not
like by you can't afford for him not to play
that way. He has to deliver. He has to you know,
he has to be really good. And so you know,
I think that the way the b YU team is
playing right now and the way that he's performing, you know,
it's you know, it's mission critical for him to stay healthy.
And look, the dude is superhuman. I mean to the
fact that he got done with the game on the
twenty second hop on the plane, you know, Tuesday morning
he was in Boston, you know, doing a PR appearance
and you know, like this is a different level. This
is this you know, we will never see another A J. D.
Bonds at BUYU have a very hard time. You know,
AJ might go down as you know. I mean, he
has all the potential, you know, to be one of
the all time greats in basketball, and so to be
a part of his journey is fantastic. You know. I
think key to keep Tie from AJ good. It's definitely
by U's defense, which again is anchored by Keba. AJ
is a big part of that. But Keba, you know,
is what allowing this BYU team to be so good.
I mean, if you look at the way that you
know they're playing right now, it's leading to leading to
easy baskets and and also turnovers. You know, if they're
able to keep turnovers to a minimum, you know, like
six seven turnovers, I think they're going to be really good.
I'm doing the hands run, I'm doing the hand and so,
you know, like if you're able to keep turnovers at
a minimum, stemming from you know that, all that that
defense and then going to offense and a j playing
really well, and so you know, Rich is gonna do
his thing. This team's gonna be really successful.
Speaker 3: This team is gonna be successful. I got about two minutes, Lef,
and then I gotta let you go. So I'm gonna
get you out of here on this right here, does
BYU open up Saturday on the road against Kansas State
with the win. Or is it like last year where
they start slow in conference play?
Speaker 4: No, they have to start off. They have to start.
They have to come out of the gate like you know,
like you know, shooting flames out of their rear ends.
It has to happen run otherwise everything else crembles. They
can have a slow start, you know. And I gotta
tell you Ron, you know, like I have a hard
time believing that Kevin Young, with over a week to prepare,
is not gonna have these guys ready, you know what
I mean? And you know, the one thing that I
will say is, you know, whatever halftime speech Kevin Young
is doing, can we get those to happen before the
game starts? You know what I mean? Like, is it
possible for us to have those halftime speeches happened before
the game. And it's going to be crucial, you know
what I mean. And so you know, I'm waiting to
see how I'm waiting to see how that's going to
play out. How BYU is going to be able to
have a really good first halves, come off the gates storming,
you know, is Robbert Raygan the state, consistent, stay out
of foul trouble. It's a huge thing. What about Keba,
we haven't even talked about up Doula anymore, which I
think is going to be a huge addition to b Yu.
And uh, you know, Okay, in his first game, he's
got five rebounds, a couple of blocks. I was impressed
by Dad, and you know, And and AJ has to
be Aj, right, Richie. Richie cannot be the Richie we
saw at Madison Square Garden because if not, AJ has
to be out of the worldly. And uh, you know.
And I'm still waiting for Aj to catch a fast
break and do a niche bay. You know what I mean.
I'm waiting for something crazy to happen.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm waiting for it to happen. Too well, it
could happen against Kansas State. He's had a couple of highlights.
But it's coming. JT, no doubt about it. This team
definitely needs to start fast. I gotta let you go, brother,
but we definitely will catch up next week, starting on
money Days, not as basketball season.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 4: It, brother, always, it forever, my brother. Go Koog's and
Happy New Year to you and the family. Weaver.
Speaker 3: Hey, thank you, Happy New Year to you and the
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Speaker 3: I believe it will close January thirteenth, so people will
have time to go.
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that are going to the port aren't going to play
just as simple. That's how it goes at the end
of the day. That's how it was when I played
rugby and I thought about going elsewhere playing time. Everybody
wants to play it. And it's not that those players
aren't good players, they just aren't going to play here.
And that's just what it is. At the end of
the day, look at the talent coming in and today.
These coaches have to keep their jobs. They have to
the best product on the field. They have to go
win games. So as much as the relationships do matter
those things, if you aren't able to perform, or if
I like to say my new phrase, if you pissed
down your leg in the moment and someone else comes
behind you, it takes your spot.
Speaker 2: That's just the nature of the business.
Speaker 3: Look, I took someone's spot when I played, and then
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Speaker 3: Christmas, you definitely did, and you you drave off of
the California definitely was a California Christmas.
Speaker 2: And then the wave just hit. You know, I think,
what is the start of this week?
Speaker 3: And over the weekend it just you and.
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Speaker 3: Look, hey, we just got to get through three months
and then once we get back to it, we'll be
okay to get ready to go.
Speaker 2: All right, let's just start there. Your thoughts on the matter.
Speaker 3: You know you heard the show yesterday Ben was discussing
it Jay hillon talks, you know, with Michigan. Obviously it
hasn't been reported, but it sounds like even rumblings a
Rod as well. All of this is crazy for me
to start with. So I'll just make it real clear.
I am a J Hill guy. I am an Aaron
Roderick guy.
Speaker 2: You are.
Speaker 6: I am a Justin and A guy. I am a
Genaro Guildford guy. I'm a Colonie Satakia. So when I
say that, that means wherever these guys go, I follow,
you know. And so for me, these are these are
my former teammates. These are guys that that I followed
throughout their entire coaching career. They changed my my whole
perspective on the University of Utah. I wanted him to
win because my, my, my boys were coaching, you know,
and so things say, obviously they wanted to lose one
game a year, you know, but but I wanted them
to have success. And I still want them to all
be successful. And these guys are going to make good
decisions based on what's best for them, just like players
do in the portal themselves. They jump in the portal
because the opportunities to play and get the time. And
the difference is the portal you're limited. You know, you
got four years to play. You're limited, so you might
bounce around more. A coach has a lot more flexibility
in the amount of time that he can coach. So
do I think Jay Hill will go I'm on the
fence about it, you know. I know everyone's, oh, he's
definitely gonna take it. Well, I don't think that necessarily
it's a it's it is definitely a step up, but
is it a better step?
Speaker 5: Right? So when you look at.
Speaker 6: What he has here, and I know yesterday you guys said, well,
Jay's not a BYU guy, Yes he is. And now
and the reason I say that Jay grew up in
Lehigh you know where did he go to junior college?
Exactly what I said yesterday. If you're a Utah guy
growing up, you don't go to Ricks.
Speaker 5: You go to.
Speaker 6: Dixie back in the day, which is now Utah Tech,
or you go to Snow if you're gonna go j
C ut in the state of Utah. You don't go
to Ricks when you're a Utah.
Speaker 2: If you are a Utah person, you ain't at Rick.
Speaker 6: Snow or you're you're at Dixie back in that day.
You know, so Jay grew up in Utah Valley and
loves BYU, loves BYU football, b why you should have
scholarship him straight out out of Ricks? You know it's
and you know he may not have been it you
taught at that point. But anyway, so there's a lot
for Jay to figure out he has here in Utah
and with the BYU fan base. I don't want to
say flexibility, but but I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5: Cougar fan base has his back.
Speaker 2: It's more flexible. I thinking schedule as well, but.
Speaker 5: They have back.
Speaker 6: Right, so things goes wrong a little bit. We trust
that Jay's gonna pull it around and figure it out.
Give him another You know, it's not like, well, you
guys had a five and seven year, you're out forever.
Speaker 5: You know what. You go to Michigan and have a
five and seven year, you're done.
Speaker 6: You know, it's not it's not or your defense isn't
highly ranked and you're losing games because of your defense.
The people are calling for your head because they don't
love and respect you yet you haven't earned their love
and respect.
Speaker 5: You have here, you know.
Speaker 6: So, so there's a lot to play into that is
money The biggest factor. I don't think it is when
you're already in the two million dollar range year. I
don't think that making two point eight versus two million,
but having the life that you want, where you want
to live.
Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of factors that are going
to it.
Speaker 6: But overall, if you know, the administration made their decision
that Kolonie Sataki is our man, right, so had Colon
had they not done that, then Jay Hill would be
our head coach right now, right, So in making that decision,
now Jay's got some am I pursuing more head coaching?
Speaker 5: Am I happy?
Speaker 3: Where?
Speaker 6: I'm at am, I happy and healthy where I'm at,
you know, so there's a lot for him to figure out.
Speaker 3: I'll ask you an honest question on that. And look, these
guys are competitive. They want to win at the highest level.
They all want to be the best. Do you feel
Kilani pushing it hard and getting it and he deserves it?
Does not argue that? Do you feel that maybe Jac's
and says, you know, and okay, well that's what it is.
Then I'm going to go elsewhere. Do you think that
the thought could come cross to mind?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 2: I was thinking that in competive nature of cold.
Speaker 6: It just depends if that's what he If his ultimate
final goal is I want to be a head coach
of a nationally ranked football team, then yeah, then I
would say yes.
Speaker 5: If if he's realizing at this.
Speaker 6: Point that that's not his ultimate goal and his ultimate
goal is to win a national championship, and maybe he
has that opportunity here better than moving in and kind
of throwing it in the ring and let's see what
happens type of deal. You know, we'll see. You know,
it's there's a lot to figure out. But then you
and you look at a rod you know that the
you know, the fan base is probably more behind j Hill,
I think when you look at them online.
Speaker 5: But I think the fan base is really behind a Rod.
Speaker 6: It's just the haters are more vocal and and the
best part about the haters is reading some comments of
some of these guys and they was like.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, but on third down and fifteen and you
call them.
Speaker 2: Come on?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 6: So anyway, so I think I think a Rod has
a has a lot to negotiate as well.
Speaker 5: It is important we keep these guys. I think it's important.
Speaker 6: I mean, you heard you listen to to uh bear
talk after the game, and and what is he given
the credit to the right.
Speaker 2: Before Matt Mitchell left, he was giving credit to Mama.
Speaker 6: So there, there's there's Uh I'm excited for the future
and where things are going. But you know, I personally,
I have favorites of of guys that I like, and
I'm gonna follow them wherever they go. And I will
be if Jay goes to Michigan, I will be now
following Michigan football. You know, I'm a Kilan Marion guy, right,
That's who I started following Miami football. Right, I'm I'm
I'm a Jake Redsoff guy. I enjoy watching Jake play.
So I started following too Lane.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: Now I don't follow too Lane anymore because he's done right, but.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but I follow.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: The funny thing is is I've been asked, you know,
years ago, who's your NFL team? I'm like, many even
have one, you know, and people wait a minute, and
Patrick Mahomes and you don't I have? I have.
Speaker 5: I like to watch players.
Speaker 6: I like to watch good football, and I like to
watch certain players.
Speaker 5: I follow players, you know. So that's kind of how
I am.
Speaker 6: And and so i'm as I follow these guys and
and I want them to all be successful, and I
want them to have great careers, and and you know,
whatever decision they make, it's the right decision for them,
you know, And let's.
Speaker 5: Support and move move forward.
Speaker 6: And uh see what We've got a lot of a
lot of a lot of good opportunity moving forward here.
Regardless of what happens, we can bring in good guys
if we need to, if we're able to keep them,
then the man, Brian Santiaguani the race, you know.
Speaker 5: It, all right, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: Look, if he's able to do and look, and you
bring up a good topic that we that is actually
needed for debate, and you know, on the Cougar Basketball
Premium shelf talk to those of by you and I said, hey,
I would like to talk to Brian about, you know,
the basketball team of more Boa Athletics as a whole
at some point. And now that you bring up it
gives me an idea. If Brian's able to retain j
Hill and you keep a Rod, and you kept Kilani
and he kept Kevin Young all in a calendar year,
that deserves a race. But no, no, you keep all
of your coaches. Come on, now, when does that ever happen?
And all of them are winning exactly, you know, so
putting in at the next level.
Speaker 6: So fun to watch is who's who's all coming back?
And transfer portal windows opening? You know, it doesn't It
doesn't me out as a b Yu fan as it
would a lot of other schools.
Speaker 3: You see, it was Iowa who's lost as they have
one regard something like that.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: So what b Yu and Kilani and his staff and
the administration are able to do is retain the guys
that they originally signed. Do you have guys coming through
so you see. But but my whole point of that
transfer portal we've talked before is is the guys that
jump once, jump twice, jump three times. You know that
what's his name, Dali from from your tongue. Yeah, yeah,
he's in the portal.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's where he's going.
Speaker 6: But once you jump once, it becomes easy to jump again. Absolutely,
we're keeping guys that have the ability to transfer into
maybe a bigger school or a bigger league, and they're
staying at BYU. So that tells you something about the
culture that's there, because if it was just about chasing
dollars and money, they would all be gone. And I
think that that's happening at a lot of other schools.
I mean, was l s u's entire old line or
five of their old linemen just entered the portal and
Lane Kiffin's coming in.
Speaker 3: I mean they, you know, so having conversations.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 3: And even the Michigan quarterback went into the portal. Bryce
Underwood is going to be staying. But yeah, the guy
by the back, and he's good, he's good quarterback.
Speaker 2: He said, all right, I'm out.
Speaker 3: And it's just it's hard to keep kids like at
the North Texas kid that played off.
Speaker 5: It's hard to what do we have two guys that
have said leaving for sure.
Speaker 2: And Jake Griffin I think I think Gryffin's in the portal.
Speaker 3: I might have the name. I might have the name wrong.
It's an offensive lineman. I need to get the name
for the so I know, but it's an alignment that
wasn't that was looking for more time. He's in the portal.
The McKenzie twins are in the portal. Did they both
go Yeah. Marcus announced that he plans in ten and
you you'd have to think with Marcus wants to play
at corner.
Speaker 2: Hasn't gotten opportunity.
Speaker 3: He has been on special teams, but has also been
dinged up, been dealing I think with the lower you know,
lower leg injury what he's been dealing with. But look,
that's maybe a pack of jill. You want to play
with your brother. Marcus is playing more than Dom. Who knows,
but let's keep it honest. They weren't going to play
at their position. That's sort of lead and there are
younger players coming in. AKA the pool of twins that
are going to play over you is just that simple, right,
whether Jay stays or he goes, those guys are going
to come in and play over you. So they're leaving.
And then the last one we can get your thoughts
on offensive player. McKay Hill's dead. Everybody, I think anticipated
that that he would go. And if you don't, you
live under a rock. But I saw this coming the
minute he lost the starting job. If barrols an un
said he will be on the board at the end
of the season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And and go get some playing Go, go find
a school that you can walk into and go play football.
Speaker 5: And and Broncos I chase playing time.
Speaker 6: But back then it was a lot harder to chase
playing time because you you had so many restrictions on
where you could If you were going from BYU to
another D one, you had to sit out a year,
you know. So if you were going, the only way
you could do it was go down, you know, to
Division III and AI A or whatever in order to
play that next year. So so your your options were
limited a little bit more and what you could and
couldn't do. So today with what they have, I mean,
go get playing time. You only get four years to
play football, you know, so go play. If you're gonna
unless your dream was to be on this team and
your dream and you're there now and you're okay with
where you're at, then stay, you know. But if your
dream is to play ball, go play ball. Go find
a school that's going to give you the opportunity to
go in and start and play. Because they're all great athletes,
so they wouldn't even be on the team. So everybody
on the team can play football, it's just where they
have their opportunity to do it. And he is going
to find a spot, you know, and and and he'll
probably have a great season. And what was what was
the safety that went to Montana? Can't think of his name?
Speaker 3: Had a great year, a great He wouldn't have played,
he wouldn't have played here, he wouldn't have played.
Speaker 5: And not the same because he's a he's a great athlete.
Speaker 3: And when he started getting hurt and the guy started
performing playing better, so you won with those guys's.
Speaker 5: And then and then they're in. But so what did
he do with Montana?
Speaker 6: Had a great year, you know, So he's gonna have
his memories are going to be a great senior year
playing football, not standing watching other.
Speaker 3: Got sacks, a guy interceptions. I had fun. Now I
sat on the cell line and I and I that's
the best way to go.
Speaker 5: Get your playing time. I'm all for it.
Speaker 6: And B why his quarterback room is going to be
fine where I think we end up picking up somebody
potentially in the portal thatchuring guy.
Speaker 2: Need a thirty or fourth year guy coming that's willing
to do that.
Speaker 5: Maybe that last, I mean, we'll we'll see.
Speaker 6: It's it's a hard one because you know, you have
a bona fide starter in there. You're you're not coming
in necessary to compete, you know.
Speaker 2: So that's he's going to be the guy hard.
Speaker 6: Pill to swallow, like I'm gonna transfer to b y
you and compete to be in the second straight. So
that that's that's not an easy one to to to
get the best guy in for.
Speaker 2: And the quarterback is young too, it's not like he's
older in the chance.
Speaker 5: Goes.
Speaker 3: It's not like you're like, oh, it's like oh maybe,
it's like it's like you're not going to play for
at all.
Speaker 5: And then you got Emerson coming back from his missing.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like you're not going to play politicially
for what six years?
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, you're not.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna You're not gonna play for six years
because unless something happens with Bear and then and we'll
save this discussion for when rider duskin backer. That's going
to be a whole fiasca. It's you know, does ride
a red shirt? Always not got a red shirt? Though
he wants to play, you're not gonna play. I'll beat
it you that's been ballowing his butt off. Look, that's
gonna you're not trying to start the conversation. But I
bring it up with if you're a guy coming in
you know you're not touching the field, you're gonna run
maybe scout.
Speaker 2: If you don't run, scout, but you're.
Speaker 6: The backup guy in the back run scout, you'll definitely
be on you about it.
Speaker 3: You might take what how many reps do you take
as a as a backup quarterback in practice?
Speaker 2: Because the third string runs.
Speaker 6: Well second and third still second takes a lot of reps. Yeah,
because if your if your first string goes down, your
second's gotta be down in so he's getting plenty of reps.
Speaker 2: Plenty of reps can.
Speaker 6: But the key with that is that if if you're
able to keep a rod and throughout throughout the time
that that bears here. And then with Ryder Lions, I mean,
if you imagine having a full year of preparation with
a rider Lions, learning from Bear, and then going into
his freshman year, you know.
Speaker 5: Whether he I don't.
Speaker 6: If Ryder is all that he is is spoken to be,
he's gonna come out and he's not gonna be a
four year guy, just like I don't think There's.
Speaker 3: Also not gonna I don't think Ryder's gonna red shirt
when he comes in.
Speaker 6: Well it doesn't Redcherd is great if you're gonna play
four more years, you know. But but if he is
what he's practive to be, and you know he won't
be fore he.
Speaker 3: Only needs to show that for two years. And look,
I also think looking, I mean, this is in the
nicest way, and I'm not trying to, you know, be negative,
but they are getting hurt this year. If that becomes
a problem as you get older in the body and
those things, and you got the younger guy that has
more eligibility. Not say they would do this to Bear,
butle we've seen this. If you have it where it's
that close and this guy is stinged up or maybe
he's thinking about going to the next level. You don't
have that young guy do that because he's gonna come
in day one and you know, throw the football. So yeah,
there's like it's like, I go back to the geir
Ablehind and Jake thing. We all thought, including myself GB three.
I still think that GB three would have tore it up.
I still think that, but they went with the dude
that had more eligibility. And I bring it up of
I think injuries play a factor in that happened to
Michael Harper, like we talked about, I.
Speaker 6: Think that was the final I think that was the
final straw with Jake and and Gary was the more.
Speaker 5: He had had they both had one year.
Speaker 3: I think Gary, oh, Gary would have won one hundred
percent you have if that's both there last year, Number
three ones the job you got two years okay, And
I mean up until everything that occurred in the offseason,
bwe was gonna be a they were supposed to be
number nine, Like that's what it would have been.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Look Cougarnation, I tell you, I thought it was great
for both schools. Jake got to the CFP BA did phenomenal,
And I just want your.
Speaker 2: Thoughts on that.
Speaker 3: The last freshman quarterback to throw for three thousand yards
was a man that is in the playoffs right now
in a place for the Jacksonville Jaguars that won a
national championship. Now saying Bart could do that, that'd be
great for BYU, but Trevor Lawrence was a damn good
quarterback in my opinion.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh absolutely, So now we've got we've got a
right future. It'll be fun to see what we are
able to do in the portal. I personally think we
we we should pull a running back or two and
a wide receiver or two. I think our wide receiver
room is very, very good, but we could use one
or two guys to come in and just elevate that room.
Speaker 5: And that could also be you know, some of the
freshmen coming in.
Speaker 6: But you know, there there aren't a lot of freshmen
that contribute as well as like a Bear Bryant or
or not Bear Brightens as that Bear bachbyer did you
know this year? So we may have something. We have
some really good athletes coming in, so we'll see. But
I think it's good. You know, we accomplished more this year,
in my opinion, with a little bit less talent than
we had last year.
Speaker 3: You got your twelfth one with your best toy and
I know what you mean, raw talent. You got your
twelfth win. What's your best player having off season surgery? Yeah,
you got your twelve years, your best line, your best linebacker,
which who you They held out because they didn't want
anything to happen. That's what you did that. So can
you imagine you get a healthy Isaiah Glasga back, you
feel the other spot at linebacker, You get Shaye Bryant
strong back like he's coming back. You get that, which
is pivotal. I think for the defensive line, you justin
Kirkland will be healthy.
Speaker 5: Look, I think we talked.
Speaker 6: Before about is that your decisions before to leave college
early to go to the NFL was to get paid.
Period that there was nothing other than now you can
get paid in college, likely the same amount that you're
gonna make as a rookie. You can take on an
insurance policy so if you get injured, you.
Speaker 5: Still get paid, period.
Speaker 6: You know, So there's and if you're already getting paid
in college that much, you can afford that policy, right,
and so you do it. And so there's you know,
I imagine sitting in the locker room with everybody and going, guys,
what do.
Speaker 5: You need to come back? Like as a player to player,
like what do you need?
Speaker 6: Because I'm gonna go to Klonie and I'm gonna go
and you look, we want all these guys back.
Speaker 5: How do we keep them Let's keep everybody together, and.
Speaker 2: How do we keep everybody happy with Mark?
Speaker 6: Once a ton of Osca comes said I'm coming back,
and LJ when he announced what he's doing if he
if he ends up coming back, it's like all that
does it?
Speaker 5: I think it's a domino.
Speaker 6: Everybody who was going to like glasses, I'm coming back
too with this group, you know, and and.
Speaker 5: Everyone had that had a breakout. You're is gonna get paid,
you know.
Speaker 6: So there's and you're the top dog, like you when
you go the NFL. You're now in this group of
apex predators rights everywhere, and you are not. You have
to prove that you are an apex. With all these
guys right now here at b YU, you're all apex.
You know, you are the top of the you are.
Enjoy your time in college, enjoy the football experience that
you have.
Speaker 5: Enjoy it. Enjoy it.
Speaker 6: Let's keep going, you know, and then and then go
get your go go feed the NFL. You know, go
go make your mark there. But enjoy because you can't
come back, well unless you're in the NBA. I guess
you can come back now, but you know in the NFL,
they my gosh. But anyways, it's you know, I feel
like you enjoy it now, get it. Enjoy the time
with your boys where life doesn't matter as much. There's
not a lot of worry. And our worries back in
college were financial. You know, they had those worries. Imagine
being able to be a football player in a D
one school with all your boys hanging.
Speaker 3: Out, pay your rent, you can buy your food, playing.
Speaker 5: N CLA football on your Xbox all day.
Speaker 3: Why you're getting paid, like Lil Wayne said, look me
in the face.
Speaker 6: Every day, right, because we can afford it. Like you know,
these guys have it really really good, and and well
that would be awesome to be in those positions where
you could come back and be that APEX top dog
and and really you know, set the mindset together, bring
everybody back, figure out what we need. And there's no
reason why we kept be in the playoffs next year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a plan order, Dame, you do what
you did this year, and look, I look at the
schedule next year. I'm being honest, I'm not trying to
have Hyperbolely Farewell just seem could go on defeate it
next year very well, with or without.
Speaker 6: You know, I think Jay hill en and in that
U game though, I don't know, but we've got the schedule.
You bring people back.
Speaker 3: A lot of coaches and players have left, and all
the best part about this a lot of those games
at home. You get Iowa State at the crib, you
get Arizona and Arizona State at the crib to twelve
in order, Dame, those are all going to be night games.
It's tough for teams to play at night in Laville.
I don't care what anyone says. With Kalani well what
they do. And look, even if they lose Ja Hill
or not, you think about the defense line. You got
Keanu Justin kirk and will hopefully be healthy. You get
JT back for his last year. He gets one more.
I think a Nissi Purcell said one more to go.
So you get all of those guys back you had
a few more pieces. Noosy's coming to side. Hunter Clegg
had a good season. You got these young bucks coming.
Speaker 5: Up, you got you got only dB. You lose on
the corner and you lose bomb.
Speaker 2: Louse bombys, you're gonna have to figure to replace that.
Speaker 5: But but you bet he was road.
Speaker 6: He was kind of detained the goal line inside the
twenty guy, you're gonna have to.
Speaker 2: Figure out the trades. It's kind of let you down.
The season is.
Speaker 5: Gonna be bigger and stronger. Absolutely already put on a
you know, straight put on.
Speaker 2: Fifteen twenty pounds, gonna put on another.
Speaker 5: He's gonna be two hundred and fifteen pound, six foot
three corner.
Speaker 2: That gonna be honest.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's this player, but it's gonna give
you sauce Gardner like vibes, long bill like that cosausa
six to three, built like that bill like two ten,
two fifteen as well.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, I played against a couple of guys that
are that big, you know, and as a receiver going
against the guy who's six three and two ten, it
is very very It's it's intimidating off the ball when
you're lined up and you're barely six footint eighty, you know,
and you're going against the guy that that's got thirty
pounds on you and it's just as fast and three inches.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's it'll be.
Speaker 3: It's also Brandon Browner the corner for what is it?
I think it's the that was the Seattle Seahawks. This
dude six four twenty one like as a as a corner,
like I was due a linebacker. Bro stop playing with
playing safety, but he would. But that's what he was
a big body in that Seattle defense. And because of
the pieces Complemary football, he locked dudes up, Like, but
we keep our safeties. Yeah, you know, well if we
keep it, we have right now, and if you lose
j Hill, you might lose volatile, you know. To be honest,
maybe maybe, okay, maybe, I don't know. I don't know
why that's become the biggest rumor I think because I
think the reason why is that one is I interviewed
him during the season. He says, Jay Hill wanted me.
That's the reason I came to be why you I
love j Hill? The relationship there, He's talked about it
on other in his other networks that he has in
I l deals with so because I think he's been
so vocal and Jay's been all I love foletow he's
a great player for us.
Speaker 5: Is that coin?
Speaker 2: It was a point, that's what he said.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a coin.
Speaker 6: Foot So the love is only as much as heads
or tails goods. We'll leave it at that. But no,
I love I love fall T and I want them
all back. Raider got he'll be Yeah, he'll be a
true junior. Tommy will be a red shirt, uh freshman,
So you got you gotta talk about a pretty solid Yeah.
I mean you're only starters that you're losing on defense
then Jack? Yeah, I mean who else? Yeah, so if.
Speaker 5: Everyone wants to come back now, and then you go
to the offense, who are you? Who are you starting?
Speaker 3: Because he's out eligibility because he's out of eligibility, Lucid
because he's out of eligibility.
Speaker 5: Right, so said and then and then well you lose,
you lose Chase.
Speaker 2: Out of eligibility Carson R.
Speaker 3: So, Yeah, the guys that you're losing like you're to
your point or because they're out of eligibility, it's not
because it's not because they're just gonna leave one hundred
percent because it sounds like, you know, I think you
and I are both on the same page. You're gonna
get him back. I g I think is in that
boat of yeah, got to come back after having, you know,
being dinged up. So you're not losing guys because they're like,
all right, I'm out. They can't come back because they
can't play anymore if they, if Carson had another season,
he would take.
Speaker 6: It'll be interesting to see if the Politicans come in
the spring. I haven't heard I talked to.
Speaker 3: I think Devon Echo, who we talked to who we
had on the show, and Legend Glaskar. I think they
might already be on campus because I think they're coming
in because you can you can get it right, you
can comeing right. Devon told us on the show him
and Legend Glasker both were planning to come in. So
that's what Oh he is, damn good. I've said that twice.
This is you And that's why I agree with the
point the he one or two guys, and that's why
the the's wide receivers are leasing leaving because they look
at Terrence Sarah and he's gonna get time. They look
at legend Lasker. He's gonna come in and compete right away.
They look at the Polatino. He's gonna come in and play.
Speaker 5: They got three guys. He's gonna start competing more.
Speaker 2: But you think of who the ass in the room.
Speaker 3: He's gonna get time now because of that first, she's
gonna get Reggie, so they might go get one guy.
Speaker 4: See.
Speaker 5: So the best part about that room I have to
talk with uh with.
Speaker 6: I can't even think of his name, Tiger barckbre So
after after Reggie got laid out on it, they're just
blind sided, laid out and and you see him running
off the sidelights. All you see is is Tiger and
the smile and smirk him laughing about him getting laid out.
Speaker 5: I have to ask you about it, but yeah, I
mean that it was great.
Speaker 2: Hey look here he went from you know, snow to
Weber to b Yu. He's a good player. You have
to have. You have to have a big twelve moment
when you get laid out. How he got dropped. Guys
dropped it.
Speaker 3: But it's okay looking And the reason why I brought
up his name is you started to see number seven
get more time and I think you're going to see
him a lot next year with Chase, and that's why
I think they get one another year.
Speaker 2: Does have another year that his last year.
Speaker 5: Next year, I think he'll be play a bigger role.
Speaker 2: He will.
Speaker 3: And I say, this room is like, that's why guys
are leaving because you're like, Okay, I have to look
if you're dumb, if you're the Mason you're looking at,
I gotta beat out legend.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not probably gonna beat them out. I got
to be out of terrence.
Speaker 3: But they're they're already not beating out the guys that
are back up. And that's that's why. If you're not
beating out those guys, and that's why I say, you
already have dropped. So now you're looking at it. Am
I going to be out these dudes coming in?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 2: So you're like, I'm gone.
Speaker 6: So the transfers would why you have that have come
out our guys, as we said, looking for plank, looking
for playing, because they're not gonna they're not going to
get it where they're at now. Absolutely, but a lot
of the schools that the guys that are transferring our
starters and are players and they're they're leaving where they're starting.
That's a big difference what you have and that's that's culture.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what I love about this, And I
know we got to get the break here when you
get the break, I know we got it in the show.
But what I love about this is this is great
for Bronco. Look, Bronco I think is gonna take the
McKenzie Twins. I think they'll stay in the state. I
think he'll tell you know, La Mason Waller I think
is a guy that can play at Utah at the
next level. Mean, he's a four star guy. I think
that guy can play there. But this is great I
think for Bronco. There are guys like look, Jack Iicorn
went up to there. You know you saw moles Hall
who played great, but you could you could have used
Miles said, I'm tired of that mousing up there. Great,
you saw Landon Rico. Look all these guys, this is
a great place.
Speaker 2: Like that's what say. McHale's at back Etho State, but
that'd be a great place for you.
Speaker 3: So this is if guys going into the protal, this
is great because Bronco's gonna take you you're gonna play
in Mountain West. You're gonna play still tough competition like
the Boise States to you.
Speaker 2: And l v's.
Speaker 3: Play Texas, Like Bronco has rapport. So this is great,
This is great. I don't think this is bad of
what's end all being.
Speaker 6: I think I got some guys that mattyra Brown is
the linebacker there. I grew up with his dad. See,
guy's a baller. See, so this is this is great.
Speaker 3: Still for players who are going to go into the
port aren't gonna get time. I still feel now that
Broncos back in the state, it's a great place for
them to be at a place.
Speaker 2: So like you said, ye have plany time. But we'll see.
Speaker 3: But look, I said this yesterday on air, are reiterated
right now. At quarterback, wide receiver. You need to start
acting like the Georgia's the Alabamas need to have talent
and depth from one all the way through five, six, seven,
whatever it is. This is no more of well, this
guy is someone that tried out for the team and
picked up. Yeah, you can have those stories here in there,
but that's over with. You need guys one through sing
we need we need the ballers in high school that
are coming in.
Speaker 5: And that's the thing. We get the right guys out
of high school. They're staying, they're staying, saying that, look
at him, look at it.
Speaker 2: It was the wide receiver first.
Speaker 5: But but did he he could have left, Oh.
Speaker 3: He could set him out. Could have been like Zion
Allen who he roomed with. He said, by but Jacob
Robinson said to stay too, and look what happened.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So anyway, I mean, we've got a lot of good
stuff going on and excited about it. And let's get
through the Jay Hill negotiations to a Ron negotiations. Let's
make sure we don't forget about and and pay. Our
recruiting coordinator Justin Anderson, like, let's go. Let's let's get
the guys that need need to be paid paid and
let's keep them and let's go win.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: And I think they definitely definitely will win.
Speaker 3: But before we go, before we end the show, tell
us how people can get in touch with you with Utah,
I'll protect it from how can they win over there?
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, give us a call eight oh one, eight
hundred ninety seven sixty seven. I'd love to help you out.
Speaker 6: Window ten ceramic coatings, pay protection, film color, pay protection film.
Speaker 5: Variety of a little bit of everything. Bring your boat
in if you want some boat protection. We got that
as well.
Speaker 6: So anyways, but yeah, we're we're uh it's winter and
and uh it's it tends to be a little slower time,
but not not at UPF.
Speaker 5: And we're slammed. So get it.
Speaker 6: Come in and and and you know, I'll tell you
what if you tell me and I don't get enough.
I need more people saying they heard us on the
bank credits show. I'll continue the fifteen percent off and
the no tax. Oh so it's three quarter percent of
all our service. Just got to mention it, like, come
in and say, I'm happy to give you that discount.
Speaker 2: Hey, look you heard the man from himself. He said
he's willing if people keep coming because they're busy at UPF.
Speaker 3: If you keep doing it more tax don't tell me
you don't like, you don't want to, you don't want
to have your taxes.
Speaker 2: I always say, tax, let me let me pay share,
pay your taxes. Look do I.
Speaker 3: What you go?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 3: Look I always tell you guys, you want the eleven
percent for paying your tie. Then this is the way
to get it a you taught protective bills. We thank
Jeri first time guys. We gotta close it out. I
gotta get off the airways. We've had a great show
this far. Shout out to everybody that joined us. We
discussed McKay Hillstead in the transfer portal b well you
backup quarterback talk. We have bradon Day, the CEO of
Odion Menzor, Sean Walker, Kissel dot Com, Blaine Anderson, our
financial tax barrow with advisor here at ESPN, the fan
Jay t for three and then of course Jared Bleedzel
just joined us. And then of course Brett always bringing
the hammer, was with me as well. We had a
star study of cast for this Tuesday, December thirty edition.
Guys that will do it from us here. Will be
back tomorrow a New Year's Eve edition for a December
thirty first.
Speaker 2: It will be my birthday.
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over the greatest moments, all of that, more that discussion tomorrow. Guys,
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