Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and Jim and welcome back to the Penguin
Review Series. I don't know what I'm calling what we're
calling it, but episode two for the Penguin. I am
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Speaker 2: By I am the Ring Bearer, Ker Colmpatzer, the.
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at some point. Taylor, what do you feel about the
episode Penguin Episode two Inside Man.
Speaker 3: You know, it's still picking up steam and just it
really has this weird, like kind of captivating aesthetic to it.
I love that it's carried over from that first episode,
so everything that was going on here really was just
pulling me in. I really really enjoyed that they're still
just sprinkling little bits of humor in here. And this
isn't a spoiler, but like Oz is trying to cross
the street and this car pulls up and honks and
he's like, go, you go, and the car just stays
there for a second. Oz is like what, And then
the car goes and he walks across and he's like
something like what the fucking idiot. It's just those those
little quality of life kind of moments that they're just
sprinkled in throughout the show so far that I really like.
It's not progressing the narrative in any way. It just
kind of adds to the atmosphere of the show. And
I like that, and I like how it makes it
feel very grounded. There are certain things that are revealed
in this episode that are really intense and really crazy,
and there's just these certain little reminders that remind you
of where these characters are currently in their journey and
just how ill this world is and how things can
really really change, and how it does a good job
at reaffirming to you that This isn't like an MCU
story where every you know our characters is gonna come
out okay and everything like that. And of course we
know Penguin's gonna come out okay at the end of
this because he's Penguin, but he's the characters that he's
affiliated with. Though, that's where it feels like we're just
you're unsure because things can really really change around. But
I love how intelligent he is in this show and
just how he's changing the plans and just kind of
coming up with these ideas and always has something in
his jacket pocket that he can just pull out and
and just kind of get out of a sticky situation.
Because I feel like every episode we're gonna see him
in a situation where like, oh, like, oh my god, Like,
is he gonna get capped? But no, I truly believe
he's gonna come out and will be in The Batman
Part two. But this is a great episode.
Speaker 2: I loved it fully, I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just rip off the title The Batman fully,
I do.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, yeah, I am still loving this show.
I think it's fantastic. I felt like this one didn't
have as much of a sparkle maybe the first episode had,
but it was also the first episodes, so it was
like the first you know, a lot of anticipation build up.
But I still think this is on par with last
week's episode quality wise. And yeah, I liked how you're
just shouting out their Taylor, like the like the realistic
little little moments that that happened. I feel like those
those sequences, whether it's you know, last week we're talking
about the pickles and just like his little speech about pickles,
or if you think of like what is it like
reservoir dogs for example, Just like certain like dialogue that
they have like in especially in like a Tarantito film,
where they'll just go off about like something super random
and as you said to like, it doesn't progress this
like the plot or the story or anything, but it's
just I don't know, it makes the overall what's happening
just a lot more realistic because it is just a conversation,
like a nothing conversation that a lot of people would
have in their day to day. And in this episode,
I love when he was talking about like the Cilantro.
I'm I'm one I hate Cilantro, so like he's like
I I asked for no cilantro and then you get this,
I might as well just put bar soap in my mouth.
That's exactly how I feel, like, Like I I'm usually
not picky. You know. If I order something no pickles
and then I get it, it's like, okay, whatever, I
can pick it up. But with cilantro, that's one where
it's like, no, I cannot touch that. It's such a
powerful flavor. But you know, I so this is kind
of what he's talking about in the episode, and it's like, man,
I totally agree with that, and I don't know, it
just makes the performance that much more authentic. And Colin
Ferrell is just he's just continuing to be fantastic. This episode. Well,
I guess it's only second episode, but but up until now,
in this episode, I was like, oh man, maybe Oz
isn't safe, like like maybe he won't make it out
of this, uh this this season here. And I feel
like I'm happy that I am anting those thoughts because
it makes it makes me nervous now fall, Like even
though he isn't like a good guy, I'm still like,
oh man, like like how is he gonna? I don't know,
Just there's more stakes to the overall situation. What's happening then, Yeah,
I'm continuing to love Oh my gosh, Christine Christine Million. Yeah.
Sofia Falcone she's she's really I would say she was
my standout in this episode specifically, it seemed like it
was a little bit more focused on on her more
so than the last. But no, I'm really liking just
what's going on with her and her own psyche, which
is pretty twist and messed up. But uh, yeah, I'm
really loving this, like the especially, I don't know, there's
something special about these Sunday Night reviews, whether it's House
the Dragon or or this just you know, boot up Crave,
you get that HBO little little Yeah exactly, It's like, man,
I'm ready for this, and I think it just I
don't know, it's it's like Sunday Night Football. It's Sunday
Sunday Night TV, and it's just the qualit is just
Chef's kiss. I'm really loving the show.
Speaker 1: Maybe they put Halo on Sunday, you guys would have
been uh, you know, like maybe.
Speaker 2: It would have boosted my overall thoughts zero point five
or something. Who knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I sound exactly like these gentlemen. Another great episode.
I think they're laying the groundwork, especially at the end
of this episode. I feel like maybe it'd be a
good thing for Oz, but I feel like they put
him in an even more difficult position. I'm very excited
because it's just it's that class Like the episode's called
inside Man, and I think that this is episode two
it has, I guess not to the same extent, but
what I love is uncut gems when a character's doing
something and you got so little time, or there's so
many people working against you, and you gotta do this,
this and this, and even this episode, I thought for
sure all this is for sure gonna happen, and then
it didn't. And I love that. And it just feels like,
already in episode two, the walls aren't closing in, but
it's like he can only kind of walk this tight
rope for so long. So I can't even imagine when
we're gonna get to the penultimate episode and finale like
where I just feel like it is gonna be pressure
to the emp degree and I can't always see Calin
Farrell act that out. I think we got a lot
of you know, we got to I guess I'll say
it for Spoils. There's a lot of characters in particular
that we only saw maybe a scene of last week.
I feel like we're learning more of and two that
I'm fascinated by because I don't I feel like one
is just a foreshadowing what could happen in the future,
and one we talked about a bit on the Batman,
but I just don't know if it is a set
for the sequel or not. And it feels a little
like they could go that round. And that's what's fun
about the show. Even they introduced the other character with Sophia,
and that was really cool and I always see people
theorizing who that is, but no Sophia, she continues, they
I think she had the best scenes in this episode.
I think last week was a split of this, just
the ones I was most intrigued by, especially with this
dynamic of in most minor sports, she's being reintroduced into
the family, but she's still known as a serial killer, right,
it doesn't even matter. It shows that even though they
are a crime family. We talked about this last week,
where like, oh, the Riddler was a step above that.
Maybe she's not to the Riddler's level, but she's like
a step above the crime family feel as far as like,
oh this isn't okay, like you're kind of weird and everything.
I think they gave her some really good tense scenes
and we got to learn a lot about Gotham in
this just on the radio or new slippings or people
talking about what's going on. So that's fascinating. And yeah,
I'm every week, I'm just interested in Cek, where are
they gonna go, what's gonna be this week's problem, And
especially now with episode two's ending, I'm very curious in
the next couple of weeks how Oz uses this new
thing he's obtained to kind of maneuver around, which it
could also I can't say is gonna be his downfall
because I don't think he's gonna lose, but like, I
think he's gonna lose some things, and I think the
things he does lose is unfortunately the thing he's agreed
to or with in the the ending of this episode,
which we'll get into, spoils. I just feel like that's
kind of the you know, Icarus flying too close the sun,
the you know, every example you want to baking your
cake and eat it too. It's like, yeah, at the moment,
this might seem like a good idea, but man, this
is gonna really blow up. And I feel like they
set the stage with two things an episode. So I
feel like this episode was great on its own, but
last week felt like just a nice almost a little
short film that could have been like played before a
warm Brothers be like, Oh the Daylight the Penguin and
he's trying to frame get power and then he gets
away with it, and then you know he's back on
his own with Vic and they're doing this stuff right
where this literally, I think was like, Okay, here's the path,
here we're going, here's where we're going, and let's see
what's gonna happen. And I think I got an idea,
but not exactly. And that's what I like about the
show so far. And yeah, acting is always superb, and yeah,
I'm like Kirkan said, it's great to have every weekend.
It's gonna suck a lot when we don't have this
and the Batman doesn't come out in twenty twenty five
out twenty twenty six, have it'd been such a nice
crescendo of all this ends. But oh, we're only, you know,
less than a year away. But now it's like, ah,
we're like pretty much too well, we are two years away,
which is just fucking just oh, dagger to the heart.
But we're gonna talk about so we're gonna get into
spoilers and then we'll be right back and we're back.
So I wanted to start with Oz's mother. So in
this episode, I can't remember last week, did they specifically
say she had dementia or they just say she was
on Well, they didn't say that, right, They didn't say
it though, yeah, okay, And even then I feel like
they caught her in a good day where she's okay,
she needs some care taking care of. He wants to
take care of her. But we learned this episode she
was like out and about in her house, didn't have
her jacket on. It's cold there, it's getting colder. They've
talked about. And then there's I guess he's just a neighbor, right,
penguin was paying I think the landlord. Oh he's landlord. Okay,
think I missed that part. So he's landlord and the
landlord it says, oh, you should get her some help
and everything, and then you know, he just gives her money.
I don't pay her for your you know, mac hoole
advice or whatever he says, and then you know whatever,
that's all good dandy. I think she is somebody that
she's not making it. I don't see the penguin going
in to the batman too with his matter live. And
I think she is somebody that's gonna getting killed.
Speaker 3: Man, she getting killed, especially because she told she He
told Sophia too that like, oh, my brother died a
few years back, and I think that's very highlighted detail.
Speaker 2: Right as soon as he said that, I was like,
it's over for you. It's over for you mother. And
I also also.
Speaker 1: About Falcon last week, remember that he killed them, so
that she has that information as well. And she's not
right in the mind, so that could just slip maybe easily.
You know.
Speaker 2: The way that Sophia played the scene, it for a second,
it almost made me think that she like knew that
his mom was like still alive or something, just because
she like froze for a second, like really like looked
at him. And then it's like, oh, is this like
the start of like, Okay, I just caught you in
a lie. But now now that I think about it,
like in retrospective, I don't think that is the case,
but she like she's gonna find out eventually, and yeah,
it's not gonna end well for the mom.
Speaker 1: And I don't know for sure if she doesn't know.
That'st thing with Sofa, Like I like, I'm with you
where I don't think she knows anythink that'll be a revelation,
but this could just be a thing where she could
be two steps ahead of the game and has an
idea that Oswald's up to something, because I think what
we'll tell about them on more, but I think what's
gonna I hope comes back is Sofia has this plan, right,
and Okay, she hires this guy who formed detective who's
high and drops he's kidnapped some dude from the like
the dude from the hospital. That was like lots of
stuff happened in this episode. So I know I'm jumping around,
but I'm just trying to get to the point where,
you know, she kidnaps this guy, they're gonna interrogate him.
And then what happens is Penguin goes to JOHNNYV Like, oh,
you know you didn't tell me you were doing this
without me. I'm so loyal and you use one of
her guys, screw you guys, he walks away. They never
want She never once asked like how did you know?
I had a guy down there? Like they didn't ask
the point of origin, And I thought that was very
risky for Penguin do. I thought there was gonna be
like a maybe more uh, I don't know, suave Way,
he was gonna plump and he literally like he didn't complain,
but he's still like if she just mentions that to anybody,
he's just kind of fucked now because they think she's
gonna put get. So that's where it's like, I'm not
saying there's not a conversation that she's not already had
with somebody like, oh, how do you know? Oh Oswald
told me? And she just kept that like I could
see episodes five from now being like you think you
didn't know? I didn't know. You're the one that told me.
Like that's the thing. It's like, remember last week's to Sophia.
She did that to him already one. So I'm with
you that I don't think she knows about the mom
but I would not put it past her. To still
secretly know and she could just be like three d
chest forty chest Oswald right now because he's just so like, yeah,
let's dance like he's smart. But Oswald also can kind
of get a little overconfident at times, and I'm worried
that could be the case. You know, so Taylor's the
mum making el season or just the show.
Speaker 3: I think you guys are right. She's gonna kick the
bucket and it's gonna be someone, probably Sophia, that's involved
in killing her. And I think that's what's really gonna
help Oswald ascend to being in more of a position
of power, because once that happens, he's gonna be like, Okay,
fuck it, he's gonna get a killing spree.
Speaker 1: He's killing spree. I don't know she's gonna go killing spree,
but I killed.
Speaker 3: The three of the higher ups of the enemy crime families.
Speaker 1: Just gets in a car just mowing down Gotham citizens
and everything like that. But yeah, I guarantee what's gonna
happen is in a few episodes pen whenever one day,
Oz is gonna go home and his mom's gonna be
hanging from the roof. I promise you that that's the
image we're gonna get. I think she's gonna bustle the hanging,
which I found curious that they I don't think I
misheard that they said she only hung women. Was that correct?
That's what I say. Okay, I could be wrong, but
I swear they just said she only hung woman, which
is like interesting, But yeah, yeah, okay, so maybe I'm
hearing stuff.
Speaker 3: So I've got a question, primarily futurevis Kirkland feel free
to answer as well. So, how do you feel because
we got we got crime statistics here of how crime
has risen by like over forty percent, and how it's
just forty two, absolutely forty two, the city absolutely fucked.
How do you feel about like, because we all love
this as Batman, but how do we feel about him
just just leaving and not being around and just letting
the city just fall to shit?
Speaker 1: Like this depends what you define leaving though, Like if
we get to The Batman two and he's just in
blood Haven banging Selenea Kyle, then it's like, yeah, that's
kind of shitty. I think it's not on. I don't
think it's an accident that they said's up four two
percent and they also in one of those headlines that
he's missing, right, so either he's working on like they
could just say, okay, after the Batman movie, he was
just really fucked up and he's injured, right, They could
go with that because they are making this a more
realistic Batman, so they just say, hey, he's on the man,
he's a concussion, broken ribs, and he's just sitting there
as Gotham goes a shit or what I imagine, we're not
gonna get back out there. What I imagine is I feel
like he is dealing with one of the threats or
the threat for the Batman two, which would be okay,
it's a criminal threat, but it's more it's a higher echelon.
Like I don't think it's this, but the Court of Owls, right,
that's a secret organization said something that like Gotham News
wouldn't know, like oh, and the Baton's fighting you know,
uh god, well I can't remember the main bad guy's
name in Court of Owls shit, but anyways, like, oh yeah,
he's fighting the head of the court ouse. Like no,
I think it'll be something like that where he's he's
looking into something that's even worse than like the forty two,
because like, okay, then they sure Batman could drop down
and just like stop these people. But I think there
is one he wants it all to stick. But too,
I think there's just a uh something bigger out there,
a bigger fish to fry.
Speaker 2: Always a bigger fish talent, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, is the main criminal or one of the there's
multiple talents when there's like the talent that Bruce fights
a lot and stuff and has some ties to him.
Speaker 3: So what do you what do you think? Kirkland?
Speaker 2: I agree with the bigger fish sentiment. I feel like
it's also just like an easy way to explain kind
of what's been going on. Well, like, yeah, I can't
stop the corner store robberies because I'm looking into Talent
and Hook and all these other beak whatever the members
of of Quartabells are. Cause yeah, I imagine he's not
just banging Selena Kyle in whatever it's called on the Batmobile.
Speaker 1: Do what you want with your life.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it would be interesting though if there is
like a like a good story reason for why maybe
you had to step away, like you just got really
fucked up. They uh you took that adrenaline stuff, and
it's just never that's true. He's just like angry all
the time.
Speaker 1: Who knows, Yeah, because we don't know that last scene
when he says goodbye to Selina, we don't know when
that was. But yeah, I think I think they're making
that on purpose. I don't think it's a mistake. Like
I said, the crime going up and for ten and
plus even then, they just said, like there's multiple stuff right,
like that river wall has made more crime easy to happen.
They say they're letting people out of Arkham. They didn't
say exactly why, Like we knew that it was Sofia, but
it wasn't just her. Now it sounds like multiple people.
I don't know if it's an overcrowding. I don't know
what the deal is. So it's also the sense of
like if he is a realistic Batman, like crimes gonna
rise no matter what, Like he can't stop this all
like the flood, living more criminals and people getting out
of Arkham. He can't be everywhere all at once, which
I guess that's where you can maybe like introduce a Robin,
But I don't really want to Robin in this this
universe per se. But yeah, so we'll see. So what
do you guys think about what do you think it's
the trajectory because it's another interesting update. I thought we
got what's the trajectory of Penguin's lady friend there in
this series, she was worried about her girls getting hurt.
She figured out that he's using her as a cover
to for the Alberto Falcon murder. So she was really
laying on of like hey, like she didn't even say it,
be careful, just like I don't really like you're doing this.
You're back in the right horse. But I just feel
like both her and the mother were like not good signs.
Speaker 2: I feel like I very much thought that she was
gonna be like the easy kill until we had that
scene with the mom and then I'm like, are we
gonna get both? We definitely could, But just something in
me makes me think that she will be one that
kind of moves on, because she seems like a small
enough character that like she could also bounce up again,
like like somewhere else, be in the new Club Penguin Follia,
to like she'll be the second part there, No, I
don't know, just just to like have a familiar face
to pull from the show. If let's say Penguin is
in Batman two, like just to have that kind of tie.
I could see her kind of being that character. And
I don't know, she doesn't seem like she is important
to Oz, but she doesn't seem obviously as close as
what the mother dynamic would be. But no, still important.
So definitely, I think there'll be a decision that I
think Oz has to make that maybe she lives or
dies from it, And just a little hunch makes me
think she'll survive.
Speaker 1: Now, I will ask you this because we didn't talk
about this last week, and we talked about an after nine,
but I don't know if you guys caught the character
or not because Mike brought up. So I'll bring up
now because we're talking about like the future and every
thing like that. This character's name is Eve Carlow and
so she is technically the sister of Clay Face. And
that's where I'm wondering where, Like you said, I do
think she's someone that could pop up. And my trajectory,
I thought, like, if there's a situation where she gets
killed by the Penguin or the mob, I g's like,
it's it's so tough because a lot of these characters
we pitched because I think, like, okay, do you have
a situation where his sister dies? Because shoot, they also
I can't remember if it's at a cast in grid
or someone. They like specify that she uses like different
outfits for some of her clients, so kind of like
how brothers like a master skis and shit, So they
have that fetish going on. But like, is this a
scenario where he does she dies and he like blames
Penguin in the mob And that's how you kind of
interject clay face because Batman's trying to take them on
the Mob. And now you got this you know, serial
killer like like pretending to be this guy, pretending to
that guy. But that's like do you get too similar
to the Riddler? And I think that's the problem of
like with the Riddler, they already did the like in
Gread with the Mob. So I don't know how, but
I it's hard for me to really believe that Matt
Reeves just put in that last name for like no reason.
In my opinion, I just it's hard for me because
you know what people are gonna do with that name.
You could easily just made her a prostitute, the different names,
so giving her the name of that, that's where we
made me think that just her even talking about Watch
Out for Girls, I just felt like, Okay, I think
that was the only illusion of like, k could this
be leading to something towards in the sequel. I really
don't know, because maybe she's just dead next week and
it's just just a fun Easter egg. But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think you're far off with the concept of
them having the Mob and then clay Face and all
that kind of stuff the Penguin and I say that
all because like, if you look at those older Batman movies,
they didn't really have anything mob related. It was just
like a main bad guy with a bunch of henchmen
if you look Aloy Well, I was gonna say, Nolan
is where we really got the Mob heavily involved in
at least I'd say at least the first and second movies,
the Mob wasn't really there and the third one that.
Speaker 1: Takes over and that's right.
Speaker 3: So that's that's where I think, Okay, we really get
that world kind of highlighted. And so with Reeves's Batman,
it focuses a little bit on that well a lot,
a lot, a lot in the first one and then
again here with this show. So I feel like that's
definitely his focus point is having the mob attached to
all of these different, uh, these different like villains that
Batman's gonna be dealing with. We got a lot more
look at different family members here too, right obviously we
saw like falcones, I always forget falcone falcone falcones, uh,
like Sophia's uncle, and then we got to look at
her cousin and then a very tense scene where like
with the niece or she like pulls the east away
from Sophia. It's just very, very fucking awkward.
Speaker 2: So it's such a fucking weird scene. I I understand,
Like it seemed like the lady was so like I
don't know, like out of out of the situation, what
was going on, And then like her daughter came and
she's like, oh, you're a monster. It's like we just
fucking invited to go on like a girl's trip. But
like it is I know, but like it was just
such a strange, like why even have that interaction?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was just it was a weird. It was a
weird jump. It wasn't what I was expecting to happen,
but I don't know, it showed showed that she's she
is kind of scary, and I mean it's kind of
adding on to what you already brought up, Travis, of
just how the family's perception of her, Like when everyone
was there and she's just scorfing down the fucking noodles
or neck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was something there. Yeah, yeah, I
get what they're going for as far as like she
never meant that trip, and I think it was just
a show. Okay, she's trying to like make good with
Sophia to be like, yeah, like I'm always be your friend,
and then yeah, the daughter's there and like what do
you think she's gonna hang your daughter? And foreverybody like,
I don't think it's gonna with that, bro, you also
earn a mob family. But yeah, I think I guess
it just was I think the whole episode was trying
to push her to do that last scene of with
Oz to kind of say like screwed them, we gotta
take him down, right. I think that's what it was
trying to do. So it's showing, Okay, the uncle cast
her out, which I was wondering, like, I guess maybe
because she went to Arkham she was taking out, But
I would have thought like after all Berto died, she
would have been next in line, right, Like I don't
think it's like a well dragon.
Speaker 3: That's that's just hm, the uncle, he's the next in line.
Speaker 1: Right, But why why shouldn't have.
Speaker 3: Guess his brother his brother was Well, I guess because
you said the son. They set up the show with.
Speaker 1: The son being in charge, right, and it's like he was.
Speaker 3: Just high and thinking he was in charge, but he wasn't.
Speaker 1: No, he was in charge. I don't. I don't think
he just I think that's a whole on the show,
Like I don't, Like I said, it must have been
something like because she's an Arkham maybe that he didn't
have that change.
Speaker 2: Like the family didn't want her to be in charge though,
right because she is such a wild wild card.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what I'm just trying to wonder. Do
you think her dad had that or do you think
that's a mob family decision because like you couldn't while
he was alive technically here to die, you couldn't give
to Sophia because she well he's still kind of could
because Maroney's in jail and he's still run his family operation.
Speaker 2: So I this episode made it feel like there is
like there was already tension amongst the family, but now
it's just getting ramped up, and I feel like Sophia
is just gonna start fucking killing everybody. I really like
the scene, like the after math of when Oz kills
Buddy and then everyone's just like Oz leaves the knife
and Buddy's coat. It's just such a fucking little little rat.
I love it. But yeah, like like even before that,
he's like accusing I forget his name, Johnny or something,
whoever has the Yeah, that guy, he's just like, you
fucking did this, Like he's just like blaming him like
right away. And then yeah, like he's already just like
starting to point fingers. And then I love the moment
when uh, yeah, what was her uncle shot Buddy? And
then now like she like sees that guy as an
enemy because it's like who knows if he was gonna
say something more than that, like right from her perspective,
Like it was just a really high chaos scene, and
I loved what happened afterwards. And then of course you
have the dialogue amongst oz in her but yeah, no,
I'm fearful for the falcones.
Speaker 1: She just also want to be the one to kill him.
I feel too, like the one they killed her brother.
I think she wanted to do that honor of Yeah, yeah,
I would assume, like obviously she has lots of blood
relatives there, but her direct family. When they showed us
that gravestone and it was only for four slots, so
they don't Well, she does technically have a sister, which
I do have something to share with someone we're talking about,
you know, the the what is it the symmetry, which
you know, I got the wrong window hanging off to
pull it up. But she does have a sister out there.
But in her direct family, brother's gone, Mom died a
long time ago, and now dad's dead. So it's like, okay,
she's the family, but all this families like people she
can't really trust. I don't think or don't want her there.
She's kind of like the stepchild. But if you see
that at the end of the Batman it was Selina
looking at her mother's grave, and then Sophia at the
end of this episode being at the graveside it's just
always carmeon. But I have her mom too, so some
symmetry between her and Selena.
Speaker 3: Just weird thing. But Selena, his shoulders line up perfectly
with the total tombstone. It's like her body.
Speaker 1: So she's gonna look like in the bath on the
gravesite now. But uh, but I don't think she's gonna
get a chance to meet her sister. I think Oz
is gonna take her. I think she's gonna get I
think Selena. Yeah, obviously Selena is gonna die in this
show one off, but no, yeah, I think the hangman
is probably gonna get it. I don't think she'll make
it out alive. So anyone think otherwise.
Speaker 3: And I agree, I think you're right.
Speaker 2: But it's more interesting if that's not the case, So
I'm gonna I'll go the other side.
Speaker 1: I agree. I hope how we feel about Vic well,
like his status going. He had a bad week. He
didn't deal over the jewels, think made him lay down
in a grave threading them, and then you.
Speaker 2: Know death threats those guy's getting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I meant, Like a lot of things,
and like, I don't know, I'm gonna love every week
checking in on Victacy, like his death percentage was turn
percentage because I feel like I don't know he Penguin.
They did a great job. We talked about he got
this job. He didn't know how to drive, so he
learned from Friday to Monday how to drive and they
drove this crime boss round. Carmine fe foun out he's
talking on the FEDS. So Carmin had him dead, but
he saw something in Penguin, so again kind of what
we thought episode one last week, but more allusions to
Penguin just really seeing himself in Vic like giving him
a shot. But at the same time, I think he's
gonna I think he's gonna turn and die. Like I
just got a bad feeling he's gonna he's gonna turn
on Penguin. I don't know why, but I just something
my bones right now, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, like we like, how are they gonna carry this
character beyond the show? Right, Like it's another thing I'm
thinking of, Like it's not like he's gonna be Batman
two's main Villain's.
Speaker 1: Penguin lack that Batman beats on it.
Speaker 2: But there's not much room I don't think for for
like a Pattison you know.
Speaker 1: I like the vain villain of this show who has
a direct problem with Oswald. Crazy. I like, they keeps
you alive. I like see it, and then this guy
there's no room, there's no room for you. Sorry, I
don't know. I new club right, like Penguin's right hand man,
and he could be like that whiny guy Batman always
beats up or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also just like, I feel like it'll be
really tense if we're with him every single week and
then by the end, like you kind of mentioned, he
either turns or Oz kills him, or he dies or something,
and then it's just like, I don't know, like to
see that pain from Oz's perspective is going to be
satisfying to see, you know, callin FIL's performance. So I'm
kind of just putting all the chips on that happening.
I would be surprised if that's not the case.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we saw him get a text, now I get
before I get that, Like, I do feel sorry for him.
He was laying out in the grave just having a
rough getting caught putting jewels unsuccessfully.
Speaker 1: Jewels and if you know how much work that is
for me in a day, he got.
Speaker 3: A text though, and I'm assuming it was his buddies
saying like where have you been or something like that.
Did you see that, Maze.
Speaker 1: I can't assume it's his buddies. It could be family.
Speaker 3: We don't know who it is. Yeah, it was right
before the cam girls were like talking and chatting them up,
and she's like very interested in his relationship with Oz.
They really emphasized this scene.
Speaker 2: A little bit. I that that text that he got
I was I feel like I had some holdbacks last
week because I'm like, how does nobody fucking know or
care where this guy went? Like he clearly like had
a group that he was with and now they just
they just don't talk. So it was nice to get
this scene. I don't know who it was on the
other end, but at least someone is asking for him
because I imagine, you know, Oz kind of has them
on call twenty four seven, Like he doesn't have a
lot of free time. So even if like kind of
you know Oz and his conversation from last week alluded
to that like maybe his family died and the bloods
or something like like maybe he is alone, but that
wasn't confirmed, So I did like that he has something
someone out there kind of looking for him, and I
imagine that'll complicate.
Speaker 3: Why are you?
Speaker 2: I need you?
Speaker 1: It's funny because people because like, that's how he meets
the second Robin. Is the second Robins trying to still
tie off the Batmobile. So the fact that shoots at
that's how he met the second line.
Speaker 3: That's an interesting parallel, though. Could you see them making
him like maybe he does get saved and he Bruce
like this is like Batman three, you get vic as
the Robin, so Vick is around for another show, two movies.
Speaker 2: His bare hands.
Speaker 1: I don't you can get something awest because I always
wonder now when Matt Reeves is like, hey, you know this,
we had an idea for Penguin and Batman two and
then they want to show so obviously it's flushed out,
but whatever, we're not whatever, but majority of stuff or
at some point some storyline they're gonna do with Penguin
was this story? So I always go like, hey, what
are And they've said he's coming back for the Batman too,
so I'm like, hey, if you're doing that story in
the show, what is he Because they also don't want
Penguin just to I guess he could just be like
a goom that's always around. So that's why I do
think like the whole Eve Carlow, you know, Clay Facing,
that could get Penguin involved, right because Penguin like led
to the death of his sister. That's a direct story
tie right in. But like you know, Taylor's meming like
his forder proge becoming a rob and is like, that's
a direct reason also get him in. I don't think
that's gonna happen, but like I would be a pose.
I like the actor enough. I don't know in this
world if I feel like when we get to James
gun Batman, that's where you can't have like the what
was Hit Girl? You can have like the Damien Wayne
who's like ten years old kicking ass everything. But like
if you have like passing team of like a ten
year old kid in this GoF is like, I don't
know if I really buy it per Se and Liast
this guy's like a young kids, so I are like
a younger man, So I guess I could buy it,
but I I'll still say I don't think so. But
it's not like out of the realm of possibility, because
again that it has a similar origin, and we'll get
the same fucking shit's Dark Knight Rise. It's like Ping
will find his real idea, Like what's your name? You
told me your name was Vic. Oh, that's my male
name is actually as Jason Jason to that's a big reveal.
Speaker 3: You know, are there any robins that have a stutter?
Speaker 1: No? But Batman would beat that out of them that
they did, you know, just like yeah, a bunch of
enough times, like a proper So would you would you
want that to tear him to become a future like
if that's how it ended of like.
Speaker 3: You said it, Like, I'm actually pretty interested in that.
I think that'd be a really cool turnaround. And I
like the idea like yeah, this form of protege of
the penguin, Uh, his heart's not in it, That's how
I feel. And so for him to eventually becoming like
maybe he's doing something for Oz and then Batman like
catches him and it's just unforeseen turn of events. Alfred
convinces him, like Alfred just opens with the bat Cave
and then let's fix Okay.
Speaker 1: Well let's not do what we did in Batman Forever,
all right? Just or no, I guess he didn't do that.
He did that in Batman any Name with Vicky vale
Alford just.
Speaker 3: Let him out, that's right.
Speaker 1: Remember, No, Chris o'donald is pretending to laundry in Batman Forever,
and he was doing he like fucking flipped his way
into the into the U. So maybe not that, even
though I would love to see Robert Passons Bruce Wayne
like act that, like he's just always so haunted and
just seeing like what are you doing here? Like he
just like be traumatic. But again, I don't necessarily want
a Robin in these movies. We only got three, and
it's not a waste of time. If Matt Reeves feels,
hey I got a great Robin story, I want to
tell it, then I'm all ears. But for me, if
it's like, okay, we're only doing three of these and
they're already saying like we have a come firm Robin
is in Brave in the Bold, like the movies about
Batman and his son being Robin, So it's like I
don't really want that here, Like we got two more
movies of Patison and rather just let's just do Pattison.
And if it's if he has a sidekick. Then it's
Selena not to like bring her down, but like that's
what I'd want, like have him team up with her
or not not, you know, maybe he could maybe they
could say this character is like an informant. It could
be like the way Nolan did a Robin, where like
Joscore Levitt was his Robin, but he was just like
a cop, like his sidekick. So I could see that
maybe Batman uses him as like a informant or something.
But no, I think he's not long for this world either,
you know. I feel like the only thing I could
make it past are Penguin obviously. And then I think
Clancy Brown just because they did set up Remember that
they set up Maroney was one of the possible people
that had Bruce's parents killed. And I think Clancy Brown
is just not that other people aren't strong enough actors.
But he's still like has like Clason Brown's a weird
character because I feel like tons of people still don't
know him. He's one of those oh that guy actors.
That's the thing, right, Like if I asked my mom
or amily who's Clancy Brown, they probably won't know. But
if he's sowm my photo, right, away and like he
was just in John Wicks so and I would like
them to put those strings together of Bruce, like if
Maroney gets out and he but I could also see
Maroney getting out in like the finale and then Penguin
is killing him because like, I feel like they've set
it up that Penguin's gonna be the guy, like the
mob guy, so he kind of has to take out everybody, right,
But yeah, what do you guys feel we talk about
bit we saw but a Ferni Ferroni fuck Flony, No,
not Moroni, thank you. Imagine that if he was and
he was my brother and Dave Filony hat on.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 1: But anyways, set Moroney, we met his family, But yeah,
what do you guys feel about his status right now?
Because Penguin he's working with them, but they also asked
me to get that out Penguin. I'm killing that guy.
So Penguin is like he's and we'll talk about the
end of this episode after, but he's still two times
in both of them. But yeah, do you guys think
Morony could make it or do you think he's also
going to be a casualty in this show.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of split on him. I feel like, because
he is in prison, it seems like he's safe, but
that also might be a good person to kill off
if like Sophia gets to him, it's like, holy fuck,
we thought he was safe, but like she got to
him in the prison cell. You know, have him hanging
in a cell like that's like a pretty easy image
to have on there. But I don't know, because you
later got a lot of good reasons to keep him
just moving forward for Batman two. So I'm I'm pretty yeah,
I'm pretty dead even on that, I feel like it
could really go either way. I would want him to
stay in because I'm just I'm loving Clancy Brown on school.
He's fantastic and yeah, no, I liked how last week
Oz was like so confident of like saying that the
Maroney's will take the they'll take the hit for just
like the clout and like all all these reasons. And
then we get here and like Clancy Brown was thtartning
to like stab and like you think, we'll just take
it for this reason, and they ended up doing it
just because he's able to kind of spin it like
a good sales pitch on why they should do it
and then they got a deal out of it. So
I just like those those grimy deals that are going on,
and especially we've seeing oz orchestrate them, is lots of
fun and I like that it wasn't just it didn't
just go as plan right, like, you know, just waste
everyone in the first vehicle, I'm not gonna be in there,
and then fuck he gets thrown in the first vehicle.
And just the way that he like he played out
that sequence too, was was fantastic. When he gets the
guy says the joke and then he says a different
joke and just fucking off them all, Like he's just
he's literally just rolling with the punches in these scenes
and it's like life or death situations. So it's just
really yeah, it really high stakes there. But uh yeah,
I kind of added a little bit too much extra
to your question there. But can reel it.
Speaker 1: Back about Clancy Brown, you know, yeah, Venison, Yeah, coach
our dex reviews Kurt one of the best reviewed characters.
They talked about man like, that's what I want about.
I want to get a sniper in the Batman. He
needs to go toe to toe Patterson.
Speaker 3: You know, like gear that white camel you get snow
in the Batman like, I, oh.
Speaker 1: Well, it's coming. There was a promo today of like
a future episode of Penguin and there was snow and
goth and so it's coming and yeah, imagine that, mom coach.
They go like, imagine that. It's like wedding crashers. Like
they go on like a hunting scene him and Bruce
like and man like, oh, let's you want to talk
to your Familylet's go for a let's go for a
little stroll. And and he has like he's the full
Kurt gear, like exact ripoff just Kurt. Yeah, but same set.
Speaker 2: We like go to the same fucking cabin that he had.
Speaker 1: And oh that's what confirmed Dexter's in this. He's he's
one of the crime rates that's.
Speaker 2: Under Twine Universe. Isn't Exter a comic book or is that.
Speaker 1: Now they made it? They made it after and stuff
like that. But uh, yeah, he was always my fan cast.
I want him as Riddler, not what we call Paul Dana.
I don't see. Well, actually, you know, Michael C. Hall
could have done that. He can play a weirdo, but
like I always wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Clancy Brown Thriller I'm like, I'm for it. Give him
like a Jim Carrey, you.
Speaker 1: Know, scene of him in uh the Brown do that?
But no, no, no, he kind of does that a
little bit of his curt He only freaks out on
Dexter's a few times. But no, Michael C. Hall when
there's rumors Riddler was going to be in the Nole movies, like, oh,
that's the guy right there, like Michael C. Hall and
Nol together. But what we'll get Taylor's Clancy Brown thoughts
after this next outbreak and we're back, So how are
you feeling right now? I'm Ronnie Taylor's he getting out?
Is he dying? Does he get to Batman too? Because
he does have some ties up, Bruce.
Speaker 3: You know, he's getting out, He's getting out.
Speaker 1: I think the big screen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'll make it to the big screen.
I do. I think God had a point ship that
has escaped my mind.
Speaker 1: I call Clancy Brown playing the Riddler that.
Speaker 3: None of that.
Speaker 2: Arctic.
Speaker 4: I just think, yeah, with Clancy Brown playing this this character,
I think that they're they're just getting started and there's
a lot of just chaos going on in the Falcon
area of things, and so it just seems like they're
family is just getting one step ahead every step of
the way, especially with Oz helping them out.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just I just think that he's going
to He's gonna come out on top. And I I
have a butcher pronouncing her name show ray Ah dash Lou.
She was the main lead in the Maroney family here
who almost got Oz like Stad.
Speaker 1: She's a great actress.
Speaker 3: She is a great actress, and she voiced one of
the main assassin's sasque mirage Like her voice is fucking fantastic.
I think it's super badass. And so she was actually
in Rent Ryan Renfield in the Cage too.
Speaker 1: Actually, I think yeahs a bunch. I first saw her
and raised anatime. She's Taylor. Didn't you recently watch X
Men three or did you skip that one?
Speaker 3: I skipped that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, she's been there. Yeah, she's a scientist working on
the cure. Yeah, she just pops up everywhere.
Speaker 3: So yeah, really cool that she's in here, and she's
part of the Maroney family as well. Uh yeah, So
I I think that they're gonna they're gonna stick around.
And I think that if you said that Maroni is
responsible for killing Bruce's parents, and I don't say that.
Speaker 1: I said that's what they insinuated in the Batman as
an option to insinuated.
Speaker 3: Okay, then I think that you to me, it makes
sense that they would follow up with that and tie
it in a little bit more into the story, at
least because Bruce thinks.
Speaker 1: That, well, no, again, I don't know what he doesn't
know what to think. You need to watch Batman. Falcone
insinuated that Maroney had his parents killed. Okay, so it
is from Falcone. But even Alfred says, like, I don't
know if Falcone did it killed your parents. I don't
know if Maroney did. I don't know if it was
just random mugger on the street. So like Bruce really
doesn't know. Still, but there that was an option because
the Maronis did not like what the Waynes were trying
to do to Gotham as well. And I can't remember
the exact wording, but that's one of the reasons why
they go, oh, it was Maroney. I think he was
the one that exposed Martha for being Arkham. Remember she
was an Arkham and the Batman and that got out
there in the public. I think Maroney had a hand
in that. So I think that he went to Falcone
and he wanted it stopped, and that's where all the
you know, X, Y and Z and all this stuff.
So that's where there's either way, there's his if he
killed the Waynes, if he or hit whatever, there's there's
history between the Waynes and the Moroney's, the same way
there's the Falcones. Now. I feel like that was settled
last one with Carmine because Batman literally saw him die
and he didn't have to worry about Alberto. I don't
think you have to worry about Sophia. And then the
only Falcone left technically will be Selena that of course
he'll be all up in. So like I feel like
the Cone film family kind of gets closed with this show,
and that's where you can kind of bring in the
Maroney family, which is kind of funny because like people
that always compare these to the Nolan films, that's exactly
what the Nolan films did. It was the Falcones first
and then Marony, so it is kind of, you know,
going that same path. So that's why I could I
could see Clancy Brown also just dying and just Penguin
being the soul, not that there won't be other mobsters,
but he is the kingpin now, So even though I
love Clancy Brown.
Speaker 3: Maybe he'd keep him locked up, right, because then not,
I mean he could still call shots, I guess if
he's locked up, But yeah, he could keep him because
he's Is he a black Gate or Arkham? Because I feel.
Speaker 1: Like one, yeah, arguable it is, but like you get
out easier, you know.
Speaker 3: I guess there's this case. Yeah they're not letting Clancy
Brown out, but they're let out of our coman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're letting this lady who's like having midday flashes
to his stuff. Which that was really good scene. I
loved that because first we'll talk about her doctor in
a second, but she had a hallucination while she was
at their therapist. And then later on the show at
the funeral, they were playing a video of her and
her brother when they're younger. But I like, at first
they didn't play it off. You didn't know it was
a video, so they thought she was just fucking hearing
voices again and hearing her mom call her, and she was,
and she went in his video and she's trying to
not get upset. But yeah, we got to the beginnings
episode where she was looked like she was back in
Arkham and they're talking about how she could go. But
you gotta do this, like at first like okay, we're
getting a full flashback, and then like, oh, well someone's
here to see you. It's a bird. All of course,
his head gets blown shows with pinky that's gone. Head
gets blown off right in front of her. She's screaming,
I guess you know the great Theo Rossi, who I
loved there since Sons of Anachar. He was in Luke
Cage as well. He has some sort of light led
thing that goes back and forth and everything like that.
And I can't remember what his name was, and I
searched it up and I think it's Julian Rush was
his name, but it's no one in DC related. But
because the lights and because he's being creepy, yeah, okay,
I think it was, Yeah, doctor Julian Rush. I don't
think this is the case. They're gonna go down. Lots
of people are like, that's Hugo Strange. Apparently that's like
a theory right now, because Hugo Strange is like does
some mind fucking stuff and he's kind of a weird
guy too, but I really don't because I don't know,
Like that's again that's almost too Nolan type of reveal
of like, oh, well, my name is doctor Julian Rush,
but I used to be Hugo Strange, Like I don't,
I don't necessarily need that.
Speaker 2: But is Hugo Strange like in the comics and stuff,
because my only experience with him is in Arkham City.
Is he normally like that level of like a villain?
Speaker 1: That's like depends. There's times where so, yeah, there's been
there's been times where he's just been like a nobody
in there times where he's like one of the main guys.
So it just kind of depends on the writer and
who's doing it working with him. Plus like not that
I needed exact because like, look at Riddler, he doesn't
look like the Riddler. But I think Hugo Strange is
an easy enough guy that you can't find a bald
guy and with a beard, like literally since he's lost
the weight, Like Dave Batista is the fucking pick. Like
you look at Da Bautista right now, he'd make a
great Hugo Strange. Nothing Aginstele Ross. It's just like, I
don't know if I need like hot Hugo Strange, Like
that's one where it's I get the Riddler, But Hugo
just looks like a dude, So I'd like him to
look like he does in the Calm books. He's never
been in a movie, and yeah, he's fucking great in
Arkham City. That was he was like a prime villain there.
So Hugo and Heugh was strange to me. He fits
like the matt Reeves first, you know, like that's one
where it's like, oh, that's perfect there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So I was waiting because I thought I was like, man,
this is gonna be doctor Crane or something like fuck,
I'm I was looking for that name and then it
said Julian Rush and like, oh, okay, nobody, You're nobody.
Speaker 3: Which did you mention bea d Wong's Hugo Strange? Did
you mention that one? Why would that's in Gotham? Right?
Speaker 1: Is that a movie?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I thought you meant live action. I didn't realize
you said the movie.
Speaker 1: Keep up, keep up. No, I'm joking, but yeah, no,
in a movie. It's never been there, And like, I
don't know a handful of people saw Gotham, but yeah,
beat d Wong was a great hugo strange, he looked
like him, but yeah, he was done with.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of bea d Wong.
Speaker 3: You never in a Jurassic World letting the locusts out
his long hair.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that guy are you looking at It's
funny because I watched Jurassic World thought too long ago,
just randomly I threw it on and I totally forgot
about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the first one. Totally forgot about that character.
And then it made me think of where he is
by the end of those Yeah.
Speaker 1: There he is. He was strange so like, but that's
what I mean that look the glass of the lab,
the glasses, the beard, like you could have anybody do.
That's that's Da Bautista.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 1: Search up Taylor next, go search up de Batista Killer's
game Red Carpet and see what he looks like right
now man when he put indeed, just Dix came up
as a search.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: But look at that picture. That that's fucking you go
strange right there, my friend's like and he'd be great,
you know how you would be like think about like
a much I don't think have you all seen Blade Runner?
I know Taylor has Kirkland. You never saw twenty fourty nine, right,
did you?
Speaker 2: Twenty forty nine.
Speaker 1: The sequel Blade Runner twenty forty nine?
Speaker 2: Never seen any Blade Runner movie?
Speaker 1: Okay? Taylor put in that as well, putting Blade Runner
twenty four nine with Batista's name there. Obviously he is
like bigger there, but like even that role where he's
a bit more quieter and at first it's creepy, but
lots of revealed where like, oh this character actually wasn't creepy.
Look at those little glasses right there, Like now he's
like the perfect size. You got those glasses? Yeah, come on,
Matt Reeves, but off, I'm with you. But anyways, back
to Julian Rush weird saying, because he was definitely like, uh,
he's getting a little hard right in that moment. They're
always holding her right, oh yeah, happening.
Speaker 3: There is something up against her backside, and.
Speaker 1: That's why she freaked out. She's like, what are you
doing here? You know? So we'll see. Do you think
what's gonna happen there? I think what's gonna happen is
they're gonna get on then she's gonna kill him, that's
my prediction.
Speaker 3: Like during.
Speaker 1: Maybe actually Sophia is the type of person, but no,
I think it'll be after. I think she'll like he'll
like overstep his boundaries and then she'll just be done
with him. Or he's like a plant or something like
maybe the Falcones have specifically paid him to like try
to push her in a certain direction, and she's gonna
figure that out and then she's gonna hang on. But
not in not He's not gonna be hung in the
good way. I'll tell you about that. You know it'd
be bad. Next snap dead balls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the building.
Speaker 1: Now they call me the hung Man. He's just they
just fine.
Speaker 2: What a way to go?
Speaker 3: Hung Man.
Speaker 1: Main villain for the Batman too, thought the hanging was dangerous.
Speaker 2: He lives, He lives, and he's forever changed.
Speaker 1: What villain does he become if he lives? We already
got we got Joker. What batman villain could he become?
Oh man, that's talent right there, Sadder. You can, mister freeze,
you cut off the circulation. He's like blue balls. His
whole body like gets cold behind that behind that mister
Freeze versus Batman versus.
Speaker 2: What really kills the dinosaurs?
Speaker 1: These nuts skirling? What's going on with the Jilian rush?
Speaker 2: Oh jeez?
Speaker 1: And did you like the stuff? He's a therapist. He's
a therapist.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I recognize this cat. I don't know what
from you mentioned Sons of Anarchy. I feel like I've
seen one episode of that show.
Speaker 1: But he's in a bunch of stuff. He's a good
character actor. He never saw Luke Cage using that too.
There's other stuff. He's really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I really liked him in the scene. And yeah,
it's just I don't know, exploring a psycho character. Psyche
is always interesting, so I'm interested in kind of what
happens moving forward with those characters. But I really love
the way that scene played out. It just, I don't know,
just something with like a serial killer and like a
therapist office just you know, called back to some Hannibal glory.
So I was definitely thinking about those sequences. But no,
I just love the dream sequence moment when she sees
her brother, and then just the way that the light
was going back and forward was very interesting. And yeah,
I hope much more to say other than it's just fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope we actually get a therapy scene because
he asked her and then she like freaked out. I
hope there's like a good solid because I got a
good actor, So I hope there's a good solid and
fifteen minutes scene if.
Speaker 2: There never seen again, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the Batman too. They're saying him, that's
that's the strange You never saw the Penguin show. That's
he goes strange. But no, I hope, like even if
maybe that's how they because we've seen scenes of her ANARCA,
maybe that's how they do the flashbacks, just do the
therapy lessons, and I very much enjoy that. So anything else, I.
Speaker 3: Can't think of anything. We covered most of it.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I don't really have anything else to
and I don't think I feel like there was something,
but I don't know, got mixed in the weeds.
Speaker 1: Okay, talk about Penguin, talk about Falcone, talked about poor
I did actually like Sophia's little uh bodyguard there, but
unfortunately the ball guy heat into the wrap and I
thought John V was gonna get it there with the knife.
I thought Penguin was gonna uh plant him, right, there
I still did, I miss I still missing? Why these
photos of him with that woman are so born?
Speaker 2: Well, that's so that's John's wife, right that or no,
not John? What's his name? V? Whatever the his name is,
that's V Eagle. It's like the two partners, the one
guy the photos are with the other guy's wife.
Speaker 1: That's okay, So what we talked about. So the guy
that is Falcone's brother, right, so he has uncle okay.
Speaker 2: And Johnny's sleep mother.
Speaker 1: Penguin's big play got these photos they open up, it's
just Johnann's sex with his wife. It's like, so I
got more.
Speaker 3: That's the guy that executed, like the trader, like his
wife with VD.
Speaker 2: I think it's just like the two at the head,
right or is there three?
Speaker 1: Is there a third guy?
Speaker 2: But all three of them were included, and that's the gins.
But out of the two, the one guy's sleep on
the other guy's wife.
Speaker 3: And then who was the guy Because when Penguin arrived
at the funeral, there's the woman, the blonder woman, and
then the guy leaving and he's like Penguin's like, I
got something you want to see, but he just got
ignored and they left and got in the limo drove off.
Speaker 1: Was that not the uncle though, because I thought, here.
Speaker 3: The uncle was there the whole time.
Speaker 2: Though it looked like was he just or Milo whatever
that guy his name is or whoever? Yeah, whatever one
that is that's his wife, the blonde chick. And then
what's the fuck what's his name? Johnny? Yeah, he's the
one sleeping with that guy's wife. And then the third one,
Luca is the one that shot Buddy.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Luca is not in the equation. No, so
is Carmine's brother. But like why, like why, I guess
I'm still waiting to see. Does he just want to
create tension I guess between the two, because like he's
still not the head like car.
Speaker 2: I feel like he was. He was already like Oz
was going head to head with mostly that Johnny guy.
Seem like Milo was kind of okay with it. So
it seemed like that was his play to really fuck
that guy over. That's the least that.
Speaker 1: Guy over, but he fed him over. That's how they
call me one.
Speaker 2: Batman too, that's his name.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the motherfucker penguin. Okay, I still wish
to make that a bit more clear again, maybe I
missed something, but I just said because at least it
is what I theorized last week. Looks, I'm like, what
does the matter if this guy is like even if
he's just cheen on his wife, like he's like a mobster.
But I did say, like, unless it's with someone else's wife,
and it supposedly is, so hopefully that gets uh comes
to a head soon.
Speaker 2: So yeah, agreed.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I think that's it for this week.
If you got any questions that we missed or anything,
hit us up in the discord or on patron and
we will bring them to next week or we'll talk
about it whenever. But yeah, next week, Yeah, we'll be
back with that episode three. Hopefully it's another great one,
and we promise you it'll not be boring.
Speaker 2: Bye.