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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and Jim and welcome back to the Penguin

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Review Series. I don't know what I'm calling what we're

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calling it, but episode two for the Penguin. I am

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the clown Prince of Jules Trust. Now I'm joined.

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Speaker 2: By I am the Ring Bearer, Ker Colmpatzer, the.

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Speaker 3: You and Me data Field.

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Speaker 1: Yes, ladieshim and as I just said, we are here

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to talk about the Penguin, the pseudo sequel I guess,

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to the Batman movie. This is in between and speaking

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the episodes Patreon or on the podcast piece. But we

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just in an after nine episode and we're probably gonna

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talk about a little of that stuff tonight. But we

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had some really good discussions on Mar's Batman and Batman

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two and other DC stuff, so check out after Night in.

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Generally we went about almost half an hour over. It

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was a good time. It's one of those words, it's

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like I love them. We're just we're going off topics,

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but it's random stuff. So big thank you to everyone

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that showed up and joined us. There was a very

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fun episode and yeah we got that going on. We

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have the finale rings the Powers. Later this week we

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got Joker too, which boys, it's gonna be late night

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on Thursday. We're gonna have Joker and Rings the Power

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back to back. That's gonna be uh spicy and me

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to borrow, so we'll see. And then this week.

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Speaker 2: That's how I feel about that. Yeah, I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, but that means great content. And then we've

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got Agatha episode four this week there's gonna be side

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quest hosted by as of right now, Taylor and Kirkland.

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Speaking of that, April Bray No I always do it,

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big shout out to all them, and Lenny Kravitz. He's

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not on there yet but I'm sure we will be

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at some point. Taylor, what do you feel about the

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episode Penguin Episode two Inside Man.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's still picking up steam and just it

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really has this weird, like kind of captivating aesthetic to it.

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I love that it's carried over from that first episode,

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so everything that was going on here really was just

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pulling me in. I really really enjoyed that they're still

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just sprinkling little bits of humor in here. And this

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isn't a spoiler, but like Oz is trying to cross

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the street and this car pulls up and honks and

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he's like, go, you go, and the car just stays

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there for a second. Oz is like what, And then

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the car goes and he walks across and he's like

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something like what the fucking idiot. It's just those those

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little quality of life kind of moments that they're just

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sprinkled in throughout the show so far that I really like.

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It's not progressing the narrative in any way. It just

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kind of adds to the atmosphere of the show. And

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feel very grounded. There are certain things that are revealed

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in this episode that are really intense and really crazy,

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and there's just these certain little reminders that remind you

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of where these characters are currently in their journey and

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just how ill this world is and how things can

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really really change, and how it does a good job

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at reaffirming to you that This isn't like an MCU

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story where every you know our characters is gonna come

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out okay and everything like that. And of course we

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know Penguin's gonna come out okay at the end of

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this because he's Penguin, but he's the characters that he's

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affiliated with. Though, that's where it feels like we're just

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you're unsure because things can really really change around. But

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just how he's changing the plans and just kind of

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coming up with these ideas and always has something in

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his jacket pocket that he can just pull out and

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and just kind of get out of a sticky situation.

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in a situation where like, oh, like, oh my god, Like,

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is he gonna get capped? But no, I truly believe

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he's gonna come out and will be in The Batman

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Speaker 2: I loved it fully, I do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just rip off the title The Batman fully,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, yeah, I am still loving this show.

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I think it's fantastic. I felt like this one didn't

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but it was also the first episodes, so it was

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like the first you know, a lot of anticipation build up.

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week's episode quality wise. And yeah, I liked how you're

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just shouting out their Taylor, like the like the realistic

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little little moments that that happened. I feel like those

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those sequences, whether it's you know, last week we're talking

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about the pickles and just like his little speech about pickles,

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or if you think of like what is it like

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reservoir dogs for example, Just like certain like dialogue that

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they have like in especially in like a Tarantito film,

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where they'll just go off about like something super random

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and as you said to like, it doesn't progress this

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like the plot or the story or anything, but it's

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just I don't know, it makes the overall what's happening

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just a lot more realistic because it is just a conversation,

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like a nothing conversation that a lot of people would

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I love when he was talking about like the Cilantro.

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I'm I'm one I hate Cilantro, so like he's like

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and then I get it, it's like, okay, whatever, I

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can pick it up. But with cilantro, that's one where

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it's like, no, I cannot touch that. It's such a

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powerful flavor. But you know, I so this is kind

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of what he's talking about in the episode, and it's like, man,

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just makes the performance that much more authentic. And Colin

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isn't safe, like like maybe he won't make it out

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of this, uh this this season here. And I feel

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like I'm happy that I am anting those thoughts because

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it makes it makes me nervous now fall, Like even

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though he isn't like a good guy, I'm still like,

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oh man, like like how is he gonna? I don't know,

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Sofia Falcone she's she's really I would say she was

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my standout in this episode specifically, it seemed like it

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was a little bit more focused on on her more

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so than the last. But no, I'm really liking just

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what's going on with her and her own psyche, which

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is pretty twist and messed up. But uh, yeah, I'm

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really loving this, like the especially, I don't know, there's

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something special about these Sunday Night reviews, whether it's House

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the Dragon or or this just you know, boot up Crave,

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you get that HBO little little Yeah exactly, It's like, man,

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I'm ready for this, and I think it just I

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don't know, it's it's like Sunday Night Football. It's Sunday

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Sunday Night TV, and it's just the qualit is just

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Chef's kiss. I'm really loving the show.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they put Halo on Sunday, you guys would have

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been uh, you know, like maybe.

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Speaker 2: It would have boosted my overall thoughts zero point five

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or something. Who knows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I sound exactly like these gentlemen. Another great episode.

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I think they're laying the groundwork, especially at the end

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of this episode. I feel like maybe it'd be a

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good thing for Oz, but I feel like they put

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him in an even more difficult position. I'm very excited

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because it's just it's that class Like the episode's called

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inside Man, and I think that this is episode two

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it has, I guess not to the same extent, but

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what I love is uncut gems when a character's doing

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something and you got so little time, or there's so

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many people working against you, and you gotta do this,

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this and this, and even this episode, I thought for

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sure all this is for sure gonna happen, and then

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it didn't. And I love that. And it just feels like,

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already in episode two, the walls aren't closing in, but

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it's like he can only kind of walk this tight

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rope for so long. So I can't even imagine when

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we're gonna get to the penultimate episode and finale like

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where I just feel like it is gonna be pressure

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to the emp degree and I can't always see Calin

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Farrell act that out. I think we got a lot

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it for Spoils. There's a lot of characters in particular

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that we only saw maybe a scene of last week.

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I feel like we're learning more of and two that

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I'm fascinated by because I don't I feel like one

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and one we talked about a bit on the Batman,

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but I just don't know if it is a set

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for the sequel or not. And it feels a little

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like they could go that round. And that's what's fun

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about the show. Even they introduced the other character with Sophia,

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and that was really cool and I always see people

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theorizing who that is, but no Sophia, she continues, they

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I think she had the best scenes in this episode.

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the ones I was most intrigued by, especially with this

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dynamic of in most minor sports, she's being reintroduced into

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the family, but she's still known as a serial killer, right,

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it doesn't even matter. It shows that even though they

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are a crime family. We talked about this last week,

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where like, oh, the Riddler was a step above that.

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Maybe she's not to the Riddler's level, but she's like

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a step above the crime family feel as far as like,

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oh this isn't okay, like you're kind of weird and everything.

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I think they gave her some really good tense scenes

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and we got to learn a lot about Gotham in

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this just on the radio or new slippings or people

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talking about what's going on. So that's fascinating. And yeah,

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I'm every week, I'm just interested in Cek, where are

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they gonna go, what's gonna be this week's problem, And

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especially now with episode two's ending, I'm very curious in

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the next couple of weeks how Oz uses this new

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thing he's obtained to kind of maneuver around, which it

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could also I can't say is gonna be his downfall

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because I don't think he's gonna lose, but like, I

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think he's gonna lose some things, and I think the

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things he does lose is unfortunately the thing he's agreed

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to or with in the the ending of this episode,

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which we'll get into, spoils. I just feel like that's

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kind of the you know, Icarus flying too close the sun,

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the you know, every example you want to baking your

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cake and eat it too. It's like, yeah, at the moment,

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this might seem like a good idea, but man, this

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is gonna really blow up. And I feel like they

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set the stage with two things an episode. So I

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feel like this episode was great on its own, but

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last week felt like just a nice almost a little

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warm Brothers be like, Oh the Daylight the Penguin and

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he's trying to frame get power and then he gets

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away with it, and then you know he's back on

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his own with Vic and they're doing this stuff right

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where this literally, I think was like, Okay, here's the path,

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here we're going, here's where we're going, and let's see

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what's gonna happen. And I think I got an idea,

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but not exactly. And that's what I like about the

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show so far. And yeah, acting is always superb, and yeah,

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I'm like Kirkan said, it's great to have every weekend.

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It's gonna suck a lot when we don't have this

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and the Batman doesn't come out in twenty twenty five

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out twenty twenty six, have it'd been such a nice

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crescendo of all this ends. But oh, we're only, you know,

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less than a year away. But now it's like, ah,

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we're like pretty much too well, we are two years away,

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which is just fucking just oh, dagger to the heart.

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So I wanted to start with Oz's mother. So in

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this episode, I can't remember last week, did they specifically

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say she had dementia or they just say she was

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on Well, they didn't say that, right, They didn't say

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it though, yeah, okay, And even then I feel like

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they caught her in a good day where she's okay,

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she needs some care taking care of. He wants to

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take care of her. But we learned this episode she

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was like out and about in her house, didn't have

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her jacket on. It's cold there, it's getting colder. They've

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talked about. And then there's I guess he's just a neighbor, right,

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penguin was paying I think the landlord. Oh he's landlord. Okay,

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think I missed that part. So he's landlord and the

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landlord it says, oh, you should get her some help

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and everything, and then you know, he just gives her money.

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I don't pay her for your you know, mac hoole

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advice or whatever he says, and then you know whatever,

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that's all good dandy. I think she is somebody that

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she's not making it. I don't see the penguin going

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in to the batman too with his matter live. And

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I think she is somebody that's gonna getting killed.

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Speaker 3: Man, she getting killed, especially because she told she He

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told Sophia too that like, oh, my brother died a

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few years back, and I think that's very highlighted detail.

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Speaker 2: Right as soon as he said that, I was like,

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it's over for you. It's over for you mother. And

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Speaker 1: About Falcon last week, remember that he killed them, so

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that she has that information as well. And she's not

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right in the mind, so that could just slip maybe easily.

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Speaker 2: The way that Sophia played the scene, it for a second,

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it almost made me think that she like knew that

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his mom was like still alive or something, just because

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she like froze for a second, like really like looked

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at him. And then it's like, oh, is this like

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the start of like, Okay, I just caught you in

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a lie. But now now that I think about it,

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like in retrospective, I don't think that is the case,

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but she like she's gonna find out eventually, and yeah,

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it's not gonna end well for the mom.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know for sure if she doesn't know.

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That'st thing with Sofa, Like I like, I'm with you

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where I don't think she knows anythink that'll be a revelation,

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but this could just be a thing where she could

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be two steps ahead of the game and has an

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idea that Oswald's up to something, because I think what

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we'll tell about them on more, but I think what's

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gonna I hope comes back is Sofia has this plan, right,

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and Okay, she hires this guy who formed detective who's

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high and drops he's kidnapped some dude from the like

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the dude from the hospital. That was like lots of

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stuff happened in this episode. So I know I'm jumping around,

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but I'm just trying to get to the point where,

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you know, she kidnaps this guy, they're gonna interrogate him.

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And then what happens is Penguin goes to JOHNNYV Like, oh,

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you know you didn't tell me you were doing this

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without me. I'm so loyal and you use one of

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her guys, screw you guys, he walks away. They never

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want She never once asked like how did you know?

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I had a guy down there? Like they didn't ask

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the point of origin, And I thought that was very

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risky for Penguin do. I thought there was gonna be

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like a maybe more uh, I don't know, suave Way,

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he was gonna plump and he literally like he didn't complain,

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but he's still like if she just mentions that to anybody,

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he's just kind of fucked now because they think she's

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gonna put get. So that's where it's like, I'm not

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saying there's not a conversation that she's not already had

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with somebody like, oh, how do you know? Oh Oswald

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told me? And she just kept that like I could

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see episodes five from now being like you think you

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didn't know? I didn't know. You're the one that told me.

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Like that's the thing. It's like, remember last week's to Sophia.

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She did that to him already one. So I'm with

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you that I don't think she knows about the mom

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but I would not put it past her. To still

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secretly know and she could just be like three d

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chest forty chest Oswald right now because he's just so like, yeah,

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let's dance like he's smart. But Oswald also can kind

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of get a little overconfident at times, and I'm worried

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that could be the case. You know, so Taylor's the

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mum making el season or just the show.

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Speaker 3: I think you guys are right. She's gonna kick the

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bucket and it's gonna be someone, probably Sophia, that's involved

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in killing her. And I think that's what's really gonna

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help Oswald ascend to being in more of a position

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of power, because once that happens, he's gonna be like, Okay,

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fuck it, he's gonna get a killing spree.

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Speaker 1: He's killing spree. I don't know she's gonna go killing spree,

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but I killed.

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Speaker 3: The three of the higher ups of the enemy crime families.

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Speaker 1: Just gets in a car just mowing down Gotham citizens

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and everything like that. But yeah, I guarantee what's gonna

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happen is in a few episodes pen whenever one day,

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Oz is gonna go home and his mom's gonna be

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hanging from the roof. I promise you that that's the

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image we're gonna get. I think she's gonna bustle the hanging,

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which I found curious that they I don't think I

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misheard that they said she only hung women. Was that correct?

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That's what I say. Okay, I could be wrong, but

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I swear they just said she only hung woman, which

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is like interesting, But yeah, yeah, okay, so maybe I'm

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hearing stuff.

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Speaker 3: So I've got a question, primarily futurevis Kirkland feel free

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to answer as well. So, how do you feel because

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we got we got crime statistics here of how crime

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has risen by like over forty percent, and how it's

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just forty two, absolutely forty two, the city absolutely fucked.

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How do you feel about like, because we all love

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this as Batman, but how do we feel about him

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just just leaving and not being around and just letting

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the city just fall to shit?

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Speaker 1: Like this depends what you define leaving though, Like if

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we get to The Batman two and he's just in

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blood Haven banging Selenea Kyle, then it's like, yeah, that's

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kind of shitty. I think it's not on. I don't

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think it's an accident that they said's up four two

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percent and they also in one of those headlines that

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he's missing, right, so either he's working on like they

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could just say, okay, after the Batman movie, he was

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just really fucked up and he's injured, right, They could

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go with that because they are making this a more

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realistic Batman, so they just say, hey, he's on the man,

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he's a concussion, broken ribs, and he's just sitting there

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as Gotham goes a shit or what I imagine, we're not

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gonna get back out there. What I imagine is I feel

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like he is dealing with one of the threats or

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the threat for the Batman two, which would be okay,

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it's a criminal threat, but it's more it's a higher echelon.

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Like I don't think it's this, but the Court of Owls, right,

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that's a secret organization said something that like Gotham News

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wouldn't know, like oh, and the Baton's fighting you know,

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uh god, well I can't remember the main bad guy's

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name in Court of Owls shit, but anyways, like, oh yeah,

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he's fighting the head of the court ouse. Like no,

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I think it'll be something like that where he's he's

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looking into something that's even worse than like the forty two,

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because like, okay, then they sure Batman could drop down

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and just like stop these people. But I think there

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is one he wants it all to stick. But too,

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I think there's just a uh something bigger out there,

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a bigger fish to fry.

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Speaker 2: Always a bigger fish talent, by the.

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Speaker 1: Way, is the main criminal or one of the there's

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multiple talents when there's like the talent that Bruce fights

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a lot and stuff and has some ties to him.

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Speaker 3: So what do you what do you think? Kirkland?

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Speaker 2: I agree with the bigger fish sentiment. I feel like

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it's also just like an easy way to explain kind

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of what's been going on. Well, like, yeah, I can't

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stop the corner store robberies because I'm looking into Talent

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and Hook and all these other beak whatever the members

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of of Quartabells are. Cause yeah, I imagine he's not

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just banging Selena Kyle in whatever it's called on the Batmobile.

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Speaker 1: Do what you want with your life.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it would be interesting though if there is

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like a like a good story reason for why maybe

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you had to step away, like you just got really

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fucked up. They uh you took that adrenaline stuff, and

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it's just never that's true. He's just like angry all

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the time.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, Yeah, because we don't know that last scene

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when he says goodbye to Selina, we don't know when

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that was. But yeah, I think I think they're making

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that on purpose. I don't think it's a mistake. Like

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I said, the crime going up and for ten and

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plus even then, they just said, like there's multiple stuff right,

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like that river wall has made more crime easy to happen.

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They say they're letting people out of Arkham. They didn't

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say exactly why, Like we knew that it was Sofia, but

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it wasn't just her. Now it sounds like multiple people.

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I don't know if it's an overcrowding. I don't know

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what the deal is. So it's also the sense of

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like if he is a realistic Batman, like crimes gonna

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rise no matter what, Like he can't stop this all

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like the flood, living more criminals and people getting out

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of Arkham. He can't be everywhere all at once, which

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I guess that's where you can maybe like introduce a Robin,

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But I don't really want to Robin in this this

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universe per se. But yeah, so we'll see. So what

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do you guys think about what do you think it's

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the trajectory because it's another interesting update. I thought we

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got what's the trajectory of Penguin's lady friend there in

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this series, she was worried about her girls getting hurt.

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She figured out that he's using her as a cover

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to for the Alberto Falcon murder. So she was really

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laying on of like hey, like she didn't even say it,

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be careful, just like I don't really like you're doing this.

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You're back in the right horse. But I just feel

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like both her and the mother were like not good signs.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I very much thought that she was

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gonna be like the easy kill until we had that

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scene with the mom and then I'm like, are we

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gonna get both? We definitely could, But just something in

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me makes me think that she will be one that

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kind of moves on, because she seems like a small

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enough character that like she could also bounce up again,

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like like somewhere else, be in the new Club Penguin Follia,

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to like she'll be the second part there, No, I

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don't know, just just to like have a familiar face

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to pull from the show. If let's say Penguin is

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in Batman two, like just to have that kind of tie.

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I could see her kind of being that character. And

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I don't know, she doesn't seem like she is important

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to Oz, but she doesn't seem obviously as close as

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what the mother dynamic would be. But no, still important.

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So definitely, I think there'll be a decision that I

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think Oz has to make that maybe she lives or

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dies from it, And just a little hunch makes me

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think she'll survive.

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Speaker 1: Now, I will ask you this because we didn't talk

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about this last week, and we talked about an after nine,

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but I don't know if you guys caught the character

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or not because Mike brought up. So I'll bring up

470
00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,920
now because we're talking about like the future and every

471
00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:03,839
thing like that. This character's name is Eve Carlow and

472
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,960
so she is technically the sister of Clay Face. And

473
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,759
that's where I'm wondering where, Like you said, I do

474
00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:13,839
think she's someone that could pop up. And my trajectory,

475
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,880
I thought, like, if there's a situation where she gets

476
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,400
killed by the Penguin or the mob, I g's like,

477
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,839
it's it's so tough because a lot of these characters

478
00:22:23,839 --> 00:22:25,480
we pitched because I think, like, okay, do you have

479
00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:28,799
a situation where his sister dies? Because shoot, they also

480
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,000
I can't remember if it's at a cast in grid

481
00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:33,839
or someone. They like specify that she uses like different

482
00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:35,720
outfits for some of her clients, so kind of like

483
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,880
how brothers like a master skis and shit, So they

484
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,160
have that fetish going on. But like, is this a

485
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,279
scenario where he does she dies and he like blames

486
00:22:43,319 --> 00:22:45,079
Penguin in the mob And that's how you kind of

487
00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:48,440
interject clay face because Batman's trying to take them on

488
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,559
the Mob. And now you got this you know, serial

489
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,759
killer like like pretending to be this guy, pretending to

490
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,119
that guy. But that's like do you get too similar

491
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,119
to the Riddler? And I think that's the problem of

492
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,839
like with the Riddler, they already did the like in

493
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,400
Gread with the Mob. So I don't know how, but

494
00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:06,119
I it's hard for me to really believe that Matt

495
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,400
Reeves just put in that last name for like no reason.

496
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,559
In my opinion, I just it's hard for me because

497
00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:15,039
you know what people are gonna do with that name.

498
00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:17,799
You could easily just made her a prostitute, the different names,

499
00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:19,960
so giving her the name of that, that's where we

500
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,880
made me think that just her even talking about Watch

501
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,519
Out for Girls, I just felt like, Okay, I think

502
00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:29,039
that was the only illusion of like, k could this

503
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,480
be leading to something towards in the sequel. I really

504
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,359
don't know, because maybe she's just dead next week and

505
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,680
it's just just a fun Easter egg. But I don't know.

506
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 3: I don't think you're far off with the concept of

507
00:23:38,759 --> 00:23:40,720
them having the Mob and then clay Face and all

508
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,920
that kind of stuff the Penguin and I say that

509
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,720
all because like, if you look at those older Batman movies,

510
00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:48,039
they didn't really have anything mob related. It was just

511
00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:49,799
like a main bad guy with a bunch of henchmen

512
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,759
if you look Aloy Well, I was gonna say, Nolan

513
00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:55,839
is where we really got the Mob heavily involved in

514
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,119
at least I'd say at least the first and second movies,

515
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,240
the Mob wasn't really there and the third one that.

516
00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:05,039
Speaker 1: Takes over and that's right.

517
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,839
Speaker 3: So that's that's where I think, Okay, we really get

518
00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:11,480
that world kind of highlighted. And so with Reeves's Batman,

519
00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:13,960
it focuses a little bit on that well a lot,

520
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,279
a lot, a lot in the first one and then

521
00:24:16,319 --> 00:24:18,279
again here with this show. So I feel like that's

522
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:21,359
definitely his focus point is having the mob attached to

523
00:24:21,519 --> 00:24:25,319
all of these different, uh, these different like villains that

524
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,640
Batman's gonna be dealing with. We got a lot more

525
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,000
look at different family members here too, right obviously we

526
00:24:30,039 --> 00:24:36,920
saw like falcones, I always forget falcone falcone falcones, uh,

527
00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:40,160
like Sophia's uncle, and then we got to look at

528
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,039
her cousin and then a very tense scene where like

529
00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:45,559
with the niece or she like pulls the east away

530
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,720
from Sophia. It's just very, very fucking awkward.

531
00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: So it's such a fucking weird scene. I I understand,

532
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:56,720
Like it seemed like the lady was so like I

533
00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:59,359
don't know, like out of out of the situation, what

534
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,160
was going on, And then like her daughter came and

535
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,119
she's like, oh, you're a monster. It's like we just

536
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,400
fucking invited to go on like a girl's trip. But

537
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,640
like it is I know, but like it was just

538
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,480
such a strange, like why even have that interaction?

539
00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

540
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,839
Speaker 2: It was just it was a weird. It was a

541
00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:16,039
weird jump. It wasn't what I was expecting to happen,

542
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,920
but I don't know, it showed showed that she's she

543
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,240
is kind of scary, and I mean it's kind of

544
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,839
adding on to what you already brought up, Travis, of

545
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,960
just how the family's perception of her, Like when everyone

546
00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:28,799
was there and she's just scorfing down the fucking noodles

547
00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:29,960
or neck.

548
00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was something there. Yeah, yeah, I

549
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,000
get what they're going for as far as like she

550
00:25:36,079 --> 00:25:37,559
never meant that trip, and I think it was just

551
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:40,240
a show. Okay, she's trying to like make good with

552
00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:43,519
Sophia to be like, yeah, like I'm always be your friend,

553
00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:45,079
and then yeah, the daughter's there and like what do

554
00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:47,359
you think she's gonna hang your daughter? And foreverybody like,

555
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,799
I don't think it's gonna with that, bro, you also

556
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,200
earn a mob family. But yeah, I think I guess

557
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,400
it just was I think the whole episode was trying

558
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,720
to push her to do that last scene of with

559
00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:01,079
Oz to kind of say like screwed them, we gotta

560
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,319
take him down, right. I think that's what it was

561
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,559
trying to do. So it's showing, Okay, the uncle cast

562
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:08,519
her out, which I was wondering, like, I guess maybe

563
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:09,920
because she went to Arkham she was taking out, But

564
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,440
I would have thought like after all Berto died, she

565
00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:15,359
would have been next in line, right, Like I don't

566
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,440
think it's like a well dragon.

567
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 3: That's that's just hm, the uncle, he's the next in line.

568
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: Right, But why why shouldn't have.

569
00:26:24,839 --> 00:26:27,319
Speaker 3: Guess his brother his brother was Well, I guess because

570
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,359
you said the son. They set up the show with.

571
00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:32,759
Speaker 1: The son being in charge, right, and it's like he was.

572
00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:35,039
Speaker 3: Just high and thinking he was in charge, but he wasn't.

573
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: No, he was in charge. I don't. I don't think

574
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,519
he just I think that's a whole on the show,

575
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,160
Like I don't, Like I said, it must have been

576
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,440
something like because she's an Arkham maybe that he didn't

577
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,839
have that change.

578
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: Like the family didn't want her to be in charge though,

579
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,880
right because she is such a wild wild card.

580
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what I'm just trying to wonder. Do

581
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:51,480
you think her dad had that or do you think

582
00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:56,079
that's a mob family decision because like you couldn't while

583
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,680
he was alive technically here to die, you couldn't give

584
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,079
to Sophia because she well he's still kind of could

585
00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:04,000
because Maroney's in jail and he's still run his family operation.

586
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: So I this episode made it feel like there is

587
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,039
like there was already tension amongst the family, but now

588
00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:13,960
it's just getting ramped up, and I feel like Sophia

589
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:17,599
is just gonna start fucking killing everybody. I really like

590
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,680
the scene, like the after math of when Oz kills

591
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,279
Buddy and then everyone's just like Oz leaves the knife

592
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:28,799
and Buddy's coat. It's just such a fucking little little rat.

593
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:30,880
I love it. But yeah, like like even before that,

594
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,680
he's like accusing I forget his name, Johnny or something,

595
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,960
whoever has the Yeah, that guy, he's just like, you

596
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:40,480
fucking did this, Like he's just like blaming him like

597
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:42,839
right away. And then yeah, like he's already just like

598
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,839
starting to point fingers. And then I love the moment

599
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,839
when uh, yeah, what was her uncle shot Buddy? And

600
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,640
then now like she like sees that guy as an

601
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:55,400
enemy because it's like who knows if he was gonna

602
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,720
say something more than that, like right from her perspective,

603
00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:00,720
Like it was just a really high chaos scene, and

604
00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:03,279
I loved what happened afterwards. And then of course you

605
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:06,359
have the dialogue amongst oz in her but yeah, no,

606
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,279
I'm fearful for the falcones.

607
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: She just also want to be the one to kill him.

608
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,400
I feel too, like the one they killed her brother.

609
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,680
I think she wanted to do that honor of Yeah, yeah,

610
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,759
I would assume, like obviously she has lots of blood

611
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:22,799
relatives there, but her direct family. When they showed us

612
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:25,079
that gravestone and it was only for four slots, so

613
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,119
they don't Well, she does technically have a sister, which

614
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,160
I do have something to share with someone we're talking about,

615
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,400
you know, the the what is it the symmetry, which

616
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,240
you know, I got the wrong window hanging off to

617
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,200
pull it up. But she does have a sister out there.

618
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,640
But in her direct family, brother's gone, Mom died a

619
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,720
long time ago, and now dad's dead. So it's like, okay,

620
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,119
she's the family, but all this families like people she

621
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,039
can't really trust. I don't think or don't want her there.

622
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,000
She's kind of like the stepchild. But if you see

623
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000
that at the end of the Batman it was Selina

624
00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:56,519
looking at her mother's grave, and then Sophia at the

625
00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:00,240
end of this episode being at the graveside it's just

626
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:01,880
always carmeon. But I have her mom too, so some

627
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,839
symmetry between her and Selena.

628
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:07,519
Speaker 3: Just weird thing. But Selena, his shoulders line up perfectly

629
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,359
with the total tombstone. It's like her body.

630
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: So she's gonna look like in the bath on the

631
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,559
gravesite now. But uh, but I don't think she's gonna

632
00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:19,400
get a chance to meet her sister. I think Oz

633
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,559
is gonna take her. I think she's gonna get I

634
00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:27,559
think Selena. Yeah, obviously Selena is gonna die in this

635
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,440
show one off, but no, yeah, I think the hangman

636
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:34,480
is probably gonna get it. I don't think she'll make

637
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:39,839
it out alive. So anyone think otherwise.

638
00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:43,039
Speaker 3: And I agree, I think you're right.

639
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:45,319
Speaker 2: But it's more interesting if that's not the case, So

640
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:47,440
I'm gonna I'll go the other side.

641
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: I agree. I hope how we feel about Vic well,

642
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,839
like his status going. He had a bad week. He

643
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,640
didn't deal over the jewels, think made him lay down

644
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,079
in a grave threading them, and then you.

645
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,279
Speaker 2: Know death threats those guy's getting.

646
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I meant, Like a lot of things,

647
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,119
and like, I don't know, I'm gonna love every week

648
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,480
checking in on Victacy, like his death percentage was turn

649
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:15,000
percentage because I feel like I don't know he Penguin.

650
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:17,519
They did a great job. We talked about he got

651
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:19,880
this job. He didn't know how to drive, so he

652
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,039
learned from Friday to Monday how to drive and they

653
00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:25,119
drove this crime boss round. Carmine fe foun out he's

654
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:26,960
talking on the FEDS. So Carmin had him dead, but

655
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:29,480
he saw something in Penguin, so again kind of what

656
00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:32,119
we thought episode one last week, but more allusions to

657
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,480
Penguin just really seeing himself in Vic like giving him

658
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:39,480
a shot. But at the same time, I think he's

659
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,240
gonna I think he's gonna turn and die. Like I

660
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:45,039
just got a bad feeling he's gonna he's gonna turn

661
00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:47,680
on Penguin. I don't know why, but I just something

662
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,079
my bones right now, you know.

663
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: Well, like we like, how are they gonna carry this

664
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:54,079
character beyond the show? Right, Like it's another thing I'm

665
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:57,119
thinking of, Like it's not like he's gonna be Batman

666
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,160
two's main Villain's.

667
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,079
Speaker 1: Penguin lack that Batman beats on it.

668
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: But there's not much room I don't think for for

669
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:07,160
like a Pattison you know.

670
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,799
Speaker 1: I like the vain villain of this show who has

671
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:14,200
a direct problem with Oswald. Crazy. I like, they keeps

672
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,359
you alive. I like see it, and then this guy

673
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:20,160
there's no room, there's no room for you. Sorry, I

674
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,640
don't know. I new club right, like Penguin's right hand man,

675
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,079
and he could be like that whiny guy Batman always

676
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:27,119
beats up or something.

677
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also just like, I feel like it'll be

678
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,920
really tense if we're with him every single week and

679
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,039
then by the end, like you kind of mentioned, he

680
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:38,720
either turns or Oz kills him, or he dies or something,

681
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:41,160
and then it's just like, I don't know, like to

682
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,480
see that pain from Oz's perspective is going to be

683
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:48,000
satisfying to see, you know, callin FIL's performance. So I'm

684
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:49,839
kind of just putting all the chips on that happening.

685
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:51,960
I would be surprised if that's not the case.

686
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, we saw him get a text, now I get

687
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,880
before I get that, Like, I do feel sorry for him.

688
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,680
He was laying out in the grave just having a

689
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:03,119
rough getting caught putting jewels unsuccessfully.

690
00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: Jewels and if you know how much work that is

691
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,799
for me in a day, he got.

692
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:09,759
Speaker 3: A text though, and I'm assuming it was his buddies

693
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:11,759
saying like where have you been or something like that.

694
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,519
Did you see that, Maze.

695
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: I can't assume it's his buddies. It could be family.

696
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,799
Speaker 3: We don't know who it is. Yeah, it was right

697
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:20,799
before the cam girls were like talking and chatting them up,

698
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:26,680
and she's like very interested in his relationship with Oz.

699
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:28,759
They really emphasized this scene.

700
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: A little bit. I that that text that he got

701
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:34,319
I was I feel like I had some holdbacks last

702
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:36,599
week because I'm like, how does nobody fucking know or

703
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,240
care where this guy went? Like he clearly like had

704
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:40,920
a group that he was with and now they just

705
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,880
they just don't talk. So it was nice to get

706
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,279
this scene. I don't know who it was on the

707
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:47,400
other end, but at least someone is asking for him

708
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,480
because I imagine, you know, Oz kind of has them

709
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,240
on call twenty four seven, Like he doesn't have a

710
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:54,839
lot of free time. So even if like kind of

711
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:58,279
you know Oz and his conversation from last week alluded

712
00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:00,359
to that like maybe his family died and the bloods

713
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,480
or something like like maybe he is alone, but that

714
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:05,119
wasn't confirmed, So I did like that he has something

715
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,440
someone out there kind of looking for him, and I

716
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,119
imagine that'll complicate.

717
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: Why are you?

718
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:12,039
Speaker 2: I need you?

719
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,039
Speaker 1: It's funny because people because like, that's how he meets

720
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,240
the second Robin. Is the second Robins trying to still

721
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:22,799
tie off the Batmobile. So the fact that shoots at

722
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,240
that's how he met the second line.

723
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: That's an interesting parallel, though. Could you see them making

724
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:37,759
him like maybe he does get saved and he Bruce

725
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,480
like this is like Batman three, you get vic as

726
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:48,759
the Robin, so Vick is around for another show, two movies.

727
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: His bare hands.

728
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:52,279
Speaker 1: I don't you can get something awest because I always

729
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:54,880
wonder now when Matt Reeves is like, hey, you know this,

730
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:58,000
we had an idea for Penguin and Batman two and

731
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:00,680
then they want to show so obviously it's flushed out,

732
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,480
but whatever, we're not whatever, but majority of stuff or

733
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:06,119
at some point some storyline they're gonna do with Penguin

734
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,440
was this story? So I always go like, hey, what

735
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:10,320
are And they've said he's coming back for the Batman too,

736
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,960
so I'm like, hey, if you're doing that story in

737
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,559
the show, what is he Because they also don't want

738
00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:15,920
Penguin just to I guess he could just be like

739
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,119
a goom that's always around. So that's why I do

740
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:22,400
think like the whole Eve Carlow, you know, Clay Facing,

741
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,320
that could get Penguin involved, right because Penguin like led

742
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,840
to the death of his sister. That's a direct story

743
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,800
tie right in. But like you know, Taylor's meming like

744
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:35,800
his forder proge becoming a rob and is like, that's

745
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,440
a direct reason also get him in. I don't think

746
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,599
that's gonna happen, but like I would be a pose.

747
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,360
I like the actor enough. I don't know in this

748
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,719
world if I feel like when we get to James

749
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,360
gun Batman, that's where you can't have like the what

750
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,519
was Hit Girl? You can have like the Damien Wayne

751
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:52,599
who's like ten years old kicking ass everything. But like

752
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,800
if you have like passing team of like a ten

753
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,239
year old kid in this GoF is like, I don't

754
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,480
know if I really buy it per Se and Liast

755
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,719
this guy's like a young kids, so I are like

756
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,239
a younger man, So I guess I could buy it,

757
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,440
but I I'll still say I don't think so. But

758
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,639
it's not like out of the realm of possibility, because

759
00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:11,360
again that it has a similar origin, and we'll get

760
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,800
the same fucking shit's Dark Knight Rise. It's like Ping

761
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,320
will find his real idea, Like what's your name? You

762
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,079
told me your name was Vic. Oh, that's my male

763
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:22,840
name is actually as Jason Jason to that's a big reveal.

764
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:25,079
Speaker 3: You know, are there any robins that have a stutter?

765
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,599
Speaker 1: No? But Batman would beat that out of them that

766
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:31,360
they did, you know, just like yeah, a bunch of

767
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:38,480
enough times, like a proper So would you would you

768
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:40,800
want that to tear him to become a future like

769
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,800
if that's how it ended of like.

770
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: You said it, Like, I'm actually pretty interested in that.

771
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,039
I think that'd be a really cool turnaround. And I

772
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:50,119
like the idea like yeah, this form of protege of

773
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:54,719
the penguin, Uh, his heart's not in it, That's how

774
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,320
I feel. And so for him to eventually becoming like

775
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:01,639
maybe he's doing something for Oz and then Batman like

776
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,239
catches him and it's just unforeseen turn of events. Alfred

777
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,599
convinces him, like Alfred just opens with the bat Cave

778
00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:10,440
and then let's fix Okay.

779
00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:12,679
Speaker 1: Well let's not do what we did in Batman Forever,

780
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,000
all right? Just or no, I guess he didn't do that.

781
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:19,159
He did that in Batman any Name with Vicky vale

782
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:19,719
Alford just.

783
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,639
Speaker 3: Let him out, that's right.

784
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,159
Speaker 1: Remember, No, Chris o'donald is pretending to laundry in Batman Forever,

785
00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:26,480
and he was doing he like fucking flipped his way

786
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:33,000
into the into the U. So maybe not that, even

787
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,920
though I would love to see Robert Passons Bruce Wayne

788
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,760
like act that, like he's just always so haunted and

789
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,159
just seeing like what are you doing here? Like he

790
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,400
just like be traumatic. But again, I don't necessarily want

791
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,320
a Robin in these movies. We only got three, and

792
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:51,840
it's not a waste of time. If Matt Reeves feels,

793
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,679
hey I got a great Robin story, I want to

794
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,880
tell it, then I'm all ears. But for me, if

795
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,000
it's like, okay, we're only doing three of these and

796
00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:00,800
they're already saying like we have a come firm Robin

797
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,159
is in Brave in the Bold, like the movies about

798
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:05,760
Batman and his son being Robin, So it's like I

799
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,400
don't really want that here, Like we got two more

800
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,880
movies of Patison and rather just let's just do Pattison.

801
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,320
And if it's if he has a sidekick. Then it's

802
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,159
Selena not to like bring her down, but like that's

803
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:16,760
what I'd want, like have him team up with her

804
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,400
or not not, you know, maybe he could maybe they

805
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,599
could say this character is like an informant. It could

806
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:25,000
be like the way Nolan did a Robin, where like

807
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:27,360
Joscore Levitt was his Robin, but he was just like

808
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,280
a cop, like his sidekick. So I could see that

809
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,400
maybe Batman uses him as like a informant or something.

810
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:37,400
But no, I think he's not long for this world either,

811
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:38,920
you know. I feel like the only thing I could

812
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:44,559
make it past are Penguin obviously. And then I think

813
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:47,800
Clancy Brown just because they did set up Remember that

814
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,639
they set up Maroney was one of the possible people

815
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:53,760
that had Bruce's parents killed. And I think Clancy Brown

816
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,239
is just not that other people aren't strong enough actors.

817
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,280
But he's still like has like Clason Brown's a weird

818
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,559
character because I feel like tons of people still don't

819
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:04,000
know him. He's one of those oh that guy actors.

820
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:06,119
That's the thing, right, Like if I asked my mom

821
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,519
or amily who's Clancy Brown, they probably won't know. But

822
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:11,039
if he's sowm my photo, right, away and like he

823
00:38:11,159 --> 00:38:13,360
was just in John Wicks so and I would like

824
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,360
them to put those strings together of Bruce, like if

825
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,840
Maroney gets out and he but I could also see

826
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,840
Maroney getting out in like the finale and then Penguin

827
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,239
is killing him because like, I feel like they've set

828
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,239
it up that Penguin's gonna be the guy, like the

829
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,440
mob guy, so he kind of has to take out everybody, right,

830
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,960
But yeah, what do you guys feel we talk about

831
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,039
bit we saw but a Ferni Ferroni fuck Flony, No,

832
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:46,239
not Moroni, thank you. Imagine that if he was and

833
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,840
he was my brother and Dave Filony hat on.

834
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: It's like.

835
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: But anyways, set Moroney, we met his family, But yeah,

836
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,519
what do you guys feel about his status right now?

837
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:59,519
Because Penguin he's working with them, but they also asked

838
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:01,960
me to get that out Penguin. I'm killing that guy.

839
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:04,880
So Penguin is like he's and we'll talk about the

840
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,079
end of this episode after, but he's still two times

841
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:08,639
in both of them. But yeah, do you guys think

842
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:10,880
Morony could make it or do you think he's also

843
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,360
going to be a casualty in this show.

844
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm kind of split on him. I feel like, because

845
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,159
he is in prison, it seems like he's safe, but

846
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,519
that also might be a good person to kill off

847
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:25,679
if like Sophia gets to him, it's like, holy fuck,

848
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,480
we thought he was safe, but like she got to

849
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,800
him in the prison cell. You know, have him hanging

850
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,159
in a cell like that's like a pretty easy image

851
00:39:33,159 --> 00:39:35,960
to have on there. But I don't know, because you

852
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:38,320
later got a lot of good reasons to keep him

853
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:44,280
just moving forward for Batman two. So I'm I'm pretty yeah,

854
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,760
I'm pretty dead even on that, I feel like it

855
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,039
could really go either way. I would want him to

856
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:52,079
stay in because I'm just I'm loving Clancy Brown on school.

857
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,719
He's fantastic and yeah, no, I liked how last week

858
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,039
Oz was like so confident of like saying that the

859
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:03,400
Maroney's will take the they'll take the hit for just

860
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,559
like the clout and like all all these reasons. And

861
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:09,239
then we get here and like Clancy Brown was thtartning

862
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,960
to like stab and like you think, we'll just take

863
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,000
it for this reason, and they ended up doing it

864
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:16,079
just because he's able to kind of spin it like

865
00:40:16,119 --> 00:40:18,000
a good sales pitch on why they should do it

866
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:19,719
and then they got a deal out of it. So

867
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:23,159
I just like those those grimy deals that are going on,

868
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,400
and especially we've seeing oz orchestrate them, is lots of

869
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,679
fun and I like that it wasn't just it didn't

870
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,159
just go as plan right, like, you know, just waste

871
00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:34,400
everyone in the first vehicle, I'm not gonna be in there,

872
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,840
and then fuck he gets thrown in the first vehicle.

873
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,639
And just the way that he like he played out

874
00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:41,360
that sequence too, was was fantastic. When he gets the

875
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,000
guy says the joke and then he says a different

876
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:46,079
joke and just fucking off them all, Like he's just

877
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,039
he's literally just rolling with the punches in these scenes

878
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:51,360
and it's like life or death situations. So it's just

879
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,920
really yeah, it really high stakes there. But uh yeah,

880
00:40:56,159 --> 00:40:58,199
I kind of added a little bit too much extra

881
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,840
to your question there. But can reel it.

882
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: Back about Clancy Brown, you know, yeah, Venison, Yeah, coach

883
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:11,840
our dex reviews Kurt one of the best reviewed characters.

884
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:14,719
They talked about man like, that's what I want about.

885
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,559
I want to get a sniper in the Batman. He

886
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:18,719
needs to go toe to toe Patterson.

887
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 3: You know, like gear that white camel you get snow

888
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,239
in the Batman like, I, oh.

889
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:28,519
Speaker 1: Well, it's coming. There was a promo today of like

890
00:41:28,559 --> 00:41:30,440
a future episode of Penguin and there was snow and

891
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:34,480
goth and so it's coming and yeah, imagine that, mom coach.

892
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,559
They go like, imagine that. It's like wedding crashers. Like

893
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:41,719
they go on like a hunting scene him and Bruce

894
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,559
like and man like, oh, let's you want to talk

895
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,039
to your Familylet's go for a let's go for a

896
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:47,639
little stroll. And and he has like he's the full

897
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,840
Kurt gear, like exact ripoff just Kurt. Yeah, but same set.

898
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:55,119
Speaker 2: We like go to the same fucking cabin that he had.

899
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: And oh that's what confirmed Dexter's in this. He's he's

900
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,639
one of the crime rates that's.

901
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: Under Twine Universe. Isn't Exter a comic book or is that.

902
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: Now they made it? They made it after and stuff

903
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,760
like that. But uh, yeah, he was always my fan cast.

904
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,000
I want him as Riddler, not what we call Paul Dana.

905
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:15,800
I don't see. Well, actually, you know, Michael C. Hall

906
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,360
could have done that. He can play a weirdo, but

907
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,360
like I always wouldn't.

908
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,599
Speaker 2: Clancy Brown Thriller I'm like, I'm for it. Give him

909
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:25,039
like a Jim Carrey, you.

910
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:30,639
Speaker 1: Know, scene of him in uh the Brown do that?

911
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,880
But no, no, no, he kind of does that a

912
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,559
little bit of his curt He only freaks out on

913
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,440
Dexter's a few times. But no, Michael C. Hall when

914
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,079
there's rumors Riddler was going to be in the Nole movies, like, oh,

915
00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:45,679
that's the guy right there, like Michael C. Hall and

916
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,960
Nol together. But what we'll get Taylor's Clancy Brown thoughts

917
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,639
after this next outbreak and we're back, So how are

918
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:56,880
you feeling right now? I'm Ronnie Taylor's he getting out?

919
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,039
Is he dying? Does he get to Batman too? Because

920
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:00,800
he does have some ties up, Bruce.

921
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 3: You know, he's getting out, He's getting out.

922
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: I think the big screen.

923
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'll make it to the big screen.

924
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:15,480
I do. I think God had a point ship that

925
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,039
has escaped my mind.

926
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,639
Speaker 1: I call Clancy Brown playing the Riddler that.

927
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: None of that.

928
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: Arctic.

929
00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 4: I just think, yeah, with Clancy Brown playing this this character,

930
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:34,239
I think that they're they're just getting started and there's

931
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,639
a lot of just chaos going on in the Falcon

932
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:41,280
area of things, and so it just seems like they're

933
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,000
family is just getting one step ahead every step of

934
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:45,760
the way, especially with Oz helping them out.

935
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just I just think that he's going

936
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,039
to He's gonna come out on top. And I I

937
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:59,519
have a butcher pronouncing her name show ray Ah dash Lou.

938
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,480
She was the main lead in the Maroney family here

939
00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:04,599
who almost got Oz like Stad.

940
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: She's a great actress.

941
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,639
Speaker 3: She is a great actress, and she voiced one of

942
00:44:08,639 --> 00:44:12,719
the main assassin's sasque mirage Like her voice is fucking fantastic.

943
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,079
I think it's super badass. And so she was actually

944
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:18,239
in Rent Ryan Renfield in the Cage too.

945
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: Actually, I think yeahs a bunch. I first saw her

946
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,800
and raised anatime. She's Taylor. Didn't you recently watch X

947
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,440
Men three or did you skip that one?

948
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 3: I skipped that one.

949
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,639
Speaker 1: Okay, she's been there. Yeah, she's a scientist working on

950
00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:31,639
the cure. Yeah, she just pops up everywhere.

951
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,679
Speaker 3: So yeah, really cool that she's in here, and she's

952
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,039
part of the Maroney family as well. Uh yeah, So

953
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:40,559
I I think that they're gonna they're gonna stick around.

954
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:42,559
And I think that if you said that Maroni is

955
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:46,159
responsible for killing Bruce's parents, and I don't say that.

956
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,559
Speaker 1: I said that's what they insinuated in the Batman as

957
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:50,199
an option to insinuated.

958
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 3: Okay, then I think that you to me, it makes

959
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,679
sense that they would follow up with that and tie

960
00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:57,039
it in a little bit more into the story, at

961
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:59,159
least because Bruce thinks.

962
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: That, well, no, again, I don't know what he doesn't

963
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,480
know what to think. You need to watch Batman. Falcone

964
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:10,599
insinuated that Maroney had his parents killed. Okay, so it

965
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:12,840
is from Falcone. But even Alfred says, like, I don't

966
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,079
know if Falcone did it killed your parents. I don't

967
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:17,559
know if Maroney did. I don't know if it was

968
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:19,960
just random mugger on the street. So like Bruce really

969
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,880
doesn't know. Still, but there that was an option because

970
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,360
the Maronis did not like what the Waynes were trying

971
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,480
to do to Gotham as well. And I can't remember

972
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,760
the exact wording, but that's one of the reasons why

973
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,760
they go, oh, it was Maroney. I think he was

974
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,840
the one that exposed Martha for being Arkham. Remember she

975
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,480
was an Arkham and the Batman and that got out

976
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,440
there in the public. I think Maroney had a hand

977
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,239
in that. So I think that he went to Falcone

978
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,639
and he wanted it stopped, and that's where all the

979
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:48,320
you know, X, Y and Z and all this stuff.

980
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:53,360
So that's where there's either way, there's his if he

981
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:55,400
killed the Waynes, if he or hit whatever, there's there's

982
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,920
history between the Waynes and the Moroney's, the same way

983
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,800
there's the Falcones. Now. I feel like that was settled

984
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,800
last one with Carmine because Batman literally saw him die

985
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:07,239
and he didn't have to worry about Alberto. I don't

986
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,320
think you have to worry about Sophia. And then the

987
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,079
only Falcone left technically will be Selena that of course

988
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:16,400
he'll be all up in. So like I feel like

989
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,800
the Cone film family kind of gets closed with this show,

990
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,119
and that's where you can kind of bring in the

991
00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:24,519
Maroney family, which is kind of funny because like people

992
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:27,119
that always compare these to the Nolan films, that's exactly

993
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:29,199
what the Nolan films did. It was the Falcones first

994
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,639
and then Marony, so it is kind of, you know,

995
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,840
going that same path. So that's why I could I

996
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,280
could see Clancy Brown also just dying and just Penguin

997
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,239
being the soul, not that there won't be other mobsters,

998
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,000
but he is the kingpin now, So even though I

999
00:46:43,039 --> 00:46:44,519
love Clancy Brown.

1000
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 3: Maybe he'd keep him locked up, right, because then not,

1001
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,280
I mean he could still call shots, I guess if

1002
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,440
he's locked up, But yeah, he could keep him because

1003
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,639
he's Is he a black Gate or Arkham? Because I feel.

1004
00:46:54,440 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: Like one, yeah, arguable it is, but like you get

1005
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,639
out easier, you know.

1006
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:06,079
Speaker 3: I guess there's this case. Yeah they're not letting Clancy

1007
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:08,119
Brown out, but they're let out of our coman.

1008
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're letting this lady who's like having midday flashes

1009
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:14,039
to his stuff. Which that was really good scene. I

1010
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:16,159
loved that because first we'll talk about her doctor in

1011
00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:19,519
a second, but she had a hallucination while she was

1012
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:22,079
at their therapist. And then later on the show at

1013
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:24,920
the funeral, they were playing a video of her and

1014
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,599
her brother when they're younger. But I like, at first

1015
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:28,360
they didn't play it off. You didn't know it was

1016
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,159
a video, so they thought she was just fucking hearing

1017
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,079
voices again and hearing her mom call her, and she was,

1018
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:35,159
and she went in his video and she's trying to

1019
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:36,840
not get upset. But yeah, we got to the beginnings

1020
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,159
episode where she was looked like she was back in

1021
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,239
Arkham and they're talking about how she could go. But

1022
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,760
you gotta do this, like at first like okay, we're

1023
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,719
getting a full flashback, and then like, oh, well someone's

1024
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,039
here to see you. It's a bird. All of course,

1025
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:51,480
his head gets blown shows with pinky that's gone. Head

1026
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,199
gets blown off right in front of her. She's screaming,

1027
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,559
I guess you know the great Theo Rossi, who I

1028
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:59,000
loved there since Sons of Anachar. He was in Luke

1029
00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:04,199
Cage as well. He has some sort of light led

1030
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,239
thing that goes back and forth and everything like that.

1031
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,480
And I can't remember what his name was, and I

1032
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,679
searched it up and I think it's Julian Rush was

1033
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,199
his name, but it's no one in DC related. But

1034
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,480
because the lights and because he's being creepy, yeah, okay,

1035
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,760
I think it was, Yeah, doctor Julian Rush. I don't

1036
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,519
think this is the case. They're gonna go down. Lots

1037
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:27,119
of people are like, that's Hugo Strange. Apparently that's like

1038
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:30,599
a theory right now, because Hugo Strange is like does

1039
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:32,800
some mind fucking stuff and he's kind of a weird

1040
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,599
guy too, but I really don't because I don't know,

1041
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,280
Like that's again that's almost too Nolan type of reveal

1042
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,599
of like, oh, well, my name is doctor Julian Rush,

1043
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:43,079
but I used to be Hugo Strange, Like I don't,

1044
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:45,039
I don't necessarily need that.

1045
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 2: But is Hugo Strange like in the comics and stuff,

1046
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,559
because my only experience with him is in Arkham City.

1047
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:53,280
Is he normally like that level of like a villain?

1048
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,519
Speaker 1: That's like depends. There's times where so, yeah, there's been

1049
00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:59,760
there's been times where he's just been like a nobody

1050
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,360
in there times where he's like one of the main guys.

1051
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,000
So it just kind of depends on the writer and

1052
00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:07,440
who's doing it working with him. Plus like not that

1053
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,400
I needed exact because like, look at Riddler, he doesn't

1054
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,639
look like the Riddler. But I think Hugo Strange is

1055
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:14,800
an easy enough guy that you can't find a bald

1056
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,960
guy and with a beard, like literally since he's lost

1057
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,519
the weight, Like Dave Batista is the fucking pick. Like

1058
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:22,960
you look at Da Bautista right now, he'd make a

1059
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:26,519
great Hugo Strange. Nothing Aginstele Ross. It's just like, I

1060
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:29,000
don't know if I need like hot Hugo Strange, Like

1061
00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:31,920
that's one where it's I get the Riddler, But Hugo

1062
00:49:32,039 --> 00:49:33,639
just looks like a dude, So I'd like him to

1063
00:49:33,639 --> 00:49:35,119
look like he does in the Calm books. He's never

1064
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:37,800
been in a movie, and yeah, he's fucking great in

1065
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,400
Arkham City. That was he was like a prime villain there.

1066
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,280
So Hugo and Heugh was strange to me. He fits

1067
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,920
like the matt Reeves first, you know, like that's one

1068
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,679
where it's like, oh, that's perfect there.

1069
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: You know.

1070
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: So I was waiting because I thought I was like, man,

1071
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,519
this is gonna be doctor Crane or something like fuck,

1072
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:55,280
I'm I was looking for that name and then it

1073
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,239
said Julian Rush and like, oh, okay, nobody, You're nobody.

1074
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 3: Which did you mention bea d Wong's Hugo Strange? Did

1075
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,360
you mention that one? Why would that's in Gotham? Right?

1076
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: Is that a movie?

1077
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 5: Oh?

1078
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,079
Speaker 2: Right?

1079
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? I thought you meant live action. I didn't realize

1080
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,360
you said the movie.

1081
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,159
Speaker 1: Keep up, keep up. No, I'm joking, but yeah, no,

1082
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,320
in a movie. It's never been there, And like, I

1083
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,239
don't know a handful of people saw Gotham, but yeah,

1084
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,400
beat d Wong was a great hugo strange, he looked

1085
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,440
like him, but yeah, he was done with.

1086
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 2: I've never heard of bea d Wong.

1087
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,039
Speaker 3: You never in a Jurassic World letting the locusts out

1088
00:50:31,079 --> 00:50:31,719
his long hair.

1089
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that guy are you looking at It's

1090
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,840
funny because I watched Jurassic World thought too long ago,

1091
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,360
just randomly I threw it on and I totally forgot

1092
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:44,719
about that.

1093
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the first one. Totally forgot about that character.

1094
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:49,079
And then it made me think of where he is

1095
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,239
by the end of those Yeah.

1096
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: There he is. He was strange so like, but that's

1097
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,960
what I mean that look the glass of the lab,

1098
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,800
the glasses, the beard, like you could have anybody do.

1099
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,639
That's that's Da Bautista.

1100
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:03,159
Speaker 5: Like.

1101
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,199
Speaker 1: Search up Taylor next, go search up de Batista Killer's

1102
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,400
game Red Carpet and see what he looks like right

1103
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,760
now man when he put indeed, just Dix came up

1104
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:14,960
as a search.

1105
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1106
00:51:18,199 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: But look at that picture. That that's fucking you go

1107
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:24,480
strange right there, my friend's like and he'd be great,

1108
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:27,239
you know how you would be like think about like

1109
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,960
a much I don't think have you all seen Blade Runner?

1110
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,719
I know Taylor has Kirkland. You never saw twenty fourty nine, right,

1111
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:33,039
did you?

1112
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,039
Speaker 2: Twenty forty nine.

1113
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: The sequel Blade Runner twenty forty nine?

1114
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 2: Never seen any Blade Runner movie?

1115
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: Okay? Taylor put in that as well, putting Blade Runner

1116
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,760
twenty four nine with Batista's name there. Obviously he is

1117
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,960
like bigger there, but like even that role where he's

1118
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,400
a bit more quieter and at first it's creepy, but

1119
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,920
lots of revealed where like, oh this character actually wasn't creepy.

1120
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,039
Look at those little glasses right there, Like now he's

1121
00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:58,719
like the perfect size. You got those glasses? Yeah, come on,

1122
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:03,599
Matt Reeves, but off, I'm with you. But anyways, back

1123
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:07,840
to Julian Rush weird saying, because he was definitely like, uh,

1124
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:10,760
he's getting a little hard right in that moment. They're

1125
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,280
always holding her right, oh yeah, happening.

1126
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,159
Speaker 3: There is something up against her backside, and.

1127
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: That's why she freaked out. She's like, what are you

1128
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,559
doing here? You know? So we'll see. Do you think

1129
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:22,960
what's gonna happen there? I think what's gonna happen is

1130
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,760
they're gonna get on then she's gonna kill him, that's

1131
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:25,320
my prediction.

1132
00:52:27,519 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 3: Like during.

1133
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: Maybe actually Sophia is the type of person, but no,

1134
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:34,880
I think it'll be after. I think she'll like he'll

1135
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,239
like overstep his boundaries and then she'll just be done

1136
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,679
with him. Or he's like a plant or something like

1137
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,079
maybe the Falcones have specifically paid him to like try

1138
00:52:44,119 --> 00:52:47,679
to push her in a certain direction, and she's gonna

1139
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,039
figure that out and then she's gonna hang on. But

1140
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:52,119
not in not He's not gonna be hung in the

1141
00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:54,960
good way. I'll tell you about that. You know it'd

1142
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,320
be bad. Next snap dead balls.

1143
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:00,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, the building.

1144
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,639
Speaker 1: Now they call me the hung Man. He's just they

1145
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:04,719
just fine.

1146
00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 2: What a way to go?

1147
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 3: Hung Man.

1148
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,599
Speaker 1: Main villain for the Batman too, thought the hanging was dangerous.

1149
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,079
Speaker 2: He lives, He lives, and he's forever changed.

1150
00:53:19,159 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: What villain does he become if he lives? We already

1151
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,440
got we got Joker. What batman villain could he become?

1152
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:32,920
Oh man, that's talent right there, Sadder. You can, mister freeze,

1153
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,480
you cut off the circulation. He's like blue balls. His

1154
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:40,920
whole body like gets cold behind that behind that mister

1155
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,480
Freeze versus Batman versus.

1156
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 2: What really kills the dinosaurs?

1157
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:53,559
Speaker 1: These nuts skirling? What's going on with the Jilian rush?

1158
00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:54,199
Speaker 2: Oh jeez?

1159
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: And did you like the stuff? He's a therapist. He's

1160
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:58,800
a therapist.

1161
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I recognize this cat. I don't know what

1162
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,679
from you mentioned Sons of Anarchy. I feel like I've

1163
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:05,840
seen one episode of that show.

1164
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 1: But he's in a bunch of stuff. He's a good

1165
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,760
character actor. He never saw Luke Cage using that too.

1166
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,559
There's other stuff. He's really good.

1167
00:54:11,639 --> 00:54:15,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I really liked him in the scene. And yeah,

1168
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,039
it's just I don't know, exploring a psycho character. Psyche

1169
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:23,199
is always interesting, so I'm interested in kind of what

1170
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,599
happens moving forward with those characters. But I really love

1171
00:54:26,679 --> 00:54:30,039
the way that scene played out. It just, I don't know,

1172
00:54:30,199 --> 00:54:32,159
just something with like a serial killer and like a

1173
00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:36,000
therapist office just you know, called back to some Hannibal glory.

1174
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:38,840
So I was definitely thinking about those sequences. But no,

1175
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,800
I just love the dream sequence moment when she sees

1176
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,719
her brother, and then just the way that the light

1177
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,639
was going back and forward was very interesting. And yeah,

1178
00:54:48,039 --> 00:54:50,960
I hope much more to say other than it's just fantastic.

1179
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope we actually get a therapy scene because

1180
00:54:53,679 --> 00:54:55,280
he asked her and then she like freaked out. I

1181
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,519
hope there's like a good solid because I got a

1182
00:54:57,519 --> 00:55:00,079
good actor, So I hope there's a good solid and

1183
00:55:00,199 --> 00:55:01,360
fifteen minutes scene if.

1184
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:04,039
Speaker 2: There never seen again, Yeah, that's it.

1185
00:55:04,199 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the Batman too. They're saying him, that's

1186
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:12,159
that's the strange You never saw the Penguin show. That's

1187
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:16,000
he goes strange. But no, I hope, like even if

1188
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,840
maybe that's how they because we've seen scenes of her ANARCA,

1189
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,840
maybe that's how they do the flashbacks, just do the

1190
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:28,800
therapy lessons, and I very much enjoy that. So anything else, I.

1191
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,679
Speaker 3: Can't think of anything. We covered most of it.

1192
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I don't really have anything else to

1193
00:55:39,159 --> 00:55:42,039
and I don't think I feel like there was something,

1194
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:45,280
but I don't know, got mixed in the weeds.

1195
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: Okay, talk about Penguin, talk about Falcone, talked about poor

1196
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,159
I did actually like Sophia's little uh bodyguard there, but

1197
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,679
unfortunately the ball guy heat into the wrap and I

1198
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:57,559
thought John V was gonna get it there with the knife.

1199
00:55:57,639 --> 00:56:01,559
I thought Penguin was gonna uh plant him, right, there

1200
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:05,320
I still did, I miss I still missing? Why these

1201
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,400
photos of him with that woman are so born?

1202
00:56:08,159 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's so that's John's wife, right that or no,

1203
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,599
not John? What's his name? V? Whatever the his name is,

1204
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,400
that's V Eagle. It's like the two partners, the one

1205
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,920
guy the photos are with the other guy's wife.

1206
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:25,519
Speaker 1: That's okay, So what we talked about. So the guy

1207
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:30,159
that is Falcone's brother, right, so he has uncle okay.

1208
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,639
Speaker 2: And Johnny's sleep mother.

1209
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: Penguin's big play got these photos they open up, it's

1210
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,840
just Johnann's sex with his wife. It's like, so I

1211
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:41,320
got more.

1212
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,519
Speaker 3: That's the guy that executed, like the trader, like his

1213
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:47,960
wife with VD.

1214
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,119
Speaker 2: I think it's just like the two at the head,

1215
00:56:53,199 --> 00:56:54,239
right or is there three?

1216
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:55,599
Speaker 1: Is there a third guy?

1217
00:56:55,639 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: But all three of them were included, and that's the gins.

1218
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,559
But out of the two, the one guy's sleep on

1219
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:03,360
the other guy's wife.

1220
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 3: And then who was the guy Because when Penguin arrived

1221
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,039
at the funeral, there's the woman, the blonder woman, and

1222
00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:13,119
then the guy leaving and he's like Penguin's like, I

1223
00:57:13,119 --> 00:57:14,920
got something you want to see, but he just got

1224
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,599
ignored and they left and got in the limo drove off.

1225
00:57:18,119 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: Was that not the uncle though, because I thought, here.

1226
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,159
Speaker 3: The uncle was there the whole time.

1227
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: Though it looked like was he just or Milo whatever

1228
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,320
that guy his name is or whoever? Yeah, whatever one

1229
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:33,280
that is that's his wife, the blonde chick. And then

1230
00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:38,960
what's the fuck what's his name? Johnny? Yeah, he's the

1231
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,079
one sleeping with that guy's wife. And then the third one,

1232
00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:45,599
Luca is the one that shot Buddy.

1233
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,159
Speaker 1: Okay, so Luca is not in the equation. No, so

1234
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:53,920
is Carmine's brother. But like why, like why, I guess

1235
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,519
I'm still waiting to see. Does he just want to

1236
00:57:55,519 --> 00:57:58,079
create tension I guess between the two, because like he's

1237
00:57:58,119 --> 00:57:59,400
still not the head like car.

1238
00:57:59,519 --> 00:58:02,079
Speaker 2: I feel like he was. He was already like Oz

1239
00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:04,880
was going head to head with mostly that Johnny guy.

1240
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,000
Seem like Milo was kind of okay with it. So

1241
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:08,719
it seemed like that was his play to really fuck

1242
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,480
that guy over. That's the least that.

1243
00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: Guy over, but he fed him over. That's how they

1244
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,079
call me one.

1245
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: Batman too, that's his name.

1246
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the motherfucker penguin. Okay, I still wish

1247
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,920
to make that a bit more clear again, maybe I

1248
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,119
missed something, but I just said because at least it

1249
00:58:33,239 --> 00:58:35,440
is what I theorized last week. Looks, I'm like, what

1250
00:58:35,519 --> 00:58:36,960
does the matter if this guy is like even if

1251
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,760
he's just cheen on his wife, like he's like a mobster.

1252
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,000
But I did say, like, unless it's with someone else's wife,

1253
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,559
and it supposedly is, so hopefully that gets uh comes

1254
00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:44,320
to a head soon.

1255
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,079
Speaker 2: So yeah, agreed.

1256
00:58:48,159 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I think that's it for this week.

1257
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,199
If you got any questions that we missed or anything,

1258
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,440
hit us up in the discord or on patron and

1259
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,719
we will bring them to next week or we'll talk

1260
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,480
about it whenever. But yeah, next week, Yeah, we'll be

1261
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,079
back with that episode three. Hopefully it's another great one,

1262
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:03,639
and we promise you it'll not be boring.

1263
00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:05,039
Speaker 2: Bye.