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welcome in our guy Spencer letting a bau TV Spencer.
Speaker 2: How are you Ben?
Speaker 4: Greetings from Arlington. It's happening BYU is in a Power
for Conference Championship football game. In less than twenty four
hours and one win from not just getting in the
college football playoff brother, but from I think hosting a
home playoff game in the fund. You beat Texas Tech,
you deserve to be in the top eight.
Speaker 3: Let's go, Oh my goodness, gracious, is it possible?
Speaker 2: Is it? Fees?
Speaker 3: Do you think they get a home game if they
beat Texas Tech? Do you think they get a home
game in the college football playoffs?
Speaker 4: I don't see how even this committee, yes, even this
committee cannot reassess BYU IFF And I know it's a
huge hypothetical lift. But if BYU beats Texas Tech when
the Red Raiders are number four, and what's the only
thing working against BYU right now? Well, the only game
they played against an elite squad, they look like they
were incompetent and not capable of winning an important game.
That's the only thing that people keep defaulting to.
Speaker 5: Spencer.
Speaker 4: They lost by twenty two. Yeah, okay, what if they
beat that team? Now you have to reassess eleventh ranked
BYU for just beating the number four team. I don't
see how that doesn't jump BYU over the rest of
the two lost teams at least and put BYU at
worst at number eight. So not only is BYU playing
for their first ever powerful conference championship and the hoist
to Big twelve Trophy, I truly believe that if they
beat Texas Tech, they will jump at least three spots
and we'll be in level Edworth Stadium on Friday night
December nineteenth or on Saturday, December twentieth, getting ready for
the Cougars to host a playoff game. Everything is on
the line, brother, and it's it's been just the culmination
of decades of at times struggling and frustration for this
type of opportunity to break through. And people keep saying, hey, winning,
you're in. Yep, winning, you're in, and you are hosting.
Let's do this.
Speaker 3: What makes you believe that BYU will beat Texas Tech tomorrow?
BYU lost by twenty two points. It wasn't even close.
At Lobbick Tech is a twelve and a half point favorite.
Per ESPN Analytics, b I only has a thirty three
point four percent chance of victory. Give me your optimistic
takes on why BYU can get a victory in Arlington.
Speaker 4: Okay, well this disclaimer. I understand why BYU is again
a heavy underdog, Like I don't have any issue with
most oddsmakers thinking that yet it's probably going to be
a thirty one to seventeen game or a thirty four
to twenty game or something of that sort in favor
of Texas Tech. But this does feel like a totally
different BYU team, especially from an emotional standpoint. In lubbing.
BYU was the undefeated team. The Red Raiders already had
a loss to Arizona State, so when they had the
opportunity to host BYU at their place and then take
firm hold again of the Big Twelve, it sold a
little bit like Texas Tech was the team that had
more to prove and had more to lose and had
a desperation element of sort, like if they lost to
BYU and Lubbock, now they might not get to this game,
and BYU becomes the clear favorite, so they had the
desperation element of sorts this go around. Who's the team
that is absolutely desperate? Uh, yeah, it's YU. So they've
got that working for him, because nobody outside of those
probably in our circle, has been think that BYU has
any shot to actually go and win this game. Then
you throw in the element of Wow. BYU at the
beginning of the week, weren't even sure they were going
to have Kilani Satake as their head coach in this
game or even for this game, and then he's going
to State College Pennsylvania and it becomes like a lame
duck scenario. So what BYU went through to keep their
head coach and get through the first two days of
this week and all of the emotional roller coaster that
that was, and how difficult that was, and how for
some of the players and the recruiting in the future
of the team. Team in the program, like I've heard
the word frightening used to describe what it would have
been like if Colonia left. To get through that, and
then to come together and to be able to rally
around their coach after practice when he suddenly said, hey,
look I'm not going anywhere, and then the team freaks
out watching that imagery happen and knowing that hey, we
got to the next day, got through that, and then
the college football playoff ranks came out that night and
BYU still number eleven, and the disrespect and you're not
put on graphics that ESPN keeps putting out. BoA's nowhere
in the conversation, they're just beware the spided, perturbed team
that is BYU right now. So from an emotional standpoint
desperation factor, this is the only way you're probably going
to get in. This is advantage BYU. They can go
out and truly play loose because even if they don't win, well,
nobody expected you to anyway, and you can go to
pop tards, bull and nice job BYU. Pat on the back.
You went eleven and two. But guess what, you're not
good enough again. They're so tired of hearing that for
the last month and being taken as not a serious
contender to actually prove that they can get in this
playoff and earn their way in. I like that a
lot for BYU. If ever, there was a chip on
the shoulder, this might be the biggest chip on the
shoulder moment in BYU football history. I know it sounds
like hyperbole, but seriously step back and say, Okay, when
did BAU have a bigger chip on the shoulder than
they do right now? And they're using it to their
advantage now From an actual skill set and football schematic approach,
Man Ben, doesn't it feel like this team's way healthier
than they were against Texas Tack and Lubbick. Especially LJ.
Martin like he's running violently and with an edge and
with purpose. LJ from his mouth, from the mouth of
the horse himself, feels way better than he did coming
off that shoulder injury against Iowa State. So advantage that
Duiu is just feeling better, and the run game should
be better against an incredible defensive front that the Red
Raiders are going to put out there. But the offensive
line also feels like they have something to prove. Colonia
said several times, We're not just going to send Bear
back there and let him wait for longer passing ruts
to develop. We want to play with some pace. Ball's
got to come out faster. LJ is running better, offensive
line is motivated, Parker Kinkeson is motivated to show that
he can show up for the big game. The offense
should be able to manufacture some type of momentum. It
just stuff like they were stuck in the mud in Lubbock,
and so yeah, anxious to go out and show that
they can do something. I thought the defense was fine,
they were okay. They held Texas Tech to their lowest
scoring output at home on the season and the side
from the airs on the state game where Texas Tech
had their backup quarterback in the always defense, I thought
really did a nice job when their average starting films
position was what minus seventeen or eighteen yards on average
for the game insane? And your minus three in the
turnover margin crazy. So I don't expect those things to
be so wildly in favor for Texas Tech. This game
is weird, It has a weird shaped ball. Can BYU
catch a break, build some momentum, and then take some
things with a healthier bunch of guys on offense and defense? Yeah,
I think that boy's going to look like a totally
different team in this game. With hopefully twenty five to
thirty thousand BYU fans slammed into AT and T Stadium
as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what type of ticket sales do you think of?
Is it going to be fifty to fifty ordeal? I
know it's sold out. Are we going to say fifty
to fifty between Tech fans and BA fans?
Speaker 2: Will be more of a home environment for BYU?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I talked to a guy named Tagart Baron.
He's the alumni chapter chair in the Dallas Fort Worth
area for BYU, and he was feeling very confident, you know,
he had his blue goggles on and the optimism flowing,
and he said, I think it's going to be a
split stadium. I don't know if it's going to be that,
but I am confident that in a stadium that holds
a little over eighty thousand, BAU can pack in thirty thousand.
So maybe sixty forty split in favor of Texas Tech,
because this too is an accomplishment, major accomplishment moment for
Texas Tech as well to be in this game and
playing against BYU. And it's only a five hour drive
from Lubbock, but I feel like Red Raider alumni base
is all flying and from all over the country as
well to be at this game. I'd guess sixty forty.
I don't think it's gonna be fifty to fifty. That
would be something if BYU could pull that off. It's
gonna be a little bit tougher of a ticket to
get and a tougher place to get to for some
BYA fans in Texas Tech. So I'd say sixty forty.
But even thirty thousand fans like they'll be loud. BUA
fans will be loud, They'll be heard. It'll be even
better than it was, certainly for the BYU Oklahoma game
in two thousand and nine, when it felt like there
were sixty thousand Oklahoma fans and only about twenty thousand
Bye fans. I think it's going to be closer to
a true split, but it'll still still should be probably
sixty forty in favor of Texas Tech. I'm excited to
see all the blue there. It will feel like a
totally different game, a true neutral site game. Uh and
not what by was facing in a hornet's nest That
was love of just a few weeks ago.
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Speaker 3: Let's go, Okay, we'll get you aoked up. I'll get
you connected with Gabby and her starting five. She does
great work. No's answer much about it. UH Signing Day
occurred on Wednesday, and then we just got the flip
Jaren Pula and Kennon pull The two twins come into
UH BYU a top twenty five class.
Speaker 2: They ranked twenty first.
Speaker 3: Right now they have I believe, like ten four stars
nine four stars in this class. H who's your favorite
and why? What do you make of the signing class.
Speaker 4: It's always nice when you can slip not one, but
two players of the caliber of the pool of twins
like that is no small feat that BYU just pulled off.
And let's go ahead and be clear that if Kilanie
Saitake is not still the head coach at b YU,
that certainly is not happening, and probably at least half
of the class that has been celebrated this week deservevely
so that Boa just pulled in the best ever in
program history is probably gone somewhere else, and the flips
are happening to other in state schools and other power
conference schools, and those guys are not staying at BYU.
So just an incredible, an incredible week for BYU considering
everything that was on the line with Kilane is potentially
leaving for Pennsylvania. So this is credit to Kilani and
his staff. You asked my favorite. Yeah, like I like
those late slips. How do you not love that Bo's
back in the quarterback business with bear Bachmeyer and he'll
be followed by Rider Lions, And I know there's a
lot of conversation about, well what about the crossover spencer,
Like what's going to happen if there's a junior and
writer comes back and he expects be the starter after
his mission, and like, let's just get.
Speaker 2: To that prof to have. It's a great prop to have.
Speaker 4: Let's get to that point. Let's stop. Let's stop like
throwing it down to twenty twenties. I'd be like, oh no, drama.
Let's just enjoy the Big twelve championship game tomorrow. Let
Rider Lions do his thing as a missionary for the
Church of Jesus Christ, and matter of his hants for
however long that may or may not be. He said
he wants to come back in early twenty twenty seven. Great,
that's his prerogative. He can do what he wants. But
let's just worry about that when we get there. And
You're right, fantastic problem to have. Love that BYU is
back in the quarterback business. Love that they're back in
the bringing major offensive lineman like bot Mouy Talow, and
that those guys should become a more common thing. TJ. Woods,
by the way, underrated recruiter, Ben underrated recruiter on that
offensive line for the Kougs. And so yeah, I'll probably
start with those guys. But gosh, I can't think of
a crazier week in our professional careers in the broadcast
fashion than what has transpired over the past five days.
It's been insane.
Speaker 3: It's been loco, my friend, it's been crazy. Know if
sandsor Butt's about that. We got Spencer Linton on the
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house clean. So right now, BYU is a in a
place that they've never well, I feel like they've been
here before, but they haven't necessarily been here before.
Speaker 2: And I'll qualify that and I'll preface it.
Speaker 3: BYU since nineteen ninety six technically has not been able
to get over the hump into the College Football Playoff
or BCS Championship Series. Correct, right, like everybody else has,
UCF UTAH, TCU, Boise State and Northern Illinois got there,
like you go down the list of teams, and like
BYU was tremendous from O six nine.
Speaker 2: They had the two thy and.
Speaker 3: Sixteen season where they were like they're eight points away
from going undefeated. That was a great season, but it
just wasn't enough. Twenty twenty your yard short versus Coast
Carolina twenty twenty one, you fall short a little bit,
you know, with those two losses, we've just we've been
knocking on the door last year where we're knocking on
the door and we.
Speaker 2: Just don't get there.
Speaker 3: We're tied and the tiebreaker beaches we don't go to
the Big twelve championship game.
Speaker 2: We're knocking on the.
Speaker 3: Door again, right and I want to believe that now's
the time, now's the place, and it's gonna happen. But man,
it's been almost thirty years since we got into a
New Year's Ball situation. You know, are you feeling like
this is the year, now's the time, Now's the place?
Speaker 4: So it that is why it carries so much significance.
Like I've had several people say, Spencer, I know that
the eighty four championship game against Michigan that quenched it
for BYU, like that probably is a deserve number one.
But if you think about, you know, really earning it
and showing the country that, like you're legit, because people
still pointed that game and say, yo, good job beating
a six and five lame duck Michigan Wolverines team to
win your your fake national championship. Like I this this
is a different beast, right, Like you you go and
beat number four after you put together an eleven and
one campaign and like you earn it the hard way there,
you can't deny that at that point, b Yu one
million percent is an absolute contender and deserves to be
where they are.
Speaker 5: So it's just a.
Speaker 4: Different feel to go around. And you bring up ninety
six that the only New Year's dy Bowl game that
by has ever played in against Kansas State and Cooges
were number five and it was number fourteen Kansas State
and they won that game and it was so fun,
and you know, hey, Bowl Alliance like yet you know,
suck on this Cotton Bowl win. Even even then, like
the Bowl Alliance still didn't invite b YU in that year.
It was heartbreaking when BYU was not playing in the
Fiesta Bowl like they thought they were going to be,
which was part of the Elite More Elite Bowl Alliance.
The Cotton Bowl is fantastic, don't get me wrong, but
even then that year, the Cotton Bowl was not included
in the Coolest Kids Club. So this this gives BYU
the chance to just get somewhere they've never been. Even
if they don't even they got to the college football
playoffs and and didn't win the first round game, this
would still count as the official breakthrough.
Speaker 5: Okay, can we just.
Speaker 4: Make that clear. If BOU wins this game and they're
in the College Football playoff like that is breaking in
the cool kids club and then you have a chance
to win and then go play in the quarterfinals in
one of those major bowl games. But getting to the
CFP would still count as the breakthrough that BYU has
been longing for it that they have never been able
to do, to be the Alliance bull buster, to be
the bcs busal, the college Football playoff buster. Here's your opportunity.
Do I believe that BYU is going to do it tomorrow?
I'll tell you what I do believe. This is going
to look like a totally different team and it's going
to be an absolute battle. I expect, not even this game,
not even like, well, can BYU just be like, you know,
can I be within ten or like get out of
here with that No, no, no, get out of my
face with that crap. They're going to show up. It's
going to be a dog fight, and I think it's
going to get weird in the fourth quarter, and then
you never know what has can b Why you put
Texas Tech in the position that they have not been
in this season, which is with their full staff, their
full accouterment of weapons, including Baron Morton, their quarterback playing,
and BYU put them in a weird place mentally in
a close game they haven't experience to this year with
Baron Morton, Like, how does Texas Tech respond? Because? Ben,
what is by You've done? All year long? They've been
in so many close games and they've been able to
finish every close game they've played.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 4: It was not close against Texas Tech, there was no
weirdness for drama, but every other close game Boy he's
played in, they've been so clutched in critical situations in
the fourth quarter. Can they get it to that weird
scenaria in the fourth quarter? If they do, watch Out
then BYU could be that team that does it again.
Speaker 3: Watch out now, Ladies and gentlemen, Spencer Lytton, Ladies and gentlemen, Spencer.
Best way to support you? What you do, how you
do it? For all the Cougar fans that are tuning
in today.
Speaker 4: Well, we've got a two hour pregame show to get
you set for anything and everything that relates to tomorrow's
big TOEAL Championship showdown against Texas Tech. It's bright and early. Obviously,
we're on the air at eight a a Mountain time
on BYU TV to count you down to the showdown
between the Red Raiders and Cougar's. We'll have all of
the details on the latest injury update status, who's playing,
who's feeling well, who's not feeling well, the mindset of BYU.
Will have our usual assistant coaches interview, probably with Sessi
Sataki or Aaron Rodgers, talk about how the offense is
going to attack Texas techas go around, and of course
any in every stat that you could hope for, and
if you just want to be in a room where
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feels the same way that you do about the disrespected
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the pregame show is going to get you in the
right mindset to feel agitated and ready to go when
the game kicks off tomorrow at ten am. So we'll
see tomorrow on the pregame show two hours and then
win or lose, we'll be there for a postgame show
to recap how the game went down, talk to all
the key players from the game, and of course in
the interview with Cloni Okay love it.
Speaker 3: Spencer Litten make sure you follow him on x as well.
Is watching him on BAYU TV.
Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Spence, Ben, you got it, brother, I'll
say you this no more. Trust me, Bro arguments from
the college football playoff situation. Okay, well this team just
looks better than BYU. Bro, trust me. I know, boy,
you know it's.
Speaker 3: Funny because I was just look, there's a lot of
conspiracy theorists out there, and look, I am a bit
of a conspiracy theorist now post twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: But Mark Carlin's on the committee.
Speaker 3: Do you believe that Mark is advocating for his Big
twelve friend, his Big twelve rival, his Big twelve member
BYU right now in the committee.
Speaker 4: I want to believe the best in everyone, Ben, like
I want to believe the best in everyone. But there's
integrity there. Please Mark, please look.
Speaker 3: I could just imagine Mark getting in front of the committee.
He's like, look, BYU is a resilient, gritty, good football team.
I mean, they're all right, but I know, bway you
better than anybody. But look, they stole that game in
twenty twenty four from They stole it from us. The
rest stole it like they didn't earn that, and honestly,
they kind of stole the game and at Lavelle Edwards.
I mean, they shouldn't have won that game. So no,
I don't think you should be in the colleg football playoff.
Speaker 2: That's my opinion.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, I hate it. I hate that that might
actually be happening. But oh my gosh, I just I
just want to believe the best and everyone. But please
to the people that keep saying, but Notre Dame's two
losses were aby combined four points and buy Us one
losses by twenty two. Thus Notre Dame eighteen points better
than be one. Get out of here. Stop it.
Speaker 2: Crazy crazy. I'm taking crazy pills.
Speaker 4: Spencer, I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 3: Enjoy your time in Arlington, man, hopefully come back with
a dub.
Speaker 4: You got it, brother, Good to talk to you. Go Kogs.
Hope everyone listening as well, and Merry Christmas and happy Holidays.
Speaker 3: Let's go Blessings on blessings, grateful, attitude of gratitude. B
Way's got a chance. They are the master of their destiny.
They can win this game. And I do predict and
I do perceive a BYU team that will be better
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Speaker 5: How are you guys doing doing good?
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Speaker 3: It's a beautiful day in Brigham Young University Country. BYU
going to the Big twelve championship game versus Texas Tech.
Let's preview this game. I know you guys have probably
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Speaker 2: And his crew.
Speaker 3: How do you see this game right now? When you
set up these two teams side by side.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it should be an awesome game on Saturday. I
think they're gonna be a lot closer than the game
earlier in the regular season between these two teams. But yeah,
it should be a really fun game. I think BYU
has to perform better in the trenches than they did
in that lost tax attach a little while ago. If
they do that, they certainly have a shot at taking
down the Red Raiders on Saturday.
Speaker 3: How do the grading as Pro Football Focus view this
game from a great standpoint versus the their respective strength
of schedules. How have these two teams graded out through
the regular season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Texas Tech. The number one thing you
got to know about them is that they have the
best defensive line in college football, and I'm sure BYU
fans are very familiar with that after that game. They
were dominant in that game too, and it's the highest
great defensive line in the country. David Baylor, their edge rusher,
is going to be a first round pick. He leads
the country and pressures Romelo height is second in PFF
grade among edge rushers as well. Then you've got a
couple of great d tackles in the middle of it too,
like a j Holmes junior who has been outstanding for
them this year, and Lee Hunter has been really good
for them this year too. So that defensive line you
got to stop them first. I know they have a
great linebacker behind them too, and Jacob Ardriguez, who I
think should be a Heisman finalist right now. But you
need to win with line of scurvage and BA has
got a great offensive line. It's been probably the best
part of their entire offense this year. Is that offensive line.
They have to perform a lot better be than they
did against Texas Tech in their loss a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3: BYU has a true freshman quarterback, Bear Bachmeyer.
Speaker 2: That he is.
Speaker 3: I believe he's the highest grated freshman in college football
in any position group. What do we expect from Bear
in this game? He'll he obviously got to have a
better game than he did the first go around in Lubbock.
He's on a neutral field this time. This go around,
it should be fifty to fifty in the stands. Who
is Bear Bachmeyer this year? What do you like about him?
Why is he one of the best, if not the
best freshman in college football this year?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been great this year and I think, you know,
the one thing I'll say about him is that, you know,
he's just been put in a tough spot going into
the year and he's responding very very well to it. Right,
He's been a guy that just does what he's asked
of him. You know, he's not gonna go above him
beyond his job requirement. He's not going to lose games
for you. He does some great moments for them too,
And I think this game, especially, you know, if you
go back and off the Texas Tech game where they lost,
they kind of I thought, hid bear Bachmeyer a little
bit too much in that game and try to establish
a run a little bit too much. If I'm BYU tomorrow,
I'm probably coming out and throwing the ball more than expected. Honestly,
Just try to catch Texattech off their guard a little
bit and so they just can't pin their ears back
and run defense and then stop the rungs. They're one
of the best run defending teams in college football. I
think if you kind of try to surprise them a
couple of times and use some play action and have
bear Bachmeyer roll out a little bit, that might be
the way I would go about it if I was
be willing to kind of have the element of surprise
on my side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's gonna be intriguing, no doubt about it.
Why do you think bear Bachmeyer is not listed as
one of the true freshman one of the freshman finalists
for the Shawn Alexander Award when he's grated out so
well for PFF, He's got over three thousand yards he's
accounted for. Man, I want to say I had to
have to pull up the stats here, but I want
to say he's accounted for almost thirty touchdowns between being
on the ground and and through the air through his
passing forays, oh fourteen touchdowns through the air, and then
an additional eleven, so twenty five total touchdowns.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, that's a good question. You know,
I do know now at least that it's not just
a true freshman award that is a red shirt freshman
or included in that. So I think Julian Sayan is
gonna run away with that award. Probably they are including
red shirt freshman, but yeah, I'm with no doubt a
bad I think I would argue that Bear Bachmeyer might
have been the best true freshman quarterback that we've had
this year. I think he and Jaron Taave Sunkap hotel
A from Cal have definitely have an argument for that award.
But yeah, I think I think Bear Bachmeyer has been
really good this year. You know, I know a lot
of people are your fans think he was snubbed for
that award. I might agree with them too on that case,
but I think because it's including recherd freshman too, I
think that's probably why Bear Bachmeier wasn't among I believe,
like the five finalists they have for that award.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So who would he have replaced?
Speaker 3: De John Lee Alabama cornerback Malachi Tony, Miami wide receiver
Drew mess to Maker, North Texas quarterback CJ. Carr Notre
Dame quarterback Julian Saying Ohio State quarterback.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good question. I think all those guys
you can argue did have better years in Barrett Bachameer's
is what you're trying to argue here, is it? Is
it the best true freshman or is the best redshirt freshman?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 5: So I think, honestly, if you're giving it's the best
true freshman, I would argue probably mal Kai Toni, the
wide receiver at Miami. He was absolutely incredible this year
and he might have entered next year as the second
best receiver in the country behind Jeremiah Smith. Honestly, that's how.
Speaker 4: Goody was this year.
Speaker 5: But yeah, if you're giving as the best true freshman,
I would definitely at Beart Bachmeyer somewhere in the top
five true freshmen that we saw in college football this
year because he was outstanding, honestly, and I believe because
we're letting rechard freshman also be finalists for that award.
That's why you see guys with Julian saying CJ. Carr,
Drew Messmaker, even though they're in their second years in college,
there's still technically freshman as recier freshman. That's why you're
seeing those guys included for that war too.
Speaker 2: LJ.
Speaker 3: Martin is healthy game versus Texas Tech. He was not
all that healthy in the in the Tech game the
first go.
Speaker 2: Around in Lubbock. How is he graded out for PFF
versus his peers?
Speaker 3: And he's he was the Big twelve offensive player of
the year him being one hundred percent healthy.
Speaker 2: How impactful could that be? Two questions there?
Speaker 5: Yeah, really impactful. You know, he's been a really good
running back all year for BYU. He's been outstanding at
delivering yards after contact. So having him healthy and fully
healthy out there is huge for BYU. But once again,
it all stems to the offensive line. Because I don't
care how good LG. Martin is, and he is a
fantastic running back, it's hard to do a lot if
your offensive line gets dominated the way BYUS did in
that last loss to Texas Tech. So having it fully
healthy is absolutely massive and that will be huge tomorrow
in that game. But you need the offensive line to
perform a lot betters. I believe b YU only had
sixty seven rushing yards against Texas Tech and that loss.
That was a season low for b YU in that game.
So it's to be better with LG More unhealthy. But
it won't be that much better if the offensive line
can't perform a lot better than what they did in
the last game.
Speaker 3: We got Pro Football Focuses next. Chadwick here on ESPN
the Fan discussing college football BYU versus Texas Tech. Texas
Tech is a twelve and a half point favorite in Arlington,
and what makes you believe that by you could maybe
pull this off? Like, do you have any tenets? You're like, Hey,
this would have to happen in order to be for
BYU to bet Tech on Saturday.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think two things. I think both of the balls
on the trenches. One, like I mentioned time and time again,
the office one has to play better. You know, you
can't have Bear Bachmert getting hit as much as he did.
I believe you got hit five times in that Texas
Tech game, which is the season high for BYU and
against season low and rushing yards too, so by all accounts,
is not a great day for It was the worst
game of the year for BYU's offense this year, that
offensive one has to perform better and the other side too.
Texas Tech has been running a lot of gap scheme
runs this year, and I think b YU has don
a great job to set that. It wasn't as good
in the last game he played against them, but I
don't think the BU defense is that bad honestly. In
that game, I think it just kind of got tired
out from the offense not doing anything really for their game.
So play team football, you know, like the last game
they had in that one too, which that was a
huge play in that game. If you stop the run
for Texas Tech and force Baron Morton into obvious passing downs.
He has not been that great this year, and I
think BYU might have the quarterback advantage honestly in this
game a Bear Bachmeyer over Baron Morton. But you've got
to make Texas Tech rely on their quarterback because if
they do, that's an avenue for BYU secondary, which has
been really good over the middle of the field all year.
That's an avenue for them to play a lot better.
So I think the BYU linebackers are kind of spotlighting
in this game. They need to be able to stop
the run and not let Texas Tech run all over
them because if that does happen, it could turn into
a low scoring game. And maybe bear Backmeyer can have
a few magical plays in him and just barely edge
out Baron Morton in that regard.
Speaker 3: If you look at nil offerings, I mean this is
kind of a David versus go Liar type of Texas Tech.
Speaker 2: I think spent a reported twenty.
Speaker 3: Eight million, BYU was at most ten million, and so
obviously boy is a heavy dog in this game. But
they're gonna need their best players to play at the
at their in their best game of the season order
to beat Tech, who have been per pff bo's best
offensive in defensive players thus far this season, like top
three or four guys, who have they been?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I don't know havet You don't have
the great in front of me, but I can tell
you the Lja Moran has been phenomenal, Bear bach Mark
has been phenomenal. I know, Bruce Mitchell, their center has
been one of the highest greatest centers that we have
in college football this year, so he's been great. He's
been a big part of that offensive line, which is normally,
Like I said, the offense line is normally one of
the best in the country. Just that one game against
Texas Tech and the best d line in the country,
they weren't as good as Defensively, it's all about the
middle of the defense. Honestly, those linebackers like Isaiah Glasker
and Jack Kelly and those guys and filed South Soathawuala
and Tanner Wall safety, they have been terrific too. So
I think the middle of Uyu's defense I've been phenomenal
this year. The offensive line for BOI isn't great. You
got great running back in l. J. Moran and a
really good true freshman quarterback in Barrett Bachmeyer. Two, they're
gonna have to play big time tomorrow to pull off
this game and for BA to be sent to the playoff.
It kind of sucks that BI using this spot right
now where they have to win in order to make
the playoff. I don't personally think they should be in
that position right now. They should probably be in regardless
if they win or lose tomorrow. But that's the spot
they're in right now by the committee, and they have
to be Texas Tech tomorrow, and they need those players
just mentioned and a lot more of them to be
able to pull off this upset tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Why do you think that BYU has to beat Tech
in order to get into the College Football Playoff?
Speaker 2: Is that fair?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think this is the only eleven and
one team in the College Football Playoff era that has
not been ranked in the top ten.
Speaker 2: What makes this year so different?
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's a good question. You know, I
personally would have them. I have them I think like
eight on my personal rankings. And I mean, I'm of
the belief that, you know, whoever makes it to conference
tampionship weekend should not be removed from the playoffs or
losing it. So if you're already in the playoff and
if you lose your conference title game, you shouldn't be
removed because I think it's a reward for what you've
done all year to be able to play in that game.
You should not be punished for playing that game. So,
for example, like Alabama, if they lose tomorrow Georgia, I
would not remove them for the playoff because they're in
the playoffs already. I would already have YU in the
playoff two, and I would not remove them if they
lost Texas tack again and finished off eleven and two.
So I can't answer for the committee, but I can
tell you right now the fact that BYU is already
out of the playoff at number eleven. They need to
win tomorrow. If they lose, there's obviously no way they're
going to move up into the top ten. And you
have to move into the top ten in order to
make the playoff as in that large team. So the
only way for BYU to make the playoff tomorrow is
to have an automatic qualifier by beating text Attack and
winning the Big twelve if they if they lose the
Text Attack, there is even though I would personally put
them in, I'm sure you would put them in. I'm
sure all your listeners put them in. The committee has
proven time and time again they will not put in
BYU if they move Texas at tomorrow.
Speaker 3: It's funny, look, we get into conspiracy theories as to
why by US on the outside looking in, whether it's
like brand equity right conference affiliation b YU was an
independent for a long time. Some people will throw out
the faith element, religious elements. Some people will say, hey,
b Yu, just they just haven't been in a power four.
They haven't been in the power four power five world
long enough to have the the equity. The other theory
is Mark Harlan uh the the eighty for Utah. You know,
you take into account all of his comments about he
feels like the BYU Utah game was stolen from Utah
at at in Salt Lake last year and has never
been all the all that friendly or positive towards b Yu,
even in the ensuing years b Yu, by the skin
of their teeth, they think maybe beat Utah the year
that he's not advocate. What do you chalk it up to?
When you hear all those things? Obviously a lot of conspiracies,
how valid are they?
Speaker 2: But how do you chalk it up?
Speaker 5: You know, I don't think the committee has any you know,
I don't think there is a conspiracy or anything like
that to keep schools like BYU out of it. I
think there might be inherent biases that the committee members.
Speaker 2: Have and you know what they're from? Yeah, one, Where
where would those stem from? Them?
Speaker 3: What are the inherent biases, the human fallibility anecdotal element
of it all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, for example, like a program like Notre Dame, right,
you know, we always affiliate them because they're one of
the greatest programs in college football, right, we always affiliate
them with success and if they go since they're right
off ten straight wins, even though I would argue those
ten wins aren't as impressive as what BYU has done
this year. Who's eleven and one by the way, this year,
that's probably why they're getting over a BYU. I don't know. Again,
I personally would have BYU the top ten. I think
the fact that they're eleven to one, like you said,
the fact that they their only losses on the road
to a top five team in the country by then
their own committee's rankings, the fact that they beat the
top fifteen team by the committe rankings in fact going
to be another top twenty team in Arizona and Utab
obviously the two top twenty season just mentioned by the
committee's rankings. And some other great wins too, like obviously
they got a wins over Cincinnati on the road too,
thought it was a really good win. Again, I don't
personally get it. Why BYU is being disrespected like this
and not in the top ten, But that's how the
Committee's done it. I can't answer it to you know,
any conspiracy theories of what the Committee's doing right now.
All I can tell you right now is that I
very much disagree with how BYU has been treated so far.
And again, I think tomorrow should be all about seating
for BAU and Texas Tech. I think both of them
should be guaranteed to make the playoff. But the way
the Committe's ranked right now by us pretty much is
a de facto playoff game for BOYU tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.
Speaker 3: BYA Football is number six in the country against the
spread this year the Vegas spread the lines.
Speaker 2: How do you evaluate that number six?
Speaker 3: Texas Tech, by the way, he's number one in the country,
Ohio State's number two, Utah State, number three, North Texas
for Vanderbilt five. BYU's nine and three against the spread,
Sandy UO State's at seven, Western Tech, Kentucky eight, Western
Michigan nine, Hawaii ten, Alabama is actually eleven, oh Iowa twelve,
South Forward to thirteen, Toledo fourteen, and the Central Michigan fifteen.
Speaker 2: What do you make of that stat you're a man
of metrics.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it says a lot to the program
Kalina Stockey's built and honestly, the expectations for b what
you going into the year. I mean, I'll admit it
to you guys. I think I went on the show
preseason and you guys asked me, like, what are yours
your outlooks for the team this year? And I said
six and six, seven and five maybe, like I thought,
you know, with all the Jake Wrestloff stuff going on,
and how I was very much worried about the quarterback
room going into I was like, yeah, they have a
lot of talent which will drag this team to a
bowl game, but I don't know at quarterback they have enough.
And Bear Bachmeer has proven me wrong and the entire
BOUS team has proven me wrong. Kalinastockey's proven me wrong.
And credit to them. Man, this is two years in
a row now where I've been shocked by how good
BYU has been this year. Maybe that's another part of
it for the committee is that you know, Ba he
didn't enter this year, is the top twenty five team
in the country. Notre Dame did enter as a top
ten team, and you know, maybe that's why the committee
has kind of taken too long to get adjusted to that.
But I think, yeah, that statue has told me nine
to three gets has spread as Vegas too, being like, yeah,
we don't really believe in BYU right now, but they
continuously have proven them wrong time and time again and
what like three quarters of their games so far this year,
and we'll see if they can do it again tomorrow.
And again, it sucks. That's the fact of a playoff
game for b YU. But you know what, at least
you're in that spot this ye're in a spot where
you can win and get in the playoffs, whereas other
schools like Miami for example, they might be screwed. Right,
So I think BYU at least has the opportunity to
win and get into the playoff, whereas other schools that
are on the outside looking at right now, they don't
get that opportunity.
Speaker 3: Max Chadwick here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network representing.
Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate that. I host the PFF College Football Show,
which is on YouTube and anywhere you get your podcast too,
and we're doing a live show. We did one live
show today actually going over the top recruiting fives and
the top recruits in the country, and then another live
show on Sunday morning at ten am me Fron time,
breaking down every single conference title game in its entirety,
and of course reacting live to the updated playoff racket,
which will be ten am Eastern Time. I believe this
is a what eight am or seven am Eastern time
for you guys out there in Utah. So yeah, I
can't wait for it. I mean, we're getting very very
close to the playoff right now. It's kind of feel surreal.
Speaker 3: Crazy times in the college football world right now. Max Chadwick,
ladies and gentlemen, thanks for joining us. Great segment as always,
Thanks Ben.
Speaker 2: There you have it.
Speaker 3: That's Pro Football Focuses, Max Chadwick and great segment, great commentary.
Andrew Peterson. I want to bring you in loop you
in here and get your.
Speaker 2: Thoughts on it.
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Speaker 6: Well, the thing that you guys talked about at the
end there. I like his comment that maybe it's the
starting point where Byu is like, this is he's He's right.
This is the second year in a row that Byu
was shocked the nation and shocked everyone. To be honest,
I don't think anyone expected Boa to be eleven and
one this year. Nobody expected them to go eleven and
two last year. I'm just wondering, does if Byu is
able to to keep the core together, say you've got
bear Bachmeers, say l J. Martin comes back, does b
YU get their respect going into next season, or does
something happen again where everyone finds a way to not
believe in Byu. I think, honestly, the real, the real,
the real villain here isn't necessarily a conspiracy theory. It's
the preseason poll and the fact that the College Football
Playoff Committee is not working hard enough, in my opinion,
in to do anything other than look at the ap
pole a couple of weeks before their show and then
go off of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an intriguing situation, no doubt about it. It's
a confusing situation for many of Kugarnation. You just want
to make sense of it all. You just want transparency.
You want accountability in life, don't you. I mean all
of us want transparency, accountability until we're the ones that
had maybe you have to be held accountable for actions
or decisions, right, but they should, you know, they're the
ones that hey sign up to be committee members. There
should be a bit more. I want to hear from
each and every one of them and see how they voted. Well,
I want That's what I want to see. I want
That's what I want to see.
Speaker 6: What I want the College Football Playoffs show to be
is film of them actually in their discussions, kind of
like we're getting film of the referee reviews, the official
reviews during games in the ACC. I think they're having
the actual like fans get to hear what they're saying.
I think the Big Twelve is doing that soon. I
think we should do that with the Playoff community discussions.
Put out the film film their discussions, film how they
come up with these rankings so that we actually have
some transparency.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, guys, let's take a brief time out.
Speaker 2: We'll be back. Great segment with Max Chadwick.
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