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welcome in our guy Spencer letting a bau TV Spencer.

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Speaker 2: How are you Ben?

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Speaker 4: Greetings from Arlington. It's happening BYU is in a Power

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for Conference Championship football game. In less than twenty four

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hours and one win from not just getting in the

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college football playoff brother, but from I think hosting a

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home playoff game in the fund. You beat Texas Tech,

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you deserve to be in the top eight.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, Oh my goodness, gracious, is it possible?

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Speaker 2: Is it? Fees?

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Speaker 3: Do you think they get a home game if they

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beat Texas Tech? Do you think they get a home

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game in the college football playoffs?

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Speaker 4: I don't see how even this committee, yes, even this

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committee cannot reassess BYU IFF And I know it's a

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huge hypothetical lift. But if BYU beats Texas Tech when

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the Red Raiders are number four, and what's the only

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thing working against BYU right now? Well, the only game

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they played against an elite squad, they look like they

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were incompetent and not capable of winning an important game.

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That's the only thing that people keep defaulting to.

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Speaker 5: Spencer.

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Speaker 4: They lost by twenty two. Yeah, okay, what if they

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beat that team? Now you have to reassess eleventh ranked

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BYU for just beating the number four team. I don't

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see how that doesn't jump BYU over the rest of

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the two lost teams at least and put BYU at

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worst at number eight. So not only is BYU playing

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for their first ever powerful conference championship and the hoist

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to Big twelve Trophy, I truly believe that if they

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beat Texas Tech, they will jump at least three spots

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and we'll be in level Edworth Stadium on Friday night

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December nineteenth or on Saturday, December twentieth, getting ready for

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the Cougars to host a playoff game. Everything is on

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the line, brother, and it's it's been just the culmination

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of decades of at times struggling and frustration for this

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type of opportunity to break through. And people keep saying, hey, winning,

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you're in. Yep, winning, you're in, and you are hosting.

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Let's do this.

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Speaker 3: What makes you believe that BYU will beat Texas Tech tomorrow?

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BYU lost by twenty two points. It wasn't even close.

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At Lobbick Tech is a twelve and a half point favorite.

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Per ESPN Analytics, b I only has a thirty three

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point four percent chance of victory. Give me your optimistic

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takes on why BYU can get a victory in Arlington.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well this disclaimer. I understand why BYU is again

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a heavy underdog, Like I don't have any issue with

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most oddsmakers thinking that yet it's probably going to be

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a thirty one to seventeen game or a thirty four

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to twenty game or something of that sort in favor

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of Texas Tech. But this does feel like a totally

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different BYU team, especially from an emotional standpoint. In lubbing.

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BYU was the undefeated team. The Red Raiders already had

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a loss to Arizona State, so when they had the

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opportunity to host BYU at their place and then take

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firm hold again of the Big Twelve, it sold a

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little bit like Texas Tech was the team that had

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more to prove and had more to lose and had

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a desperation element of sort, like if they lost to

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BYU and Lubbock, now they might not get to this game,

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and BYU becomes the clear favorite, so they had the

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desperation element of sorts this go around. Who's the team

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that is absolutely desperate? Uh, yeah, it's YU. So they've

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got that working for him, because nobody outside of those

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probably in our circle, has been think that BYU has

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any shot to actually go and win this game. Then

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you throw in the element of Wow. BYU at the

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beginning of the week, weren't even sure they were going

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to have Kilani Satake as their head coach in this

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game or even for this game, and then he's going

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to State College Pennsylvania and it becomes like a lame

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duck scenario. So what BYU went through to keep their

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head coach and get through the first two days of

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this week and all of the emotional roller coaster that

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that was, and how difficult that was, and how for

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some of the players and the recruiting in the future

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of the team. Team in the program, like I've heard

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the word frightening used to describe what it would have

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been like if Colonia left. To get through that, and

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then to come together and to be able to rally

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around their coach after practice when he suddenly said, hey,

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look I'm not going anywhere, and then the team freaks

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out watching that imagery happen and knowing that hey, we

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got to the next day, got through that, and then

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the college football playoff ranks came out that night and

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BYU still number eleven, and the disrespect and you're not

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put on graphics that ESPN keeps putting out. BoA's nowhere

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in the conversation, they're just beware the spided, perturbed team

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that is BYU right now. So from an emotional standpoint

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desperation factor, this is the only way you're probably going

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to get in. This is advantage BYU. They can go

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out and truly play loose because even if they don't win, well,

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nobody expected you to anyway, and you can go to

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pop tards, bull and nice job BYU. Pat on the back.

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You went eleven and two. But guess what, you're not

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good enough again. They're so tired of hearing that for

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the last month and being taken as not a serious

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contender to actually prove that they can get in this

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playoff and earn their way in. I like that a

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lot for BYU. If ever, there was a chip on

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the shoulder, this might be the biggest chip on the

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shoulder moment in BYU football history. I know it sounds

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like hyperbole, but seriously step back and say, Okay, when

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did BAU have a bigger chip on the shoulder than

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they do right now? And they're using it to their

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advantage now From an actual skill set and football schematic approach,

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Man Ben, doesn't it feel like this team's way healthier

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than they were against Texas Tack and Lubbick. Especially LJ.

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Martin like he's running violently and with an edge and

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with purpose. LJ from his mouth, from the mouth of

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the horse himself, feels way better than he did coming

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off that shoulder injury against Iowa State. So advantage that

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Duiu is just feeling better, and the run game should

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be better against an incredible defensive front that the Red

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Raiders are going to put out there. But the offensive

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line also feels like they have something to prove. Colonia

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said several times, We're not just going to send Bear

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back there and let him wait for longer passing ruts

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to develop. We want to play with some pace. Ball's

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got to come out faster. LJ is running better, offensive

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line is motivated, Parker Kinkeson is motivated to show that

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he can show up for the big game. The offense

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should be able to manufacture some type of momentum. It

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just stuff like they were stuck in the mud in Lubbock,

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and so yeah, anxious to go out and show that

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they can do something. I thought the defense was fine,

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they were okay. They held Texas Tech to their lowest

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scoring output at home on the season and the side

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from the airs on the state game where Texas Tech

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had their backup quarterback in the always defense, I thought

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really did a nice job when their average starting films

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position was what minus seventeen or eighteen yards on average

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for the game insane? And your minus three in the

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turnover margin crazy. So I don't expect those things to

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be so wildly in favor for Texas Tech. This game

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is weird, It has a weird shaped ball. Can BYU

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catch a break, build some momentum, and then take some

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things with a healthier bunch of guys on offense and defense? Yeah,

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I think that boy's going to look like a totally

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different team in this game. With hopefully twenty five to

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thirty thousand BYU fans slammed into AT and T Stadium

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as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what type of ticket sales do you think of?

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know it's sold out. Are we going to say fifty

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to fifty between Tech fans and BA fans?

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Speaker 2: Will be more of a home environment for BYU?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So I talked to a guy named Tagart Baron.

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He's the alumni chapter chair in the Dallas Fort Worth

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area for BYU, and he was feeling very confident, you know,

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he had his blue goggles on and the optimism flowing,

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and he said, I think it's going to be a

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split stadium. I don't know if it's going to be that,

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but I am confident that in a stadium that holds

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a little over eighty thousand, BAU can pack in thirty thousand.

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So maybe sixty forty split in favor of Texas Tech,

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because this too is an accomplishment, major accomplishment moment for

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Texas Tech as well to be in this game and

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playing against BYU. And it's only a five hour drive

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from Lubbock, but I feel like Red Raider alumni base

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is all flying and from all over the country as

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well to be at this game. I'd guess sixty forty.

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I don't think it's gonna be fifty to fifty. That

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would be something if BYU could pull that off. It's

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gonna be a little bit tougher of a ticket to

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get and a tougher place to get to for some

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BYA fans in Texas Tech. So I'd say sixty forty.

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But even thirty thousand fans like they'll be loud. BUA

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fans will be loud, They'll be heard. It'll be even

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better than it was, certainly for the BYU Oklahoma game

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in two thousand and nine, when it felt like there

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were sixty thousand Oklahoma fans and only about twenty thousand

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Bye fans. I think it's going to be closer to

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a true split, but it'll still still should be probably

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sixty forty in favor of Texas Tech. I'm excited to

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see all the blue there. It will feel like a

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totally different game, a true neutral site game. Uh and

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not what by was facing in a hornet's nest That

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was love of just a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: You need you need a little love at the home.

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Speaker 4: Ben, And this is not a joke. I was just thinking,

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what do I need to buy for my wife? What

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can I do for her? How can I help her

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for Christmas? And my Hey? What if I just paid

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house cleaners to come clean the whole house like I

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take the family out to go see a movie in

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and some dinner, and then we come home in the

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house is sparkling clean like Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Hunt.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, yeah, I'm gonna hook you up.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you in contact with Gabby. Are you're

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in Utah County right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, Saratoga Springs represent Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, Okay, we'll get you aoked up. I'll get

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Speaker 2: They ranked twenty first.

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Speaker 3: Right now they have I believe, like ten four stars

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nine four stars in this class. H who's your favorite

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Speaker 4: It's always nice when you can slip not one, but

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two players of the caliber of the pool of twins

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like that is no small feat that BYU just pulled off.

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that certainly is not happening, and probably at least half

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of the class that has been celebrated this week deservevely

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so that Boa just pulled in the best ever in

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program history is probably gone somewhere else, and the flips

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are happening to other in state schools and other power

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conference schools, and those guys are not staying at BYU.

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So just an incredible, an incredible week for BYU considering

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everything that was on the line with Kilane is potentially

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leaving for Pennsylvania. So this is credit to Kilani and

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his staff. You asked my favorite. Yeah, like I like

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those late slips. How do you not love that Bo's

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back in the quarterback business with bear Bachmeyer and he'll

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be followed by Rider Lions, And I know there's a

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lot of conversation about, well what about the crossover spencer,

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writer comes back and he expects be the starter after

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his mission, and like, let's just get.

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Speaker 2: To that prof to have. It's a great prop to have.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to that point. Let's stop. Let's stop like

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throwing it down to twenty twenties. I'd be like, oh no, drama.

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Let's just enjoy the Big twelve championship game tomorrow. Let

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Rider Lions do his thing as a missionary for the

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Church of Jesus Christ, and matter of his hants for

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however long that may or may not be. He said

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he wants to come back in early twenty twenty seven. Great,

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that's his prerogative. He can do what he wants. But

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let's just worry about that when we get there. And

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You're right, fantastic problem to have. Love that BYU is

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back in the quarterback business. Love that they're back in

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the bringing major offensive lineman like bot Mouy Talow, and

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that those guys should become a more common thing. TJ. Woods,

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by the way, underrated recruiter, Ben underrated recruiter on that

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offensive line for the Kougs. And so yeah, I'll probably

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start with those guys. But gosh, I can't think of

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a crazier week in our professional careers in the broadcast

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fashion than what has transpired over the past five days.

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It's been insane.

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Speaker 3: It's been loco, my friend, it's been crazy. Know if

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sandsor Butt's about that. We got Spencer Linton on the

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line here in a Cougar Beat brought to by Brezea

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house clean. So right now, BYU is a in a

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place that they've never well, I feel like they've been

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here before, but they haven't necessarily been here before.

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Speaker 2: And I'll qualify that and I'll preface it.

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Speaker 3: BYU since nineteen ninety six technically has not been able

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to get over the hump into the College Football Playoff

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or BCS Championship Series. Correct, right, like everybody else has,

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UCF UTAH, TCU, Boise State and Northern Illinois got there,

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like you go down the list of teams, and like

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BYU was tremendous from O six nine.

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Speaker 2: They had the two thy and.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen season where they were like they're eight points away

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from going undefeated. That was a great season, but it

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just wasn't enough. Twenty twenty your yard short versus Coast

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Carolina twenty twenty one, you fall short a little bit,

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you know, with those two losses, we've just we've been

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knocking on the door last year where we're knocking on

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the door and we.

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Speaker 2: Just don't get there.

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Speaker 3: We're tied and the tiebreaker beaches we don't go to

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the Big twelve championship game.

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Speaker 2: We're knocking on the.

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Speaker 3: Door again, right and I want to believe that now's

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the time, now's the place, and it's gonna happen. But man,

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it's been almost thirty years since we got into a

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New Year's Ball situation. You know, are you feeling like

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this is the year, now's the time, Now's the place?

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Speaker 4: So it that is why it carries so much significance.

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Like I've had several people say, Spencer, I know that

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the eighty four championship game against Michigan that quenched it

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for BYU, like that probably is a deserve number one.

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But if you think about, you know, really earning it

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and showing the country that, like you're legit, because people

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still pointed that game and say, yo, good job beating

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a six and five lame duck Michigan Wolverines team to

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win your your fake national championship. Like I this this

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is a different beast, right, Like you you go and

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beat number four after you put together an eleven and

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one campaign and like you earn it the hard way there,

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you can't deny that at that point, b Yu one

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million percent is an absolute contender and deserves to be

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where they are.

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Speaker 5: So it's just a.

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Speaker 4: Different feel to go around. And you bring up ninety

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six that the only New Year's dy Bowl game that

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by has ever played in against Kansas State and Cooges

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were number five and it was number fourteen Kansas State

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and they won that game and it was so fun,

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and you know, hey, Bowl Alliance like yet you know,

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suck on this Cotton Bowl win. Even even then, like

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the Bowl Alliance still didn't invite b YU in that year.

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It was heartbreaking when BYU was not playing in the

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Fiesta Bowl like they thought they were going to be,

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which was part of the Elite More Elite Bowl Alliance.

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The Cotton Bowl is fantastic, don't get me wrong, but

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even then that year, the Cotton Bowl was not included

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in the Coolest Kids Club. So this this gives BYU

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the chance to just get somewhere they've never been. Even

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if they don't even they got to the college football

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playoffs and and didn't win the first round game, this

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would still count as the official breakthrough.

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Speaker 5: Okay, can we just.

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Speaker 4: Make that clear. If BOU wins this game and they're

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in the College Football playoff like that is breaking in

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the cool kids club and then you have a chance

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to win and then go play in the quarterfinals in

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one of those major bowl games. But getting to the

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CFP would still count as the breakthrough that BYU has

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been longing for it that they have never been able

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to do, to be the Alliance bull buster, to be

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the bcs busal, the college Football playoff buster. Here's your opportunity.

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Do I believe that BYU is going to do it tomorrow?

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I'll tell you what I do believe. This is going

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to look like a totally different team and it's going

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to be an absolute battle. I expect, not even this game,

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not even like, well, can BYU just be like, you know,

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can I be within ten or like get out of

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here with that No, no, no, get out of my

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face with that crap. They're going to show up. It's

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going to be a dog fight, and I think it's

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going to get weird in the fourth quarter, and then

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you never know what has can b Why you put

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Texas Tech in the position that they have not been

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in this season, which is with their full staff, their

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full accouterment of weapons, including Baron Morton, their quarterback playing,

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and BYU put them in a weird place mentally in

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a close game they haven't experience to this year with

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Baron Morton, Like, how does Texas Tech respond? Because? Ben,

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what is by You've done? All year long? They've been

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in so many close games and they've been able to

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finish every close game they've played.

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Speaker 5: It.

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Speaker 4: It was not close against Texas Tech, there was no

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weirdness for drama, but every other close game Boy he's

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played in, they've been so clutched in critical situations in

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the fourth quarter. Can they get it to that weird

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scenaria in the fourth quarter? If they do, watch Out

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then BYU could be that team that does it again.

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Speaker 3: Watch out now, Ladies and gentlemen, Spencer Lytton, Ladies and gentlemen, Spencer.

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Best way to support you? What you do, how you

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do it? For all the Cougar fans that are tuning

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in today.

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Speaker 4: Well, we've got a two hour pregame show to get

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you set for anything and everything that relates to tomorrow's

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big TOEAL Championship showdown against Texas Tech. It's bright and early. Obviously,

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we're on the air at eight a a Mountain time

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on BYU TV to count you down to the showdown

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between the Red Raiders and Cougar's. We'll have all of

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the details on the latest injury update status, who's playing,

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who's feeling well, who's not feeling well, the mindset of BYU.

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Will have our usual assistant coaches interview, probably with Sessi

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Sataki or Aaron Rodgers, talk about how the offense is

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going to attack Texas techas go around, and of course

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any in every stat that you could hope for, and

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if you just want to be in a room where

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you want to get in that echo chamber where everybody

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feels the same way that you do about the disrespected

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the YUS feeling from the College Football Playoffs Committee, like

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the pregame show is going to get you in the

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right mindset to feel agitated and ready to go when

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the game kicks off tomorrow at ten am. So we'll

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see tomorrow on the pregame show two hours and then

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win or lose, we'll be there for a postgame show

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to recap how the game went down, talk to all

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the key players from the game, and of course in

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the interview with Cloni Okay love it.

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Speaker 3: Spencer Litten make sure you follow him on x as well.

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Is watching him on BAYU TV.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Spence, Ben, you got it, brother, I'll

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say you this no more. Trust me, Bro arguments from

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the college football playoff situation. Okay, well this team just

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looks better than BYU. Bro, trust me. I know, boy,

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you know it's.

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Speaker 3: Funny because I was just look, there's a lot of

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conspiracy theorists out there, and look, I am a bit

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of a conspiracy theorist now post twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: But Mark Carlin's on the committee.

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Speaker 3: Do you believe that Mark is advocating for his Big

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twelve friend, his Big twelve rival, his Big twelve member

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BYU right now in the committee.

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Speaker 4: I want to believe the best in everyone, Ben, like

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I want to believe the best in everyone. But there's

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integrity there. Please Mark, please look.

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Speaker 3: I could just imagine Mark getting in front of the committee.

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He's like, look, BYU is a resilient, gritty, good football team.

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I mean, they're all right, but I know, bway you

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better than anybody. But look, they stole that game in

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twenty twenty four from They stole it from us. The

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rest stole it like they didn't earn that, and honestly,

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they kind of stole the game and at Lavelle Edwards.

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I mean, they shouldn't have won that game. So no,

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I don't think you should be in the colleg football playoff.

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Speaker 2: That's my opinion.

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Speaker 4: Oh dude, I hate it. I hate that that might

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actually be happening. But oh my gosh, I just I

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just want to believe the best and everyone. But please

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to the people that keep saying, but Notre Dame's two

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losses were aby combined four points and buy Us one

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losses by twenty two. Thus Notre Dame eighteen points better

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than be one. Get out of here. Stop it.

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Speaker 2: Crazy crazy. I'm taking crazy pills.

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Speaker 4: Spencer, I can't do it anymore.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy your time in Arlington, man, hopefully come back with

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a dub.

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Speaker 4: You got it, brother, Good to talk to you. Go Kogs.

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Hope everyone listening as well, and Merry Christmas and happy Holidays.

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Speaker 3: Let's go Blessings on blessings, grateful, attitude of gratitude. B

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Way's got a chance. They are the master of their destiny.

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They can win this game. And I do predict and

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I do perceive a BYU team that will be better

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than they were in Arlington. Know if answer, but a

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Speaker 2: Today, let's get out to the hotline.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in College Football Insider, the man of Metrics. We

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got Max Chadwick on the line representing Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 2: Max, how are you?

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Speaker 5: How are you guys doing doing good?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: It's a beautiful day in Brigham Young University Country. BYU

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going to the Big twelve championship game versus Texas Tech.

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Let's preview this game. I know you guys have probably

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delved into it on your podcast. We advise everyone to

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Speaker 2: And his crew.

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Speaker 3: How do you see this game right now? When you

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set up these two teams side by side.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it should be an awesome game on Saturday. I

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think they're gonna be a lot closer than the game

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earlier in the regular season between these two teams. But yeah,

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it should be a really fun game. I think BYU

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has to perform better in the trenches than they did

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in that lost tax attach a little while ago. If

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they do that, they certainly have a shot at taking

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down the Red Raiders on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: How do the grading as Pro Football Focus view this

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game from a great standpoint versus the their respective strength

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of schedules. How have these two teams graded out through

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the regular season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Texas Tech. The number one thing you

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got to know about them is that they have the

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best defensive line in college football, and I'm sure BYU

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fans are very familiar with that after that game. They

536
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were dominant in that game too, and it's the highest

537
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great defensive line in the country. David Baylor, their edge rusher,

538
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is going to be a first round pick. He leads

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the country and pressures Romelo height is second in PFF

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grade among edge rushers as well. Then you've got a

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couple of great d tackles in the middle of it too,

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like a j Holmes junior who has been outstanding for

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them this year, and Lee Hunter has been really good

544
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for them this year too. So that defensive line you

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got to stop them first. I know they have a

546
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great linebacker behind them too, and Jacob Ardriguez, who I

547
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think should be a Heisman finalist right now. But you

548
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need to win with line of scurvage and BA has

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got a great offensive line. It's been probably the best

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part of their entire offense this year. Is that offensive line.

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They have to perform a lot better be than they

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did against Texas Tech in their loss a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: BYU has a true freshman quarterback, Bear Bachmeyer.

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Speaker 2: That he is.

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Speaker 3: I believe he's the highest grated freshman in college football

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in any position group. What do we expect from Bear

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in this game? He'll he obviously got to have a

558
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better game than he did the first go around in Lubbock.

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He's on a neutral field this time. This go around,

560
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it should be fifty to fifty in the stands. Who

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is Bear Bachmeyer this year? What do you like about him?

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Why is he one of the best, if not the

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best freshman in college football this year?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been great this year and I think, you know,

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the one thing I'll say about him is that, you know,

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he's just been put in a tough spot going into

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the year and he's responding very very well to it. Right,

568
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He's been a guy that just does what he's asked

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of him. You know, he's not gonna go above him

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beyond his job requirement. He's not going to lose games

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for you. He does some great moments for them too,

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And I think this game, especially, you know, if you

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go back and off the Texas Tech game where they lost,

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they kind of I thought, hid bear Bachmeyer a little

575
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bit too much in that game and try to establish

576
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a run a little bit too much. If I'm BYU tomorrow,

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I'm probably coming out and throwing the ball more than expected. Honestly,

578
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Just try to catch Texattech off their guard a little

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bit and so they just can't pin their ears back

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and run defense and then stop the rungs. They're one

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of the best run defending teams in college football. I

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think if you kind of try to surprise them a

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couple of times and use some play action and have

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bear Bachmeyer roll out a little bit, that might be

585
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the way I would go about it if I was

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be willing to kind of have the element of surprise

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on my side.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's gonna be intriguing, no doubt about it.

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Why do you think bear Bachmeyer is not listed as

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one of the true freshman one of the freshman finalists

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for the Shawn Alexander Award when he's grated out so

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well for PFF, He's got over three thousand yards he's

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accounted for. Man, I want to say I had to

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have to pull up the stats here, but I want

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to say he's accounted for almost thirty touchdowns between being

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on the ground and and through the air through his

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passing forays, oh fourteen touchdowns through the air, and then

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an additional eleven, so twenty five total touchdowns.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, that's a good question. You know,

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I do know now at least that it's not just

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a true freshman award that is a red shirt freshman

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or included in that. So I think Julian Sayan is

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gonna run away with that award. Probably they are including

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red shirt freshman, but yeah, I'm with no doubt a

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bad I think I would argue that Bear Bachmeyer might

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have been the best true freshman quarterback that we've had

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this year. I think he and Jaron Taave Sunkap hotel

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A from Cal have definitely have an argument for that award.

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But yeah, I think I think Bear Bachmeyer has been

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really good this year. You know, I know a lot

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of people are your fans think he was snubbed for

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that award. I might agree with them too on that case,

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but I think because it's including recherd freshman too, I

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think that's probably why Bear Bachmeier wasn't among I believe,

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like the five finalists they have for that award.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So who would he have replaced?

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Speaker 3: De John Lee Alabama cornerback Malachi Tony, Miami wide receiver

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Drew mess to Maker, North Texas quarterback CJ. Carr Notre

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Dame quarterback Julian Saying Ohio State quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good question. I think all those guys

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you can argue did have better years in Barrett Bachameer's

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is what you're trying to argue here, is it? Is

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it the best true freshman or is the best redshirt freshman?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: So I think, honestly, if you're giving it's the best

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true freshman, I would argue probably mal Kai Toni, the

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wide receiver at Miami. He was absolutely incredible this year

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and he might have entered next year as the second

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best receiver in the country behind Jeremiah Smith. Honestly, that's how.

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Speaker 4: Goody was this year.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, if you're giving as the best true freshman,

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I would definitely at Beart Bachmeyer somewhere in the top

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five true freshmen that we saw in college football this

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year because he was outstanding, honestly, and I believe because

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we're letting rechard freshman also be finalists for that award.

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That's why you see guys with Julian saying CJ. Carr,

637
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Drew Messmaker, even though they're in their second years in college,

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there's still technically freshman as recier freshman. That's why you're

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seeing those guys included for that war too.

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Speaker 2: LJ.

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Speaker 3: Martin is healthy game versus Texas Tech. He was not

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all that healthy in the in the Tech game the

643
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first go.

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Speaker 2: Around in Lubbock. How is he graded out for PFF

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versus his peers?

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Speaker 3: And he's he was the Big twelve offensive player of

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the year him being one hundred percent healthy.

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Speaker 2: How impactful could that be? Two questions there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, really impactful. You know, he's been a really good

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running back all year for BYU. He's been outstanding at

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delivering yards after contact. So having him healthy and fully

652
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healthy out there is huge for BYU. But once again,

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it all stems to the offensive line. Because I don't

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care how good LG. Martin is, and he is a

655
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fantastic running back, it's hard to do a lot if

656
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your offensive line gets dominated the way BYUS did in

657
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that last loss to Texas Tech. So having it fully

658
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healthy is absolutely massive and that will be huge tomorrow

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in that game. But you need the offensive line to

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perform a lot betters. I believe b YU only had

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sixty seven rushing yards against Texas Tech and that loss.

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That was a season low for b YU in that game.

663
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So it's to be better with LG More unhealthy. But

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it won't be that much better if the offensive line

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can't perform a lot better than what they did in

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the last game.

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Speaker 3: We got Pro Football Focuses next. Chadwick here on ESPN

668
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:16,519
the Fan discussing college football BYU versus Texas Tech. Texas

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Tech is a twelve and a half point favorite in Arlington,

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and what makes you believe that by you could maybe

671
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pull this off? Like, do you have any tenets? You're like, Hey,

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this would have to happen in order to be for

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BYU to bet Tech on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think two things. I think both of the balls

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on the trenches. One, like I mentioned time and time again,

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the office one has to play better. You know, you

678
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,640
can't have Bear Bachmert getting hit as much as he did.

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I believe you got hit five times in that Texas

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Tech game, which is the season high for BYU and

681
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against season low and rushing yards too, so by all accounts,

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is not a great day for It was the worst

683
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game of the year for BYU's offense this year, that

684
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offensive one has to perform better and the other side too.

685
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Texas Tech has been running a lot of gap scheme

686
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runs this year, and I think b YU has don

687
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a great job to set that. It wasn't as good

688
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in the last game he played against them, but I

689
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don't think the BU defense is that bad honestly. In

690
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that game, I think it just kind of got tired

691
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out from the offense not doing anything really for their game.

692
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So play team football, you know, like the last game

693
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they had in that one too, which that was a

694
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huge play in that game. If you stop the run

695
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for Texas Tech and force Baron Morton into obvious passing downs.

696
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He has not been that great this year, and I

697
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think BYU might have the quarterback advantage honestly in this

698
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game a Bear Bachmeyer over Baron Morton. But you've got

699
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to make Texas Tech rely on their quarterback because if

700
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they do, that's an avenue for BYU secondary, which has

701
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been really good over the middle of the field all year.

702
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That's an avenue for them to play a lot better.

703
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So I think the BYU linebackers are kind of spotlighting

704
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in this game. They need to be able to stop

705
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the run and not let Texas Tech run all over

706
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them because if that does happen, it could turn into

707
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a low scoring game. And maybe bear Backmeyer can have

708
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a few magical plays in him and just barely edge

709
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out Baron Morton in that regard.

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Speaker 3: If you look at nil offerings, I mean this is

711
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kind of a David versus go Liar type of Texas Tech.

712
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Speaker 2: I think spent a reported twenty.

713
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,039
Speaker 3: Eight million, BYU was at most ten million, and so

714
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,599
obviously boy is a heavy dog in this game. But

715
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,679
they're gonna need their best players to play at the

716
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:16,639
at their in their best game of the season order

717
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:21,039
to beat Tech, who have been per pff bo's best

718
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:24,440
offensive in defensive players thus far this season, like top

719
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,079
three or four guys, who have they been?

720
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I don't know havet You don't have

721
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,519
the great in front of me, but I can tell

722
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:32,719
you the Lja Moran has been phenomenal, Bear bach Mark

723
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,159
has been phenomenal. I know, Bruce Mitchell, their center has

724
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:36,920
been one of the highest greatest centers that we have

725
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,159
in college football this year, so he's been great. He's

726
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:42,159
been a big part of that offensive line, which is normally,

727
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:43,679
Like I said, the offense line is normally one of

728
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,960
the best in the country. Just that one game against

729
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,679
Texas Tech and the best d line in the country,

730
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:50,079
they weren't as good as Defensively, it's all about the

731
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:52,639
middle of the defense. Honestly, those linebackers like Isaiah Glasker

732
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:55,320
and Jack Kelly and those guys and filed South Soathawuala

733
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,360
and Tanner Wall safety, they have been terrific too. So

734
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,199
I think the middle of Uyu's defense I've been phenomenal

735
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,599
this year. The offensive line for BOI isn't great. You

736
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:05,440
got great running back in l. J. Moran and a

737
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,079
really good true freshman quarterback in Barrett Bachmeyer. Two, they're

738
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:11,599
gonna have to play big time tomorrow to pull off

739
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,039
this game and for BA to be sent to the playoff.

740
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:16,039
It kind of sucks that BI using this spot right

741
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:18,039
now where they have to win in order to make

742
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the playoff. I don't personally think they should be in

743
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,519
that position right now. They should probably be in regardless

744
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:24,559
if they win or lose tomorrow. But that's the spot

745
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:26,119
they're in right now by the committee, and they have

746
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:28,679
to be Texas Tech tomorrow, and they need those players

747
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,599
just mentioned and a lot more of them to be

748
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:32,039
able to pull off this upset tomorrow.

749
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Speaker 3: Why do you think that BYU has to beat Tech

750
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:37,320
in order to get into the College Football Playoff?

751
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,079
Speaker 2: Is that fair?

752
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I think this is the only eleven and

753
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:46,079
one team in the College Football Playoff era that has

754
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:47,760
not been ranked in the top ten.

755
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,079
Speaker 2: What makes this year so different?

756
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's a good question. You know, I

757
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,159
personally would have them. I have them I think like

758
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,960
eight on my personal rankings. And I mean, I'm of

759
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,360
the belief that, you know, whoever makes it to conference

760
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,199
tampionship weekend should not be removed from the playoffs or

761
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,719
losing it. So if you're already in the playoff and

762
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,719
if you lose your conference title game, you shouldn't be

763
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,880
removed because I think it's a reward for what you've

764
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,639
done all year to be able to play in that game.

765
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,039
You should not be punished for playing that game. So,

766
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:16,719
for example, like Alabama, if they lose tomorrow Georgia, I

767
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,400
would not remove them for the playoff because they're in

768
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,880
the playoffs already. I would already have YU in the

769
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,159
playoff two, and I would not remove them if they

770
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lost Texas tack again and finished off eleven and two.

771
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,039
So I can't answer for the committee, but I can

772
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:31,519
tell you right now the fact that BYU is already

773
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:34,480
out of the playoff at number eleven. They need to

774
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:37,079
win tomorrow. If they lose, there's obviously no way they're

775
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:38,840
going to move up into the top ten. And you

776
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,880
have to move into the top ten in order to

777
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,320
make the playoff as in that large team. So the

778
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,960
only way for BYU to make the playoff tomorrow is

779
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:49,239
to have an automatic qualifier by beating text Attack and

780
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,320
winning the Big twelve if they if they lose the

781
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,360
Text Attack, there is even though I would personally put

782
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,920
them in, I'm sure you would put them in. I'm

783
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,119
sure all your listeners put them in. The committee has

784
00:37:57,159 --> 00:37:59,039
proven time and time again they will not put in

785
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BYU if they move Texas at tomorrow.

786
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: It's funny, look, we get into conspiracy theories as to

787
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:09,000
why by US on the outside looking in, whether it's

788
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:12,760
like brand equity right conference affiliation b YU was an

789
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,360
independent for a long time. Some people will throw out

790
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,719
the faith element, religious elements. Some people will say, hey,

791
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,559
b Yu, just they just haven't been in a power four.

792
00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:26,159
They haven't been in the power four power five world

793
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:31,000
long enough to have the the equity. The other theory

794
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:36,000
is Mark Harlan uh the the eighty for Utah. You know,

795
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:38,280
you take into account all of his comments about he

796
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,000
feels like the BYU Utah game was stolen from Utah

797
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,320
at at in Salt Lake last year and has never

798
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,239
been all the all that friendly or positive towards b Yu,

799
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,280
even in the ensuing years b Yu, by the skin

800
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,800
of their teeth, they think maybe beat Utah the year

801
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:58,159
that he's not advocate. What do you chalk it up to?

802
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,639
When you hear all those things? Obviously a lot of conspiracies,

803
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,159
how valid are they?

804
00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 2: But how do you chalk it up?

805
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,519
Speaker 5: You know, I don't think the committee has any you know,

806
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:10,559
I don't think there is a conspiracy or anything like

807
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:12,599
that to keep schools like BYU out of it. I

808
00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:15,760
think there might be inherent biases that the committee members.

809
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:18,119
Speaker 2: Have and you know what they're from? Yeah, one, Where

810
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:19,320
where would those stem from? Them?

811
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: What are the inherent biases, the human fallibility anecdotal element

812
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:24,679
of it all.

813
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, for example, like a program like Notre Dame, right,

814
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:31,199
you know, we always affiliate them because they're one of

815
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,840
the greatest programs in college football, right, we always affiliate

816
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,599
them with success and if they go since they're right

817
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:38,760
off ten straight wins, even though I would argue those

818
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,400
ten wins aren't as impressive as what BYU has done

819
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,239
this year. Who's eleven and one by the way, this year,

820
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:48,039
that's probably why they're getting over a BYU. I don't know. Again,

821
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:50,280
I personally would have BYU the top ten. I think

822
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,039
the fact that they're eleven to one, like you said,

823
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,360
the fact that they their only losses on the road

824
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,039
to a top five team in the country by then

825
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,320
their own committee's rankings, the fact that they beat the

826
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,719
top fifteen team by the committe rankings in fact going

827
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,320
to be another top twenty team in Arizona and Utab

828
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,360
obviously the two top twenty season just mentioned by the

829
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,920
committee's rankings. And some other great wins too, like obviously

830
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,800
they got a wins over Cincinnati on the road too,

831
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,119
thought it was a really good win. Again, I don't

832
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:17,000
personally get it. Why BYU is being disrespected like this

833
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:19,400
and not in the top ten, But that's how the

834
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,880
Committee's done it. I can't answer it to you know,

835
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,679
any conspiracy theories of what the Committee's doing right now.

836
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,400
All I can tell you right now is that I

837
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:29,599
very much disagree with how BYU has been treated so far.

838
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:32,440
And again, I think tomorrow should be all about seating

839
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:34,400
for BAU and Texas Tech. I think both of them

840
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,559
should be guaranteed to make the playoff. But the way

841
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:39,000
the Committe's ranked right now by us pretty much is

842
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,039
a de facto playoff game for BOYU tomorrow.

843
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.

844
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: BYA Football is number six in the country against the

845
00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:47,280
spread this year the Vegas spread the lines.

846
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: How do you evaluate that number six?

847
00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:52,079
Speaker 3: Texas Tech, by the way, he's number one in the country,

848
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:55,199
Ohio State's number two, Utah State, number three, North Texas

849
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:58,840
for Vanderbilt five. BYU's nine and three against the spread,

850
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,440
Sandy UO State's at seven, Western Tech, Kentucky eight, Western

851
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:07,800
Michigan nine, Hawaii ten, Alabama is actually eleven, oh Iowa twelve,

852
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,239
South Forward to thirteen, Toledo fourteen, and the Central Michigan fifteen.

853
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: What do you make of that stat you're a man

854
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,000
of metrics.

855
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it says a lot to the program

856
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,800
Kalina Stockey's built and honestly, the expectations for b what

857
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,239
you going into the year. I mean, I'll admit it

858
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,440
to you guys. I think I went on the show

859
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,239
preseason and you guys asked me, like, what are yours

860
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,880
your outlooks for the team this year? And I said

861
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,119
six and six, seven and five maybe, like I thought,

862
00:41:31,159 --> 00:41:33,639
you know, with all the Jake Wrestloff stuff going on,

863
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,440
and how I was very much worried about the quarterback

864
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:37,800
room going into I was like, yeah, they have a

865
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,480
lot of talent which will drag this team to a

866
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,920
bowl game, but I don't know at quarterback they have enough.

867
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,199
And Bear Bachmeer has proven me wrong and the entire

868
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,840
BOUS team has proven me wrong. Kalinastockey's proven me wrong.

869
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,559
And credit to them. Man, this is two years in

870
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:50,480
a row now where I've been shocked by how good

871
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,039
BYU has been this year. Maybe that's another part of

872
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,039
it for the committee is that you know, Ba he

873
00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:56,920
didn't enter this year, is the top twenty five team

874
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,639
in the country. Notre Dame did enter as a top

875
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:00,760
ten team, and you know, maybe that's why the committee

876
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,440
has kind of taken too long to get adjusted to that.

877
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,119
But I think, yeah, that statue has told me nine

878
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:08,800
to three gets has spread as Vegas too, being like, yeah,

879
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,559
we don't really believe in BYU right now, but they

880
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:13,440
continuously have proven them wrong time and time again and

881
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:16,400
what like three quarters of their games so far this year,

882
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,760
and we'll see if they can do it again tomorrow.

883
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,239
And again, it sucks. That's the fact of a playoff

884
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,159
game for b YU. But you know what, at least

885
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:23,960
you're in that spot this ye're in a spot where

886
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,639
you can win and get in the playoffs, whereas other

887
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:29,880
schools like Miami for example, they might be screwed. Right,

888
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,920
So I think BYU at least has the opportunity to

889
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:35,280
win and get into the playoff, whereas other schools that

890
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,519
are on the outside looking at right now, they don't

891
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:38,400
get that opportunity.

892
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 3: Max Chadwick here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network representing.

893
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,519
Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus.

894
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 3: Max, best way to support you, what you do, how

895
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,519
you do it for all of our listeners, your platforms

896
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:52,400
where we can follow you and consume your content.

897
00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate that. I host the PFF College Football Show,

898
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,400
which is on YouTube and anywhere you get your podcast too,

899
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,880
and we're doing a live show. We did one live

900
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,280
show today actually going over the top recruiting fives and

901
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,480
the top recruits in the country, and then another live

902
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:10,079
show on Sunday morning at ten am me Fron time,

903
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:13,880
breaking down every single conference title game in its entirety,

904
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:17,840
and of course reacting live to the updated playoff racket,

905
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,000
which will be ten am Eastern Time. I believe this

906
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:23,320
is a what eight am or seven am Eastern time

907
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,719
for you guys out there in Utah. So yeah, I

908
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,320
can't wait for it. I mean, we're getting very very

909
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,599
close to the playoff right now. It's kind of feel surreal.

910
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 3: Crazy times in the college football world right now. Max Chadwick,

911
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,280
ladies and gentlemen, thanks for joining us. Great segment as always,

912
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,400
Thanks Ben.

913
00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: There you have it.

914
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: That's Pro Football Focuses, Max Chadwick and great segment, great commentary.

915
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,320
Andrew Peterson. I want to bring you in loop you

916
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,320
in here and get your.

917
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 2: Thoughts on it.

918
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,199
Speaker 3: Anything that stood out to you in that interview that

919
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,000
you want to piggyback off of great segment with Max

920
00:43:56,119 --> 00:43:58,800
Chadwick of Pro Football Focus, and it was brought to

921
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you by Dental pros of you Dentalprosofutah dot com.

922
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Speaker 6: Well, the thing that you guys talked about at the

923
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:08,440
end there. I like his comment that maybe it's the

924
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,599
starting point where Byu is like, this is he's He's right.

925
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:14,280
This is the second year in a row that Byu

926
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,039
was shocked the nation and shocked everyone. To be honest,

927
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:19,400
I don't think anyone expected Boa to be eleven and

928
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,000
one this year. Nobody expected them to go eleven and

929
00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:28,679
two last year. I'm just wondering, does if Byu is

930
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,360
able to to keep the core together, say you've got

931
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,719
bear Bachmeers, say l J. Martin comes back, does b

932
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,239
YU get their respect going into next season, or does

933
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,800
something happen again where everyone finds a way to not

934
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:46,519
believe in Byu. I think, honestly, the real, the real,

935
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:54,360
the real villain here isn't necessarily a conspiracy theory. It's

936
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,599
the preseason poll and the fact that the College Football

937
00:44:56,599 --> 00:44:59,960
Playoff Committee is not working hard enough, in my opinion,

938
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:02,360
in to do anything other than look at the ap

939
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:04,840
pole a couple of weeks before their show and then

940
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:05,440
go off of that.

941
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an intriguing situation, no doubt about it. It's

942
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,719
a confusing situation for many of Kugarnation. You just want

943
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,840
to make sense of it all. You just want transparency.

944
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,719
You want accountability in life, don't you. I mean all

945
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,400
of us want transparency, accountability until we're the ones that

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had maybe you have to be held accountable for actions

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or decisions, right, but they should, you know, they're the

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ones that hey sign up to be committee members. There

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should be a bit more. I want to hear from

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each and every one of them and see how they voted. Well,

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I want That's what I want to see. I want

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That's what I want to see.

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Speaker 6: What I want the College Football Playoffs show to be

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is film of them actually in their discussions, kind of

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like we're getting film of the referee reviews, the official

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reviews during games in the ACC. I think they're having

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the actual like fans get to hear what they're saying.

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I think the Big Twelve is doing that soon. I

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think we should do that with the Playoff community discussions.

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Put out the film film their discussions, film how they

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come up with these rankings so that we actually have

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some transparency.

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, guys, let's take a brief time out.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back. Great segment with Max Chadwick.

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