Speaker 1: It's the lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and carn
Speaker 1: s e O and JP Sorrow. He's a lapsed fan
Speaker 1: and all my years and wrestling.
Speaker 2: I never seen anything and it's the laps fan man
Speaker 2: like the one in the ring. Forget about Sado.
Speaker 3: He the real king of swing.
Speaker 2: When the bell goes in the kick like me throwing
Speaker 2: in the corner, but gets rash like stick even Jerry
Speaker 2: King gets take off. The crowd nodded in his head
Speaker 2: like its Steve low Brown. Would you get low down?
Speaker 3: We go even high up?
Speaker 2: Flipp you on your head, but you know cool driver,
Speaker 2: you speak more and Dragon spits fire, give you more
Speaker 2: shock than when he treats higher drop a more truth
Speaker 2: than the con of sniper unless you with a coconut.
Speaker 3: Roddy Pipper Jack a JP.
Speaker 2: He like j h D drop the cupcakes and gold
Speaker 2: the brain Bob means the best podcast. Frost start the
Speaker 2: close cloud if you are it is a flass sicond pose.
Speaker 4: It is a new year, it is a new decade.
Speaker 4: It is a new x here at TLM dolls. Yes,
Speaker 4: it is welcome to twenty twenty five scause it's kind
Speaker 4: of wild.
Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking Actually, you know, TLFX actually
Speaker 2: isn't done yet. It's not over yet. Do you know
Speaker 2: why why? Because the anniversary is May twenty eighth. Well,
Speaker 2: that's true. That's that's it. So it's TALFX until May
Speaker 2: twenty eighth.
Speaker 4: It's TLFX until we get crowned Best Wrestling Podcast by
Speaker 4: the Sports.
Speaker 2: Podcast A wells damn straight?
Speaker 4: I mean, is this not the most like perfect thing
Speaker 4: to fall out of the sky and into our lapse
Speaker 4: on a yeel where in so many ways we're reflecting
Speaker 4: on what it's all meant and we're embarking upon a
Speaker 4: new year here, and we do want to, right off
Speaker 4: the top, send a wholehearted thanks to everybody on social
Speaker 4: media who's indicated to us that they have voted for us.
Speaker 4: We want to kick off this mailbag show. And believe me,
Speaker 4: santas Sac has been bursting over the holidays. It has
Speaker 4: been months since we've gone through the best missives from
Speaker 4: any fan base on any podcast that has ever existed
Speaker 4: on the face of God's green Earth. Indeed, I'm going
Speaker 4: to get to business here because that's the way to
Speaker 4: start the year, right. You start the year by tidying up,
Speaker 4: don't you?
Speaker 2: Boss.
Speaker 4: You start the years making sure everything has its place,
Speaker 4: and then as you head out into a new year,
Speaker 4: you don't feel like vestiges of the year prior are
Speaker 4: laying about everyone, keeping you stuck in a prior mode.
Speaker 4: That's not what we do here, not at all. But
Speaker 4: this is urgent because the time to vote is rapidly closing.
Speaker 4: We got word that we were nominated as finalists in
Speaker 4: this series of awards, which is run by a sports
Speaker 4: podcast group. They do like an annual award thing called,
Speaker 4: you know, the Sports podcast Towards. It's pretty self explanatory. Yes,
Speaker 4: And the voting will close January thirteenth.
Speaker 2: Oh wow. And if you're out there within.
Speaker 4: The sound of our voice and have seen our tweets
Speaker 4: and our entreaties that we tried to plaster all over
Speaker 4: not only our socials but the podcast feed as well
Speaker 4: as the unwrapping played out to record success this this
Speaker 4: Christmas season, yep, you do need to act, and you know,
Speaker 4: because it's a popularity contest, you do need to tell
Speaker 4: everybody you know to act as well, even if they've
Speaker 4: never heard the show, but if they care about you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's not one of those types too, where
Speaker 2: you can vote and vote and vote, right, it's only
Speaker 2: one vote per person. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 2: I'm not sing like per email, I should say.
Speaker 4: I think that's how it works. I've hesitated to vote
Speaker 4: myself because that's a little weird, but yes, you do have.
Speaker 2: I voted for us, absolutely.
Speaker 4: It's all my emails, so you know then, so yeah,
Speaker 4: you know the answer to the question, did you try
Speaker 4: to vote with the same email twice?
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like I did it. You know,
Speaker 2: I did it a while ago. I did it when
Speaker 2: we first did it, and I don't really remember, but
Speaker 2: I feel like that was the case.
Speaker 4: You know, when we took a step in this direction,
Speaker 4: it wasn't even clear to us that this is something
Speaker 4: that the broad populist decides that this was a popularity
Speaker 4: contest because you had to submit, you know, like an
Speaker 4: application and sort of give them samples of what you
Speaker 4: thought your best stuff was to make the cut, and
Speaker 4: you sort of go into that with this sense that, Okay,
Speaker 4: there's actually going to be a judge that decides best podcasts.
Speaker 4: So that sounds like that sounds like something we can win,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, right, But if it's a if it's
Speaker 4: a numbers game. Then unfortunately, we've got to marshal the resources,
Speaker 4: just like we do every time around this year. When
Speaker 4: you know, the past couple of years there's been a
Speaker 4: live show, which there won't be this year coming up
Speaker 4: in association with WrestleMania, we go a whole hog.
Speaker 2: We don't leave any.
Speaker 4: Stone unturned, right pounded the pavement and getting the word out.
Speaker 4: We don't want to leave anything on the table when
Speaker 4: it comes to numbers games, and so we're going to
Speaker 4: need everything you can muster here in the new year.
Speaker 4: Make it your resolution to get the coach here much
Speaker 4: needed recognition on the year of TLFX for Best Wrestling
Speaker 4: Podcast in the Sports Podcast Awards twenty twenty five. It's
Speaker 4: Sports Podcastgroup dot com is the url for the organization
Speaker 4: that puts the awards on and then it's pretty easy
Speaker 4: from there to find the twenty twenty five Sports Podcast
Speaker 4: Awards and then the best Wrestling category. We've also put
Speaker 4: the link up several times in our social media channels
Speaker 4: X in particular, and so we thank everybody and have
Speaker 4: been sure to shout out everybody, whether retweet or a
Speaker 4: like or a fist pump on social for doing what
Speaker 4: it takes, because it's the Boss Man just illustrated. It
Speaker 4: isn't just a one click thing. It does take a
Speaker 4: little bit of inputting of information and such to get
Speaker 4: your vote across the transom. But look, we've got the
Speaker 4: fans that are willing to go that extra mile to
Speaker 4: deal with that inconvenience. Yes, and I think it's I
Speaker 4: don't know, it feels right, boss, It feels like it's
Speaker 4: time to proved to motherfuckers that like, the only reason
Speaker 4: we don't have all the awards is because we don't
Speaker 4: bother most of the time.
Speaker 2: It's not even trying to nothing to prove. It's more like,
Speaker 2: now's the time to show the world, and show the
Speaker 2: world what I mean.
Speaker 4: I think on the New Year, it's always healthy for us,
Speaker 4: let alone for the solar system at large, to be
Speaker 4: reminded what it is we're trying to establish here.
Speaker 2: To show the world that there is only one all right,
Speaker 2: that there is only one that when it comes down
Speaker 2: to it, right, when it comes down to putting together
Speaker 2: the history, putting together the story, and most importantly, being
Speaker 2: able to more accurately than not not by any sort
Speaker 2: of pretense on our part, but to accurately get in
Speaker 2: the minds of these fuckers. There's none out there. It's
Speaker 2: not possible. It's method acting, yes, And you know, and
Speaker 2: if you're not listen, if you're not if you're missing
Speaker 2: out on this again, We've said it a million times.
Speaker 2: We're here. We're always here, right, we are. We are
Speaker 2: mother and father, and we are always our arms and
Speaker 2: our doors are always open to embrace you when your
Speaker 2: time has come. That's right. I mean in a weird
Speaker 2: way too, It's like, you know, we're we're also Saint
Speaker 2: Peter at the Gate, right, we're welcoming you into to
Speaker 2: to u a higher a higher level of living and
Speaker 2: and and being, particularly for the wrestling fan exactly. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you're and hey, you know what, though I've seen
Speaker 2: some of these emails Tiven for non wrestling fans, they're
Speaker 2: out there and bless their hearts, you know, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of them. Categories in the Sports Podcast Awards Best
Speaker 2: Comedy Podcast, Hello, Best overall podcast. Hello. But it's wrestling,
Speaker 2: so no one's going to give you. Yeah, you don't
Speaker 2: get to be the best of other things when you're
Speaker 2: you know, we're in the we're in the bastard step
Speaker 2: child category. Exactly.
Speaker 4: Let's practice what we preach. If we're gonna mock a
Speaker 4: wrestler for trying to write a memoir, for example, that
Speaker 4: they trick themselves into thinking anybody but a wrestling fan
Speaker 4: is going to buy and enjoy. We can't just as
Speaker 4: well turned around and pretend that we can step outside
Speaker 4: our bounds for recognitions. It's there, of course, and we're
Speaker 4: blessed to have it, but we also make no allusions
Speaker 4: as to what base it is that we're seeking to
Speaker 4: firm up and give sort of an outlook that allows
Speaker 4: them to live with some self respect. Yeah, after having
Speaker 4: been bitten by the bug of one of the most
Speaker 4: ludicrous industries to ever exist, and it just gets more
Speaker 4: and more ridiculous all the time, and we just get
Speaker 4: more and more ramped up to do what we can
Speaker 4: to put the lapsed lens on it all. You do know,
Speaker 4: of course, that the live calls are going to be
Speaker 4: rocking this year on Patreon, because we've got the Netflix
Speaker 4: raw that we're going to cover. We've got Saturday Night's
Speaker 4: main event, which apparently is going to be quarterly, including
Speaker 4: one coming up the end of January. Yes, Jesus fucking Christ,
Speaker 4: get some letters. Hearing the feedback show about that. How
Speaker 4: you feel in coming off that thing? It kind of
Speaker 4: feel good. I mean I don't have any lingering negativity
Speaker 4: towards it at all.
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know about like actual negativity. I
Speaker 2: would say that it you know, they could have done.
Speaker 2: I feel like they were too. They were a little fearful.
Speaker 2: I think Trips was a little fearful in actually going
Speaker 2: full fucking hog into what Saturay Night's main event was.
Speaker 2: I think there were some opportunities that were missed. I
Speaker 2: think no graphics really affected my entertainment of it. And then,
Speaker 2: you know, but it was good. It was fine. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what. The highlight of it Jesse Ventura. So
Speaker 2: that's it for me. He was amazing, absolutely, absolutely, and
Speaker 2: apparently we'll be back. And what do you know? It did?
Speaker 2: Used to be better?
Speaker 4: Yep, because when you bring someone in cold who probably
Speaker 4: hasn't watched more than ten minutes of professional wrestling in
Speaker 4: twenty years, and he can say things on commentary that
Speaker 4: make you actually care about the match in a way
Speaker 4: you haven't in twenty years. That's what we've been saying
Speaker 4: since twenty fourteen. Exactly the instincts that were drilled into
Speaker 4: people who were good enough to be on national television
Speaker 4: and professional wrestling just aren't there in the volume and
Speaker 4: quantity they need to be in the current crop, and
Speaker 4: it's not their fault. They do what they have to
Speaker 4: do to thrive in the business conditions that they're handed. However,
Speaker 4: that does not mean that the way of institutionalizing, I
Speaker 4: guess is one way to put it. These guys in
Speaker 4: the past wasn't better, wasn't superior, and didn't produce an
Speaker 4: instinct in the performer, the wrestler, the commentator or whatever
Speaker 4: that just makes it more satisfying to watch. That just
Speaker 4: makes it easier to watch you in it instead of
Speaker 4: takes you out of it every ten minutes. So big
Speaker 4: ups to the body and big ups to the thesis
Speaker 4: of the lapsed fan. As Saturday Night's main event returns,
Speaker 4: then we get the rumble, and then you know what
Speaker 4: the deal is, and we're gonna go extra hard around
Speaker 4: WrestleMania because we're not going to Vegas. So of course
Speaker 4: we're going to service the patree, the patreon we haven't
Speaker 4: in years for Mania, and as far as live shows,
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean we're taking twenty twenty five off. We've
Speaker 4: got our eye very strongly on doing maybe a summer
Speaker 4: thing around Summer Slam in the New York City area.
Speaker 4: We're particularly strong in the East Coast. I think we've
Speaker 4: demonstrated that to ourselves and everybody else, and so maybe
Speaker 4: that's maybe that's the play we'll see. I want to
Speaker 4: stay tuned for information in that as we go. And
Speaker 4: we're really excited here in the first episode of twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five as we turn the page in so many
Speaker 4: ways to bring it the conclusion of this episode, an
Speaker 4: update on a near and dear Solar System member. These
Speaker 4: mail bag shows, Boss, of course, they're about in the
Speaker 4: Solar System and how valuable a part of the ecosystem
Speaker 4: they are, how they are into the gasoline to the
Speaker 4: whole upper. You've heard us talk about our good friend Gabe,
Speaker 4: who's been in the show a bunch of times. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we've told you before about the podcast the Whole Ballgame
Speaker 4: that he started with fellas fellow Solar System member Blake,
Speaker 4: about baseball, kind of taking a lapsed lens to baseball.
Speaker 4: You've heard from them in the year before Gabe had
Speaker 4: health challenges. We shared a lot of info over the
Speaker 4: weeks on the show about his gofund me as he
Speaker 4: wanted to wunn open heart surgery. And we're proud to
Speaker 4: say thrilled to say that Gabe is not only back
Speaker 4: on his feet, but sounds amazing, sounds just as he
Speaker 4: did before the procedure. And we saw it to it
Speaker 4: over the holiday season to reconnect with Gabe now that
Speaker 4: he's feeling up to it, and just to kind of
Speaker 4: get get a report back on what it was he
Speaker 4: went through and what it is boss his experience can
Speaker 4: tell us about how we should proceed in the new year.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry say that again, you went out there for
Speaker 2: a moment.
Speaker 4: Sure, just his experience and what it tells us about
Speaker 4: how we should proceed in the new year.
Speaker 2: Oh, indeed, absolutely, I think that's I think that's important.
Speaker 2: I think I think Gabe has a lot to say
Speaker 2: in that regard, and he will and do what he
Speaker 2: does and enlighten us very much.
Speaker 4: And that'll be coming your way here at the end
Speaker 4: of the episode. So we do want to let you
Speaker 4: know that if part of your new year's resolution includes
Speaker 4: not only getting right with living a moral life, which
Speaker 4: we might be able to help with, probably not, but
Speaker 4: maybe to the fallen angel that is the wrestling fan,
Speaker 4: we can offer some support if it's not already too late.
Speaker 4: If you're going to hit the gym, everyone does this
Speaker 4: right New Year. You've probably had some runs with this
Speaker 4: right January first, baby, hit the gym?
Speaker 2: No, okay, me either. Good.
Speaker 4: I think that has a I think that has more
Speaker 4: to do than we probably realize with. Why we can
Speaker 4: cast so hard and be so relatable to so many
Speaker 4: is because we didn't have this period of time where
Speaker 4: we decided we were going to be someone we're not,
Speaker 4: which is one way to.
Speaker 5: Go at it.
Speaker 4: But we got to tell you. We have to tell you, folks,
Speaker 4: if this is the year, if this is the time
Speaker 4: when you're going to try to be a protein guy,
Speaker 4: be a gym guy or gal and make that happen,
Speaker 4: there is a lapse to prove way to do it. Because,
Speaker 4: for all we just said, our good friends at Titan
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's exactly what it makes the most perfect sense,
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Speaker 2: Oh exactly. I mean, listen, you're all going to try. Yes,
Speaker 2: You're all gonna try yes, and I and I don't
Speaker 2: fault for that.
Speaker 4: And there's virtue in that. There's virtue. Indeed, thankfully it's
Speaker 4: not New Year's Revolution season.
Speaker 2: Well that would suck. I mean they didn't bring that
Speaker 2: one back yet, so we can count our blessings, don't.
Speaker 2: They do it with something? Though fairly recently, like in
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, they did something New Year's Resolution.
Speaker 2: Is it Day one you're thinking of? No, they actually
Speaker 2: called something New Year's Resolution, but I don't remember what
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 4: They do, I believe use that for NXTX supercards. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and they have New Year's Evil. Maybe they call it
Speaker 4: something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Can I can I just stop for god's sake,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be evil. It's gotta be you know, medieval
Speaker 2: like knock it off. So we were counting our webs
Speaker 2: what it is. Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Well, they're
Speaker 2: not gonna level up. They canceled that show, which is
Speaker 2: like an NXTB brand if you can believe it. And
Speaker 2: we're entering the era of Netflix. Man, this is gonna
Speaker 2: get really gross. I'm sorry to tell you, but it
Speaker 2: does not look like they are even thinking for a
Speaker 2: second about how to allay the fears of those who
Speaker 2: know that while in any given week or any given month,
Speaker 2: the archives aren't the most watched things on Peacock or
Speaker 2: the former WW network, the erswild WW network, why would
Speaker 2: they That wouldn't make any sense. Why would Why would
Speaker 2: anybody watch a show from ninet eighty five and great
Speaker 2: enough volume to register? But over time, as we demonstrate
Speaker 2: the existence of our podcast demonstrates, over time, what matters
Speaker 2: to the is the archive. Over time, what the archive
Speaker 2: is all that matters because that's that's your legacy, right
Speaker 2: is it that hard to understand? Over time?
Speaker 4: Is knowing what matters is knowing that everything is there
Speaker 4: to rewatch or that if you lapse in your watching.
Speaker 2: This is so big.
Speaker 4: I don't think they ever think about this. If somebody
Speaker 4: is following WWE and for whatever reason doesn't for six months,
Speaker 4: five months, four months, it happens to all of us. Well,
Speaker 4: it doesn't happen to Toss, but you get my point.
Speaker 4: It happens still a lot of people. Well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's true. We sort of force you to not fall
Speaker 4: into that pattern, but you would. Yeah, those people are
Speaker 4: still gonna subscribe if they know they have access to
Speaker 4: something that can catch them up when they feel like
Speaker 4: they have the time or when they feel like, you know,
Speaker 4: poking through. And they may never do it, but they'll
Speaker 4: still pay for it. And that instinct is going to
Speaker 4: be extinguished if the archive isn't full and robust. So
Speaker 4: the people that you lose, you're gonna lose like typical
Speaker 4: Netflix style churn, Like I don't care this month. I'm
Speaker 4: not subscribing, literally not. I don't understand. I really don't,
Speaker 4: because it's there, it's done. We're not asking We're not
Speaker 4: asking them to digitize a vault and put a lot
Speaker 4: of legwork in. We're asking them to not be a
Speaker 4: bunch of bitches is what we're basically not to be
Speaker 4: fucking idiots, fucking morons exactly. I mean, but again, you
Speaker 4: know what, if they want to do it, fine, I've
Speaker 4: got an archie right and by now they've forced us
Speaker 4: to game plan, and we've amassed such a mighty system,
Speaker 4: in such a mighty interconnected network, you're not gonna fucking
Speaker 4: put us on our back foot.
Speaker 2: We went through all this with Peacock.
Speaker 4: Remember we did the whole head fake, like, well, we
Speaker 4: almost mocked the idea that we have to go out
Speaker 4: of business because the network isn't there anymore, give me.
Speaker 2: Or because Peacock's gonna be a shit show, which it
Speaker 2: kind of is.
Speaker 4: We need the archive, we need the archive, but our
Speaker 4: fans need us to have the archive more than we
Speaker 4: need the archive.
Speaker 2: Do you see that?
Speaker 4: Do you see how that works? And so if you're
Speaker 4: gonna if you're gonna push us, if you're gonna fuck around,
Speaker 4: you're gonna find out and it's gonna be great for
Speaker 4: us because not only will there be the pull of
Speaker 4: hearing us review the show, it'll always also be like, oh,
Speaker 4: I can't even watch this motherfucker anymore. So now I'm
Speaker 4: doubly interested in revisiting it because.
Speaker 2: Yep, I can't. We have no way to watch it
Speaker 2: unless you have your own copy of it.
Speaker 4: So I guess game over. Thank you, is what I'm
Speaker 4: trying to say in this new normal where smackdowns going
Speaker 4: to three hours.
Speaker 2: As well Netflix. So it's a shit show.
Speaker 4: So we're excited and we're bullish going into this huge
Speaker 4: deal for WWA and the upcoming live call can be
Speaker 4: yours for your Patreon dollar. You know this, you know
Speaker 4: the story, you know the score under the cinemat. We
Speaker 4: dropped one of the most epic episodes we'll ever do
Speaker 4: on one of the most epic movies ever made for
Speaker 4: Christmas Day. Yeah, and boss, I'm sure the Solar systems
Speaker 4: wondering what's in your head for twenty twenty five regarding
Speaker 4: UTC for your ep and above tier dollar.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of good stuff, you know. I've
Speaker 2: got a whole slate of possibilities and I'm not going
Speaker 2: to give any away just yet. We've got classics. We've
Speaker 2: got one, honest to god, We've got one that I
Speaker 2: I just found out about, just found out about. Wow.
Speaker 2: You found out that it qualifies. I found out that
Speaker 2: it's a movie like that. Yeah, that qualifies, not even
Speaker 2: that it qualifies. But I never heard of this movie
Speaker 2: and it stars Humphrey Bogart. All Right, that's all I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say. And I was like, holy shit, and it's
Speaker 2: gonna happen. It's gonna happen this year. I know, I
Speaker 2: do want to say, I do want to apologize. You know,
Speaker 2: I know I did promise a complete Christmas movie season
Speaker 2: this year. It just, you know, when when I started
Speaker 2: digging into the Wizard of Oz, it just was taking
Speaker 2: up too much time and it was too important for
Speaker 2: me to do that one. And I also needed a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks just off of the James Bond you know,
Speaker 2: the James Bond journey, and then scheduling it just was
Speaker 2: it was weird how it just was not meant to be. Well,
Speaker 2: it's such a short season too, and it was very short,
Speaker 2: three and a half weeks of Christmas. Fuck that you
Speaker 2: had basically like a week, you know, right, I mean
Speaker 2: that was like I was kind of you know, I was,
Speaker 2: I wanted to start, you know, slowly the week after
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving and then kind of dig into stuff. And then
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute's Christmas. It's like it's
Speaker 2: already Christmas, Like there's no time to do anything else.
Speaker 4: And let me cut into that, because I can attest
Speaker 4: to having done the sid tribute for instance, like what's
Speaker 4: great about it? What keeps it going? Like if this
Speaker 4: wasn't true, it would be it wouldn't be long before
Speaker 4: it isn't worth doing the show anymore, honestly right its
Speaker 4: What has to be true for TLF to be TLF
Speaker 4: is that when we find ourselves going down a rabbit
Speaker 4: hole and things start taking on a life of their own,
Speaker 4: and the tail end of the process just keeps getting
Speaker 4: elongated and elongated til we can barely see it on
Speaker 4: the horizon, we have to know that you are going
Speaker 4: to keep handing us the ball to run to the
Speaker 4: finish line, no matter how far away it may be.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: We have to know that we've got the only audience
Speaker 4: on any podcast that we could ever hope for that says,
Speaker 4: do it, go for it, don't stop until the corpse
Speaker 4: is exhausted, don't stop until the account is serviced. This
Speaker 4: customer needs service, and this customer is a movie that
Speaker 4: the boss Man's dive for under the cinemat this customer
Speaker 4: is a tribute subject like sid for the main feed
Speaker 4: or some kind of long form journey on all of
Speaker 4: the different things we've covered over the years, and it's
Speaker 4: always the thing you go back to. It's always the
Speaker 4: thing you're glad we overdid. And by god, a couple
Speaker 4: of years pass and it seems like we underdid it
Speaker 4: every single time, right, be exactly things keep getting pointed out, tentacles,
Speaker 4: new branches on the tree that we didn't consider it
Speaker 4: first blush, even though we felt we were exhaustive and
Speaker 4: exhausted going through the process.
Speaker 2: Exactly it.
Speaker 4: But that's the virtuous cycle that makes all this worth it,
Speaker 4: and the mail bag is going to be further proof
Speaker 4: of that here as we crack it open for the
Speaker 4: first time in several months on the show. Now, we're
Speaker 4: gonna go in kind of verse chronological order. No, yes,
Speaker 4: we're going to go from most current two oldest letters
Speaker 4: this time because we're coming off the unwrappening and it
Speaker 4: was epic, and it was even more epic not only
Speaker 4: to record it, but even more epic to roll it
Speaker 4: out like we did twenty five Days of Christmas style
Speaker 4: and have Mama Sorrow in the room for the first time,
Speaker 4: and so many members of the Solar System appreciated that
Speaker 4: we're picking up on all these great nuances along the way.
Speaker 4: The silver Tuna, in a lot of ways was the
Speaker 4: care package from Saint Mary's Cathedral. Oh yes, this was
Speaker 4: something that we had a decent degree of information on
Speaker 4: while we were opening the gift on the unwrappening in
Speaker 4: terms of how it came together, But we just felt
Speaker 4: like it begged more clarification, because how do your CoA
Speaker 4: chairs end up being in position possession? I should say
Speaker 4: of an autograph picture of sid Udy signed from the
Speaker 4: church that he was trying to get people to send
Speaker 4: cases and cases and cases of Vienna sausages to in
Speaker 4: his last years on Earth. And Brandon, who is responsible
Speaker 4: I put his head together with some of the other
Speaker 4: homies out there in the Solar System. Didn't he see
Speaker 4: what make this thing happen? Was kind enough to lay
Speaker 4: out for us. Now that the gift is in receipt
Speaker 4: and it's been opened and reacted to, for all the
Speaker 4: Solar System to hear and re joice in. We shared
Speaker 4: an image of the materials on our social media accounts.
Speaker 4: I turned out to you, Boss, please convey Brandon's blow
Speaker 4: by blow for a process that only the lapsed Fan
Speaker 4: could engender someone to retake.
Speaker 2: That's that is exactly it. I mean, you think about,
Speaker 2: you think about I mean, I want to, I really
Speaker 2: am here. I would be curious, are there any other
Speaker 2: podcasts now who could elicit this kind of a response.
Speaker 2: I'm waiting and I'm not trying to. I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to toot our own horn, and I am, but I'm
Speaker 2: also genuinely curious because this is one of the most
Speaker 2: wackiest yes, and most incredibly thought out resources and dedicated
Speaker 2: right gift that I mean, the whole, the whole presentation
Speaker 2: of it was just completely just out of this world.
Speaker 4: And didn't it feel like there was some divine intervention
Speaker 4: having your mom there to explain the same way, Oh god,
Speaker 4: the significance of the shawl. If she wasn't sitting with us,
Speaker 4: we would have just put that to the side, like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I guess this is just a rapping like and she.
Speaker 2: Was excited about it, excited about it. I mean, just wild,
Speaker 2: just absolutely wild.
Speaker 1: Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys
Speaker 1: need their candy.
Speaker 6: It's the lapsed fan just because we posted a new
Speaker 6: episode of The Lapsed Fan doesn't mean we are done
Speaker 6: with the campaign to take what is rightfully ours. If
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Speaker 1: He's an Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno
Speaker 1: and JP Soro.
Speaker 2: So here we go. I knew this year I wanted
Speaker 2: to finally send a gift for the Christmas show. I
Speaker 2: was originally thinking about some w CW stickers or maybe
Speaker 2: every Raven Trading card that's been made. But after hearing
Speaker 2: part one, I love that. That's part one, by the way,
Speaker 2: it was part one where the fucking Vienna's come into play. Yeah.
Speaker 4: In fact, I just you know, I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's funny he keeps. As I was researching the interviews
Speaker 4: he did in his later years after his wrestling career,
Speaker 4: he would bring it up a lot, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's kind of a funny thing.
Speaker 2: I'll mention that.
Speaker 4: But I did not think it was going to be
Speaker 4: every single episode and it would come to characterize I mean,
Speaker 4: Vienna sausage is sid that's why you need to trust
Speaker 4: us when we do this stuff, when we do this
Speaker 4: kind of digging, because we don't know on the front
Speaker 4: end what's going to end up being the gems and
Speaker 4: the diamonds we have to mine.
Speaker 2: We have to mine. Yeah, And that's exactly exactly that's
Speaker 2: why you know. Otherwise, if we don't do that, things
Speaker 2: are less than sanguine. Things are less than sanguine and
Speaker 2: less than worth it, that's for sure. But after hearing
Speaker 2: part one of the Sid Tribute, I knew I wanted
Speaker 2: to get you a SID meal pack. Then Part two
Speaker 2: of the tribute came out and we could see, we
Speaker 2: could all see that viennas were now a full fledged gimmick.
Speaker 2: I figured every member of the Solar system would now
Speaker 2: be sending in viennas for the Christmas show. My gift
Speaker 2: would be worthless. But then I thought, what if I
Speaker 2: could send them real viennas, Sid's actual viennas from his church.
Speaker 2: I went back. I wasn't prepped for that. I should
Speaker 2: have had that. I went back. There we go and
Speaker 2: owned through part one to find the street address a
Speaker 2: name of the church Sid gives out in the interview.
Speaker 2: I google the chur church's name and the address separately.
Speaker 2: To double check that this was the right place, I
Speaker 2: navigated to the Saint Mary's of Memphis website, found the
Speaker 2: con found in the contact section, and began crafting an email.
Speaker 2: But I can't tell this church that they were indirectly
Speaker 2: mentioned on a wrestling podcast. Now that's how I hung
Speaker 2: up on. Yeah, yeah, that's how. That's how you don't
Speaker 2: get a response. I can't ask them to send me
Speaker 2: food meant for the homeless. I'm going to need to
Speaker 2: convince them. I'll have to touch their hearts to make
Speaker 2: this happen. Now, this is the time I mentioned that
Speaker 2: as a teenager, I joined the bullshit carnival. I was
Speaker 2: ushered into adulthood and taught life's lessons by such ethical
Speaker 2: athletes as Larry's Obisco. To quote Larry before you continue reading,
Speaker 2: If you want to enjoy the circus, don't peek behind
Speaker 2: the curtain.
Speaker 4: Why am I not surprised that someone who's actually been
Speaker 4: in the business was able to pull this off?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly. That's that's kind of the that that's it,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's that's who you get to to
Speaker 2: pull something, pull a caper like this off. And this
Speaker 2: is definitely a caper, hands down. I lied to the church. Wow.
Speaker 4: Wow, I wouldn't recommend that, But my God, are we
Speaker 4: the beneficiaries of it?
Speaker 2: I mean, depends on depends on how you feel about
Speaker 2: the church, you know. I guess it was in the church.
Speaker 2: It was just yeah, in general, you know. I told
Speaker 2: them about my grandfather Jack, whose parents were Italian immigrants
Speaker 2: that emigrated from Italy to West Memphis. God, this was
Speaker 2: to explain his last name in Carnassio, an Italian name.
Speaker 2: Come on, Oh, that's fucking great in case it came up.
Speaker 2: Grandpa Jack was born in Memphis and spent his entire
Speaker 2: life living by the Word of God and attending Saint
Speaker 2: Mary's Cathedral, but apparently not a registered member of the congregation.
Speaker 4: It's amazing that he told these people that this guy
Speaker 4: went to the church for years and they don't know
Speaker 4: you that you went to the church. But yeah, well,
Speaker 4: as far as they're concerned to the sky, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. When his health started to decline fifteen years ago,
Speaker 2: he moved to Florida to be closer to family. This
Speaker 2: set up distance and explained why the package would be
Speaker 2: delivered to me in Florida. Grandpa Jack is dying. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, Grandpa Jack is dying. That's going to be
Speaker 2: shorthand as the years ago. Yep, and won't make it
Speaker 2: past Christmas. As a family, we decided to have his
Speaker 2: birthday three months early, on November first, as a way
Speaker 2: to say goodbye. He loves his church so much. The
Speaker 2: beautiful columns and this is I mean, if this is
Speaker 2: the kind of email you know you send to a
Speaker 2: church if you're if you have accepted your seat in hell. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think I think the Good Lord might have a
Speaker 4: little more appreciation before the the trick starter.
Speaker 2: Than we give. I would imagine. I would imagine God
Speaker 2: has a sense of humor always. Nobody else would have
Speaker 2: a sense of humor better. Yeah, yeah, right. He loved
Speaker 2: his church so much. The beautiful columns and highclating are
Speaker 2: what inspired him to be The beautiful columns and high
Speaker 2: ceiling are what inspired him to become an architect. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, this is quote he quotes, He quotes you.
Speaker 2: He's never been shy to let anyone and everyone know
Speaker 2: that that building is the most beautiful structure on God's Earth.
Speaker 4: Why do I feel like after this call was over.
Speaker 4: The lady hung up at the church and said, something's
Speaker 4: wrong with that boy? He like, he didn't pull wool
Speaker 4: over her eyes at all. She was just like, Okay,
Speaker 4: what's wrong with that boy? Know that Carnasio is a
Speaker 4: Portuguese name.
Speaker 2: Better to just give him what he wants, you know,
Speaker 2: instead of seeing what happens if we ignore him. I
Speaker 2: asked him if they could help me with a birthday
Speaker 2: gift from my dying grandfather and hit send. Twenty six
Speaker 2: hours later, I got a reply from a woman using
Speaker 2: a private Saint Mary's email address. We'll call her Nancy.
Speaker 2: Nancy said that she would be glad to help and
Speaker 2: asked what I had in mind. God. I told her
Speaker 2: how Grandpa Jack loved helping out with feeding the needy,
Speaker 2: and how how every so often he would sneak a
Speaker 2: meal box for himself.
Speaker 4: I don't appreciate that this is somehow me okay, a
Speaker 4: fictitious person.
Speaker 2: Yet no Jew Jew this amazing. Oh my God.
Speaker 4: I invite you out there and listener to land to
Speaker 4: consider what would be like to know that possibly someone
Speaker 4: is doing this in your name without you having any knowledge.
Speaker 4: Throughout the month of November, tremendous, just tremendous. I was
Speaker 4: wondering if the church could send a special meal package
Speaker 4: and some kind of printed materials that showcase the building
Speaker 4: to comfort him.
Speaker 2: I added the print so she wouldn't just tell me
Speaker 2: to go to the grocery store. Nancy replied suggesting a
Speaker 2: prayer shawl with a card showing the church, but didn't
Speaker 2: like the idea of sending food in the mail. Well,
Speaker 2: that is just.
Speaker 4: That is not in keeping with the spirit of the
Speaker 4: pop top, not at all. Sid would not agree at
Speaker 4: all with that stance. In fact, he wants you to
Speaker 4: send food in the mail. Yeah, so we can send
Speaker 4: you an autograph picture. I brought up a donation and
Speaker 4: her opinion changed.
Speaker 2: So who's the carny really here?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: I gave her the list of items I needed, and
Speaker 2: she came up with a fifty dollars donation. I wasn't
Speaker 2: sure if all this would be worth the fifty dollars,
Speaker 2: so I took the night to think about it. Little
Speaker 2: did I know, Little did I know, it would cost
Speaker 2: me a lot more. That was just the opening bid.
Speaker 2: My friend, Hm, you're dealing with a five oh one
Speaker 2: C three. Listening to the show. That night, I was
Speaker 2: getting more ideas. What about an autograph picture? Great call
Speaker 2: I would have loved, actually an auto picture of water
Speaker 2: that would have been great too. Sure should I buy
Speaker 2: one on eBay and send him with the food like
Speaker 2: a happy meal prize? I purchased one. I purchased one
Speaker 2: on eBay, but didn't feel like he was special enough.
Speaker 4: Well, he made the right decision because he was gonna
Speaker 4: that this is the only way you could top the
Speaker 4: guy who sent us the Sid picture with peanut butter
Speaker 4: and jelly so much.
Speaker 2: Over seriously, Oh my god, you know I had forgotten
Speaker 2: about that, and I was happy about forgetting about that,
Speaker 2: and now you've reminded me that that happened. I then
Speaker 2: came up with the idea of the church signing an
Speaker 2: eight by ten of Sid. I emailed Nancy the next
Speaker 2: day and accepted the donation price. I mentioned personally being
Speaker 2: a fan of Sid beauty, and how I would be
Speaker 2: happy to make the donation in his name. See how
Speaker 2: long you waited before you mentioned Sid? Mm hmmm mm hmm.
Speaker 2: She of course knew of his passing, but she wasn't
Speaker 2: too familiar with him personally. I asked if she could
Speaker 2: write a note thanking me for the donation, thanking me
Speaker 2: for the donation, on a picture of Sid so I
Speaker 2: could hang it in my home. She politely declined, like,
Speaker 2: I'm wondering here does this? I mean, what does this
Speaker 2: woman believe?
Speaker 4: I'm telling you she's just she's doing it for karma
Speaker 4: so that it doesn't come back to bite her that
Speaker 4: she didn't help this poor child who.
Speaker 2: Clearly write his issues. Yeah. I wanted this to happen
Speaker 2: really bad. I didn't care about the food anymore. Really,
Speaker 2: I wanted an autograph picture. I not even to picture
Speaker 2: of Sid, but an aggraph picture of Sid signed by
Speaker 2: somebody else who's got nothing to do with the wrestling
Speaker 2: business whatsoever.
Speaker 4: This guy, the homie Brandon, Okay, he he started from
Speaker 4: a place of I don't want to just buy viennas
Speaker 4: at the supermarket. That's not epic enough. I want the
Speaker 4: church to send vienna's. And he got that done, as
Speaker 4: incredible as that is. And then he's like, yeah, I
Speaker 4: don't care about that anymore. They're right, I accomplished that.
Speaker 4: I don't care about that now. I want them to
Speaker 4: sign the picture, yeah, And I want them to sign
Speaker 4: the picture.
Speaker 2: Yes. Oh God, it's fucking money, money, money, money, money, money.
Speaker 2: I wanted this to happen really bad. I didn't care
Speaker 2: about the food anymore, really I wanted to I figured
Speaker 2: I had one last shot, and asking before Nancy would
Speaker 2: probably would maybe bail on the whole thing. I quadrupled
Speaker 2: down and offered two hundred dollars for her to sign
Speaker 2: a photo for me. I explained how I wanted to
Speaker 2: be able to remember doing all this for Grandpa Jack,
Speaker 2: how it would be an honor to give it, to
Speaker 2: give to the church and have this memento. Nancy accepted,
Speaker 2: and I donated. I knew my best friend Andrew would
Speaker 2: have some kind of photo of Sid for me to send.
Speaker 2: We dug through a box of magazines and found that
Speaker 2: awesome poster of Sid in a suit. I mailed it
Speaker 2: out and asked if she could, and asked if she
Speaker 2: could make it out to Jack and his brother JP
Speaker 2: and signed it from Saint Mary's. She didn't ask any
Speaker 2: questions and said she would. I finally received the package
Speaker 2: and it was perfect. I bought a gift box from
Speaker 2: Hobby Lobby for the food and repacked everything. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they had all the food and stock or
Speaker 2: if they just bought what they didn't have. I don't
Speaker 2: know if Nancy signed the poster herself or if some
Speaker 2: underling did. I don't know if Mama Sorrow's new shawl
Speaker 2: has bad juju on it. All I know is that
Speaker 2: this was a Christmas miracle. That's right. That's right, And
Speaker 2: I'm glad you found it entertaining. Ah, I mean entertaining.
Speaker 2: That's not even the word, not even the word for it.
Speaker 2: It was. It was insane and absurd and just postmodern
Speaker 2: even it was. It was a postmodern gift. It totally was.
Speaker 2: It really was. And you know, we adore everything everyone
Speaker 2: sent us. Yep.
Speaker 4: It's it's not to say that this is like, you know,
Speaker 4: it's just the story. The story speaks to why anyone
Speaker 4: would send us anything in the first place. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: It's like, no, it's not just that people like, you know, oh,
Speaker 4: they love the podcast and they want to give you gifts.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, but no, you don't understand. It's it's
Speaker 4: about it's about using that as a as a as
Speaker 4: a springboard to create more lapsed moments. It's it's about
Speaker 4: moments we all get to enjoy. It's not just about
Speaker 4: like regaling us. Oh, man, I've looked at that picture
Speaker 4: of the Vanna's in there and the moon po ball
Speaker 4: water pash of crackers. So maybe some some raisins, as
Speaker 4: he said in one of them, which blew my mind. Raisins,
Speaker 4: what the raisins? And I just I just can't believe
Speaker 4: that it went from him saying that in that Sean
Speaker 4: Mooney interview. When I was researching, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: that's yep, writ not down that one's getting involved somehow, yep,
Speaker 4: to the church at self within a matter of months
Speaker 4: sending us cans of Viennas.
Speaker 2: Just unbelievable, unfucking believable.
Speaker 4: And if you did a reason to hang around for
Speaker 4: our interview later with Gabe, know that unlike us, he
Speaker 4: has eaten viennas. You damn right grew up on that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff, and he's gonna we got we got
Speaker 4: a whole, we got a whole fucking we got a
Speaker 4: thing of Viennas. I didn't even touch it. I was horrified,
Speaker 4: horrified to put those things in my mouth. Maybe we'll
Speaker 4: do it for a live show. Yeah, maybe maybe that'll
Speaker 4: be the thing. We'll eat a can of Vienna's life.
Speaker 2: And I guess they it spreads like I just don't
Speaker 2: give it away or don't give it away, No, don't
Speaker 2: give it away. Oh sorry.
Speaker 4: Of course ninety percent of the people probably know exactly
Speaker 4: what the HEAs like and have had it and don't
Speaker 4: think it's a big deal because it isn't. SID makes
Speaker 4: it a big deal, of course, right, But yeah, that
Speaker 4: that that to come.
Speaker 2: So we're here. Wow. I don't know what more can
Speaker 2: be said besides my god, what have we done? Yep?
Speaker 4: And what if you've done out there? We started doing
Speaker 4: these because all those years ago TLFX style, we started
Speaker 4: getting these unbelievable letters when we do shows unsolicited. Really yeah,
Speaker 4: and people were just blowing our minds by how fascinating
Speaker 4: the insights were that they could bring to the table.
Speaker 4: You've seen it on cinemat I mean, it's unbelievable how
Speaker 4: many cinophiles are on Patreon, and like, you must be
Speaker 4: so happy to know that, like when you go deep
Speaker 4: on a movie, like if there's a blind spot or
Speaker 4: if there's something, people are going to find.
Speaker 2: It for you, yep, yep, absolutely absolutely, And and I
Speaker 2: enjoy engaging I enjoy engaging with them on Patreon whenever
Speaker 2: I can, but yeah, it's great, it's great. I love
Speaker 2: there is a it's a wonderful forum. For sure. I
Speaker 2: break this rule all the time, but I do.
Speaker 4: I basically have like this soft policy of I can't
Speaker 4: read on these feedback shows all of the does this
Speaker 4: qualify for X reason emails? Because we get so many
Speaker 4: of them, and you see them all, so it's not like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: you're the person that needs to see him. It's not
Speaker 4: like everyone necessarily needs here all of them. Some of
Speaker 4: them are just hilarious though, like.
Speaker 2: I do love some of the What was one one was, oh,
Speaker 2: I know, to qualify to qualify from Russia with Love?
Speaker 2: The fact that the end of the movie takes place
Speaker 2: on the Orient Express and that the Oran Express was
Speaker 2: a tag team in the w W A. That's a
Speaker 2: pretty good one. It's pretty fucking amazing, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 4: It's like, why is the term Orient Express a thing
Speaker 4: that would cross Vince's mind when naming the tag team?
Speaker 2: But I don't think it was from Russia with Love? Though,
Speaker 2: Oh really I think it was. I mean, the Oran
Speaker 2: Express is a train and there was also murder on
Speaker 2: the Oron Express. Yep, you know there's a bunch of movies.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe maybe James Bond, but I don't I
Speaker 2: make a good point. I'd have to get some at
Speaker 2: that point, you need to find proof that. I had
Speaker 2: to find proof that that was it, Like, oh, they
Speaker 2: know'm a big fan of from Russia with Love and
Speaker 2: you know they rode the Orn Express.
Speaker 4: Yeah, tag team. So I thought there was something an
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Speaker 4: doing that. Chromas Slam, one of the best Solar System members,
Speaker 4: pointed out in our Saturday Nights Made have had live
Speaker 4: call that of all the throwback figures featured in that
Speaker 4: intro that we saw, remember that yeph the one that
Speaker 4: basically was all about nineteen ninety one and two, even
Speaker 4: though right that was hardly the heyday. The reason it
Speaker 4: was like that is because he didn't want to show
Speaker 4: Hulk Cogan. Did you realize hul Cogan was nowhere to
Speaker 4: be found in that whole thing? No Chromas Slam rights
Speaker 4: No Hogan in the intro Dot Dot Dot Brother, which
Speaker 4: is a good point. I mean, Hogan was actually in
Speaker 4: Florida walking a UFC fighter to the cage who got
Speaker 4: his ass b what exactly someone total health. There's a
Speaker 4: shooter that wants to see him and he he showed up.
Speaker 4: He showed up ten deep in terms of personal security
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Speaker 5: What do you?
Speaker 2: What's the brother? What's the disio? Right?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 4: I mean that's another thing, Like you said, they're not
Speaker 4: ready to go all the way, you're gonna act like
Speaker 4: Saturday Night's main event. Nostalgia is about anybody more than
Speaker 4: it's about Hulkgan. That's a little ridiculous, but there's a
Speaker 4: there's a there's a there there. I mean, of course,
Speaker 4: there's a million reasons why you wouldn't welcome Hulk back
Speaker 4: into the into the fold wholehearted the line. But I
Speaker 4: thought that was interesting because we're learning under the Triple
Speaker 4: AH regime, or what appears to be the Triple A
Speaker 4: T regime, that there still are some third rails, there
Speaker 4: still are.
Speaker 2: Some no goes.
Speaker 4: He's not just gonna, you know, undo every bit of
Speaker 4: bad will that Vince had towards former folks. And so
Speaker 4: I thought that was really fascinating and well observed there
Speaker 4: by Chroma slam a Neil point. Ye fan of that
Speaker 4: point today. I appreciate that, yeah, for sure, And I
Speaker 4: didn't realize it. I can't believe it. I'm sitting there
Speaker 4: watching the intro and marking and every wrestler they're showing
Speaker 4: even was like, oh, yeah, of course we got to
Speaker 4: pretend Sean Michael's winning the intercontinental title on the on
Speaker 4: the last Saturday night's main event was an important milestone
Speaker 4: on the show as opposed to the death now you know,
Speaker 4: a symptom of it at being over. But kind of
Speaker 4: in that same vein, Neil pointed out something that I
Speaker 4: thought was intriguing. Of course, Cody wore the winged Eagle
Speaker 4: belt to the ring that night. That's because it didn't
Speaker 4: used to be better. By the way, if you're keeping
Speaker 4: score at home, and he says, one of the reasons
Speaker 4: I'm inherently distrustful of nostalgia is you guys rhapsodize about
Speaker 4: the wing eagle belt being the symbol of excellence and
Speaker 4: boom times when it wasn't the belt from the landmark
Speaker 4: Cogan nineteen eighties run. Yeah, I read this one. This
Speaker 4: was actually very fascinating to me. The Austin late nineteen
Speaker 4: nineties title Rain. Yeah, it was the belt when I
Speaker 4: was a kid, and the belt when the company was
Speaker 4: in its worst shape. Creatively and financially. He also says,
Speaker 4: why not keep the big Eagle belt? I get, not
Speaker 4: the winged eagle, it's the symbol, despite what Jack asserts
Speaker 4: of the company's dramatic decline in the nineteen nineties. But
Speaker 4: the big Eagle, the Austin Rock belt, that one symbolizes
Speaker 4: the promotion at its peak. Let's say, you to start,
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I mean I understand where that's coming from.
Speaker 4: It makes that makes sense, right, I mean, the fact
Speaker 4: is that that belt literally was brought in at the
Speaker 4: very the very, very very beginnings of what would become
Speaker 4: the decline. And but at the same time, I, I, well,
Speaker 4: what what design did the what designs last lasted longer?
Speaker 4: I guess I guess the scene of design. Huh, yeah,
Speaker 4: I guess that one lasted longer. To me, it's not
Speaker 4: about last long. I think what it's about is no
Speaker 4: one has ever suggested bringing back the belt Hogan war
Speaker 4: before the winged Eagle belt.
Speaker 2: Right, well, he also had like eighteen belts that he were.
Speaker 2: He had the green strap like travesty, and then he
Speaker 2: had the then he had kind of that that weird
Speaker 2: little oval shaped thing, and oh no, then he had
Speaker 2: that that I don't know what you call it, but
Speaker 2: it was looked like the w W the end WATV title,
Speaker 2: right right. And you know, so the belts that Hogan
Speaker 2: wore when they were on fire, no one wants to
Speaker 2: bring back. And the belt that Austin wore when he
Speaker 2: was on fire. I don't ever hear anyone talk about
Speaker 2: bringing those back, which is the point. The point has
Speaker 2: never been that the belt signifies the boom period. The
Speaker 2: point has been that it's the most beautiful professional wrestling
Speaker 2: belt ever created, right because I mean it was also unique.
Speaker 2: It didn't look like any other wrestling championship belt, you know,
Speaker 2: I was very very very unique.
Speaker 4: Look no further than the fact that Cody's whole psychology
Speaker 4: about winning the world title was to do what his father,
Speaker 4: Dusty couldn't when he went against Billy Graham and the
Speaker 4: Garden in seventy eight for the belt. That's not the
Speaker 4: belt Billy Graham wore, and that's certainly not the belt
Speaker 4: Dusty would have hoisted if he became champion. It's not
Speaker 4: like Cody wanted to bring that belt back. Even though
Speaker 4: the whole idea is to do what Dusty couldn't, he
Speaker 4: wants to bring back the belt that Dusty barely sniffed,
Speaker 4: never even challenged for as far as I recall, yep,
Speaker 4: because he knows what we know in our hearts that
Speaker 4: the wing Egle belt is the only belt that has
Speaker 4: ever mattered in terms of the absolute peak of design, geometry,
Speaker 4: proportion impact. And while it might not have been around,
Speaker 4: waste set a time of record business for the WWF,
Speaker 4: it's the only one anyone wants to keep alive. And
Speaker 4: so point made. But yeah, definitely, definitely a good observation
Speaker 4: in that you got to remember, it's the end of
Speaker 4: whole comania when that belt comes out. It really is
Speaker 4: right beginning of the end, we should say. All right,
Speaker 4: so let's see. We also hear from Carlo who writes
Speaker 4: to us regarding out living Vince, and this is of
Speaker 4: course in reference to the CID tribute where we played
Speaker 4: a clip of a shoot interview remark he made one
Speaker 4: time about after leaving WWF, he would run the bleachers
Speaker 4: like he would do for his exercise, and then get
Speaker 4: to the top and spit and step down. And it
Speaker 4: was like, Vince, he was stepping on right. And he
Speaker 4: took solace in the idea that he was going to
Speaker 4: outlive Vince McMahon one day and feel like he won,
Speaker 4: because at the time of that interview he was at
Speaker 4: a very clear loggerheads with Vince McMahon. Carla makes a
Speaker 4: great observation regarding out living Vince and to bring my
Speaker 4: English to gree to bear see lago and Othello Othello Iago,
Speaker 4: not lago Iago? Did he spell it right? Oh it's
Speaker 4: a capital I I'm sorry. I thought it was a
Speaker 4: lowercase l okay Iago and othello Othello. If that thou
Speaker 4: beest a devil, I cannot kill thee he stabs Iago,
Speaker 4: Lodovico wrench his sword from him, or Othello is disarmed Iago,
Speaker 4: I bleed, sir.
Speaker 2: But not killed. M that's Vince, baby, that is Vince.
Speaker 4: Of course, sid also had that weird fucking crash out
Speaker 4: thing about the Israel character that he came up. Oh
Speaker 4: my God, and Carlosa points out Genesis thirty two, twenty
Speaker 4: two to thirty two. After Jacob wrestles with God, God
Speaker 4: gives him a new gimmick, a new name, Israel. What
Speaker 4: do you think about that? Pal mm And she wrestled
Speaker 4: with God. That's me And every time you do, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna break your body part your body apart, you worthless
Speaker 4: piece of shit. I'm not a theologian, but I think
Speaker 4: it went something like that. I mean, it's just too
Speaker 4: rich some of the things that Sit ended up saying.
Speaker 4: We also talked about it really is. I mean he
Speaker 4: was such a I mean, what a bizarre He's sound
Speaker 4: of his fucking mind, he really is. You hear the
Speaker 4: guy talk for like twenty minutes and you're like, what, Like,
Speaker 4: it's not psychobabble, it's not like he's speaking in tongues,
Speaker 4: but it's like, like, why did you say all that?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 7: What? What?
Speaker 4: What point you're trying to make there? Like I followed
Speaker 4: the words that came out of your mouth, but I'm
Speaker 4: not understanding why you said that. That's like, what am
Speaker 4: I supposed to write?
Speaker 2: How is that to follow?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: That's how he would say it. We also talk about Lambert's,
Speaker 4: which is a restaurant that, uh, that was I believe
Speaker 4: it came up. I'm not mistaken. Sid was trying to
Speaker 4: recall where he met with Eric Bischoff to come back
Speaker 4: in ninety nine. Was it a Cracker Bell or was
Speaker 4: it a Lambert's? Or maybe he met someone at a
Speaker 4: Lambert's down the street or something. Yeah, and we're like,
Speaker 4: what is Lambert? We just won't hip to it, and
Speaker 4: Blake immediately pipes up, I saw Lambert's mentioned. I come
Speaker 4: from Sykeston, which is in Missouri. Not sure if you
Speaker 4: were aware of the story of the family when Todd.
Speaker 4: I guess Todd is the progenitor of Lambert's restaurant. Of course,
Speaker 4: this is the home of the throw role. I think
Speaker 4: it's called where they actually they throw. They throw the
Speaker 4: roll across the restaurant if you put your hand up
Speaker 4: instead of delivering a basket of bread to your table.
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. It's kind of funny. Would I
Speaker 2: would love to experience that?
Speaker 4: And you tell me, would this be the story of
Speaker 4: somebody who found out a restaurant chain that engaged in
Speaker 4: such tactics. When Todd died, I'm sure high in cocaine
Speaker 4: and ludes, Blake writes, just took it. Just look at
Speaker 4: the face. Norman, the patriarch fell apart. He eventually shot
Speaker 4: himself in his driveway, but there were rolls to be sold.
Speaker 4: The later turmoil involved in one of the suns being
Speaker 4: a child sex pest gentlemen, we are beyond the looking glass.
Speaker 2: Here we are Vienna. Yeah that I'm down with. We
Speaker 2: are Vienna. And he's sent us a tweet about someone
Speaker 2: in the family and the guy who killed himself named Norman,
Speaker 2: and it says the tweet says, it's just it's just
Speaker 2: a screenshot, so it's it's kind of funny, and it's
Speaker 2: just like someone tweeted this in all earnestness.
Speaker 4: Norman got cancer and didn't want to be a burden
Speaker 4: to his family. He mowed front and backyard, washed both cars,
Speaker 4: then blew his brains out with a handgun. What the
Speaker 4: fuck Lambert's Lambert's darkness. That's right, So just the line says,
Speaker 4: throwing a roll, all right, boss. The the end of
Speaker 4: the Bond Journey hit people in the fields, Luke wrote,
Speaker 4: I wept watching this movie at the cinema. You know
Speaker 4: what movie is talking about? Take care, guess well, no
Speaker 4: time to die, No time to die. I wept watching
Speaker 4: this movie at the cinema. I wet watching it again recently,
Speaker 4: and I wept listening to this episode. Just beautifully done.
Speaker 4: Stuff boys, Thanks UTC, Yep, Matt, Hello CoA chairs. I
Speaker 4: was sick and tired of being a three sixteen tier
Speaker 4: jobber and decided to politic my way into the mid
Speaker 4: card by joining the executive producer Tear. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: if anyone Lapsed Universe or the mainstream media has picked
Speaker 4: up on this yet, but I wanted to share a
Speaker 4: quick observation about Chapel Roane. Do you know Chapel Roane
Speaker 4: Boss Chapel ron No, I don't know a singer.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: At the roughly fifty one second mark in her hit
Speaker 4: single Pink Pony Club, she says club exactly like lapsed
Speaker 4: Bruno Club, Merry Christmas in.
Speaker 2: That that would be CLAHB Club. I have to listen
Speaker 2: to it. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think she's from like Missouri. I don't know why
Speaker 4: should say it like that, but now I must find it.
Speaker 4: He also wrote back this hilarious. He writes back and says,
Speaker 4: I dropped the bisl I put Universe instead of Solar
Speaker 4: System in my email. The pain and shame never rands
Speaker 4: does not. There are proprieties around here, there are, you
Speaker 4: know etiquette. Great interview with Tony Van Silva, which you've
Speaker 4: heard by now, what a story that was?
Speaker 7: Boss?
Speaker 4: Finding about this guy as you're researching the Bond films
Speaker 4: knowing he was a grappler and having no idea about
Speaker 4: anything further about him. But the man was alive. And
Speaker 4: when the man is alive, boss, that's when we really
Speaker 4: start doing some damage.
Speaker 2: Gotta give you know, gotta gotta give it a shot,
Speaker 2: you know. There I listen. I reached out to Joe
Speaker 2: Fowler that time, try to get to try to see
Speaker 2: if I could get get in touch with him. He
Speaker 2: never responded, and you know, just lucked out, lucked out
Speaker 2: that he that he was as cool as a fucking cucumber.
Speaker 2: Oh so ready for something like this. Yeah, And I'm
Speaker 2: happy that he you know. And then I mean, and
Speaker 2: let me tell you this. So I I told him,
Speaker 2: you know, I on Patreon, I posted all those pictures,
Speaker 2: all those pictures.
Speaker 4: Of him, of him black and white in the wrestling trunks,
Speaker 4: just shooting, you know, catching his catch can yep.
Speaker 2: And I said, and I asked him. I asked him,
Speaker 2: I said, you know, hey, because it's like I thought
Speaker 2: it'd be fun when I was designing whatever the the
Speaker 2: you know, poster idea was going to be for the episode,
Speaker 2: Like I was like, you know, it'd be fun to
Speaker 2: have an actual, an actual photo of him instead of
Speaker 2: you know, the ones like a photo of him wrestling
Speaker 2: if you had them. And so I just askedim, I said,
Speaker 2: you have a picture of you I could use as
Speaker 2: the as the poster for it. And he sent me
Speaker 2: ten pictures amazing from his illegitimate wrestling days, from his
Speaker 2: legitimate wrestling days and from his uh stunt stuff. Like
Speaker 2: it's just it's absolutely spectacular, and they're beautiful, beautiful pictures.
Speaker 2: So really, I can't. I'm eternally grateful that that not
Speaker 2: only that he was he was cool enough to come
Speaker 2: on and and talk with us for an hour, but
Speaker 2: also the fact that he is like, you know, let
Speaker 2: me know if you need anything else and uh and
Speaker 2: and he and he had fun. Just a great, great guy.
Speaker 4: It's great when we considerenade wrestlers when they're still alive
Speaker 4: instead of after they've pack.
Speaker 2: Again rediscovered them like that, we'll discover them like rediscovery.
Speaker 2: Fuck rediscovered discover If we don't exist, no one knows
Speaker 2: the story of this guy's wrestling career, and no one
Speaker 2: cares no and and and this guy's fast, and he's
Speaker 2: got so many stories. I don't think that I I. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I forged you the story that he told me. Well,
Speaker 2: I got me a MeMail he people should know this.
Speaker 2: After the interview dropped, he wrote you a follow up
Speaker 2: because this guy loved the fact that someone cared enough
Speaker 2: to reach out and hear him out.
Speaker 4: Yep, amazing. He wrote Hi, just to say thank you
Speaker 4: for the interview. If you need any more andf'll let
Speaker 4: me know. I forgot to tell an amusing story. I
Speaker 4: was in a tag team with a man called Bruce Britton.
Speaker 4: He had no shape at all, so someone nicknamed him
Speaker 4: snake Hips. We were top of the bill against the
Speaker 4: Coggins Brothers, glamour Boys of the South, white boot trunks
Speaker 4: and jacket. Bruce arrives with an Ali Baba basket. It
Speaker 4: had a snake inside. His friend had a pet shop,
Speaker 4: so we were in the ring first to lots of booze.
Speaker 4: I lift the lid off the basket and pulled the
Speaker 4: snake out. It's limped like a piece of rope.
Speaker 2: It had died. Oh.
Speaker 4: I shook it about, draped it around Brook's neck. We
Speaker 4: both had our hands on it. I then put it
Speaker 4: around my neck. Then we looked like we fought to
Speaker 4: get the snake back in the basket and had suffocated
Speaker 4: because of the cigarette smoke. His friend was not too pleased.
Speaker 4: In nineteen seventy one, it was worth seventy dollars all
Speaker 4: the best, tony seventy pounds, all the best, Tony. I mean,
Speaker 4: do you mention getting that email?
Speaker 2: After talking to the guy for an hour, I was like,
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, why couldn't we fucking how'd you forget that one?
Speaker 2: That's a key one, man. I'm sure he's got so
Speaker 2: many more, so many more.
Speaker 4: Guy was a fucking he worked under bird as Serati.
Speaker 4: This is like a guy that anyone who knows about
Speaker 4: turn of the century shooters knew was like regarded far
Speaker 4: and wide as like the toughest guy, like Stu Hart
Speaker 4: used to talk about bird Aserati is the toughest guy
Speaker 4: he ever came up against. He was a working pro wrestler,
Speaker 4: but he was a shooter as well, you know, trained
Speaker 4: and and and we got.
Speaker 2: Pictures of him working with him, we did.
Speaker 4: He had pictures of bird as Serati unbelievable, looking like
Speaker 4: a fucking cubby broccoli or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, it's just what a.
Speaker 4: Pleasure, What a pleasure? And Christopher wrote on Patreon. I
Speaker 4: loved his honesty and humility. Zero bullshit detected. Wasn't that
Speaker 4: a surprise? You know that the guy who's a carny
Speaker 4: like that didn't feel like he lied to us once,
Speaker 4: not even close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you know, I mean, uh, he he just
Speaker 2: he was honest about it.
Speaker 9: He he.
Speaker 2: You know, he's he's he's a person and I and
Speaker 2: I do feel like that from you know, especially with
Speaker 2: researching pat Roach and stuff like that, there is a
Speaker 2: much more down to earth kind of not as you know,
Speaker 2: you know, got to protect k fabe right mentality right
Speaker 2: over in the UK regarding wrestling, right, I think they
Speaker 2: do to a degree, but they they also you know,
Speaker 2: admit what it is and they're okay with that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It really was refreshing to hear how head on he
Speaker 4: was able to tackle those questions that I've always wondered about,
Speaker 4: you know, those styles in early nineteen hundred's British club wrestling,
Speaker 4: Like what what did the spectator think they were watching?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 4: Right, did the spectator think it was real? Because from
Speaker 4: what I can tell, the style you you worked really
Speaker 4: could have allowed you to convince people it was real.
Speaker 4: But no, they were out there pantomiming. They were out there,
Speaker 4: you know, exaggerating and trying to get laughs out of
Speaker 4: the crowd as much as they were trying to get
Speaker 4: you know, a dramatic rise out of them is just wonderful.
Speaker 4: And if we did nothing else in podcasting to surface
Speaker 4: the story of a guy like that, or a guy
Speaker 4: like Tom Fleming who worked for ww F in the
Speaker 4: art department, these little moments and opportunities we've had talking
Speaker 4: to fucking Brell Kurt Fuller, mm hmm, these little moments
Speaker 4: where we actually like talk to the outside world and
Speaker 4: in some cases elevate the stories trick me under the
Speaker 4: cinemat yep of people that you never would have really
Speaker 4: known about the contributions that that would have made it
Speaker 4: worth it. Another miss of relative to a gift under
Speaker 4: our tree this year is part of the unwrappening. Remember
Speaker 4: we got a copy of the European Rampage show in
Speaker 4: Germany and one on a big wrong thing about what
Speaker 4: is European Rampage, because there's twenty three shows named European Rampage.
Speaker 4: Ben who sent the gift from Germany, was quick to
Speaker 4: follow up immediately to let us know his perspective on
Speaker 4: things and try to delineate show from show. Dear coach Chairman,
Speaker 4: this follow up emeal is necessary for different reasons. First off,
Speaker 4: you asked yourself how merry Christmas is said in German, Well,
Speaker 4: that's freu wine Hutchin.
Speaker 2: I hope I didn't screw it up too badly freu Viimhunchin.
Speaker 4: At the end of my letter that you butchered would
Speaker 4: have been it, Yeah, butcher did. All right, Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: Vine right you pronounced w V. Then you wanted to
Speaker 4: know what I had against the Pain in the Pacific
Speaker 4: series and you wanted to follow up on that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: I forget this. Let me say first, I'm a big
Speaker 4: fan for almost a decade now, and I've listened to
Speaker 4: every single TLF episode multiple times, so it's very rare
Speaker 4: that I don't dig what you, chairman offer. And I
Speaker 4: also encountered countless times when you drop something that I
Speaker 4: was skeptical about it first and then totally in love
Speaker 4: while listening to it. So that is that the only
Speaker 4: exception in all these years is the Pain in the
Speaker 4: Pacific series. I liked the North Korea episode and everything
Speaker 4: after that felt like you guys say, changiyachi, pumba gachi,
Speaker 4: and sompahachi for.
Speaker 2: Hours on end.
Speaker 4: I was very surprised myself and glad when it was over.
Speaker 4: But since you guys are so proud of it and
Speaker 4: I normally love everything you take a deep dive on,
Speaker 4: I will give it a second try in the new year.
Speaker 4: That's the spirit, Ben. But what about again, I don't
Speaker 4: know what about it?
Speaker 2: What was I don't know.
Speaker 4: He just doesn't think it's funny when we have a
Speaker 4: laugh at the way words are pretty instant Japanese. Oh,
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm yeah, okay, I mean it's fair. It's
Speaker 4: there's some legendary matches too, that we had a lot
Speaker 4: of fun with. When I think of pan Off s Pacific,
Speaker 4: I don't think of like. I don't think of laughing
Speaker 4: at the Japanese announcers. I think of a ready Savage
Speaker 4: versus nature Tenryo, like I think of power bombs where
Speaker 4: he's being stacked up like he's a junior heavyweight.
Speaker 2: I think of I think of Randy Savage not knowing
Speaker 2: who Lanny is, and Lanny, uh, you know, watching Elizabeth
Speaker 2: for Randy when he's overseas.
Speaker 4: That's where that came. From That's exactly right. I do
Speaker 4: think he Chubon is Hogan's on, but I think of
Speaker 4: a Axi boom bag, you know, I think of like
Speaker 4: I think of Hogan. I mean this step over and
Speaker 4: maybe maybe it's the you know, I don't have to
Speaker 4: go and and and re listen to it myself, but
Speaker 4: I for me anyway, it's not necessarily the im I
Speaker 4: don't want to be laughing or making fun of the words.
Speaker 2: It's really the enthusiasm. Yeah, well, the announcers and I
Speaker 2: just don't know how to say Japanese words, so murder.
Speaker 2: Every time someone does something right, it's like it's more
Speaker 2: about how they scream and and are you know, just
Speaker 2: fucking blowing blood vessels left and right that I think
Speaker 2: is hilarious just because of their intensity, Like it's amazing.
Speaker 2: I mean, and again I don't know how to say.
Speaker 2: If I knew how to say Japanese words, I would
Speaker 2: be more respectful of the Japanese words, but I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know Japanese, so it's I if I'm going
Speaker 2: to imitate a Japanese commentator, it's gonna be complete nonsense.
Speaker 2: I'm just here for at the top of my lungs
Speaker 2: Hogan stepping over into an armbar exactly. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean. We're fucking doing a drop toe hold, you know,
Speaker 2: into a yeah, like come on, yeah, when he does
Speaker 2: the fucking rolling arm bar, that's just you know, we're
Speaker 2: in a whole different level here, right.
Speaker 4: And last, but not the least, he writes, I wanted
Speaker 4: to clear up the European Rampage nineteen ninety two BS.
Speaker 4: That name was used so often by the WWE that
Speaker 4: it stays confusing to you. I noticed all that other
Speaker 4: European Rampage nineteen ninety two stuff aside. The event you
Speaker 4: got from me is a German only event from Munich
Speaker 4: which ushered in the Golden.
Speaker 2: Period over here. Very interesting as far as I know.
Speaker 4: The Colisseum European Rampage nineteen ninety two also has a
Speaker 4: Savage versus h Tobk match?
Speaker 2: Is that true? Do you resin? Yeah, yeah, we did
Speaker 2: that one. Then it has the Sid and Sid and
Speaker 2: Undertaker match, but that is after WrestleMania two.
Speaker 4: But that is from London. WrestleMania right, nineteen ninety two?
Speaker 4: You mean yeah, you said WrestleMania too. You mean WrestleMania
Speaker 4: in Russlania. Yeah, Wrestlinia eight rather, but that.
Speaker 2: Is from London.
Speaker 4: Maybe one or two of the Munich matches also made
Speaker 4: it to the other cassettes, but this event as a
Speaker 4: whole is forgotten by time and surely was never on
Speaker 4: the network because it only exists in German and was,
Speaker 4: as far as I know, only released in Germany.
Speaker 2: Back then.
Speaker 4: The ww station Tel Aviv made it a big weekend
Speaker 4: sports special. That is the version I've sent you this year,
Speaker 4: and they also released it as a German cassette. That's
Speaker 4: the version from last year. So I'm ninety nine percent
Speaker 4: sure that you have not seen the show before, you
Speaker 4: would remember a good two hours of the Finest nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety two German commentary by Karston Shah. Trust me, I think,
Speaker 4: oh yes, I think the show has some amusing moments.
Speaker 4: Hitman wants to fuck, the interview Lady the Bulldog is
Speaker 4: on all wow, good old times. Plus Germany was totally
Speaker 4: on fire with the WWF in nineteen ninety two. So
Speaker 4: if you guys want to give it the treatment, let
Speaker 4: me know in advance and I'll give you back story,
Speaker 4: translations and everything. He sounds like a deal, Ben, What
Speaker 4: do you say, boss, I think we have to put
Speaker 4: that one fast track. That motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Enough of all that, he writes, I hope you guys
Speaker 2: haven't say there were two.
Speaker 4: He gave us two, yeah, he said, the year before
Speaker 4: he gave us the one that was released as a
Speaker 4: German VHS cassette. Oh so it's that European rampage, but
Speaker 4: this is the one that aired just to say television
Speaker 4: special and wasn't released as a standalone VHS tape.
Speaker 2: Enough of all that.
Speaker 4: I hope you guys have an awesome Christmas with your
Speaker 4: loved ones. Don't stop the good work. Greetings from Germany,
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Try it again. Freud Vine Hotchen, Ben bro Vine Hotchin.
Speaker 2: I a love that international base. Yes hear it, totally.
Speaker 4: TLFHQ David writes on the Tony Van Sylvan Interview, awesome interview.
Speaker 4: Glad you gave this lovely gent the chance to discuss
Speaker 4: his career. Hoping he dusts off those boots, puts on
Speaker 4: that clown suit and does a four fifty like Andre.
Speaker 4: That is one thing we forgot to ask him as
Speaker 4: if he can do a four to fifty splash?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did he did? He was he how often and how
Speaker 2: often did he jump off the top rope to the
Speaker 2: floor head first, head first? Exactly?
Speaker 4: I love the homie Zack's insights. He immediately picked up
Speaker 4: on this one on Sid. He wrote on Patreon, someone
Speaker 4: like Sid thinks they're a great liar because of the
Speaker 4: details in their lies. M But the extra small details
Speaker 4: just clue everyone with half a brain to the fact
Speaker 4: that this fool is lying to me. Yes, isn't that
Speaker 4: the truth? Yes, he's got these big convoluted like I
Speaker 4: walked in the door. The phone was ringing, it was
Speaker 4: clicked over and call waiting.
Speaker 2: I was my phone was I had to wipe off number,
Speaker 2: the number two because it had a little there was
Speaker 2: a dead bug on it.
Speaker 4: We got some uh, we got some squawking because the
Speaker 4: Sid thing was so long. Myron isn't with that, Myron
Speaker 4: writes on Patreon. Why did they only do ten deep
Speaker 4: dives for Sid? Is it because he's not a big
Speaker 4: movie star like Hull Cogan?
Speaker 2: Yes? Is that for the win?
Speaker 3: Or what?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's the It's that is you know
Speaker 2: I I I watched that clip so many fucking times
Speaker 2: when I was a kid. It's it is one of
Speaker 2: those things that I just totally equate with Sid forever.
Speaker 2: Oh totally, almost more than almost more than uh than
Speaker 2: ruler of the world, totally. Like you know, it's like
Speaker 2: Bogus too, is from that right Bogus? Yeah?
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, Bogus, you ever pulled off Sid? And I
Speaker 10: want to know, is it because Sid Justice is a newcomer?
Speaker 10: It's because I'm not a big movie star.
Speaker 2: It's like a Hulk Hogan so good, such fucking great
Speaker 2: promot at the quote unquote press conference that Nope, that
Speaker 2: was like in a in like a cubicle.
Speaker 4: Neil makes a great point too, you know about the
Speaker 4: Sid journey, He writes, It's still unclear to me what
Speaker 4: will happen if I It's don't got me. It's still
Speaker 4: unclear to me. What will happen if I send a
Speaker 4: bunch of Vienna sausages to the middle of Arkansas. What
Speaker 4: will happen visa via the exchange of pro wrestling memorabilia?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna send him a graph picture.
Speaker 7: That.
Speaker 4: Scott Michael makes a great point. He says, another absolutely
Speaker 4: tremendous journey You've taken the solar system on with Sid.
Speaker 2: Here in the end.
Speaker 4: We may have lost Sid, but we still have Frank,
Speaker 4: who is a different type of sausage.
Speaker 2: I also lovely just fucking completely you know, like just
Speaker 2: buried Frank Journey, just completely buried.
Speaker 4: He was on Big Brother talking about how it's kind
Speaker 4: of tough being Sid's son. That's all we needed to hear.
Speaker 4: That's all we needed to hear. That's all we needed
Speaker 4: to hear. And we know exactly how he was treated.
Speaker 4: We know exactly what Sid did not do. The Vienna
Speaker 4: bat signal in the sky. What a great AI picture
Speaker 4: someone sent of us. So like the things Shining said
Speaker 4: in his hands on his hands, so, oh my god, dangerous.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: If we can start like manifesting the fucking wild scenarios
Speaker 4: we come up with that easily, we're going to find
Speaker 4: ourselves in a very difficult position.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know, speaking of by the way, I want
Speaker 2: to go back to quickly to uh the carnies are
Speaker 2: forever the guy crying. Did you see what they've been
Speaker 2: posting on Twitter? Oh my god, that's the serendipity we've
Speaker 2: been waiting for. Tell the people that so apparently I
Speaker 2: mean that the new James Bond is installed. They've they've
Speaker 2: kind of it's not happening right now. That Uh, also,
Speaker 2: what producer Brenda Broccoli, Who the fuck is Brenda Broccoli?
Speaker 2: That might just be Barbara Broccoli. That might just be
Speaker 2: a typo. And apparently like Broccoli, whoever the broccoli is,
Speaker 2: it's got to be here, he said, Like they're fucking
Speaker 2: idiots at Amazon for colling Amazon content exactly. And you
Speaker 2: know what, She's fucking right, you don't call Bond content unbelievable?
Speaker 4: Can imagine I'm so happy that she got annoyed by that. Yep,
Speaker 4: that that shows that there's still some sanity left in
Speaker 4: the world. And you can see some like total dip
Speaker 4: shit fucking digital native being like it's it's great content.
Speaker 4: We love Bond.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, listen, you know thinking about I mean, James
Speaker 2: Bond is prime content.
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, back to your fucking pocket calculator. Ye, get
Speaker 4: the fuck off the negotiating table and and buy a
Speaker 4: pair of actual dress shoes.
Speaker 2: Do we favor Just fucking put your head down in
Speaker 2: a toilet, all right, and just stay there.
Speaker 4: How about in the end when Sid was talking about
Speaker 4: on his own podcast and the end of our journey
Speaker 4: about how like there was that guy who was such
Speaker 4: a big fan that he bothered him on the phone
Speaker 4: all the time and basically tried to move in with him.
Speaker 4: Remember that, and you see Joe you can't William writes
Speaker 4: on Patreon quote Joe, you can't come here. That's what
Speaker 4: Sid said the Sidduty story William Wright's Bottle of Water.
Speaker 4: I made a sentimental comment about Sid when this journey began.
Speaker 4: I still stand by saying that his charisma was unique
Speaker 4: and phenomenal. I always was aware of the Scissors story,
Speaker 4: but not the details. That was way more fucked up
Speaker 4: than I thought. I said that it seemed like he
Speaker 4: had a loving family than Frank.
Speaker 2: Poor kid.
Speaker 4: And still, after what forty hours William Wright's of the
Speaker 4: most definitive testimony to Sid's life, I still don't know
Speaker 4: what made him tick. I'm going to have to go
Speaker 4: back and do it again and see if I can
Speaker 4: glean more clarity. Thank you, gentlemen for your service, and
Speaker 4: Maysanta Claus bring you out what you want, but what
Speaker 4: you need. That one was that was a hidden gem,
Speaker 4: that Sid thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah really was really was.
Speaker 4: Lucas mckechern. We want to thank you very much for
Speaker 4: your generous pledge and hope you enjoy the content that
Speaker 4: it affords you. Scott writes new utc Er. I was
Speaker 4: walking in my house, clicked on this, puzzled what it
Speaker 4: could be, and I stopped and stared when the boss
Speaker 4: said what it was? What do you think he was
Speaker 4: referring to.
Speaker 2: I believe I saw that. I think it was the
Speaker 2: Home Alone Christmas Special.
Speaker 4: Yes, the under the Centiment twenty two Christmas Special, which
Speaker 4: you posted without any hint in the title is time.
Speaker 2: I don't ever, that's the thing I do Christmas, the
Speaker 2: Christmas specials, never any That's what it is. It's the
Speaker 2: Christmas Special. There's no I don't want any give me clue.
Speaker 2: It's a surprise.
Speaker 4: We talked a little bit in the Sid Journey about
Speaker 4: a company that Sid worked for way later when he
Speaker 4: was doing some indie shots in his last years in
Speaker 4: the ring, called aw R and Steve and are men
Speaker 4: on the ground in Ireland quickly jumped in intoid a
Speaker 4: small correction for Jack A double A was an Irish
Speaker 4: wrestling company. American Wrestling Rampage. Okay, oh you got that straight.
Speaker 4: American Wrestling Rampage was an Irish promotion They did frequent
Speaker 4: tours of Europe.
Speaker 2: To be confused with the European Rampage. That's a whole
Speaker 2: different thing that was in America exactly. I understand African
Speaker 2: Rampage was in Columbia as well. Yes, that's what I heard.
Speaker 4: They did frequent tours of Europe with guys like Sid
Speaker 4: and Brett Hart. All the Irish wrestlers I've talked to
Speaker 4: have nothing but good things to say about working with
Speaker 4: Brett on these shows. RVD and Dupree were also semi
Speaker 4: regulars on the Irish scene, and we're champions in AWR.
Speaker 4: AWR itself was the precursor to OTT. I know, Ott. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the Irish promotion. The elite worked at Scrapplemania three Steve Wrights.
Speaker 4: If I ever choose to go bankrupt, it will be
Speaker 4: trying to get that into the hopper. Wow, all right,
Speaker 4: I want to watch one day that the Young Bucks
Speaker 4: breakthroughs as global indie sensations and an Irish wrestling promotion.
Speaker 2: Boss. I mean, honestly, I would be fascinaing to see that. Nice,
Speaker 2: I would be fastening to see that.
Speaker 4: Well, Steve, I mean Savior Pennies, So go for it.
Speaker 4: Graveyard entertainment rights. Sid is the carneist of the Carnie.
Speaker 4: That podcast proves it.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 4: Jorome writes to us, Sid's passing was the greatest gift
Speaker 4: to this podcast because this tribute served us the perfect
Speaker 4: ending to the tenth year. That montage of him talking
Speaker 4: about Vienna's was absurd, hilarious, Oh my, sad and oddly moving,
Speaker 4: tlf and a nutshell.
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I could not handle that. What were you
Speaker 2: going through? I mean I was. After about the first
Speaker 2: ten seconds, I put my thing on mute because I knew.
Speaker 2: I knew that I didn't want to be heard during this,
Speaker 2: and I also knew I could not contain myself listening
Speaker 2: to this.
Speaker 4: I lost it when he said stuff, tell somebody that
Speaker 4: can't have a can of viennas, like we all sympathize.
Speaker 2: What is this talking about? Where did you come from?
Speaker 4: It's tough Jack, Tracy, So tough Jack Tracy. There's a
Speaker 4: name for the ages. Thank you very much for your
Speaker 4: Patreon pledge. Welcome in, Jeff writes to us on Patreon.
Speaker 4: And in the end, the autograph pictures you take is
Speaker 4: equal to the.
Speaker 2: Vn as you make.
Speaker 4: Chad writes, I've got questions, had a few questions for
Speaker 4: you when you get around a Q and A one
Speaker 4: maybe somewhat relevant to the CID era and ninety two WWF.
Speaker 4: Have you ever contemplated a world boss where late ninety
Speaker 4: two Vince had made a play to get Piper back
Speaker 4: and put the world title on Piper instead of Brett.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, I've never thought of that once,
Speaker 2: Not one s has that ever crossed my mind.
Speaker 4: I don't think it would work. I don't know if
Speaker 4: Piper going in in ninety three is some is a
Speaker 4: recipe for success. I feel like we got the answer
Speaker 4: at King of the Ring ninety four what Piper was
Speaker 4: worth in that era, and it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Much even I mean he was listen his his ninety
Speaker 2: one ninety two run was obviously for me, it was
Speaker 2: just wonderful, wonderful, absolutely, because I that's that's what I remember,
Speaker 2: you know, that was right right there in that sweet
Speaker 2: spot for me.
Speaker 4: But that was a Piper who was like but transitioned
Speaker 4: out of the ring, had the hit problem, was an
Speaker 4: announcer and was forced to come off the bench to
Speaker 4: kick ass one more time. That wasn't a Piper, that right,
Speaker 4: was going to be the best you know, wrestler in
Speaker 4: the promotion, thus reigning war.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, there's a part of me that damn
Speaker 2: well wished he fucking won the Royal Rumble ninety two. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just to say that he fucking won both titles in
Speaker 2: one night.
Speaker 4: Does it get any better than when he comes out
Speaker 4: against Flair. I could watch that every day. That's amazing
Speaker 4: for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. And then because you know what, ultimately it
Speaker 2: leads into this great fucking this great bit bye bye
Speaker 2: by Bobby Heenan, because then Jake's the next one out,
Speaker 2: and so Jake then attacks both Piper and Flair and
Speaker 2: Pipe and then Piper goes after Jake, and Bobby Heenen says,
Speaker 2: it's not a skirt, it's a kilt. It's a kilt.
Speaker 2: It's not a skirt. Then Piper goes to work on Flair.
Speaker 2: It's not a kilt, it's a skirt. Wow, he goes
Speaker 2: right back to it. He goes right back to it
Speaker 2: in mere minutes. Just some of the best like it's
Speaker 2: it's you want.
Speaker 4: To say it what Bobby Heenan, Bobby Heenan's Royal Rumbled
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety two call is the greatest call in the
Speaker 4: history of professional wrestling.
Speaker 2: Yes, easily, easily, I couldn't. I you can't disagree with
Speaker 2: that easily. It's so brilliant. There's so much it's.
Speaker 5: The uh.
Speaker 2: Because he's he's, he's in the he's he's just torn
Speaker 2: on so many different areas because he does have loyalties
Speaker 2: to other wrestlers, but none are as important as Flair.
Speaker 4: He gets Flair way over, Yes, he does. I mean
Speaker 4: without him as the voice as the soundtrack to Flair
Speaker 4: coming into WWF, it would have hit the skids a
Speaker 4: lot earlier than it did.
Speaker 2: I think way way more valuable for Flair as a
Speaker 2: commentator and a financial advisor, yes, than a manager or
Speaker 2: executive consultant. No question, Well there you go.
Speaker 4: No, I haven't considered it, and I'm not sure it
Speaker 4: would work, but Piper electrified me in that era. Man,
Speaker 4: I've been considering all the options. It might not have
Speaker 4: been a bad one if they had.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you had maybe, if you had you know,
Speaker 2: Piper win. I mean, I'll tell you what, this could
Speaker 2: be interesting if Piper does win the title. But you
Speaker 2: are trying to go to Brett, have Brett win the
Speaker 2: ninety three Rumble, Yeah, and then you have Piper and
Speaker 2: Brett have a rematch'd at WrestleMania nine.
Speaker 4: But again, that's like, that's putting the title on Piper,
Speaker 4: not because we want to see Piper rain. It's it's
Speaker 4: putting the title on Piper because it's a way to
Speaker 4: get to Brett, which is great. I'm not saying it's bad,
Speaker 4: but I think what he's asking us to consider it
Speaker 4: is putting the belt on Piper to see what he
Speaker 4: can do with it.
Speaker 2: I don't think he don't much guy at that point.
Speaker 2: I don't mean ever was that guy?
Speaker 7: Not?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I think he could have
Speaker 4: been a good heel champion eighty five. Hogan could have
Speaker 4: chased him for like a year and a half and
Speaker 4: they could have made a lot more money than they
Speaker 4: did together. But at that point in Piper's career. Maybe always,
Speaker 4: if we really think about it, it was Piper's appeal
Speaker 4: was what would it look like if Piper got in
Speaker 4: this guy's face. It wasn't Piper right in and of himself.
Speaker 4: That was money. It was always what does Piper do
Speaker 4: to mister two? It was how Piper matched up with
Speaker 4: different people on the mic and in the ring. That
Speaker 4: intrigued us, not so much Piper reigning as champion, you know,
Speaker 4: and taking on all comers that I don't think that
Speaker 4: would work. It's like, you got to build up. People
Speaker 4: want to see Piper go after this guy, not build
Speaker 4: up other guys going after Piper. That just doesn't right,
Speaker 4: even if he's a gray baby face at that time.
Speaker 4: And he writes number two is the Colosseum collection still
Speaker 4: going to be a thing? You keep fucking tuned, Chad,
Speaker 4: because the video store never closes around here, and damn right.
Speaker 4: Thanks for Vienna Mania and keep up the good work. Well,
Speaker 4: thank you, pal for the letter. Christopher also writes, when
Speaker 4: this started the Sid tribute, I felt Sid wasn't interesting
Speaker 4: to cover for more than one episode.
Speaker 2: I was wrong.
Speaker 4: Sid's a TLF cornerstone, and this has proven it to me.
Speaker 4: It hit me in the ass like a shot. I've
Speaker 4: looked forward to each episode since. Yeah, because it's not
Speaker 4: that Sid in and of himself, deserves like this. It's
Speaker 4: a Sid is It's so TLF like who he was
Speaker 4: and the way he talked and the way he decided
Speaker 4: to move through the world is just exactly what we're
Speaker 4: out to analyze on this show. Like he's not a
Speaker 4: SID tribute wouldn't really make sense. I don't think on
Speaker 4: any other podcast or any other wrestling news thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, you do it.
Speaker 4: He dies, of course, but his career doesn't really warrant
Speaker 4: examination unless you have the peccadillos we do about the business,
Speaker 4: you know, and look for the things we look for,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, he's the fucking the
Speaker 4: ultimate gold mine, which is another ruzon detra for us.
Speaker 4: Adam writes, the other podcast are competing for who's going
Speaker 4: to be number two? Number one is already written in stone.
Speaker 4: He also writes SID culturally in twenty twenty four, Vienna
Speaker 4: sausages child neglect being on the cover of Art of
Speaker 4: Rap Albums thoroughly dissected by the best goddamn podcast out there.
Speaker 4: That's how we're living boss going into twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, so we're flowing.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: When I was going through some of the opponents that
Speaker 4: SID acrossed in that last decade on the indies, one
Speaker 4: of them was Big Larry, which I was not aware
Speaker 4: was a former wrestling name of the current Sammy z
Speaker 4: Ain of WWE and Sam from Michigan was quick to
Speaker 4: mention on Patreon Jack casually dropping a Big Larry reference
Speaker 4: and not mentioning that he would go on to be
Speaker 4: Samy's Ain as hilarious. I will, I do not know that,
Speaker 4: So that wasn't me being cute with it.
Speaker 2: Wait, what I don't understand.
Speaker 4: Big Larry was a former name of Sammy's ain. Oh
Speaker 4: and when we were reading some of the guys sid
Speaker 4: wrestled on the indies, Big Larry was one of them.
Speaker 4: And I think Sam thought I breezed by it, knowing
Speaker 4: full well who he was, when I didn't. He provided
Speaker 4: a great YouTube link where apparently, I mean, I don't
Speaker 4: know what to make of it. He's speaking in almost
Speaker 4: like a like a give accent, and he's it's it's
Speaker 4: it's Sammy's Ain trying to pass himself off as someone
Speaker 4: who's not a Caucasian, which I don't know if you
Speaker 4: it's very I don't writ anything about this gimmick, but
Speaker 4: it is very strange and very against type, and I
Speaker 4: would urge folks to check it out. I love more
Speaker 4: color on Big Larry was all about who apparently getting
Speaker 4: color what right Urban Douglas is. He's getting green. He
Speaker 4: came in big with a recent pledge on Patreon and
Speaker 4: is now entitled to all kinds of good He's mister
Speaker 4: fake entertainment. It goes for him too, as he's up
Speaker 4: the pledge significantly. Matt Anderson knows where it's at, and
Speaker 4: now he's ep in style and in substance work great
Speaker 4: midget rights to us. WCW had a standard CGL policy. Yes,
Speaker 4: we have folks in the solar system that know about
Speaker 4: life insurance boss and work with insurance. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: we have so many. He Sid made a third party
Speaker 4: over action claim high level and without the complaint. WCW
Speaker 4: insurance Company attempted to claim SID was an employee of WCW,
Speaker 4: thus the fellow employee exclusion was applicable. But SID was
Speaker 4: ten ninety nine, so the exclusion was not applicable. Hence
Speaker 4: WCW was granted coverage.
Speaker 2: Got that, No, but sure, thanks for the clarification.
Speaker 4: That's one man, you know, no matter how many times
Speaker 4: I read over stuff about the insurance, it's it's very hard,
Speaker 4: yeah to sink in. But yeah, so SID is trying
Speaker 4: to claim like he he wasn't. Wait a minute, hold on,
Speaker 4: there's an exclusion not applicable. There's an exclusion to what
Speaker 4: though attempted to claim Sid was an employee of WCW. Okay,
Speaker 4: So the insurance company of WCW was trying to claim
Speaker 4: he was an employee because apparently if they could prove that,
Speaker 4: they wouldn't have to pay as much or they wouldn't. Oh,
Speaker 4: you couldn't argue that Sid wasn't paid by what they
Speaker 4: paid WCW. Okay, this is correctact. Remember that they're like,
Speaker 4: we already paid WCW, and Sid's like, well, I don't
Speaker 4: work for WCW. So whatever clause you think means that
Speaker 4: I get paid what I'm paid just because what I
Speaker 4: deserve to be paid because you paid WCW doesn't apply
Speaker 4: because the way wrestling works, I am not an employee,
Speaker 4: So I'm not like you know, somebody that I can sue.
Speaker 4: I'm like a third party of this whole thing. I'm
Speaker 4: not an employee of WCW. The WCW gets paid for
Speaker 4: the injury and then give some to me. No, I'm
Speaker 4: on the outside of this whole arrangement. They got paid
Speaker 4: for revenue that they can claim they lost because I
Speaker 4: couldn't perform for them, but they didn't share any of
Speaker 4: it with me. He did get something, but he didn't
Speaker 4: get as much as he wanted, or something like that.
Speaker 4: So God damn, I'm just glad that work Greate Midget
Speaker 4: is out there the next time we have an insurance issue.
Speaker 2: That's all I have to say.
Speaker 4: Okay, but I hope for anyone that was confused by
Speaker 4: that part of the CID journey that what I just
Speaker 4: read to clarify something, or rather, Jared writes to us.
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Speaker 4: I believe it's ca Hall McGonagall. I think that's how
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Speaker 4: Alex Or Ali rather writes Jack and JPM. Sorry, but
Speaker 4: only a goof like Sid would have the last name
Speaker 4: Udi for a shoot, it's all, he wrote.
Speaker 2: No, I take that, baty.
Speaker 4: He also said, Hey, Jack and JP, when discussing Sid,
Speaker 4: you forgot one key thing about his appeal. At least
Speaker 4: a ten year old me, this is a huge point
Speaker 4: that I can't believe I didn't emphasize more than we did.
Speaker 4: You see, it's real simple. The body glove, elbow sleeve yep,
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I mean that's fucking critical. Yes it is
Speaker 4: his size, goofy promos that barely made sense and the
Speaker 4: power bomb were all part of the package, but it
Speaker 4: was the elbow sleeve that put him over the top.
Speaker 4: With ten year old me and my elementary school aged friends, yeah,
Speaker 4: because the body Glove was like a the the Bodyglove
Speaker 4: brand was like a thing when we were kids.
Speaker 2: I mean, I I I you know that that that
Speaker 2: that yellow logo I used to always think was some
Speaker 2: kind of I don't know what it was. I think
Speaker 2: it was like represented sid somehow. Well it was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: in a weird way, it did, Yeah, in a weird
Speaker 2: way it did. But I didn't know it was a logo.
Speaker 2: I thought it was some kind of weird like it
Speaker 2: almost look like a nipple at times, like a weird
Speaker 2: yellow nipple. And I thought it was some kind of
Speaker 2: I don't know device with that with that armband. But
Speaker 2: for some reasons, quintessential, I always knew what it was.
Speaker 4: I must have been because kids were in bodyglove stuff.
Speaker 4: But that would happen today, like you can't, you're not
Speaker 4: really supposed to. I guess think I were a Nike
Speaker 4: sneaker sometimes, but you're not really supposed to wear like
Speaker 4: you know, brands on television that haven't you know, agreed
Speaker 4: to sponsor you and to be associated with you.
Speaker 2: But right there he is.
Speaker 4: Let that hit you like a shot. Alley writes, PSJP,
Speaker 4: do us all favor and please read the following as Sid,
Speaker 4: I'm going to send you a very very short list
Speaker 4: here of things he wants you to say as Sid.
Speaker 2: Oh God, here we go. Let the monkey dance ball, water.
Speaker 8: Shawmachaels Viennis, autographed picture, wrestler, movie.
Speaker 4: Star, lovely, the Bushwhackers Win. Thank you very much for
Speaker 4: your Patreon pledge.
Speaker 2: Great name the Bushwackers Win.
Speaker 4: Jared, who I think we just heard from in the letter,
Speaker 4: Thank you very much for that pledge. Steve writes about
Speaker 4: Sid's leg break, can confirm how serious Sid's break is.
Speaker 4: My mom had the equivalent in her foot, where everything
Speaker 4: but one bone broke just before COVID shit. All these
Speaker 4: years later, it still causes her pain even with a
Speaker 4: successful surgery. Thanks for this much needed episode. Tomorrow I
Speaker 4: bury my one hundred and three year old grandmother, and
Speaker 4: listening to this has made tomorrow feel more manageable. Well,
Speaker 4: be about that ice indeed glad to be of service
Speaker 4: as always. Adam writes, I think what stands out of
Speaker 4: most TLF most is how organic and fluid it is.
Speaker 4: A two or three episode SID tribute turns into a
Speaker 4: near ten episode mini journey. Then someone else might die
Speaker 4: like OI and the cast gives him a few words.
Speaker 2: It's so true.
Speaker 4: What makes the TLF stand out is that it's consistently awesome,
Speaker 4: always funny, and no one knows where it's going to
Speaker 4: go next. Here's to another ten years.
Speaker 2: Boys. It's always about the timing. Honestly, of course it is.
Speaker 2: It's always about the timing. If someone dies, we're in
Speaker 2: the middle of something. They just no matter how important,
Speaker 2: Unless they're unless they're of something, you know, of real,
Speaker 2: real importance, you know we're not on time for that show.
Speaker 4: Look on, if Hulk Hogan died during the Lamentable tragedy,
Speaker 4: we would have known what to do.
Speaker 2: I know that would have been hard. I mean that
Speaker 2: would have been very, very hard. Paul writes.
Speaker 4: He had time code to one of the SID episodes
Speaker 4: where he quotes me saying favorite nations right and laps
Speaker 4: Hogan goes what the point about insurance? A minute ago?
Speaker 4: Andrew bakes a great point. Aren't all wrestler contracts workers compensation?
Speaker 2: Yes? The following is a workers compensation agreement wrestlers to receive.
Speaker 2: Oh my good, let's hear from Jake from Wisconsin. Hit
Speaker 2: it all right, here we go, dear co chairs. I'm
Speaker 2: reliving the thirty week journey, which I do every I
Speaker 2: guess year, along with the Stark Tour and hearing a
Speaker 2: fellow Sol's a member saying that WrestleMania eight was his
Speaker 2: go to show. That made me think of what what
Speaker 2: my go to think of what my go to shows are?
Speaker 2: Mine have to be WrestleMania three because growing up I'd
Speaker 2: always see the stair down between Hogan and Andre And
Speaker 2: when I finally got the DVD when I was twelve
Speaker 2: or thirteen years old, that hurts me. The fact here
Speaker 2: I am thinking that, you know, he's like, you know,
Speaker 2: grew up watching that show. But no, he's thirteen. If
Speaker 2: you're thirteen years old when DVDs are fucking coming out,
Speaker 2: you're I'm gonna kill you. He was born I said,
Speaker 2: right there, I was born ninety four. Fuck you, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm not.
Speaker 4: How dare you might be ten or twelve years older
Speaker 4: than the younger than I am.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, thirteen there, you'd be thirteen years
Speaker 2: old younger than I am. What And I still got
Speaker 2: goosebumps even well, I appreciate this, and I still got
Speaker 2: goosebumps even watching it all those years later and still
Speaker 2: gives me goosebumps. And my second go to show is
Speaker 2: jarr K eighty three, which I watch every Thanksgiving. I
Speaker 2: just love the dirty gritty look and I love the
Speaker 2: cage match and dog collar match. Well, all right, you
Speaker 2: won me back with all this stuff.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you when I watch star K eighty three,
Speaker 4: I can smell turkey cooking.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I can smell. I mean right, I would
Speaker 2: to me, I look at that at that building, and
Speaker 2: I it to me, it must reek of the smell
Speaker 2: of stuffing, right.
Speaker 4: Because everyone's got it on their clothes, because right, the
Speaker 4: kitchen was full of aromatic sense before you run out
Speaker 4: to the matches.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and you've got like turkey grease on your fingers
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 4: It can't help it, totally, absolutely, such an under discussed
Speaker 4: part of star K eighty three and future star Gredes
Speaker 4: for that matter, agreed just the sloppiness of the eaters,
Speaker 4: the sense baked into the fibers of their sweater exactly.
Speaker 2: And finally, my absolute go to show is not a
Speaker 2: fan favorite, and I really don't give a fuck, but
Speaker 2: it's my It's my show because it's the show I
Speaker 2: remember first seeing ever, and that's Star k ninety seven,
Speaker 2: even though I was only three years old. I can
Speaker 2: remember watching that show live on pay per view. Seeing
Speaker 2: Hogan versus Sting is what made me a lifelong fan
Speaker 2: of the sport of kings and I will always watch
Speaker 2: that show at least one year, sometimes twice. I love
Speaker 2: Austin Rock and Undertaker, but it was Hogan and Sting
Speaker 2: will always be my all time favorites because they are
Speaker 2: the two that made me fall in love with pro wrestling.
Speaker 2: Have a Merry Christmas. Love that, Yeah, I dig that.
Speaker 2: I totally dig that. That show has Mormon fuzzies for
Speaker 2: me too, for sure. I mean, you know, that's the
Speaker 2: thing you got to remember. I mean, favorite wrestlers are
Speaker 2: always about what you saw, you know, what was right
Speaker 2: there in front of you when you you know, whenever
Speaker 2: you saw wrestling for the first time, it's like it's
Speaker 2: so crucial, it's one of those beautiful things about it,
Speaker 2: and that's about the whole mess of fucking business. Yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And just see, it's so fun when you become
Speaker 4: an adult and get access to resources to be able
Speaker 4: to actually spend time figuring out why was that so impactful?
Speaker 4: Because it's not like everything I saw when I was
Speaker 4: a kid I remember fondly, So why was it that
Speaker 4: this match is the one I remember? And that's what's
Speaker 4: worth discussing as opposed to the broadstroke. You were a kid,
Speaker 4: and that's why you loved it. Now, there's a lot
Speaker 4: of stuff I didn't like when I was a kid, yep.
Speaker 4: And so what did rise to the level rose to
Speaker 4: the level for a reason, and it rose to that
Speaker 4: level for a lot of other people too. Scott Matthews,
Speaker 4: thank you very much for the pledge. We appreciate the cake. Tom,
Speaker 4: the homie, the number one Solar System member, writes TLF.
Speaker 4: He quotes something I said on the SID Tribute Volume nine.
Speaker 4: The quote is if only they knew the realities we
Speaker 4: uncover and the conclusions we are left to reach. Yes,
Speaker 4: he says, I don't suggest as lightly, but this, my friends,
Speaker 4: should be a T shirt. Tom will take it under advisement. Yep,
Speaker 4: Scott pointed out when we were going through the Fulton
Speaker 4: County court records on the sid injury stuff. Lol, we
Speaker 4: haven't tried the well meaning judge and Scott can confirm this.
Speaker 4: You know why because he happened to have listened to
Speaker 4: the UTC on Santa Claus, the movie which feature Daphne Daphne. Yes,
Speaker 4: where the judge a courting I don't remember this, but
Speaker 4: I laughed out loud and he read it back where
Speaker 4: the judge called the plaintiff Daphne guilty and I'm pretty
Speaker 4: sure he called her a fuck Yeah, so definitely not
Speaker 4: a well meaning judge there.
Speaker 2: I don't know what fucking would I remember going to
Speaker 2: court with Daphne, but yeah.
Speaker 4: It's probably when she she sued over the concussion she
Speaker 4: got in TNA. Oh maybe William Wright. Hogan's lawyer ringtone
Speaker 4: is a MIDI version of real American the vibrations of
Speaker 4: which are so intense that they shake the pull chain
Speaker 4: off the bedside lamp. Yes, I agree with that phone
Speaker 4: is almost spinning from vibrating so much when Hogan calls.
Speaker 4: I just thought there was a funny image. One of
Speaker 4: the things we do in these feedback episodes. If you're
Speaker 4: not familiar, is pass along word pictures painted by the
Speaker 4: Solar System as well. Doesn't have to just be a letter,
Speaker 4: Jeff Wright. Let's do a tribute in the style of
Speaker 4: Sid to Savage Dusty or Piper you son of a bitch.
Speaker 4: That'd be something, be something, because you know, Piper died
Speaker 4: and Dusty died before we were equipped to really go
Speaker 4: like this, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean we did, we did do tributes for them,
Speaker 2: but not we did not they were single shows. They weren't.
Speaker 4: We didn't have the hubris to think that our fans
Speaker 4: would support us going right year by this before we did,
Speaker 4: like the medical tragedy, year by year, before we realized
Speaker 4: that we could get away with really taking our time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean listen, you know, like when they died,
Speaker 2: I mean they both I think they both died. The
Speaker 2: only thing we had done of that nature was, uh,
Speaker 2: was the Main's Journey. It's just there's year two.
Speaker 4: It's such a mischievous suggestion because over the years I've
Speaker 4: always thought of that. It's just there's no hours, there's
Speaker 4: no hours in the day.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 4: Like everything feels like something we should do above and
Speaker 4: beyond what we did what we the main show, you know,
Speaker 4: So it's it's hard, but I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 4: That's all I can say. Because God help anybody else
Speaker 4: out there who thinks they're in the telling a wrestler
Speaker 4: story space. If we decide to go hard and anybody
Speaker 4: and everybody is supposed to just who happens to pass
Speaker 4: away at a convenient time for us to set aside
Speaker 4: the agenda? You know, like if Terry Funk died at
Speaker 4: another time, we wouldn't have done that, but he died
Speaker 4: at that time when you were doing the play, and
Speaker 4: we kind of didn't. We had kind of a wide
Speaker 4: open schedule with nothing that was so concrete that people
Speaker 4: would really miss it if we moved it.
Speaker 2: And it was it was, you know, and for me
Speaker 2: it was great to not have to really watch shows
Speaker 2: because I didn't have the time rehearsing the play. That's yeah.
Speaker 4: And that's what emboldened me too, to be like, you
Speaker 4: know what, let's actually do a watch a long style
Speaker 4: for the first time. Let's like let's come in cold
Speaker 4: and let's watch it like we watch cinemat movies or
Speaker 4: like we ww pay per views on Patreon now, yep.
Speaker 4: And because of that, we just could watch Terry Funk's
Speaker 4: whole career. Yeah, we didn't have to just decide, oh,
Speaker 4: we'll watch this match and we'll talk about these ten matches. No, well,
Speaker 4: we'll pretty much watch every match in promo of consequence
Speaker 4: that he ever did and the most remarkable career any
Speaker 4: wrestler has ever had, with the most diversity cross styles, geographies.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's just ridiculous what he was.
Speaker 4: However, I think back on him, I'm like, wow, that
Speaker 4: was like ten careers that we talked about basically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean no, seriously, it really was.
Speaker 4: The whole history of pro wrestling is there, from the
Speaker 4: NWA Champion era and the territories to to you know,
Speaker 4: what became of the business when he was still barely
Speaker 4: able to move but crack and Jerry Lawler over the head,
Speaker 4: you know, with three hundred people there, whether with a
Speaker 4: trash can or whatever the case is. Vipin writes, the
Speaker 4: game we play as simple. Two co chairs speak, one
Speaker 4: man listens like that, not too like that, Willie Thompson,
Speaker 4: thanks for the pledge, my friend, Cyrus the Virus always
Speaker 4: a strong supporter. Great to hear from him and thanks
Speaker 4: for the cake. Yancey writes subject line, yes, shut up,
Speaker 4: I'll take it away please.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I love a good shot up that
Speaker 2: makes me happy. Here we go, okay, co chairs, Happy holidays.
Speaker 2: After you had another six hour drive back and forth
Speaker 2: to visit my parents for Thanksgiving, a ride consisting of
Speaker 2: you guys in my ear and Vienna's in my dreams.
Speaker 2: I knew what I had to do yet again. I
Speaker 2: quit being a freeloading bitch years ago, and I'm a
Speaker 2: faithful listener. But sometimes between the journeys, the live calls
Speaker 2: and the regular episodes, my little stink hole can only
Speaker 2: take so much, and I fall episodes, weeks and journeys behind.
Speaker 2: But I persevere. I have resolve. It will be zoomed.
Speaker 2: But the long and meaty hours of content is partly
Speaker 2: why I have never made the jump to a higher level.
Speaker 2: I can barely take all of your girthy giving as
Speaker 2: is do I dare have the courage to open up
Speaker 2: a little more. But as I recently sat on my
Speaker 2: lunch break listening to the monchamen, go ahead, you can
Speaker 2: do it. Listening to the monchumen trying his damnness to
Speaker 2: get it hard, for a ride of fuck, for a
Speaker 2: night of fucking yes, and Sid telling Vince and any
Speaker 2: and everyone to shut up, and my personal favorite, a
Speaker 2: line that has stuck with me since the night my
Speaker 2: brother and I saw it so many years ago, Live
Speaker 2: I don't know shit crown Baby the Best, the Best,
Speaker 2: which I found equally cutting to Brett and hilarious for
Speaker 2: obvious reasons. I felt that tug, that little tinge of
Speaker 2: guilt yep, yep. And I'm not nearly giving back I'm giving.
Speaker 2: I'm not that I'm not given nearly back to even
Speaker 2: come close to match what you have given to the
Speaker 2: solar system and to me. And then JP starts talking
Speaker 2: about those who have pledged, always a favorite part of
Speaker 2: the episodes for me, and why people pledge, and asks
Speaker 2: us to think about the hours and hours and hours
Speaker 2: and hours and hours that go into making this wonderful
Speaker 2: piece of art. And I knew I needed to jump
Speaker 2: to a higher level. So I have not because I
Speaker 2: can handle it, not because I necessarily even want more content,
Speaker 2: not because I'm dying to dive into movies, but because
Speaker 2: I need to. I need the lapsed, and I need
Speaker 2: it bad I need that voice in my ear, that
Speaker 2: voice that makes me laugh, think, reflect, the voice of reason,
Speaker 2: a steady hand in a not so steady world. So
Speaker 2: take my measly offerings and forgive me for not making
Speaker 2: the jump Center. It feels so good to give, so good.
Speaker 2: In fact, as someone who grew up in the deep
Speaker 2: Deep South, I can't tell you how many cans of
Speaker 2: delicious and vicious piannas sat on the shelves of my
Speaker 2: pantry growing up and ended up as a snack fishing
Speaker 2: hunting game with my dad playing church softball, shout out
Speaker 2: to City's team, and other similar times. Now that I'm
Speaker 2: living in Tennessee, just a few hours from everyone's favorite
Speaker 2: church and homeless mission, maybe I'll take a trip over
Speaker 2: to West Memphis and do the right thing for those
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Speaker 4: The right thing, he writes as he bumps his pledge
Speaker 4: up to the twenty dollars executive producer tier Line.
Speaker 2: Damn fucking right, he does. Come on, folks, does more
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Speaker 4: Welcome in the big Homie, Austin King Sliver writes. During
Speaker 4: the pandemic and for a year or so after, Alamo
Speaker 4: Draft House did convert many of their theaters into makeshift
Speaker 4: drive ins. We were talking about well, yeah, we're talking
Speaker 4: about this. Yeah, by having moving projectors out on outside
Speaker 4: and using the big outer walls of the building as screens,
Speaker 4: the one in my areas seem to do very well. Yes,
Speaker 4: just bring them back. I'll put them on walls. I
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck. Yeah, I mean I see projections
Speaker 4: now on buildings that are like four K. They have
Speaker 4: like this technology nowaday just have like images dancing on
Speaker 4: fucking stone walls.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So don't get me an excuse about infrastructure that you
Speaker 4: can put it on anything. Just put a big fuck it.
Speaker 4: I don't care a big edifice. Just bring back drive
Speaker 4: ins as soon as possible, and bring them back for
Speaker 4: closed circuit events, not just movies. Bring them back for this,
Speaker 4: you know, go see the super Bowl in a huge
Speaker 4: ass parking lot somewhere with the biggest screen in the county,
Speaker 4: in the state, and let people grill, and let people rejoice,
Speaker 4: and let people recreate, and let people try to recreate
Speaker 4: the experience of experiencing something live. Right, That's what I'm
Speaker 4: calling for, the return of closed circuit Are we ready?
Speaker 4: Can we handle it? As a people?
Speaker 2: I think it's a great idea. Put it outdoors. Mm hm,
Speaker 2: you know, in warmer class and you know what, here's
Speaker 2: the thing. I mean, you know, well maybe maybe not,
Speaker 2: I don't know. But if you if you limit it
Speaker 2: to that, depending on the on on what it is,
Speaker 2: people will go.
Speaker 4: I think if you if you set up a if
Speaker 4: you set up a way to do it that's modular,
Speaker 4: that isn't a permanent, fixed screen somewhere that can't be uninstalled.
Speaker 4: It's a fucking home run because you only set up
Speaker 4: when there's an event and good enough climate to do it,
Speaker 4: and sometimes rain will fuck you up, you know. Doing
Speaker 4: the winter, I guess and really cold climates, maybe you
Speaker 4: could pull it off. Maybe people would be willing to,
Speaker 4: you know, bundle up. They certainly do it for tailgates
Speaker 4: during NFL season, right, But I'm talking big events, big
Speaker 4: boxing matches, concerts, you know, on a big screen, since
Speaker 4: money waiting to be made, and you just do it
Speaker 4: out in the middle of some field that no one's using,
Speaker 4: and you have you know, some kind of a just
Speaker 4: like you would erect the screen at raw they put
Speaker 4: the thing on the coat. Just go around the country
Speaker 4: and do it. Maybe fucking awesome, and you could franchise it,
Speaker 4: you know, like everyone can. It's not like a permanent thing,
Speaker 4: but every now and then when there's a hot event,
Speaker 4: you can make a good amount of money by being
Speaker 4: the guy in your metro area that knows how to
Speaker 4: set it up and you know, pays for the license
Speaker 4: to show it and pays for the license to be
Speaker 4: associated with, maybe like a national brand that's known for
Speaker 4: doing these things in a big way. I mean, you
Speaker 4: see the movie theaters try to do it to add revenue,
Speaker 4: you know. And I think it's cool to go see
Speaker 4: a concert in a movie theater or I've seen wrestling
Speaker 4: in m a pay per views in movie theaters and
Speaker 4: I think it's awesome. Yeah, but I think it's it's
Speaker 4: it's on a higher level if you can make it
Speaker 4: an outdoor party. Do you know what I mean yes,
Speaker 4: and everyone's got their phones so they can all bluetooth
Speaker 4: the audio. It's not like even even the audio infrastructure,
Speaker 4: which I know is a huge part of the drive
Speaker 4: in movie theater experience, you know, broadcasting it over the radio,
Speaker 4: you gott to be sitting in your car. Sometimes they
Speaker 4: get the speakers you know, actually installed into the ground
Speaker 4: and that's all pretty cool. But you don't even need
Speaker 4: that anymore.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: Everyone can just have one bluetooth in if they want
Speaker 4: to hear the audio, which is great because it kind
Speaker 4: of sucks sometimes to go to a setting like that,
Speaker 4: like to watch a game in a bar, and if
Speaker 4: you want to hear the commentary, you can't hear it,
Speaker 4: you know, but fun, I mean, what are we waiting for?
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 4: Tim Lee, thank you very much for the increase in pledge.
Speaker 4: Deeply appreciated. Pete, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: We love it. Nico always longtime support, and he's bumping
Speaker 2: it up even more.
Speaker 4: It's incredible. David Quinn, thank you for your support. Marty
Speaker 4: f thank you very much for that robust pledge to
Speaker 4: your co chairs. Daniel writes in the two KWW Games,
Speaker 4: when new entrants join the Wargames match, they actually pull
Speaker 4: out weapons from under the ring and bring them heart
Speaker 4: of the built in entrance. You can believe that's a
Speaker 4: comment on one of our War Games Survivors Series twenty
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four live calls on Patreona. They just do
Speaker 4: it like it's part of the rules of war games
Speaker 4: that you have to bring weapons with you.
Speaker 2: Just awful. And you know it used to be like.
Speaker 4: Fortuitous, even though unfortunate. Once someone would come out of
Speaker 4: the war Games with an injury because the match was
Speaker 4: pretty you know, dangerous, and you hit each other pretty hard,
Speaker 4: and you know, Hawk got carried away and JJ Dillon
Speaker 4: broke his shoulder on the doomsday device in the first
Speaker 4: war Games and that's part of the legend of the match.
Speaker 4: But now we're in an era where all the war
Speaker 4: Games injuries are ones that people inflict on themselves because
Speaker 4: they can't stop jumping off the top of the cage.
Speaker 4: Both Jimmy Usso and Bronson Reid busted their ankles diving
Speaker 4: off the cage through tables and wargames, the injuries are
Speaker 4: happening to the people who are jumping themselves, who are
Speaker 4: doing it to themselves. They're not even booking war games
Speaker 4: to have guys come out of war games worse for wear.
Speaker 4: No one's selling that they can't move for weeks because
Speaker 4: people are actually getting hurt for things they voluntarily did
Speaker 4: in spots that do not belong in the war games
Speaker 4: that you can do every other month, joke, every other
Speaker 4: show of the year.
Speaker 2: You can do that shit wargames. I don't whatever. Edward Zeman,
Speaker 2: thank you for the increasing.
Speaker 4: Said a million times. It's it's a disaster this year.
Speaker 4: When you see those injuries, it's like, this is what
Speaker 4: I'm trying to say. It is fucking stupid. This is
Speaker 4: the one match where you don't have to do that
Speaker 4: to yourself, but you already ruined it because now the crowd,
Speaker 4: the WW crowd thinks of war games is tables and
Speaker 4: chairs and shit and garbage cans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, stop doing it. They could,
Speaker 2: but that's my point. It's like down in them condition
Speaker 2: the fans had a chance to.
Speaker 4: Start, had a chance to start in the right way,
Speaker 4: and they set themselves back. Dylan Mack and Tyre thanks
Speaker 4: for the pledge. Haull Cogan writes, to be fair Billy
Speaker 4: and Flair, I still to have some trouble accept in
Speaker 4: the family name being pronounced broccoli as in the fucking vegetable. Yes,
Speaker 4: that still gives me.
Speaker 2: Positive As Billie Eilish was saying.
Speaker 4: Oh man, he was a close observer, was Hull Cogin
Speaker 4: on Patreon. The Carnies were for our forever journey and
Speaker 4: when we hit the final episode, no time to die,
Speaker 4: He writes, I remember watching this for the first time
Speaker 4: and being surprised how emotional I was at the end.
Speaker 4: It's probably because on like other Bond movies, I knew
Speaker 4: I was saying goodbye. I'm feeling the same way as
Speaker 4: I start this final Bond episode of Under the Cinemat
Speaker 4: I would say, I'm feeling like a pussy. But it's
Speaker 4: a great man once set boss. What's wrong with a
Speaker 4: little pussy?
Speaker 2: What's wrong with pussy?
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Speaker 2: Hi co Chairs.
Speaker 4: This is Chris by the way high CoA Chairs. This
Speaker 4: is directed more to JP. Not sure if this one
Speaker 4: has come up yet or it's on the horizon already,
Speaker 4: but if you didn't know, now, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: call somebody that the legendary Hull Coogan replacement Tom McGee
Speaker 4: has a part in the movie Stone Cold.
Speaker 2: Fuck the fuck? Do you know the movie Stone Cold? No,
Speaker 2: I don't want to look it up. I'm gonna look
Speaker 2: it up right now because it's Tom McGee. Fascinated. Remember
Speaker 2: we were.
Speaker 4: Walking behind Tom McGee in Las Vegas and he was
Speaker 4: vaguely he was rollerblading, and he was as thin as
Speaker 4: a toothpick.
Speaker 2: Right, he's like Batista.
Speaker 4: But they found him because that was the year that
Speaker 4: wwe like unearthed the match with Brett and put it
Speaker 4: in at the Unearthed that bullshit. They bought it because
Speaker 4: fucking Conrad and company found it and we're going to
Speaker 4: show it at the star Cast and have bretton Tom
Speaker 4: McGee do a panel discussion.
Speaker 2: It's with Brian Bosworth, Lance Henrickson, Lance Henrickson, and William Forsyth.
Speaker 2: A tough Alabama cup is blackmailed by the FBI into
Speaker 2: going undercover in a violent Mississippi biker gang. Yeah, well
Speaker 2: this is gonna be good.
Speaker 4: Tom McGee say, I'm strategic about when I violate that
Speaker 4: GtC rule. He writes, hadn't watched this movie since I
Speaker 4: was a teenager and randomly circled back to it today
Speaker 4: upon which I saw a former bearer of the torch
Speaker 4: that never was, So I had to immediately had to
Speaker 4: share this with you the infinite overseas of the Solar system.
Speaker 4: Hopefully this is news and we'll inspire a future episode
Speaker 4: of Under the Cinema.
Speaker 2: And if not, there's a character named Mountain, does Tom
Speaker 2: McGee and.
Speaker 4: That's the kind of guy man. Well, we'll never have
Speaker 4: a real good reason to dive into him because he's
Speaker 4: not in any shows. He did Japan shows that will
Speaker 4: never cover.
Speaker 2: He's done. He did eight movies little TV shows as well,
Speaker 2: did The Alligator, to the Mutation, Dragon.
Speaker 4: Fight, Alligator to the New Batch.
Speaker 2: There it is Street Night. Oh god head for this
Speaker 2: to this movie Street Night. I don't have any idea
Speaker 2: what the fuck this movie is? But he plays a
Speaker 2: character named Baby Huey me we can go, We go
Speaker 2: over days about Baby Hughey. That was that was once.
Speaker 2: That was what's your nickname? Oh Ship, It's gonna go well,
Speaker 2: oh Man, Tom McGhee.
Speaker 4: Dan coming with an important one here because I didn't
Speaker 4: realize this was out there. Unfortunately for the Sid journey,
Speaker 4: there isn't too much to it. But Dan remembered that
Speaker 4: when WW did a special countdown episode Biggest Blunders. Countdown
Speaker 4: is like a recurring series they came up with for
Speaker 4: the network. The number ten entry once was about Sid
Speaker 4: having to say I have half the brain you do
Speaker 4: to Nation Hall, and he kind of remembers part of
Speaker 4: it being Sid trying to pass it off as something
Speaker 4: that Hall and Nash told him to say, as opposed
Speaker 4: to maybe this is where this comes from, this notion
Speaker 4: that he you know, in addition to the shoot interview
Speaker 4: clips he played where he said it was a scripted line.
Speaker 4: Maybe that whole line of thought got new life because
Speaker 4: of this Countdown special. But thanks to what to Dan
Speaker 4: for pointing it out and in the spirit of following
Speaker 4: it up on a recent episode, which is always a
Speaker 4: very important part of what we do here on the
Speaker 4: on the feedback shows, Pull pulled said segment and uh,
Speaker 4: it's just a couple of minutes here we'll see what
Speaker 4: Sid does and doesn't say relative to the famous blunder he.
Speaker 5: Went on the mic.
Speaker 9: Good time for Psycho Sid.
Speaker 2: Remember they people to talk like that. Don't put your
Speaker 2: nose at my best desk. It's actually pretty funny. Then
Speaker 2: Sid woke out clips They come.
Speaker 1: Up with foot nine, six ' ten Jack huge.
Speaker 2: He is a frightful site for any opponent.
Speaker 9: His persona in Ashley Psycho.
Speaker 2: He's a psychotic, dangerous nuts.
Speaker 3: You are feared of me?
Speaker 7: Come you injected, sue a shot machine.
Speaker 5: I just don't even know if he knew what he
Speaker 5: was saying. And he just was saying it back.
Speaker 3: You are tough, but your day, but stop, stop.
Speaker 2: What you're done. You're mess with this voice. Man up.
Speaker 2: All I can say about see it. He was just dumb,
Speaker 2: sh just dumb, like a six handed monster.
Speaker 6: And I don't mean that in a mean way or
Speaker 6: a hard way, you know, Just like I said, some
Speaker 6: guys have this and some guys don't.
Speaker 9: I don't even know what he sounded like, because every
Speaker 9: time he talked, it would just tune out.
Speaker 2: It's one of those guys like you know. He was
Speaker 2: so physically.
Speaker 9: Because you talk, the more I'm laughing. If she ever
Speaker 9: sees this is probably gonna want to kill me. The
Speaker 9: blunder with Psycho Sid was handing him a microphone.
Speaker 2: I don't think Sid ever spoke one.
Speaker 3: Time without messing up somewhere.
Speaker 5: How do you.
Speaker 7: Address those skeptics, Well, the skeptics and all the people
Speaker 7: have a little bill.
Speaker 9: Let me do this live, how sorry, anybody has any
Speaker 9: doubts would get their.
Speaker 2: Answer to night?
Speaker 9: Well, I buddy, I expect there's gonna be a barn burner.
Speaker 2: Shut up, listen.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 1: Open front Paul of Nash and Nash was already dressed
Speaker 1: up the cid.
Speaker 7: Curly hair, the chin and everything and all that, and they.
Speaker 5: Were already in the ring making fun of it.
Speaker 2: Bur of fact. I'm just a complete idiot.
Speaker 5: And then Sude comes out and says, you can.
Speaker 7: Wear any Halloween costume you want to. But you know
Speaker 7: what I know, but you only half the man that
Speaker 7: I am, and I have half the brain.
Speaker 2: I have half the brain.
Speaker 3: I've got half the brain that you do.
Speaker 2: I asked him, wait, why did you say that? But
Speaker 2: he told me to say it. They tell him to
Speaker 2: say and he messed up his words. He didn't want
Speaker 2: just to make it. I can't and will not take
Speaker 2: credit for that, whatever sensation it is on the internet.
Speaker 2: I will not take credit for that. I can't and
Speaker 2: will not take credit for that, is what. That's all
Speaker 2: he says. That's that's the only thing. He's in nothing
Speaker 2: saying I'm obliged to take credit for that. So you
Speaker 2: won't you tell me what that means. I will not
Speaker 2: take credit for that. That means that he actually does
Speaker 2: take credit for that.
Speaker 4: He means blame, not credit, And I think that's part
Speaker 4: of what's throwing me off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he take credit.
Speaker 4: But it sounds like they snipped him out explaining that
Speaker 4: the whole thing. It sounds like they snipped him out
Speaker 4: saying he was handed it, and then they just have
Speaker 4: him saying I won't take credit for it because they
Speaker 4: didn't want to platform his his uh, his falsity. But
Speaker 4: I thought that was a great call by Dan there,
Speaker 4: and turns out there are a lot of funny other
Speaker 4: ones that I just didn't even know about or forgot
Speaker 4: that he said over the years. I mean, just if
Speaker 4: you just did a sizzle reel of his guttural noises
Speaker 4: you know on promos. Oh yeah, absolutely, just a fucking riot.
Speaker 2: What is he doing? He's out of his mind, he
Speaker 2: really is. I mean, he just I mean you just
Speaker 2: so when I was looking for that revolutionary thing, you know,
Speaker 2: when we were looking at the at that at that
Speaker 2: WW video of his, I was like every week he
Speaker 2: was out there in the middle of the ring just
Speaker 2: spouting nonsense for ten minutes at a time. He really was.
Speaker 4: It was unbelievable they let him do that. He's like
Speaker 4: the last guy on earth. Like that's exactly the situation
Speaker 4: you put him in if you want to bury him.
Speaker 2: You know, right or your company or company.
Speaker 4: It's been a while, but we last year brought you
Speaker 4: lapsed GPT is part of our Christmas gifts for the
Speaker 4: Solar System. One of the many things we hung on
Speaker 4: your tree. And of course we received those great GPT
Speaker 4: generated scripts from the Solar System that we read off
Speaker 4: as part of the unrapid Kaipo. The homeboy in Hawaii
Speaker 4: thought he would send us another one and we'll bring
Speaker 4: it to you now. He writes, Hey, Jack and JP,
Speaker 4: just be ready for ye who it's obvious you should
Speaker 4: be doing, which is, let's see just about everyone beside Sean. Yeah, okay, hey,
Speaker 4: Jack and JP, I created a dialogue on chat GPT
Speaker 4: that I think you guys would want to read. You
Speaker 4: can choose to read over the year if you want. Okay,
Speaker 4: Scene a backstage area. Jesse Ventura and Randy Savage are
Speaker 4: sitting at a table piled high with Mexican food.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, Savage. I've been sampling these
Speaker 2: chimney changas and enchiladas, and I gotta say, I guess
Speaker 2: they're very good, very authentic, not that I can indulge,
Speaker 2: Not that I can indulge too much. Chocolates, Chocolate's off
Speaker 2: the menu. Now, gotta watch the old ticker.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Who cares about your ticker?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think here to listen to your food reviews. Jimmy
Speaker 3: Junger's hin geladas. Step into the much your madness? Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: who don't need Mexican food to get to the top
Speaker 3: digg it. Hey, calm down, Randy, It's just food. No
Speaker 3: need to snap into it like one of your slim gems.
Speaker 4: Enter hole Covid nervously looking over his shoulder every few seconds.
Speaker 4: Well you should know it's his paranoid to brackets and he's.
Speaker 2: Going, honestly need to say something, So we'll get back
Speaker 2: on track and dial in. I love this feeling. Man,
Speaker 2: someone's lurking around here waiting to ruin me up from behind.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, this, this double biz
Speaker 2: is no joke. You all got my back? Right?
Speaker 3: Who's got your back? But the mutial man, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: You want to talk about double bizz? How about you
Speaker 3: doubled down in your own business.
Speaker 4: Yeah, entered the British Bulldog, looking early disheveled and carrying
Speaker 4: a suspicious pipe in his hand.
Speaker 2: Who this is? Oi?
Speaker 5: HOI?
Speaker 2: Where am I is?
Speaker 7: This?
Speaker 2: Is this the ring?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't know. You look good? You look good any
Speaker 2: you know? Snacks bulldog? You look like you've never been
Speaker 2: You look like you've been through a war zone. What
Speaker 2: are you doing? Just taking the edge of me biting
Speaker 2: the pipe?
Speaker 3: Don't mind me to do this? What I'm talking about, brother,
Speaker 3: we're losing focus.
Speaker 2: We need to dial in. Where's the security?
Speaker 4: I swear someone's going ater sid vicious, laughing moniacally and
Speaker 4: flexing for no apparent reason.
Speaker 2: You all think you're the masters of the universe. But
Speaker 2: ah and the master and the ruler of the world.
Speaker 2: Gods range and sid vicious thrives in it.
Speaker 3: You want to talk the MISTERSA montrer mis the cream
Speaker 3: of the crop, and cream always raises to the top.
Speaker 4: Ooh yeah, to Shawn Michaels, strolling in nonchalantly with a
Speaker 4: cocky grin.
Speaker 2: HI had news for your Jack. No, no, you are
Speaker 2: the cream. I'm trying to get this. You're just a
Speaker 2: bunch of sour milk. I had news for you again, Jack,
Speaker 2: Nobody here is gonna take a backs, he told hbk.
Speaker 2: Hey watch the news, Shawan and light Nush. I had
Speaker 2: news for you. Jack, doesn't matter. I'm the show stopper
Speaker 2: the icon, and you're all just along for the rye.
Speaker 2: You too, Jack, and you Jack, especially you Jack. Stop
Speaker 2: calling me Jack father. We'll focus man at the end
Speaker 2: of the day.
Speaker 4: Vince McMahon bursts into the room, clapping his hands together
Speaker 4: and speaking in his over the top corporate tone.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, people, let's synergize here and create
Speaker 2: a collaborative environment. So we need to realign our objectives
Speaker 2: and pivot to a win win solution. For all stakeholders.
Speaker 2: I'll stay calm. We'll circle back to the paranoia later,
Speaker 2: but for now, let's optimize the moment.
Speaker 4: Boss quickly, what is the rock who obtained a ton
Speaker 4: of shares in his recent ascent to the board of
Speaker 4: wwe have in common with the Big Show? What they're
Speaker 4: both stakeholders.
Speaker 2: I mean I should have held that go ahead. Sorry,
Speaker 2: it's almost like a double cross almost gone on.
Speaker 4: The Big Show suddenly appears out of nowhere with a
Speaker 4: cheeseburger in his handy. He casually rolls up Hogan for
Speaker 4: a three count. The referee, who also appears out of nowhere.
Speaker 4: It counts at one. At two three I.
Speaker 2: Believe actually called would have been one. Two. Ghost stops.
Speaker 2: Hord's done.
Speaker 4: Everyone in the room bursts in the laughter as hult
Speaker 4: Cogan scrambles to his feet, looking horrified.
Speaker 2: Hurrah, I knew it, I told you, brother, I told
Speaker 2: you all.
Speaker 4: Everyone continues laughing as Hogan disappears into the distance.
Speaker 2: Hi, I knew it was for you, Jack. That was hilarious.
Speaker 4: A lot of fun, A lot of fun. Thank you, Kaypo.
Speaker 4: Always great to hear from him. George writes to us,
Speaker 4: what a journey you have taken us through, and what
Speaker 4: a pleasure it has been to watch along with you lads.
Speaker 4: Being a huge Bond fan, I didn't even realize that
Speaker 4: most of the series qualified for that cinemat treatment. I
Speaker 4: had no idea about so many wrestling connections. Hopefully we
Speaker 4: can get those loose end films squared away, Bravo, chaps.
Speaker 2: It's the goal. That's the goal. You heard it here,
Speaker 2: first goal.
Speaker 4: When was Andrew Writ's Mitsuhara Matsunaga and Wang discussed on
Speaker 4: that cast under the cinemat. No time to die, of course,
Speaker 4: what's the problem, Zach writes, am I missing something or
Speaker 4: as an adult, being into slow pitch softball the equivalent
Speaker 4: of being into bumper bowling. It seems like something only
Speaker 4: for children to me. Sid Oh God, how about this?
Speaker 4: You should feel proud about this one. Robert Reynolds a
Speaker 4: couple of things he wrote on the end of the
Speaker 4: Bond Journey. One, I felt it at the end of
Speaker 4: the Funk Journey too. I'm not ready to go. And
Speaker 4: he also writes, Roger Moore has been dead for seven years.
Speaker 4: I've not seen a film he was in until this year.
Speaker 4: And yet when the newscaster announced his death, on this episode.
Speaker 4: I got a lump in my throat.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. That's service, boss, You've done service. Do what
Speaker 2: I can. That was what we want, you know, honestly,
Speaker 2: he and that was not a planned thing, Okay. I
Speaker 2: was not out there to celebrate Roger Moore. That was
Speaker 2: a thing that just happened because he's Roger Moore, right,
Speaker 2: Hall Cogin put it beautifully. Damn.
Speaker 4: I don't want this one to end, but I guess
Speaker 4: it's time to die. M then, right, So I'm sure
Speaker 4: you've looked into it. But in the next part, will
Speaker 4: you comment on the WW trying to hire Sidne too?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I included this.
Speaker 4: I couldn't find anything better about what you're talking about,
Speaker 4: he said. Pritchard has talked about it on his podcast.
Speaker 4: I can't believe WW would try to hire Sidne no
Speaker 4: too when he wasn't even mobile yet. His leg hadn't
Speaker 4: be fully healed as far as we can glean, and
Speaker 4: he just disappeared from this.
Speaker 2: Is better when he's not mobile. Maybe they try and
Speaker 2: do more with him.
Speaker 4: To poach him from like that WWA group where he
Speaker 4: did like a shot as a commissioner. Maybe that was
Speaker 4: the idea, But I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I couldn't find anything. So if anyone out there can
Speaker 4: in that loose end for us and find some instance
Speaker 4: where people talked about WW trying to recruit Sid in
Speaker 4: two thousand and two, at which point he basically disappeared
Speaker 4: from the scene for three years.
Speaker 2: I would love to hear it. Bruno.
Speaker 4: Yep, thanks for the for the cake and the support.
Speaker 4: In the three sixteen membership, Jerome puts out a fun thing.
Speaker 4: I was supposed to see Hogan and Sid at Spring
Speaker 4: Stampede two thousand before the big changeover in management, ended
Speaker 4: up seeing neither wrestle. It was my one and only
Speaker 4: WCW show. That's easy to forget. Before Russell and Bischoff
Speaker 4: came in, they were having they were going to reignite
Speaker 4: A Hogan. Remember we did that quick mention of the
Speaker 4: press conference angle where Hogan takes the spotlight. Yeah, that
Speaker 4: was building to the Spring Stampede main event that never
Speaker 4: was because Bishoff and Russo take over in early April
Speaker 4: on that Nitro and reshuffle the whole deck and Spring
Speaker 4: Stampede is the first pay per view under that new regime.
Speaker 2: That's wild, it is.
Speaker 4: Ah Ronaldi quotes from the SID Journey. Frank, I am
Speaker 4: disappointed that you got a ninety nine percent ahead instead
Speaker 4: of a one hundred and will never attend an event
Speaker 4: of yours, But I love you very much, okay. Steve
Speaker 4: writes there was meant to be a SID website, but
Speaker 4: Frank was left in charge of it. Yeah, we are
Speaker 4: the best, the best listeners. Chris writes SID as a
Speaker 4: character from a Coen Brothers would be Tex Cobbs, mounty
Speaker 4: hunter from Raising Arizona. Big badass with an awesome reputation,
Speaker 4: and he ends is running the most hilarious fashion possible.
Speaker 4: Do you know, uh, Raising Arizona.
Speaker 2: A little bit. I've seen him once or twice. I
Speaker 2: haven't seen it. It's not my favorite Cohen movie.
Speaker 4: Brian Blake, it's real Simpleton the TLF SID tribute, That's
Speaker 4: that's the truth. Read to stuff, Sam Ouie, thank you
Speaker 4: for the pledge, my friend. We appreciate it. Jeff Ruben,
Speaker 4: Welcome in to the Inner Circle. Richard Mann writes, how
Speaker 4: did Jack not bring up random task?
Speaker 2: Was Joe's son? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Random task from Austin Powers, Yeah, which we spent some
Speaker 4: time naturally talking about the Bond Journey. Yeah, Joe Son
Speaker 4: was an early early proto era UFC fighter who's in
Speaker 4: the movie. He's kind of like an odd you know,
Speaker 4: the odd job take off character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, random task.
Speaker 4: So he was he He fought in UFC and did
Speaker 4: some pro wrestling as well, and was a total pervert
Speaker 4: and ended up going to jail for like a gang
Speaker 4: rape or something.
Speaker 9: Wow.
Speaker 4: But it's like, you know, he's not it's not a
Speaker 4: bond character. So it's like a little far afield. But
Speaker 4: I should have brought it up. I accept my culpability
Speaker 4: if we ever do Austin Powers, know that I'm ready. Okay,
Speaker 4: I believe it there. I mean I knew, Yeah they're there.
Speaker 4: I think they believe they are. I don't know if
Speaker 4: all of them are.
Speaker 2: What do you mean they being Oh the Powers movies,
Speaker 2: Awesome Powers movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I also distinct. Remember at one point someone saying
Speaker 4: Austin Powers was the last movie Vince McMahon saw, or
Speaker 4: it was like his.
Speaker 2: Favorite at least we someone said that. I remember hearing that,
Speaker 2: and then we kind of always talking to moms gonna
Speaker 2: move his awesome Powers? Right, yeah, what what more can
Speaker 2: you see after that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: He said it was the greatest thing you'd ever said. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if you want to know how Vince's mind works, Josh Burr,
Speaker 4: thank you very much for the pledge, my friend. We
Speaker 4: appreciate the cake and the support, and we know you're
Speaker 4: going to enjoy it. Roberta writes in Greeting's co Chairman,
Speaker 4: just wanted to give my two cents in the Millennium Man.
Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety nine, I was sixteen years old. I
Speaker 4: was a diehard WWF fan, hated the old folks home
Speaker 4: that was WCW. But Sid maybe change the channel whenever
Speaker 4: he was on. I knew it was fake, obviously, but
Speaker 4: I still wasn't really smartened up, and I just thought,
Speaker 4: no one else in WCW does a choke slam and
Speaker 4: a power bomb. Sid still rules. I would give anything
Speaker 4: to be able to watch wrestling that credulously.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 4: Amen, Amen to that absolutely good point. Jeff writes, Okay,
Speaker 4: co chairs, just tell me how much a podcast if
Speaker 4: the Adventures lapsed Michael G. Wilson and lapsed Jesse would cost,
Speaker 4: so I can let the bank know these excessive charges
Speaker 4: to Patreon aren't fraudulent. The Adventures of Michael G. Wilson
Speaker 4: and Jesse the Body of Ventura. Hey, Michael, Michael, what
Speaker 4: you're doing over there?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 2: I'm just well, I'm wondering what it is that I'm.
Speaker 4: Doing for cinemat Fans know Michael G. Wilson, but those
Speaker 4: who weren't him tell him.
Speaker 2: He is. He is the step son of Albert Kubby Brockley,
Speaker 2: the producer, creator, galactic overseer of the James Bond franchise
Speaker 2: from day one, and he came on and if he
Speaker 2: you know, he's just he looks better now, all right.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give him that. He looks better now.
Speaker 2: But when you see him in doing interviews in the
Speaker 2: late seventies early eighties for the Bond movies, he just
Speaker 2: he looks like someone who has done wrong, right, and
Speaker 2: you know, and he apparently knows martial arts, and he
Speaker 2: definitely looks like a guy who would know martial arts,
Speaker 2: just you know, and he would try to kill you. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: he would try to kill you.
Speaker 11: I think that's any talks like that, he just doesn't
Speaker 11: have much inflection or volume in his voice. He just
Speaker 11: kind of mumbles very softly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd be totally calm and disconnected about it. That's
Speaker 2: the point.
Speaker 11: Sometimes sometimes I wonder to myself what it is that
Speaker 11: makes me angry, and then when I get angry, I.
Speaker 2: Killed people.
Speaker 4: He said, Sometimes I wonder to myself what it is
Speaker 4: that makes me angry? What does that even mean? Chuck writes,
Speaker 4: to be fair to Big Van Vader, his book was
Speaker 4: called Vader Time, and it was published by Walking on
Speaker 4: Hot Waffles. That's the name of the publisher, not the name.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, the book. However, ironically, Boss Vader often
Speaker 4: walking on hot waffles.
Speaker 2: That's very true, as he would put and also often
Speaker 2: eating hot waffles.
Speaker 4: Because he would put six hundred of them in toasting
Speaker 4: at a time and they'd all pop, and inevitably, in
Speaker 4: the rush to get his face on them, he'd step
Speaker 4: on some. Ryan James, thank you very much for the pledge.
Speaker 4: Welcome in, Brett Derezo. It's great to have your support, pal.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Jerome says, just get into the
Speaker 4: commentary on the Bond series over the British premieres of
Speaker 4: Bond films, and I move that we replaced the live
Speaker 4: calls of w W shows with live calls of British premiers.
Speaker 2: People love that shit. I loved it. That's one of
Speaker 2: my favorite parts of the Bond Journey me too. It's
Speaker 2: just absolutely hilarious. I mean, honestly, we when when when
Speaker 2: I when I found when I found footage of the
Speaker 2: of the first one that I was able to get,
Speaker 2: and I was like, holy shit, this is just fantastic.
Speaker 4: And just the way you kick into that gear of like, ah, yes,
Speaker 4: oh my god, are you good at that. I like
Speaker 4: the idea of doing alternate commentary for like the Macy's
Speaker 4: Day Parade or something, you know, absolutely just being like
Speaker 4: just totally obnoxious about it. Cody Meek, thanks for the pledge.
Speaker 2: We appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Christopher Marriing Rights reaching River of Darkness on my first
Speaker 4: pass through under of the Cinema. That's one of Sid's
Speaker 4: indie hits, right, the one with kurent Angle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just after. I mean, that's he's his filmography is
Speaker 2: not long, no, not at all.
Speaker 4: That is one of them, and we covered that before
Speaker 4: we lionized Sid yep ye by my first pass th
Speaker 4: under the Cinemat just after finishing this episode of the
Speaker 4: Sid Tribute, his proof of lapsed Serendipity apparently said in
Speaker 4: the episode says, I never met Kurt Angle before this movie,
Speaker 4: and then later says, yes, I met him when Kurt
Speaker 4: was first starting in this business in the Memphis territory.
Speaker 2: It can't be both, Sid, When did you meet this sure?
Speaker 2: Do you sure came both?
Speaker 4: Suit Williams, Welcome back, my friend. Thanks for the pledge.
Speaker 4: We appreciated. Logan, Yes, give me that fucking cake. Matthew Muns, Yes,
Speaker 4: up that pledge. Parker Soul saying, yes, welcome into the
Speaker 4: inner circle. Aaron Horton keep going up? Why stop there?
Speaker 4: Derga points out when we're going through ninety nine Sid
Speaker 4: when he was in that Randy Savage stable. Remember we
Speaker 4: talked about that thing where Sid slap Tory Wilson. Pardon me,
Speaker 4: Randy Savage slap Tory Wilson a nitro one time when
Speaker 4: it wasn't scripted. Yes, Durga points out an important nuance
Speaker 4: about that. He says, this has probably been pointed out already,
Speaker 4: and it's a small thing. But the Tory Wilson's lap
Speaker 4: was that she was laughing at Randy's intensity, so he
Speaker 4: slapped her, not the other way around. I remembered it
Speaker 4: being Randy slapped her, and it was like such a
Speaker 4: fake slap that she couldn't help but laugh. But Randy
Speaker 4: slapped her because she was already laughing at how over
Speaker 4: the top he was being so right, that really makes
Speaker 4: it a little darker, you know what I mean, that
Speaker 4: we can't We can't take solace in the idea that
Speaker 4: the slap was k faved enough that she could laugh
Speaker 4: it off.
Speaker 2: No, in fact, she gots slapped for laughing right, that
Speaker 2: was out of his fucking mind, That's what happened. Just
Speaker 2: think of like the state of his upper body in
Speaker 2: that run, and the look on his face and the
Speaker 2: recedingness of his hairline and the leather of his cangle
Speaker 2: and then he can't get it up. I mean, what
Speaker 2: a story. Yes, indeed, maybe we have to do that journey.
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's too much man, and there's a
Speaker 2: lot there. Oh, he's a fascinating one for sure.
Speaker 4: Alex writes, I'm not trying to be funny when I
Speaker 4: say I actually think the series finale of TLF is
Speaker 4: going to be the Hogan tribute show.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know, Mike says, I mean, listen, depends
Speaker 2: if we're like on our way to the grave.
Speaker 4: Maybe, well, I don't see how. I don't see how
Speaker 4: we can't do a hog contribute until We're in the grave,
Speaker 4: because it was just it have to be thirty years long,
Speaker 4: it'd be so crazy.
Speaker 2: Why do they do this to us?
Speaker 4: Why do they make us think about these things? And
Speaker 4: that's what we do, Mike says. JP's memory of Great
Speaker 4: American Bash ninety nine and the many copies the video
Speaker 4: store had unlocked my own memory. I worked at Hollywood
Speaker 4: Video from two thousand two to two thousand and six,
Speaker 4: and we had a VHS copy of Great American Bash
Speaker 4: to rent and three used copies for sale. Even as
Speaker 4: a huge nineties wrestling fan, I knew better than to
Speaker 4: check out WCW from that era.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, such a so much excess inventory of those nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety nine WCW tapes.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. And again like that that weird. It
Speaker 2: was just that weird, you know. I didn't know anything
Speaker 2: about it, and so just seeing Nash and Savage just
Speaker 2: like this a weird thing. Like I'm thinking, this is
Speaker 2: not a thing I ever had any desire to see.
Speaker 4: And on those videotapes, we were wondering during the SID
Speaker 4: tribute what Mandalay Entertainment possibly could have in terms of
Speaker 4: connection because Mandalay entertainment displays on those WW home videotapes. Yes,
Speaker 4: and Tom ex Nacio always with the Intel, comes forward
Speaker 4: and says Mandalay was Peter Gouber's parachute when he got
Speaker 4: fired from sonywhile Jason Hervey worked for Mandalai. So when
Speaker 4: Sony bought licensing rights to distribute WW home video from Turner,
Speaker 4: which I guess that was something I was missing too.
Speaker 4: That Sony bought the rights from Turner in nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 4: they put Hervey, who had broken the deal, and Mandalay,
Speaker 4: which was interested in sports rights, in charge. Gooper went
Speaker 4: on to be a minority owner of the Warriors, So
Speaker 4: there you go. That was almost like a baby step
Speaker 4: in the direction of Mandela Consis during buying WCW YEP,
Speaker 4: they were already in in the home video side of things.
Speaker 2: And Jason, because you got Hervey there right.
Speaker 4: He also writes a Tom, it's so funny. The three
Speaker 4: biggest licensing deals WW you ever made, Sony for home
Speaker 4: video rights, EA for video game rights, and toy Biz
Speaker 4: for action figure rights all began in January nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 4: and by the end of ninety nine the business had
Speaker 4: fallen off a Cliff and all those rights were essentially worthless.
Speaker 4: Timed beautifully, guys, real, real, great job by your crack staff.
Speaker 4: William Wright's co chairman. I have lived in the Little Rock,
Speaker 4: Arkansas area for ten years now. I needed a job
Speaker 4: and got on as a server of the local Chili's.
Speaker 4: One of the managers there is gorgeous Gary Jung of
Speaker 4: Global Memphis in Dallas Fame. He once told me about
Speaker 4: some ring gear that he used for a while that
Speaker 4: was the goofy half trunk with one leg covered down
Speaker 4: to his boot. I think we talked about how unfortunate
Speaker 4: that ring gear is during an episode along the way.
Speaker 4: He said that the gear seemed cool at the time,
Speaker 4: but every time he got slammed or suplexed, his balls
Speaker 4: would pop out. Oh my god, So you got to
Speaker 4: consider that, Chris Man, thanks for the support, my friend.
Speaker 4: Welcome to the executive producer tier. Appreciate it very much.
Speaker 4: Vippin with this letter, dearest coach chairman, this message has
Speaker 4: meant more for Jacks though. I hold you both dearly
Speaker 4: for getting me through tough circumstances and being the wrestling
Speaker 4: friends that I need. This is a private message. Please
Speaker 4: do not share publicly. I just want to say thank you.
Speaker 4: We won't but I wanted to say thank you. That's
Speaker 4: all I can say. Kevin Hiknutt, thank you very much
Speaker 4: for the pledge. We appreciate the support. Blake says, just
Speaker 4: a thought, But I was thinking. And don't think there's
Speaker 4: ever been a year from a theatrical release perspective that
Speaker 4: was quite like nineteen eighty nine. Oh yeah, hell, I'll
Speaker 4: spare the list, but it's almost like it had to
Speaker 4: be destined from the gods. Something magical happened that year.
Speaker 4: Not sure if you can do anything with that, but
Speaker 4: some type of nineteen eighty nine cinema journey would fucking
Speaker 4: hit everyone right between the eyes. I think, just yeah,
Speaker 4: to go by year instead of by some.
Speaker 2: I mean I'd have to look. I mean again, I'd
Speaker 2: look to see. I mean I know that there are
Speaker 2: we'd listen. I mean, he talked about it, but we
Speaker 2: already do have one connection at least to the biggest
Speaker 2: movie of night Canadian nine, which was Batman uh in
Speaker 2: Tony Van Silva. Yes, so, I mean it's something to
Speaker 2: look at, you know, something to consider looking at what
Speaker 2: uh you know, like see what what movies are are
Speaker 2: available doing this to you for us. I mean it's
Speaker 2: always the same. I love it, Damiens, We've done and
Speaker 2: we've done some of them already. That's that's that's also
Speaker 2: kind of the the in a way of bummer, because
Speaker 2: we have done a significant amount from eighty nine the
Speaker 2: Indiana Jones, we did Ghostbusters two already, we did Gremlins.
Speaker 4: Having done eighty five Star Kid before the memorial tour.
Speaker 2: Right right, But there's oh yea, there's a lot in here,
Speaker 2: like to see the.
Speaker 4: Greatest year for wrestling too, not from a business receiapts standpoint,
Speaker 4: but just from in terms of the stuff both the
Speaker 4: big two are putting out.
Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, I mean this was having more of
Speaker 2: like a big money here, like just a lot of
Speaker 2: movies came out that were huge. I don't feel the
Speaker 2: Dreams came out then too.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, Damieney, Damien Thorn, thanks for the pledge,
Speaker 4: my friend. We appreciated. Ellis right. My mother has told
Speaker 4: me the story numerous times. When she went to see
Speaker 4: The Exorcist, she saw it twice in theaters that they
Speaker 4: gave out vomit bags to the movie. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: imagine the Exorcist, part of Scary Movie Season. Another fucking
Speaker 4: banner accomplishment this year under the cinematic fun. We go
Speaker 4: on and on about TLFX, but man UTC X, let
Speaker 4: me tell you, Yeah, there's a lot of action over
Speaker 4: there this year UTC four And for George, he writes
Speaker 4: as always good fun watching along UTC has become a
Speaker 4: Friday tradition thing for me.
Speaker 2: Now, how great is that? Love? It? It is so awesome?
Speaker 2: Makes me happy.
Speaker 4: Rick Rude is the subject line here from Brian. Hello,
Speaker 4: long time, first time in that ass, and I don't
Speaker 4: mind so remember you briefly touched on the rumors regarding
Speaker 4: Rick Rude and being castrated. Donky Tonk, Jake Morocco, and
Speaker 4: Petra have all said the same things. I always thought
Speaker 4: it was probably big Bs, because if the testicular cancer
Speaker 4: rumors were true. However, I did find a bit of
Speaker 4: an interesting post. I went to the Google obituary forms
Speaker 4: and searched Rude. There are around twenty different forms regarding
Speaker 4: his death. Four or five of them were from September
Speaker 4: of ninety nine, shortly after it was officially released in June.
Speaker 4: I opened all of them up and one had a
Speaker 4: comment from September seventh, nineteen ninety nine. Here's a quote
Speaker 4: from the September ninth, nineteen ninety nine Google forum. How
Speaker 4: come the article doesn't mention anything about his pecker falling
Speaker 4: off due to gangren after he shot so much viagra
Speaker 4: into it to get a heart on after losing his
Speaker 4: balls to testicular cancer. We can't believe I got it
Speaker 4: all in one sentence.
Speaker 2: How about that.
Speaker 4: I had heard that in a way, but I hadn't heard.
Speaker 4: I hadn't heard that he did it because he had
Speaker 4: lost his balls due to care answer.
Speaker 2: I just heard that.
Speaker 4: I just always heard the story that he was experimenting
Speaker 4: with it because he wanted to stay hard. I didn't
Speaker 4: know that there was like this kind of medical component
Speaker 4: to it.
Speaker 2: But let's put it this way.
Speaker 4: There's a reason there hasn't been, you know, a Dark
Speaker 4: Side on Rick Rude, or an any biography on Rick Rude,
Speaker 4: or anything approximating like a career documentary on that guy
Speaker 4: or a life in times, because you got to touch
Speaker 4: on that subject at the end, and I don't think
Speaker 4: the family wants to go anywhere near it.
Speaker 2: So embarrassing, you know, right.
Speaker 4: And sad too, because he was he was pretty much
Speaker 4: gearing for an ring comeback, you know, when he died,
Speaker 4: he was about to have another chapter of his career.
Speaker 4: He made that impactful jump to WCW from DX that
Speaker 4: famous ninety was on both shows.
Speaker 2: Really sad. Yes, so that's that.
Speaker 4: Thanks for passing it along. Andrew writes Sid's Vicious viennas.
Speaker 4: So I'm listening to the latest SID Tribute part six
Speaker 4: and there was a shout out to Andrew who purchased
Speaker 4: sid Vienna shirt. My name is Andrew, Yes, that's you.
Speaker 4: I just want to say you're the man. I recently
Speaker 4: purchased the Sid's Vicious Vienna shirt. Now, I don't know
Speaker 4: if it's me you're talking about on the show or
Speaker 4: if it's some other Andrew who got in touch with
Speaker 4: you after buying the shirt, but I thought y'all might
Speaker 4: get a kick. And of why I got the shirt recently,
Speaker 4: my wife and I made a trip to Canada to
Speaker 4: see a family. A fifteen hour drive for us, so
Speaker 4: I always load up on the podcast to make the
Speaker 4: drive easier. For context, my wife has heard the cast before,
Speaker 4: and let's just say she doesn't get it. Is this
Speaker 4: the email boss that inspired the lapsed wife t shirt.
Speaker 4: I think it's the same one. Okay, I might have
Speaker 4: just put it in this folder. Andrew, thanks again. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we passed that along. It was just too money when
Speaker 4: it happened, and it was relevant to the sid journey,
Speaker 4: so we read it there. But I got lapsed. Wife
Speaker 4: moving a couple of units this Christmas season. Oh fuck yeah,
Speaker 4: very nice to say, William Murphy, thanks for bumping up
Speaker 4: the pledge. We appreciate the cake and the support mister
Speaker 4: Rick bell Bottom's rights. I have often nearly prolapsed with
Speaker 4: laughter with your content, and I've always wanted to not
Speaker 4: be broken enough to not subscribe. However, I found that
Speaker 4: I couldn't enjoy the CID episodes. I didn't think he
Speaker 4: was cold enough to be Frank Frank. As for the
Speaker 4: Vienna sausages, the first State WrestleMania's the first five Survivor series,
Speaker 4: Summer Slam eighty one to ninety one, and one or
Speaker 4: two row rumbles, you literally had a six foot eight
Speaker 4: hot dog and trunks for ages. I subscribe to say
Speaker 4: thanks for your content, but plead with you all stop
Speaker 4: wasting time and to please just get on with making
Speaker 4: the Randy Savage biopic. Everyone keeps talking about Savage, and
Speaker 4: it's not like something recently happened with him that would
Speaker 4: make people want it. It's just it's too serendipitous.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I'm gonna have to answer
Speaker 2: that weight not have to think about that. But I
Speaker 2: mean it's interesting. I mean, I guess, I guess because
Speaker 2: out of all of the of the rest of us
Speaker 2: who've died, I mean, you know, he's He's prime beef
Speaker 2: of that totally, yeah, of that era.
Speaker 4: If Sid is as lapsed as it gets, then Randy's
Speaker 4: even a higher level, you know, right, Sid has that
Speaker 4: quality of somebody that you wouldn't at first blush think
Speaker 4: to do a tribute for. And that's really where we
Speaker 4: can do damage. Whereas Savage. Everyone knows Brandy Savage is
Speaker 4: worth saving and worth you know, examining.
Speaker 2: I mean, especially because when you consider he you know,
Speaker 2: he died well before we even yes conceive of the show.
Speaker 4: Right, so we didn't have the chance to decide to
Speaker 4: do a tribute show about him. We weren't even in
Speaker 4: that mode yet. Unbelievable, unbelievable. I don't know, it might
Speaker 4: be something, there might be an initiative. I'm in a
Speaker 4: New Year's resolution kind of frame of mind. That's what's
Speaker 4: always so dangerous about the holidays is you get your
Speaker 4: time off, you know, and you start like fucking around
Speaker 4: and your mind starts wandering and you start getting ambitious,
Speaker 4: and you kind of lose it gets a little You
Speaker 4: get a little loss of perspective for how little time
Speaker 4: there actually is in a day in a week when
Speaker 4: things ramp back up, so you like overload all these ambitions,
Speaker 4: which is a good thing.
Speaker 2: It's healthy.
Speaker 4: And we love the solar system pointing us in a
Speaker 4: direction that always makes it easier when people ask for
Speaker 4: us to do it instead of us doing it hoping
Speaker 4: people accept it, which we know they will. But yes,
Speaker 4: this is one too many. This is one too many
Speaker 4: random mentions of savage when we did the sid thing.
Speaker 4: Uh oh, I'd subscribe to say thanks your content. Oops,
Speaker 4: I almost forgot the main reason for my subscription, He writes,
Speaker 4: to put it out there that the third annual Survivor
Speaker 4: series is begging for the lapsed treatment. For sure, It's true.
Speaker 4: Still my favorite pay per view. I'm happy to feel
Speaker 4: happy and ashamed and equal measures. Well, thank you for that.
Speaker 4: I always open to the entreaties and thanks for the
Speaker 4: cake as well. Here is Abibe from Toronto and we're
Speaker 4: going to pass this on to the boss. Abebe's a
Speaker 4: long time supporter. Always great to hear from one of
Speaker 4: the more astute I would say, members of the Solar system.
Speaker 2: What does he have for us this time? The laps
Speaker 2: fan is my favorite piece of media, and I constantly
Speaker 2: go back to it over and over again. I have
Speaker 2: a hard time explaining this even to myself, as I
Speaker 2: honestly don't have any connection to wrestling anymore. This is
Speaker 2: not a work. But after buying my old wrestling buddy
Speaker 2: burying my old wrestling buddy a few months ago, it
Speaker 2: has become clear to me why this podcast has that
Speaker 2: quot quote warm blanket feeling short. My best friend in
Speaker 2: high school in middle school was a huge wrestling fanatic.
Speaker 2: He would tape every raw. I was not allowed to
Speaker 2: watch wrestling because Adnan al Casey Fakeness offended my father
Speaker 2: so deeply, so I would rely on his tapes every
Speaker 2: weekend and we would obsess over every angle. For whatever reason,
Speaker 2: we thought the Rock was an Arab and so he
Speaker 2: became a favorite even before he was cool. Honestly, back
Speaker 2: then with that haircut, he did look like a Saudi
Speaker 2: or a Kuwait. That's amazing. I never thought of that.
Speaker 2: Really funny. We even tried to get buff and ripped
Speaker 2: like our favorite wrestlers, although we were smart enough to
Speaker 2: have other career goals unlike the retarded Bell brothers. His
Speaker 2: words says direct yet Yeah. Anyway, those were some of
Speaker 2: the best years of my life, even though we both
Speaker 2: couldn't get women to touch us even if our life
Speaker 2: depended on it. But unfortunately we grew up. I went
Speaker 2: away to university. He became a dentist and a prompt
Speaker 2: quote prominent figure in the community mosque. So even the
Speaker 2: old wrestling tapes were taped over to delete all evidence
Speaker 2: of wrestling fandom, and we lost touch up until about
Speaker 2: a year ago. I got a text from him that
Speaker 2: he had terminal cancer and that he was that he's
Speaker 2: going to fight. He is going to inject himself a
Speaker 2: lethal dose of poison. He was talking about chemotherapy. We
Speaker 2: both had a good laugh about about that ridiculous McMahon
Speaker 2: and w O promo. I kept in touch with him
Speaker 2: this past year. He passed around from very various unsuccessful
Speaker 2: treatments and began to lose hope and knew he was
Speaker 2: reaching the end. A few days before he passed, he
Speaker 2: mentioned to me those days we had spent watching raw
Speaker 2: and eating his mom's home cooked meals were his favorite
Speaker 2: days and that he and that was the last conversation
Speaker 2: I had with him before he died. Wow, so now
Speaker 2: my fan with the lapse fan makes a bit more sense.
Speaker 2: It's two friends obsessing and making fun of a dumb
Speaker 2: product that they once enjoyed. The wrestling fandom lapses with
Speaker 2: the friends and the good time staying. You don't need
Speaker 2: to read this email on air. Just wanted to place
Speaker 2: the share, and quite frankly, the funeral was not the
Speaker 2: best place to do it. I talked about our share
Speaker 2: wrestling fan in that environment, I would have been judged harshly,
Speaker 2: and unlike him, I'm still alive and have to live
Speaker 2: with the judgment and shame. Wow. That's a hell of
Speaker 2: a letter. Yeah it is, and he's right.
Speaker 4: We don't set out to be that, but we can
Speaker 4: certainly serve that purpose for folks who needs the sin. Hitman,
Speaker 4: thanks for bumping all the way up to that moat tier.
Speaker 4: It's time to shout out the Moat Tier. It's been
Speaker 4: too long. Look, it's not for everybody, yep, but it
Speaker 4: is our richest, highest level of participation in support, and
Speaker 4: it is a bunch of people that are the envy
Speaker 4: of any podcast in the world that they would put
Speaker 4: this cake on a monthly basis really for support. I mean,
Speaker 4: there are a lot of extra goodies we try to
Speaker 4: throw to the Moat Tier, but with the exception of
Speaker 4: Wrestle Mamia, which of course is more than worth it,
Speaker 4: it's really truly a spirit of like, no, I want
Speaker 4: to I want to show the highest level of support
Speaker 4: because you keep doing what you're doing, not because there's
Speaker 4: something directly in it for me. Just the existence of
Speaker 4: the podcast is what's in it for me, and so
Speaker 4: as is only appropriate, here's the honor roll of folks
Speaker 4: that are way way high up in that solar system
Speaker 4: in the Moat Tier. Abel Edier, Adam Graver, ad x three,
Speaker 4: Aiden Kevelhan, Alan Smith, Andrew Austin, King Sliver, Brian up, Blake, Downing,
Speaker 4: Brad Brandon Kaiser, Brendan Moe, Brian Blake, Brian Heinz, Chris Awsome,
Speaker 4: Mike Cogan, Chris Harris, Christopher Creva, Chuck Piacio, cold Stone,
Speaker 4: Steve Austin, Daniel David camon Ester, David Style, Dennis Dominic, Carrera, Hult,
Speaker 4: Cogan Intern, Matt James, Irwin, John Francis, Justin Davenport, Kevin Mills,
Speaker 4: Christopher Craig, Mark Daper, Martin Ferguson, Marty Longhurst, Mike Hornecker
Speaker 4: and Monty Davis Junior and Nathan and Pedro Rios and
Speaker 4: Pete Cosey and Peter Rustling and Robert Holtzammer and Ryan
Speaker 4: Ball and Sam Fairbanks and Scott Michael Ferry and Sean
Speaker 4: mcgherren Shane and Stephen Stephen Laird and Thomas Atanacio and
Speaker 4: Tom and Zach Medras and Zach Geller as the Homie
Speaker 4: ZV as well as Zach unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: That that list is still is so long and solid
Speaker 4: and consistent, and it's a gift, it really is. Morgan Brown,
Speaker 4: thank you very much for your support.
Speaker 2: Mister ten ninety nine, just a guy rights.
Speaker 4: Is there a podcast out there that would spend two
Speaker 4: months on the life and career of Cidy Uty? Absolutely not?
Speaker 4: Why because on their best day they're not as good
Speaker 4: as TLF mm hm. Adam writes, I lost it. Adam writes,
Speaker 4: the curtain lifts on the empty stage. The gargantuan, austere,
Speaker 4: blonde haired giant stands alone. The spotlight shines on a
Speaker 4: giant stack of Vienna sausages. Sid then breaks into a
Speaker 4: rendition of good night by someone from the music Man.
Speaker 4: After he's finished, he disappears. The curtain then drops as
Speaker 4: suddenly and devastatingly as a giant nineteen ninety two West
Speaker 4: Memphis power bomb and scene.
Speaker 2: Fart.
Speaker 4: Donovan, thank you very much for your support. Andrew Shustek,
Speaker 4: thanks for the gay Craig writes on cinemat I come
Speaker 4: to you, a humble member of the Solar system with
Speaker 4: an offering. After Boss giving that full fucking lapse treatment
Speaker 4: to Alice, Sweet Alice, I've needed to help to contribute
Speaker 4: again with either a classic movie or classic wrestler. Honestly,
Speaker 4: in some ways, I'm shocked you haven't gotten to this
Speaker 4: one yet. But then again, some of the language of
Speaker 4: the movie can also easily dismay you, or even more morbidly,
Speaker 4: I could see JP holding this one back for when
Speaker 4: the director of the movie passes away. But gentlemen, Alex
Speaker 4: Carris mongo blazing fucking saddle.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Tom a list YEP, can confirm?
Speaker 7: Boss?
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? Can confirm?
Speaker 4: Andrew writes on cinemat Ah, the familiar warmth of a
Speaker 4: film driving locals mad enough that it makes the papers.
Speaker 2: Ah not a good one. It's my favorite thing. Whenever
Speaker 2: that happens, it just makes me happy.
Speaker 4: Triple Biz, thanks for the six support. We appreciate that
Speaker 4: Executive producer level tier pledge. Chris Madonno same to you,
Speaker 4: my friend. There's Habib coming in strong. Stephen Prescott, thank
Speaker 4: you very much for the pledge. Rich Molton, thanks for
Speaker 4: bumping up the support. Daniel and a point went all
Speaker 4: the way up to the moat tier and thus is
Speaker 4: goateed in our eyes. Ben Buck, thank you very much
Speaker 4: for the cake. Andrew writes bumped up to the moat
Speaker 4: tier for the holiday season and wanted to send a
Speaker 4: shout out for how great UTC is. Took me about
Speaker 4: eighteen months to work my way through the archives and
Speaker 4: it stands alone as an incredible podcast, the perfect mix
Speaker 4: of hilarious and informative on a subject I probably never
Speaker 4: would have dealt did into independently. He really hits it
Speaker 4: on the nose there, love it. I love that all well.
Speaker 4: An obscene increase in his monthly pledge is deeply appreciate
Speaker 4: it up there north of the Border, Thank you, Andrew,
Speaker 4: Alex Conley, thank you very much for the pledge. Doctor
Speaker 4: Wiz Pip, longtime supporter. Thanks for the cake. William Murphy,
Speaker 4: great to see your support. Thank you, Sean. Thanks for
Speaker 4: the increased vote of support and confidence. Louis Perez, longtime
Speaker 4: supporter in the saddle again, thanks for the cake. Ion Knight,
Speaker 4: thank you for the support. My friend Greg Armstrong, we
Speaker 4: welcome you into the Solar System Inner Circle. Dominios, thank
Speaker 4: you very much for your pledge of support. Macho Mania,
Speaker 4: thank you very much for the cake. This one goes
Speaker 4: out to Rick Pepe who jumped into the UTC Tire
Speaker 4: executive producer. He is how about real Yoshi Hashi coming
Speaker 4: in strong in joining the Solar System.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: John Zegler, longtime supporter, bumped up the pledge recently. Dav
Speaker 4: thank you very much for the cake. Chris says, I'm
Speaker 4: going to make this real simple. I had to pull
Speaker 4: over while I was driving so there would be not
Speaker 4: a crash hearing boss as Sid say, what do you
Speaker 4: mean my prerogative? Don't you sit there and use your
Speaker 4: fucking Connecticut words with me. I have yet to make
Speaker 4: it back on the road, Christopher reports. Zach writes, I
Speaker 4: can a test to a tremendous boss's enthusiasm on my
Speaker 4: Hogan Giant cameo, both based on how great it is
Speaker 4: and the fact he completed their quest and record time.
Speaker 2: This was I was part of it. I couldn't believe
Speaker 2: the work the boss did. I was fucking funny, he said, No,
Speaker 2: I mean that one was like, you know, that one
Speaker 2: was just I was like, holy shit, that I just
Speaker 2: you know, I often, if I, if I'm being completely honest,
Speaker 2: usually the ones that I uh, that I either take
Speaker 2: my time on or that i've kind of apologize have
Speaker 2: let slip is because I don't have an immediate inspiration,
Speaker 2: right and so I'm which usually you know, ends up
Speaker 2: just me winging it and it's fine. It's usually you know,
Speaker 2: they're always they're always satisfied. We never get any complaints,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. And but that one I was like,
Speaker 2: I needed to do it. I needed to do it
Speaker 2: right away.
Speaker 4: We'll know that Zach ordered it for a Halloween treat
Speaker 4: on Monday, and he got it so fast it was
Speaker 4: painful holding on listening to it, holding off listening to
Speaker 4: it for several days. Ah Steve King, thank you very
Speaker 4: much for the increase in pledge.
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Daniel James Dunn, thank you for the increase.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 4: Rosalie Kane. Great to see you in the Solar System.
Speaker 4: Thanks for the money. Conrad Benjamin, we love it. Cody Davis,
Speaker 4: we love it. Brian Condon, we love it all this support.
Speaker 4: Adam says, sid, what do you think about people who
Speaker 4: hid in the link of that fucking cast? They don't
Speaker 4: know shit, cry baby. This is Scott Michael Ferry, one
Speaker 4: of the big cinophiles on the Solar System, commenting, oh yes,
Speaker 4: on our coverage of The Exorcis on Scory Movie Season.
Speaker 4: He writes, are you sure this episode dropped on Halloween?
Speaker 4: Because it sure feels like Christmas?
Speaker 3: To me?
Speaker 4: This is an all time film for me and I
Speaker 4: could not have been more excited to see that episode
Speaker 4: length was longer than my fucking work day, Absolutely worth
Speaker 4: the weight of a full year. This is also a
Speaker 4: bit of a loose connection but up here in the
Speaker 4: Northeast there was a wrestling faction named Team Pazzuzu who
Speaker 4: would wear that oh no shit, famous shot at the
Speaker 4: Pazuzu face from the film on their knee pads and shirts,
Speaker 4: even if the face was altered so you could make
Speaker 4: out the words suck me, oh my god. The most
Speaker 4: successful guys from Pazzuzu ended up being Santana and or tees,
Speaker 4: who are proud and powerful in aw Or were what.
Speaker 2: Do you know? That was a connection You didn't even
Speaker 2: know to point now, I had no clue. I didn't
Speaker 2: even I didn't that didn't, that did not. It's kind
Speaker 2: of funny that did not come across the trends across
Speaker 2: the yeah at all. That never even never even came
Speaker 2: up right call out. That's what makes the Solar system
Speaker 2: so great, Ronnie Cathy, thanks for the support. Owen writes,
Speaker 2: just up to the EP here for the Exor System.
Speaker 2: Let's fucking go. That's gonna feel good, boss. When yeah,
Speaker 2: you bring a movie that brings someone across the finish line, Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: that is always that's it. You know, if I can,
Speaker 2: if I can, I I I I do, I do
Speaker 2: think that there is some value in in the show.
Speaker 2: I think it actually, I think it touches a unique
Speaker 2: aspect of the wrestling business. But I know that it's
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it can be a little hefty
Speaker 2: on the wallet, and I know, but I know that
Speaker 2: once you cross over, you're gonna get it. Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: gonna understand. And you know, there's a movie out there
Speaker 2: for everybody to make that jump.
Speaker 4: Especially now considering how robust the archive is at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 4: something's in there, something's in there for you. Vernon Wright's on.
Speaker 2: The one hundred and thirty six movies as a video, Yes, And.
Speaker 4: Wrestle Mommy keeps going, Oh, I mean yeah, everyone got
Speaker 4: a taste when Mama Sorrow set in for the unwrapping
Speaker 4: on the free feed. But if you're wondering what Wrestle
Speaker 4: Mommy is like, now you know. And Vernon writes my
Speaker 4: favorite Mama Sorrow bit moarning JP about the danger of wrestling.
Speaker 4: You have a daughter, better never do one of those matches.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, oh, I love that. Also when she says colored,
Speaker 2: JP replied bleached. I don't know why I was dying
Speaker 2: at that. Oh, Mama, I'm Marianne Mama sorrow.
Speaker 4: Does that dog tell you when he wants to go out?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, JP, No, Mama sorrow. Okay, he's just
Speaker 4: looking for the sun. Her wholesomeness, he says, is untouched.
Speaker 2: It's it's you know, well, yeah, go for it. It's
Speaker 2: it's a So for some reason, she just has this
Speaker 2: weird fear and instinct that if the dog is doing
Speaker 2: anything but sleeping, it must need to go to the bathroom. Ah,
Speaker 2: it must need to go out. I'm like, no, this
Speaker 2: dog goes out three times a day, all right, it knows,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's very I wouldn't say, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to say that that he is one hundred percent
Speaker 2: uh you know, a house broken. But I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: he is like eighty percent house broken, all right, And
Speaker 2: he knows that we walk three times a day, and
Speaker 2: so he's not you know, it's because he's walking around,
Speaker 2: doesn't mean he's a fucking bathroom. Now, Now you don't
Speaker 2: find yourself having to repeat that, do you? Oh my god,
Speaker 2: over and over every time every time they come here,
Speaker 2: every time I every time I bring the dog up
Speaker 2: to their house, it's the same thing. Does he need
Speaker 2: to go out? Is that poop.
Speaker 4: H No, Mom, wasn't you worried during the unwrappening that
Speaker 4: there was dog shit somewhere?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was like it wasn't dog shit, it was
Speaker 2: something else. No, it was I think it was like
Speaker 2: tree chocolate, yes, trets, Yeah, chocolate. Good thing to eat
Speaker 2: that Dan the Man Noble pumping up that pledge. You
Speaker 2: can never forget Dan Man. He's out there, he's he's uh,
Speaker 2: he's a fucking trooper. He sends me messages on Instagram
Speaker 2: which cracked me up.
Speaker 4: Ah, bran Erickson jumping up to the moat tier quite recently.
Speaker 4: We thank you very much for that, my friend, a
Speaker 4: new world cricket.
Speaker 5: What do you know?
Speaker 4: New World order cricket pledging to the coach heres. How
Speaker 4: about Luke from Manchester who heard us talking about blobby
Speaker 4: because there was concerned about a blobby push?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah remember that it was a while ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hi, chaps, just thought i'd share on listening to
Speaker 4: Indiana Jones and the last Crusade episode.
Speaker 2: Of UTC, which is episode fifty six, so he's in
Speaker 2: the archives. That's a while ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have a wonderful time watching a clip of
Speaker 4: Pat wrote to take on the British legend that is
Speaker 4: mister Blobby. You even posed the question how many kids
Speaker 4: had nightmares of mister Blobby to answer a question. He
Speaker 4: was a British icon. He was a hero of mine
Speaker 4: as a small child, and I even had a Mister
Speaker 4: Blobby teddy growing up. I still have this original teddy today,
Speaker 4: thirty years later, and I have the fondest memories of him,
Speaker 4: including owning multiple Mister Blobby VHS tapes highlighting his numerous
Speaker 4: hilarious entics. I realized this is over two years after
Speaker 4: this episode dropped, but I couldn't resist in answering the
Speaker 4: call of the co chairs and sharing with you how
Speaker 4: loved he really was. Never in my wildest dreams that
Speaker 4: I think I would ever hear Lapstogan nervously utter the
Speaker 4: words mister Blobby.
Speaker 2: Push dude, what do you do? Blobby? What amazing brother?
Speaker 4: Your loyally p patron Luke from Manchester. Unbelievable. This blobby
Speaker 4: thing has a hold on these Brits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I love it. Okay.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: This great member of the Solar system always changes its name,
Speaker 4: so I never really know what to call him. It's
Speaker 4: it's Cliff okay, one time, he's going by County Rhodes.
Speaker 4: He wrote, talk about Wrestle Mamia. I watched A Vivar's
Speaker 4: series ninety six on pay per view at my grandmother's house,
Speaker 4: and on the way home, I kept trying to justify
Speaker 4: how sid won the idol in My mom, who didn't
Speaker 4: give a fuck about wrestling, kept exclaiming, but he cheated,
Speaker 4: he cheated.
Speaker 2: That is the greatest thing. That's it. That's it. There.
Speaker 2: There there is such a you know, there's there's a
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say for every mom, but but for
Speaker 2: for a good a good number of moms. There is
Speaker 2: this this this kind of a threshold that they that
Speaker 2: they cross and they they start you know, they they're
Speaker 2: they're there. They get sucked into the to the story
Speaker 2: and the character of it like it like a kid does,
Speaker 2: and they you know, they start reacting. You know, if
Speaker 2: you thought, if you think about these things like no,
Speaker 2: like none of the stuff really makes sense. You know,
Speaker 2: we've talked about it, the idea that well, someone throws
Speaker 2: you in the ropes, why do you go with it?
Speaker 2: Why do you why do you feel the need to
Speaker 2: run like you're not you know, I could if if
Speaker 2: someone threw me into the ropes and I and I
Speaker 2: wanted to stop on staff. Absolutely, you know, but you
Speaker 2: get you get sucked into it they I mean, i'd
Speaker 2: imagine also because the wrestlers do a very good job
Speaker 2: at making it seem like it's actually happening. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: actually a great point, Like you're not going to catch
Speaker 2: the mom getting sucked in to a match between guys
Speaker 2: who suck like. That's a tribute to the guys that
Speaker 2: somebody who knows they're not into it and thinks it's
Speaker 2: bullshit ends up getting kind of mad when a guy
Speaker 2: cheats to win, right right, that means you're doing it well. Yep.
Speaker 4: Tony Van Silva talked about that, and I thought a
Speaker 4: really a refreshing way. He was like, you know, yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: everybody knows to put on, but it's not about that.
Speaker 4: It's about allowing the person's emotions next to you to
Speaker 4: bleed into you so you can have this experience. Yes,
Speaker 4: so you can, you can share in the emotion in
Speaker 4: the room, and no matter what caused it and the
Speaker 4: authenticity of what caused it, that is that's less important
Speaker 4: than the experience of sharing and everyone cheering or everyone
Speaker 4: booing for something that's intoxicating. Whether what you're cheering or
Speaker 4: booing is actual conflict or not is immaterial, which I
Speaker 4: thought was really interesting because his mind went there right away.
Speaker 4: He had no trouble answering the question why do these
Speaker 4: people come here if they didn't think it was real?
Speaker 4: Ryan Warner, thank you very much for the pledge. Welcome
Speaker 4: to the ept or Zachary Cole Yes, Felix n Yes,
Speaker 4: Sean Wright. Sid as champion could be comparable to a
Speaker 4: popular sitcom character who isn't as valuable unless part of
Speaker 4: an ensemble cast.
Speaker 2: I like that, that's true.
Speaker 4: M An example would be Joey from Friends, popular with fans,
Speaker 4: has noticeable catchphrase, notable catchphrase, and Garner's laughs from the audience. However,
Speaker 4: when presented as the a plot or given more sincere storylines,
Speaker 4: they are more of a miss. This is further accentuated
Speaker 4: with the spin off sitcom of Joey. It was a
Speaker 4: big flop because ultimately, despite his popularity, the character slash
Speaker 4: performer is limited. This is the case with Sid popular,
Speaker 4: great look, memorable catchphrase, but when the show is meant
Speaker 4: to revolve around him as limitations are further accentuated. This
Speaker 4: is often a struggle for monster and spectacle champions. Undertaker's
Speaker 4: reigns are hindered by the limitations of his character to
Speaker 4: appear vulnerable and to sell challengers as potential threats. SID
Speaker 4: never evolved his promos beyond the shout Leaden style of
Speaker 4: the eighties and early nineties, and exception would be the
Speaker 4: scripted Nietzsche promo. Yeah, that's the Nietzsche prom that's the
Speaker 4: empty arena.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 4: Before Royal Roman ninety seven, Brett, Sean and Austin provided
Speaker 4: a more dynamic, grounded promo style for the time, and
Speaker 4: Sid stood out for the wrong reasons. The ensemble cast
Speaker 4: mentality of the main event scene in ninety six to
Speaker 4: ninety seven hid some of Sid's limitations, but it became
Speaker 4: clear that once he was given the A plot, he
Speaker 4: was no longer the man. That's true, he couldn't be
Speaker 4: the man. It was just hilarious because his catch phrase
Speaker 4: was the man who's the man?
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: Paully cautiously writes kind of harvest a case of viennas
Speaker 4: from the grocery store. Later, one of the great things
Speaker 4: you said, Boss, throughout the course of the SID tribute
Speaker 4: was do you grow viennas grop and Paul also writes, Geez,
Speaker 4: I remember Sid doing promos over his theme sounding a
Speaker 4: lot cooler and more menacing than they actually were. Nostalgia,
Speaker 4: I guess with Sid Brett Taker and pilled up HBK
Speaker 4: slurring every word that wasn't We're wrestling Federation the main
Speaker 4: event promos in late ninety sixth early ninety seven word
Speaker 4: dire at times. Yeah, yeah, Always wild to see people
Speaker 4: revisit what they thought was great stuff and realized perhaps
Speaker 4: it wasn't all that great. Kaypo wants the uh the
Speaker 4: pumpkin seed recipe.
Speaker 2: I sent him.
Speaker 4: Oh this is way back, I think, I think I
Speaker 4: think I sent him to He also wants the audio
Speaker 4: file of John Spencer laughing send him that memory?
Speaker 2: Did I send him that? I don't know. Did you
Speaker 2: have it? I do have it to hear it. Who's
Speaker 2: John Spencer? As you're looking for it?
Speaker 7: Ha ha.
Speaker 2: Hit it again, ha ha ha.
Speaker 5: He sent my church a case of Vienna sausages and
Speaker 5: I sent him an autograph picture. You sent my church
Speaker 5: a case of Vienna sausages and I sent him an
Speaker 5: autograph picture.
Speaker 3: Doing live.
Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty five, John Happy New Year doing light
Speaker 2: love like fucking lie right, how about it? How about it?
Speaker 2: You bitch ass motherfuckers? You already know what it is? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Can I hear John Spencer again again?
Speaker 7: Ha ha ha?
Speaker 2: Normal guy? Who's John Spencer? Why did he come up
Speaker 2: under the cinemat when we did the Rock? When we
Speaker 2: did the Rock? So John Spencer, you know, he's a great,
Speaker 2: wonderful actor, that guy of that guy's okay? And he
Speaker 2: he did this interview ship. I forget if it was
Speaker 2: I forget if it was on There was one on CNN,
Speaker 2: but this might have been Fresh Air, I don't remember.
Speaker 2: And he just, you know, he was talking about he's
Speaker 2: a very genuine individual, he's a great person. He's talking
Speaker 2: about addiction. You know, he's struggled with addiction in his
Speaker 2: whole life. And and then he just did this fucking
Speaker 2: weird ass. Lack was like, what is this? I love
Speaker 2: those so much? Oh God, wow, that was a riot there.
Speaker 4: I wasn't ready for that. Darren Hughes, thank you very
Speaker 4: much for the pledge. We appreciate the cake. Hy Daddy
Speaker 4: just writes on an episode it's sid one word. Viennasen
Speaker 4: brother Joe writes co chairs. Sid is the real life
Speaker 4: equivalent of Biff hand and from Back to the Future. Yes,
Speaker 4: a few examples, and I'm sure there are more. Once
Speaker 4: and for good this is the quote from SID. Take
Speaker 4: like a tree and get out of here, Biff. Yeah,
Speaker 4: work right, Midget also rights here in Wisconsin. At least
Speaker 4: in print, harvest is used versus hunt. So we're talking
Speaker 4: about Sid is a hunter. Oh yes, talking about harvest.
Speaker 4: Yet they use the word hunter not harvester. Okay, great
Speaker 4: clarification there, Jeremy, thanks very much for the for the sport.
Speaker 4: We appreciate the pledge on Patreon. Neil rights after this
Speaker 4: episode of Total NonStop SID.
Speaker 2: That's a good one.
Speaker 4: I think Diesel is still the worst funny, It's still
Speaker 4: the worst WWF champion, but Sydney has a claim as well.
Speaker 4: At least with Diesel, there was an attempt to put
Speaker 4: him in the middle of the action, but SID is
Speaker 4: a complete afterthought. I remember Jim Ross saying that at
Speaker 4: this time that instead of pushing one guy, they wanted
Speaker 4: a multipolar main event scene with Brett sean undertaker in
Speaker 4: SID exchanging the belt, and Sid feels like the distant
Speaker 4: number four on that list would you agree, bost Man, Uh,
Speaker 4: distint number four?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I would say number four. I'm not a distant thought.
Speaker 4: I feel like him and Undertaker were pretty interchangeable in
Speaker 4: terms of the world title picture.
Speaker 2: At the time. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe him and Brett were pretty was a
Speaker 4: pretty good program in late ninety six. Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe Carlo right guarding it's not like it's it. I
Speaker 4: don't know why, but for me, it's requiring more thought,
Speaker 4: a deeper thought. Yeah, process, So it's like a Sid.
Speaker 4: Sid by beating Sean at Survivor's Series ninety six, launched
Speaker 4: the whole idea of the world title picture being up
Speaker 4: for grabs. It kind of revolved around him, right, he
Speaker 4: was a catalyst. I'm not saying he was the one that,
Speaker 4: you know, could have really supported the position. I think
Speaker 4: we made it very clear and established that he was
Speaker 4: never going to be a longer term champion. It really
Speaker 4: didn't have the tools to be. But it's kind of
Speaker 4: weird that this chaos was caused by the fact that
Speaker 4: they put the belt on Sid and then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden it was kind of like up for grabs.
Speaker 4: Who could be considered the top man in the company
Speaker 4: because of Stags your world champ. Everyone else has a
Speaker 4: claim to. But he's the champ, and he's the reason
Speaker 4: for it being that way at the top of the
Speaker 4: card and not just all revolving around Shawn Michaels. Carla
Speaker 4: writes regarding harvesting, the place described sounded like a game farm.
Speaker 4: Is Sid's hunting again. They keep wild animals inside high
Speaker 4: fenced land. These animals were grown and harvested like a farm,
Speaker 4: people paying money to costplay hunting. Harvesting is also used
Speaker 4: by some as a politically correct term to describe hunting
Speaker 4: unless violent or socially acceptable language. I use the word
Speaker 4: kill when I kill, not because I'm blood thirsty, because
Speaker 4: it's honest and accurate.
Speaker 2: That's right. Oh, we can vote for that, Brent Clark.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Executive producer tier.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Jordan writes a new holiday tradition
Speaker 4: to the co chairman of the Only Podcast Best Enjoyed, Reclellly,
Speaker 4: Hope this finds you well. I'm writing to share some
Speaker 4: good news that will hopefully bring some joy to the
Speaker 4: Solar System's collective heart. Last Christmas, my brother, who is
Speaker 4: not a fan, was kind enough to gift me, a
Speaker 4: nearly thirty year old man, two tickets to the WW
Speaker 4: Holiday Tour in Baltimore. I've roped picked up with my
Speaker 4: parents into going with me again this year as a
Speaker 4: sort of new holiday tradition, at least for me. We're
Speaker 4: planning to dine at Sabatinos beforehand. That's the move right there.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's exactly what you do.
Speaker 4: Stroke of genius, as it seems the only appropriate choice
Speaker 4: other than maybe Jimmy Seafood. Anyway, just wanted to say
Speaker 4: that even in the grim darkness of the year twenty
Speaker 4: twenty four, we can start something new and hope for
Speaker 4: a brighter future. Mike writes Hbka's commentary on Sid's matches,
Speaker 4: it buried Alive. It's time in Main's thirteen. It took
Speaker 4: TLF to highlight how weird that is. He always takes
Speaker 4: focus away from Sid. Yep, yep, that was always the thing. Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm talking about taxidermy deer heads because Sid had one
Speaker 4: on his wall. Daniel wants us to know that he
Speaker 4: inherited two taxidermy deer heads through marriage, and these are
Speaker 4: the most creepy, ghoulish, harrowing, night Merrish items in my
Speaker 4: house extraordinarily uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: He writes, Yeah, I agree, and I don't think you
Speaker 2: need that.
Speaker 4: Says these two deerheads eyes follow me around our living room.
Speaker 4: The whole concept is alien and disturbing to me.
Speaker 2: Ooh, thought of Yeah, I don't find that okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely stops you in your tracks. Scott writes thought
Speaker 4: in the SID ninety six Survivors series entrance. It's funny
Speaker 4: that entrance, a stone cold killer, fist pumping fans who
Speaker 4: want him to kill. How simple it was, even with
Speaker 4: the fireworks. How that entrance sticks with me more than
Speaker 4: the Dog and Pony Show WrestleMania entrances. Maybe the man
Speaker 4: makes the entrance another the extra stuff. Maybe it used
Speaker 4: to be better, so true. I mean, think about the
Speaker 4: effort they put in these Mania entrances, and by the
Speaker 4: time night two is over, you maybe remember one of them?
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean, yeah, and hardly. I mean, And you
Speaker 2: know what's funny is that they go above and beyond
Speaker 2: with costumes and and uh uh, you know, lighting and
Speaker 2: music and pyro and all that stuff. Nothing's better than
Speaker 2: Sean Michael's on the zip line, right, you know, remember
Speaker 2: that shit way more than I remember anything else.
Speaker 4: So true, you know, it's anything else. You can do it,
Speaker 4: but just do it for one person or two people
Speaker 4: so it's memorable.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm getting a little annoyed with like this, fuck it,
Speaker 4: WrestleMania becoming like prom for these geeks.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Oh, totally is. It's exactly
Speaker 2: what it is. It's prom.
Speaker 4: Just it shows them to be so needy for like
Speaker 4: dress up. You know, stop stop, like not everybody needs
Speaker 4: a fucking marching band, ridiculous. It's because they're fucking assholes.
Speaker 4: It's just because they're they expect something out of wrestling
Speaker 4: that wrestling does not give to you, no matter how
Speaker 4: much is spent on you and how you know, gussied up,
Speaker 4: you feel it's like, that's not wrestling. Wrestling is not
Speaker 4: something that's going to make you feel like a fucking
Speaker 4: mythical superhero.
Speaker 2: Well, wrestling is well more importantly, maybe it'll make you
Speaker 2: feel like it if you're in the ring, but it's
Speaker 2: not meant that for the fans.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of what I mean. It's you not
Speaker 4: to come off that way. You're supposed to be there
Speaker 4: to do business. You're there to fucking kill somebody. And
Speaker 4: if you have to go through a twelve step choreographed
Speaker 4: fucking gimmick on the way to the ring, I just
Speaker 4: it takes it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: You have to be a special kind of athlete. And
Speaker 4: there are some combat athletes who can do this, who
Speaker 4: can have that kind of showmanship and still convince the
Speaker 4: public that they're they're there to kick ass. In wrestling
Speaker 4: where it's fake, should be a higher premium on preserving
Speaker 4: that intensity, yep, because you can't. You can't like Prince
Speaker 4: and I see him come out and just do a
Speaker 4: fucking dance routine and then whip somebody's ass in the
Speaker 4: boxing ring and no one can question the dancing routine
Speaker 4: because you whipped ass, you know.
Speaker 2: But I don't know that's what it is. So what
Speaker 2: do you want?
Speaker 4: Jeff says The amount of time I spend thinking about
Speaker 4: a case of Vienna sausages in exchange for an autograph picture,
Speaker 4: That's all he writes.
Speaker 2: It's so true. I can't I walk around thinking about
Speaker 2: it all the time. Yeah, it's so weird because I
Speaker 2: don't want, you know, I give my auto autograph picture.
Speaker 2: I give myself an autograph picture. Let me tell you
Speaker 2: what I did. Was I sent? I sent Saint Mary's Cathedral.
Speaker 2: I said, I'm one hundred and fifty kens of Vienna Sausages.
Speaker 2: And I set myself an autograph picture. I sent myself
Speaker 2: an autograph picture. Is that what he said? I sent myself?
Speaker 2: Now I set myself auto rap picture? What brother? I
Speaker 2: didn't say anything? Why not?
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Speaker 4: pretty good during a hangover. There you go, my god,
Speaker 4: A vote for consuming it is it elis rights. Having
Speaker 4: the SID tribute so close to the Terry Funk tribute
Speaker 4: is so serendipitous. Both sides of the coin of being
Speaker 4: a pro wrestler, one guy who gave everything he had
Speaker 4: to the business, one who took as much as he
Speaker 4: could from it while doing almost the absolute least he could.
Speaker 4: Both equally carny in their own way. Yeah, he gave everything.
Speaker 4: Terry Funk gave everything he had to the business, but
Speaker 4: he was very smart about not letting it take advantage
Speaker 4: of him. Sid was the SID took that to the extreme.
Speaker 4: But they were actually kind of kindred spirit in that way.
Speaker 4: They took off, you know, Sid and Funk no matter
Speaker 4: how big the opportunity, they were looking for a way
Speaker 4: out as soon as they got there. Louis writes, Hey, guys,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say I had much of an opinion one
Speaker 4: way or the other on Sid. He's just kind of there.
Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, your Tribute to Sid episodes have
Speaker 4: brought about this warm nostalgia for Sid and the nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety seven WWA product in general. Despite not living through
Speaker 4: this period as a fan anyways, the series has been
Speaker 4: some of your best work. Finished strong, and we're watching
Speaker 4: some of the pay per views of that era and
Speaker 4: re listening to your nineteen ninety seven journey In between
Speaker 4: the SID Tribute casts My thoughts have gone on a
Speaker 4: wild tangent imagining what might have happened if Sid struck
Speaker 4: around a little longer into the Attitude era. Would love
Speaker 4: to get your thoughts on what you picture it being
Speaker 4: like if Sid was amongst that early ninety eight boom
Speaker 4: an Austin versus Sid program. Sid was the higher power,
Speaker 4: or fuck put him in the nation of domination. One
Speaker 4: fantasy that did occur was old school brown outfit mankind
Speaker 4: teaming with Sid, who would lean far more into his
Speaker 4: psycho gimmick. Somehow this would have been This would have
Speaker 4: to be money. Maybe Sid could switch to brown trunks too.
Speaker 4: Oh god, I suppose he could find those trunks from
Speaker 4: where he had a poopoo explosion at WrestleMania a few
Speaker 4: months promer. Anyway, all the butt stuff, et cetera, Louis,
Speaker 4: how about that boss Sid?
Speaker 2: Anyway, all the butt stuff that's the best.
Speaker 4: Gets it way out of the way. How about Sid
Speaker 4: in the Attitude era.
Speaker 2: I just don't think. I think I don't think he
Speaker 2: would have fit. Really, I just I think it was
Speaker 2: too I think it was too manic. I think it
Speaker 2: was too ball to the wall. I just don't think
Speaker 2: he would have fit into that. I think I think
Speaker 2: he's a good segue into it. I just don't think
Speaker 2: he would have. I mean, I I don't know how
Speaker 2: I feel about and like you know, and especially at
Speaker 2: that time, he he just was not a good promoes
Speaker 2: Like you know, you look at you look at some
Speaker 2: of the earlier stuff, and you know, like that ninety
Speaker 2: two run, he's he's not making silly shit at all,
Speaker 2: like he's making sense, and by ninety six he's he's it's, it's,
Speaker 2: it's he's fallen down the road. Yes, And uh, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know, I don't I don't know
Speaker 2: if I just I don't I don't know if he
Speaker 2: would have really fit. I don't know if he would
Speaker 2: have been a good compliment to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right. There's a lot there's a
Speaker 4: lot more acting and being handed a script in the
Speaker 4: Attitude era than Sid would have been comfortable with.
Speaker 2: I think, I think, I mean, I also think too,
Speaker 2: I think you know, Sid in the Attitude era is
Speaker 2: what we saw in W CW. I don't think he
Speaker 2: would have you know, I think he would have been
Speaker 2: exposed more because everything was so uh, I mean, uh,
Speaker 2: it just it just felt so much more like just
Speaker 2: throwing shit against the wall and seeing what happens, see
Speaker 2: what sticks.
Speaker 4: And I honestly could see Russo looking at Sid in
Speaker 4: ninety eight WWF or ninety nine WWF and just like
Speaker 4: coming up with some really stupid, like goofy like comedy
Speaker 4: sne make like a priest or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you get a whole rapackaging, but
Speaker 4: he would lean into the kind of things that make
Speaker 4: Sid ludicrous to the point where I don't think he'd
Speaker 4: be a very effective, like world title challenging opponent in
Speaker 4: that structure. I think he would very easily, very quickly
Speaker 4: go from like what gold dust was in ninety five
Speaker 4: to what gold dust was in ninety eight, you know,
Speaker 4: just like totally totally turning up the aspects of the
Speaker 4: gimmick that are much better when subtly and minimally deployed
Speaker 4: and exposed, and just like cranking it up to where
Speaker 4: he'd probably he'd probably do some like incredibly cheesy thing
Speaker 4: where like he killed someone in cold blood or you know,
Speaker 4: or accidentally hit someone with a car because he's so
Speaker 4: crazy or something. Right, it'd just be I don't know,
Speaker 4: I think It would just call upon him to act
Speaker 4: too much, is what I'm trying to say. And we
Speaker 4: know from the sid journey that you cannot hand that manuscript,
Speaker 4: not that he doesn't want to do, you can't. He
Speaker 4: wouldn't be being capable of carrying those fifteen minute dogging
Speaker 4: segments that was required to be a top guy in
Speaker 4: that era. WWF Legion AOD, thank you very much for
Speaker 4: the pledge. We appreciate the sport. Andrew Trudeau, we see you,
Speaker 4: and thanks for bumping up what you send your co
Speaker 4: chairman's way. Jack recognizes the very dangerous question, so what.
Speaker 2: Is the kick? Carlo?
Speaker 4: I have to tell you, I don't remember what that was.
Speaker 4: I'm glad it's an important question, but I don't quite
Speaker 4: remember what I referred to always hate that in them
Speaker 4: feedback shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you can remind me. This one's from Josh Boss.
Speaker 2: Why don't you share what Josh has to say? Right Josh,
Speaker 2: Greetings from the Adirondacks. I'm hoping to get this in
Speaker 2: by the Fall mail Bag twenty twenty four, but if not,
Speaker 2: it's all good. Firstly, my dad is a huge lapsed
Speaker 2: fan wow, or at least lapsed by proxies. It's actually
Speaker 2: the second lapse thing he is. The first is a
Speaker 2: lapsed Catholic. His priest was Irish like my father. When
Speaker 2: they changed the priest with a Middle Eastern one who
Speaker 2: spoke very broken English that he could not understand. However,
Speaker 2: Dad played it like lapsed vince. I'm not being racist, truly,
Speaker 2: he isn't. It's the whole body and bread thing. He
Speaker 2: just couldn't believe saying magic words turns the water into
Speaker 2: the body of Jesus, to which I told him I'd
Speaker 2: rather not believe that every Sunday I'm eating over two
Speaker 2: thousand year old Jesus jerky. He laughed, and I knew
Speaker 2: at that point there were no sacred cows for him.
Speaker 2: He could handle that fucking cast. My dad isn't like
Speaker 2: a lot of the dads in the Lapse fan solar system.
Speaker 2: I've been a fan since I was like four years old.
Speaker 2: By the time Mains three came around, I knew it
Speaker 2: wasn't real. It was predetermined. Since then, he's followed me
Speaker 2: down the ringside rabbit hole in the in the ensuing
Speaker 2: so far forty years being an Andrea fan, I broke
Speaker 2: him in on an episode where laft Fins told Andre
Speaker 2: to do some top rope move and called Andrea the Giant,
Speaker 2: called him Andrea the Giant cunt. That one got me,
Speaker 2: Andrea the Giant Cunt. He's been a fan ever since.
Speaker 2: I've only gone to one wrestling event in my life.
Speaker 2: It was a Monday night raw in Lake Placid, New York.
Speaker 2: Lake Placid was home to the nineteen thirty two and
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty Winter Olympics, in fifteen minutes from my hometown
Speaker 2: of Saraenac. S Yeah, Saraenacy Lake Brother would this is
Speaker 2: the raw? Amed Johnson turned on the on the Taker
Speaker 2: and joined the nation. Oh you know who I was exciting?
Speaker 2: You know well, said Sarahnac Undertaking. Yeah, damn it. As
Speaker 2: soon as I came out of my mouth, I knew
Speaker 2: you were going to get it. Well, you know mentioned
Speaker 2: Undertaker right there for that. If he hadn't mentioned Undertaker,
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have got it, wouldn't have got him.
Speaker 2: It was exciting, even though the seats were way near
Speaker 2: the back. Still I got to witness Pillman, Austin Taker,
Speaker 2: gold Dust Heart Foundation all during the Attitude era. The
Speaker 2: youth group I was I was with said we had
Speaker 2: to go early, so I didn't get I didn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't get to see the dark match at the end
Speaker 2: one day. Like laps Jets Jesse, I went back. I'll
Speaker 2: go back until then. I have you two and the
Speaker 2: Solar System excellent.
Speaker 4: Love it, great stuff, love that inspired Missive There Kaypo's
Speaker 4: back and he's got an email entitled Sid to your
Speaker 4: co chairs. First of all, I want to commend you
Speaker 4: both for an amazing tribute Psycho Sid and his accomplishments
Speaker 4: as well as blunders and pro wrestling. I wanted to
Speaker 4: share my memories of Sid Udi. Hopefully the email isn't
Speaker 4: too long. It's not started watching wrestling full time in
Speaker 4: June of nineteen ninety eight, and it was strictly WCW
Speaker 4: because my mom wouldn't let me watch WWF because of boobs.
Speaker 2: But I knew.
Speaker 4: But I knew of wrestling from my older cousins and
Speaker 4: playing sn e s. They had WWF, Super WrestleMania, and
Speaker 4: I always played a Sid Justice. Did you ever play
Speaker 4: Sid Justice and Super WrestleMania?
Speaker 2: Boss? I don't. I didn't have I didn't have a
Speaker 2: Super Super Nintendo. Was he in Monday Night Raw or
Speaker 2: Royal Rumble. No, he was gone by Oh my god,
Speaker 2: that was my first time. I think the only one
Speaker 2: he was in was it was the Super WrestleMania for SUPERNW.
Speaker 4: Is gonna say it's it right? Was he in the
Speaker 4: the nes Wrestling Challenge for the Cage?
Speaker 2: No he was, Yeah, he was in Steel Cage Challenge
Speaker 2: A challenge, Okay, yes he was.
Speaker 4: When I got into wrestling, I rented every video that
Speaker 4: my local Blockbuster had and saw Sid in various tapes.
Speaker 4: He was in a couple of w W tapes they had,
Speaker 4: and of course Rumble ninety two and WrestleMania eight, and
Speaker 4: I acquired WrestleMania eleven nine, I think he says eleven
Speaker 4: eleven from another video store. So I saw Sid there too.
Speaker 4: Top that with buying a Wow magazine in early nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety nine and there was a full page picture of
Speaker 4: Sid from MECW. So Sid was always around, but I
Speaker 4: never saw him wrestle live until he came back to
Speaker 4: WCW in nineteen ninety nine. Now, and he came back,
Speaker 4: I thought it was kind of a goof. He was
Speaker 4: Randy Savage's lackey and probably the driver of the White Hummer.
Speaker 4: But his match against Sting at Roadewild nineteen ninety nine
Speaker 4: made me a believer.
Speaker 2: Wow, there you go.
Speaker 4: Sid thought that match was going to be a huge
Speaker 4: career changer for him, going over Sting clean and no
Speaker 4: one gave a fuck.
Speaker 2: Pekai Bomer gave a fuck.
Speaker 4: I still remember the finishing sequence, which has something about
Speaker 4: its place in my wrestling memory. Sting hits a super
Speaker 4: blacks on Sid and said just no. Selse gets back
Speaker 4: to his feet, puts himself in the corner. Sting hits
Speaker 4: two Stinger splashes, and when he goes for the third one,
Speaker 4: Sid catches him with a goozle and give him a
Speaker 4: choke slam and pins him clean.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: Pos, that was on the Millennium Man tape. Yes, I
Speaker 4: remember Servanni just being in shock and as a Sting fan,
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it. I mean that was Sting he
Speaker 4: beat decisively.
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 4: I thought he ended up getting a raw deal, even
Speaker 4: though he held the w state be titled for a bit.
Speaker 4: Just seemed like he was there and never really showcase.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 4: A little bit of a nitro deal actues, which could
Speaker 4: also be as fault as you guys expertly uncovered his
Speaker 4: transgressions in the wrestling business throughout the years. Another thing
Speaker 4: I remembered, based off some of the stores you Guys
Speaker 4: Unearthed stories, rather you Guys unearthed, was that there was
Speaker 4: a forgettable backstage segment from WCW Fallbrowl nineteen ninety eight
Speaker 4: in which Scott Steiner is trying to get out of
Speaker 4: a match with his brother Rick by feigning an injury.
Speaker 4: He put a small band aid on the inside of
Speaker 4: his bicep and another small band aid on the outside
Speaker 4: of his bicep and said he couldn't wrestle Rick because
Speaker 4: he was hurt. JJ Dillon didn't buy it and made
Speaker 4: Scott wrestle his brother or be barred from WCW for life.
Speaker 4: When you Guys mentioned the squeegee confrontation Sid had with
Speaker 4: Mike Graham where he couldn't fight because of his injury
Speaker 4: and the band aid on his arm, I immediately thought
Speaker 4: of this segment, which was probably a rib on Sid. Yes,
Speaker 4: I think we even touched on that. Yeah, it was definitely.
Speaker 4: I think Mike Graham was an agent for ww at
Speaker 4: the times, so that makes sense. One more story, but
Speaker 4: this one was a little not safe for work. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's do it, brother.
Speaker 2: I had various tapes in.
Speaker 4: My library that were paused at a certain time when
Speaker 4: there was a bikini segment or something like that, I,
Speaker 4: as a horny adolescent, could master bait two. One of
Speaker 4: these tapes was WW hollywn Havoc nineteen ninety nine. At
Speaker 4: this event, Medusa walks out in a bikini to promote
Speaker 4: the WW Nitro cologne that Bobby Heenon describes as smelling
Speaker 4: like the men's room at.
Speaker 2: The Newark Airport. Well, hey, you know what happens.
Speaker 4: Imagine being the cologne licensee and watching the WW show
Speaker 4: to see her cologne advertise, and Bobby Heenon calls it that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine that would have been a little rough.
Speaker 4: I would wank to Medusa walking out when and when
Speaker 4: I was done, I'd rewind it to the beginning of
Speaker 4: the segment for the next time. But sometimes I rewind
Speaker 4: too much and get the segment right before, which was
Speaker 4: Sidy yelling let it bleed after getting oh god, busted
Speaker 4: open by Goldberg backstage. If the tape started there the
Speaker 4: next time, it was an instant boner killer.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd imagine that all the ways to remember that
Speaker 4: infamous Cid Goldberg Halloween havoc. That's how Kayper remembers it. Anyway,
Speaker 4: thank you guys for all you do. I'll have another
Speaker 4: emailk qued up based in the fiftieth Big State Time
Speaker 4: fiftieth State Big Time Wrestling, But this one is all
Speaker 4: about the Master and the ruler of the world when
Speaker 4: we look forward to them. Such a great wrestling history
Speaker 4: and tradition in Hawaii. Undertold, undertold for sure. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: Clint points out a good one. We were wondering why
Speaker 4: Arne would settle his lawsuit against sid for the stabbing
Speaker 4: all those years later in nineteen ninety seven. Yeah, so,
Speaker 4: if you think about it, arn was just a few
Speaker 4: months away from announcing his retirement when the lawsuit was settled.
Speaker 4: I think he and his wife just had a second
Speaker 4: baby too. I remember him talking about the anxiety he
Speaker 4: was feeling about having to be retired with the two kids.
Speaker 4: He wasn't even forty yet. Maybe he saw his financial
Speaker 4: situation was changing and realized the lawsuit wasn't the best
Speaker 4: thing to spend his money on. It's a good guess,
Speaker 4: really good guess. If he'd say a word about it,
Speaker 4: we would know for sure. But he doesn't, so that's that.
Speaker 4: Josh Beckham, thank you very much for the pledge. We
Speaker 4: appreciate the support. Mark Beer, thank you very much. Steve writes,
Speaker 4: I wonder if what Vince loved most about the CID
Speaker 4: stabbing is that arn Anderson left Vince for Turner and
Speaker 4: his punishment was being stabbed. Also, Boss would love Fantagio.
Speaker 4: That was the wrestler who was the magician we talked
Speaker 4: briefly about during his WF tryout. His liquid flames set
Speaker 4: the gorilla position to blaze and almost burnt Bruce Pritchard
Speaker 4: to death in the process. Yes, I have heard Bruce
Speaker 4: tell that story on his podcast, which is fucking hilarious.
Speaker 4: So close did Tom sellek like a pervert on Friends?
Speaker 4: He thinks he did, Sean Wright Sid being Yeah, I
Speaker 4: don't remember Sid being a salesman as the real life
Speaker 4: equivalent of the coin toss scene from No Country for
Speaker 4: Old Men, Zach writes, twenty five minute, Mark Jack spoke
Speaker 4: words that were pulled from my deepest, deepest truth. I
Speaker 4: watch movies, TV shows, read books and magazines from the
Speaker 4: seventies through mid nineties because I wish I was my
Speaker 4: age during those times not a kid my age. I
Speaker 4: could drive those cars brand new. I could be in
Speaker 4: my current job at in a time with no fucking
Speaker 4: internet or cell phones. I could eat all the food
Speaker 4: without the constant kilt and doubt of how bad it
Speaker 4: all is.
Speaker 2: Subpoint.
Speaker 4: I know McDonald's is shitty food, but damn do I
Speaker 4: miss a time when you could go to McDonald's or gasp,
Speaker 4: take your child there and not seem like your low
Speaker 4: brow or being a negligent to your and their health.
Speaker 4: I could go to every Monday Night Ron nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 4: I would be at every classic pay per view. There
Speaker 4: are thousands of scenes and images from those movies and
Speaker 4: shows I just want to teleport into, most of which
Speaker 4: are mundane. Sure, there are lots of great things about now,
Speaker 4: but damn does it look like it used to be better?
Speaker 2: That is the point. I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's not because I want to be young again, It's
Speaker 4: because I want to be an adult. Then looks like, Yes,
Speaker 4: it looks like a great fucking deal without all the
Speaker 4: bullshit on fire highlights. Thank you very much for your pledge,
Speaker 4: Brian Wright. Welcome into the inner circle. Yeah that's true.
Speaker 4: This is a great one.
Speaker 2: From Habib.
Speaker 4: Honestly, what's missing in the Muffler discussion on the Greed
Speaker 4: pay per view episode Muffler is when you stick toilet
Speaker 4: paper up your ass crack and go out for wrestle
Speaker 4: so that you don't leak ass sweat through your trunks
Speaker 4: like Dusty.
Speaker 2: I don't see what the problem is. Talk about how
Speaker 2: Dusty wrestled with no underwear on genes.
Speaker 4: Agreed, but how he points out. What's being missed in
Speaker 4: this discussion is the need to have wide adoption of bedets.
Speaker 2: Boss. What's your experience with bidets? If any o them?
Speaker 2: Oh saw stream up the ass, love it? If there's
Speaker 2: one hotel you're using it. I I listen, we have
Speaker 2: we we you know we got we got a tushy.
Speaker 2: You know what I didn't know? Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like basically a you can you know, it's not
Speaker 2: like a full blown but you can just install it
Speaker 2: in your own toilet and it's absolutely remarkable. I can't listen, Honestly,
Speaker 2: I can't take a ship with that one.
Speaker 7: Now. Wow.
Speaker 2: I just I don't feel I don't feel clean. I
Speaker 2: do not feel clean. I was very wary of it
Speaker 2: when we got it. I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think I need I want something kind of
Speaker 2: spraying up my anus. But but it is a very
Speaker 2: se satisfying thing. I did not I did not know
Speaker 2: that was coming. I really I think you could tell
Speaker 2: like one story when you stayed in Belgium about how
Speaker 2: you used to use it. Now, No, I mean I'd
Speaker 2: never use one until we got until we got the one,
Speaker 2: uh in our in our bathroom, I'd never use one before.
Speaker 4: Amazing, So highest recommendation then, absolutely. Do you just should
Speaker 4: it right up your asshole? Or do you like go
Speaker 4: back and forth?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: I do it back and forth. I do a little
Speaker 2: rocking thing like I'm just a commentary. He was rocking.
Speaker 4: I saw a few angles he was doing. It still
Speaker 4: does not amazing, but points out the Western world is
Speaker 4: no doubt superior to the Middle East with this one exception.
Speaker 4: Post defication, care is no laughing matter. One thing I
Speaker 4: noticed when I came back from a rock is how
Speaker 4: some people here smell like shit, sometimes not a euphemism,
Speaker 4: like actual shit. It occurred to me that there were
Speaker 4: legions of us walking around with dookie in our ass needlessly.
Speaker 4: It's a simple fix. Call me a Bidet evangelist.
Speaker 2: M it's a wonderful thing. It's amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there cleaner asses in other parts of the world.
Speaker 4: That yeah, embrace that.
Speaker 2: Faine rights.
Speaker 4: I got a side with Sid against Arno. Sid has
Speaker 4: probably gone off those somas and had some of that
Speaker 4: stella the wife beater in him. Arn has always been
Speaker 4: one of those guys that's never the bride but always
Speaker 4: the bridesmaid, and Eric pulling some dumb shit to get
Speaker 4: sit out because they didn't want to pay him pretty much.
Speaker 4: Cements it that there was a lot more to the story. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's true. They were trying to figure out contractual terms
Speaker 4: after this happened. They were not trying to fire Sid.
Speaker 4: I think that's what sure that we established and Fane
Speaker 4: comes down strong on one side, on popular side, but
Speaker 4: one side nonetheless. Rich Molton, thank you very much for
Speaker 4: your pledge. Quick to have you in the solar system.
Speaker 4: De Wu, thank you very much for the cake. We
Speaker 4: appreciate the support. Same to you, Shane Sinclair, let's see
Speaker 4: mister as thank you. I met Javed, Thank you very much, Bruno,
Speaker 4: thanks for the cake. Iron McReynolds. We love the support
Speaker 4: and thank you very much. William wonders, what if Vader
Speaker 4: just grabs Scorpio's hash brick and shoved it into his mouth?
Speaker 4: No questions, asked Scorpio, This hash tastes like fucking shit,
Speaker 4: where's the corn beef? Two cold? Just sits there mouth Agate.
Speaker 4: Vader choose and choose. That's how he ends up at
Speaker 4: his underwear in the lobby.
Speaker 2: I think that's totally fine. Yeah, I'm kind of with
Speaker 2: all that.
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, okay, let's see, this is taking us back.
Speaker 4: I think to the inn where it all happened. Right,
Speaker 4: you have many things, he writes, interesting lapsed connection for
Speaker 4: Antonina Roca. He apparently introduced Lenny Montana to the mobsters
Speaker 4: that would get him involved in organized crime, as Rocca
Speaker 4: was a dining guest with various mafia members. The mob
Speaker 4: loved rubbing shoulders with Italian American athletes in New York,
Speaker 4: even if they were frauds. Yes, that was always something
Speaker 4: Bruno was very sensitive about, these dinners that he would
Speaker 4: that he would be able to go to after the matches.
Speaker 4: Absolute in the north end of the little mind. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think we know what's going on there, we know absolutely. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So the stabbing in England the hotel that the stabbing
Speaker 4: happened in. Stephen writes, what's never discussed and considered? It
Speaker 4: was the early nineties. Has it ever been considered this
Speaker 4: was a family run establishment who had to suffer Carney's
Speaker 4: stabbing each other and wandering around and only underpants, screaming
Speaker 4: for food, possibly mere feet from their own private quarters. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I didn't really consider the regular guests during all this, Jason,
Speaker 4: Why doesn't anyone ever cover the second near murder that
Speaker 4: happened during that fateful night in England? After the Arnsid
Speaker 4: stabbing match ended and people were taken to the hospital
Speaker 4: to cold, Scorpio told Vader he could come up to
Speaker 4: my room to finish this hash if he wanted, since
Speaker 4: it was such a stressful night. Vader goes up and
Speaker 4: flies into a rage. Where's the hash? Scorpio's like, here
Speaker 4: hit this. Vader didn't want a joint. He wanted hash
Speaker 4: corn beef and.
Speaker 2: Hash smart, very exactly different kind of hash. That's what
Speaker 2: he wants.
Speaker 4: They had a knockdown, drag down brawl until other wrestlers
Speaker 4: could lure Vader away with a Mars Barken just like
Speaker 4: leading him by the note Jake Connark thank you very
Speaker 4: much for the pledge. Sam O'Connor, appreciate the big voter
Speaker 4: support there and climbing all up.
Speaker 7: That that.
Speaker 2: TLF Tree, Cody Hinkele, thanks very much for the pledge.
Speaker 2: We like you very much.
Speaker 4: Steven said, I believe Jack is right about Arn never
Speaker 4: discussing the stabbing publicly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I got a lot of support in that one. So
Speaker 4: I'm glad I didn't miss anything, because I really would
Speaker 4: like to know one one emotion Arnt has thinking back
Speaker 4: on that day.
Speaker 2: But I know, could you just get one, Just give
Speaker 2: me one fucking reaction there absolutely nothing, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I will not. I will not.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what we've we've heard all these years. Garrek Taylor,
Speaker 4: thanks for all the support.
Speaker 2: Sure what this is.
Speaker 4: Let's see, William Webb, I'm not a great boss. I
Speaker 4: mostly just want to do my job with mental interference
Speaker 4: to your jobs. I'm fine. Oh, I think he's talking
Speaker 4: about Okay, we talk about waffle House, as we always do.
Speaker 4: Waffle House always comes up, of course. William Wrights, gentlemen,
Speaker 4: I would like to share something. I work as an
Speaker 4: overnight department manager at a grocery store and we share
Speaker 4: a parking lot with waffle house. As far as waffle
Speaker 4: houses go, I guess it's very good. With plea, I
Speaker 4: guess it's very good. Police only showing up once or
Speaker 4: twice a night. We have vendors who come in during
Speaker 4: my shift and I have to check them in since
Speaker 4: the doors are locked. After closing, the vendors will tap
Speaker 4: on the glass with their keys to alert us. Thanks
Speaker 4: to that cast, which I listen to every night, I
Speaker 4: have this fever dream about wrestlers coming to the door
Speaker 4: and tapping, but with a fork instead of keys. Often
Speaker 4: it's John Tenta. However, after this it's definitely Vader, who
Speaker 4: has cleaned out the waffle house, but he isn't satisfied.
Speaker 4: Let men, I know you've got waffles in there. To me,
Speaker 4: I'm still hungry. I'll lead him frozen. I don't care
Speaker 4: give you waffles. He sees a pallette of eggoes and
Speaker 4: just charges at it. Yeah, splashes into it, smashing them,
Speaker 4: eating the box, smashing open cases about cases of breakfast goods,
Speaker 4: and stuffing his face with the frozen, crumbly tetritus.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, I'm not a great box. It's all real,
Speaker 2: it's all real. Oh, my god, I can see it.
Speaker 2: I can see it now.
Speaker 4: He paints such a vivid picture. Scott Arnold. Thanks for
Speaker 4: the support, Adam writes, I'm just going to share this.
Speaker 4: It's easy enough to find Sid's a bituary online, and
Speaker 4: being that the human condition is both hilarious and depressing,
Speaker 4: some of the comments are exactly what you'd expect talking
Speaker 4: about you know, how you can add comments and someone's
Speaker 4: obituary online. One thing that's stuck with me, and we'll
Speaker 4: probably do so over quite some time is the comment
Speaker 4: someone made explaining that Sid introduced him to sushi.
Speaker 2: Wow, with that, what you will? You know when I
Speaker 2: was in Japan you can hear it now. Oh boy,
Speaker 2: I used to love the sausages y heat.
Speaker 4: Thanks for the pledge, Miles, Thanks for the pledge, Ronnie,
Speaker 4: thanks for the pledged DP Thanks for the doubling of
Speaker 4: said pledge. Matt Anderson. Welcome to the EP here, Anthony Rossi,
Speaker 4: Welcome to the EP tier. Christopher Bizzolo, Welcome to the
Speaker 4: EP tier. Welcome Jesse Harrison, Welcome DJ Smitty, and welcome
Speaker 4: Michael Caaprio. These are all EP motherfuckers going all the way.
Speaker 4: Man Akaliko I hope I'm saying that right. Thank you
Speaker 4: very much for the support. Ken Riegel, thank you very
Speaker 4: much for the help. And uh, Stephen, Peterisee and Thane
Speaker 4: Warre who we've called out, thank you very much for
Speaker 4: the support. Brian Sweeney, thanks for pumping up. Jason Powell,
Speaker 4: We appreciate your support. Corey in Winnipeg answers our question,
Speaker 4: who's the first bad guy you cheered for? Remember we
Speaker 4: talked about that along the way first bad guy you
Speaker 4: cheered for? Conversation. He writes to be very different from me.
Speaker 4: I'm sure I must have at one pointment pulling for
Speaker 4: a heel earlier than this, but at nineteen eighty six
Speaker 4: was the year I remember mainly che to cheering for
Speaker 4: heels Orndorf, Savage and Jake on TV plus the Horsemen
Speaker 4: through magazines. Sid's ara and reactions were among the best
Speaker 4: in the business, even if his ring skills can't match
Speaker 4: up to them. Yeah, we were talking about how Sid
Speaker 4: got those huge reactions in eighty nine despite never being
Speaker 4: presented anything close to a babyface in NBA, and so yeah,
Speaker 4: I can see that there were definitely there was definitely
Speaker 4: an undercurrent during the Rock and wrestling era of cheering
Speaker 4: for the heels, no question, like if you Paul Ardroff
Speaker 4: would get huge reactions. People were so ready to cheer
Speaker 4: for him when they were allowed to in eighty six
Speaker 4: because even during his run with Hogan in some towns
Speaker 4: he would get huge reactions. And Randy Savage, he was
Speaker 4: just too fucking amazing in the ring, you know, yep, yeah,
Speaker 4: I hate a guy that double access to the floor
Speaker 4: like that for very long. Chris turg l Fierira, thank
Speaker 4: you very much for the pledge and welcome into our
Speaker 4: inner circle.
Speaker 2: Boss.
Speaker 4: Hear something Charles from Albany's Schenectady and he was at
Speaker 4: the ninety two rumble.
Speaker 2: He wants us to know.
Speaker 4: Which is fucking I can imagine having been there or
Speaker 4: what that was like. But here's the uh, here's the words.
Speaker 2: All right, dear co chairman, It's time. After all these
Speaker 2: years of lurking in the shadows of my guilt, never
Speaker 2: sending an email, never acknowledging me on a holy impact
Speaker 2: you've had in my life, I figured it's about time
Speaker 2: I broke the silence. I've been listening since day one
Speaker 2: on Wrestle Zone. Yes, that horrendous media player experience. We're
Speaker 2: just getting through. One episode felt like a sixty minute
Speaker 2: iron Man match with dial up internet, back when we
Speaker 2: had to fight for our hashtag shelf life content before
Speaker 2: it was cool. But here's the thing, despite your relentless
Speaker 2: and soul piercing demands for Patreon dollars, I mean, after all,
Speaker 2: you deserve it. I've never sent a dime, not one
Speaker 2: red scent. And do I feel bad? Of course not? Why, because, gentlemen,
Speaker 2: I'm a heel, a terrible person, really, the kind of
Speaker 2: person who consumed without giving. In each new watching my
Speaker 2: wallets like it's the last time Triple h held on
Speaker 2: to the title. I don't intend to give either. Not
Speaker 2: because you don't deserve it, you absolutely do, but because well,
Speaker 2: we can't all be heroes, and I'm like Brett, I
Speaker 2: don't want to be. Now, let's talk about the more
Speaker 2: intimate side of this relationship. It's hard to find words
Speaker 2: to describe the experience of having my rectum forcibly penetrated
Speaker 2: by each episode. Stretched doesn't quite cover it. It's more
Speaker 2: like a deep spiritual rearrangement, as if each well placed dig,
Speaker 2: each impersonation, each harrowing collection of the business shreds the
Speaker 2: very fabric of my soul like an unholy body slam
Speaker 2: to my coloness. That makes me ask myself, what am
Speaker 2: I doing with my life? Why do I keep coming
Speaker 2: back for more? Well you know the answer. It's because
Speaker 2: I need it? And why? Now you ask what could
Speaker 2: possibly prompt this email? After all these years of silence.
Speaker 2: I was re listening to your back last two thousand
Speaker 2: and four episode because yes, your podcast has hashtag shelf life,
Speaker 2: and it hit me this was the final push I needed. Yep?
Speaker 2: Was this the birth of the lapse editor? The moment
Speaker 2: when that character, the epitome of editorial disdain was conjured
Speaker 2: from the depths of your collective minds? If so, bravo.
Speaker 2: I'll pay for that kind of genius, but we've already
Speaker 2: established I'm not going to do that. Right, keep doing
Speaker 2: what you do. I'll keep not paying but needing every
Speaker 2: SICI anally wrecked listener. That's funny. I like that he was.
Speaker 4: It is grappling with quite a bit, there wasn't he. Indeed,
Speaker 4: you know what, Brian Blake wasn't grappling with what to
Speaker 4: do with the face of the Vienna stuff. We we
Speaker 4: failed to mention this, but he sent us a receipt
Speaker 4: delivered September twenty fifth to the receptionist or someone at
Speaker 4: the front desk of Saint Mary's Episcopal in Memphis, was
Speaker 4: a can of armor Vienna sausage smoked. Wow, he sent it,
Speaker 4: and I love it so much, so everyone in the
Speaker 4: Vienna spirit as we sate Sid.
Speaker 2: It's just tremendous. That's just fucking funniest shit ever.
Speaker 4: These little cans of meat. Yep, you know, to cause
Speaker 4: such a sensation. Ethan writes, Rip Sid and condolences to
Speaker 4: his son Frankfurt or Udy. I've already listened to bart
Speaker 4: one twice instant classic. You two never failed to deliver
Speaker 4: the Vienna's He says, Is it just me? Or did
Speaker 4: Sid's hair look like someone poured a cup of wet
Speaker 4: Ramen noodles on his head?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: For that reason, one hundred percent correct, and says I
Speaker 4: could never get behind him one hundred percent. See, I
Speaker 4: always thought Sid's hair was a plus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's right in saying that it looks like
Speaker 2: Ramanus because that I like Ramen. Yeah, just another way
Speaker 2: of saying that, I suppose Jessev.
Speaker 4: Thank you for the pledge my friend Stuart William.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Andy.
Speaker 4: We appreciate your help. Mark Hutchinson, thanks for the support.
Speaker 4: Nick Osipoff, Washa Andrea, thank you very much for joining
Speaker 4: the executive producer tier on Patreon.
Speaker 2: Marty F.
Speaker 4: Shells, Rene Greater Carl from Saint Louis longtime supporter. It's
Speaker 4: great to see all these names putting their money where
Speaker 4: their mouth is. Dirger writes, interesting hearing the Squeezee story
Speaker 4: regarding Sid. I can relay the version that was told
Speaker 4: to me in ninety eight, ninety nine by someone that
Speaker 4: says they were there. I'm pretty sure they worked for
Speaker 4: WWF at the time, but it's fifty to fifty they
Speaker 4: got the story from someone else. No, that makes sense
Speaker 4: because don't forget Sid was in WWF when this happened, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: and Pillman was in ww and they were in the
Speaker 4: same hotel. Anyways, the version I have no mention of Mike,
Speaker 4: just Pillman. No Mike Graham, who tells the best version
Speaker 4: of the story that we shared in the episode, but
Speaker 4: his mention Mike, this story has just Pilman getting into
Speaker 4: it with Sid physically, with Pilman getting the better of
Speaker 4: it and said, says something like you wait right here.
Speaker 4: I'm going to get something on my truck to take
Speaker 4: care of you. And he leaves and everyone is thinking
Speaker 4: he's getting a knife or a hammer or a gun,
Speaker 4: so they're all kind of nervous. But he comes back
Speaker 4: with a squeegee and act like it's a handgun, pointing
Speaker 4: it at people. Yep, everyone bursts into laughter, and he
Speaker 4: just turns around and leaves and not close to the
Speaker 4: accounts in the episode, and probably further from the truth
Speaker 4: than anything, but I was fun It's funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that idea.
Speaker 4: That the reason it was so ridiculous, and the reason said,
Speaker 4: we're trying to bring a squegee in. It's not because
Speaker 4: he thought a squegee would be menacing, but because he
Speaker 4: thought he could pass it off as a gun. Yes, right,
Speaker 4: And that's that's hilarious to picture Sid with a squege
Speaker 4: in his hand trying to convince people it's a gun.
Speaker 4: That's that's something said would definitely do. So, oh, he
Speaker 4: definitely would do that.
Speaker 2: Giro Vargas, thank you very much for the pledge. We
Speaker 2: appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Miley Ripley, thanks for the support. This is a great
Speaker 4: point by ar Ronaldi. I will kill you, sid to
Speaker 4: one of his best friends downtown.
Speaker 2: Bruno, I don't kill you. We were just talking about
Speaker 2: this guy wants you to look at me right now.
Speaker 2: I will fucking kill you. You know why, don't kill
Speaker 2: you because you're my friend. In the middle of the night,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill you in the same hotel room. You
Speaker 2: don't even know you can You won't even you won't
Speaker 2: even know. You can't sleep, can you? Bruno? I can't
Speaker 2: sleep either. Bruno won't sleep. Bruno can't sleep?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 2: What can't sleep? Bruno? Bruno? You sleep? I know you're not.
Speaker 2: I know you can't sleep because I can't sleep. I
Speaker 2: won't sleep. I don't sleep. Now, worn't bit of the pool. Now,
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do about her? Bruno? When you
Speaker 2: got going on down there? You're gonna do about the
Speaker 2: fact that I can't sleep. What are you gonna do
Speaker 2: about the fact that I'm not sleeping, Well, you gonna do.
Speaker 2: But the fact that I'm just gonna se in my
Speaker 2: bad I'm gonna watch you sleep. When you sleep, you're
Speaker 2: gonna feel my eyes burn in the back of your skull,
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna wake up, and you're gonna find
Speaker 2: out that I drove a hole in the back of
Speaker 2: your head and letting you bleed out and kill you. Bruno,
Speaker 2: when you wake up in the morning, you're gonna be dead.
Speaker 2: It's not there is a promise to guarantee. And I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna see you're watching. I'm gonna kill you. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna kill you. I kill you, I kill you.
Speaker 4: Jeff has a great question. Can we get Vienna by
Speaker 4: Billy Joel and lap Sid's voice. That's when we haven't tried.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know Billy Joel had a song called Vienna.
Speaker 2: Now you do? And what do you do with that information?
Speaker 2: Is the question?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 2: That is that is always the thing. Although you won't
Speaker 2: be able to hear it though, but I and I'm
Speaker 2: sure I can read the lyrics. I don't know how
Speaker 2: it goes.
Speaker 5: So down.
Speaker 8: You're crazy child, You're so ambitious for a juvenile But
Speaker 8: then as you're so smart, tell me why you're still
Speaker 8: so afraid? Where's the fire? What's the hurry about? You
Speaker 8: better cool off before you burn it out. You got
Speaker 8: so much to do and only so many hours.
Speaker 2: In a day. Hey, but you know the woe that
Speaker 2: truth is told. You can get what you want or
Speaker 2: you can just get old. That's really good.
Speaker 8: You're gonna kick off before you even get halfway through
Speaker 8: when you realize.
Speaker 2: Waits for you. That's awesome.
Speaker 4: I like the using vienna like it's plural, like I
Speaker 4: have a vienna and I have vienna.
Speaker 2: You know, yes, right, if you have multiple vienna heard
Speaker 2: of this. Further to the squeegee story, Stephen writes, my
Speaker 2: favorite story around the squegee incident is a few days later,
Speaker 2: Sting and Cactus Jack had a no DQ match in
Speaker 2: a house show, and they did a spot where Cactus
Speaker 2: pulled out a squeegee and Stings started begging off like
Speaker 2: Cactus was holding a knife. That's great funny.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that this is from Lee and Mona
Speaker 4: Rogers and it's entitled and I think this is going
Speaker 4: to really hold some potential. Uh Sydney and the grocery
Speaker 4: store take it away, boss.
Speaker 2: And it's just hello, guys. I just have one story
Speaker 2: on the Master and Rule of the world. I live
Speaker 2: in Memphis, Tennessee. I've lived here my entire life and never,
Speaker 2: not one single time, had I ever met Lord Humongous.
Speaker 2: I have zero reasons to be at a softball field,
Speaker 2: so that eliminated one path. I love wrestling, I love
Speaker 2: love pro wrestling, but I never went to many shows.
Speaker 2: I never went to Channel five on Saturday mornings. No
Speaker 2: mid South Colisseum shows, no raws, no house shows. I
Speaker 2: only went to one WCW Nitro in October nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 2: and Psycho sid was on his way to Survivor Series
Speaker 2: ninety six. Fast forward to May twenty twenty. Dark times, gentlemen,
Speaker 2: Dark dark times. We all remember that period. I've worked
Speaker 2: retail most jobs most of my life, and during that
Speaker 2: time I worked at the fresh Market grocery store on
Speaker 2: Union Ab in Memphis, only a ten minute drive and
Speaker 2: you're crossing into Arkansas. So on a pretty chaotic day
Speaker 2: early in the pandemic, I was working alone, unloading the
Speaker 2: truck and stalking show else, probably listening to Pain on
Speaker 2: the Pacific. My closest friend, who worked there and bakery,
Speaker 2: knew I was a lifelong wrestling fan. She wasn't, but
Speaker 2: would tell me a wrestler would come in there every
Speaker 2: now and again and people would point him out. I
Speaker 2: had a hunch it wasn't Jerry Lawler. Don't picture King
Speaker 2: shopping there. Hello, well, I thought it could be said vicious,
Speaker 2: and on this day she ran over to me to
Speaker 2: tell me he was there, and it was Sid beauty
Speaker 2: or Raymond beauty. He was tall, he was noticed with thinner,
Speaker 2: still had the curly hair, was wearing blue, was wearing
Speaker 2: khaki pants rather a sweatshirt, and more importantly for me,
Speaker 2: at least, he was wearing a mask. We were at
Speaker 2: a pretty scary time with COVID, and most folks wore
Speaker 2: the mask. He carried his basket around and I watched
Speaker 2: him go to the meat counter, deli and bakery. Then
Speaker 2: he was in my section, which was the grocery side.
Speaker 2: I was doing my thing, and he came over and
Speaker 2: asked if we had mint jelly. Oh my god, he
Speaker 2: did not say that mint you got? I ask you
Speaker 2: something very simple. You got mint jelly for lamb chops.
Speaker 2: I remember thinking vern didn't train, so all right, no shit,
Speaker 2: and guys, our shelves were basically empty. During this time,
Speaker 2: we had practically nothing. He then asked if we had
Speaker 2: hemp seeds. Another no. He really didn't look happy, and
Speaker 2: I thought about offering him the chance to power bomb
Speaker 2: me pillman style, but we were in a serious time.
Speaker 2: As he was checking out, I walked by just to
Speaker 2: show him an inventory, an order sheet that showed we
Speaker 2: put in orders for the hemp seed weeks prior and
Speaker 2: things just weren't coming. He mentioned he drove a good
Speaker 2: bit to get there, you know, for he's such a complainer.
Speaker 2: He complains on the WW tape having to show up. Yep,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't want to show up here.
Speaker 2: He mentioned he drove a I said sorry. I gave
Speaker 2: him a ton of of friends and family coupons, and
Speaker 2: he seemed appreciative. I did tell him I was a
Speaker 2: lifelong fan of wrestling. He asked if I was a
Speaker 2: fan of his. Lol. He offered an autograph. You want
Speaker 2: autograph picture? I want to tell you what you want
Speaker 2: a picture? You gotta buy me one hundred and fifty cans.
Speaker 2: Cans by me, one hundred and fifty cans.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 2: I was thirty four years old, so autographs weren't a
Speaker 2: huge priority of my life, but I graciously accepted. He
Speaker 2: saw my friend looking on and asked for her name.
Speaker 2: I said Mona. He signed it and playfully gave her
Speaker 2: grief for not having the desserts. He wanted, and then
Speaker 2: Mona was like, yeah, I really appreciate you and shop Mona,
Speaker 2: I want you to look me right in the eye.
Speaker 2: I want you to understand something. I'm a master and
Speaker 2: the ruler of the world, and you get me what
Speaker 2: I fucking want. We're the only one going to be
Speaker 2: Moana and Mona is you want to power bombinging through
Speaker 2: the earth? Ah? She keeps telling U. Mona and I
Speaker 2: recently got married and I told her about Sid's passing.
Speaker 2: She keeps telling me she has both of those autographs somewhere,
Speaker 2: but I'm positive those are long gone. I only saw
Speaker 2: Sid once and it was for about five minutes, and
Speaker 2: he was but he was a very polite man. He
Speaker 2: left the good impression on me, and even more importantly,
Speaker 2: he left a really good impression on the woman who
Speaker 2: became my wife. Thank you, Jack and JP for everything
Speaker 2: you guys do for the solar system. You mean a
Speaker 2: lot to us. All very very good.
Speaker 4: It's great, and we also want to thank a host
Speaker 4: of other folks. Let's let's let's really uh, let's really
Speaker 4: address this situation here because we have.
Speaker 2: A lot of pledges.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 4: We want to thank uh Davis, Drip and Daniel Maler
Speaker 4: and well dead inside failure Davis d Yeah, that was
Speaker 4: the name we got with a hyphen. Thank Matt for
Speaker 4: bumping that pledge way way up, Matt Linde, I think
Speaker 4: it is. Thank you so much, Knowe. Thanks very much
Speaker 4: for that ep level tier pledge. Todd Harding and David Googly, Emmy,
Speaker 4: I mean to thank Chris Cummins, who's coming all over
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Speaker 2: I believe it is okay, Anthony.
Speaker 4: Rossi and Jay Hamilton and Jason Woodrum Ray as a party,
Speaker 4: Jason Hervey, it's a party. Ray, It's a party. Brother Peter,
Speaker 4: thank you very much. Welcome to the v VI P
Speaker 4: tr uh Ilia Gardanis. Thank you very much for your
Speaker 4: support and for in fact upping that pledge substantially in
Speaker 4: our I guess you could say our time of need.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: It's a good one from William Boss. I don't know
Speaker 4: if anyone has presented this idea before, but what about
Speaker 4: a t L F kfabe cookbook? Recipes from that cast
Speaker 4: sends recipes for venus, this is recipes for ribs, Bulldog's,
Speaker 4: recipes for crack. If Bob's Bob's Burgers can put one out?
Speaker 2: Did they? Yeah? They didn't. They did, know that? Do
Speaker 2: you like they?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: I mean it was you know, it's it's yeah, they did.
Speaker 2: They put out a recipe book for me. You know,
Speaker 2: you don't actually know what he puts in the burgers
Speaker 2: because they don't actually, you know, they just named them.
Speaker 2: And then but what they did put out a cookbook delicious.
Speaker 2: I actually they're good. I made some, Oh did you actually?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I had a friend who had the cookbook,
Speaker 2: and I just took a bunch of photos of ones
Speaker 2: that that sounded good, and I made them. They're good, tasty.
Speaker 4: Hilliam salivating thinking about Vader's recipe for ripping the door
Speaker 4: off of Wendy's and splashing into the fry station. Sounds delicious. Okay, Now,
Speaker 4: so I'm just you know, to call that a recipe
Speaker 4: is pretty funny.
Speaker 2: Actually, see right, He's even freaking barged through the door,
Speaker 2: and people scatter. The first thing you want to do scattered,
Speaker 2: all right, first thing you gotta do is you get
Speaker 2: a hope. First. The first thing you gotta do is
Speaker 2: you get to find a double door. Wendy's that's the priority,
Speaker 2: all right. And then you push the doors through, and
Speaker 2: you he has he has techniques in the cookbook on
Speaker 2: how to push the doors exactly. And then everyone starts
Speaker 2: screaming and you and you have to come in saying,
Speaker 2: what are the food that makes that a recipe?
Speaker 3: What the food?
Speaker 2: Screaming? Everyone's you know, women are screaming, men are screaming,
Speaker 2: trying to get out of his way, and you just
Speaker 2: then you just you just thunder over to the fucking
Speaker 2: to the fucking register. You push the employee out of
Speaker 2: the way, and you go to the French fries and
Speaker 2: just you do you know, you do one of those
Speaker 2: like like you're sweeping your arms out. Okay, well, so yes,
Speaker 2: we should make one. Yeah, I guess. So that's the
Speaker 2: only thing I can think of as a proper response
Speaker 2: to that. Mmmm, that's the recipe of that.
Speaker 4: There's anybody out there who can help us put a
Speaker 4: book out I think we can talk.
Speaker 2: That'd be funny.