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Speaker 1: It's the lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and carn

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s e O and JP Sorrow. He's a lapsed fan

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Speaker 2: I never seen anything and it's the laps fan man

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like the one in the ring. Forget about Sado.

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Speaker 3: He the real king of swing.

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Speaker 2: When the bell goes in the kick like me throwing

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in the corner, but gets rash like stick even Jerry

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like its Steve low Brown. Would you get low down?

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Speaker 3: We go even high up?

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Speaker 2: Flipp you on your head, but you know cool driver,

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you speak more and Dragon spits fire, give you more

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shock than when he treats higher drop a more truth

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than the con of sniper unless you with a coconut.

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Speaker 3: Roddy Pipper Jack a JP.

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Speaker 2: He like j h D drop the cupcakes and gold

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the brain Bob means the best podcast. Frost start the

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close cloud if you are it is a flass sicond pose.

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Speaker 4: It is a new year, it is a new decade.

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It is a new x here at TLM dolls. Yes,

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it is welcome to twenty twenty five scause it's kind

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of wild.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking Actually, you know, TLFX actually

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isn't done yet. It's not over yet. Do you know

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why why? Because the anniversary is May twenty eighth. Well,

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that's true. That's that's it. So it's TALFX until May

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twenty eighth.

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Speaker 4: It's TLFX until we get crowned Best Wrestling Podcast by

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the Sports.

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Speaker 2: Podcast A wells damn straight?

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Speaker 4: I mean, is this not the most like perfect thing

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to fall out of the sky and into our lapse

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on a yeel where in so many ways we're reflecting

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on what it's all meant and we're embarking upon a

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new year here, and we do want to, right off

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the top, send a wholehearted thanks to everybody on social

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media who's indicated to us that they have voted for us.

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We want to kick off this mailbag show. And believe me,

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santas Sac has been bursting over the holidays. It has

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been months since we've gone through the best missives from

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any fan base on any podcast that has ever existed

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on the face of God's green Earth. Indeed, I'm going

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to get to business here because that's the way to

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start the year, right. You start the year by tidying up,

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don't you?

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Speaker 2: Boss.

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Speaker 4: You start the years making sure everything has its place,

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and then as you head out into a new year,

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you don't feel like vestiges of the year prior are

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laying about everyone, keeping you stuck in a prior mode.

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That's not what we do here, not at all. But

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this is urgent because the time to vote is rapidly closing.

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We got word that we were nominated as finalists in

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this series of awards, which is run by a sports

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podcast group. They do like an annual award thing called,

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you know, the Sports podcast Towards. It's pretty self explanatory. Yes,

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And the voting will close January thirteenth.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow. And if you're out there within.

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Speaker 4: The sound of our voice and have seen our tweets

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and our entreaties that we tried to plaster all over

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not only our socials but the podcast feed as well

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as the unwrapping played out to record success this this

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Christmas season, yep, you do need to act, and you know,

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because it's a popularity contest, you do need to tell

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everybody you know to act as well, even if they've

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never heard the show, but if they care about you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's not one of those types too, where

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you can vote and vote and vote, right, it's only

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one vote per person. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. I mean

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I'm not sing like per email, I should say.

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Speaker 4: I think that's how it works. I've hesitated to vote

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myself because that's a little weird, but yes, you do have.

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Speaker 2: I voted for us, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: It's all my emails, so you know then, so yeah,

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you know the answer to the question, did you try

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to vote with the same email twice?

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it wasn't even clear to us that this is something

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that the broad populist decides that this was a popularity

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contest because you had to submit, you know, like an

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application and sort of give them samples of what you

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you know, yeah, right, But if it's a if it's

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a numbers game. Then unfortunately, we've got to marshal the resources,

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just like we do every time around this year. When

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live show, which there won't be this year coming up

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in association with WrestleMania, we go a whole hog.

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Speaker 2: We don't leave any.

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Speaker 4: Stone unturned, right pounded the pavement and getting the word out.

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need everything you can muster here in the new year.

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Make it your resolution to get the coach here much

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needed recognition on the year of TLFX for Best Wrestling

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Podcast in the Sports Podcast Awards twenty twenty five. It's

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Sports Podcastgroup dot com is the url for the organization

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that puts the awards on and then it's pretty easy

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from there to find the twenty twenty five Sports Podcast

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Awards and then the best Wrestling category. We've also put

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the link up several times in our social media channels

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X in particular, and so we thank everybody and have

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been sure to shout out everybody, whether retweet or a

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like or a fist pump on social for doing what

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it takes, because it's the Boss Man just illustrated. It

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isn't just a one click thing. It does take a

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little bit of inputting of information and such to get

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your vote across the transom. But look, we've got the

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fans that are willing to go that extra mile to

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deal with that inconvenience. Yes, and I think it's I

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don't know, it feels right, boss, It feels like it's

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time to proved to motherfuckers that like, the only reason

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we don't have all the awards is because we don't

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bother most of the time.

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Speaker 2: It's not even trying to nothing to prove. It's more like,

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now's the time to show the world, and show the

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Speaker 4: I think on the New Year, it's always healthy for us,

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let alone for the solar system at large, to be

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reminded what it is we're trying to establish here.

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Speaker 2: To show the world that there is only one all right,

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that there is only one that when it comes down

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to it, right, when it comes down to putting together

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the history, putting together the story, and most importantly, being

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able to more accurately than not not by any sort

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of pretense on our part, but to accurately get in

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the minds of these fuckers. There's none out there. It's

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not possible. It's method acting, yes, And you know, and

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if you're not listen, if you're not if you're missing

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out on this again, We've said it a million times.

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We're here. We're always here, right, we are. We are

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mother and father, and we are always our arms and

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our doors are always open to embrace you when your

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time has come. That's right. I mean in a weird

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way too, It's like, you know, we're we're also Saint

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to u a higher a higher level of living and

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some of these emails Tiven for non wrestling fans, they're

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out there and bless their hearts, you know, there's a

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lot of them. Categories in the Sports Podcast Awards Best

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Comedy Podcast, Hello, Best overall podcast. Hello. But it's wrestling,

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so no one's going to give you. Yeah, you don't

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you know, we're in the we're in the bastard step

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child category. Exactly.

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Speaker 4: Let's practice what we preach. If we're gonna mock a

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wrestler for trying to write a memoir, for example, that

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they trick themselves into thinking anybody but a wrestling fan

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is going to buy and enjoy. We can't just as

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well turned around and pretend that we can step outside

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our bounds for recognitions. It's there, of course, and we're

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blessed to have it, but we also make no allusions

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as to what base it is that we're seeking to

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firm up and give sort of an outlook that allows

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them to live with some self respect. Yeah, after having

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been bitten by the bug of one of the most

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ludicrous industries to ever exist, and it just gets more

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and more ridiculous all the time, and we just get

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more and more ramped up to do what we can

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of course, that the live calls are going to be

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rocking this year on Patreon, because we've got the Netflix

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raw that we're going to cover. We've got Saturday Night's

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main event, which apparently is going to be quarterly, including

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one coming up the end of January. Yes, Jesus fucking Christ,

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get some letters. Hearing the feedback show about that. How

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feel good. I mean I don't have any lingering negativity

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tell you what. The highlight of it Jesse Ventura. So

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apparently we'll be back. And what do you know? It did?

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twenty years, and he can say things on commentary that

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you haven't in twenty years. That's what we've been saying

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since twenty fourteen. Exactly the instincts that were drilled into

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do to thrive in the business conditions that they're handed. However,

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that does not mean that the way of institutionalizing, I

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guess is one way to put it. These guys in

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the past wasn't better, wasn't superior, and didn't produce an

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instinct in the performer, the wrestler, the commentator or whatever

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that just makes it more satisfying to watch. That just

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makes it easier to watch you in it instead of

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takes you out of it every ten minutes. So big

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of the lapsed fan. As Saturday Night's main event returns,

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WrestleMania because we're not going to Vegas. So of course

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we're going to service the patree, the patreon we haven't

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in years for Mania, and as far as live shows,

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it doesn't mean we're taking twenty twenty five off. We've

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got our eye very strongly on doing maybe a summer

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thing around Summer Slam in the New York City area.

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demonstrated that to ourselves and everybody else, and so maybe

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that's maybe that's the play we'll see. I want to

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stay tuned for information in that as we go. And

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we're really excited here in the first episode of twenty

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twenty five as we turn the page in so many

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ways to bring it the conclusion of this episode, an

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update on a near and dear Solar System member. These

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mail bag shows, Boss, of course, they're about in the

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Solar System and how valuable a part of the ecosystem

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they are, how they are into the gasoline to the

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whole upper. You've heard us talk about our good friend Gabe,

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who's been in the show a bunch of times. Yeah,

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we've told you before about the podcast the Whole Ballgame

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that he started with fellas fellow Solar System member Blake,

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about baseball, kind of taking a lapsed lens to baseball.

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health challenges. We shared a lot of info over the

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weeks on the show about his gofund me as he

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wanted to wunn open heart surgery. And we're proud to

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say thrilled to say that Gabe is not only back

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on his feet, but sounds amazing, sounds just as he

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did before the procedure. And we saw it to it

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over the holiday season to reconnect with Gabe now that

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he's feeling up to it, and just to kind of

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get get a report back on what it was he

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went through and what it is boss his experience can

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tell us about how we should proceed in the new year.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry say that again, you went out there for

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Speaker 4: Sure, just his experience and what it tells us about

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how we should proceed in the new year.

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Speaker 2: Oh, indeed, absolutely, I think that's I think that's important.

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in that regard, and he will and do what he

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Speaker 4: And that'll be coming your way here at the end

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of the episode. So we do want to let you

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know that if part of your new year's resolution includes

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not only getting right with living a moral life, which

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maybe to the fallen angel that is the wrestling fan,

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we can offer some support if it's not already too late.

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If you're going to hit the gym, everyone does this

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right New Year. You've probably had some runs with this

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right January first, baby, hit the gym?

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Speaker 2: Oh exactly. I mean, listen, you're all going to try. Yes,

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Speaker 4: And there's virtue in that. There's virtue. Indeed, thankfully it's

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not New Year's Revolution season.

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Speaker 2: Well that would suck. I mean they didn't bring that

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one back yet, so we can count our blessings, don't.

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They do it with something? Though fairly recently, like in

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the last couple of years, they did something New Year's Resolution.

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Is it Day one you're thinking of? No, they actually

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called something New Year's Resolution, but I don't remember what

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Speaker 4: They do, I believe use that for NXTX supercards. Yeah,

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and they have New Year's Evil. Maybe they call it

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something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Can I can I just stop for god's sake,

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it's gonna be evil. It's gotta be you know, medieval

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like knock it off. So we were counting our webs

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what it is. Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Well, they're

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not gonna level up. They canceled that show, which is

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like an NXTB brand if you can believe it. And

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we're entering the era of Netflix. Man, this is gonna

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get really gross. I'm sorry to tell you, but it

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does not look like they are even thinking for a

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second about how to allay the fears of those who

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know that while in any given week or any given month,

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the archives aren't the most watched things on Peacock or

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the former WW network, the erswild WW network, why would

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they That wouldn't make any sense. Why would Why would

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anybody watch a show from ninet eighty five and great

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enough volume to register? But over time, as we demonstrate

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the existence of our podcast demonstrates, over time, what matters

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to the is the archive. Over time, what the archive

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is all that matters because that's that's your legacy, right

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is it that hard to understand? Over time?

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Speaker 4: Is knowing what matters is knowing that everything is there

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to rewatch or that if you lapse in your watching.

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Speaker 2: This is so big.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they ever think about this. If somebody

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is following WWE and for whatever reason doesn't for six months,

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five months, four months, it happens to all of us. Well,

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it doesn't happen to Toss, but you get my point.

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It happens still a lot of people. Well, yeah, yeah,

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that's true. We sort of force you to not fall

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into that pattern, but you would. Yeah, those people are

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still gonna subscribe if they know they have access to

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something that can catch them up when they feel like

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they have the time or when they feel like, you know,

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poking through. And they may never do it, but they'll

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still pay for it. And that instinct is going to

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be extinguished if the archive isn't full and robust. So

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the people that you lose, you're gonna lose like typical

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Netflix style churn, Like I don't care this month. I'm

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not subscribing, literally not. I don't understand. I really don't,

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because it's there, it's done. We're not asking We're not

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asking them to digitize a vault and put a lot

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of legwork in. We're asking them to not be a

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bunch of bitches is what we're basically not to be

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fucking idiots, fucking morons exactly. I mean, but again, you

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know what, if they want to do it, fine, I've

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got an archie right and by now they've forced us

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to game plan, and we've amassed such a mighty system,

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in such a mighty interconnected network, you're not gonna fucking

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put us on our back foot.

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Speaker 2: We went through all this with Peacock.

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Speaker 4: Remember we did the whole head fake, like, well, we

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almost mocked the idea that we have to go out

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of business because the network isn't there anymore, give me.

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Speaker 2: Or because Peacock's gonna be a shit show, which it

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kind of is.

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Speaker 4: We need the archive, we need the archive, but our

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fans need us to have the archive more than we

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need the archive.

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Speaker 2: Do you see that?

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Speaker 4: Do you see how that works? And so if you're

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gonna if you're gonna push us, if you're gonna fuck around,

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you're gonna find out and it's gonna be great for

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us because not only will there be the pull of

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hearing us review the show, it'll always also be like, oh,

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I can't even watch this motherfucker anymore. So now I'm

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doubly interested in revisiting it because.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I can't. We have no way to watch it

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unless you have your own copy of it.

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Speaker 4: So I guess game over. Thank you, is what I'm

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trying to say in this new normal where smackdowns going

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to three hours.

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Speaker 2: As well Netflix. So it's a shit show.

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Speaker 4: So we're excited and we're bullish going into this huge

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deal for WWA and the upcoming live call can be

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yours for your Patreon dollar. You know this, you know

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the story, you know the score under the cinemat. We

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dropped one of the most epic episodes we'll ever do

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on one of the most epic movies ever made for

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Christmas Day. Yeah, and boss, I'm sure the Solar systems

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wondering what's in your head for twenty twenty five regarding

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UTC for your ep and above tier dollar.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of good stuff, you know. I've

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got a whole slate of possibilities and I'm not going

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to give any away just yet. We've got classics. We've

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got one, honest to god, We've got one that I

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I just found out about, just found out about. Wow.

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You found out that it qualifies. I found out that

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it's a movie like that. Yeah, that qualifies, not even

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that it qualifies. But I never heard of this movie

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and it stars Humphrey Bogart. All Right, that's all I'm

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gonna say. And I was like, holy shit, and it's

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gonna happen. It's gonna happen this year. I know, I

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do want to say, I do want to apologize. You know,

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I know I did promise a complete Christmas movie season

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this year. It just, you know, when when I started

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digging into the Wizard of Oz, it just was taking

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up too much time and it was too important for

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me to do that one. And I also needed a

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couple of weeks just off of the James Bond you know,

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the James Bond journey, and then scheduling it just was

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it was weird how it just was not meant to be. Well,

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it's such a short season too, and it was very short,

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three and a half weeks of Christmas. Fuck that you

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had basically like a week, you know, right, I mean

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that was like I was kind of you know, I was,

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I wanted to start, you know, slowly the week after

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Thanksgiving and then kind of dig into stuff. And then

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I was like, wait a minute's Christmas. It's like it's

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already Christmas, Like there's no time to do anything else.

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Speaker 4: And let me cut into that, because I can attest

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to having done the sid tribute for instance, like what's

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great about it? What keeps it going? Like if this

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wasn't true, it would be it wouldn't be long before

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it isn't worth doing the show anymore, honestly right its

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What has to be true for TLF to be TLF

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is that when we find ourselves going down a rabbit

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hole and things start taking on a life of their own,

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and the tail end of the process just keeps getting

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elongated and elongated til we can barely see it on

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the horizon, we have to know that you are going

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to keep handing us the ball to run to the

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finish line, no matter how far away it may be.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: We have to know that we've got the only audience

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on any podcast that we could ever hope for that says,

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do it, go for it, don't stop until the corpse

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is exhausted, don't stop until the account is serviced. This

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customer needs service, and this customer is a movie that

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the boss Man's dive for under the cinemat this customer

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is a tribute subject like sid for the main feed

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or some kind of long form journey on all of

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the different things we've covered over the years, and it's

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always the thing you go back to. It's always the

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thing you're glad we overdid. And by god, a couple

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of years pass and it seems like we underdid it

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every single time, right, be exactly things keep getting pointed out, tentacles,

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new branches on the tree that we didn't consider it

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first blush, even though we felt we were exhaustive and

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exhausted going through the process.

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Speaker 2: Exactly it.

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Speaker 4: But that's the virtuous cycle that makes all this worth it,

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and the mail bag is going to be further proof

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of that here as we crack it open for the

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first time in several months on the show. Now, we're

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gonna go in kind of verse chronological order. No, yes,

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we're going to go from most current two oldest letters

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this time because we're coming off the unwrappening and it

475
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,480
was epic, and it was even more epic not only

476
00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:54,279
to record it, but even more epic to roll it

477
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,519
out like we did twenty five Days of Christmas style

478
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,960
and have Mama Sorrow in the room for the first time,

479
00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:02,440
and so many members of the Solar System appreciated that

480
00:24:02,519 --> 00:24:04,720
we're picking up on all these great nuances along the way.

481
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,240
The silver Tuna, in a lot of ways was the

482
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,920
care package from Saint Mary's Cathedral. Oh yes, this was

483
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,079
something that we had a decent degree of information on

484
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,799
while we were opening the gift on the unwrappening in

485
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,960
terms of how it came together, But we just felt

486
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,599
like it begged more clarification, because how do your CoA

487
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,200
chairs end up being in position possession? I should say

488
00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:34,400
of an autograph picture of sid Udy signed from the

489
00:24:34,519 --> 00:24:36,640
church that he was trying to get people to send

490
00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:39,920
cases and cases and cases of Vienna sausages to in

491
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,319
his last years on Earth. And Brandon, who is responsible

492
00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:47,279
I put his head together with some of the other

493
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:49,839
homies out there in the Solar System. Didn't he see

494
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,039
what make this thing happen? Was kind enough to lay

495
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,440
out for us. Now that the gift is in receipt

496
00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:58,640
and it's been opened and reacted to, for all the

497
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,200
Solar System to hear and re joice in. We shared

498
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,440
an image of the materials on our social media accounts.

499
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,119
I turned out to you, Boss, please convey Brandon's blow

500
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,480
by blow for a process that only the lapsed Fan

501
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,640
could engender someone to retake.

502
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: That's that is exactly it. I mean, you think about,

503
00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:20,599
you think about I mean, I want to, I really

504
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:23,640
am here. I would be curious, are there any other

505
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:28,319
podcasts now who could elicit this kind of a response.

506
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,440
I'm waiting and I'm not trying to. I'm not trying

507
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,000
to toot our own horn, and I am, but I'm

508
00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:38,000
also genuinely curious because this is one of the most

509
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:44,640
wackiest yes, and most incredibly thought out resources and dedicated

510
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:50,559
right gift that I mean, the whole, the whole presentation

511
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,160
of it was just completely just out of this world.

512
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,599
Speaker 4: And didn't it feel like there was some divine intervention

513
00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:00,359
having your mom there to explain the same way, Oh god,

514
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,839
the significance of the shawl. If she wasn't sitting with us,

515
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,519
we would have just put that to the side, like, Okay,

516
00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:06,880
I guess this is just a rapping like and she.

517
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: Was excited about it, excited about it. I mean, just wild,

518
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,359
just absolutely wild.

519
00:26:16,839 --> 00:26:32,759
Speaker 1: Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys

520
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:33,680
need their candy.

521
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,759
Speaker 6: It's the lapsed fan just because we posted a new

522
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:38,960
episode of The Lapsed Fan doesn't mean we are done

523
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,400
with the campaign to take what is rightfully ours. If

524
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,880
you haven't yet vote for The Lapsed Fan to win

525
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,440
the award for Wrestling Podcast of the Year, click on

526
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,200
the show's notes, follow the link and do the right thing.

527
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,599
Speaker 1: He's an Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno

528
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000
and JP Soro.

529
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:16,519
Speaker 2: So here we go. I knew this year I wanted

530
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:19,599
to finally send a gift for the Christmas show. I

531
00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:22,640
was originally thinking about some w CW stickers or maybe

532
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,160
every Raven Trading card that's been made. But after hearing

533
00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:29,079
part one, I love that. That's part one, by the way,

534
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:34,799
it was part one where the fucking Vienna's come into play. Yeah.

535
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,079
Speaker 4: In fact, I just you know, I was like, oh,

536
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,880
it's funny he keeps. As I was researching the interviews

537
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,920
he did in his later years after his wrestling career,

538
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,799
he would bring it up a lot, and I'm like, oh,

539
00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:44,640
that's kind of a funny thing.

540
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: I'll mention that.

541
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 4: But I did not think it was going to be

542
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:51,279
every single episode and it would come to characterize I mean,

543
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Vienna sausage is sid that's why you need to trust

544
00:27:57,039 --> 00:27:58,319
us when we do this stuff, when we do this

545
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,440
kind of digging, because we don't know on the front

546
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:03,440
end what's going to end up being the gems and

547
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,680
the diamonds we have to mine.

548
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: We have to mine. Yeah, And that's exactly exactly that's

549
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,200
why you know. Otherwise, if we don't do that, things

550
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,160
are less than sanguine. Things are less than sanguine and

551
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,240
less than worth it, that's for sure. But after hearing

552
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,440
part one of the Sid Tribute, I knew I wanted

553
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,400
to get you a SID meal pack. Then Part two

554
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,079
of the tribute came out and we could see, we

555
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,119
could all see that viennas were now a full fledged gimmick.

556
00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:37,759
I figured every member of the Solar system would now

557
00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:41,200
be sending in viennas for the Christmas show. My gift

558
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,119
would be worthless. But then I thought, what if I

559
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:51,319
could send them real viennas, Sid's actual viennas from his church.

560
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:55,720
I went back. I wasn't prepped for that. I should

561
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,559
have had that. I went back. There we go and

562
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,799
owned through part one to find the street address a

563
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,599
name of the church Sid gives out in the interview.

564
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,279
I google the chur church's name and the address separately.

565
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:12,640
To double check that this was the right place, I

566
00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:16,240
navigated to the Saint Mary's of Memphis website, found the

567
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:19,839
con found in the contact section, and began crafting an email.

568
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,440
But I can't tell this church that they were indirectly

569
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:27,559
mentioned on a wrestling podcast. Now that's how I hung

570
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,680
up on. Yeah, yeah, that's how. That's how you don't

571
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,680
get a response. I can't ask them to send me

572
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:37,039
food meant for the homeless. I'm going to need to

573
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:40,359
convince them. I'll have to touch their hearts to make

574
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,519
this happen. Now, this is the time I mentioned that

575
00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:46,559
as a teenager, I joined the bullshit carnival. I was

576
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,839
ushered into adulthood and taught life's lessons by such ethical

577
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,960
athletes as Larry's Obisco. To quote Larry before you continue reading,

578
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,039
If you want to enjoy the circus, don't peek behind

579
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:58,720
the curtain.

580
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 4: Why am I not surprised that someone who's actually been

581
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,359
in the business was able to pull this off?

582
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:11,519
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly. That's that's kind of the that that's it,

583
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,599
I mean, that's that's that's who you get to to

584
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,920
pull something, pull a caper like this off. And this

585
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:25,519
is definitely a caper, hands down. I lied to the church. Wow.

586
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 4: Wow, I wouldn't recommend that, But my God, are we

587
00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:30,519
the beneficiaries of it?

588
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: I mean, depends on depends on how you feel about

589
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,920
the church, you know. I guess it was in the church.

590
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,079
It was just yeah, in general, you know. I told

591
00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:44,119
them about my grandfather Jack, whose parents were Italian immigrants

592
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:49,079
that emigrated from Italy to West Memphis. God, this was

593
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,799
to explain his last name in Carnassio, an Italian name.

594
00:30:53,039 --> 00:31:03,599
Come on, Oh, that's fucking great in case it came up.

595
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,839
Grandpa Jack was born in Memphis and spent his entire

596
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,000
life living by the Word of God and attending Saint

597
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:17,839
Mary's Cathedral, but apparently not a registered member of the congregation.

598
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 4: It's amazing that he told these people that this guy

599
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:21,519
went to the church for years and they don't know

600
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,000
you that you went to the church. But yeah, well,

601
00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:25,720
as far as they're concerned to the sky, you know.

602
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. When his health started to decline fifteen years ago,

603
00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:32,359
he moved to Florida to be closer to family. This

604
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,960
set up distance and explained why the package would be

605
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,920
delivered to me in Florida. Grandpa Jack is dying. Oh

606
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:48,000
my god, Grandpa Jack is dying. That's going to be

607
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:51,359
shorthand as the years ago. Yep, and won't make it

608
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:55,079
past Christmas. As a family, we decided to have his

609
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,240
birthday three months early, on November first, as a way

610
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:03,480
to say goodbye. He loves his church so much. The

611
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:07,319
beautiful columns and this is I mean, if this is

612
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,119
the kind of email you know you send to a

613
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,599
church if you're if you have accepted your seat in hell. Yeah,

614
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:19,920
I don't know.

615
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,559
Speaker 4: I think I think the Good Lord might have a

616
00:32:21,599 --> 00:32:24,559
little more appreciation before the the trick starter.

617
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: Than we give. I would imagine. I would imagine God

618
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,960
has a sense of humor always. Nobody else would have

619
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,319
a sense of humor better. Yeah, yeah, right. He loved

620
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:36,200
his church so much. The beautiful columns and highclating are

621
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:47,640
what inspired him to be The beautiful columns and high

622
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,000
ceiling are what inspired him to become an architect. Oh

623
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:58,920
my god, this is quote he quotes, He quotes you.

624
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,240
He's never been shy to let anyone and everyone know

625
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,000
that that building is the most beautiful structure on God's Earth.

626
00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 4: Why do I feel like after this call was over.

627
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:14,319
The lady hung up at the church and said, something's

628
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:18,720
wrong with that boy? He like, he didn't pull wool

629
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,480
over her eyes at all. She was just like, Okay,

630
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:24,759
what's wrong with that boy? Know that Carnasio is a

631
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:25,440
Portuguese name.

632
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,279
Speaker 2: Better to just give him what he wants, you know,

633
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,200
instead of seeing what happens if we ignore him. I

634
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:39,400
asked him if they could help me with a birthday

635
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:46,720
gift from my dying grandfather and hit send. Twenty six

636
00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:49,599
hours later, I got a reply from a woman using

637
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,799
a private Saint Mary's email address. We'll call her Nancy.

638
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:58,559
Nancy said that she would be glad to help and

639
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,480
asked what I had in mind. God. I told her

640
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:06,200
how Grandpa Jack loved helping out with feeding the needy,

641
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:09,280
and how how every so often he would sneak a

642
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,840
meal box for himself.

643
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: I don't appreciate that this is somehow me okay, a

644
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:22,559
fictitious person.

645
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: Yet no Jew Jew this amazing. Oh my God.

646
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 4: I invite you out there and listener to land to

647
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,880
consider what would be like to know that possibly someone

648
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,360
is doing this in your name without you having any knowledge.

649
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,960
Throughout the month of November, tremendous, just tremendous. I was

650
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:48,239
wondering if the church could send a special meal package

651
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,280
and some kind of printed materials that showcase the building

652
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:51,960
to comfort him.

653
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: I added the print so she wouldn't just tell me

654
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,800
to go to the grocery store. Nancy replied suggesting a

655
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,679
prayer shawl with a card showing the church, but didn't

656
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,159
like the idea of sending food in the mail. Well,

657
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,039
that is just.

658
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 4: That is not in keeping with the spirit of the

659
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,159
pop top, not at all. Sid would not agree at

660
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:19,039
all with that stance. In fact, he wants you to

661
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:21,840
send food in the mail. Yeah, so we can send

662
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,119
you an autograph picture. I brought up a donation and

663
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,440
her opinion changed.

664
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: So who's the carny really here?

665
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: Yeah?

666
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 5: Right.

667
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: I gave her the list of items I needed, and

668
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:38,719
she came up with a fifty dollars donation. I wasn't

669
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,079
sure if all this would be worth the fifty dollars,

670
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:43,559
so I took the night to think about it. Little

671
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:49,519
did I know, Little did I know, it would cost

672
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:51,599
me a lot more. That was just the opening bid.

673
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,519
My friend, Hm, you're dealing with a five oh one

674
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,400
C three. Listening to the show. That night, I was

675
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:06,400
getting more ideas. What about an autograph picture? Great call

676
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:10,239
I would have loved, actually an auto picture of water

677
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:14,079
that would have been great too. Sure should I buy

678
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:15,880
one on eBay and send him with the food like

679
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,840
a happy meal prize? I purchased one. I purchased one

680
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,599
on eBay, but didn't feel like he was special enough.

681
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 4: Well, he made the right decision because he was gonna

682
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,320
that this is the only way you could top the

683
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,440
guy who sent us the Sid picture with peanut butter

684
00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:33,599
and jelly so much.

685
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 2: Over seriously, Oh my god, you know I had forgotten

686
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,280
about that, and I was happy about forgetting about that,

687
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,559
and now you've reminded me that that happened. I then

688
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:48,920
came up with the idea of the church signing an

689
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:55,039
eight by ten of Sid. I emailed Nancy the next

690
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:58,599
day and accepted the donation price. I mentioned personally being

691
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:00,760
a fan of Sid beauty, and how I would be

692
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:09,440
happy to make the donation in his name. See how

693
00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:12,599
long you waited before you mentioned Sid? Mm hmmm mm hmm.

694
00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:16,199
She of course knew of his passing, but she wasn't

695
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,159
too familiar with him personally. I asked if she could

696
00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:23,599
write a note thanking me for the donation, thanking me

697
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:26,719
for the donation, on a picture of Sid so I

698
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:36,239
could hang it in my home. She politely declined, like,

699
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:40,000
I'm wondering here does this? I mean, what does this

700
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:40,840
woman believe?

701
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:44,119
Speaker 4: I'm telling you she's just she's doing it for karma

702
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:45,719
so that it doesn't come back to bite her that

703
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,559
she didn't help this poor child who.

704
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: Clearly write his issues. Yeah. I wanted this to happen

705
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,119
really bad. I didn't care about the food anymore. Really,

706
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:02,559
I wanted an autograph picture. I not even to picture

707
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:08,320
of Sid, but an aggraph picture of Sid signed by

708
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,480
somebody else who's got nothing to do with the wrestling

709
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:13,480
business whatsoever.

710
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:19,159
Speaker 4: This guy, the homie Brandon, Okay, he he started from

711
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,559
a place of I don't want to just buy viennas

712
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:24,559
at the supermarket. That's not epic enough. I want the

713
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:30,119
church to send vienna's. And he got that done, as

714
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:33,039
incredible as that is. And then he's like, yeah, I

715
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:35,639
don't care about that anymore. They're right, I accomplished that.

716
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:37,440
I don't care about that now. I want them to

717
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,920
sign the picture, yeah, And I want them to sign

718
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,360
the picture.

719
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:48,199
Speaker 2: Yes. Oh God, it's fucking money, money, money, money, money, money.

720
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:52,280
I wanted this to happen really bad. I didn't care

721
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,920
about the food anymore, really I wanted to I figured

722
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,159
I had one last shot, and asking before Nancy would

723
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:03,920
probably would maybe bail on the whole thing. I quadrupled

724
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,639
down and offered two hundred dollars for her to sign

725
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:13,159
a photo for me. I explained how I wanted to

726
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:17,320
be able to remember doing all this for Grandpa Jack,

727
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:21,000
how it would be an honor to give it, to

728
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:26,360
give to the church and have this memento. Nancy accepted,

729
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,719
and I donated. I knew my best friend Andrew would

730
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,840
have some kind of photo of Sid for me to send.

731
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,599
We dug through a box of magazines and found that

732
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,159
awesome poster of Sid in a suit. I mailed it

733
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:47,119
out and asked if she could, and asked if she

734
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,960
could make it out to Jack and his brother JP

735
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:56,119
and signed it from Saint Mary's. She didn't ask any

736
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,480
questions and said she would. I finally received the package

737
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:04,679
and it was perfect. I bought a gift box from

738
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,199
Hobby Lobby for the food and repacked everything. I don't

739
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,280
know if they had all the food and stock or

740
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,880
if they just bought what they didn't have. I don't

741
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,519
know if Nancy signed the poster herself or if some

742
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,960
underling did. I don't know if Mama Sorrow's new shawl

743
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,079
has bad juju on it. All I know is that

744
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:28,039
this was a Christmas miracle. That's right. That's right, And

745
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:34,000
I'm glad you found it entertaining. Ah, I mean entertaining.

746
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:37,000
That's not even the word, not even the word for it.

747
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:45,400
It was. It was insane and absurd and just postmodern

748
00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:51,320
even it was. It was a postmodern gift. It totally was.

749
00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:56,599
It really was. And you know, we adore everything everyone

750
00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:57,880
sent us. Yep.

751
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 4: It's it's not to say that this is like, you know,

752
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,960
it's just the story. The story speaks to why anyone

753
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,920
would send us anything in the first place. Right, Yeah,

754
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:13,440
It's like, no, it's not just that people like, you know, oh,

755
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:15,639
they love the podcast and they want to give you gifts.

756
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:17,599
It's like, yeah, but no, you don't understand. It's it's

757
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:22,360
about it's about using that as a as a as

758
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,519
a springboard to create more lapsed moments. It's it's about

759
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:28,199
moments we all get to enjoy. It's not just about

760
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:34,079
like regaling us. Oh, man, I've looked at that picture

761
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:38,199
of the Vanna's in there and the moon po ball

762
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,800
water pash of crackers. So maybe some some raisins, as

763
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,159
he said in one of them, which blew my mind. Raisins,

764
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:50,039
what the raisins? And I just I just can't believe

765
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:52,920
that it went from him saying that in that Sean

766
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,679
Mooney interview. When I was researching, I was like, Oh,

767
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,719
that's yep, writ not down that one's getting involved somehow, yep,

768
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,320
to the church at self within a matter of months

769
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000
sending us cans of Viennas.

770
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: Just unbelievable, unfucking believable.

771
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 4: And if you did a reason to hang around for

772
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,480
our interview later with Gabe, know that unlike us, he

773
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:18,159
has eaten viennas. You damn right grew up on that

774
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,000
kind of stuff, and he's gonna we got we got

775
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:22,159
a whole, we got a whole fucking we got a

776
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,079
thing of Viennas. I didn't even touch it. I was horrified,

777
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:30,000
horrified to put those things in my mouth. Maybe we'll

778
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,440
do it for a live show. Yeah, maybe maybe that'll

779
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,320
be the thing. We'll eat a can of Vienna's life.

780
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:37,159
Speaker 2: And I guess they it spreads like I just don't

781
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:39,119
give it away or don't give it away, No, don't

782
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:40,559
give it away. Oh sorry.

783
00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:42,639
Speaker 4: Of course ninety percent of the people probably know exactly

784
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:44,039
what the HEAs like and have had it and don't

785
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:46,719
think it's a big deal because it isn't. SID makes

786
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,440
it a big deal, of course, right, But yeah, that

787
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:50,400
that that to come.

788
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: So we're here. Wow. I don't know what more can

789
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,400
be said besides my god, what have we done? Yep?

790
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:04,679
Speaker 4: And what if you've done out there? We started doing

791
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,760
these because all those years ago TLFX style, we started

792
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,559
getting these unbelievable letters when we do shows unsolicited. Really yeah,

793
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,719
and people were just blowing our minds by how fascinating

794
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,199
the insights were that they could bring to the table.

795
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,559
You've seen it on cinemat I mean, it's unbelievable how

796
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:24,599
many cinophiles are on Patreon, and like, you must be

797
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,679
so happy to know that, like when you go deep

798
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,639
on a movie, like if there's a blind spot or

799
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:30,360
if there's something, people are going to find.

800
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: It for you, yep, yep, absolutely absolutely, And and I

801
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:40,079
enjoy engaging I enjoy engaging with them on Patreon whenever

802
00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:43,840
I can, but yeah, it's great, it's great. I love

803
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,960
there is a it's a wonderful forum. For sure. I

804
00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:49,639
break this rule all the time, but I do.

805
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 4: I basically have like this soft policy of I can't

806
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,840
read on these feedback shows all of the does this

807
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,159
qualify for X reason emails? Because we get so many

808
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,000
of them, and you see them all, so it's not like, oh, yeah,

809
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:01,760
you're the person that needs to see him. It's not

810
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,280
like everyone necessarily needs here all of them. Some of

811
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,440
them are just hilarious though, like.

812
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:09,599
Speaker 2: I do love some of the What was one one was, oh,

813
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:15,119
I know, to qualify to qualify from Russia with Love?

814
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,679
The fact that the end of the movie takes place

815
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,960
on the Orient Express and that the Oran Express was

816
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,519
a tag team in the w W A. That's a

817
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:26,239
pretty good one. It's pretty fucking amazing, you know what

818
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:26,599
I mean.

819
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,559
Speaker 4: It's like, why is the term Orient Express a thing

820
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,079
that would cross Vince's mind when naming the tag team?

821
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,679
Speaker 2: But I don't think it was from Russia with Love? Though,

822
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,239
Oh really I think it was. I mean, the Oran

823
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,159
Express is a train and there was also murder on

824
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:43,800
the Oron Express. Yep, you know there's a bunch of movies.

825
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,039
I mean, maybe maybe James Bond, but I don't I

826
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,960
make a good point. I'd have to get some at

827
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,000
that point, you need to find proof that. I had

828
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:51,760
to find proof that that was it, Like, oh, they

829
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,880
know'm a big fan of from Russia with Love and

830
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:55,559
you know they rode the Orn Express.

831
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, tag team. So I thought there was something an

832
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:03,480
Express that's right. Started also doing it because we couldn't

833
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,840
believe how many people, even in the earliest days, deemed

834
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,360
us worthy of financial support via this Patreon platform, and

835
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,119
we put it out there. We thought it would be cool,

836
00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:14,800
but but like people are like no, like, seriously, tell

837
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,960
me where to fucking sign Like, okay, this could actually

838
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,719
be a thing here, Like yeah, you know, the amount

839
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,960
of hours we're putting in isn't just personal pride, it's

840
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,039
also something that people want and want to give us

841
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:28,599
a signal that they wanted to keep doing. And so

842
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,079
we've made it a practice ever since, no matter how

843
00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:34,199
much time passes and how long the list gets, to

844
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,159
thank everybody who logs into patreon dot com and puts

845
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:39,639
a little money in the kitty to help this whole

846
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,800
machine run. And so we'll engage in the exercise one

847
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,519
more time here as we embark on a new year

848
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:47,639
and a new decade of lapsed What do you say, boss.

849
00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm a fan Victor.

850
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,039
Speaker 4: We want to thank you for upping your pledge significantly

851
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,079
and for your support here at TLFHQ. We do also

852
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:00,719
want to thank Graveyard Entertainment, who's a long time serious

853
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,199
ass supporter who recently upped his pledge a bit and

854
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,960
even said, you know another podcast I was pledging to stopped.

855
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:08,559
Guess where that money goes too.

856
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,599
Speaker 2: That is the spirit, yep.

857
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,199
Speaker 4: When you've got something to redeploy because other people just

858
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,719
can't take on the water that we do and stay afloat,

859
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,800
you know where to reprovision resources. Travis Treadwell, Welcome in,

860
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,920
my friend. Welcome to the executive producer tier when Taylor

861
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,079
always great to see you. Pal in the mix, trying

862
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,599
to stay plugged in here. Ali, thank you very much

863
00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:34,559
for your pledge. Matt Skinner, We appreciate the cake, the cheese.

864
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,199
Thank you so very much. Brian, thank you for your pledge. Lumpy.

865
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,280
Big shout out to Lumpy who bit the bullet and

866
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,159
put significant cake on the table. Jeremy up his pledge.

867
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,000
We'd love to see the upping of pledges. That means

868
00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:49,199
people put their toe in the water and said, fuck this. Yep,

869
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,320
I'm not about to look at like posts that I

870
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,119
can unlock because of what tear I'm in. We're going hard.

871
00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:56,239
Austin Turner did it. He came right into that VIP

872
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,159
level and we want to thank him very much for

873
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,000
doing that. Chromas Slam, one of the best Solar System members,

874
00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:05,480
pointed out in our Saturday Nights Made have had live

875
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:08,679
call that of all the throwback figures featured in that

876
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,280
intro that we saw, remember that yeph the one that

877
00:47:11,679 --> 00:47:13,800
basically was all about nineteen ninety one and two, even

878
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,679
though right that was hardly the heyday. The reason it

879
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,119
was like that is because he didn't want to show

880
00:47:18,159 --> 00:47:20,440
Hulk Cogan. Did you realize hul Cogan was nowhere to

881
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,360
be found in that whole thing? No Chromas Slam rights

882
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,920
No Hogan in the intro Dot Dot Dot Brother, which

883
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,840
is a good point. I mean, Hogan was actually in

884
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:33,079
Florida walking a UFC fighter to the cage who got

885
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:38,360
his ass b what exactly someone total health. There's a

886
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,920
shooter that wants to see him and he he showed up.

887
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,599
He showed up ten deep in terms of personal security

888
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:47,920
as well. Who's this guy, dude, who were meeting you?

889
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:48,559
Speaker 5: What do you?

890
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: What's the brother? What's the disio? Right?

891
00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 5: What?

892
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 7: So?

893
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:57,679
Speaker 4: I mean that's another thing, Like you said, they're not

894
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,079
ready to go all the way, you're gonna act like

895
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:03,519
Saturday Night's main event. Nostalgia is about anybody more than

896
00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:06,880
it's about Hulkgan. That's a little ridiculous, but there's a

897
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:08,800
there's a there's a there there. I mean, of course,

898
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,000
there's a million reasons why you wouldn't welcome Hulk back

899
00:48:11,039 --> 00:48:14,119
into the into the fold wholehearted the line. But I

900
00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:17,159
thought that was interesting because we're learning under the Triple

901
00:48:17,199 --> 00:48:19,800
AH regime, or what appears to be the Triple A

902
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,960
T regime, that there still are some third rails, there

903
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:22,519
still are.

904
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,199
Speaker 2: Some no goes.

905
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 4: He's not just gonna, you know, undo every bit of

906
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,239
bad will that Vince had towards former folks. And so

907
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,199
I thought that was really fascinating and well observed there

908
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,280
by Chroma slam a Neil point. Ye fan of that

909
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:40,480
point today. I appreciate that, yeah, for sure, And I

910
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:42,159
didn't realize it. I can't believe it. I'm sitting there

911
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:44,840
watching the intro and marking and every wrestler they're showing

912
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,559
even was like, oh, yeah, of course we got to

913
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:48,800
pretend Sean Michael's winning the intercontinental title on the on

914
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,119
the last Saturday night's main event was an important milestone

915
00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:55,199
on the show as opposed to the death now you know,

916
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,599
a symptom of it at being over. But kind of

917
00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:00,559
in that same vein, Neil pointed out something that I

918
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:03,039
thought was intriguing. Of course, Cody wore the winged Eagle

919
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:05,559
belt to the ring that night. That's because it didn't

920
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:07,159
used to be better. By the way, if you're keeping

921
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:11,039
score at home, and he says, one of the reasons

922
00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:15,079
I'm inherently distrustful of nostalgia is you guys rhapsodize about

923
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:17,440
the wing eagle belt being the symbol of excellence and

924
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:20,000
boom times when it wasn't the belt from the landmark

925
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:22,480
Cogan nineteen eighties run. Yeah, I read this one. This

926
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,480
was actually very fascinating to me. The Austin late nineteen

927
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:27,360
nineties title Rain. Yeah, it was the belt when I

928
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,840
was a kid, and the belt when the company was

929
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,360
in its worst shape. Creatively and financially. He also says,

930
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:36,119
why not keep the big Eagle belt? I get, not

931
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,960
the winged eagle, it's the symbol, despite what Jack asserts

932
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,679
of the company's dramatic decline in the nineteen nineties. But

933
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,719
the big Eagle, the Austin Rock belt, that one symbolizes

934
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,679
the promotion at its peak. Let's say, you to start,

935
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,079
I mean, yeah, I mean I understand where that's coming from.

936
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,320
It makes that makes sense, right, I mean, the fact

937
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:04,159
is that that belt literally was brought in at the

938
00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:09,800
very the very, very very beginnings of what would become

939
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:21,800
the decline. And but at the same time, I, I, well,

940
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:28,000
what what design did the what designs last lasted longer?

941
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:30,599
I guess I guess the scene of design. Huh, yeah,

942
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,639
I guess that one lasted longer. To me, it's not

943
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,079
about last long. I think what it's about is no

944
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:39,880
one has ever suggested bringing back the belt Hogan war

945
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,320
before the winged Eagle belt.

946
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:44,039
Speaker 2: Right, well, he also had like eighteen belts that he were.

947
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,960
He had the green strap like travesty, and then he

948
00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:51,719
had the then he had kind of that that weird

949
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,519
little oval shaped thing, and oh no, then he had

950
00:50:56,559 --> 00:50:58,079
that that I don't know what you call it, but

951
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:00,960
it was looked like the w W the end WATV title,

952
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:07,840
right right. And you know, so the belts that Hogan

953
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,719
wore when they were on fire, no one wants to

954
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,199
bring back. And the belt that Austin wore when he

955
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,719
was on fire. I don't ever hear anyone talk about

956
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,639
bringing those back, which is the point. The point has

957
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,719
never been that the belt signifies the boom period. The

958
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,679
point has been that it's the most beautiful professional wrestling

959
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,840
belt ever created, right because I mean it was also unique.

960
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:33,119
It didn't look like any other wrestling championship belt, you know,

961
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,840
I was very very very unique.

962
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 4: Look no further than the fact that Cody's whole psychology

963
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,719
about winning the world title was to do what his father,

964
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,119
Dusty couldn't when he went against Billy Graham and the

965
00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:45,960
Garden in seventy eight for the belt. That's not the

966
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,320
belt Billy Graham wore, and that's certainly not the belt

967
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,239
Dusty would have hoisted if he became champion. It's not

968
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,199
like Cody wanted to bring that belt back. Even though

969
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,119
the whole idea is to do what Dusty couldn't, he

970
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:57,840
wants to bring back the belt that Dusty barely sniffed,

971
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,480
never even challenged for as far as I recall, yep,

972
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:04,000
because he knows what we know in our hearts that

973
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,119
the wing Egle belt is the only belt that has

974
00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:14,119
ever mattered in terms of the absolute peak of design, geometry,

975
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,280
proportion impact. And while it might not have been around,

976
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,760
waste set a time of record business for the WWF,

977
00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:23,920
it's the only one anyone wants to keep alive. And

978
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:30,079
so point made. But yeah, definitely, definitely a good observation

979
00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:32,000
in that you got to remember, it's the end of

980
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,880
whole comania when that belt comes out. It really is

981
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,599
right beginning of the end, we should say. All right,

982
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:44,519
so let's see. We also hear from Carlo who writes

983
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:46,719
to us regarding out living Vince, and this is of

984
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,360
course in reference to the CID tribute where we played

985
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,159
a clip of a shoot interview remark he made one

986
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:54,119
time about after leaving WWF, he would run the bleachers

987
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:56,119
like he would do for his exercise, and then get

988
00:52:56,199 --> 00:52:58,440
to the top and spit and step down. And it

989
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:01,400
was like, Vince, he was stepping on right. And he

990
00:53:01,519 --> 00:53:03,119
took solace in the idea that he was going to

991
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:05,280
outlive Vince McMahon one day and feel like he won,

992
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:07,320
because at the time of that interview he was at

993
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,400
a very clear loggerheads with Vince McMahon. Carla makes a

994
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,360
great observation regarding out living Vince and to bring my

995
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:19,280
English to gree to bear see lago and Othello Othello Iago,

996
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,880
not lago Iago? Did he spell it right? Oh it's

997
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,360
a capital I I'm sorry. I thought it was a

998
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:31,559
lowercase l okay Iago and othello Othello. If that thou

999
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:35,199
beest a devil, I cannot kill thee he stabs Iago,

1000
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:41,280
Lodovico wrench his sword from him, or Othello is disarmed Iago,

1001
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:42,480
I bleed, sir.

1002
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 2: But not killed. M that's Vince, baby, that is Vince.

1003
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 4: Of course, sid also had that weird fucking crash out

1004
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:56,719
thing about the Israel character that he came up. Oh

1005
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,679
my God, and Carlosa points out Genesis thirty two, twenty

1006
00:54:00,679 --> 00:54:02,960
two to thirty two. After Jacob wrestles with God, God

1007
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:05,480
gives him a new gimmick, a new name, Israel. What

1008
00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:08,679
do you think about that? Pal mm And she wrestled

1009
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,559
with God. That's me And every time you do, I'm

1010
00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:13,920
gonna break your body part your body apart, you worthless

1011
00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:16,840
piece of shit. I'm not a theologian, but I think

1012
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,199
it went something like that. I mean, it's just too

1013
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,199
rich some of the things that Sit ended up saying.

1014
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,639
We also talked about it really is. I mean he

1015
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,880
was such a I mean, what a bizarre He's sound

1016
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,679
of his fucking mind, he really is. You hear the

1017
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:34,480
guy talk for like twenty minutes and you're like, what, Like,

1018
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,559
it's not psychobabble, it's not like he's speaking in tongues,

1019
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:40,920
but it's like, like, why did you say all that?

1020
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:41,159
Speaker 8: Like?

1021
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:41,599
Speaker 7: What? What?

1022
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,159
Speaker 4: What point you're trying to make there? Like I followed

1023
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:45,639
the words that came out of your mouth, but I'm

1024
00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:48,920
not understanding why you said that. That's like, what am

1025
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:49,639
I supposed to write?

1026
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:52,599
Speaker 2: How is that to follow?

1027
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 5: Right?

1028
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: Right?

1029
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 4: That's how he would say it. We also talk about Lambert's,

1030
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,920
which is a restaurant that, uh, that was I believe

1031
00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:04,519
it came up. I'm not mistaken. Sid was trying to

1032
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:06,320
recall where he met with Eric Bischoff to come back

1033
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,440
in ninety nine. Was it a Cracker Bell or was

1034
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,599
it a Lambert's? Or maybe he met someone at a

1035
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:13,280
Lambert's down the street or something. Yeah, and we're like,

1036
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,039
what is Lambert? We just won't hip to it, and

1037
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:17,760
Blake immediately pipes up, I saw Lambert's mentioned. I come

1038
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,840
from Sykeston, which is in Missouri. Not sure if you

1039
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,039
were aware of the story of the family when Todd.

1040
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,880
I guess Todd is the progenitor of Lambert's restaurant. Of course,

1041
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:31,119
this is the home of the throw role. I think

1042
00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:36,880
it's called where they actually they throw. They throw the

1043
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,039
roll across the restaurant if you put your hand up

1044
00:55:39,079 --> 00:55:41,159
instead of delivering a basket of bread to your table.

1045
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,039
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. It's kind of funny. Would I

1046
00:55:44,039 --> 00:55:45,440
would love to experience that?

1047
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 4: And you tell me, would this be the story of

1048
00:55:48,199 --> 00:55:50,199
somebody who found out a restaurant chain that engaged in

1049
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,840
such tactics. When Todd died, I'm sure high in cocaine

1050
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,079
and ludes, Blake writes, just took it. Just look at

1051
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:00,239
the face. Norman, the patriarch fell apart. He eventually shot

1052
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,320
himself in his driveway, but there were rolls to be sold.

1053
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,639
The later turmoil involved in one of the suns being

1054
00:56:05,679 --> 00:56:08,519
a child sex pest gentlemen, we are beyond the looking glass.

1055
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:17,519
Speaker 2: Here we are Vienna. Yeah that I'm down with. We

1056
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:23,920
are Vienna. And he's sent us a tweet about someone

1057
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,079
in the family and the guy who killed himself named Norman,

1058
00:56:26,119 --> 00:56:28,719
and it says the tweet says, it's just it's just

1059
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,519
a screenshot, so it's it's kind of funny, and it's

1060
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:33,440
just like someone tweeted this in all earnestness.

1061
00:56:34,119 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 4: Norman got cancer and didn't want to be a burden

1062
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,400
to his family. He mowed front and backyard, washed both cars,

1063
00:56:39,679 --> 00:56:41,960
then blew his brains out with a handgun. What the

1064
00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:47,760
fuck Lambert's Lambert's darkness. That's right, So just the line says,

1065
00:56:48,599 --> 00:56:52,679
throwing a roll, all right, boss. The the end of

1066
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,280
the Bond Journey hit people in the fields, Luke wrote,

1067
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,320
I wept watching this movie at the cinema. You know

1068
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,599
what movie is talking about? Take care, guess well, no

1069
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,280
time to die, No time to die. I wept watching

1070
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,159
this movie at the cinema. I wet watching it again recently,

1071
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,800
and I wept listening to this episode. Just beautifully done.

1072
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:16,800
Stuff boys, Thanks UTC, Yep, Matt, Hello CoA chairs. I

1073
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,840
was sick and tired of being a three sixteen tier

1074
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,400
jobber and decided to politic my way into the mid

1075
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,119
card by joining the executive producer Tear. I'm not sure

1076
00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:26,679
if anyone Lapsed Universe or the mainstream media has picked

1077
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:27,920
up on this yet, but I wanted to share a

1078
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,039
quick observation about Chapel Roane. Do you know Chapel Roane

1079
00:57:31,079 --> 00:57:33,679
Boss Chapel ron No, I don't know a singer.

1080
00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

1081
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,679
Speaker 4: At the roughly fifty one second mark in her hit

1082
00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:40,280
single Pink Pony Club, she says club exactly like lapsed

1083
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:45,599
Bruno Club, Merry Christmas in.

1084
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: That that would be CLAHB Club. I have to listen

1085
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:51,920
to it. I don't know.

1086
00:57:52,039 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 4: I think she's from like Missouri. I don't know why

1087
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,320
should say it like that, but now I must find it.

1088
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,880
He also wrote back this hilarious. He writes back and says,

1089
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:02,679
I dropped the bisl I put Universe instead of Solar

1090
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,480
System in my email. The pain and shame never rands

1091
00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:09,159
does not. There are proprieties around here, there are, you

1092
00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:14,239
know etiquette. Great interview with Tony Van Silva, which you've

1093
00:58:14,239 --> 00:58:17,039
heard by now, what a story that was?

1094
00:58:17,199 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 7: Boss?

1095
00:58:17,559 --> 00:58:20,159
Speaker 4: Finding about this guy as you're researching the Bond films

1096
00:58:20,239 --> 00:58:22,159
knowing he was a grappler and having no idea about

1097
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:24,679
anything further about him. But the man was alive. And

1098
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,719
when the man is alive, boss, that's when we really

1099
00:58:26,719 --> 00:58:27,679
start doing some damage.

1100
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: Gotta give you know, gotta gotta give it a shot,

1101
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:32,719
you know. There I listen. I reached out to Joe

1102
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,639
Fowler that time, try to get to try to see

1103
00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:37,320
if I could get get in touch with him. He

1104
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:42,199
never responded, and you know, just lucked out, lucked out

1105
00:58:42,239 --> 00:58:47,239
that he that he was as cool as a fucking cucumber.

1106
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,159
Oh so ready for something like this. Yeah, And I'm

1107
00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:54,280
happy that he you know. And then I mean, and

1108
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,280
let me tell you this. So I I told him,

1109
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,840
you know, I on Patreon, I posted all those pictures,

1110
00:59:02,199 --> 00:59:03,400
all those pictures.

1111
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 4: Of him, of him black and white in the wrestling trunks,

1112
00:59:07,679 --> 00:59:11,079
just shooting, you know, catching his catch can yep.

1113
00:59:11,199 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 2: And I said, and I asked him. I asked him,

1114
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,760
I said, you know, hey, because it's like I thought

1115
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,559
it'd be fun when I was designing whatever the the

1116
00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:23,079
you know, poster idea was going to be for the episode,

1117
00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:24,559
Like I was like, you know, it'd be fun to

1118
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:29,199
have an actual, an actual photo of him instead of

1119
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,320
you know, the ones like a photo of him wrestling

1120
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,920
if you had them. And so I just askedim, I said,

1121
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,480
you have a picture of you I could use as

1122
00:59:35,559 --> 00:59:38,880
the as the poster for it. And he sent me

1123
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:47,239
ten pictures amazing from his illegitimate wrestling days, from his

1124
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:55,599
legitimate wrestling days and from his uh stunt stuff. Like

1125
00:59:55,679 --> 00:59:59,679
it's just it's absolutely spectacular, and they're beautiful, beautiful pictures.

1126
01:00:00,679 --> 01:00:06,000
So really, I can't. I'm eternally grateful that that not

1127
01:00:06,159 --> 01:00:09,480
only that he was he was cool enough to come

1128
01:00:09,559 --> 01:00:12,159
on and and talk with us for an hour, but

1129
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:15,119
also the fact that he is like, you know, let

1130
01:00:15,159 --> 01:00:18,800
me know if you need anything else and uh and

1131
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,840
and he and he had fun. Just a great, great guy.

1132
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 4: It's great when we considerenade wrestlers when they're still alive

1133
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,039
instead of after they've pack.

1134
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: Again rediscovered them like that, we'll discover them like rediscovery.

1135
01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:34,960
Fuck rediscovered discover If we don't exist, no one knows

1136
01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:37,039
the story of this guy's wrestling career, and no one

1137
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:40,679
cares no and and and this guy's fast, and he's

1138
01:00:40,719 --> 01:00:44,239
got so many stories. I don't think that I I. Yeah,

1139
01:00:44,239 --> 01:00:46,400
I forged you the story that he told me. Well,

1140
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,519
I got me a MeMail he people should know this.

1141
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,159
After the interview dropped, he wrote you a follow up

1142
01:00:51,159 --> 01:00:55,079
because this guy loved the fact that someone cared enough

1143
01:00:55,519 --> 01:00:56,760
to reach out and hear him out.

1144
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 4: Yep, amazing. He wrote Hi, just to say thank you

1145
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,119
for the interview. If you need any more andf'll let

1146
01:01:01,159 --> 01:01:03,360
me know. I forgot to tell an amusing story. I

1147
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,400
was in a tag team with a man called Bruce Britton.

1148
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:07,840
He had no shape at all, so someone nicknamed him

1149
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,320
snake Hips. We were top of the bill against the

1150
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,639
Coggins Brothers, glamour Boys of the South, white boot trunks

1151
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:18,440
and jacket. Bruce arrives with an Ali Baba basket. It

1152
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,800
had a snake inside. His friend had a pet shop,

1153
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,239
so we were in the ring first to lots of booze.

1154
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,000
I lift the lid off the basket and pulled the

1155
01:01:25,039 --> 01:01:27,000
snake out. It's limped like a piece of rope.

1156
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: It had died. Oh.

1157
01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 4: I shook it about, draped it around Brook's neck. We

1158
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,119
both had our hands on it. I then put it

1159
01:01:34,199 --> 01:01:36,400
around my neck. Then we looked like we fought to

1160
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,880
get the snake back in the basket and had suffocated

1161
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,079
because of the cigarette smoke. His friend was not too pleased.

1162
01:01:41,079 --> 01:01:44,280
In nineteen seventy one, it was worth seventy dollars all

1163
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,159
the best, tony seventy pounds, all the best, Tony. I mean,

1164
01:01:48,159 --> 01:01:49,280
do you mention getting that email?

1165
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 2: After talking to the guy for an hour, I was like,

1166
01:01:51,639 --> 01:01:54,920
Jesus Christ, why couldn't we fucking how'd you forget that one?

1167
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,440
That's a key one, man. I'm sure he's got so

1168
01:01:58,519 --> 01:01:59,719
many more, so many more.

1169
01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 4: Guy was a fucking he worked under bird as Serati.

1170
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,880
This is like a guy that anyone who knows about

1171
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,840
turn of the century shooters knew was like regarded far

1172
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,719
and wide as like the toughest guy, like Stu Hart

1173
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,920
used to talk about bird Aserati is the toughest guy

1174
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,000
he ever came up against. He was a working pro wrestler,

1175
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:18,679
but he was a shooter as well, you know, trained

1176
01:02:18,719 --> 01:02:20,000
and and and we got.

1177
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,719
Speaker 2: Pictures of him working with him, we did.

1178
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,519
Speaker 4: He had pictures of bird as Serati unbelievable, looking like

1179
01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:27,719
a fucking cubby broccoli or something.

1180
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, it's just what a.

1181
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 4: Pleasure, What a pleasure? And Christopher wrote on Patreon. I

1182
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,599
loved his honesty and humility. Zero bullshit detected. Wasn't that

1183
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:40,119
a surprise? You know that the guy who's a carny

1184
01:02:40,239 --> 01:02:42,199
like that didn't feel like he lied to us once,

1185
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:42,960
not even close.

1186
01:02:43,039 --> 01:02:47,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you know, I mean, uh, he he just

1187
01:02:47,719 --> 01:02:48,760
he was honest about it.

1188
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 9: He he.

1189
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,599
Speaker 2: You know, he's he's he's a person and I and

1190
01:02:54,679 --> 01:02:58,440
I do feel like that from you know, especially with

1191
01:02:58,599 --> 01:03:02,159
researching pat Roach and stuff like that, there is a

1192
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:10,719
much more down to earth kind of not as you know,

1193
01:03:11,519 --> 01:03:14,079
you know, got to protect k fabe right mentality right

1194
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,320
over in the UK regarding wrestling, right, I think they

1195
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:23,199
do to a degree, but they they also you know,

1196
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,639
admit what it is and they're okay with that. Yeah.

1197
01:03:27,719 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 4: It really was refreshing to hear how head on he

1198
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,440
was able to tackle those questions that I've always wondered about,

1199
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,480
you know, those styles in early nineteen hundred's British club wrestling,

1200
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:39,639
Like what what did the spectator think they were watching?

1201
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 8: Like?

1202
01:03:40,719 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 4: Right, did the spectator think it was real? Because from

1203
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,719
what I can tell, the style you you worked really

1204
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,639
could have allowed you to convince people it was real.

1205
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,079
But no, they were out there pantomiming. They were out there,

1206
01:03:50,679 --> 01:03:53,440
you know, exaggerating and trying to get laughs out of

1207
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:54,960
the crowd as much as they were trying to get

1208
01:03:55,239 --> 01:03:57,400
you know, a dramatic rise out of them is just wonderful.

1209
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,719
And if we did nothing else in podcasting to surface

1210
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,519
the story of a guy like that, or a guy

1211
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:05,440
like Tom Fleming who worked for ww F in the

1212
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:08,039
art department, these little moments and opportunities we've had talking

1213
01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:11,400
to fucking Brell Kurt Fuller, mm hmm, these little moments

1214
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,920
where we actually like talk to the outside world and

1215
01:04:15,559 --> 01:04:17,840
in some cases elevate the stories trick me under the

1216
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,480
cinemat yep of people that you never would have really

1217
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:22,719
known about the contributions that that would have made it

1218
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,800
worth it. Another miss of relative to a gift under

1219
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,280
our tree this year is part of the unwrappening. Remember

1220
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,119
we got a copy of the European Rampage show in

1221
01:04:30,199 --> 01:04:32,000
Germany and one on a big wrong thing about what

1222
01:04:32,159 --> 01:04:36,320
is European Rampage, because there's twenty three shows named European Rampage.

1223
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,320
Ben who sent the gift from Germany, was quick to

1224
01:04:40,639 --> 01:04:44,519
follow up immediately to let us know his perspective on

1225
01:04:44,599 --> 01:04:47,880
things and try to delineate show from show. Dear coach Chairman,

1226
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,719
this follow up emeal is necessary for different reasons. First off,

1227
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,800
you asked yourself how merry Christmas is said in German, Well,

1228
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,880
that's freu wine Hutchin.

1229
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,679
Speaker 2: I hope I didn't screw it up too badly freu Viimhunchin.

1230
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 4: At the end of my letter that you butchered would

1231
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,679
have been it, Yeah, butcher did. All right, Yeah, it's

1232
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,199
Vine right you pronounced w V. Then you wanted to

1233
01:05:07,239 --> 01:05:08,719
know what I had against the Pain in the Pacific

1234
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,440
series and you wanted to follow up on that. Oh yeah,

1235
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,159
I forget this. Let me say first, I'm a big

1236
01:05:13,199 --> 01:05:14,880
fan for almost a decade now, and I've listened to

1237
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,440
every single TLF episode multiple times, so it's very rare

1238
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,199
that I don't dig what you, chairman offer. And I

1239
01:05:19,239 --> 01:05:21,480
also encountered countless times when you drop something that I

1240
01:05:21,559 --> 01:05:23,480
was skeptical about it first and then totally in love

1241
01:05:23,519 --> 01:05:25,639
while listening to it. So that is that the only

1242
01:05:25,679 --> 01:05:27,400
exception in all these years is the Pain in the

1243
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,559
Pacific series. I liked the North Korea episode and everything

1244
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:34,840
after that felt like you guys say, changiyachi, pumba gachi,

1245
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,559
and sompahachi for.

1246
01:05:37,679 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 2: Hours on end.

1247
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,039
Speaker 4: I was very surprised myself and glad when it was over.

1248
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,440
But since you guys are so proud of it and

1249
01:05:47,519 --> 01:05:49,360
I normally love everything you take a deep dive on,

1250
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,199
I will give it a second try in the new year.

1251
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,039
That's the spirit, Ben. But what about again, I don't

1252
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:54,719
know what about it?

1253
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,239
Speaker 2: What was I don't know.

1254
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,599
Speaker 4: He just doesn't think it's funny when we have a

1255
01:05:58,719 --> 01:06:01,239
laugh at the way words are pretty instant Japanese. Oh,

1256
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:06,119
I mean, I'm yeah, okay, I mean it's fair. It's

1257
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:08,800
there's some legendary matches too, that we had a lot

1258
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,559
of fun with. When I think of pan Off s Pacific,

1259
01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:13,000
I don't think of like. I don't think of laughing

1260
01:06:13,039 --> 01:06:15,760
at the Japanese announcers. I think of a ready Savage

1261
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,079
versus nature Tenryo, like I think of power bombs where

1262
01:06:19,079 --> 01:06:21,079
he's being stacked up like he's a junior heavyweight.

1263
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: I think of I think of Randy Savage not knowing

1264
01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:29,480
who Lanny is, and Lanny, uh, you know, watching Elizabeth

1265
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:31,559
for Randy when he's overseas.

1266
01:06:32,519 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 4: That's where that came. From That's exactly right. I do

1267
01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:37,840
think he Chubon is Hogan's on, but I think of

1268
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,599
a Axi boom bag, you know, I think of like

1269
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,639
I think of Hogan. I mean this step over and

1270
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,280
maybe maybe it's the you know, I don't have to

1271
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,119
go and and and re listen to it myself, but

1272
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,320
I for me anyway, it's not necessarily the im I

1273
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:57,159
don't want to be laughing or making fun of the words.

1274
01:06:57,159 --> 01:07:01,119
Speaker 2: It's really the enthusiasm. Yeah, well, the announcers and I

1275
01:07:01,199 --> 01:07:03,920
just don't know how to say Japanese words, so murder.

1276
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,280
Every time someone does something right, it's like it's more

1277
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,199
about how they scream and and are you know, just

1278
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,800
fucking blowing blood vessels left and right that I think

1279
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,480
is hilarious just because of their intensity, Like it's amazing.

1280
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:20,760
I mean, and again I don't know how to say.

1281
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,599
If I knew how to say Japanese words, I would

1282
01:07:22,599 --> 01:07:24,599
be more respectful of the Japanese words, but I don't.

1283
01:07:25,239 --> 01:07:28,719
I don't know Japanese, so it's I if I'm going

1284
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:34,840
to imitate a Japanese commentator, it's gonna be complete nonsense.

1285
01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:36,719
I'm just here for at the top of my lungs

1286
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,719
Hogan stepping over into an armbar exactly. You know what

1287
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,719
I mean. We're fucking doing a drop toe hold, you know,

1288
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,840
into a yeah, like come on, yeah, when he does

1289
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:50,360
the fucking rolling arm bar, that's just you know, we're

1290
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:51,719
in a whole different level here, right.

1291
01:07:52,519 --> 01:07:54,119
Speaker 4: And last, but not the least, he writes, I wanted

1292
01:07:54,119 --> 01:07:56,440
to clear up the European Rampage nineteen ninety two BS.

1293
01:07:56,679 --> 01:07:58,519
That name was used so often by the WWE that

1294
01:07:58,559 --> 01:08:00,639
it stays confusing to you. I noticed all that other

1295
01:08:00,719 --> 01:08:03,280
European Rampage nineteen ninety two stuff aside. The event you

1296
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,960
got from me is a German only event from Munich

1297
01:08:06,159 --> 01:08:07,880
which ushered in the Golden.

1298
01:08:07,559 --> 01:08:10,599
Speaker 2: Period over here. Very interesting as far as I know.

1299
01:08:10,679 --> 01:08:13,519
Speaker 4: The Colisseum European Rampage nineteen ninety two also has a

1300
01:08:13,559 --> 01:08:15,079
Savage versus h Tobk match?

1301
01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:17,239
Speaker 2: Is that true? Do you resin? Yeah, yeah, we did

1302
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:19,800
that one. Then it has the Sid and Sid and

1303
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,439
Undertaker match, but that is after WrestleMania two.

1304
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,399
Speaker 4: But that is from London. WrestleMania right, nineteen ninety two?

1305
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:29,159
You mean yeah, you said WrestleMania too. You mean WrestleMania

1306
01:08:29,159 --> 01:08:31,560
in Russlania. Yeah, Wrestlinia eight rather, but that.

1307
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:32,279
Speaker 2: Is from London.

1308
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 4: Maybe one or two of the Munich matches also made

1309
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,239
it to the other cassettes, but this event as a

1310
01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:38,840
whole is forgotten by time and surely was never on

1311
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,159
the network because it only exists in German and was,

1312
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:43,159
as far as I know, only released in Germany.

1313
01:08:43,399 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: Back then.

1314
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,319
Speaker 4: The ww station Tel Aviv made it a big weekend

1315
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:48,680
sports special. That is the version I've sent you this year,

1316
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,279
and they also released it as a German cassette. That's

1317
01:08:51,319 --> 01:08:53,840
the version from last year. So I'm ninety nine percent

1318
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,000
sure that you have not seen the show before, you

1319
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,079
would remember a good two hours of the Finest nineteen

1320
01:08:58,119 --> 01:09:01,439
ninety two German commentary by Karston Shah. Trust me, I think,

1321
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,560
oh yes, I think the show has some amusing moments.

1322
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,479
Hitman wants to fuck, the interview Lady the Bulldog is

1323
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,399
on all wow, good old times. Plus Germany was totally

1324
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,760
on fire with the WWF in nineteen ninety two. So

1325
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,399
if you guys want to give it the treatment, let

1326
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,159
me know in advance and I'll give you back story,

1327
01:09:15,239 --> 01:09:17,960
translations and everything. He sounds like a deal, Ben, What

1328
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,880
do you say, boss, I think we have to put

1329
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,079
that one fast track. That motherfucker.

1330
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 2: Enough of all that, he writes, I hope you guys

1331
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,000
haven't say there were two.

1332
01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:27,319
Speaker 4: He gave us two, yeah, he said, the year before

1333
01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:28,760
he gave us the one that was released as a

1334
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,119
German VHS cassette. Oh so it's that European rampage, but

1335
01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:33,840
this is the one that aired just to say television

1336
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,880
special and wasn't released as a standalone VHS tape.

1337
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:39,279
Speaker 2: Enough of all that.

1338
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,359
Speaker 4: I hope you guys have an awesome Christmas with your

1339
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,159
loved ones. Don't stop the good work. Greetings from Germany,

1340
01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:45,399
and I'm gonna.

1341
01:09:45,159 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 2: Try it again. Freud Vine Hotchen, Ben bro Vine Hotchin.

1342
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:56,720
I a love that international base. Yes hear it, totally.

1343
01:09:57,199 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 4: TLFHQ David writes on the Tony Van Sylvan Interview, awesome interview.

1344
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,760
Glad you gave this lovely gent the chance to discuss

1345
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,920
his career. Hoping he dusts off those boots, puts on

1346
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,119
that clown suit and does a four fifty like Andre.

1347
01:10:11,239 --> 01:10:12,880
That is one thing we forgot to ask him as

1348
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,640
if he can do a four to fifty splash?

1349
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1350
01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 2: Did he did? He was he how often and how

1351
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,560
often did he jump off the top rope to the

1352
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,760
floor head first, head first? Exactly?

1353
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 4: I love the homie Zack's insights. He immediately picked up

1354
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,239
on this one on Sid. He wrote on Patreon, someone

1355
01:10:30,359 --> 01:10:32,880
like Sid thinks they're a great liar because of the

1356
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:37,000
details in their lies. M But the extra small details

1357
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:39,680
just clue everyone with half a brain to the fact

1358
01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:42,840
that this fool is lying to me. Yes, isn't that

1359
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,880
the truth? Yes, he's got these big convoluted like I

1360
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,880
walked in the door. The phone was ringing, it was

1361
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,159
clicked over and call waiting.

1362
01:10:49,239 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 2: I was my phone was I had to wipe off number,

1363
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,239
the number two because it had a little there was

1364
01:10:55,279 --> 01:10:56,079
a dead bug on it.

1365
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 4: We got some uh, we got some squawking because the

1366
01:11:01,039 --> 01:11:03,319
Sid thing was so long. Myron isn't with that, Myron

1367
01:11:03,359 --> 01:11:05,520
writes on Patreon. Why did they only do ten deep

1368
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,520
dives for Sid? Is it because he's not a big

1369
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:10,800
movie star like Hull Cogan?

1370
01:11:16,039 --> 01:11:17,159
Speaker 2: Yes? Is that for the win?

1371
01:11:17,319 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 3: Or what?

1372
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 5: Uh?

1373
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,239
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's the It's that is you know

1374
01:11:21,399 --> 01:11:24,319
I I I watched that clip so many fucking times

1375
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,520
when I was a kid. It's it is one of

1376
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,600
those things that I just totally equate with Sid forever.

1377
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:35,479
Oh totally, almost more than almost more than uh than

1378
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,279
ruler of the world, totally. Like you know, it's like

1379
01:11:39,359 --> 01:11:42,119
Bogus too, is from that right Bogus? Yeah?

1380
01:11:42,399 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, Bogus, you ever pulled off Sid? And I

1381
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,720
want to know, is it because Sid Justice is a newcomer?

1382
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,920
It's because I'm not a big movie star.

1383
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:03,119
Speaker 2: It's like a Hulk Hogan so good, such fucking great

1384
01:12:03,239 --> 01:12:07,840
promot at the quote unquote press conference that Nope, that

1385
01:12:08,039 --> 01:12:10,600
was like in a in like a cubicle.

1386
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,319
Speaker 4: Neil makes a great point too, you know about the

1387
01:12:14,359 --> 01:12:16,560
Sid journey, He writes, It's still unclear to me what

1388
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:22,000
will happen if I It's don't got me. It's still

1389
01:12:22,119 --> 01:12:24,119
unclear to me. What will happen if I send a

1390
01:12:24,199 --> 01:12:27,479
bunch of Vienna sausages to the middle of Arkansas. What

1391
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,119
will happen visa via the exchange of pro wrestling memorabilia?

1392
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna send him a graph picture.

1393
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 7: That.

1394
01:12:37,119 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 4: Scott Michael makes a great point. He says, another absolutely

1395
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,239
tremendous journey You've taken the solar system on with Sid.

1396
01:12:42,319 --> 01:12:43,159
Speaker 2: Here in the end.

1397
01:12:43,279 --> 01:12:45,239
Speaker 4: We may have lost Sid, but we still have Frank,

1398
01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:46,800
who is a different type of sausage.

1399
01:12:52,399 --> 01:12:57,399
Speaker 2: I also lovely just fucking completely you know, like just

1400
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:02,880
buried Frank Journey, just completely buried.

1401
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 4: He was on Big Brother talking about how it's kind

1402
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,560
of tough being Sid's son. That's all we needed to hear.

1403
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,640
That's all we needed to hear. That's all we needed

1404
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,720
to hear. And we know exactly how he was treated.

1405
01:13:15,039 --> 01:13:18,399
We know exactly what Sid did not do. The Vienna

1406
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,319
bat signal in the sky. What a great AI picture

1407
01:13:21,399 --> 01:13:24,279
someone sent of us. So like the things Shining said

1408
01:13:24,319 --> 01:13:28,119
in his hands on his hands, so, oh my god, dangerous.

1409
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:28,399
Speaker 3: Man.

1410
01:13:29,039 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 4: If we can start like manifesting the fucking wild scenarios

1411
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,640
we come up with that easily, we're going to find

1412
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,159
ourselves in a very difficult position.

1413
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,279
Speaker 2: Hey, you know, speaking of by the way, I want

1414
01:13:38,319 --> 01:13:41,800
to go back to quickly to uh the carnies are

1415
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:45,039
forever the guy crying. Did you see what they've been

1416
01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:48,359
posting on Twitter? Oh my god, that's the serendipity we've

1417
01:13:48,359 --> 01:13:52,880
been waiting for. Tell the people that so apparently I

1418
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:57,439
mean that the new James Bond is installed. They've they've

1419
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:02,479
kind of it's not happening right now. That Uh, also,

1420
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,239
what producer Brenda Broccoli, Who the fuck is Brenda Broccoli?

1421
01:14:06,359 --> 01:14:09,439
That might just be Barbara Broccoli. That might just be

1422
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:14,479
a typo. And apparently like Broccoli, whoever the broccoli is,

1423
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,720
it's got to be here, he said, Like they're fucking

1424
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,399
idiots at Amazon for colling Amazon content exactly. And you

1425
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:31,000
know what, She's fucking right, you don't call Bond content unbelievable?

1426
01:14:31,319 --> 01:14:35,279
Speaker 4: Can imagine I'm so happy that she got annoyed by that. Yep,

1427
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,039
that that shows that there's still some sanity left in

1428
01:14:38,079 --> 01:14:42,319
the world. And you can see some like total dip

1429
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,760
shit fucking digital native being like it's it's great content.

1430
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:46,479
We love Bond.

1431
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 2: Well, listen, listen, you know thinking about I mean, James

1432
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:50,920
Bond is prime content.

1433
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, back to your fucking pocket calculator. Ye, get

1434
01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:01,079
the fuck off the negotiating table and and buy a

1435
01:15:01,159 --> 01:15:02,800
pair of actual dress shoes.

1436
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,520
Speaker 2: Do we favor Just fucking put your head down in

1437
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,399
a toilet, all right, and just stay there.

1438
01:15:09,119 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 4: How about in the end when Sid was talking about

1439
01:15:11,079 --> 01:15:12,880
on his own podcast and the end of our journey

1440
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,399
about how like there was that guy who was such

1441
01:15:14,399 --> 01:15:16,119
a big fan that he bothered him on the phone

1442
01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:17,800
all the time and basically tried to move in with him.

1443
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,840
Remember that, and you see Joe you can't William writes

1444
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,439
on Patreon quote Joe, you can't come here. That's what

1445
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:29,520
Sid said the Sidduty story William Wright's Bottle of Water.

1446
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,079
I made a sentimental comment about Sid when this journey began.

1447
01:15:32,319 --> 01:15:34,479
I still stand by saying that his charisma was unique

1448
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,079
and phenomenal. I always was aware of the Scissors story,

1449
01:15:37,119 --> 01:15:39,399
but not the details. That was way more fucked up

1450
01:15:39,399 --> 01:15:40,920
than I thought. I said that it seemed like he

1451
01:15:41,039 --> 01:15:43,319
had a loving family than Frank.

1452
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:45,279
Speaker 2: Poor kid.

1453
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 4: And still, after what forty hours William Wright's of the

1454
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,520
most definitive testimony to Sid's life, I still don't know

1455
01:15:54,119 --> 01:15:56,680
what made him tick. I'm going to have to go

1456
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,000
back and do it again and see if I can

1457
01:15:58,079 --> 01:16:00,640
glean more clarity. Thank you, gentlemen for your service, and

1458
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:02,479
Maysanta Claus bring you out what you want, but what

1459
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,399
you need. That one was that was a hidden gem,

1460
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:06,159
that Sid thing.

1461
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 2: Yeah really was really was.

1462
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,560
Speaker 4: Lucas mckechern. We want to thank you very much for

1463
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,880
your generous pledge and hope you enjoy the content that

1464
01:16:13,039 --> 01:16:16,319
it affords you. Scott writes new utc Er. I was

1465
01:16:16,359 --> 01:16:18,479
walking in my house, clicked on this, puzzled what it

1466
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,960
could be, and I stopped and stared when the boss

1467
01:16:21,079 --> 01:16:22,800
said what it was? What do you think he was

1468
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:23,319
referring to.

1469
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,039
Speaker 2: I believe I saw that. I think it was the

1470
01:16:28,119 --> 01:16:29,520
Home Alone Christmas Special.

1471
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 4: Yes, the under the Centiment twenty two Christmas Special, which

1472
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,760
you posted without any hint in the title is time.

1473
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 2: I don't ever, that's the thing I do Christmas, the

1474
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,119
Christmas specials, never any That's what it is. It's the

1475
01:16:40,199 --> 01:16:43,439
Christmas Special. There's no I don't want any give me clue.

1476
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:44,079
It's a surprise.

1477
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,079
Speaker 4: We talked a little bit in the Sid Journey about

1478
01:16:47,119 --> 01:16:51,119
a company that Sid worked for way later when he

1479
01:16:51,199 --> 01:16:53,000
was doing some indie shots in his last years in

1480
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,840
the ring, called aw R and Steve and are men

1481
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,479
on the ground in Ireland quickly jumped in intoid a

1482
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,119
small correction for Jack A double A was an Irish

1483
01:17:01,159 --> 01:17:04,760
wrestling company. American Wrestling Rampage. Okay, oh you got that straight.

1484
01:17:05,239 --> 01:17:09,760
American Wrestling Rampage was an Irish promotion They did frequent

1485
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:10,479
tours of Europe.

1486
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 2: To be confused with the European Rampage. That's a whole

1487
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,800
different thing that was in America exactly. I understand African

1488
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,079
Rampage was in Columbia as well. Yes, that's what I heard.

1489
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,079
Speaker 4: They did frequent tours of Europe with guys like Sid

1490
01:17:23,119 --> 01:17:24,960
and Brett Hart. All the Irish wrestlers I've talked to

1491
01:17:25,039 --> 01:17:26,640
have nothing but good things to say about working with

1492
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,279
Brett on these shows. RVD and Dupree were also semi

1493
01:17:29,319 --> 01:17:32,159
regulars on the Irish scene, and we're champions in AWR.

1494
01:17:32,319 --> 01:17:36,199
AWR itself was the precursor to OTT. I know, Ott. Yeah,

1495
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,680
the Irish promotion. The elite worked at Scrapplemania three Steve Wrights.

1496
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,840
If I ever choose to go bankrupt, it will be

1497
01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:46,359
trying to get that into the hopper. Wow, all right,

1498
01:17:46,359 --> 01:17:49,000
I want to watch one day that the Young Bucks

1499
01:17:49,079 --> 01:17:53,479
breakthroughs as global indie sensations and an Irish wrestling promotion.

1500
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:58,399
Speaker 2: Boss. I mean, honestly, I would be fascinaing to see that. Nice,

1501
01:17:58,760 --> 01:17:59,880
I would be fastening to see that.

1502
01:18:00,079 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 4: Well, Steve, I mean Savior Pennies, So go for it.

1503
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,800
Graveyard entertainment rights. Sid is the carneist of the Carnie.

1504
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:08,920
That podcast proves it.

1505
01:18:09,159 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 2: Damn.

1506
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 4: Jorome writes to us, Sid's passing was the greatest gift

1507
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,039
to this podcast because this tribute served us the perfect

1508
01:18:21,119 --> 01:18:23,560
ending to the tenth year. That montage of him talking

1509
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,560
about Vienna's was absurd, hilarious, Oh my, sad and oddly moving,

1510
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:27,720
tlf and a nutshell.

1511
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,399
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I could not handle that. What were you

1512
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:35,279
going through? I mean I was. After about the first

1513
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:41,039
ten seconds, I put my thing on mute because I knew.

1514
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:46,600
I knew that I didn't want to be heard during this,

1515
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:52,399
and I also knew I could not contain myself listening

1516
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:52,640
to this.

1517
01:18:53,039 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 4: I lost it when he said stuff, tell somebody that

1518
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:02,079
can't have a can of viennas, like we all sympathize.

1519
01:19:03,279 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 2: What is this talking about? Where did you come from?

1520
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:12,359
Speaker 4: It's tough Jack, Tracy, So tough Jack Tracy. There's a

1521
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,039
name for the ages. Thank you very much for your

1522
01:19:14,079 --> 01:19:17,560
Patreon pledge. Welcome in, Jeff writes to us on Patreon.

1523
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,640
And in the end, the autograph pictures you take is

1524
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:20,359
equal to the.

1525
01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:21,159
Speaker 2: Vn as you make.

1526
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 4: Chad writes, I've got questions, had a few questions for

1527
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:28,399
you when you get around a Q and A one

1528
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,279
maybe somewhat relevant to the CID era and ninety two WWF.

1529
01:19:31,399 --> 01:19:34,720
Have you ever contemplated a world boss where late ninety

1530
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,479
two Vince had made a play to get Piper back

1531
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,800
and put the world title on Piper instead of Brett.

1532
01:19:39,399 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, I've never thought of that once,

1533
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,960
Not one s has that ever crossed my mind.

1534
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 4: I don't think it would work. I don't know if

1535
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,640
Piper going in in ninety three is some is a

1536
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,880
recipe for success. I feel like we got the answer

1537
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,199
at King of the Ring ninety four what Piper was

1538
01:19:58,239 --> 01:19:59,560
worth in that era, and it wasn't.

1539
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:04,199
Speaker 2: Much even I mean he was listen his his ninety

1540
01:20:04,279 --> 01:20:08,399
one ninety two run was obviously for me, it was

1541
01:20:09,399 --> 01:20:14,560
just wonderful, wonderful, absolutely, because I that's that's what I remember,

1542
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,760
you know, that was right right there in that sweet

1543
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:17,279
spot for me.

1544
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 4: But that was a Piper who was like but transitioned

1545
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,920
out of the ring, had the hit problem, was an

1546
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,920
announcer and was forced to come off the bench to

1547
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,199
kick ass one more time. That wasn't a Piper, that right,

1548
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,600
was going to be the best you know, wrestler in

1549
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:29,760
the promotion, thus reigning war.

1550
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, there's a part of me that damn

1551
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:37,159
well wished he fucking won the Royal Rumble ninety two. Yeah,

1552
01:20:37,359 --> 01:20:39,479
just to say that he fucking won both titles in

1553
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:39,920
one night.

1554
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,560
Speaker 4: Does it get any better than when he comes out

1555
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,880
against Flair. I could watch that every day. That's amazing

1556
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:45,760
for the rest of my life.

1557
01:20:46,279 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. And then because you know what, ultimately it

1558
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:55,000
leads into this great fucking this great bit bye bye

1559
01:20:55,319 --> 01:21:00,319
by Bobby Heenan, because then Jake's the next one out,

1560
01:21:01,079 --> 01:21:05,640
and so Jake then attacks both Piper and Flair and

1561
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,960
Pipe and then Piper goes after Jake, and Bobby Heenen says,

1562
01:21:09,399 --> 01:21:12,479
it's not a skirt, it's a kilt. It's a kilt.

1563
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:16,840
It's not a skirt. Then Piper goes to work on Flair.

1564
01:21:17,359 --> 01:21:20,319
It's not a kilt, it's a skirt. Wow, he goes

1565
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,359
right back to it. He goes right back to it

1566
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:28,039
in mere minutes. Just some of the best like it's

1567
01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:29,760
it's you want.

1568
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 4: To say it what Bobby Heenan, Bobby Heenan's Royal Rumbled

1569
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,000
nineteen ninety two call is the greatest call in the

1570
01:21:37,079 --> 01:21:38,279
history of professional wrestling.

1571
01:21:39,079 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 2: Yes, easily, easily, I couldn't. I you can't disagree with

1572
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:49,399
that easily. It's so brilliant. There's so much it's.

1573
01:21:49,319 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 5: The uh.

1574
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 2: Because he's he's, he's in the he's he's just torn

1575
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,960
on so many different areas because he does have loyalties

1576
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,000
to other wrestlers, but none are as important as Flair.

1577
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,560
Speaker 4: He gets Flair way over, Yes, he does. I mean

1578
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,039
without him as the voice as the soundtrack to Flair

1579
01:22:13,079 --> 01:22:15,279
coming into WWF, it would have hit the skids a

1580
01:22:15,319 --> 01:22:16,159
lot earlier than it did.

1581
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:24,399
Speaker 2: I think way way more valuable for Flair as a

1582
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:28,960
commentator and a financial advisor, yes, than a manager or

1583
01:22:29,039 --> 01:22:34,159
executive consultant. No question, Well there you go.

1584
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 4: No, I haven't considered it, and I'm not sure it

1585
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,920
would work, but Piper electrified me in that era. Man,

1586
01:22:39,199 --> 01:22:41,359
I've been considering all the options. It might not have

1587
01:22:41,399 --> 01:22:42,279
been a bad one if they had.

1588
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,319
Speaker 2: I mean, if you had maybe, if you had you know,

1589
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,039
Piper win. I mean, I'll tell you what, this could

1590
01:22:49,039 --> 01:22:54,239
be interesting if Piper does win the title. But you

1591
01:22:54,359 --> 01:22:58,039
are trying to go to Brett, have Brett win the

1592
01:22:58,119 --> 01:23:01,600
ninety three Rumble, Yeah, and then you have Piper and

1593
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,600
Brett have a rematch'd at WrestleMania nine.

1594
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 4: But again, that's like, that's putting the title on Piper,

1595
01:23:10,119 --> 01:23:11,920
not because we want to see Piper rain. It's it's

1596
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,600
putting the title on Piper because it's a way to

1597
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,560
get to Brett, which is great. I'm not saying it's bad,

1598
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,520
but I think what he's asking us to consider it

1599
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,760
is putting the belt on Piper to see what he

1600
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:20,359
can do with it.

1601
01:23:22,079 --> 01:23:24,520
Speaker 2: I don't think he don't much guy at that point.

1602
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,000
I don't mean ever was that guy?

1603
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:26,199
Speaker 7: Not?

1604
01:23:26,319 --> 01:23:26,560
Speaker 2: Really?

1605
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,239
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I think he could have

1606
01:23:28,279 --> 01:23:30,840
been a good heel champion eighty five. Hogan could have

1607
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,079
chased him for like a year and a half and

1608
01:23:32,079 --> 01:23:33,399
they could have made a lot more money than they

1609
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:38,279
did together. But at that point in Piper's career. Maybe always,

1610
01:23:38,319 --> 01:23:41,600
if we really think about it, it was Piper's appeal

1611
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:43,760
was what would it look like if Piper got in

1612
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,600
this guy's face. It wasn't Piper right in and of himself.

1613
01:23:47,039 --> 01:23:49,520
That was money. It was always what does Piper do

1614
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,039
to mister two? It was how Piper matched up with

1615
01:23:52,119 --> 01:23:53,960
different people on the mic and in the ring. That

1616
01:23:54,039 --> 01:23:57,239
intrigued us, not so much Piper reigning as champion, you know,

1617
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,600
and taking on all comers that I don't think that

1618
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,199
would work. It's like, you got to build up. People

1619
01:24:02,199 --> 01:24:04,239
want to see Piper go after this guy, not build

1620
01:24:04,319 --> 01:24:06,720
up other guys going after Piper. That just doesn't right,

1621
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,680
even if he's a gray baby face at that time.

1622
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,960
And he writes number two is the Colosseum collection still

1623
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,239
going to be a thing? You keep fucking tuned, Chad,

1624
01:24:16,039 --> 01:24:18,840
because the video store never closes around here, and damn right.

1625
01:24:19,039 --> 01:24:21,079
Thanks for Vienna Mania and keep up the good work. Well,

1626
01:24:21,119 --> 01:24:24,880
thank you, pal for the letter. Christopher also writes, when

1627
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,239
this started the Sid tribute, I felt Sid wasn't interesting

1628
01:24:27,279 --> 01:24:28,520
to cover for more than one episode.

1629
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:29,119
Speaker 2: I was wrong.

1630
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 4: Sid's a TLF cornerstone, and this has proven it to me.

1631
01:24:32,199 --> 01:24:34,319
It hit me in the ass like a shot. I've

1632
01:24:34,359 --> 01:24:37,680
looked forward to each episode since. Yeah, because it's not

1633
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,239
that Sid in and of himself, deserves like this. It's

1634
01:24:40,279 --> 01:24:43,560
a Sid is It's so TLF like who he was

1635
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,399
and the way he talked and the way he decided

1636
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:50,279
to move through the world is just exactly what we're

1637
01:24:50,399 --> 01:24:54,800
out to analyze on this show. Like he's not a

1638
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,039
SID tribute wouldn't really make sense. I don't think on

1639
01:24:57,079 --> 01:24:59,279
any other podcast or any other wrestling news thing.

1640
01:24:59,319 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you do it.

1641
01:25:00,119 --> 01:25:04,279
Speaker 4: He dies, of course, but his career doesn't really warrant

1642
01:25:04,319 --> 01:25:09,680
examination unless you have the peccadillos we do about the business,

1643
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,239
you know, and look for the things we look for,

1644
01:25:11,399 --> 01:25:13,159
and then all of a sudden, he's the fucking the

1645
01:25:13,279 --> 01:25:17,600
ultimate gold mine, which is another ruzon detra for us.

1646
01:25:19,399 --> 01:25:21,720
Adam writes, the other podcast are competing for who's going

1647
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,520
to be number two? Number one is already written in stone.

1648
01:25:25,319 --> 01:25:28,279
He also writes SID culturally in twenty twenty four, Vienna

1649
01:25:28,319 --> 01:25:31,720
sausages child neglect being on the cover of Art of

1650
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:36,239
Rap Albums thoroughly dissected by the best goddamn podcast out there.

1651
01:25:37,399 --> 01:25:39,600
That's how we're living boss going into twenty twenty five.

1652
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,199
That's yeah, so we're flowing.

1653
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:42,279
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1654
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 4: When I was going through some of the opponents that

1655
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,119
SID acrossed in that last decade on the indies, one

1656
01:25:46,119 --> 01:25:47,920
of them was Big Larry, which I was not aware

1657
01:25:48,359 --> 01:25:51,640
was a former wrestling name of the current Sammy z

1658
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,640
Ain of WWE and Sam from Michigan was quick to

1659
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,359
mention on Patreon Jack casually dropping a Big Larry reference

1660
01:25:57,399 --> 01:25:58,520
and not mentioning that he would go on to be

1661
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,800
Samy's Ain as hilarious. I will, I do not know that,

1662
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,680
So that wasn't me being cute with it.

1663
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: Wait, what I don't understand.

1664
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 4: Big Larry was a former name of Sammy's ain. Oh

1665
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,600
and when we were reading some of the guys sid

1666
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,880
wrestled on the indies, Big Larry was one of them.

1667
01:26:13,119 --> 01:26:15,079
And I think Sam thought I breezed by it, knowing

1668
01:26:15,159 --> 01:26:17,840
full well who he was, when I didn't. He provided

1669
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:21,479
a great YouTube link where apparently, I mean, I don't

1670
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,479
know what to make of it. He's speaking in almost

1671
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,880
like a like a give accent, and he's it's it's

1672
01:26:27,039 --> 01:26:31,399
it's Sammy's Ain trying to pass himself off as someone

1673
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:35,439
who's not a Caucasian, which I don't know if you

1674
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,159
it's very I don't writ anything about this gimmick, but

1675
01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:40,760
it is very strange and very against type, and I

1676
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,479
would urge folks to check it out. I love more

1677
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:46,560
color on Big Larry was all about who apparently getting

1678
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,880
color what right Urban Douglas is. He's getting green. He

1679
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,119
came in big with a recent pledge on Patreon and

1680
01:26:52,199 --> 01:26:53,960
is now entitled to all kinds of good He's mister

1681
01:26:54,039 --> 01:26:55,960
fake entertainment. It goes for him too, as he's up

1682
01:26:56,039 --> 01:26:59,520
the pledge significantly. Matt Anderson knows where it's at, and

1683
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:03,199
now he's ep in style and in substance work great

1684
01:27:03,359 --> 01:27:07,720
midget rights to us. WCW had a standard CGL policy. Yes,

1685
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,479
we have folks in the solar system that know about

1686
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:13,000
life insurance boss and work with insurance. Oh my god,

1687
01:27:13,239 --> 01:27:16,279
we have so many. He Sid made a third party

1688
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:20,680
over action claim high level and without the complaint. WCW

1689
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,520
insurance Company attempted to claim SID was an employee of WCW,

1690
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,399
thus the fellow employee exclusion was applicable. But SID was

1691
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,079
ten ninety nine, so the exclusion was not applicable. Hence

1692
01:27:30,199 --> 01:27:31,600
WCW was granted coverage.

1693
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 2: Got that, No, but sure, thanks for the clarification.

1694
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 4: That's one man, you know, no matter how many times

1695
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,840
I read over stuff about the insurance, it's it's very hard,

1696
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,720
yeah to sink in. But yeah, so SID is trying

1697
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,880
to claim like he he wasn't. Wait a minute, hold on,

1698
01:27:52,159 --> 01:27:55,720
there's an exclusion not applicable. There's an exclusion to what

1699
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,920
though attempted to claim Sid was an employee of WCW. Okay,

1700
01:27:59,399 --> 01:28:01,439
So the insurance company of WCW was trying to claim

1701
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,760
he was an employee because apparently if they could prove that,

1702
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,399
they wouldn't have to pay as much or they wouldn't. Oh,

1703
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,000
you couldn't argue that Sid wasn't paid by what they

1704
01:28:09,039 --> 01:28:12,279
paid WCW. Okay, this is correctact. Remember that they're like,

1705
01:28:12,319 --> 01:28:14,920
we already paid WCW, and Sid's like, well, I don't

1706
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,560
work for WCW. So whatever clause you think means that

1707
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,399
I get paid what I'm paid just because what I

1708
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,079
deserve to be paid because you paid WCW doesn't apply

1709
01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:26,199
because the way wrestling works, I am not an employee,

1710
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,199
So I'm not like you know, somebody that I can sue.

1711
01:28:30,239 --> 01:28:32,119
I'm like a third party of this whole thing. I'm

1712
01:28:32,199 --> 01:28:36,239
not an employee of WCW. The WCW gets paid for

1713
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,319
the injury and then give some to me. No, I'm

1714
01:28:38,319 --> 01:28:41,000
on the outside of this whole arrangement. They got paid

1715
01:28:41,039 --> 01:28:43,079
for revenue that they can claim they lost because I

1716
01:28:43,119 --> 01:28:45,319
couldn't perform for them, but they didn't share any of

1717
01:28:45,399 --> 01:28:48,560
it with me. He did get something, but he didn't

1718
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,039
get as much as he wanted, or something like that.

1719
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,319
So God damn, I'm just glad that work Greate Midget

1720
01:28:53,399 --> 01:28:55,279
is out there the next time we have an insurance issue.

1721
01:28:55,319 --> 01:28:56,119
Speaker 2: That's all I have to say.

1722
01:28:56,119 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 4: Okay, but I hope for anyone that was confused by

1723
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,920
that part of the CID journey that what I just

1724
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:04,039
read to clarify something, or rather, Jared writes to us.

1725
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,760
This is important because the subject line boss is something

1726
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,640
we don't say as much as we used to, but

1727
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,439
it still rings. And that's for a reason. No longer

1728
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:20,359
a free loading bitch hmm. It is with great humility

1729
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:24,279
and a reckoning of my freeloading ways that I write

1730
01:29:24,359 --> 01:29:27,760
to inform you I have ceased to be a freeloading bitch.

1731
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 2: Gratulations. I have joined the EP tier, finally taking responsibility

1732
01:29:32,079 --> 01:29:35,319
for the immeasurable joy you've brought into my life this year.

1733
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,880
My journey here has been unexpected for years. A close

1734
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,279
friend and Solar System member insisted I listened to your show.

1735
01:29:42,359 --> 01:29:47,000
I resisted staunchly. Yes, you did. I don't like podcasts,

1736
01:29:48,279 --> 01:29:50,239
and I certainly wasn't going to commit to a five

1737
01:29:50,399 --> 01:29:54,319
plus hours of one. But earlier this year I finally caved,

1738
01:29:54,359 --> 01:30:00,199
and life would never be the same, right right. I'm

1739
01:30:00,239 --> 01:30:02,880
not a chronological listener. I pick and choose the shows

1740
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:06,319
that appeal to me. I've journeyed through Scarblade and the Mains,

1741
01:30:06,359 --> 01:30:12,520
and most recently, I finished the painfully satisfying Teenage Journey.

1742
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,039
I truly could not wait for it to end, but

1743
01:30:17,079 --> 01:30:19,319
at the same time I needed it to keep going.

1744
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:23,000
Each of these has left a permanent mark. The true

1745
01:30:23,079 --> 01:30:25,840
depths of the podcast penetration in my life became apparent

1746
01:30:26,119 --> 01:30:29,399
when I took my youngest son, YEP, to his first

1747
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:33,279
WWE event in Buffalo as Bianca Belle air pinned Tiffany Stratton.

1748
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:43,199
I heard him count out loud one two fornoli. He

1749
01:30:43,399 --> 01:30:49,560
did not what he says. That was the moment I

1750
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:52,119
knew this was no longer just a podcast. It was

1751
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:57,920
a way of life. YEP. When Spotify wrapped revealed over

1752
01:30:58,079 --> 01:31:02,520
thirty one thousand minutes of sports podcast this year, could

1753
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,239
no longer bear the shape. I could no longer bear

1754
01:31:05,319 --> 01:31:08,840
the shame of freeloading. I knew those minutes did not

1755
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:12,479
truly belong to that category, but alas Spotify does not

1756
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:16,960
have a separate category for that fake shit, right, it

1757
01:31:17,079 --> 01:31:19,720
was clear as day now the time had come to

1758
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,760
step up, pay my dues and support the unmatched excellence

1759
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,840
you provide. Of course, as we know, this is America,

1760
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,439
so my generosity isn't completely selfless. This is a transactional

1761
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,399
relationship after all. Let's be real, correct, this is mostly

1762
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,880
about me wanting access to be under the cinematic content.

1763
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:39,840
That said, I'm happy to give back in exchange for

1764
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,399
all the amazing work you do. Thank you for the

1765
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,560
end of this laughter inside an absurdity, and thank you

1766
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:51,600
for hule Commania. Proud to now Stand Tall? Wait shit,

1767
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:55,520
what happened here? Why is this doing this? Brother? Okay,

1768
01:31:56,279 --> 01:31:58,680
he's proud to stand Tall, so stand tall. It just

1769
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:02,800
a whole fucking away. Another program is suddenly opened up,

1770
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:06,439
and I couldn't get my fucking rob when I was

1771
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:10,239
reading Proud of sand Tall with my fellow Solar System members.

1772
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:14,600
Love it. Great stuff. That's the story right there. It

1773
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:15,279
is all in there.

1774
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 1: It's the la Fan Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that

1775
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,319
knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan.

1776
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:37,560
Speaker 6: Just because we posted a new episode of The Lapsed

1777
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,600
Fan doesn't mean we are done with the campaign to

1778
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,479
take what is rightfully ours. If you haven't yet, vote

1779
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,760
for The Lapsed Fan to win the award for Wrestling

1780
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,680
Podcast of the Year, click on the show's notes, follow

1781
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,079
the link and do the right thing.

1782
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 1: He's an Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and car

1783
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:08,880
and JPRO.

1784
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 4: I believe it's ca Hall McGonagall. I think that's how

1785
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,159
I pronounce. I remember cahel Pendrid and UFC. I want

1786
01:33:15,199 --> 01:33:17,439
to thank you very much for the increase in your pledge,

1787
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,239
my friend. Great to have you in the solar system.

1788
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,399
Alex Or Ali rather writes Jack and JPM. Sorry, but

1789
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,279
only a goof like Sid would have the last name

1790
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,920
Udi for a shoot, it's all, he wrote.

1791
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:31,399
Speaker 2: No, I take that, baty.

1792
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:33,319
Speaker 4: He also said, Hey, Jack and JP, when discussing Sid,

1793
01:33:33,359 --> 01:33:35,000
you forgot one key thing about his appeal. At least

1794
01:33:35,039 --> 01:33:36,520
a ten year old me, this is a huge point

1795
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,239
that I can't believe I didn't emphasize more than we did.

1796
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:45,880
You see, it's real simple. The body glove, elbow sleeve yep,

1797
01:33:46,039 --> 01:33:49,119
Oh yes, I mean that's fucking critical. Yes it is

1798
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,319
his size, goofy promos that barely made sense and the

1799
01:33:52,359 --> 01:33:53,800
power bomb were all part of the package, but it

1800
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:55,640
was the elbow sleeve that put him over the top.

1801
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,800
With ten year old me and my elementary school aged friends, yeah,

1802
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:00,760
because the body Glove was like a the the Bodyglove

1803
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,239
brand was like a thing when we were kids.

1804
01:34:03,119 --> 01:34:07,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I I I you know that that that

1805
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:11,039
that yellow logo I used to always think was some

1806
01:34:11,279 --> 01:34:13,840
kind of I don't know what it was. I think

1807
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:19,439
it was like represented sid somehow. Well it was like, yeah,

1808
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,239
in a weird way, it did, Yeah, in a weird

1809
01:34:21,279 --> 01:34:22,640
way it did. But I didn't know it was a logo.

1810
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:24,880
I thought it was some kind of weird like it

1811
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:27,680
almost look like a nipple at times, like a weird

1812
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:29,439
yellow nipple. And I thought it was some kind of

1813
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,399
I don't know device with that with that armband. But

1814
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,119
for some reasons, quintessential, I always knew what it was.

1815
01:34:35,159 --> 01:34:37,239
Speaker 4: I must have been because kids were in bodyglove stuff.

1816
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:39,520
But that would happen today, like you can't, you're not

1817
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:41,199
really supposed to. I guess think I were a Nike

1818
01:34:41,279 --> 01:34:43,880
sneaker sometimes, but you're not really supposed to wear like

1819
01:34:45,079 --> 01:34:47,960
you know, brands on television that haven't you know, agreed

1820
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:49,800
to sponsor you and to be associated with you.

1821
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:51,399
Speaker 2: But right there he is.

1822
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 4: Let that hit you like a shot. Alley writes, PSJP,

1823
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,560
do us all favor and please read the following as Sid,

1824
01:34:57,640 --> 01:34:59,520
I'm going to send you a very very short list

1825
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,479
here of things he wants you to say as Sid.

1826
01:35:03,239 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 2: Oh God, here we go. Let the monkey dance ball, water.

1827
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:21,600
Speaker 8: Shawmachaels Viennis, autographed picture, wrestler, movie.

1828
01:35:21,359 --> 01:35:27,119
Speaker 4: Star, lovely, the Bushwhackers Win. Thank you very much for

1829
01:35:27,199 --> 01:35:28,199
your Patreon pledge.

1830
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 2: Great name the Bushwackers Win.

1831
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:36,520
Speaker 4: Jared, who I think we just heard from in the letter,

1832
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:40,119
Thank you very much for that pledge. Steve writes about

1833
01:35:40,119 --> 01:35:42,840
Sid's leg break, can confirm how serious Sid's break is.

1834
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,199
My mom had the equivalent in her foot, where everything

1835
01:35:45,279 --> 01:35:48,159
but one bone broke just before COVID shit. All these

1836
01:35:48,239 --> 01:35:50,000
years later, it still causes her pain even with a

1837
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,439
successful surgery. Thanks for this much needed episode. Tomorrow I

1838
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:55,520
bury my one hundred and three year old grandmother, and

1839
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:59,720
listening to this has made tomorrow feel more manageable. Well,

1840
01:36:00,119 --> 01:36:02,680
be about that ice indeed glad to be of service

1841
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:05,159
as always. Adam writes, I think what stands out of

1842
01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:07,479
most TLF most is how organic and fluid it is.

1843
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:09,800
A two or three episode SID tribute turns into a

1844
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,359
near ten episode mini journey. Then someone else might die

1845
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,600
like OI and the cast gives him a few words.

1846
01:36:16,199 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 2: It's so true.

1847
01:36:17,159 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 4: What makes the TLF stand out is that it's consistently awesome,

1848
01:36:20,079 --> 01:36:21,600
always funny, and no one knows where it's going to

1849
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:23,079
go next. Here's to another ten years.

1850
01:36:23,119 --> 01:36:27,119
Speaker 2: Boys. It's always about the timing. Honestly, of course it is.

1851
01:36:27,319 --> 01:36:29,560
It's always about the timing. If someone dies, we're in

1852
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:31,920
the middle of something. They just no matter how important,

1853
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,079
Unless they're unless they're of something, you know, of real,

1854
01:36:35,199 --> 01:36:37,560
real importance, you know we're not on time for that show.

1855
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,399
Speaker 4: Look on, if Hulk Hogan died during the Lamentable tragedy,

1856
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:41,800
we would have known what to do.

1857
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 2: I know that would have been hard. I mean that

1858
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:48,399
would have been very, very hard. Paul writes.

1859
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:51,359
Speaker 4: He had time code to one of the SID episodes

1860
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:54,359
where he quotes me saying favorite nations right and laps

1861
01:36:54,399 --> 01:37:04,039
Hogan goes what the point about insurance? A minute ago?

1862
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Andrew bakes a great point. Aren't all wrestler contracts workers compensation?

1863
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:20,600
Speaker 2: Yes? The following is a workers compensation agreement wrestlers to receive.

1864
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,239
Oh my good, let's hear from Jake from Wisconsin. Hit

1865
01:37:23,319 --> 01:37:32,760
it all right, here we go, dear co chairs. I'm

1866
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:37,119
reliving the thirty week journey, which I do every I

1867
01:37:37,199 --> 01:37:40,199
guess year, along with the Stark Tour and hearing a

1868
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:43,119
fellow Sol's a member saying that WrestleMania eight was his

1869
01:37:43,279 --> 01:37:46,079
go to show. That made me think of what what

1870
01:37:46,319 --> 01:37:49,479
my go to think of what my go to shows are?

1871
01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:52,760
Mine have to be WrestleMania three because growing up I'd

1872
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:55,520
always see the stair down between Hogan and Andre And

1873
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,760
when I finally got the DVD when I was twelve

1874
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:02,520
or thirteen years old, that hurts me. The fact here

1875
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,439
I am thinking that, you know, he's like, you know,

1876
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:09,640
grew up watching that show. But no, he's thirteen. If

1877
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:11,880
you're thirteen years old when DVDs are fucking coming out,

1878
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,399
you're I'm gonna kill you. He was born I said,

1879
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:17,159
right there, I was born ninety four. Fuck you, I'm kidding.

1880
01:38:18,319 --> 01:38:19,319
Maybe maybe I'm not.

1881
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 4: How dare you might be ten or twelve years older

1882
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:23,880
than the younger than I am.

1883
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 2: I know, I know, thirteen there, you'd be thirteen years

1884
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:30,880
old younger than I am. What And I still got

1885
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,399
goosebumps even well, I appreciate this, and I still got

1886
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:35,800
goosebumps even watching it all those years later and still

1887
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:39,199
gives me goosebumps. And my second go to show is

1888
01:38:39,279 --> 01:38:42,840
jarr K eighty three, which I watch every Thanksgiving. I

1889
01:38:43,159 --> 01:38:46,399
just love the dirty gritty look and I love the

1890
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:48,720
cage match and dog collar match. Well, all right, you

1891
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:49,920
won me back with all this stuff.

1892
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 4: I'll tell you when I watch star K eighty three,

1893
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:53,600
I can smell turkey cooking.

1894
01:38:54,359 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I can smell. I mean right, I would

1895
01:38:58,399 --> 01:39:01,239
to me, I look at that at that building, and

1896
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:05,239
I it to me, it must reek of the smell

1897
01:39:05,359 --> 01:39:06,319
of stuffing, right.

1898
01:39:06,239 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 4: Because everyone's got it on their clothes, because right, the

1899
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:11,399
kitchen was full of aromatic sense before you run out

1900
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:12,239
to the matches.

1901
01:39:12,159 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 2: Exactly, and you've got like turkey grease on your fingers

1902
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:16,039
and stuff.

1903
01:39:16,119 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 4: It can't help it, totally, absolutely, such an under discussed

1904
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,800
part of star K eighty three and future star Gredes

1905
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:26,720
for that matter, agreed just the sloppiness of the eaters,

1906
01:39:29,159 --> 01:39:31,800
the sense baked into the fibers of their sweater exactly.

1907
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 2: And finally, my absolute go to show is not a

1908
01:39:38,039 --> 01:39:41,279
fan favorite, and I really don't give a fuck, but

1909
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:43,880
it's my It's my show because it's the show I

1910
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:47,439
remember first seeing ever, and that's Star k ninety seven,

1911
01:39:48,199 --> 01:39:50,760
even though I was only three years old. I can

1912
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,399
remember watching that show live on pay per view. Seeing

1913
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:56,640
Hogan versus Sting is what made me a lifelong fan

1914
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,039
of the sport of kings and I will always watch

1915
01:39:59,119 --> 01:40:02,159
that show at least one year, sometimes twice. I love

1916
01:40:02,199 --> 01:40:04,920
Austin Rock and Undertaker, but it was Hogan and Sting

1917
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:10,000
will always be my all time favorites because they are

1918
01:40:10,039 --> 01:40:12,560
the two that made me fall in love with pro wrestling.

1919
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,800
Have a Merry Christmas. Love that, Yeah, I dig that.

1920
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,239
I totally dig that. That show has Mormon fuzzies for

1921
01:40:18,359 --> 01:40:20,880
me too, for sure. I mean, you know, that's the

1922
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:25,239
thing you got to remember. I mean, favorite wrestlers are

1923
01:40:25,279 --> 01:40:29,000
always about what you saw, you know, what was right

1924
01:40:29,079 --> 01:40:32,159
there in front of you when you you know, whenever

1925
01:40:32,199 --> 01:40:34,920
you saw wrestling for the first time, it's like it's

1926
01:40:35,039 --> 01:40:39,359
so crucial, it's one of those beautiful things about it,

1927
01:40:40,079 --> 01:40:45,039
and that's about the whole mess of fucking business. Yep.

1928
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, And just see, it's so fun when you become

1929
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:51,319
an adult and get access to resources to be able

1930
01:40:51,359 --> 01:40:54,960
to actually spend time figuring out why was that so impactful?

1931
01:40:55,039 --> 01:40:57,840
Because it's not like everything I saw when I was

1932
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:00,640
a kid I remember fondly, So why was it that

1933
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,640
this match is the one I remember? And that's what's

1934
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:06,359
worth discussing as opposed to the broadstroke. You were a kid,

1935
01:41:06,399 --> 01:41:07,560
and that's why you loved it. Now, there's a lot

1936
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:09,520
of stuff I didn't like when I was a kid, yep.

1937
01:41:10,039 --> 01:41:12,079
And so what did rise to the level rose to

1938
01:41:12,119 --> 01:41:13,640
the level for a reason, and it rose to that

1939
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:16,800
level for a lot of other people too. Scott Matthews,

1940
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:18,920
thank you very much for the pledge. We appreciate the cake. Tom,

1941
01:41:19,119 --> 01:41:22,079
the homie, the number one Solar System member, writes TLF.

1942
01:41:23,119 --> 01:41:26,199
He quotes something I said on the SID Tribute Volume nine.

1943
01:41:26,239 --> 01:41:29,039
The quote is if only they knew the realities we

1944
01:41:29,199 --> 01:41:33,039
uncover and the conclusions we are left to reach. Yes,

1945
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:35,680
he says, I don't suggest as lightly, but this, my friends,

1946
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,720
should be a T shirt. Tom will take it under advisement. Yep,

1947
01:41:41,359 --> 01:41:43,720
Scott pointed out when we were going through the Fulton

1948
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:46,800
County court records on the sid injury stuff. Lol, we

1949
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:54,680
haven't tried the well meaning judge and Scott can confirm this.

1950
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,000
You know why because he happened to have listened to

1951
01:41:57,119 --> 01:42:01,680
the UTC on Santa Claus, the movie which feature Daphne Daphne. Yes,

1952
01:42:02,039 --> 01:42:03,800
where the judge a courting I don't remember this, but

1953
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:06,119
I laughed out loud and he read it back where

1954
01:42:06,199 --> 01:42:09,119
the judge called the plaintiff Daphne guilty and I'm pretty

1955
01:42:09,119 --> 01:42:17,319
sure he called her a fuck Yeah, so definitely not

1956
01:42:17,399 --> 01:42:18,479
a well meaning judge there.

1957
01:42:21,119 --> 01:42:24,039
Speaker 2: I don't know what fucking would I remember going to

1958
01:42:24,119 --> 01:42:26,680
court with Daphne, but yeah.

1959
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,199
Speaker 4: It's probably when she she sued over the concussion she

1960
01:42:29,239 --> 01:42:33,760
got in TNA. Oh maybe William Wright. Hogan's lawyer ringtone

1961
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:36,720
is a MIDI version of real American the vibrations of

1962
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:38,960
which are so intense that they shake the pull chain

1963
01:42:39,079 --> 01:42:42,159
off the bedside lamp. Yes, I agree with that phone

1964
01:42:42,239 --> 01:42:46,319
is almost spinning from vibrating so much when Hogan calls.

1965
01:42:47,279 --> 01:42:50,159
I just thought there was a funny image. One of

1966
01:42:50,159 --> 01:42:51,840
the things we do in these feedback episodes. If you're

1967
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,720
not familiar, is pass along word pictures painted by the

1968
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,880
Solar System as well. Doesn't have to just be a letter,

1969
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:02,199
Jeff Wright. Let's do a tribute in the style of

1970
01:43:02,279 --> 01:43:06,159
Sid to Savage Dusty or Piper you son of a bitch.

1971
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:11,439
That'd be something, be something, because you know, Piper died

1972
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:14,000
and Dusty died before we were equipped to really go

1973
01:43:14,279 --> 01:43:14,840
like this, you know.

1974
01:43:15,039 --> 01:43:17,079
Speaker 2: I mean we did, we did do tributes for them,

1975
01:43:17,119 --> 01:43:20,760
but not we did not they were single shows. They weren't.

1976
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 4: We didn't have the hubris to think that our fans

1977
01:43:23,039 --> 01:43:26,199
would support us going right year by this before we did,

1978
01:43:26,399 --> 01:43:28,880
like the medical tragedy, year by year, before we realized

1979
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:31,680
that we could get away with really taking our time.

1980
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:34,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean listen, you know, like when they died,

1981
01:43:34,359 --> 01:43:37,399
I mean they both I think they both died. The

1982
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,399
only thing we had done of that nature was, uh,

1983
01:43:42,039 --> 01:43:45,600
was the Main's Journey. It's just there's year two.

1984
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:48,239
Speaker 4: It's such a mischievous suggestion because over the years I've

1985
01:43:48,279 --> 01:43:51,239
always thought of that. It's just there's no hours, there's

1986
01:43:51,319 --> 01:43:52,560
no hours in the day.

1987
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:54,199
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

1988
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:58,239
Speaker 4: Like everything feels like something we should do above and

1989
01:43:58,359 --> 01:44:01,239
beyond what we did what we the main show, you know,

1990
01:44:02,279 --> 01:44:06,119
So it's it's hard, but I hear you, I hear you.

1991
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:11,359
That's all I can say. Because God help anybody else

1992
01:44:11,399 --> 01:44:14,760
out there who thinks they're in the telling a wrestler

1993
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:19,640
story space. If we decide to go hard and anybody

1994
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,239
and everybody is supposed to just who happens to pass

1995
01:44:22,239 --> 01:44:24,479
away at a convenient time for us to set aside

1996
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:26,960
the agenda? You know, like if Terry Funk died at

1997
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,239
another time, we wouldn't have done that, but he died

1998
01:44:29,319 --> 01:44:33,079
at that time when you were doing the play, and

1999
01:44:33,319 --> 01:44:34,840
we kind of didn't. We had kind of a wide

2000
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:37,760
open schedule with nothing that was so concrete that people

2001
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:39,079
would really miss it if we moved it.

2002
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 2: And it was it was, you know, and for me

2003
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:47,359
it was great to not have to really watch shows

2004
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,199
because I didn't have the time rehearsing the play. That's yeah.

2005
01:44:50,199 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 4: And that's what emboldened me too, to be like, you

2006
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:54,000
know what, let's actually do a watch a long style

2007
01:44:54,079 --> 01:44:57,039
for the first time. Let's like let's come in cold

2008
01:44:57,079 --> 01:44:59,439
and let's watch it like we watch cinemat movies or

2009
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,399
like we ww pay per views on Patreon now, yep.

2010
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:05,720
And because of that, we just could watch Terry Funk's

2011
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:08,279
whole career. Yeah, we didn't have to just decide, oh,

2012
01:45:08,319 --> 01:45:11,399
we'll watch this match and we'll talk about these ten matches. No, well,

2013
01:45:12,039 --> 01:45:14,560
we'll pretty much watch every match in promo of consequence

2014
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:17,520
that he ever did and the most remarkable career any

2015
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:22,680
wrestler has ever had, with the most diversity cross styles, geographies.

2016
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 2: Oh, it's just ridiculous what he was.

2017
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:28,279
Speaker 4: However, I think back on him, I'm like, wow, that

2018
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,079
was like ten careers that we talked about basically.

2019
01:45:31,279 --> 01:45:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean no, seriously, it really was.

2020
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 4: The whole history of pro wrestling is there, from the

2021
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,600
NWA Champion era and the territories to to you know,

2022
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,399
what became of the business when he was still barely

2023
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:44,680
able to move but crack and Jerry Lawler over the head,

2024
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:46,520
you know, with three hundred people there, whether with a

2025
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,560
trash can or whatever the case is. Vipin writes, the

2026
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:51,880
game we play as simple. Two co chairs speak, one

2027
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:58,960
man listens like that, not too like that, Willie Thompson,

2028
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,079
thanks for the pledge, my friend, Cyrus the Virus always

2029
01:46:01,119 --> 01:46:03,079
a strong supporter. Great to hear from him and thanks

2030
01:46:03,119 --> 01:46:08,960
for the cake. Yancey writes subject line, yes, shut up,

2031
01:46:11,119 --> 01:46:12,159
I'll take it away please.

2032
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:18,239
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I love a good shot up that

2033
01:46:18,399 --> 01:46:26,239
makes me happy. Here we go, okay, co chairs, Happy holidays.

2034
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,319
After you had another six hour drive back and forth

2035
01:46:29,359 --> 01:46:32,399
to visit my parents for Thanksgiving, a ride consisting of

2036
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:35,159
you guys in my ear and Vienna's in my dreams.

2037
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:39,439
I knew what I had to do yet again. I

2038
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:42,640
quit being a freeloading bitch years ago, and I'm a

2039
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:46,039
faithful listener. But sometimes between the journeys, the live calls

2040
01:46:46,079 --> 01:46:49,199
and the regular episodes, my little stink hole can only

2041
01:46:49,319 --> 01:46:52,880
take so much, and I fall episodes, weeks and journeys behind.

2042
01:46:53,279 --> 01:47:00,319
But I persevere. I have resolve. It will be zoomed.

2043
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,760
But the long and meaty hours of content is partly

2044
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:06,960
why I have never made the jump to a higher level.

2045
01:47:07,319 --> 01:47:10,119
I can barely take all of your girthy giving as

2046
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,520
is do I dare have the courage to open up

2047
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:18,079
a little more. But as I recently sat on my

2048
01:47:18,199 --> 01:47:27,600
lunch break listening to the monchamen, go ahead, you can

2049
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:32,000
do it. Listening to the monchumen trying his damnness to

2050
01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:35,399
get it hard, for a ride of fuck, for a

2051
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:40,720
night of fucking yes, and Sid telling Vince and any

2052
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:46,439
and everyone to shut up, and my personal favorite, a

2053
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:48,640
line that has stuck with me since the night my

2054
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,800
brother and I saw it so many years ago, Live

2055
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:59,680
I don't know shit crown Baby the Best, the Best,

2056
01:48:06,239 --> 01:48:10,119
which I found equally cutting to Brett and hilarious for

2057
01:48:10,199 --> 01:48:15,119
obvious reasons. I felt that tug, that little tinge of

2058
01:48:15,199 --> 01:48:19,520
guilt yep, yep. And I'm not nearly giving back I'm giving.

2059
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:23,159
I'm not that I'm not given nearly back to even

2060
01:48:23,199 --> 01:48:25,399
come close to match what you have given to the

2061
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:31,000
solar system and to me. And then JP starts talking

2062
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:32,920
about those who have pledged, always a favorite part of

2063
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:36,520
the episodes for me, and why people pledge, and asks

2064
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:38,640
us to think about the hours and hours and hours

2065
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,479
and hours and hours that go into making this wonderful

2066
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:43,600
piece of art. And I knew I needed to jump

2067
01:48:44,079 --> 01:48:46,920
to a higher level. So I have not because I

2068
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:51,800
can handle it, not because I necessarily even want more content,

2069
01:48:52,319 --> 01:48:54,840
not because I'm dying to dive into movies, but because

2070
01:48:55,159 --> 01:49:00,760
I need to. I need the lapsed, and I need

2071
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:05,039
it bad I need that voice in my ear, that

2072
01:49:05,239 --> 01:49:09,239
voice that makes me laugh, think, reflect, the voice of reason,

2073
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:15,760
a steady hand in a not so steady world. So

2074
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:19,800
take my measly offerings and forgive me for not making

2075
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:24,760
the jump Center. It feels so good to give, so good.

2076
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:26,960
In fact, as someone who grew up in the deep

2077
01:49:27,119 --> 01:49:29,399
Deep South, I can't tell you how many cans of

2078
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:37,279
delicious and vicious piannas sat on the shelves of my

2079
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:41,239
pantry growing up and ended up as a snack fishing

2080
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:46,680
hunting game with my dad playing church softball, shout out

2081
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:49,800
to City's team, and other similar times. Now that I'm

2082
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:53,439
living in Tennessee, just a few hours from everyone's favorite

2083
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:58,640
church and homeless mission, maybe I'll take a trip over

2084
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:00,920
to West Memphis and do the right thing for those

2085
01:50:01,399 --> 01:50:04,840
in need this holiday season. And maybe they'll do the

2086
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:09,680
right thing and send me an Aurgraft picture. Thanks for

2087
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:11,800
the hours you put into this, Thanks for allowing me

2088
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:15,119
to do the right thing, and the support the real deal.

2089
01:50:15,199 --> 01:50:19,319
If you're listening and you don't, you'll be glad you

2090
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:21,199
did do.

2091
01:50:21,319 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 4: The right thing, he writes as he bumps his pledge

2092
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,079
up to the twenty dollars executive producer tier Line.

2093
01:50:26,159 --> 01:50:29,600
Speaker 2: Damn fucking right, he does. Come on, folks, does more

2094
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need to be said?

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Speaker 8: No?

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01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 2: Will Moore be said? Yes?

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01:50:32,159 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 4: Yes, Rick S, thank you very much for your pledge.

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01:50:35,039 --> 01:50:38,000
Welcome in the big Homie, Austin King Sliver writes. During

2099
01:50:38,039 --> 01:50:40,680
the pandemic and for a year or so after, Alamo

2100
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:44,399
Draft House did convert many of their theaters into makeshift

2101
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:46,520
drive ins. We were talking about well, yeah, we're talking

2102
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:50,600
about this. Yeah, by having moving projectors out on outside

2103
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:53,159
and using the big outer walls of the building as screens,

2104
01:50:53,239 --> 01:50:55,159
the one in my areas seem to do very well. Yes,

2105
01:50:57,039 --> 01:50:59,399
just bring them back. I'll put them on walls. I

2106
01:50:59,399 --> 01:51:02,039
don't give a fuck. Yeah, I mean I see projections

2107
01:51:02,079 --> 01:51:06,600
now on buildings that are like four K. They have

2108
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:09,720
like this technology nowaday just have like images dancing on

2109
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:10,840
fucking stone walls.

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01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:51:12,199 --> 01:51:14,359
Speaker 4: So don't get me an excuse about infrastructure that you

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01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:17,239
can put it on anything. Just put a big fuck it.

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01:51:17,319 --> 01:51:20,399
I don't care a big edifice. Just bring back drive

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01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:24,279
ins as soon as possible, and bring them back for

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01:51:25,199 --> 01:51:29,520
closed circuit events, not just movies. Bring them back for this,

2116
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:32,239
you know, go see the super Bowl in a huge

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01:51:32,279 --> 01:51:35,800
ass parking lot somewhere with the biggest screen in the county,

2118
01:51:36,239 --> 01:51:39,840
in the state, and let people grill, and let people rejoice,

2119
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:42,760
and let people recreate, and let people try to recreate

2120
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:47,079
the experience of experiencing something live. Right, That's what I'm

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01:51:47,159 --> 01:51:51,399
calling for, the return of closed circuit Are we ready?

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01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,159
Can we handle it? As a people?

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01:51:56,239 --> 01:52:00,319
Speaker 2: I think it's a great idea. Put it outdoors. Mm hm,

2124
01:52:01,039 --> 01:52:02,600
you know, in warmer class and you know what, here's

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01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:05,479
the thing. I mean, you know, well maybe maybe not,

2126
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,119
I don't know. But if you if you limit it

2127
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:11,359
to that, depending on the on on what it is,

2128
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:11,960
people will go.

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01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 4: I think if you if you set up a if

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01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:17,640
you set up a way to do it that's modular,

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01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:22,680
that isn't a permanent, fixed screen somewhere that can't be uninstalled.

2132
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:26,479
It's a fucking home run because you only set up

2133
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,039
when there's an event and good enough climate to do it,

2134
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:31,600
and sometimes rain will fuck you up, you know. Doing

2135
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:34,840
the winter, I guess and really cold climates, maybe you

2136
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:36,399
could pull it off. Maybe people would be willing to,

2137
01:52:37,319 --> 01:52:39,840
you know, bundle up. They certainly do it for tailgates

2138
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:43,479
during NFL season, right, But I'm talking big events, big

2139
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:49,479
boxing matches, concerts, you know, on a big screen, since

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01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:51,239
money waiting to be made, and you just do it

2141
01:52:51,319 --> 01:52:53,439
out in the middle of some field that no one's using,

2142
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:57,359
and you have you know, some kind of a just

2143
01:52:57,439 --> 01:52:59,880
like you would erect the screen at raw they put

2144
01:52:59,880 --> 01:53:02,039
the thing on the coat. Just go around the country

2145
01:53:02,079 --> 01:53:05,399
and do it. Maybe fucking awesome, and you could franchise it,

2146
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:08,960
you know, like everyone can. It's not like a permanent thing,

2147
01:53:09,039 --> 01:53:10,560
but every now and then when there's a hot event,

2148
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:12,239
you can make a good amount of money by being

2149
01:53:12,279 --> 01:53:14,199
the guy in your metro area that knows how to

2150
01:53:14,239 --> 01:53:17,039
set it up and you know, pays for the license

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01:53:17,159 --> 01:53:19,079
to show it and pays for the license to be

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01:53:19,119 --> 01:53:22,039
associated with, maybe like a national brand that's known for

2153
01:53:22,119 --> 01:53:23,880
doing these things in a big way. I mean, you

2154
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:26,800
see the movie theaters try to do it to add revenue,

2155
01:53:27,039 --> 01:53:28,399
you know. And I think it's cool to go see

2156
01:53:28,399 --> 01:53:30,439
a concert in a movie theater or I've seen wrestling

2157
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:31,920
in m a pay per views in movie theaters and

2158
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:35,239
I think it's awesome. Yeah, but I think it's it's

2159
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:37,000
it's on a higher level if you can make it

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01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,520
an outdoor party. Do you know what I mean yes,

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01:53:40,119 --> 01:53:42,199
and everyone's got their phones so they can all bluetooth

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01:53:42,239 --> 01:53:45,239
the audio. It's not like even even the audio infrastructure,

2163
01:53:45,279 --> 01:53:46,640
which I know is a huge part of the drive

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01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,520
in movie theater experience, you know, broadcasting it over the radio,

2165
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:51,680
you gott to be sitting in your car. Sometimes they

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01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:53,840
get the speakers you know, actually installed into the ground

2167
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:55,880
and that's all pretty cool. But you don't even need

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that anymore.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: Everyone can just have one bluetooth in if they want

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01:53:59,119 --> 01:54:01,920
to hear the audio, which is great because it kind

2172
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:03,800
of sucks sometimes to go to a setting like that,

2173
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:05,199
like to watch a game in a bar, and if

2174
01:54:05,199 --> 01:54:07,119
you want to hear the commentary, you can't hear it,

2175
01:54:07,279 --> 01:54:10,760
you know, but fun, I mean, what are we waiting for?

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01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 4: Tim Lee, thank you very much for the increase in pledge.

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01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,399
Deeply appreciated. Pete, thank you very much.

2179
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 2: We love it. Nico always longtime support, and he's bumping

2180
01:54:19,039 --> 01:54:19,560
it up even more.

2181
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:22,159
Speaker 4: It's incredible. David Quinn, thank you for your support. Marty

2182
01:54:22,319 --> 01:54:25,199
f thank you very much for that robust pledge to

2183
01:54:25,279 --> 01:54:27,920
your co chairs. Daniel writes in the two KWW Games,

2184
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:30,680
when new entrants join the Wargames match, they actually pull

2185
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:33,560
out weapons from under the ring and bring them heart

2186
01:54:34,119 --> 01:54:37,319
of the built in entrance. You can believe that's a

2187
01:54:37,319 --> 01:54:40,039
comment on one of our War Games Survivors Series twenty

2188
01:54:40,159 --> 01:54:45,079
twenty twenty four live calls on Patreona. They just do

2189
01:54:45,199 --> 01:54:46,880
it like it's part of the rules of war games

2190
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:48,039
that you have to bring weapons with you.

2191
01:54:52,359 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 2: Just awful. And you know it used to be like.

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01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 4: Fortuitous, even though unfortunate. Once someone would come out of

2193
01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:03,039
the war Games with an injury because the match was

2194
01:55:03,079 --> 01:55:05,119
pretty you know, dangerous, and you hit each other pretty hard,

2195
01:55:05,159 --> 01:55:08,840
and you know, Hawk got carried away and JJ Dillon

2196
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:10,800
broke his shoulder on the doomsday device in the first

2197
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:12,640
war Games and that's part of the legend of the match.

2198
01:55:13,479 --> 01:55:15,079
But now we're in an era where all the war

2199
01:55:15,159 --> 01:55:18,399
Games injuries are ones that people inflict on themselves because

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01:55:18,439 --> 01:55:20,279
they can't stop jumping off the top of the cage.

2201
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:24,680
Both Jimmy Usso and Bronson Reid busted their ankles diving

2202
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,640
off the cage through tables and wargames, the injuries are

2203
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:31,039
happening to the people who are jumping themselves, who are

2204
01:55:31,079 --> 01:55:34,359
doing it to themselves. They're not even booking war games

2205
01:55:34,399 --> 01:55:36,640
to have guys come out of war games worse for wear.

2206
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:40,000
No one's selling that they can't move for weeks because

2207
01:55:40,159 --> 01:55:42,960
people are actually getting hurt for things they voluntarily did

2208
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:46,479
in spots that do not belong in the war games

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01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:49,439
that you can do every other month, joke, every other

2210
01:55:49,479 --> 01:55:50,039
show of the year.

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01:55:50,079 --> 01:55:57,479
Speaker 2: You can do that shit wargames. I don't whatever. Edward Zeman,

2212
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:58,600
thank you for the increasing.

2213
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:01,600
Speaker 4: Said a million times. It's it's a disaster this year.

2214
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:03,560
When you see those injuries, it's like, this is what

2215
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:06,119
I'm trying to say. It is fucking stupid. This is

2216
01:56:06,159 --> 01:56:07,920
the one match where you don't have to do that

2217
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:11,000
to yourself, but you already ruined it because now the crowd,

2218
01:56:11,319 --> 01:56:13,359
the WW crowd thinks of war games is tables and

2219
01:56:13,479 --> 01:56:14,880
chairs and shit and garbage cans.

2220
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, stop doing it. They could,

2221
01:56:17,279 --> 01:56:19,600
but that's my point. It's like down in them condition

2222
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:22,279
the fans had a chance to.

2223
01:56:22,239 --> 01:56:25,039
Speaker 4: Start, had a chance to start in the right way,

2224
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:29,960
and they set themselves back. Dylan Mack and Tyre thanks

2225
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,640
for the pledge. Haull Cogan writes, to be fair Billy

2226
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:34,399
and Flair, I still to have some trouble accept in

2227
01:56:34,439 --> 01:56:37,680
the family name being pronounced broccoli as in the fucking vegetable. Yes,

2228
01:56:38,479 --> 01:56:39,159
that still gives me.

2229
01:56:39,199 --> 01:56:43,239
Speaker 2: Positive As Billie Eilish was saying.

2230
01:56:46,199 --> 01:56:49,680
Speaker 4: Oh man, he was a close observer, was Hull Cogin

2231
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:53,079
on Patreon. The Carnies were for our forever journey and

2232
01:56:53,119 --> 01:56:54,960
when we hit the final episode, no time to die,

2233
01:56:55,359 --> 01:56:57,199
He writes, I remember watching this for the first time

2234
01:56:57,239 --> 01:56:59,159
and being surprised how emotional I was at the end.

2235
01:56:59,319 --> 01:57:01,359
It's probably because on like other Bond movies, I knew

2236
01:57:01,359 --> 01:57:03,439
I was saying goodbye. I'm feeling the same way as

2237
01:57:03,479 --> 01:57:06,039
I start this final Bond episode of Under the Cinemat

2238
01:57:06,079 --> 01:57:07,920
I would say, I'm feeling like a pussy. But it's

2239
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:11,600
a great man once set boss. What's wrong with a

2240
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:12,239
little pussy?

2241
01:57:15,199 --> 01:57:16,680
Speaker 2: What's wrong with pussy?

2242
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:33,840
Speaker 1: It's the Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows

2243
01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:37,039
the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan.

2244
01:57:37,359 --> 01:57:39,279
Speaker 6: Just because we posted a new episode of The Lapsed

2245
01:57:39,319 --> 01:57:41,319
Fan doesn't mean we are done with the campaign to

2246
01:57:41,359 --> 01:57:44,199
take what is rightfully ours. If you haven't yet, vote

2247
01:57:44,239 --> 01:57:46,479
for The Lapsed Fan to win the award for Wrestling

2248
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:49,399
Podcast of the Year. Click on this show's notes, follow

2249
01:57:49,439 --> 01:57:50,800
the link and do the right thing.

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01:58:05,279 --> 01:58:09,199
Speaker 1: He's an lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnaco

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01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:11,039
and JP Sorrow.

2252
01:58:14,079 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 2: Hi co Chairs.

2253
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 4: This is Chris by the way high CoA Chairs. This

2254
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:20,159
is directed more to JP. Not sure if this one

2255
01:58:20,199 --> 01:58:22,039
has come up yet or it's on the horizon already,

2256
01:58:22,119 --> 01:58:24,159
but if you didn't know, now, I'm not going to

2257
01:58:24,239 --> 01:58:28,319
call somebody that the legendary Hull Coogan replacement Tom McGee

2258
01:58:28,479 --> 01:58:30,600
has a part in the movie Stone Cold.

2259
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 2: Fuck the fuck? Do you know the movie Stone Cold? No,

2260
01:58:37,399 --> 01:58:39,600
I don't want to look it up. I'm gonna look

2261
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:43,000
it up right now because it's Tom McGee. Fascinated. Remember

2262
01:58:43,039 --> 01:58:43,319
we were.

2263
01:58:43,279 --> 01:58:45,920
Speaker 4: Walking behind Tom McGee in Las Vegas and he was

2264
01:58:46,319 --> 01:58:51,159
vaguely he was rollerblading, and he was as thin as

2265
01:58:51,199 --> 01:58:51,840
a toothpick.

2266
01:58:52,479 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 2: Right, he's like Batista.

2267
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:55,279
Speaker 4: But they found him because that was the year that

2268
01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:58,560
wwe like unearthed the match with Brett and put it

2269
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:01,800
in at the Unearthed that bullshit. They bought it because

2270
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:04,359
fucking Conrad and company found it and we're going to

2271
01:59:04,399 --> 01:59:06,920
show it at the star Cast and have bretton Tom

2272
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:08,159
McGee do a panel discussion.

2273
01:59:10,279 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 2: It's with Brian Bosworth, Lance Henrickson, Lance Henrickson, and William Forsyth.

2274
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:20,640
A tough Alabama cup is blackmailed by the FBI into

2275
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:25,439
going undercover in a violent Mississippi biker gang. Yeah, well

2276
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:26,359
this is gonna be good.

2277
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 4: Tom McGee say, I'm strategic about when I violate that

2278
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:33,760
GtC rule. He writes, hadn't watched this movie since I

2279
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:35,840
was a teenager and randomly circled back to it today

2280
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:37,680
upon which I saw a former bearer of the torch

2281
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:39,800
that never was, So I had to immediately had to

2282
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:42,600
share this with you the infinite overseas of the Solar system.

2283
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:44,960
Hopefully this is news and we'll inspire a future episode

2284
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:45,720
of Under the Cinema.

2285
01:59:46,119 --> 01:59:48,359
Speaker 2: And if not, there's a character named Mountain, does Tom

2286
01:59:48,439 --> 01:59:49,000
McGee and.

2287
01:59:49,039 --> 01:59:51,359
Speaker 4: That's the kind of guy man. Well, we'll never have

2288
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:53,199
a real good reason to dive into him because he's

2289
01:59:53,239 --> 01:59:56,279
not in any shows. He did Japan shows that will

2290
01:59:56,319 --> 01:59:56,840
never cover.

2291
01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:03,479
Speaker 2: He's done. He did eight movies little TV shows as well,

2292
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:10,199
did The Alligator, to the Mutation, Dragon.

2293
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:11,760
Speaker 4: Fight, Alligator to the New Batch.

2294
02:00:12,279 --> 02:00:17,039
Speaker 2: There it is Street Night. Oh god head for this

2295
02:00:17,439 --> 02:00:19,399
to this movie Street Night. I don't have any idea

2296
02:00:19,399 --> 02:00:22,159
what the fuck this movie is? But he plays a

2297
02:00:22,279 --> 02:00:28,880
character named Baby Huey me we can go, We go

2298
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:32,640
over days about Baby Hughey. That was that was once.

2299
02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:43,279
That was what's your nickname? Oh Ship, It's gonna go well,

2300
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:50,600
oh Man, Tom McGhee.

2301
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:56,399
Speaker 4: Dan coming with an important one here because I didn't

2302
02:00:56,439 --> 02:00:59,239
realize this was out there. Unfortunately for the Sid journey,

2303
02:01:00,039 --> 02:01:03,800
there isn't too much to it. But Dan remembered that

2304
02:01:04,399 --> 02:01:08,359
when WW did a special countdown episode Biggest Blunders. Countdown

2305
02:01:08,479 --> 02:01:10,359
is like a recurring series they came up with for

2306
02:01:10,439 --> 02:01:13,279
the network. The number ten entry once was about Sid

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02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:16,279
having to say I have half the brain you do

2308
02:01:17,319 --> 02:01:20,279
to Nation Hall, and he kind of remembers part of

2309
02:01:20,319 --> 02:01:25,399
it being Sid trying to pass it off as something

2310
02:01:25,479 --> 02:01:30,760
that Hall and Nash told him to say, as opposed

2311
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:33,760
to maybe this is where this comes from, this notion

2312
02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:37,319
that he you know, in addition to the shoot interview

2313
02:01:37,359 --> 02:01:39,520
clips he played where he said it was a scripted line.

2314
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:43,840
Maybe that whole line of thought got new life because

2315
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:48,560
of this Countdown special. But thanks to what to Dan

2316
02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:50,560
for pointing it out and in the spirit of following

2317
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:53,479
it up on a recent episode, which is always a

2318
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:58,359
very important part of what we do here on the

2319
02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:02,359
on the feedback shows, Pull pulled said segment and uh,

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02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:05,319
it's just a couple of minutes here we'll see what

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02:02:05,479 --> 02:02:09,520
Sid does and doesn't say relative to the famous blunder he.

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02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:10,279
Speaker 5: Went on the mic.

2323
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:12,560
Speaker 9: Good time for Psycho Sid.

2324
02:02:12,920 --> 02:02:16,520
Speaker 2: Remember they people to talk like that. Don't put your

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02:02:16,680 --> 02:02:19,880
nose at my best desk. It's actually pretty funny. Then

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02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:21,560
Sid woke out clips They come.

2327
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:26,039
Speaker 1: Up with foot nine, six ' ten Jack huge.

2328
02:02:26,439 --> 02:02:29,279
Speaker 2: He is a frightful site for any opponent.

2329
02:02:29,560 --> 02:02:32,159
Speaker 9: His persona in Ashley Psycho.

2330
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:36,079
Speaker 2: He's a psychotic, dangerous nuts.

2331
02:02:36,359 --> 02:02:37,720
Speaker 3: You are feared of me?

2332
02:02:38,239 --> 02:02:42,479
Speaker 7: Come you injected, sue a shot machine.

2333
02:02:43,159 --> 02:02:44,600
Speaker 5: I just don't even know if he knew what he

2334
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:46,840
was saying. And he just was saying it back.

2335
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:51,359
Speaker 3: You are tough, but your day, but stop, stop.

2336
02:02:53,199 --> 02:02:59,000
Speaker 2: What you're done. You're mess with this voice. Man up.

2337
02:03:02,279 --> 02:03:04,760
All I can say about see it. He was just dumb,

2338
02:03:05,399 --> 02:03:09,199
sh just dumb, like a six handed monster.

2339
02:03:09,399 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 6: And I don't mean that in a mean way or

2340
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:12,800
a hard way, you know, Just like I said, some

2341
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:14,479
guys have this and some guys don't.

2342
02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:21,319
Speaker 9: I don't even know what he sounded like, because every

2343
02:03:21,359 --> 02:03:22,640
time he talked, it would just tune out.

2344
02:03:25,279 --> 02:03:26,760
Speaker 2: It's one of those guys like you know. He was

2345
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:28,079
so physically.

2346
02:03:30,279 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 9: Because you talk, the more I'm laughing. If she ever

2347
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:38,399
sees this is probably gonna want to kill me. The

2348
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:43,359
blunder with Psycho Sid was handing him a microphone.

2349
02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:47,079
Speaker 2: I don't think Sid ever spoke one.

2350
02:03:47,039 --> 02:03:49,439
Speaker 3: Time without messing up somewhere.

2351
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:49,920
Speaker 5: How do you.

2352
02:03:50,079 --> 02:03:53,520
Speaker 7: Address those skeptics, Well, the skeptics and all the people

2353
02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:54,239
have a little bill.

2354
02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:57,680
Speaker 9: Let me do this live, how sorry, anybody has any

2355
02:03:57,880 --> 02:03:59,119
doubts would get their.

2356
02:03:59,119 --> 02:04:00,319
Speaker 2: Answer to night?

2357
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:04,960
Speaker 9: Well, I buddy, I expect there's gonna be a barn burner.

2358
02:04:05,680 --> 02:04:09,439
Speaker 2: Shut up, listen.

2359
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:13,119
Speaker 7: It was.

2360
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:17,479
Speaker 1: Open front Paul of Nash and Nash was already dressed

2361
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:18,239
up the cid.

2362
02:04:18,119 --> 02:04:21,399
Speaker 7: Curly hair, the chin and everything and all that, and they.

2363
02:04:21,279 --> 02:04:22,760
Speaker 5: Were already in the ring making fun of it.

2364
02:04:23,079 --> 02:04:27,680
Speaker 2: Bur of fact. I'm just a complete idiot.

2365
02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:31,119
Speaker 5: And then Sude comes out and says, you can.

2366
02:04:31,039 --> 02:04:36,079
Speaker 7: Wear any Halloween costume you want to. But you know

2367
02:04:36,239 --> 02:04:39,479
what I know, but you only half the man that

2368
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:46,439
I am, and I have half the brain.

2369
02:04:52,279 --> 02:04:54,119
Speaker 2: I have half the brain.

2370
02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:57,960
Speaker 3: I've got half the brain that you do.

2371
02:04:58,479 --> 02:05:00,199
Speaker 2: I asked him, wait, why did you say that? But

2372
02:05:00,319 --> 02:05:02,119
he told me to say it. They tell him to

2373
02:05:02,119 --> 02:05:03,640
say and he messed up his words. He didn't want

2374
02:05:03,720 --> 02:05:05,840
just to make it. I can't and will not take

2375
02:05:05,880 --> 02:05:09,279
credit for that, whatever sensation it is on the internet.

2376
02:05:09,359 --> 02:05:11,199
I will not take credit for that. I can't and

2377
02:05:11,279 --> 02:05:13,279
will not take credit for that, is what. That's all

2378
02:05:13,319 --> 02:05:15,880
he says. That's that's the only thing. He's in nothing

2379
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:19,720
saying I'm obliged to take credit for that. So you

2380
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:21,680
won't you tell me what that means. I will not

2381
02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:29,159
take credit for that. That means that he actually does

2382
02:05:29,479 --> 02:05:30,359
take credit for that.

2383
02:05:32,760 --> 02:05:35,239
Speaker 4: He means blame, not credit, And I think that's part

2384
02:05:35,279 --> 02:05:36,199
of what's throwing me off.

2385
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he take credit.

2386
02:05:38,079 --> 02:05:40,720
Speaker 4: But it sounds like they snipped him out explaining that

2387
02:05:41,279 --> 02:05:43,039
the whole thing. It sounds like they snipped him out

2388
02:05:43,079 --> 02:05:45,119
saying he was handed it, and then they just have

2389
02:05:45,239 --> 02:05:48,079
him saying I won't take credit for it because they

2390
02:05:48,119 --> 02:05:51,920
didn't want to platform his his uh, his falsity. But

2391
02:05:52,039 --> 02:05:54,239
I thought that was a great call by Dan there,

2392
02:05:54,239 --> 02:05:56,000
and turns out there are a lot of funny other

2393
02:05:56,039 --> 02:05:58,840
ones that I just didn't even know about or forgot

2394
02:05:59,399 --> 02:06:01,600
that he said over the years. I mean, just if

2395
02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:04,319
you just did a sizzle reel of his guttural noises

2396
02:06:04,520 --> 02:06:07,960
you know on promos. Oh yeah, absolutely, just a fucking riot.

2397
02:06:08,359 --> 02:06:10,640
Speaker 2: What is he doing? He's out of his mind, he

2398
02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:13,279
really is. I mean, he just I mean you just

2399
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:18,279
so when I was looking for that revolutionary thing, you know,

2400
02:06:18,319 --> 02:06:21,159
when we were looking at the at that at that

2401
02:06:21,399 --> 02:06:26,439
WW video of his, I was like every week he

2402
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:28,640
was out there in the middle of the ring just

2403
02:06:28,760 --> 02:06:31,840
spouting nonsense for ten minutes at a time. He really was.

2404
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:35,600
Speaker 4: It was unbelievable they let him do that. He's like

2405
02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:38,680
the last guy on earth. Like that's exactly the situation

2406
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:40,560
you put him in if you want to bury him.

2407
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:44,319
Speaker 2: You know, right or your company or company.

2408
02:06:45,479 --> 02:06:48,079
Speaker 4: It's been a while, but we last year brought you

2409
02:06:48,199 --> 02:06:51,399
lapsed GPT is part of our Christmas gifts for the

2410
02:06:51,439 --> 02:06:52,960
Solar System. One of the many things we hung on

2411
02:06:53,079 --> 02:06:56,039
your tree. And of course we received those great GPT

2412
02:06:56,199 --> 02:06:59,199
generated scripts from the Solar System that we read off

2413
02:06:59,199 --> 02:07:01,760
as part of the unrapid Kaipo. The homeboy in Hawaii

2414
02:07:02,279 --> 02:07:04,319
thought he would send us another one and we'll bring

2415
02:07:04,359 --> 02:07:06,840
it to you now. He writes, Hey, Jack and JP,

2416
02:07:07,560 --> 02:07:11,039
just be ready for ye who it's obvious you should

2417
02:07:11,079 --> 02:07:16,920
be doing, which is, let's see just about everyone beside Sean. Yeah, okay, hey,

2418
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:19,680
Jack and JP, I created a dialogue on chat GPT

2419
02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:22,399
that I think you guys would want to read. You

2420
02:07:22,439 --> 02:07:24,079
can choose to read over the year if you want. Okay,

2421
02:07:24,720 --> 02:07:28,239
Scene a backstage area. Jesse Ventura and Randy Savage are

2422
02:07:28,239 --> 02:07:30,720
sitting at a table piled high with Mexican food.

2423
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:36,279
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, Savage. I've been sampling these

2424
02:07:36,399 --> 02:07:39,960
chimney changas and enchiladas, and I gotta say, I guess

2425
02:07:40,039 --> 02:07:44,359
they're very good, very authentic, not that I can indulge,

2426
02:07:47,079 --> 02:07:51,039
Not that I can indulge too much. Chocolates, Chocolate's off

2427
02:07:51,079 --> 02:07:53,880
the menu. Now, gotta watch the old ticker.

2428
02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:54,159
Speaker 5: You know.

2429
02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:57,800
Speaker 2: Who cares about your ticker?

2430
02:07:58,079 --> 02:07:58,319
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2431
02:07:59,439 --> 02:08:03,600
Speaker 3: I think here to listen to your food reviews. Jimmy

2432
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:10,479
Junger's hin geladas. Step into the much your madness? Oh yeah,

2433
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:14,439
who don't need Mexican food to get to the top

2434
02:08:14,840 --> 02:08:21,039
digg it. Hey, calm down, Randy, It's just food. No

2435
02:08:21,279 --> 02:08:23,840
need to snap into it like one of your slim gems.

2436
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:27,119
Speaker 4: Enter hole Covid nervously looking over his shoulder every few seconds.

2437
02:08:30,319 --> 02:08:32,840
Well you should know it's his paranoid to brackets and he's.

2438
02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:37,800
Speaker 2: Going, honestly need to say something, So we'll get back

2439
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:40,279
on track and dial in. I love this feeling. Man,

2440
02:08:40,359 --> 02:08:43,479
someone's lurking around here waiting to ruin me up from behind.

2441
02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:45,920
At the end of the day, this, this double biz

2442
02:08:46,079 --> 02:08:48,439
is no joke. You all got my back? Right?

2443
02:08:49,199 --> 02:08:54,199
Speaker 3: Who's got your back? But the mutial man, that's for sure.

2444
02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:58,199
You want to talk about double bizz? How about you

2445
02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:02,279
doubled down in your own business.

2446
02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:05,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, entered the British Bulldog, looking early disheveled and carrying

2447
02:09:05,960 --> 02:09:07,640
a suspicious pipe in his hand.

2448
02:09:08,439 --> 02:09:11,600
Speaker 2: Who this is? Oi?

2449
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:12,840
Speaker 5: HOI?

2450
02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:17,079
Speaker 2: Where am I is?

2451
02:09:17,159 --> 02:09:17,199
Speaker 7: This?

2452
02:09:18,279 --> 02:09:19,880
Speaker 2: Is this the ring?

2453
02:09:21,399 --> 02:09:21,600
Speaker 5: Oh?

2454
02:09:22,199 --> 02:09:26,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. You look good? You look good any

2455
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:34,960
you know? Snacks bulldog? You look like you've never been

2456
02:09:35,119 --> 02:09:37,960
You look like you've been through a war zone. What

2457
02:09:38,119 --> 02:09:42,680
are you doing? Just taking the edge of me biting

2458
02:09:42,760 --> 02:09:43,199
the pipe?

2459
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:47,119
Speaker 3: Don't mind me to do this? What I'm talking about, brother,

2460
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:48,680
we're losing focus.

2461
02:09:48,920 --> 02:09:51,399
Speaker 2: We need to dial in. Where's the security?

2462
02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:55,079
Speaker 4: I swear someone's going ater sid vicious, laughing moniacally and

2463
02:09:55,159 --> 02:09:56,880
flexing for no apparent reason.

2464
02:09:57,640 --> 02:10:01,239
Speaker 2: You all think you're the masters of the universe. But

2465
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:07,039
ah and the master and the ruler of the world.

2466
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:15,880
Gods range and sid vicious thrives in it.

2467
02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:22,239
Speaker 3: You want to talk the MISTERSA montrer mis the cream

2468
02:10:22,359 --> 02:10:26,199
of the crop, and cream always raises to the top.

2469
02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:30,079
Speaker 4: Ooh yeah, to Shawn Michaels, strolling in nonchalantly with a

2470
02:10:30,159 --> 02:10:31,000
cocky grin.

2471
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:34,159
Speaker 2: HI had news for your Jack. No, no, you are

2472
02:10:34,239 --> 02:10:39,000
the cream. I'm trying to get this. You're just a

2473
02:10:39,079 --> 02:10:45,039
bunch of sour milk. I had news for you again, Jack,

2474
02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:48,279
Nobody here is gonna take a backs, he told hbk.

2475
02:10:49,159 --> 02:10:51,640
Hey watch the news, Shawan and light Nush. I had

2476
02:10:51,680 --> 02:10:56,439
news for you. Jack, doesn't matter. I'm the show stopper

2477
02:10:56,760 --> 02:10:59,880
the icon, and you're all just along for the rye.

2478
02:11:00,520 --> 02:11:04,520
You too, Jack, and you Jack, especially you Jack. Stop

2479
02:11:04,600 --> 02:11:08,279
calling me Jack father. We'll focus man at the end

2480
02:11:08,279 --> 02:11:08,640
of the day.

2481
02:11:09,079 --> 02:11:11,680
Speaker 4: Vince McMahon bursts into the room, clapping his hands together

2482
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:13,840
and speaking in his over the top corporate tone.

2483
02:11:14,600 --> 02:11:18,439
Speaker 2: All right, all right, people, let's synergize here and create

2484
02:11:18,479 --> 02:11:22,239
a collaborative environment. So we need to realign our objectives

2485
02:11:22,319 --> 02:11:26,079
and pivot to a win win solution. For all stakeholders.

2486
02:11:26,479 --> 02:11:30,000
I'll stay calm. We'll circle back to the paranoia later,

2487
02:11:30,359 --> 02:11:32,560
but for now, let's optimize the moment.

2488
02:11:33,079 --> 02:11:36,640
Speaker 4: Boss quickly, what is the rock who obtained a ton

2489
02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:40,279
of shares in his recent ascent to the board of

2490
02:11:40,520 --> 02:11:47,720
wwe have in common with the Big Show? What they're

2491
02:11:47,800 --> 02:11:48,960
both stakeholders.

2492
02:11:55,960 --> 02:11:59,560
Speaker 2: I mean I should have held that go ahead. Sorry,

2493
02:12:01,960 --> 02:12:03,479
it's almost like a double cross almost gone on.

2494
02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:07,359
Speaker 4: The Big Show suddenly appears out of nowhere with a

2495
02:12:07,439 --> 02:12:13,119
cheeseburger in his handy. He casually rolls up Hogan for

2496
02:12:13,199 --> 02:12:16,399
a three count. The referee, who also appears out of nowhere.

2497
02:12:16,439 --> 02:12:18,600
It counts at one. At two three I.

2498
02:12:18,680 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 2: Believe actually called would have been one. Two. Ghost stops.

2499
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:26,640
Hord's done.

2500
02:12:26,800 --> 02:12:28,560
Speaker 4: Everyone in the room bursts in the laughter as hult

2501
02:12:28,600 --> 02:12:30,720
Cogan scrambles to his feet, looking horrified.

2502
02:12:31,399 --> 02:12:34,199
Speaker 2: Hurrah, I knew it, I told you, brother, I told

2503
02:12:34,239 --> 02:12:34,560
you all.

2504
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:37,119
Speaker 4: Everyone continues laughing as Hogan disappears into the distance.

2505
02:12:37,239 --> 02:12:39,840
Speaker 2: Hi, I knew it was for you, Jack. That was hilarious.

2506
02:12:42,319 --> 02:12:46,840
Speaker 4: A lot of fun, A lot of fun. Thank you, Kaypo.

2507
02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:49,920
Always great to hear from him. George writes to us,

2508
02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:51,920
what a journey you have taken us through, and what

2509
02:12:52,039 --> 02:12:54,000
a pleasure it has been to watch along with you lads.

2510
02:12:54,279 --> 02:12:56,600
Being a huge Bond fan, I didn't even realize that

2511
02:12:56,720 --> 02:12:59,399
most of the series qualified for that cinemat treatment. I

2512
02:12:59,479 --> 02:13:02,560
had no idea about so many wrestling connections. Hopefully we

2513
02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:06,640
can get those loose end films squared away, Bravo, chaps.

2514
02:13:07,920 --> 02:13:09,920
Speaker 2: It's the goal. That's the goal. You heard it here,

2515
02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:10,800
first goal.

2516
02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:16,199
Speaker 4: When was Andrew Writ's Mitsuhara Matsunaga and Wang discussed on

2517
02:13:16,279 --> 02:13:19,520
that cast under the cinemat. No time to die, of course,

2518
02:13:26,199 --> 02:13:29,279
what's the problem, Zach writes, am I missing something or

2519
02:13:29,319 --> 02:13:32,039
as an adult, being into slow pitch softball the equivalent

2520
02:13:32,079 --> 02:13:34,800
of being into bumper bowling. It seems like something only

2521
02:13:34,880 --> 02:13:42,439
for children to me. Sid Oh God, how about this?

2522
02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:46,560
You should feel proud about this one. Robert Reynolds a

2523
02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:48,079
couple of things he wrote on the end of the

2524
02:13:48,119 --> 02:13:49,840
Bond Journey. One, I felt it at the end of

2525
02:13:49,880 --> 02:13:53,199
the Funk Journey too. I'm not ready to go. And

2526
02:13:53,319 --> 02:13:55,439
he also writes, Roger Moore has been dead for seven years.

2527
02:13:55,600 --> 02:13:57,520
I've not seen a film he was in until this year.

2528
02:13:57,720 --> 02:14:00,760
And yet when the newscaster announced his death, on this episode.

2529
02:14:00,880 --> 02:14:02,439
I got a lump in my throat.

2530
02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:06,760
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. That's service, boss, You've done service. Do what

2531
02:14:06,840 --> 02:14:10,520
I can. That was what we want, you know, honestly,

2532
02:14:10,640 --> 02:14:13,680
he and that was not a planned thing, Okay. I

2533
02:14:13,880 --> 02:14:16,840
was not out there to celebrate Roger Moore. That was

2534
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:21,239
a thing that just happened because he's Roger Moore, right,

2535
02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:24,119
Hall Cogin put it beautifully. Damn.

2536
02:14:24,119 --> 02:14:26,319
Speaker 4: I don't want this one to end, but I guess

2537
02:14:26,359 --> 02:14:29,119
it's time to die. M then, right, So I'm sure

2538
02:14:29,159 --> 02:14:30,640
you've looked into it. But in the next part, will

2539
02:14:30,640 --> 02:14:32,680
you comment on the WW trying to hire Sidne too?

2540
02:14:32,920 --> 02:14:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? I included this.

2541
02:14:33,680 --> 02:14:35,720
Speaker 4: I couldn't find anything better about what you're talking about,

2542
02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:37,760
he said. Pritchard has talked about it on his podcast.

2543
02:14:37,840 --> 02:14:40,760
I can't believe WW would try to hire Sidne no

2544
02:14:40,840 --> 02:14:43,359
too when he wasn't even mobile yet. His leg hadn't

2545
02:14:43,359 --> 02:14:45,720
be fully healed as far as we can glean, and

2546
02:14:45,800 --> 02:14:48,119
he just disappeared from this.

2547
02:14:48,319 --> 02:14:50,600
Speaker 2: Is better when he's not mobile. Maybe they try and

2548
02:14:50,720 --> 02:14:51,399
do more with him.

2549
02:14:51,359 --> 02:14:53,399
Speaker 4: To poach him from like that WWA group where he

2550
02:14:53,439 --> 02:14:55,800
did like a shot as a commissioner. Maybe that was

2551
02:14:55,880 --> 02:14:56,600
the idea, But I don't.

2552
02:14:56,600 --> 02:14:56,840
Speaker 2: I don't.

2553
02:14:56,840 --> 02:14:58,720
Speaker 4: I couldn't find anything. So if anyone out there can

2554
02:15:00,199 --> 02:15:03,640
in that loose end for us and find some instance

2555
02:15:03,680 --> 02:15:05,600
where people talked about WW trying to recruit Sid in

2556
02:15:05,600 --> 02:15:07,720
two thousand and two, at which point he basically disappeared

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02:15:07,720 --> 02:15:08,760
from the scene for three years.

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02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:10,960
Speaker 2: I would love to hear it. Bruno.

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02:15:11,479 --> 02:15:13,920
Speaker 4: Yep, thanks for the for the cake and the support.

2560
02:15:13,960 --> 02:15:17,279
In the three sixteen membership, Jerome puts out a fun thing.

2561
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:19,399
I was supposed to see Hogan and Sid at Spring

2562
02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:22,760
Stampede two thousand before the big changeover in management, ended

2563
02:15:22,840 --> 02:15:24,520
up seeing neither wrestle. It was my one and only

2564
02:15:24,640 --> 02:15:28,760
WCW show. That's easy to forget. Before Russell and Bischoff

2565
02:15:28,840 --> 02:15:31,119
came in, they were having they were going to reignite

2566
02:15:31,159 --> 02:15:33,880
A Hogan. Remember we did that quick mention of the

2567
02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:36,560
press conference angle where Hogan takes the spotlight. Yeah, that

2568
02:15:36,640 --> 02:15:39,119
was building to the Spring Stampede main event that never

2569
02:15:39,359 --> 02:15:43,359
was because Bishoff and Russo take over in early April

2570
02:15:43,399 --> 02:15:45,399
on that Nitro and reshuffle the whole deck and Spring

2571
02:15:45,479 --> 02:15:47,640
Stampede is the first pay per view under that new regime.

2572
02:15:48,800 --> 02:15:49,720
Speaker 2: That's wild, it is.

2573
02:15:51,880 --> 02:15:56,159
Speaker 4: Ah Ronaldi quotes from the SID Journey. Frank, I am

2574
02:15:56,640 --> 02:15:59,239
disappointed that you got a ninety nine percent ahead instead

2575
02:15:59,239 --> 02:16:01,560
of a one hundred and will never attend an event

2576
02:16:01,640 --> 02:16:09,039
of yours, But I love you very much, okay. Steve

2577
02:16:09,119 --> 02:16:12,840
writes there was meant to be a SID website, but

2578
02:16:13,039 --> 02:16:19,319
Frank was left in charge of it. Yeah, we are

2579
02:16:19,359 --> 02:16:21,600
the best, the best listeners. Chris writes SID as a

2580
02:16:21,640 --> 02:16:24,000
character from a Coen Brothers would be Tex Cobbs, mounty

2581
02:16:24,039 --> 02:16:27,720
hunter from Raising Arizona. Big badass with an awesome reputation,

2582
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:30,119
and he ends is running the most hilarious fashion possible.

2583
02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:32,719
Do you know, uh, Raising Arizona.

2584
02:16:33,479 --> 02:16:35,239
Speaker 2: A little bit. I've seen him once or twice. I

2585
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:38,280
haven't seen it. It's not my favorite Cohen movie.

2586
02:16:39,159 --> 02:16:44,120
Speaker 4: Brian Blake, it's real Simpleton the TLF SID tribute, That's

2587
02:16:44,239 --> 02:16:46,399
that's the truth. Read to stuff, Sam Ouie, thank you

2588
02:16:46,440 --> 02:16:48,360
for the pledge, my friend. We appreciate it. Jeff Ruben,

2589
02:16:48,440 --> 02:16:51,440
Welcome in to the Inner Circle. Richard Mann writes, how

2590
02:16:51,479 --> 02:16:53,280
did Jack not bring up random task?

2591
02:16:53,399 --> 02:16:54,319
Speaker 2: Was Joe's son? Yeah?

2592
02:16:54,600 --> 02:16:58,680
Speaker 4: Random task from Austin Powers, Yeah, which we spent some

2593
02:16:58,799 --> 02:17:01,840
time naturally talking about the Bond Journey. Yeah, Joe Son

2594
02:17:02,040 --> 02:17:06,479
was an early early proto era UFC fighter who's in

2595
02:17:06,559 --> 02:17:08,319
the movie. He's kind of like an odd you know,

2596
02:17:08,360 --> 02:17:09,600
the odd job take off character.

2597
02:17:09,959 --> 02:17:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, random task.

2598
02:17:11,440 --> 02:17:14,079
Speaker 4: So he was he He fought in UFC and did

2599
02:17:14,159 --> 02:17:16,000
some pro wrestling as well, and was a total pervert

2600
02:17:16,079 --> 02:17:17,719
and ended up going to jail for like a gang

2601
02:17:17,799 --> 02:17:18,399
rape or something.

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02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:19,000
Speaker 9: Wow.

2603
02:17:19,600 --> 02:17:21,440
Speaker 4: But it's like, you know, he's not it's not a

2604
02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:23,879
bond character. So it's like a little far afield. But

2605
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:26,840
I should have brought it up. I accept my culpability

2606
02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:29,280
if we ever do Austin Powers, know that I'm ready. Okay,

2607
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:32,719
I believe it there. I mean I knew, Yeah they're there.

2608
02:17:32,879 --> 02:17:36,399
I think they believe they are. I don't know if

2609
02:17:36,440 --> 02:17:36,959
all of them are.

2610
02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:39,840
Speaker 2: What do you mean they being Oh the Powers movies,

2611
02:17:40,239 --> 02:17:41,040
Awesome Powers movie.

2612
02:17:41,079 --> 02:17:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I also distinct. Remember at one point someone saying

2613
02:17:42,840 --> 02:17:46,280
Austin Powers was the last movie Vince McMahon saw, or

2614
02:17:46,360 --> 02:17:46,760
it was like his.

2615
02:17:46,879 --> 02:17:49,799
Speaker 2: Favorite at least we someone said that. I remember hearing that,

2616
02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:54,079
and then we kind of always talking to moms gonna

2617
02:17:54,079 --> 02:17:57,120
move his awesome Powers? Right, yeah, what what more can

2618
02:17:57,200 --> 02:17:57,760
you see after that?

2619
02:17:57,959 --> 02:17:58,120
Speaker 3: Right?

2620
02:17:58,600 --> 02:18:00,559
Speaker 4: He said it was the greatest thing you'd ever said. Yeah,

2621
02:18:00,639 --> 02:18:03,600
if you want to know how Vince's mind works, Josh Burr,

2622
02:18:03,680 --> 02:18:05,440
thank you very much for the pledge, my friend. We

2623
02:18:05,559 --> 02:18:08,600
appreciate the cake and the support, and we know you're

2624
02:18:08,639 --> 02:18:12,200
going to enjoy it. Roberta writes in Greeting's co Chairman,

2625
02:18:12,280 --> 02:18:13,959
just wanted to give my two cents in the Millennium Man.

2626
02:18:14,280 --> 02:18:16,239
In nineteen ninety nine, I was sixteen years old. I

2627
02:18:16,319 --> 02:18:19,120
was a diehard WWF fan, hated the old folks home

2628
02:18:19,159 --> 02:18:21,520
that was WCW. But Sid maybe change the channel whenever

2629
02:18:21,600 --> 02:18:23,600
he was on. I knew it was fake, obviously, but

2630
02:18:23,680 --> 02:18:25,520
I still wasn't really smartened up, and I just thought,

2631
02:18:25,600 --> 02:18:27,520
no one else in WCW does a choke slam and

2632
02:18:27,719 --> 02:18:30,879
a power bomb. Sid still rules. I would give anything

2633
02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:32,799
to be able to watch wrestling that credulously.

2634
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:33,280
Speaker 2: Again.

2635
02:18:33,600 --> 02:18:39,639
Speaker 4: Amen, Amen to that absolutely good point. Jeff writes, Okay,

2636
02:18:39,680 --> 02:18:41,479
co chairs, just tell me how much a podcast if

2637
02:18:41,520 --> 02:18:44,799
the Adventures lapsed Michael G. Wilson and lapsed Jesse would cost,

2638
02:18:45,639 --> 02:18:47,719
so I can let the bank know these excessive charges

2639
02:18:47,760 --> 02:18:52,120
to Patreon aren't fraudulent. The Adventures of Michael G. Wilson

2640
02:18:52,760 --> 02:19:00,399
and Jesse the Body of Ventura. Hey, Michael, Michael, what

2641
02:19:00,479 --> 02:19:01,319
you're doing over there?

2642
02:19:04,319 --> 02:19:04,559
Speaker 5: All right?

2643
02:19:04,760 --> 02:19:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm just well, I'm wondering what it is that I'm.

2644
02:19:08,440 --> 02:19:11,639
Speaker 4: Doing for cinemat Fans know Michael G. Wilson, but those

2645
02:19:11,680 --> 02:19:12,760
who weren't him tell him.

2646
02:19:13,440 --> 02:19:17,280
Speaker 2: He is. He is the step son of Albert Kubby Brockley,

2647
02:19:17,399 --> 02:19:24,680
the producer, creator, galactic overseer of the James Bond franchise

2648
02:19:24,920 --> 02:19:28,159
from day one, and he came on and if he

2649
02:19:28,600 --> 02:19:33,639
you know, he's just he looks better now, all right.

2650
02:19:33,680 --> 02:19:35,280
I'm going to give him that. He looks better now.

2651
02:19:35,840 --> 02:19:38,799
But when you see him in doing interviews in the

2652
02:19:39,079 --> 02:19:42,520
late seventies early eighties for the Bond movies, he just

2653
02:19:42,719 --> 02:19:48,719
he looks like someone who has done wrong, right, and

2654
02:19:49,520 --> 02:19:52,120
you know, and he apparently knows martial arts, and he

2655
02:19:52,159 --> 02:19:54,760
definitely looks like a guy who would know martial arts,

2656
02:19:55,159 --> 02:19:59,280
just you know, and he would try to kill you. Absolutely,

2657
02:19:59,280 --> 02:19:59,959
he would try to kill you.

2658
02:20:00,159 --> 02:20:02,879
Speaker 11: I think that's any talks like that, he just doesn't

2659
02:20:02,879 --> 02:20:05,159
have much inflection or volume in his voice. He just

2660
02:20:05,760 --> 02:20:06,920
kind of mumbles very softly.

2661
02:20:07,000 --> 02:20:09,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd be totally calm and disconnected about it. That's

2662
02:20:09,360 --> 02:20:09,680
the point.

2663
02:20:09,719 --> 02:20:13,159
Speaker 11: Sometimes sometimes I wonder to myself what it is that

2664
02:20:13,319 --> 02:20:16,959
makes me angry, and then when I get angry, I.

2665
02:20:18,959 --> 02:20:19,520
Speaker 2: Killed people.

2666
02:20:20,760 --> 02:20:22,719
Speaker 4: He said, Sometimes I wonder to myself what it is

2667
02:20:22,799 --> 02:20:30,200
that makes me angry? What does that even mean? Chuck writes,

2668
02:20:30,239 --> 02:20:32,120
to be fair to Big Van Vader, his book was

2669
02:20:32,200 --> 02:20:36,760
called Vader Time, and it was published by Walking on

2670
02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:40,000
Hot Waffles. That's the name of the publisher, not the name.

2671
02:20:40,079 --> 02:20:45,479
Oh my god, the book. However, ironically, Boss Vader often

2672
02:20:45,559 --> 02:20:46,680
walking on hot waffles.

2673
02:20:46,920 --> 02:20:49,639
Speaker 2: That's very true, as he would put and also often

2674
02:20:49,719 --> 02:20:51,040
eating hot waffles.

2675
02:20:51,079 --> 02:20:53,159
Speaker 4: Because he would put six hundred of them in toasting

2676
02:20:53,200 --> 02:20:55,879
at a time and they'd all pop, and inevitably, in

2677
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:58,440
the rush to get his face on them, he'd step

2678
02:20:58,520 --> 02:21:01,079
on some. Ryan James, thank you very much for the pledge.

2679
02:21:01,120 --> 02:21:03,680
Welcome in, Brett Derezo. It's great to have your support, pal.

2680
02:21:03,920 --> 02:21:08,159
Thank you very much. Jerome says, just get into the

2681
02:21:08,159 --> 02:21:10,600
commentary on the Bond series over the British premieres of

2682
02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:13,360
Bond films, and I move that we replaced the live

2683
02:21:13,440 --> 02:21:16,079
calls of w W shows with live calls of British premiers.

2684
02:21:18,760 --> 02:21:20,639
Speaker 2: People love that shit. I loved it. That's one of

2685
02:21:20,719 --> 02:21:23,520
my favorite parts of the Bond Journey me too. It's

2686
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:27,440
just absolutely hilarious. I mean, honestly, we when when when

2687
02:21:27,520 --> 02:21:29,319
I when I found when I found footage of the

2688
02:21:29,520 --> 02:21:31,399
of the first one that I was able to get,

2689
02:21:31,479 --> 02:21:33,520
and I was like, holy shit, this is just fantastic.

2690
02:21:33,639 --> 02:21:36,200
Speaker 4: And just the way you kick into that gear of like, ah, yes,

2691
02:21:36,840 --> 02:21:39,600
oh my god, are you good at that. I like

2692
02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:42,440
the idea of doing alternate commentary for like the Macy's

2693
02:21:42,520 --> 02:21:45,399
Day Parade or something, you know, absolutely just being like

2694
02:21:45,639 --> 02:21:49,760
just totally obnoxious about it. Cody Meek, thanks for the pledge.

2695
02:21:50,159 --> 02:21:50,840
Speaker 2: We appreciate it.

2696
02:21:50,920 --> 02:21:53,719
Speaker 4: Christopher Marriing Rights reaching River of Darkness on my first

2697
02:21:53,719 --> 02:21:55,600
pass through under of the Cinema. That's one of Sid's

2698
02:21:55,760 --> 02:21:57,959
indie hits, right, the one with kurent Angle.

2699
02:21:58,399 --> 02:22:04,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, just after. I mean, that's he's his filmography is

2700
02:22:04,479 --> 02:22:05,840
not long, no, not at all.

2701
02:22:05,920 --> 02:22:07,799
Speaker 4: That is one of them, and we covered that before

2702
02:22:07,879 --> 02:22:11,319
we lionized Sid yep ye by my first pass th

2703
02:22:11,440 --> 02:22:13,440
under the Cinemat just after finishing this episode of the

2704
02:22:13,479 --> 02:22:17,239
Sid Tribute, his proof of lapsed Serendipity apparently said in

2705
02:22:17,280 --> 02:22:19,680
the episode says, I never met Kurt Angle before this movie,

2706
02:22:19,760 --> 02:22:21,680
and then later says, yes, I met him when Kurt

2707
02:22:21,760 --> 02:22:23,920
was first starting in this business in the Memphis territory.

2708
02:22:25,120 --> 02:22:27,840
Speaker 2: It can't be both, Sid, When did you meet this sure?

2709
02:22:28,360 --> 02:22:29,159
Do you sure came both?

2710
02:22:30,239 --> 02:22:32,680
Speaker 4: Suit Williams, Welcome back, my friend. Thanks for the pledge.

2711
02:22:32,719 --> 02:22:36,360
We appreciated. Logan, Yes, give me that fucking cake. Matthew Muns, Yes,

2712
02:22:36,600 --> 02:22:39,760
up that pledge. Parker Soul saying, yes, welcome into the

2713
02:22:39,799 --> 02:22:43,159
inner circle. Aaron Horton keep going up? Why stop there?

2714
02:22:44,879 --> 02:22:47,399
Derga points out when we're going through ninety nine Sid

2715
02:22:47,719 --> 02:22:50,639
when he was in that Randy Savage stable. Remember we

2716
02:22:50,760 --> 02:22:53,879
talked about that thing where Sid slap Tory Wilson. Pardon me,

2717
02:22:54,319 --> 02:22:57,200
Randy Savage slap Tory Wilson a nitro one time when

2718
02:22:57,239 --> 02:23:04,360
it wasn't scripted. Yes, Durga points out an important nuance

2719
02:23:04,399 --> 02:23:06,680
about that. He says, this has probably been pointed out already,

2720
02:23:06,680 --> 02:23:08,399
and it's a small thing. But the Tory Wilson's lap

2721
02:23:08,479 --> 02:23:10,360
was that she was laughing at Randy's intensity, so he

2722
02:23:10,399 --> 02:23:12,959
slapped her, not the other way around. I remembered it

2723
02:23:13,079 --> 02:23:16,399
being Randy slapped her, and it was like such a

2724
02:23:16,479 --> 02:23:19,479
fake slap that she couldn't help but laugh. But Randy

2725
02:23:19,520 --> 02:23:22,159
slapped her because she was already laughing at how over

2726
02:23:22,239 --> 02:23:25,000
the top he was being so right, that really makes

2727
02:23:25,040 --> 02:23:26,879
it a little darker, you know what I mean, that

2728
02:23:28,120 --> 02:23:30,200
we can't We can't take solace in the idea that

2729
02:23:30,280 --> 02:23:32,280
the slap was k faved enough that she could laugh

2730
02:23:32,319 --> 02:23:32,559
it off.

2731
02:23:32,639 --> 02:23:35,680
Speaker 2: No, in fact, she gots slapped for laughing right, that

2732
02:23:35,799 --> 02:23:38,440
was out of his fucking mind, That's what happened. Just

2733
02:23:38,479 --> 02:23:40,280
think of like the state of his upper body in

2734
02:23:40,319 --> 02:23:42,760
that run, and the look on his face and the

2735
02:23:42,840 --> 02:23:45,840
recedingness of his hairline and the leather of his cangle

2736
02:23:46,559 --> 02:23:55,120
and then he can't get it up. I mean, what

2737
02:23:55,239 --> 02:23:58,079
a story. Yes, indeed, maybe we have to do that journey.

2738
02:23:58,079 --> 02:24:01,399
I don't know. There's too much man, and there's a

2739
02:24:01,479 --> 02:24:04,040
lot there. Oh, he's a fascinating one for sure.

2740
02:24:04,280 --> 02:24:06,120
Speaker 4: Alex writes, I'm not trying to be funny when I

2741
02:24:06,159 --> 02:24:08,319
say I actually think the series finale of TLF is

2742
02:24:08,319 --> 02:24:09,600
going to be the Hogan tribute show.

2743
02:24:16,479 --> 02:24:19,280
Speaker 2: No, I don't know, Mike says, I mean, listen, depends

2744
02:24:20,239 --> 02:24:23,559
if we're like on our way to the grave.

2745
02:24:23,680 --> 02:24:26,440
Speaker 4: Maybe, well, I don't see how. I don't see how

2746
02:24:26,479 --> 02:24:30,559
we can't do a hog contribute until We're in the grave,

2747
02:24:30,600 --> 02:24:34,559
because it was just it have to be thirty years long,

2748
02:24:35,040 --> 02:24:36,040
it'd be so crazy.

2749
02:24:36,920 --> 02:24:37,920
Speaker 2: Why do they do this to us?

2750
02:24:37,959 --> 02:24:40,639
Speaker 4: Why do they make us think about these things? And

2751
02:24:41,040 --> 02:24:43,639
that's what we do, Mike says. JP's memory of Great

2752
02:24:43,639 --> 02:24:45,920
American Bash ninety nine and the many copies the video

2753
02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:48,600
store had unlocked my own memory. I worked at Hollywood

2754
02:24:48,639 --> 02:24:50,319
Video from two thousand two to two thousand and six,

2755
02:24:50,360 --> 02:24:52,319
and we had a VHS copy of Great American Bash

2756
02:24:52,399 --> 02:24:54,760
to rent and three used copies for sale. Even as

2757
02:24:54,760 --> 02:24:56,559
a huge nineties wrestling fan, I knew better than to

2758
02:24:56,639 --> 02:24:58,239
check out WCW from that era.

2759
02:24:58,760 --> 02:24:58,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2760
02:24:59,040 --> 02:25:02,600
Speaker 4: Man, such a so much excess inventory of those nineteen

2761
02:25:02,680 --> 02:25:04,280
ninety nine WCW tapes.

2762
02:25:04,479 --> 02:25:07,559
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. And again like that that weird. It

2763
02:25:07,680 --> 02:25:13,440
was just that weird, you know. I didn't know anything

2764
02:25:13,479 --> 02:25:17,000
about it, and so just seeing Nash and Savage just

2765
02:25:17,079 --> 02:25:18,920
like this a weird thing. Like I'm thinking, this is

2766
02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:20,799
not a thing I ever had any desire to see.

2767
02:25:21,600 --> 02:25:23,559
Speaker 4: And on those videotapes, we were wondering during the SID

2768
02:25:23,600 --> 02:25:26,280
tribute what Mandalay Entertainment possibly could have in terms of

2769
02:25:26,360 --> 02:25:30,680
connection because Mandalay entertainment displays on those WW home videotapes. Yes,

2770
02:25:31,079 --> 02:25:33,840
and Tom ex Nacio always with the Intel, comes forward

2771
02:25:33,840 --> 02:25:36,559
and says Mandalay was Peter Gouber's parachute when he got

2772
02:25:36,600 --> 02:25:40,479
fired from sonywhile Jason Hervey worked for Mandalai. So when

2773
02:25:40,520 --> 02:25:44,159
Sony bought licensing rights to distribute WW home video from Turner,

2774
02:25:44,280 --> 02:25:46,040
which I guess that was something I was missing too.

2775
02:25:46,120 --> 02:25:49,159
That Sony bought the rights from Turner in nineteen ninety nine,

2776
02:25:49,360 --> 02:25:51,840
they put Hervey, who had broken the deal, and Mandalay,

2777
02:25:51,879 --> 02:25:54,520
which was interested in sports rights, in charge. Gooper went

2778
02:25:54,559 --> 02:25:57,280
on to be a minority owner of the Warriors, So

2779
02:25:57,399 --> 02:25:58,840
there you go. That was almost like a baby step

2780
02:25:58,840 --> 02:26:02,000
in the direction of Mandela Consis during buying WCW YEP,

2781
02:26:02,159 --> 02:26:04,479
they were already in in the home video side of things.

2782
02:26:04,559 --> 02:26:07,120
Speaker 2: And Jason, because you got Hervey there right.

2783
02:26:07,840 --> 02:26:09,879
Speaker 4: He also writes a Tom, it's so funny. The three

2784
02:26:09,920 --> 02:26:12,680
biggest licensing deals WW you ever made, Sony for home

2785
02:26:12,760 --> 02:26:15,399
video rights, EA for video game rights, and toy Biz

2786
02:26:15,440 --> 02:26:18,319
for action figure rights all began in January nineteen ninety nine,

2787
02:26:18,520 --> 02:26:20,040
and by the end of ninety nine the business had

2788
02:26:20,079 --> 02:26:22,840
fallen off a Cliff and all those rights were essentially worthless.

2789
02:26:24,280 --> 02:26:28,559
Timed beautifully, guys, real, real, great job by your crack staff.

2790
02:26:29,879 --> 02:26:31,920
William Wright's co chairman. I have lived in the Little Rock,

2791
02:26:32,000 --> 02:26:34,520
Arkansas area for ten years now. I needed a job

2792
02:26:34,600 --> 02:26:36,360
and got on as a server of the local Chili's.

2793
02:26:36,559 --> 02:26:38,520
One of the managers there is gorgeous Gary Jung of

2794
02:26:38,559 --> 02:26:41,159
Global Memphis in Dallas Fame. He once told me about

2795
02:26:41,159 --> 02:26:42,719
some ring gear that he used for a while that

2796
02:26:42,840 --> 02:26:45,280
was the goofy half trunk with one leg covered down

2797
02:26:45,319 --> 02:26:48,040
to his boot. I think we talked about how unfortunate

2798
02:26:48,079 --> 02:26:50,159
that ring gear is during an episode along the way.

2799
02:26:50,719 --> 02:26:52,639
He said that the gear seemed cool at the time,

2800
02:26:52,680 --> 02:26:55,920
but every time he got slammed or suplexed, his balls

2801
02:26:55,920 --> 02:26:58,319
would pop out. Oh my god, So you got to

2802
02:26:58,319 --> 02:27:01,639
consider that, Chris Man, thanks for the support, my friend.

2803
02:27:01,680 --> 02:27:05,280
Welcome to the executive producer tier. Appreciate it very much.

2804
02:27:06,120 --> 02:27:09,399
Vippin with this letter, dearest coach chairman, this message has

2805
02:27:09,440 --> 02:27:11,639
meant more for Jacks though. I hold you both dearly

2806
02:27:11,719 --> 02:27:13,959
for getting me through tough circumstances and being the wrestling

2807
02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:16,639
friends that I need. This is a private message. Please

2808
02:27:16,680 --> 02:27:18,719
do not share publicly. I just want to say thank you.

2809
02:27:18,879 --> 02:27:21,280
We won't but I wanted to say thank you. That's

2810
02:27:21,280 --> 02:27:23,719
all I can say. Kevin Hiknutt, thank you very much

2811
02:27:24,040 --> 02:27:26,639
for the pledge. We appreciate the support. Blake says, just

2812
02:27:26,680 --> 02:27:28,440
a thought, But I was thinking. And don't think there's

2813
02:27:28,440 --> 02:27:30,760
ever been a year from a theatrical release perspective that

2814
02:27:30,879 --> 02:27:34,520
was quite like nineteen eighty nine. Oh yeah, hell, I'll

2815
02:27:34,559 --> 02:27:36,040
spare the list, but it's almost like it had to

2816
02:27:36,079 --> 02:27:38,719
be destined from the gods. Something magical happened that year.

2817
02:27:39,040 --> 02:27:40,399
Not sure if you can do anything with that, but

2818
02:27:40,520 --> 02:27:43,000
some type of nineteen eighty nine cinema journey would fucking

2819
02:27:43,079 --> 02:27:46,000
hit everyone right between the eyes. I think, just yeah,

2820
02:27:46,120 --> 02:27:48,680
to go by year instead of by some.

2821
02:27:48,799 --> 02:27:50,399
Speaker 2: I mean I'd have to look. I mean again, I'd

2822
02:27:50,559 --> 02:27:52,600
look to see. I mean I know that there are

2823
02:27:52,760 --> 02:27:56,159
we'd listen. I mean, he talked about it, but we

2824
02:27:56,520 --> 02:27:59,159
already do have one connection at least to the biggest

2825
02:27:59,280 --> 02:28:02,479
movie of night Canadian nine, which was Batman uh in

2826
02:28:02,639 --> 02:28:06,159
Tony Van Silva. Yes, so, I mean it's something to

2827
02:28:06,239 --> 02:28:09,120
look at, you know, something to consider looking at what

2828
02:28:10,280 --> 02:28:15,479
uh you know, like see what what movies are are

2829
02:28:15,639 --> 02:28:19,040
available doing this to you for us. I mean it's

2830
02:28:19,120 --> 02:28:23,200
always the same. I love it, Damiens, We've done and

2831
02:28:23,239 --> 02:28:26,040
we've done some of them already. That's that's that's also

2832
02:28:26,159 --> 02:28:29,959
kind of the the in a way of bummer, because

2833
02:28:29,959 --> 02:28:34,600
we have done a significant amount from eighty nine the

2834
02:28:34,760 --> 02:28:40,680
Indiana Jones, we did Ghostbusters two already, we did Gremlins.

2835
02:28:41,200 --> 02:28:43,799
Speaker 4: Having done eighty five Star Kid before the memorial tour.

2836
02:28:44,000 --> 02:28:48,840
Speaker 2: Right right, But there's oh yea, there's a lot in here,

2837
02:28:51,760 --> 02:28:52,920
like to see the.

2838
02:28:52,920 --> 02:28:55,520
Speaker 4: Greatest year for wrestling too, not from a business receiapts standpoint,

2839
02:28:55,600 --> 02:28:57,399
but just from in terms of the stuff both the

2840
02:28:57,440 --> 02:28:58,399
big two are putting out.

2841
02:28:58,600 --> 02:29:00,479
Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, I mean this was having more of

2842
02:29:00,559 --> 02:29:02,479
like a big money here, like just a lot of

2843
02:29:02,559 --> 02:29:07,719
movies came out that were huge. I don't feel the

2844
02:29:07,799 --> 02:29:08,760
Dreams came out then too.

2845
02:29:08,840 --> 02:29:14,799
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, Damieney, Damien Thorn, thanks for the pledge,

2846
02:29:14,840 --> 02:29:17,159
my friend. We appreciated. Ellis right. My mother has told

2847
02:29:17,200 --> 02:29:18,799
me the story numerous times. When she went to see

2848
02:29:18,799 --> 02:29:21,040
The Exorcist, she saw it twice in theaters that they

2849
02:29:21,079 --> 02:29:23,600
gave out vomit bags to the movie. Oh my god,

2850
02:29:24,360 --> 02:29:28,479
imagine the Exorcist, part of Scary Movie Season. Another fucking

2851
02:29:28,559 --> 02:29:32,399
banner accomplishment this year under the cinematic fun. We go

2852
02:29:32,520 --> 02:29:36,200
on and on about TLFX, but man UTC X, let

2853
02:29:36,239 --> 02:29:38,440
me tell you, Yeah, there's a lot of action over

2854
02:29:38,479 --> 02:29:45,120
there this year UTC four And for George, he writes

2855
02:29:45,760 --> 02:29:49,239
as always good fun watching along UTC has become a

2856
02:29:49,319 --> 02:29:50,840
Friday tradition thing for me.

2857
02:29:50,959 --> 02:29:53,840
Speaker 2: Now, how great is that? Love? It? It is so awesome?

2858
02:29:54,479 --> 02:29:55,079
Makes me happy.

2859
02:29:55,440 --> 02:29:57,920
Speaker 4: Rick Rude is the subject line here from Brian. Hello,

2860
02:29:58,120 --> 02:29:59,920
long time, first time in that ass, and I don't

2861
02:30:00,079 --> 02:30:03,559
mind so remember you briefly touched on the rumors regarding

2862
02:30:03,639 --> 02:30:08,319
Rick Rude and being castrated. Donky Tonk, Jake Morocco, and

2863
02:30:08,360 --> 02:30:11,159
Petra have all said the same things. I always thought

2864
02:30:11,159 --> 02:30:13,879
it was probably big Bs, because if the testicular cancer

2865
02:30:13,959 --> 02:30:15,920
rumors were true. However, I did find a bit of

2866
02:30:15,920 --> 02:30:18,159
an interesting post. I went to the Google obituary forms

2867
02:30:18,159 --> 02:30:21,440
and searched Rude. There are around twenty different forms regarding

2868
02:30:21,479 --> 02:30:23,399
his death. Four or five of them were from September

2869
02:30:23,559 --> 02:30:26,360
of ninety nine, shortly after it was officially released in June.

2870
02:30:26,600 --> 02:30:27,920
I opened all of them up and one had a

2871
02:30:27,959 --> 02:30:31,040
comment from September seventh, nineteen ninety nine. Here's a quote

2872
02:30:31,079 --> 02:30:33,840
from the September ninth, nineteen ninety nine Google forum. How

2873
02:30:33,879 --> 02:30:36,399
come the article doesn't mention anything about his pecker falling

2874
02:30:36,440 --> 02:30:39,799
off due to gangren after he shot so much viagra

2875
02:30:39,920 --> 02:30:42,120
into it to get a heart on after losing his

2876
02:30:42,319 --> 02:30:45,680
balls to testicular cancer. We can't believe I got it

2877
02:30:45,719 --> 02:30:46,559
all in one sentence.

2878
02:30:49,559 --> 02:30:50,040
Speaker 2: How about that.

2879
02:30:51,840 --> 02:30:54,440
Speaker 4: I had heard that in a way, but I hadn't heard.

2880
02:30:55,719 --> 02:30:58,239
I hadn't heard that he did it because he had

2881
02:30:58,920 --> 02:31:00,280
lost his balls due to care answer.

2882
02:31:01,079 --> 02:31:01,639
Speaker 2: I just heard that.

2883
02:31:01,799 --> 02:31:04,280
Speaker 4: I just always heard the story that he was experimenting

2884
02:31:04,319 --> 02:31:06,639
with it because he wanted to stay hard. I didn't

2885
02:31:06,680 --> 02:31:08,879
know that there was like this kind of medical component

2886
02:31:08,879 --> 02:31:09,040
to it.

2887
02:31:09,200 --> 02:31:10,159
Speaker 2: But let's put it this way.

2888
02:31:10,200 --> 02:31:13,280
Speaker 4: There's a reason there hasn't been, you know, a Dark

2889
02:31:13,360 --> 02:31:16,159
Side on Rick Rude, or an any biography on Rick Rude,

2890
02:31:16,200 --> 02:31:20,120
or anything approximating like a career documentary on that guy

2891
02:31:20,280 --> 02:31:23,520
or a life in times, because you got to touch

2892
02:31:23,559 --> 02:31:25,159
on that subject at the end, and I don't think

2893
02:31:25,200 --> 02:31:26,639
the family wants to go anywhere near it.

2894
02:31:27,239 --> 02:31:29,280
Speaker 2: So embarrassing, you know, right.

2895
02:31:29,319 --> 02:31:33,280
Speaker 4: And sad too, because he was he was pretty much

2896
02:31:33,360 --> 02:31:36,920
gearing for an ring comeback, you know, when he died,

2897
02:31:37,520 --> 02:31:39,319
he was about to have another chapter of his career.

2898
02:31:39,360 --> 02:31:42,719
He made that impactful jump to WCW from DX that

2899
02:31:42,879 --> 02:31:44,440
famous ninety was on both shows.

2900
02:31:45,159 --> 02:31:48,920
Speaker 2: Really sad. Yes, so that's that.

2901
02:31:49,040 --> 02:31:52,159
Speaker 4: Thanks for passing it along. Andrew writes Sid's Vicious viennas.

2902
02:31:52,200 --> 02:31:54,079
So I'm listening to the latest SID Tribute part six

2903
02:31:54,239 --> 02:31:55,799
and there was a shout out to Andrew who purchased

2904
02:31:55,799 --> 02:31:57,879
sid Vienna shirt. My name is Andrew, Yes, that's you.

2905
02:31:58,000 --> 02:32:00,360
I just want to say you're the man. I recently

2906
02:32:00,399 --> 02:32:02,600
purchased the Sid's Vicious Vienna shirt. Now, I don't know

2907
02:32:02,840 --> 02:32:04,680
if it's me you're talking about on the show or

2908
02:32:04,680 --> 02:32:06,159
if it's some other Andrew who got in touch with

2909
02:32:06,200 --> 02:32:07,959
you after buying the shirt, but I thought y'all might

2910
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:10,079
get a kick. And of why I got the shirt recently,

2911
02:32:10,120 --> 02:32:11,520
my wife and I made a trip to Canada to

2912
02:32:11,559 --> 02:32:13,600
see a family. A fifteen hour drive for us, so

2913
02:32:13,639 --> 02:32:15,360
I always load up on the podcast to make the

2914
02:32:15,479 --> 02:32:18,159
drive easier. For context, my wife has heard the cast before,

2915
02:32:18,159 --> 02:32:19,680
and let's just say she doesn't get it. Is this

2916
02:32:19,799 --> 02:32:22,120
the email boss that inspired the lapsed wife t shirt.

2917
02:32:22,959 --> 02:32:24,879
I think it's the same one. Okay, I might have

2918
02:32:24,879 --> 02:32:26,680
just put it in this folder. Andrew, thanks again. Yeah,

2919
02:32:26,719 --> 02:32:28,399
we passed that along. It was just too money when

2920
02:32:28,440 --> 02:32:30,440
it happened, and it was relevant to the sid journey,

2921
02:32:30,479 --> 02:32:32,639
so we read it there. But I got lapsed. Wife

2922
02:32:32,680 --> 02:32:35,040
moving a couple of units this Christmas season. Oh fuck yeah,

2923
02:32:35,319 --> 02:32:37,319
very nice to say, William Murphy, thanks for bumping up

2924
02:32:37,319 --> 02:32:40,680
the pledge. We appreciate the cake and the support mister

2925
02:32:40,799 --> 02:32:44,120
Rick bell Bottom's rights. I have often nearly prolapsed with

2926
02:32:44,239 --> 02:32:46,399
laughter with your content, and I've always wanted to not

2927
02:32:46,479 --> 02:32:48,760
be broken enough to not subscribe. However, I found that

2928
02:32:48,760 --> 02:32:50,639
I couldn't enjoy the CID episodes. I didn't think he

2929
02:32:50,719 --> 02:32:53,000
was cold enough to be Frank Frank. As for the

2930
02:32:53,120 --> 02:32:56,280
Vienna sausages, the first State WrestleMania's the first five Survivor series,

2931
02:32:56,399 --> 02:32:58,040
Summer Slam eighty one to ninety one, and one or

2932
02:32:58,040 --> 02:32:59,959
two row rumbles, you literally had a six foot eight

2933
02:33:00,120 --> 02:33:04,079
hot dog and trunks for ages. I subscribe to say

2934
02:33:04,159 --> 02:33:06,040
thanks for your content, but plead with you all stop

2935
02:33:06,120 --> 02:33:08,479
wasting time and to please just get on with making

2936
02:33:08,520 --> 02:33:12,559
the Randy Savage biopic. Everyone keeps talking about Savage, and

2937
02:33:12,639 --> 02:33:16,159
it's not like something recently happened with him that would

2938
02:33:16,159 --> 02:33:19,120
make people want it. It's just it's too serendipitous.

2939
02:33:19,159 --> 02:33:20,559
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I'm gonna have to answer

2940
02:33:20,600 --> 02:33:22,399
that weight not have to think about that. But I

2941
02:33:22,479 --> 02:33:25,399
mean it's interesting. I mean, I guess, I guess because

2942
02:33:25,399 --> 02:33:27,360
out of all of the of the rest of us

2943
02:33:27,360 --> 02:33:32,559
who've died, I mean, you know, he's He's prime beef

2944
02:33:32,799 --> 02:33:34,639
of that totally, yeah, of that era.

2945
02:33:34,879 --> 02:33:38,399
Speaker 4: If Sid is as lapsed as it gets, then Randy's

2946
02:33:38,399 --> 02:33:42,520
even a higher level, you know, right, Sid has that

2947
02:33:42,639 --> 02:33:45,680
quality of somebody that you wouldn't at first blush think

2948
02:33:46,520 --> 02:33:48,360
to do a tribute for. And that's really where we

2949
02:33:48,399 --> 02:33:52,840
can do damage. Whereas Savage. Everyone knows Brandy Savage is

2950
02:33:52,879 --> 02:33:56,760
worth saving and worth you know, examining.

2951
02:33:57,440 --> 02:34:00,239
Speaker 2: I mean, especially because when you consider he you know,

2952
02:34:00,360 --> 02:34:04,239
he died well before we even yes conceive of the show.

2953
02:34:04,159 --> 02:34:06,600
Speaker 4: Right, so we didn't have the chance to decide to

2954
02:34:06,680 --> 02:34:09,559
do a tribute show about him. We weren't even in

2955
02:34:09,639 --> 02:34:13,000
that mode yet. Unbelievable, unbelievable. I don't know, it might

2956
02:34:13,079 --> 02:34:15,799
be something, there might be an initiative. I'm in a

2957
02:34:15,840 --> 02:34:18,520
New Year's resolution kind of frame of mind. That's what's

2958
02:34:18,520 --> 02:34:20,399
always so dangerous about the holidays is you get your

2959
02:34:20,440 --> 02:34:23,319
time off, you know, and you start like fucking around

2960
02:34:23,479 --> 02:34:26,079
and your mind starts wandering and you start getting ambitious,

2961
02:34:26,559 --> 02:34:28,559
and you kind of lose it gets a little You

2962
02:34:28,639 --> 02:34:32,239
get a little loss of perspective for how little time

2963
02:34:32,280 --> 02:34:34,280
there actually is in a day in a week when

2964
02:34:34,319 --> 02:34:38,120
things ramp back up, so you like overload all these ambitions,

2965
02:34:38,120 --> 02:34:38,719
which is a good thing.

2966
02:34:38,760 --> 02:34:39,200
Speaker 2: It's healthy.

2967
02:34:39,239 --> 02:34:41,200
Speaker 4: And we love the solar system pointing us in a

2968
02:34:41,239 --> 02:34:43,879
direction that always makes it easier when people ask for

2969
02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:46,040
us to do it instead of us doing it hoping

2970
02:34:46,040 --> 02:34:48,280
people accept it, which we know they will. But yes,

2971
02:34:49,079 --> 02:34:51,040
this is one too many. This is one too many

2972
02:34:51,360 --> 02:34:54,200
random mentions of savage when we did the sid thing.

2973
02:34:54,959 --> 02:35:01,399
Uh oh, I'd subscribe to say thanks your content. Oops,

2974
02:35:01,399 --> 02:35:03,559
I almost forgot the main reason for my subscription, He writes,

2975
02:35:03,680 --> 02:35:05,399
to put it out there that the third annual Survivor

2976
02:35:05,479 --> 02:35:08,799
series is begging for the lapsed treatment. For sure, It's true.

2977
02:35:08,840 --> 02:35:11,239
Still my favorite pay per view. I'm happy to feel

2978
02:35:11,280 --> 02:35:14,280
happy and ashamed and equal measures. Well, thank you for that.

2979
02:35:14,360 --> 02:35:18,680
I always open to the entreaties and thanks for the

2980
02:35:18,760 --> 02:35:23,360
cake as well. Here is Abibe from Toronto and we're

2981
02:35:23,399 --> 02:35:25,200
going to pass this on to the boss. Abebe's a

2982
02:35:25,200 --> 02:35:27,319
long time supporter. Always great to hear from one of

2983
02:35:27,360 --> 02:35:30,280
the more astute I would say, members of the Solar system.

2984
02:35:30,319 --> 02:35:35,639
Speaker 2: What does he have for us this time? The laps

2985
02:35:35,680 --> 02:35:38,399
fan is my favorite piece of media, and I constantly

2986
02:35:38,440 --> 02:35:41,239
go back to it over and over again. I have

2987
02:35:41,280 --> 02:35:43,360
a hard time explaining this even to myself, as I

2988
02:35:43,440 --> 02:35:46,360
honestly don't have any connection to wrestling anymore. This is

2989
02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:49,760
not a work. But after buying my old wrestling buddy

2990
02:35:50,159 --> 02:35:52,520
burying my old wrestling buddy a few months ago, it

2991
02:35:52,600 --> 02:35:55,120
has become clear to me why this podcast has that

2992
02:35:55,319 --> 02:36:00,920
quot quote warm blanket feeling short. My best friend in

2993
02:36:01,000 --> 02:36:03,159
high school in middle school was a huge wrestling fanatic.

2994
02:36:03,239 --> 02:36:05,479
He would tape every raw. I was not allowed to

2995
02:36:05,559 --> 02:36:12,159
watch wrestling because Adnan al Casey Fakeness offended my father

2996
02:36:12,680 --> 02:36:16,239
so deeply, so I would rely on his tapes every

2997
02:36:16,319 --> 02:36:20,959
weekend and we would obsess over every angle. For whatever reason,

2998
02:36:21,040 --> 02:36:23,920
we thought the Rock was an Arab and so he

2999
02:36:24,000 --> 02:36:26,360
became a favorite even before he was cool. Honestly, back

3000
02:36:26,399 --> 02:36:28,840
then with that haircut, he did look like a Saudi

3001
02:36:28,920 --> 02:36:30,840
or a Kuwait. That's amazing. I never thought of that.

3002
02:36:30,920 --> 02:36:35,600
Really funny. We even tried to get buff and ripped

3003
02:36:35,680 --> 02:36:38,680
like our favorite wrestlers, although we were smart enough to

3004
02:36:38,840 --> 02:36:42,520
have other career goals unlike the retarded Bell brothers. His

3005
02:36:42,680 --> 02:36:48,799
words says direct yet Yeah. Anyway, those were some of

3006
02:36:48,840 --> 02:36:51,479
the best years of my life, even though we both

3007
02:36:51,639 --> 02:36:53,959
couldn't get women to touch us even if our life

3008
02:36:54,000 --> 02:36:57,239
depended on it. But unfortunately we grew up. I went

3009
02:36:57,319 --> 02:36:59,799
away to university. He became a dentist and a prompt

3010
02:37:00,120 --> 02:37:03,840
quote prominent figure in the community mosque. So even the

3011
02:37:03,920 --> 02:37:06,639
old wrestling tapes were taped over to delete all evidence

3012
02:37:06,959 --> 02:37:11,079
of wrestling fandom, and we lost touch up until about

3013
02:37:11,079 --> 02:37:13,280
a year ago. I got a text from him that

3014
02:37:13,360 --> 02:37:15,680
he had terminal cancer and that he was that he's

3015
02:37:15,760 --> 02:37:18,799
going to fight. He is going to inject himself a

3016
02:37:18,920 --> 02:37:22,719
lethal dose of poison. He was talking about chemotherapy. We

3017
02:37:22,840 --> 02:37:25,799
both had a good laugh about about that ridiculous McMahon

3018
02:37:26,000 --> 02:37:28,719
and w O promo. I kept in touch with him

3019
02:37:28,719 --> 02:37:33,520
this past year. He passed around from very various unsuccessful

3020
02:37:33,520 --> 02:37:36,639
treatments and began to lose hope and knew he was

3021
02:37:36,680 --> 02:37:39,520
reaching the end. A few days before he passed, he

3022
02:37:39,639 --> 02:37:43,719
mentioned to me those days we had spent watching raw

3023
02:37:43,959 --> 02:37:47,440
and eating his mom's home cooked meals were his favorite

3024
02:37:47,520 --> 02:37:50,959
days and that he and that was the last conversation

3025
02:37:51,079 --> 02:37:54,440
I had with him before he died. Wow, so now

3026
02:37:54,520 --> 02:37:57,040
my fan with the lapse fan makes a bit more sense.

3027
02:37:57,120 --> 02:38:00,319
It's two friends obsessing and making fun of a dumb

3028
02:38:00,399 --> 02:38:06,200
product that they once enjoyed. The wrestling fandom lapses with

3029
02:38:06,360 --> 02:38:09,360
the friends and the good time staying. You don't need

3030
02:38:09,399 --> 02:38:12,239
to read this email on air. Just wanted to place

3031
02:38:12,280 --> 02:38:15,040
the share, and quite frankly, the funeral was not the

3032
02:38:15,079 --> 02:38:18,920
best place to do it. I talked about our share

3033
02:38:18,959 --> 02:38:22,840
wrestling fan in that environment, I would have been judged harshly,

3034
02:38:23,000 --> 02:38:25,959
and unlike him, I'm still alive and have to live

3035
02:38:26,479 --> 02:38:31,040
with the judgment and shame. Wow. That's a hell of

3036
02:38:31,079 --> 02:38:34,360
a letter. Yeah it is, and he's right.

3037
02:38:34,479 --> 02:38:36,200
Speaker 4: We don't set out to be that, but we can

3038
02:38:36,280 --> 02:38:39,920
certainly serve that purpose for folks who needs the sin. Hitman,

3039
02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:42,040
thanks for bumping all the way up to that moat tier.

3040
02:38:42,319 --> 02:38:44,760
It's time to shout out the Moat Tier. It's been

3041
02:38:44,879 --> 02:38:49,479
too long. Look, it's not for everybody, yep, but it

3042
02:38:49,639 --> 02:38:53,920
is our richest, highest level of participation in support, and

3043
02:38:54,120 --> 02:38:56,879
it is a bunch of people that are the envy

3044
02:38:57,040 --> 02:38:59,680
of any podcast in the world that they would put

3045
02:38:59,719 --> 02:39:02,760
this cake on a monthly basis really for support. I mean,

3046
02:39:02,799 --> 02:39:04,239
there are a lot of extra goodies we try to

3047
02:39:04,280 --> 02:39:06,200
throw to the Moat Tier, but with the exception of

3048
02:39:06,200 --> 02:39:08,319
Wrestle Mamia, which of course is more than worth it,

3049
02:39:08,319 --> 02:39:12,079
it's really truly a spirit of like, no, I want

3050
02:39:12,120 --> 02:39:14,600
to I want to show the highest level of support

3051
02:39:14,760 --> 02:39:17,159
because you keep doing what you're doing, not because there's

3052
02:39:17,200 --> 02:39:19,920
something directly in it for me. Just the existence of

3053
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:22,319
the podcast is what's in it for me, and so

3054
02:39:23,040 --> 02:39:26,239
as is only appropriate, here's the honor roll of folks

3055
02:39:26,280 --> 02:39:29,680
that are way way high up in that solar system

3056
02:39:30,280 --> 02:39:34,360
in the Moat Tier. Abel Edier, Adam Graver, ad x three,

3057
02:39:34,799 --> 02:39:39,600
Aiden Kevelhan, Alan Smith, Andrew Austin, King Sliver, Brian up, Blake, Downing,

3058
02:39:39,959 --> 02:39:44,239
Brad Brandon Kaiser, Brendan Moe, Brian Blake, Brian Heinz, Chris Awsome,

3059
02:39:44,319 --> 02:39:48,479
Mike Cogan, Chris Harris, Christopher Creva, Chuck Piacio, cold Stone,

3060
02:39:48,520 --> 02:39:54,360
Steve Austin, Daniel David camon Ester, David Style, Dennis Dominic, Carrera, Hult,

3061
02:39:54,399 --> 02:39:58,799
Cogan Intern, Matt James, Irwin, John Francis, Justin Davenport, Kevin Mills,

3062
02:39:58,879 --> 02:40:03,399
Christopher Craig, Mark Daper, Martin Ferguson, Marty Longhurst, Mike Hornecker

3063
02:40:03,440 --> 02:40:06,479
and Monty Davis Junior and Nathan and Pedro Rios and

3064
02:40:06,559 --> 02:40:09,840
Pete Cosey and Peter Rustling and Robert Holtzammer and Ryan

3065
02:40:09,920 --> 02:40:12,840
Ball and Sam Fairbanks and Scott Michael Ferry and Sean

3066
02:40:12,879 --> 02:40:17,600
mcgherren Shane and Stephen Stephen Laird and Thomas Atanacio and

3067
02:40:17,760 --> 02:40:24,360
Tom and Zach Medras and Zach Geller as the Homie

3068
02:40:24,440 --> 02:40:28,040
ZV as well as Zach unbelievable.

3069
02:40:28,639 --> 02:40:29,040
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

3070
02:40:29,680 --> 02:40:32,200
Speaker 4: That that list is still is so long and solid

3071
02:40:32,239 --> 02:40:36,680
and consistent, and it's a gift, it really is. Morgan Brown,

3072
02:40:36,760 --> 02:40:38,120
thank you very much for your support.

3073
02:40:39,760 --> 02:40:41,719
Speaker 2: Mister ten ninety nine, just a guy rights.

3074
02:40:42,959 --> 02:40:44,600
Speaker 4: Is there a podcast out there that would spend two

3075
02:40:44,639 --> 02:40:47,079
months on the life and career of Cidy Uty? Absolutely not?

3076
02:40:47,319 --> 02:40:50,200
Why because on their best day they're not as good

3077
02:40:50,600 --> 02:40:56,360
as TLF mm hm. Adam writes, I lost it. Adam writes,

3078
02:40:57,040 --> 02:41:00,280
the curtain lifts on the empty stage. The gargantuan, austere,

3079
02:41:00,479 --> 02:41:03,719
blonde haired giant stands alone. The spotlight shines on a

3080
02:41:03,760 --> 02:41:07,479
giant stack of Vienna sausages. Sid then breaks into a

3081
02:41:07,559 --> 02:41:09,799
rendition of good night by someone from the music Man.

3082
02:41:10,600 --> 02:41:13,639
After he's finished, he disappears. The curtain then drops as

3083
02:41:13,680 --> 02:41:16,239
suddenly and devastatingly as a giant nineteen ninety two West

3084
02:41:16,280 --> 02:41:18,959
Memphis power bomb and scene.

3085
02:41:20,360 --> 02:41:20,600
Speaker 2: Fart.

3086
02:41:20,639 --> 02:41:24,399
Speaker 4: Donovan, thank you very much for your support. Andrew Shustek,

3087
02:41:24,479 --> 02:41:27,959
thanks for the gay Craig writes on cinemat I come

3088
02:41:28,000 --> 02:41:30,120
to you, a humble member of the Solar system with

3089
02:41:30,200 --> 02:41:33,920
an offering. After Boss giving that full fucking lapse treatment

3090
02:41:33,959 --> 02:41:37,200
to Alice, Sweet Alice, I've needed to help to contribute

3091
02:41:37,239 --> 02:41:39,959
again with either a classic movie or classic wrestler. Honestly,

3092
02:41:40,000 --> 02:41:41,479
in some ways, I'm shocked you haven't gotten to this

3093
02:41:41,559 --> 02:41:43,440
one yet. But then again, some of the language of

3094
02:41:43,440 --> 02:41:46,159
the movie can also easily dismay you, or even more morbidly,

3095
02:41:46,200 --> 02:41:48,040
I could see JP holding this one back for when

3096
02:41:48,040 --> 02:41:51,479
the director of the movie passes away. But gentlemen, Alex

3097
02:41:51,600 --> 02:41:55,520
Carris mongo blazing fucking saddle.

3098
02:41:55,680 --> 02:42:01,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Tom a list YEP, can confirm?

3099
02:42:01,200 --> 02:42:01,360
Speaker 7: Boss?

3100
02:42:01,559 --> 02:42:03,280
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? Can confirm?

3101
02:42:06,959 --> 02:42:09,600
Speaker 4: Andrew writes on cinemat Ah, the familiar warmth of a

3102
02:42:09,680 --> 02:42:12,680
film driving locals mad enough that it makes the papers.

3103
02:42:14,799 --> 02:42:18,799
Speaker 2: Ah not a good one. It's my favorite thing. Whenever

3104
02:42:18,879 --> 02:42:20,840
that happens, it just makes me happy.

3105
02:42:20,959 --> 02:42:23,479
Speaker 4: Triple Biz, thanks for the six support. We appreciate that

3106
02:42:23,600 --> 02:42:27,360
Executive producer level tier pledge. Chris Madonno same to you,

3107
02:42:27,520 --> 02:42:31,840
my friend. There's Habib coming in strong. Stephen Prescott, thank

3108
02:42:31,840 --> 02:42:34,360
you very much for the pledge. Rich Molton, thanks for

3109
02:42:34,440 --> 02:42:37,360
bumping up the support. Daniel and a point went all

3110
02:42:37,520 --> 02:42:41,280
the way up to the moat tier and thus is

3111
02:42:41,399 --> 02:42:44,440
goateed in our eyes. Ben Buck, thank you very much

3112
02:42:45,120 --> 02:42:47,239
for the cake. Andrew writes bumped up to the moat

3113
02:42:47,280 --> 02:42:48,920
tier for the holiday season and wanted to send a

3114
02:42:48,959 --> 02:42:51,440
shout out for how great UTC is. Took me about

3115
02:42:51,440 --> 02:42:53,399
eighteen months to work my way through the archives and

3116
02:42:53,479 --> 02:42:56,399
it stands alone as an incredible podcast, the perfect mix

3117
02:42:56,479 --> 02:42:59,159
of hilarious and informative on a subject I probably never

3118
02:42:59,360 --> 02:43:01,639
would have dealt did into independently. He really hits it

3119
02:43:01,719 --> 02:43:05,719
on the nose there, love it. I love that all well.

3120
02:43:06,239 --> 02:43:09,040
An obscene increase in his monthly pledge is deeply appreciate

3121
02:43:09,079 --> 02:43:10,840
it up there north of the Border, Thank you, Andrew,

3122
02:43:11,120 --> 02:43:13,360
Alex Conley, thank you very much for the pledge. Doctor

3123
02:43:13,360 --> 02:43:16,399
Wiz Pip, longtime supporter. Thanks for the cake. William Murphy,

3124
02:43:16,479 --> 02:43:18,639
great to see your support. Thank you, Sean. Thanks for

3125
02:43:19,000 --> 02:43:22,680
the increased vote of support and confidence. Louis Perez, longtime

3126
02:43:22,719 --> 02:43:26,200
supporter in the saddle again, thanks for the cake. Ion Knight,

3127
02:43:26,319 --> 02:43:28,799
thank you for the support. My friend Greg Armstrong, we

3128
02:43:28,920 --> 02:43:32,280
welcome you into the Solar System Inner Circle. Dominios, thank

3129
02:43:32,319 --> 02:43:35,840
you very much for your pledge of support. Macho Mania,

3130
02:43:36,000 --> 02:43:38,600
thank you very much for the cake. This one goes

3131
02:43:38,639 --> 02:43:41,000
out to Rick Pepe who jumped into the UTC Tire

3132
02:43:41,200 --> 02:43:45,879
executive producer. He is how about real Yoshi Hashi coming

3133
02:43:45,959 --> 02:43:49,159
in strong in joining the Solar System.

3134
02:43:49,200 --> 02:43:49,719
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

3135
02:43:49,799 --> 02:43:52,799
Speaker 4: John Zegler, longtime supporter, bumped up the pledge recently. Dav

3136
02:43:52,959 --> 02:43:55,559
thank you very much for the cake. Chris says, I'm

3137
02:43:55,559 --> 02:43:57,040
going to make this real simple. I had to pull

3138
02:43:57,079 --> 02:43:59,000
over while I was driving so there would be not

3139
02:43:59,079 --> 02:44:03,159
a crash hearing boss as Sid say, what do you

3140
02:44:03,239 --> 02:44:10,200
mean my prerogative? Don't you sit there and use your

3141
02:44:10,440 --> 02:44:14,000
fucking Connecticut words with me. I have yet to make

3142
02:44:14,040 --> 02:44:17,559
it back on the road, Christopher reports. Zach writes, I

3143
02:44:17,600 --> 02:44:19,840
can a test to a tremendous boss's enthusiasm on my

3144
02:44:19,879 --> 02:44:22,639
Hogan Giant cameo, both based on how great it is

3145
02:44:22,760 --> 02:44:24,920
and the fact he completed their quest and record time.

3146
02:44:25,040 --> 02:44:27,520
Speaker 2: This was I was part of it. I couldn't believe

3147
02:44:27,520 --> 02:44:31,600
the work the boss did. I was fucking funny, he said, No,

3148
02:44:31,719 --> 02:44:36,600
I mean that one was like, you know, that one

3149
02:44:36,879 --> 02:44:39,239
was just I was like, holy shit, that I just

3150
02:44:39,600 --> 02:44:43,079
you know, I often, if I, if I'm being completely honest,

3151
02:44:43,399 --> 02:44:48,000
usually the ones that I uh, that I either take

3152
02:44:48,040 --> 02:44:52,079
my time on or that i've kind of apologize have

3153
02:44:52,280 --> 02:44:56,239
let slip is because I don't have an immediate inspiration,

3154
02:44:56,479 --> 02:45:01,840
right and so I'm which usually you know, ends up

3155
02:45:01,959 --> 02:45:06,000
just me winging it and it's fine. It's usually you know,

3156
02:45:06,479 --> 02:45:09,200
they're always they're always satisfied. We never get any complaints,

3157
02:45:09,239 --> 02:45:12,959
that's for sure. And but that one I was like,

3158
02:45:13,360 --> 02:45:17,399
I needed to do it. I needed to do it

3159
02:45:17,559 --> 02:45:18,040
right away.

3160
02:45:19,639 --> 02:45:21,799
Speaker 4: We'll know that Zach ordered it for a Halloween treat

3161
02:45:21,840 --> 02:45:24,319
on Monday, and he got it so fast it was

3162
02:45:24,399 --> 02:45:27,079
painful holding on listening to it, holding off listening to

3163
02:45:27,159 --> 02:45:30,440
it for several days. Ah Steve King, thank you very

3164
02:45:30,520 --> 02:45:31,559
much for the increase in pledge.

3165
02:45:31,600 --> 02:45:34,440
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Daniel James Dunn, thank you for the increase.

3166
02:45:34,479 --> 02:45:34,879
It's great.

3167
02:45:35,000 --> 02:45:37,360
Speaker 4: Rosalie Kane. Great to see you in the Solar System.

3168
02:45:37,399 --> 02:45:40,319
Thanks for the money. Conrad Benjamin, we love it. Cody Davis,

3169
02:45:40,440 --> 02:45:43,040
we love it. Brian Condon, we love it all this support.

3170
02:45:44,079 --> 02:45:45,799
Adam says, sid, what do you think about people who

3171
02:45:45,879 --> 02:45:48,760
hid in the link of that fucking cast? They don't

3172
02:45:48,799 --> 02:45:55,680
know shit, cry baby. This is Scott Michael Ferry, one

3173
02:45:55,719 --> 02:45:58,639
of the big cinophiles on the Solar System, commenting, oh yes,

3174
02:45:58,719 --> 02:46:01,159
on our coverage of The Exorcis on Scory Movie Season.

3175
02:46:01,520 --> 02:46:03,680
He writes, are you sure this episode dropped on Halloween?

3176
02:46:03,719 --> 02:46:05,239
Because it sure feels like Christmas?

3177
02:46:05,319 --> 02:46:05,479
Speaker 3: To me?

3178
02:46:08,200 --> 02:46:09,840
Speaker 4: This is an all time film for me and I

3179
02:46:09,879 --> 02:46:11,760
could not have been more excited to see that episode

3180
02:46:11,840 --> 02:46:14,959
length was longer than my fucking work day, Absolutely worth

3181
02:46:15,000 --> 02:46:17,120
the weight of a full year. This is also a

3182
02:46:17,159 --> 02:46:18,760
bit of a loose connection but up here in the

3183
02:46:18,799 --> 02:46:22,159
Northeast there was a wrestling faction named Team Pazzuzu who

3184
02:46:22,200 --> 02:46:24,360
would wear that oh no shit, famous shot at the

3185
02:46:24,360 --> 02:46:26,920
Pazuzu face from the film on their knee pads and shirts,

3186
02:46:26,959 --> 02:46:29,000
even if the face was altered so you could make

3187
02:46:29,000 --> 02:46:32,440
out the words suck me, oh my god. The most

3188
02:46:32,520 --> 02:46:35,639
successful guys from Pazzuzu ended up being Santana and or tees,

3189
02:46:36,159 --> 02:46:39,319
who are proud and powerful in aw Or were what.

3190
02:46:39,399 --> 02:46:41,719
Speaker 2: Do you know? That was a connection You didn't even

3191
02:46:41,719 --> 02:46:44,200
know to point now, I had no clue. I didn't

3192
02:46:44,200 --> 02:46:46,680
even I didn't that didn't, that did not. It's kind

3193
02:46:46,680 --> 02:46:49,319
of funny that did not come across the trends across

3194
02:46:49,360 --> 02:46:54,040
the yeah at all. That never even never even came

3195
02:46:54,120 --> 02:46:56,680
up right call out. That's what makes the Solar system

3196
02:46:56,719 --> 02:46:59,799
so great, Ronnie Cathy, thanks for the support. Owen writes,

3197
02:46:59,879 --> 02:47:01,479
just up to the EP here for the Exor System.

3198
02:47:01,520 --> 02:47:04,559
Let's fucking go. That's gonna feel good, boss. When yeah,

3199
02:47:04,639 --> 02:47:08,639
you bring a movie that brings someone across the finish line, Yes, yes, yes, yes,

3200
02:47:08,719 --> 02:47:11,399
that is always that's it. You know, if I can,

3201
02:47:11,520 --> 02:47:15,959
if I can, I I I I do, I do

3202
02:47:16,200 --> 02:47:20,479
think that there is some value in in the show.

3203
02:47:20,680 --> 02:47:23,440
I think it actually, I think it touches a unique

3204
02:47:24,159 --> 02:47:27,600
aspect of the wrestling business. But I know that it's

3205
02:47:28,200 --> 02:47:30,399
you know, it's it's it can be a little hefty

3206
02:47:30,559 --> 02:47:32,600
on the wallet, and I know, but I know that

3207
02:47:32,799 --> 02:47:37,000
once you cross over, you're gonna get it. Yeah, you're

3208
02:47:37,000 --> 02:47:39,959
gonna understand. And you know, there's a movie out there

3209
02:47:40,040 --> 02:47:42,159
for everybody to make that jump.

3210
02:47:42,040 --> 02:47:45,559
Speaker 4: Especially now considering how robust the archive is at this point. Yeah,

3211
02:47:45,600 --> 02:47:49,079
something's in there, something's in there for you. Vernon Wright's on.

3212
02:47:49,840 --> 02:47:54,079
Speaker 2: The one hundred and thirty six movies as a video, Yes, And.

3213
02:47:54,079 --> 02:47:57,200
Speaker 4: Wrestle Mommy keeps going, Oh, I mean yeah, everyone got

3214
02:47:57,280 --> 02:47:59,479
a taste when Mama Sorrow set in for the unwrapping

3215
02:47:59,600 --> 02:48:02,319
on the free feed. But if you're wondering what Wrestle

3216
02:48:02,360 --> 02:48:05,440
Mommy is like, now you know. And Vernon writes my

3217
02:48:05,520 --> 02:48:08,680
favorite Mama Sorrow bit moarning JP about the danger of wrestling.

3218
02:48:09,000 --> 02:48:11,479
You have a daughter, better never do one of those matches.

3219
02:48:16,319 --> 02:48:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, oh, I love that. Also when she says colored,

3220
02:48:19,479 --> 02:48:22,319
JP replied bleached. I don't know why I was dying

3221
02:48:22,360 --> 02:48:31,000
at that. Oh, Mama, I'm Marianne Mama sorrow.

3222
02:48:31,559 --> 02:48:33,639
Speaker 4: Does that dog tell you when he wants to go out?

3223
02:48:34,559 --> 02:48:38,360
Oh my god, JP, No, Mama sorrow. Okay, he's just

3224
02:48:38,440 --> 02:48:42,760
looking for the sun. Her wholesomeness, he says, is untouched.

3225
02:48:43,319 --> 02:48:47,120
Speaker 2: It's it's you know, well, yeah, go for it. It's

3226
02:48:47,319 --> 02:48:52,319
it's a So for some reason, she just has this

3227
02:48:52,799 --> 02:48:58,760
weird fear and instinct that if the dog is doing

3228
02:48:58,920 --> 02:49:04,840
anything but sleeping, it must need to go to the bathroom. Ah,

3229
02:49:05,760 --> 02:49:07,559
it must need to go out. I'm like, no, this

3230
02:49:07,760 --> 02:49:11,319
dog goes out three times a day, all right, it knows,

3231
02:49:11,920 --> 02:49:14,319
you know, it's it's very I wouldn't say, I'm not

3232
02:49:14,360 --> 02:49:16,360
going to say that that he is one hundred percent

3233
02:49:17,360 --> 02:49:20,600
uh you know, a house broken. But I'm gonna say

3234
02:49:20,639 --> 02:49:23,680
he is like eighty percent house broken, all right, And

3235
02:49:23,799 --> 02:49:27,399
he knows that we walk three times a day, and

3236
02:49:27,559 --> 02:49:30,559
so he's not you know, it's because he's walking around,

3237
02:49:30,680 --> 02:49:35,280
doesn't mean he's a fucking bathroom. Now, Now you don't

3238
02:49:35,280 --> 02:49:39,000
find yourself having to repeat that, do you? Oh my god,

3239
02:49:41,120 --> 02:49:44,040
over and over every time every time they come here,

3240
02:49:45,239 --> 02:49:46,760
every time I every time I bring the dog up

3241
02:49:46,799 --> 02:49:51,079
to their house, it's the same thing. Does he need

3242
02:49:51,120 --> 02:49:52,559
to go out? Is that poop.

3243
02:49:53,639 --> 02:49:56,639
Speaker 4: H No, Mom, wasn't you worried during the unwrappening that

3244
02:49:56,680 --> 02:49:57,760
there was dog shit somewhere?

3245
02:49:58,360 --> 02:50:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was like it wasn't dog shit, it was

3246
02:50:00,280 --> 02:50:02,120
something else. No, it was I think it was like

3247
02:50:02,719 --> 02:50:07,840
tree chocolate, yes, trets, Yeah, chocolate. Good thing to eat

3248
02:50:07,879 --> 02:50:11,760
that Dan the Man Noble pumping up that pledge. You

3249
02:50:11,799 --> 02:50:14,799
can never forget Dan Man. He's out there, he's he's uh,

3250
02:50:15,079 --> 02:50:18,239
he's a fucking trooper. He sends me messages on Instagram

3251
02:50:18,280 --> 02:50:19,159
which cracked me up.

3252
02:50:19,399 --> 02:50:23,600
Speaker 4: Ah, bran Erickson jumping up to the moat tier quite recently.

3253
02:50:23,680 --> 02:50:25,600
We thank you very much for that, my friend, a

3254
02:50:25,760 --> 02:50:26,600
new world cricket.

3255
02:50:26,680 --> 02:50:27,040
Speaker 5: What do you know?

3256
02:50:27,239 --> 02:50:29,799
Speaker 4: New World order cricket pledging to the coach heres. How

3257
02:50:29,840 --> 02:50:33,040
about Luke from Manchester who heard us talking about blobby

3258
02:50:33,399 --> 02:50:35,120
because there was concerned about a blobby push?

3259
02:50:36,120 --> 02:50:38,639
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah remember that it was a while ago.

3260
02:50:39,079 --> 02:50:41,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, hi, chaps, just thought i'd share on listening to

3261
02:50:41,559 --> 02:50:43,879
Indiana Jones and the last Crusade episode.

3262
02:50:43,479 --> 02:50:45,440
Speaker 2: Of UTC, which is episode fifty six, so he's in

3263
02:50:45,479 --> 02:50:46,639
the archives. That's a while ago.

3264
02:50:46,799 --> 02:50:46,959
Speaker 5: Yeah.

3265
02:50:47,120 --> 02:50:48,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have a wonderful time watching a clip of

3266
02:50:48,760 --> 02:50:50,319
Pat wrote to take on the British legend that is

3267
02:50:50,399 --> 02:50:52,879
mister Blobby. You even posed the question how many kids

3268
02:50:52,920 --> 02:50:55,520
had nightmares of mister Blobby to answer a question. He

3269
02:50:55,559 --> 02:50:57,680
was a British icon. He was a hero of mine

3270
02:50:57,680 --> 02:50:59,239
as a small child, and I even had a Mister

3271
02:50:59,280 --> 02:51:02,159
Blobby teddy growing up. I still have this original teddy today,

3272
02:51:02,239 --> 02:51:04,639
thirty years later, and I have the fondest memories of him,

3273
02:51:04,799 --> 02:51:08,239
including owning multiple Mister Blobby VHS tapes highlighting his numerous

3274
02:51:08,280 --> 02:51:11,120
hilarious entics. I realized this is over two years after

3275
02:51:11,159 --> 02:51:13,479
this episode dropped, but I couldn't resist in answering the

3276
02:51:13,520 --> 02:51:15,159
call of the co chairs and sharing with you how

3277
02:51:15,239 --> 02:51:17,879
loved he really was. Never in my wildest dreams that

3278
02:51:17,959 --> 02:51:20,079
I think I would ever hear Lapstogan nervously utter the

3279
02:51:20,120 --> 02:51:21,680
words mister Blobby.

3280
02:51:21,760 --> 02:51:27,559
Speaker 2: Push dude, what do you do? Blobby? What amazing brother?

3281
02:51:27,600 --> 02:51:32,040
Speaker 4: Your loyally p patron Luke from Manchester. Unbelievable. This blobby

3282
02:51:32,079 --> 02:51:33,399
thing has a hold on these Brits.

3283
02:51:33,920 --> 02:51:39,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I love it. Okay.

3284
02:51:39,399 --> 02:51:39,520
Speaker 7: Uh.

3285
02:51:42,000 --> 02:51:45,239
Speaker 4: This great member of the Solar system always changes its name,

3286
02:51:45,319 --> 02:51:47,920
so I never really know what to call him. It's

3287
02:51:47,959 --> 02:51:51,399
it's Cliff okay, one time, he's going by County Rhodes.

3288
02:51:52,840 --> 02:51:55,399
He wrote, talk about Wrestle Mamia. I watched A Vivar's

3289
02:51:55,399 --> 02:51:57,600
series ninety six on pay per view at my grandmother's house,

3290
02:51:57,639 --> 02:51:59,239
and on the way home, I kept trying to justify

3291
02:51:59,280 --> 02:52:01,120
how sid won the idol in My mom, who didn't

3292
02:52:01,120 --> 02:52:03,399
give a fuck about wrestling, kept exclaiming, but he cheated,

3293
02:52:03,600 --> 02:52:04,159
he cheated.

3294
02:52:05,079 --> 02:52:09,799
Speaker 2: That is the greatest thing. That's it. That's it. There.

3295
02:52:09,879 --> 02:52:13,120
There there is such a you know, there's there's a

3296
02:52:15,600 --> 02:52:18,040
I'm not gonna say for every mom, but but for

3297
02:52:18,719 --> 02:52:23,200
for a good a good number of moms. There is

3298
02:52:23,399 --> 02:52:30,280
this this this kind of a threshold that they that

3299
02:52:30,360 --> 02:52:36,280
they cross and they they start you know, they they're

3300
02:52:36,360 --> 02:52:38,600
they're there. They get sucked into the to the story

3301
02:52:38,719 --> 02:52:41,719
and the character of it like it like a kid does,

3302
02:52:43,079 --> 02:52:48,479
and they you know, they start reacting. You know, if

3303
02:52:48,520 --> 02:52:50,399
you thought, if you think about these things like no,

3304
02:52:50,600 --> 02:52:52,399
like none of the stuff really makes sense. You know,

3305
02:52:52,440 --> 02:52:54,719
we've talked about it, the idea that well, someone throws

3306
02:52:54,719 --> 02:52:56,440
you in the ropes, why do you go with it?

3307
02:52:57,680 --> 02:52:59,440
Why do you why do you feel the need to

3308
02:52:59,559 --> 02:53:01,600
run like you're not you know, I could if if

3309
02:53:01,639 --> 02:53:03,280
someone threw me into the ropes and I and I

3310
02:53:03,399 --> 02:53:07,079
wanted to stop on staff. Absolutely, you know, but you

3311
02:53:07,159 --> 02:53:09,600
get you get sucked into it they I mean, i'd

3312
02:53:09,639 --> 02:53:12,120
imagine also because the wrestlers do a very good job

3313
02:53:12,200 --> 02:53:14,360
at making it seem like it's actually happening. Yeah, that's

3314
02:53:14,360 --> 02:53:17,120
actually a great point, Like you're not going to catch

3315
02:53:17,319 --> 02:53:20,639
the mom getting sucked in to a match between guys

3316
02:53:20,680 --> 02:53:23,120
who suck like. That's a tribute to the guys that

3317
02:53:23,239 --> 02:53:26,120
somebody who knows they're not into it and thinks it's

3318
02:53:26,120 --> 02:53:29,479
bullshit ends up getting kind of mad when a guy

3319
02:53:29,600 --> 02:53:33,799
cheats to win, right right, that means you're doing it well. Yep.

3320
02:53:34,200 --> 02:53:36,079
Speaker 4: Tony Van Silva talked about that, and I thought a

3321
02:53:36,079 --> 02:53:38,239
really a refreshing way. He was like, you know, yes, yeah,

3322
02:53:38,239 --> 02:53:39,920
everybody knows to put on, but it's not about that.

3323
02:53:40,520 --> 02:53:44,319
It's about allowing the person's emotions next to you to

3324
02:53:44,399 --> 02:53:48,040
bleed into you so you can have this experience. Yes,

3325
02:53:48,639 --> 02:53:50,440
so you can, you can share in the emotion in

3326
02:53:50,479 --> 02:53:52,000
the room, and no matter what caused it and the

3327
02:53:52,040 --> 02:53:54,719
authenticity of what caused it, that is that's less important

3328
02:53:55,680 --> 02:53:58,440
than the experience of sharing and everyone cheering or everyone

3329
02:53:58,520 --> 02:54:02,159
booing for something that's intoxicating. Whether what you're cheering or

3330
02:54:02,200 --> 02:54:05,680
booing is actual conflict or not is immaterial, which I

3331
02:54:05,719 --> 02:54:08,280
thought was really interesting because his mind went there right away.

3332
02:54:09,159 --> 02:54:10,959
He had no trouble answering the question why do these

3333
02:54:10,959 --> 02:54:12,600
people come here if they didn't think it was real?

3334
02:54:14,040 --> 02:54:15,879
Ryan Warner, thank you very much for the pledge. Welcome

3335
02:54:15,879 --> 02:54:19,360
to the ept or Zachary Cole Yes, Felix n Yes,

3336
02:54:19,920 --> 02:54:22,040
Sean Wright. Sid as champion could be comparable to a

3337
02:54:22,079 --> 02:54:25,079
popular sitcom character who isn't as valuable unless part of

3338
02:54:25,079 --> 02:54:26,040
an ensemble cast.

3339
02:54:26,120 --> 02:54:27,159
Speaker 2: I like that, that's true.

3340
02:54:27,479 --> 02:54:30,680
Speaker 4: M An example would be Joey from Friends, popular with fans,

3341
02:54:30,879 --> 02:54:35,559
has noticeable catchphrase, notable catchphrase, and Garner's laughs from the audience. However,

3342
02:54:35,600 --> 02:54:38,479
when presented as the a plot or given more sincere storylines,

3343
02:54:38,520 --> 02:54:41,040
they are more of a miss. This is further accentuated

3344
02:54:41,079 --> 02:54:42,680
with the spin off sitcom of Joey. It was a

3345
02:54:42,719 --> 02:54:45,639
big flop because ultimately, despite his popularity, the character slash

3346
02:54:45,680 --> 02:54:48,680
performer is limited. This is the case with Sid popular,

3347
02:54:48,799 --> 02:54:51,520
great look, memorable catchphrase, but when the show is meant

3348
02:54:51,520 --> 02:54:54,559
to revolve around him as limitations are further accentuated. This

3349
02:54:54,719 --> 02:54:57,879
is often a struggle for monster and spectacle champions. Undertaker's

3350
02:54:57,920 --> 02:55:00,120
reigns are hindered by the limitations of his character to

3351
02:55:00,200 --> 02:55:03,360
appear vulnerable and to sell challengers as potential threats. SID

3352
02:55:03,479 --> 02:55:05,840
never evolved his promos beyond the shout Leaden style of

3353
02:55:05,879 --> 02:55:07,920
the eighties and early nineties, and exception would be the

3354
02:55:07,920 --> 02:55:11,280
scripted Nietzsche promo. Yeah, that's the Nietzsche prom that's the

3355
02:55:11,840 --> 02:55:12,840
empty arena.

3356
02:55:14,079 --> 02:55:14,280
Speaker 2: One.

3357
02:55:14,319 --> 02:55:18,000
Speaker 4: Before Royal Roman ninety seven, Brett, Sean and Austin provided

3358
02:55:18,040 --> 02:55:20,239
a more dynamic, grounded promo style for the time, and

3359
02:55:20,319 --> 02:55:23,079
Sid stood out for the wrong reasons. The ensemble cast

3360
02:55:23,159 --> 02:55:25,120
mentality of the main event scene in ninety six to

3361
02:55:25,200 --> 02:55:27,879
ninety seven hid some of Sid's limitations, but it became

3362
02:55:27,959 --> 02:55:29,719
clear that once he was given the A plot, he

3363
02:55:29,879 --> 02:55:33,680
was no longer the man. That's true, he couldn't be

3364
02:55:33,719 --> 02:55:36,799
the man. It was just hilarious because his catch phrase

3365
02:55:37,000 --> 02:55:38,159
was the man who's the man?

3366
02:55:39,000 --> 02:55:39,159
Speaker 2: Right.

3367
02:55:39,719 --> 02:55:42,280
Speaker 4: Paully cautiously writes kind of harvest a case of viennas

3368
02:55:42,319 --> 02:55:45,040
from the grocery store. Later, one of the great things

3369
02:55:45,079 --> 02:55:47,000
you said, Boss, throughout the course of the SID tribute

3370
02:55:47,120 --> 02:55:54,719
was do you grow viennas grop and Paul also writes, Geez,

3371
02:55:54,760 --> 02:55:56,920
I remember Sid doing promos over his theme sounding a

3372
02:55:56,959 --> 02:55:59,959
lot cooler and more menacing than they actually were. Nostalgia,

3373
02:56:00,120 --> 02:56:02,719
I guess with Sid Brett Taker and pilled up HBK

3374
02:56:02,879 --> 02:56:05,760
slurring every word that wasn't We're wrestling Federation the main

3375
02:56:05,799 --> 02:56:07,879
event promos in late ninety sixth early ninety seven word

3376
02:56:07,959 --> 02:56:11,239
dire at times. Yeah, yeah, Always wild to see people

3377
02:56:11,319 --> 02:56:15,879
revisit what they thought was great stuff and realized perhaps

3378
02:56:15,920 --> 02:56:19,879
it wasn't all that great. Kaypo wants the uh the

3379
02:56:19,959 --> 02:56:21,040
pumpkin seed recipe.

3380
02:56:21,639 --> 02:56:22,200
Speaker 2: I sent him.

3381
02:56:23,120 --> 02:56:25,399
Speaker 4: Oh this is way back, I think, I think I

3382
02:56:25,559 --> 02:56:27,959
think I sent him to He also wants the audio

3383
02:56:28,040 --> 02:56:30,680
file of John Spencer laughing send him that memory?

3384
02:56:31,600 --> 02:56:33,159
Speaker 2: Did I send him that? I don't know. Did you

3385
02:56:33,280 --> 02:56:36,280
have it? I do have it to hear it. Who's

3386
02:56:36,319 --> 02:56:37,639
John Spencer? As you're looking for it?

3387
02:56:38,360 --> 02:56:38,639
Speaker 7: Ha ha.

3388
02:56:42,000 --> 02:56:44,520
Speaker 2: Hit it again, ha ha ha.

3389
02:56:47,639 --> 02:56:50,600
Speaker 5: He sent my church a case of Vienna sausages and

3390
02:56:50,719 --> 02:56:55,479
I sent him an autograph picture. You sent my church

3391
02:56:55,559 --> 02:56:58,319
a case of Vienna sausages and I sent him an

3392
02:56:58,319 --> 02:56:59,600
autograph picture.

3393
02:57:02,079 --> 02:57:02,639
Speaker 3: Doing live.

3394
02:57:13,760 --> 02:57:21,159
Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty five, John Happy New Year doing light

3395
02:57:21,479 --> 02:57:44,760
love like fucking lie right, how about it? How about it?

3396
02:57:44,879 --> 02:57:51,159
You bitch ass motherfuckers? You already know what it is? Yeah?

3397
02:57:53,280 --> 02:57:55,840
Can I hear John Spencer again again?

3398
02:57:57,360 --> 02:57:57,760
Speaker 7: Ha ha ha?

3399
02:58:00,079 --> 02:58:04,280
Speaker 2: Normal guy? Who's John Spencer? Why did he come up

3400
02:58:04,319 --> 02:58:08,600
under the cinemat when we did the Rock? When we

3401
02:58:08,680 --> 02:58:11,440
did the Rock? So John Spencer, you know, he's a great,

3402
02:58:11,600 --> 02:58:18,559
wonderful actor, that guy of that guy's okay? And he

3403
02:58:19,799 --> 02:58:23,120
he did this interview ship. I forget if it was

3404
02:58:24,280 --> 02:58:26,639
I forget if it was on There was one on CNN,

3405
02:58:26,719 --> 02:58:29,600
but this might have been Fresh Air, I don't remember.

3406
02:58:30,239 --> 02:58:33,639
And he just, you know, he was talking about he's

3407
02:58:33,680 --> 02:58:37,559
a very genuine individual, he's a great person. He's talking

3408
02:58:37,600 --> 02:58:40,079
about addiction. You know, he's struggled with addiction in his

3409
02:58:40,120 --> 02:58:43,079
whole life. And and then he just did this fucking

3410
02:58:43,200 --> 02:58:53,959
weird ass. Lack was like, what is this? I love

3411
02:58:54,040 --> 02:58:59,319
those so much? Oh God, wow, that was a riot there.

3412
02:59:00,040 --> 02:59:03,719
Speaker 4: I wasn't ready for that. Darren Hughes, thank you very

3413
02:59:03,799 --> 02:59:09,440
much for the pledge. We appreciate the cake. Hy Daddy

3414
02:59:09,600 --> 02:59:13,920
just writes on an episode it's sid one word. Viennasen

3415
02:59:19,959 --> 02:59:26,159
brother Joe writes co chairs. Sid is the real life

3416
02:59:26,159 --> 02:59:29,559
equivalent of Biff hand and from Back to the Future. Yes,

3417
02:59:30,000 --> 02:59:32,399
a few examples, and I'm sure there are more. Once

3418
02:59:32,479 --> 02:59:35,760
and for good this is the quote from SID. Take

3419
02:59:35,840 --> 02:59:38,319
like a tree and get out of here, Biff. Yeah,

3420
02:59:39,600 --> 02:59:41,760
work right, Midget also rights here in Wisconsin. At least

3421
02:59:41,760 --> 02:59:44,600
in print, harvest is used versus hunt. So we're talking

3422
02:59:44,600 --> 02:59:48,079
about Sid is a hunter. Oh yes, talking about harvest.

3423
02:59:48,200 --> 02:59:52,159
Yet they use the word hunter not harvester. Okay, great

3424
02:59:52,200 --> 02:59:55,639
clarification there, Jeremy, thanks very much for the for the sport.

3425
02:59:55,760 --> 03:00:00,559
We appreciate the pledge on Patreon. Neil rights after this

3426
03:00:00,639 --> 03:00:02,040
episode of Total NonStop SID.

3427
03:00:02,200 --> 03:00:02,760
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

3428
03:00:03,520 --> 03:00:05,760
Speaker 4: I think Diesel is still the worst funny, It's still

3429
03:00:05,760 --> 03:00:08,040
the worst WWF champion, but Sydney has a claim as well.

3430
03:00:08,159 --> 03:00:09,719
At least with Diesel, there was an attempt to put

3431
03:00:09,760 --> 03:00:11,079
him in the middle of the action, but SID is

3432
03:00:11,079 --> 03:00:13,479
a complete afterthought. I remember Jim Ross saying that at

3433
03:00:13,479 --> 03:00:15,360
this time that instead of pushing one guy, they wanted

3434
03:00:15,360 --> 03:00:18,079
a multipolar main event scene with Brett sean undertaker in

3435
03:00:18,120 --> 03:00:20,280
SID exchanging the belt, and Sid feels like the distant

3436
03:00:20,399 --> 03:00:25,200
number four on that list would you agree, bost Man, Uh,

3437
03:00:25,440 --> 03:00:26,440
distint number four?

3438
03:00:29,200 --> 03:00:29,639
Speaker 2: I don't know.

3439
03:00:29,840 --> 03:00:31,520
Speaker 4: I would say number four. I'm not a distant thought.

3440
03:00:31,520 --> 03:00:36,680
I feel like him and Undertaker were pretty interchangeable in

3441
03:00:36,799 --> 03:00:38,200
terms of the world title picture.

3442
03:00:37,959 --> 03:00:40,799
Speaker 2: At the time. I don't know.

3443
03:00:41,440 --> 03:00:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe him and Brett were pretty was a

3444
03:00:43,719 --> 03:00:48,680
pretty good program in late ninety six. Yes, yes, yeah,

3445
03:00:49,000 --> 03:00:54,079
maybe Carlo right guarding it's not like it's it. I

3446
03:00:54,079 --> 03:00:56,319
don't know why, but for me, it's requiring more thought,

3447
03:00:57,639 --> 03:01:00,760
a deeper thought. Yeah, process, So it's like a Sid.

3448
03:01:02,079 --> 03:01:04,520
Sid by beating Sean at Survivor's Series ninety six, launched

3449
03:01:04,559 --> 03:01:07,719
the whole idea of the world title picture being up

3450
03:01:07,760 --> 03:01:10,680
for grabs. It kind of revolved around him, right, he

3451
03:01:10,799 --> 03:01:14,159
was a catalyst. I'm not saying he was the one that,

3452
03:01:14,280 --> 03:01:16,520
you know, could have really supported the position. I think

3453
03:01:16,559 --> 03:01:18,600
we made it very clear and established that he was

3454
03:01:18,879 --> 03:01:20,600
never going to be a longer term champion. It really

3455
03:01:20,639 --> 03:01:23,079
didn't have the tools to be. But it's kind of

3456
03:01:23,079 --> 03:01:26,000
weird that this chaos was caused by the fact that

3457
03:01:26,040 --> 03:01:27,520
they put the belt on Sid and then all of

3458
03:01:27,520 --> 03:01:29,959
a sudden it was kind of like up for grabs.

3459
03:01:29,959 --> 03:01:32,200
Who could be considered the top man in the company

3460
03:01:32,200 --> 03:01:34,120
because of Stags your world champ. Everyone else has a

3461
03:01:34,159 --> 03:01:36,360
claim to. But he's the champ, and he's the reason

3462
03:01:36,440 --> 03:01:38,760
for it being that way at the top of the

3463
03:01:38,840 --> 03:01:43,479
card and not just all revolving around Shawn Michaels. Carla

3464
03:01:43,520 --> 03:01:47,120
writes regarding harvesting, the place described sounded like a game farm.

3465
03:01:48,000 --> 03:01:50,920
Is Sid's hunting again. They keep wild animals inside high

3466
03:01:50,959 --> 03:01:53,799
fenced land. These animals were grown and harvested like a farm,

3467
03:01:53,920 --> 03:01:57,159
people paying money to costplay hunting. Harvesting is also used

3468
03:01:57,200 --> 03:01:59,200
by some as a politically correct term to describe hunting

3469
03:01:59,280 --> 03:02:02,120
unless violent or socially acceptable language. I use the word

3470
03:02:02,239 --> 03:02:05,000
kill when I kill, not because I'm blood thirsty, because

3471
03:02:05,040 --> 03:02:06,079
it's honest and accurate.

3472
03:02:06,799 --> 03:02:09,079
Speaker 2: That's right. Oh, we can vote for that, Brent Clark.

3473
03:02:09,239 --> 03:02:10,799
Welcome to the Executive producer tier.

3474
03:02:11,159 --> 03:02:13,920
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Jordan writes a new holiday tradition

3475
03:02:14,000 --> 03:02:16,520
to the co chairman of the Only Podcast Best Enjoyed, Reclellly,

3476
03:02:16,840 --> 03:02:18,600
Hope this finds you well. I'm writing to share some

3477
03:02:18,680 --> 03:02:20,280
good news that will hopefully bring some joy to the

3478
03:02:20,319 --> 03:02:23,120
Solar System's collective heart. Last Christmas, my brother, who is

3479
03:02:23,200 --> 03:02:24,799
not a fan, was kind enough to gift me, a

3480
03:02:24,920 --> 03:02:27,440
nearly thirty year old man, two tickets to the WW

3481
03:02:27,559 --> 03:02:29,840
Holiday Tour in Baltimore. I've roped picked up with my

3482
03:02:30,000 --> 03:02:31,799
parents into going with me again this year as a

3483
03:02:31,840 --> 03:02:34,239
sort of new holiday tradition, at least for me. We're

3484
03:02:34,280 --> 03:02:38,440
planning to dine at Sabatinos beforehand. That's the move right there.

3485
03:02:38,559 --> 03:02:40,520
Speaker 2: That's it. That's exactly what you do.

3486
03:02:41,120 --> 03:02:44,159
Speaker 4: Stroke of genius, as it seems the only appropriate choice

3487
03:02:44,200 --> 03:02:46,479
other than maybe Jimmy Seafood. Anyway, just wanted to say

3488
03:02:46,520 --> 03:02:48,399
that even in the grim darkness of the year twenty

3489
03:02:48,559 --> 03:02:51,120
twenty four, we can start something new and hope for

3490
03:02:51,600 --> 03:02:56,120
a brighter future. Mike writes Hbka's commentary on Sid's matches,

3491
03:02:56,159 --> 03:02:58,760
it buried Alive. It's time in Main's thirteen. It took

3492
03:02:58,840 --> 03:03:02,319
TLF to highlight how weird that is. He always takes

3493
03:03:02,479 --> 03:03:11,159
focus away from Sid. Yep, yep, that was always the thing. Okay,

3494
03:03:11,159 --> 03:03:14,559
I'm talking about taxidermy deer heads because Sid had one

3495
03:03:14,639 --> 03:03:16,879
on his wall. Daniel wants us to know that he

3496
03:03:16,959 --> 03:03:19,639
inherited two taxidermy deer heads through marriage, and these are

3497
03:03:19,680 --> 03:03:23,559
the most creepy, ghoulish, harrowing, night Merrish items in my

3498
03:03:23,680 --> 03:03:25,760
house extraordinarily uncomfortable.

3499
03:03:25,840 --> 03:03:28,120
Speaker 2: He writes, Yeah, I agree, and I don't think you

3500
03:03:28,200 --> 03:03:28,479
need that.

3501
03:03:28,879 --> 03:03:32,000
Speaker 4: Says these two deerheads eyes follow me around our living room.

3502
03:03:32,079 --> 03:03:35,159
The whole concept is alien and disturbing to me.

3503
03:03:35,440 --> 03:03:39,600
Speaker 2: Ooh, thought of Yeah, I don't find that okay.

3504
03:03:39,760 --> 03:03:44,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely stops you in your tracks. Scott writes thought

3505
03:03:44,280 --> 03:03:46,559
in the SID ninety six Survivors series entrance. It's funny

3506
03:03:46,600 --> 03:03:48,959
that entrance, a stone cold killer, fist pumping fans who

3507
03:03:48,959 --> 03:03:50,920
want him to kill. How simple it was, even with

3508
03:03:51,000 --> 03:03:53,600
the fireworks. How that entrance sticks with me more than

3509
03:03:53,639 --> 03:03:56,520
the Dog and Pony Show WrestleMania entrances. Maybe the man

3510
03:03:56,600 --> 03:03:58,799
makes the entrance another the extra stuff. Maybe it used

3511
03:03:58,840 --> 03:04:01,440
to be better, so true. I mean, think about the

3512
03:04:01,440 --> 03:04:03,399
effort they put in these Mania entrances, and by the

3513
03:04:03,440 --> 03:04:05,760
time night two is over, you maybe remember one of them?

3514
03:04:06,120 --> 03:04:09,520
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean, yeah, and hardly. I mean, And you

3515
03:04:09,559 --> 03:04:14,040
know what's funny is that they go above and beyond

3516
03:04:14,159 --> 03:04:21,079
with costumes and and uh uh, you know, lighting and

3517
03:04:21,319 --> 03:04:26,120
music and pyro and all that stuff. Nothing's better than

3518
03:04:26,159 --> 03:04:30,760
Sean Michael's on the zip line, right, you know, remember

3519
03:04:30,840 --> 03:04:33,280
that shit way more than I remember anything else.

3520
03:04:34,000 --> 03:04:37,719
Speaker 4: So true, you know, it's anything else. You can do it,

3521
03:04:37,959 --> 03:04:40,639
but just do it for one person or two people

3522
03:04:40,920 --> 03:04:41,879
so it's memorable.

3523
03:04:42,840 --> 03:04:43,200
Speaker 2: I don't.

3524
03:04:43,440 --> 03:04:45,440
Speaker 4: I'm getting a little annoyed with like this, fuck it,

3525
03:04:45,520 --> 03:04:48,079
WrestleMania becoming like prom for these geeks.

3526
03:04:48,120 --> 03:04:50,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Oh, totally is. It's exactly

3527
03:04:51,000 --> 03:04:51,760
what it is. It's prom.

3528
03:04:52,000 --> 03:04:54,840
Speaker 4: Just it shows them to be so needy for like

3529
03:04:55,399 --> 03:04:59,959
dress up. You know, stop stop, like not everybody needs

3530
03:05:00,040 --> 03:05:05,120
a fucking marching band, ridiculous. It's because they're fucking assholes.

3531
03:05:05,520 --> 03:05:09,479
It's just because they're they expect something out of wrestling

3532
03:05:09,520 --> 03:05:11,840
that wrestling does not give to you, no matter how

3533
03:05:11,920 --> 03:05:15,719
much is spent on you and how you know, gussied up,

3534
03:05:15,760 --> 03:05:18,120
you feel it's like, that's not wrestling. Wrestling is not

3535
03:05:19,200 --> 03:05:21,799
something that's going to make you feel like a fucking

3536
03:05:22,559 --> 03:05:23,520
mythical superhero.

3537
03:05:24,239 --> 03:05:27,920
Speaker 2: Well, wrestling is well more importantly, maybe it'll make you

3538
03:05:28,000 --> 03:05:30,159
feel like it if you're in the ring, but it's

3539
03:05:30,200 --> 03:05:31,760
not meant that for the fans.

3540
03:05:31,959 --> 03:05:34,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of what I mean. It's you not

3541
03:05:34,879 --> 03:05:36,719
to come off that way. You're supposed to be there

3542
03:05:36,840 --> 03:05:39,399
to do business. You're there to fucking kill somebody. And

3543
03:05:39,520 --> 03:05:42,559
if you have to go through a twelve step choreographed

3544
03:05:43,399 --> 03:05:46,760
fucking gimmick on the way to the ring, I just

3545
03:05:46,879 --> 03:05:47,280
it takes it.

3546
03:05:47,440 --> 03:05:47,799
Speaker 2: I don't know.

3547
03:05:48,600 --> 03:05:50,600
Speaker 4: You have to be a special kind of athlete. And

3548
03:05:50,680 --> 03:05:52,639
there are some combat athletes who can do this, who

3549
03:05:52,719 --> 03:05:56,120
can have that kind of showmanship and still convince the

3550
03:05:56,200 --> 03:05:58,840
public that they're they're there to kick ass. In wrestling

3551
03:05:58,879 --> 03:06:02,000
where it's fake, should be a higher premium on preserving

3552
03:06:02,079 --> 03:06:06,399
that intensity, yep, because you can't. You can't like Prince

3553
03:06:07,879 --> 03:06:10,000
and I see him come out and just do a

3554
03:06:10,239 --> 03:06:12,479
fucking dance routine and then whip somebody's ass in the

3555
03:06:12,520 --> 03:06:15,280
boxing ring and no one can question the dancing routine

3556
03:06:15,319 --> 03:06:16,479
because you whipped ass, you know.

3557
03:06:17,799 --> 03:06:23,479
Speaker 2: But I don't know that's what it is. So what

3558
03:06:23,559 --> 03:06:23,959
do you want?

3559
03:06:25,680 --> 03:06:27,520
Speaker 4: Jeff says The amount of time I spend thinking about

3560
03:06:27,520 --> 03:06:30,120
a case of Vienna sausages in exchange for an autograph picture,

3561
03:06:30,360 --> 03:06:31,159
That's all he writes.

3562
03:06:31,600 --> 03:06:34,440
Speaker 2: It's so true. I can't I walk around thinking about

3563
03:06:34,440 --> 03:06:38,079
it all the time. Yeah, it's so weird because I

3564
03:06:38,159 --> 03:06:41,319
don't want, you know, I give my auto autograph picture.

3565
03:06:43,000 --> 03:06:47,000
I give myself an autograph picture. Let me tell you

3566
03:06:47,440 --> 03:06:50,520
what I did. Was I sent? I sent Saint Mary's Cathedral.

3567
03:06:51,159 --> 03:06:55,159
I said, I'm one hundred and fifty kens of Vienna Sausages.

3568
03:06:55,280 --> 03:07:04,760
And I set myself an autograph picture. I sent myself

3569
03:07:04,840 --> 03:07:08,040
an autograph picture. Is that what he said? I sent myself?

3570
03:07:11,559 --> 03:07:20,600
Now I set myself auto rap picture? What brother? I

3571
03:07:20,639 --> 03:07:24,239
didn't say anything? Why not?

3572
03:07:28,639 --> 03:07:47,079
Speaker 1: Why Fan Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the

3573
03:07:47,159 --> 03:07:50,159
boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan.

3574
03:07:50,520 --> 03:07:52,399
Speaker 6: Just because we posted a new episode of The Lapsed

3575
03:07:52,440 --> 03:07:54,440
Fan doesn't mean we are done with the campaign to

3576
03:07:54,520 --> 03:07:57,319
take what is rightfully ours. If you haven't yet, vote

3577
03:07:57,360 --> 03:07:59,600
for The Lapsed Fan to win the award for Wrestling

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3579
03:08:02,600 --> 03:08:03,920
the link and do the right thing.

3580
03:08:18,440 --> 03:08:22,319
Speaker 1: He's a Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno

3581
03:08:22,760 --> 03:08:23,520
and JP.

3582
03:08:23,440 --> 03:08:27,239
Speaker 4: Sorrow Laps Fan. Marv writes Vienna Sausages with Filipino breakfast

3583
03:08:27,319 --> 03:08:29,520
pretty good during a hangover. There you go, my god,

3584
03:08:30,040 --> 03:08:35,399
A vote for consuming it is it elis rights. Having

3585
03:08:35,440 --> 03:08:37,280
the SID tribute so close to the Terry Funk tribute

3586
03:08:37,360 --> 03:08:39,920
is so serendipitous. Both sides of the coin of being

3587
03:08:39,920 --> 03:08:41,840
a pro wrestler, one guy who gave everything he had

3588
03:08:41,879 --> 03:08:43,280
to the business, one who took as much as he

3589
03:08:43,319 --> 03:08:45,760
could from it while doing almost the absolute least he could.

3590
03:08:45,840 --> 03:08:48,920
Both equally carny in their own way. Yeah, he gave everything.

3591
03:08:49,159 --> 03:08:50,879
Terry Funk gave everything he had to the business, but

3592
03:08:51,000 --> 03:08:54,159
he was very smart about not letting it take advantage

3593
03:08:54,159 --> 03:08:58,040
of him. Sid was the SID took that to the extreme.

3594
03:08:58,120 --> 03:09:00,559
But they were actually kind of kindred spirit in that way.

3595
03:09:02,280 --> 03:09:05,040
They took off, you know, Sid and Funk no matter

3596
03:09:05,079 --> 03:09:07,319
how big the opportunity, they were looking for a way

3597
03:09:07,360 --> 03:09:11,840
out as soon as they got there. Louis writes, Hey, guys,

3598
03:09:11,879 --> 03:09:13,239
I wouldn't say I had much of an opinion one

3599
03:09:13,239 --> 03:09:14,719
way or the other on Sid. He's just kind of there.

3600
03:09:14,920 --> 03:09:16,879
But for whatever reason, your Tribute to Sid episodes have

3601
03:09:16,959 --> 03:09:19,360
brought about this warm nostalgia for Sid and the nineteen

3602
03:09:19,399 --> 03:09:21,879
ninety seven WWA product in general. Despite not living through

3603
03:09:21,920 --> 03:09:24,239
this period as a fan anyways, the series has been

3604
03:09:24,280 --> 03:09:26,520
some of your best work. Finished strong, and we're watching

3605
03:09:26,559 --> 03:09:27,920
some of the pay per views of that era and

3606
03:09:28,479 --> 03:09:30,520
re listening to your nineteen ninety seven journey In between

3607
03:09:30,520 --> 03:09:32,600
the SID Tribute casts My thoughts have gone on a

3608
03:09:32,680 --> 03:09:35,520
wild tangent imagining what might have happened if Sid struck

3609
03:09:35,559 --> 03:09:37,799
around a little longer into the Attitude era. Would love

3610
03:09:37,840 --> 03:09:39,559
to get your thoughts on what you picture it being

3611
03:09:39,680 --> 03:09:41,799
like if Sid was amongst that early ninety eight boom

3612
03:09:42,000 --> 03:09:45,239
an Austin versus Sid program. Sid was the higher power,

3613
03:09:45,760 --> 03:09:47,959
or fuck put him in the nation of domination. One

3614
03:09:48,040 --> 03:09:50,920
fantasy that did occur was old school brown outfit mankind

3615
03:09:51,000 --> 03:09:53,079
teaming with Sid, who would lean far more into his

3616
03:09:53,120 --> 03:09:56,159
psycho gimmick. Somehow this would have been This would have

3617
03:09:56,239 --> 03:09:59,559
to be money. Maybe Sid could switch to brown trunks too.

3618
03:10:00,399 --> 03:10:02,600
Oh god, I suppose he could find those trunks from

3619
03:10:02,600 --> 03:10:04,840
where he had a poopoo explosion at WrestleMania a few

3620
03:10:04,879 --> 03:10:07,200
months promer. Anyway, all the butt stuff, et cetera, Louis,

3621
03:10:07,360 --> 03:10:08,600
how about that boss Sid?

3622
03:10:09,280 --> 03:10:11,680
Speaker 2: Anyway, all the butt stuff that's the best.

3623
03:10:11,760 --> 03:10:14,479
Speaker 4: Gets it way out of the way. How about Sid

3624
03:10:14,639 --> 03:10:15,399
in the Attitude era.

3625
03:10:17,520 --> 03:10:20,159
Speaker 2: I just don't think. I think I don't think he

3626
03:10:20,159 --> 03:10:23,040
would have fit. Really, I just I think it was

3627
03:10:23,120 --> 03:10:27,159
too I think it was too manic. I think it

3628
03:10:27,360 --> 03:10:32,680
was too ball to the wall. I just don't think

3629
03:10:32,799 --> 03:10:35,239
he would have fit into that. I think I think

3630
03:10:35,319 --> 03:10:40,520
he's a good segue into it. I just don't think

3631
03:10:40,639 --> 03:10:46,040
he would have. I mean, I I don't know how

3632
03:10:46,079 --> 03:10:49,479
I feel about and like you know, and especially at

3633
03:10:49,520 --> 03:10:54,239
that time, he he just was not a good promoes

3634
03:10:54,680 --> 03:10:56,040
Like you know, you look at you look at some

3635
03:10:56,079 --> 03:10:59,520
of the earlier stuff, and you know, like that ninety

3636
03:10:59,559 --> 03:11:02,479
two run, he's he's not making silly shit at all,

3637
03:11:02,600 --> 03:11:08,840
like he's making sense, and by ninety six he's he's it's, it's,

3638
03:11:09,079 --> 03:11:14,120
it's he's fallen down the road. Yes, And uh, I

3639
03:11:14,200 --> 03:11:17,079
don't know, I don't know, I don't I don't know

3640
03:11:17,280 --> 03:11:21,280
if I just I don't I don't know if he

3641
03:11:21,319 --> 03:11:22,799
would have really fit. I don't know if he would

3642
03:11:22,799 --> 03:11:24,159
have been a good compliment to it.

3643
03:11:24,600 --> 03:11:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right. There's a lot there's a

3644
03:11:27,280 --> 03:11:32,600
lot more acting and being handed a script in the

3645
03:11:32,639 --> 03:11:34,760
Attitude era than Sid would have been comfortable with.

3646
03:11:34,879 --> 03:11:37,840
Speaker 2: I think, I think, I mean, I also think too,

3647
03:11:37,959 --> 03:11:40,000
I think you know, Sid in the Attitude era is

3648
03:11:40,920 --> 03:11:43,000
what we saw in W CW. I don't think he

3649
03:11:43,040 --> 03:11:46,239
would have you know, I think he would have been

3650
03:11:47,440 --> 03:11:58,200
exposed more because everything was so uh, I mean, uh,

3651
03:11:59,120 --> 03:12:01,319
it just it just felt so much more like just

3652
03:12:01,520 --> 03:12:03,600
throwing shit against the wall and seeing what happens, see

3653
03:12:03,600 --> 03:12:04,000
what sticks.

3654
03:12:04,040 --> 03:12:06,200
Speaker 4: And I honestly could see Russo looking at Sid in

3655
03:12:06,520 --> 03:12:09,479
ninety eight WWF or ninety nine WWF and just like

3656
03:12:09,559 --> 03:12:14,120
coming up with some really stupid, like goofy like comedy

3657
03:12:14,159 --> 03:12:15,520
sne make like a priest or something.

3658
03:12:16,120 --> 03:12:16,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

3659
03:12:16,319 --> 03:12:17,920
Speaker 4: I don't know if you get a whole rapackaging, but

3660
03:12:18,680 --> 03:12:21,399
he would lean into the kind of things that make

3661
03:12:21,440 --> 03:12:25,719
Sid ludicrous to the point where I don't think he'd

3662
03:12:25,719 --> 03:12:29,159
be a very effective, like world title challenging opponent in

3663
03:12:29,239 --> 03:12:31,799
that structure. I think he would very easily, very quickly

3664
03:12:31,879 --> 03:12:33,680
go from like what gold dust was in ninety five

3665
03:12:33,760 --> 03:12:35,639
to what gold dust was in ninety eight, you know,

3666
03:12:35,840 --> 03:12:40,440
just like totally totally turning up the aspects of the

3667
03:12:40,479 --> 03:12:45,920
gimmick that are much better when subtly and minimally deployed

3668
03:12:46,200 --> 03:12:49,360
and exposed, and just like cranking it up to where

3669
03:12:49,360 --> 03:12:53,360
he'd probably he'd probably do some like incredibly cheesy thing

3670
03:12:53,399 --> 03:12:56,399
where like he killed someone in cold blood or you know,

3671
03:12:56,959 --> 03:12:59,159
or accidentally hit someone with a car because he's so

3672
03:12:59,280 --> 03:13:01,559
crazy or something. Right, it'd just be I don't know,

3673
03:13:01,959 --> 03:13:03,559
I think It would just call upon him to act

3674
03:13:03,600 --> 03:13:05,399
too much, is what I'm trying to say. And we

3675
03:13:05,559 --> 03:13:08,319
know from the sid journey that you cannot hand that manuscript,

3676
03:13:08,719 --> 03:13:11,079
not that he doesn't want to do, you can't. He

3677
03:13:11,079 --> 03:13:14,520
wouldn't be being capable of carrying those fifteen minute dogging

3678
03:13:14,600 --> 03:13:17,239
segments that was required to be a top guy in

3679
03:13:17,319 --> 03:13:20,920
that era. WWF Legion AOD, thank you very much for

3680
03:13:21,000 --> 03:13:23,440
the pledge. We appreciate the sport. Andrew Trudeau, we see you,

3681
03:13:23,520 --> 03:13:26,680
and thanks for bumping up what you send your co

3682
03:13:26,840 --> 03:13:33,120
chairman's way. Jack recognizes the very dangerous question, so what.

3683
03:13:33,280 --> 03:13:34,120
Speaker 2: Is the kick? Carlo?

3684
03:13:34,200 --> 03:13:36,239
Speaker 4: I have to tell you, I don't remember what that was.

3685
03:13:36,280 --> 03:13:38,239
I'm glad it's an important question, but I don't quite

3686
03:13:38,319 --> 03:13:40,680
remember what I referred to always hate that in them

3687
03:13:40,719 --> 03:13:41,520
feedback shows.

3688
03:13:41,879 --> 03:13:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you can remind me. This one's from Josh Boss.

3689
03:13:44,440 --> 03:13:49,280
Why don't you share what Josh has to say? Right Josh,

3690
03:13:50,399 --> 03:13:53,200
Greetings from the Adirondacks. I'm hoping to get this in

3691
03:13:53,360 --> 03:13:55,840
by the Fall mail Bag twenty twenty four, but if not,

3692
03:13:56,000 --> 03:14:01,280
it's all good. Firstly, my dad is a huge lapsed

3693
03:14:01,319 --> 03:14:05,559
fan wow, or at least lapsed by proxies. It's actually

3694
03:14:05,639 --> 03:14:09,159
the second lapse thing he is. The first is a

3695
03:14:09,239 --> 03:14:13,600
lapsed Catholic. His priest was Irish like my father. When

3696
03:14:13,639 --> 03:14:16,239
they changed the priest with a Middle Eastern one who

3697
03:14:16,280 --> 03:14:22,000
spoke very broken English that he could not understand. However,

3698
03:14:22,159 --> 03:14:28,479
Dad played it like lapsed vince. I'm not being racist, truly,

3699
03:14:28,559 --> 03:14:31,600
he isn't. It's the whole body and bread thing. He

3700
03:14:31,840 --> 03:14:35,479
just couldn't believe saying magic words turns the water into

3701
03:14:35,559 --> 03:14:40,120
the body of Jesus, to which I told him I'd

3702
03:14:40,200 --> 03:14:43,559
rather not believe that every Sunday I'm eating over two

3703
03:14:43,639 --> 03:14:48,000
thousand year old Jesus jerky. He laughed, and I knew

3704
03:14:48,000 --> 03:14:50,959
at that point there were no sacred cows for him.

3705
03:14:51,639 --> 03:14:55,200
He could handle that fucking cast. My dad isn't like

3706
03:14:55,239 --> 03:14:58,159
a lot of the dads in the Lapse fan solar system.

3707
03:14:58,719 --> 03:15:01,520
I've been a fan since I was like four years old.

3708
03:15:01,760 --> 03:15:04,200
By the time Mains three came around, I knew it

3709
03:15:04,319 --> 03:15:08,200
wasn't real. It was predetermined. Since then, he's followed me

3710
03:15:08,360 --> 03:15:11,760
down the ringside rabbit hole in the in the ensuing

3711
03:15:11,879 --> 03:15:14,760
so far forty years being an Andrea fan, I broke

3712
03:15:14,879 --> 03:15:18,079
him in on an episode where laft Fins told Andre

3713
03:15:18,520 --> 03:15:21,319
to do some top rope move and called Andrea the Giant,

3714
03:15:21,680 --> 03:15:27,520
called him Andrea the Giant cunt. That one got me,

3715
03:15:30,639 --> 03:15:33,360
Andrea the Giant Cunt. He's been a fan ever since.

3716
03:15:34,360 --> 03:15:36,399
I've only gone to one wrestling event in my life.

3717
03:15:36,479 --> 03:15:39,000
It was a Monday night raw in Lake Placid, New York.

3718
03:15:39,280 --> 03:15:41,280
Lake Placid was home to the nineteen thirty two and

3719
03:15:41,360 --> 03:15:44,680
nineteen eighty Winter Olympics, in fifteen minutes from my hometown

3720
03:15:44,840 --> 03:15:51,639
of Saraenac. S Yeah, Saraenacy Lake Brother would this is

3721
03:15:51,719 --> 03:15:54,840
the raw? Amed Johnson turned on the on the Taker

3722
03:15:54,920 --> 03:15:57,799
and joined the nation. Oh you know who I was exciting?

3723
03:15:58,120 --> 03:16:04,840
You know well, said Sarahnac Undertaking. Yeah, damn it. As

3724
03:16:04,879 --> 03:16:06,360
soon as I came out of my mouth, I knew

3725
03:16:06,360 --> 03:16:08,719
you were going to get it. Well, you know mentioned

3726
03:16:08,799 --> 03:16:11,000
Undertaker right there for that. If he hadn't mentioned Undertaker,

3727
03:16:11,000 --> 03:16:12,639
I probably wouldn't have got it, wouldn't have got him.

3728
03:16:14,600 --> 03:16:17,559
It was exciting, even though the seats were way near

3729
03:16:17,600 --> 03:16:20,959
the back. Still I got to witness Pillman, Austin Taker,

3730
03:16:21,159 --> 03:16:25,920
gold Dust Heart Foundation all during the Attitude era. The

3731
03:16:26,000 --> 03:16:28,760
youth group I was I was with said we had

3732
03:16:28,840 --> 03:16:31,399
to go early, so I didn't get I didn't. I

3733
03:16:31,479 --> 03:16:33,159
didn't get to see the dark match at the end

3734
03:16:33,760 --> 03:16:38,840
one day. Like laps Jets Jesse, I went back. I'll

3735
03:16:38,879 --> 03:16:41,520
go back until then. I have you two and the

3736
03:16:41,559 --> 03:16:43,559
Solar System excellent.

3737
03:16:44,120 --> 03:16:49,159
Speaker 4: Love it, great stuff, love that inspired Missive There Kaypo's

3738
03:16:49,200 --> 03:16:53,120
back and he's got an email entitled Sid to your

3739
03:16:53,159 --> 03:16:55,399
co chairs. First of all, I want to commend you

3740
03:16:55,440 --> 03:16:57,760
both for an amazing tribute Psycho Sid and his accomplishments

3741
03:16:57,799 --> 03:16:59,760
as well as blunders and pro wrestling. I wanted to

3742
03:16:59,799 --> 03:17:02,360
share my memories of Sid Udi. Hopefully the email isn't

3743
03:17:02,399 --> 03:17:05,360
too long. It's not started watching wrestling full time in

3744
03:17:05,440 --> 03:17:07,799
June of nineteen ninety eight, and it was strictly WCW

3745
03:17:07,920 --> 03:17:10,280
because my mom wouldn't let me watch WWF because of boobs.

3746
03:17:13,000 --> 03:17:13,399
Speaker 2: But I knew.

3747
03:17:14,319 --> 03:17:16,159
Speaker 4: But I knew of wrestling from my older cousins and

3748
03:17:16,200 --> 03:17:18,879
playing sn e s. They had WWF, Super WrestleMania, and

3749
03:17:18,920 --> 03:17:21,120
I always played a Sid Justice. Did you ever play

3750
03:17:21,239 --> 03:17:22,719
Sid Justice and Super WrestleMania?

3751
03:17:22,760 --> 03:17:27,120
Speaker 2: Boss? I don't. I didn't have I didn't have a

3752
03:17:27,280 --> 03:17:31,280
Super Super Nintendo. Was he in Monday Night Raw or

3753
03:17:31,399 --> 03:17:34,120
Royal Rumble. No, he was gone by Oh my god,

3754
03:17:35,079 --> 03:17:36,399
that was my first time. I think the only one

3755
03:17:36,440 --> 03:17:39,520
he was in was it was the Super WrestleMania for SUPERNW.

3756
03:17:39,600 --> 03:17:41,280
Speaker 4: Is gonna say it's it right? Was he in the

3757
03:17:42,479 --> 03:17:47,879
the nes Wrestling Challenge for the Cage?

3758
03:17:48,559 --> 03:17:51,360
Speaker 2: No he was, Yeah, he was in Steel Cage Challenge

3759
03:17:51,680 --> 03:17:52,719
A challenge, Okay, yes he was.

3760
03:17:53,680 --> 03:17:55,799
Speaker 4: When I got into wrestling, I rented every video that

3761
03:17:55,879 --> 03:17:58,399
my local Blockbuster had and saw Sid in various tapes.

3762
03:17:58,520 --> 03:18:00,000
He was in a couple of w W tapes they had,

3763
03:18:00,079 --> 03:18:02,040
and of course Rumble ninety two and WrestleMania eight, and

3764
03:18:02,120 --> 03:18:05,200
I acquired WrestleMania eleven nine, I think he says eleven

3765
03:18:05,479 --> 03:18:07,920
eleven from another video store. So I saw Sid there too.

3766
03:18:08,280 --> 03:18:10,760
Top that with buying a Wow magazine in early nineteen

3767
03:18:10,840 --> 03:18:12,799
ninety nine and there was a full page picture of

3768
03:18:12,920 --> 03:18:15,280
Sid from MECW. So Sid was always around, but I

3769
03:18:15,360 --> 03:18:16,920
never saw him wrestle live until he came back to

3770
03:18:17,079 --> 03:18:19,440
WCW in nineteen ninety nine. Now, and he came back,

3771
03:18:19,479 --> 03:18:20,840
I thought it was kind of a goof. He was

3772
03:18:20,920 --> 03:18:23,639
Randy Savage's lackey and probably the driver of the White Hummer.

3773
03:18:23,680 --> 03:18:26,280
But his match against Sting at Roadewild nineteen ninety nine

3774
03:18:26,360 --> 03:18:27,040
made me a believer.

3775
03:18:27,159 --> 03:18:27,719
Speaker 2: Wow, there you go.

3776
03:18:28,360 --> 03:18:29,879
Speaker 4: Sid thought that match was going to be a huge

3777
03:18:30,000 --> 03:18:32,000
career changer for him, going over Sting clean and no

3778
03:18:32,040 --> 03:18:32,719
one gave a fuck.

3779
03:18:32,879 --> 03:18:34,159
Speaker 2: Pekai Bomer gave a fuck.

3780
03:18:34,399 --> 03:18:36,600
Speaker 4: I still remember the finishing sequence, which has something about

3781
03:18:36,600 --> 03:18:38,719
its place in my wrestling memory. Sting hits a super

3782
03:18:38,760 --> 03:18:41,079
blacks on Sid and said just no. Selse gets back

3783
03:18:41,120 --> 03:18:43,079
to his feet, puts himself in the corner. Sting hits

3784
03:18:43,120 --> 03:18:45,360
two Stinger splashes, and when he goes for the third one,

3785
03:18:45,520 --> 03:18:47,120
Sid catches him with a goozle and give him a

3786
03:18:47,159 --> 03:18:48,159
choke slam and pins him clean.

3787
03:18:48,239 --> 03:18:48,360
Speaker 2: Yes.

3788
03:18:48,399 --> 03:18:51,760
Speaker 4: Pos, that was on the Millennium Man tape. Yes, I

3789
03:18:51,840 --> 03:18:54,079
remember Servanni just being in shock and as a Sting fan,

3790
03:18:54,399 --> 03:18:55,879
I couldn't believe it. I mean that was Sting he

3791
03:18:55,959 --> 03:18:56,600
beat decisively.

3792
03:18:56,680 --> 03:18:57,200
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

3793
03:18:57,399 --> 03:18:59,120
Speaker 4: I thought he ended up getting a raw deal, even

3794
03:18:59,159 --> 03:19:00,760
though he held the w state be titled for a bit.

3795
03:19:00,959 --> 03:19:02,760
Just seemed like he was there and never really showcase.

3796
03:19:02,840 --> 03:19:02,879
Speaker 7: No.

3797
03:19:02,879 --> 03:19:05,959
Speaker 4: A little bit of a nitro deal actues, which could

3798
03:19:06,000 --> 03:19:07,959
also be as fault as you guys expertly uncovered his

3799
03:19:08,000 --> 03:19:11,200
transgressions in the wrestling business throughout the years. Another thing

3800
03:19:11,239 --> 03:19:13,000
I remembered, based off some of the stores you Guys

3801
03:19:13,079 --> 03:19:16,319
Unearthed stories, rather you Guys unearthed, was that there was

3802
03:19:16,360 --> 03:19:19,760
a forgettable backstage segment from WCW Fallbrowl nineteen ninety eight

3803
03:19:19,920 --> 03:19:21,639
in which Scott Steiner is trying to get out of

3804
03:19:21,680 --> 03:19:24,079
a match with his brother Rick by feigning an injury.

3805
03:19:24,239 --> 03:19:25,879
He put a small band aid on the inside of

3806
03:19:25,920 --> 03:19:28,159
his bicep and another small band aid on the outside

3807
03:19:28,200 --> 03:19:30,079
of his bicep and said he couldn't wrestle Rick because

3808
03:19:30,079 --> 03:19:32,200
he was hurt. JJ Dillon didn't buy it and made

3809
03:19:32,239 --> 03:19:34,920
Scott wrestle his brother or be barred from WCW for life.

3810
03:19:35,079 --> 03:19:37,440
When you Guys mentioned the squeegee confrontation Sid had with

3811
03:19:37,559 --> 03:19:39,920
Mike Graham where he couldn't fight because of his injury

3812
03:19:39,959 --> 03:19:42,159
and the band aid on his arm, I immediately thought

3813
03:19:42,200 --> 03:19:44,440
of this segment, which was probably a rib on Sid. Yes,

3814
03:19:44,479 --> 03:19:47,719
I think we even touched on that. Yeah, it was definitely.

3815
03:19:48,079 --> 03:19:50,000
I think Mike Graham was an agent for ww at

3816
03:19:50,040 --> 03:19:52,200
the times, so that makes sense. One more story, but

3817
03:19:52,239 --> 03:19:53,799
this one was a little not safe for work. Okay,

3818
03:19:53,920 --> 03:19:55,159
let's do it, brother.

3819
03:19:55,280 --> 03:19:56,200
Speaker 2: I had various tapes in.

3820
03:19:56,200 --> 03:19:58,600
Speaker 4: My library that were paused at a certain time when

3821
03:19:58,639 --> 03:20:00,760
there was a bikini segment or something like that, I,

3822
03:20:00,840 --> 03:20:03,680
as a horny adolescent, could master bait two. One of

3823
03:20:03,719 --> 03:20:06,719
these tapes was WW hollywn Havoc nineteen ninety nine. At

3824
03:20:06,760 --> 03:20:09,040
this event, Medusa walks out in a bikini to promote

3825
03:20:09,040 --> 03:20:12,040
the WW Nitro cologne that Bobby Heenon describes as smelling

3826
03:20:12,159 --> 03:20:13,000
like the men's room at.

3827
03:20:12,959 --> 03:20:16,079
Speaker 2: The Newark Airport. Well, hey, you know what happens.

3828
03:20:16,319 --> 03:20:20,760
Speaker 4: Imagine being the cologne licensee and watching the WW show

3829
03:20:20,799 --> 03:20:23,360
to see her cologne advertise, and Bobby Heenon calls it that.

3830
03:20:24,040 --> 03:20:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine that would have been a little rough.

3831
03:20:25,879 --> 03:20:28,239
Speaker 4: I would wank to Medusa walking out when and when

3832
03:20:28,280 --> 03:20:30,120
I was done, I'd rewind it to the beginning of

3833
03:20:30,159 --> 03:20:32,680
the segment for the next time. But sometimes I rewind

3834
03:20:32,760 --> 03:20:34,799
too much and get the segment right before, which was

3835
03:20:34,840 --> 03:20:38,280
Sidy yelling let it bleed after getting oh god, busted

3836
03:20:38,319 --> 03:20:40,879
open by Goldberg backstage. If the tape started there the

3837
03:20:40,959 --> 03:20:43,200
next time, it was an instant boner killer.

3838
03:20:43,399 --> 03:20:43,959
Speaker 2: That's funny.

3839
03:20:44,559 --> 03:20:46,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd imagine that all the ways to remember that

3840
03:20:47,520 --> 03:20:50,959
infamous Cid Goldberg Halloween havoc. That's how Kayper remembers it. Anyway,

3841
03:20:50,959 --> 03:20:52,559
thank you guys for all you do. I'll have another

3842
03:20:52,600 --> 03:20:54,920
emailk qued up based in the fiftieth Big State Time

3843
03:20:55,319 --> 03:20:57,479
fiftieth State Big Time Wrestling, But this one is all

3844
03:20:57,479 --> 03:20:59,280
about the Master and the ruler of the world when

3845
03:20:59,319 --> 03:21:02,719
we look forward to them. Such a great wrestling history

3846
03:21:02,719 --> 03:21:08,399
and tradition in Hawaii. Undertold, undertold for sure. Yeah, so

3847
03:21:08,479 --> 03:21:11,159
Clint points out a good one. We were wondering why

3848
03:21:12,000 --> 03:21:14,639
Arne would settle his lawsuit against sid for the stabbing

3849
03:21:14,959 --> 03:21:17,799
all those years later in nineteen ninety seven. Yeah, so,

3850
03:21:17,920 --> 03:21:19,360
if you think about it, arn was just a few

3851
03:21:19,360 --> 03:21:22,000
months away from announcing his retirement when the lawsuit was settled.

3852
03:21:22,280 --> 03:21:23,719
I think he and his wife just had a second

3853
03:21:23,760 --> 03:21:26,079
baby too. I remember him talking about the anxiety he

3854
03:21:26,120 --> 03:21:28,000
was feeling about having to be retired with the two kids.

3855
03:21:28,200 --> 03:21:30,399
He wasn't even forty yet. Maybe he saw his financial

3856
03:21:30,399 --> 03:21:32,639
situation was changing and realized the lawsuit wasn't the best

3857
03:21:32,680 --> 03:21:34,399
thing to spend his money on. It's a good guess,

3858
03:21:34,959 --> 03:21:36,760
really good guess. If he'd say a word about it,

3859
03:21:36,840 --> 03:21:39,719
we would know for sure. But he doesn't, so that's that.

3860
03:21:39,879 --> 03:21:41,559
Josh Beckham, thank you very much for the pledge. We

3861
03:21:41,600 --> 03:21:46,600
appreciate the support. Mark Beer, thank you very much. Steve writes,

3862
03:21:46,639 --> 03:21:48,360
I wonder if what Vince loved most about the CID

3863
03:21:48,440 --> 03:21:51,040
stabbing is that arn Anderson left Vince for Turner and

3864
03:21:51,159 --> 03:21:56,559
his punishment was being stabbed. Also, Boss would love Fantagio.

3865
03:21:56,680 --> 03:21:59,000
That was the wrestler who was the magician we talked

3866
03:21:59,040 --> 03:22:03,360
briefly about during his WF tryout. His liquid flames set

3867
03:22:03,520 --> 03:22:06,239
the gorilla position to blaze and almost burnt Bruce Pritchard

3868
03:22:06,280 --> 03:22:08,319
to death in the process. Yes, I have heard Bruce

3869
03:22:08,399 --> 03:22:11,799
tell that story on his podcast, which is fucking hilarious.

3870
03:22:12,760 --> 03:22:16,360
So close did Tom sellek like a pervert on Friends?

3871
03:22:16,399 --> 03:22:21,120
He thinks he did, Sean Wright Sid being Yeah, I

3872
03:22:21,159 --> 03:22:23,200
don't remember Sid being a salesman as the real life

3873
03:22:23,200 --> 03:22:25,239
equivalent of the coin toss scene from No Country for

3874
03:22:25,319 --> 03:22:31,319
Old Men, Zach writes, twenty five minute, Mark Jack spoke

3875
03:22:31,360 --> 03:22:33,840
words that were pulled from my deepest, deepest truth. I

3876
03:22:33,959 --> 03:22:36,639
watch movies, TV shows, read books and magazines from the

3877
03:22:36,680 --> 03:22:39,000
seventies through mid nineties because I wish I was my

3878
03:22:39,200 --> 03:22:42,280
age during those times not a kid my age. I

3879
03:22:42,319 --> 03:22:44,840
could drive those cars brand new. I could be in

3880
03:22:44,920 --> 03:22:46,799
my current job at in a time with no fucking

3881
03:22:46,840 --> 03:22:48,639
internet or cell phones. I could eat all the food

3882
03:22:48,879 --> 03:22:50,799
without the constant kilt and doubt of how bad it

3883
03:22:50,879 --> 03:22:51,159
all is.

3884
03:22:51,479 --> 03:22:51,920
Speaker 2: Subpoint.

3885
03:22:52,000 --> 03:22:54,159
Speaker 4: I know McDonald's is shitty food, but damn do I

3886
03:22:54,200 --> 03:22:56,399
miss a time when you could go to McDonald's or gasp,

3887
03:22:56,639 --> 03:22:59,159
take your child there and not seem like your low

3888
03:22:59,239 --> 03:23:02,360
brow or being a negligent to your and their health.

3889
03:23:02,879 --> 03:23:04,959
I could go to every Monday Night Ron nineteen ninety three.

3890
03:23:05,280 --> 03:23:07,399
I would be at every classic pay per view. There

3891
03:23:07,399 --> 03:23:09,959
are thousands of scenes and images from those movies and

3892
03:23:10,000 --> 03:23:12,559
shows I just want to teleport into, most of which

3893
03:23:12,600 --> 03:23:15,280
are mundane. Sure, there are lots of great things about now,

3894
03:23:15,360 --> 03:23:17,200
but damn does it look like it used to be better?

3895
03:23:17,639 --> 03:23:19,559
Speaker 2: That is the point. I don't know.

3896
03:23:19,719 --> 03:23:22,239
Speaker 4: It's not because I want to be young again, It's

3897
03:23:22,319 --> 03:23:27,440
because I want to be an adult. Then looks like, Yes,

3898
03:23:27,719 --> 03:23:30,319
it looks like a great fucking deal without all the

3899
03:23:30,399 --> 03:23:34,360
bullshit on fire highlights. Thank you very much for your pledge,

3900
03:23:34,440 --> 03:23:40,280
Brian Wright. Welcome into the inner circle. Yeah that's true.

3901
03:23:40,319 --> 03:23:40,920
This is a great one.

3902
03:23:40,959 --> 03:23:41,479
Speaker 2: From Habib.

3903
03:23:41,719 --> 03:23:44,840
Speaker 4: Honestly, what's missing in the Muffler discussion on the Greed

3904
03:23:44,920 --> 03:23:47,760
pay per view episode Muffler is when you stick toilet

3905
03:23:47,799 --> 03:23:49,680
paper up your ass crack and go out for wrestle

3906
03:23:50,200 --> 03:23:53,399
so that you don't leak ass sweat through your trunks

3907
03:23:53,440 --> 03:23:53,959
like Dusty.

3908
03:23:54,600 --> 03:23:56,079
Speaker 2: I don't see what the problem is. Talk about how

3909
03:23:56,120 --> 03:24:00,600
Dusty wrestled with no underwear on genes.

3910
03:24:00,719 --> 03:24:05,200
Speaker 4: Agreed, but how he points out. What's being missed in

3911
03:24:05,280 --> 03:24:08,479
this discussion is the need to have wide adoption of bedets.

3912
03:24:08,840 --> 03:24:12,559
Speaker 2: Boss. What's your experience with bidets? If any o them?

3913
03:24:12,639 --> 03:24:16,200
Oh saw stream up the ass, love it? If there's

3914
03:24:16,239 --> 03:24:20,719
one hotel you're using it. I I listen, we have

3915
03:24:21,000 --> 03:24:22,760
we we you know we got we got a tushy.

3916
03:24:22,879 --> 03:24:25,280
You know what I didn't know? Oh my god. Yeah,

3917
03:24:25,479 --> 03:24:28,360
it's like basically a you can you know, it's not

3918
03:24:28,440 --> 03:24:30,920
like a full blown but you can just install it

3919
03:24:30,959 --> 03:24:37,239
in your own toilet and it's absolutely remarkable. I can't listen, Honestly,

3920
03:24:37,840 --> 03:24:39,200
I can't take a ship with that one.

3921
03:24:39,239 --> 03:24:39,719
Speaker 7: Now. Wow.

3922
03:24:40,319 --> 03:24:43,440
Speaker 2: I just I don't feel I don't feel clean. I

3923
03:24:43,559 --> 03:24:47,399
do not feel clean. I was very wary of it

3924
03:24:47,440 --> 03:24:48,680
when we got it. I was like, I don't know.

3925
03:24:48,840 --> 03:24:51,920
I don't think I need I want something kind of

3926
03:24:52,719 --> 03:24:59,760
spraying up my anus. But but it is a very

3927
03:24:59,799 --> 03:25:05,200
se satisfying thing. I did not I did not know

3928
03:25:05,319 --> 03:25:07,600
that was coming. I really I think you could tell

3929
03:25:07,680 --> 03:25:10,079
like one story when you stayed in Belgium about how

3930
03:25:10,120 --> 03:25:13,200
you used to use it. Now, No, I mean I'd

3931
03:25:13,239 --> 03:25:15,360
never use one until we got until we got the one,

3932
03:25:15,760 --> 03:25:19,120
uh in our in our bathroom, I'd never use one before.

3933
03:25:19,280 --> 03:25:23,799
Speaker 4: Amazing, So highest recommendation then, absolutely. Do you just should

3934
03:25:23,799 --> 03:25:25,879
it right up your asshole? Or do you like go

3935
03:25:26,079 --> 03:25:26,719
back and forth?

3936
03:25:27,120 --> 03:25:27,280
Speaker 5: Oh?

3937
03:25:27,360 --> 03:25:29,120
Speaker 2: I do it back and forth. I do a little

3938
03:25:29,159 --> 03:25:33,079
rocking thing like I'm just a commentary. He was rocking.

3939
03:25:33,159 --> 03:25:36,719
Speaker 4: I saw a few angles he was doing. It still

3940
03:25:36,799 --> 03:25:41,040
does not amazing, but points out the Western world is

3941
03:25:41,079 --> 03:25:43,280
no doubt superior to the Middle East with this one exception.

3942
03:25:43,600 --> 03:25:46,040
Post defication, care is no laughing matter. One thing I

3943
03:25:46,159 --> 03:25:48,000
noticed when I came back from a rock is how

3944
03:25:48,040 --> 03:25:50,840
some people here smell like shit, sometimes not a euphemism,

3945
03:25:51,159 --> 03:25:53,840
like actual shit. It occurred to me that there were

3946
03:25:53,959 --> 03:25:57,079
legions of us walking around with dookie in our ass needlessly.

3947
03:25:57,239 --> 03:26:00,440
It's a simple fix. Call me a Bidet evangelist.

3948
03:26:00,799 --> 03:26:03,559
Speaker 2: M it's a wonderful thing. It's amazing.

3949
03:26:04,040 --> 03:26:06,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, there cleaner asses in other parts of the world.

3950
03:26:07,040 --> 03:26:08,479
That yeah, embrace that.

3951
03:26:10,319 --> 03:26:10,840
Speaker 2: Faine rights.

3952
03:26:10,879 --> 03:26:14,559
Speaker 4: I got a side with Sid against Arno. Sid has

3953
03:26:14,600 --> 03:26:16,399
probably gone off those somas and had some of that

3954
03:26:16,559 --> 03:26:18,680
stella the wife beater in him. Arn has always been

3955
03:26:18,719 --> 03:26:20,440
one of those guys that's never the bride but always

3956
03:26:20,440 --> 03:26:22,520
the bridesmaid, and Eric pulling some dumb shit to get

3957
03:26:22,559 --> 03:26:24,920
sit out because they didn't want to pay him pretty much.

3958
03:26:25,040 --> 03:26:28,760
Cements it that there was a lot more to the story. Yeah, yeah,

3959
03:26:28,760 --> 03:26:31,159
that's true. They were trying to figure out contractual terms

3960
03:26:31,200 --> 03:26:33,319
after this happened. They were not trying to fire Sid.

3961
03:26:33,600 --> 03:26:36,520
I think that's what sure that we established and Fane

3962
03:26:36,600 --> 03:26:40,239
comes down strong on one side, on popular side, but

3963
03:26:40,799 --> 03:26:43,040
one side nonetheless. Rich Molton, thank you very much for

3964
03:26:43,120 --> 03:26:44,879
your pledge. Quick to have you in the solar system.

3965
03:26:44,959 --> 03:26:48,159
De Wu, thank you very much for the cake. We

3966
03:26:48,239 --> 03:26:54,559
appreciate the support. Same to you, Shane Sinclair, let's see

3967
03:26:55,559 --> 03:26:58,959
mister as thank you. I met Javed, Thank you very much, Bruno,

3968
03:26:59,079 --> 03:27:02,200
thanks for the cake. Iron McReynolds. We love the support

3969
03:27:02,600 --> 03:27:05,719
and thank you very much. William wonders, what if Vader

3970
03:27:05,840 --> 03:27:08,639
just grabs Scorpio's hash brick and shoved it into his mouth?

3971
03:27:08,760 --> 03:27:12,639
No questions, asked Scorpio, This hash tastes like fucking shit,

3972
03:27:12,680 --> 03:27:15,639
where's the corn beef? Two cold? Just sits there mouth Agate.

3973
03:27:15,760 --> 03:27:18,040
Vader choose and choose. That's how he ends up at

3974
03:27:18,040 --> 03:27:19,079
his underwear in the lobby.

3975
03:27:20,040 --> 03:27:21,840
Speaker 2: I think that's totally fine. Yeah, I'm kind of with

3976
03:27:21,920 --> 03:27:22,120
all that.

3977
03:27:22,239 --> 03:27:30,000
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, okay, let's see, this is taking us back.

3978
03:27:30,079 --> 03:27:33,360
I think to the inn where it all happened. Right,

3979
03:27:34,959 --> 03:27:37,200
you have many things, he writes, interesting lapsed connection for

3980
03:27:37,239 --> 03:27:40,399
Antonina Roca. He apparently introduced Lenny Montana to the mobsters

3981
03:27:40,440 --> 03:27:42,719
that would get him involved in organized crime, as Rocca

3982
03:27:42,799 --> 03:27:46,079
was a dining guest with various mafia members. The mob

3983
03:27:46,159 --> 03:27:48,639
loved rubbing shoulders with Italian American athletes in New York,

3984
03:27:48,760 --> 03:27:51,360
even if they were frauds. Yes, that was always something

3985
03:27:51,479 --> 03:27:54,559
Bruno was very sensitive about, these dinners that he would

3986
03:27:55,200 --> 03:27:57,280
that he would be able to go to after the matches.

3987
03:27:57,319 --> 03:28:00,319
Absolute in the north end of the little mind. Yeah,

3988
03:28:00,360 --> 03:28:06,639
I think we know what's going on there, we know absolutely. Yeah,

3989
03:28:06,799 --> 03:28:10,520
So the stabbing in England the hotel that the stabbing

3990
03:28:10,559 --> 03:28:13,399
happened in. Stephen writes, what's never discussed and considered? It

3991
03:28:13,520 --> 03:28:15,719
was the early nineties. Has it ever been considered this

3992
03:28:15,840 --> 03:28:18,200
was a family run establishment who had to suffer Carney's

3993
03:28:18,200 --> 03:28:21,120
stabbing each other and wandering around and only underpants, screaming

3994
03:28:21,159 --> 03:28:24,360
for food, possibly mere feet from their own private quarters. Yeah,

3995
03:28:24,360 --> 03:28:30,719
I didn't really consider the regular guests during all this, Jason,

3996
03:28:30,920 --> 03:28:33,040
Why doesn't anyone ever cover the second near murder that

3997
03:28:33,079 --> 03:28:35,559
happened during that fateful night in England? After the Arnsid

3998
03:28:35,680 --> 03:28:37,680
stabbing match ended and people were taken to the hospital

3999
03:28:37,760 --> 03:28:39,799
to cold, Scorpio told Vader he could come up to

4000
03:28:39,840 --> 03:28:42,239
my room to finish this hash if he wanted, since

4001
03:28:42,280 --> 03:28:44,239
it was such a stressful night. Vader goes up and

4002
03:28:44,280 --> 03:28:47,200
flies into a rage. Where's the hash? Scorpio's like, here

4003
03:28:47,319 --> 03:28:49,399
hit this. Vader didn't want a joint. He wanted hash

4004
03:28:49,520 --> 03:28:50,120
corn beef and.

4005
03:28:50,200 --> 03:28:53,920
Speaker 2: Hash smart, very exactly different kind of hash. That's what

4006
03:28:54,040 --> 03:28:54,360
he wants.

4007
03:28:54,360 --> 03:28:56,520
Speaker 4: They had a knockdown, drag down brawl until other wrestlers

4008
03:28:56,520 --> 03:29:03,000
could lure Vader away with a Mars Barken just like

4009
03:29:03,159 --> 03:29:06,200
leading him by the note Jake Connark thank you very

4010
03:29:06,239 --> 03:29:09,600
much for the pledge. Sam O'Connor, appreciate the big voter

4011
03:29:09,719 --> 03:29:11,239
support there and climbing all up.

4012
03:29:12,920 --> 03:29:13,159
Speaker 7: That that.

4013
03:29:13,319 --> 03:29:16,079
Speaker 2: TLF Tree, Cody Hinkele, thanks very much for the pledge.

4014
03:29:16,879 --> 03:29:18,520
We like you very much.

4015
03:29:18,639 --> 03:29:20,879
Speaker 4: Steven said, I believe Jack is right about Arn never

4016
03:29:20,959 --> 03:29:22,319
discussing the stabbing publicly.

4017
03:29:23,280 --> 03:29:23,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

4018
03:29:23,600 --> 03:29:24,920
Speaker 4: I got a lot of support in that one. So

4019
03:29:25,319 --> 03:29:27,319
I'm glad I didn't miss anything, because I really would

4020
03:29:27,440 --> 03:29:31,159
like to know one one emotion Arnt has thinking back

4021
03:29:31,239 --> 03:29:31,680
on that day.

4022
03:29:31,799 --> 03:29:34,440
Speaker 2: But I know, could you just get one, Just give

4023
03:29:34,520 --> 03:29:40,520
me one fucking reaction there absolutely nothing, no, no, no,

4024
03:29:42,799 --> 03:29:44,200
I will not. I will not.

4025
03:29:44,440 --> 03:29:47,239
Speaker 4: That's exactly what we've we've heard all these years. Garrek Taylor,

4026
03:29:47,360 --> 03:29:48,319
thanks for all the support.

4027
03:29:52,360 --> 03:29:53,120
Speaker 2: Sure what this is.

4028
03:29:54,200 --> 03:29:59,159
Speaker 4: Let's see, William Webb, I'm not a great boss. I

4029
03:29:59,280 --> 03:30:01,360
mostly just want to do my job with mental interference

4030
03:30:01,440 --> 03:30:04,159
to your jobs. I'm fine. Oh, I think he's talking

4031
03:30:04,159 --> 03:30:08,200
about Okay, we talk about waffle House, as we always do.

4032
03:30:08,360 --> 03:30:11,040
Waffle House always comes up, of course. William Wrights, gentlemen,

4033
03:30:11,040 --> 03:30:12,799
I would like to share something. I work as an

4034
03:30:12,799 --> 03:30:15,000
overnight department manager at a grocery store and we share

4035
03:30:15,000 --> 03:30:17,200
a parking lot with waffle house. As far as waffle

4036
03:30:17,239 --> 03:30:21,719
houses go, I guess it's very good. With plea, I

4037
03:30:21,760 --> 03:30:24,040
guess it's very good. Police only showing up once or

4038
03:30:24,079 --> 03:30:26,239
twice a night. We have vendors who come in during

4039
03:30:26,280 --> 03:30:27,959
my shift and I have to check them in since

4040
03:30:28,000 --> 03:30:30,200
the doors are locked. After closing, the vendors will tap

4041
03:30:30,239 --> 03:30:32,159
on the glass with their keys to alert us. Thanks

4042
03:30:32,200 --> 03:30:33,920
to that cast, which I listen to every night, I

4043
03:30:34,000 --> 03:30:36,520
have this fever dream about wrestlers coming to the door

4044
03:30:36,559 --> 03:30:39,280
and tapping, but with a fork instead of keys. Often

4045
03:30:39,319 --> 03:30:42,520
it's John Tenta. However, after this it's definitely Vader, who

4046
03:30:42,520 --> 03:30:45,079
has cleaned out the waffle house, but he isn't satisfied.

4047
03:30:45,440 --> 03:30:50,120
Let men, I know you've got waffles in there. To me,

4048
03:30:50,319 --> 03:30:52,559
I'm still hungry. I'll lead him frozen. I don't care

4049
03:30:52,639 --> 03:30:55,559
give you waffles. He sees a pallette of eggoes and

4050
03:30:56,079 --> 03:30:59,639
just charges at it. Yeah, splashes into it, smashing them,

4051
03:30:59,680 --> 03:31:05,920
eating the box, smashing open cases about cases of breakfast goods,

4052
03:31:05,959 --> 03:31:09,760
and stuffing his face with the frozen, crumbly tetritus.

4053
03:31:10,680 --> 03:31:13,680
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, I'm not a great box. It's all real,

4054
03:31:15,360 --> 03:31:17,479
it's all real. Oh, my god, I can see it.

4055
03:31:17,559 --> 03:31:18,239
I can see it now.

4056
03:31:18,360 --> 03:31:21,079
Speaker 4: He paints such a vivid picture. Scott Arnold. Thanks for

4057
03:31:21,159 --> 03:31:23,719
the support, Adam writes, I'm just going to share this.

4058
03:31:23,840 --> 03:31:25,760
It's easy enough to find Sid's a bituary online, and

4059
03:31:25,879 --> 03:31:28,040
being that the human condition is both hilarious and depressing,

4060
03:31:28,239 --> 03:31:30,559
some of the comments are exactly what you'd expect talking

4061
03:31:30,559 --> 03:31:32,200
about you know, how you can add comments and someone's

4062
03:31:32,200 --> 03:31:34,719
obituary online. One thing that's stuck with me, and we'll

4063
03:31:34,719 --> 03:31:36,680
probably do so over quite some time is the comment

4064
03:31:36,799 --> 03:31:40,879
someone made explaining that Sid introduced him to sushi.

4065
03:31:43,760 --> 03:31:46,079
Speaker 2: Wow, with that, what you will? You know when I

4066
03:31:46,239 --> 03:31:54,799
was in Japan you can hear it now. Oh boy,

4067
03:31:54,920 --> 03:31:57,760
I used to love the sausages y heat.

4068
03:31:58,239 --> 03:32:01,879
Speaker 4: Thanks for the pledge, Miles, Thanks for the pledge, Ronnie,

4069
03:32:02,600 --> 03:32:04,920
thanks for the pledged DP Thanks for the doubling of

4070
03:32:05,000 --> 03:32:07,840
said pledge. Matt Anderson. Welcome to the EP here, Anthony Rossi,

4071
03:32:07,879 --> 03:32:10,879
Welcome to the EP tier. Christopher Bizzolo, Welcome to the

4072
03:32:10,959 --> 03:32:18,239
EP tier. Welcome Jesse Harrison, Welcome DJ Smitty, and welcome

4073
03:32:18,559 --> 03:32:22,799
Michael Caaprio. These are all EP motherfuckers going all the way.

4074
03:32:22,959 --> 03:32:26,879
Man Akaliko I hope I'm saying that right. Thank you

4075
03:32:27,000 --> 03:32:29,399
very much for the support. Ken Riegel, thank you very

4076
03:32:29,479 --> 03:32:35,120
much for the help. And uh, Stephen, Peterisee and Thane

4077
03:32:35,120 --> 03:32:36,840
Warre who we've called out, thank you very much for

4078
03:32:36,879 --> 03:32:39,920
the support. Brian Sweeney, thanks for pumping up. Jason Powell,

4079
03:32:39,959 --> 03:32:46,799
We appreciate your support. Corey in Winnipeg answers our question,

4080
03:32:46,840 --> 03:32:49,639
who's the first bad guy you cheered for? Remember we

4081
03:32:49,719 --> 03:32:52,159
talked about that along the way first bad guy you

4082
03:32:52,280 --> 03:32:54,440
cheered for? Conversation. He writes to be very different from me.

4083
03:32:54,680 --> 03:32:56,479
I'm sure I must have at one pointment pulling for

4084
03:32:56,479 --> 03:32:58,520
a heel earlier than this, but at nineteen eighty six

4085
03:32:58,719 --> 03:33:00,840
was the year I remember mainly che to cheering for

4086
03:33:00,959 --> 03:33:04,239
heels Orndorf, Savage and Jake on TV plus the Horsemen

4087
03:33:04,280 --> 03:33:06,959
through magazines. Sid's ara and reactions were among the best

4088
03:33:07,000 --> 03:33:08,879
in the business, even if his ring skills can't match

4089
03:33:08,959 --> 03:33:10,559
up to them. Yeah, we were talking about how Sid

4090
03:33:10,639 --> 03:33:13,360
got those huge reactions in eighty nine despite never being

4091
03:33:13,719 --> 03:33:19,200
presented anything close to a babyface in NBA, and so yeah,

4092
03:33:19,280 --> 03:33:21,040
I can see that there were definitely there was definitely

4093
03:33:21,040 --> 03:33:23,799
an undercurrent during the Rock and wrestling era of cheering

4094
03:33:23,879 --> 03:33:26,959
for the heels, no question, like if you Paul Ardroff

4095
03:33:26,959 --> 03:33:29,159
would get huge reactions. People were so ready to cheer

4096
03:33:29,239 --> 03:33:31,280
for him when they were allowed to in eighty six

4097
03:33:32,079 --> 03:33:34,239
because even during his run with Hogan in some towns

4098
03:33:34,280 --> 03:33:36,959
he would get huge reactions. And Randy Savage, he was

4099
03:33:37,000 --> 03:33:40,079
just too fucking amazing in the ring, you know, yep, yeah,

4100
03:33:40,120 --> 03:33:41,840
I hate a guy that double access to the floor

4101
03:33:42,000 --> 03:33:45,639
like that for very long. Chris turg l Fierira, thank

4102
03:33:45,680 --> 03:33:49,239
you very much for the pledge and welcome into our

4103
03:33:49,319 --> 03:33:49,959
inner circle.

4104
03:33:50,079 --> 03:33:50,360
Speaker 2: Boss.

4105
03:33:50,399 --> 03:33:55,319
Speaker 4: Hear something Charles from Albany's Schenectady and he was at

4106
03:33:55,319 --> 03:33:56,200
the ninety two rumble.

4107
03:33:56,280 --> 03:33:56,920
Speaker 2: He wants us to know.

4108
03:33:57,079 --> 03:34:00,159
Speaker 4: Which is fucking I can imagine having been there or

4109
03:34:00,200 --> 03:34:05,319
what that was like. But here's the uh, here's the words.

4110
03:34:06,120 --> 03:34:09,680
Speaker 2: All right, dear co chairman, It's time. After all these

4111
03:34:09,799 --> 03:34:12,639
years of lurking in the shadows of my guilt, never

4112
03:34:12,799 --> 03:34:15,520
sending an email, never acknowledging me on a holy impact

4113
03:34:15,600 --> 03:34:17,799
you've had in my life, I figured it's about time

4114
03:34:18,559 --> 03:34:22,000
I broke the silence. I've been listening since day one

4115
03:34:22,079 --> 03:34:28,200
on Wrestle Zone. Yes, that horrendous media player experience. We're

4116
03:34:28,280 --> 03:34:30,719
just getting through. One episode felt like a sixty minute

4117
03:34:30,760 --> 03:34:34,000
iron Man match with dial up internet, back when we

4118
03:34:34,079 --> 03:34:37,120
had to fight for our hashtag shelf life content before

4119
03:34:37,159 --> 03:34:41,479
it was cool. But here's the thing, despite your relentless

4120
03:34:41,520 --> 03:34:44,319
and soul piercing demands for Patreon dollars, I mean, after all,

4121
03:34:44,440 --> 03:34:48,680
you deserve it. I've never sent a dime, not one

4122
03:34:48,920 --> 03:34:52,959
red scent. And do I feel bad? Of course not? Why, because, gentlemen,

4123
03:34:52,959 --> 03:34:56,520
I'm a heel, a terrible person, really, the kind of

4124
03:34:56,600 --> 03:35:01,440
person who consumed without giving. In each new watching my

4125
03:35:01,639 --> 03:35:05,440
wallets like it's the last time Triple h held on

4126
03:35:05,600 --> 03:35:09,760
to the title. I don't intend to give either. Not

4127
03:35:09,879 --> 03:35:13,600
because you don't deserve it, you absolutely do, but because well,

4128
03:35:15,719 --> 03:35:20,360
we can't all be heroes, and I'm like Brett, I

4129
03:35:20,399 --> 03:35:24,000
don't want to be. Now, let's talk about the more

4130
03:35:24,959 --> 03:35:27,719
intimate side of this relationship. It's hard to find words

4131
03:35:27,799 --> 03:35:31,520
to describe the experience of having my rectum forcibly penetrated

4132
03:35:31,600 --> 03:35:35,719
by each episode. Stretched doesn't quite cover it. It's more

4133
03:35:35,840 --> 03:35:44,399
like a deep spiritual rearrangement, as if each well placed dig,

4134
03:35:44,639 --> 03:35:49,520
each impersonation, each harrowing collection of the business shreds the

4135
03:35:49,719 --> 03:35:53,680
very fabric of my soul like an unholy body slam

4136
03:35:53,840 --> 03:35:57,079
to my coloness. That makes me ask myself, what am

4137
03:35:57,079 --> 03:35:59,920
I doing with my life? Why do I keep coming

4138
03:36:00,239 --> 03:36:03,399
back for more? Well you know the answer. It's because

4139
03:36:03,600 --> 03:36:07,920
I need it? And why? Now you ask what could

4140
03:36:08,040 --> 03:36:11,239
possibly prompt this email? After all these years of silence.

4141
03:36:11,280 --> 03:36:12,959
I was re listening to your back last two thousand

4142
03:36:12,959 --> 03:36:16,840
and four episode because yes, your podcast has hashtag shelf life,

4143
03:36:17,000 --> 03:36:21,360
and it hit me this was the final push I needed. Yep?

4144
03:36:22,639 --> 03:36:25,479
Was this the birth of the lapse editor? The moment

4145
03:36:25,520 --> 03:36:29,680
when that character, the epitome of editorial disdain was conjured

4146
03:36:29,719 --> 03:36:32,639
from the depths of your collective minds? If so, bravo.

4147
03:36:33,559 --> 03:36:35,559
I'll pay for that kind of genius, but we've already

4148
03:36:35,639 --> 03:36:39,639
established I'm not going to do that. Right, keep doing

4149
03:36:39,719 --> 03:36:43,159
what you do. I'll keep not paying but needing every

4150
03:36:43,239 --> 03:36:52,000
SICI anally wrecked listener. That's funny. I like that he was.

4151
03:36:53,520 --> 03:36:57,600
Speaker 4: It is grappling with quite a bit, there wasn't he. Indeed,

4152
03:36:57,719 --> 03:36:59,680
you know what, Brian Blake wasn't grappling with what to

4153
03:36:59,719 --> 03:37:01,799
do with the face of the Vienna stuff. We we

4154
03:37:01,959 --> 03:37:04,399
failed to mention this, but he sent us a receipt

4155
03:37:04,879 --> 03:37:08,159
delivered September twenty fifth to the receptionist or someone at

4156
03:37:08,159 --> 03:37:11,680
the front desk of Saint Mary's Episcopal in Memphis, was

4157
03:37:11,719 --> 03:37:15,600
a can of armor Vienna sausage smoked. Wow, he sent it,

4158
03:37:17,159 --> 03:37:22,000
and I love it so much, so everyone in the

4159
03:37:22,079 --> 03:37:25,200
Vienna spirit as we sate Sid.

4160
03:37:25,399 --> 03:37:28,440
Speaker 2: It's just tremendous. That's just fucking funniest shit ever.

4161
03:37:28,719 --> 03:37:32,760
Speaker 4: These little cans of meat. Yep, you know, to cause

4162
03:37:32,760 --> 03:37:36,399
such a sensation. Ethan writes, Rip Sid and condolences to

4163
03:37:36,479 --> 03:37:39,440
his son Frankfurt or Udy. I've already listened to bart

4164
03:37:39,479 --> 03:37:42,120
one twice instant classic. You two never failed to deliver

4165
03:37:42,200 --> 03:37:44,680
the Vienna's He says, Is it just me? Or did

4166
03:37:44,680 --> 03:37:47,079
Sid's hair look like someone poured a cup of wet

4167
03:37:47,200 --> 03:37:48,280
Ramen noodles on his head?

4168
03:37:49,360 --> 03:37:49,559
Speaker 2: Yes?

4169
03:37:49,879 --> 03:37:52,280
Speaker 4: For that reason, one hundred percent correct, and says I

4170
03:37:52,280 --> 03:37:54,200
could never get behind him one hundred percent. See, I

4171
03:37:54,200 --> 03:37:55,680
always thought Sid's hair was a plus.

4172
03:37:57,360 --> 03:37:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's right in saying that it looks like

4173
03:37:59,280 --> 03:38:02,719
Ramanus because that I like Ramen. Yeah, just another way

4174
03:38:02,719 --> 03:38:05,719
of saying that, I suppose Jessev.

4175
03:38:06,360 --> 03:38:08,399
Speaker 4: Thank you for the pledge my friend Stuart William.

4176
03:38:08,920 --> 03:38:10,159
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Andy.

4177
03:38:10,319 --> 03:38:13,200
Speaker 4: We appreciate your help. Mark Hutchinson, thanks for the support.

4178
03:38:13,520 --> 03:38:17,680
Nick Osipoff, Washa Andrea, thank you very much for joining

4179
03:38:17,719 --> 03:38:19,559
the executive producer tier on Patreon.

4180
03:38:19,959 --> 03:38:20,440
Speaker 2: Marty F.

4181
03:38:21,000 --> 03:38:26,120
Speaker 4: Shells, Rene Greater Carl from Saint Louis longtime supporter. It's

4182
03:38:26,159 --> 03:38:29,559
great to see all these names putting their money where

4183
03:38:29,559 --> 03:38:33,159
their mouth is. Dirger writes, interesting hearing the Squeezee story

4184
03:38:33,200 --> 03:38:35,200
regarding Sid. I can relay the version that was told

4185
03:38:35,239 --> 03:38:37,360
to me in ninety eight, ninety nine by someone that

4186
03:38:37,479 --> 03:38:39,559
says they were there. I'm pretty sure they worked for

4187
03:38:39,680 --> 03:38:41,600
WWF at the time, but it's fifty to fifty they

4188
03:38:41,639 --> 03:38:43,959
got the story from someone else. No, that makes sense

4189
03:38:44,000 --> 03:38:48,680
because don't forget Sid was in WWF when this happened, right, yeah,

4190
03:38:48,680 --> 03:38:50,680
and Pillman was in ww and they were in the

4191
03:38:50,680 --> 03:38:53,360
same hotel. Anyways, the version I have no mention of Mike,

4192
03:38:53,520 --> 03:38:56,719
just Pillman. No Mike Graham, who tells the best version

4193
03:38:56,760 --> 03:38:59,559
of the story that we shared in the episode, but

4194
03:38:59,680 --> 03:39:02,079
his mention Mike, this story has just Pilman getting into

4195
03:39:02,079 --> 03:39:04,280
it with Sid physically, with Pilman getting the better of

4196
03:39:04,360 --> 03:39:06,040
it and said, says something like you wait right here.

4197
03:39:06,079 --> 03:39:07,479
I'm going to get something on my truck to take

4198
03:39:07,520 --> 03:39:09,639
care of you. And he leaves and everyone is thinking

4199
03:39:09,639 --> 03:39:11,280
he's getting a knife or a hammer or a gun,

4200
03:39:11,600 --> 03:39:13,239
so they're all kind of nervous. But he comes back

4201
03:39:13,239 --> 03:39:16,760
with a squeegee and act like it's a handgun, pointing

4202
03:39:16,799 --> 03:39:19,559
it at people. Yep, everyone bursts into laughter, and he

4203
03:39:19,639 --> 03:39:21,719
just turns around and leaves and not close to the

4204
03:39:21,760 --> 03:39:23,559
accounts in the episode, and probably further from the truth

4205
03:39:23,559 --> 03:39:24,760
than anything, but I was fun It's funny.

4206
03:39:24,879 --> 03:39:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that idea.

4207
03:39:25,799 --> 03:39:28,680
Speaker 4: That the reason it was so ridiculous, and the reason said,

4208
03:39:28,680 --> 03:39:30,200
we're trying to bring a squegee in. It's not because

4209
03:39:30,200 --> 03:39:33,040
he thought a squegee would be menacing, but because he

4210
03:39:33,079 --> 03:39:35,760
thought he could pass it off as a gun. Yes, right,

4211
03:39:36,799 --> 03:39:39,159
And that's that's hilarious to picture Sid with a squege

4212
03:39:39,200 --> 03:39:40,920
in his hand trying to convince people it's a gun.

4213
03:39:41,000 --> 03:39:43,879
That's that's something said would definitely do. So, oh, he

4214
03:39:44,079 --> 03:39:44,920
definitely would do that.

4215
03:39:45,159 --> 03:39:47,200
Speaker 2: Giro Vargas, thank you very much for the pledge. We

4216
03:39:47,280 --> 03:39:47,799
appreciate it.

4217
03:39:47,920 --> 03:39:51,479
Speaker 4: Miley Ripley, thanks for the support. This is a great

4218
03:39:51,520 --> 03:39:55,600
point by ar Ronaldi. I will kill you, sid to

4219
03:39:55,719 --> 03:39:57,280
one of his best friends downtown.

4220
03:39:57,319 --> 03:40:03,840
Speaker 2: Bruno, I don't kill you. We were just talking about

4221
03:40:03,879 --> 03:40:05,680
this guy wants you to look at me right now.

4222
03:40:05,799 --> 03:40:09,319
I will fucking kill you. You know why, don't kill

4223
03:40:09,360 --> 03:40:13,799
you because you're my friend. In the middle of the night,

4224
03:40:13,840 --> 03:40:17,159
I'm gonna kill you in the same hotel room. You

4225
03:40:17,239 --> 03:40:21,159
don't even know you can You won't even you won't

4226
03:40:21,159 --> 03:40:25,799
even know. You can't sleep, can you? Bruno? I can't

4227
03:40:25,879 --> 03:40:31,079
sleep either. Bruno won't sleep. Bruno can't sleep?

4228
03:40:32,120 --> 03:40:32,280
Speaker 3: Huh?

4229
03:40:32,360 --> 03:40:37,159
Speaker 2: What can't sleep? Bruno? Bruno? You sleep? I know you're not.

4230
03:40:38,440 --> 03:40:41,440
I know you can't sleep because I can't sleep. I

4231
03:40:41,520 --> 03:40:46,239
won't sleep. I don't sleep. Now, worn't bit of the pool. Now,

4232
03:40:46,239 --> 03:40:49,799
what are you gonna do about her? Bruno? When you

4233
03:40:49,879 --> 03:40:51,399
got going on down there? You're gonna do about the

4234
03:40:51,440 --> 03:40:53,799
fact that I can't sleep. What are you gonna do

4235
03:40:53,879 --> 03:40:57,559
about the fact that I'm not sleeping, Well, you gonna do.

4236
03:40:58,799 --> 03:41:00,239
But the fact that I'm just gonna se in my

4237
03:41:00,319 --> 03:41:04,479
bad I'm gonna watch you sleep. When you sleep, you're

4238
03:41:04,479 --> 03:41:07,559
gonna feel my eyes burn in the back of your skull,

4239
03:41:09,639 --> 03:41:12,239
and then you're gonna wake up, and you're gonna find

4240
03:41:12,239 --> 03:41:13,680
out that I drove a hole in the back of

4241
03:41:13,719 --> 03:41:19,959
your head and letting you bleed out and kill you. Bruno,

4242
03:41:21,360 --> 03:41:23,239
when you wake up in the morning, you're gonna be dead.

4243
03:41:25,399 --> 03:41:29,000
It's not there is a promise to guarantee. And I'm

4244
03:41:29,000 --> 03:41:32,959
just gonna see you're watching. I'm gonna kill you. I'm

4245
03:41:32,959 --> 03:41:36,399
gonna kill you. I kill you, I kill you.

4246
03:41:40,000 --> 03:41:42,040
Speaker 4: Jeff has a great question. Can we get Vienna by

4247
03:41:42,120 --> 03:41:47,600
Billy Joel and lap Sid's voice. That's when we haven't tried.

4248
03:41:47,600 --> 03:41:49,639
I didn't even know Billy Joel had a song called Vienna.

4249
03:41:51,760 --> 03:41:54,120
Speaker 2: Now you do? And what do you do with that information?

4250
03:41:54,319 --> 03:41:54,799
Is the question?

4251
03:41:55,440 --> 03:41:55,600
Speaker 7: Oh?

4252
03:41:55,760 --> 03:41:58,879
Speaker 2: That is that is always the thing. Although you won't

4253
03:41:58,879 --> 03:42:00,559
be able to hear it though, but I and I'm

4254
03:42:00,600 --> 03:42:03,239
sure I can read the lyrics. I don't know how

4255
03:42:03,280 --> 03:42:03,799
it goes.

4256
03:42:08,959 --> 03:42:09,760
Speaker 5: So down.

4257
03:42:10,479 --> 03:42:16,639
Speaker 8: You're crazy child, You're so ambitious for a juvenile But

4258
03:42:16,760 --> 03:42:20,559
then as you're so smart, tell me why you're still

4259
03:42:20,760 --> 03:42:28,159
so afraid? Where's the fire? What's the hurry about? You

4260
03:42:28,280 --> 03:42:32,520
better cool off before you burn it out. You got

4261
03:42:32,639 --> 03:42:36,200
so much to do and only so many hours.

4262
03:42:35,879 --> 03:42:40,719
Speaker 2: In a day. Hey, but you know the woe that

4263
03:42:40,879 --> 03:42:45,680
truth is told. You can get what you want or

4264
03:42:45,879 --> 03:42:48,280
you can just get old. That's really good.

4265
03:42:50,079 --> 03:42:52,879
Speaker 8: You're gonna kick off before you even get halfway through

4266
03:42:53,719 --> 03:42:55,280
when you realize.

4267
03:42:56,840 --> 03:43:06,399
Speaker 2: Waits for you. That's awesome.

4268
03:43:08,239 --> 03:43:11,840
Speaker 4: I like the using vienna like it's plural, like I

4269
03:43:12,000 --> 03:43:13,479
have a vienna and I have vienna.

4270
03:43:14,159 --> 03:43:17,639
Speaker 2: You know, yes, right, if you have multiple vienna heard

4271
03:43:17,639 --> 03:43:20,000
of this. Further to the squeegee story, Stephen writes, my

4272
03:43:20,040 --> 03:43:22,600
favorite story around the squegee incident is a few days later,

4273
03:43:22,680 --> 03:43:24,680
Sting and Cactus Jack had a no DQ match in

4274
03:43:24,680 --> 03:43:26,600
a house show, and they did a spot where Cactus

4275
03:43:26,639 --> 03:43:28,840
pulled out a squeegee and Stings started begging off like

4276
03:43:28,959 --> 03:43:32,440
Cactus was holding a knife. That's great funny.

4277
03:43:32,719 --> 03:43:34,879
Speaker 4: I didn't know that this is from Lee and Mona

4278
03:43:35,000 --> 03:43:37,959
Rogers and it's entitled and I think this is going

4279
03:43:38,040 --> 03:43:42,559
to really hold some potential. Uh Sydney and the grocery

4280
03:43:42,600 --> 03:43:45,079
store take it away, boss.

4281
03:43:49,399 --> 03:43:57,159
Speaker 2: And it's just hello, guys. I just have one story

4282
03:43:57,239 --> 03:43:58,840
on the Master and Rule of the world. I live

4283
03:43:58,879 --> 03:44:02,040
in Memphis, Tennessee. I've lived here my entire life and never,

4284
03:44:02,639 --> 03:44:05,639
not one single time, had I ever met Lord Humongous.

4285
03:44:07,280 --> 03:44:09,479
I have zero reasons to be at a softball field,

4286
03:44:09,559 --> 03:44:13,079
so that eliminated one path. I love wrestling, I love

4287
03:44:13,200 --> 03:44:16,520
love pro wrestling, but I never went to many shows.

4288
03:44:17,159 --> 03:44:19,559
I never went to Channel five on Saturday mornings. No

4289
03:44:19,719 --> 03:44:22,760
mid South Colisseum shows, no raws, no house shows. I

4290
03:44:22,879 --> 03:44:27,280
only went to one WCW Nitro in October nineteen ninety six,

4291
03:44:27,360 --> 03:44:30,479
and Psycho sid was on his way to Survivor Series

4292
03:44:30,559 --> 03:44:35,600
ninety six. Fast forward to May twenty twenty. Dark times, gentlemen,

4293
03:44:35,840 --> 03:44:39,680
Dark dark times. We all remember that period. I've worked

4294
03:44:39,760 --> 03:44:42,159
retail most jobs most of my life, and during that

4295
03:44:42,360 --> 03:44:45,159
time I worked at the fresh Market grocery store on

4296
03:44:45,319 --> 03:44:49,879
Union Ab in Memphis, only a ten minute drive and

4297
03:44:50,000 --> 03:44:54,520
you're crossing into Arkansas. So on a pretty chaotic day

4298
03:44:54,680 --> 03:44:58,079
early in the pandemic, I was working alone, unloading the

4299
03:44:58,159 --> 03:45:01,719
truck and stalking show else, probably listening to Pain on

4300
03:45:01,760 --> 03:45:05,399
the Pacific. My closest friend, who worked there and bakery,

4301
03:45:05,559 --> 03:45:09,799
knew I was a lifelong wrestling fan. She wasn't, but

4302
03:45:10,239 --> 03:45:12,719
would tell me a wrestler would come in there every

4303
03:45:12,760 --> 03:45:16,319
now and again and people would point him out. I

4304
03:45:16,399 --> 03:45:18,840
had a hunch it wasn't Jerry Lawler. Don't picture King

4305
03:45:19,000 --> 03:45:22,319
shopping there. Hello, well, I thought it could be said vicious,

4306
03:45:22,399 --> 03:45:25,639
and on this day she ran over to me to

4307
03:45:25,719 --> 03:45:28,959
tell me he was there, and it was Sid beauty

4308
03:45:29,200 --> 03:45:34,120
or Raymond beauty. He was tall, he was noticed with thinner,

4309
03:45:35,040 --> 03:45:37,920
still had the curly hair, was wearing blue, was wearing

4310
03:45:38,319 --> 03:45:41,920
khaki pants rather a sweatshirt, and more importantly for me,

4311
03:45:42,040 --> 03:45:46,120
at least, he was wearing a mask. We were at

4312
03:45:46,120 --> 03:45:48,639
a pretty scary time with COVID, and most folks wore

4313
03:45:48,760 --> 03:45:52,120
the mask. He carried his basket around and I watched

4314
03:45:52,200 --> 03:45:56,280
him go to the meat counter, deli and bakery. Then

4315
03:45:56,360 --> 03:45:59,239
he was in my section, which was the grocery side.

4316
03:46:00,159 --> 03:46:02,000
I was doing my thing, and he came over and

4317
03:46:02,120 --> 03:46:06,680
asked if we had mint jelly. Oh my god, he

4318
03:46:06,799 --> 03:46:11,639
did not say that mint you got? I ask you

4319
03:46:11,760 --> 03:46:19,520
something very simple. You got mint jelly for lamb chops.

4320
03:46:21,440 --> 03:46:24,479
I remember thinking vern didn't train, so all right, no shit,

4321
03:46:25,520 --> 03:46:28,280
and guys, our shelves were basically empty. During this time,

4322
03:46:28,360 --> 03:46:31,360
we had practically nothing. He then asked if we had

4323
03:46:31,559 --> 03:46:36,559
hemp seeds. Another no. He really didn't look happy, and

4324
03:46:36,680 --> 03:46:38,959
I thought about offering him the chance to power bomb

4325
03:46:39,040 --> 03:46:41,559
me pillman style, but we were in a serious time.

4326
03:46:42,600 --> 03:46:44,520
As he was checking out, I walked by just to

4327
03:46:44,600 --> 03:46:47,360
show him an inventory, an order sheet that showed we

4328
03:46:47,399 --> 03:46:49,799
put in orders for the hemp seed weeks prior and

4329
03:46:50,000 --> 03:46:53,239
things just weren't coming. He mentioned he drove a good

4330
03:46:53,319 --> 03:46:57,840
bit to get there, you know, for he's such a complainer.

4331
03:46:58,120 --> 03:47:01,680
He complains on the WW tape having to show up. Yep,

4332
03:47:02,040 --> 03:47:03,840
Oh my god, I don't want to show up here.

4333
03:47:06,040 --> 03:47:08,360
He mentioned he drove a I said sorry. I gave

4334
03:47:08,440 --> 03:47:11,920
him a ton of of friends and family coupons, and

4335
03:47:11,959 --> 03:47:14,600
he seemed appreciative. I did tell him I was a

4336
03:47:14,639 --> 03:47:16,399
lifelong fan of wrestling. He asked if I was a

4337
03:47:16,479 --> 03:47:20,600
fan of his. Lol. He offered an autograph. You want

4338
03:47:20,639 --> 03:47:27,319
autograph picture? I want to tell you what you want

4339
03:47:27,399 --> 03:47:30,200
a picture? You gotta buy me one hundred and fifty cans.

4340
03:47:33,959 --> 03:47:37,639
Cans by me, one hundred and fifty cans.

4341
03:47:40,399 --> 03:47:40,600
Speaker 5: I was.

4342
03:47:41,600 --> 03:47:43,639
Speaker 2: I was thirty four years old, so autographs weren't a

4343
03:47:43,680 --> 03:47:46,000
huge priority of my life, but I graciously accepted. He

4344
03:47:46,079 --> 03:47:48,719
saw my friend looking on and asked for her name.

4345
03:47:48,760 --> 03:47:52,000
I said Mona. He signed it and playfully gave her

4346
03:47:52,079 --> 03:47:57,239
grief for not having the desserts. He wanted, and then

4347
03:47:57,399 --> 03:48:03,000
Mona was like, yeah, I really appreciate you and shop Mona,

4348
03:48:03,040 --> 03:48:04,760
I want you to look me right in the eye.

4349
03:48:07,440 --> 03:48:13,600
I want you to understand something. I'm a master and

4350
03:48:13,760 --> 03:48:16,360
the ruler of the world, and you get me what

4351
03:48:16,479 --> 03:48:19,920
I fucking want. We're the only one going to be

4352
03:48:20,040 --> 03:48:23,760
Moana and Mona is you want to power bombinging through

4353
03:48:23,799 --> 03:48:31,159
the earth? Ah? She keeps telling U. Mona and I

4354
03:48:31,319 --> 03:48:33,879
recently got married and I told her about Sid's passing.

4355
03:48:34,360 --> 03:48:36,719
She keeps telling me she has both of those autographs somewhere,

4356
03:48:36,760 --> 03:48:39,280
but I'm positive those are long gone. I only saw

4357
03:48:39,399 --> 03:48:41,840
Sid once and it was for about five minutes, and

4358
03:48:41,920 --> 03:48:43,719
he was but he was a very polite man. He

4359
03:48:43,840 --> 03:48:46,319
left the good impression on me, and even more importantly,

4360
03:48:46,399 --> 03:48:48,399
he left a really good impression on the woman who

4361
03:48:48,440 --> 03:48:51,079
became my wife. Thank you, Jack and JP for everything

4362
03:48:51,440 --> 03:48:53,399
you guys do for the solar system. You mean a

4363
03:48:53,440 --> 03:48:55,840
lot to us. All very very good.

4364
03:48:56,959 --> 03:49:00,840
Speaker 4: It's great, and we also want to thank a host

4365
03:49:00,879 --> 03:49:04,799
of other folks. Let's let's let's really uh, let's really

4366
03:49:04,840 --> 03:49:06,520
address this situation here because we have.

4367
03:49:06,639 --> 03:49:08,280
Speaker 2: A lot of pledges.

4368
03:49:08,840 --> 03:49:09,000
Speaker 9: Uh.

4369
03:49:09,760 --> 03:49:14,760
Speaker 4: We want to thank uh Davis, Drip and Daniel Maler

4370
03:49:15,120 --> 03:49:20,040
and well dead inside failure Davis d Yeah, that was

4371
03:49:20,319 --> 03:49:23,440
the name we got with a hyphen. Thank Matt for

4372
03:49:23,520 --> 03:49:26,280
bumping that pledge way way up, Matt Linde, I think

4373
03:49:26,280 --> 03:49:29,399
it is. Thank you so much, Knowe. Thanks very much

4374
03:49:29,479 --> 03:49:36,200
for that ep level tier pledge. Todd Harding and David Googly, Emmy,

4375
03:49:38,479 --> 03:49:41,399
I mean to thank Chris Cummins, who's coming all over

4376
03:49:41,479 --> 03:49:46,399
the place with his pledge. Davelly, Thank you very much.

4377
03:49:46,479 --> 03:49:50,559
Anthony Pope, we appreciate it. Damien Thorn, we love the support.

4378
03:49:50,600 --> 03:49:55,239
Brendan Sours and Chay and Grand McClure and Edward Zieman

4379
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and Kim Gridwood. You need to thank Brent Erickson and

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Darry Darry us Ntegi.

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Speaker 2: I believe it is okay, Anthony.

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Speaker 4: Rossi and Jay Hamilton and Jason Woodrum Ray as a party,

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Jason Hervey, it's a party. Ray, It's a party. Brother Peter,

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thank you very much. Welcome to the v VI P

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tr uh Ilia Gardanis. Thank you very much for your

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support and for in fact upping that pledge substantially in

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our I guess you could say our time of need.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: It's a good one from William Boss. I don't know

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if anyone has presented this idea before, but what about

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03:50:34,360 --> 03:50:38,280
a t L F kfabe cookbook? Recipes from that cast

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03:50:39,239 --> 03:50:44,559
sends recipes for venus, this is recipes for ribs, Bulldog's,

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03:50:44,600 --> 03:50:50,840
recipes for crack. If Bob's Bob's Burgers can put one out?

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03:50:50,920 --> 03:50:54,040
Speaker 2: Did they? Yeah? They didn't. They did, know that? Do

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you like they?

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03:50:54,719 --> 03:50:54,840
Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I mean it was you know, it's it's yeah, they did.

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They put out a recipe book for me. You know,

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you don't actually know what he puts in the burgers

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because they don't actually, you know, they just named them.

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And then but what they did put out a cookbook delicious.

4402
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I actually they're good. I made some, Oh did you actually?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I had a friend who had the cookbook,

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and I just took a bunch of photos of ones

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that that sounded good, and I made them. They're good, tasty.

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Speaker 4: Hilliam salivating thinking about Vader's recipe for ripping the door

4408
03:51:26,360 --> 03:51:34,280
off of Wendy's and splashing into the fry station. Sounds delicious. Okay, Now,

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03:51:34,600 --> 03:51:38,520
so I'm just you know, to call that a recipe

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is pretty funny.

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Speaker 2: Actually, see right, He's even freaking barged through the door,

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and people scatter. The first thing you want to do scattered,

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03:51:47,600 --> 03:51:49,479
all right, first thing you gotta do is you get

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03:51:49,559 --> 03:51:52,719
a hope. First. The first thing you gotta do is

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03:51:52,760 --> 03:51:56,440
you get to find a double door. Wendy's that's the priority,

4416
03:51:56,920 --> 03:52:01,280
all right. And then you push the doors through, and

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03:52:01,399 --> 03:52:04,600
you he has he has techniques in the cookbook on

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03:52:04,719 --> 03:52:09,440
how to push the doors exactly. And then everyone starts

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03:52:09,479 --> 03:52:12,680
screaming and you and you have to come in saying,

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03:52:12,760 --> 03:52:15,280
what are the food that makes that a recipe?

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03:52:17,680 --> 03:52:18,479
Speaker 3: What the food?

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Speaker 2: Screaming? Everyone's you know, women are screaming, men are screaming,

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trying to get out of his way, and you just

4424
03:52:26,799 --> 03:52:30,040
then you just you just thunder over to the fucking

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03:52:30,239 --> 03:52:32,719
to the fucking register. You push the employee out of

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the way, and you go to the French fries and

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03:52:35,600 --> 03:52:37,399
just you do you know, you do one of those

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03:52:37,920 --> 03:52:48,399
like like you're sweeping your arms out. Okay, well, so yes,

4429
03:52:48,479 --> 03:52:51,000
we should make one. Yeah, I guess. So that's the

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03:52:51,079 --> 03:52:54,559
only thing I can think of as a proper response

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03:52:54,600 --> 03:52:58,360
to that. Mmmm, that's the recipe of that.

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Speaker 4: There's anybody out there who can help us put a

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book out I think we can talk.

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Speaker 2: That'd be funny.