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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 2>We have Gary from Centennial Holding, so Gary, stick with us.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to Carlos Baron first, but then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll make sure we get your call on because I

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<v Speaker 2>know you've got some comments about our governor's candidate that

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<v Speaker 2>we just had on. But what's us on our hotline

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<v Speaker 2>is Carlos Baron. He's the newly minted House Minority Whip

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<v Speaker 2>and representative out of House District forty eight. Carlos, How

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<v Speaker 2>you doing this afternoon?

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing, surif frames? Thank you for having me

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<v Speaker 3>on again, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a pleasure. You know, it's not often that we

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<v Speaker 2>have someone who's part of the news break while we're

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<v Speaker 2>on where we're at commercial who then also gets to

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<v Speaker 2>come on and tell us exactly how this played out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're relatively new down at the State House

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of taking a big swing here to become

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<v Speaker 2>the new Republican whip. What does that mean? For you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first of.

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<v Speaker 5>All, I'm one honors to gain the confidence of my caucus,

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<v Speaker 5>my colleagues, uh, to be able to.

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<v Speaker 4>Step into this role.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, this this whole session, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Have been working hard to getting to know every single

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<v Speaker 5>one on my my colleagues on both sides of the

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<v Speaker 5>fial most of all in my Republican caucus. And and

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<v Speaker 5>and I was able to gain their confidence to be

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<v Speaker 5>able to be their next minority whip, a job that

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<v Speaker 5>really that's what entails bringing people together, bringing the caucus together,

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<v Speaker 5>and moving forward with winning votes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, do you get some kind of cool actual whip

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<v Speaker 2>like you know Raiders of the Lost ARGs. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to have something cool, right exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I wouldn't I wouldn't say no if somebody wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to give me.

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<v Speaker 6>A whip, you know, I could use that on the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, There you go. I make I make

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<v Speaker 2>light of it, But it's a it's a very important role.

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<v Speaker 2>And for the listeners, I mean, your job is to

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<v Speaker 2>try to without any pun intended, whip up the votes

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<v Speaker 2>you need to get people to support the agenda of

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans or and vice versa, to try to oppose

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<v Speaker 2>certain measures from the Democrats. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 5>That is one hundred percent correct. So yeah, my job

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<v Speaker 5>with entails is whipping up votes, bringing the caucus together

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<v Speaker 5>to have these discussions on which bills that we're going

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<v Speaker 5>to be supporting, why we're supporting them, which ones we

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<v Speaker 5>should be opposing, why we oppose them, and then come

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<v Speaker 5>up with the game plan to argue these bills at

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<v Speaker 5>the well to to try to convince the other side

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<v Speaker 5>you know this is not a good idea, you should.

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<v Speaker 3>Vote for this. This is This is the.

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<v Speaker 5>Job of the minority whip, and I'm totally.

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<v Speaker 3>Prepared for it, and I know my caucus very well.

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<v Speaker 5>The personalities, what the strengths all. We have many great

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<v Speaker 5>legislators on the Republican side that have very good, strong strengths,

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<v Speaker 5>and also knowing the districts of our representatives and the

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<v Speaker 5>Republican caucuss, knowing that some districts are are pretty volatile,

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<v Speaker 5>and and being able to give them that little, that

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<v Speaker 5>little nudge to to hey, this is this, this is

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<v Speaker 5>for you.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the type of battle you need for your district.

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<v Speaker 2>Right that makes a lot of sense. And just mechanically,

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<v Speaker 2>since you guys are in recess, how is that vote taken?

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<v Speaker 2>How I mean, I know you didn't have a you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't have a special session or anything to determine this.

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<v Speaker 2>How was that vote taken? How did you guys kind

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<v Speaker 2>of campaign for this? And you know, how did that?

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<v Speaker 2>How did that transpire?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, historically, this, this vote, the leadership vote, is not

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<v Speaker 5>publicly publicly announced.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not really like like we go out and we

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<v Speaker 3>get campaign signs for it. It's it's all just a

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<v Speaker 3>vote within our own caucus.

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<v Speaker 5>So historically, also this vote is taking this right before

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<v Speaker 5>session and and and most likely being done in person

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<v Speaker 5>because we're all we're all in the in the vicinity

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<v Speaker 5>and getting ready for session to come up.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, this representer of Armagas, who I also

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned in my in my nomine nation speech.

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<v Speaker 5>He did a great job in this position. He decided

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<v Speaker 5>to step down to resign because he's making a move

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<v Speaker 5>forward in his own personal life, which is very honorable

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<v Speaker 5>and very accepted that he's got to move to Arizona

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<v Speaker 5>for a new job.

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<v Speaker 3>And so this is something that we don't really do.

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<v Speaker 5>This time of year. But we did a zoom caucus meeting,

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<v Speaker 5>a zoom vote. It was a voice vote, so every member.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, our Caucustra went down to the roster of

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<v Speaker 5>members and we all voted for.

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<v Speaker 3>The phenominee publicly, and then that's how it went down.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, congratulations Carlos. I know this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to put more work on your plate, but I know

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<v Speaker 2>you're a hard worker and you're very relational, and just

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<v Speaker 2>in the short time you've been down at the state Capitol,

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<v Speaker 2>it's obvious that you've made some inroads down there. So

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<v Speaker 2>good luck to you. And again, thanks for coming on

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<v Speaker 2>the show and kind of breaking it down for us,

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<v Speaker 2>and congratulations to this new honor that has been bestowing

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<v Speaker 2>upon you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you every of my Sheriffames. I hope to see

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<v Speaker 3>you here soon. Body.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet nice talking with you with that. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>a collar on the line. Gary from Centennial, You've been

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<v Speaker 2>waiting quite a while, and I want to get to

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<v Speaker 2>you because you have some comments about Joshua Griffin, candidate

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<v Speaker 2>for governor. Gary. Yeah, what do you got Gary?

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<v Speaker 6>Hi there, Sarah Fremes. Yeah, I I as soon as

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<v Speaker 6>you got Don Cock and I flipped over. I went

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<v Speaker 6>on to get next account, you know, and he has

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<v Speaker 6>a something that's posted on here about I had to

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<v Speaker 6>test that far right politics as much as I do

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<v Speaker 6>the far left. Okay, I will never pans her fall

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<v Speaker 6>or bow to the so called magi cult. I'd like

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<v Speaker 6>some definition on that, because you know, I'm not hardcore maggot,

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<v Speaker 6>but I'm as conservative. But I would never.

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<v Speaker 3>Bash Well.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a huge tunk of this party.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know that. We had a text come in

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of said the same thing. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>probably hurting yourself if you're walking away from the Republican

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<v Speaker 2>Party but running as a Republican. I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's a different strategy, There's no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 6>Gary Well, I think troubling when he has idea for

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<v Speaker 6>light rail, it looks like connecting Puebwell to Fort Collins.

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<v Speaker 2>There's I don't know. I think the light rail thing

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<v Speaker 2>is uh, it's a pie in the sky mess in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion. I don't think there's any there's there's just

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<v Speaker 2>not a feasible pathway to make that even make sense

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind.

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<v Speaker 6>Me neither. Well, So, yeah, that's that's something what I

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<v Speaker 6>found in here, and I just that was just a

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<v Speaker 6>quick right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary. What I would I would suggest to you is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hit him up on Twitter, hit him up

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<v Speaker 2>on X whatever you call it nowadays, and ask him

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<v Speaker 2>to explain it. Uh, you know, maybe maybe we're reading

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<v Speaker 2>into this wrong. I don't know, but sometimes the best

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<v Speaker 2>way to get a get an answer asked the question.

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<v Speaker 6>And one of the there's a couple of people at

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<v Speaker 6>ask them in the comments underneath that post. Do you

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<v Speaker 6>never responded to either one of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Well give them another one who knows. So from the

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<v Speaker 2>people that we've had on, has anyone resonated with you

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<v Speaker 2>at Gary where you say that's my candidate? Have you

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<v Speaker 2>picked your candidate? Have you picked your horse yet? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you still waiting?

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<v Speaker 6>Still? Are still waiting on? You all running? And I'll

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<v Speaker 6>go through and I'll uh, I'm pretty uh pretty diligent.

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<v Speaker 6>Whatever I do this, I go through and me too,

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<v Speaker 6>Me too, somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a candidate out there that you think are

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<v Speaker 2>a potential candidate out there that you'd love to see

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<v Speaker 2>hop in the race that isn't announced yet? Is there

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<v Speaker 2>someone out there that just you know that that would

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>I actually really like Heidi, But yeah, I don't I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't want to speak for her.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think she'll be on here Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>You can call in and ask her then, So that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's a your answer. I mean, you know, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>be candid. Going up against the Polist machine is tough.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tough for any candidate, and she she went in

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<v Speaker 2>during a really tough time. I mean, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think Heidi worked.

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<v Speaker 6>Ahead that people didn't see the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you're one hundred percent right on that, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm I'm a political nerd. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>you might be as well. And I say that affectionately.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the debates and you're right, it wasn't even close.

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<v Speaker 2>And if that were the Yeah, if that were the

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<v Speaker 2>barometer by which people voted, we would have we would

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<v Speaker 2>not have Governor Polus in office right now.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's for darns absolutely well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like I said, she'll be on here Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>You can call in and see if you can convince her.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still I would still like to see Dan Kaplis

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<v Speaker 2>jump in the race, but that's uh, that's my personal

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<v Speaker 2>racehorse at this point. I'm probably I'm probably not going

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<v Speaker 2>to see that happen. But who knows. I mean, anybody

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<v Speaker 2>can get motive at any time. I don't think Heidi

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<v Speaker 2>was necessarily looking at her whole life and saying I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to run for governor. But you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>she gave it the College try. She just gave it

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<v Speaker 2>the College tried a really tough political time. Well, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for calling in, Gary, appreciate that and have a good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate it, you bet. So that's Gary's take on

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<v Speaker 2>on Joshua Griffin. What's say the rest of you? And

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<v Speaker 2>in addition, you know, congratulations to Carlos Baron out there.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had Ryan armagost On several times kind of in

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<v Speaker 2>his in his escapades with the Second Amendment Caucus and

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<v Speaker 2>fighting back and forth with r mg O, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when he was looking at at walking away and some

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<v Speaker 2>people that want to fill his seat. But he's got

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<v Speaker 2>some immediate duties that had to be filled and that's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those is being the minority whip. So congratulations

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<v Speaker 2>to Carlos Baron. Great guy. He lives in Fort Lopton.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a chance to know him since he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>gotten elected to that seat and very I mean he's

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<v Speaker 2>a very thoughtful guy. I don't think he's taking a

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<v Speaker 2>vote on an issue that would cross with law enforcement

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<v Speaker 2>that he hasn't called me and or texted me and

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<v Speaker 2>gotten my opinion on on where I stand on particular issues.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's about all you can ask for. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you've got to comments on any of that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>Governor's candidate that we had on a little earlier, Joshua Griffin.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also got a text message that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>actually sent it to my personal phone and said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Trump lost Colorado, so maybe this guy's onto something.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe his his pathway to his candidacy makes more sense

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<v Speaker 2>because Trump didn't do very well in Colorado and the

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans haven't fared so well here, so maybe maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>to be interesting, It's it's going to be a cage fight.

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<v Speaker 2>To watch how some of these candidates move forward, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know how they kind of navigate the landscape, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean bypassing all the normal events and you know, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of engaging with non traditional voters hadn't been tried to

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<v Speaker 2>my knowledge. So maybe that's maybe that's the winning combination.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we're going to find out soon enough. Also

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<v Speaker 2>got a text that reminded me of a little scenario

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<v Speaker 2>I was in. One of my friends here says nice

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<v Speaker 2>seeing you at the parade. Keep up the good radio,

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<v Speaker 2>and he refers to me as his beer his beard broke,

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<v Speaker 2>because we both have similarly styled beards. So with that,

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<v Speaker 2>when I walked in the Stampede Parade this year, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's got to be I think the first one I

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<v Speaker 2>and I've walked in I don't know how many parades

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<v Speaker 2>in Weld County. I think we're the parade in this

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<v Speaker 2>or thirty two parades that happened during the summer season.

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's so many little communities throughout World County, four

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<v Speaker 2>thousand square miles. Everybody has their own celebration. But in

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<v Speaker 2>all those years of taking part in a parade and

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<v Speaker 2>walking with the Republican Party, or walking for my own

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<v Speaker 2>candidacy and trying to get my name recognition out there

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<v Speaker 2>for my own races, I've never seen anyone that was

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<v Speaker 2>as fully triggered as an individual during the Stampede parade

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend in Greeley. And I've had a lady stand

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<v Speaker 2>of a schoolhouse in Milliican and double handed flip me

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<v Speaker 2>off for the entire time that the float went by

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<v Speaker 2>back in like I don't know, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>She was not a fan of my campaign or me personally.

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<v Speaker 2>She never said a word. She just stood there and

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<v Speaker 2>she was not a fan. But you know, I've had

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of people, you know, support me and vote for

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<v Speaker 2>usually feedback is pretty good in the parades, But in

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<v Speaker 2>this particular parade in Weld County, which is definitely conservative territory,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a person that was walking with the Republican float,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had on a shirt that said it's a

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<v Speaker 2>big picture of Trump's face on the shirt, and on

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<v Speaker 2>the shirt it says sexiest man Alive. And it's referring

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<v Speaker 2>to Donald Trump, and it's you know, it's a controversial shirt,

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<v Speaker 2>And this guy who's walking with the Republicans, he's just

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<v Speaker 2>walking down the street, you know, he's got his MAGA

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<v Speaker 2>hat on and supporting Republican politics again in Greeley, Weld County, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>And this viewer of the parade from the sidelines, he

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<v Speaker 2>just gets extremely upset and basically spends the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the parade from about the quarter mark in And the

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<v Speaker 2>parade in greeley's pretty long if you've ever set through it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a long walk that you take down.

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<v Speaker 2>You walked from the university all the way down to

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<v Speaker 2>the north end of town. But this guy walked along

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<v Speaker 2>on the sidewalk on the parade route for the entire

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<v Speaker 2>length of three quarters of the length of the parade,

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<v Speaker 2>screaming at our individual that was wearing the Trump shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just triggered. He was screaming and yelling and

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<v Speaker 2>arguing that Trump wasn't really the president, that forty nine

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<v Speaker 2>percent wasn't the majority. I mean, just the most ridiculous things,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way along the parade route, all while families

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<v Speaker 2>are sitting there trying to enjoy the parade. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>weaving in and out of these families while he's walking

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<v Speaker 2>down the sidewalk, just screaming and yelling back and forth

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<v Speaker 2>at our group as we walked in the parade. And

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<v Speaker 2>but I couldn't really hear exactly what was being said.

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<v Speaker 2>There was some video that was posted later on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just I don't understand people. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the triggering effect that the political process is having on folks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little unhinged at this point, I guess, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, the fifteen plush years that I've been walking

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<v Speaker 2>in parades, And granted I supported Ken Buck when he

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<v Speaker 2>stance back then. It sure wouldn't be a popular stance

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<v Speaker 2>now with some of the stuff that he went through

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<v Speaker 2>towards the end of the he I guess brought on himself

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of his tenure in Congress, but even

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<v Speaker 2>supporting ken Buck in those Senate races and then in

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<v Speaker 2>like what we saw at the parade in Greeley. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>just unhinged lunacy. And I don't know ruin the parade

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<v Speaker 2>for well, I shouldn't say ruined. The parade probably caused

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<v Speaker 2>some questions of kids, you know, to ask their parents,

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<v Speaker 2>what's wrong with that guy? And he seemed he looked

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<v Speaker 2>totally normal. It wasn't like he was a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a deranged homeless person that had had fixated on the

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<v Speaker 2>guy on our person in the Trump shirt. He was

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<v Speaker 2>obviously a demic that was not happy, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>have something I've never seen. I hope I never see

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<v Speaker 2>it again, but just complete lunacy. Again, where does this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff come from? But we have triggering on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side too. You got the Epstein list, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people a little upset with what's not coming out, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's what we're going to get from David here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, he's calling in from Fort Collins. He's got

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<v Speaker 2>to comment about the parade. Let's go to David. David,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you got for us?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you for taking my call. Was listening to.

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<v Speaker 6>Your story about the man in the parade wearing the

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<v Speaker 4>That is a friend of mine from my church, and

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<v Speaker 2>Also, yeah, he's I won't say his name because I

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<v Speaker 4>Goes, wears it proudly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, Well, hey, I'm sorry, but we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for calling in. If you're listening to the Dankplass

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<v Speaker 2>Show here on six point thirty k how with Welcunty

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<v Speaker 7>You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>And with us on the line, is someone that many

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<v Speaker 2>of you know from not only this radio show, but

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<v Speaker 2>his own radio show a few years back. And he

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<v Speaker 2>a district attorney for the twenty third Judicial District. George Brouckler,

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm living the dream one man. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>How is your fourth?

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<v Speaker 2>It was great. We were talking about some of the

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<v Speaker 2>think I checked off like ninety percent one of them

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<v Speaker 4>But still have all your fingers and toes and all

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's safety third. But we kept all the

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<v Speaker 4>It was interesting man. My son, my youngest set of

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<v Speaker 4>baseball tournament out in a place called Ogden, Utah. Not

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<v Speaker 3>Remember, yes, you're at it, but.

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<v Speaker 4>It just was different. And I didn't get a light

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<v Speaker 4>than the old days when we were in the cul

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<v Speaker 3>You never knew yaw quick diffuse.

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<v Speaker 2>We had one of those experiences with a rocket with

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<v Speaker 2>not on to talk about fireworks. You're on to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about a case that you just recently prosecuted in your

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<v Speaker 2>drunk and the success you had in that prosecution kind

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<v Speaker 2>see on one of these cases. Tell us what exactly happened.

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<v Speaker 4>they'd get it, but they'd be eligible mandatory stacking of

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<v Speaker 4>charges to four to twelve year very very weak. So

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<v Speaker 4>we had this case that took place, my gosh, just

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<v Speaker 4>about a year ago in Douglas County, down off a

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<v Speaker 4>Plumb Creek, where a lieutenant colonel, Superstar Air Force active

426
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<v Speaker 4>duty cast pilot guy three deployments. I mean, this dude's

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<v Speaker 4>a legit patriot, right, takes his family to the rest

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<v Speaker 4>day of the Douglas County Fair. Yeah, zero euro takes

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<v Speaker 4>his family to the Douglas County Fair. By the way,

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<v Speaker 4>survives all the bad guys, everything that was thrown at

431
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<v Speaker 4>him in war, survived all that. He's at the gas

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<v Speaker 4>station at the seven eleven. They're off of Plum Creek

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<v Speaker 4>filling up when along comes Paul Stevenson and Paul Wayne

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<v Speaker 4>Stevenson had had a couple prior to Uys before got

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<v Speaker 4>himself liquored up because his wife had left him. He

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<v Speaker 4>was feeling down and blue, and he drank all the

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<v Speaker 4>alcohol in his house, including a pint of fireball whiskey

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<v Speaker 4>in a couple and then he pours himself into his

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<v Speaker 4>raised truck, takes off down westbound Plumb Creek, and then,

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<v Speaker 4>for reasons that I attribute to him intentionally wanting to

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<v Speaker 4>harm himself and not caring about anybody else, he drives

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<v Speaker 4>over about four lanes of traffic, hops a curb into

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<v Speaker 4>if you can picture, a gas station, and Karine's head

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<v Speaker 4>first towards the gas pumps, hits this car with four

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<v Speaker 4>kids in it. The car hits the hero the dad

446
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<v Speaker 4>so hard it takes his foot off above the ankle

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<v Speaker 4>and sends him flying about fifteen feet closed head injury.

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<v Speaker 4>And even though he fights like a champ, he dies

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<v Speaker 4>in front of his kids. Basically, his kids are like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's daddy. Is my daddy? Is my daddy going to

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<v Speaker 4>be okay? So when it came to charging this thing,

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<v Speaker 4>it didn't make sense to put this kuy in a

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<v Speaker 4>position where he was going to get prot potentially so

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<v Speaker 4>we decided to go appropriately aggressive and we charged him

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<v Speaker 4>with first degree murder on an extreme indifference to the

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<v Speaker 4>value of human life theory. To court convinced the jury,

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<v Speaker 4>they found him guilty, and then last Thursday, right before

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<v Speaker 4>Independence Day, the judge imposed life without parole plus ninety

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<v Speaker 4>two consecutive years of the Department of Corrections.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it for this guy. He will leave prison feet first,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's exactly how it should be.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have to applaud you for that, because, as

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<v Speaker 2>you well know, that's not the typical route that prosecutors

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<v Speaker 2>might look at. And no knock on some of your colleagues,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's a very non traditional route for prosecuting that

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<v Speaker 2>type of case. But a very good outcome and one

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<v Speaker 2>that is deserve it of that type of crime.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree. I wish I could tell you that this

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<v Speaker 4>was a tool that was available in every one of

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<v Speaker 4>these But it's as suppose we had going for us,

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<v Speaker 4>or a combination of his history, his driving, his conduct,

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<v Speaker 4>and complete lack of remorse all the way through sentencing.

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<v Speaker 4>The judge says at the time of sentencing, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>mister Stevenson, throughout the entire trial, everything has been about you.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember you testifying and saying nobody cares about me,

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<v Speaker 4>and even now here at sentencing, you barely say anything

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<v Speaker 4>about the victims. In the PSI, the pre sentenced Investigation Report.

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<v Speaker 4>When asked to comment on the victims, his written statement was, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess for victims.

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<v Speaker 3>Like anything you wanted to Yeah, I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>So all of these things added up to create an

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<v Speaker 4>environment where he was not going to be given a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of mercy, and deservedly so. But you know other jurisdictions,

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<v Speaker 4>could they do this in some of those cases? Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>I think so. But it's not riskless, right right, riskless

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<v Speaker 4>of a jury and have them go well, it doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 4>like murder. I don't care how you define it. It

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't feel like murder.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's not like they can drop down, and

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<v Speaker 2>they can't drop down and say we're going to give

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<v Speaker 2>him something less. I mean, it's all or nothing, right, Well, so.

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<v Speaker 4>The great question. So in this particular case, the charges

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<v Speaker 4>had originally included vehicular homicide and then some child to

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<v Speaker 4>be stuff, but the defense journey had said, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>coming to court and I'm gonna plead guilty to those things.

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<v Speaker 4>And I originally we had objected and said, well, there's

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<v Speaker 4>no chance that you should. You know, you can't plead

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<v Speaker 4>guilty to just the charges you like and go on

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<v Speaker 4>the others. And not only did the judge and there

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<v Speaker 4>was a statute that leaves some wiggle room here say look,

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<v Speaker 4>she was inclined to do it, she also left open

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<v Speaker 4>the possibility and this freaked me out that she might

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<v Speaker 4>let him actually have his client testify in front of

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<v Speaker 4>the jury that he pled guilty to those lesser charges,

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<v Speaker 4>thus setting up setting up the argument, you see, which

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<v Speaker 4>is I've already taken responsibility for my conduct. Please don't

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<v Speaker 4>hit me with the murder. Those big bad prosecutors. So

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<v Speaker 4>we dumped all those lesser charges, Okay, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 4>the gutsy move on the murder. And then the defense

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<v Speaker 4>journey shows up at the close of evidence and says, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to offer a lesser, non includive, criminally negligent homicide.

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<v Speaker 4>So they did have a lesser charge, but the chasm.

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<v Speaker 3>Between them was so great that I just think that.

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<v Speaker 4>Jury's like one. We don't like you. Two were horrified

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<v Speaker 4>by your conduct and your attitude. We're going to get

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<v Speaker 4>you with the murder, and so this guy is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be in prison forever, no doubt there'll be some

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<v Speaker 4>post conviction of pellet stuff. But this dude is tuned

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<v Speaker 4>up good well, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, not to be lost with the listeners. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know that takes some stones, George. I mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>I say that because it would be very easy just

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<v Speaker 2>to go for the you know, the the easy charge.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what you did, it definitely was. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>without risk, as you said, but it's it's in the

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<v Speaker 2>interest of the family. Was the family supportive of that

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<v Speaker 2>decision the whole way through, Steve.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never seen anything like the support this thing had.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you can picture throughout the trial, not only

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<v Speaker 4>is the wife there.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's now has to muggy right right.

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<v Speaker 4>For relatively young kids forever by herself without the dad,

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<v Speaker 4>but she's there, the Air Force sent office I'm talking

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<v Speaker 4>for the great officers, Majors and lieutenant colonels to sit

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<v Speaker 4>in the court room every day trial and the traffic

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<v Speaker 4>unit from the Castle Rock PD who worked this case. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we're so moved by this. After they got done.

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<v Speaker 3>Testifying, they would sit down in the courtroom and.

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<v Speaker 4>Come back every day. I've never seen anything like it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how invested they were in this case, and I

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<v Speaker 4>got to believe it paid off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it sucks that you have to go through the process

545
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<v Speaker 2>like that in the state of Colorado because our legal

546
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<v Speaker 2>system is so watered down. But I'm glad you're willing

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<v Speaker 2>to take those risks and do it on the cases

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<v Speaker 2>that are most appropriate. George, thanks for coming on giving

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<v Speaker 2>us that rundown. Thanks for the story, and keep hitting

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<v Speaker 2>those home runs. Man, you're you're knocking out of the park.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like you're back in your wheelhouse.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, this is a great job. And for the listeners.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, we are still trying to craft some

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<v Speaker 4>sort of a Sheriff and da meet up right here

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<v Speaker 4>on eron absolutely losing it for the future.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get it done. At some point. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen, and then they're going to close the

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<v Speaker 2>radio station down. All right, Thanks George, thanks for being

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<v Speaker 2>on with us. We'll cut the break and pay a

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<v Speaker 2>few bills as we come back. We'll clear up a

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<v Speaker 2>few phone calls and read some text messages.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to the Dan Caplas Show on six point

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<v Speaker 2>thirty k How with Well Kenny Sheriff Steve Raams.

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<v Speaker 7>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea as the guest host today. You know, we've had

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<v Speaker 2>quite a wide range of topics here today, a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of everything from Fourth of July to people losing

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<v Speaker 2>their mind over parades to George Brockler in that last segment.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that guy just continues to lean into the

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<v Speaker 2>job that he's doing down there in the twenty third

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<v Speaker 2>Judicial District. I love the wins that he's getting. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the fact that he's so passionate about what he does.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's quite a few of those those types of

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<v Speaker 2>district attorneys out there. I happen to have a really

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<v Speaker 2>good one up in up in Weld County in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteenth Judicial District, Michael Rourke. He's just not as much

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<v Speaker 2>for radio interviews as George is, but Michael hits home

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<v Speaker 2>runs too. So it's good having some of those guys

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<v Speaker 2>who still believe in the rule a law and still

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<v Speaker 2>enforce the law. But in this last little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>time we got here, if you want to call in,

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<v Speaker 2>you said, there's still an opportunity three oh three seven one,

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<v Speaker 2>three eight two five five, and you can definitely still

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<v Speaker 2>text in. He can start your text with Dan and

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<v Speaker 2>text into five seven seven three nine. We've got a

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<v Speaker 2>couple here that I want to read. One of them's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of funny. It says, Hello, sheriff, reams, I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you two thumbs up and a ten star review. He's

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<v Speaker 2>an El Paso County resident. Said it hasn't been able

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<v Speaker 2>to vote for me. However, if I ran for governor

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<v Speaker 2>or senator or something else, he'd be he'd be engaged

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<v Speaker 2>to do so, or she maybe. Oh no, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a he. It's Mark says, God bless you and all

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<v Speaker 2>the women of the well Anty Sheriff's office. I appreciate that, Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any intentions to run for any statewide

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<v Speaker 2>office or any local office quite at this point, but

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<v Speaker 2>who knows. Things can always change. And then from Mark, you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to be out of a job soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, yeah, I am going to be out.

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<v Speaker 4>Of a job. Never say never.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying never. I'm just saying it's highly unlikely.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the worst reason for someone to run

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<v Speaker 2>for political office is just because they need a job.

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<v Speaker 2>They got to be inspired to do so, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not that inspired to run for a statewide office. So

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<v Speaker 2>who knows. And we have a text here from our

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<v Speaker 2>loyal listener, Alexa, and this is more of a public

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<v Speaker 2>service announcement, but I have a story to go along

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<v Speaker 2>with it, says. Colorado's eleventh annual Law Enforcement Day is Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>July twentieth in the Civic Center in Denver from I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's Civic Center Park in Denver from three

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<v Speaker 2>pm to six pm. You can get more information about

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<v Speaker 2>it at pro Police Rally dot com. And back in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, during the Summer of Love, I attended that

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<v Speaker 2>pro Police rally and several others that had occurred around

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<v Speaker 2>the state. As you guys probably remember, that was a

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<v Speaker 2>time where law enforcement was under attack, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>felt it was good to go out and support the

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<v Speaker 2>police and other jurisdictions other than just my own. And

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<v Speaker 2>I made the decision to go down to the Civic

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<v Speaker 2>Center Park. And you know, that was during the height

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<v Speaker 2>of co with lockdowns and Antifa takeovers in downtown Denver

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<v Speaker 2>and homeless people joining in with Antifa. So we set

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<v Speaker 2>up for the rally. I went down there with a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of thin blue line flags and handed them out

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<v Speaker 2>to the people that were showing up, and just as

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<v Speaker 2>the event started, man, we were inundated with I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know a better way to say it than folks with

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<v Speaker 2>Antifa and Antifa monikers. And they were carrying skateboards and

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<v Speaker 2>pots and pans and canned food and they weren't there

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<v Speaker 2>to cook us anything or have a little skate party.

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<v Speaker 2>They were using all those things as weapons. And the

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<v Speaker 2>Antifa folks quickly surrounded those of us that were there

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<v Speaker 2>for the pro police rally, while many members of the

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<v Speaker 2>Denver SWAT Team and I don't know, like a Denver

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<v Speaker 2>Special Response team stood by and didn't necessarily intervene. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't blame them, I know they had been given

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<v Speaker 2>orders to stand down. But it got pretty heated. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Ron mcglachlin, who's one of the organizers, got assaulted

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<v Speaker 2>by a guy with a skateboard. Took some stitches to

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<v Speaker 2>the head. A few other people got a little beat up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had to actually grab Michelle Malkin back from

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<v Speaker 2>the crowd she was there as a guest speaker, and

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<v Speaker 2>keep her from being assaulted and we packed her into

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<v Speaker 2>a car along with a few others and they evacuated

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<v Speaker 2>the area, and then most of us made our way out,

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<v Speaker 2>and finally the Denver Denver Swat Team or the group

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<v Speaker 2>that was there, they kind of went against orders and

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<v Speaker 2>decided we're going to bring order back to this situation

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<v Speaker 2>and formed a line between the Antifa protesters if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>or antagonists and our own group and allowed everybody to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the venue as safely as possible. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was ugly. I mean, it was a bad situation,

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<v Speaker 2>not one that I hope has ever repeated, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>not anything even close to what we'll see on July twentieth.

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<v Speaker 2>All that being said, I'm going to be in Texas

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<v Speaker 2>visiting my dad, who's a listener Dave Dreams down in Amarillo.

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<v Speaker 2>So I won't make this particular rally, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe one's surrounding it. And we have Kevin from Boulder

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<v Speaker 2>calling in. He wants to comment on I think something

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<v Speaker 2>about the parades. Kevin, are you with us?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Greeley, Yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you got the old.

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<v Speaker 6>Andy Griffiths show where the music group the.

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<v Speaker 2>Darlings, Yeah, I watch it every night.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the girl in that in that family is from Greeley.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no kidding. I had no idea, and I've I've

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<v Speaker 2>lived in Greeley for the Greeley area for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize that's where she had come from. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you remember her name?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of her name even on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, yeah, she's a heck of a singer. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, all the Hillbillies come down and and

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<v Speaker 2>uh she's their lead singer. Well, Kevin, thanks for that information.

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<v Speaker 2>How was your fourth of July.

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<v Speaker 3>Boring?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, you live in Boulder, so you can't do

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<v Speaker 2>anything over there, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I got ten cats, so oh you had.

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<v Speaker 2>That all right? Fair enough? Well, Kevin, thanks for calling

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<v Speaker 2>in and appreciate that information. I'm gonna look up her

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<v Speaker 2>name just so I have it for future reference and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do a little digging as to her connections to

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<v Speaker 2>this to the town of Grilly. Thanks for calling in, Kevin.

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<v Speaker 2>Another text here, we got one from Alexa again, says

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<v Speaker 2>Sheriff Rimes and Brocoler guy is sketchy. I'm glad he's

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<v Speaker 2>the DA in the twenty third Judicial District. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I usually call him Jorgey, just because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want people to know we're actually friends. But yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>George guy. He is a sketchy character, but he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>a great job. And she also says, just kidding.

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<v Speaker 5>She likes, we got to get you two together.

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<v Speaker 2>We go so we don't even sit together at events

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<v Speaker 2>because it goes haywire. I mean, it's like if we

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<v Speaker 2>were in class together, the teacher would separate us for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Either way, be back with you tomorrow. I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to focus on something if you're planning on listening. What

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<v Speaker 2>are the parts of the big beautiful Bill you love

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<v Speaker 2>and what do you hate? We're gonna talk talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that tomorrow here on the Dan Kapli Show six point

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<v Speaker 2>thirty k How with Welcomey Sheriff Steve Raims as your

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<v Speaker 2>guest host. Thanks again for listening.
