WEBVTT 1 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:49.880 Using going on something like its sing at ASA's. 2 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:57.920 Theory and see it sting still. 3 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:42.400 Ladies and gentlemen, Hello, we got Buck. We got Buck 4 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:44.680 in the big screen. Ladies and gentlemen, damis monsieur is 5 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:48.239 welcome to Meet the Blessed, a panel show of Orthodox 6 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:51.359 Christian commentators, thinkers, and creators and clergy where we get 7 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:56.159 together to discuss the intersection of Orthodox Christianity, politics and culture. 8 00:01:56.680 --> 00:02:00.840 It's like pressed but blessed. Uh. This week we have 9 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:04.359 with us a fine selection some of the finest minds 10 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:06.359 we can think of I could think of and get together. 11 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:09.639 Of course we have Buck Johnson, the creator and host 12 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:14.639 Humble narrator, narrator and host of the Counterflow Prodcast, Jim Yatris, 13 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:17.599 author of I Try to Warn You, of course, my 14 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:20.639 co host on the weekly show Then and Now, which 15 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:22.919 we can get a hold of on a maryon Chuck Now, 16 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:27.759 and Jay Dyer, who I believe goes without no introductions 17 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:31.039 needed with this panel. But gentlemen, I thank you so 18 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:35.879 much for joining us. The whole concept of the show 19 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:37.759 is a bit like Meet the Press, where we get 20 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:43.080 to these gentlemen together to discuss politics, culture, anything that's 21 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:44.960 been on their minds or anything that they've been covering 22 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:49.960 on their own shows. As it relates. Buck, I'd like 23 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:52.319 to start with you because you said that you have 24 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:55.800 a rant already saved up, so please let the people 25 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:58.919 know all about you and then get right into what 26 00:02:59.039 --> 00:02:59.800 you want to discuss. 27 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:02.759 Do people still know about meet the Press? 28 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:05.919 It's still it's still going. 29 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:10.080 Okay, I didn't know that I want to be isn't 30 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:11.560 wasn't Pat Buchannan on there. 31 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:15.560 It's a bit of a boomer reference, but yeah, it 32 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:15.919 is that. 33 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:20.400 Yeah, my favorite generation, my favorite one sitting on this 34 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:26.039 panel with us. Yeah, Buck Johnson Counterflow podcast And now 35 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:32.919 I was asked by Dissident Media, who is the organize 36 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:35.879 organization above my show? That sort of puts it out, 37 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:38.520 if you will, can you do a sub stack once 38 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:42.360 a month where you write something because we we want 39 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.080 to see you do that and not just interview people. 40 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:49.680 And it's like when you lift weights and you have 41 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:53.479 a weakness and your program and you're like, let me 42 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:58.039 skip leg day because I'm better at these other things. 43 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:03.159 And so writing was not my forte at this junction 44 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:05.919 in my life. But I said, well, then if I'm 45 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:07.680 not good at it, maybe I'll give it a shot. 46 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:10.599 And I woke up one morning with this urge to 47 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:14.080 write about something similar that you've sort of referenced, Jason 48 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:20.240 many times on your show, with this mushy Christianity sort 49 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:27.120 of bubbling up under the surface, and I think, yeah, 50 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:31.319 some of that, and I came up with hot Top 51 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:34.879 at Christianity. I'm pretty sure that was my spiritual father, 52 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:38.639 father Turboqualls. Maybe I sent the whole thing to him 53 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:40.199 and he gave me the blessing to put it out, 54 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:43.120 and he didn't say, yeah, that was me, but I 55 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:46.279 think it was him and Hot Topic. After I released it, 56 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:49.199 I thought, now, I don't know if people get that reference, 57 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:53.079 because I come from the punk rock subculture and we 58 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:55.600 used to make fun of a store in the mall 59 00:04:56.120 --> 00:05:00.480 that was sort of corporate punk rock for the asses. 60 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:06.160 I'm called hot Topic. And after the Charlie Kirk assassination, 61 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:12.199 the public execution, it impacted me. I'm a firefighter for 62 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:15.439 twenty seven years, and even seeing that still sort of 63 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:20.639 messed with me a bit. And then you sort of 64 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:23.959 have this lull afterwards and everyone's collecting their thoughts and 65 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:26.879 their conspiracy theories, and you see that bounce all around, 66 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:30.839 and rightfully so in a way, because they're not releasing 67 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:36.439 any information that's very valid or pertinent. But then I 68 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:41.000 see these people either that I follow on Twitter or 69 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:45.879 that maybe show up somehow in my feed. And obviously 70 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:51.079 after twenty twenty, I mean after the Biden administration, the 71 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:53.839 culture started to swing right as you sort of predicted, 72 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:57.319 and many others did as well. And then you start 73 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.279 seeing people sort of switch their tune. And then it 74 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:05.240 became oh my god, wake up, pray up, and these 75 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:08.680 sort of like kind of bumper sticker, hot topic slogans. 76 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:11.519 And I was like, why does this bother me so bad? 77 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:18.120 And I talked to people that I care about and 78 00:06:18.199 --> 00:06:20.600 trust in my spiritual life. Basically I don't want to 79 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:24.079 name names, but like, why is this bothering me? Am 80 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:29.720 I being judgmental? And there's something like off putting about 81 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:31.639 some of it. And I'm also not going to name 82 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:36.160 names and the influencers, but we've all seen them. There's 83 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:41.959 people jumping on bandwagons, and I do think a net 84 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:46.759 positive from this, like massive growth, you know, we start seeing. 85 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:51.720 For one, they were saying Charlie's goal was to overcrowd Heaven. 86 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:52.240 And things like that. 87 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:56.160 Not my style of speaking about this sort of thing, 88 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:59.639 but I get it and and then oh my god, 89 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.319 my true was full. And then it was also happening 90 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:05.720 to orthodox churches after that. I've I've talked to a 91 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:07.959 few priests and they said, people like myself and you 92 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:12.120 Jason that came to the church during the COVID wave, 93 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:14.800 they could sort of call it. Now we're in like 94 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:19.000 wave part two where something's happened, and that's great. And 95 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:21.399 I do think I spoke with Father Peter Here's and 96 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:25.360 Father Turbo on different episodes about right after the Charlie thing. 97 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.720 These people, they're all many of them are young. And 98 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:33.920 I think the good thing about Charlie Kirk influencing a 99 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:36.680 massive amount of young people was that it's some with 100 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:39.519 the Internet, the age of information. As our friend Adam 101 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:45.000 Patrick says, there's no excuse to not keep digging for 102 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:48.319 the truth. And thank god people like Jay are out 103 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:50.839 there on the Alex Jones platform and his own platform 104 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:54.000 of course, and m Jim and you Jason two. So 105 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:56.399 I think that there's an instinct that people will have 106 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:59.120 a small segment of them. There's always like a remnant. 107 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:03.040 I suppose like to keep finding and searching and searching. 108 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:06.000 But there's also been this point where there's like a 109 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:09.600 stopping point on social media. It's like, I'm in the church, 110 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.720 not the church. I'm in a church. I went to church, 111 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:15.519 pray up, bro, And some of that was bugging me 112 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.439 a little bit. And I'm sort of still navigating how 113 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:23.160 to not come across as judgmental and go, well, that's 114 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:26.639 not a church, dude. There's like a plexiglass around the 115 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:29.759 drum kit and stuff like this, And so I struggle 116 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:34.279 with speaking out against that and trying to stay in 117 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.159 my lane as a layman, basically in the Orthodox Church, 118 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:43.120 and then trying to go wait, but keep searching, keep searching, 119 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:47.200 because you're sort of in the mall version of Christianity, 120 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:51.159 and I hope that you keep looking and not just 121 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:55.360 stop here and go Man. Did Charlie Kirk and what 122 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:59.279 I saw on the film of him I'm being assassinated? 123 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:02.120 This really fluence me. And I'm going to my new 124 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:07.399 megachurch and we are chanting and doing worship music and 125 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:10.279 something about it hurts for me to see some of 126 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:13.840 these things. And so my point with the hot top 127 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.799 at Christianity is a bit of a struggle between like 128 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:20.600 I don't want to be judgmental and the prick online 129 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:24.080 it's like, uh, that's not right, like the all monitor. 130 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:29.879 But I hope that I know they won't all because 131 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:31.960 that's just not how things work. But I hope that 132 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:35.480 a decent segment of the people searching that are motivated 133 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:38.320 by what happened to Charlie Kirk and are finding Christ 134 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:43.559 and and and sort of searching for truth can at 135 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:45.799 least start looking towards this direction. 136 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:51.159 Jim, any comments on that is worrying for j to 137 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:51.519 get back. 138 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:57.679 No, not really. I just want to pick up a 139 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:00.960 little bit on the whole Charlie Kirk thing, because you know, 140 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:03.960 obviously that had a big impact on a lot of people, 141 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:07.039 and a lot of people on the right somehow sort 142 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:08.919 of said, oh, well, now you know, you know this 143 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:11.480 is our new you know, this is our bloody shirt, 144 00:10:12.159 --> 00:10:13.440 and you know, I think we can talk a little 145 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:15.440 bit later about where we're going with that. I'd I'd 146 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:17.559 rather get back to what Jay has to say first 147 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:20.320 and then talk about what my initial thoughts were before 148 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.240 we get into the back and forth as possible. 149 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:25.559 But I mean, Jim, because I mean, you're the elder here, 150 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.879 the Elder Jim jodtris you've seen you've you've been in 151 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:31.879 the church for the longest on this panel, you've probably 152 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:34.759 seen a little bit of the remissions and then the 153 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:41.799 these surges. Right from your perspective, is this Oftentimes we 154 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:43.320 hear this sort of corollary. This is sort of like 155 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:47.080 almost the new Great Awakening, you know, Great Awaking two 156 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:49.960 point zero. We've seen sort of revivals in the seventies 157 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:54.320 and eighties. Of course that was furloughed, you know, scandals 158 00:10:54.320 --> 00:11:00.159 in the church, especially the Protestant denominations in the United States. Yes, 159 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:03.679 this is sort of like the we'll have to see. 160 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:07.399 But I think initial fears or in trepidation is that 161 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:09.200 this is being a suit of almost being set up 162 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:12.360 that for another version of that where we have a 163 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:15.200 massive influx and it almost seems to be set up 164 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:17.000 to fail in some ways. 165 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:21.360 Yeah, I don't know if I would look at it 166 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:23.000 that way. I don't think we've ever seen an influx 167 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:24.919 like this. I mean, all right, let me go ahead 168 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:28.000 and make a drop a couple thoughts I had in mind. 169 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:32.759 You know, I sometimes think that Cleo, the Muse of History, 170 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:35.600 must have accidentally hit the fast forward button, because it 171 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:37.840 seems a lot of things that are going on sort 172 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:40.720 of in the framework of what Jay talks about, the 173 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:45.440 nexus between geopolitics and religion, whereas again very few people 174 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:49.120 are aware that religion doesn't exist in this kind of 175 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:53.600 ethereal sphere all by itself, nothing to do with politics, 176 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:58.320 and that every political agenda of any sort has got 177 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:00.600 its thumb in it somewhere or other, for better or 178 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:03.000 for worse. And you know, and look, just look at 179 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:05.879 what things have been happening just in the last few weeks. 180 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:09.519 You've got this this ridiculous person being named the archbishop 181 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:13.440 of Archbishop Best of Canterbury, and then the Nigerian Church, 182 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:15.399 which by the way is bigger than the English Church 183 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:20.000 and breaking breaking with it. You've got now when the 184 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:25.039 Roman Catholic Church, even even the most ridiculous pig headed 185 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:30.279 trad cats, are admitting that Leo is another Francis, And 186 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:32.480 you know it's plain as the nose on my face. 187 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:35.000 You know, you've got the gay parade coming into Saint Peter. 188 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:37.919 You've got all of his horrible appointments, he's blessing the 189 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:41.000 ice block and you know, and doing all that kind 190 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:44.120 of stuff. You've got the statement now by the Italian 191 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:46.960 bishops about you know, welping. Well, I mean, it's it's 192 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:49.799 just not even funny anymore. And what they're all duced 193 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:54.759 to now is well, my divorce, my contraception. I mean, 194 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:57.279 that's all they've got left to try to hide in 195 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:01.919 to avoid the obvious wreck. And I don't know, you know, 196 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:04.399 back to what you were asking about the question, Yeah, 197 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:06.279 I think we're seeing a lot more Roman Catholics now, 198 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:09.799 even more now than we were seeing under Francis, because 199 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:11.840 I think a lot of them have given up hope that, 200 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:14.200 you know, the next pope is going to come along 201 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:17.519 and fix stuff. You know, now we're not free from 202 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:20.159 this either. Later next month, I suppose, near the end 203 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:22.600 of the month, Leo and Bartholome, you we are supposed 204 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:25.440 to get to get their nicea to move along on 205 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:27.200 their next step of having a common dating of the 206 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:30.159 Eastern Pasca, and the next step of concocting some new 207 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:36.159 version of Florence, some some new new union. And what 208 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:37.639 we seeing in all of this, and not only the 209 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:40.000 influx we're having into our church, but how many videos 210 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:42.840 do you see out there now? Every every Roman Catholic 211 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:45.279 and Protestant out there saying, oh that that Ortho thing 212 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:47.960 over there, that's not for you, that's not Western. Paying 213 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:49.960 no attention to that man behind the curt you know. 214 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:52.879 It just it's gotten gotten absurd now. And I love 215 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:55.039 these things cause you look at the comments. You see 216 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:56.399 all these people saying, well, I don't know what this 217 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:59.320 Ortho thing is, better go check it out, you know. 218 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:01.440 So I think I think we're living in a moment 219 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:05.200 in that regard. Meanwhile, on the geopolitical front, Okay, you know, 220 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:07.720 war with Iran is coming again. That's not gone. And 221 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:11.759 you know his twelve twelve day, big beautiful war did 222 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:14.639 not solve that. And that's happening at a time when 223 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:19.240 more and more Americans, except for most diehard Christian you know, 224 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:24.080 idiotized Christian Zionists, are finally seeing that, yeah, we do 225 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:25.720 not have the same God, We do not have the 226 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:29.600 same faith as as Judaism, as Islam and anybody else. 227 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:31.559 So you see that, you know, we're gonna have war 228 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:36.440 with it with with the Venezuela. The American Empire is 229 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:40.960 visibly faded, failing at the same time that we're we're 230 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:44.960 moving toward an internal crisis. Both spiritually and not too 231 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:48.399 and not too distant future, financially, economically, and and uh 232 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:52.120 and uh and politically. It's it's all happening at the 233 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:54.799 same time, and it's all connected and and so I 234 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:59.000 think this, this moment when people are seeking refuge for 235 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:02.600 something true that they could hold on to, is in 236 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:05.639 a way the precipitate of all these events that are 237 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:07.639 tied together, all happening at the same time. 238 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:16.679 Jay, I'm trying to find I was trying to find 239 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:17.600 an unmute button. 240 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:20.960 Yeah, I mean I was. I was glad to I 241 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:23.879 beat buck to it. Sorry that Sorry, go ahead. 242 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:26.360 I was trying to beat you guys to you so 243 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:27.600 you wouldn't say I'm mute. Dude. 244 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:29.919 Yeah, I think it. 245 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:30.480 You know. 246 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.200 I was appreciative to be able to be on one 247 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:36.039 of the last so far as what we think is 248 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:40.360 the one of the last info Wars broadcasts to really 249 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:44.240 encourage people to look at Orthodoxy as a solution. So 250 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:48.120 and I tried to encourage Alex to to make the 251 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:50.720 move to go check out an Orthodox church, and he said, 252 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:54.360 I gotta stand up Rino. So I don't know if 253 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:57.960 I don't know if you will, but you don't actually 254 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.399 have to stand up for eight hours, but I said 255 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:05.440 more like four, Alex, not eight. But yeah, I'm I'm 256 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:07.600 glad to see the surge. 257 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:07.960 You know. 258 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:14.159 I remember again, I'm not anywhere near Jim's cradle situation. 259 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:18.159 But you know, in twenty sixteen seventeen, we had the 260 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:21.639 first wave of guys that began to convert, and a 261 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:23.600 lot of that was the Discord that we set up. 262 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:27.279 And the Discord has produced quite a few fruits, I 263 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:30.240 think more than people would think that early generation of guys. 264 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.720 Most of those guys are already married, having kids, some 265 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:36.799 of them are becoming deacons and priests, and some of 266 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:39.480 them have already graduated from seminary Jordanville and so forth. 267 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:43.080 So there's been, as you said, waves of this. I 268 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:45.159 never expected this was going to happen to you know, 269 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.440 I'm honored and thankful to the Lord to be a 270 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:51.799 part of that. And I think we will see more 271 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:54.559 and more waves of this. And as you pointed out, 272 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:58.039 really Protestantism in Rome don't have a lot to offer, 273 00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:02.519 and even there open voices are kind of becoming more 274 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:05.480 and more drown out because they just keep spinning their 275 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:08.079 wheels because every time they try to do something. There's 276 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:10.720 a massive issue, you know, with the papacy or with 277 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.680 you know, lesbian bishops or whatever, so it's becoming more 278 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:18.839 and more difficult people defend those those systems, and of 279 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:20.799 course we have our problems as well, but I think 280 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:25.359 when people understand the decentralized nature of Orthodoxy, it's a 281 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:31.240 little more amenable to what they're looking for. And I 282 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:36.640 think also it's time to resuscitate the discord because you know, 283 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:38.480 it got up to about twelve thousand people in there 284 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:41.440 now and I took time off from it, but I 285 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:45.680 think young guys really need this, and it's time to 286 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:48.519 really focus on helping young guys look in this direction. 287 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:50.559 I've kind of shied away from that because I didn't 288 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:53.599 really feel like I was that kind of a person 289 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:56.359 to be a dude to point young guys in the 290 00:17:56.519 --> 00:17:59.240 in the right direction or whatever. But that it's already happened, 291 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:01.759 so it's too late, So time to do it. Time 292 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:05.279 to continue to work pushing young guys. You know, there 293 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:07.480 is another issue too, which Jamie and I have talked 294 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.359 a lot about and my priests as well. We learn 295 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:12.960 know how to reach the young girls. We'll figure that 296 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:15.000 out in one way I think you know that came 297 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:18.920 up with Ludwell. Eventually, as the guys convert, the girls will, 298 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:21.440 but there still needs to be some means of trying 299 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:23.079 to reach those people. But you know, we've got a 300 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:25.559 big conference coming up. It's not as big as lud Well, 301 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:28.240 but it's We've already sold more tickets than we've sold 302 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:31.519 in any event ever. And I think we're going to 303 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:35.880 keep having more and more blowout Orthodox conferences that are 304 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:39.599 just going to be excellent hubs that solve some of 305 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:42.200 the problems. For example, one of the number one problems 306 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:44.000 that comes up is guys and girls. Where do I 307 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:45.880 meet a girl? Where do I meet a guy? Well, 308 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:47.839 come to an Orthodox conference. It's one of one of 309 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:50.680 your best bets because if you don't see an Orthodox 310 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:56.000 spouse potential at a local parish, you might have to 311 00:18:56.640 --> 00:18:59.400 go to a conference. So I apologize we've been driving 312 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:01.680 a lot monds a little bit mush, but I'm rambly, 313 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:05.759 but I think, yeah, this is you know, it's all 314 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:09.759 divine providence. The timing is amazing for what's happening, and 315 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:12.000 I think it's just going to keep exploding. I'm very 316 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:15.640 excited and as we've been saying the joke I made 317 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:17.039 a long time ago. I think I made this joke 318 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:19.680 in twenty seventeen. The papacy is the best of the 319 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:22.759 Orthodox apologists, so they're just going to keep sending. 320 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:23.000 Them our way. 321 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:31.519 I'm going to that conference, Jake, if you do, you 322 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:33.799 want to talk about what it is, because everyone's going 323 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:34.799 to go, wait, what's you talking about? 324 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:34.920 Oh? 325 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:41.440 Sorry, yeah. If you go to my Twitter or my website, 326 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:45.039 there's some links there. It's the Athens in Jerusalem Conference 327 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:48.599 and it's going to be a focus on Orthodox philosophy 328 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.599 of life. So it's not philosophy in some boring technical sense, 329 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:56.839 it's the philosophy of life. Metropolitan Jonah will speak, Father Vladimir, 330 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:00.720 my priest will speak. He's very well tuned to the 331 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:05.160 history of esthetics. He's taught art at the Florence School 332 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:09.319 of Art before, so he's he's great. And he goes 333 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:14.480 into imagine if Dan Brown wasn't faking gay and it 334 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:17.359 was actually cool, That's what my priest does. He goes 335 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:22.119 into like really good symbolic deconstructions of artwork. Uh, and 336 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:25.880 he's not faking gay, He's actually real and straight. So 337 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:32.519 the decoding is taught Notch and uh yeah, he's going 338 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:36.079 to talk about that. I'll be talking about a derivation 339 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:38.279 of what I talked about at Ludbell of something a 340 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:40.720 little more precise and specific. I think my talk will 341 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:43.599 be longer than the Ludwell talk. We got Father Deacon 342 00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:46.960 doctor Annonayas will be talking about Orthodox philosophy and epistemology. 343 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:49.839 We've got my wife will be talking about the history 344 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:53.359 of ancient Paganism making a return with the trans movement 345 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:57.039 and whatnot. Doctor David Patrick Harry will be there. He 346 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:00.359 will be speaking on his book Orthodoxy and transhuman So 347 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:03.440 all of those areas will I think overlap very well. 348 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:05.279 I'm not sure what Metropalton Jones is going to speak on, 349 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:08.519 but it'll be relevant. And that is a two day 350 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:11.720 conference November twentieth and twenty first, and we're kind of 351 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:15.559 almost at peak capacity, so there's probably not a few 352 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:18.119 not that many more spots left, So if you do 353 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:19.160 want to come, you better hurry. 354 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.440 I'll just take a break to eventually get a chat 355 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:27.319 what Georgia to. 356 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:29.880 Talk to me online after the conference. 357 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:32.480 I don't know what their plan is. I do think 358 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:34.480 for the Vladimir is recording it he has a guy 359 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:37.559 who's pretty good, the geographer, but I'm not sure what 360 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:41.440 their plan is. Possibly possibly. 361 00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:46.359 Just briefly just for the chat. Of course, it's okay 362 00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:48.799 send us to your comments and questions or anything else 363 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:51.599 you want to be to read out. I will do 364 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:53.400 so as a super chat or send it over on 365 00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:55.279 a stream. Lab is usually the best way of doing it, 366 00:21:55.400 --> 00:22:01.079 so it avoids the YouTube haircut. The the other thing 367 00:22:01.079 --> 00:22:03.319 I would like to talk about, gentlemen, since we're talking 368 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:09.359 about Christianity, sorry, the Roman Catholics, UH and Orthodoxy, the 369 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:15.799 coming together, possibly at least in conversations. What do you 370 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:21.680 guys think about the about jd Vance visiting visiting the UH, 371 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:28.480 meeting with his beatitude Patriarch, Theoptopius the third in Jerusalem. 372 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:34.000 I'll share this second year. 373 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:44.640 Jason. I don't know if this is up to you, 374 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:47.920 but you're really loud, and Jim is really really low 375 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:50.079 for me, but I don't know if that's on the 376 00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:51.720 stream as well or just on here. 377 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:54.240 Oh cluck louder. 378 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:56.160 Scream at me. 379 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.960 The proximity of to the mic, it was quite quite. 380 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:03.960 Closer. 381 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:07.160 How's that get closer? There we go, Jim H. So 382 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:13.400 this is from the Orthodox. It sounds a bit better. Yeah, uh, 383 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:18.960 this is from the Orthodox Christianity. Post Patriarch Jerusalem receives 384 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:24.319 JD vance VP vans At at Holy Sepulature. This is 385 00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:28.200 of course, when JD was visiting Israel, which finds I 386 00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:30.400 find it interesting he kind of, as far as I know, 387 00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:34.759 did not go to the Wall, did not get the 388 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:38.319 photog photograph of the wall. Instead went to the Holy 389 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:44.279 uh Sepulture to meet with the Orthodox, with the Orthodox 390 00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:44.839 priests there. 391 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:45.599 Uh. 392 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.079 This is not the first time this has been happening. 393 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:51.119 Of course, we have Bartholomew meeting with sim of this, 394 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:55.799 Bartholomew meeting with Trump at the White House a few 395 00:23:55.839 --> 00:24:00.559 months ago. So of course we brought up the the 396 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:05.559 possibility of e communism. This is where Jim corrects me 397 00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:08.559 on how I pronounce things, So please, Jim, don't hold back. 398 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:14.599 We have that sort of possible possibility of the meeting 399 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:17.759 of the minds, let's say. And of course there's been 400 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.960 some sort of talk about possible schisms with ROCORP, the 401 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:27.960