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<v Speaker 1>This is doctor Wendy Walsh and you're listening to kf

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<v Speaker 1>I Am six forty, the Doctor Wendy Waalsh Show on

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<v Speaker 1>demand on the iHeartRadio app k I AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>You have doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Wendy Waalsh Show. I am taking your calls. If

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Wendy Walsh. I'll keep your identity anonymous. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we have a talkback somebody recorded We're old you

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<v Speaker 1>got that? Go ahead. Hi, my name is Sarah. I

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<v Speaker 1>lost the phone number because I'm driving anyway. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to know a couple questions. So you're talking about relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>How about for the people that are a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>older sixty plus? What would you suggest? Okay, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you do forget the phone number, you know you can

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<v Speaker 1>always go on the iHeartRadio app like Sarah did, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a talk back button and you can just record

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<v Speaker 1>you a question. So Sarah, it doesn't matter. All the

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<v Speaker 1>rules of engagement are the same, and the good news

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<v Speaker 1>is The fastest growing group of people on dating apps

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<v Speaker 1>are people over the age of fifty. And the wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>thing about dating apps is that you put your age.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't lie. People don't like them when people lie about

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<v Speaker 1>their age, and they will search for you. Only a

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<v Speaker 1>small minority of men actually always want to go young.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of people just want a best friend. My husband

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<v Speaker 1>is a little older than me. We met in our

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<v Speaker 1>fifties and he was searching for a peer a friend. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to put the sexy pictures on the

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<v Speaker 1>app if you're over sixty, put attractive pictures, some full

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<v Speaker 1>length of you doing the things you do in your

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<v Speaker 1>life to show them who you are. But the other

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<v Speaker 1>important thing is older people especially think like the first

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<v Speaker 1>get together. The first meeting should be an exciting, romantic

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<v Speaker 1>date with a total stranger off an app. No, have

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<v Speaker 1>a phone call first, and then if you like what

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<v Speaker 1>you hear on the phone, then get together for a

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<v Speaker 1>short coffee date and then after that have the first date.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't rush into big, high expectations. That is not the

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do, all right, And while I was on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody posted a question I thought very interesting. He said

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<v Speaker 1>that he is from a wealthy family. He's engaged to

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<v Speaker 1>a woman who comes from a low income family, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's wondering what problems they're going to have. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious problem that people think of right away is, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my god, she's marrying him for his money. I hope. So.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, all women are gold diggers in some way.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to protect your wealth and your money,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you have a pre nap. But keep in

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<v Speaker 1>mind that if a woman's going to take decades off

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<v Speaker 1>her life to our career to have children, she deserves

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<v Speaker 1>to be compensated for that. I remember talking to a

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<v Speaker 1>family attorney one time, and he said, the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>people should do is that anytime any partner of any

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<v Speaker 1>gender stays home, they should be paid a salary every week,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're paid for their time. Wouldn't that be great

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<v Speaker 1>if it worked out that way. The bigger the other

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<v Speaker 1>difference that can happen is just a difference in values,

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<v Speaker 1>right you know, we all have a kind of financial psychology,

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<v Speaker 1>psychology of money, and some people are very frugal and

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<v Speaker 1>they might be upset if you're spending a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's the wealthy side that's the most frugal. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we won't spend that, and that's why you're wealthy because

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<v Speaker 1>you saved really well. Other people believe like I deserve it,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me have it, right. So it's about figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out what someone's value is. And then there's other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to put money on this one because you

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<v Speaker 1>can be really wealthy and have no taste. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean no decorative taste, no taste when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to certain things. And then there are people who may

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<v Speaker 1>have low income but high education. If I read somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>actually that that is the target market of Trader Joe's.

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<v Speaker 1>That when they first launched, they deliberately put themselves like

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<v Speaker 1>near universities and simies, and they wanted to get people

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<v Speaker 1>who played violin in a symphony or taught at a

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<v Speaker 1>small college and we're really smart and world traveled and

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<v Speaker 1>had taste, but not a lot of income. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, So it's about talking about all these things

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<v Speaker 1>before they come up in a big way. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>having different values, right, all right, let me move on

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<v Speaker 1>to my DMS. Here here we go, Hey, doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was dating a guy and we got into a

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<v Speaker 1>fight where I showed my ugly side a little too early.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're ever supposed to show your ugly set.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you mean you got a little too authentic

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<v Speaker 1>with your anger. He seems to have demoted me to

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<v Speaker 1>a booty call. I don't show up to the late

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<v Speaker 1>night calls, but I want to get back to our

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<v Speaker 1>romantic dates. Is there a way to do this? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever there's conflict in a relationship, talking about commenting on

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<v Speaker 1>it is the most important thing. There's not some manipul

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<v Speaker 1>relative strategy. It's you calling him and saying and getting

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<v Speaker 1>him on the phone, not text on the phone and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really sorry that I got angry in that way

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<v Speaker 1>and showed you a side of myself that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really proud of. We're not close enough for me to

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<v Speaker 1>ever have been that intimate with you. On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like since that you've been, you know, more

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying the fruits of my body without getting really close

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<v Speaker 1>to me emotionally. So what should we do about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Leave it open ended, like how should we handle this?

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<v Speaker 1>And see what he says. I love the word the

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<v Speaker 1>question how, especially for male brains, because it puts them

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<v Speaker 1>out of their emotional brain and into their prefrontal cortex

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<v Speaker 1>to problem solve. So how should we solve this is

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<v Speaker 1>always a good question because you're in it together and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you learn something, right, I know, we all have

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<v Speaker 1>tender spots, and we have to be able to control

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves just at the beginning, until there's enough to tack,

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<v Speaker 1>until there's enough security and attachment and there's enough intimacy. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry that happened to you, Dear doctor Wendy. Should

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<v Speaker 1>I ask about my future partner's past relationships? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell you something that that is the number

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<v Speaker 1>one conversation that most dating couples talk about, right, the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship they just got out of, what their longest relationship was. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a way to have this conversation without totally blaming

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<v Speaker 1>your ex for everything. To show that one has emotional intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>They would talk about their peace in it as well, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we weren't compatible because I was more like

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<v Speaker 1>this and she was more like that. That's a healthy

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<v Speaker 1>way to describe it, right. But yeah, you have absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>every right because by the time they got to you,

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<v Speaker 1>they had been trained by a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>impacted their idea of love starting with their parents in

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the books I wrote is called The Boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>asked how to evaluate his potential before you lose your heart,

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the questions was, what's the length of

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<v Speaker 1>his longest relationship? You know? And if somebody's got to

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<v Speaker 1>like the age of thirty and they haven't had a

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<v Speaker 1>one year relationship, you got a question, do they have

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to stick it out? Right? So these are

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<v Speaker 1>important questions that you should ask in a relationship. Dear

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Wendy, I met a man at rals who told

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<v Speaker 1>me I was stunning. Well, that's nice. We've been having

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<v Speaker 1>great text conversations. I hate that. But he won't initiate

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<v Speaker 1>an in person date, should I? Or does this mean

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<v Speaker 1>he's not really interested in me? No? Okay, So here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. In heterosexual relationships. Women should not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sperm chases egg and not the reverse. Women should not

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<v Speaker 1>be chasing men. But women should issue an invitation. And

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<v Speaker 1>you've done that by responding to his texts and being available.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure you've said polite, flirty things on those texts. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>He's had the invitation. He hasn't made the move. It

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<v Speaker 1>is not your job to chase him down. Now, not

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<v Speaker 1>your job. Let this one go. Dear doctor Wendy, my

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend of one year sent me a positive pregnancy test

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<v Speaker 1>that she got off Google. How do you know she

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<v Speaker 1>got off Google? Oh? I know she got it off Google.

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<v Speaker 1>I should keep reading and then I'll know the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I know she got off Google because I

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<v Speaker 1>reverse google searched it. The tangled webs we weave and technology.

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<v Speaker 1>It is odd. Is this a deal breaker for a relationship?

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<v Speaker 1>Or should I ask more about it? I'm turned off

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<v Speaker 1>by her. Look, everybody has their own threshold for what

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<v Speaker 1>is a deal breaker. But this kind of lies about

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<v Speaker 1>life and death, kind of lies. No, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>deal breaker. Okay, this is a deal breaker. This is awful.

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<v Speaker 1>She's trying to coerce you into marriage or spending money

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<v Speaker 1>using complete false pretenses. She's betraying your trust. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it can be fixed from here. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>that's terrible, Dear doctor Wendy. I was on a first

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<v Speaker 1>date with a woman and she joked about my features

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<v Speaker 1>and my dad bought Oh guys, I'm so sorry. I

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<v Speaker 1>liked her, but this is distasteful. Should I give her

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<v Speaker 1>another chance? I mean, you could have a conversation and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I just tell her your feelings. I didn't like what

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<v Speaker 1>you said, call me the I had a dad bought.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're into me, yeah great, But if not, like chick,

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<v Speaker 1>move on. I'm so sorry that happened to you. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you move on. I think there are

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<v Speaker 1>other women out there who will be better for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And while I'm giving guys advice when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a trend on social media where men are finally

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<v Speaker 1>decorating their bedrooms very lovely. If you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>some great examples, just google around and you'll see. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the common things that we find in men's

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<v Speaker 1>bedroom and how they could do a little better. You're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the Dr Wendy Walls Show on KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty we Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio App.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 3>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, Live Everywhere at the iHeartRadio app. On

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<v Speaker 1>the iHeartRadio App, I'm here I'm at the iHeartRadio studio now,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can listen to me on the iHeartRadio up there.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it out. So there's this trend online about

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<v Speaker 1>men learning to actually decorate their apartments better, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a single guy, you might want to start seeing

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. Honestly, it's like, for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in history, men are suddenly caring about their environment. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>because they're inviting ladies over, maybe because they want to

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<v Speaker 1>be comfortable themselves. Maybe they're actually buying some decorator magazines.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're not one of those men, which are

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<v Speaker 1>the minority, I will say that there are some things

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<v Speaker 1>about men's bedrooms that are very different from women's bedrooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I get into it, I do want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>a story. Years ago, I was on a TV set

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, in between the shots and the takes,

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<v Speaker 1>just chatting and I overheard one guy say to another, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited about tonight I got a date with

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<v Speaker 1>this girl. And you know, my ear perks up because

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<v Speaker 1>Girl rooms are great to sleep in. And I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>the day when I got to trapes through a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of men's bedrooms saying I've had some life experience. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>One time I bought a piece of art from an

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<v Speaker 1>He was in San Francisco, this beautiful piece of art,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, well, where are you going to display

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<v Speaker 1>my art? And he was hoping I was going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>in a museum, a lobby of my office, at least

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<v Speaker 1>my living room, And I said, just my bedroom and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, oh, And I said, don't worry, dude, I

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<v Speaker 1>will be seen anyway. His name is Eric Zeener. I

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<v Speaker 1>fifty sixty thousand dollars. Now, I did not pay that.

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<v Speaker 1>picture of the painting he'd made for me thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, you know, at one point it ended

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<v Speaker 1>piece of plastic toast, you know, like them from their

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<v Speaker 1>plastic kitchen, sir, and it sliced the canvas a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was so sweet on Instagram. He said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get He gave me the name of

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<v Speaker 1>someone who restores paintings, and he goesaid, I'll do the

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<v Speaker 1>touch up painting on it, because I remember that painting

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<v Speaker 1>so much. I didn't ask him if you remembered my

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<v Speaker 1>line about all the traffic in my bedroom. Didn't ask

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<v Speaker 1>him that anyway. The biggest thing I noticed way back

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<v Speaker 1>when when I traped through men's bedroom was a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of complete decorative esthetic at all. When they do decorate,

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<v Speaker 1>it fears that men like sports memorabilia, the middle aged

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<v Speaker 1>playboys like old modeling books, the old modland picture. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know posters and models look for most men, though,

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<v Speaker 1>the bedroom is a utilian, utilitarian place, right, So in

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<v Speaker 1>a women's bedroom, you are going to find comfort, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to find high quality sheets in cotton, not chemicals.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually sleeping in an airbnb recently and the

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<v Speaker 1>night in the bed, I was like, is my apple

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<v Speaker 1>watch on? Why am I seeing this light? And I

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<v Speaker 1>opened my eyes. It was sparks from the s sheets.

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<v Speaker 1>They were so full of chemicals that the static electricity

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<v Speaker 1>when I would turn over at night, the sheets would

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<v Speaker 1>light up were sparked. Guys, don't buy those cheap sheets, please,

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<v Speaker 1>cotton linen one hundred okay. And the guys often have

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<v Speaker 1>sheets that are brown and navy blue. No, no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>poopy color. You don't want that in the bed. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what women hate, dudes. We hate completely mismass furniture.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, sometimes your bedroom's got like one of your

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<v Speaker 1>grandmother's antiques because it was a hand me down, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>something from your boyhood bedroom, something on sale from Target

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<v Speaker 1>but not part of the Target. Actually is a great

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<v Speaker 1>place lately to decorate, but it doesn't match what you

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<v Speaker 1>have going on. It wasn't thoughtfully executed. Okay. So women

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<v Speaker 1>tend to be much more intentional about their rooms, and

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<v Speaker 1>they tend to care about comfort. So, dudes, I have

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit of advice for you if you

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<v Speaker 1>are thinking of making a man cave that might attract

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<v Speaker 1>a woman. Number one, I've already mentioned it only by

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<v Speaker 1>natural fibers. Lady skins cannot handle those chemical sheets, just sing.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two, add more pillows to your bed. Seeing two lonely,

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<v Speaker 1>forlorn flat pillows is not an invitation to dive into

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<v Speaker 1>your bed. I'm going to say this about your smelly

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<v Speaker 1>laundry basket. Get it out of the bedroom. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it in the closet, put it in the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>and please make sure it has a lid on it.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a much more highly attuned old factory response,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can smell things that you can't. And in general, gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>please buy lighter colors. Heavy dark wood might be masculine,

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<v Speaker 1>but it feels like a cave to us. Recently, I

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<v Speaker 1>was touring an apartment in New York with a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine who was moving in with her longtime boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>And as she toured me. Everything she kept saying is

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's brown. This brown thing's going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this brown piece of furniture is going to go. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is too dark. We're going to fix that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she knew that women like things light and bright

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<v Speaker 1>as much as possible. So guys catch with the trend.

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<v Speaker 1>Look on social media. Lots of guys are doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're learning how to make masculine yet fashionable and decorative rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is actually attracting women. All right, speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>what else not to do when we come back, But

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back, I have a wonderful author who

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<v Speaker 1>has written a light Okay, it's light, it's humorous. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not putting you down. Guys. A book called Things I

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<v Speaker 1>Heard While Dating You would not believe some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things women wrote to her that they had heard men

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<v Speaker 1>say on dates. When we come back. You were listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 1>forty were live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 3>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Doctor Wendy Why Show on KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. My

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<v Speaker 1>next guest blew me away with an email. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an email because it was so well constructed that I

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<v Speaker 1>knew she would be an excellent Guessie, I'm putting her

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<v Speaker 1>on the spot before she even knows. My next Guest

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<v Speaker 1>is an author based in Raleigh, North Carolina. She is

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<v Speaker 1>a writer and editor of the book called The Things

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<v Speaker 1>I Heard While Dating. It is a book that looks

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<v Speaker 1>into the quirky, qwinge worthy, and often hilarious. We have

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<v Speaker 1>to have a sense of humor about this, folks, otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>it would be pure tragedy hilarious world of romantic dialogues. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Emily O'Brien, how are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good, how are you doing good?

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<v Speaker 1>So, first question, what prompted you to write this book?

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<v Speaker 1>Because your background is actually in journalism having to do

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<v Speaker 1>with all kinds of things from architecture to cooking and

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<v Speaker 1>now dating.

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<v Speaker 2>Right while that's an interesting story, I am actually out

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<v Speaker 2>of the dating realm right now. I'm twenty years into marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>But I remembered something strange and really out of the

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<v Speaker 2>blue one day that a date had said to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just could not stop laughing, like not just

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<v Speaker 2>at the line, but also it was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a time capsule into who I was at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>And the line was, oh, so you just have more

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<v Speaker 2>hair on one side of your head, and I said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just how I parton it, and I don't mind you.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a very sing I literally thought that you

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<v Speaker 1>had thin hair on one side and thick on another.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't consider that a side part means you're pulling

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<v Speaker 1>some over to the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, yes, wow, wow. So I remembered that line and

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<v Speaker 2>it was just kind of an awkward moment that happened

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<v Speaker 2>in the date, and I just brushed it off because

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, I don't know if he is just in

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<v Speaker 2>awe of my hair for some reason and it was

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<v Speaker 2>nothing remarkable at all, or maybe trying to land a

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<v Speaker 2>bad joke. I mean, that would be the maybe best

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<v Speaker 2>case scenario. And then later I remembered something else a

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<v Speaker 2>different date had said to me, and I started asking

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<v Speaker 2>my girlfriends, do you have stories? Did anything weird happen

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<v Speaker 2>to you? And I did not expect to unlock such

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<v Speaker 2>a treasure trove of funny, cringe worthy and just puzzling

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<v Speaker 2>lines in general.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, before we get into it. I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>say that we love men, and men you are trying okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of you are bumbling around in the dating world.

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<v Speaker 1>And anyway, I will say that research has shown that

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best ways that a man can showcase

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<v Speaker 1>his most important trait, which is intelligence, is through humor,

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<v Speaker 1>and because of that, some men who aren't naturally funny,

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<v Speaker 1>will attempt it as a way to, you know, showcase

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<v Speaker 1>the humor. So this is lighthearted. We still love you men,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's get into it. Let's talk about some questionable

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<v Speaker 1>pickup lines before we get to the date. Anything you

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<v Speaker 1>heard that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, I did you know questionable pickup lives. One

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<v Speaker 2>that was actually damped on a dating app was do

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<v Speaker 2>you have stinky feet? And the woman wrote back no,

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<v Speaker 2>and he genuinely was upset that she did not have

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<v Speaker 2>stinky feet. So I suppose that was definitely a flop.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a fetish. I think that was a fetish

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<v Speaker 1>because one time, when I was young, a guy asked

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<v Speaker 1>me to specifically wear strappy shoes to the date, which, gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening, not a good idea to tell women

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<v Speaker 1>what to wear before you've even met them. On a date,

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<v Speaker 1>but an he wanted strappy shoes. I got what he

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<v Speaker 1>where he was coming from. So I said, listen, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're like got some foot fetish thing, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>bunions and pump bumps, and you're not going to be happy,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. And it was in the days where we

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<v Speaker 1>wore high heels every single day. Did you know, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Emily, when you start wearing sneakers and stop

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<v Speaker 1>wearing those high heels, all that goes away and your

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<v Speaker 1>feet get pretty again, just saying so anyway, he came up,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, oh no, no, I don't It's fine, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just wear whatever you want on the date. So I

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<v Speaker 1>remember wearing clothes toed pumps. But while we were at

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<v Speaker 1>the restaurant, a woman in a slinky dress walked by

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<v Speaker 1>with strappy shoes, and he couldn't help himself turned to

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<v Speaker 1>me and said, oh my god, did you see your feet?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't they look great? As if I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>share in this joy with him? So yeah, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see him after that. I didn't see Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, hey if he has a food fetish, But

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't, you know, the first date just seemed

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<v Speaker 1>early to go there, all right? Any other pickup lines

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<v Speaker 1>you heard from women? I did.

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<v Speaker 2>One woman submitted a line that said he said to

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<v Speaker 2>her pack your bags, let's go to Bali. And this

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<v Speaker 2>was on their first date after he showed up at

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong place and then confessed he had a drug

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<v Speaker 2>problem and was a practicing physician.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's a guy. You want to run off

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<v Speaker 1>to a foreign country with alone without any protection.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>One guy? Here's a pickup line I got from a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually a text from someone who I had

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<v Speaker 1>known previously in another incarnation of life. He was married,

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<v Speaker 1>I was married. Whatever. Instead of writing a text that said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're single now and I'm single now and oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always dreamed to go out with you and it

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<v Speaker 1>would be so wonderful, he literally wrote, so my divorce

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<v Speaker 1>is fine, and I think you're kind of a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit interesting. Do you want to go out a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit interesting path? On that one too? Pass on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think is the best thing a guy

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<v Speaker 1>could say if they meet someone in the real world

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<v Speaker 1>and they want to do some kind of pickup line.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your advice from what you've heard ooh.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I think just a regular conversation, like not try

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<v Speaker 2>to come up with something bizarre outlandish, and just talk

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<v Speaker 2>to someone. I know that sounds kind of old fashioned,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that's probably the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I heard that flirting is back in

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<v Speaker 1>with jen Why they're trying to talk in public now.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not liking the dating apps, so I've been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to teach flirting techniques. My advice is, just find any

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<v Speaker 1>common interest, even if it's the weather, like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>raining so hard. You know you are smart enough to

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<v Speaker 1>wear riinkcoat whatever, like anything that you share in common

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment. If you're both gay, the same airplane

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<v Speaker 1>going by, I don't know, but just you have to

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<v Speaker 1>establish rapport by having something in common from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got to search for it. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the best line. So when we come back, let us

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<v Speaker 1>get into the dates. The book is called Things I

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<v Speaker 1>Heard While Dating. The author is Emily O'Brien, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>got lots of fun stuff for us. When we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Doctor Andy Walsh Show on

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio App.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 3>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show and KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio App. We

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<v Speaker 1>are in the home stretch of the Doctor Wendy Walls Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I am here every Sunday for you from seven to

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<v Speaker 1>nine pm. If you miss any part of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you can always go to that iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always there. If you miss past shows, they're there.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to end the show with Emily O'Brien's book

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<v Speaker 1>Things I've Heard While Dating because I just thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was so adorable that we make light and this particular

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<v Speaker 1>show has been a lot of information for single people.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're still single and you're still listening, here's

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<v Speaker 1>some things you probably shouldn't say. Okay, Emily, what are

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<v Speaker 1>some of the wildest things that women have told you

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<v Speaker 1>that men have said on dates? By the way, did

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<v Speaker 1>you interview men to find out weird things women say

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<v Speaker 1>on dates?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's interesting all of the men that submitted

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<v Speaker 2>lines it was from what other men had said they

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<v Speaker 2>were in gay relationships. I didn't have I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>any men submitting lines from women.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because we don't have to talk. We just have

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<v Speaker 1>to smile and look pretty, all right, So what have

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<v Speaker 1>you got in the book? Things I heard while dating?

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<v Speaker 2>Well Abby and Lenexa, Kansas heard on her second date,

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<v Speaker 2>I find you being a vegetarian so sexy. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to eat at a mammy off your back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, so she is that technically vegetarian if he's

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<v Speaker 1>eating off her body, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>She heard it during their first makeout session, which caused

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<v Speaker 2>her to let out that uncomfortable giggle that most women

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<v Speaker 2>do and they don't know how to react, and she

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<v Speaker 2>said he seemed perfect in every other way, but she

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<v Speaker 2>just could not get past that line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds like it starts with that a mommy,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets a hannibal lecter. I mean it just moves

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<v Speaker 1>on to something dangerous. I don't know, all right, anything

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<v Speaker 1>else for us?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? LS in Riverhead, New York. She heard this line

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<v Speaker 2>on her first in person date after two video calls,

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<v Speaker 2>so she had kind of vetted him at first, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said after she was returning from the bathroom, he

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<v Speaker 2>said to her, Oh, I can't get you out of

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<v Speaker 2>my head. They just don't make women with birthing hips

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<v Speaker 2>like yours anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is good or bad. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>guys like curvy women now, but birthing hips.

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<v Speaker 2>Later, when she broke up with him, which is unclear

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<v Speaker 2>if it was the same night or just within a

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<v Speaker 2>short period of time, he said, I have money, if

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<v Speaker 2>that helps, as if it was an excuse for his behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Although we do like men with money. I'll just say

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<v Speaker 1>that's always a good mating strategy is to showcase your

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<v Speaker 1>financial waste. Shall we say, I don't know birthing hips. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one guy said to me once. I was a single

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<v Speaker 1>mom and I was out with my two little kids

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<v Speaker 1>at a museum and I ran into a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>had had a couple dates with back when I was single,

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<v Speaker 1>and he literally said to me, oh, you turned out

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<v Speaker 1>to be quite a breeder. It was just weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he was complimenting me, if that

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<v Speaker 1>was a good thing a bad thing. Flirting with that

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<v Speaker 1>was just weird. All right, what else you got?

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<v Speaker 2>Cassandra heard in Colorado Springs after the date had ended,

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<v Speaker 2>so after the relationship ended, essentially, he said, you need

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<v Speaker 2>someone who can handle you. Oh my goodness, pretty harsh

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. Yeah, she said, you know, she felt

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<v Speaker 2>like that kind of She was never too much. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>when she really looked back at that line, it was

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<v Speaker 2>more that he wasn't enough with what she ended up

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<v Speaker 2>feeling at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>So I remember guys used to say to me because

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<v Speaker 1>I was always a thinking woman, I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>I was smart, believe it or not. When I was

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<v Speaker 1>young and beautiful, I didn't know that I was as

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<v Speaker 1>smart as I am, and so I would be analyzing

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<v Speaker 1>whatever situation was up. And many a guy have said

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<v Speaker 1>to me, you think too much. And it was only

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<v Speaker 1>years later that I learned how to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you actually don't think it enough for me, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't like they were intimidated by my brain. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the time they insulted me by saying, like, stop thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>just be emotional and sexy. I guess I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. Is there anybody who went on a

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<v Speaker 1>date with somebody they said something awkward and then the

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<v Speaker 1>person went on to still marry them.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, not that I know of.

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<v Speaker 1>That was in the book.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>Though they got past it somehow, because I always wonder

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<v Speaker 1>like it was we had the weirdest icebreaker, but then

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<v Speaker 1>it all turned out fine in the end, because I

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<v Speaker 1>am of the the vein of give men a chance. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really hard. It's hard for them to step up,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard for them to ask a woman out, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard for them to showcase. But you know, I also

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<v Speaker 1>always say to guys, do you know what it costs

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<v Speaker 1>us to go on a date besides the hair, makeup, wardrobe, childcare, transportation,

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<v Speaker 1>and then to sit and smile for you all night

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<v Speaker 1>when we're thinking about that client we got to meet

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<v Speaker 1>with tomorrow and the big day ahead of us. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's work for us too, It's work for both people

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<v Speaker 1>doing kind of an Academy Award winning performance on a date.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, another one for us?

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<v Speaker 2>Another one would be this came in from an anonymous

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<v Speaker 2>contributor two months into their relationship. He said, not everyone

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<v Speaker 2>thinks you're beautiful, but I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Oohoo. You know what that goes in the category of

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<v Speaker 1>So there are certain ways that women can or that

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<v Speaker 1>men control women. Men who are insecure and they're afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of losing their partner, they either control them physically where

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<v Speaker 1>are you going? Who are you going to be with? No,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go out with a guy without me that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be friends with just guys you get you

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<v Speaker 1>that blah blah blah blah blah, right, or they control

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<v Speaker 1>them psychologically. Men are really good at making women feel

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<v Speaker 1>less than not all men, some men, some manipulative narcissists. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's almost like you better stay with me because

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<v Speaker 1>you'll never get better. You're lucky that I happen to

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<v Speaker 1>think you're beautiful because your value on the mating marketplace

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<v Speaker 1>out there is low. And that's how you know. Narcissists

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<v Speaker 1>manipulate women. Right, all right, before we go, Emily, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have one more for us? Yes? I do.

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<v Speaker 2>This one came in actually from a teen which gives

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit of color as well. The line is,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're ever hot at my house, just know you

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<v Speaker 2>can take your shirt off and it's totally fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Now a teenage boy, a teenage boy should say that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds exactly like a tenth grader. Okay, if you

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<v Speaker 1>had told me the guy was forty one, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have been like, oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>Pit second that said she thought he was being thoughtful

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<v Speaker 2>because it was summer, and then she she wives up

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<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Emily, thank you for joining us. Where can people

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<v Speaker 1>get the book? The book is called Things I Heard

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<v Speaker 1>Wild Dating. What can we get it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's on a website, Yeah, Things I Heard While Dating

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<v Speaker 2>dot com or on Amazon on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>Emily O'Brien, what a lovely, cute book. And I hope

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<v Speaker 1>if you've been married for twenty years that after doing

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<v Speaker 1>all this research, you know it's time to stay married

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<v Speaker 1>and bonker down, because that's what it's like out there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like she tested the water psychologically and went, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm going to work on things with my husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining us. My guest, Emily O'Brien, author

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<v Speaker 1>of Things I Heard Wild Dating, and that brings the

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Wendy Wall Show to a close. I am with

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<v Speaker 1>you every Sunday from seven to nine pm. Hey, if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't noticed, if you haven't been following me in

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<v Speaker 1>my social this is a good time to do it

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm back. I'm literally back back back. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I went through that whole thing where I need to

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<v Speaker 1>take a social media break. It's not good for my

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<v Speaker 1>mental health. And I did like a year, I can

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<v Speaker 1>have more than a million followers and I could just

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<v Speaker 1>leave everyone hanging for my own mental health, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is a good thing. But my New Year's resolution

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<v Speaker 1>was to get back. So if you haven't checked my

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram story today, there's a cute little video with me

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<v Speaker 1>and my husband Julio where I'm trying to teach him

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<v Speaker 1>what's bachelor to use. But anyway, we will beg follow

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<v Speaker 1>me if you haven't at Doctor Wendy Walsh Emily, great

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<v Speaker 1>to have you here. You've been listening to the Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy Walsh Show on KFI AM six forty live everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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