Speaker 1: This radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen in four Willie
Speaker 1: excues the Phil. Hey, we do have a little bit
Speaker 1: of breaking news, and that is it looks like a
Speaker 1: at least an understanding for a deal with Hamilton County
Speaker 1: and the Bengals. I'll just give you the highlights here
Speaker 1: real quick and we can talk about it throughout the
Speaker 1: afternoon if you want. Got a lot of other territory
Speaker 1: to cover too. Anyway, here's the high points of this thing.
Speaker 1: A new lease agreement for ten years with options for
Speaker 1: five two year extensions, four hundred and seventy million dollars
Speaker 1: worth of stadium improvements, which have been scaled back from
Speaker 1: the planned eight hundred and thirty million in a memorandum
Speaker 1: signed back in April. The county will contribute three hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty million, the team one hundred and twenty million.
Speaker 1: So they have until Monday, that's the deadline to get
Speaker 1: it passed. The commissioners are debating it as we speak,
Speaker 1: so there's a chance it could be passed today and
Speaker 1: if we get winto that, we will let you know.
Speaker 1: So nice to have that out of the way. You know,
Speaker 1: we've got a problem in this city, a big problem,
Speaker 1: and the problem is with crime. At twelve thirty we're
Speaker 1: going to talk to former Vice Mayor and former chair
Speaker 1: of the Law and Public Safety Committee of Council, Christopher Smitheman.
Speaker 1: He's really passionate on this issue and we're going to
Speaker 1: get his thoughts. And at one o'clock we're going to
Speaker 1: talk to FOP President Ken Kober. Just Tuesday, I believe
Speaker 1: it was a couple of days ago, there was a
Speaker 1: big powwow with Cincinnati police and city authorities on what
Speaker 1: they can do about it because getting real out of hand,
Speaker 1: especially in the Over the Rhine area the last twenty
Speaker 1: eight days. This is amazing. Violent crime is up seventeen
Speaker 1: percent and property crime nine percent. But listen to this.
Speaker 1: When you limit it down to Over the Rhine, violent
Speaker 1: crime is up forty eight percent and there have been
Speaker 1: this is according to AI, six hundred and thirty five
Speaker 1: incidents to date just in Over the Rhine. Now again
Speaker 1: that's from AI. I wasn't able to backcheck it anywhere else.
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is there's a real real problem
Speaker 1: down there. You know, we had a deal last week
Speaker 1: I believe it was last week where a fourteen year
Speaker 1: old kid shot and killed a sixteen year old kid.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll tell you something, back twenty thirty years ago,
Speaker 1: you would have never heard something like that. These kids
Speaker 1: are running wild fourteen years of age, and I think
Speaker 1: the problem has got him charged with felony homicide, felly murder,
Speaker 1: probably aggravated murder. And I believe at fourteen years of age,
Speaker 1: if you commit a crime such as that, that kid,
Speaker 1: fourteen year old can be tried as an adult. I
Speaker 1: don't know if the prosecutor is going to do that
Speaker 1: or not. It's prosecutors call on it. But that's what
Speaker 1: you got going on, and that and other things. He's
Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Chris Lewis. Just read
Speaker 1: a story about him this morning. He was at Liberty
Speaker 1: and Vine last week. I think it was in front
Speaker 1: of Ruby's and he got punched in the eye. No,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I take that back. This was at
Speaker 1: Liberty and Vine. The thing that happened at Rubies I'll
Speaker 1: get to later. Anyway, this guy's at Liberty and Vine.
Speaker 1: He got punched in the eye. Permanent damage, permanent damage.
Speaker 1: And of course the big one, Patrick Harringer, He's the
Speaker 1: guy that owned the gym down and over the Rhine,
Speaker 1: minding his own business, and he was robbed and murdered.
Speaker 1: So the tally is four over the Rhine. Five homicides
Speaker 1: so far this year, three in the last month. Three
Speaker 1: homicides in thirty days. The shooting at seventh of Walnut
Speaker 1: that was two women, one shot another woman in the legs.
Speaker 1: I don't think there was any fatality there, but you
Speaker 1: kind of get the idea it's a big deal. I mean,
Speaker 1: it really is. I was down I went to my
Speaker 1: first FC Cincinnati soccer game a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: went down there to TQL Stadium, great experience, and then
Speaker 1: after well, okay, we parked right in over the line.
Speaker 1: I got a parking spot. Was kind of surprised about that,
Speaker 1: and walked in, saw the game, came back out, and
Speaker 1: walked around a bit over and over the It's incredible
Speaker 1: what they have done down there. I hadn't been there
Speaker 1: in a while. I lived downtown for about twelve thirteen years,
Speaker 1: but I've been back on the West Side for about
Speaker 1: the last five years. But it's unbelievable what they've done
Speaker 1: down there. So many restaurants, clubs, all kinds of things
Speaker 1: to do. You know, they've got all kinds of historic
Speaker 1: tours you can do down there. I did one brewery
Speaker 1: tour not too long ago. It was really cool. They
Speaker 1: took you through all and most of the or many
Speaker 1: of the buildings are still there. My point is, it
Speaker 1: is really a jewel for this city. I mean again,
Speaker 1: if you haven't been down there for a while and
Speaker 1: you're not afraid to go down there, you really ought
Speaker 1: to check it out. Here's the thing. The city better
Speaker 1: get a handle on this and quickly, or all of
Speaker 1: it's going to go away. And you're probably saying, Mike,
Speaker 1: how do you know that? Well, what happened was in
Speaker 1: the two thousand and two riots. Some of you may
Speaker 1: remember those pretty bad. It was pretty bad. Main Street
Speaker 1: at the time was just kind of coming into its own.
Speaker 1: You had Neons and a bunch of other bars down there. Well,
Speaker 1: when the riots hit afterwards, just about all those places
Speaker 1: closed down because nobody wanted to go down there. My
Speaker 1: point being, you just can't have that. I mean you can't.
Speaker 1: If you build these wonderful things like they have and
Speaker 1: over the Rhine, you damn well better be able to
Speaker 1: protect the people that go down there. Well, like I said,
Speaker 1: there was a big powwow Tuesday. I believe it was
Speaker 1: with the city leaders and the police department. And we
Speaker 1: are also going to talk to FP President Ken Kober
Speaker 1: about this. We got Ken coming on at one o'clock
Speaker 1: to be interested in what he has to say. So
Speaker 1: here's what the city's proposing that they do one thing
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to asking Ken about this. That
Speaker 1: might be helpful. They're putting together this thing. They're calling
Speaker 1: it a roving task Force, which is thirty police officers,
Speaker 1: and I guess they're flexible and they will go to
Speaker 1: trouble spots within the city downtown obviously, but they'll be
Speaker 1: able to respond quickly to something like that. And you
Speaker 1: know what, if the city does it right and if
Speaker 1: the handcuffs are taken off the police, that might work.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and I'm going to get into
Speaker 1: this with Ken and Christopher Smithman because I think it
Speaker 1: came up walk he was on council. If the city
Speaker 1: leaves them alone and lets them police proactively, it could work.
Speaker 1: The term proactive policing. It scares some people because they
Speaker 1: think the cops are going to be out in the
Speaker 1: street beating people up, violating people's rights. No that's not
Speaker 1: the case. And I'll tell you something. I don't think
Speaker 1: we've had proactive policing in this city for a long
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, just a little story. From nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: five till about nineteen eighty nine or ninety, I was
Speaker 1: in the City Prosecutor's office Municipal court every day dealing
Speaker 1: with CPD cases. You would go down there in a
Speaker 1: courtroom and the police officers always sit in the jury box.
Speaker 1: The cops would be overflowing. I mean they'd be out
Speaker 1: in the hallways, in that jury box, out in the
Speaker 1: audience sometimes. My point is they were extremely active, and
Speaker 1: I know those guys, and they were proactively policing, not
Speaker 1: in an inappropriate way whatsoever. I remember there was a
Speaker 1: problem on Fountain Square back then. Well you know, they
Speaker 1: turned the police loose down there, and guess what problem solved.
Speaker 1: It was cleaned up with arrest and again mainly juveniles.
Speaker 1: But here's what I hear from young police officers today.
Speaker 1: If you police proactively and you look the wrong way
Speaker 1: at someone, or you you know, unintentionally talk to someone
Speaker 1: in a way that they don't like to be talked to,
Speaker 1: that's it. Then you're in the jackpot. You're in trouble
Speaker 1: and you can't have that. And again, I'm not advocating
Speaker 1: for anyone, any police officer to violate any rights or
Speaker 1: break any law, but we have to have we have
Speaker 1: to have aggressive, proactive policing if you want to clean
Speaker 1: these messes up, and Exhibit A is over the Rhine.
Speaker 1: The city's got to support these cops who do this.
Speaker 1: They've got this citizen's complaint authority, and you know, I
Speaker 1: guess it's something that's needed. That was a creation that
Speaker 1: came into being. I believe after those two thousand and
Speaker 1: two riots. From everything I've seen, in everything that I've heard,
Speaker 1: they're kind of biased against the police. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying get rid of it, although I think we could
Speaker 1: certainly live without it in this city. But the PD
Speaker 1: just needs to back the police officers on those things. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's proactive policing. The other thing they're proposing,
Speaker 1: and again I'm looking forward to asking Ken Kober about this,
Speaker 1: are drones. They're going to have a squad of police
Speaker 1: officers with drones. Now, I don't know that that's going
Speaker 1: to help break up any fights or homicide or anything
Speaker 1: like that, but at least the cops will have an
Speaker 1: eye on something. I don't know how they're going to
Speaker 1: do that yet, but at least they're thinking. So again,
Speaker 1: it's a problem. And I'm telling you, and you might say, well,
Speaker 1: I don't live in the city of Cincinnati, or I
Speaker 1: do live in the city of Cincinnati. I don't go
Speaker 1: down to TQL Stadium to watch FC Cincinnati. I don't
Speaker 1: go downtown to the restaurants and bars down there and
Speaker 1: over the Rhine. So I don't care. That's not a
Speaker 1: good position to take because the overall health of the
Speaker 1: city in the surrounding area is something very very important.
Speaker 1: So they got to get a handle on this thing,
Speaker 1: and I guess we'll have to see how it all
Speaker 1: works out. Anyway, we got to take a break, but
Speaker 1: I'll be back. Mike Allen in for Willie seven hundred,
Speaker 1: WLW twelve twenty seven News Radio seven hundred Mike Allen
Speaker 1: in for Willie Cunningham today. Hey, during the break, I
Speaker 1: got a flash on my phone. Aaron Glenn of the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Inquirer reports that Haimon't County commissioners approved new lease
Speaker 1: terms for paid Corpse Stadium, with one commissioner abstaining. Hamilt
Speaker 1: County commission President Denise Treehouse and Commissioner Stephanie Summerl Dumas
Speaker 1: voted yes on the lease terms. Commissioner Alisha Reese abstained.
Speaker 1: So that's interesting, and again we get some time we
Speaker 1: can talk in a little more detail about it. But
Speaker 1: call it Alice, call it agreement whatever. It was approved
Speaker 1: by two of the three commissioners, and that's all you need. Hey,
Speaker 1: during the break, I just kind of played around a
Speaker 1: little bit and we talked about those drones the Inquirer.
Speaker 1: I hope they appreciate me using them. This afternoon article
Speaker 1: by David Ferrara with respect to their drones just key points.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Police have launched a drone program to assist with
Speaker 1: investigations and respond to calls for service. The goal is
Speaker 1: to have ninety percent of the city covered by drones
Speaker 1: by the end of twenty twenty five. Drones will be
Speaker 1: used by a new task Okay, that's probably that task
Speaker 1: force I was talking about. Drones will be used by
Speaker 1: a new task force to combat a recent rise in crime,
Speaker 1: particularly among youth. Officials address privacy concerns, stating drones will
Speaker 1: not be overhead twenty four to seven and will have
Speaker 1: strict usage guidelines. I don't know, you know, as I
Speaker 1: sit here, I like it. I mean, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I don't know how it can hurt.
Speaker 1: And you do have to be concerned about privacy, but
Speaker 1: not to the point where, well, if some cop somewhere
Speaker 1: is going to peep into somebody's bedroom, we're not going
Speaker 1: to do it at all. Let's just forget about it. No,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying anybody would do that. This is
Speaker 1: a good idea as I sit here now, and again
Speaker 1: we'll ask Ken Kober about it at one o'clock. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, it looks like the city is doing
Speaker 1: something that's quite innovative. I don't know if any other
Speaker 1: cities do that. Hey, we got to take a break
Speaker 1: for the news. But when we get back, we're going
Speaker 1: to talk to former Vice mayor and former chair of
Speaker 1: the Law and Public Safety Committee at City Council, Christopher
Speaker 1: Smithman about this topic. And we'll do that when we
Speaker 1: get back. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW twelve thirty eight
Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen in for Willie. Well,
Speaker 1: like I said in the intro, there's a lot more
Speaker 1: crime downtown and the city and Police Department had a
Speaker 1: press conference on Tuesday to trot out some ideas that
Speaker 1: they have. Some I think are good, some may be
Speaker 1: not so good. But there are just a lot of
Speaker 1: things going on downtown, many of them not good. Here
Speaker 1: to talk about it is former Vice mayor of the
Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati and former chair of the Law and
Speaker 1: Public Safety Committee. He's a long time financial advisor talking
Speaker 1: about Christopher Smithman. Christopher, thanks for calling in the this afternoon. Hey,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, my pleasure. Hey, you and I talked.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about it on my Saturday show
Speaker 1: a while back. Christopher, the crime problem downtown again, you
Speaker 1: are chair of the Law and Public Safety Committee. What
Speaker 1: can city council do about that? And do you think
Speaker 1: they're engaged?
Speaker 2: So the answer to that question is no, I don't
Speaker 2: think City Hall is engaged. And I think the question
Speaker 2: becomes where is.
Speaker 3: Our mayor.
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And we have violence in downtown and our core and
Speaker 2: it's very difficult to understand what the plan is to
Speaker 2: address youth violence in downtown.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw there's a racial component
Speaker 1: to it there.
Speaker 2: I just to be honest, about an address.
Speaker 1: Did you hear about the press conference tuesday that the
Speaker 1: city had what I did? Okay, I take it from
Speaker 1: what you're saying, you're not really impressed by it.
Speaker 2: I'm not because we have fifty two neighborhoods, and you know,
Speaker 2: you are a former police officer, former Hamilton County prosecutor,
Speaker 2: and you understand that if we're not doing proactive policing,
Speaker 2: meaning our officers feel comfortable walking up to a youth,
Speaker 2: whether they're African American or white, whether the officer is
Speaker 2: white or African American, and they have an understanding that
Speaker 2: city Hall will back them up if they don't feel
Speaker 2: that we don't have proactive policing. We have laws on
Speaker 2: the book regarding purfew as an example. So if you
Speaker 2: see a youth downtown at ten o'clock and you ask
Speaker 2: our visible police officer in uniform, how are they going
Speaker 2: to handle that? I don't think there's clarity. I also
Speaker 2: believe that our violent crime squad, which you know, Mike Allen,
Speaker 2: is out of uniform. Right, that's not a deterrent because
Speaker 2: they're typically coming in to mopping up. They're responding to
Speaker 2: something that somebody was attacked. But that officer in uniform
Speaker 2: with a cruiser is a deterrent.
Speaker 1: No question.
Speaker 2: And so I'm not satisfied that between the time of
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock at night or ten o'clock at night until
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning that if a citizen goes
Speaker 2: in the downtow, going to the aeronofs, going down on
Speaker 2: the square, that they're gonna be safe.
Speaker 1: And obviously, Christopher, that's a huge, huge problem, especially as
Speaker 1: it relates to OTR. I mean, I went down there.
Speaker 1: I think I told you this a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: It went the COAFC game and then walked around down
Speaker 1: there after. I mean, it's incredible what they have done
Speaker 1: down there. I don't know if it's three c DC,
Speaker 1: the city, whatever, doesn't matter, but that's a jewel and
Speaker 1: we're gonna lose it if we keep having this violent crime,
Speaker 1: not only just there but mainly there, but in the
Speaker 1: city as well. One of the things, Christopher, that I
Speaker 1: know would help, obviously are more cops. As I understand
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna ask Ken Kober about this when we
Speaker 1: talk to him. As I understand that they have about
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty slots committed. I don't know how
Speaker 1: soon they're going to fill them. They're also gonna go
Speaker 1: with lateral transfers, which makes a lot of sense. That's
Speaker 1: where let's just say a Dell, Hi Police officer already trained,
Speaker 1: already sworn in UH can get the job I think
Speaker 1: with a minimal amount of time at the Cincinnati Police Academy.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. If they don't true, if they
Speaker 1: don't do something quickly, they're going to lose that gem.
Speaker 2: So we had thirty seven police officers who just came
Speaker 2: out of the academy, and I want to say that
Speaker 2: we have the best training in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2: You know, Colubs has a closed training, Cincinnati has a
Speaker 2: closed training, So you can come from a lateral place,
Speaker 2: Mike Allen, but you still have to go through our training.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's the full vote. But it's
Speaker 1: some training.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, it's some training. But and I'm not
Speaker 2: saying something bad about the lateral moves. We need more officers.
Speaker 2: But right now, if our current officers don't believe that
Speaker 2: city Hall is going to back them up, you got
Speaker 2: a white officer approaching an African American youth. They're using
Speaker 2: de escalation language, and that officer decides I'm not going
Speaker 2: to pull out my weapon, but I'm going to pull
Speaker 2: out my kaser and they caase that youth. They don't
Speaker 2: believe that city hall is going to back them up
Speaker 2: my calendar.
Speaker 1: That's a problem. I have no doubt about that, Christopher none.
Speaker 2: And so how do we how do we have a
Speaker 2: mayor and nine members of council who are saying we're
Speaker 2: going to do overtime, whether it's TVO. We've got fifty
Speaker 2: two neighborhoods. You went to Elder. You have a great
Speaker 2: understanding of what war Staw you used to look like. Oh,
Speaker 2: and what it looks like today.
Speaker 1: It's horrible.
Speaker 2: We understand that of Elder and Seatan that we're going
Speaker 2: to pull out. What do you think would happened to
Speaker 2: Price here?
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, I'll tell you what. Well, Number one, there'd
Speaker 1: be a riot of eldergrads because nobody would be for that.
Speaker 1: But you're right. I moved back to the west side, Christopher,
Speaker 1: not Price Hill. But I mean I drive through there
Speaker 1: a lot and it breaks my heart what has happened
Speaker 1: up there. I mean that's where my family, Dad, Grandpa,
Speaker 1: all them came from and again it's just I think
Speaker 1: symptomatic of not having aggressive policing, proactive policing. You hit
Speaker 1: the nail on the head with that one man. And
Speaker 1: let me just tell you a story. I mentioned this before.
Speaker 1: From about nineteen eighty five to nineteen eighty nine, I
Speaker 1: was an assistant city prosecutor. I mean thisial court every day,
Speaker 1: prosecuting misdemeanor cases. And there were cops everywhere in municipal
Speaker 1: court back in those days, Christopher, I mean they were
Speaker 1: kind of out in the hallways and everything else. I
Speaker 1: think now in municipal court they have about half the
Speaker 1: cases that they used to have back then. And I'm
Speaker 1: hearing that the reason is is these young police officers
Speaker 1: they don't want to stick their necks out because they're
Speaker 1: afraid what will happen is exactly what you've been talking about,
Speaker 1: no backing from the city.
Speaker 2: Correct. And the reason I'm highlighting this is we have
Speaker 2: an election in November for mayor and a first city council. Now,
Speaker 2: if the fifty two neighborhoods say they're going to vote
Speaker 2: for the same people vote for the same mayor, please
Speaker 2: don't expect crime to drop. You have to elect a
Speaker 2: mayor who the police department respects that if I am
Speaker 2: out here and I run into a situation, I follow
Speaker 2: my training protocol. I use my de escalation language, but
Speaker 2: that youth pulled something on me, and I use deadly
Speaker 2: forced that the mayor and the nine members of council
Speaker 2: have their backs. They don't feel that way right now,
Speaker 2: Mike Callum.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 2: They don't they and they need and they need to
Speaker 2: have leadership like myself to articulate this to the fifty
Speaker 2: two neighborhoods, to say, if you don't elect somebody who
Speaker 2: sends the message. Matter of fact, if you ask the mayor,
Speaker 2: when's the last time you've been to a roll call,
Speaker 2: when's the last time you've been doing a ride a law,
Speaker 2: when's the last time you did a press conference? And
Speaker 2: you let use you use the language and said, I
Speaker 2: support my police, I support my police chief. We need
Speaker 2: proactive policing. I need you downtown. I realized that the
Speaker 2: violent crime Squad is there out of uniform, but I'm
Speaker 2: going to have I'm going to have officers there in uniform,
Speaker 2: and they're going to be supporting and enforcing the laws
Speaker 2: on the books, like our curfew and when we run
Speaker 2: into a problem, I have your back, crime's going to drop.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's exactly what they have to do.
Speaker 1: Whether they're going to do it or not, I don't know. Again,
Speaker 1: you know, talking to those young officers when I was
Speaker 1: there in court a lot, they don't Again, they just
Speaker 1: don't want to stick their neck out because they want
Speaker 1: to keep their job. Another thing, too, Christopher and I
Speaker 1: know we've talked about this too, is the retention problem.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that absolutely floors me. I mean,
Speaker 1: back in the seventies when we had to take test
Speaker 1: twice because we got laid off, we had to take
Speaker 1: it again. There were three four thousand people down at
Speaker 1: convention center going for a couple one hundred jobs. I mean,
Speaker 1: and now you practically have to beg for them to
Speaker 1: become police officers. And one of the other problems we
Speaker 1: talked about this you and I qualified immunity and removing
Speaker 1: qualified immunity for police officers. Good luck trying to find
Speaker 1: anybody that wants to do that job. Just real quickly.
Speaker 1: Qualified immunity is if an officer acts in good faith
Speaker 1: but makes a mistake, they're not going to be charged criminally.
Speaker 1: There is a move afoot. I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be on the ballot in November to do that. And
Speaker 1: let me tell you, the cops know about it, and
Speaker 1: we got to defeat that thing.
Speaker 2: On. So let's be clear here again that you have
Speaker 2: an election, Mike Allan here, and so I'm supporting Corey
Speaker 2: Bowman over the current mayor. I'm supporting a young lady
Speaker 2: by the name of Linda Matthews. And I say that
Speaker 2: in respect that her team is listening, meaning she's a
Speaker 2: grown woman, She's been around, she understands the laws, and
Speaker 2: I support her for city council running as an independent.
Speaker 2: We have to elect people that will support the most
Speaker 2: important part of the work that city council and the
Speaker 2: mayor do, keeping the citizens state. Number two is the budget,
Speaker 2: but but number one is safety. How do you have
Speaker 2: a married couple downtown on the over the Rhine, Sarah
Speaker 2: Sarah and Patrick soone kicks their door in kills her husband.
Speaker 2: Horrible and we don't have a mayor and council reaction
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 2: And all I'm saying, Mike Allan is that where is
Speaker 2: the mayor? Where are the nine members of council? And
Speaker 2: I'm and I'm sharing with you when you talk about
Speaker 2: the gym that you see downtown. John Cramley Mayor John Cranley,
Speaker 2: and he's a blue dog Democrat who supported the police.
Speaker 2: There wasn't like this kind of like, well do you
Speaker 2: support the police or not. Tom Luken supported the police.
Speaker 2: He was a Democrat.
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 2: But you have a group of people right now who
Speaker 2: are different. It's woe agenda where you don't have them
Speaker 2: making it that they support law enforcement. And while they
Speaker 2: move assets around to support the central district district downtown,
Speaker 2: you also leave the other fifty one neighborhoods exposed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that's always been a problem. Christopher. We
Speaker 1: only have about a minute left. Anything you'd like to
Speaker 1: say in closing. I'd like to.
Speaker 2: Say that we have a city council that's passing resolutions
Speaker 2: or what's going on in Israel? Yeah, and Tamas and
Speaker 2: that's not an exaggeration. We have a mayor that's going
Speaker 2: downtown involving in the no Kings protests, with with with
Speaker 2: with the fall Magne Fall. Yeah, they're missing and they're
Speaker 2: distracted by what they really need to do. I want
Speaker 2: police officers to hear my voice. You're going to have
Speaker 2: to the FOP president who you're going to interview. They're
Speaker 2: going to have to support those members of council and
Speaker 2: a mayor who will support law.
Speaker 1: Enforcement, no question, no question. Chris Frez always appreciates you
Speaker 1: spending some time with us, Buddy, I really do.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Mike cal Okay, thank you all right, you too. That
Speaker 1: was Christopher Smitheman, former Vice mayor of the city and
Speaker 1: chair of the Law and Public Safety Committee. It's got
Speaker 1: some pretty strong thoughts obviously, as he just heard about
Speaker 1: public safety in this city. And I guess we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. Hey, we got to take a break, but
Speaker 1: when we get back, we are going to talk to
Speaker 1: FOP President Ken Kober and we'll do that right after
Speaker 1: the news. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW. He oh, seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW. Mike Allen inn for Willie Cunningham. Well, you
Speaker 1: know what, if you've been listening this afternoon, you already know,
Speaker 1: and if you follow the news, you already no. Violent
Speaker 1: crime in the city of Cincinnati is rising and citizens
Speaker 1: are getting concerned. Within the last twenty eight days, violent
Speaker 1: crime is up seventeen percent and property crime is up
Speaker 1: almost nine percent, and those numbers when you keep it
Speaker 1: down to OTR over the rhine, they're off the charts.
Speaker 1: City leaders called a press conference on Tuesday where they
Speaker 1: rolled out some new initiatives to try to address the problem.
Speaker 1: Here to talk about it is FOP Lodge sixty nine,
Speaker 1: CPD President Ken kober Ken. Thanks for calling.
Speaker 3: In sure, Mike, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Hey, your thoughts in general on the uptick in crime,
Speaker 1: and then we'll talk about what the city has proposed.
Speaker 1: But just your thoughts in general. I mean, you talk
Speaker 1: to the guys and the ladies every day. What are
Speaker 1: you hearing from them?
Speaker 3: Well, that mean there's no doubt that there's been increased
Speaker 3: gun violence on the last twenty eight days, and it's
Speaker 3: something we certainly got to get a bold of.
Speaker 1: They rolled out some initiatives at the press conference. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you were there or not, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure you talked about them and read them at least
Speaker 1: your thoughts on what they're proposing. One thing that I
Speaker 1: thought was interesting is this thirty person roving squad. I
Speaker 1: assumed that it'd be uniform offsers. I don't know they'd
Speaker 1: have the flexibility to go, you know, where they were needed.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: And this is something that's been done before. It is
Speaker 3: shown to be effective in short term times, but it's
Speaker 3: not going to be sustainable moving forward. Like I said,
Speaker 3: they're going to do it for the next thing ninety
Speaker 3: days or so. I think you're all going to see
Speaker 3: a decrease in crime because they're going to have officers
Speaker 3: going out doing proactive work. After those ninety days when
Speaker 3: they go by to their assignments and do the other things.
Speaker 2: That's the time that.
Speaker 3: We're going to have to see is the whether it
Speaker 3: really made an impact or not. What I would like
Speaker 3: to see is the city going and telling officers even
Speaker 3: that are running beats, go be proactive, go to your job,
Speaker 3: make sure the city space.
Speaker 1: You know, Ken, you and I have talked about that
Speaker 1: a number of times, and you know, I keep giving
Speaker 1: the example when I was in the City Prosecutor's office
Speaker 1: from like eighty five to eighty nine, My goodness, I mean,
Speaker 1: there were twice at least twice as many CPD officers
Speaker 1: and police officers in general, but mainly CPD in those courtrooms.
Speaker 1: I think the cases have probably been cut in half.
Speaker 1: What do you think the reason is why perhaps they're
Speaker 1: not patrolling as proactively as they can.
Speaker 3: Well, it comes down there, we're one hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: officers short. So officers are running radio run to radio
Speaker 3: run to radio run. They get worn out, They work
Speaker 3: overtime on their off days to cover shift. When they
Speaker 3: get a chance to breathe and take a take a minute,
Speaker 3: it's not going to go do proactive work. They want
Speaker 3: to take a break, if something to drink, have something
Speaker 3: to eat, and it's just not being done. But the
Speaker 3: other part of this is a lot of officers feel
Speaker 3: like they're just not being supported and that you know,
Speaker 3: if they go out and do something, they're going to
Speaker 3: be second guests and are ultimately are they going.
Speaker 1: To be supported?
Speaker 3: And that's that's a real feeling or real perception of
Speaker 3: these officers, and that's that is certainly driving some of
Speaker 3: this lack of proactivity.
Speaker 1: You know what, And I I see that and I
Speaker 1: agree with it completely, and I don't blame them either.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you're not going to get
Speaker 1: that backing from city Hall or the police administration, then
Speaker 1: why stick your neck out and then ken you throw
Speaker 1: in what we unfortunately are probably going to have on
Speaker 1: the ballot in November of getting rid of qualified immunity
Speaker 1: for police officers. I mean, really, it's no wonder that
Speaker 1: people guys will answer their radios radio runs in that set,
Speaker 1: I guess, well, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, anytime that officer gets complained on it, they end
Speaker 3: up having to go to the Internal Investigation secsion and
Speaker 3: then they also have to get on to the citizen's
Speaker 3: complain authority. And that some of the rulings that have
Speaker 3: come out of that show right now has been absolutely terrible.
Speaker 3: You know, we have an officer that had a sustained
Speaker 3: other violation because he had a cigar in his hand.
Speaker 3: That's what they're worried about investigating, not whether or not
Speaker 3: an officer is treated as citizen fairly or not because.
Speaker 1: He had a cigar in his hand.
Speaker 3: Yes, three different interviews for him to come out of
Speaker 3: his neighborhood where we have people that are getting murdered
Speaker 3: and they have him come down so he can explain
Speaker 3: why he had a cigar in his hand.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. I take it it doesn't sound like you and
Speaker 1: your officers feel like you're getting a fair shake in
Speaker 1: that particular forum.
Speaker 3: Well, and then you see that some of the rulings
Speaker 3: from the CCA board and that siesca that's going on,
Speaker 3: and officers are just like, listen, I don't want to
Speaker 3: deal with this. I'll come in, I'll do what I'm
Speaker 3: supposed to do, which is protective city. I'm going to
Speaker 3: answer the radio. I'm going to take care of what
Speaker 3: I have to take care of it. I'm not going
Speaker 3: to give them anything else. And that's what's happening, yep.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, anybody that's been involved in law enforcement
Speaker 1: in this city I think knows that. Boy. And it's
Speaker 1: a hell of a situation to be in too, when
Speaker 1: you've got this violent crime uptick. I mean, especially in
Speaker 1: a place like over the Rhine. You know, I was
Speaker 1: a prosecutor in two thousand and two when they had
Speaker 1: the riots down there then and Main Street I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember, maybe you do. Main Street was
Speaker 1: just really starting to pick up. You had neons down
Speaker 1: there and some other establishments. It was pretty cool. After
Speaker 1: those riots, that's it, buddy, I mean, just not all
Speaker 1: of them, but just about all of them closed down.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't think some in the
Speaker 1: city understand that, or maybe they don't believe it's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: but I guarantee it will.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's no doubt. You look at you know,
Speaker 3: the citizens complain Authority has been around for twenty three,
Speaker 3: twenty four years. It hasn't always been bad. But what
Speaker 3: they're subjective to these officers right now, they just they
Speaker 3: don't want to do anything proactive because they already getmplained on
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to deal with this, so they just
Speaker 3: don't deal with it, you know, and it's a direct
Speaker 3: reflection of the leadership of the city. They need to
Speaker 3: fix it so these officers feel supported so they can
Speaker 3: go out and do their jobs.
Speaker 1: Ken Kober, let's just say you're king of the world
Speaker 1: and you can solve this problem. What do you or
Speaker 1: what would need to be done to kind of get
Speaker 1: that aggressive, proactive policing kind of back in the officers' heads.
Speaker 1: I know you said, you know, get some support from
Speaker 1: the city. I get that, but anything specifically, well.
Speaker 3: The first thing would be action. Wait, when officers go
Speaker 3: out and they're involved in something, support them, you know,
Speaker 3: don't send them to CCA because you know they set
Speaker 3: a cuss word when they're trying to arrest somebody. That's
Speaker 3: trying to fight them. The other thing is they talk
Speaker 3: about gun violence in these juveniles stealing cars.
Speaker 2: We know they're stealing cars.
Speaker 3: And they're going out and they're stealing guns and they're
Speaker 3: shooting each other. There's absolutely no reason that police officers
Speaker 3: should not be able to go out and chase somebody
Speaker 3: that they know is to be armed in a vehicle. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we currently our procedure says you can't do it. If
Speaker 3: we're going to be serious about getting guns off the street,
Speaker 3: let these officers go do their job. Change the procedure,
Speaker 3: allow them to chase these violent people, and maybe some
Speaker 3: things will change.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't realize that was the policy. Now, that's
Speaker 1: kind of crazy, you know, and you got teams so
Speaker 1: much of it. It seems to me, Ken Cobra is
Speaker 1: these teams we had not too long ago. Fourteen year
Speaker 1: old shot, a sixteen year old shot and killed. I
Speaker 1: believe that a sixteen year old in over the Rhine. Now,
Speaker 1: one of the things that that came out of that
Speaker 1: press conference they talked about parental responsibility. I think you
Speaker 1: would agree with me that you can just forget about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're limited in what they can do but
Speaker 1: the only thing you could do is charge a parent
Speaker 1: with contributing, and to do that you'd have to have
Speaker 1: an affirmative act on the part of the part of
Speaker 1: a parent. But I mean, do you see that as
Speaker 1: any type of answer at all.
Speaker 3: Well, I know we have had some investigators that have
Speaker 3: been able to charge parents, but those are very limited
Speaker 3: cases because, like you said, you have to show that
Speaker 3: they actually participated in some of these things.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, twenty years ago, we had problems with juveniles.
Speaker 3: Every summer we would have curfew sleeps. We'd open up
Speaker 3: a rec center. We have officers there to process these kids.
Speaker 3: We go round them all up, put them in prisoner vans,
Speaker 3: take them to the rec center, call their parents. So
Speaker 3: it's called a closed referral. So we show that we
Speaker 3: actually had contact with these kids, but they're not having
Speaker 3: contact with the justices them. But then it also in
Speaker 3: convents inconvenience to parents because they had to come get
Speaker 3: these kids at twelve.
Speaker 1: One, two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's something we could be doing now, but
Speaker 3: it's just not being done. Twenty twenty won't even take.
Speaker 1: These kits for curfew, right. Yeah, I was going to
Speaker 1: ask you that. I mean even the violent offenses.
Speaker 3: I guess correct, Yeah, many many violent offenses. Even they
Speaker 3: go to twenty twenty and they're immediately released to their parents.
Speaker 3: It's the gun charge. They're going to be released and
Speaker 3: they're going to go back to their parents.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 3: We wonder why these kids are repeatedly running around with guns.
Speaker 1: They're now shooting each other. That's pretty incredible. One of
Speaker 1: the things they proposed can was drones, and I guess
Speaker 1: they're going to do it. What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1: How would that work? And sounds to me like what
Speaker 1: they're talking about with that I might be wrong. Is
Speaker 1: those thirty officers in the violent crime squad that moves around,
Speaker 1: what do you know about how they're going to utilize
Speaker 1: those drones.
Speaker 3: These drones are an absolutely fantastic tool and it is
Speaker 3: the future of policing. I mean, you see our military
Speaker 3: uses them all the time. They'll fly a drone you
Speaker 3: to the other side of the world. You'll a dab
Speaker 3: a bomb. The ones that we have here are basically
Speaker 3: they're called drones' first responders. They have the capability to
Speaker 3: fly around, if they have a radio run, they can
Speaker 3: go to a specific location, see what's going on. Say
Speaker 3: you have a gun run I'll use that as an example. Sure,
Speaker 3: you know, and the suspect is you know, we have
Speaker 3: a mail with a purple shirt at second in Maine.
Speaker 3: We can send a drone there. These cameras are absolutely
Speaker 3: incredible on them and we can locate and see, hey,
Speaker 3: is this is this person there? And if they are,
Speaker 3: then they can coordinate with the officers on the ground
Speaker 3: to be able to figure out how to safely go
Speaker 3: in and encounter this person. I mean, it's got capability
Speaker 3: to talk to them through uh speakers, right, has the
Speaker 3: ability to record things. I mean you can. You can
Speaker 3: have these drones eight nine hundred feet in air and
Speaker 3: they can zoom in and they can see your phone
Speaker 3: if you're sending a testa and.
Speaker 1: The bad guys, since they're so high, doesn't know they're there.
Speaker 1: I guess presumably hopefully they have no idea. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: a hell of a tool. You guys don't have that
Speaker 1: now that's going to come from this new initiative. Is
Speaker 1: that accurate?
Speaker 3: Oh? We've been using them intermittently for probably about the
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 1: Really, we used them in.
Speaker 3: The shooting on May first, after we had people that
Speaker 3: fled into the woods, they were able to deploy drones
Speaker 3: which assisted in locating.
Speaker 2: Some of them.
Speaker 1: Wow, you know what, And that's like you said, I
Speaker 1: think technology, new technology that is really going to help.
Speaker 1: It sounds like that's really it's really exciting, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean it's interesting too. We got a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes left. I wanted to go back to the staffing
Speaker 1: levels and the getting people that want to be police
Speaker 1: officers these days. I think that what I heard, the
Speaker 1: goal is one hundred and fifty and they've got a
Speaker 1: new class now going through lateral transfers. Now that's been
Speaker 1: some that's been around for a while. I think CPD
Speaker 1: you correct me if I'm wrong, did it for a while.
Speaker 1: Just your thoughts on that in general, the you know,
Speaker 1: like weekend e bench downtown. I'm hearing a lot of
Speaker 1: these cops are forced they're forced to work overtime for that,
Speaker 1: and obviously that would be helped by more police officers.
Speaker 3: Sure. So in the twenty five years I've been here,
Speaker 3: the first lateral class we did was about two thousand
Speaker 3: and four. Cleveland laid off a bunch of police officers
Speaker 3: and we had a class of like about eighteen Cleveland officers. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: what we found is within a year most of them
Speaker 3: went back to Cleveland because they got rehired.
Speaker 1: Really kind to turn.
Speaker 3: The city off of wanting to do this, but then
Speaker 3: we saw the need. We started having a couple out
Speaker 3: of classes. Our last one was in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: It is a fantastic idea. I appreciate the city council
Speaker 3: has committed to money to do this. We certainly have
Speaker 3: a need and we certainly have the interest for experienced
Speaker 3: officers that want to leave the departments that they're at
Speaker 3: to come here. We could use tops from Kentucky or
Speaker 3: Indiana now that some of the rules that they PATA
Speaker 3: have changed. There's no doubt or benefits in Ohio were
Speaker 3: much better than Kentucky and Indiana's enough. Being situated so
Speaker 3: close geographically, it's a real opportunity to get experienced officers
Speaker 3: and get them on the street and be effective a
Speaker 3: lot sooner than the traditional academy class.
Speaker 1: What is that going to start ken getting the lateral
Speaker 1: transfers if you know.
Speaker 3: My understanding of their goals to have a class by
Speaker 3: the end of the year. But it's an abbreviated class
Speaker 3: six eight weeks compared to twenty eight weeks for a
Speaker 3: traditional class. So I mean the impact that they're going
Speaker 3: to be able to have is going to be much
Speaker 3: much sooner than having a traditional class.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a heck of an idea.
Speaker 1: But the goal again, or at least they've said, is
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty one hundred and fifty new police officers.
Speaker 1: Is that within this year or is that spread out
Speaker 1: or is that immediately?
Speaker 3: So we're going to have a class that starts July
Speaker 3: twenty first. That's going to be a twenty eight week
Speaker 3: class that's going to have approximately sixty. If we have
Speaker 3: a lateral class that starts October November somewhere around there,
Speaker 3: that would be an additional thirty, okay, and then in
Speaker 3: the spring we would have another class that would be
Speaker 3: approximately sixty.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha. Hey, we're out of time, Ken Kober, But boy,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you talking to us this afternoon, and keep
Speaker 1: me posted on how it's going.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, we'll do.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Mike, Okay, thank you? All right.
Speaker 1: That was Ken Cober, president of FOP Lodge sixty nine.
Speaker 1: Didn't get the sense of Ken was really that hepped
Speaker 1: up on some of the things that were suggested in
Speaker 1: that press conference on Tuesday. However, the drone thing is interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean that really is. And well, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what done right, It looks like that could be a
Speaker 1: heck of a good tool for law enforcement. I'm going
Speaker 1: to keep my eye on that. Hey, we got to
Speaker 1: take a break, but we'll be back. Mike Allen in
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Speaker 5: missing in the federal administration.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Mike.
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Speaker 7: Bengals and Hamilton County have an assort about that agreement today.
Speaker 7: The new lease agreement covering ten years should go through
Speaker 7: at least twenty to thirty six of our men and
Speaker 7: strike and Jill Borough aren't going anywhere for a while.
Speaker 1: I think it's great.
Speaker 7: It's four hundred and seventy million, the Bengals and the
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Speaker 7: go right there. It's all done. And Katie Black believe
Speaker 7: Brown said today that it's a great day for the
Speaker 7: city of sty and the Bingles.
Speaker 1: I agree. It keeps them there too, I mean, and
Speaker 1: that's what we all needed to see. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a two to one vote in the commission.
Speaker 7: Four June thirtieth was the deadline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they got the.
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Speaker 1: You would think so, you would hope. So at least
Speaker 1: now they got to get back in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's well, that's it's.
Speaker 1: A great day to be a Bengals fan.
Speaker 7: That's what I was just about ready to say. The
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Speaker 7: It's been closed right for the past year here and
Speaker 7: they're undergoing two hundred and forty million dollars renovation there.
Speaker 7: Who's going to open up at the first event. It's
Speaker 7: going to be anywhere sixteenth and seventeenth with Red fesh Man.
Speaker 1: That sounds good. You know, I've gone down there quite
Speaker 1: a bit. That's a fun thing. I'm glad they're bringing
Speaker 1: it back. I think the fans liked it.
Speaker 7: I think there are anyone because need to get up
Speaker 7: both in firstal autogram, you know, and everything else that
Speaker 7: I mean it is to say fun events and it's
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Speaker 7: they start playing training there we go again.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 7: Today even on the red off day, half a dozen
Speaker 7: red pressing Children's Hospital today, and on this day outside
Speaker 7: where it's one hundred and fifty thousand degrees in the heat,
Speaker 7: LA Dealers Cruit is holding a baseball tea today. You know,
Speaker 7: guys just are sitting around on it off there. They're
Speaker 7: getting some stuff done for the community.
Speaker 2: You know, l about that.
Speaker 1: Ellie's a good community guy too. I don't know if
Speaker 1: people realize that I read something about that, you know what,
Speaker 1: and you know that's that is such a great thing
Speaker 1: to see those guys doing that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, and they just got done taking two
Speaker 7: out of three from the games, yep, and they just
Speaker 7: run right into a Matt free blast and they who
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Speaker 7: the first major leader and to make the leagues to
Speaker 7: go for a ten game within he was dominant last night.
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Speaker 2: But most of all they kept entering Judge and a.
Speaker 7: Few other guys in next the whole one too. They
Speaker 7: got the day off, the take and the fund race
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Speaker 7: then Philadelphia, so it doesn't get any easier, but uh,
Speaker 7: you know the way that is one and they're doing
Speaker 7: a good job right now.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'll tell you what. You don't beat the New
Speaker 1: York Yankees with four hits. But I was hoping for
Speaker 1: the sweep obviously, but hey, two out of three from them,
Speaker 1: that ain't bad.
Speaker 7: No, it's not bad at all. You know. They that's
Speaker 7: their first loss in about I don't know how many
Speaker 7: games against the Yankees over a couple of years, because
Speaker 7: last year they tosched them up in New York, so
Speaker 7: they were close to a sleep. But you know, two
Speaker 7: out of three don't take.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, you know they're three over five hundred now
Speaker 1: I think five and a half out, but only two
Speaker 1: and a half out in the wild cards, so there's
Speaker 1: still a lot of baseball left to play, so that
Speaker 1: is correct.
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Speaker 1: for the great American Willie Cunningham. A little bit more
Speaker 1: on the Bengals deal. It looks like it's done. I
Speaker 1: don't know still whether they voted on it or not yet,
Speaker 1: but for all practical purposes, it's done. Really good story
Speaker 1: from Aaron Glynn and Quinlan Bentley in the Cincinnati in quiet,
Speaker 1: just a couple nuggets from it.
Speaker 7: I guess.
Speaker 1: Hamilton County and the Cincinnati Bengals have reached a proposed
Speaker 1: deal on terms for a new lease to keep the
Speaker 1: team at pay Course Stadium. Highlights of the deal expected
Speaker 1: to be voted on by the county's three commissioners June
Speaker 1: twenty sixth, which is today. So I don't know, Alisa
Speaker 1: Reese abstained. Don't really know why, but she has been
Speaker 1: kind of at loggerheads with the other two commissioners. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's just a little highlight of it. A new lease
Speaker 1: agreement for eleven years, superseding the current lease and beginning
Speaker 1: four the twenty twenty five season. It also includes options
Speaker 1: for five two year extensions at the end of that term.
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know what the normal length
Speaker 1: of a stadium lease is, but eleven years, hopefully you
Speaker 1: would think it would be a little bit more than that,
Speaker 1: but it is what it is. Okay, here's the biggie.
Speaker 1: Four hundred and seventy million dollars worth of stadium improvements
Speaker 1: which have been scaled back from they originally wanted eight
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty million. That was from a memorandum signed
Speaker 1: back in April, and I think that's what got part
Speaker 1: of what got Commissioner Reese's iire up. The county's contribution
Speaker 1: will be capped at three hundred and fifty million, and
Speaker 1: the team will pay one hundred and twenty million. The
Speaker 1: Bengals will man it will manage renovations with input from
Speaker 1: the county. You know, I haven't been down there lately.
Speaker 1: I think I maybe hit one game last year, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I look around and it's like,
Speaker 1: what the hell's wrong with it now? But I get it.
Speaker 1: It's the NFL. You gotta keep up with the Joneses.
Speaker 1: I guess the county's contribution will be capped at three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million and the team will pay one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty million. Already read you that. Let's see
Speaker 1: this is interesting. I wonder if this is kind of
Speaker 1: a new feature here. If the Bengals achieve a twenty
Speaker 1: fourth or better ranking of total NFL revenue in the
Speaker 1: eighth and ninth years of the least term, they automatically
Speaker 1: have to exercise a two year extension. That's interesting. In
Speaker 1: all the negotiations, I hadn't heard that one. The team
Speaker 1: will pay one million per year in rent for the
Speaker 1: first three years, increasing to two million annually by year four.
Speaker 1: Bengals and the county will be responsible for the stadium's
Speaker 1: maintenance and operational expenses under terms that mirror the current arrangement.
Speaker 1: The team is on the hook for game day costs,
Speaker 1: while the county will flip the bill for non game
Speaker 1: day expenses. The county can employ a third party firm
Speaker 1: to market the stadium on non game days. Now, I
Speaker 1: don't know that they had that before. I think that
Speaker 1: was kind of a bonus contention. So it's good Bengals
Speaker 1: will receive. This is the Bengals. Bengals will received ninety
Speaker 1: three percent of the parking revenue, with the county collecting
Speaker 1: the rest. So anyway, pretty good deal for the Bengals there.
Speaker 1: That's got to be some serious revenue. But that's what
Speaker 1: it is if it has not been signed. I believe
Speaker 1: it has to be signed by the thirtieth, which is
Speaker 1: next Monday. But from what I'm reading and what i'm
Speaker 1: seeing here just as I sit here, it looks like
Speaker 1: it's for all intents and purposes finished passing by a
Speaker 1: two to three vote. So that's that. I did want
Speaker 1: to say something too, about what happened in New York.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, and I'm sure i'll talk about
Speaker 1: this Saturday on my Saturday show. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: happening in this country. I guess you can say that
Speaker 1: it's only New York, but I mean a guy who
Speaker 1: is he's an admitted socialist, Many fear is a communist
Speaker 1: many feel is an anti Semite. He is, without question
Speaker 1: a socialist. He's a zo Ran mom Dommy thirty three
Speaker 1: year old State assembly member from Queens. He's originally from Uganda.
Speaker 1: He beat out Cuomo, who had some problems back in
Speaker 1: the day, got out of politics for a while, trying
Speaker 1: to make a comeback. He's the guy that I would
Speaker 1: have thought one, even in New York. It's just hard
Speaker 1: for me to believe that they would elect a guy
Speaker 1: like this. But it's a goofy kind of primary. I
Speaker 1: don't fully understand that. It's kind of a weighted and
Speaker 1: ranked voting thing. I don't know why in the hell
Speaker 1: they just don't, you know, have the election. Who ever
Speaker 1: got the most votes wins. But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: The Republicans are all over this already aiming to tie
Speaker 1: House Democrats to my ma'am, ma'am. I guess that's how
Speaker 1: you say it. And buddy, you better believe they will.
Speaker 1: And our CC spokesman Mike Marinella argued that quote, every
Speaker 1: vulnerable House Democrat will own him, and every Democrat running
Speaker 1: in a primary will fear him. Absolutely right. JD Vans,
Speaker 1: I guess today got into the game here too. JD wrote,
Speaker 1: presumably on x congratulations to the new leader of the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party in a post. No, it's Blue Sky, a
Speaker 1: social media platform frequented by progressives, so he's just kind
Speaker 1: of gigging a little bit. Veteran Republican strategist Colin Reid
Speaker 1: told Fox News that the Democratic Party is trying to
Speaker 1: convince people that the tail is not wagging the dog
Speaker 1: and they don't answer to the extreme elements of their party. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right now, that entire effort is undercut by a socialist
Speaker 1: winning handily in a bell weather election to determine who's
Speaker 1: going to run Erica's largest city. It's a messaging nightmare
Speaker 1: that's going to unfold in real time now until the midterms.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 1: It is only one person, but again, it is New
Speaker 1: York City too, and you better believe the Republicans are
Speaker 1: going to be tying that around their neck. The Republican
Speaker 1: candidate is, I understand it is Curtis Sleewap. You might
Speaker 1: recognize the name. He was the founder of the Guardian
Speaker 1: Angels and kind of became a political guy, and I
Speaker 1: like him a lot. If I lived in New York City,
Speaker 1: That's who I'd vote for but thank god I don't
Speaker 1: live there anyway. We have to take a break, but
Speaker 1: when we get back, we're going to talk to Janis Heiseel.
Speaker 1: This is going to be interesting. It's all about young
Speaker 1: people on social media and congressional potential, congressional action to
Speaker 1: kind of curb it, or at least to hold it
Speaker 1: back a little bit. We'll talk to Janis when we
Speaker 1: get back. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW, This Radio seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW. Mike Allen in for Willie closing hour of
Speaker 1: saying Well. Congress could potentially pass the first major legislation
Speaker 1: related to children's online safety since all the way back
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight. The Kids Online Safety Act, known
Speaker 1: as KOSA was reintroduced earlier this month after stalling in
Speaker 1: Congress last year. Our next guest, Janet Heisel of the
Speaker 1: Epoch Times, attended to rally Monday in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: That was called the National Social Media Victims Day, and
Speaker 1: she's here too. Tell us about it today, Janis, thanks
Speaker 1: so much for calling in today.
Speaker 8: Hey, Mike, thank you. I think this is such an important.
Speaker 1: Pocket extremely important. Janis, can you tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit about the national Social media Victims Day and what
Speaker 1: you learned up in DC from And I know you've
Speaker 1: got a very comprehensive article in the Epoch Times, but
Speaker 1: you talk to a lot of people, a lot of
Speaker 1: victims parents, tell us what you learned.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 8: I think one of the biggest things I'd like to
Speaker 8: point out is that one recurring theme I heard from
Speaker 8: parents is that there's a misconception. People think that parents
Speaker 8: who have their children victimized, either sexually or by opainning
Speaker 8: drugs or some other way on the Internet, that these
Speaker 8: are irresponsible parents who aren't watching enough or something like that.
Speaker 8: And these parents told me they actually took what they
Speaker 8: thought were reasonable precautions. One parent told me that she
Speaker 8: did periodically look at her son's phone to make sure
Speaker 8: he wasn't involved in pornography or whatever, but she didn't
Speaker 8: know and this was five years ago when he died.
Speaker 8: That they actually used coded language like emoji. Something as
Speaker 8: simple as like a banana can actually be code for
Speaker 8: a drug.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 8: And so that's something that I think a lot of
Speaker 8: parents aren't aware of. And I know the state of
Speaker 8: Ohio actually put out a list of emojis's recent months,
Speaker 8: maybe a year or so ago. Trying to educate parents
Speaker 8: about some of this communication that can happen. And Snapchat
Speaker 8: is one of the platforms that a lot of parents
Speaker 8: have complained about because they Snapchat offers this disappearing messages
Speaker 8: function and that can help hide how some of these
Speaker 8: fears actions that connected with young people even occur.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Snapchat is the one that I think, did
Speaker 1: you mentioned you can send pictures in that they kind
Speaker 1: of disappear?
Speaker 8: Is that the deal, Yes, exactly. And the parents one
Speaker 8: of the parents I interviewed, she is actually the lead
Speaker 8: plaintiff in a lawsuit against Snapping, which is the parent
Speaker 8: company of Snapchat. And there are like about almost seventy
Speaker 8: parents part of that particular lawsuit, with another seventy or
Speaker 8: so waiting in the wings. It's making its way through
Speaker 8: the discovery process now in California. And you know, their
Speaker 8: contention is that that's not a safe product, and you are,
Speaker 8: you know, not offering a safe product.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 8: Snapchat side of this is that they have taken steps to.
Speaker 2: Try to.
Speaker 8: Had off some of these problems then adding security spieces.
Speaker 8: But the parents are saying they don't think it's enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sure doesn't sound to me like it's enough.
Speaker 1: I would not want to be raised young children in
Speaker 1: today's day and age. I mean mine are grown and gone.
Speaker 1: But I think it would be very, very difficult to
Speaker 1: do that. Tell us about the act itself, the SOSA
Speaker 1: or KOSA, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So this Kids Online Safety Act actually started being
Speaker 8: discussed in twenty twenty one, and it's been through various
Speaker 8: revisions since that time. And there are people involved with
Speaker 8: the organizations like Snappat or other social media platform have
Speaker 8: been fighting it. And so it did go through the Senate,
Speaker 8: just sailed through the Senate last year, but they're dalled
Speaker 8: in the House and I couldn't get people to exactly
Speaker 8: say why they thought that was, but they seemed to
Speaker 8: very strongly hint at the these are very influential and
Speaker 8: you know, they have a lot of money platforms, and
Speaker 8: maybe the lot is really strong to protect these platform
Speaker 8: from this addition, all you know, safeguards.
Speaker 3: To be put up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what I mean. They're all pulling
Speaker 1: all the strings to get out of this thing, I guess,
Speaker 1: or they would say to protect their interests. He got
Speaker 1: Evan Spiegel from Snapchat, of course, Zuckerberg Facebook. They actually
Speaker 1: testified on this bill, didn't they, Janis I thought I
Speaker 1: read that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there was some testimony in Congress from the heads
Speaker 8: of those two major platforms. Again, they were, you know,
Speaker 8: coming right out and saying that they pointed out ways
Speaker 8: in which they have tried to add additional safeguards. But
Speaker 8: the things that the parents want are things such as
Speaker 8: age verification and more ability for parents to go into
Speaker 8: the kid's accounts and things like that, and right now
Speaker 8: that's not allowed. The Kids Online Safety Act would contain
Speaker 8: a provision where they would at least figure out a
Speaker 8: way to make this age verification possible with some of
Speaker 8: these platforms. And some of the other things that the
Speaker 8: Kids Online Safety Act would do would be to try
Speaker 8: to eliminate some of the algorithms, which are the computerized
Speaker 8: programs that target content to people. For example, one mother
Speaker 8: I talked to was telling me how her daughter was depressed,
Speaker 8: and so they were would these platforms would farm more
Speaker 8: content to her daughter about being depressed, and you know,
Speaker 8: it actually added to her depression and she ended up
Speaker 8: taking your own life. She became convinced that nobody would
Speaker 8: love her.
Speaker 1: That's just horrible, And you know what, that's not an
Speaker 1: isolated incident. Either. I've done a little research on my
Speaker 1: own on this thing, and teen suicide rates are way up.
Speaker 1: And also bullying too. I think you do talk about
Speaker 1: that in your story. It really facilitates online bullying, which
Speaker 1: really screws kids up.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 8: And also, you know, I was thinking back to you know,
Speaker 8: years and years ago when I was a kid, you
Speaker 8: were a kid.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 8: We also he's had this saying six and stones made
Speaker 8: break the stones. The words will never hurt me. But
Speaker 8: the problem now is that with social media, it's like
Speaker 8: those words are on steroids. They are you know, amplified
Speaker 8: across sometimes thousands or even millions of viewers. And the
Speaker 8: pressure on a kid who has maybe fake nude pictures
Speaker 8: or maybe real nude pictures of himself or herself out
Speaker 8: there floating around, people commenting, people just being you know,
Speaker 8: ruthless and nasty in response to that. It's a heavy
Speaker 8: burden for these kids to bear, and a lot of them, don't,
Speaker 8: you know, end up even telling the parents about this suffering.
Speaker 8: The parents may notice that, you know, their kid isn't
Speaker 8: the same, but the kid doesn't open up, and the
Speaker 8: next thing they know, the kid has killed himself for herself.
Speaker 8: It's just those are some of the stories that I heard.
Speaker 8: There were two hundred and forty five kids who were
Speaker 8: remembered during that program on Capitol Hill on Monday, and
Speaker 8: there were sign after sign with the kid's name and
Speaker 8: what they called their forever age. For example, one kid,
Speaker 8: you know, died at age seventeen, Forever seventeen. It was
Speaker 8: really really sad to see how many mothers, fathers, other
Speaker 8: loved ones were sitting there in the heat, and you know,
Speaker 8: literally their tears were just mixing with the sweat there
Speaker 8: in DC. And you know, they had a little candle
Speaker 8: underneath each picture. And I mean I could have stayed
Speaker 8: there all day and gathered one tragic story after another.
Speaker 8: And like I said, one of the biggest themes that
Speaker 8: became apparent to me is that, you know, these parents
Speaker 8: were telling me how mean other parents are acting like
Speaker 8: you're a bad parent because you know this happened with
Speaker 8: your kid. And as I said, a number of these
Speaker 8: parents told me that they did what most people would
Speaker 8: consider responsible activity for a parent to police their children's
Speaker 8: online activity, and it still wasn't enough.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think some of these kids know
Speaker 1: and I've had cases like this in my law practice.
Speaker 1: These kids don't understand. You put something out there, you
Speaker 1: ain't getting it back. I mean you might think you
Speaker 1: got it, but you don't. I mean, it's once it's
Speaker 1: out there in the in the compewter world if you will,
Speaker 1: or online, it stays there. You're not going to get
Speaker 1: it back. And I don't know. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: mean to sound like an old fogy or anything, but
Speaker 1: I think two thousand years from now, an anthropologists are
Speaker 1: looking at this particular time in civilization. I think they're
Speaker 1: going to say, you know what, they weren't doing too
Speaker 1: bad until social media came along. I get it, there
Speaker 1: are advantages, but man, I think the disadvantages outweigh the
Speaker 1: advantages quite a bit, especially when you're talking about kids.
Speaker 8: Yeah, now, under this act, if it does get past,
Speaker 8: they would put social media platforms under enforcement of the
Speaker 8: Federal Trade Commission, which then would be empowered to penalize violation.
Speaker 8: And so that's another component. You need an enforcement section.
Speaker 8: You can't just say this is what you have to do.
Speaker 8: You have to have some enforcement of those rules. And
Speaker 8: so that would be how that mechanism would work there.
Speaker 8: So again, it was just it was extremely emotional. You
Speaker 8: could just feel the emotion in the air among all
Speaker 8: of these parents who had lost their children. They hadn't
Speaker 8: had a couple of young people. I didn't even get
Speaker 8: to get into this because I ran out of room,
Speaker 8: But one young lady got up and spoke about how
Speaker 8: she thought she was fat and she kept seeing then
Speaker 8: she would be searching for content about losing weight, and
Speaker 8: based on the quote unquote advice and images that she
Speaker 8: would see on her social media, she got down to
Speaker 8: the point where she almost died because she was hardly
Speaker 8: eating anything for an extended period of time. It had
Speaker 8: become extremely amaziated and literally almost died because of this.
Speaker 8: And you know the problem is that, you know, when
Speaker 8: you get to be older, a lot of times hopefully
Speaker 8: you have a little more you know, discernment, life experience
Speaker 8: that you can you know, evaluate the content or wisely,
Speaker 8: maybe talk to somebody if you're really having problems. But
Speaker 8: you know, a as most of us hopefully are aware
Speaker 8: by now, there have been many studies that show that
Speaker 8: young people's brains are not fully developed until sometime in
Speaker 8: their twenties a little bit later for boys and for girls,
Speaker 8: and so you know, it's kind of like actually asking
Speaker 8: a computer to perform a function that it's not programmed. Right,
Speaker 8: when you ask these kids to do more evaluation, it's
Speaker 8: a process of learning and their brains developing in a
Speaker 8: way that they're able to do that. They're just not
Speaker 8: equipped to do the evaluation in their minds of the
Speaker 8: content that they're receiving. And that's part of the problem
Speaker 8: here that you know, these parents contend that the social
Speaker 8: media platforms are to consider the kids and really actually
Speaker 8: all of us to be the product that they're marketing
Speaker 8: to whomever, whether it's a diet pill provider or some
Speaker 8: illicit drug dealer who is trolling hashtag to here, I
Speaker 8: got the drug for you. So yeah, it's a really
Speaker 8: gut wrenching a problem after you start to dig into
Speaker 8: it and you see the toll that it's taken. And
Speaker 8: these parents also reminded me that, you know, the two
Speaker 8: hundred and forty five kids who are on these posters
Speaker 8: that were just set up in row after row on
Speaker 8: Capitol Hill, that's just quote unquote the tip of the
Speaker 8: icebraph because those are just the ones willing to go public.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I did a little research on my own,
Speaker 1: and there is an outfit. It's the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
Speaker 1: They advocate I guess, for these kind of things online,
Speaker 1: and one of the things that they're not happy about
Speaker 1: is relatively innocuous part of it. Not inocuous, it's important,
Speaker 1: but age verification. They don't want to have age verification.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm reading right from one of their
Speaker 1: papers here, all age verification systems burden the right of
Speaker 1: adults to read, get information, and speak and browse online anonymously.
Speaker 1: They're not talking about adults, they're talking about kids. And
Speaker 1: it's going to be a battle, I think because of
Speaker 1: First Amendment issues, and it'll ultimately end up in court.
Speaker 1: But at least it's a good first step. I think.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 8: That Electronic Frontier Foundation is one of the organizations that
Speaker 8: opposed the bill on constitutional grounds. But it was interesting
Speaker 8: to see that there was there's bipartisan support at least
Speaker 8: in the Senate for this bill. I got to hear
Speaker 8: from Democrat and Republican senators speaking in favor of the
Speaker 8: bill at this rally on Capitol Hill, and one of them,
Speaker 8: Nick Blomantall from Connecticut, said, you know, this bill doesn't
Speaker 8: violate the First Amendment. He said, quote, it's not censorship.
Speaker 8: It's not blocking people for communicating with each other or
Speaker 8: coming together as a community. It's about saving lives from
Speaker 8: that toxic content, saving kids lives in a moment in
Speaker 8: their lives when they are vulnerable. And I use that
Speaker 8: quote from him and my story because it does seem
Speaker 8: to encapsulate a lot of the essence of, you know,
Speaker 8: a response to that opposition that you know, it doesn't
Speaker 8: stop you from communicating, but what it does is stop
Speaker 8: the push of some of the data and gives users,
Speaker 8: being parents and minors more control over the stuff that
Speaker 8: gets pushed and said to them.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I'll tell you what. It's a good first step.
Speaker 1: If nothing else, Hey, Janis, really appreciate you calling in
Speaker 1: and talking about this very important issue. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: you'll stay on it and let me know if anything
Speaker 1: else happens on it.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Okay, Janis, thank you? All right? That was Janie Heisel
Speaker 1: of the Epoch Times. And if you have not checked
Speaker 1: out the Epoch Times, you should uh these stories that
Speaker 1: she does and the other reporters journalists on the Epoch Times.
Speaker 1: They're always detailed, you know, it's just not a drive
Speaker 1: by kind of look at things. Really really good reporting
Speaker 1: and uh it's a very good publication Epoch Times. Hey,
Speaker 1: we got to take a break, but we'll be back.
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willie seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 9: I thought he was coming out asking me what would
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Speaker 9: What would Harry say about that? And so I gotta
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Speaker 9: actually asking that at all, but I just went like,
Speaker 9: it was great to.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you said for the Reds Fest.
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Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Man, that that's that, uh time here since then?
Speaker 3: It is it is.
Speaker 1: I know you just kind of had a chance to
Speaker 1: take a look at it. But your thoughts on the
Speaker 1: Bengals in county coming to terms on their lease.
Speaker 10: It's gotta be somewhat of a win for the county
Speaker 10: right where, Yeah, the least, So that's I think that's
Speaker 10: gonna help use there's so much bad blood going back
Speaker 10: twenty five, twenty eight years ago.
Speaker 1: Whatever it was really, I mean there's still be still
Speaker 1: people that bring that up.
Speaker 10: You know how we got how the taxpayer got screwed.
Speaker 10: So oh well, knowing all the details, looks like that'll be.
Speaker 1: A better thing.
Speaker 10: Didn't seem anything too revolutionary. No, it's just it's essentially,
Speaker 10: you know, gonna be We're gonna be the same place
Speaker 10: here ten eleven years.
Speaker 1: From It sounds like, yeah, yeah, the Bengals will receive
Speaker 1: ninety parking revenue with the county getting the rest.
Speaker 10: That's got to be a lot of That's gotta be
Speaker 10: a lot of money because there's a parking spotster. I mean,
Speaker 10: you're paying twenty five bucks or more right to park,
Speaker 10: so I ain't bad. Some big good chunk of change there.
Speaker 1: Hey, we were talking off the air about what happened
Speaker 1: in New York City yesterday with this mom Donnie Dude,
Speaker 1: I guess he's going to be the Democrat candidate for mayor.
Speaker 1: He's a socialist, he's an admitted socialist. A lot of
Speaker 1: people think he's just a flat out communist. I'm one
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 10: Yeah, what the hell is happening? Apparently things have not
Speaker 10: been painful enough for the people of New York City.
Speaker 10: Apparently they got to get worse before they get better.
Speaker 10: I can't understand it, you know. And he's to the
Speaker 10: left of of of of Cuomo, Yeah, which is that
Speaker 10: was pretty hard to do OOC. Yeah, to the left
Speaker 10: of AOC. Again, you get what you vote for. And
Speaker 10: if this is what people want, I don't know. I
Speaker 10: think there's a lot of you know, the influx of
Speaker 10: a lot of people, you know, non English speaking, uh,
Speaker 10: you know, foreigners that don't necessarily want to assimilate into
Speaker 10: American culture, and so you got to, you know, so
Speaker 10: they whatever this guy is spouting off seems appealing.
Speaker 1: It's impossible. It will never work. And that's the thing
Speaker 1: about idealism is like it's it if people try it
Speaker 1: over and.
Speaker 10: Over and over.
Speaker 1: Now, this time it will work. This time, we'll figure out.
Speaker 10: But never in history, name a name a communist, socialist
Speaker 10: regime that never that that has work's worked out, and
Speaker 10: people have had jobs, and people have prospered, and there's
Speaker 10: been you know, great things that it hasn't happened.
Speaker 1: What a great example what socialism has done. Communism is
Speaker 1: done for them, you know, I mean it's a perfect example.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, you know a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you want to do like city run grocery stores?
Speaker 10: So it's impossible, I I that's the last thing you want,
Speaker 10: is that the government controlling how much can be something
Speaker 10: can be charged for in a grocery store.
Speaker 1: Something tells me if people like you and I went
Speaker 1: in and tried to get free groceries, we wouldn't get it.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't get it. Yeah, it won't happen. There's probably
Speaker 1: an income limit or something. But it's weird.
Speaker 10: It's like like capitalism creates, like creates great things in
Speaker 10: a great culture, but it's like along the way people
Speaker 10: lose sight of how they got there, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 10: we should we should change things, we should try it
Speaker 10: this way. And you know, things are a little bit
Speaker 10: uneven yep, and and things are are made better. And
Speaker 10: it's like instead of you know, fighting to hold on
Speaker 10: to the things that have made their lives better, no,
Speaker 10: let's try something else, try something different, But over and
Speaker 10: over and over makes our lives worse.
Speaker 1: I can't understand. And that's exactly the deal with socialism.
Speaker 1: They just don't learn, you know.
Speaker 10: Again, I think it's like it's people go, all right,
Speaker 10: well it should work like it should work this time,
Speaker 10: this time it will And I got the idea of
Speaker 10: that this is how it'll work this time, but it
Speaker 10: never ever ever does so until then, I feel sorry
Speaker 10: for a lot of people of New York City.
Speaker 1: But it's it's got to get worse before it gets better.
Speaker 1: I know two governors that are happy probably about it,
Speaker 1: and that's a governor Florida, governor in Texas, because people
Speaker 1: are going to vote with their feet and get the
Speaker 1: hell out of there.
Speaker 10: So many have already, as long as the people when
Speaker 10: they move out, they they they leave their you know,
Speaker 10: the politics there. Sometimes yes, I got started a lot
Speaker 10: of friends in Nashville and they say, there's so many
Speaker 10: people from California coming to escape that what's going on
Speaker 10: out there. But sometimes they're bringing their their their politics
Speaker 10: with them. And said, wait a minute, you came here
Speaker 10: because you didn't like the situation there, and now you're
Speaker 10: trying to create the same thing.
Speaker 1: Keep that at home, you know, keep it over there.
Speaker 1: You know the guy that apparently I think answered Republican
Speaker 1: nod is Curtis Sleewak. I don't know if you know
Speaker 1: who he is.
Speaker 3: He don't.
Speaker 1: He's the dude that started the Guardian Angels. Really good guy,
Speaker 1: very you know, police friendly and police oriented. He runs
Speaker 1: some kind of foundation. Now, of course, a Republican running
Speaker 1: in New York City, you can probably forget it. But
Speaker 1: I don't know the numbers are for me.
Speaker 10: But Trump did much better in New York than anybody
Speaker 10: has done in a long, long, long time. So maybe
Speaker 10: maybe some of the opinion has shifted over and maybe
Speaker 10: people change their minds.
Speaker 1: But okay, I gotta show you this Rocky Fox News poll, Biden,
Speaker 1: White House, the question is honest about mental fitness? Yes,
Speaker 1: twenty nine percent, No, sixty eight percent, and a good
Speaker 1: number of those are Democrats. It might be a majority
Speaker 1: of Democrats too. And the House, through Comber his committee,
Speaker 1: the Oversight Committee, they're starting to hammer down on that too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's important, you know, you get people say I
Speaker 1: let it go, let it go. That's there's no way
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 10: I mean, if you let it go, then then there's
Speaker 10: your You're saying it's succeptible to happen again, which of
Speaker 10: course is not. Yeah, we had a leader that doesn't
Speaker 10: it wasn't really in charge that cries out for a
Speaker 10: bipartian And to me, the most shameful part about it is,
Speaker 10: I mean you I most people could take one look
Speaker 10: at him over the last three four years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 10: it's more than just you know, becoming elderly. There's something
Speaker 10: much going on. If you're being honest with yourself and
Speaker 10: know the media for a long time, No, he's not,
Speaker 10: he's fit, he's fit, and then then he's not. It's
Speaker 10: it's undoubtedly proven he's not. And then people write books
Speaker 10: and say, oh, see this is what was going on. Well,
Speaker 10: you knew the whole time. You were trying to convince
Speaker 10: me it wasn't. But in your heart of hearts, you
Speaker 10: knew it was. I had to hold my nose. I
Speaker 10: bought both of the books.
Speaker 1: Didn't really want to enrich the authors, but I just
Speaker 1: couldn't help my showing of Jake Tapper's uh yeah, vacation home.
Speaker 1: Where were you, Jakie? Ye know at the time, it's
Speaker 1: just such a and what's what's your name? The former
Speaker 1: Press secretary Jean Pierre. Yeah, she's doing that too.
Speaker 10: It's cash in time. I guess that's the Green Letters
Speaker 10: of Salvation. It's undefeated. It is absolutely undefeated. You know,
Speaker 10: the one I blame for a lot of things is
Speaker 10: doctor Jill.
Speaker 1: You know, she's the one, and I've read that that's
Speaker 1: in the books new along with a couple of other people,
Speaker 1: but mainly her pushing him to run. I mean, can
Speaker 1: you imagine that guy Rocky would be if he would
Speaker 1: ran and won President of the United States until the
Speaker 1: year twenty twenty nine. I mean, you can barely function that, right.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it is a response. You think if she, you know,
Speaker 10: truly loved him, she say, look, this is not what's
Speaker 10: what's best for you. Now, maybe it's best for Jill.
Speaker 10: And she still gets the you know, the recognition and
Speaker 10: the cocktail parties and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yep, right, if you're the first lady, that's what she's into. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: And that's sad, it really is.
Speaker 10: I would hope, uh, one of these days, maybe soon,
Speaker 10: when I'm not with it there, my wife says, you want, honey,
Speaker 10: let's maybe you shouldn't do that anymore.
Speaker 1: Let's hope you hope they'd step up to the front
Speaker 1: and do that. I mean, I don't know. And can
Speaker 1: you imagine Joe Biden pulling off what Trump pulled off
Speaker 1: last week with the rampan No, no, you know what, Rocky.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's military and it's serious, and you know,
Speaker 1: obviously people could get hurt. But that was a thing
Speaker 1: of beauty, I mean absolute beauty. To watch things like
Speaker 1: that that. It's just so in all of how great
Speaker 1: and amazing our military is to put on a mission. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're what to b two bombers fly forty four hours straight.
Speaker 1: They refuel and air multiple times, fly over, I ran undetected,
Speaker 1: drop a payload, fly out undetected. It's absolutely amazing that
Speaker 1: are we have people in our country that can develop
Speaker 1: things like that and orchestrate things like that. It's great.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Hey, we're out of time, but appreciate you chatting.
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right. I want to thank my great producer,
Speaker 1: Big Dave Keaton. Tomorrow, Dan Carroll, he will be here
Speaker 1: in Willie's seat and I'll be back Saturday morning for
Speaker 1: Saturday Midday. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW