Speaker 1: Welcome to episode five fifty three of five and five.
Speaker 1: It is Thursday, June eleventh. I am your host, Craig Folkstein,
Speaker 1: joined as usual by Patrick Dubuke and Jeffrey Patron Nostro.
Speaker 1: It is June eleventh, which means it's the start of
Speaker 1: the World Cup. We've just found out Patrick has no
Speaker 1: plans to partake. Jeffrey I subside. I have plans to partake.
Speaker 1: Just I chan's my will through my social media bids.
Speaker 2: I take the kid to McDonald's on Tuesday because or
Speaker 2: not time to do anything else between when her camp
Speaker 2: ended and when her dance class began, and they are
Speaker 2: offering a special world they do that. They have commemorative cups,
Speaker 2: so I was a sucker and got the commemorative cup meal.
Speaker 2: So I am drinking my ice coffee, my cold crew
Speaker 2: out of my Alphonse Davis cup. Yeah sure, I more
Speaker 2: water cups whatever?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Are are you? Are you planning your life around
Speaker 1: the obviously.
Speaker 2: So yes, I did so. Last time I did this,
Speaker 2: I had a two year old. Now I have a
Speaker 2: six year old. In the summer. It does make things
Speaker 2: more difficult too, I actually because it's in the US,
Speaker 2: Mexico and Canada. It's actually like at mostly normal times,
Speaker 2: which is also like more difficult, which is worse.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think we brought that up last last
Speaker 1: pot briefly, but yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Is now being on the being this time zone as
Speaker 2: in this time zone for the last one who's in
Speaker 2: the button the winner. But does help with some of it,
Speaker 2: like I can do like when they're on the West Coast,
Speaker 2: like the game started like seven or eight here, and
Speaker 2: she's usually in the process of going to bed or
Speaker 2: in bed. It's a very long process sometimes, but so
Speaker 2: I can sit down and watch, like it won't be
Speaker 2: I will not be able to watch like every game.
Speaker 2: But also I'm forty four years old, like there's only
Speaker 2: so much you can do. And also, you know, the
Speaker 2: vibes of it completely suck.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know that. Yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I don't want to come off as defending one way
Speaker 1: or the other. Yeah, but the vibes of the Cutter
Speaker 1: World Cup were not exactly sure.
Speaker 2: And like once the games start and you get into it,
Speaker 2: like one of the uh breweries here is showing all
Speaker 2: the games. I'll probably go there for a game or two,
Speaker 2: like it'll be fine.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the vibes are off everywhere, right sports?
Speaker 1: Well, so I yeah, I would. I would recommend people Brian.
Speaker 2: Madison, Square Garden. They're fine there. They were off for
Speaker 2: a game, they were half a game then, yeah exactly,
Speaker 2: well yeah, yeah, I will say that like Boutang doing
Speaker 2: the halftime that is coming back. Yeah, a ViBe's stage
Speaker 2: vibe shift. Yeah yeah, they burned some stage in the arena.
Speaker 2: Maybe some other things in the arena.
Speaker 3: The stage covered some of those up.
Speaker 1: I would I would recommend anyone, uh maybe even Patrick
Speaker 1: who doesn't care about this at all, read Brian Phillips
Speaker 1: Ringer article. It's true they do still run articles over
Speaker 1: at the Ringer. Yes, Brian Phillips is I don't know
Speaker 1: who I would love to write like if I could
Speaker 1: when when I grow up. Just an incredible, incredible writer
Speaker 1: and had a really good article that encompasses a lot
Speaker 1: of the the vibe stuff. And however eating is bad,
Speaker 1: but also the World Cup can still be good but
Speaker 1: maybe and how it's complicated. Yeah, it's definitely.
Speaker 3: Worth a read.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't have anything else banter wise,
Speaker 1: I don't know, mean last spot in this one.
Speaker 3: I don't watched a movie gradually I watched Before Sunrise.
Speaker 3: Mostly what I think is that there ought to be
Speaker 3: like there, we need more. One of the things that
Speaker 3: has sadly gone from this generation that we had, although
Speaker 3: we didn't have properly, was the idea of.
Speaker 1: The the uh what do.
Speaker 4: You call them?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Public service announcements?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: We need we need better public serve it's announcements for
Speaker 3: the for the decentralized internet age. We need wikipedias that
Speaker 3: are about things that we just go, hey, man, at
Speaker 3: some point you should just kind of spend an hour
Speaker 3: and look all this stuff up, right, And and one
Speaker 3: of those things is they should have a guide to
Speaker 3: when to consume media, be like, hey, if you want
Speaker 3: to enjoy this thing, this is the target age range.
Speaker 2: You should probably be sharing for it, right.
Speaker 3: Because having seen Dead Poets Society recently and being like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I whiffed on that one, Like you need
Speaker 3: to be an exactly school, a English class, yes exactly.
Speaker 1: Even then it's you know, questionable. But but like Before
Speaker 1: Sunrise is a movie you need to see at.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three, three after.
Speaker 3: You have broken up with your first significant girlfriend, college girlfriend,
Speaker 3: and boyfriend and then had had enough time to recover
Speaker 3: from that before you start the night. Like there's a
Speaker 3: very specific window when to watch this film, and I
Speaker 3: did not. I missed it by about half of my life.
Speaker 3: So I watched a film that I politely said, Okay,
Speaker 3: have you.
Speaker 2: Watch five hundred Days of Summer yet? Patrick?
Speaker 1: I have not watched the Summer I don't think I
Speaker 1: want to get out of that one. Ye.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's these things where like it's fine
Speaker 3: that the movies exist, and if I you know, I
Speaker 3: have nothing answer them because I'm the one who failed it.
Speaker 3: I didn't show up. There was there was an exist.
Speaker 2: Just watched the third one that's probably more targeted to
Speaker 2: your age group.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it probably is. You know, I have to study
Speaker 3: up after watched the second one first, I'm not going.
Speaker 2: To maybe now you watch.
Speaker 1: I think for some people it accesses these times of
Speaker 1: their lives and allows them to I don't want to
Speaker 1: say it transports them necessarily, right, Yeah, I know. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I connect personally to riding the rails
Speaker 1: in Europe, you know, no. But but you're saying, like
Speaker 1: there's this very specific time and age that this makes
Speaker 1: sense or certain movies makes sense. But like I think
Speaker 1: some people have the capacity potentially two to say like, oh, look,
Speaker 1: that's not me now, but I remember, like it it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was not me then, OK. But if it
Speaker 1: wasn't you then then I don't know that watching it
Speaker 1: then would have helped you.
Speaker 3: Well maybe maybe if I'd watched it before it was me,
Speaker 3: then I could have been there.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking more from an educational standpoint and being like, hey,
Speaker 3: be on the lookout for situations I.
Speaker 1: Can watch any time. Yeah, okay, Like kind of.
Speaker 2: Like one of my favorite bands is Los Campusinos, and
Speaker 2: I've always felt like they're like five years younger than me,
Speaker 2: and I've always felt like their music was like five
Speaker 2: years I've always enjoyed it. But I'm like, I like,
Speaker 2: I I connect, Like I'm just like a little bit.
Speaker 2: There's a line on the on the last album that
Speaker 2: no children, it in no profession, walking dead at thirty seven,
Speaker 2: Like that's kind of how I fholed at thirty seven,
Speaker 2: but now, like you not now not now I'm forty
Speaker 2: two and like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, shall we get into the show.
Speaker 1: We can get in the show. Let's get into the show.
Speaker 1: Our first segment, don't call it a comeback. We had
Speaker 1: a few that a few in the last few days. Uh, yesterday,
Speaker 1: I get well, yeah, two of them yesterday won the
Speaker 1: day before, right, so yesterday we'll start in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was in San Francisco. Yeah it was yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Nationals were up nine to one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There's a lot of I don't know about a
Speaker 2: lot of scuttle butt in the group chat, but like, oh,
Speaker 2: the Nationals, Like, man, the Nationals going to Nationally is
Speaker 2: gonna make the playoffs. Nationals are pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had, I had We're not We're not going
Speaker 1: to do this on this podcast. But I had suggested
Speaker 1: to Patrick last night that a potential topic was like
Speaker 1: when do you when when do you start to believe? Yeah,
Speaker 1: in in a few teams, I had listed U Saint Louis,
Speaker 1: I listed the White Sox who were going to.
Speaker 2: I believe more in the White Sox give them the
Speaker 2: division they're.
Speaker 1: In, right, the White Sox are in first place.
Speaker 2: And they are in that in that division.
Speaker 1: Yes, uh, and the Nationals were one of them. I
Speaker 1: think you can extend it. You could talk about the Pirates,
Speaker 1: which we'll talk about. The Nationals are thirty five and
Speaker 1: thirty four even with this low so they were up
Speaker 1: nine to one. They lost eleven to ten. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like this game on.
Speaker 2: That does kind of clue you into the issues with
Speaker 2: the Nashvills.
Speaker 1: Yes, I had this game on. I went to do bedtime. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I came back downstairs because I had just left the
Speaker 1: TV on and it was literally the game had just
Speaker 1: ended and it was eleven to ten, and I said,
Speaker 1: I literally just said out loud, what the.
Speaker 2: Fuck happened my bedtime? Uh here started right around halftime
Speaker 2: of the nixt game, and it was yeah, and then
Speaker 2: I checked, Well, like what I did is I went
Speaker 2: to I don't know if I went to the FRALI
Speaker 2: your kids discorded the other disc, but I would know
Speaker 2: I went to the frall your kids discord. People are
Speaker 2: like freaking out, like are they going to do it?
Speaker 2: I'm like, they can't. This is having me several times
Speaker 2: has me in the Cavs game, I would also say this,
Speaker 2: I'm like, do I have to go to ESPN and check.
Speaker 1: I had turned it off? Yea, we we it had.
Speaker 1: It was a twenty seven point.
Speaker 2: You know, it's fine. They were playing like absolute dog
Speaker 2: shit like there.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm not gonna make my wife
Speaker 1: watch it. I mean, she'll watch basketball, she likes basketball.
Speaker 1: But like I was like, I'm not, like I don't
Speaker 1: need to spend the time. Like I basically wasn't watching.
Speaker 3: I was looking for somebody murder right now.
Speaker 1: And that is that is what we did. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say this. Let me put in a plug for
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Speaker 1: It hits both notes very well.
Speaker 2: I feel like most of the Welsh mystery procedures so
Speaker 2: usually just like super dark. So that might be a
Speaker 2: nice change of face.
Speaker 1: No, it's nice. It's very it's like you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's very well done.
Speaker 2: Like the one that I watched was like Hinterland, which
Speaker 2: is like super.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not I'm not watched.
Speaker 2: It's really good, but it has as a Nordic noir
Speaker 2: kind of feel to it.
Speaker 1: We just finished Vera, which is also intensely dark in
Speaker 1: almost every episode, but very good. So so that's good
Speaker 1: to know. I will also tell you like part of
Speaker 1: my w t F at this game was at this
Speaker 1: being the Nationals Giants game, to be clear, Uh was
Speaker 1: it was too nothing when I left, it was not
Speaker 1: nine to one when I so, then it was eleven ten, and.
Speaker 2: I was like, it could have gone a lot of
Speaker 2: different ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, an entire game happened. Well, I was gone, Uh
Speaker 1: and it all happened in the sixth.
Speaker 3: In in or later, just for one day. Baseball should just
Speaker 3: have all fifteen games playing Vegas without just not tell anybody.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I was shocked when they were playing these
Speaker 1: games in Vegas.
Speaker 2: That was the score of the I wasn't watching it.
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's Athletic Explorers.
Speaker 1: But Harrison game was it? Was it that one?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm?
Speaker 1: Was it the Kyle Harrison start where you have eight
Speaker 1: runs and two winnings.
Speaker 2: Or whatever Kyle Harrison I went to extra? Yeah, that one.
Speaker 2: I'm like, but that could just happen in my Sacramento
Speaker 2: Like it's not like it's it's still a little unusual,
Speaker 2: but like, yeah, then Vegas date, in my eye, we're
Speaker 2: gonna get We're gonna gonna get there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get to Vegas. This so this game
Speaker 1: so what do you do with you said you had
Speaker 1: the group chat people talking like what do you do
Speaker 1: with the Nationals? The Nationals continue to score runs.
Speaker 2: And let the if so, I do want to be
Speaker 2: clear about this, right, Like James Wood and c. J.
Speaker 2: Abrams have been very good this year.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I actually like they will probably both make the Elstar Game,
Speaker 2: right like they've been they should. They are probably two
Speaker 2: of the top I don't know, I haven't looked it
Speaker 2: up recently. Twenty hitters in baseball.
Speaker 1: Right, that's that's really the extent of.
Speaker 2: You're the ops is in the lineup yesterday? Yeah, five
Speaker 2: sixty five five two right, five sixteen, six thirty six,
Speaker 2: seven eighty five. Curtis Meat has been very good, but
Speaker 2: he obviously only plays against lefties.
Speaker 1: Curtis Meat has been very good. And that last one
Speaker 1: you said, look.
Speaker 2: I'm not Yeah, the last one is Kybert Ruiz.
Speaker 1: Is Kybert Ruiz, who has a seven eighty five ops
Speaker 1: as a catcher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very good.
Speaker 1: Because he's as a one nineteen ops plus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they are like Dylan Cruise has not been good,
Speaker 2: Like they don't really have a first baseman. Not seeing
Speaker 2: Nunia as is starting and he's a very good defensive shortstop,
Speaker 2: maybe the best.
Speaker 1: He's starting at second mostly.
Speaker 2: Because Abrams, but he's a very like he might be
Speaker 2: the best defensive second basement. He probably is tim or
Speaker 2: Terrang right, like, but yeah, well yeah cool, yeah sure,
Speaker 2: but he is unlike Bryce Terrang and co. He has
Speaker 2: a five sixteen ops.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can't. He can't hit at all, Like you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't do Davey CONCEPTI in twenty twenty six. Generally
Speaker 2: you can't do David second National.
Speaker 1: Well theoretically the Nationals can. But I guess the question.
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, And I mean.
Speaker 1: Look, daylan Lyle has a seven fifty ops because he's.
Speaker 2: A left fielder, right, that's like fine, that's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's fine. I mean Louis had had a
Speaker 1: bad start to the years up to a seven fifty ops.
Speaker 2: He's also firs second basement in base.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is basically their first basement, which so that's
Speaker 1: just okay, I don't I guess it's clustering mostly it is,
Speaker 1: right like the way they do run, Like they can run.
Speaker 2: They can all run, right, they can all take the
Speaker 2: extra base, they can all be kind of annoying.
Speaker 1: On the baby. Jacob Young did not play in this game,
Speaker 1: so we're we're not talking about him. But he's been okay. Look,
Speaker 1: their defense is they have guys who excel. Right, Abrams
Speaker 1: is not that great lyle is not a good corner outfielder.
Speaker 1: What is generally not a good corner outfielder, right, Meat
Speaker 1: is not really good and they platune me. They've been
Speaker 1: playing Jose ten I think I think who has been
Speaker 1: okay again this year? He kind of goes between okay.
Speaker 2: Like if you told me this was an above a
Speaker 2: defense he's signed, but like not touring the most runs
Speaker 2: in baseball, right, But I mean the other thing with
Speaker 2: this team looking for it, like there there are so
Speaker 2: many black holes, especially the more on the pitching side
Speaker 2: than the hitting side, that if they can just like
Speaker 2: fill those spots with you know, for legitimate force starters.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of relievers. Here's here's the I'm
Speaker 1: not going to tell you, I think this is real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Zach Lttel since the start of May has gone
Speaker 1: six and one with a two two seven the.
Speaker 2: R just in time to trade him to the race
Speaker 2: of the deadline.
Speaker 1: Sure, but it's a two two seven the RA and
Speaker 1: a three four seven fifth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Foster Griffin has been a nice fine for them, right, Like.
Speaker 1: Griffin has been solid as as you would have hoped for,
Speaker 1: right Yeah, And and kid Cavali has been okay, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's very hit or miss, but on average
Speaker 1: a three eight eight e RA on the season, honestly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, they don't and they don't really have the
Speaker 2: thing about this nationals team And when Tiboni took over
Speaker 2: is like they had fired most of the bullets from
Speaker 2: the rebuild already, because the rebuild has been going on
Speaker 2: for half a decade, right, and like doesn't look like
Speaker 2: Brady House is really a major league starter. Dylan Cruz,
Speaker 2: God knows what's going on there, Harlan SuSanA's hurt. Like, look, Abrams,
Speaker 2: They're gonna make a decision on Abrams in the next year.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Like now he looks like he could be a centerpiece
Speaker 2: of the next good national team you have to pay.
Speaker 1: The next national team looks a lot closer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're gonna have to pay him like that
Speaker 2: same with would I mean these guys are going to
Speaker 2: get nine figure contracts and the learners have been willing
Speaker 2: to give those out in the past, but they have
Speaker 2: not in the last decade.
Speaker 3: Essentially, they have to decide are they ready yes for
Speaker 3: this team to be good? Right, That's ultimately what this
Speaker 3: comes down to. They've been enjoying the fruits of their
Speaker 3: lack of labor for a while.
Speaker 2: Now they look like they had a failed rebuilding. Have
Speaker 2: to do it again, and now it's kind of like, okay,
Speaker 2: well and they look they played them Kenzie Gore right, like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: who would make that rotation? And not that he's been
Speaker 2: great in Texas, but if they had another just like Garter, yeah,
Speaker 2: like they would.
Speaker 1: Be Yeah they are. I mean they did just bump
Speaker 1: one of the pieces of that trade up to double
Speaker 1: A in Devin Fitzgerald.
Speaker 2: Yep, and look that Gerald on the mid season fifty
Speaker 2: long list. I know he's gonna make it. But he's
Speaker 2: been one of the breakout guys, very.
Speaker 1: Good at very Wilmington, which is a very hard place
Speaker 1: to hit. And what they just promoted will It's to.
Speaker 2: Willis had a multi homer game too, or to he's
Speaker 2: in Wilmington now, yeah, he just got to and like
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, but will its Is eighteen, right, and
Speaker 2: he's only twenty twenty eight realistically as fast as he's
Speaker 2: moving now.
Speaker 3: So he's the thing with the Nationals, where would you
Speaker 3: guys guess the rotation ranks in the area minus so
Speaker 3: among the thirty teams? Where would you put the Nationals
Speaker 3: rotation given before the season they.
Speaker 1: Start off station? I think think, I mean, like, I
Speaker 1: know Miles Michaelis, Michaelis, Yeah, I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: you're setting me up for it's going to be better
Speaker 1: than it is. But but I'm gonna be honest in
Speaker 1: what I would have thought, which would be like twenty six,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I figured you guys would guess my
Speaker 3: game and go twenty third. It's eighteenth, Like it's even
Speaker 3: higher up than that.
Speaker 1: And it's weird.
Speaker 3: Because like this is almost an article, but i'd have
Speaker 3: to be an article. I'd have to understand or right,
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure I understand it because it's actually
Speaker 3: the terrible guys who are outperforming their peripherals. It's Michael's.
Speaker 3: Michaelis has a one oh five ramitis, which is not good,
Speaker 3: but it's not five point nine ers.
Speaker 1: Also, he's he's appeared in more games in relief than
Speaker 1: as a starter at this point, which.
Speaker 2: Yes, and now you think as a bulk guy.
Speaker 3: Now, Mitchell Parker, after being kind of the worst pitcher
Speaker 3: in baseball last year, is back to around average, even though.
Speaker 1: Amer he is a five that I'm on e ra
Speaker 1: Peri exactly, Michael.
Speaker 3: Right, and they're both they've both been terrible, but like
Speaker 3: peripherally and they have identical whips. I love this one
Speaker 3: point three four four. Yeah, but they're not walking guys,
Speaker 3: and they're they're giving up all home runs. Like I'm
Speaker 3: wondering if those home runs are cheap, And that's the.
Speaker 2: Problem because I don't think any horn gives that purchase.
Speaker 1: You would think.
Speaker 3: But Parker's got like a three and a half strikeout
Speaker 3: to walk ratio that would do the job if you
Speaker 3: weren't giving.
Speaker 1: Up the home runs.
Speaker 3: He's also they're both giving up almost ten hits.
Speaker 2: For nine, you know, Brad Lord for like a three
Speaker 2: and a half win season. I almost trying to like
Speaker 2: do a Brad Lord for the All Star Game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who And also they like again you know, seven
Speaker 3: and seven point three strikeouts for nine, two point five
Speaker 3: walks for nine, Like it's not it's not good it's
Speaker 3: not interesting.
Speaker 2: It's not interesting, but it's working the meat and Eduardo
Speaker 2: Rodriguez season.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this game, okay, well so this game, I
Speaker 1: mean they got good Foster Griffin. You got six innings
Speaker 1: of one wrung ball from Foster Griffin, and then then
Speaker 1: the bullpen came in. I mean, so this is one
Speaker 1: part that we haven't that you mentioned, Brad Lord, but
Speaker 1: like Paxton, Paxton, Schultz came in missing the most bats
Speaker 1: in this bullpen basically at just under ten strikeouts per
Speaker 1: nine and absolutely implodes five runs in an inning or
Speaker 1: the handover Balta has been good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he gives up five runs. They still
Speaker 2: have a significant lead.
Speaker 1: They still have a significant lead. Gus Varland comes in
Speaker 1: and gets nothing done, and then Mitchell Parker came in,
Speaker 1: comes in and also gets something, and he gives up
Speaker 1: a grand slam, a walk off grand slam to Bryce Eldridge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bryce Eli, they should play Bryce Eldridge.
Speaker 1: Moore is up to an i know, six ops after
Speaker 1: this game. Matt Chapman four for five, up to a
Speaker 1: seven fifty.
Speaker 2: Or four hundred. Yet, because that's a.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I mean that the Giants offense. The Giants offense has
Speaker 2: not been bad.
Speaker 1: He's four o nine.
Speaker 2: There you go, like Arias has been good.
Speaker 1: Eight hundred ops, Casey Schmidt has an eight twenty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Junghan Lee has been absolutely on fire in like three
Speaker 1: he is He's hitting three thirty eight and it's been
Speaker 1: like five hundred over his last However, many like it's
Speaker 1: been a a higher number of games than you think
Speaker 1: when you see someone hitting five hundred.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, obviously a Doamin's endeavors still haven't been
Speaker 2: good on the face of it, and Rias is a
Speaker 2: free agent. Like I don't know what exactly the Giants
Speaker 2: are going to do, and like they they've done this
Speaker 2: and there's still like fifteen hundred, right.
Speaker 1: The Giants started Victor Barracodo in left field and Jonah
Speaker 1: Cox in center ye in this game.
Speaker 2: Those are both baseball players.
Speaker 1: I'm really ultimately don't know. I texted someone and I said,
Speaker 1: who is playing center field for the Giants? I don't
Speaker 1: know who that is. I saw the last name and
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know. I don't know who that
Speaker 1: would be. And like I'm not trying to be a dick,
Speaker 1: but I generally have like I'm like, oh, okay, like
Speaker 1: this guy, right, like the guy.
Speaker 3: The Ross Stripling trade, you know it was he yes, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: came over from the Ross Stripling Jonah Cox not toomiliar
Speaker 3: familiar with his work. That was being I'm not.
Speaker 1: Trying to be like Charles Barkley in regards to Christian
Speaker 1: Wood or Shack. Sorry, Shack, I'm not familiar. I wasn't
Speaker 1: familiar with your game.
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley had some different things to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Giants are shockingly Nationals, Like, like, the Giants
Speaker 3: are essentially what we thought the Nationals would be, except
Speaker 3: they tried really hard. The Nationals have not been trying
Speaker 3: very hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of right around five hundred, right, like
Speaker 2: Giants are always right around five hundred.
Speaker 3: Yeahs became every other Giants team, and the Giants have
Speaker 3: suddenly become.
Speaker 2: Every which is probably a large part of this too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, like Landed Groupe has been also as a
Speaker 2: four r A, but it's also been like their second
Speaker 2: best picture. And then I'm not actually entirely sure who's
Speaker 2: the rest of their rotation right now?
Speaker 3: Well, you know.
Speaker 1: The Giants, Robby Ray is not going Ray. Yeah, Robby
Speaker 1: Ray started this game. Adrian Hauser is.
Speaker 2: Is Oh yeah, Adrian, how'd they signed? They give him
Speaker 2: a multi year deal, didn't they?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: They?
Speaker 3: And then Tyler mully is injured. McDonald's actually been okay.
Speaker 1: E a is over four but like the you.
Speaker 2: Know, stretch game other than right, elders should play more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's been on a he's been on a
Speaker 1: hot streak along with with Lee and the Giants. This
Speaker 1: wind pulls the Giants up to thirteen games under five hundred.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Pirates had a comeback of their own. Ye. They
Speaker 1: were down six to two, they were up to nothing,
Speaker 1: they were down six to two. Shotani on the mound
Speaker 1: and they this this is a team that I I
Speaker 1: do believe can hit. Yep. Well, I don't buy the
Speaker 1: lineup like a ton, but this is a team that
Speaker 1: they can score enough runs?
Speaker 3: Right but not Nationals good could use those phrases when
Speaker 3: you can.
Speaker 1: Otani went six and two thirds, allowed four runs, three earned.
Speaker 1: This This one was on Kyle Hurt. Yes, Kyle Hurt
Speaker 1: gave up a run in his debut, then didn't give
Speaker 1: up a run for an extended period of time, and
Speaker 1: has now given up a lot of runs, A lot
Speaker 1: of runs, not just this his last downing and I
Speaker 1: think the one before that as well. Uh. And so
Speaker 1: that the Pirates put up eight runs across the seventh
Speaker 1: and eighth innings, and of course the h they gave up.
Speaker 1: Otani gave up a home run to Tyler Callahan, and
Speaker 1: then Kyle Hurt gave up a home run to No. Sorry,
Speaker 1: Jack Dryer came in and gave up a home run
Speaker 1: to Tyler Callahan, and of course then Otani hit a
Speaker 1: home run in the top of the ninth would have
Speaker 1: either pulled the g or I guess it would have
Speaker 1: put them ahead because Callahan's home run second homer was
Speaker 1: a two runner and it wasn't enough. Is another team
Speaker 1: with a bullpen that is highly questionable. And I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the Pirates, by the way. The Dodgers have their
Speaker 1: own issues, but bullpen's been okay for most of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's one of those games where I'm sure,
Speaker 2: like I I saw it was six to two and
Speaker 2: then I saw they lost later. Oh that's weird. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But like it's also it doesn't really matter to the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: It doesn't And I think the weirdest part of it
Speaker 1: is just like Kyle hurt. They left him out there
Speaker 1: for way longer than I would have thought.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the state of the Dodgers is like you look
Speaker 3: at that box score and you go, oh, I hope,
Speaker 3: I hope.
Speaker 1: Show didn't give to any of these runs. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: thank god.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, season too.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was not great. His era is now over
Speaker 1: one ye on the season Otani, but the yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean look they also look Brian Reynolds robbed Otani of
Speaker 1: a home run earlier in this game. Uh, you go
Speaker 1: down this lineup as you did with the National Jeffrey,
Speaker 1: It's it's more legitimate, right at least in terms of
Speaker 1: the OPSS. Horowitz eight sixty one, Loo eight forty eight
Speaker 1: and not not out for several out he discovered us.
Speaker 2: First reported and then corrected by five.
Speaker 1: And divesas Reynolds o'hearne eight twenty Yeah, Tyler Callahan fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty nine.
Speaker 2: I say, there's your story. It is like kind of
Speaker 2: a lesser version of the Cubs line up, really, where
Speaker 2: there's just a lot of like there's no guy carrying
Speaker 2: it and also there's shirt triolo. But it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of like twenty to thirty percent better than
Speaker 2: the gaverage hitters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and unfortunately O'Neil Cruz is on the il ye
Speaker 1: with non fractions in.
Speaker 2: His I mean, like if he I don't know what's
Speaker 2: going on with Griffin obviously, but you know, if if
Speaker 2: they get Griffin and Cruise back before the deadline, I
Speaker 2: think they can still make a little run here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again like and maybe Griffin can be that
Speaker 1: guy who can carry them, yeah or whatever, but that's
Speaker 1: also a lot to ask of a a rookie shortstop.
Speaker 1: This is I also don't I think Ryan I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised by Ryan Hurd. I think Brian Reynolds can do this.
Speaker 1: I know he's been pretty bad. This feels a little
Speaker 1: heavy for Spencer Horwitz, who I like, but probably a
Speaker 1: little bit over Blarns. But you can't like poke too
Speaker 1: many holes. You know, Brendan Low can do this, right,
Speaker 1: Like you're saying, you're you're talking about five six bats
Speaker 1: out of the lineup. You know, it's not good that
Speaker 1: they have to play Jake Maydingham. Yeah, no, it's not
Speaker 1: right now or Jared Triolo, as you said.
Speaker 2: They just call up to replace who's I saw the
Speaker 2: name and I'm just like, oh, I did not know.
Speaker 1: Oh what was it? It was.
Speaker 3: A name you've seen before. Let's see, I saw it too.
Speaker 3: So it's their cook? Is it Billy Cook?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 2: It's Billy Cook?
Speaker 1: Ye? Yes, I didn't know he was specifically.
Speaker 2: And again, like obviously they have better starting pitching than that.
Speaker 2: The bullpen is like they both feel like they should
Speaker 2: be better than this and worse than this. So I'm
Speaker 2: not sure they might just be this.
Speaker 1: There are teams. This is a playoff team. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: you say they might just be that, well, they're a
Speaker 1: half came out right now, but like they are right there.
Speaker 2: Right, I just don't I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they have the god they just say again they're
Speaker 2: not gonna do what they need, Like the Cubs are
Speaker 2: going to acquire people at the deadline, the Padres are
Speaker 2: going to acquire people with the dead, like that's what
Speaker 2: they do.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the question.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, like.
Speaker 1: The the thing they need to fix is is arguably
Speaker 1: the easiest thing to fix. It's the bullpen.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: This is this again, like Sodo came in and almost
Speaker 1: blew this game that they had just you know, reclaimed.
Speaker 2: And Santana has lost the job.
Speaker 1: Basically they lost the keen. The scheme start versus the
Speaker 1: Dodgers Skins was great, it was it was an even game,
Speaker 1: and then the bullpen came in and allowed ten runs
Speaker 1: in an inny, Right. I mean, this is something you
Speaker 1: know they really like. Thus far, they've had Evan Sisk
Speaker 1: and that's about it. Gregory Soto has been okay, but
Speaker 1: they should be able to fix that. But the other part,
Speaker 1: I mean, to your point, Chef, like do they have
Speaker 1: the pieces to move even to get and what I
Speaker 1: say impact bullpen guys, I don't even mean the top
Speaker 1: guy on the market. I'm talking about like can they
Speaker 1: get can they pull? It didn't work for for Scott
Speaker 1: Harris last year, but like, can they go get three
Speaker 1: to five guys?
Speaker 2: I think so, yeah, Okay, it.
Speaker 3: Kind of worked from they got Kyle Finnegan out of it, right, But.
Speaker 1: You don't have to know what I'm saying. It didn't
Speaker 1: really stop there.
Speaker 3: Somewhere.
Speaker 1: It didn't stem the bleeding. That's all what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta make sure you don't play the
Speaker 3: worst one of the five. You know, you got to
Speaker 3: figure out who that fifth one is real quick.
Speaker 1: And Lastly, the White Sox had to come back. Braden
Speaker 1: Montgomery called up. Jeff got the call up out. We
Speaker 1: got it before the game.
Speaker 2: He played pretty well to the scouting report too. Strikeouts
Speaker 2: in a home run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had a he had a walk off
Speaker 1: home run on on eighties night. Yes, so it was
Speaker 1: just a very bizarre.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed that very much. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, but it was like, you know, one of the
Speaker 1: more modern type prospects. I feel like in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways getting his walk off moment and they're doing
Speaker 1: like the very yellow big Funah exactly. And I mean
Speaker 1: as a name, first of all, his name is Braiden
Speaker 1: and your eighties graphics and his name's Braiden. Billy Cook.
Speaker 3: Billy Cook was there, Billy Cook?
Speaker 1: Okay, ah, but no he, I mean he he had
Speaker 1: the walk off obviously, but he played playball throughout the game, right,
Speaker 1: he had impacted two for five.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What do we do with the White Sox.
Speaker 2: I don't know yet. I it's funny, because yeah.
Speaker 1: They are they're not only at the time we mentioned
Speaker 1: the top of the division. They're thirty six and thirty one.
Speaker 1: That's not even that's not even that bad yet, right,
Speaker 1: this isn't even a five hundred record.
Speaker 2: They're like they their lineup, they have like I feel
Speaker 2: like we're only a few years removed from like on
Speaker 2: base percentage being too woke for this organization, but like
Speaker 2: they've actually, like you know, they have with Antonaci and
Speaker 2: madrav playing pretty well, Like you have guys on base
Speaker 2: for when they're two thirty hitters hit a home run, right,
Speaker 2: so they're hitting through your homer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's it's Antonachi's almost at three ninety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: obp wise, he's been hit by fifteen pitches whatever worse,
Speaker 1: and he came up. He wasn't even up at the
Speaker 1: start of the year, right, Yeah, major league leading in
Speaker 1: fifteen hit by pitches. Miguel Vargas is just shy of
Speaker 1: three seventy. Yeah, Chase Majroth is at three forty three,
Speaker 1: and I know he's on the IL. But Munataka Murakami's
Speaker 1: at just shy of three to eighty. Yeah. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of guys, you know, And honestly, look, I don't
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting this to hold, but Tristan Peters is
Speaker 1: at three pis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not checked out the hold either, But yeah,
Speaker 2: this is like a very nineteen ninety eight offense, right,
Speaker 2: Like it's uh walks in Homer's the right ballpark to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: And so the thing is like if you're hitting Colson
Speaker 1: Montgomery fourth or fifth, yeah, and some of these guys
Speaker 1: are on when he gets one, it's it's multiple runs, right.
Speaker 2: I mean that is.
Speaker 1: It makes sense in a way. It might not keep happening,
Speaker 1: but it makes sense, right.
Speaker 2: I mean there is like a risk that like if
Speaker 2: these if you're if Colton Montgomery, Murcami and Vargas backslide
Speaker 2: at all on contact all of a sudden, there.
Speaker 1: Sure this is good slot Yeah, And.
Speaker 2: Also like can they do it again next year?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Like are you kind of like do you have to
Speaker 2: push a little a little more than maybe they're comfortable doing.
Speaker 3: Well, especially with the pitching, Like I just don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think they have enough pitching.
Speaker 3: I don't. Having Shane Smith do what happened to Shane
Speaker 3: Smith makes me feel very nervous about Davis Martin, who
Speaker 3: was a different person. Yeah, but Shane Smith, like Shane Smith,
Speaker 3: like we it's like nearing Steve blast territory. Like I
Speaker 3: don't know if he was walking more than a veteran
Speaker 3: inning in the majors and then is walking more than
Speaker 3: five like a career high in the miners too. They
Speaker 3: really need Shane Smith this year, man.
Speaker 2: I mean, unlike the other two teams we talked about,
Speaker 2: they've like they've had a really good bullpen. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean I would have been Sean Dukham, Grant Taylor and
Speaker 2: Brian Hudson. So how much you believe in that?
Speaker 1: Before before we fully leave the lineup, I would note
Speaker 1: Jacob Gonzales, who yes, again nobody really understands in his
Speaker 1: in his thirty one played appearances thus far threeh eight
Speaker 1: four nineteen twenty three. Yeah, the lineup just.
Speaker 2: Ye strike of them, which I do believe, but.
Speaker 1: Sure, but again I guess I'm just saying. Also, by
Speaker 1: the way, they're just eating a dead spot at catcher basically.
Speaker 2: Yes, and whenever wherever they're playing Andrew benintending.
Speaker 1: Right DH, I think mostly Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well I think he's back on the outfield a little
Speaker 2: bit now, but yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like there are areas to improve, and
Speaker 1: like the lineup again, you don't have to believe it continues,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of earned what it's done. Sure, right,
Speaker 1: anyway you can one of the white sex thing Kyle Teelbeck,
Speaker 1: who knows well he got hurt on his rehab. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so it's what I think it's. It's extended out another
Speaker 1: four to six weeks, I want to say, from from
Speaker 1: when it happened. Yeah. Then no, this bullpen has been
Speaker 1: at least the top four have been very good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And like you can say, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I believe Grant Taylor is legit as a reliever. Brian
Speaker 1: Hudson has done this before.
Speaker 2: He's done this before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Sean Newcomb.
Speaker 2: We have d R a superstard superstar is D minus
Speaker 2: right now back, we have.
Speaker 1: To look him up.
Speaker 3: I think he's the only person in the bullpen that
Speaker 3: they actually believes it.
Speaker 2: DRA does like Sean Newcomb, I mean.
Speaker 1: And also, by the way, I no White Sox sayn't
Speaker 1: want to hear this because I know he's been Yeah, Sir,
Speaker 1: Anthony Domingas has been outside of giving up two homers
Speaker 1: per nine has been Okay, Now, that's a huge problem.
Speaker 2: The Jeff Hoffman games he has Yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I guess it is like that, but you
Speaker 1: do end up winning enough with that type of guy,
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily someone you want if you're in the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Do you so? I guess again this goes to do
Speaker 1: you do you? When? Do you buy any of these things?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the Ales Central, But like, I think
Speaker 2: the Guardians are better. Oh, I know the Guardians. They
Speaker 2: did happen to justify the Yankees and get swept, which
Speaker 2: is driving.
Speaker 1: Or worse than the Yankees.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Guardians are better. Now do I
Speaker 2: think there are six teams in the American League better
Speaker 2: than the White Sox right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, maybe you gotta start like Toronto Toronto
Speaker 2: the Rangers, like maybe, but they're also not an insignificant
Speaker 2: amount behind. You know, seventy games into the season.
Speaker 4: I would.
Speaker 1: That the Rangers are currently in possession of the third
Speaker 1: while Card ye a game under five hundred.
Speaker 3: Yes, Shawn Newcomes di A minus is seventy eight as
Speaker 3: opposed to twenty twenty five DRA which was seventy eight.
Speaker 3: He's a rock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, I don't know. And I go back
Speaker 1: to like, do the White Sox want to be good
Speaker 1: this year?
Speaker 2: Like I think they do? Is the thing like they've
Speaker 2: always kind of had, even when they were losing one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty games, kind of like outside beliefs.
Speaker 1: In I know the Pirates want to be good this year. Sure,
Speaker 1: do the Nationals want to be good this year? I
Speaker 1: don't think so.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. But also like it.
Speaker 1: Makes we're an uncomfortable deadline rightony, Yeah, yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be weird seeing the Nationals. Bye, they're not going to buy.
Speaker 1: I mean like they might, they might make a superficial whatever.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: I think they try and trade.
Speaker 3: Could, but I think what they'll do is they'll get it.
Speaker 3: They'll get it back and starter and probably who will
Speaker 3: probably pitch worse than their current starters.
Speaker 2: I yeah, I don't trade.
Speaker 1: I think I think in a lot of ways this
Speaker 1: isn't I feel like I've argued against this in the past,
Speaker 1: but I think in a lot of ways, you you
Speaker 1: kind of have to have the courage of your convictions
Speaker 1: in the bigger picture here and be like, yeah, but no, Well, here's.
Speaker 3: The thing is that the truly brave trade deadline acquisition
Speaker 3: for the Nationals would be just the one that actually
Speaker 3: did make them better in the future. This is when
Speaker 3: you swing and actually get the good player.
Speaker 1: For years and not get them. But who is that. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, like.
Speaker 3: At merse right, I'm gonna use your control for several years.
Speaker 3: If you're if you if you have if you feel
Speaker 3: like you're obligated to trade at the deadline to do something,
Speaker 3: you may as well do something good, right, and that
Speaker 3: it's harder. You were certainly committing more.
Speaker 2: But the Orioles found out where Trepper Rodgers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, I mean they thought they were buying
Speaker 3: low on tread Rogers, and for a while they were,
Speaker 3: and then it turns out that they were buying the
Speaker 3: exact correct price at treppor Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like that, that is an interesting but the
Speaker 1: words we're not in the same position as like the
Speaker 1: nationals making that trade would have been so much more
Speaker 1: understandable even at the time, right of being like sure,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll buy low on this thing because we are
Speaker 1: the position we're low. Yeah, it's been low. I don't know, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: fair enough, Okay, let's go to our seconds segment. Vegas,
Speaker 1: Baby Vegas. It was news to well at least two
Speaker 1: of us, I know, Jeff and I I don't know
Speaker 1: if Patrick was aware that these games were happening in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. It was not until the middle of the
Speaker 1: game when people were like, they're playing on the moon,
Speaker 1: They're playing in Mexic That's true, they do, but they
Speaker 1: do put a little banner right in like the game,
Speaker 1: like on the game on the website, like there's a
Speaker 1: little banner that's like, you know, Mexico City. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is just it was just a game in a different Triple.
Speaker 2: A ballpark in the PCL.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the PCO I the reaction, the reaction to
Speaker 1: the environment was both understandable and also I feel like
Speaker 1: people have just forgotten what every game is like. For
Speaker 1: the A's in their stadium, it's it is different in Vegas.
Speaker 1: It's higher elevation, I get it. Also, Sutter Park is insane. Yeah.
Speaker 2: For Vega, Mega Stadium is big.
Speaker 1: It is right, exactly, it is bigger.
Speaker 2: Than the stadium they are building in Vegas for the
Speaker 2: major league team.
Speaker 3: It is also higher up.
Speaker 1: Now it's not it's not cores, right, but it is
Speaker 1: the the idea of course, where it is both the
Speaker 1: thinner air and high elevation is counteracted not enough by
Speaker 1: a big park. Like this is not a this is
Speaker 1: not a bandbox. In terms of the dimensions, there are
Speaker 1: some ridiculous owners that said, I don't know what else
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a I'm curiously what Nick Kurt says when
Speaker 2: he's playing all his home games here.
Speaker 3: But I mean he will walk so many times, even
Speaker 3: more than that, yeah, even more than Now, that's like
Speaker 3: there will be no reason to pitch a Ni Kurts.
Speaker 1: It might be it's supposed to be a dome, right
Speaker 1: what they're buildings as you think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if they're building a new stadium, this is
Speaker 3: your opportunity. Just make the five hundred foot long stadium.
Speaker 2: They don't have the space to do it. They're jamming. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a problem.
Speaker 3: This would be your situation where you could go, Okay,
Speaker 3: we should make the dimensions how modern baseball needs to
Speaker 3: have to make. I get you can't change your old stadiums.
Speaker 3: You can't create the grass that you need.
Speaker 1: But like, if you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna have baseball to twenty five hundred feet in one
Speaker 3: hundred and five degrees.
Speaker 2: Just they can just make the fence like the Oriole
Speaker 2: stated and then went away.
Speaker 3: But yeah, just give us the babbit. This is the
Speaker 3: one shot you have to give us actual outfield batted
Speaker 3: ball hits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. But then the and they don't want
Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to sell seats five
Speaker 1: hundred feet from from home plate for as much as
Speaker 1: they want to sell. Now are they going to sell?
Speaker 3: Are they going to sell them anyway?
Speaker 1: Well, it's a fair question. Yeah, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know this this that was a very weird get. As
Speaker 1: I said, Kyle Harrison, who's been one of the best
Speaker 1: pitchers in baseball this year, absolutely torched and then it went.
Speaker 1: It went fourteen.
Speaker 2: Innings something like that was a lot of it.
Speaker 1: It was. It was some good weird baseball. I will
Speaker 1: tell you that it was. It took us, It took
Speaker 1: me back and it made me hate Rob Manfred all
Speaker 1: over again. That we don't get enough of these. Yeah,
Speaker 1: throughout the year. But it was some good weird baseball.
Speaker 1: Milwaukee ended up winning. I don't know what else do
Speaker 1: we want to The last the last thing that I
Speaker 1: run down here is the stadium is actually getting built, right.
Speaker 1: I will tell you I went to the Wikipedia. Yeah
Speaker 1: for this this ballpark, Yes, because I the foundation was finished. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's like construction back in February at least. Uh And
Speaker 1: then Talk Sport had an article. They says that they're
Speaker 1: and it referenced to Bob Knight and Go saying that
Speaker 1: they are ahead of schedule. Yeah, so there is a schedule,
Speaker 1: by the way, but they are going they are standing
Speaker 1: by their commitment to the city of Sacramento. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: to play there through twenty twenty eight, I guess, or
Speaker 1: whatever MLB dot com does have.
Speaker 3: And I'm sending a link a construction cam. I can't
Speaker 3: it's soumed out.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is live.
Speaker 3: I think this is a well it's saying eight minutes ago.
Speaker 3: So it's we're getting we're getting random stills from you know,
Speaker 3: X number of minutes at a time.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: There are lots of scaffolds. Yeah, oh yeah, there's there's stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, people are milling what's going on?
Speaker 3: It's going.
Speaker 1: I do like that. I do like they were like,
Speaker 1: we better get a camera on this. No one I'm
Speaker 1: going to believe this. Sh no one is gonna like,
Speaker 1: no one is to believe this.
Speaker 3: I didn't believe it until the picture loaded, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and here's here's the part that I don't
Speaker 1: believe is even looking at the Wikipedia and the related articles,
Speaker 1: it is it is not clear where the financing it's coming.
Speaker 2: From, and they did finance it at some point it is.
Speaker 1: Full Like I guess it's they've done enough to do this.
Speaker 1: I will say I did note that uh. One of
Speaker 1: the notes on the on the article is UH. Or
Speaker 1: the entry I should say is that Ara Mark won
Speaker 1: the bidding for uh, you know, food and whatever at
Speaker 1: the stadium and it's a twenty year deal. And they
Speaker 1: also bought into the team and the stadium, did they? Yeah,
Speaker 1: which I don't I don't know how often that is
Speaker 1: a situation.
Speaker 3: This is how we can afford to pay you in futures.
Speaker 1: So I like, I don't know if that goes to it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So yes, here here's the
Speaker 1: line it says uh. In May twenty twenty five, Aramark
Speaker 1: was awarded a twenty year food and beverage contract which
Speaker 1: included a financial investment in the team and stadium. In
Speaker 1: the stadium, Like, all right, did they I don't know.
Speaker 3: Did they get an Aramark store outside in in you know,
Speaker 3: like it's part of the village, Like there's no village because.
Speaker 1: There's no room for the village in this stadium.
Speaker 3: But they like they need they need the store outside
Speaker 3: for them to get the business off. This is the
Speaker 3: major league model. I don't know what they'd sell at
Speaker 3: the stadium, it's only uniforms or stuff.
Speaker 1: But the Aramark their total outlay is at least one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five million dollars. The one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy five million includes an equity investment into the team
Speaker 1: of at least one hundred million and a CAPEX investment
Speaker 1: commitment of at least seventy five million. So there you go.
Speaker 1: That is the is. I'm gonna say, let's take a
Speaker 1: break and we'll come back with the rest.
Speaker 4: Of the show.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to episode five hundred and fifty three of
Speaker 1: five and ive we're on our third segment. You're tearing
Speaker 1: me apart. Lara. Milwaukee has extended Luis Lara seven years
Speaker 1: and thirty one million dollars are the baseline. It can
Speaker 1: get up to what something in the eighties. Sure, I
Speaker 1: want to say something like that. This is uh, this
Speaker 1: this was interesting. Yeah, and the one they suggested this
Speaker 1: is a topic. Jeff is exasperated already.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not exasperate. Like they did this with
Speaker 2: Cooper Pratt, right, they did they like I am not
Speaker 2: privy to the internal workings the Walkee Brewers Space Operations department,
Speaker 2: but I suspect they are just running these numbers for
Speaker 2: any prospect of note and seeing who will take the deal.
Speaker 2: I believe they have, at least I don't know if
Speaker 2: they've specifically approached like Jesus made or I'm sure that
Speaker 2: they have Pania or Jet Williams or whoever else. Right, But.
Speaker 1: Right that part I don't think is that interesting?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Right? I think so when this happened, my initial reaction
Speaker 1: to several different places were basically, I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do with this. Yeah, this is there's an information asymmetry.
Speaker 2: Yes, especially on this level of prospect, I think, yeah, right,
Speaker 2: the definitely like I we did not. I know Luis
Speaker 2: law is off to a good start this year in
Speaker 2: Triple A. He's close to the major he.
Speaker 1: Is hitting three thirty six three in fifty eight games.
Speaker 2: I do not think he has meaningfully changed Looking at
Speaker 2: the underlying stuff here, I don't think he has meaningfully
Speaker 2: changed his profile. Right, He's close to the majors and
Speaker 2: Pratt was. He is in Triple A obviously, you know,
Speaker 2: I know he's made some top one hundred lists. Now
Speaker 2: it's not really he's on our long list, but he's
Speaker 2: like there's a glut of prospects between one oh two
Speaker 2: and like two seventy five, right or something. I don't
Speaker 2: know how long our long list was coming into the season.
Speaker 2: And there are meaningful differences there. They're just harder to parse, right,
Speaker 2: And like the Brewers should have more information about Luis
Speaker 2: Laura relative to Nelson Rada. Right, it was kind of
Speaker 2: like this time of type of product even you know,
Speaker 2: a j ewing is the good version of this better.
Speaker 1: Version just just to be there's it matches out at
Speaker 1: seventy nine million dollars. There are three team options to
Speaker 1: run it through.
Speaker 2: Mostly what this is, this was plan too, is they
Speaker 2: are leveraging life changing money. Yeah that is, you know,
Speaker 2: not more than a rounding era per year for them
Speaker 2: for their even even their salary expenditures.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he did not make the top ten for us.
Speaker 2: It's a good system.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good system like that, but he didn't
Speaker 3: make the next ten.
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: He's again he's a center fielder that doesn't have he's
Speaker 2: pretty good center paper, he doesn't hit for.
Speaker 1: Power, So, right, so some of the reasons and look,
Speaker 1: this is this is a.
Speaker 2: Good defensive center fielder, and like that's a good defensive shortstop.
Speaker 1: He's a good to very good defensive centerfielder. But if
Speaker 1: you look at what he did in Double A last year,
Speaker 1: two fifty seven, three sixty nine, three forty three. Now,
Speaker 1: the Southern League, as we've discussed, when it's not a
Speaker 1: good place to pratt is a very difficult place to hit.
Speaker 1: In the Fall League, he hit in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: which is a good place to hit. He hit two
Speaker 1: fifty six, three fifty three, sixty in Wisconsin and Hia
Speaker 1: Wisconsin he hit two forty five, three thirty two, two
Speaker 1: three twenty seven. Uh, that's all just two years ago.
Speaker 1: That's twenty twenty four. So what I think is interesting
Speaker 1: about this is, like I said, I don't have that
Speaker 1: much to say about the extension in and of itself. Again,
Speaker 1: there's there's an asymmetry. My earliest and and like most
Speaker 1: gut reaction is like, you know, they're making a gamble.
Speaker 1: I guess, like that's a gamble they can they can
Speaker 1: make and whatever. And as you said, like they have
Speaker 1: a model that says this is.
Speaker 2: Worth it yeah, but they also like for me.
Speaker 1: And there's very little downside. Thirty one million dollars spread
Speaker 1: over seven years is not a huge hit to take
Speaker 1: if this doesn't work out. What I think is interesting
Speaker 1: is I'm looking at this player and I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out I don't think this is a bad gamble
Speaker 1: to take. I don't understand why it is a gamble
Speaker 1: they're taking.
Speaker 2: Right, like the he this is not a skill set
Speaker 2: that gets paid a ton in arbitration, right like I don't.
Speaker 1: So my thought is if he hits three forty, it
Speaker 1: is Yeah. I guess no one hits three forty anymore
Speaker 1: except Jung Hulu right now.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And like his contact rate that he is his contact
Speaker 2: rate is good. Is aasy contact of ninety two. That
Speaker 2: is very good. He's doing that while swinging at forty
Speaker 2: percent of his pitches, which is pretty love like if.
Speaker 1: He's just like a high so he doesn't chi, which
Speaker 1: is good. He's pretty passive. He's a sixty two percent
Speaker 1: Z swing. Yeah. And and my issue so, so look.
Speaker 2: He doesn't hit the ball in the air or particularly hard.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to over generalize, but he
Speaker 1: is listed at five seven one sixty nine. Maybe that
Speaker 1: listing is real because of that cast now right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it might be updated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least it might be updated. So maybe he's
Speaker 1: actually five seven, but he might be five six or
Speaker 1: five five. I don't know, but with abs that might
Speaker 1: be legit. But even at five seven, no, Look, I
Speaker 1: understand baseball players come in all shapes and sizes, but
Speaker 1: that is that is that's a tough profile in general, right,
Speaker 1: Like the guys who make it at five to seven
Speaker 1: are true outliers.
Speaker 2: Right, But even if he is a look, if he's
Speaker 2: a three win batting average and glove center fielder, like
Speaker 2: the sir, the model is gonna tell you your But
Speaker 2: I have to.
Speaker 1: Think the variance on that profile in the majors is
Speaker 1: you you might be a three wing guy, and you
Speaker 1: might be replacement level when the when the babbit doesn't
Speaker 1: go your way? Right? Right?
Speaker 2: Was?
Speaker 1: And god, hold on, hold on? Yeah, he max is
Speaker 1: at one oh nine, which frankly is not bad. No,
Speaker 1: it isn't, but it's very rare because his ninetieth percent
Speaker 1: style is one o two. That's well below average. His
Speaker 1: average exit velocity is eighty seven, that's well below average, right,
Speaker 1: he's the he doesn't hit the ball harder. So like
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you mentioned the unias might be the best
Speaker 1: second basement in baseball. You might be talking about centerfield unions.
Speaker 2: You might also might talk about like Magnaris Sierra, right
Speaker 2: right right, who was a better Probably we've over ranked
Speaker 2: magneris Sierra.
Speaker 1: I love man. I'm trying to learn it.
Speaker 2: It's this kind of it's it is this kind of profile, right.
Speaker 3: It makes me just wonder if the Brewers looked at
Speaker 3: this and said, well, until he's twenty five, he's going
Speaker 3: to be you know, you're getting essentially three or four
Speaker 3: wins on defense alone.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the other part of it. But you're
Speaker 1: saying is because this is the part that I'm I'm
Speaker 1: struggling with because center field.
Speaker 2: You're locking in the age twenty eight twenty nine seasons.
Speaker 1: And it's it's center field is again we talk about it.
Speaker 1: You have to be young. Now, twenty eight is not old,
Speaker 1: but it starts to and how many guys have they
Speaker 1: brought up who we thought, oh, they might be, you know,
Speaker 1: an average or better center fielder already at solf Redlic's
Speaker 1: in a corner. Jackson Jurio's in a corner. This you
Speaker 1: can't play Luis Laura in a corner, right. I mean
Speaker 1: you're talking about like the successful version is later career
Speaker 1: one Pierre Right.
Speaker 2: Ben Revere had a couple of good seats Ben Revere.
Speaker 1: I mean the question is like if you if you
Speaker 1: took his hitting profile generally and mapped it onto major
Speaker 1: league players, I think a lot of people would not
Speaker 1: be impressed by the types of players we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Like you said, mag Nurisieria, Victor Scott just got demoted. Yep,
Speaker 1: it is a volid and Victor Scott is as good
Speaker 1: a defender and center as you're gonna find. It is
Speaker 1: as it is a very volatile overall profile. Now and again,
Speaker 1: I say all this copying to the fact that Milwaukee
Speaker 1: has more information than I do and are really good
Speaker 1: at this. So I'm not trying to say all this
Speaker 1: to say this is dumb. I'm trying to say, like,
Speaker 1: given the information we have, I don't understand it, and
Speaker 1: well I understand, yeah, well, and I understand. What I
Speaker 1: do understand is their model says it's worth it, right,
Speaker 1: And I understand that even if if we built a
Speaker 1: model again seven point thirty one is so, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's so inconsequential. It feels I said this somewhere else,
Speaker 1: But it feels weird to me that I'm I'm in
Speaker 1: the position of saying like, there's a very, very limited downside,
Speaker 1: and I do see the upside in this extension, and
Speaker 1: I also question why they're bothering. It's not a bad bet,
Speaker 1: it's it's a weird bet.
Speaker 3: Well, when I look at this, I'm like, how many
Speaker 3: of these bets are they going to lay on the table.
Speaker 3: They've already done two of these, right, can can the Brewers?
Speaker 3: Is it still a good bet? If the Brewers do
Speaker 3: this with five like if they go, well, I think
Speaker 3: I think arguably that's better. That's what they're trying, and
Speaker 3: that's what seems like they're trying to do, right. You know,
Speaker 3: is Andrew Fisher going to take this deal? Do you
Speaker 3: want Andrew Fisher to take this deal? Do you want
Speaker 3: three more Andrew Fishers to take this deal?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I probably want Andrew Fisher to take this deal.
Speaker 1: Marc odingis yeah, uh yeah, I mean they have they
Speaker 1: have I'm sure again, I'm sure they have trust in
Speaker 1: what their model says in terms of what it's going
Speaker 1: to return. The people that I talk to in the industry,
Speaker 1: the team side people I talked to, were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like and a model is going to tell you this
Speaker 1: is worth it, Like I understand, like I am. Some
Speaker 1: of them I talked to, We're kind of like, this
Speaker 1: is a little uncomfortable, Like I I would personally be uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: But like, every team basically would do this. So again
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Milwaukee's wrong. Basically not every team would
Speaker 1: do this.
Speaker 2: Basically, if you project any of your prospects as a
Speaker 2: major league regular in any form, you should give them
Speaker 2: this deal, right.
Speaker 3: Like exactly, it's also exactly a bummer that still exists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also like it's not it's not honestly a
Speaker 2: bad deal for Liis Laura.
Speaker 1: No, not given, it isn't. Given the stuff that I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, what what is the what does the success
Speaker 1: look what does the success success story look like? With
Speaker 1: his profile with this badd at ball stuff. Now, maybe
Speaker 1: it changes. He's twenty one, right, they could get him
Speaker 1: more out front lifting the ball, you know, maybe he
Speaker 1: gets gets Yeah, maybe he's gonna swing. I don't know
Speaker 1: his swing speed, right, I don't have that, but maybe right,
Speaker 1: maybe they terrang him. And and if they, but my question.
Speaker 2: Is a very good contact rate and is capable of
Speaker 2: hitting a ball one hundred and nine miles an hour,
Speaker 2: right the right?
Speaker 1: That ex it? No, so I buy that, right, I
Speaker 1: get that. But why hasn't that shown up yet? Then
Speaker 1: if they think they can do it, I mean to
Speaker 1: show up for about a month, right, Well, no he's not.
Speaker 1: I mean no, it hasn't right exactly, and and and
Speaker 1: look the answer, Yeah, I don't know. They might have
Speaker 1: legitimate answers to that. I'm not trying to I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to ask it rhetorically. But as you said, Patrick,
Speaker 1: we're not going to No, yeah, they're not gonna tell
Speaker 1: us that.
Speaker 3: We'll find out.
Speaker 1: Trust me. I know people who work for the Brewers.
Speaker 1: I would ask them. They don't tell you any They're
Speaker 1: not going to reveal it. So I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: it's just an interesting it's an interesting thing, especially alongside
Speaker 1: the Pratt deal. There have been a number of these
Speaker 1: pre The other part of this is if you look
Speaker 1: at the extensions given to guys who have not debuted,
Speaker 1: it's not a great list. It's not Evan Waite yeah,
Speaker 1: but even even the more recent Yeah, hold on, I'm
Speaker 1: pulling up the earliest extensions. So Laura and Cooper Pratt,
Speaker 1: so Cole Emerson, we got col Keith, Yeah, been okay,
Speaker 1: Jackson Turi, that's a Churio.
Speaker 2: Probably got a lot more money than this too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Surio was a like, that's like that is it's
Speaker 1: to me different in a different category than Pratt and Cole.
Speaker 2: Cath is a good comp here, and that the outcome
Speaker 2: has been like fine, yeah.
Speaker 1: Fine, but worth it? Underwhelming and acceptable. Yes, Luis Robert
Speaker 1: obviously in a different category of prospect. He's been hurt
Speaker 1: too much. Yeah, but I would say, you know, they
Speaker 1: traded him. They did pick up the option. I don't
Speaker 1: think the Mets are going to pick up the next one.
Speaker 2: Sounds like he's going to be back fairly soon.
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see what might.
Speaker 2: Who's one of the worst hitters in baseball this year?
Speaker 1: Sure? Oh sure, No, I'm not the te I'm not
Speaker 1: worried about the trade. I guess I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if both of those are going to
Speaker 1: be picked up in terms of the options, again, worth it,
Speaker 1: you know, on balance for the deal that he signed,
Speaker 1: I would say, but under won't. Evan White not worth it,
Speaker 1: Elloy him and Az probably not worth it, right, I
Speaker 1: mean they moved on Scott Kingery, John Singleton. Those are
Speaker 1: all the zero service time guys. There are a bunch
Speaker 1: of you know, Samuel Bassio got five days in Connor Griffin,
Speaker 1: five days in Christian Campbell, six days of service.
Speaker 2: Matt Moore, that one was worth it. Yeah, seventeen days
Speaker 2: of great a memoir. Is kind of disappointing for where
Speaker 2: he was ranked, but it was still worth it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had enough good I think to balance out
Speaker 1: McGonagall twenty days of service time. Looks very good, by
Speaker 1: the way, I'll tell Matt true Blood wrote an article
Speaker 1: on part of what makes McGonagall so so good on
Speaker 1: the site today. And then Evan Longoria probably the best. Right,
Speaker 1: like Evan Longoria, Corbyn Carroll looks very good, Saddani Rafaela, Eh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Salvador Perez fifty days of service time. That one worked out.
Speaker 1: They extended him again two years early. But it's it's
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it's more of a mixed
Speaker 1: bag than you might think.
Speaker 2: None of the king Eies or Singleton's or Evan White
Speaker 2: stopped their team from doing anything else either.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's bad for the team. It's it's
Speaker 1: but some of them are you didn't need this is
Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. I both think there's limited downside,
Speaker 1: there's obvious upside, and I also don't know that I
Speaker 1: would do it. Yeah, we can go to our fourth segment.
Speaker 1: We'll go around the horn. We have some injuries. I
Speaker 1: mentioned O'Neil Cruz has a fractured hand. Ronald Akunya Junior
Speaker 1: was played. He had missed some games. They placed him
Speaker 1: on the aisle with a hamstring injury. Jack Kahanowitz out
Speaker 1: for the Angels with Tommy John surgery. We have crust setback.
Speaker 1: Is this different than the one I mentioned last time?
Speaker 1: He which was they said that there was a minor setback,
Speaker 1: but then he went for imaging.
Speaker 3: He said it was fine and they were going for
Speaker 3: I mentioning, And now he is saying it's not fine.
Speaker 3: This is way worse than I thought.
Speaker 1: Well, well, no, no, duh, you're very very minor setback
Speaker 1: that made you go for imaging. Wasn't a very very
Speaker 1: minor setback? Okay, so yeah, he's not playing He's now
Speaker 1: back to not playing catch. It's gonna be a long
Speaker 1: m Victor Scott, as I mentioned earlier, demoted he's been
Speaker 1: really bad. I wrote him up for the transaction analysis
Speaker 1: I I had mentioned before the season. I think I
Speaker 1: need him and him and Jordan Walker to freaky Friday.
Speaker 1: They're batted ball profiles. They kind of did it actually,
Speaker 1: and it's worked out really well for Jordan Walker and
Speaker 1: not well at all.
Speaker 3: Jordan Walker is still hitting. Yeah, just you know, if
Speaker 3: we don't work him up for a week.
Speaker 2: He is the only person that has not hit a
Speaker 2: home run in this match Cardinals game so far. The
Speaker 2: ball is lying out of city yeah, uh new bar
Speaker 2: barrels and Jared Young and Boba Schett have all lowered
Speaker 2: in the first like wow, oh yeah, of course of
Speaker 2: course Jared Young.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jared Young has been hitting. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I told you about this before last season. Craig's Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but Scott did actually do he put the ball
Speaker 1: in the ground more, which was I I said. I
Speaker 1: thought he should do to make use of his legs
Speaker 1: because he's hitting easy. He was hitting easy fly balls.
Speaker 1: Somehow his babbit has gone down, but partially maybe because
Speaker 1: his exit velocity has also gone down, which I thought
Speaker 1: was not possible.
Speaker 3: Maybe if he gets down far enough it'll stop, it'll
Speaker 3: die in from the infielders and they'll gets more infield.
Speaker 3: That was kind of my Yeah, exactly, there is there
Speaker 3: is a little bubble on babbit bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they might need to uh, they might need to
Speaker 1: send him like the obviously Milwaukee would not do this.
Speaker 1: They need to figure out what he did to Bryce
Speaker 1: Terrang and maybe figure it out for Victor Scott, because again,
Speaker 1: if he could be a ten worse than league average hitter,
Speaker 1: he's worth it in the field. Taiwan Walker was released?
Speaker 1: Where where was Taiwan Walker? At this point?
Speaker 3: I intentionally didn't put the name of the h I knew,
Speaker 3: I know he.
Speaker 1: Where did he go?
Speaker 3: He was Angels?
Speaker 1: The Angels? Oh that's right, Okay, did he pitch they
Speaker 1: released from? Or was he extras?
Speaker 3: Did he released? Let's see he had not pitched with
Speaker 3: the Angels. Let's see he was he in Salt Lake.
Speaker 3: He was in Salt Lake. He pitched four and two
Speaker 3: thirds innings and they weren't like gave up. He gave
Speaker 3: up two runs and four two thirds innings and that
Speaker 3: that was it for the EF.
Speaker 1: You missed your chance to see.
Speaker 2: Salt Lake and Jimmy Crooks is now homeward.
Speaker 1: And then we had a bunch of call up so
Speaker 1: and then he just stopped watching the Cardinals Homer and
Speaker 1: talk about what we got four?
Speaker 3: Well, we got two and then and then I could
Speaker 3: talk about.
Speaker 1: The last two. Okay, where you can't Braden Montgomery. We
Speaker 1: mentioned do you want to give a small rundown?
Speaker 2: Yeah, former first round pick of the recent first round
Speaker 2: pick of the Red Sox was traded in the Crochet deal.
Speaker 2: Very traditional corner outfield profile, big power, big speed, not
Speaker 2: clear he can hit, especially breaking balls. We'll see how
Speaker 2: that goes. And then Cole corrig Yeah, I liked Cole
Speaker 2: Crek coming out of the draft, but they've kind of
Speaker 2: just made him a one position guy. Like he played
Speaker 2: some catcher, shortstop and center field in college.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's played some infield and outfield. But yes,
Speaker 1: they've been winnowing, Yes, the interesting aspects of.
Speaker 2: Him, and he's kind of he's selling out more for
Speaker 2: like lift and pole now, which is but he was
Speaker 2: kind of a broad bassed guy and he's like picked power,
Speaker 2: which is probably good. Dreamy playing your home games, and
Speaker 2: course he's still like he's a he's he's interesting. It's
Speaker 2: like a power speaker. He'll steal some basses, he'll hit
Speaker 2: some homers. I don't think i'm particularly high batting average.
Speaker 2: I'm not tally sure where he's gonna play for the Rockies.
Speaker 3: But you can play third, right, Yeah, yeah they could.
Speaker 1: Kyle Kiros's yeah, maybe not the answer. Yeah, and then Patrick,
Speaker 1: you're so I put Roddy tell Us.
Speaker 3: We made the joke about Taylan Walker. But do you
Speaker 3: know where Rowdy tell Us was?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I mean I know, because he's replacing Ronald Acunya this week.
Speaker 3: He is replacing uh he is, he was. He's been
Speaker 3: in Gwinnette all year, the Braves, the Braves Triple A team.
Speaker 3: I was writing at the Raves this week. Boy, Gwinnette
Speaker 3: is a very funny Triple A team. I love these
Speaker 3: Triple A teams that just have no youth in them whatsoever.
Speaker 3: It feels very nineteen sixties to me to be like,
Speaker 3: all right, we're just gonna get all these guys who
Speaker 3: are washed out and are on their way down, but
Speaker 3: they're still good enough theoretically to play Triple A. That's
Speaker 3: rowdy tell Us, He's death. They have no depth because
Speaker 3: the basically their triple at their farm team is just
Speaker 3: guys like Rowdy Tellez who were barely worse than the
Speaker 3: guy they have at the major league.
Speaker 2: Level, so that they just like have the Eric Hartman
Speaker 2: breakout at least, Yeah, they do the air.
Speaker 3: So uh, tell Us was slugging forty three with it, so, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, he'll probably have a ninety ops plus at
Speaker 3: the major league level, and he will be slightly worse
Speaker 3: than who they had.
Speaker 1: You know, just where is he gonna play? He will
Speaker 1: not only be slightly worse than Ronald Kudne, well he won't.
Speaker 3: He'll be right. He will be worse than right field,
Speaker 3: that is for sure.
Speaker 1: Uh. They already have Dom Smith. They cannot also play
Speaker 1: Rowdy Tellis all right, so they have that also, Like
Speaker 1: he literally like you can only d h him. Are
Speaker 1: they gonna play Dom Smith in a corner?
Speaker 2: I mean it's been tried before, it has been.
Speaker 1: Done, but we also saw how it looked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good question because I mean
Speaker 3: your other choice is Eli White, right, well, he can
Speaker 3: at least play defense, You can theoretically play defense. Yeah,
Speaker 3: combining him is a weird choice.
Speaker 2: They're both are also in the Dodgers. It doesn't really
Speaker 2: matter mode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then let's go back, let's go back to Anaheim.
Speaker 3: Uh, Tray Nancini, who you've You've written this up, so
Speaker 3: you probably tell the story better than I can. But
Speaker 3: trainman scene has been around for a while. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well Jenny, Jenny wrote the t A. I made her,
Speaker 1: I made her have feelings about the Angels briefly. But
Speaker 1: tremon Seni has not made it. Played in the majors
Speaker 1: for three years. He had to be talked out of
Speaker 1: retirement by Brady Anderson, which is just a sentence. It's
Speaker 1: just a full on sentence. He came up, what he
Speaker 1: had three hits, yeah or something in his first game.
Speaker 4: Uh, but.
Speaker 2: I say the Angels would be trying something else, and
Speaker 2: they are. It's they are also trying, like.
Speaker 1: I just he has not had a hit since that
Speaker 1: first I mean, look, the.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with the Angels, what
Speaker 2: to do with the Angels.
Speaker 1: He has already managed an OBP below his batting average. Yep, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: look they they are doing this. Nolan Shaanenwell was activated
Speaker 1: off the Iel then got hurt and they are still
Speaker 1: not playing him, but not I yelling.
Speaker 2: I know to watch too much Angels this year, but
Speaker 2: I have somehow not watched much Angels this year, so
Speaker 2: I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. Trey Mancini is somehow only
Speaker 1: thirty four years old. Yeah, and in my head he
Speaker 1: was thirty seven.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: Well, he didn't get started until twenty five basically, so
Speaker 3: that late start, early finish career that uh.
Speaker 1: They are, it's more common you think they are staggeringly
Speaker 1: hurt as a sea. So Nolan Shanwell is not on
Speaker 1: the IL but is not playing right now. I think
Speaker 1: or might just just be getting back. They just sixty
Speaker 1: D D sixty day Yoan Mancatta, who was not surprising.
Speaker 1: He's always hurt. Yeah, he just put him on the
Speaker 1: sixty day. Josh Lowe also hurt quite a bit. He's
Speaker 1: he's just not on the forty man right or on
Speaker 1: the the twenty six man right now. Joege Solaire is hurt.
Speaker 1: Von Grissom with a one away OPS plus at the
Speaker 1: time of injury. Adam Fraser did not have a one
Speaker 1: away OPS plus at the time of injury. Also hurt
Speaker 1: Sebastian Rivera, who we just talked about, yes, has since
Speaker 1: gotten hurt like it is staggery. They are getting a
Speaker 1: near nine hundred ops out of Wade Meckler right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with this team, man.
Speaker 2: I mean it's I would say, like you can't. It's
Speaker 2: a very funny off season because you can do the well.
Speaker 2: You can't really blame the front office and manager. There's
Speaker 2: been too many injuries. But also like that.
Speaker 1: Sebastian Rivero, Yeah, yeah, which brings us to our game.
Speaker 3: All right, So we haven't played this in a while.
Speaker 3: We've played this before, yes we have. It's been a
Speaker 3: long time. What we're gonna do for this one is
Speaker 3: we're not using the booth. But I'm also not going
Speaker 3: to give you a score as we're running. I'll let
Speaker 3: you know at the end, I'm going to give you
Speaker 3: the name of a baseball team and you have to
Speaker 3: tell me no, all right, it doesn't matter rich you
Speaker 3: he goes first, because you know you're not gonna find
Speaker 3: out what happened. But we're I'm gonna give you a
Speaker 3: bunch of teams and you just tell me, is this
Speaker 3: a real team? And the first one is the Portland
Speaker 3: web Feet.
Speaker 1: I'm in hell.
Speaker 3: No, I'm also going to all right, uh the Aberdeen
Speaker 3: Guey Ducks.
Speaker 2: Like the clam Yeah, like the now are you are
Speaker 2: there any see? I am going to say, no, are
Speaker 2: these like.
Speaker 1: Actual names or this? Are you including? No? But are
Speaker 1: you including stuff? When they do? Like they're stupid like
Speaker 1: the the.
Speaker 2: From the nineteen twenties Craig, they're a old yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, no, I'm not using I am not.
Speaker 1: None of these teams are like.
Speaker 2: The Utter whatever yeah, like Utter Daddies or sexy Utters. Okay, yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I don't think there are any I don't
Speaker 2: think there are any guy ducks on the East Coast.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say, now here's an Atlantic Ocean bi valve.
Speaker 3: Okay, Uh the Tacoma Daisies.
Speaker 1: Fuck off, I'm trying to apply something the Atlantic Ocean vibe.
Speaker 2: They're not trying to apply some logic to that.
Speaker 1: No, I mean you're gonna be right, but like.
Speaker 2: I mean they might have just done it anyway, who knows.
Speaker 1: But also, screw you. Sorry?
Speaker 3: What was the Tacoma Daisies?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you have any thoughts on the flower dispersion.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, yes, I'm gonna give me. I'm
Speaker 2: not giving you anymore. I'm not gonna give you any
Speaker 2: more insight into my process.
Speaker 1: Craig the competition, Yes, yeah, sure, the Dallas Hams.
Speaker 2: Hams with an M, not hands with the okay, no ham.
Speaker 3: Oh like like they're not fighting ranch hands?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah sure, why not?
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, Dallas Hams. That's cattle country. I'm gonna say now.
Speaker 1: The Devenport cock we weren't getting insight into your well.
Speaker 2: You already did your answer.
Speaker 1: The Davenport what.
Speaker 3: You say it twice? The Davenport cock boatman.
Speaker 1: Sorry, just picture Patrick Patrick in his office at two
Speaker 1: in the morning, just writing out coming up with on
Speaker 1: his own.
Speaker 2: I don't better you better.
Speaker 3: Will believe I practiced reading all of these.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think Patrick works this blue.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, I'm gonna say yes. Also, is it
Speaker 1: like is it is it like a Cox like a
Speaker 1: cox in? Is that like a Coxswain? Yes, exactly. The
Speaker 1: Lebanon pretzel eaters. Yes, No, this feels very Patrick this.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna say yes, right, that's like they like Pretzel.
Speaker 2: That's German.
Speaker 1: Oh that's true, that's true. I'm gonna say yeah. Then
Speaker 1: I'm going back to yes, thank you. The reading actives.
Speaker 1: What the actives just that's the name of the reading actives,
Speaker 1: the adjective active. I'm not being more of my process
Speaker 1: on one running the game. I this all I I'm
Speaker 1: in hell this. I'm gonna say no. It's like definitely
Speaker 1: gonna be yes.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say yes because it feels like some
Speaker 2: weird nineteen ten ship, right, yeah, sure.
Speaker 1: Fine, but like that's so dumb.
Speaker 3: Get ready for dumb. The Phillips Burger Burgers.
Speaker 1: Yeah sure absolutely, I mean again, like what what Basically
Speaker 1: this is exactly the type of ship that they would do.
Speaker 1: But then it's so easy for for Patrick to just
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, it ends in burg I'll just do
Speaker 1: Burgers and trick their stupid asses. But you got me Patrick, all.
Speaker 5: Right, Jeff, No, I'll go with now uh the Omaha Omahawks,
Speaker 5: I'm furious.
Speaker 1: I'm furious.
Speaker 2: No, no, now.
Speaker 3: The Rockford Rocks.
Speaker 2: Sensing a theme for this one, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. The Binghamton Bingos they
Speaker 1: call it Bingo they do Yeah, fine again I'll be
Speaker 1: your Huckleberry. I'm gonna be your huckleberry.
Speaker 2: I think I know all the Binghamton ones, and I
Speaker 2: don't think that's one of them.
Speaker 1: A uh three more the Green Bay Bays.
Speaker 2: The best part of this is some of these are
Speaker 2: going to be real and somebody are gonna be fake.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I am your huckleberry everything.
Speaker 2: Yes for this one. This seems like something they would do,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: The the Athens Poultryman, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Is it Chicken Country?
Speaker 2: We're going to add anthetic. I don't know that between
Speaker 2: Athens and making in terms of.
Speaker 1: Like which Athens is it? Do we get to find
Speaker 1: out there are there's more than one. I don't mean
Speaker 1: that one in Greece, by the way, to be.
Speaker 3: Clear, No, you don't get to find out.
Speaker 1: Fuck it? Yeah fine.
Speaker 2: Athens poultry Man, Uh yeah, sure, okay.
Speaker 1: And lastly the Jacksonville Lunatics. Yeah, because I want that
Speaker 1: to be real.
Speaker 2: I think that's real. I do think that's true.
Speaker 1: I would like that to be true.
Speaker 3: Well, all right, that's the game. Congratulations to all of us,
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for joining the show. No, I
Speaker 3: will say, Craig, if you had been more of a huckleberry.
Speaker 3: You would have scored higher. I started it too late,
Speaker 3: he started too late.
Speaker 1: But you still did win.
Speaker 3: You won seven to six. Congratulations, Craig. All right, we'll
Speaker 3: go through the Portland web Feet real team.
Speaker 1: Two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all these teams that are real are from eighteen
Speaker 3: ninety two. I can't remember which league. I didn't put
Speaker 3: the league down for this one. You don't care the
Speaker 3: Aberdeen Gwey Ducks. I'm very frustrated with you, Jeff, because
Speaker 3: you applied logic. That logic was erroneous because Aberdeen is
Speaker 3: a city in Washington state.
Speaker 2: Oh I think in Maryland.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, And that allowed.
Speaker 3: Them to create the correct answer, which is that no,
Speaker 3: there's see.
Speaker 2: If I know it is Washington, I would have said, yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing about Aberdeen as a city is I think
Speaker 1: there's like seven of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well like when I think Aberdeen Baseball, immediately think.
Speaker 1: I also thought Maryland. I didn't argue with you. I
Speaker 1: thought Maryland too as well.
Speaker 3: The Tacoma Daisies. You were both corrected, is a real
Speaker 3: team the Dallas Hams. Craig was correct. It is the
Speaker 3: Dallas Hams. And I did Jeff. You you went, you
Speaker 3: fell right, into it because you immediately said this isn't
Speaker 3: the wrong type of meat, Yeah, which is exactly what
Speaker 3: I thought of I saw this. But it is a
Speaker 3: real team. Uh. The Devenport cock Boatman is not a
Speaker 3: real team.
Speaker 1: I freaking knew. I just Patrick in his like cackling
Speaker 1: to himself. You're range Lebanon Prets leaders. That is correct,
Speaker 1: So both of you got that one right. The Reading
Speaker 1: Actives is a real team.
Speaker 2: I was pretty confident in that one.
Speaker 3: The phillips Burg Burgers is also a real team.
Speaker 1: Yeah could who could possibly know? Yeah?
Speaker 3: The Omaha Omahawks, which might be my favorite team, is
Speaker 3: a real team. I think they need to start calling
Speaker 3: every team and.
Speaker 1: Do need to go back to that.
Speaker 3: The Rockford Rocks are fake.
Speaker 1: You got that right.
Speaker 3: The bingham To Bingoes are also correct. That is a
Speaker 3: real team.
Speaker 2: Really get eighteen ninety two. I don't go back with
Speaker 2: my knowledge of league teams.
Speaker 3: The Green Bay Bays. I think it's very funny because
Speaker 3: I assume the Bays would be the horse right, Like
Speaker 3: you can't be a body of are they? When they
Speaker 3: were calling themselves a bay? What?
Speaker 1: What bay is a horse? What?
Speaker 3: Well isn't there a baef is a horse, like is
Speaker 3: the b type of horse? Hold on, I know a horse?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, bay is a reddish, reddish brown horse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nor normal.
Speaker 3: Horses are bay horses. Okay, okay, yeah, like your green
Speaker 3: old brown horse is a bay horse, the green Bay bays.
Speaker 1: Can you.
Speaker 2: Patrick?
Speaker 1: Title of the episode, I don't know, horse, sure.
Speaker 3: With the s is going to be fantastic.
Speaker 1: I don't know, horse, but you do more than not clearly.
Speaker 3: More worse than you guys.
Speaker 1: But also you think bay bays are the horse and
Speaker 1: not the bay.
Speaker 3: Well it seems a little weird to call yoursel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we are the body of water. I don't
Speaker 1: know what do you think that's also a type of horse.
Speaker 3: Actually, anyway, you both got it right, so good job
Speaker 3: of that. The Athens poultryman. I did research this. You
Speaker 3: guys both got it wrong. It is not a real team,
Speaker 3: uh the Athens I did. I did look up which
Speaker 3: state which is the center of chicken population? Is the
Speaker 3: state of Georgia. I don't know if Athens with you
Speaker 3: know a college town in Georgia is a particularly chicken
Speaker 3: rife city within the most popular chicken country or a
Speaker 3: chicken state. But I did go for the state I
Speaker 3: did try it. Okay, it worked hard, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And then the Jacksonville Lunatics are a real team. Go
Speaker 3: out and get their hands God bless thank you. Yes,
Speaker 3: someone make a shirt. Yeah, yeah, someone to make a shirt.
Speaker 1: All right, Well that was horrible.
Speaker 3: It's been too long, it's been we should do that.
Speaker 1: It's you, it's your effort, Patrick, I mean you, yeah,
Speaker 1: But the problem is it's not a problem. I understand.
Speaker 1: This is this is how it works. But like if
Speaker 1: you had just done another city that ended in Berg
Speaker 1: and call them the Burgers, I'm gonna say yes again,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be like, no, it was Philipsburg, not
Speaker 1: not you know, Ralphsberg, And it's like, well, who the
Speaker 1: fuck would know?
Speaker 3: You certainly got me with that hypothetical situation being a
Speaker 3: jerk that.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not calling you, I'm just saying it is
Speaker 1: it becomes impossible to know except they didn't do that.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if you're doing that or no.
Speaker 1: That's the point.
Speaker 3: It's just you just you just have trust issues with
Speaker 3: this game.
Speaker 1: I mean the yes, how many times did you come
Speaker 1: up with making names trust issues? This is you sewing
Speaker 1: this is great. Fuck yeah you sewing is my trust
Speaker 1: issues now.
Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you for the.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the game, I guess. Thank you to
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