WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.480 The very familiar voice, the voice of the Utes, joins 2 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:04.759 us on a Tuesday bill. Happy Tuesday, sir. 3 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:08.199 How are you Spence? I'm great. I thought maybe with 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:10.839 you know, the football schedule being released, we might get 5 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.720 a football highlight, but I get basketball highlights are good too, 6 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:17.000 and just to highlight in general from porters even better. 7 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:18.920 No, I'm proud of my guy. I just wanted to 8 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:21.359 point out when my guy does a good job, and 9 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:24.320 he ran a Ryle's highlight, which is a good way 10 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:26.000 to welcome you into the show. Now we'll get to 11 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:28.640 basketball at the moment, but of course we'll do the 12 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:32.000 schedule release to start things off. And I just I'm 13 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:35.600 gonna ask right off the top, why Utah BYU October eighteenth? 14 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.960 The last time these two teams played football in October? 15 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:41.640 I think you were twenty five. It was nineteen sixty seven. 16 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:48.240 Yeah, to be honest with you, I have no idea. 17 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:52.560 I mean, I got the November thing, like early November, 18 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:55.840 but the middle of October is an odd time for 19 00:00:55.960 --> 00:01:01.679 that to me. Yeah, I have no idea. Maybe they're 20 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.880 downplaying it, maybe they don't have any other good games 21 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:06.840 that day, But you would think I kind of I 22 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:09.680 didn't mind November ninth last year. Sometimes you get buried 23 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.480 on other rivalry Saturdays, but it just seems like an 24 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:14.799 odd time to play it, right, smack dab in the 25 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:15.519 middle of the season. 26 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:19.439 Anything else really? I mean, look the difficult part about 27 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:21.879 you know, a day like today where fans just want 28 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:24.359 to know, like, Okay, is it a hard schedule or 29 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:28.439 is an easy schedule? Arizona State was picked sixteenth last year. 30 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:30.560 I have no idea if this is a hard or 31 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:34.480 an easy schedule. But other than byu Utah October the 32 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:37.319 eighteenth down in Provo, anything else really jump out at 33 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:38.359 you when you saw the release? 34 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:43.040 Yeah, I mean that's a good back to back right there. 35 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:45.560 Here's the thing. I just until we know what these 36 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.680 rosters are going to definitively look like. And I shoot, 37 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:51.000 like you just said we knew what Arizona State's roster 38 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:53.239 was going to definitively look like. They had sixty new 39 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.560 faces and they'd go sixteenth and they finished first. I 40 00:01:57.719 --> 00:01:59.840 don't have a great feel for it. I mean, I 41 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.200 think Utah is going to be better. I mean, if 42 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:05.000 Devin damp Pier is anywhere close to the guy they 43 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:06.599 think he is, I think they're going to be better 44 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:09.080 this year. I just quote get competent quarterback play, We'll 45 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:12.039 get him there. I'm looking at that stretch that there's 46 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:14.919 two three game stretches. I'm looking at the Arizona State 47 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:19.479 BYU Colorado stretch, and then I'm telling you that stretch 48 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:24.039 to end the year is going to be difficult. Baylor 49 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:26.319 got better last year. I mean, we saw a bad 50 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:29.800 version of Baylor in salt Lake last year. They finished 51 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:32.919 really strong, and that game's down at Waco. They bring 52 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:35.919 back their quarterback. K State, who we didn't see a 53 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.759 year ago, comes to Salt Lake, but they bring back 54 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:41.560 their quarterback. They're a team that's built a lot like Utah. 55 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:44.479 And then that final game of the year at Kansas. 56 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:48.360 I'm just gonna say this, it could be possibly the 57 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:52.800 two most dynamic quarterbacks in the Big Twelve squaring off again. 58 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:55.400 If Devon dam Pierre continues to play how he did 59 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:59.080 at New Mexico and Jalen Daniels is healthy. So those 60 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:03.199 two three games Arizona State BYU Colorado and then Baylor, 61 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:06.000 K State and Kansas, and two of those three to 62 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:09.240 end the season, that's those could be two tough stretches. 63 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:09.639 For Utah. 64 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:12.719 Yeah, that K State game here at home. Hopefully we'll 65 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:16.680 have massive implications. Obviously there's a lot of football. Well, hell, 66 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:19.080 there's a lot of time between the football and then 67 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:21.560 there's a lot of football between you know, the start 68 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:23.759 of the season and that game. But that that game 69 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:25.719 when Case State rolls into town, that certainly could be 70 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:30.680 a heavyweight fight. Ultimately, the non con you know, UCLA 71 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:33.240 is the first game Pasadena will see. I mean, that 72 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:36.240 program's been down for a while. And then cal Poly. 73 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:38.639 You know, we all know the deal. At some point, 74 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:41.719 games like this will probably go to go away. So 75 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:44.400 BYU is going to East Carolina and I know that 76 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:47.199 that is a contract that Tom has to honor. Is 77 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:50.080 that the same thing with Wyoming? Like what's what's what's 78 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.039 the motivation heading up to lare Me or just trying 79 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:52.840 to fill a schedule? 80 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:56.240 Well, now, that game was scheduled a long long time ago, Okay, 81 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:58.759 got it? In fact, I think you was scheduled almost 82 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:03.039 ten years ago. And I just know this in conversations 83 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.639 with people. It's you know, people are like, well, just 84 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:09.560 buy yourself out of that game. Well, you know that's 85 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:12.400 I don't know the exact figure I'm gonna guess that 86 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:14.240 would be if you tried to buy yourself out of 87 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:16.680 a game like that. First of all, Wyoming wants that game. 88 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:20.240 Second of all, it's expensive to buy yourself out of 89 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:23.040 games with D one schools. Now, if you're playing a 90 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:25.240 one double A or something like that's a little cheaper, 91 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:27.959 but it's hard to do it that. It doesn't always 92 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.319 make economic sense. So that that game has been on 93 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:32.519 the schedule for a while, Wyoming will come back here. 94 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:34.279 But yeah, that was that was done about. I think 95 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:35.680 I think about ten years ago. 96 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:38.720 UCLA has been down for a while. You know, their 97 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:41.360 first year in the Big Ten they go three and 98 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:43.720 six overall, or three and six in Conference five and 99 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:46.920 seven overall. I'm not going to sit here and tell 100 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:50.720 you I'm ready to give you an accurate preview of 101 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:54.480 the UCLA Bruins next year, but I suppose starting things 102 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:58.040 off an opponent that may not be that challenging yet 103 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:00.279 is out of a P four conference is some thing 104 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:02.240 that you can kind of look forward to. What's your 105 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:04.120 thoughts on the opening game against UCLA? 106 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:06.800 Yeah, I think so. I mean they struggled a little 107 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.439 bit last year. Deshaun Foster. I think was their first 108 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:12.680 year quarterback or head coach, had never been a head 109 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:15.360 coach before. I think they got a little bit better though, 110 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:17.560 as the year went along. But if you're going to 111 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:21.480 play a P four school, I think UCLA still kind 112 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:23.560 of trying to figure out where it falls in the 113 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:27.360 Big Ten and going down there it's familiar territory. I 114 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:30.639 like that as an opener, especially with cal Pauly and 115 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:34.439 Wyoming on the schedule. So I think again, based on 116 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:36.839 what they did a year ago and not seeing a 117 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:40.160 lot of hyper or vibe about them in the Big Ten, 118 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:42.279 I think that's not a bad place to open. 119 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:46.199 Yeah, they actually, to your point, went through a stretch. 120 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:48.600 Now Ethan Garber's was a senior, so he's gone. But 121 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.439 to finish off the year the second half of the year, 122 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:54.079 they won at Rutgers, they won at Nebraska, then they 123 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:57.279 want at home against Iowa, and they gave Washington and 124 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:00.480 Southern Cali good game before winning at Fresno to finish 125 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:02.319 things off. Just the start of the season was rough. 126 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:04.560 They had a pretty rough schedule. They got smoked by LSU, 127 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:07.399 Oregon and Penn State and then played a little bit better. 128 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:09.279 So yeah, to your point, they didn't prove a little bit, 129 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:13.399 all right. So when you look at the let's let's 130 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:16.040 let's let's break this in two parts. So the home 131 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:20.759 schedule is cal Poly, Texas Tech, Arizona State, Colorado, Cincinnati, 132 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:23.800 Kansas State. And you know, I'm not gonna be the 133 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:26.040 guy that says I missed the PAC twelve every single year, 134 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:28.560 but I do and I continue to. But with the 135 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:32.120 with the options bill at our disposal, that's not I mean, look, 136 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:34.040 cal Poly, you know the deal. They're going to get 137 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:36.079 a check, They're going to go fund their athletic department 138 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:38.519 and then we'll see what most of these teams are about. 139 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:42.279 But just on paper, first glance, Arizona State, Colorado, k State. 140 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:44.120 Three good conference home games. 141 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:48.600 Yeah yeah, those are three of the top six in 142 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:51.560 the Big twelve coming to your place. That's Arizona State 143 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:54.199 and Arizona State spans. You know, even going back to 144 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:56.600 the PAC twelve days, everybody was looking for that rival 145 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:59.240 of the PAC twelve, and oh it was never USC. 146 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.240 Come on, they played good games, but that wasn't I 147 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:05.439 always felt like Utah and ASU there was a little 148 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:07.759 bit of an edge and some chippiness there, and there 149 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:10.439 were good games played in Salt Lake and in temp 150 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:13.560 b I like that and I think that you know, 151 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:16.480 as they play in the Big twelve too, that could 152 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:19.319 it's kind of reagion. Utah recruits a lot of kids 153 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:21.639 out of Arizona. They go ahead to head and recruiting. 154 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:25.480 I like that game Dion and the Road Show comes 155 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:29.040 to Salt Lake City. I don't mind that in Kansas State, man, 156 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:31.600 they're not glamorous, kind of like you know, people used 157 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:34.759 to talk about Utah. They're not glamorous, they're not sexy, 158 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:36.680 but what do they win a lot of football games? 159 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:39.240 And that's what ky State does too. So those three 160 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:41.959 games all falling kind of in the second half of 161 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:45.040 the schedule. I think it's a good home schedule b Yu. 162 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:47.680 I mean, look, we did this exercise last year, and 163 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:50.519 as we've already outlined, it's just impossible to know who 164 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:54.079 has the easier schedule, who has the harder schedule. But 165 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:56.639 BYU does return a grip of talent. Where do you 166 00:07:56.720 --> 00:08:00.000 think preseason top twenty five? Where do you think Brigham 167 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:01.000 Young lands next year? 168 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:03.680 I've seen a lot of early polls that have them 169 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:08.120 in that kind of nine to twelve thirteen range and 170 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:11.680 based on what they did this past year. Okay, I don't. 171 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.000 I don't value them quite that high. I think they're 172 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:17.040 a top twenty five program for sure. I think they 173 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:19.040 were one of those teams. You know, It's kind of funny. 174 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:21.439 Utah was on the other side of the about ball 175 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:23.720 bouncing their way, and I thought the ball bounced by 176 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:26.240 US way quite a bit. I'm not saying that the 177 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:28.920 disparage program. I think they're really good. I'm not sure 178 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:31.839 they're a top ten program, but I think there's somewhere 179 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:34.720 between fifteen and twenty five. Does that sound about right 180 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:34.919 to you? 181 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:38.399 Yeah, I would guess fifteen sixteen. What about I'm assuming 182 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:41.080 Arizona State also ranked? But which other Big twelve teams 183 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:43.000 are you? Are you? Are you guessing as of now 184 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:44.799 will be in the preseason top twenty five? 185 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:48.840 Best guess I'm gonna say Arizona State, though I mean 186 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:54.320 cam Scattaboo's a big loss. To look around at that 187 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.600 a little bit. Kansas State's got a chance, Baylor might 188 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:02.639 have a chance. Depending on the hype around Colorado, they 189 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:04.720 might have a chance. I'm going to say in the 190 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:10.840 preseason top twenty five that there's probably four, maybe five 191 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:15.360 big twelve teams ranked, but probably not many more than that. 192 00:09:15.799 --> 00:09:18.360 Utah some people are going to I mean, Bill Connelly 193 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.440 from ESPN picked them to win the league, and I 194 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:22.759 don't think you could make a case for that, certainly. 195 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:24.679 I think a lot of people when they come to 196 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.120 preseason and offseason polls are prisoners of the moment. They 197 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:30.039 look back at the year before and see a down 198 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:32.960 year for Utah. So it won't surprise me if the 199 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.039 UTA are left out of the top twenty five at 200 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:36.120 least to begin the season. 201 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:38.320 One more football question. Then we'll move over to some 202 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:40.480 hoops and obviously get a little Super Bowl talk with 203 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:44.559 you as well as somebody who has now called games 204 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:47.159 in the Big twelve, and as somebody who has experienced, 205 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:49.159 you know, growing up and going to school in the Midwest. 206 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:52.399 Road trip options Pasadena right out of the gates, Go 207 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:54.960 ahead and do that in August, play some golf, and 208 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:58.720 then Porters choose to head up to the the you know, 209 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.480 to the Wyoming Gaming wants to go to Laramie. So 210 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:04.679 we're gonna send Porter up to Laramie very early. Maybe 211 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:07.440 stop at some Flying Jays and grab some chicken sandos. 212 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:14.159 Not judging so Laramie, Morgantown, Provo, Waco, Lawrence, Kansas. Those 213 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.480 are your road trip options. Give us the Bill Riley 214 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:20.240 Zagat guide to trips in cities and restaurants. Where should 215 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:21.039 you fans look to go? 216 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:24.799 If we're taking well, we know what the Rose Bowl is. 217 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:27.519 Most ute fans know what Laramie is, so we'll wipe 218 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:30.559 those off the board. I've never been to Morgantown for 219 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:33.120 a football game, so I am looking forward to. I 220 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:35.840 hear it's a great college town, and I hear it's 221 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:39.279 a great atmosphere, and rich Rod's back at West Virginia. 222 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:42.600 I think that they've got a chance to be sneaky good. 223 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:44.840 It's not easy to get to. You kind of have 224 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:46.639 to fly to Pittsburgh and make an hour and a 225 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:53.279 half drive south. But I would say Morgantown, Wacoh, not 226 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:56.559 much in Waco, to be very fair, some BUCkies, you know, 227 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:01.320 truck stops, they're okay. Kansas. It's going to be late November, 228 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:04.679 so there's that. But the stadium, it's going to be 229 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:07.200 a brand new football stadium, assuming they get it finished 230 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:10.200 and they're not playing it Arrowhead again. Lawrence is a 231 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:13.440 great college town, and Kay you's got a chance to 232 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:15.799 be pretty good next year again if the Daniels kids 233 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:21.600 stays healthy. So I would rank the trips for college 234 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:28.039 town atmospheres, Lawrence, Morgantown, and then probably Waco is where 235 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:28.559 I would go. 236 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:31.080 All right, moving over to some hoops and I wanted 237 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.480 to start here. And I know I can remember back 238 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:35.440 in the day when we were working together every day, 239 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:37.279 you had an old school picture of you interview and 240 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.399 I think it was Roy Williams. Is that correct? 241 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:40.679 That is correct? 242 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:43.799 Have you ever called a Kansas basketball game? Like when 243 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.600 you think about the fact that Kansas is rolling into 244 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:50.399 saut Lake and you will be calling Utah Kansas basketball? Like, 245 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:53.799 has that kind of landed where it needs to in 246 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:55.679 that brain of yours, Because this is a pretty cool 247 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:58.039 thing that you have on the horizon for your career. 248 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:00.320 I think, Yeah, I got to win. And I was 249 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:03.320 in college the student radio station. We had a seat 250 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:05.440 court side, so I got to call some games my 251 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:09.200 senior year at Allen Field House. Nice the Utes played 252 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:12.080 the Jayhawks in that one off game in Kansas City, 253 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:15.519 and like, I was it fourteen or fifteen, So I 254 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:18.639 did call one in Kansas City. But this will be 255 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:20.320 the first time they come here, So it'll be fun. 256 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:21.000 It'll be fun. 257 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:25.080 And you know, Kansas is good, they're talented. They've been 258 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:27.000 a little bit up and down. But I don't know 259 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:28.960 what's going on with Iowa State. They were top five. 260 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:31.799 Now they've lost three straight. But let's get over there 261 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:35.200 to the Utes now. And you know, ultimately, after winning 262 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:38.039 three straight games in the Big twelve, including a win 263 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:40.320 over Brigham Young, maybe some folks got a little bit 264 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:43.279 over their skis with excitement. And of course since then 265 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:46.399 it's you know, losing three or four. Since you and 266 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.440 I last spoke though, a trip to Oklahoma State, where 267 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:51.559 it was kind of like, all right, they're kind of 268 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:53.679 in this, but I don't feel like they're gonna get 269 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:55.320 over the hump. They couldn't get over that like seven 270 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:57.240 or eight point deficit. Every time they would make a 271 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:00.679 little bit of a charge, turnovers, they missed a shot, 272 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:04.200 Oklahoma State would capitalize. So it felt like Oklahoma State 273 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:06.879 was in control most of the game, although Utah did 274 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:09.559 keep it competitive. Bill, if the Utes are going to 275 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:12.879 try to compete for anything even semi special, you know, 276 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:16.000 eight nine, you know, eight nine conference wins year one 277 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:17.720 of the Big twelve. They're gonna have to find something 278 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:20.320 on the road. That seemed like a good opportunity because 279 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:23.039 Oklahoma State is not top shelf. But what did you 280 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:25.279 make of that eighty one seventy two loss. 281 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:29.320 It wasn't a good loss, Spence, Oklahoma State had just 282 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:33.440 lost Kansas State by twenty eight, you know, Utah beating 283 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:35.919 them by twenty one. It was really the start of 284 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:37.759 the game that did them in. Craig and I talked 285 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:40.440 about on the Coaches Show last night. They just they 286 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:43.120 didn't come out on the defensive end with great energy, 287 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:45.919 and they let Oklahoma State kind of dictate. And Oklahoma 288 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:48.399 State's not a great offensive basketball team, but they let 289 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:51.639 them dictated home, and they got down like twelve three 290 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:54.919 and then fifteen to five. And they always, as you 291 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:57.000 were just kind of alluding to, they were always kind 292 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:00.519 of just playing from behind just a little bit, and 293 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:03.039 they just you know, again, teams are going to play 294 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:05.200 well at home. They were kind of a wounded animal. 295 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:07.600 But you know, with a chance to kind of get 296 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.399 a season sweep against a team, especially on the defensive end, 297 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:15.159 they in Oklahoma State get to the line too many times. 298 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.440 So it was a disappointing loss for sure. Tomorrow night's 299 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:20.720 about the closest thing you have to a chance for 300 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.080 a really easy bounce back. Colorado is really struggling right now. 301 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.919 They've lost ten in a row, haven't won a big 302 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:29.320 twelve game yet. You're back at home tomorrow night, so 303 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:31.480 you got to circle. Tomorrow night is one of those 304 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:32.240 get well games. 305 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:34.759 Has Craig said anything to you about because we had 306 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:37.679 Craig on the show on Friday and I asked him, 307 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:41.000 and whenever you say tinkering to a coach, you kind 308 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.360 of cringe because you know they take that as an insult. 309 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:46.919 But the rotations and the lineups, like every night, it 310 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:49.279 feels like it's different every night. There's a guy who 311 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:51.879 didn't get run the game before who comes back and 312 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:54.960 gets seventeen eighteen minutes. Is this kind of like he's 313 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:57.159 going to bring whatever the night needs rotationally or do 314 00:14:57.200 --> 00:14:58.879 you think he's still trying to figure out sort of 315 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:00.679 what hand he's been dealt now. 316 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:02.519 I think he's trying to figure out who's going to 317 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:05.559 bring it for him sometimes, if that makes sense. You know, 318 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:08.159 it's really been up and down at the point guard spot. 319 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:11.679 Miro Little had that great game against Baylor, and he 320 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:14.360 struggled the last couple of games. Mike Sharp Johns had 321 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:16.600 some struggles, but now he's playing a little bit better. 322 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:19.240 And you know, boy, if you want to be consistent 323 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:21.360 at any one position on the floor, you'd love for 324 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:24.039 that point guard to be that spot where you're consistent. 325 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:26.919 So I think Craig and his staff are just trying 326 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:28.799 to search for those guys that are going to give 327 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:32.919 him not one game of consistency, but several games of consistency. 328 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:34.559 And I think that's why you've seen some of the 329 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:35.639 some of the lineups. 330 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:39.360 All Right, you already alluded to this, but let's just 331 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:41.039 get a thought before we get over the super Bowl. 332 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:43.279 Let's get a thought on the game tomorrow night. Say 333 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.480 it is Colorado and Colorado is probably the worst team 334 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:50.679 in the conference because you know, oh to ten. And 335 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:53.240 then look at West Virginia at Cincinnati. I said this 336 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:56.240 after the Cincinnati win. I'm like, look like I said 337 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:58.039 to you, they have to find some road wins. And 338 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:00.879 it felt like that a four game stretch with three 339 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:04.399 on the road, with some winnable games. West Virginia solid 340 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:05.960 and that's a tough place to get a win. I'm 341 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:08.279 not saying that that would be a cake walk, but 342 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:12.360 ultimately they also have Cincinnati, who they already beat. So 343 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:15.200 your thoughts on just a must win game tomorrow here 344 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:16.720 in Salt Lake, then give me a quick thought on 345 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:18.080 the two game Roady after that. 346 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:23.279 Yeah, the Colorado game is one you've got to have. Again, 347 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:26.000 as mentioned, they've lost ten in a row. They're just 348 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:30.279 they've had some injuries. They don't have the same talent 349 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:32.679 that they've had in recent years. He's had some NBA 350 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:36.360 guys in recent years, including one that's playing for the Jazz. 351 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:41.120 So it's they're they're lacking talent right now and being 352 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:43.639 at home and coming off the game Saturday tomorrow night's 353 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:46.279 one that I think that they should they should probably get. 354 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:48.799 As far as the road games go, there's not an 355 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:53.759 easy road game left. Spence West Virginia, not easy Cincinnati 356 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:55.240 on the road. I know they beat them, but you 357 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:59.480 know the Cincinnati team is pretty good at home. UCF 358 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:03.440 it's on a UCF has beaten Kansas, they've taken Houston 359 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:06.319 to the wire. They're tough. And then your other away 360 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:09.799 team is going to be Arizona and BYU. So yeah, 361 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:11.759 rote you know they're going to be tested on the 362 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.920 road for sure, and then you're bringing Kansas here, West 363 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:18.279 Virginia here too. So this second half of the first 364 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:20.000 half of the schedule was difficult for you. Till the 365 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:22.079 first ten, they had the fourth most difficult schedule in 366 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:24.960 the Big Twelve. But it's the Big Twelve. It's not 367 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:27.240 like the second half's going to ease up a bunch either. 368 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:31.000 So all right, super Bowl fifty nine in the Big Easy. 369 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:33.720 Hopefully somebody is going to go over to Danis Seafood 370 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:35.640 and have a shrimp Poe boy in honor of Bill 371 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:36.079 and Spence. 372 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:37.559 How great was that? 373 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:39.839 Oh my gosh, that was one of my favorite weeks 374 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:42.039 that I've ever had in doing this for a living. 375 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:45.240 That was so fun for our listeners that are wondering 376 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:47.400 what you're talking about. Bill and I did a week 377 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:50.279 worth of shows prior to the Sugar Bowl back in 378 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:52.559 two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, the Utah 379 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:55.359 One of course, over Alabama, and we did every show 380 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:58.200 at a restaurant called Deanis Seafood and they fed us 381 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:01.559 for free and it was awesome. Bill over the loudspeaker 382 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:04.279 called Nick Saban arrogant, and somebody told Bill to go 383 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:06.559 back to his Mormon church, to which I responded, I'm 384 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.079 not sure that means what do you think it means 385 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:12.200 to that guy? But anyway, but that was such a 386 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:12.880 fun week. 387 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:15.680 That part of it, that is right. How did you 388 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:19.240 forget that those arrogant Alabama fans that were in there 389 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:22.920 almost they were just being so they were being so 390 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:25.240 petty and just like they were patting us on all 391 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:27.759 you guys are a cute little team. And then I 392 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:30.200 said Saban was a little arrogant and that was really 393 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:33.799 before he'd ever won anything at Alabama. And yeah, that 394 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:35.559 one guy did not want to have that. 395 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:38.519 Did he go back to your Mormon church? He says 396 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:40.599 to Bill. I'm like, oh, all right, well, I guess 397 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:43.799 that's the low hanging fruit because we're a Utah radio station. Anyway, 398 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:46.640 that was an awesome week and the game, of course, 399 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:50.000 I still think that's the best individual, single win in 400 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:53.079 the history of the program. But that's just me. I 401 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:56.119