Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Gimmick, the
monthly wrestling show here at Keith first on the Canadian Nightmare,
and I am joined by the one and only live
from the ref cam. Thank god, thank god your camera
is not the refcam. I'm joined by David. How are
you doing on this Sunday morning.
Speaker 2: I'm doing good? A little bit higher quality than the refcam.
Doesn't look like I'm shooting from an iPhone tan over here,
but yeah, I just got to catch up on sleep
after a long night of wrestling and other stuff. So yeah,
it's it's been good.
Speaker 1: Don't pull a seth and just throw your your camera
down in the middle of the match. You know.
Speaker 3: I get they lost the battery fact, but I love that.
Speaker 1: I was wondering how man he was, but oh man,
I can't wait to talk to this man. He's living
his dream. It's gonna happen. The number one the Babyfea's
Babyface Priese number one fan s bubs, how are you dude? Okay,
big title loss, but it did so meant the baby
face INSS. So it's it's a you know, the yeah,
it was worth the sacrifice. Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, there's there's some great moments there that I'm excited
to talk about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got Summer slams as we said before, mostly
it might be a few little stuff at the end.
We'll get the draft results if s bum scots that already,
But other than that, we're just gonna talking abou summer
some because there's some big developments and we'll talk probably
you know, like other green stuff too if okay, what
happens with the blood by next you know, Bash of Berlin.
So there'll be ten tendential stuff that is kind of
attached to it, but we'll do that. So, David, I
want to start with you, what do you think of
or what did you think of Summer Slam overall? Did
you watch all seven hours? Did you want to watch
the three hour pre show? I certainly did not.
Speaker 2: I watched the last forty five minutes of the pre show.
I was not three hours and the whole thing. Only
thing like I went back and watched was us through
x Twitter. They had posted some of the interview that
they did like seem Punk had a good one, but
it was like ten minutes and I went back and
watched that one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they liked the like even though it's too long.
Speaker 4: The pre show, there's a they did a lot of
interviews in like different ways like some people up to
like going to the desk, or like interviewing backstage or
the pre taped interviews, so it wasn't just like the
same stuff like video package, video package, like they were
doing it in some different ways.
Speaker 2: It very much reminds me of ESPN College Game Day.
Speaker 1: They're doing it very It's getting very sports, oren't it
now with the when the whatever show starts showing the
people in the parking lot like walk up, like that's
the same thing like in football they do the all
time they like after the the because the press conference
now used to be like half an hour that think
is like an hour and a half now because it's.
Speaker 4: In triple talk for like forty five minutes. I turned
it off once he showed up because I know he
was gonna go.
Speaker 5: But I watched the rest of it.
Speaker 3: I think I watched it because I'll watch for like
bigger ones.
Speaker 1: But last night was like this is the I'm done
watching the post show because it's way too long and
it's just like and it's weird because it's a mix
of people kind of out of kfe but then they're
right in the k fabe like you gotta you get
an interview where it's just like, oh, I'm the best,
you know.
Speaker 5: But because it's weird, it depends on like what people
ask them.
Speaker 4: Yes, like and Tiffany would have like one about like
I don't know, like destroying Bailey, and then the next
question would be like.
Speaker 5: How they met and now they're like best friends.
Speaker 1: See that happens on what people ask I think I'm
fine that it's the mix of you got the press conference,
you got them being interviewed backstage, and then you got
them on like the panel with.
Speaker 3: Like Barrett and Jackie.
Speaker 1: So it's like a weird mix of like there's a
mix of k fabe and real.
Speaker 3: There's real, there's just super k fabe. So it's and
it's just too long.
Speaker 1: There's they got more ads in there, like some of
the stuff Braun could be saying on Ross. So I
think for me, I'm just gonna I'm gonna let the
twitter o't like a'l whatever people just tell me because it.
Speaker 4: Just like auto plays yes, and then I'll just watch
it for like like I watched yesterday, like my uncle
came over and we were watching it like with my
dad and stuff, and like it just went to like
I wasn't gonna say anything until they said, like, okay,
let's turn it off.
Speaker 5: When I was we were just saying.
Speaker 4: Watching the press conference for like forty five minutes because
they didn't say anything and I wasn't gonna turn it off.
Speaker 3: But yeah, how was the actual show for you?
Speaker 1: David? If you have like an overall grade of the summer,
so I also go match my match with the overall
grade of the whole show.
Speaker 2: Overall grade, I'd probably give it a BB minus me.
There were some very high highs, but there were also
some moments where you're just like, all right.
Speaker 3: Let's you didn't need jelly Roll for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't need the jelly Roll segment. Like
I was happy for mez and Ar Truth to be
on the show, but I was less happy for jelly Roll.
Speaker 3: Jelly Roll must have something over Triple Ah.
Speaker 1: Tripleh's a big fan of him, and that guy got
like three segments last night, and like.
Speaker 5: He's gonna be two K twenty five DLC.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, if they still have that twenty four to
seven championship.
Speaker 3: They that would be jelly roll.
Speaker 4: On Yeah before have a golden title like Snoop Dogg's
the golden title they do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dave before you gotta ask ask us this
question because I'm gonna easily forget about it. I know
you're the number one baby face prit Van. How do
you feel about Austin theory these days? Because this man
is getting jobbed out? This man, like you do you think,
like what's the trajectory?
Speaker 4: They have one face turnout a time? Now he needs
the six months build up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like do you think?
Speaker 1: But do you think there's like a way that he's
gonna babyface and be like uber over and Poplar Like
I feel like it's just gonna turn Nothing's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean it's kind of the same thing with like
the Otis thing, how they just like kind of stop that.
But then anytime he does have like an interaction with
Gable or like pushes them, the crowd is like still there.
Speaker 5: For I don't think like Theory and like the.
Speaker 4: Waller thing was ever as hot as like the Gable
and Odo.
Speaker 5: And I and Otis is probably.
Speaker 4: More likable than the theory and in all honesty, so
I don't know a theory, like they might just have
them like I don't know, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know where it's going. It's gonna be
him and Jelly Roll versus Grayson Mall and like someone else,
which again another weird thing was like like machine gun
Kelly Heel later on, Oh, look, the theory's calling him
right now. He didn't. He didn't.
Speaker 3: He didn't support me, but put me over pal.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Dave back to Conto so bb MIAs,
you're saying BB minus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was just there are some matches that were
like super good and then someone was like, oh, this
is we can wrap this up a little bit. I
felt like there was going to be more with uh
the Seth special referee. He did more of just like
the sitting on the rope spots and the hey I'm here, guys,
don't forget I'm I'm in charge type deal. Yeah, it
played into the ending, but during the match, like them
constantly cutting to him just like oh, I'm not paying attention,
got a little bit overboard and kind of took away
from the drew and punk aspect of it. And then
like the women's match was a little bit shorter than
I predicted it would be. I'm happy for Nya Jackson's
match though, because I wanted her to walk out the winner.
I want to see her being the big badge she's got.
She's still wearing the queen crown and what's going on there.
Speaker 1: She doesn't have no cape, shouldn't have no stuff. This
is the right amount we're going through. He's like he
sometimes even forget. They tried to do the whole King
Ring general, but I feel like they're just they're just
going back to the ring general. Like I feel like he.
Speaker 5: Had the crown like the raw after and then.
Speaker 1: Yeah again and the king names like fifty when they
use it, and I feel like he's even forgetting now
he's world champ, but he didn't need to be the
like the Brockton go around call himself like King brock Lessner.
Speaker 3: Like it was fine for a.
Speaker 4: Month, and I noticed, like when they did the ring announcement,
they did it like the like the Royal Rumble winner.
Speaker 5: They're like the King of the Ring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine, that's why they got and I don't.
Speaker 5: I think it was.
Speaker 4: It made sense for them to both win it because
they're like, this is like establishing that like new title shot.
Speaker 1: That yes, ye adding so, and it's a worthy thing
to win because you had to call your shot and
it's like the second biggest show.
Speaker 2: So yeah, the l A. Knight Logan Paul match really
did nothing for me.
Speaker 1: Now, you know, the same match as always with again,
Yeah we'll get there.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Now, I thought, knowing they did do really great.
I thought, I thought he looked a lot of cool stuff.
Speaker 2: He looked good. It was just it was a normal
match for those two, like there was nothing special or memorable.
Speaker 3: Now killed him on that suit off the top rope.
Speaker 1: I thought Paul's neck was going to be done after that.
I was so yeah.
Speaker 2: I was waiting the whole time though, for Kevin Owens
to come out and power bomb Machine Gun Kelly. I
was really really hoping that happened. That just is my
peer distain for Machine Gun Kelly. So I was like,
please let someone go through a table. And I felt
that the Braun and Sammy match was good, it just
could have been. I thought that they were going to
do more of a dominant Braun than they did, and
so I think a more dominant caught you off guard.
Not necessarily I'm the better wrestler, but just my power
caught you off guard type deal would have been a
better suit for where they're going with Braun. But I
also understand that, Okay, he went to with Gunther, so
now he's got to go toe to toe with Brawn.
He's got to still be tough in defeat. So yeah,
that's why I land on B B minus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about you?
Speaker 1: How was Summer Slam?
Speaker 4: I'd probably go like a B plus. I don't know
if like a bully A, but I agree most.
Speaker 5: Of what David said. I think I did enjoy overall,
probably more than him, so I m'd get it like
A slightly above.
Speaker 4: It's like, I agree with the criticisms, so I think
I still enjoyed probably all of it in general.
Speaker 5: I like, I thought it was a fun time.
Speaker 4: I think my favorite match was probably like it's hard
between like I think between Gunther Priest and Rhea Live,
because I do really like like those, like just like
hard hitting matches. Like I think probably my favorite match
of all time is like that uh WrestleMania thirty nine
Triple Threat. Yeah, it's Drew and Gunter, so it's just
another one of those matches where they're just.
Speaker 5: Like not to stop hitting each other the whole time.
And then the real live one was just I thought
that one was great too.
Speaker 4: The whole shoulder stuff I thought, which I saw some
people didn't like. Like I saw people saying like, oh,
matches a ten out of ten, but the shoulder.
Speaker 5: Stuff was weird.
Speaker 1: I didn't like it, And I was like, people never
liked that.
Speaker 3: It's it's weird, like it's rare. It's weird that they.
Speaker 1: Watch professional wrestling and it's like all scripted. But when
anyone's like trying to act like they're like popping the
shoulder back, then like, oh, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: That's it's too far from me.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm always find it for the for the
most part, which I feel like it's becoming more common
the past two years of the shoulder spot. You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I really like the show.
Speaker 4: I think like solo Cody, I don't really like that much,
like I thought for the most part, just like an okay,
yeah uh, and like it was all for the Roman return.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all for the glock Anderson return.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it. That was a good pop I
was I'm ready to draft him next next go around,
he's gonna he's gonna take a run. Him and Cody
take champs, you know.
Speaker 5: And it was fair.
Speaker 4: It was nice too with him walking to the to
the ring and stuff.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I thought Solo Coody was a fine match.
Speaker 4: Even with like the bloodline rules they didn't really like
it was just like no countouts pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the stairs AW rules almost like they did.
Speaker 3: They didn't weapons. He's an AW referee there, just.
Speaker 5: Like I don't know, like it's like there's no cows.
But then he tries to use the chair. It's like, oh,
you can't do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's too far and even yeah, we'll get there. Yeah,
I think I'm kind of right. What were you guys then?
Like I'm a solid B on it. I think there
was I think it's start off with liv and Riea.
I think there's some moments that kind of under delivered.
I wait till the main event, but I I I
think I enjoy I was fine with the main event.
I just was like that we'll get there. But the
best way put in the discord, it's what I'm always
gonna worry that secret Wars is gonna be to Endgame
where it felt like they were just doing Endgame again.
They're doing WrestleMania, but it felt like lesser them because
Randy and Kale were there at Mania. They could also
ran out, but it's like they're like, no, we got
John Cena an undertaker, so you guys sit back. So
it's like, well, they're not coming out to Cleveland for SummerSlam,
so you guys, and there's It just wasn't the same
type of vibe.
Speaker 3: I wish there was wait, wait, wait till we get there.
Speaker 1: So I think that thing where a lot of the
big moments I was waiting for that, even Punkin Drew
Drew that kind of under delivered a bit.
Speaker 3: Even stuff with Damian.
Speaker 1: Gunther I think were good, but there's one spot in
the match that like really bugged me. So I think
the other thing thatough I was waiting for is I
don't think we got like a like match of the
Year candidate. I thinelk SummerSlam Wrestling should always have one
of those. I'm not saying it has to be like
when people compare the shows and everything, not saying that,
but there should be one where it's Akay maybe the
show was all right, but this match elevates it.
Speaker 3: I think there's lots of.
Speaker 1: Matches like I think rihann Live a really good chemistry,
but that was a more story based one with Dom right,
so you're never gonna get that five star Wrestling Classic.
And again I think it would have been punk and
Drew wait to the match. It's like when I said
last episode, I think Seth actually really did take away
from this.
Speaker 3: I think they could have ran this back with Seth.
Speaker 1: I think there was just issues, but yeah, I have
a lot of little issues that kept it not a
bad show.
Speaker 3: It was easy watchabule show.
Speaker 1: I think it was other than you know, some jelly
roll and some advertis I think like the Manscape ad
that was thinking, it's like that's a bathroom break for me,
but it was just like a weird because it was
so weird.
Speaker 5: I did feel like the show moved pretty quickly, though.
Speaker 4: Yes, I feel like compared to like Money in the Bank,
I felt like it would be like I feel like
that had like more ads.
Speaker 1: And match and then like ten minutes in between of
like this, like this is like a.
Speaker 4: Match, you'd get like one video maybe like you'd get
like the story of the match, yea package, and then.
Speaker 1: You get the match because the ship I.
Speaker 4: Maybe with maybe with having like stuff in the ring,
it's like that's your advertisement, yeah for today, Like you
don't get to put a video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which they had a lot of. Every match was
sponsored by something, so I'm sure they made like a
ton of advertising money.
Speaker 3: And I'm fine with all that stuff. And the videos.
Speaker 1: I hate when they're like, let's show you video Jay
Us and it's just like he's not wrestling or anything.
It's just those videos where it just shows like the
last year of his career and they do that all
the time. It's like, why am I getting that?
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe that's like I think I went to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying they didn't do that, but sometimes
they they've been doing that a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah they didn't do that, but they'll just be.
Speaker 5: Like no money in the bank.
Speaker 4: One had like so many they had like top ten
Pat mcafedeo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like I don't we don't need this,
Like I get it, that's what the pre shows for
and whatever. But yeah, overall, I think it was a
good show. I think it moved fast. I don't think
there was anything that's anything for the reverse. There was
nothing all time bad on here either. I don't think
there's like, oh man, this is really so Uncle the Joy.
I just think for the second biggest show of the year,
it didn't deliver on that, but you know, it's still
a good show. And I think we got some good
stuff with Bash and Bad Bloodies.
Speaker 4: They're saying like match of the Year candidate stuff. I
feel like that could come from like Bash and Berlin's. Yeah,
Bad blood might get some of that stuff moved to there.
Speaker 1: So the show start off Live and Ria, I think
it all went well. I'm gonna go Dave first because
I thought we were all in the bandwagon of Live winning.
But then I see David's chart they post on Twitter
take this and yesterday.
Speaker 3: Some wild picks by the way, when.
Speaker 1: I was looking at this, like oh my goodness, what
why did you think Rio was winning it back?
Speaker 3: And then what did you think of the actual match?
Speaker 2: So I went back and forth on these two a lot,
and I was like, all right, how is this going
to be the time? And then when it was originally announced,
Hey she's coming back, this is the master doing I'm like, Okay,
I could see Live whining. But then they did all
this stuff with Dom and her licking this side of
his face and everything else, and I was like, Okay,
maybe they're not. And I was like, maybe this is
gonna be a good time to push Rha back as
the leader of the judgment day. And then yeah, they
they went with the Dom screwing her over and things
like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not even not even the ambiguous, the full on.
Speaker 2: I thought if she did lose, it was going to
be a an accidental like he was trying to help her,
and but then Live got the help and then you
were like, was that on purpose? Was that not? They
go fully into it right out the gate just blew
my mind. I'm like, oh, we're going for this now? Okay,
yeah I did another kid that's poor title changes on
this show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the big air there, poor Dom's wife just having
to watch Dom make out with all these hot women
every month, like who's it gonna be next? You know,
like my god, But.
Speaker 2: And you know, I posted on Twitter, I was like, yeah,
I know, I can see how it is. Do you
want the tin out of ten hot goth girl or
do you want the tin out of ten crazy blonde
who brought you a PlayStation in unlimited nuggies like nuggets.
Speaker 1: How does one acquire unlimited nuggets? Like, how does.
Speaker 4: Someone like research where the nuggets are from? So I
was saying that was like a like a Wendy's one hundred.
Speaker 6: Nuggets that should the fact that haven't done enough sponsor
the next dome that should be by Wendy's or something
and be all about nuggets and have a tran nuggets
have hit them with the nuggets, you know, like there's
tons of stuff you can do.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just there.
Speaker 4: Like because like if Live and Dom, we're gonna have
like their own like like many Judgment Day club house,
because they had that one segment with Dom where he
was trying to get Ria back that he had like
his own like locker room or something, or like Riha's
locker room or something. Maybe it's like the Champions locker
room or something. So I wonder if they'll do that
because I don't think the Judgment they is gonna have
their their hang out.
Speaker 1: The clubhouse, which I love. I love every week like
it was last week we lived ruined the clubhouse.
Speaker 3: It's like dudes, you move it every week. It's like
I love sometimes that makes it seems like.
Speaker 5: I guess they carry the same stuff over dude.
Speaker 1: But it's just like you can move and get new
stuff and them move it like sometimes they act like
he always takes place in the same spot all the time, like, Oh,
what we're gonna do about this, Like I don't know,
throw it out in ass production, bring you new stuff,
you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm just glad this isn't in the Vince
McMahon era because if it was, with all this talk
about nuggets and stuff, sometime during this feud, someone would
have gotten dropped some sauce on them from the rafters.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, I suppose.
Speaker 3: What do you think about this batch?
Speaker 5: I really liked that it was great stuff.
Speaker 4: I thought, Yeah, like I said before, the shoulder thing
I thought worked really well.
Speaker 5: I called like the dom putting.
Speaker 4: The chair in the ring, and like I thought that
was what was gonna happen. Uh yeah, I do feel
like I get why it went that way.
Speaker 5: But it definitely could have gone longer. Do I think
probably they are going to have another match, so saving it? Uh?
Speaker 4: I thought ryas selling like how she always does, like
he will say, like she sells the d DT.
Speaker 5: Like the best at everyone flips, so yeah, and she
also did that same so like it was for the Oblivion.
It works so well because she like flipped like.
Speaker 4: Because Live like falls backwards, so she like flipped so
quickly that by the time liv was falling, she did
like the like the sweet and Music pin where she
like falls backwards on top of her.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that worked really well.
Speaker 3: She's good take that move because a lot of people
take that move like Ship like.
Speaker 1: Was no selling. Yeah, because there's really that move.
Speaker 5: You don't get like any height because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it's just like so many times it
looks so like it's a creative finish, So I do
like it. I wish you'd kind of get a like
a double finish, like another one to hit that's faster
or even know if it's a submission, but yeah, because
it's but Ria makes it look it's also because.
Speaker 5: Taller acted too.
Speaker 4: I think I thinka might be like one of the
first people to kick out of it because people just.
Speaker 5: Like you like foot on the ropes or roll out
of it, like I think Becky has rolled out of
the ring on being living in like five times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree. I really like the match.
Speaker 1: I like, there's a couple of matches on here that
had particular stories, and I I was a fan of.
The first five minutes was just Live running away. I
know something I get annoyed by that. That's like, that
fits the.
Speaker 3: Story, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. When and then Rhea, so she's
so good at her facials and her acting and stuff.
I'm really interested to see if she tries to transition
into like some acting roles in the future. But I
like that because it fit everything. And then Lived on
dominate for the next five minutes. So it's a seventeen
minute match, but it's like, really the first minutes is
all Rhea and then the shoulders. There's the injury. I
think they did enough good stuff with Down to show, Okay,
which way is you're gonna go because he pushed Rihea
the way when he stops Rhea with the chair, it
would make sense, right, And I liked that. When the
twist happened, it was that Live didn't know, so I liked.
I like, I'm wondering what they're gonna do. Did don
know that whole time he was gonna turn or was
it like a in the moment? I like, now I'm
gonna pick Live, and that's where it's like I almost
would prefer it that way because it could be like, oh, yeah,
he's saved Rhea, but then he's like, no, you know
what I do. I do want to go with her.
But I liked that Live didn't know. I like it
wasn't just a big con. I liked that as she
was surprised by it, and it was a good moment
at the end. I think Rhea sold that good too,
and I think it sets up for lost up. But yeah,
I think they got good chemistry. I think it was
always like a good to decent rest. So I don't
think you're ever gonna get her having the match the year,
but with the right opponent, she can have some good stuff.
And I think Rihea and her is a good opponent
because Riea can toss around and Lift can play like
the braddy little heel that takes cheap shots and everything.
Speaker 3: So I want more.
Speaker 1: I know it's probably happening at Bad Blood, but I
still would prefer I've said this before. I think there's
a whole WrestleMania's worth of season to get there. Like
I know it's a long time, because that's what's the Tember, October, November, December,
Jenna for every March. That's that's sad. Yeah, that's except
seven eight months. But I just feel like with the
Judgment Day breaking up with Riha versus Dom and then
Royal Rumbull, because I just don't know that what's the
trajectory that they they space it out to bad blood
Rhea gets the win, and I just don't know with
Rihea's a baby face, we always predicted like, oh, they'll
do her in Bianca, I don't think now's the time
because Ria and biyonc are both faces now and I
just don't think it would be natural unless they're gonna
do just the who's the face of the WWE. So
I just I don't know what the trajectory. I'm excited
for the few. I'm not uh, you know, worried about.
I think there's gonna be some good stuff. Like I said,
I I still hope they do Rhea and Dom. I
know they'll probably just do inter gender match, but I
think there is tons.
Speaker 5: Of think you like Jay versus don.
Speaker 3: Is it Jay or Damien?
Speaker 1: That's always a tough thing, right, well.
Speaker 5: I think Damien Damien Finn right, right?
Speaker 1: Some people have said they might, because here's the other thing.
I know, we're jumping for it, and mayb'll just touble
them together. I've seen a lot of people say, oh,
they're gonna run back Damien and Gunther for Bash of Berlin,
but I don't think that because they're trying to make
you know, bid Damien number one babyface, you know, like
like he'll just get booed and I and that. Then
the other option I've seen is Drew, but I don't
want that because I don't want to We've Drew's lost
enough recently for the world time. Even though I actually
don't know play more out there claim Shamus, Daniel Bryant
and he Claymoorrism gets the pin.
Speaker 3: That's it. But like that's the only problem with Drew Now.
Speaker 1: I really don't know when he's gonna get a world
title because I don't think Cody's dropping that for another
year and gone through not Drumm for a while.
Speaker 3: So now truth is kind of like I think he's
just kind of stuck now, like like.
Speaker 1: I don't like I think I'm still surprised Gunther has
it as early as he does. But yeah, to back
to live in Ria, do you guys think it ends
in bad blood? Do you think it goes further? What's
the trajectory of this feud?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: I think it ends in bad blood. I think that
they're going to wrap it up cell match nicely and
everyone goes the way they take a sell, right, they
could be the cell match, Yeah, they they could be
the women's cell match. I could definitely see that because
you can do a lot with Dom being stuck on
the outside and trying to get in and trying to
help out and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1: Or Dom better get some color. You throw Dom off
the somehow Dom and Lee live holding each other and
she pushed them both, but no, Don better got colored
for hell in the cell if they if he's in there,
Ria better mess him up.
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, see, and again that's the perfect opportunity
if you're going to do a top.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much like like two on one handicapped in
and that's where you probably get her like like rip
tiding Dom at some.
Speaker 5: Point in this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can see that image.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you, in my opinion, if they do Hells out,
those two, Ria will bleed and I can see the
image of her holding up the title standing over them bloody,
like I get because she's you know, they eradicate he
and Brutete like I can see them doing that, and
so then yeah, Bash and maybe it is Jay. I
do think Dom and Live win the mixtag though by
Hooker Crook some way, because I think that's they're gonna be,
like I guess a longer term you know thing. So
I think that they win and then bad Blood and
then so then what do you guys think?
Speaker 3: Like then what do you do with like.
Speaker 1: She's champion again going Mania season? God forbid, don't make
it Charlotte again. I love Charlotte, but I don't need
Charlotte and Ria, you know thrice in a lifetime. What
is your guys's pitch for what do you do if
we WrestleMania season and it's long term out but like
throwing it out there before we get a roadmap.
Speaker 2: I think that that's the time that you go for
crowning someone new you still have time to build or
somebody else.
Speaker 4: Is like they could like call up like probably roxand
pres by that point, I think they had one match
in that next tist like when Rio like did that
run like last year?
Speaker 1: Is Rox and versus Riatt Wrestleman, and they'll gonna be like, a,
is that gonna be marquee enough?
Speaker 3: Though, Like I don't know if it is.
Speaker 2: Now you you have to go, in my opinion, you
have to go off of whoever wins the Women's row
Rumble that that's who you go with in that case.
And then I wonder if you do a brand swap
at that point and maybe have someone like Jade come
over or Bianca bell Air come over, Like both of
those would be marquee championship matches. You could have Bianca
go after the Women's championship after winning the Royal Rumble,
and you can have Jade go after the SmackDown Women's Championship.
Speaker 3: You don't think they're gonna do Jade and Bianca.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna do Jade and Bianca yet. Really,
I think they may hold off just a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: I was also trying to rack my brain if there's
any women in Aw's contract aspiring anytime, so, you know,
I was just trying to think of any big Matt jump.
You know, hey, Britt gets in a little more trouble,
makes the jump over. You know, No, now I talk
myself about. But now beyond I imagine they'll just paint it.
I guess as who's the best. I actually would like
to see Bianca go back to being a heel for
a bit.
Speaker 3: She was really good in XC. I don't know if
they will because they feel like.
Speaker 1: She kind of has the scene of treatment where they
really like her to be like idle turner heel.
Speaker 5: Like that would be like them like at WrestleMania to
beat Rhea. That would be like the moment if you're.
Speaker 1: Ever Yeah, and see, I don't know if I want
that because I would want them to close the show.
Speaker 3: So I'd want it just to be like a clean
one way or the other finish and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe yeah, maybe just you just do just babyface, babyface,
who's the best and go from that way.
Speaker 2: You know, there's no real strong women on the raw
roster currently like you have who's injured Leo Ria.
Speaker 1: I think that I think that's gonna happen, but I
don't know if it happened at Mania. I think that's
like a rumble. That's like a rumble or even survivors. Well,
I guess I could do war games again. See that's
why i'd Love Live and Rita go longer because you
I'd love to see like Team Rea versus Team Live.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who would be on that like war games team
this year or like for women's work expecifically because men's
is probably bloodline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope it's not just like damage Control versus
like the whatever they're calling the what her Sonia, Yeah
whatever that one just calls them something she I'm not
gonna say what they say on Twitter, but you know
what it is, like I'll say scissor shield is what
they call them, and just like that, only they're strong enough,
so like to me, like Team Live because like I
don't think anything on SmackDown can support the war games
and now it's just gonna go like beat a bunch
of people cool, And that's why I think what like
I would like it that Live somehow beats her bad Blood.
Maybe they don't do hellme Cell and they do war
games and then you yet Riata Royal rumble like I
would like Tribah loves his long stories, like I would
prefer that. But if it's not that it's reversus somebody,
maybe there's just Rea versus damage Control and they turn
they flip them back, and that's leading to EO and
Re and maybe EO like gets a win at war Games,
so you can build up to like, okay, but like
it's clearly that's not gonna be the closing war Games, right,
that's gonna be the first match. It's gonna be the
whatever they do a bloodline. So I think you could
see Rhea's team lose or eat a pin there and
set something up so it could be and then who
and Oscar's come back eventually, right, So yeah, it's probably
gonna be Ria versus somebody. But that's my pitch is
I'd like it team Live and then you can have
a bunch of people that like I don't know, she
finds I.
Speaker 3: Don't like Ria, or having screwed over by Ria.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: So I just think that Ron needs to build up
it's women's roster really soon because it's there's a big
drop off after you get past Ria and Live. There's
a big drop off. Me.
Speaker 3: I put you up there too.
Speaker 1: Probably.
Speaker 4: I think the ranking right now in terms of like
people they they push is yeah, like Ria Live, EO.
Speaker 5: And like Lira.
Speaker 1: They're trying with Lyra, Yeah they're trying, but they got
to get her out of this stupid six men six
women tag with like Cayden and like get you why
I'm gonna get you anywhere?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just like that.
Speaker 2: He doesn't even make sense to me. I don't know
why they're doing this. I don't know why Lyra's dancing
in the ring with these party girls, Like it doesn't
make sense.
Speaker 1: I don't that's not the way they should just be
like heating her up with wins. Maybe there's more NXT
call ups. I don't know, maybe there's something like that,
So we'll revisit that. But it's interesting because it's I
don't think there's like a clear path in which way
they're going, because I think EO and Ria happens. Because
even then, let's say it's not Ria. I don't even
know who Live goes next. I guess might be Lira
if they want to like space some time up between
her and Riha.
Speaker 3: But that's why I feel like, maybe you could even
do a Hell.
Speaker 1: I wonder if there is a hell and a cell
chance and Live still wins that somehow, Like I don't
know how they would do that, because that would just
be the Summer Slam finish again it would be them
screwing or over but.
Speaker 3: I really don't know.
Speaker 1: So it's a good problem to have that there's lots
of routes that can go so anything else on Living
Riea specifically.
Speaker 2: Now, the background footage after the match is amazing, Like
if someone hasn't seen it, go to Twitter or go
to ww's YouTube and see it. Just three the reaction
and emotion out of real water looking back through that
curtain afterwards. Oh, it's just some spot spot on from her.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think she's gonna she's gonna start
acting in the next couple of years. She's got a
lot of range, so I think, I'm I'm like I said, I'm,
I'm very excited for the cat and mouse game of
Rhea trying to get her hands on Dawn that I
think there's just tons of great TV there, so they
at least got two to three months I think of
quality stuff they can do, and even the Judgment Day stuff,
which well maybe we'll just talk about now because that's
tieden with it. Judgment Day. Do you guys think because
I see a lot of people Judgment Day it's over.
What a run is Judgment Day over? Or is it
a new version of it because I took it so
that it's gonna be a new version.
Speaker 4: I was thinking more like they like kicked yeah Damien.
Now like I don't think it's like fully.
Speaker 3: Over because I've seen like What a Run, and.
Speaker 4: I think with the What a Run it is valid
because it's like they were like the group for the
longest time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't forget about it.
Speaker 1: Ed was in there.
Speaker 4: Now it's like this new Judgment Day is all people
who weren't or like who weren't Edge Damien.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not the OG group.
Speaker 5: Yeah, completely new people.
Speaker 1: And even then like Finn I love Carlitos, the MVP
on Raw nowadays, like and I love it obviously, it's
like it's they're not gonna tied in because from AW
but I love Edge or Edges like Second Night and
when he's on a Christian and he's saying like, oh,
I had to turn because like this group's gonna use you,
take all your knowledge and kick you out. And I
like that's almost like the Judgment Day model, like hey,
Edge form the group, they use them, kicked him out,
They brought in all these.
Speaker 3: People like living or sorry Rhean Damien they use them.
Speaker 1: Okay, now kicked like I kind of like the judgment
Day is like this kind of cannibal type of group
that when you're not good enough for the group, where.
Speaker 3: We don't need you anymore, we kick you.
Speaker 1: And that's why the second the down when he fully turned,
I knew Finn, which I'm so happy you guys are
trying to convince like you're scaring me about Damien getting
a win over gun. The gun there cannot lose the
David Freeze. Gun there needs going for a while.
Speaker 4: It is a little bit of Garrett on the near
fought when Finn was gonna put his foot on the ropes.
Speaker 3: No, I never was.
Speaker 1: The second Don did the hard turn, I knew Finn
was also doing the hard turn if it was the
slid in the chair and oh no, what did he
mean to do? Then I thought, okay, Damien could find
a way they do it it bashed, but once it
was a heart turn, like okay, they're doing like an evolution.
They're kicking everybody out here, and I thought they had
a good I think Damien came out like big in
this match for a long like for his last defense.
I think he came up there and lots of times
he's just beating the ship gun there, like gun Thro
was on the ground like looking up poor Gunther his
fucking like they should have done it the week before
on Monday, his chest was still tattered and bruised from Finn.
Speaker 5: Saying like this is crazy doing this like before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the poor guy's getting them recut open
like his please don't let him wrestle for like at
least two weeks because I was like, his chest is
looking real bad.
Speaker 3: But I thought they had a great spot there.
Speaker 1: I was fifty percent on one spot where I loved
Finn puts the leg on the rope and Damien season
on the monitor.
Speaker 3: Love that because people don't do that. So they made
him a smart babyface.
Speaker 1: But then the next move they made him dumb where
Gunther kicks out and what does Damon do instead of
going back on him gun there, he runs over to
Finn and grabs and he's post like why would you
do that?
Speaker 4: That was a great moment though, like with him like
he's about to pass out and then he like he
like revives himself to get out of the show.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was good. Yeah, that when he got out
of there, so there's all good stuff.
Speaker 1: I just wish you didn't do the fin grab because
it's just like you can get him at any point, like,
don't like you're gonna lose your title here, bro.
Speaker 3: But I think it was a.
Speaker 1: Good showing, and I think if he cannot stay over
as a baby face now this this is his fault.
Speaker 3: He needs to just offico work on the promos.
Speaker 1: But I think they made him sympathetic, they made him
fighting champion, his friend turned on him. I think this
is a good setup for okay people that like Damian.
Speaker 3: Now it's to me.
Speaker 1: I think it is. It's up to him because he
got three months of with Finn.
Speaker 5: They get the Jay Damian Sam the new faction on Raw.
Speaker 3: Yeah with Ree.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna call themselves, the Yeat
Day or whatever, but yeah, I can see them sound
the Yat shirts and Purple. You know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: We already know Triple listens to you. Let's not give
me any ideas.
Speaker 4: Had had a Yat themed gear that he had a
dark match like j and he had like a Yat
shirt on with the blue mask.
Speaker 1: And the oh nice everything.
Speaker 5: So I think it was a tag match.
Speaker 4: I don't know who was It was like the Judgment
Day versus it was it was like form So I
don't know who was on that team.
Speaker 5: It was like Jay Raymond Stereo like two other people.
Speaker 3: But either way, I'm just happy Gunther got the win.
Speaker 1: I was very scared. This is the start. He's gonna
have this title at least for a year. This guy,
like I know, people joke he's gonna be Bruno's record.
I only need to beat Bruno's records, but I think
he's gonna have this for a while. So, uh yeah,
David take this title from room.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they said in that back or people point on
the backstage interview with his title, there was the Sena
bus behind him. I guess you know what you could
because I could see them do a thing where Sina
beats him and Guther could literally just beat him the
month after and take it right back, you know, so
we could.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like the fans powered scene up. Yes, like
the WrestleMania energy powered him up to beat Gunther and
then him other.
Speaker 1: Point, I'm all down for see the seventeen I'm down
for and then Gunther maybe wins it back or Drew
But what do you think, David about Gunther new worldwood Champion,
Finn turns on Damien and the match.
Speaker 2: Overall, I think Gunther's gonna rock that belt for a
nice long time. I mean, they kept mentioning his long
grain as the intercontinental champion, so they're gonna set him
up for just being a dominant champion and that's gonna
be part of his stick. I'm the ring general. I
held the n XCUK belt for so long, guy out
that in a continental belt for so long. I'm not
letting go of this. What if super Sina is going
to get seventeen off of the belt, I would rather
it be this than the main WWE title because I
don't want that to just be a throwaway in that storyline,
because there's so much going on over there, Like if
you can't beat Cody and then you can't be the
one who comes back and beats Roman or whoever else
is holding the title. So yeah, if he's going to
do it, then a quick drop and come back for
going through with that, I'd be fine with that. But
I'm I'm excited to see gunthres champion. I'm excited to
see that entrance with his ring jacket and the pose
and he has the belt just in there like I'm
I'm here for all of that week for the Aura.
Speaker 1: The Worthyway Champion Aurah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as Priests goes and where he goes
from here, you know, there's there's gonna be some feuding
with with the judgment day, There's gonna be the whole
who's in charge?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: Where do we go from here?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Who can I trust? Type deal. I think that they
are going to have a match him and Finn, and
then Finn's probably going to go after Gunther's title. Really yeah,
I think this is a good time to put Finn
back in the main event scene.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you could do right Damon off TV,
and I wonder if Finn could get the match at
Bash because he has a heel. They had the match
on Monday, which obviously lost, But I wonder if he
could be the option and Damian kind of pulls a
punk and screws him over there because because the only
problem is I think and gun There could happen, but
what happened down the line when guntherer He's gonna be
a heal champion, right, So it's I just don't know
if they're gonna heat Finn up to be a to
be a baby face anytime soon, so so I could
see it a bash. Actually he might be a little hotshotted,
but I.
Speaker 2: Mean it's and it's too soon to put Jay in
that role against Gunther, because again, for the guy whose
name is main event Jay, you keep losing in the
damn main event.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to win, he doesn't have to win.
Speaker 3: He just gonna be in the main event.
Speaker 2: But I don't need you losing another championship match, like
right out the gate. Like at some point that or
goes away when they keep putting you in championship matches
and you keep losing in championship matches.
Speaker 1: Well, and Jay's gonna be busy with Bloodline stuff right
like I feel like he's gonna. I think he actually
has three options. I think he's gonna team with Rhea.
I legitimately think that him and Samy are gonna win
those team titles probably pretty soon. They've already beat the
tag champ, so I think Sammy's gonna need something to do,
and then after that's blood Lines. I think Jay's like
next three to five months or planned out that you
don't have to do him in gnther. I think him
and Gunther could be like a potential Rumble program. I think,
even if it's not seen, I could even I could
even see them do that at Mania, just to get
the whole yeat and he's going for the championship. But
I think maybe he's the guy to beat Braun. As
weird as it sounds, but I think like that could
be a guy. But no, there's also a chance that
the users just get back together and they're a tag team, right,
you never know, So I don't think he's gonna go
to Gunther. Yeah, I don't stay at least until Rumble,
I'll say, I think he'll stay clear from that because
it's a virus series.
Speaker 3: He'll clearly probably be on team Roman.
Speaker 1: And as people will point out, Roman's a free agent,
so he can go show to show. So I can't
wait to see the pitch there. But yeah, what do
you think s bubs for showing of a Damian prese.
He's set for success here. He's gonna be like or
is he just gonna be in the fucking Andre Giant
Battle Royal come time WrestleMania, you know, like that that's
the trajectory I could see him. He's he's there with
the trophy and he's al battle royal or whatever.
Speaker 5: You know. No, I think this was really good.
Speaker 4: I think this run really helped them, despite like the
start of it people thinking like it won. I think
I think at the time maybe he wasn't acting like
the credible champion, but I think the defenses and the
whole story of him like wanting to win without like
the judgment day just interfering and all his matches what
kind of goes around though he lost because of Judgment
day interference, in the end, I think that really worked.
And I think he's a great wrestler, and like I think,
just it's it's good to have just like another guy
who can just like kind of go toe to toe
with Gunther, just like in terms of like power level,
I guess.
Speaker 1: And he's tall Gunther too, so it's like he like
not that Gunders looks small, but just it's not towering.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think I think one of the calls from I
think Cole was like you never see Gunther flying around
like that, like yeah, just like throwing around Goodther and
like he does that hurking RNA now, which is like
crazy for his height.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was surprised when Gudther when they're setting up, like,
how's cool they're gonna take this, and he did it.
He just I know, just a summersault. But it wasn't Yeah,
it wasn't like a fan It was just like a fault.
And I was like, Gutha doesn't usually take stuff like that,
but he did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like when does good there take like like bumps.
Speaker 3: Hurking ra or poison.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next to them taking poison raanas from somebody. But yeah,
so we'll see. I think we're still okay. So I'm
gonna say Finn at Bash, That's what I'm going with.
You guys think for gun third Bash.
Speaker 5: Finn, Yeah, yeah, I could. I could see Finn do.
Speaker 1: A classic Battle Royal and he just gets the way
because like he did, just like Gunther just beat him
on Monday.
Speaker 4: Right, they can do like number one contender match, probably
they could do those.
Speaker 1: They love doing those, like series of fatal fours or
triple threats. Right when they do like three triple threats
and then it's a triple threat that's a triple h Like,
like I feel like he doesn't want to always do
tourneys because like TK gets like memed Off for I
always doing another tournaments.
Speaker 3: I think she's like, well, I like like mini tournaments.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not doing a full tournament.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's a lot of like qualifier matches. Yeah,
but I think if you tip those and put them.
Speaker 4: Into a bracket, it would pretty much be a tournament.
It's a tournament that puts the three people in there,
so it doesn't so it doesn't look like.
Speaker 1: Yes it Yeah, it's something a little bit different. So yeah,
we'll see after the Gold mat to be and show.
We had Braun versus Sammy's ay, and you know, I
I hate this. I hate that those because that report
came out because it was like a thing, right, I
can't remember who put out.
Speaker 3: There's one more credible people.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, the idea is Triple just didn't want
or you know, creative whatever. I'll just say creative didn't
want Brown to win at Money ban because someone went
on a big show.
Speaker 3: Then just fucking way to the big show.
Speaker 1: Then just they should have last month just gave us
like Sammy versus Dragon Off, have a good match, Sammy
wins it. I I didn't mind the story of Okay,
Braun didn't take them seriously. Here we go, but I
just it was just odd. So I do think it Bash.
I think they're gonna do the the the trilogy. I
think Braun, they'll do a longer match this time and
bron will win this. But I also just had problems
with the match psychology wise, where if you're gonna do
which I did not like, if you're the match was
five minutes and forty seconds, if you're gonna do that,
have Braun just kill him right away. So the fact
that Broun goes for a spear to begin the match
and he hits the post and I don't know what's
happening Rhea Naya Braun. I think there's no one too many.
No one talked like, hey, what body part you're selling tonight,
like that's an agent's job.
Speaker 3: There's three matches where all them like, oh, my shoulder.
So to me, Broun hits that shoulder, he's selling it
for the half the match with just two minutes, and
then he hits Sammy with two spears on that shoulder.
So it makes no sense in the match where he's
supposed to dominate Sammy, don't have him with the injured
shoulder because like that should be Oh, this is why
Sammy's kicking out because Broun's shoulder is not working as good.
It's weak. So I just wish that match started.
Speaker 1: He hits him with a spear and then you do
like maybe five minutes of Sammy's trying to come back
and he just can't and then another spear. I'm done.
So I didn't like the time limit, and I just
also didn't like the what was done in the five minutes.
I get they wanted Braun to have a big moment here,
but I just wish they didn't do money in the bank.
Then I felt like, I I agree with people. Now
that is one christm with tripleh With this with Otis,
there was another example I was gonna use where he
sometimes just misses the like the peak of the moment, right,
and I think that's something where he just needs to
work on, like hit with the Irons heart Like Otis
and Gable they had like a mini turn, but he
never got that big moment of Otis pushing him down
and beat him up. And now it's like, well, okay,
it kind of happened. Same thing with Braun. It was
like all right, it was just and it's fine with
being predictable. Sometimes that leads to a good story, but
I think there's almost over predictableness, and like I said,
I'll try and think of it. But there was another
occasion this past month where it's like they just missed
the boat on that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just wasn't a fan. That's good for Braun.
This should have happened a month ago.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, so wasn't a fan of the length,
wasn't a fan of the decision, wasn't a fan of
the actual match because I just think it didn't make
sense for what they're trying to pull off.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that if if you were going
to do this shoulder injury at Angle, and I totally
agree with you, like the agents should have been like, hey, this,
this is the body part for our match. This or
the spots for our match.
Speaker 1: And that's real spot because she's coming back from a
shoulder injury. So no one should be like pick a
different body part today, you know, So if you.
Speaker 2: Are going to have him work a shoulder, then it
should have been a situation where the commentators mentioned this
Chiuldern like hey, that's his spear blah, blah, and then
he hits the spear from the other side and they
make mention, Okay, that's how he could finally pin him
he switched sides. If he did that, okay, yeah, but
it was just it was normal. And again, so if
you would have had Sammy come out the gate, hit
a halluvak, hit, a couple of moves make it seem like,
all right, Sammy's got a chance in this, and then
after that, bron just dominates him for the next three
to five minutes. I'd been like cool, perfect, Yeah, that
fits this match. There was way too much back and forth,
way too much. This was not a match that I
needed wrestling psychology on. This is a match that I
just needed bron Breaker to be bron Breaker and get
that title.
Speaker 3: In U s Bubs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought this match it definitely like like when
it ended, I didn't even notice. I was like, oh
it's over.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was so quick because I was just coming
off the stream and I saw them entrances like okay,
I'll get to see this, and by the time I
sat down the glass of water, it was like on
the next match, I was like, that's why I messed yous,
Like how long.
Speaker 3: Was this and I saw someone be like they just
squashed Sammy in five minutes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, like honestly, like it was just
like a forgettable match, like I think, and the Money
in the Banque too, Like I think these guys are great,
but just their matches together have just been like I
don't know, not that they're bad, but it's just like
the way they've just been done.
Speaker 5: It's just been weird because it's.
Speaker 4: Like they want him to squash Sammy, but Sammy's built
up too strong to be squashed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so like we can't really have them just fully
squash him.
Speaker 3: They should just let him go in there.
Speaker 4: It kind of like the Money in the Bank one
was like pretty much the same thing, but like the
other way around, like because because this one was like
because the Money in the Bank one was like bron
thought he could just like easily beat Sammy, so then
Sammy just like beats him.
Speaker 5: And then this one like Sammy was prepared and yeah, and.
Speaker 1: That's after the whole promo before it's like, yeah, I
guess that's what we're supposed to take it.
Speaker 5: He's distracted. I mean the video package they did here
is like taken from one of those like maybe.
Speaker 4: It was like a like one of those they post
on online because I remember watching that whole bron it's
pretty much saying like like you're too focused on everything else,
like with teaming with Jaye and your comedy show, because
because the the point of the promo is like, yeah,
you're too busy with the comedy show and now I'm
gonna make a joke.
Speaker 5: Out of you.
Speaker 1: Oh god. Yeah, So I think it's I think the
other reason for me it's kind of a bummer. I
just wish they maybe aren't raw. Let them go out there,
just do an NXC Black and Gold made event where
it's just like just forget.
Speaker 4: For like a night with Dragon Off, Like when Brunna's
matches with Dragon Off, they go.
Speaker 1: Like twenty five minutes and they forget.
Speaker 5: Like that's I feel like that's phintly that I see
match at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still think there's money too, and I want
them to do a triple threat match with those three.
I think that would be tons of fun, and I
think that's what they to me. I wish I kind
of did was like kind of some reverse where it's
like a triple threat and Sammy gets and then Braun
gets away and then you know, Braun gets the next
one you get to. But like, I wish they just
did that where it's okay, we're just gonna for this match,
forget that Braun is like sometimes a squash machine and
we're just gonna let him and Sammy go in there
and just go bell bell, and that's I think maybe
they should have saved it for all or done it
at money in the bank. But I think for me,
it's just like annoying because they had, like Sammy ended
Gouther's rain. I think for Sammy's run, this is such
like a just far in the wind, like it feels
it's one of those things where're like, who beat You'll
you'll remember how Gunther lost, but you won't remember how
Sammy lost. Oh right, they did money. It's like very muddled,
So I don't like that. That's kind of the sequel
to Gunther's run. It just kind of like, yeah, it's
just back to being like the icy title lost in
five minutes.
Speaker 5: You know, there's a Twitter account I really like which
is called like I forget.
Speaker 4: It's called it's either like forgotten main events or forgotten matches, Yes,
where they just post like these random pay per view
matches that like people just don't remember and then the comments.
They put a poll where it's like do you remember
this match?
Speaker 5: Yes or no?
Speaker 3: And this will be one of the things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like these random Like it's like Austin
Theory and Gable and Otis versus the Street Prophets and
Matt Riddle was a review match.
Speaker 1: Like when I saw when I saw months ago. I
think it's when Joe's champion. Aw, it's like Joe and
ray Mania, because they did a two minute match at
Mania where Rag Gone there hit him a bunch and
then Joe just choked him out. But it was one
of those like right, they had a Somojo and raymstereer,
which sounds like a dream fucking match at WrestleMania. It
was just Joe squashing them. It's like, right, that happened,
and that's where this is.
Speaker 3: It's it's odd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think part of it was so they had
the legends there and they really wanted that whole shot
of the Steiners celebrating and things like that. Now, what's
funny is I heard that they had They're passing around
sheets backstage everybody with basically a eight of the legends,
who's who and everything else. I'm like, that's kind of
said that for a lot of your wrestlers, they have
no idea who these people are, so you had to
give them a reminder, Hey, this is multiple time champion,
this is this process that person.
Speaker 1: Pay your respects because I think it is working out.
You look at tiff and you look at Braun. There's
other people in XT but they're going back to a
lot of the like pro athletes or people that were
trying to be pro athletes, like hey, try wrestling or
like a double So there are a lot of people
that don't even Cody said that, like I don't know
if Tiffy knows. He's like, oh I apologize. Maybe she does,
but it's like and that's to me, that's fine, but
it is funny where.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the line in the in Bailey's pro against
Stiff He's like, when I won money in the bank,
I don't think you even knew what WW was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, So yeah, we'll see
Broun's gonna have some success here and then even then
maybe maybe that's another MANI match if they don't want
to give seen his seventeenth they can give him his
first IC title.
Speaker 3: And I can see Braun and same thing.
Speaker 1: I can see Peak Supersena coming out for a night
to master against Braun. And then because I think with Braun,
I think they have at least I guess that's one
thing of the SAMMI. They showed that he can get cocky,
so I think that's how they can paint off a
loss in the future. That he gets all these wins
and he gets arrogant.
Speaker 3: He think he could.
Speaker 1: Destroy John Cena and well, actually no, John Cena somehow
hits them with it a AA from the top rope.
It's one of those things, you know, so I can
see it. Now Braun goes for his fucking Franken Syren.
He goes to shoot up and then I'm seeing I
get some and he hits him and you know, everything
like that, which it was Cody.
Speaker 3: That's another spots being used.
Speaker 1: Cody, Braun, and Ellie Knight there they all did like
the run up the ropes one and then that was
like another word like I'm seeing this a lot tonight.
Speaker 3: But after that we had Logan Paul versus l A.
Speaker 1: Knight.
Speaker 3: Uh David what do you think about this?
Speaker 2: Like I said, I wanted Kevin Owens to just take
out m GK and I just think, you know what
a Logan Paul match, You're you're gonna get some so
I use term loosely celebrity interference. You're gonna get that
whole thing. You're going to get an outside spot with
the prime card. I just felt like this was a
normal match, which is weird because as much as I
dislike Logan Paul as a person, he has been putting
on good matches. He's been putting on memorable spot matches,
and I don't really think there was a memorable spot
in here other than La Knight dropping him with that
top rope brainbuster. Like past that, there wasn't really anything
that sold this match as a great match.
Speaker 5: There was.
Speaker 2: You had to do this switch with the title now
because if you don't, you're going to lose a lot
of momentum with La Knight. This is one of those
where you don't want to be in ot. You don't
want to be some of the others where you just
go just past the mark and then do it, so
they had to do it now. I did find it
funny that this was supposed to be Logan Paul's hometown
and he got booed on his come out and he's
sitting there going I'm home, I'm home, as the entire
crowd is just straight booing the piss out of this man.
So that brought me an immense amount of joy.
Speaker 5: That's like a dom in his hometown. I think that
was the raw day one that was the same thing.
Speaker 4: They were booning, like like probably the loudest out of
any crowd that's ever boomed dumb was in his hometown.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, with everything that's been going on with
Logan Paul this week, I'm not going to get into
the politics of it, but he's had so much heat
outside of wrestling that I wasn't surprised that he got
booed in his hometown, which is supposed to be the
we're leaving him having the title for this, but yeah.
Speaker 1: That when we thought when people talked about like coding
him could have made evented like oh Cleveland guy, It's like,
I'm so glad that didn't go that route with the
crowd and like with whatever that happened the past week
with him.
Speaker 4: So another memorable moment of the match I'm thinking now
because I kept seeing people talking about it, the l A.
Speaker 5: Knight just just no cells.
Speaker 4: The brass knuckles you have just finish her two seconds
later and beat slogan fall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I like l A.
Speaker 4: Knight.
Speaker 1: I like it, But that's the thing, like the brass
knocks is like that's like a usually it's like it's
knocked out a bunch of people. It's just I don't know,
it's just it's tough. I feel about that one, like
I'm mixed. I'm not like it's not like the end
of the world because I just say, Okay, power it up.
You had some you know, momentum it like it is
brass nuts. You supposed to sell it.
Speaker 4: Like people they've been like they slowly weakened it because
they've had like they had like Ko kickout of just
like the Lucky punch, and then they had like Randy
Oron kickout of like the brass knuckle punch, and then
I think probably Cody like no soul to the brass
knuckles too, or like gone up like five seconds later.
And then now yeah, La justly no self because it
was such a weird like punch too, because.
Speaker 5: He was like grabbing him and just like him from
the side.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, no, for me, I'm happy the run
is over. Like Logan Paul in general, I'm just kind
of out on especially after stuff last week, but like
I could still you know, put artistside the okay, watch
the performer. I think for me it was just like
it's it was similar how I felt about Roman's run
at the end. The formula was just too much difference
with Roman. There's always some good stories stuff going on,
and Roman's like way better than Logan Paul as far
as like a character wise, right, So for me, it
was just always they wrestled this athletic match, which is
it's not bad, it's you know, there's some good spots
in this match, but then it's just okay, there's some YouTuber,
there's some guy on the side, and then they get
taken up by the baby face and the nuts find
a way. So it's just the formula was just way
too much over and over and I just think that
there's not kind of similar to another run we'll talk
about later. I think with this run, he held it
and I know there's like, oh reports are people are
very happy what he's doing. It's like I guess because
like he has the United States title on his podcast
and it's there, but I just didn't feel that it was.
Speaker 3: I just didn't feel that the United States.
Speaker 1: Title got like elevated, and he like to me, it
did end up feeling more like it was a scratch
for the back for Logan Paul versus WWE, and I
just don't know. It didn't have like a feud, It
did not have a I guess this was probably like
the most memorable few out of it, but I didn't
have that one story where it's like, Okay, this was
it does not even be like riveting but just something
I'm really invested in. It was just okay, new challenger.
They say the same stuff, but Logan Paul that he
doesn't want to be here, he's a part time or
yet da da da. Paul says, Oh, I'm gonna surprise you.
I'm better than anybody that's lace. The Boots has done
this long than the Interference, So I'm happy it's done.
I don't know what they do from here. I know
we're probably gonna get Paul and Sena, like we've talked
about some point, and I do think they are gonna
make Paul go to Netflix because that's what he wanted,
so I think there'll be some trades or something. So
I really like they're like there's like, I that's the thing.
I guess, wait he does it. I understand, but like
and as talented as Logan Pole is, there's no like
program I'm dying to see. I'm like, oh, I can't
wait where even for the few matches he's had, Like
I'm more excited about Bad Bunny coming back at some
point than Logan Paul, just because Bad Buddy.
Speaker 4: Like, I think the program people wanted was La Knight
and Logan so yes, there's not really much else.
Speaker 3: And this was fine, but I think like with l A.
Knight like and Peel like that, it got so like
comedic this angle.
Speaker 1: Right of like the Home Invasion was like oh, pining
in your pool like and because the crowd loves that,
but it wasn't like, oh, man, I really want to
see these two fight fight like AJ and l A.
Speaker 3: Knight, which was a good.
Speaker 1: Match, but at least mad okay, it's like a blood
few word this was just he's stealing his truck.
Speaker 3: He's doing like hijinks on Logan Paul.
Speaker 4: Like I thought he was gonna enter like with the
truck like all painted to be like La Knight and
five like with yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or even slimed him or something, but he just came.
They got to get that prime promotions. So yeah, so
I'm excited for l A Night. I'm excited to see.
Speaker 1: Obviously, the first defense should probably be Carmel Hayes, who
again at the press conference, the man won't leave him
alone because if someone asked him a question, so they
go to this interviewer and the interview so how does
it feel to beat l A Sorry Logan pois like, oh,
sound like Carmela Hayes over here, and the entire press
is like, oh, like Carmela was never gonna live down
that fucking You're looking at l A Night in the
mere like, yeah, that's me. I'm like, so I'm excited
for that. But I do think with Hayes, I didn't
catch smack down.
Speaker 3: Did they have him? He beat and rode right, I
imagine what.
Speaker 5: Yeah you can't. He's the speed champion. You can't have.
Speaker 1: You kidding?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he lost, He did the whole mellow won't miss
and then he lost to him.
Speaker 3: Because I saw the problem in like the barbershop or whatever,
and then like he lost.
Speaker 5: Okay, I think he rolled the maybe.
Speaker 3: Still mini rant here.
Speaker 1: He was the number one draft pick for SmackDown and
this guy has been getting fucking geeked out by l
a night he's losing on.
Speaker 4: Like he does.
Speaker 5: I think I saw a single win or something like, well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, he was in money bank, but guess what
happened to money in the bank again on RODDI stoles Thunder.
Everyone was talking about Dradi after that match, and I wonder,
because this would happen. So I don't think so this
would happen.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I feel like a best of seven that they're
they're doing here with like.
Speaker 1: A like a non official one, right yeah okay, yeah,
which yeah yeah, And that's fine, Like from the first
like from what I saw, it look like the chemistry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to watch it, just was busy on
the Friday.
Speaker 1: But to me, with Hayes, they like they're dropping to
the ball, I won't say a little bit, a lot,
and it reminds me a lot of whin in the
Black and Gold there when Triple H would love someone
x T and they go the main roster.
Speaker 3: Vince is like I don't get it now.
Speaker 1: I don't think Triple H is that way with Carmela Hayes,
but I just feel like Sean looks at Carmela Hayes
as like him, like he looks at him and Shawn
Michaels and Triple She's like yeah, like he's a good hand,
like like I. He probably sees him as like a
main eventor because he's drafted number one, So I'm saying
it's not like Vince, but just feels for being the nut.
They should not ever made him the number one draft
pick because I feel like that put an idea, Okay,
he's gonna be a top player right away, and he
just feels like some just random rookie.
Speaker 5: Sign just match on unsmack Dan.
Speaker 4: I saw, yeah, Androtte defeats Carmela Hayes in sixteen minutes
in six seconds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the push.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying exactly, but like I thought it was
gonna be closed, almost like what Jade was getting in
the same way. They've protected her a lot, and he's
a much better wrestler. I thought he's gonna go through people,
but I really don't. I feel like they threw a
bucket of water On Hayes, and if this was the case,
he should just stay in NXC longer because they've really
at least with this, like what what is happening with
Tiffany and Braun, which I got they got there like
earlier than him, but still that's what I thought would
be happening for him, and it's not. It's just he's
around And I really don't know. I don't think they're
gonna have l A. Knight lose the title right away,
So I don't know.
Speaker 4: Having the US title though, like on SmackDown, build that
scene a lot, Like I think the US title scene
is probably gonna be like probably Andry Carmela Hayes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Santa Escovar, good matches coming out.
Speaker 5: You probably put in like Baron Corvin and Apollo Cruise.
Speaker 3: Oh don't no, no no, don't put that on me,
Ricky bo get Corvin out of here.
Speaker 5: I X.
Speaker 4: But if you're wanting people to build to the US titles,
saying like they're probably gonna take the pins for.
Speaker 5: Santacuar and Andraw, like.
Speaker 4: I feel like they're in the scene in the same
way that like like the party girls are in the
raw scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope they turn on drawda Heel because I
think Andrada and La Knight could have some really good potential,
So that's what I hope, and then like leave, don't
do Hayes and l A Knight and maybe make it
that Haze has got that beats l A Knight and
that's like the the you know, his make good for
all this Shade and everything like that.
Speaker 3: But I think they'll do I don't know really what
they'll do right away with Night, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it's you'll probably get like a
multimn US title man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, triple threat at Bash.
Speaker 1: I imagine Bash could just be Santos like you said,
and that's like an easy l Night win and there
you go. But you said I'd be down for some
mid season roster swaps for both Ron SmackDown. I think
you could send some women.
Speaker 5: Like very often, I feel like.
Speaker 1: It's it's random where it would just be like one
year they just tweet out like oh we're gonna do
some changes, and then like will you chanded this this,
And then there's like two years where they don't do
anything like that. So I would like them to do, Hey,
the GM's got together, they want to trade some people
logan going to Raw, they send maybe another woman's wrestler
over to Raw to help that division, and then send
some way some person for l.
Speaker 3: Knight to beat over.
Speaker 1: I don't know, so.
Speaker 2: I think somewhere around the October November time. You know,
they used to be very cautious about it was weird
because they would do the draft in October then right
before Survivor series, so you had all these people who
just went to Raw SmackDown Fight.
Speaker 1: I love Raw.
Speaker 3: I've been here for three weeks.
Speaker 2: So now that they're not doing that, now that they're
doing war games, it makes sense to do kind of
like a mid mid year like ww's mid year uh change,
where you do have some people who come over like, hey,
we brought this person over to handle this situation. Well,
then the next week you see on Raw that they
got somebody else from exchange. You see a couple of
talents get exchanged. Like you don't have to do the
full draft three for.
Speaker 3: Each brand, three SmackDown, freshen.
Speaker 5: Up, a little bit of j for Kevin Owen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do something like that again. And that's what I
think both like a few scenes will need some change up.
That's how you can get Jay to smack down for
some like just fall and Bloodline stuff, right, because we'll
get to just do the trainmack.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do Jay and Sammy a SmackDown care Raw.
So again he's never with Sammy. It's like, what the hell,
because that's something like we'll get there.
Speaker 1: But there's three times where the crowd was wanting Jay
us in the main event and that did not happen.
Speaker 3: But everyone out of every other than Roman, which I
think every like.
Speaker 5: In the press not but like the kickoff show.
Speaker 4: I think yesterday people were just like when when Rio
was out there, the whole crowd were just like eating
the whole time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like that's what I guess.
Speaker 1: You got those tag tails, right, I was gonna say,
because if Sammy and j they might spend a little
longer there. That's why it would have been at this point,
I would have preferred them just keeping the tag titles
like the women's where they could go over, because you
could have Sammy and Jay win and then they stay
on Raw, but then they go back and forth to
fight with Bloodline everything. Because the tag title scene to
me as a fucking right now, we'll get to that
later on but in the main event, other than Roman,
the person they won out there, they weren't chanting for
Randy Warton, they weren't chaming they wanted They weren't even
chaning for Sammy. They wanted Jay out there to help Cody.
People still like that Cody Jake an extra. So it's like,
you gotta get him back on SmackDown. I think you
need to like you or make it that he can
go between both shows because people want him in this story.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I show like this a pay per
view where you have cross promotion between the two brands.
This has been a perfect time too, Yet bring in
a Jay, Like I love Kevin Owen's okay, yet throw
him in there. I really didn't like if you had
to swap one, I would have swapped out Randy for
Jay and had Ko and j be the people who
come out because they're more They're more fun and more giving.
Or if you did bring out Hikuleo, which everyone thought
that this could have been a chance for him to debut,
then yeah, you have Jay also, So I yeah, miss
miss opportunity, not having Jay, not having the entire crowd
you I mean, you are going off about how huge
this crowd is and how it's an American record for
Summer Slam. It's been perfect time to get you eat
on well.
Speaker 3: And for me, I think Randy was having too much fun.
Speaker 1: I hated that Randy's coming out to save Cody and
he's like slapping the hands with all the fans. It's
just like man, like your boy's about to lose the
world title, like get in there, like like making.
Speaker 2: Jokes about how long the ramp is. He's like, I
go this way, this way, just like I.
Speaker 3: And that's how I do wonder.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm tarry in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do wonder when we get the Cody versus Randy,
like I think he does. But I sometimes look at
Randon like do you got the heel Randy?
Speaker 3: And anymore?
Speaker 1: Because I think he's just been having too good at
time since he's been back, and I think he's just
like there to like enjoy the thame thing, like you.
Speaker 4: Have the like Cody Randy match and it's like this
Randy and at the end he turns heel or something
like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that, and I hope that he
can get there and get fully back to that mode
because I just the happy.
Speaker 3: Go lucky Randy Ordan, which is fine.
Speaker 1: I'm finding him to be a bayfac and do that,
but it's just like he does just look like he's
just there to interact with the fans, which is great
because you think he knows Okay, he's got You think
he said he is like a under five years left
or something like that, so I think he knows kay.
He's kind of on his way out and not soon
but in the near future, so I think he's enjoying it.
But it's just it's just funny that they're just killing
him and stuff. But we'll get there, and to me,
this is the same thing as Logan Paul another run
nigh Jacks defeats Bailey. This one exactly how I said,
I told you they're gonna wait on that Tiffy. They
just got that briefcase. They got to sell those. And
I actually liked the which I think their Tiffy's gonna
say otherwise. But I like that they're playing off as oh,
she pretended to cash and just distract Bailey. I don't
know if Tiffany's strand as the character feels that way,
but her running with that I think is a good idea.
I think Bailey and I have like a I think
better match than I thought. I think on Bailey did
that power momb spot. The crowd was alive and I
had like a good energy to it. Bailey's just always good.
But again, I guess this was like the definitive feud,
but I just didn't. I wish there was another feud
in the middle. It just felt like all I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna remember is her beating EO and then her losing
to Naya and not much in between there. I think
it was.
Speaker 1: It was all right, It was an all right run.
Matches were always good. Bailey does a good job.
Speaker 3: She's a great She's always talented in the ring, and she's.
Speaker 1: Someone I worry about Damien now where I just like,
what's she gonna be doing at Many and what like
is She's just gonna get thrown in a tag team
with Naomi and that's what they're gonna do. Like, I
feel like that's the route they're gonna go. So I
wish she got one bigger story.
Speaker 3: Before the Naya Jack's loss.
Speaker 1: But good, good match nonetheless, and I think Nia will
have a run until Tiffany Cash is in honor, you know, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were. Tiffy and Nijacks were hilarious in the
press conference with their whole act that they got going
on there, SD thing and everything else. So the turn
when it happens is gonna be great. But yeah, I
knew the minute she got that custom money in the
bank briefcase, I'm like, yeah, she's holding on for at
least three more months.
Speaker 3: I love that it's like a bag. She has the strap,
so it's like a purse. That's so cool. That's such
a good touch to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, yeah, Pluggy, how long do you think
until if she catches in like Survivor series.
Speaker 3: I think it all depends on what.
Speaker 1: I have to see what they do with war Games first,
because if it's like a War Games with them, I
even though I want them.
Speaker 4: To do because they tease that last year with Damien
because they said, like if he cashed in on the
War Games match, Yes.
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. Yeah, or even if it's
directly after I would I would like it.
Speaker 3: In the middle, I'd like it.
Speaker 1: Let's say it was Team nine versus Team someone else,
Tiffany cashes in, wins the title, and then just leaves,
and then Team and I also loses the match, Like,
I think that's like a double like f you, But
at the same time that it's tough because Strat becomes like,
unless I want to be a babyface, She's an instant babyface, right,
So I think it could be nigh and they do
the teases, but I could also see them do a
situation where whoever the babyface that finally beats Naya, that's
when Tiffy like cashes in on a hurt one. But
I love the war games scenario, whether it's during or
after the war Games. I think that'd be great for
whoever the champion is to be hurt. So I think
for me, I can't decide until I see what the
wargames matches, because if it's a raw war games, then
I don't think. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I really don't know when it could be.
Speaker 1: It could even be the.
Speaker 5: Wrong since SmackDown is probably like the bloodline.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're right, yeah, yeah, I don't mean you.
Speaker 4: Could either way, like you like. I think last year
both of them had like a mix of people I think,
or maybe not.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: The Women's I can't remember, yeah.
Speaker 5: Because Becky was on the Women's War Games team.
Speaker 1: Right, and they did that hurt Charlott getting back together, right,
I remember. I So my prediction I think when Tiffy,
so unless there's something different, if they do it double
like it's just all women in war Games, I think
my prediction is they're gonna do it at Around the Rumble.
Tiffy's gonna be in the Rumble, lose the Rumble, and
because that's like her not last chance, but like she
could mate event WrestleMania.
Speaker 3: I could see like the Women's Rumbles starring the.
Speaker 1: Show she's in the final four, loses, and on that
same show she cashes in, because I think that would
be a good character motivation of like even like her
as a brat of like, oh I didn't win the Rumble,
fuck it, I'm just gonna go cashing on whoever the
champ now is, and like I'm punching my ticket to Wrestlemanta.
Speaker 4: People like say, it's like if you're the money in
the bank, why would you even enter the the Rumble?
Speaker 5: But I guess like that can work. But yeah, she
just loses them then just catches in after what.
Speaker 3: I've always wanted.
Speaker 1: And they did this a little bit in aw but
they don't have a money bank contract. It's remember when
Lucasaurus won some stupid like he gets the title shot
at any point Edge one just yes, right, But what
I want them to do at some point is I
would love it for someone that has my own bank
to win the world title still the briefcase and then
like their first defense, lose it, but then cash right
back in and get like.
Speaker 3: I've always been waiting for them to do that. They haven't.
Speaker 1: So when they did that Mini Lucca, and I'm like, oh,
I hope one day they do that where Christian loses
it and then he had this contract cash in and
just gets it right back, Like I hope someone does that.
And I don't think they would do that with Tiffy,
but I really want that at some point that because
they they even the first time with Edge he had
a world title match against Batista and almost won it.
The deal was find out of the Christian. Christian was
gonna help with me. He said, if I win it,
I'll give you the briefcase, which never made sense because
why would you give them a precase cash in? But
that's where it's like, I I hope we at one point,
see we're a World Champion even seth remember they.
Speaker 4: You just have like a really like like an Ova
Femi who win it and then he just like gwins
the title and then yeah, it still has a briecase
there's some other titles shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope that happens in the future, but I'm
gonna say that's my prediction is Tiffy loses the Rumble
does really well, wants to punch your ticket. I know
people say, like, oh, why not Chamber, wait till then
you could, but I just like, there hasn't been a
cash at Rumble, and I feel like that's gonna be
a bigger crowd than wherever Chambers. I don't have they
announced for Rumble is this year yet. Rumble indianapolisis okay,
and it'll probably be like another big stadium show, so
we'll see it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they haven't announced Rumble yet, okay, so not Rumble
Elimination Chamber.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that'll be something.
Speaker 4: There's any rumors for that, like like I think for backlash,
I'd heard like backlash of the rumors like Italy.
Speaker 1: I think, right, yeah, Chamber, they'll probably go to somewhere
non America, so that would make sense.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they did the I know ar rumbles in
Indie because they did the whole announcement about three they're
getting a WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: Saudi contract for four years.
Speaker 2: Maybe what did you guys give up?
Speaker 4: I wonder if they do the like WrestleMania London deal,
maybe you do elimination chamber like in London as like
because they want multiple like shows.
Speaker 3: Would you do them back to back though? Like that
though Chamber and then Mania not back to.
Speaker 5: Well no, because this like uh, this WrestleMania deal I think.
Speaker 3: Is or no, oh you mean this year?
Speaker 4: Sorry, I see Indianapolis when they get SummerSlam in like
two years. Yeah, so they get like rumbled now maybe
that's something with London WrestleMania, like yeah, we'll give you
Chamber now and you get WrestleMania like three.
Speaker 1: You can see that or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they get the rumble. I know, they get
the rumble this year and then so they're doing it
at the big statement Lucas Oil and then they're getting
like all that week's wrestling will be in and around
Indianapolis and the outlying cities and then same thing. They're
gonna get a Summer Slam in a WrestleMania to be
decided later.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I think SummerSlam is locked in twenty twenty
six and then they get a WrestleMania at some point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that that makes sense.
Speaker 1: So and I think you're gonna see a lot more
of those kind of multi year dear deals with the
company because not that I think nobody's gonna have a dip,
but it kind of works for them because like in
three years, like well if the probably is dipped or
like attendance or something like that, it's like, well, doesn't matter.
They got their money already, right, So it's like it's smart,
and I don't think it will. I think they got
lots of stars and stories that for the next few
especially with Netflix, and I trust Triplate You're a lot
more like I don't get me wrong, I got qualms
about how Triple Ah does things, but this is infinite
better than it was five years ago. Like my qualms
are just because like there's certain things the next he
would do that are like he I almost have like
no notes for him in an x T where it's like.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is ten out of ten.
Speaker 1: Every time we're here, but I do get because the
main roster. But yeah, I think with him leading in charge,
I don't see a massive dip. I see ebbs and
flows where okay, maybe things are down right now as
far as like there's nothing too hot, but I don't
see anything to the point where like turn off your TV.
Why so only thing I want to turn off? Not
really but fucking cephrons. Man, So we got Drew versus
seeing punk and I said after Mania, he said it.
I think in the discord and WrestleMania that after what
we've learned about Seth than what he did and even
just characterized what he did for coding like I could
never despaired cephrons again, Cephrons at one point when my
fair wrestlers in world not a fan of the visionary
revolutionary top bellt before right, But I'm okay, I can't
give this guy any more crap. So I'm not gonna
give him too much crap. I'm just gonna give booking crap.
Of I stand by what I said. The first five minutes,
he's sitting on the ropes. The crowd multiple times sings it.
I feel like it was a distraction. The ending did
work of I love the bracelet thing. I like a
lot because I've seen something like oh it's just a
bracelet's like, it doesn't matter, it's what it signifies, right,
And I think it was a great reveal of Seth
picks up, puts.
Speaker 3: It on and Punk season with it and like what
are you doing? Like so it did work.
Speaker 1: So I just wish that either they told him, hey,
lay out and call it kind of down the let
them be loose but called down the middle until the
ending and then get involved, or just do this as
a rematch have Punk because I think Punk.
Speaker 5: And Drew, I think he was calling down the middle
like no, what I meant just playing.
Speaker 1: I met like, don't be like Seth rawlins, don't be
like over the top he's like because at one point
he's like touching his ear like like, don't do that, like.
Speaker 5: Just saying special guest referee. He did that one time
where he was just like a normal referee the entire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have loved that. Do that to start
off the match, and then once because they had that
interaction where Drew was like, hey, this benefits is both
just let me do that. Then after that if he
started saying, you know, what you guys, do whatever you want,
and then going over the top after they both had
some back and forth with him as a ref and
he was just like, f it, fine, do whatever you want.
I would have understood that more. But the fact that
he started off with the oh okay, you guys on this,
I'm just look the other way, it was just.
Speaker 3: It was like five minutes in top yeah, and it
just checked me out.
Speaker 1: And like I said, the crowd was like Punk's slamming
Drew against the steps and they're doing these spots and
the crowds singing, and I get it because, like I
think Drew sometimes sits a nail on the head, like
I do feel like sometimes Seth Rollins does feel like
that guy has to be like, yeah, well I'm here too,
and like the song's the best way, right because people
love to sing it and it distracts things. But I
just I think for me it took away. I think
this could have been the match to your candidate. I
think Punk looked great. He looks the best he's looked
in like thirteen years. Like he looked that he put
on a lot of muscle mass, he lost some weight there.
Speaker 4: Like that line to Seth because he was telling him like,
you're not the center of the the You're not always
the center of the universe, or something like that, and
then funked up of like I may not always be,
but you never are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's not always about me, but it's never
about you.
Speaker 1: And that's where it like sometimes the real life Rollins
character does reflect that, where just it feels too try hard,
And that's where.
Speaker 3: I just wish that this.
Speaker 1: I think this match could been a summertime all timer
like Punk and Brock.
Speaker 3: I think it's considered like now just another step in
the story. It was good.
Speaker 1: I think Drew and Punk had good chemistry. I think
they both sold each other well. It wasn't like any
sand bag or anything like that. Because Punk was posting
some very risky stuff earlier in the day. I was like,
oh man, what's gonna happen here?
Speaker 4: But that's what for me, I think it helps because
at all times you're like you're thinking, like did he.
Speaker 5: Really hit him there?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, oh yeah, he really hurt there. It makes
for good TV. So I think for me it's like
it was a good match. I think the ending was
really good. I think I just I'm always gonna look
at it as like what could have been. It reminds
me a lot of like Davy will remember this where
when they did in twenty twelve seem Punk versus Chris Jericho,
Chris Jericho was the first per se he was the
best in the world, and that's what they built this
feud upon. But then like midway through, that's what Jericho
and Punk one dude just who's the best. And then
Vince's like, well, what if we start talking about Punk
being like his family problems and why maybe he could
be an alcohol and all this stuff. So they started
bringing like your mom doesn't love you, your dad was
a drunk, and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: So then they did this thing.
Speaker 1: Where they made the match like if Punk gets disqualified,
he's gonna lose. So they made the whole match like
punking like I'm not gonna use this chair, I'm not
gonna use the tailor. Where it's like everyone just wanted
them to wrestle, And that's what this felt like, where
it was still good, but I just felt like, do
the stip later.
Speaker 2: Do this at Bash, like just have them getting Jack
Daniels poured on him and things like oh my god, yeah,
straight in she doesn't drink, well, I'm gonna pour alcohol
on you and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It was just said Jericho from a car film going
into a bar being like, Oh, what's Punk up to?
And he was just like meeting a friend, like all
this stuff. And that's where I think they should have
done this match and had the refs get beat to
shit in this match and then, which they did. I
just I wish like the chemistry was there that I
think they could have had a really great just one
on one match. I Wishteff was maybe just on commentary,
and I just I think they missed the ball with
Seth being too much involved in here. But I think
at least they did a good job of reigniting Seth
versus Punk and I'm very excited for that.
Speaker 3: And I also just like curious of.
Speaker 1: Punk hits him with the GTS and I was very
caught off guard why Seth was like reluctant to count
the three count on him on Punk you it was
like they did they reluctant.
Speaker 5: I think it's something like when you hit the ref
and they're like stunned and they have to count.
Speaker 2: That's how the.
Speaker 5: Logic if you're a ref and you get hit by
a Finn.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you have to your brain is slow or
something instant ct I don't think Yeah, I don't think
it's him like purposely trying to slow.
Speaker 2: Don't know. He made a face afterwards, Yeah, he made
a face like I don't want to do this. I
don't like you either, but I'm like, someone's gotta win
this damn match, so you're gonna have to count for
one of them.
Speaker 3: And like, Drew didn't purposely hit you in that way, right,
So it's weird.
Speaker 1: They played it off like the Shawn Michaels Brett Hart undertake,
which was weird when Cole's like shades of ninety seven,
like he's literally just saying like they're doing the exact
same spots.
Speaker 3: It was odd.
Speaker 1: But it was like when Sewn hit take her at
the chair and he reluctantly count. This was the guy
that just hit his finish on me is down and
I'm so I don't know, I'm I'm mixed on. I
think I'll need another rewatch and I'll need and I'll
need to see what the follow up is. I feel
like at Bash they're gonna do Seth and Drew. I
think they're gonna do that first, and then Punk and
Drew at Bad Blood, which is funny if they do
do a helmet cell because Punk didn't like he said
that to that press guy, like, I hope you're not
booking this stuff, so I.
Speaker 5: Think the hell something was first first match?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, I suppose. What do you think about
this match?
Speaker 1: Overall?
Speaker 4: I really liked it, Like I thought it was like
I thought Punk looked great out there. I thought it
was good.
Speaker 3: No injuries, they were good, We're good.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, what else?
Speaker 4: No, yeah, I thought it was good, just finally getting
Punk and Drew, you know, hitting each other in there.
I did like the bracelet storyline. I think that's been cool,
especially I saw like the the girl who gave it
to him, like at a WW world that was posting there,
like her bracelet that she made for announce this big
part of a storyline.
Speaker 1: What else, That's just it's great, like when it comes
off and he finally gets it and then it falls
off again and like it was. There's so good stuff falling.
Speaker 5: Off of people.
Speaker 4: During that rehad live match, Like there was so much.
I don't know if like their outfits were just like
breaking a party like every every time they would go down,
like the refels like kicking stuff out of the ring
and that logan in l a match there, like when
they went to the outsit there were a bunch of
like bottle calfs on the on.
Speaker 5: The floor, like the prime bottles that just like.
Speaker 4: But no, yeah, I thought Seth, Like, to me, it
wasn't distracting really like I didn't really notice the people
singing this song that much, and I thought like this
was how Seth was gonna do it anyway, So to me,
it wasn't really like I was more focused on Punk
and Drew than really Seth was doing. If there's just
a thing where he's just like sitting on the ropes
and stuff. Uh, and yeah, I hope, like I'm excited
to see more like I saw in the Bash in
Berlin advertisement they were sort of advertising that Punk was
gonna be there.
Speaker 3: He'll be the special reference.
Speaker 1: They'll just run it back, They'll do Drue and Sad
and he'll yeah. Because I feel like you got like
at least you got the trajectory of you got Seth
and Drew that's gonna happen. I think you got Drew
and Punk. That's gonna rema rematch you got Drew or
you got Punk and Seth and again, I do really want.
Speaker 3: To do a triple threat at some point.
Speaker 1: I wonder even if they would do that for bad
Blood because there's not too many triple threat which it's funny.
I think the only triple threat Hell and Cell match
see him Punk was in it was him and fucking
del Rio. I could be wrong on that, but I
don't think there's been another one, and I think that'd
be a good way to maybe ensure that Punk doesn't
get like I'm not. I don't also want to every
seem Punk match that he's gonna get injured. I don't
want to be that meme by just being like with
it being a cell. I could see them doing the
three way there, but I don't know. I don't know.
That's why I always thought they're gonna do a three
way for the title, and now with gun through with
the title, I don't know how they get to that.
And I feel like, would they do Seth and Punk
first with fin.
Speaker 5: Punk, Drew and Damien.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it comes yeah, and it comes down it
comes down to those three Yeah, And that's thing like,
would they do a Triple Threat before they do Punk
and Seth solo.
Speaker 3: I don't think so, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like they do the solo first, and I
think Seth still wins that I don't know. I think
I don't know. Punk's gonna have to get a win
here at some point though, But I guess we didn't
even mention, Yeah Drew got the win and yeah Punk,
you know, put him over. You know, I've seen a
lot of fun a W means like he's the real
a W champion now, Drew McIntyre, and it's like someone
like a force ghost version of like hang Man Jack
Perry the Bucks, like watching over his JUW gets.
Speaker 3: Something like there's been some really.
Speaker 5: Jack Perry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, And that's something I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 5: It's times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they use like two times, two times too many.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's I guess.
Speaker 1: I think for me, it's like use it for particular matches,
maybe like the lower card matches, maybe weapon matches, like
seeing somebody go to the table.
Speaker 3: But I'm not I know, because somebody's like, oh, well,
you don't like it because it's new and you'll get
used to it. I didn't like it at all. I
think that you tell about Seth wrong.
Speaker 1: That took me way more out of just you're in
the middle match than just like and even the one
would live and real, like I know again you shared
the tweet like yeah, there's like there's some fun to
it and like oh, attractive women, but the actual show
them was not good of just like they're like on
top movie.
Speaker 5: Didn't see it, like you didn't see anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the punk one where they like show
the crowd and it was like punk look at the like,
I don't know, and if they're gonna use it like.
Speaker 5: That photo people always post reponks.
Speaker 3: Like the camera.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if they're gonna use it, I'm fine with that,
like to be.
Speaker 4: In the match.
Speaker 5: The GTS, I wonder if they wanted that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want yeah, And that's.
Speaker 5: And I think or something like motiv.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, when you use the ref camp to
me is when the guys are down to do instant
replay like oh, let's see that from the rest respective
I think when they use it like no warning just
to cut.
Speaker 5: The rest to justify like the referee decision.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, this is what the ref saw.
Speaker 1: He didn't see Gunther's get his leg put there like
I think there's after the match an instant replay. Those
were the same thing. Seth gets hit with the GTS
and then while they're down, Oh look what happened. Could
you imagine if Punk picked them up and they just
went to his angle and you didn't even see you
Just like that's where it's just like, it's a hard
it's a I get what they're trying to go for.
Speaker 3: I just think they're gonna use it. Better test it
out like not at SummerSlam.
Speaker 5: Give it run for, and then call it up to
the main roster.
Speaker 3: And I thought that was the rumor.
Speaker 1: It was gonna be just NXT first and then go up,
but they just decided to test on the second biggest year.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I heard a lot of people say
that that was their biggest complaint was that it should
have been used on a different event a couple of times,
gotten used to it, and then we go from there.
Maybe use it on one of these NXT shows that
we've been having or something.
Speaker 4: They are gonna use it on NXT probably that's the
the orange and white brand. You see the logos now orange.
Oh I didn't see that yet.
Speaker 1: They should get one on Joe Hendry when he's doing
his concert. You know, get a perspective.
Speaker 3: You can see hiss right in front of him.
Speaker 1: So and so what do we all? So I'm saying dreath, dreath,
I'm saying Drew and Seth at Bash?
Speaker 3: Do you guys agree?
Speaker 1: Do you think there's something else at Bash? Yeah, that's
what I'm saying. I'm saying Punk it's a month off,
but he's still around.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I could see that, sure, I could see yeah, but
I really don't know.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, like I said, I don't want Drew
and gum Thor. And then Punk fucking screws you again.
We're done with that?
Speaker 3: And then bad Blood.
Speaker 1: Do we just think it's Drew Punk rematch where Punk
it's the wind embrace it back?
Speaker 3: I guess right?
Speaker 5: I think so?
Speaker 2: Just yeah, there's Punk's gonna have to get a win,
and he's gonna have to get a good win.
Speaker 5: Yeah, at least I can't say he's punk Hogan though, for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and do we think so is Seth and Punk?
Do we think we get that before many? I think
they're gonna say that for Mania. I have a feeling
they're gonna stretch it out.
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I think that that's a manium match. Yeah,
that's definitely a manium matcher. They're gonna save it for
that and unfortunate.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna night one main event though
now like last year. So unless they find a way
for Gunther to like you know, lose Someway. But I
just I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's Seth versus Punk versus g versus Sina.
Speaker 1: I don't think Sena, even though it would be funny.
I thought at one point there was a main event
where it was Drew, Seth, Punk and gun Throat. I'm
still not not convinced they could do that with a
few things, but yeah, throw scene in there. They can
make them, not even they'll make them pin Punk Punk
will take one last them. Yeah, tears both the squads
in the process. Seen ever event seen a retirement tour
is over. Okay, finally we got Cody Rhodes versus Solo
Socoa Longs match at twenty nine minutes.
Speaker 3: M Like I said, I always shareed a bit in
my opening. I felt like this was a.
Speaker 1: Discount version of the WrestleMania one. I think, like Aspo said,
they didn't even brawl like they started using weapons at
the end, but I just didn't feel like they even
go in the crab.
Speaker 3: And like it just didn't feel like a blood ry
on the rules. It just felt like the last five minutes.
Speaker 1: We want some interferences and we don't want d qes. Well,
just knocked the fucking referee over at that point, you know.
And I think it did help at least because I
feel like people were not excited for this match, and
I feel like after the fact they still weren't that
except I saw so many people which I don't agree with.
Speaker 3: Satan Souls Coal is just a bad wrestler. I will
not go that far.
Speaker 1: I think he did.
Speaker 3: Like he's a serviceable I think he's I want to
say above avers.
Speaker 1: I can say he is good. I can't say he's
gonna be like the best, but like I think he
can go in there. I think him and Roman can
have something, you know, good and even then, I don't
think he's gonna be main in ventor. But they're building
him up the same way they would build up giants
for Undertaker, of like he's gonna have a good run.
Who knows after what happens after Roman. But I thought
the match to me was, uh, it was fine, and
then the interferences, like I said, just didn't have the
same hoodspot because I got a little excited when Arn
was like, oh, I've talked to some people, but it's
like you're just talking the same people Cody's talking, well,
I thought.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna get Randy and Ko and then some surprise.
Speaker 1: Even if it's j I would count that as a
surprise because he's not in the story currently. But when
he's like, yeah, I've talked to some people, it's like,
these are the same people Cody Roseman talking, so like,
who were you talking to?
Speaker 3: That didn't show.
Speaker 5: Oh, Dustin's coming out to say I saw.
Speaker 2: That too, Yeah, and that that thought maybe Ricky.
Speaker 1: Both those were huge, But honestly, I think I think
Dustin still's contract to that. I think Ricky I don't
know what he's like the r O H trios he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fucking yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So I thought this was fine. It was
just building towards the Roman moment. I liked the change
of music. It's something different. I think even then too,
it's like the Roman moment I thought was a little simple.
I thought they were gonna tease him taking out Cody
and then do the swap.
Speaker 3: So I thought there was just like it's just also
too simiple.
Speaker 1: But maybe it's just because we've just I feel like
for the past three months we just yeah, Roe's back
at summer, Slam roams back summer. So maybe it was
just kind of like you just it's like when you
know a big movies come in, it's like, Okay, we're
finally here for it. So I'm more excited for after
the fact, but massive pop and this would have made
Vince McMahon from five years ago jealous.
Speaker 3: I can't believe we're at the stage.
Speaker 1: Where ever, Oh yeah, yeah, it was fantastic, Like that's
where it's just like, it's funny where we got to
that stage, Like where is it here? When we got
that ouah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was all that stuff. It was everything, just as
sure as a rock is covered in chills already. You
can you can feel the Mana. You can feel the MANA.
Never fixed. I never fixed the screen record.
Speaker 1: I have to edit that. But I think it just
is like for me, that was such a full circle
moment of this was a character and a guy that
made myself, of many people be like I'm done with
probably not because of Roman, just the way he was written, booked,
shoved down the throat, and now it's like he is
a genuine you could argue more like Cody.
Speaker 3: Like Cody said the presser, he's like, oh, like, what
do you do with two people? We've never had that.
It's like, was he not watching the restaurant Rock and Stone?
Speaker 5: Hold?
Speaker 1: We're down like we've had the two bay face before,
but like it was cool to see. It's like such
a full circle that he is like a guy that
people love and want to see. And my last note
before I throw it over they're making which I did.
I never liked those custom belts they made like a
custom the one thy sixteen thirteen, like the days he
had and it's a Roman rains belt. I don't like it.
It's like him on there jumping that's red. But they
sold them all out. Those things were six hundred dollars apart.
Speaker 5: I stool say they made eight hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: Dollars in revenue nuts because it was.
Speaker 4: Because there was limited there was exactly a thousand and
three hundred and sixteen of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're gonna make another batch in the future.
Because that was that's a lot of money, and that's.
Speaker 4: They're probably gonna make a second just like overall, like
like original tribal chief belt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like unlimited. But that's the thing, like what
they wanted five six years ago. If him be the
top face, get these reactions, sell the merch. It's finally happening,
and gee, who'd have thunk? Just turn him heel for
a little bit and then bring up like like people
who fucking said that, even Roman antil Vince, like, let's
just do this like it worked for the Rock, let's
do for me. No, no, no, like like but it's
just like to me, last night was like the stamp
of like, man, we've come completely full circle because years
ago people have been chanting for Roman and it's uh,
it's great to see so delivery on that's great.
Speaker 3: We can talk about the blue line stuff after.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Dave, what do you think about, uh the
match overall, some of the interferences, we got Tomatonga and
uh Tongaloa having one swallow a night still fucking Bosha.
I agree with people.
Speaker 3: He has to be doing this on purpose.
Speaker 4: Now, how does he cody the rope where he was
like he's selling the eye patch perfect.
Speaker 2: That that's my only justification is the eepatch. That's the
only justification.
Speaker 3: Like it's just such he's a walking meme.
Speaker 1: Like when he did that, I was like, there's no
way because I'm no, there's certainly he won't screw up
this interference spot.
Speaker 3: And he does, and Cody's gott fucking draped over the ropes.
Speaker 2: And like this is a top time over into the turnbuckle.
It was I'm like, like, this is seriously what we're doing.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Now, the match itself, it was fine. I thought there
was going to be more with the interference. I thought
it was going to be more kind of all over
the place. Jacob Fatu looks like a complete monster, even
if he did get injured. There was a picture of
him afterwards walking around in a boot. Uh so, you know,
I don't know exactly the extent to it. Looking at
it on a replay earlier this morning, it look like
his shin kind of hit on the announced table like
super hard as he did it. So it may just
be a precautionary thing with the boot just keeping him
safe so that he can do more spots. But yeah,
and then I expected Hicicleo to show up, but that
that Roman pop was amazing. I like, I liked Cody's
entrance as long as it was with the coming back
from the bus.
Speaker 4: When I thought I thought he was gonna like I
thought he was like outside the stadium, like how long
is he gonna walk for He's in the bus, like
fifteen minutes just walk here, But he was just parked inside.
But I thought he was like because like when I
when I went to the Rumble, like his bus was
like parked like out back of the the stadium. I
saw it there, So I was just thinking, like, he's
gonna walk all the way from.
Speaker 3: The they have you imagine that Cody haters.
Speaker 1: He gets like a fifteen minute an entrance and yeah.
Speaker 2: Now they had to get Pharaoh his moment, and I'm
glad for Pharaoh to get his moment. I know there
was a lot of toxes like, oh, he's gonna walk
to the ring with Pharaoh. I'm like, not after what
happened at aw and that piral that that ain't happening again,
They're not risking that, especially if this is his last hurrah. Yeah,
he ain't doing that.
Speaker 1: So but again, also people give some context, I suppos
said to tell me at one point I saw this
dog was dying because was like the final time he walks.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, this is so like.
Speaker 2: Dog just wants to be at home with the kid.
The dog prefers to be at home with the kid.
That's it. But yes, that whole it's it's Pharaoh's last hurrah,
like calling it out.
Speaker 1: And we know Coddy when he went down and kiss
Ferry got up, Cody hold hi back tears. It's like,
oh my god, Like what are they tell me his
dogs like on his deathbed and they're like, oh no,
he's just like he just wants to be home, Like,
oh my god, you bass. He was like trying to
make you feel so dramatic there, and then I just
wasn't sure and then arm was just so random.
Speaker 3: He pops up there and yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so but the match and then the rest of
Cody's entrance, I liked, I don't want him to use
that mask for every match, but yeah, bring it out WrestleMania.
Speaker 3: Every Blood rules.
Speaker 5: It's too big. It is a little big, slightly like
more on his head. Yeah, it just looks like a
like a big head mod.
Speaker 1: On what it was like color, So it sounds dumb,
but I wonder if it's that big so he can
like keep his hair perfect.
Speaker 3: I know it sounds dumb.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a Cody thing where if it's too tight,
I could seem getting like it's like.
Speaker 5: It's just easier to put it on and take off,
like you don't have to be doing your entrance atle's
like stuck trying to pull it off or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or if it gets too loose then it's way
I don't know, but yeah, like I like the entrance
and then just going from there, like the match itself,
it was fine. It was serviceable, but it was fine.
And then you had your interference spots. I'm not sure
what the deal was with Randy, and it's just like, well,
I'm here from a Randy spot, but you know, he
did his thing, and but that that Roman spot at
the end was yes, it was great. And then Roman
and Cody staring each other down before Cody goes for it.
It was just like, all right, so what just happened? Like,
I know you're not here for you and I still
have beef, so it was an acknowledgement of you did this,
But we ain't on the same page.
Speaker 5: We just had a beach.
Speaker 4: You get the third Cody Roman match, it'll be like,
no stipulation, just like one on one, like yes, you're
a wrestling.
Speaker 1: Match, which it should because they like up until you know,
landing is still wrong. Guy won. To me, Cody and
Roman thirty nine was going up to be one of,
if not the best main events. I still think it's
one of I'll take that back. I was gonna make
an argument for me the best.
Speaker 5: And I watched it still I still really like. I
think it's an.
Speaker 1: Amazing They got good chemistry and it's a really well
placed match, and that's something where for me, I love that.
I love that when Solo got pinned, Roman looked like
not sad, but just kind of like he had to
do that. He wasn't like he's still happy to screw
them over, but not in the way of like, yeah,
I'm so excited, Like it was like a still he's
her in the family bloodline in a way, but it's like,
well to.
Speaker 2: Show you the the otc point yeah point.
Speaker 1: I like that, And I also like Roman shot Cody
a couple of those fucking classic Roman looks where you
like where it's the thing where it's like it looks
approved but also looks very sarcastic and way where it's
like is he like, oh, yeah, you're the champer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're the champ for now, like like you're not me.
Speaker 1: So that's why I like Roman does these facials where
it's like they're kind of jokey in a positive way
and it's like, Okay, what's this guy cooking up right now?
Speaker 5: Right? And that's funny.
Speaker 4: It's like in the Myra's storyline for this year is
like game this is like it's so word of what
happens in that game, because then that game of the
story is like after like the story is Roman beats
Cody at.
Speaker 1: Wrestling, yeah, no one could beat him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then he just vacates the title.
Speaker 4: So they do like a tournament for the title at SummerSlam,
and then like Roman just returns and spears Cody and
then like your player character pins them and wins.
Speaker 1: So they have the.
Speaker 4: Whole time is telling you like like I made you
champion and like you wouldn't been champion without me.
Speaker 3: So in the game, that's funny.
Speaker 1: They have Cody lose at WRESTLEMANI, but then he wins
it to out SummerSlam.
Speaker 4: So it's like, literally he doesn't win, like, yes, the
title match against your player at oh, I see the
Roman returns and spears him, and then you win the
and like in this story, you're like a nobody. So
like you somehow get to the to the end of
this tournament and then Roman spears Cody.
Speaker 5: And you pin him and you become the champion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's and that's one thing. That's the only critique
I have.
Speaker 1: I wish Solo and Cody were both on their feet
when Roman gone that ring, and I wish it was
like he looked at Cody and then did a cock
to the left and then did it because I was
I would love just a small tease of maybe he
is gonna give it to his family and he has done.
But it was Roman was like he had to get
either quick. He ran there and first he caught that
fisty was he didn't It's like he had a flight
to catch, you know. It was so funny where he
was in there in out very quick. He didn't even
do a press or anything. But yeah, that's what I
That's what I'll ask you guys. When do you think
we will get Cody and Roman three obviously.
Speaker 5: I don't think before WrestleMania.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so either.
Speaker 5: I think some point next year.
Speaker 2: I think it's definitely gonna be by the end of
next year.
Speaker 5: I don't know when whenever.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're doing maybe, if you're doing maybe
next Summer Slam, depends where that is, because that could
also be another like if elimination Chambers not the London one,
I could see them doing like the Summer Slim and
Wembley the people have been theorizing could.
Speaker 5: Happen, so maybe there. I think a full like a
full year from now at the minimum, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think I think it has to be further than
when it actually happens. I think I have a hot
take of maybe never do it. That's my hot take
of leave them just tied forever, because I think it's
like unless it's Roman being done done tag run, Yeah, Yeah,
that's gonna happen. I can't wait for the two man
power trip everything like. That's kind of but like, I
just think there's I think it's tough either way for
both guys to win, because I don't know if Roman
wants Cody to have like the trilogy one. But I
also don't think Cody should be losing because I think
Cody's going to be around longer than Roman, and I
just I feel like you, like I'm actually saying this
won't happen.
Speaker 3: For at least two years the minimum happens. That's my opinion.
Speaker 1: I think it's there's Rome's getting busy with the blood Line.
I still at some point want seeing punk to turn heel,
and we fucking need Roman in a punk like that,
like we need that, We still need Roman in rock like.
I think there's at least two years where and Romo's
not back full time, right, He's gonna be back for
a bit then take another break. So it's like, yeah, well, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think so. I don't think so, David. What about
you when you think, well, you're getting this.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be here from now. I think
he's gonna be next Summer Slam. I think Egg SummerSlam.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think.
Speaker 2: Cody's gonna hold that belt for at least a year.
So you can't do it at WrestleMania. He's got to
face the Rock and he's got to beat the Rock
at WrestleMania next year.
Speaker 1: Which one Cody Roman. You made a case for them both, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So now it's gonna be Cody Rock at WrestleMania,
got hold it for a little bit? Hold so and
then you have them go from there. Well, I say
that not knowing what Rock schedule it what a you know,
sea level movie? He's gonna be putting out around.
Speaker 3: That to oh sea level?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, let's keep her. And I absolutely love
the Rock and I have no problem with the Rocks acting,
but the Rock is very much I make a good
movie that everyone likes, and I ride the high off
of that, and then I make three very not good movies.
But everybody's going on one.
Speaker 1: Four technically, don't forget about technically four.
Speaker 5: Nu Manji three yeah Nuji three?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sorry him and Romans.
Speaker 2: So you know he's going to you depends on if
he's putting out a New Fast and Furious when when
that's coming out? Then is if we see him or not?
So that that's gonna be the the kicker with that.
Speaker 3: What's weird isn't this is like movie podcast?
Speaker 1: But isn't like you not even in the New Fast
and they're just doing neother Hobbes movie like it's super
weird stuff.
Speaker 5: Because the whole Vin Diesel thing.
Speaker 2: He was at the end of the last one he
was in.
Speaker 1: No I know, but I think after that they announced
the Hobbs movie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's gonna be a movie like it was gonna.
Speaker 1: Be like like a bridge movie right in between me
and but then I don't even know.
Speaker 3: But I don't think they ever confirmed movie back in Fast.
Speaker 1: He's back in the Fast family, but I don't little
they ever confirmed to be I think Fastest shooting.
Speaker 3: Soon we'll get our answers.
Speaker 2: But this is gonna be one of those things that
they'll never technically share a scene together.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well he's going for that Oscar next year, so.
Speaker 3: A machine man. So I'll I'll ask you as this.
Speaker 1: Let's say, if the Rock can't do Mania this year,
is there a chance they could do Roman and Cody
again three years in a row.
Speaker 3: Because to me, if there's no Cody's fine, they can
do the Randy story. I think they can do the
Sena story.
Speaker 1: There's multiple stories you could do with Cody at WrestleMania.
What if Roman's not there? What like, what even if
it is Cody Rock, what is Roman doing at Mania?
They can't. They can't do him in soul Mania. That's
way too drawn out. So I just don't even know
what they do. That's why I've always been in the
camp of you do Rock and Roman and Cody can
do senor Randy. So it's like if they're like, if
there's no Rock and let's say that's a plan for Cody,
could we get Roman this year and Cody?
Speaker 3: I don't think so, But I wonder if that's the
break glass, like.
Speaker 5: Like the scoreboard on the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one hundred, yeah, and that would be a
history No one's done three main events.
Speaker 3: In a row, you know, that would be a history maker.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I wouldn't want them to do third in
a lifetime. Yeah, but uh, I mean.
Speaker 1: Bull rope match show man.
Speaker 2: If it comes to that, I I could see them
pulling the trigger if they don't have anything locked and
loaded in ready to go. Yes, what I prefer to
see Rock Roman at WrestleMania. Hell yes, I think that
that would be a much deeper story than Rock versus Cody.
Speaker 1: Like, which is that's just a dig measuring contest, which
is fine wrestlings based on that, but I'm.
Speaker 2: Not invested in there. In them together at all.
Speaker 1: It's like I am but for like I've always said,
if it Rock doesn't want to do them, but like
Summer Slam Rumble survives. He like, I think Cody and
Rock should happen. But if it's like if you only
have one, I think it's Rock and Roman. Like if
that's the option, right, and that's big match for Roman
at Mania where Cody has like three to four options.
Speaker 3: You can do with him at Mania?
Speaker 1: You know you could you could even fucking turn punk
He'll and do a w main event. Do Cody versus Punk?
Like that Cody versus Punk would sell? That'd be you
that would That's like there's so many and well, I wonder,
I guess that's could be could you do Punk and
Roman at Mania?
Speaker 3: I guess that's always an option to write, Like if
they do Seth.
Speaker 5: And Punk with Hayman against All or it's.
Speaker 1: Like a Paul on the Pole match where it's like
who does he go with? Because that would be a
good Judy Bagwell approves, Yes, yeah, she was on a
poll wants and because that's the thing Paul's always like
swapped and then the new person shows up. Imagine if
you have it where Paul's still friendly with both of them,
and it's not even that you have to I guess
you actually could do the heal, the Punk heel.
Speaker 3: Turn of Paul screwing over Roman and all that. Like
there is some I.
Speaker 2: Want h Paul Hayman to walk out with Roman, but
I want to see him Punk to come out with
his I'm a Paul Hayman guy t shirt on.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and then he leaves with Paul Haman. He
walks out with Roman, but then he leaves with Punk.
Speaker 5: Like recreating Versus Live with absolutely Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just swamping it, but like it can work,
because that's the thing. If they feel that, they go, okay,
we can't draw out Seth and Punk till Mania, Like
let's say, okay, well it's just too long, we want
to do it before. Then I could see them doing
Seth and Punk somewhere and then they can do Roman
and Punk at the Rumble, I really do, or at
Mania if they're not doing because Roman needs a big match,
and I don't know if it's not Rock and not Cody,
I really don't know what the play is for Roman
to have a match.
Speaker 2: The only other play is if you do him versus Seth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've always pitched that, right of you know, that's
what we'll get. We'll get Gunther versus Seth versus Roman.
We'll get a shield triple threat with Gunther included. But no,
you could do him and Seth. They've always won that.
Set's always wanted that to be the main which I
don't know if it would be. I don't know if
it has the hood spot for it, but yeah, yeah,
I don't know. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens.
And it really does depend on the Rock. I feel
he's gonna like last year, he's the piece and then
we go from there.
Speaker 2: So I just don't feel that, even with the documentary
and everything else, I don't feel like Rock and Cody
have a strong enough story for Mania.
Speaker 5: Like I'm not. I'm just not.
Speaker 3: Build it very just like you could.
Speaker 5: They could send.
Speaker 1: Mama Roads like they never did the Mama Roads payoff, right,
we never got her slap in the Rock, Like that's
the WrestleMania moment right there for sure, Like I agree,
that's but you can't you can build it up. They
can't have Final Boss Rock come back and it beat
Cody and plus like if Cody's the guy, because if
if if Cody hasn't made him at Wrestleminga with that
title and Rock and Roman, dude, you know all the
detractors for Cody, you're gonna like, see he's not really
the guy. He's you know, it's like Sena and Punk,
He's not the guy. And that's a tough thing. Right,
So it's like, so that's the thing. Cody does have
to MA event one night. So if that's the thing,
I need him.
Speaker 4: These Rock Rock honestly, like they couldn't mean it. Like
his big return matches on Night.
Speaker 3: One still the main event though, right, and then where
was he night too?
Speaker 1: He was in the main event again, my boy now,
same thing he was like, and when he came back
in verse Punk, the rumble had to be like first
match because like Punk and Rock had to be the
main event, you know, which it wasn't like Roman and Sammy.
Speaker 3: Years ago where it's like all that moment. So oh
it's tough.
Speaker 1: I don't and I don't know if you do, like
A I wonder if they I wonder, I wonder if
a triple threat is even possible. I don't know if
I love that with Rock, Cody and Roman, but like
I could see them, I could see them going that
route to be like, we can't decide on one, let's
just do because that was what everyone thought was gonna
happen this year, right when the Rocking backs.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're just gonna do a triple threat.
Speaker 5: Triple the elimination chamber, right right when I ever.
Speaker 1: Thought Rock was gonna work the Aussie crowd. Yeah, Like
I could see a scenario where we get that triple
threat because they just feel like this makes everyone happy.
If like, if Rock only has a couple match, I
don't know. I don't want that really.
Speaker 3: I want that for Seth True and Punk of Entry,
but I don't need that with these three.
Speaker 2: So what I could see realistically happening is if Seth
isn't wholding the World Heavyweight title at this point, which
I don't think he will, then I could see Cody
and Punk being Night one and Roman Rock being Night two.
Speaker 3: Oh do I think I would swap it? That that's risky.
Speaker 2: The reason I say that is because of the Rock.
I think that if the Rock's not going to be
in the title match, he's gonna won the main event Night.
Speaker 1: Two, Yeah, which is the real main event though, and
you like Cody's his brothers, we're gonna see, We're gonna
see sad face Cody when he has to promote that
he's on Night one, you know what, and he's gonna
be pitching why that's should be the biggest match of
the weekend. Everyone's gonna know, oh yeah, you're not a
night too, Cody.
Speaker 2: Setting the tone follow that all. You know that he's
gonna do all that stuff. But I just knowing how
the Rock has been and everything else, I could see
him pulling a thing where if he's not in the
title match and he's main.
Speaker 1: Event Night two, I'm gonna have faith that Triple H
loves Cody Road so much and that's his quarterback. As
Cody Road says that he's gonna piss off jacket, he
had a fucking QB logo in his jacket. He's gonna
piss off the Rock and he's gonna put Rock at
Night one. That's what that is what I hope Triple
H sticks to his guns because I am somebody that
other other than a retirement match or taker streak, to me,
the title, whether it's men or women, one of them
should be going last, especially Cody is the guy, because
I said, I we grew up in the era where
Punk had the title, he was the guy, but John
Ceno Mainavan every pay per view, and I was like, well,
Punk's definitely not the guy, and that's where I want.
If Cody's the guy, he is the title. He has
to go on last. So either Rock has a verse
Cody or he has to take night one. That's what
I'd be I'd be saying. Now he's a fucking member
of the board. So I'm sure that conversation doesn't go
exactly how I just portrayed it, but that's to me
what I want, and I hope Rock would be like, well,
I don't want to piss off the people, So that's
that's that's my hope. So wrestle meaning Sea's gonna be
very interesting. So yeah, and oh and then last we
we didn't talk about Yeah, oh you brought up Yeah,
hopefully Jacob for two is alreadys wearing that boot, which
was weird because like he was hurt, so I thought
the ankle was just hurt so he couldn't get in
the ring. So that was my only hope because like,
if anything, he would just lay there like why wouldn't
he attack Roman, you know, like, why wouldn't he go
out and get him? But uh, yeah, so I hope
he's not too it because if he is hurt, man,
they just won the team titles on Friday. His replacement
would be Toma Tonger, who, as we talked about, is
not having a good run of moments here in WWE, and.
Speaker 2: Keep reminding you that Toma Tongua and Tongaloa are nice
a suffs are changing my background.
Speaker 5: I fit the sign in and the thing like broke
I saw, I saw.
Speaker 3: We were just talking about Jacob right now and.
Speaker 2: All, but they keep bringing up that Tongue and Togo
are former tag team champions and then he goes and
misses another spot like yeah, I'm just like, oh poor guy.
Speaker 1: So they could replace it, I will say again tag
team title being a mess Finn and JD whatever, that's
just like Judgment Day again and now d I Y
twenty nine day run you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 3: Man, Like, man, like what what?
Speaker 1: I just wish they didn't get it then and just
save it for the blah blah. I guess it's something
I am still fine with short reins but that just
was too too short. It was just like I don't know.
So I hope Jacob's fine because I know they got Hiccolo.
I know they got Tama or Tonga, but it's just
I don't know. I agree with people that it's not
gonna kill in the water, but that will really hurt
the blood line if he's like out for an extended
amount of time like that, because everyone's excited about Jacob.
He's great in the ring, and I think it like
if he's for let's say, for some reason, he can't
do war games at Survivor series, that's a huge loss
and they need I don't know what they need, then
they really need to place the call to Duayne and
be like how much money do we get you to
do a still cage match for ten minutes? Like is it?
Just like I feel like again, that to me is
something that's interesting of what is the rock field of
this blood line?
Speaker 2: Think?
Speaker 3: Is he acknowledged Roman?
Speaker 1: Right? So I hope when he comes back the setup
as he is pretending he still acknowledges Roman, but really
it's gonna be well, I don't actually want to see
the rock and knowledge solo. I think it should be
that he like, as I've said before, he should be
the the the tribal chief for like a couple months
and then I don't know what happens, but yeah, yeah,
we'll see Jacob's in a boot. Let's hope nothing too
bad happens to them. So yeah, anything else to say
before we close up this episode? I have the draft here, right, yeah,
so before I spos goes in the draft. So the
so what is that?
Speaker 3: The Bash? Brilin's the thirty first. That'll probably be the
next episode.
Speaker 1: I want to do something for all In, but I
I'm away the weekend of I think all like, I'll
watch them all round, so we'll see. We'll probably just
cover all I think what we're gonna do is just
we're gonna cover Bash and all In at the at
the same show. So that'll probably be that episode where
it will just be kind of a double review and
any kind of other news and everything like that, or
if it doesn't work out, maybe it'll be like an
all In review of a Bash prediction. So I'd say
expect the next Gimmick episode to be somewhere between like
the August twenty fifth and the first week in September
we'll figure that out. But those I was kind of
hoping they are the same weekend because that would have
been great. But so that'll be the next one sometimes
September and then w W doesn't have a pay review
till like October, right, bad Blood, so they're gone for
a little bit.
Speaker 4: So which also yes, yeah, because they usually have one
like in September, so I guess they have one at
the very start of August, one at the very end
of August instead of like middle of August, in the
middle of September.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this was pretty early for exact.
Speaker 4: It's like at the start of October, I think like
the fifth or something. So yeah, this is it's probably
the still same amount of time between them.
Speaker 1: It looks like more this was an early yeah, and
this was like an earlier summer sign I felt like.
And then yeah, okay, so then all out they have
September seventh and then October twelfth, so of course they
got there.
Speaker 3: And when when's Bad Blood again?
Speaker 1: Sorry, I think the fifth the fifth okay, so okay,
something kind of some good in the middle there, so
okay that but like I said, end of August, because September,
that will be the next episode for this, so, uh,
how are we sitting in the draft here?
Speaker 3: Lots of title change.
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I'm actually happy despite me losing a
lot of my my champions. My problem for why I
wasn't getting points is because I had champions who just
wouldn't have matches. So now I'm excited, like, I'm okay
with losing the points now because now they're actually gonna
wrestle and get me points.
Speaker 5: Yes, but it's just like cutting yea, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: So I'll go with I'll start Travis because he's the
most points here. Okay, So you were at two hundred
and ninety nine points this like with this week including
Summer Slam, you had thirty three points with two title
wins and one defense.
Speaker 1: There because it was who do I got here? Because
I got and live live give me those points? Yeah?
Oh right, and I got I got nine now too, right,
I forgot about that, right, Okay, I gotta get an
updated graphic here soon.
Speaker 5: Yeah you had solo. I just added that one, too, good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get my I need those main event bonus points
so okay cool.
Speaker 4: Okay, and yeah, so for bonus points, then you would
have had one hundred and fifteen, and then.
Speaker 5: Four points total for Elton Prince.
Speaker 1: There, okay, thanks, Then me, I have.
Speaker 5: Two hundred and fifty four points.
Speaker 4: Uh, and yeah, I lost Bailey lost their title, Sammy
lost the title, Johnny lost the title.
Speaker 3: To two Days.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then yeah, and so for my bonus points,
I have two hundred and twenty five bonus points. And
then I have eight points total for Tazzala He's back,
He's back good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then David has one hundred and eighty two points
for goon The winning the title. But then Daien lost
the title. But then Tomatanga and Jacob fo won the titles,
but On smacked, so it wasn't double points. And then
Elle Knight won the title as well, and that one
was double points.
Speaker 1: You should yeah, because you're so so for the regular
points as well, you're two fifty. I'm too ninety?
Speaker 2: What it was?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: So Dave, Yeah, I feel like, David, you're gonna start
catch up with gooon Thro and l A Night. I
feel like they're gonna start getting Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that I need Uncle Hotty. Though, to to
actually see something react.
Speaker 4: On bonus points with seven points for Exavier was nice
one one match, negative.
Speaker 1: One for keep on getting beat down well and of
course on rab it seems like Uncle Hottie is not
wrestling right now, so that's kind of a it's the
other people. So I I wonder because remember with early
bray Wyatt, he didn't wrestle for a while. It was
always Harper and Row and so I wonder what's gonna
happen there. So yeah, well, thank you for updating the draft.
There s bubs, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we will be better.
Speaker 1: Okay, K eighteen so we're almost in the twenty twenty
week mark. So well, I'm glad we could do this
right after Summer Slam. So yeah, like I said, next
time we do this, it'll be probably after all In
and then either right before Bash of Berlin or right
after and we'll talk about those two shows and see
what else is going on in the month. And yes,
thank you guys for joining us. Always is a good one.
We'll see what happens we get closer to the fall
and then uh, just before you know it, it's gonna
be like winter and then we're gonna wrestle Mania season.
So it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting to be
on the show while we got to that going on,
so until next time it will not be boring.
Speaker 2: I's see