1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,639 Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of geek 2 00:00:04,679 --> 00:00:08,000 Verse podcast. I am your host, Taylor Field, and today 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,560 I am here for a late night review of b 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,160 Borderlands movie. This is a highly anticipated requested review. Some 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,760 might say, but I'm alone. No one else wanted to 6 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:22,960 take the time of day to see this movie, and 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,920 I will elaborate as to why maybe I should have 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,480 joined them in their footsteps. 9 00:00:28,559 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: Maybe not. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: Am I glad I saw this movie. 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Now, I think as far as 31 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,200 content that is coming up, I'm gonna show the Alien 32 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,400 Romulus review that's coming. 33 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: What else do we got? 34 00:01:32,599 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: The newscasts, lots of stuff. We got D twenty three 35 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,120 dropping this weekend. We'll be covering that a lot of 36 00:01:39,159 --> 00:01:41,439 cool things are gonna be populating from there. But other 37 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,480 than that, I think, yeah, it's gonna be a good time. 38 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,359 So I'm going to get into the non spoilers first, 39 00:01:47,359 --> 00:01:49,760 and then I'm gonna branch off into the spoilers portion. 40 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: Of this movie review. To start it off. 41 00:01:54,799 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't want to say that my excitement was 42 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,120 kind of sellied a little bit. I feel like, seeing 43 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,799 all the negativity around it and the zeros and whatnot, 44 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:09,919 it definitely made me apprehensive going into this theater. 45 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:11,039 Speaker 2: Now, it was a very nice theater. 46 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,199 Speaker 1: They're climbing seats and everything like that, so that was great, 47 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,000 But I was trying to be very unbiased, very neutral 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,719 going into this. There are a few things with the 49 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,479 music that just didn't necessarily stand out. There are a 50 00:02:24,479 --> 00:02:27,039 couple songs that I really really like and it felt borderlandsy, 51 00:02:27,159 --> 00:02:28,680 so I liked that they picked those songs and. 52 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:30,479 Speaker 2: Threw them in. That was really cool. 53 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:34,199 Speaker 1: But my experience personally with when it comes to Borderlands 54 00:02:34,319 --> 00:02:37,400 is I play a little bit of one, didn't play 55 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,800 any three, didn't play any presequel, No Tina's Wonderland and 56 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Borderlandes too. I played the living daylights out of that game. 57 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:50,360 Oh my gosh, me and my friends will be playing 58 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,199 it non stop. I can't remember how many times I 59 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,479 beat in that campaign. It was just the bees knees. 60 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,840 I love that game so much. It was so much fun. 61 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,479 That's kind of what really introduced me to the characters, 62 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,080 because I know, the first one you're obviously playing is 63 00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:10,400 Roland and Lilith and these other characters, and you get 64 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,960 to know clap Trap and so forth. But when you 65 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,919 go into Borderlands two, those characters become and PCs that 66 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,439 you're interacting with, and I think that's just a great 67 00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:24,759 way to kind of keep them incorporated into the story, 68 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:27,919 and Claptrap is just he's always a good time being 69 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:32,560 one of the main characters in those games narratives. So 70 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,800 that's kind of where my knowledge is limited, and I 71 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,159 think that helps because going into this movie, I don't. 72 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,319 Speaker 2: Have that pre existing. 73 00:03:40,599 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: Kind of stance on perspective of what to expect and 74 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:47,520 what my expectations are and what to look for. 75 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: There's a lot of Easter eggs that. 76 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,719 Speaker 1: Kind of go over my head, and that is unfortunate 77 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:52,719 because maybe I don't get to appreciate it as much, 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,400 so that can be a con but I see it 79 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,919 as more of a positive, and I think that it 80 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:02,479 makes me able to enjoy this a little bit more 81 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,159 than the majority of people will. There were people that 82 00:04:07,199 --> 00:04:08,759 were laughing in my theater, and I'm happy to see 83 00:04:08,759 --> 00:04:11,520 that they're mostly laughing at clap Trap jokes, which is great. 84 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:13,400 I think Jack Black did a good job voice in 85 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,000 clap Trap actually really really sounded pretty spot on, actually 86 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,480 like his character from the game, so I. 87 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: Can definitely appreciate that. 88 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,399 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of things. While I said that 89 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:27,959 I'm not familiar with the backstory of a lot of 90 00:04:27,959 --> 00:04:30,279 these characters, there are things that I think, okay, maybe 91 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:30,839 they changed. 92 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: Okay, they're adding a little bit more in. 93 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: Here in regards to backstory and just kind of character 94 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,959 arcs that I think people may not like, they may 95 00:04:41,519 --> 00:04:44,279 be upset about. And I get that it's a video 96 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:47,560 game movie, and video game movies have that trouble of 97 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,360 changing the narrative, changing the lore or the history, all 98 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:52,639 that kind of stuff, So I can understand people's frustration 99 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:53,759 when it comes to these characters. 100 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:54,759 Speaker 2: And these characters are. 101 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: Very much, really loved by the community and the fandom, 102 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,040 so I don't blame them. 103 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: If I had to again, maybe. 104 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,759 Speaker 1: At some point rank all these video game movies, I 105 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,879 think I know where I would put this on that list. 106 00:05:07,959 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: I have some that are really really high and then 107 00:05:09,959 --> 00:05:10,680 others that are low. 108 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: But I think I could place this probably somewhere in 109 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,560 the middle to lower, because it definitely is not devoid 110 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,639 of its problems. One thing in particular that bothers me 111 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,279 when you see this in movies is when you have 112 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,120 a character talking and they're trying to build up the 113 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,040 stakes here in this brief scene and something really happens. 114 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,920 It's tense, but oh, within literally within four seconds, you 115 00:05:33,959 --> 00:05:38,240 have the scene set up a major like oh my 116 00:05:38,319 --> 00:05:41,240 god moment and then it's resolved and then it cuts 117 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,360 to the next scene within a four to five seconds, 118 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,399 And I don't like when movies do that. It really 119 00:05:46,439 --> 00:05:48,639 really pulls you out of it, and it just to me, 120 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,759 it feels like, Okay, that's the kind of movie we have, 121 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:52,399 that's the kind of movie. 122 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: That they were trying to do. 123 00:05:53,199 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: It feels rushed, and you're just gonna get consistent more 124 00:05:57,319 --> 00:05:59,639 scenes like that through throughout the whole film, and I 125 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,639 don't like that. It's very unfortunate, But I digress. I'm 126 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:06,360 trying to think what else I can kind of cover 127 00:06:06,439 --> 00:06:10,000 here without spoiling it. It was cool to see familiar 128 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,959 faces again. Like I said, there's lots of stuff in 129 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,680 here that a fan is going to be able to 130 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,959 latch onto, and there's gonna be a lot of things 131 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,680 that they're gonna not be able to appreciate because it's 132 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,360 just changing the story a little bit. And I don't 133 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,639 have any grievances with that because Assassin's Creed is a 134 00:06:25,639 --> 00:06:27,759 similar kind of position where they changed a lot of 135 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:30,600 stuff with that movie and kind of drifted from the 136 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,040 idea of the games and what the characters are you 137 00:06:33,079 --> 00:06:36,199 try to create your own thing. Big positive though, is 138 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:38,519 this movie had great set pieces. 139 00:06:38,759 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: Holy smokes. 140 00:06:39,639 --> 00:06:42,879 Speaker 1: I thought that everything looked really really fun, looked really 141 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,040 really in touch with that world of being on Pandora. 142 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,000 I really really appreciate the attention to detail that they 143 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:55,560 incorporated the character costumes, though some of it just felt 144 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:01,759 like it was a little overly cosplay little bit, not 145 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,720 that there's anything wrong with that, and maybe it's just 146 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:06,000 the aesthetic of this world. It just kind of feels 147 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,560 that way because I obviously it's the way the tone 148 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,160 and the saturation is in the games. It has that vibe, 149 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,959 and so when you're creating that in real life, it 150 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,079 definitely comes off as being. 151 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: Cosplay. 152 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: Like I guess, so I can't really dock at points 153 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,399 for that, but it is just the way that I 154 00:07:23,519 --> 00:07:27,040 kind of interpreted. Again, though, the whole scenery of everything, 155 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,959 the action was really really fun. Really enjoyed that, and 156 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,759 I think that they had the actors and actresses had 157 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,800 a lot of fun. At least that's the energy that 158 00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:36,800 I could pick up from this. There are some moments, 159 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,000 obviously where it feel like, Okay, they're just trying to 160 00:07:39,319 --> 00:07:41,279 get through this scene and just. 161 00:07:41,319 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: Move on with their life. 162 00:07:42,519 --> 00:07:44,959 Speaker 1: But there was a lot of other sequences that I'm 163 00:07:44,959 --> 00:07:46,839 not saying like they're given it. They're all like they're 164 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:50,800 getting like this is the billion dollar role here or 165 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:53,720 anything like that. But I could feel like it wasn't 166 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:58,040 totally devoid of effort. There wasn't a lot of passion, 167 00:07:58,439 --> 00:08:00,759 but it was not devoid of effort. They were trying 168 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,199 to really like get into that role. And I think 169 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:05,399 that all the characters definitely jive well with each other 170 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,720 on screen. I think Kevin Hart was fun and Jamie 171 00:08:08,759 --> 00:08:12,759 Lee Curtis was interesting in Kate's character as well. She 172 00:08:13,079 --> 00:08:14,839 I think she did a really good job as Litith. 173 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,000 I actually really liked her. 174 00:08:17,639 --> 00:08:22,319 Speaker 2: So would I see it again? I don't know. That 175 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,399 would be a tough one for me to say right now. 176 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get into the spoilers and then 177 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,439 come to a decision at the end of this review 178 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,240 on whether or not I would see it again. So 179 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:36,840 I'm gonna jump to a quick ad break right now, 180 00:08:36,879 --> 00:08:39,759 and here's the Bee's Knees. If you are on Patreon, 181 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,879 well you get to skip this, so we'll be right back. 182 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,159 And we are back. So the story here, and this 183 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,799 is the story that again I'm thinking Hunter Iggy in 184 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,440 the chat, just me representing geek verse, So shout outs 185 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:02,600 to you, my friend. Let's see now, the narrative is 186 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,320 very different from what I. 187 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 2: Am familiar with with Borderlands. 188 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,039 Speaker 1: Borlands is just filled with vault hunters, and obviously there's 189 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:11,679 a little bit more in depth narratives here. And while 190 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,440 I'm familiar with Borlands too, is handsome Jack and you're 191 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,159 just trying to deal with the Hyperium Corporation or Hyperion 192 00:09:18,279 --> 00:09:23,759 Corporation and just got a bazillion guns. The guns factor 193 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,799 was not really represented much in this movie, and I 194 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,720 feel kind of bummed out about that. We have Roland 195 00:09:31,759 --> 00:09:34,240 who's got his signature gun, and then we got Lilith 196 00:09:34,279 --> 00:09:35,080 who's got her two. 197 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: Guns, and that was pretty much it. I would have 198 00:09:38,039 --> 00:09:40,679 loved to have seen a whole array, give me the 199 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,480 bazillion guns, or they're pulling. 200 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: Guns out of everything and everywhere and just using them 201 00:09:44,639 --> 00:09:45,320 and just having fun. 202 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,759 Speaker 2: That would have been great. Characters were using. 203 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,799 Speaker 1: Guns, but it didn't feel unique. It didn't feel like 204 00:09:50,879 --> 00:09:56,399 it had that Borderlins vibe of bazilion guns. I mean, 205 00:09:56,399 --> 00:09:59,120 you have all these weapons manufacturers like Atlas and Hyperion 206 00:09:59,159 --> 00:10:01,120 and so forth, and so it's just I feel like 207 00:10:01,159 --> 00:10:02,360 that was something that was lacking. 208 00:10:02,799 --> 00:10:05,039 Speaker 2: But again, the attention to detail was really really fun. 209 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: It was really really cool, So I can appreciate it, 210 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:09,879 but also I can be upset about it at the 211 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:14,399 same time. But the story here goes that we have 212 00:10:14,799 --> 00:10:18,559 Pandora being a great, luscious planet, and then we have 213 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:23,840 basically iridium technology that is left behind by that ancient 214 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,080 alien race that humanity has been trying to acquire more of. 215 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,279 And Pandora has these vaults that well, specifically one vault 216 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:35,559 on this planet that is highly sought after. All the 217 00:10:35,639 --> 00:10:39,360 vault hunters are here to get it. So they're on 218 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:41,799 the planet trying to get their way, and it's just 219 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,399 turned into. 220 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: Chaos and destruction. The planet has just. 221 00:10:44,159 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: Been obliterated, essentially turned into a wasteland. And so you 222 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,440 have Lilith, who is a bounty hunter. And this is 223 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,879 where I don't know much about her history. I just 224 00:10:53,919 --> 00:10:56,600 know from border Lands, Okay, there's usually six sirens and 225 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,720 existence at any given time. Usually they're all drawn to 226 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,720 do and from my knowledge, I've seen maybe three, but 227 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,960 I know for sure too. Obviously there's Attle less, and 228 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:10,519 there's the one you play as in Borderlands two. So 229 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,679 those are the only ones I'm familiar with, and excuse 230 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:17,399 my lack there of Bordlands lore knowledge. So Lilith gets 231 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,840 basically a whole backstory arc in this movie. 232 00:11:20,879 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: It's basically her like. 233 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: They call it Borderlands, but they should just call it 234 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,480 Lilith the Borderlands Saga or something like that, because this 235 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,519 is essentially her movie. Well, it starts off with Tina 236 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:36,320 and Roland Roland breaking Tina out. 237 00:11:36,519 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: I didn't know. 238 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: A lot about Tina's history, so I can't speak to 239 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,759 this being accurate. But we learn, okay that this character 240 00:11:42,799 --> 00:11:45,279 who like Atlas, is a real corporation of the game. 241 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,519 But the character that leads Atlas here, I'm not sure 242 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,799 if he is actually a real Borlands character or not, 243 00:11:50,879 --> 00:11:54,639 but he's claiming to be Tina's father. But really, Tina 244 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,679 was created in a lab with the DNA from the 245 00:11:57,799 --> 00:12:02,240 species of the iridium species, and so she was to 246 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,159 open up a vault because there's this whole concept that 247 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:06,960 they come with. Okay, there's the one vault with all 248 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,639 the iridium technology on Pandora, and it's going to be 249 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,000 a daughter of a Ridium that's going to open it up, 250 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:15,320 and so they were trying to create a descend into 251 00:12:15,399 --> 00:12:19,600 a female or Ridium child, and they did that, but 252 00:12:19,639 --> 00:12:23,159 we learned, Okay, she's not actually the one to do it, 253 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:25,240 and all in all, after everything's said and done, you 254 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,759 learn that Lilith is the one that's going to actually 255 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,519 open this vault and send this on our way through 256 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,679 this narrative. And that's that's something I kind of expected, 257 00:12:34,799 --> 00:12:37,000 I guess, because I didn't know or think that there 258 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,440 was anything super special with Tina. Based on my experience 259 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,080 with the character, I know Lilith was a siren going 260 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,080 into this, and maybe that's what they were banking on 261 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,480 because most of the audience who hasn't played the game 262 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,600 is going to go see this and not pick up 263 00:12:49,639 --> 00:12:51,200 on that. So they're going to think, oh, well, Lilith 264 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:53,039 is just a regular person. But no, Lilith has these 265 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,000 powers and it's able to teleport and fly and do 266 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,519 all these things because she's a Sien, and so she's 267 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,519 able to tap it into the superpower and that's exactly 268 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,639 what happens. I for a second thought that maybe they 269 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:08,519 were just going to scrap all that and they weren't 270 00:13:08,519 --> 00:13:10,879 going to incorporate it because ninety percent of the movie 271 00:13:10,919 --> 00:13:13,480 is her without her powers, and you get the last 272 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:16,039 ten percent, which is the final fight where she's just 273 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,679 going to town and she's insta powerful. She's Captain marvel 274 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:23,879 Tier within seconds, where she's just using everything, which is 275 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,279 kind of funny. But you get scenes with her mother, 276 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,399 which I don't know if it's her biological mother. You 277 00:13:29,519 --> 00:13:33,320 get scenes with her. And now Tannas is a borderlines character, 278 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,200 but we learned that Jamie Lee Curtis, who plays her, 279 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,600 is kind of the character who took in Lilith and 280 00:13:42,039 --> 00:13:44,279 was to raise her but just kind of discarded her. 281 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: And so Lilis was raised by other. 282 00:13:45,919 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: Bandits, pirates and whatnot and became a bounty hunter in 283 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:52,519 the wake of that. So there's a lot of things 284 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:54,600 here that again I'm not sure if that is the 285 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:57,799 official lore, but to me, it feels like they're kind 286 00:13:57,799 --> 00:14:00,480 of creating their own thing. I'm pretty sure Tennis is 287 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:02,559 a lot younger in the games, and so this Tennis 288 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:06,639 is an older interpretation, and she's obsessed with this one 289 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,080 vault that you're trying to get into on Pandora. 290 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: What else do. 291 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: We have here, we talked about Atlas, Yeah, Patricia Tennis 292 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,200 and I guess she's in yeah, all of the Yeah 293 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,159 for Lance three as well, Children of the Vault, the 294 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,360 New Vault Hunters, so she's appeared quite a bit actually, 295 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,399 so that's kind of interesting. And then we had Moxie 296 00:14:30,679 --> 00:14:32,159 up here as well, so that was pretty cool to 297 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:32,519 see her. 298 00:14:32,559 --> 00:14:34,679 Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting that, but. 299 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: I was definitely super super stoked to see that, being 300 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,960 an iconic character return with her bar and everything. That 301 00:14:41,039 --> 00:14:43,360 was a lot of fun and talking to the Atlas 302 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:47,159 Lance of Atlas or Crimson Lance, I think what they're called, 303 00:14:47,159 --> 00:14:50,360 the Atlas Soldiers, just dealing with them. So there were 304 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:53,039 some other fun characters are actors that popped in here 305 00:14:53,039 --> 00:14:56,399 that I wasn't expecting. And so we also got Kreeg. 306 00:14:56,879 --> 00:14:59,279 Kreeg is someone that came along. He was DLC and 307 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,039 Borlanz too, I believe, yeah, because remember playing is Sims 308 00:15:02,039 --> 00:15:04,879 and he was a lot of fun, just a psycho 309 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,039 that you get to indulge in and play with. And 310 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,720 so I think they did Creeg really really well. His 311 00:15:10,519 --> 00:15:13,320 dialogue was really really funny. It's always funny in the games. 312 00:15:13,039 --> 00:15:13,759 Speaker 2: And whatnot, but. 313 00:15:15,799 --> 00:15:18,879 Speaker 1: This is where they've rushed some things, because at the 314 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,159 very start, when you have Roland breaking Tina out of 315 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,879 her vault, all of a sudden, the cycle door bursts 316 00:15:25,919 --> 00:15:29,360 off the vault and Kreeg walks out and just talking 317 00:15:29,679 --> 00:15:32,840 not mumbo jumbo and attacks a few Crimson Lance agents 318 00:15:33,159 --> 00:15:35,960 and then just agrees to help Roland and Tina. 319 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: That's that, and we continued. 320 00:15:37,919 --> 00:15:39,879 Speaker 1: On, and that's how it kind of feels throughout this 321 00:15:39,919 --> 00:15:43,399 film because we get obviously Lilith, who's trying to capture 322 00:15:43,559 --> 00:15:48,320 Tina bring Tina back to Atlas before she turns over 323 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,799 to the good side. Roland shows up points the gun 324 00:15:51,919 --> 00:15:54,159 at Lilith after they had just fought off a bunch 325 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,759 of Crimson Lance soldiers, and it's just weird because Lilith 326 00:15:59,799 --> 00:16:02,039 has says a few pieces of dialogue like, hey, what 327 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,159 happened back there? I'm on the WANTA posters now too. 328 00:16:04,799 --> 00:16:07,000 I'm paraphrasing, of course, and so Roland just drops his 329 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,679 gun and says, Okay, we're all on the same team now. 330 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,639 It's like, what, really, this woman is a bounty hunter. 331 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,679 She was just here to take away your Uh You're like, 332 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:18,840 I don't want to call her an asset, but like 333 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:22,240 you're like Tina, the girl you're protecting, and you're just 334 00:16:22,279 --> 00:16:24,759 willing to just turn your back towards her now and 335 00:16:24,799 --> 00:16:26,360 trust her like I don't know. 336 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: It was just very forgiving. 337 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,039 Speaker 1: And that's just one of the things that really progressed 338 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,360 this forward. Lilith also being a siren and having the 339 00:16:34,399 --> 00:16:38,440 ability to detect all of a sudden, where one of 340 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,600 the key pieces to open the vault is is they 341 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,480 were they got past all of these psychos and then 342 00:16:43,559 --> 00:16:47,000 they were in this huge storage warehouse and there's a 343 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,639 key that they're looking for in thousands of boxes Indiana 344 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,720 Jones warehouse style, and Lilith just all of a sudden 345 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:53,200 senses it. 346 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,759 Speaker 2: It's like, hey, guys, I found it again. 347 00:16:55,799 --> 00:16:57,679 Speaker 1: It's just another one of those things that I feel 348 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,120 like that they just rushed and they just want to 349 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,840 to get through it and throw this in here a 350 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,599 plot device, and here we go continuing on our merry way. 351 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: It was unfortunate that they did that. 352 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,079 Speaker 1: I just I wish that they took their time, because 353 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,680 I don't want to say that it's not got any soul, 354 00:17:16,799 --> 00:17:20,079 it doesn't have any passion, but it feels like they 355 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,200 did things just because they knew they needed to tie 356 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,279 it into what the fandom likes and what the fandom 357 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,480 is familiar with. So just because you incorporate these characters 358 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,920 and you can make a familiar setting. 359 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: And set the stage and the. 360 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: Whole sequence, the whole movie basically being Borderlands like, it 361 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,039 doesn't mean that it's going to capture the support of 362 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:49,640 that fandom when you start speeding along, because you got 363 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,559 to have a good a good story. You got to 364 00:17:52,599 --> 00:17:55,599 have good writing for these characters. And so just because 365 00:17:56,079 --> 00:18:01,599 you have these cosmetic, cosmetically looking characters from the in there, 366 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,279 it's not going to do you justice. It's not good enough. 367 00:18:05,319 --> 00:18:06,880 You have to make sure that you're writing them well. 368 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,960 You have to make sure that they're delivering on all 369 00:18:10,519 --> 00:18:14,640 fronts as well. So that's something that really does pull 370 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,920 me out a little bit, and I wish that some 371 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,160 of these characters were written a little bit better. I 372 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,359 don't need them to be like top tier or anything 373 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:23,799 like that. 374 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,039 Speaker 2: I just it's a Borderlines movie. 375 00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: I understand it's gonna be a little wonky, and maybe 376 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,039 at the end of the day, coming off of Deadpool 377 00:18:30,079 --> 00:18:34,359 and Wolverine, that's got its hand at play here because 378 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,480 there's a lot of jokes in here that just don't 379 00:18:36,519 --> 00:18:38,680 work for me. They're trying to make you laugh, and 380 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,559 I'm really not laughing. And it's not that it's trying 381 00:18:41,559 --> 00:18:44,440 to break the fourth wall, but they're definitely doing certain 382 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,319 things that are in the same limelight as Deadpool and 383 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,400 Wolverine in terms of humor, where they're trying to be funny, 384 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,359 but it's just not working. It just doesn't crack it 385 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,839 for me. That makes that people were laughing in my theater, 386 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,680 so I can respect that, and I'm glad that some 387 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,759 people enjoyed. 388 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:08,799 Speaker 2: It, but overly it was not like for the whole movie. 389 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,279 Speaker 1: There was a lot of jokes and the laughing was 390 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:14,079 not consistent, so that is unfortunate. 391 00:19:15,839 --> 00:19:17,559 Speaker 2: But like I said, the effects were great. 392 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,319 Speaker 1: There was some stuff that it was a little bit questionable, 393 00:19:20,319 --> 00:19:22,240 but most of the cgi I was pretty good. Practical 394 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,319 effects were nice, and so I can really really appreciate 395 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,640 what they were trying to do in certain fronts. So 396 00:19:28,839 --> 00:19:31,880 the action and the choreography really really enjoyed that. But 397 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,400 at its core, I just I don't feel like we're 398 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,279 gonna be running to rewatch this movie. I might make 399 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:39,720 the geeks watch it. I might make that my Golden 400 00:19:39,759 --> 00:19:43,359 Geeks pick for maybe worse movie, depending on what other 401 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,920 ones we got out to check my movie list on 402 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,799 letter box and see. But maybe I can force the 403 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:49,440 other geeks to watch this just so. 404 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: They can get it out of their system. 405 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't really have much else to add 406 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:59,160 to this review. It's a very very basic storyline where 407 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,920 they need to get to their destination, get to the 408 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,680 vault before the bad guys do and oh you know, 409 00:20:03,839 --> 00:20:07,519 we're gonna randomly come together our ragtag team and now 410 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:10,720 we're a family and now we're a group. Oh amazing, 411 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,799 and that's that. And yeah, just that narrative, but rushed 412 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,880 and expedited a little bit faster. So I'm not super 413 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,599 happy with it. I wish that this was a little 414 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,920 bit better. And like I said, I was going in unbiased. 415 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,559 I was trying not to let the zeros hit me hard. 416 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,279 But I think that I can understand why this movie 417 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,440 has some zeros. I'm not gonna give it a zero today, 418 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,359 but I don't think I'm gonna pass it. I feel 419 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,359 like if it had just a little bit more mph 420 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,759 and a little bit more passion involved, then maybe I 421 00:20:43,759 --> 00:20:47,079 could give it something, But I think I'm gonna go 422 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,799 a four out of ten on this. I enjoyed it 423 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,920 enough to give it that high of a rating, So 424 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,119 there's that. But whether it's my lack there of knowledge 425 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,799 and lore on the games that prevents me from appreciating 426 00:21:01,799 --> 00:21:03,920 a lot of the extra detail that they put into this, 427 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,640 or the fact that it's my lack there of knowledge 428 00:21:07,759 --> 00:21:14,799 that that really allows me to appreciate it to that point, 429 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,359 I mean, it's hard to say, but yeah, four out 430 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,200 of ten is where I'm gonna where I'm gonna stand 431 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,839 with it shows to. 432 00:21:21,839 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 2: Sam and the chat, well, tune out when spoilers start. 433 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,039 Speaker 1: Well, lucky for you, spoilers did start, but I'm basically 434 00:21:28,039 --> 00:21:31,400 at the end of my review, so you can tune 435 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,920 into the beginning. I think it's the first eight minutes 436 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,359 I get into the non spoilers. Worth spending the money 437 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:44,480 in cinema? Oh I no, No, it wasn't worth spending 438 00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:47,799 the money in cinema, unfortunately, and I wish it was 439 00:21:49,799 --> 00:21:51,559 the only Like I said before, like they do a 440 00:21:51,559 --> 00:21:53,839 great job at the set pieces, and they really really 441 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,640 did add a lot of detail to the visuals, but 442 00:21:58,599 --> 00:22:02,759 it's not enough to you really pull me in, and 443 00:22:02,839 --> 00:22:05,359 again I saw on theaters because I wanted to review it. 444 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,079 But yeah, if I had to recommend it that you're 445 00:22:09,079 --> 00:22:12,240 gonna drop like you're fifteen or thirteen hard earned dollars 446 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,279 on a movie like this, I don't think. So I 447 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:19,319 would honestly say, go see Deadpool and Wolverine again. If 448 00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:22,279 you've already seen that, spend the fifteen bucks to go 449 00:22:22,319 --> 00:22:25,440 see that movie again, because you'll walk out feeling super 450 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,680 satisfied and enjoy it even more than you would going 451 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,720 into seeing this. So maybe that's a very a bold statement, 452 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:37,359 but that's how I feel. I'm glad I did see 453 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,240 it though, so I could review it. But I could 454 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,799 have easily seen myself saying, hey, you know what, let's 455 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,240 just skip over or to the Wolverine and Deadpool showing 456 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,160 or Deadpool Wolverine showing playing in the. 457 00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: Theater next door. So that's that. 458 00:22:50,279 --> 00:22:53,279 Speaker 1: But if you're a huge Borderlines fan and you, I 459 00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:56,200 mean you love the franchise, then yeah, I go see it. 460 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,960 Like I'm a huge Assassine Creed fan, so I of 461 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,720 course I had to go see that movie in theaters 462 00:22:59,759 --> 00:23:04,599 because you're getting your favorite franchise blasted on the big screens, 463 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,680 so I'm not going to argue with you on that. 464 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,920 But if you are, you know, you played a couple 465 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,440 of the games, you're sort of an average fan. Or 466 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,359 if you have not played any of the games, I 467 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,400 think you can put your money elsewhere and benefit more 468 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,599 greatly from that decision. 469 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:25,599 Speaker 2: But I digress. That's it. That's all I'm gonna speak 470 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,559 to tonight. So I hope you enjoyed it. 471 00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:30,799 Speaker 1: I hope that my review helps you formulate a decision 472 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,680 to whether you want to see it or not, or 473 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,319 you're just gonna let it blow away in the wind 474 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,480 and be forgotten. 475 00:23:39,319 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: It's up to you. 476 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: But until then, I will see you in the search bar, 477 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,039 and thanks for tuning in. 478 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: Have a good one.