Speaker 1: It is puck time four Thursday, January eighth. Welcome in,
guys to wager Talk TV. We got a handful of
games to break down and just the two of us
on today's show, myself Andrew McGinnis and Carmi and Bianco.
Look forward to going over a couple games with you
guys a busy Thursday slate. I got some props for
you guys today as well. We'll try and cash in
on some same game prize. I got three mini same
game parlays. You guys can cash in or you can
take the whole thing and try and look for a
big prize winner.
Speaker 2: Carmine has a play of the day.
Speaker 1: We also have some stats for you in a cool
little segment, so look forward to going over that. Karen,
I gotta mention, man, this Celebrini kid is just unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Like he is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: If you're not watching San Jose Shark games, you gotta
to turn them on because it's crazy what this guy does.
Like he you know they're on a second half half
of back to back. He ties the game up and
then in overtime he strips the guy from the puck
two on one perfect pass he ends up getting.
Speaker 2: Was it a two or three point night at least?
Speaker 1: I mean, he is phenomenal, and I think that he
has separated himself from being just a young guy in
the league to an elite star in this league.
Speaker 2: But a pretty good night of NHL last night, what
do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the one in one night for me.
Thankfully Celebrini and the Sharks helped that game go over
the total, which is the one made it one and
one night or else would have been a bit of
a disaster for me. It's the last two days. Is like,
I'm four and six with ten plays, and that might
not seem bad, but I find it actually, I find
it kind of disastrous, to be honest with you. I
had won seven seven straight like soccer plays, and yesterday's
two plays looked like they were gonna split out, and
then a goal near the end of the game ruined
it for me. So it was an zero to two
day there, one and one in NHL hockey. So four
and six I call it a slump. But I'll write
the ship and we'll get back at it today. I
won't have any soccer plays up, but I will mention
at the end of the show are the ones that
I one that I do like today, but it's not
going to make the card.
Speaker 4: I'm just betting it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then some NHL plays which I will get up
after the show. I've getten written down waiting for goalie confirmations. Andrew,
speaking of goalie confirmations, Andrew, did you see and did
you guys were watching this live or a little later
on see what happened in Saint Louis.
Speaker 4: I thought the.
Speaker 3: Jacob Markstrom thing with him getting them leaving them in
net to get hung out to dry for nine goals
in a disaster. And I'm going to go off on
a tangent here. Yesterday afternoon, I'm replying to some comments
on the on the video and I'm watching the Manchester
United drinking some San Pellegrino, and I literally spit my
water over my laptop because some guy commented about three
o'clock in the afternoon, hykarm the Islleners just scored again.
Speaker 4: You know what, It's just it's a bit of sarcasm.
Speaker 3: But I actually those are the kind of comments that
just make you laugh because it was such a good game,
good humor. But Bennington did not want to come out
of the game that he calls him over, coach calls
him over, he doesn't want to come out of the game.
The backup goalie Hoffer is nowhere to be seen. And
then when they come back from the commercial break, you
see Hoffer peaking from behind the I guess the corridor
or what have you. He's just looking to see if
anyone can spot him back there. He didn't even want
to go into net. I don't know what is going on, man,
but that was that was hilarious, you know, in the moment,
and luckily I had no action on that one, Andrew,
so that made me feel a little bit better.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I was saying to you before the show started, Karen,
that I have been defending Jordan Bennington and saying that
you know, right now he has Canada's net at the Olympics,
just based on the performance that he had at the
Foreign Nations tournament last year.
Speaker 2: But as of right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he deserves the net after one
of the stuff that I've been seeing, like he had
he had the shutout against the Montreal Canadians.
Speaker 2: What was it last Saturday?
Speaker 1: I think, KRM and then you know, seven goals and
then as you mentioned why are we seeing so many
Patrick Waugh situations going on here? Why aren't these guys
pulling their goalie? I mean, I guess they tried to
pull him but he wouldn't. And then, yeah, you said,
Joel Hofer is like he's behind the curtain saying like
do you want me to come out?
Speaker 2: It was weird, but yeah, these guys are getting.
Speaker 1: Lit up like Christmas trees lately, and I think it
makes it worse that it was Chicago. Let's be honest,
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: On my pre scout video, I talked about player props
in that game. I talked about the under in that game.
You know, that game was five and a half shaded
towards the under and then it ended up like seven
to one or something, which is pretty crazy. Yeah, Colsey says,
no way Team Canada can start him, That's the thing, man,
Like I agree, Like I was team start him for
the last few months, but lately, I don't know. I
just like, if you go back go on YouTube and
you look up the four Nations Finals, you look at
all the amazing saves he made. It kind of made
me think that the net was his but he's playing
pretty poorly, Karm, so it's hard for us to think
that the net's gonna be his four much longer.
Speaker 2: Let's look, Karm at a couple of games we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna break down. I think you already. Did you mention
the games? I don't know if you did or not?
Speaker 3: No, Calgary, Yeah, Calgary, Boston, the Buffalo Sabers and the
much maligned and now injured New York Rangers. Talk a
little bit about that. How can we not have a
show and not talk about the next game being played
by the New Jersey Devils as they are in Pittsburgh tonight,
And then inside the numbers a segment I have for
you guys today. I recorded some videos for wager Talk
yesterday talking about how about the NHL NHL puck lines?
And I compiled a little a few stats for you
guys to hopefully sway you one way or another on
whether you like betting puck lines or not. And then
of course Andrews saying game parlay the pod which will
surprise you guys, and then are closing we need to
get that pod back on. You know that, Andrew, I
will say this, and I was having a discussion with
you a few people yesterday and they clearly you know,
I said the pods, I think this is lost like
two or three in a row, and they said, yes,
and your bank roll is still up because your proper
The pod play is showing that with propper bank roll management,
you don't go bust if you lose two or three
games in a row. So, with that said, let's get
to the show. Andrew, Boston Bruins, Calgary Flames minus one
thirty nine on the Bruins Calgary plus one fourteen total
sits here at six. How are you playing this one
Flames on the second of a back to back?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been saying this a lot during the season,
carm How much different it is when you've got a
team that's struggling on a second half of back to
back versus a team that's coming off a huge victory.
The sense of urgency is going to be there. A
good example is Dallas, right, Dallas last night, We both
talked about Dallas yesterday, coming off a bunch of losses
in a row. You lose against the Carolina Hurricanes, and
then you pull off the win against the Washington Capitals
and albeit there missing Alexi Protest, and they're missing Tom Wilson,
a couple of key injuries for that team overall, as
we can see that, you know, a second half of
back to back isn't always a fade spot for a team. Now,
looking at some of my numbers here, we have been
seeing both teams collapsing defensively, allowing a ton of goal
scoring chances in each game. This seems to be one
of those ones come where I am interested in looking
at second half of back to back to the over
You know, you've got a Bruins team, first game back
at home after an extended road trip. They're not going
to like how that road trip ended by any means,
and I think that they're gonna want to get right
back on track offensively. You know, TD Gardens one of
the more exciting buildings to play in as well. But
I lean towards the over here. Both teams defensively are
giving up a ton of chances, high danger chances, slot
chances each game they've played. In the Bruins, they started
off that West Coast road trip on a pretty good note,
but their defensive numbers started to slide towards.
Speaker 2: The end of it, and.
Speaker 1: It's funny because Calgary almost pushed it to four to
two yesterday against the Montreal Canadians, and then they got
called for offside with the challenge, so it ended up
being just a four to one game. It was one
of those ones, though, Karm. Honestly, and I was worried
about the trap spot. You know, I'm a Canadians fan.
We talked about it on the show yesterday. It was
not a trap spot because Montreal was the better team
in that one. Calgary did not show up, So look
forward to seeing what type of team they are in
this game tonight. Wouldn't be shocked to see a better
effort out of them tonight than we did see last night.
Lean for me towards Calgary, but wouldn't talk anybody off
goals being scored in this game either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think i'd talk anybody off of goals
either in this one, Andrew. Even though I always think
that the Bruins aren't a team that you would normally see,
but I think that's something you know from last year
and the year before, a team that you would think
would get into higher scoring games. But it hasn't been
a very good season. I don't think for Swamen. You know,
since getting his bag and taking over like the number
one duties, it hasn't been the greatest forum. Devin Cooley
going is the one who's expected to start the second
of this back to back. You look at his last
couple starts, you know, six to three win for them
against the Vancouver sorry now Vancouver, the Vegas Golden Knights,
four to three against the Detroit Red Wings a loss there.
We've seen some goals and even a five to one
in the previous start against the Nashville Predators. So it's
one of those ones where you know, his last three
starts we've seen at least six six goals being scored,
and now when this tole sits at six, if it
was six and a half, I would just stay away
from it or look to try and bet the over
in game. But this is one with Calgary in the
second of a back to back, not playing well on
the road. I think they've lost five of their last six.
They definitely lost their last three on the road. Bruins
returning home off a five game road trip started in
Buffalo and then went out east where they picked up
some wins, A couple of good wins there, I think
in Vancouver and in Edmonton before losing that seven to
four game against the Kraken. Returning home, let's let's see
if they score some goals in this one tonight. I know,
early in the season, Andrew, I don't know the stats.
Early in the season, the Bruins were one of the
the the best teams for team totals on home ice.
They were constantly hitting their team total. So if you
like the Bruins and that team total is three and
a half plus money, I would probably look to take
that as well too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that, karm And I just think that it's
one of those situations where you have a first team back,
first game back home after a road trip, as well
as a second half of a back to back off
of loss. There seems to be urgency in mind for
both teams. Now, whether or not we're going to just
see Calgary say, okay, you know, we can't find our
offense right now, we've got to pack it in defensively,
or the urgency becomes, you know, more, more of an
important factor and you start, you know, dumping pucks deep.
And because you know, one stat that I've been looking
at a lot more lately as far as the advanced
metrics is concerned, karm Is, the possession possessions become a
lot more important to me because you know, certain teams
that are just dumping chase teams, but they're not ever
retrieving it. How can you score goals? How can you
be involved in games where you know you're not carrying
the puck too much? And that's one thing that Calgary's
kind of struggling with right now. But we'll see if
they can take advantage of Calgary team like that. We
got a question here from David. He is, of course
a Wager Talk member. He says, question for you guys,
does it's scary to take a team that returns home
from a road trip?
Speaker 2: Opinion? Please, carm what do you think it does?
Speaker 3: But in a situation different than this one, you know,
I mean, if there was a team in Boston waiting
with the day's rest, I hadn't played the night before,
and the Bruins return with one day one day's rest
because they played they played on what on Tuesday, I'd
likely look to fade the Bruins in this spot, you know,
especially because they picked up a couple wins on that
road trip.
Speaker 4: It wasn't bad.
Speaker 3: I think the seven to four loss to Seattle is
a little disappointing. I'd look to fade them in that
spot again. Although it's a five game road trip, it
was essentially a four game West coast trip with some
travel along the way.
Speaker 4: Right, what they do.
Speaker 3: They went Calgary to Edmonton, Edmonton to Vancouver, Vancouver to
Seattle and then back home so a little bit of
travel in the Northwest for them. I would probably look
to the fade them. It's one of those angles I
looked for East Coast teams returning from the West Coast.
I played at least three maybe four games out there
and vice versa West Coast teams returning home off.
Speaker 4: The East Coast.
Speaker 3: It is not foolproof, but it is one that I
look at and then it is one of the boxes
that you check and then you look at other boxes.
Is the goaltending match up a favorable one is the
team that they're playing at least playing well or over
five hundred and check off some boxes and then just
get the right price. We're not getting the right price
here on Calgary for a team that's not playing well
on the road right now, plus one fourteen, and I
said it plus money against Montreal, wasn't It just wasn't
enough to take them in that spot either.
Speaker 2: Andrew, Yeah, that's how I feel too. I get it.
Speaker 1: For my answer to David will be a lot of
it has to do with how the road trip went
for the team. You know, how they're feeling, what their
mindset is. So you know some teams, you know, Habs.
Relic talked about how the Habs got back from a
road trip, and they certainly played well. They had a
couple of days rest and they outclass the Flames. But
sometimes it kind of just depends on how that road
trip went overall.
Speaker 2: I look at that, I look at that last.
Speaker 1: Game for the Bruins, and I'm just looking at some
of the statu sheet here for some of the Kraken players,
like the number of shots some of these guys were
able to get and the crack and let's be honest,
they're not really a high event team. It's not a
team that can score a bunch and the fact they're
able to put seven goals up on you, it's gonna
create some urgency here for the Bruins. That does kind
of worm me a bit for the over tonight. But
at the end of the day, I think their urgency
is going to be offensive. It really is. But they're
gonna want to get back.
Speaker 2: On track, you know. And the funny thing is is.
Speaker 1: That that game, and that's one thing that I'm kind
of looking at now and reflecting, is that I backed
the Bruins in that game because the Kracking were so
bad and back to backs. But that was a tough
spot for the Bruins because they had won two games
in a row, a strong win against the Oilers, win
against the Canucks, and it was last game of the
road trip. So, David, one thing I'll say is that
sometimes the last game of road trip can be actually
more tricky than the first game back at home of
a road trip. You know, the last game of the
road trip can sometimes be you know, that tough one
to look at.
Speaker 2: So calm, the the chat room is bumping right now.
You love to see you. Are you guys packed in
here today? Great to see yeah.
Speaker 3: And if you got some questions, uh, definitely dropped them
in there. We'll try and get to them in between
the games we cover. And do I remember I think
we covered this either last year or the year before
On the show, Dean Evanson said that his training staff
told him that for every day and a half they
spend on the road on a road trip, it takes
a player's body one day when they return home to
readjust so imagine like a six day road trip is
essentially four days before they are back to one off
that road trip. That seems hard to comprehend for these
athletes who are in such great physical shape. But these
are the trainers, this is the fitness staff that are
are telling the coach, and he's talking about it, so
and yeah, yeah, time you're coming as yeah, you're coming
across different time zone. So so definitely that's something to
look So, you know, I watched that game with the
New York Rangers last time they played, and I think
it was against Utah because I had Utah in that game,
and it didn't look bad when Shusturkin was on the ice,
and I thought, is he just did he just try
and draw a penalty? But no, because he left the game,
went into dress room. And now he's gone and it
looks like he may be gone for a while. Adam
Fox gone as well too, for a while. They get
Miller back. He's supposed to be back in the lineup
tonight for them. But it's not good times right now
if you're a New York Rangers fan, and I think Andrew,
at some point, does this become one of those the
New York Rangers are not going to make the playoffs
and they need to move some players and acquire some
assets and draft prospects as well. To her draft picks
as well too, because they got a couple of guys
who would look good on other teams. Already got rid
of Crider, so you know they'll get rid of players.
What about Paneering the bread Men? Can you see them
going anywhere? Buffalo Sabers minus one twenty seven the New
York Rangers at home plus one oh five total of six. Andrew,
where are you going with this one?
Speaker 1: Well, Karen, this is kind of like one of those games,
like as you mentioned where like you said, like this
Rangers team is so weird because when I look at them,
they're they're not really the type of team that can
go into a rebuild. They almost need to go into
a retool almost because you know they're not ready to
just pack it in and start a rebuild again because
they did a rebuild many years ago.
Speaker 2: But as you mentioned, they seem to be.
Speaker 1: Put it this way, they're young players don't perform in
the way that they should, and the old players are
just getting older, you know. And I think the expectations
of some of these guys on a nightly basis, Like
you talk about the bread Men and Zabinized, how good
were those guys at the quote unquote Winter Classic game
in Florida.
Speaker 2: Those guys were awesome.
Speaker 1: Zebenized had the first ever hat trick at a Winter
Classic game, you know, he was unbelievable. Paner and I
think had two or three assists on those goals. They
were great. But it's a real big depth issue on
this Florida pay on this New York Rangers team, and
that's where I find the biggest struggles are concerned with them.
Now whenever we're talking about this Rangers team, I have
to go back to this number here, Karen, when it
comes to the home and away splits. Here looking at
the numbers home goals four and against differential minus twenty four,
away goals for and against differential plus eighteen. Like this
started off as some type of like funny thing to
talk about with how bad this team has been at home.
But now the consistency of this number has just gotten
a little bit carried away, like it has just is continued.
Speaker 2: It's piled on, piled on, piled on.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is is that they've actually given
up the same number of goals on the road as
they have at home. The difference is this is going
to blow your guys' mind. They've scored thirty six goals
at home, but they've scored seventy eight goals on the road.
Speaker 2: That's incredible.
Speaker 1: Thirty six to seventy eight, like that is an unbelievable difference.
And the thing is, you're supposed to have the last change.
You're supposed to be a better team at home. You're
supposed to get the matchups that you like, So that that,
to me is a little bit is a little bit concerning.
Speaker 2: So when it comes to this one, car, I know.
Speaker 1: We've got a backup goalie, and I know that Quick
hasn't played his best hockey lately, But I'm actually interested
in taking the under here. You know, I think that
this is going to be one of those spots where
you lose Shasterkin and the team rallies behind the team.
We see it in football. We see it in basketball.
We can see it in hockey too. You lose the quarterback,
you lose the starget point guard, you lose your goaltender.
You rally around your team and you play a good
defensive one. Here, Jonathan says here that Quick has lost
seven straight good career numbers versus Buffalo. With those numbers
first la days making his first start as a New
York Ranger against Buffalo. Look, when it comes down to it,
I am betting on the fact that they're going to
get their act together for at least a game or
two when they're without Igor Sasterkin karm. I like the
under in this one, maybe have a small lean towards
New York, but I am much more comfortable betting the
under here. And don't look now, but you're Buffalo Sabers.
They've actually had some decent goaltending over the last couple
of weeks, So maybe the goalie system they've got going
right now isn't that bad either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be Colton Ellis in goal tonight for
the Sabers. He's he had to leave that Edmonton game,
the game that they won for three He had to
leave that game due to a concussion. He had stopped
all six shots through the first period. I think he
left with about a minute left in the first period
in that one. You know, he's had some bad games.
This is the thing, and this is the thing with
bringing up a young goalie. He's had some bad games,
so you know, they lose. He allowed like five goals
on thirty five shots against the Philadelphia Flyers in a
five to two loss in Philly. The game before that,
they beat the Minnesota Wild you know, in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Three to two.
Speaker 3: So he's been in net for some for some good games,
he's been in net for some some bad games. You know,
winning in Detroit, beating Edmonton at home, but then losing
to Calgary.
Speaker 4: Is it's up and down with him.
Speaker 3: I tend to think that if you want to protect
a young goalie like this, you have to play some
better defense in front of them. And the thing right
now is that the Savers are playing with a ton
of confidence right now. They're what eleven eleven eleven in
one their last twelve games. I thought there could be
a letdown after they lost after their ten game win
streak was snapped, but they took care of the Vancouver
Canucks on home ice, I think they go into New York.
The problem here is the Rangers just can't score goals
at home. They're averaging something like two point one was it, no.
One point nine to four goals per game going into
that Utah game. They're averaging a home that's absolutely horrible
for a team with players like they have to be
averaging two goals per game on home ice. And this
is why they are where they are right now in
the standing. So Sabers could be in a playoff spot
by the end of the night. It's going to be
one of those interchangeable ones. We'll be talking about teams
that are on the outside looking in and then back
in the playoffs. The following that is the Eastern Conference
and is so tight. I'm taking the Sabers minus one
twenty seven. Too much going wrong for the New York
Rangers for me to have any faith in them whatsoever.
Speaker 1: And it really tells you all you have to know
about this New York Rangers team. If the Buffalo Sabers
are favored against them on the road, it tells you
all you have to know. Really, let's be honest. If
we're listening to the market here. It tells you all
you have to know about that one there. So all right, Carl,
this is the moment we've all been waiting for. And
I've got a surprise for you. And I know you're
gonna just love me for bringing up this graphic here.
So I'm happy that we're in different cities because I'm
going to bring this up. Seventy four point five percent
deserve to win meter from moneypuck dot Com. What hell
New Jersey Devils are playing the Pittsburgh Penguins today. A
lot of you guys out there on Twitter, on Facebook,
on Instagram, people are saying, and this is why the
advanced metrics don't matter. This is why expected goals don't matter. KRM,
I go to you with this, how much do they
matter to you? In the next game? Forget about one game.
It's one loss. Who cares, it's one game. You want
to win them all, you want to win the big plays.
It's one game. But when you're looking at this image,
at least it's not seventy five twenty five the other way,
it's probably an indication that, yeah, Markstrom screwed them.
Speaker 2: And I'm kind of this.
Speaker 1: I'm this kind of person that always defends goaltenders. Man,
I don't know why I always defend goalies. Mark Strom
screwed these guys and so he had a minus seven
point five goals saved above expected minus seven point five.
They're playing in the Pittsburgh Penguins tonight, karm deep breath.
Speaker 2: No, I'm a stay. How do you like this one tonight?
Speaker 3: You know you could take you could keep that graphic
there and remove the writing, and you could just put
in their carms blood pressure right now and it would
be about the same reading right now, seventy five percent
over what it's supposed.
Speaker 4: To be right now.
Speaker 3: For those of you guys just tuning in who missed
yesterday's show, Yes, I had the New Jersey Devils in
a nine nothing loss.
Speaker 4: How does that even happen?
Speaker 3: But we've seen some lopsided scores this year, but I
didn't think I would ever be on one side of it. No,
I'm mistay, Okay, Andrew.
Speaker 4: You know, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of the sound bites coming
out after the game, and I think it's a very
important not only the after the game, but the very
next day when they've had some time to digest what
the hell just happened to them. The night before, guys
like Nico Heischer came out and said, listen, he goes,
I'm a leader on this team. We didn't play well.
I didn't play well. I take full blame for what's
going on. Well, he shouldn't take full blame for it.
A lot of the players on that team should take
blame for it because they played bad defensively, including the
goalie Markstrom, who allowed three goals on his first five shots.
You can't handicap that. But then even you know someone
like Sheldon Keif, we talk in the NFL sometimes about
why is this coach not using his timeouts at the
end of the first half. You don't get to use
him in the second half. What you're saving him for?
What is Sheldon Keif doing not calling a time out
to bring his team over and say, guys, settle down,
let's get the next one, make it three to one,
and get back in this game. He just let it
snowball and snowball and snowball. And that's why I think
at some point Sheldon Keith is gone from this New
York Rangers team unless they start to win some games,
because there's a couple of good coaches out there for
the right opportunity, Andrew, So we'll see if that happens.
But you know what, and this isn't a fate of
the Pittsburgh Penguins. I feel like the Devils are going
to bounce back tonight. And they're even money. I'm not
even laying juice with them. They are even money right
now off a nine nothing loss. It can't get any worse.
Let's hope. I'm not doing a Friday show where I say,
did you see that ten nothing game last night? Because
that would be absolutely miserable for me. I am taking
the New Jersey Devils, Andrew, What about you?
Speaker 1: Carm I think that people have to always stop looking
at coaches and look at general managers more. I think
we need to start the fire FITSI hashtag on social
media because Fitzpatrick. He is the one that I think
has to go in New Jersey. You know some of
the changes that they've made. Do you know how much
money Dougie Hamilton is making. Do you know how much
money Dougie Hamilton cashed in on and he's been playing
like he's worth half that as of late. I mean,
that's to me like some of these moves have been difficult.
And you know what's crazy, Karmace, that we have not
seen one coach get fired this season so far in
the NHL. It's January eighth. We have not seen one
coach fire this year. If they're gonna fire Keith, I
don't think they fire him during the year, But if
they're gonna fire anybody, I think the general manager also
goes as well.
Speaker 2: Look, I talked about.
Speaker 1: This game on my show yesterday night, and I think
that there's two ways to look at this game. You
can take the New Jersey Devils or you can take
the under. And one thing to always worry about when
it comes to the Pittsburgh Penguins is they surrender a
lot of odd man rushes. They allow a lot of
possession time for the opponents. But because this team is
a veteran team, I'm gonna give them the benefit of
the doubt that the time in between games for them
a handful of games can hopefully at least work for
them in a defensive way. You know, hopefully they're not
hope maybe they're rusty offensively, you know, maybe they don't
have their legs offensively, and it benefits to the Devils.
But for me, when I look at this game, I
like the under. You know, I don't have the exact
stats for you. I didn't reach out to Ralph, I
didn't look at these exact ones. But I have always
looked towards an under when a team is coming off
a game where they have given up six or more
goals and well, we all know it was more than
six because it was nine. The crazy thing is, though
it's not even like they just fit that system. They
also fit the coming off a shutout system where teams
have been very, very profitable both on the money line
and team total overs. So I lean towards the Devils,
but I do lean towards the under kind of my
bold play of the night would probably be Pittsburgh team
total under. I just think, car, when you get embarrassed
the way that you that they did, if you're the
New Jersey Devils, you're not going out there tonight saying
we got to win this game with offense, because in
my opinion, it looks equally as bad if it's six',
four you, know if it's six,', five whatever it's if
it's a high, scoring win and you, KNOW what, i
mean like you need to have a good. Defensive Effort
so i'm talking myself into a lot of unders on.
TONIGHT'S board i like this one hopefully a good.
Speaker 3: Defensive game yeah, it's, uh well we'll see if it's
a good defensive game. Or not let's just Hope In
new jersey shows up to. This one but if, they,
don't uh and they drop a couple, more losses kind
Of like jazz And The fresh prince Of, bel air
he needs to be tossed out of that out of
that house because there's a there's.
Speaker 4: A coach on the.
Speaker 3: SIDELINES waiting i think it would be a perfect fit
For This new. Jersey team you know who, That Is Andrew.
Speaker 2: Peter dbori everybody wants everybody, Wants him peter.
Speaker 4: De bores let's look at his numbers.
Speaker 3: Last year, fifty wins the year before, fifty two the year,
before that, forty seven year, before that, forty three the year,
before that forty and then fifteen of his first twenty
two games For The Vegas golden knights the year prior,
to that when he came in as an interim coach
or mid. Season coach so, the guy the guy. Accumulates
wins he's Done, in vegas he's done It, in DALLAS
and i get it, Different players but you need a
coach who has a, winning Mentality and Peter de bores.
Has one so with, that, said Yeah not. MIKE McDaniel
i Think the miami coach. Got fired it's about time
that guy. Got fired, But, ANYWAYS andrew i want to
talk some. Numbers HERE so i know a lot of
you guys love play stuff like puck lines because you
get you. Get that you see that. Plus money, you're,
like well WHY should i? Tell you WHY should i
lay like minus One SEVENTY when i can take the
puck line and it's minus one and, A half i
get plus one fifty on. My money i'm going to.
Show you this is mid term numbers up until the
halfway point of this season, thus far and look at.
These numbers there have been six hundred and seventy six
games played IN. The nhl three hundred and four of
those games have been one goal games forty five percent
of the games played, This year i've been decided by
one goal one hundred and seventy. Six games i've gone
to overtime twenty, six percent which also makes it tough
when you're thinking about. Regulation bets this IS why, i think,
you know when people ask me why are my bets
always sides? In TOTALS because i think sides, IN totals
i get rid of some of. THE exotics i don't
play a lot, of REGULATION although i, Do SOME and
i hardly ever play a puck line because it is
tough to play a puck line in a season in
which almost half of the games have been decided by
a goal unless you're taking the plus one and, a
half and even then you're. Laying big so THAT'S how
i look at andrew. ANY thoughts.
Speaker 1: I think it's really important people look at that stuff because,
number one people don't realize how close games are going.
To be but, NUMBER two i think you have to
realize that, this year more than any, other year kar
there's not a lot, of really really really bad teams in.
The league, you know like we've been able to look
around the league a lot over the last handful of years, And,
say okay this team, right now they're worth fading on the.
Puck line this team has lost x amount of games
in a row by at least two or, More goals
but if you look around the league, right now how
many teams can you think of that you'd have success
and be up, unit wise just, blindly fading, You know
and and and then that's. The thing you got to take,
into account. The odds you got to take into account
the money, line price the puck. Line price AND so
i agree. WITH you i, think that, you know just
taking a look at the, graphic here, you know the one,
goal games and then, You know i've been a huge team,
totals fan just because the team total doesn't really get
in the way of. The regulation, you know like there's
been so many Games that i've hit where they win
four to three. In overtime, YOU know i would say
that three to three is a pretty common score going,
into overtime and then you don't lose the, regulation bet.
You know And and i'd be very curious how many
teams you know that have one in regulation have also
hit the. Puck line but, you know looking at these,
numbers here and a lot of the guys in, the
chat they started giving out more overtime points are, overtime
props AND carm i think YOU and i were getting
better at those to wards the end of, last year
and into. The playoffs but it's not. That crazy, you
know if you're betting a handful of plus three hundreds,
each night you don't have to hit them all to, be,
successful right you don't.
Speaker 4: Have, to yeah and you look.
Speaker 3: At it so when we talk about, puck lines you
know you can look at, the say let's just look
at the top three, right now as far as puck,
lines Go The philadelphia flyers are twenty eight and thirteen
to the, puck line up fourteen and a. Half Units
the seattle crackn are twenty nine and twelve to the,
puck line plus eleven point eleven, ninety four so almost,
twelve units and Then The colorado avalanche at twenty three
and nineteen to the, Puck line and you're up just
a little over ten units. Betting them and that takes
into account whether they're minus one and a half or
they're plus one and a half as far as the puck.
Line goes the three worst Teams The vancouver canucks at
nineteen and, twenty three down fourteen point three, five Units
The Vegas golden knights twelve and twenty nine to the,
puck line down, fourteen units And The New jersey devil
sixteen and twenty seven down thirteen point. Three units if
you're betting against them on the, puck line you're probably making.
Some money if you're taking them on the, puck line you're.
Speaker 4: Down MONEY and, I.
Speaker 1: Think, karl like when you just look at some of this,
stuff here would you say that you're interested overall in
like betting puck lines when they're a bigger price or
when they're kind of a, smaller price just based on
the fact that a lot of, the times, you know
the prices are kind of indicating, To, you, hey look
you know this one is plus one fifty five for.
A reason this one is plus two hundred for, a
reason you KNOW what? I mean like some of these
games lately that have moved to. Pick them like let's
Say sharp money comes, in, overnight right it opens up minus.
One forty we see it get close to almost. A
PICK like i asked pres when he was on earlier in,
the week and he said he does not care about
movement at all. IN hockey i do care about THAT
because i still think the market, has value and so
looking at, that stuff it would actually make me be
more interested in looking at a, puck line seeing the
movement go the, other way VERSUS if i saw it,
coming in it would scare me off a puck LINE
because i, would think maybe this game is going to
be a bit TIGHTER than i thought it was going.
Speaker 2: To, be.
Speaker 3: Yeah YOU know i that's SOMEWHERE where I obviously i
disagree with With. PRES on i think the movement does,
does matter or at the very least the movement should
force you to look into the game a, little further do,
some research check different social, media channels check team pages
to find any up to date information because you normally
and that's one of the great things. About it and
this isn't. Promo wise i'm not trying to, promote it but,
odds logic the idea of having, odds logic even guys
trying it for seven days. For free there's no obligation,
after that try for seven days. For free IN. The
nhl the minute someone is announced out or injured and
will not be playing in, tonight's game you can beat
some slow moving books with your. Money line with money
line plays because you see a line move and it's
moving when it moves twenty twenty, five cents it's moving for,
a reason and it's normally because something happened that the
morning skate and that's when you see some movements in,
the mornings you find out which goal is in the
starter's creased as, Well TOO so i think it's important
to have as many tools. As, possible, so yeah.
Speaker 4: He.
Speaker 3: May not president is more of a fuel guy when
it comes, to BETTING and i. Get it it's been successful.
For HIM but i think when you're when a number
moves and it moves a little more than you expected it,
to move you need to do a little more research
and dive into a little bit more in order to
make sure that you are making, a bet because the
worst thing you do is you make a bet and
then it's almost game time and you, find, out wait
this guy's. NOT playing i wouldn't have bet THIS if i, knew,
This right so you.
Speaker 4: Got to have that. Information available information is. Your friend
So uh and one.
Speaker 2: Thing, cool too is That odds logic just launched something new. This.
Speaker 1: Morning car i'm looking at it. Right now it's really.
Really cool it's a sharp money alert feature.
Speaker 2: Right up on. Your window it will give you.
Speaker 1: An alert it will give you a message letting you
know about. Sharp movement you select the books that, you're
using that you're able, to use or even that you want.
Speaker 2: To track and it will give.
Speaker 1: You notifications and you know a lot of you guys will, Wonder,
sometimes okay how is somebody forming an opinion on this
college basketball team in the middle? Of nowhere how how
are you guys having opinions on, you know this hockey
team that nobody's really. Talking About and i'll just end it.
With this you don't always have to Bet the edmonton's
Or The tampa bay's Or. The colorado's you can bet
you Know the columbuses of. The world you can bet
you Know the utahs of. The world the smaller markets
a little. BIT here I guess columbus is not that small,
a market but you Get where. I'm going you Can Bet,
little rock you Can Bet. Middle tennessee you can bet these.
Smaller markets and you guys can use the odds pages
to have success. With that uh crime running a little.
Bit late i'm gonna just. Really quick got two props.
For you are three props to bring up your three.
DIFFERENT parlays i, Should, say uh the parlay is. Pretty
big so that's why it's tough for you guys to
probably see on the. SCREEN there i want to preface it, with,
this Guys and i've been saying this the past couple.
Speaker 2: Of shows these are three separate two.
Speaker 1: Team parlays if you put them all, into one it's
plus nine to. Ninety seven but these are three. Separate
parlays i'm playing all. Them individually the. First one we've
Got the avalanche off a couple tough games in. A
row they're gonna be happy to be. Back home and,
quite Honestly the senators are just struggling defensively. Right now and,
In Goal brock nelson it's been a great player for.
Them lately, he's undervalued i, would say in. The market
and same Thing For. Arterry lecan and those are two
guys you can get some good numbers on outside, of
McKinnon Outside, of natchez outside. Of mccarr plus one forty
two for these two line mates to get on the
board for a. Point tonight let's move To The maple
Leafs And philadelphia. Flyers game these are two line mates,
As Well john Tavares And. Matthew Nis john tavares has,
done very very well in his career Against The. Philadelphia
flyers it's a good matchup. Base Pick matthew nys is
right there with and he is a left Winger On john.
Tavera's Line and i'll tell, you This this leafs team
is playing some pretty. Good hockey you just might not
realize it because everybody else around them he's also playing
good hockey. As well next one we're going to look Towards.
Is nico he share, one point the captain of the
devils after a nine, nothing Loss And, jack hughes he's
gonna pull that. Trigger tonight three plus shots on goal.
For him we got a plus one, forty two a
plus one twelve and a plus one fourteen car three
PARLAYS that, i like and if you put all those
together you also get plus nine. Ninety seven so have
a good. Night here guys like these plays quite. A
bit three, different parlays and hopefully we can have some.
Speaker 2: Success here nine NINETY seven i.
Speaker 3: Like, it andrew whatever, you do don't adding minus one
thousand to that to try and make it an even
ten to one take a cause those are the ones
that you add at the end of a parlay and
you win all the other ones and, you're like oh,
my god how did this?
Speaker 4: Minus, one yes minus minus. Five, hundred yeah we have
that great, deal there the three day.
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All access andrew read that one off one more time
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Speaker 4: On track.
Speaker 3: In, soccer today everything is going in the In The.
Premier league, YOU know i looked AT when i looked
at yesterday's games In The, PREMIER league, i said everything
Is going. Arsenal's way this, is uh this is going
to be a good Day. For arsenal and they're not.
Even playing What Happens, Man City man city, Drop points chelsea.
Drops points all the teams that are supposed to be
winning and keeping Pace with arsenal are not. Keeping Apart
if arsenal get a big, enough lead they might not
bottle it like they do each and. Every year it
seems so WHAT do i. Gotta do I'm taking arsenal Today. Against,
Liverpool yes liverpool, is struggling they're on.
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Of OLD so i am playing. Them today it is
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i'm Making because i'm going to be watching. The game
as far As The super Cup, IN spain i do
like in. THAT one i think there's gonna be some
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athletical Madrid And real madrid in. That one we'll see
how that. One goes barcelona put up a five Spot
On Athletic Big bill bowl yesterday and now.
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Speaker 3: DRY january i am Taking The New jersey devils at
even money tonight Against The. Pittsburgh penguins let's see if
these bums can bounce back from that nine nothing dismantling
the other night Against The New. York islanders let's see
if they can bounce, Back Here jake allen and goal, Come,
on alan do it. For us let's get the pod back.
On track devils plus. One hundred that's your. Pod play.
Speaker 1: Let's have a big, night. Here guys it's an awesome
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