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Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me

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covering Dungeon Crawler Carl Book seven, This Inevitable Ruin chapters

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twenty seven, wop sorry thirty one through thirty four. Your

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girl don't mind her in this section. You know, these

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orcs just are out here continually fucking throwing a wrench

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into things and getting in their own way. And it's

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remarkable what meeting the patriarch is like, because it's like

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what if succession. Welcome to spoil Me. Welcome to the

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show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you very much to

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Michael for commissioning this episode. William is in the chat

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and is asking miss the lie, but loved your thoughts

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on Carl, the ring and the Empress. How many times

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this donut had to save Carl from himself? Now, yeah,

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good question. And there's a little moment in this too

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that I thought was funny. We have William, Nehua and

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Michael and Saraphim in the chat. Delighted to see you all.

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So this is an interesting section because we've got now

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this major threat looming that isn't but only Carl knows

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that it isn't. And I've been looking for some way

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that Carl could have an advantage over all of the

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other players, you know, and not the other players, but

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his enemies specifically. And I was really just uncertain where

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it could come from and feel believable. And I'm not

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sure how much of an advantage this is because like

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what I would depend on if I were in his

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shoes would be Okay, So everybody is about to just

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like give up on fighting because it's going to be

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their last moments alive, and so they're going to spend

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their time fucking getting drunk, you know what I mean? Like,

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are people going to pull back from the battle itself

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because it's all about to be over and they have

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better shit to do? Alternatively, it could be like I'm

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going to go even harder because now there's nothing remaining,

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so fuck it if I'm gonna die anyway. I don't know,

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and I don't know if like Carl knowing that this

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is not going to happen, is this something that could

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be detected by somebody that, like he doesn't seem as

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worried as everybody else is what does he know that

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we don't know? Would that even be that big a problem? Like,

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you know, I'm genuinely asking, because I keep coming up

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against this, like folks can be very unpredictable in their

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reaction to stuff. I'll think that, you know, there's only

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one logical way to respond, and then somebody you'll do

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some shit and I have to be like, oh right,

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everybody's not me, first of all, and isn't drawing from

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the same experience I am. And second of all, everybody

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isn't logical either, not pretending that I always behave logically

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by the way, but just saying. And then of course

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we have the fact that like Bro winds up getting

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killed despite things, it's who. There's a lot of implications here,

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So let's start. Let's begin with chapter thirty one. And

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it's like, the thing about this section of the book

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I think that's just a little bit overwhelming to me

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is the fact that I thrive on the dialogue, and

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because it's so much battling, it's tons of descriptions, it's

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tons of explaining the positioning, what kinds of weapons somebody

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is using versus others. We're also introducing a lot of

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new characters this book, because it's people that we haven't

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actually met in person, and a lot of like Red

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shirts for lack of a better way of saying it.

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And so I think that this is beginning to sort

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of wash over me at this point, and I'm trying

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to remember. I feel like, Michael, was it you or

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somebody in the discord maybe that was asking like, how

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did you feel about this book in comparison to Battleground,

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which is the up till recently, like the most recent

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dressden Files book, we just had twelve months come out,

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and twelve months, in my opinion, is way better than

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Battleground was. Michael says, I think that was rob okay,

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and sorry Michael. He also says I'd be trying to

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hit the Desperado Club or Club Banquisher to grab some beers,

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eat carbyist sugariest crap they have, and maybe swing by

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the Bitch's room to try to check out Snail Trail

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in her Mom's act. Snail Trail is just so awful.

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I hate it so much. And I haven't read the

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new Butcher File, the new Dress and Files books yet.

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I lo Butcher Files. Loo. Yeah. So I will try

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not to give spoilers for Battleground, but I will say

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both Peace Talks and Battleground I found really lacking, and

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it definitely feels going back and reading them over again

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in the context of the greater series, like Butcher was

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off his game when he wrote them. Setting that aside,

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there's a lot of inconsistencies to me in character behavior,

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things that it seems like he just forgot about, you know.

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But setting all of those issues aside, the biggest difficulty

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for me and the block to getting into the book

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or remembering the book in much detail. For Battleground, Peace Talks,

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there's a lot more dialogue, and that's part of why

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it's more memorable to me in certain ways. Battleground is

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this like balls out fight from almost start to finish

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in a way that began to bleed together for me,

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pun intended, and it was very difficult to sustain. The

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kind of relentless is the word that I use a

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lot when I talk about that book. That relentless onslaught

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of enemies and death and near misses and descriptions of

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buildings falling and descriptions of people dying, and descriptions of

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you know, baby carriages turned over in the street with

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a bloodstain inside, and just like it's a lot of

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awful things packed together thrown at you in a way

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that feels like there are times where that kind of

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thing really can work, where, for example, Fury Road is

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a movie that as soon as you sit down, it

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feels like you have already hit forty miles an hour,

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and then you get to like one twenty within ten minutes,

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and the movie never drops below one twenty again, and

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then it's over and you're just exhausted at the end,

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but you're also like, that was incredible, what a ride.

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Oh my god, let's go again. You know. One of

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the best movies I've ever seen, period and an example

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of when relentlessness works, but you gotta be really careful

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with it. And I feel like I'm reaching a point

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in this book where the relentlessness is starting to overpower me,

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and I am finding myself having to rewind a lot.

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I am just completely glazing over missing sections and having

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to go back descriptions of things that I'm like, wait,

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why is that happening? I must have missed something even

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though I was listening. But there is so much being

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told to me that it can't track it all, and

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I'm really struggling with like whether or not this is

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something that's like truly a narrative problem, or if it's

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just a me problem, it's certainly possible it's just a

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me problem. And for other people this works really well,

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and I think it's just a matter of like what

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you prioritize when you're reading and what you like, you know.

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For me, my favorite Dress and Files books are like

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twelve Months in Ghost Story, which are two of the

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ones that most people seem to not like because they

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have the least of Harry broiding out and beating the

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shit out of people, and the most of him being

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really introspective and not being able to use his magic

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the way he used to. And I am all about

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the introspection and the long overdue conversations between characters and

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the getting to see something that you wouldn't otherwise have

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seen because these circumstances are so specific and minded to

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make you be here now, you know. And so I

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am very much I really love the Dress and Files books,

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But I am very much in the minority in terms

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of overall audience regarding what I like about the series.

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You know, it's really not about Harry being a badass.

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That's not what I'm there for, and that I know

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is like a minority opinion. So I think Dungeon Crawler Carl.

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I won't say it has the same demographic because like

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the Dress and Files fandom has been very male dominated

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from the spaces that I've seen, and Dungeon Crawler Carl

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has felt like, I have seen just as many women

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fangirling out as men in online spaces. Granted I haven't

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been in as many because I'm unspoiled, but I feel

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like maybe the appeal is the fighting for a lot

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of people, and so perhaps me being like this is

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just too much of this is not an opinion that

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is going to be shared by many other people, and

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so I just want to like put that out there

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at the top that like the way that I feel

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about this so far, I understand I might this might

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not be a very popular opinion. It is an opinion.

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It's just preference. You know. This is not me saying

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that this book is less good, because this book is

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clearly very carefully thought out. It's not like it doesn't

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feel sloppy. There's nothing about this that is seeming like

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the authors sleep walking through it in some of the

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ways that some books that I just mentioned might feel.

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But it's just not really appealing to what I care

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about as much. So, William Jones says, there certainly is

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a ton going on. It works for me because as

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I reread these books almost religiously, I also wonder about

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that aspect is the way that I'm covering the books.

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Sometimes it can do a property big favors. Sometimes it

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just makes it more difficult for me to absorb everything,

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And it really can depend. There are times where a

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lot of action and me stopping to talk about it

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works though, where it's almost like I would have missed

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XYZ in the action if there hadn't been this moment

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where we actually like stopped and talked about it chapter

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by chapter. So you know, I don't want to say

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that tons of action doesn't work for coverage, because that's

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not necessarily true. It's totally dependent on circumstance and the

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story itself. But I can't help but wonder with this book,

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if maybe, like plowing through the front end of it

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in a way that I might while I was reading

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it for fun and by myself versus reading it for coverage,

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might it might hit different for me doing it that way,

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you know. And it's just like breaking it into these

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sections that makes it feel like it's all kind of

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slowed down some and a little bit of a slog.

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I'm gonna say it, just like there. It's weird because

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I don't really feel like it is entirety, but because

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there are these moments that there are wonderful things happening

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that are so exciting and new and people showing up

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that we are finally getting to meet, and insights and things,

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and you know, but it feels like those moments are

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peppered in amongst the rest being really really heavy. So

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it's like a fruitcake where you've got the real, real,

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like dense cake and every now and then you hit

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a bright piece of lovely fruit or nut, but you've

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got this really intense cake surrounding it and you get

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full quick. Jeff says in the chat, Hi, Jeff, I

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like it better than the last moment, mostly because I

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hate the card mechanics. That is fair, battles like this

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get overwhelming, but that's kind of how battles are in reality,

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so I understand why it's happening. That said, I would

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love more flashbacks or gentle meditations to break up the

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horror the card mechanics. I completely get why you feel

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that way, Jeff. And honestly, like I kind of thought

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I was gonna feel that way in the last book,

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but because the AI wound up like sidestepping so much

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of the card mechanics, I actually I felt like we

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escaped what I thought it was going to be, Like

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I thought it would be way worse. But uh, and yeah,

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this being how battles are in reality, Like, I won't

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argue with that. I just don't necessarily want to read

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about that. But it, you know, it's the sort of

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thing where it's like, definitely not arguing that it's not realistic.

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It's just more like I don't like it that's just

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gonna happen. So saying all this, I am not going

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to get into detail, as I have said many times

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already this book, about each of the moves that are

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being made, because I just don't think it's necessary or important.

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If it turns out part of it was necessary slash important,

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I'm certain that will be brought to my attention later

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and I can reference it when I have to if

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I have to. But at this part we get a

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little bit of information about the Reavers, which is the

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name of these dudes in uh, oh my god, you guys.

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You know, the one that everybody's so excited about is

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getting redone that I think is like overrated. And these guys.

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It's sort of interesting because, like in this, the reavers

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are like barely human beings anymore. I knew the reavers

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were all robot with just a little bit of biological

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brain left over hidden somewhere inside their robot shells, and

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they could shapeshift, sort of something about nanobot sized individual

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machines all coming together to make one. These mercenaries were

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somewhere between more robotic than those weird nebulars and certainly

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a lot scarier. And this is when we get the descriptor,

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which starts with the AI being like, Okay, look, these

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guys really shouldn't be here. They don't fit the aesthetic.

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I've already told them that we're not doing this next floor.

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They've proposed some updates that I've rejected. They already know

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about it. I also made sure they were only allowed

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to come in their light armor, because if they came

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here with everything, that would be y'all'll be fucking toast

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to understand why a perfectly normal person this cracked me up. Guys,

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I'm not gonna lie. Why a perfectly normal person would

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want to slowly turn himself into a robot whose sole

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purpose is to invade planetary colonies, shoot innocent civilians, and

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spend all day believing he's a fascist, fighting patriot of

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industrial capitalism. You have to first understand where these guys

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come from. Blah blah blah, tough childhood and the pollution show,

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shadow of the behemoth reaver moons, where most of the

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physical goods in the galaxy or manufactured blah blah, drug

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street gangs, eighty percent taxes, boohoom my mommy is a hooker,

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no way out, et cetera. You know the story, I

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am so sorry. But if that isn't just like absolutely

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it's it's so it's such an unkind way of saying everything,

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but it isn't even really leaving anything out. It just

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feels like, no, that's actual, pretty fucking good summation. But

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also the AI goes on to really be like these

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dudes specifically that are here, though I don't want you

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feeling like these guys are like the product of circumstance

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that you should, you know, be sorry for them, because

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these are dudes who have opted in repeatedly, and so

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if they're here, they've really decided to do this thing,

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and they are different. And let's see. Gunny here was

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once known as mister Jake Tordokai. His designation changes each

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time he's deployed. At this moment, seconds before his four

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hundred cycle journey to gain Reaver citizenship comes to a

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permanent and abrupt end at the draws of a pist off,

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confused child soldier, he is known as X two. He

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has twenty three enhancements to his body. We might as

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well add a bit of context. Gaining citizenship comes with

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profit sharing and additional financial benefit, but is a pain

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in the ass. You lose your biological form to get

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your foot in the door. The first upgrade is free.

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Anything else, There's only two ways to do it. You

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can pay for all of it yourself, which is pretty

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much a non starter. Or you can work for the

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reavers for free. They'll feed you, house you, and you

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get all the healthcare you want. That plus one more

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upgrade in exchange for a three cycle deployments worth of work.

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And the work ain't easy. All that to say, these

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guys have been fighting a lot longer than you have.

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This isn't their home turf, and they're not used to

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Option three enhancement zone fighting techniques, but they should not

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be underestimated. So yeah, what an odd thing to drop

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in here. I am really curious about exactly what the

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like process is front Denneman deciding what types of creatures

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he's going to include in the dungeon, because I could

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very much see it being sort of like whatever catches

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my fancy, I'm just throwing it in. I really like

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this thing that I just found out about going in,

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you know, And I don't know if there's more of

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a process to that, more of a method I would

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I'm not mad if there isn't. To be clear, if

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he's just throwing shitting because he thinks it's fun, completely

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valid and I'm enjoying the ride, so go ahead, But uh,

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I'm just curious about it. And let's see. At this point,

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more of the fan shaped shield started popping up in

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front of me. As I tried to see what the

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hell was going on. From the corner of my eye,

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I noticed Victory had appeared standing on the far corner

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of the building, quietly observing. A moment later, and she

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was joined by a second adjutant. I didn't RECOGNI eyes.

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This was a strange, antlered alien type I'd never seen before.

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All I could see was Tina's head popping up from

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the smoke and her shield going up and down, just

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like the wall protections of the castle behind us. For

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a moment three Tina's appeared someone having cast an illusion,

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but it was immediately dispelled. And the idea of like

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it going up and down and just being all over

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the place because people are just fighting at the base

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of the issue, you know what I'm saying, is very

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anxiety inducing to me. I was pleasantly surprised that by

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the end of this section Tina does not die, because

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I was sort of wondering, I'm still not certain she's

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making it to the end of this book, even but

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I was actually worried about her in a way that

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surprised me. So a bunch of people pull their cards

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and start summoning these creatures and what not, and then

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Donut yells that there's somebody behind Carl, and he turns

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around and beats the shit out of this guy to

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a degree that has one of the death Cult leader

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guy saying, holy gods, that's really nasty and I just, uh,

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you know what, We're gonna put a pin in that

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and come back to it, or just remember this moment. Also,

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I do want to mention the death cult leader guy

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Carl thinks is another iteration of Jesus. And as soon

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as he was like, oh it was a death cult

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leader guy, I just immediately pictured Jared Leto Jared Letto. Look, guys,

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you know I have mentioned many a time how being

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canceled that's not real. There are so many people out

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there accused of such horrible things and they are still

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getting work. And Jared Letto is a perfect example of

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one of these people that I don't understand how he

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is still being cast. He's not a great actor. He's fine,

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but he's not great. He hasn't been in a lot

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of hits recently, Like look at his filmography over the

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past few years, and it's been a lot of fucking stinkers,

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and he has been accused of a lot of really

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really gross behavior, including having like kind of a cults

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of his own. I firmly believe that Jared Leto is

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being cast in things because he's got dirt on somebody.

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I really believe that I'm not being cute. I think

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there has to be something like that going on, because

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otherwise I do not get it. And every time he

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turns up in something, it'll be something that I was

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otherwise interested in at the start of the trailer, and

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then his face appears and I immediately I am just like, oh,

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never mind, and I just completely clock out. I don't

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have any interest anymore so, and I know I'm not

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the only one with that response, So that's part of

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why I'm just like, how are they not seeing the

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results at the box office that people don't want to, like,

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you know, watch things he's in, and they're still putting

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him in stuff you can't talk about how it's about

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the bottom line because it doesn't work with him. I

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don't get it. NEA's got a bunch of laugh Ebojis

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Jeff says worst part of Blade Runner twenty forty nine

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A son that's seen it. It makes me wonder if former

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female colleagues like Claire Danes will work with him. I

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don't like, no idea what's going on there, man, but

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it's weird, and every now and then there'll be somebody

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like this who you just seem to not be able

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to get away from. And you're like, they have a

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really good agent or something because they are not talented enough.

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This is how I felt about Shilah Boof also, and

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he actually wound up sort of disappearing, but for a

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minute he was in everything, and I was like, why

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he's not a great actor. He's not particularly attractive, he's

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really ordinary looking. He doesn't really have a lot of

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screen presence. I was just sort of like, what that's

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the appeal? And eventually he just sort of, you know,

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dwindled and died. And I keep wanting that to happen

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to Jared Leto, and he's old enough now that I'm

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just like, if it hasn't happened yet, he's just gonna

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wind up getting too oled to cast for certain things

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and I just have to wait for the natural process

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of Hollywood. But I had hoped it would happen before

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that because of who he is as a person. So anyway,

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this is just a this is immediately who I pictured

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here in this moment, and this is when Jamal appears.

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This fucking dude. He disappeared into the chaos, only to

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appear a moment later, rising out of the smoke like

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he'd somehow managed to jump without legs, a squirming mercenary

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in his mouth before disappearing again. Get it, Jamal, good

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for you. And this is when he gets the hingle

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about some trap beginning to activate. Somebody was arming a

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ton of automatons, all with equipped satchel explosives explosives. I

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checked my map, making sure this wasn't one of our guys.

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It wasn't. That half of the battlefield was all purple dots,

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along with a few of the reanimated mages. I scoffed,

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you motherfuckers. Might be experienced, you might be battle hardened,

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but you're in my playground now. So Carl warns everybody

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to brace and he casts Tripper, which very much delighted

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me because this was an ability that when it appeared,

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I was sort of like, that is that could be

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really helpful, but it could also bite you in the

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ass so bad, and like, I just want to see

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it be used in a really exciting way, and this

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really fit the bill. The explosion when it came was

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bigger than I was expecting. One moment my map was

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a convoluted mess, and then we were all knocked off

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our feet, everyone but me and a few others with

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steady buffs. Still, it felt as if i'd been kicked

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in the chest by a horse. I took a blast

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of heat damage, but not much. Wrend blew across the

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roof like he'd been punted, disappearing back behind me and

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over the far edge, which he's fine, but I definitely

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had a moment of like, oh no. The smoke that

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covered the battlefield seemed to get sucked into the explosion,

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and in the moments after everything suddenly in view, it

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seemed the world was paused. And I want to mention

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my ear drums were blown out, and even though I

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didn't want to admit it to myself, I was getting

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used to the feeling. There was something comforting about that

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specific kind of pain. That's not good. Nope, nope, not good,

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not good. Oh boy. Anyway, all the cyborgs were on

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the ground, overwhelmed and struggling. The entire area where the

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automatons had been gathered was nothing but a crater, and

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all the cyborgs in that area were just gone. A sizzling,

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metallic torso landed heavily on the roof behind me. I

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couldn't hear it, but I could feel it. Most of

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The veterans were also on their backs, though miraculously, my

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feed said none had died in the blast. Tina was

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on her back, health in the red, all her shields gone.

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I could see she was crying out, but I couldn't hear.

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I imagined she was crying for her mother, which is awful.

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And he just doesn't have the emotional moment here with

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this that I wanted. It's just an observation and then

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he moves on to the next thing. I was just like, oh, bro,

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you are just so not okay. It's just not okay.

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The current crawlers were the first to get to their feet,

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and in a situation like this, he who recovers fastest wins.

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They moved to finish off the defenders. Our men and

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women crawled over the remaining cyborgs like an army of ants.

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In moments, it was done. And this is when Donut

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is like, everybody, watch out for the mages because they

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are gonna be worms coming out of them, so don't

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get got by these fucking worms. The death Cult leader

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is sitting next to him and he says something. Carl's

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like what, And he says, I said, I could really

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use a nice refreshing drink right about now want to

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join me, which I think is meant to be like

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a kool aid joke, I think, but uh yeah, you know,

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one of those. And then we get an alert from

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Donut that last mage is fleeing and it's Lonnie and

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Carl acted daughter's kiss jumps off the second story and

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lands on him and it kills him. So that's a

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wrap on that. So then we jump to Rosetta who's

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messaging with Karl and is like, the door disappeared, but

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they can use it again. We're going to have to

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pull the safe room away from the castle and have

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permanent guards on it, or else just kill the entrance completely,

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which might be better. And he is like, I just

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don't want to lose access to Mordecai in the safe room,

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so you know, And he says, since they can only

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bring a limited number of NPCs into their own safe room,

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they can't do a full scale invasion through that door,

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but we do need to isolate it. We need to

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get back on that now while we decide what to do.

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None of that is going to matter if we don't

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beat these assholes back. But for the next few minutes,

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focus on helping Louis open the roof. We were cleaning

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up after the attack, resetting our defenses and looting the

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bad guys before the main force would be on us

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in ten or fifteen minutes. They probably wouldn't march right

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into us now that their beachhead was closed off, but

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we had to be ready. We had more defenders appearing

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by the moment, including Boomers one hundred and six Bloody Leeches,

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along with the scattered one hundred fourth members of the

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Naughty Little Piggies who'd come running the moment we were attacked.

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Florin said he was pretty sure Prince Stallwar of the

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Skull Empire was with them leading the charge. In some ways,

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I wish we didn't have these pauses between fights. The

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ups and downs felt too jarring. I didn't like having

474
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,319
to think about what was going to happen. I just

475
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,559
wanted it to happen, which I really do understand that

476
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,759
it's the kind of thing he's thinking about, Like, we

477
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,680
just need to get it over with. These breaks are

478
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:54,200
absolutely crucial to be able to set up your traps

479
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,319
and barriers and whatnot. Though, dude, like, thank God for them,

480
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:05,480
you know. So this is when Samantha arrives, looks around

481
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:07,119
and it's like, oh my god, did you have another

482
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,480
party without telling me? Ah, Samantha, I really have been

483
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,240
missing you. Where you been? Girl? I need you to

484
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,279
get it up on this fighting a little bit more.

485
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:23,079
So we start thirty two, Mordecai saying, you do need

486
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:25,880
to destroy the bait shop and do it now. They

487
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,920
can just drop a nuke through that door and be

488
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,359
done with it, which was what I had actually been

489
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,920
thinking way back when we first find out about the door,

490
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,599
and I had a moment of like, oh my god,

491
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,039
are they just gonna you know, because they put guards

492
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:41,920
on it. I think it's Beaumo and Sledge. But all

493
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,720
I could think was like, guards aren't going to do

494
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:46,240
shit if they just decide to put an explosive in

495
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:49,720
there and really like a big one, which they haven't done,

496
00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:51,680
and I'm not sure why not if they just don't

497
00:32:51,680 --> 00:33:00,640
have access to something like that or what. So, Mortchai

498
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,880
points out, like, we have lost almost all of our mages,

499
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,279
so it's not like there's enough protections remaining that we

500
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,480
can really protect ourselves in that way, and they could

501
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:15,079
still try that if we don't get rid of this

502
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:23,319
doggy door or yeah, the bait shop itself. So the

503
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:27,319
Orc prints had come riding in some giant creature that

504
00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:30,160
looked like a cross between a hippopotamus and a yak.

505
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,720
Decked out and glittering opalescent armor covered with feathers, The

506
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:38,160
Orcs all wore flags on their backs like they were

507
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,680
feudal Japanese warriors. The flags were black vertical rectangles with

508
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:47,000
a shimmering silver Orc skull in the center. It made

509
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:49,720
it easy to distinguish the Orc troopers from the others.

510
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,079
The Bone Clan of the Skull Empire seemed to favor

511
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:57,559
larger sized mercenaries. While the Orc team looked powerful, there

512
00:33:57,559 --> 00:33:59,480
weren't that many of them compared to the others. There

513
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,759
were only one thousand or so. As far as we

514
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:05,400
could see. It appeared all of the Operatics were also

515
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:08,440
out there, along with the healthy mix of everyone else.

516
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:11,360
It was no wonder Florin had been forced to fall back,

517
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,960
and Tippett, who was looking at this with Carl, is

518
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:18,519
just like, well, we are absolutely fucked, aren't we. And

519
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:21,119
Carl's like, were you supposed to be bringing hope with

520
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:23,480
you when you came? And He's just like, we just

521
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:26,840
didn't want you to die, all along keeping you company.

522
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,239
This is when Doughnut clocks that that's not Prince Stalwart,

523
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,920
and it turns out it's their father who barren. His

524
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:43,800
victory is his sister, and she's really startled because he

525
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,639
isn't supposed to be in the mix anymore. He doesn't

526
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:51,840
really do this sort of thing, so let's see, his

527
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,400
appearance was probably a very last minute decision. It's news

528
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,559
to me Russ hasn't participated in faction wars in quite

529
00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:01,320
a long time, since he was a pret himself. I

530
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,400
wonder if he's sober, which is an interesting question. This

531
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,079
is more or less likely if he's sober. I'm not

532
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:12,679
sure which way the uh you know that influences things.

533
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,599
So donat who's using the size up. She's looking at

534
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,519
him and like he's seventy eight. His main weapon is

535
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:25,800
a whip, and he has like dozens and dozens of spells.

536
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,960
I don't even understand this. She calls him a copy

537
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,239
dog instead of a copycat, which I did enjoy that

538
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,719
little joke. I thought that was fun. And Tippin says

539
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,480
he likely has a ring of divine suffering for the

540
00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:43,000
stats and the levels that come with charging the ring

541
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:47,840
and a necklace of indelible woe for the spells uh.

542
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,400
It trades out a random spell of your own for

543
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,800
a spell of a targets. If you kill the target,

544
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,280
it'll be one of their five highest level spells. Like

545
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,039
the Divine Suffering Ring, it only works on crawlers and

546
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:02,119
people like me. It's not all that useful unless you're

547
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:05,039
a complete psychopath with a bunch of spells you can't

548
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:08,280
afford to lose, or you can't afford to lose. Sorry.

549
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:12,800
They agreed to stop using it because combatants were farming

550
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,559
crawlers to power it up and it was a little messy.

551
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:20,719
And Carl says, and the Divine Suffering Ring is any better,

552
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,320
and he says, it's a long story, but trust me,

553
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:27,760
the necklace is worse, much worse. And I'm really curious

554
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,480
about exactly why that is, like what, you know what

555
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:38,840
I'm saying, very very curious. And also I'm worried that

556
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,079
this is going to be something that Carl decides he wants, like,

557
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:49,599
I don't need you getting any more divine horrible artifacts, sir,

558
00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:53,159
Please don't. I just really hope he doesn't. I know

559
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,039
that he says like they agreed to stop using it,

560
00:36:56,079 --> 00:37:00,840
but apparently Rose, like you know, still here with the

561
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,360
results of it. So maybe he's not wearing it and

562
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,639
it's just that the results are permanent. I'm not sure.

563
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,719
So Donut sat on the counter with a Guildhall Bobka

564
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,719
animatedly going back and forth about purchasable base upgrades. Rosetta

565
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,159
was with her, but she had a look on her

566
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:23,079
face that suggested she was about to throttle the cat.

567
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,599
Tippitt had told her about King Rust's presence, but she

568
00:37:26,639 --> 00:37:30,360
hadn't shown any outward reaction at all. She'd called Donut

569
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,679
over and insisted we spend the last of our pooled

570
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,559
money to defend the base. And so, yeah, there had

571
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:40,599
been this moment where tippd has a reaction to the

572
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:42,280
fact that Rust is here and is like, oh God,

573
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,000
I need to tell her, indicating they definitely have some

574
00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:48,519
sort of history between them. And then there's this thing

575
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:55,559
with Donut that I think is interesting. Donut had that determined,

576
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:57,920
smug look on her face that meant she was going

577
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,559
to get her way, and if she didn't, she wouldn't

578
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:07,400
shut up about it. So Donut, this is something like

579
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:12,360
Carl later points out that when she's on the battlefield

580
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:16,320
she manages to like get serious, you know, for donut,

581
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,159
but one on one her stubbornness was growing, her snippiness

582
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:28,840
was ratcheted even higher than usual. And I think that

583
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:36,559
it's basically like a coping mechanism. Here's my theory. She

584
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,480
is having to be so focused and perform so completely

585
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:45,079
when she is on the battlefield as a leader that

586
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:50,000
it's exhausting her. And so when she has her downtime,

587
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,480
you know, it's like she doesn't need to keep putting

588
00:38:55,519 --> 00:39:00,960
on a show in that way anymore, and maybe is

589
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,519
getting a little high on her own supply as well.

590
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:06,639
Where you can start. If you know you have people

591
00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:09,760
who are following you and who are willing to do

592
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,840
what you tell them in a battle, you can start

593
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,719
to feel like you just deserve to be listened to

594
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,159
at all times and obeyed. I don't know, but there's

595
00:39:18,199 --> 00:39:21,199
also a part of me that's like, is it simply

596
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,320
that she can act like a little bit of a

597
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,400
child here because the stakes aren't as high, it's like

598
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,920
safe to do it, and so she can't sustain this

599
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:39,239
like impressive leader persona all the time. And this is

600
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,280
when she's allowed to just be kind of petulant and immature.

601
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:48,880
I don't know. I don't know, but anyway, there comes

602
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,119
a point where she starts to like pull rank and

603
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,760
is telling uh Rosetta like, you know, if I said

604
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,400
that it's happening, I'm higher rank than you. If I

605
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,760
say it's fine, it's final, and Carl has to be

606
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,760
like Donna. They came here to help us, Please don't

607
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:13,239
be a dick to them. There's also a mention of

608
00:40:13,639 --> 00:40:21,280
the Slugglos and Justice Light and that Imani went into

609
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,760
the room that most of the Slugglos are like living

610
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,599
in right now, and she doesn't want to talk about it,

611
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:31,079
but she said that she would never go in there again.

612
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:36,920
I don't know what's going on there. There's a mention

613
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:43,599
here something especially horrific had happened to Justice Light during

614
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:46,599
his indentureship, and it had changed him even further the

615
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:49,719
incident when he lost his wing. I didn't know the story,

616
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,000
but I did know it had turned the somewhat morose

617
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:56,920
but proud skyfowl into a quiet, strange, obsessive, compulsive creature.

618
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,800
He had a few strange ticks, always moving his head

619
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,199
back and forth like he was hearing things. He muttered

620
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,960
to himself a lot. So there's this like piece of

621
00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:11,360
artwork that he's working on where he's folding paper and

622
00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:16,119
sewing it to another piece of paper, and Tippets says,

623
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,719
it's a like calming thing. That's just sort of nonsensical

624
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:24,679
to be doing something with his hands. That's you know,

625
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,840
it's sort of monotonous in a way that is kind

626
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,880
of meditative, is how I am imagining it. But I

627
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,119
am not so sure. There's something about this that feels

628
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:38,079
like this dude's making something and it's just that we

629
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:42,159
don't get it yet. That's my theory, is that this

630
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:49,039
is something more. I don't know. So I'm trying to

631
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:51,000
jump ahead a little here because I do have so

632
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:54,000
much to cover, and I'm like, forty minutes in already,

633
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,920
h oh, right here it is, donut. Are we sure

634
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,079
we trust this guy? He's obviously on stand. Carl says,

635
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:02,760
I trust him with my life, and she's like, yeah,

636
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,599
but you're trusting all of ours too, and he's like,

637
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,639
hopefully it won't get to that point. And I kind

638
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:09,039
of wanted to be like, it does feel like it's

639
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:15,679
kind of already point Carl, but you know I called

640
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,199
after Rosea. I get ready to close off the safe space,

641
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,280
but send out a five minute warning to everybody so

642
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,960
they can grab stuff if they need it and wait

643
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:26,880
until we're out too. Donut buy the hanger upgrade. We're

644
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,119
almost out of money, Carl. She then gasped with delight

645
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:33,599
as the Bobka emerged from the back of his little area,

646
00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:39,920
dragging several rolled up banners. So yeah, she agrees, and

647
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,880
she know she's a little bit of a brat about it,

648
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:48,199
but she eventually winds up going along and Russ is

649
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:53,039
coming at them wanting a parlay, so they go out

650
00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:55,280
to meet him. And the way that this works is

651
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,480
that Doughnut wants the plan is to basically make this

652
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:07,880
guy so angry that he does something stupid, and Carl

653
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:14,760
has the nerve to say something like people who are

654
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:22,639
angry make mistakes and Donut mutter something that he can't hear.

655
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,519
But I like to think she's like, yeah, no, fucking shit, dude,

656
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:33,440
look in the fucking mirror, Like Carl, I'm bro I

657
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:39,800
don't know how to tell you this, dude, My god.

658
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,119
He gets a message here from Florin, who is talking

659
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,760
about uh, we stopped the armor in its tracks, and

660
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:58,519
then warning Louis to seer clear of these weepers because

661
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:02,360
they're more high tech than they had anticipated the bad news.

662
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,559
The guys you're looking at most certainly know they lost

663
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:06,559
the whole regiment and aren't going to wait to get

664
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:11,559
sandwiched between you and the one oh first. So try

665
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:14,280
to keep them talking as long as they as you can.

666
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:16,920
I have caught you, Bautista, with what's left of the

667
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,239
one oh fifth, and they're keeping the west end opened

668
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,519
up at the very least they can keep an open

669
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:28,679
corridor of retreat into shantytown if you get overrun. So

670
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:35,239
as they approach the Orcus adjutant appears a grick syst

671
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,800
named Juan Shing Jinks, not Quanching, a similar type of

672
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:48,199
creature as Juanching Jinks, but taller and thinner, and they

673
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,960
get all of these messages that Carl has to turn off.

674
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,199
And as they're approaching, there's Colonel Tippett saying has anyone seen?

675
00:44:57,039 --> 00:44:59,760
And then the chat cuts off because of the way

676
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,440
this parlay works, and I was just like, oh, man,

677
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,880
has anybody seen who? What's going on? My first thought

678
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,719
was Rosetta and then I kind of dismissed it, but

679
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,679
as it turns out, I shouldn't have. He can't even

680
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:21,280
DM Donut while they're in this parlay bubble by the way,

681
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:31,639
So as I come forward, they notice that this orc

682
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:38,079
is like crying, laughing, crying. There's a sense of despair

683
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,119
and they're trying to figure out, like, what is going

684
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:46,480
on with this dude. It's like he's also enraged. He

685
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,639
wasn't just crying. He was angrily muttering to himself, saying

686
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:54,320
things to his adjutant and then putting his hands against

687
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,360
his own face in an odd woe is me gesture.

688
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,360
As we watched, he looked up into the air and

689
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,079
shook his giant fists. It was like a caricature of

690
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:09,519
someone having some sort of psychotic episode, and He's like,

691
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:12,880
what the fuck? And Victory's like, I do not know.

692
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:18,239
I guess you're gonna have to find out. And Donut

693
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,239
launch us into her little spiel that she's about to do,

694
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,199
where it's like we're gonna poke and prod at him

695
00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:28,440
and make him annoyed. And the way that the audiobook

696
00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:33,639
narrator does her voice is this very like affected, irritating,

697
00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:41,320
slightly higher pitched, more nasal voice than she normally has,

698
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:50,480
and unexpectedly Rust just kind of like gently stops her

699
00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:57,719
and is like, hey, stop, no, no, we're not We're

700
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:03,559
not doing this such a like kind of dial down

701
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:09,679
way that she actually does stop. And Carl has also

702
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,679
taken so aback that he just like lets this guy

703
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,639
keep talking in a way that I don't think Carl

704
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,320
ordinarily would have done. It's just that he is so

705
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,760
caught off guard at the attitude being not at all

706
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,320
what he was anticipating, that he really just doesn't know

707
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,719
how to respond and he's not even sure if it's

708
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:40,480
like for real. So he's like, did they show it

709
00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:44,159
to you? And Carl's like, what, they haven't shown us anything,

710
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:54,719
And he says, my daughter has taken control of one

711
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,480
of my cruisers and the whole crew they thought they

712
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:02,360
were following orders. They didn't realize that she was, like,

713
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:10,840
you know, suborning them. Basically, she has just sent out

714
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,320
a message that she is planning on taking the station

715
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,800
with the failsafe and activating it, and a reaction will

716
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,840
take place in the system Star and we will all die.

717
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:33,159
And Carl just starts to laugh so hard, which as

718
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,239
much as it feels very unhinged. I mean, I really

719
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,639
can't blame him, can you, considering what he just went

720
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,760
through deciding whether he wanted to flip the switch or not,

721
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:50,800
and he knows that now this simply will not work.

722
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:55,719
But nevertheless, to realize that maybe if he hadn't deleted it,

723
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,280
like this could still if he weren't me to wear

724
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:03,920
now and he maybe didn't have time to do it,

725
00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:10,960
like how all this could have gone, you know? But yeah,

726
00:49:11,039 --> 00:49:17,920
So this entire like situation is everyone believing that they

727
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,199
are about to die within about five hours, I think

728
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,280
is the amount of time it is going to take

729
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:32,840
until she reaches the destination. And it's it's so I

730
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,199
really really wonder what people are going to make of

731
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,039
the fact that Carl is like aware it's not going

732
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:42,920
to work the way everybody thinks. That's the part that

733
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,079
I'm the most curious about, because I feel like I

734
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:48,960
would I would be I don't know how many people

735
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,280
are going to get this information when he goes back

736
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,360
to his side. Is everyone they're going to have been updated?

737
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,639
Are they all going to have found out about this

738
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:02,280
or is it this sort of thing that like only

739
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,400
they know and they could kind of keep to themselves

740
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:10,039
until such point as they decide to reveal it. In

741
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:14,360
that case, it would be only Doughnut that really knew that.

742
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,679
He wasn't as worried about it as he maybe should

743
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,599
have been, were it not for some other secret ingredient here.

744
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:26,440
You know, I marched the Horde here to end this

745
00:50:26,519 --> 00:50:29,960
forest once and for all. There's glory in dying in battle.

746
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,519
And you might not believe this, but I respect you, Karl.

747
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,079
My sons do not see it, but you have bested

748
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:39,400
them multiple times. You have a warrior's heart. In another time,

749
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,159
there would have been honor to face you in battle

750
00:50:41,199 --> 00:50:44,639
and die. Instead of learning from their mistakes, you have

751
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:48,039
succeeded in just making them more angry, and they act

752
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:52,480
like petulant children. I came here to protect my family.

753
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,760
If we are to suffer further humiliations, at least he

754
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,440
who casts the shadow will be me and not my children,

755
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,960
who have won long lives in front of them and

756
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:10,480
Carl's like apparently not, since they're all here. He looked sad,

757
00:51:11,639 --> 00:51:15,559
utterly defeated. That moment my wife was killed, I should

758
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:21,239
have he trailed off. And this is when Doughnut chimes in,

759
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,519
and she's like, is this even real? This isn't like

760
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:30,960
some elaborate trick, And he doesn't even answer her, and

761
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,039
he says something about how his system will devolve into

762
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:41,639
chaos because the galaxy will be impacted by this system

763
00:51:41,679 --> 00:51:46,000
going down. The reavers will be fine and will likely

764
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:49,400
take advantage of the sudden power vacuum war will break out.

765
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:52,079
It will be the single most devastating disaster in all

766
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:56,239
of history, and this affects us. How was my immediate reaction?

767
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,840
But I choked it back. I wanted to keep him talking,

768
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,599
so instead I asked them why is she doing it?

769
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,920
She feels she's protecting the galaxy from an even worse fate.

770
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,960
She believes the current system aies insanity, is contagious and

771
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,719
will spread to the Center system if it's not dealt with,

772
00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:17,800
And Carl's like, so will it, And he basically says,

773
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,239
it's the sort of thing that's like, technically maybe possible

774
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,519
if every single bit of circumstance were to line up

775
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:32,079
exactly right, but so incredibly unlikely that I don't think

776
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:35,320
it's a threat, And apparently neither does anybody else, because

777
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,880
they had the chance to pull this veil safe and

778
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:44,480
they didn't take it. Let's see. All the analysts say

779
00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:48,000
it's not even remotely possible, but she is convinced. Both

780
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,320
the most stubborn and most superstitious, she's the most like

781
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:56,960
her mother. So Dona is like, so are we still

782
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,760
going to battle or not? Like what are we doing here?

783
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,239
And He's like, well, honestly, it depends on you. If

784
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:10,039
you want to go to battle, I will certainly do that.

785
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,320
If I were younger, absolutely I would. We have you.

786
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,280
Bet it will hurt, but we have you. And even

787
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,239
if you managed to knock us back today to hold

788
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,679
out until the next phase, you still wouldn't have won.

789
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,840
Stalwart has done well building this army. Despite the obstacles

790
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,679
this season, We've managed to accumulate the largest collection of

791
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,679
war mages ever assembled. We can kill you now with

792
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,800
the help of the other factions, or we could have

793
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,320
waited until later and done it on our own. You

794
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,199
would have been annihilated and it would not have been pretty.

795
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,079
And if not us, that lunatic architect Houston has been

796
00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:50,639
using this season's rules to open up his full arsenal.

797
00:53:51,559 --> 00:53:57,039
He sighed almost wistfully, and he met my eyes. I

798
00:53:57,079 --> 00:54:01,559
can admit this. Now, he's the only living creature in

799
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:09,519
this universe I fear, which I think is entirely valid.

800
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,480
I think he's like a villain that I find particularly

801
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:17,159
upsetting on a level that I haven't with almost anybody else,

802
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:26,519
So that tracks completely for me. And then he says,

803
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:28,519
I want you to send my daughter a message. I

804
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:30,440
want you to ask her to stop on behalf of

805
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,280
the people of Earth. I doubt she'll listen, but maybe.

806
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,400
And Don'nut's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on,

807
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:45,000
She's just gonna press a button. Carlon had more safeties

808
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:50,320
on his bank account. How is this possible? The security

809
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,440
on a satellite is impenetrable. The satellite itself has a

810
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,039
fail safe that will cause it to explode should anyone

811
00:54:56,119 --> 00:55:03,920
unauthorized attempt to break into systems. Gull Empire manufactures the satellites.

812
00:55:04,519 --> 00:55:06,880
We build back doors into everything so they can't be

813
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,920
used against us. This was a secret until my daughter

814
00:55:10,039 --> 00:55:13,960
announced it to the whole galaxy. I'm afraid that stock

815
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,880
certificate you own carl is losing significant value by the moment,

816
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:23,639
which is wild that she decided to show their hand

817
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,920
on that. I guess why not your whole family's here.

818
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,360
You think you're about to die? What do you care?

819
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:36,719
But it is very, very funny. Why doesn't the AI

820
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,679
stop her? Doesn't it have the system in quarantine? She's

821
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,480
out of zone? The AI controls the tunnel gate because

822
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:46,920
the controller must be in orbit of the game planet.

823
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,679
The security system in orbit around the second planet is

824
00:55:49,679 --> 00:55:54,119
deliberately staged well out of the system's control. They should

825
00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:57,840
have kept the old style gates active. Anyway, the AI

826
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,159
couldn't control those, the MUDs would never have gone bankrupt.

827
00:56:03,559 --> 00:56:06,880
So this confused me a little bit because, like, you know,

828
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:13,400
we have that moment when Carl removes the thing I

829
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,039
can't even remember what it was called, and he sees

830
00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:20,760
like this sort of stain spreading across the map, as

831
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:26,400
if to indicate the influence of the AI is spreading. Evidently,

832
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:30,599
if that is happening, no, like other people haven't detected

833
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:35,599
it yet, I don't know why not. But yeah, I

834
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:40,400
don't know. This whole thing is is. There's so much

835
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,400
to this that I'm having trouble keeping track. So if

836
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,800
anybody feels like explaining it to me, like I'm five,

837
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:52,199
please feel free. Uh let me get this straight. You

838
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,960
want me to talk to your daughter. You have millions

839
00:56:56,039 --> 00:56:59,480
upon millions of citizens, including children, on the surface. If

840
00:56:59,519 --> 00:57:02,599
she backs, I can't stop whatever happens next down there,

841
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:06,280
but they will be safe. And this is when Carl

842
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,519
says that he doesn't really speak for humanity, but the

843
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:13,159
idea of sacrificing the rest of my people in exchange

844
00:57:13,159 --> 00:57:15,840
for the deaths of all of you plus causing war

845
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,280
doesn't seem like a bad trade off to me, which

846
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,239
is fair. Does that also mean there won't be any

847
00:57:24,239 --> 00:57:28,000
more crawls? There will always be crawls. We might miss

848
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,000
a season or two while the galaxy settles, but there

849
00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:35,039
will always be crawls. There is nothing anybody can do

850
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,559
to stop that. And this is when Carl says, then

851
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:43,000
what exactly do we get out of helping you? And

852
00:57:43,039 --> 00:57:47,760
then we have a smash cut to Rust walking away.

853
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:50,599
So there's been some negotiation that happened that we don't

854
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:58,960
actually get to see. So Seraphim says, my guess would

855
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,119
be he turned off the system that would alert them

856
00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:05,039
that AI's sphere of influence was changing when he turned

857
00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:09,480
off all the safeties. Okay, Michael says, my guess, just

858
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,800
because the AI can now influence doesn't mean it has

859
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,079
to exert that power. It's keeping it under wraps. Plus

860
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:26,360
Seraphem's thing, okay, fair so donuts. First question, of course,

861
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,840
is like is he telling us the truth? Is? Are

862
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,960
we all about to die? We have to go back

863
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:39,639
Mongo's all alone and immediately messages Zev, who is like, yes,

864
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,039
it is true, and Carl has to DM her and

865
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:46,199
be like, don't react out loud to me saying this,

866
00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:50,840
but it's not gonna work. We have to behave as

867
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,159
if we think it is gonna work and get him

868
00:58:54,159 --> 00:58:59,119
to withdraw. I'll make the plea to his daughter even

869
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:01,719
though I think what I do, She'll definitely still push

870
00:59:01,719 --> 00:59:05,079
the button, and she's, of course like, how do you

871
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:07,800
know it won't work? And he just says, call it

872
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:12,840
a hunch, and she's like, uh, is that the right

873
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,559
word for something that's fucking enormous when it's like the

874
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:20,599
solar system. But the way that she is trusting Carl

875
00:59:21,639 --> 00:59:25,320
is wonderful. I really really appreciate that they have this

876
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:32,519
level between them, and I returned my gaze to King Rust.

877
00:59:33,039 --> 00:59:36,880
The large orc continued his slow plod back to his side,

878
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,679
now flanked by a pair of massive Orc guards. I

879
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,639
was glad he'd come instead of his son. I still

880
00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:45,920
plan on killing the old Orc, but he seemed so

881
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:49,800
much more reasonable than his child. This last minute reprieve

882
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,199
was almost too good to be true. And that's when

883
00:59:54,320 --> 01:00:02,320
Rosetta appeared in a movement so fast she'd clearly been

884
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,039
practicing it. She flipped in the air, landing on the

885
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:09,920
back of the yak behind the king, tossed the whip

886
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,679
around the neck of the king, and yanked the head

887
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:22,039
flew from his body like a popped champagne cork. Yeah,

888
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:30,760
so then all his people charge yikes, yikes. Now look,

889
01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:35,760
am I mad at Rosetta. No. I have a feeling

890
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,760
he did something pretty fucking horrific for her to be

891
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:46,400
this careful about getting at it. I don't know what

892
01:00:46,679 --> 01:00:50,880
she knows about any of the negotiations at all. I

893
01:00:51,519 --> 01:00:59,159
suspect nothing. I am really curious once she finds out,

894
01:00:59,199 --> 01:01:00,960
if she does, if she if she survives long enough

895
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,199
for Carl to be like, here's what was going to happen,

896
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:08,119
if she's gonna be like, oh shit, sorry, or if

897
01:01:08,159 --> 01:01:10,239
she'll be like I did what I did, I said

898
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,440
what I said. I stand by no apologies. No regrets.

899
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,920
I kind of feel like it's probably the second one,

900
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,039
but uh, it's just such a special circumstance right now,

901
01:01:20,159 --> 01:01:23,880
you know, I can't tell. Also, like do kings rust

902
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:31,159
do kings? Do king rusts? People know about the fail

903
01:01:31,239 --> 01:01:35,079
safe thing either, I don't know what anybody knows, so

904
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:42,880
everything is very dependent on other things, you know. But uh,

905
01:01:44,119 --> 01:01:48,360
I can't lie. I really was impressed with her pulling

906
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,280
this off. And he's not a warlord as well, so

907
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,280
like I had a moment of thinking, oh, this could

908
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,199
be a game changer, that he's already dead, and then

909
01:01:56,239 --> 01:02:01,360
I realized, like, not really, it's you know, he's not

910
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,000
high level enough for this to be like a decisive thing,

911
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:12,400
which is a shame. Oh well, with that, guys, I'm

912
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,039
going to wrap up and be like within an hour

913
01:02:16,119 --> 01:02:19,239
for the first time and god knows how long. So

914
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,159
pretty cool. I think I appreciate everybody coming and hanging

915
01:02:26,199 --> 01:02:28,440
out with me. Thank you Michael again for commissioning this,

916
01:02:29,199 --> 01:02:31,599
and I hope that you all are enjoying the coverage.

917
01:02:31,840 --> 01:03:05,000
Until next time to the motherfuckers. That was an Unspoiled

918
01:03:05,079 --> 01:03:06,199
Network podcast.