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<v Speaker 1>What if sanctuary wasn't just a place, but a way

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<v Speaker 1>of living? Welcome to the Sanctuary Network, your weekly home

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<v Speaker 1>for conversations that awaken the heart, heal the body, and

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<v Speaker 1>inspire the spirit. I'm your host, Mary Ellen Poppock, the

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<v Speaker 1>creator of Spirit Fest and the Natural Wellness Expos. For

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<v Speaker 1>two decades, I've been creating spaces, now creating a bold

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<v Speaker 1>new broadcast for mind, body, and spirit. where seekers, healers,

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<v Speaker 1>and teachers come together to share wisdom, laughter, and transformation.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen what happens when communities gather. People become enlivened. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>through the Sanctuary Network, that same spirit is reaching you,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you are in the world. Each week, we'll sit

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<v Speaker 1>down with thought leaders, authors, and everyday visionaries. We'll also

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<v Speaker 1>shine a light on the grassroots voices of the sanctuary marketplace.

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<v Speaker 1>the healers, vendors, and practitioners who make this movement thrive.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't just another show. It's your sanctuary, a space

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<v Speaker 1>to pause, reflect, and reconnect with what matters most. So

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<v Speaker 1>take a deep breath, open your heart, and join me. Together,

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<v Speaker 1>let's step into the sanctuary. Welcome everyone to the Sanctuary

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<v Speaker 1>for Mind, Body and Spirit. Today's podcast is a topic

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<v Speaker 1>that I am extremely passionate about, as I know many

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<v Speaker 1>of you are as well. We're talking about animals with

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<v Speaker 1>a very seasoned and very good professional animal communicator. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know we've got a lot of really fun things

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. So Nicole Harp, thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I want, let me give everyone a proper introduction to Nicole.

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<v Speaker 1>She's an author, award-winning artist, professional interspecies animal communicator, who

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<v Speaker 1>has been featured on numerous metaphysical podcasts and regularly teaches

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<v Speaker 1>soul painting classes at the Edgar Cayce Center for Enlightenment,

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<v Speaker 1>where she guides participants beyond the analytical mind and into

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<v Speaker 1>creative heart-centered expression. She also offers animal communication mentorship programs,

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<v Speaker 1>supporting others in developing their intuitive abilities and deepening their

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<v Speaker 1>connection with animals. She's the author of Colors of Consciousness,

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<v Speaker 1>25 Soul Paintings, a collection exploring the intersection of art, energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and spiritual awareness. And she is coming to us from Norfolk,

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia today. So welcome, Nicole, again. Thank you. You were

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<v Speaker 1>at our Spirit Fest in Virginia Beach. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>This year and the year, year before. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you at our DC show too? I want to say.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't, I don't really do the circuit, but. Okay. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Noted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I do some, some at the ARE, but no,

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<v Speaker 2>I love your festival because it's, it's just totally different,

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<v Speaker 2>different group of people, different energy, but yeah, it was,

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<v Speaker 2>it was back to back. Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>We've already got our date set for next year. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be, I think just a week later,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be mid October next year. So anytime's good.

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<v Speaker 1>But we love coming to Virginia Beach. The energy there

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<v Speaker 1>is also really special. You know, we could say that

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<v Speaker 1>about every place we go, but it really is unique.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're doing a lot more with the Edgar Cayce people, too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is some of the best, highest level

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<v Speaker 1>information out there, especially because his readings were unadulterated. In

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<v Speaker 1>other words, it was before the Internet and everything. But

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<v Speaker 1>as I was reading your biography... I was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about what some of the similarities are between your

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<v Speaker 1>creative work with art and your communication with the animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that you're using a similar talent or

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<v Speaker 1>communication style when you're doing that? This was just totally

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<v Speaker 1>off the cuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's funny that that's off the cuff because I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking while you were reading, immediately what came to

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<v Speaker 2>mind is how animal communication and the act of creating

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<v Speaker 2>They're both innate to us. We come in the world

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<v Speaker 2>being able to do it. Both we kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>lose somewhere down the line. Right. So in communication, you

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<v Speaker 2>come in being able to communicate or we're nonverbal. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we, you know, unless you have and then the

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<v Speaker 2>verbal starts, the words start to take over and then

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<v Speaker 2>the telepathic starts to fall away. Unless you have a

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<v Speaker 2>family that really nurtures and cultivates that, right? Same thing

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<v Speaker 2>with creativity. We're making, we're creating like bada bing, bada

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<v Speaker 2>bada bing, bada boom as kids. We're just doing it

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. We don't think twice about it. And

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<v Speaker 2>then somewhere that falls away, right? And creativity doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to mean, as you know, visual arts, you know, performing arts,

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<v Speaker 2>all that. I mean, you can be creative. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a friend that was an art major who turned lawyer

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<v Speaker 2>who used all her creative problem solving to uncover the

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<v Speaker 2>egg price fixing industry um the grocery stores and the

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<v Speaker 2>tennessee walking horses the high stepping so she like broke

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff but through creative backdoor ways of thinking

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<v Speaker 2>so we're always creating we're always making and you know

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<v Speaker 2>animals are always communicating telepathically because they need to thrive

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<v Speaker 2>and survive so they've never forgotten they don't they don't

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<v Speaker 2>they don't No one ever told them they couldn't. They've

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<v Speaker 2>not forgotten that they can't. So it's just remembering. But

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<v Speaker 2>those two things bring us back to that. And both

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<v Speaker 2>of them really help us with understanding ourselves in the collective.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're both healing. you know, my spouse and I

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<v Speaker 2>are walking today, and we're like, why is everything about healing?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do we need so much healing? You know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like it just, you know, but that's a separate,

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably a separate podcast, but both of those do it, Marion.

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<v Speaker 2>They both help us bring us back to ourselves, and,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're looking at our animals, really, there's

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<v Speaker 2>so much they do, and we can talk about that,

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<v Speaker 2>but they are, too, just so much presence, so much healing,

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<v Speaker 2>so much bringing everything inside, outside, right, because getting it

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<v Speaker 2>out of our heads and into our heart. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing about how, and that was what

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<v Speaker 1>we called our show today, about how they influence our life,

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<v Speaker 1>how they teach us. So let's start at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to us about animal communication, what it is and

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<v Speaker 1>what it isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not someone behaviorist, an animal behaviorist, like reading

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<v Speaker 2>your animal's body language or Um, it's a telepathic communication.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's across distances as tele meaning communication and, uh, pathy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or the other way around, but it's an,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a nonverbal communication across any, any distance. Um, and

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<v Speaker 2>once you've communicated, there's no longer the distance. So if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm communicating with your animal there, it doesn't matter where

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<v Speaker 2>you live. Once we're communicating, they're right here right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's no, um, Yeah. I might have to do

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<v Speaker 2>that too later, but there's no, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a few in the room, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. And I love doing, I call them rapid

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<v Speaker 2>fire communications, but one of them wants to kind of,

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<v Speaker 2>you've never had an animal communication.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. And that one over there, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>which one, but yeah, it's funny. It's kind of going

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<v Speaker 2>off your, but it's funny how they, some, and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>go back to what it is and what it isn't,

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<v Speaker 2>but Well, that's what it is. But some, like the one,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel it's a dog, but he's a little

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<v Speaker 2>shy and they're like, what is this? Like, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of feel in their energy, the one that's

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<v Speaker 2>lying down there. And I don't know, as I speak

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<v Speaker 2>about that one, because I'm honestly, that one's not giving

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<v Speaker 2>me much about whether it's a cat or a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>There's literally two within 10 inches of a foot. The

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<v Speaker 1>cat's right here and the dog's behind me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Well then they very much share energy and they're

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<v Speaker 2>both seem kind of, so what's the one, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's the one to the right, it's a dog. What's,

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<v Speaker 2>is it, is that, which one's lighter with maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of brown or a lighter?

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<v Speaker 1>The dog is a blonde and corgi.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Okay. That's the one. It's funny though. They play

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<v Speaker 2>off each other so well, but my point is that

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<v Speaker 2>they were both like, we've never had this before. We're

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<v Speaker 2>a little cautious. Who are you? just because they're not

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<v Speaker 2>used to it. But once, you know, I start to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, let them know that I'm here, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always here to, you know, to bring peace and

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<v Speaker 2>harmony and just to really just be an open hollow

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<v Speaker 2>bone vessel to hear what they're wanting to share. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's a communication. It's not a reading, back to your question.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not me reading them. It's a back and forth. And,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's any question goes, you know, it's interesting because,

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<v Speaker 2>do our pet, do our animals, because I don't call

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<v Speaker 2>them pets, but do our, because it's free will, right?

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll send you beings capable of free will, consciousness, likes, dislikes, opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>And we don't own them. We're their guardians, lucky enough

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<v Speaker 2>to be their guardians, but like I said, across distances.

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<v Speaker 2>So once that distance, once we connect, there is no

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<v Speaker 2>longer that distance and it's instantaneous. And, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>can be, your animal can be connecting with 2000 people

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<v Speaker 2>at one time. It's time space continuum. There's no You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no lag in that, right? You can ask one

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<v Speaker 2>question or 20,000 questions to, say, one of my animals

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<v Speaker 2>here in the room or yours, and they can just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, be sending back, sending back. I mean, it's just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're really good at that. They didn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they've never, like I said, they never were told they

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't anymore. So....

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<v Speaker 1>How does it, you know, help with people's relationships with

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<v Speaker 1>their animals?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 1>Um.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so since animals choose, well, okay, let's go back

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<v Speaker 2>even further. So, you know, you you attracted a particular

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<v Speaker 2>animal into your life because both of you have similar

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<v Speaker 2>gifts to offer and emotional wounds to heal. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you signed up together, you agreed before you came in

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<v Speaker 2>here with a contract and because animals and forever, however

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<v Speaker 2>long or short the animals in your life, just like people.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe give us some examples of like really profound things

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<v Speaker 1>that have come through in the readings. So the question was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how does it help with the relationships or

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<v Speaker 1>how does it make a difference? But maybe give us

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<v Speaker 1>some examples.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, let me just get back to the, let me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I had a brain fart. I'd done that

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<v Speaker 2>twice to, you know, maybe it's like what the, you know, the,

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<v Speaker 2>the malfunction with the, the, the software when we came on.

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<v Speaker 2>But so, you know, animals really, help us understand what

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<v Speaker 2>it means to be human, to be ourselves. Since their

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<v Speaker 2>behavior models mirrors and inspires, they're always reflecting back to

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<v Speaker 2>us ourselves. And so in animal consciousness, there's no good

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<v Speaker 2>and bad. There's no cause and effect. They're in spiritual consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there's no good and bad and cause and effect.

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<v Speaker 2>It's everything is, you know, what we're supposed to understand

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<v Speaker 2>and see about ourselves. Yeah. And I will say this too,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people, this whole thing about whether animal communication

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<v Speaker 2>is real or not real. Since animals are the force

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<v Speaker 2>of love and love happens in spiritual consciousness, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way if you know your animal loves you and you

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<v Speaker 2>love them, there's no way you can't not believe in,

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<v Speaker 2>in that they're sentient and conscious, have consciousness because that

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<v Speaker 2>love is created in your consciousness.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Conscious i'm conscious they're conscious there's no way that you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't believe that right if you if you unless you

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<v Speaker 2>on the fence about animal communication you know um well

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<v Speaker 2>the love that you have for your animal exists in

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual consciousness so they have consciousness and they have sentience

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<v Speaker 2>right i just think that it's a kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>no-brainer there that that is that um form and formless

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<v Speaker 2>energy exists, right. Exists in, in the form, in the formless.

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<v Speaker 2>So on the other side, there's still love and consciousness and,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and here they are. So I just, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So what kind of messages do you get from them? Um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>And then what's like just something really cool that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the deal. I'm not reading, I'm communicating and it's whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they want to share. And if I, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like a soul painting, I cannot determine the soul painting

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of time. I'll hold that question. And then this

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<v Speaker 2>energy to complete the soul painting or to, to paint

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<v Speaker 2>the soul painting for us to start with the drawing

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<v Speaker 2>the thing I can't go in knowing I, I, I

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<v Speaker 2>bring presents, right. A hollow bone. I'm just, my goal

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<v Speaker 2>is to listen and receive at the most pure way

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<v Speaker 2>possible without judgment, opinion. And I just, you know, connect

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<v Speaker 2>with them and whatever, you know, the, the client always

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<v Speaker 2>has first of all, the animals know what you're, what

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<v Speaker 2>you want to ask ahead of time. And they know

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<v Speaker 2>your intentions. They may not know exactly what you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>Mary Ellen, but they know your intentions. So it's important

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<v Speaker 2>to follow through with what you say you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>do because they know your intentions and they'll know that

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<v Speaker 2>you're well-intentioned person because you do follow through with what

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<v Speaker 2>you say. So to your question, anything goes. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>what really have I had someone come and say, just

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<v Speaker 2>tell me anything I have. There's no, no issues. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to, I just want to get to know

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<v Speaker 2>my animal better. Some, yeah, but because it's spiritual, emotional,

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<v Speaker 2>and physical, you know, you talk about Edgar Cayce and

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<v Speaker 2>energy is life, right? Mind's the builder and body's the result.

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<v Speaker 2>So people always come and it gets down to the physical, right?

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<v Speaker 2>When I can't ignore it anymore, I have to come

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<v Speaker 2>because my animal's doing this, right? And so we always

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<v Speaker 2>cover that first, but really what's beautiful is the animals

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<v Speaker 2>already answer you in a way that they know what

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying and so it may not be exactly and

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<v Speaker 2>that's where I come in the way you want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear it because I think I know they figured this

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<v Speaker 2>out Mary Ellen they already know how to do this

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<v Speaker 2>they don't go to war they you think about your

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<v Speaker 2>animals your cat and your dog behind you they're two

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<v Speaker 2>different crazy diverse personalities even though they have some things

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<v Speaker 2>that parallel over right that they have a really unique

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<v Speaker 2>sarcastic funny relationship with each other They just do. They

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<v Speaker 2>just do. And then it's so funny. They kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like talk about you to each other and have their

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<v Speaker 2>individual thing with you. But but they're also unique and

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<v Speaker 2>like they and diverse in their personalities and their messages

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<v Speaker 2>and what they want to share. But animals have figured

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<v Speaker 2>it out. They know, you know, they don't kill each other. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they do. have an under communication about food that they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to eat, you know, to keep the chain going.

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<v Speaker 2>But they don't, if you think about it, such diverse

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<v Speaker 2>personalities in a small house or whatever, or in a house,

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<v Speaker 2>they still manage to get along pretty well. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just, it's really, that's kind of where I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>is trying to figure out animal to animal. How are you,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you do that? How do you in the wild,

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<v Speaker 2>in domestic, you know, interactions, how do you get along

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<v Speaker 2>so well, relatively closer, you know, quarters and still, even

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<v Speaker 2>though something may get on their nerves, cause they do,

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<v Speaker 2>you see it and then they shut it off. But anyway, um, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So you asked me about what's the crazy, it's, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>anything goes, I'm always blown away and, you know, um,

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<v Speaker 2>surprised and, and the, and the clients too, like, um,

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and here's the thing, too, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>say about remembering. I'm in presence when I'm doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why we record because I don't always remember,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I will tell you, during the mentoring sessions,

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<v Speaker 2>I have mentored someone, and they just could not. I

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<v Speaker 2>was validating. I'm like, we've been mentoring for how long now?

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<v Speaker 2>You got this. You're communicating. And it was the trust

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<v Speaker 2>that the person needed to trust themselves, right? And no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what you say, I can tell you a million times,

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<v Speaker 2>Mary Ellen, that you are an excellent psychic. Okay. You're,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you are, but it's like, you're,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a great psychic. You're, you know, blah, blah, blah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you could have a hundred people, but until you

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<v Speaker 2>believe it inside, right. Until it clicks for you, it

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<v Speaker 2>does not matter what the world is saying. Right. You're

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<v Speaker 2>still going to have those ebbs and flows. Well, this,

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<v Speaker 2>this client, she was like, she was great. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>ask the animals. And she's like, I am, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to ask them. She said, okay, if I'm connecting with you,

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<v Speaker 2>she had these parakeets. She had like 24 parakeets. If

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<v Speaker 2>I'm connecting with you, I want you to blink your eyes. Blink, blink, blink. Wow. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they did it. Blink, blink, blink. And then

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<v Speaker 2>she kept asking him for more proof and more proof. Finally,

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<v Speaker 2>they said, forget it. Like after six, like she kept,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, getting validated and validated. And it's finally, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>when is enough is enough, you know, at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I thought that was funny because that they did,

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<v Speaker 2>they did the first thing. Then they did the second thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Birds don't blink. You know, they're not really just blinkers,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like. Yeah. But, um, I mean, I've had, um,

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<v Speaker 2>You know, whatever the messages are, they're humorous. They're, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just like with the Animal Truth Oracle, they're wisdom. They're insightful.

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<v Speaker 2>They're mind blowing. They're like quantum. You know, they talk

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<v Speaker 2>about other planets. They can talk about other lifetimes. It's whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can't even.

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<v Speaker 1>Birds are smart. And I think they're a very underrated pet.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my first career jobs, I was an admin

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<v Speaker 1>for the animal department at SeaWorld and got to be

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<v Speaker 1>exposed to a lot of different animals. And the birds

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<v Speaker 1>were a big part of that, the parrots, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was every kind of bird too. And they're all different,

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<v Speaker 1>but I realized they're as smart as dogs, maybe in

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<v Speaker 1>a different way, but they are definitely that smart and

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<v Speaker 1>they're clever and they've got great memories and they live

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<v Speaker 1>way longer than a lot of people think too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. You know what I think is not clever is

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<v Speaker 2>trying to rate their intelligence as far as human terms.

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<v Speaker 2>Or why would not you? But why would we compare

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<v Speaker 2>a bird to a dog's intelligence? Two completely different ways

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<v Speaker 2>that they interact and move and vibe in the world. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Tools are different. Intake and external, all different. So, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? It's like it's another thing where

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<v Speaker 2>we're like in spiritual consciousness, there's no hierarchy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>an animal reminded me the other day who had passed over,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, you know what, it's so beautiful here

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<v Speaker 2>because there's no hierarchy. We created that. Humans and our

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<v Speaker 2>ego created this idea of hierarchy. And if we can live, like,

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<v Speaker 2>with this, you know, idea here in the physical, that

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<v Speaker 2>there isn't hierarchy, which we all, you know, that that's

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<v Speaker 2>not with the system. But we'd be a lot happier.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's how it really is. And that's spiritual consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no hierarchy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really with the difference you were saying between dogs

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<v Speaker 1>and cats. There's just not a comparable scale, but just

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<v Speaker 1>like humans too. And then same with consciousness and on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side. It's it's a different form of communication.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a different way of acting. It's a different way

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<v Speaker 1>of being. It's a different way of communication, all of

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<v Speaker 1>that together. And then all of the, everything I think

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<v Speaker 1>in the world is different. How trees communicate and plants,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and again, we can, we say that animals

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<v Speaker 1>or that plants aren't sentient or aren't smart.

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<v Speaker 2>They're pretty smart.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when I have one too far from the window,

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<v Speaker 1>they all lean, you know. That's a form of intelligence,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask them. Ask them next time. Is it okay if

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<v Speaker 2>I cut you? Is it okay if I trim you?

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<v Speaker 2>I can do experiments out front. I had all these

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<v Speaker 2>when we first moved in, like sawgrass, oatgrass. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm sorry, but it's not really working. You're

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to have to move you or take you out.

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<v Speaker 2>I did the first one without talking to them. It

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<v Speaker 2>took me an hour and 90 minutes. I did the

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<v Speaker 2>others with thanking them and saying, okay, it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to work, but thank you so much for what you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever I said. I mean, boom, boom, boom.

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<v Speaker 2>They were all six of them out within 10 minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not kidding. They released their roots and they came.

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<v Speaker 2>I ask flies to slow down so I can take

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<v Speaker 2>them out. I'll give them choices. Please slow down or

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<v Speaker 2>go to the door. Right. Or if you continue, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>to slow you down and get you out. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? So, but no, but they, there's, everything

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<v Speaker 2>that's living is sentient, period. And as far as intelligence,

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<v Speaker 2>what does that mean? What is intelligence? That's what's in

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right. And that's the language. Once we can

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<v Speaker 1>get outside of thinking in those analytical terms and again,

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<v Speaker 1>applying the feelings and the creative thought to that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I have a very strong, I love animals and I

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<v Speaker 1>do really try to be intuitive with every animal that

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<v Speaker 1>And I've got, you know, a new communication with them too.

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<v Speaker 1>And I, and the, but then insects, um, I raise, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>monarch caterpillars, like I help them, uh, butterfly caterpillars to

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<v Speaker 1>become monarchs. And then there are wasps and lizards that

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<v Speaker 1>will come and eat them. And the wasps are terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just right in front of you. They'll just

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<v Speaker 1>caterpillar and, uh, So I do apologize, but I will

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<v Speaker 1>I would not normally kill a wasp and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's a part of me that respects the

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<v Speaker 2>wasp of just being who they are. Yeah. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to come down and I'm going to, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't want that caterpillar killed, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And that's what I did. I kept one sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, cull plant out there.

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<v Speaker 2>It was big.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a big one. And then pretty much they

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<v Speaker 1>could eat anything that was on it. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>had the other cages, but we're about at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the season now. And a wasp got into the

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<v Speaker 1>cage and I just said, sorry, Charlie. So, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was no other way to get them out too.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. And you give them choices like, look, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>stay here. I need to go. There's other things you

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<v Speaker 2>can eat. And right today and however long I have

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<v Speaker 2>these caterpillars, you can't eat them. Yeah. So you need

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<v Speaker 2>to go. And so you've got about, OK, 30 seconds here.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, you know, but when you give them choices,

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<v Speaker 2>they make the choice and then you can feel good, too,

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<v Speaker 2>about like giving them an option. Yeah. But you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>I love that you're saying that about insects, because, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're so right. You know, reptiles and insects, they're so misunderstood.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you how many snakes I've talked to.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, why do people not like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>they don't get it why people don't like them so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, because people don't understand you. They're like, they're

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<v Speaker 2>so afraid. Like, oh, they're like, speak specifically or in general.

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<v Speaker 2>They're so afraid of me. And one of my decks

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<v Speaker 2>coming up is going to be reptiles and insects. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The next one, you know, I'm doing with Earthfire Institute.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about my deck later. But the other one

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<v Speaker 2>after that is birds. Oh, good. Yeah. Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>each individual type. We're doing south, whatever, east, middle, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to name it, you know, midway down on

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<v Speaker 2>the East Coast. But just how unique. You cannot classify birds.

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<v Speaker 2>Every bluebird is so unique. Yes, they have similar colorings

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<v Speaker 2>in that, but so unique in their personality, in their perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and in the most profound truths. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what started the Oracle deck is they have this

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<v Speaker 2>unique way of seeing the world as physical beings living,

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<v Speaker 2>divine beings living a physical existence. And unique that is

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<v Speaker 2>profound and unique to them. And each one is so different, right?

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<v Speaker 2>So different. Yeah. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've got just a few minutes to break. And

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<v Speaker 1>I do, when we come back, I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about communicating with your animals. You know, can

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<v Speaker 1>anybody do it? You know, more about that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to hear more about your deck too,

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<v Speaker 1>but tell people how they can find out more information

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<v Speaker 1>about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my, I'm on obviously online, you know, technology, but harpspace.org.

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<v Speaker 2>So like headspace, but harp, my last name, harpspace.org. I

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<v Speaker 2>am on Substack and Instagram all through all Harp Space

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<v Speaker 2>and Facebook. You got to pick the social platforms that

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<v Speaker 2>you can do. I got my three that I'm on,

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<v Speaker 2>three or four.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on YouTube too, aren't you?

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<v Speaker 2>I am, but I just, yeah, I am. Yeah. Please

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<v Speaker 2>follow my YouTube. I only have maybe a 50 or

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<v Speaker 2>100 followers. Please follow me on YouTube. We'll work on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Thanks. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then for us, we've got a Natural Wellness Expo

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<v Speaker 1>coming up in St. Pete next weekend. It's naturalwellnessexpo.com. And

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<v Speaker 1>as always, Spirit Fest, our next Spirit Fest is now

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<v Speaker 1>the first week in October. So we're gearing up. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're doing behind the scenes is we're planning

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<v Speaker 1>our schedule for next year. So anything that is planned

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<v Speaker 1>for next year is already on the website. That's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can always check back. It's fun to see

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to be coming up. So Everybody stick around,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to talk more about animal communication and

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<v Speaker 1>communicating with maybe your animals.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, friends. My name is David Trotter. I'm the founder

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<v Speaker 3>and publisher of Awakened Magazine, and we are deeply honored

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<v Speaker 3>we all help awaken our world to love. We do

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<v Speaker 3>that through our digital magazine. We release several interviews and

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<v Speaker 3>it out, I encourage you to watch the interview that

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<v Speaker 3>I did with Mary Ellen Poppock. You can find it

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<v Speaker 1>website soon, and we look forward to seeing you at

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<v Speaker 1>Spirit Fest in 2026. Welcome back to the Sanctuary for Mind, Body,

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<v Speaker 1>and Spirit. We are discussing animal communication with a professional

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<v Speaker 1>animal communicator, also a great artist, Nicole Harp. So welcome back, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were talking about the information that you get

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<v Speaker 1>when you are communicating with an animal. What are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the more common things they want their owners or

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<v Speaker 1>their family to know? Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like there's some general things. It's always about your

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<v Speaker 2>inner brilliance. I mean, like I'll try to go larger

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<v Speaker 2>and then more specific. But so I had mentioned before

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<v Speaker 2>about the behaviors they choose when they're mirroring you, when

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<v Speaker 2>they're modeling you. For example, like one of my dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>she's always catching the sunbeams. And I always see her

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<v Speaker 2>in the most comfortable places in between like outings and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm always catching a sunbeam or just really watching nature.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, man, that is a great idea. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go out and just sit with her and do

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<v Speaker 2>what she's doing. You know, that modeling behavior that we

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<v Speaker 2>should be doing or then mirroring and i had said

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<v Speaker 2>before there's not good and bad like i when i

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<v Speaker 2>communicate with my animals like normally communicate like just call

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<v Speaker 2>it communicating um it's not good and bad there if

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<v Speaker 2>she does something he she or the cat i have

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<v Speaker 2>three dogs and a cat if i'm asking them to

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<v Speaker 2>do something i'm visualizing it And I'm speaking at what

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<v Speaker 2>I want, not what I don't want and what I

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<v Speaker 2>do want, like not don't scratch the couch. I visualize

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<v Speaker 2>what she can scratch the cat or visualize what you want.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when they do that request that you actually

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<v Speaker 2>ask them to do, I say, thank you. Okay. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much for making that choice because it's free will.

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<v Speaker 2>And there is a choice when you go to walk

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<v Speaker 2>your dog and you want to, they want to go

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<v Speaker 2>right because it's, They haven't smelled for whatever reason they want.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the most unattractive street where the cars are.

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<v Speaker 2>And you want to get more peaceful. You give them choices.

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<v Speaker 2>You give them choices. We let Charlie decide his walk

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<v Speaker 2>because it's that's for them, not for us. And he'll choose.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, OK, you can choose that way once a week.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he started making it every five days. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, seven days a week makes. And so he

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<v Speaker 2>gets seven days. In seven days, he can go that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Or sometimes he'll do six. And then other times, he'll

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<v Speaker 2>go to the left, which is for us more enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 2>But we negotiated that with him. He still gets what

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<v Speaker 2>he wants. If you give them choices, options, this or that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when they do it, you thank them. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>he'll want to, whatever, I need him to do something

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<v Speaker 2>because we're on a time schedule or something. And I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just say, you know, come on, Charlie, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, but it's authentic. And then he does it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just so thankful and grateful. And I get something.

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<v Speaker 2>He's every time after that, he does something that I

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<v Speaker 2>want because it's mutual respect that I need, or I

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<v Speaker 2>give to him too when I don't need it. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this, that give and take. It can't be our

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<v Speaker 2>way all the time. Right. They have their own sovereignty.

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<v Speaker 2>They need their time to be alone. They need their

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<v Speaker 2>time to play. you know, in the order of which

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<v Speaker 2>they need things, uh, exercise and cognitive quality resources, and then, um, affection.

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<v Speaker 2>And we, as humans tend to do it the other way,

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<v Speaker 2>don't we? If something falls by the wayside, it's usually

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<v Speaker 2>their walk and it can't be, you know, because we

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<v Speaker 2>need to have a, um, cause if not, our lives

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<v Speaker 2>are messed up because they're, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, my dog will give me a prompt. He just

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<v Speaker 1>sits next to my chair and goes, huh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When I have and then, you know, it'll get stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't really bark. But if you're not really paying attention,

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<v Speaker 1>you might miss it, too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know they're trying to communicate.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a routine with your animals because they

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<v Speaker 2>thrive on routines?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. More or less. In fact, we go to

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<v Speaker 1>play the ball right after breakfast. But I'm noticing that

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<v Speaker 1>now the are starting earlier and earlier in my breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>because he knows it's coming. He's very smart. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have to remind him that I'll let him know when

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast is over and then we'll negotiate. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so do you shorten the time or do you

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<v Speaker 2>give him his full 10 minutes?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'll give him a full time. And yesterday it

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<v Speaker 1>rained all day and I really was trying to, so

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<v Speaker 1>finally I just let him out so he could see

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<v Speaker 1>what I meant. He did not want to be out

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<v Speaker 1>in it and that was very disappointing. Yeah. But yeah, no, we, if,

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<v Speaker 1>if I do need to miss, one of our set activities,

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<v Speaker 1>I do try to make it up somehow or do something.

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<v Speaker 1>They need the stimulation, whether it's mental or physical.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to. They have to. They have to be moving.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what they do. We came in roaming.

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<v Speaker 2>They roam. What's his name? Do you want me to

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<v Speaker 2>communicate with him?

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<v Speaker 1>Mr. Bingley, yes. Mr.

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<v Speaker 2>Bingley? That's funny. That's funny. He just showed me if

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<v Speaker 2>he had to. Do you like to read a lot? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He shows me his glasses and he reads with you, but,

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<v Speaker 2>and you got that name. He likes, he likes his name.

613
00:33:55.700 --> 00:33:58.309
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting. I don't know if you ever told him

614
00:33:58.329 --> 00:34:00.910
<v Speaker 2>where it came from. He would like to know. It's

615
00:34:00.950 --> 00:34:03.789
<v Speaker 2>a movie. Yeah. He would like to know. Yeah. Because

616
00:34:03.829 --> 00:34:05.410
<v Speaker 2>he didn't think it was from books.

617
00:34:06.589 --> 00:34:09.070
<v Speaker 1>Well, it is a book. It's a Pride and Prejudice.

618
00:34:09.309 --> 00:34:10.860
<v Speaker 1>So it was a book and it is a movie.

619
00:34:10.889 --> 00:34:14.219
<v Speaker 2>Yes. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah, he likes when you communicate

620
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.780
<v Speaker 2>with him. He's really smart. And I don't, I know

621
00:34:16.900 --> 00:34:19.659
<v Speaker 2>you don't know how smart he is. Because he just

622
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.699
<v Speaker 2>told me that, but I don't even, he's super smart.

623
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.429
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm not going to, I'm just so anti-breed, but

624
00:34:26.469 --> 00:34:27.909
<v Speaker 2>I know he's a breed and you got him from

625
00:34:27.969 --> 00:34:28.429
<v Speaker 2>a breeder.

626
00:34:30.030 --> 00:34:30.230
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

627
00:34:30.269 --> 00:34:33.130
<v Speaker 2>He's okay with that. I mean, and it's just funny. They,

628
00:34:33.630 --> 00:34:36.110
<v Speaker 2>they have a kind of air about them breeds. They

629
00:34:36.130 --> 00:34:39.289
<v Speaker 2>just do, but he's smart and he's not jerky or

630
00:34:39.309 --> 00:34:41.530
<v Speaker 2>any cocky, but he's got an air, you know, because

631
00:34:41.570 --> 00:34:46.139
<v Speaker 2>of the breeding, you know, it's just like anything, but he,

632
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:50.460
<v Speaker 2>he does need more. Now he's about, you know, I'm

633
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.909
<v Speaker 2>caught between four or six and I'm caught because how

634
00:34:53.929 --> 00:34:55.050
<v Speaker 2>old is he? Six.

635
00:34:55.730 --> 00:34:55.969
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

636
00:34:56.210 --> 00:34:58.449
<v Speaker 2>I'm caught between four or six because it's what he

637
00:34:58.489 --> 00:35:01.530
<v Speaker 2>feels like versus how old he is. Cause sometimes they'll

638
00:35:01.550 --> 00:35:02.989
<v Speaker 2>just show me, I'll just get the energy of what

639
00:35:03.030 --> 00:35:06.190
<v Speaker 2>they feel like. So he needs a lot more than

640
00:35:06.230 --> 00:35:08.869
<v Speaker 2>you're giving him. And it doesn't mean all the time,

641
00:35:09.489 --> 00:35:13.679
<v Speaker 2>but all those times that he's going earlier or doing

642
00:35:13.699 --> 00:35:16.210
<v Speaker 2>what he needs a little bit extra that week. Yeah.

643
00:35:16.230 --> 00:35:19.090
<v Speaker 2>So it's his, his stuff's like this. He's real in

644
00:35:19.110 --> 00:35:23.570
<v Speaker 2>tune with his feelings. Very. Okay. And you, yeah. And you, um,

645
00:35:24.139 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 2>and it, and it, it is dependent on your energy

646
00:35:27.059 --> 00:35:29.619
<v Speaker 2>as well. Like I just know right now you're not

647
00:35:30.179 --> 00:35:32.519
<v Speaker 2>doing your kickboxing or your, whatever it was much in

648
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:35.769
<v Speaker 2>whatever you do as much as you should. Yeah. Yeah.

649
00:35:36.139 --> 00:35:38.239
<v Speaker 2>You're caught up in some other stuff. You're this and that.

650
00:35:38.260 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>It's a really busy time, yes.

651
00:35:39.820 --> 00:35:42.019
<v Speaker 2>Usually you're good about it or you're like, I know

652
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:44.579
<v Speaker 2>I need to do this, but that is key for you.

653
00:35:45.099 --> 00:35:46.900
<v Speaker 2>And so, you know, even if you go out and

654
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:48.880
<v Speaker 2>do some exercise, you know, whatever you do while you're

655
00:35:48.900 --> 00:35:51.539
<v Speaker 2>playing ball with him, it's going to help you. And

656
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.730
<v Speaker 2>he's always reminding you because you need to do it too. Yes.

657
00:35:55.130 --> 00:35:56.650
<v Speaker 2>But I just want to, he wants me to be

658
00:35:56.730 --> 00:35:59.929
<v Speaker 2>clear because I'm not, because I mushed it all you

659
00:36:00.010 --> 00:36:03.449
<v Speaker 2>in with him. He wants me to be clear. Okay. Okay.

660
00:36:04.050 --> 00:36:06.309
<v Speaker 2>Let me sharpen my pencil. Hold on. Put that behind

661
00:36:06.329 --> 00:36:09.610
<v Speaker 2>my ear. He needs a little extra right now. And

662
00:36:09.650 --> 00:36:11.409
<v Speaker 2>he wants you to tune in to when he does

663
00:36:11.469 --> 00:36:12.690
<v Speaker 2>need it because he will let you know.

664
00:36:12.710 --> 00:36:14.030
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he does.

665
00:36:14.070 --> 00:36:16.610
<v Speaker 2>It's not him being whatever. He just needs it. So

666
00:36:16.690 --> 00:36:18.960
<v Speaker 2>if you want to be more calm and, you know,

667
00:36:19.019 --> 00:36:21.099
<v Speaker 2>not feel like, oh, did I, you know, because I

668
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 2>feel like sometimes at the end of the day, you're like,

669
00:36:23.500 --> 00:36:26.079
<v Speaker 2>did I do enough for them? Which I love that

670
00:36:26.099 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 2>you feel that way. Yeah. I don't know. But you

671
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:31.039
<v Speaker 2>want to be at the end of the day not

672
00:36:31.099 --> 00:36:34.099
<v Speaker 2>asking yourself that. Do you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

673
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.380
<v Speaker 2>So when he needs that little bit extra, just give

674
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.059
<v Speaker 2>it to him. And I don't, I mean, he's just,

675
00:36:38.099 --> 00:36:40.179
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why so much right now, but it's

676
00:36:40.219 --> 00:36:43.719
<v Speaker 2>just the energy of maybe your energy and his energy.

677
00:36:43.780 --> 00:36:45.440
<v Speaker 2>It's just who he is. He just needs a little

678
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.000
<v Speaker 2>bit right now. Yeah.

679
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:50.679
<v Speaker 1>Of anything, even, even laying in my lap at night

680
00:36:50.860 --> 00:36:55.889
<v Speaker 1>is mental stimulation for him. Just having that time. And I,

681
00:36:56.030 --> 00:36:58.289
<v Speaker 1>it makes a big difference with him, but I found

682
00:36:58.329 --> 00:37:00.650
<v Speaker 1>a really good dog sitter where he goes to their

683
00:37:00.690 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 1>house and And there's other dogs there, but they, they

684
00:37:03.699 --> 00:37:06.380
<v Speaker 1>love him. So he kind of gets maybe some special treatment,

685
00:37:06.900 --> 00:37:08.559
<v Speaker 1>but they play the ball for him all the time.

686
00:37:08.579 --> 00:37:11.809
<v Speaker 1>That's all they do is, you know, and he loves it.

687
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:13.460
<v Speaker 1>But I know when I pick him up that he's

688
00:37:13.539 --> 00:37:14.519
<v Speaker 1>really ready to come home.

689
00:37:15.090 --> 00:37:18.610
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He's really, he's really your dog. I mean, it's your, it's,

690
00:37:18.909 --> 00:37:21.550
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's your life together. You signed on together

691
00:37:21.630 --> 00:37:26.809
<v Speaker 2>and it's unfolding what it will be together. But pretty

692
00:37:26.849 --> 00:37:28.969
<v Speaker 2>soon I feel, and I hope you will make some

693
00:37:29.349 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 2>more time for him. Cause, You have so much to

694
00:37:31.329 --> 00:37:33.110
<v Speaker 2>uncover together. Now, do you walk him?

695
00:37:34.090 --> 00:37:36.449
<v Speaker 1>I do. I do. And we throw the ball in

696
00:37:36.489 --> 00:37:40.909
<v Speaker 1>the yard, but I've noticed his, his nails are not

697
00:37:41.030 --> 00:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>getting ground because we're doing that exercise in lieu of

698
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.179
<v Speaker 1>the daily or multiple times a day, walking on the cement.

699
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:49.599
<v Speaker 1>So that I know I need to walk him more

700
00:37:49.659 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 1>on the cement, but we do. He likes that, the

701
00:37:52.139 --> 00:37:56.900
<v Speaker 1>sniff around. And that seems to be important to dogs, the, The.

702
00:37:56.610 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Walk is the most important thing. The play is fine.

703
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:03.980
<v Speaker 2>The walk is actually first and foremost, and the play

704
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:07.760
<v Speaker 2>is second for him. And that's what he needs because

705
00:38:07.780 --> 00:38:13.139
<v Speaker 2>I'm just feeling it now. It calms him down. He releases.

706
00:38:13.219 --> 00:38:16.400
<v Speaker 2>He can release through all his appendages. You can get

707
00:38:16.420 --> 00:38:18.460
<v Speaker 2>his nails cut from the groomer or wherever. That's not

708
00:38:18.500 --> 00:38:21.699
<v Speaker 2>the issue. Sure, it wears them down, but it's all

709
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.570
<v Speaker 2>the other stuff. It's confidence building. And it's a confidence

710
00:38:24.590 --> 00:38:27.030
<v Speaker 2>building that he needs. What's going on in my neighborhood?

711
00:38:27.110 --> 00:38:30.219
<v Speaker 2>What's happening at this mailbox, at this? I can smell

712
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.719
<v Speaker 2>X amount of miles away. I need to know what's

713
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.639
<v Speaker 2>going on. And it makes him uncomfortable when he doesn't

714
00:38:35.659 --> 00:38:37.679
<v Speaker 2>know what's going on. I know you know that. You

715
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.179
<v Speaker 2>need to know what's happening next, right? And he needs

716
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:44.539
<v Speaker 2>to know what's out there. And, you know, he comes

717
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:47.460
<v Speaker 2>back and reports it to your cat. What's your cat's name?

718
00:38:48.380 --> 00:38:50.739
<v Speaker 1>I have three, Leota, Oliver, and Luna.

719
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.070
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my goodness. Okay, well, it's going to take a

720
00:38:54.090 --> 00:38:56.530
<v Speaker 2>minute to decipher the three of them, and I almost

721
00:38:56.570 --> 00:39:00.630
<v Speaker 2>want to. Oliver's coming closer, but then Luna comes up there.

722
00:39:00.670 --> 00:39:07.179
<v Speaker 2>But which one is black and almost bangle-y? This is

723
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.619
<v Speaker 2>what they show me. They show me Layla in the

724
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:10.579
<v Speaker 2>deck here.

725
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I have two that are gray and white tabbies that

726
00:39:14.260 --> 00:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>are almost identical, even though one's nine years old and

727
00:39:16.820 --> 00:39:19.699
<v Speaker 1>one's just one year old. But then the sister is

728
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>more like a gray calico type.

729
00:39:22.030 --> 00:39:26.579
<v Speaker 2>Calico. Calico. Yeah. Okay. Calico. The Calico one. That's the

730
00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:31.519
<v Speaker 2>one that's okay. That's the one he shares with. about

731
00:39:31.739 --> 00:39:36.070
<v Speaker 2>the daily comings and goings and activities. That's funny. They're

732
00:39:36.110 --> 00:39:39.670
<v Speaker 2>indoor cats. Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because they

733
00:39:39.710 --> 00:39:41.909
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Well, we can, we can sit here and

734
00:39:41.929 --> 00:39:43.869
<v Speaker 2>go on about your, about, but do you have a

735
00:39:43.889 --> 00:39:46.070
<v Speaker 2>catio or something like that where they can go out?

736
00:39:46.530 --> 00:39:49.030
<v Speaker 1>The older cat can stay outside on the porch. We

737
00:39:49.050 --> 00:39:52.489
<v Speaker 1>call that her office because she just owns it there.

738
00:39:52.510 --> 00:39:57.019
<v Speaker 1>The kittens, their brother and sister, and they just turned

739
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:59.599
<v Speaker 1>a year old. But when they were about four or

740
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:02.260
<v Speaker 1>five months old, a bird came down into the yard

741
00:40:03.179 --> 00:40:05.260
<v Speaker 1>that scared one of them and it scared me. And

742
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:08.500
<v Speaker 1>so they probably would be okay. But yes, we do

743
00:40:08.579 --> 00:40:09.880
<v Speaker 1>go out so that they can run.

744
00:40:09.900 --> 00:40:11.079
<v Speaker 2>With you.

745
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:17.170
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. And the Luna, when she was spayed,

746
00:40:17.269 --> 00:40:20.820
<v Speaker 1>got very heavy really quickly. So that's another way. The

747
00:40:20.860 --> 00:40:22.539
<v Speaker 1>house is big enough for them to play, but we

748
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.980
<v Speaker 1>like having the opportunity for her to, you know, just

749
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:27.320
<v Speaker 1>get a little bit more exercise.

750
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to tell you this, and this is

751
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:35.639
<v Speaker 2>important for the Luna. What's important for them, for you

752
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:39.400
<v Speaker 2>to spend as much time as you can outside with

753
00:40:39.460 --> 00:40:42.469
<v Speaker 2>them together. And I'm trying to get what she showed

754
00:40:42.789 --> 00:40:47.570
<v Speaker 2>or what they're worried about. So there's some anxiety between

755
00:40:47.670 --> 00:40:50.110
<v Speaker 2>they have, they have a little bit of anxiety and

756
00:40:50.309 --> 00:40:53.739
<v Speaker 2>that being outside again. And then they keep showing me

757
00:40:53.780 --> 00:40:57.300
<v Speaker 2>how good it is for you. You can get a little,

758
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 2>like all of us can get a little anxiety. Just,

759
00:41:00.940 --> 00:41:06.829
<v Speaker 2>just it like Mr. B is it Bigsley? Just how

760
00:41:06.889 --> 00:41:11.090
<v Speaker 2>it disperses. It disperses the anxiety. And she just showed

761
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:13.210
<v Speaker 2>the cat show. It's a cat. Okay. I'm sorry. You

762
00:41:13.230 --> 00:41:16.690
<v Speaker 2>have two females and a male. Yeah. Okay. Well, the

763
00:41:16.750 --> 00:41:20.630
<v Speaker 2>two are just showing they come from the same litter. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

764
00:41:20.710 --> 00:41:22.880
<v Speaker 2>her more so than him, because he's still trying to

765
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:23.940
<v Speaker 2>find his way and they're young.

766
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:24.099
<v Speaker 1>Right.

767
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:29.099
<v Speaker 2>And they're just like, so there's less adapting issues later.

768
00:41:29.659 --> 00:41:33.199
<v Speaker 2>Get them out now with you, interacting with you, walking

769
00:41:33.300 --> 00:41:37.300
<v Speaker 2>with you, the whole family out together as one. or

770
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.630
<v Speaker 2>just the cats and you, whatever, out together. It can

771
00:41:40.670 --> 00:41:42.849
<v Speaker 2>be the whole family, because you have a nice family.

772
00:41:43.329 --> 00:41:44.210
<v Speaker 1>You walk cats?

773
00:41:44.829 --> 00:41:45.969
<v Speaker 2>Out with you in the backyard.

774
00:41:46.210 --> 00:41:47.630
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yes, okay.

775
00:41:47.949 --> 00:41:50.409
<v Speaker 2>But yes, you can do the one male. You can

776
00:41:50.449 --> 00:41:52.480
<v Speaker 2>train him to wear a leash, sure. But I'm talking

777
00:41:52.500 --> 00:41:54.219
<v Speaker 2>about in the backyard. Okay.

778
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yes, we do like that a lot.

779
00:41:56.139 --> 00:41:58.440
<v Speaker 2>And they're clapping. They're clapping, yes. This is what we

780
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:05.250
<v Speaker 2>want to do. Yeah. Because there's just so much... they

781
00:42:05.269 --> 00:42:07.500
<v Speaker 2>know it's happening out there, but they can't experience it.

782
00:42:07.530 --> 00:42:10.309
<v Speaker 2>They really want to experience it. And there's so much

783
00:42:10.349 --> 00:42:14.630
<v Speaker 2>going on. Like on the microcosm level, they're like, you

784
00:42:14.650 --> 00:42:18.010
<v Speaker 2>don't even know, mom. Like there's so many like, you know,

785
00:42:18.389 --> 00:42:21.090
<v Speaker 2>stuff that you can't see that they know is happening.

786
00:42:21.710 --> 00:42:24.699
<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to, okay, I'm going to explain

787
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:27.360
<v Speaker 2>it like this and then I'll stop. It's more like

788
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:29.820
<v Speaker 2>if you stay, you know how you stay in too

789
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.739
<v Speaker 2>much sometimes? Like I stay in too much sometimes. And

790
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:34.940
<v Speaker 2>then when I go out sometimes in the world, I'm like, oh,

791
00:42:34.980 --> 00:42:37.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I can be almost a little insecure.

792
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:38.900
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? When you stay in too much,

793
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.679
<v Speaker 2>you kind of close yourself in too much. And I

794
00:42:41.739 --> 00:42:43.079
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, yeah, I need to go out more.

795
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:44.659
<v Speaker 2>But that's what it's going to be for them. We

796
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:47.239
<v Speaker 2>want to get them out so they don't start to

797
00:42:47.820 --> 00:42:50.869
<v Speaker 2>get any of that kind of insecurity. We want them

798
00:42:51.090 --> 00:42:56.429
<v Speaker 2>out in nature where they can thrive, be big cats.

799
00:42:56.449 --> 00:42:58.769
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? interact with you. So you're

800
00:42:58.789 --> 00:43:00.829
<v Speaker 2>watching them. There's no birds being attacked. They're not doing,

801
00:43:01.269 --> 00:43:04.889
<v Speaker 2>they're all safe, right? They're safe. Yeah. And they really

802
00:43:04.929 --> 00:43:07.030
<v Speaker 2>want to experience peeing and pooping in the yard. I'm

803
00:43:07.050 --> 00:43:08.909
<v Speaker 2>just telling you, they want to do it. That's really funny.

804
00:43:08.949 --> 00:43:11.260
<v Speaker 1>The adult cat, that's all she wants to do. I've

805
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:12.639
<v Speaker 1>never seen a cat want that before.

806
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:14.079
<v Speaker 2>They got to do it. They want to do it.

807
00:43:14.139 --> 00:43:15.519
<v Speaker 2>The other two want to do it badly too.

808
00:43:15.940 --> 00:43:16.639
<v Speaker 1>That's so funny.

809
00:43:16.860 --> 00:43:18.940
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. They just told me this was priceless. They said

810
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.320
<v Speaker 2>this was priceless and I'm glad, I'm glad that something

811
00:43:21.380 --> 00:43:24.400
<v Speaker 2>so simple could be priceless to them. Do you know

812
00:43:24.420 --> 00:43:27.170
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Uh-huh. I didn't make that up. Why

813
00:43:27.190 --> 00:43:28.969
<v Speaker 2>would I say this was probably, you know, I have

814
00:43:29.010 --> 00:43:31.219
<v Speaker 2>no feelings about any of this. It's your life with them,

815
00:43:31.260 --> 00:43:36.340
<v Speaker 2>but they say that there's a, there's a, are you married? No. Oh,

816
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:39.500
<v Speaker 2>is there a male in the, I'm sorry. No. Yeah. Okay. Oh,

817
00:43:39.539 --> 00:43:42.619
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting. Cause they show that was there give a shot.

818
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:43.940
<v Speaker 2>Is there another person?

819
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:44.559
<v Speaker 1>No, I have a daughter.

820
00:43:45.139 --> 00:43:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Come here. Okay. I thought they showed there's someone else

821
00:43:49.260 --> 00:43:53.789
<v Speaker 2>in the picture. Maybe later. Okay. Anyway, maybe if you're

822
00:43:53.809 --> 00:43:54.489
<v Speaker 2>interested later.

823
00:43:55.900 --> 00:43:59.150
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he knows something I don't. Yeah, yeah.

824
00:43:59.190 --> 00:44:02.610
<v Speaker 2>I think later, if you're interested, there's options. Oh, yeah.

825
00:44:03.300 --> 00:44:05.199
<v Speaker 2>Now the psychic's coming in. There's plenty of people who

826
00:44:05.219 --> 00:44:11.239
<v Speaker 2>are interested in you. But anyway, you do your thing, girl. Okay. Yeah,

827
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:14.269
<v Speaker 2>but so that's the kind of, that wouldn't be necessarily

828
00:44:14.289 --> 00:44:16.269
<v Speaker 2>what a session looked like, but we just kind of

829
00:44:16.289 --> 00:44:19.280
<v Speaker 2>did it impromptu. But I love that it's what they

830
00:44:19.300 --> 00:44:22.179
<v Speaker 2>wanted to share, that I'm not drilling them. It's they

831
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:25.820
<v Speaker 2>shared what was important to your life right now, you know,

832
00:44:26.570 --> 00:44:28.780
<v Speaker 2>which is great. you know, they're always trying to make

833
00:44:28.820 --> 00:44:31.000
<v Speaker 2>sure we're as present as we can. So when you're

834
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:34.619
<v Speaker 2>with our animals, be there with them now. Like no phones,

835
00:44:34.699 --> 00:44:37.630
<v Speaker 2>no podcast, no, I see the tail. There he gets

836
00:44:37.690 --> 00:44:38.010
<v Speaker 2>the tail.

837
00:44:38.030 --> 00:44:39.909
<v Speaker 1>What's funny was I tried to get the dog up

838
00:44:39.969 --> 00:44:41.309
<v Speaker 1>on the chair and then the cat came.

839
00:44:41.730 --> 00:44:43.070
<v Speaker 2>See, this tail goes like this.

840
00:44:43.210 --> 00:44:43.369
<v Speaker 1>Look.

841
00:44:46.329 --> 00:44:49.429
<v Speaker 2>Oh, they're classic. Classic. Yeah.

842
00:44:49.590 --> 00:44:50.389
<v Speaker 1>Typical cats.

843
00:44:50.530 --> 00:44:52.170
<v Speaker 2>But that's just classic.

844
00:44:52.670 --> 00:44:55.210
<v Speaker 1>So this is really, really good information. And I can

845
00:44:55.289 --> 00:44:59.210
<v Speaker 1>see how how beneficial that is to have that, you know,

846
00:45:00.510 --> 00:45:01.349
<v Speaker 1>everyday workings.

847
00:45:01.409 --> 00:45:04.809
<v Speaker 2>Right. Just how do we make our energy vibe and

848
00:45:04.829 --> 00:45:08.070
<v Speaker 2>the days, the time that we have together more fulfilling. Right.

849
00:45:08.610 --> 00:45:10.199
<v Speaker 2>You only have X amount of hours in a day.

850
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Right. And we want the animals to be happy.

851
00:45:14.010 --> 00:45:15.849
<v Speaker 2>And all we have is this moment. Well, but they

852
00:45:15.889 --> 00:45:18.510
<v Speaker 2>want that for you too, right? And really what they want,

853
00:45:19.070 --> 00:45:22.360
<v Speaker 2>your original question, Mary Ellen, is they want us to be,

854
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:29.079
<v Speaker 2>to take a breath. They want us to be, you know, happy.

855
00:45:29.659 --> 00:45:32.840
<v Speaker 2>They want to know what makes us content. They want

856
00:45:32.860 --> 00:45:35.460
<v Speaker 2>to know what is your heart's desire. And they want

857
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.199
<v Speaker 2>you to do what your heart's desire. That's really what they,

858
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:42.019
<v Speaker 2>that's what they want. And they want us to do

859
00:45:42.059 --> 00:45:44.179
<v Speaker 2>it all while we're doing it in nature. They want

860
00:45:44.219 --> 00:45:46.380
<v Speaker 2>us to be outside. They want us to interact with

861
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:47.500
<v Speaker 2>the trees, the wind.

862
00:45:50.340 --> 00:45:52.429
<v Speaker 1>It goes back to the plants and then being able

863
00:45:52.469 --> 00:45:53.829
<v Speaker 1>to communicate with them too.

864
00:45:54.389 --> 00:45:54.510
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

865
00:45:54.530 --> 00:45:55.590
<v Speaker 1>How important that is.

866
00:45:56.110 --> 00:45:56.690
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

867
00:45:57.010 --> 00:46:00.110
<v Speaker 1>That's really interesting. But I was interested what you talked

868
00:46:00.170 --> 00:46:04.900
<v Speaker 1>about in the beginning about the art, you know, and

869
00:46:04.940 --> 00:46:08.539
<v Speaker 1>about the creativity of that and using it as almost

870
00:46:08.579 --> 00:46:14.039
<v Speaker 1>an intuitive tool to, Because when I communicate with the animals,

871
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:16.090
<v Speaker 1>I try to do pictures in my head and I

872
00:46:16.110 --> 00:46:19.309
<v Speaker 1>try to speak simply. Like when I leave, I say,

873
00:46:19.369 --> 00:46:22.690
<v Speaker 1>I'll be back in two sleeps or something along those lines.

874
00:46:23.309 --> 00:46:26.230
<v Speaker 1>Is that what you would do or how do you

875
00:46:26.289 --> 00:46:27.590
<v Speaker 1>do it or what do you recommend?

876
00:46:27.949 --> 00:46:29.940
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's great, first of all. And you

877
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:31.400
<v Speaker 2>can do it any way that works for you. If

878
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:34.099
<v Speaker 2>two sleeps works for you, you can tell them two days.

879
00:46:34.260 --> 00:46:39.440
<v Speaker 2>They're smart, right? And I love that you're not too wordy.

880
00:46:39.829 --> 00:46:42.820
<v Speaker 2>But I, the only thing I would add to that is, um,

881
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:45.599
<v Speaker 2>before you go, I would kind of spend some time

882
00:46:46.219 --> 00:46:48.280
<v Speaker 2>and maybe they love when you write stuff down, it

883
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:51.320
<v Speaker 2>seems important, but, uh, I would write down all your

884
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:54.039
<v Speaker 2>animals names and what's their purpose in your life. What's

885
00:46:54.059 --> 00:46:56.760
<v Speaker 2>their purpose in the household. And it can't be just

886
00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:59.170
<v Speaker 2>to give love or this or that because every, every,

887
00:46:59.309 --> 00:47:02.610
<v Speaker 2>every being needs a purpose. Right. But really like it

888
00:47:02.690 --> 00:47:05.949
<v Speaker 2>makes us really look at ourselves. Everything they do makes

889
00:47:06.010 --> 00:47:11.110
<v Speaker 2>us look at ourselves. Right. Um, whether it's simple or complex,

890
00:47:11.170 --> 00:47:13.210
<v Speaker 2>but what is it that each one of them does?

891
00:47:13.889 --> 00:47:16.530
<v Speaker 2>Like what's their purpose? And then when you leave, look,

892
00:47:16.590 --> 00:47:17.929
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be gone for a couple of days.

893
00:47:18.510 --> 00:47:20.570
<v Speaker 2>I need you to do, this is, you know, this

894
00:47:20.650 --> 00:47:22.590
<v Speaker 2>is one of your purposes. I need you to do that.

895
00:47:22.610 --> 00:47:25.130
<v Speaker 2>I need you to do this. This is your, you know,

896
00:47:25.150 --> 00:47:26.929
<v Speaker 2>and you to do that and do them well, get

897
00:47:26.949 --> 00:47:29.989
<v Speaker 2>along well together. And then I'm going to communicate with

898
00:47:30.050 --> 00:47:34.679
<v Speaker 2>you each night. And you do that on the third night. It's,

899
00:47:34.820 --> 00:47:37.380
<v Speaker 2>you know, third night, how you doing, checking in, feel

900
00:47:37.420 --> 00:47:40.179
<v Speaker 2>what they're sending you. I'll be back in two nights.

901
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:42.260
<v Speaker 2>And then you check in the second night. I'll be

902
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.809
<v Speaker 2>back in one day or one night, whatever. And you

903
00:47:44.989 --> 00:47:46.909
<v Speaker 2>do that until you come home and I'm coming home.

904
00:47:46.929 --> 00:47:49.690
<v Speaker 2>I'm coming home today. Now, they already know when you're

905
00:47:49.730 --> 00:47:52.210
<v Speaker 2>coming home, but that's not the point. The mutual respect

906
00:47:52.269 --> 00:47:56.199
<v Speaker 2>of letting them know what's going on is huge.

907
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>This particular cat did something that is very unusual. And

908
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:05.199
<v Speaker 1>I read that apparently it's not that uncommon for Because

909
00:48:05.260 --> 00:48:07.280
<v Speaker 1>normally when we go on our shows, I leave Friday

910
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>morning and I'm home Sunday night, but not always. Sometimes I,

911
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:13.699
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm gone five days or something like that.

912
00:48:14.219 --> 00:48:17.260
<v Speaker 1>But inevitably on Sunday night, and again, I could be

913
00:48:17.300 --> 00:48:19.679
<v Speaker 1>home in a two and a half hour variance, but

914
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.510
<v Speaker 1>she is sitting by the front door, which is weird

915
00:48:22.570 --> 00:48:25.829
<v Speaker 1>because the only time that I pull up out front

916
00:48:25.929 --> 00:48:28.610
<v Speaker 1>is after the show. Normally I come in through the garage.

917
00:48:29.010 --> 00:48:31.289
<v Speaker 1>She's always at the right door. And I thought that

918
00:48:31.309 --> 00:48:34.170
<v Speaker 1>that was really weird sometimes. Um, you know, cause cats

919
00:48:34.210 --> 00:48:36.690
<v Speaker 1>are smart, but how would she, I mean, has she

920
00:48:36.710 --> 00:48:37.949
<v Speaker 1>been sitting by the door all day?

921
00:48:37.969 --> 00:48:43.079
<v Speaker 2>I wonder, or, you know, they're telepathically connected to you. Wow.

922
00:48:43.420 --> 00:48:45.500
<v Speaker 2>And you're, and the thing is, uh, Mary Ellen, you're

923
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:48.260
<v Speaker 2>connected to them, but they know they're connected to you

924
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:52.159
<v Speaker 2>where heads and other, like they don't get in their

925
00:48:52.179 --> 00:48:56.699
<v Speaker 2>mind loops and they know when you're coming. before you

926
00:48:56.780 --> 00:48:58.699
<v Speaker 2>come and then they go to that door if they

927
00:48:58.739 --> 00:49:01.480
<v Speaker 2>choose sometimes they can still know you're coming when you're

928
00:49:01.500 --> 00:49:04.019
<v Speaker 2>coming and the way you're coming whether you take a

929
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:06.039
<v Speaker 2>bus you know that book that they first did with

930
00:49:06.059 --> 00:49:09.409
<v Speaker 2>the guy who wrote the book about and guardians coming

931
00:49:09.449 --> 00:49:11.409
<v Speaker 2>home one you know they come home walking on a

932
00:49:11.429 --> 00:49:14.909
<v Speaker 2>bus skateboard car it didn't matter how they got there

933
00:49:14.969 --> 00:49:17.929
<v Speaker 2>the animals knew they were coming because we're telepathically connected

934
00:49:18.670 --> 00:49:21.400
<v Speaker 2>we always have been we haven't stopped. We just forgot

935
00:49:21.820 --> 00:49:25.219
<v Speaker 2>how to or we don't slow down enough to feel it.

936
00:49:25.860 --> 00:49:26.949
<v Speaker 2>It's all about slowing down.

937
00:49:27.329 --> 00:49:31.769
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely see that. Yeah, if you really want

938
00:49:31.789 --> 00:49:33.670
<v Speaker 1>to be in tune with your animals, that's what it takes.

939
00:49:33.710 --> 00:49:36.150
<v Speaker 1>Same being in tune with everything, with the air, the wind,

940
00:49:36.190 --> 00:49:36.989
<v Speaker 1>like you said, the land.

941
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:40.539
<v Speaker 2>That's what indigenous people did. They had nothing. They didn't

942
00:49:40.579 --> 00:49:43.219
<v Speaker 2>have AI and this and that, and they just watched

943
00:49:43.260 --> 00:49:45.699
<v Speaker 2>the sun and, you know, it's all energy, right? It

944
00:49:45.739 --> 00:49:50.789
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. You just feel the energy. Right. Right. That's beautiful. Yeah.

945
00:49:50.849 --> 00:49:53.289
<v Speaker 2>Because we're communicating with our animals all the time. We

946
00:49:53.329 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 2>just don't talk about it or, yeah. Yeah.

947
00:49:57.070 --> 00:49:59.210
<v Speaker 1>One of the funniest things she did, and I'm sorry

948
00:49:59.269 --> 00:50:01.309
<v Speaker 1>if people are bored by hearing cute pet stories, at

949
00:50:01.329 --> 00:50:02.909
<v Speaker 1>least I'm not going to show everybody their pictures.

950
00:50:02.929 --> 00:50:04.280
<v Speaker 2>And then I have to tell you the one thing

951
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:06.440
<v Speaker 2>before I break communication with them, they wanted me to share.

952
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh, please share. No, please go ahead.

953
00:50:08.420 --> 00:50:11.679
<v Speaker 2>It was just nothing big except they showed, they said, well,

954
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:16.019
<v Speaker 2>explain it like this, Nicole. So I'm getting all these

955
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:18.139
<v Speaker 2>things and sometimes they'll just throw up a visual. So

956
00:50:18.179 --> 00:50:20.550
<v Speaker 2>it's easy for me to describe the visual. Well, they said,

957
00:50:20.610 --> 00:50:23.150
<v Speaker 2>it's just like this. You know, those cans used to

958
00:50:23.170 --> 00:50:25.309
<v Speaker 2>have a can and a string tied to it. It's

959
00:50:25.349 --> 00:50:29.599
<v Speaker 2>just like that. It's like makeshift can with a string, right?

960
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:32.480
<v Speaker 2>You don't need a can and string. But they're like,

961
00:50:32.539 --> 00:50:34.800
<v Speaker 2>it's the same thing as a telephone. You're connected all

962
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the time. And they just thought it was funny. Your

963
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:38.800
<v Speaker 2>animals have a good sense of humor, but so do you.

964
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:41.670
<v Speaker 2>When you're with your friends, it really comes out. And

965
00:50:41.690 --> 00:50:44.190
<v Speaker 2>when you're calm and relaxed, your sense of humor really

966
00:50:44.230 --> 00:50:46.769
<v Speaker 2>comes out. And they have a really good sense of humor.

967
00:50:47.409 --> 00:50:49.570
<v Speaker 2>That's good to know. And they appreciate that about you, yeah.

968
00:50:49.949 --> 00:50:52.550
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes you can be sarcastic, and they love that.

969
00:50:53.070 --> 00:50:57.070
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you can, well, not with other people, not with them,

970
00:50:57.090 --> 00:51:00.050
<v Speaker 2>but you can drop a one-liner sometimes that, like, people

971
00:51:00.090 --> 00:51:02.610
<v Speaker 2>are like, could she just, you know, which is kind

972
00:51:02.690 --> 00:51:04.809
<v Speaker 2>of nice. But anyway. They are funny.

973
00:51:05.289 --> 00:51:09.210
<v Speaker 1>But I have one of those little square cameras, and

974
00:51:09.309 --> 00:51:11.909
<v Speaker 1>you can talk to them through it. And it's motion

975
00:51:11.969 --> 00:51:14.389
<v Speaker 1>activated so I can see when they're, so when Leota

976
00:51:14.429 --> 00:51:16.989
<v Speaker 1>was alone before we had the kittens, and that was

977
00:51:17.050 --> 00:51:19.090
<v Speaker 1>why I got the kittens, was to keep her company

978
00:51:19.130 --> 00:51:20.510
<v Speaker 1>when I, because I do travel so much.

979
00:51:20.530 --> 00:51:21.699
<v Speaker 2>Right. And.

980
00:51:23.460 --> 00:51:26.730
<v Speaker 1>Uh, so I called her one time when she was eating,

981
00:51:27.250 --> 00:51:28.889
<v Speaker 1>I said her name and then she ran to the

982
00:51:28.929 --> 00:51:31.469
<v Speaker 1>front door and then I felt bad. So later it was,

983
00:51:31.510 --> 00:51:33.869
<v Speaker 1>this was a long trip. So then later that night

984
00:51:34.929 --> 00:51:37.469
<v Speaker 1>I called her name again, but the light would have

985
00:51:37.510 --> 00:51:40.929
<v Speaker 1>had to have gone on, on that little camera. And she,

986
00:51:41.050 --> 00:51:42.809
<v Speaker 1>I saw her looking at it, you know, cause all

987
00:51:42.829 --> 00:51:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you can see is eyes, you know, when that bright light,

988
00:51:44.969 --> 00:51:47.780
<v Speaker 1>you know, with the cat's eyes. So then later that night,

989
00:51:47.860 --> 00:51:52.010
<v Speaker 1>it was like 11 o'clock, I got an alert that

990
00:51:52.030 --> 00:51:55.289
<v Speaker 1>there was movement in the house. And I had already

991
00:51:55.329 --> 00:51:56.909
<v Speaker 1>gone to sleep, but I picked up the phone. I

992
00:51:56.949 --> 00:51:59.909
<v Speaker 1>was quite nervous. Who would be in the house? And

993
00:52:00.289 --> 00:52:02.889
<v Speaker 1>Leota never gets on the table ever. She knows that

994
00:52:02.949 --> 00:52:05.969
<v Speaker 1>is not allowed. She was sitting on the table about

995
00:52:06.010 --> 00:52:08.760
<v Speaker 1>a foot from the camera, just staring at it. And

996
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:11.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she was trying to make communication

997
00:52:11.780 --> 00:52:13.400
<v Speaker 1>or if she was trying to figure out how it

998
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:15.760
<v Speaker 1>worked or whatever, but I thought that was funny.

999
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, she told me right what you were saying, right away.

1000
00:52:19.900 --> 00:52:20.920
<v Speaker 2>And what's her name?

1001
00:52:21.460 --> 00:52:21.940
<v Speaker 1>Leota.

1002
00:52:22.550 --> 00:52:25.449
<v Speaker 2>Leota. Leota. It's funny. Leota. Leota.

1003
00:52:26.409 --> 00:52:27.090
<v Speaker 1>Leota.

1004
00:52:27.110 --> 00:52:29.150
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she told me that it was confusing when you

1005
00:52:29.170 --> 00:52:32.489
<v Speaker 2>do that. So it's easier to... So telepathic is normal

1006
00:52:32.530 --> 00:52:36.969
<v Speaker 2>for them? Yes. To communicate telepathically, it's normal. They get that.

1007
00:52:37.489 --> 00:52:40.610
<v Speaker 2>But through that machine, she did think you were close?

1008
00:52:41.030 --> 00:52:41.309
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

1009
00:52:41.789 --> 00:52:43.929
<v Speaker 2>I know, and I felt bad. Well, you don't have

1010
00:52:43.949 --> 00:52:46.550
<v Speaker 2>to feel bad. They don't, you know, no big deal.

1011
00:52:46.590 --> 00:52:51.090
<v Speaker 2>She's not, you know, they don't, it's okay. Yeah, I mean,

1012
00:52:51.110 --> 00:52:52.550
<v Speaker 2>you don't need to feel bad. They don't want pity.

1013
00:52:52.590 --> 00:52:54.309
<v Speaker 2>They don't want, they just want mutual respect. That's all

1014
00:52:54.329 --> 00:52:56.650
<v Speaker 2>they care about. But she said it was confusing. And

1015
00:52:56.730 --> 00:52:59.989
<v Speaker 2>so I think what she said after just validated that confusion.

1016
00:53:00.050 --> 00:53:04.179
<v Speaker 2>She went to the machine, the camera to find you.

1017
00:53:04.699 --> 00:53:08.400
<v Speaker 2>And so, yeah. So what she said, you know, and

1018
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.460
<v Speaker 2>she wants to talk to me, to you about me.

1019
00:53:11.900 --> 00:53:13.909
<v Speaker 2>She wants to talk to you. Cause she's like, am

1020
00:53:13.989 --> 00:53:16.769
<v Speaker 2>I talking to, um, she likes this. You better watch out.

1021
00:53:17.170 --> 00:53:21.190
<v Speaker 2>She likes communicating. Uh, she, um, she's so funny. She said,

1022
00:53:21.210 --> 00:53:22.510
<v Speaker 2>do I have to talk to you to talk to her?

1023
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<v Speaker 2>Even though she knows, um, we're all talking together. Um, uh, shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just get that back. I'm sorry. Oh, she

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<v Speaker 2>wants to co-create with you. So she said, I'm not,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not worried about that camera anymore. Mm-hmm. because you

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<v Speaker 2>just tell her what the camera is. Just tell her,

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<v Speaker 2>explain to her what it is. It's just a device.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still where I am, but it's just a device

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<v Speaker 2>for me to see you and check on my little love,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you call it. But she'd love to co-create some

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<v Speaker 2>fun games with you because she's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>She has been, especially since we got the kitten. She's

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<v Speaker 1>like a different cat.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all fun, but she's a fun one. She said

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<v Speaker 2>you need to ask what co-creating is because she knows

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<v Speaker 2>you have a question mark about co-creating. but co-create some

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<v Speaker 2>things to do with her, like create fun things. Like

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<v Speaker 2>she shows me sliding across the floor. She'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>slide across the floor. I don't know if it would

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<v Speaker 2>be on paper or cardboard, or she would like for

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<v Speaker 2>you to just get always, Mary Ellen and audience, animals

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<v Speaker 2>want you to get as low to the ground that

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<v Speaker 2>you physically can, with them and be on the ground

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<v Speaker 2>with them. Totally different experience. but she would like you

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<v Speaker 2>to co-create some fun with her. So just grab something,

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00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 2>get down there with her, whatever you feel while you're

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<v Speaker 2>down there, ask her, what do you want to do?

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<v Speaker 2>How can we create some fun right now? Whatever comes

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<v Speaker 2>to mind, do it. Yeah. She shows temptations under cups.

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<v Speaker 2>She's going to throw those cups up left and right. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Put a box over her and then, then have all

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<v Speaker 2>the cups and have her go find them, whatever, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want. I know you keep a tight ship house,

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00:54:57.619 --> 00:55:01.059
<v Speaker 2>but no box around your house, but anyway, co-create some

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<v Speaker 2>fun games with her.

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<v Speaker 1>That really is a great idea. And I'm definitely going

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. So if anybody is interested in getting

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<v Speaker 1>a reading with you, they would go to harpspace.org.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Animal communication is harp, H-A-R-P-S-P-A-C-E.org. Harpspace.org. Yes. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Nicole Harp, artist or animal communicator, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I come up. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take another break and we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to talk more about So the animals

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<v Speaker 1>is sentient beings, which we talked a little bit about.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do want to ask a question about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the difficult end of life choices that we have

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<v Speaker 1>to make that definitely the hardest thing. And I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>interested to hear your feedback on some of those.

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<v Speaker 2>So hang out, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, friends. My name is David Trotter. I'm the founder

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<v Speaker 1>seeing you at Spirit Fest in 2026. Welcome back, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>to the Sanctuary for Mind, Body, and Spirit. We're having

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<v Speaker 1>a really interesting conversation about animals and communicating with animals,

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<v Speaker 1>animals as sentient beings, and how we communicate with them

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<v Speaker 1>with a professional animal communicator, Nicole Harp. She's also an artist, too,

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<v Speaker 1>and we want to talk about your really great animal deck,

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<v Speaker 1>Animal Truth Oracle deck. But first I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about something that can be very painful. It's definitely the

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<v Speaker 1>most painful part of owning pets, but inevitable is their.

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<v Speaker 2>End of life.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes we have to make very hard decisions if

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00:59:26.590 --> 00:59:29.579
<v Speaker 1>they're sick or if they're not well. are very old.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was wondering what advice you could share for

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<v Speaker 1>people who are going through that about them as sentient beings,

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<v Speaker 1>about our communication and about the choices we have to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is hard. It seems hard. I will tell

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<v Speaker 2>you the first thing, and this is from me. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>else I'll tell you is from the animals. But what

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<v Speaker 2>helped me is to get clear on how I feel

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<v Speaker 2>about death. When my mom passed from dementia, one of

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00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:57.739
<v Speaker 2>my spiritual awakenings when I wrote The Colors of Consciousness,

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote that during her time having dementia. And after

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<v Speaker 2>all the anger part of her dementia, she came out

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<v Speaker 2>pure consciousness, and it blew me wide open. I can

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01:00:07.539 --> 01:00:10.920
<v Speaker 2>only imagine that's what it's like when you come into

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<v Speaker 2>this world, pure love and light, and that's what she was.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, you know, if you know that this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>the end, that this is just a continuum, which they

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01:00:20.309 --> 01:00:25.530
<v Speaker 2>already know. Animals tell us trust their bodies to know

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01:00:26.050 --> 01:00:29.360
<v Speaker 2>how to pass. And it's three stages. I would say

1141
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:32.469
<v Speaker 2>get a death doula, but it's three stages. And to

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01:00:32.530 --> 01:00:35.570
<v Speaker 2>know those stages, you can, I don't know, you can,

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01:00:35.710 --> 01:00:37.230
<v Speaker 2>I know you can get them from, I know some

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01:00:37.250 --> 01:00:40.150
<v Speaker 2>people who that's what they specialize in with animal communication,

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01:00:40.210 --> 01:00:43.250
<v Speaker 2>the end of life. And if you understand the three stages,

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01:00:43.269 --> 01:00:46.059
<v Speaker 2>then it's not freaks you out when you see things

1147
01:00:46.699 --> 01:00:48.860
<v Speaker 2>like when you're in the air, the liquid stage and

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01:00:48.900 --> 01:00:51.320
<v Speaker 2>liquids coming out of the body because it just needs to,

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01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:54.469
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Because we put, the animals say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they, they do not, I'm going to say

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01:00:57.050 --> 01:00:59.610
<v Speaker 2>this and then hang with me. They don't suffer. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about our animals. That's a human construct. They

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01:01:03.309 --> 01:01:08.389
<v Speaker 2>do experience pain. Like, and if I'm hitting, if I'm ouch, ouch, ouch,

1154
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:10.599
<v Speaker 2>but if they're in pain, they're going to go by

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01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:13.000
<v Speaker 2>themselves and they're going to keep it to themselves. You

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01:01:13.019 --> 01:01:16.260
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? But the suffering is something we

1157
01:01:16.300 --> 01:01:21.519
<v Speaker 2>project on them. It's a human construct and they, they,

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<v Speaker 2>I have not communicated with myself an animal that said,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be... First of all, there's no standard

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<v Speaker 2>end of... I'll finish that sentence in a minute, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's no standard end of life choices across the board.

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<v Speaker 2>Each one is different, and there are windows they can

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<v Speaker 2>choose as they get to that point, but each one

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<v Speaker 2>is different, and it changes. I've had animals tell me...

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<v Speaker 2>I just communicated this weekend with one who said... She's

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<v Speaker 2>funny at the end of the communication. I had met

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<v Speaker 2>with this client before and I knew that that communication

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<v Speaker 2>was a kind of a precursor to this coming. But

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<v Speaker 2>the animal said straight out, like advanced directives. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what I want. Wow. Was very clear about it. Bring

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<v Speaker 2>me home. I want to be in your loving arms.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean, just was explicit about who was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be waiting for her, who was who she

1174
01:02:19.789 --> 01:02:21.829
<v Speaker 2>had already taken a glimpse of the other side. She

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<v Speaker 2>showed me. her with the light, you know, the light

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<v Speaker 2>here and her facing your humans. She wanted to be present.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to be present with you while they're here.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to rush it. Death is not something to

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<v Speaker 2>be medicated or to be fixed or to be euthanized. It's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there are times when euthanasia, please don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that there's not times for that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about animals, factory farming or other where people,

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<v Speaker 2>where animals languish in conditions. I'm not talking about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about our animals, end of life choices that

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<v Speaker 2>we have to make. We have such issues as I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like humans around death and dying. And what's crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>Mary Ellen, is birth is unattractive. It's cutting, it's bloody,

1188
01:03:09.030 --> 01:03:12.869
<v Speaker 2>it's screaming, but yet we celebrate it, right? And end

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<v Speaker 2>of life is beautiful and can be and beautiful. And

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<v Speaker 2>if we know what it looks like when there's a

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01:03:18.090 --> 01:03:19.829
<v Speaker 2>little bit of bubbles coming out of their mouth, we

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01:03:19.869 --> 01:03:22.420
<v Speaker 2>don't freak out and say, oh my God, they're suffering. And,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, here's the thing that they told me. They said,

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<v Speaker 2>what is the difference of you taking care of me

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm sick, you know, cleaning up my throw up

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<v Speaker 2>or my poop or when I'm a puppy or anything

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01:03:33.070 --> 01:03:37.949
<v Speaker 2>like that versus when I'm older and I might, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>urinate or whatever. It's when you do that with resentment,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, that's what they don't want. They don't want

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<v Speaker 2>your pity. They don't, you know, um, they don't want

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01:03:48.809 --> 01:03:50.929
<v Speaker 2>your pity. They don't want you to be the hero.

1202
01:03:50.949 --> 01:03:54.130
<v Speaker 2>They don't want to be, they want mutual respect. So

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01:03:55.750 --> 01:03:58.670
<v Speaker 2>knowing what that looks like helps you to do that

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<v Speaker 2>and not to be, please, please, please, listeners, don't let

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<v Speaker 2>your vets, I can't tell you how many people said,

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01:04:06.380 --> 01:04:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't, it didn't feel right. And the vet pushed them. Oh, really?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Into whatever, because that's what they think. Or because, just

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01:04:14.139 --> 01:04:17.260
<v Speaker 2>because medication is there, it doesn't mean it's always the

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<v Speaker 2>right thing. Animals will tell you if you can get

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01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:25.000
<v Speaker 2>a communication, they'll express to you what their wishes are.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of your guardians, you don't have to necessarily meet

1213
01:04:29.090 --> 01:04:31.610
<v Speaker 2>with me, would be great, but you already know, they

1214
01:04:31.630 --> 01:04:34.969
<v Speaker 2>already come knowing. Bella's guardian already knew she wanted to

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01:04:35.010 --> 01:04:37.230
<v Speaker 2>go get her and be with her. Well, because that's

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01:04:37.269 --> 01:04:40.190
<v Speaker 2>what Bella wanted and you're connected to them. I mean,

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01:04:40.469 --> 01:04:42.809
<v Speaker 2>you spend all your time with them. They know you,

1218
01:04:42.949 --> 01:04:46.070
<v Speaker 2>you agreed to this before you came in. Trust yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you get in, you cannot make a decision,

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<v Speaker 2>Mary Ellen, you can't make a decision when you're in

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01:04:51.250 --> 01:04:55.030
<v Speaker 2>a state of fear or anxiety or, you know, when

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01:04:55.070 --> 01:04:57.949
<v Speaker 2>you're amped up like that, you can't, you can't make

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01:04:58.489 --> 01:05:01.250
<v Speaker 2>a heartfelt decision. You can't feel the connection when you're

1224
01:05:01.269 --> 01:05:03.469
<v Speaker 2>like this. That's why I get so many calls end

1225
01:05:03.510 --> 01:05:06.650
<v Speaker 2>of life because Nicole, I don't trust myself right now

1226
01:05:06.730 --> 01:05:10.030
<v Speaker 2>because it's emotional connection, right? So that's why it is

1227
01:05:10.090 --> 01:05:13.139
<v Speaker 2>good to call an animal communicator. or definitely have you

1228
01:05:13.179 --> 01:05:15.980
<v Speaker 2>walk through it because I can't, how many clients have said,

1229
01:05:16.059 --> 01:05:18.000
<v Speaker 2>thank God I got the last two weeks with them

1230
01:05:18.300 --> 01:05:21.280
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't rush to euthanize them or the last whatever,

1231
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:24.199
<v Speaker 2>or the last whatever, because there's so much healing in

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01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:27.329
<v Speaker 2>that time. When my mom was inside the dementia, I

1233
01:05:27.369 --> 01:05:30.230
<v Speaker 2>would never have thought Dane to think that she wasn't

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01:05:30.289 --> 01:05:33.090
<v Speaker 2>there and talk about her like she wasn't there. She

1235
01:05:33.389 --> 01:05:36.190
<v Speaker 2>was going through so much work while she had that dementia,

1236
01:05:36.590 --> 01:05:42.050
<v Speaker 2>a spiritual, you know, clearing up stuff and animals, And humans,

1237
01:05:42.090 --> 01:05:44.380
<v Speaker 2>they're going to get lighter as, because you have to

1238
01:05:44.420 --> 01:05:46.320
<v Speaker 2>have your vibration, they have to raise your vibration and

1239
01:05:46.340 --> 01:05:48.380
<v Speaker 2>have to physically get out of the body. So they're

1240
01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:51.099
<v Speaker 2>going to get lighter. They're going to be non communicative.

1241
01:05:51.139 --> 01:05:52.659
<v Speaker 2>They're not going to be, you know, they're going to

1242
01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:54.340
<v Speaker 2>be in their own space. They're going to be feel

1243
01:05:54.380 --> 01:05:56.599
<v Speaker 2>like they're more away. Animals are going to treat them

1244
01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:59.619
<v Speaker 2>differently that are in the house. Everything changes as your

1245
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:02.300
<v Speaker 2>vibration raises. So you can physically get out of the body,

1246
01:06:02.579 --> 01:06:05.780
<v Speaker 2>but even once the body's gone, the soul's gone, the

1247
01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:09.250
<v Speaker 2>body's there. It's still doing work. So there, I, I, I,

1248
01:06:10.139 --> 01:06:12.179
<v Speaker 2>want to say to you even two days after to

1249
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:15.590
<v Speaker 2>keep the body you think about other cultures who do

1250
01:06:15.619 --> 01:06:19.050
<v Speaker 2>that because the body is doing its work the soulless

1251
01:06:19.329 --> 01:06:21.969
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah and it's such a special time i can't

1252
01:06:22.010 --> 01:06:24.710
<v Speaker 2>even my guy's.

1253
01:06:23.989 --> 01:06:26.289
<v Speaker 1>18 and oh wow.

1254
01:06:25.769 --> 01:06:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Great one that i um because of the years that

1255
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:32.980
<v Speaker 2>i've been doing communication no animal has passed since in

1256
01:06:33.019 --> 01:06:35.599
<v Speaker 2>the last 10 years that i will walk across that

1257
01:06:36.469 --> 01:06:38.630
<v Speaker 2>God knows if I can do it, walk him across.

1258
01:06:38.969 --> 01:06:41.929
<v Speaker 2>There's no bridge, but, you know, whatever. People can think

1259
01:06:41.949 --> 01:06:43.949
<v Speaker 2>there's a bridge, but, you know, whatever he that I

1260
01:06:43.969 --> 01:06:46.570
<v Speaker 2>will walk him into the next. Yeah, he and I

1261
01:06:47.019 --> 01:06:49.659
<v Speaker 2>together that we've been walking the journey and we'll do

1262
01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:52.500
<v Speaker 2>it as, you know, as beautifully as we can together,

1263
01:06:53.420 --> 01:06:56.059
<v Speaker 2>because I know kind of what to expect. Right. Yeah.

1264
01:06:57.820 --> 01:07:00.159
<v Speaker 2>We don't need to get three stages, but they can Google,

1265
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:03.280
<v Speaker 2>people can Google it. And yeah. And it's the main

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01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:05.300
<v Speaker 2>thing I think to take away from the question that

1267
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:07.119
<v Speaker 2>you asked me is, is to be in a state

1268
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:10.429
<v Speaker 2>of awareness where you can, you know, intuition only happens

1269
01:07:10.489 --> 01:07:12.869
<v Speaker 2>when you're in that state of peace and calm or

1270
01:07:12.889 --> 01:07:15.530
<v Speaker 2>you can receive right. And not be in your head

1271
01:07:15.989 --> 01:07:17.610
<v Speaker 2>and fear is not what you want.

1272
01:07:18.449 --> 01:07:20.010
<v Speaker 1>I feel like if you can be in your head,

1273
01:07:20.050 --> 01:07:22.739
<v Speaker 1>you'll just know. when the time is right, when they,

1274
01:07:22.969 --> 01:07:24.739
<v Speaker 1>you know, not be in your head, be in your,

1275
01:07:24.949 --> 01:07:25.659
<v Speaker 1>be in your body.

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01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:27.340
<v Speaker 2>That's what I mean. Yes. Yes.

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01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:30.980
<v Speaker 1>To just be in your, you know, that area of

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01:07:31.059 --> 01:07:34.079
<v Speaker 1>communication with them. And a lot of times I feel like,

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01:07:34.139 --> 01:07:37.159
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately I've dealt with it a lot because I've had

1280
01:07:37.179 --> 01:07:42.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of animals that they might be ready, but

1281
01:07:42.380 --> 01:07:44.420
<v Speaker 1>they want you to be ready and that they're more

1282
01:07:44.460 --> 01:07:45.900
<v Speaker 1>than happy to hang out until you are.

1283
01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:49.360
<v Speaker 2>That and there's no guilt. Right. Unless you, this is

1284
01:07:49.380 --> 01:07:50.880
<v Speaker 2>what they say, but I totally agree with you. And

1285
01:07:51.300 --> 01:07:53.340
<v Speaker 2>unless this is what they say about guilt, unless you

1286
01:07:53.380 --> 01:07:55.840
<v Speaker 2>on purpose did something to hurt them, then you need

1287
01:07:55.860 --> 01:07:56.539
<v Speaker 2>to look at yourself.

1288
01:07:57.019 --> 01:07:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1289
01:07:57.239 --> 01:07:59.880
<v Speaker 2>But, but we all know you didn't. So there's no

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01:07:59.920 --> 01:08:01.989
<v Speaker 2>such thing as guilt. If there's some kind of quote

1291
01:08:02.010 --> 01:08:05.329
<v Speaker 2>unquote misstep, then now, you know, and the next time,

1292
01:08:05.789 --> 01:08:08.250
<v Speaker 2>the next time you won't do it, you'll trust yourself

1293
01:08:08.309 --> 01:08:12.409
<v Speaker 2>and you'll, you'll let yourself have the two weeks or whatever, because,

1294
01:08:12.769 --> 01:08:14.840
<v Speaker 2>but it's the not knowing it's the what if what,

1295
01:08:15.139 --> 01:08:17.199
<v Speaker 2>and we get, and that's it. We get way ahead

1296
01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:20.649
<v Speaker 2>of ourselves and, Just have a plan B. Have an

1297
01:08:21.010 --> 01:08:23.270
<v Speaker 2>appointment or have a name of a vet that will

1298
01:08:23.289 --> 01:08:25.510
<v Speaker 2>come to your house. Or you can always take your

1299
01:08:25.590 --> 01:08:28.210
<v Speaker 2>animal there if you're free. Yeah, have a plan B, sure.

1300
01:08:28.270 --> 01:08:32.789
<v Speaker 2>But let's not sit there and go, when? When's it

1301
01:08:32.810 --> 01:08:36.670
<v Speaker 2>going to happen? We miss all the things right now, right?

1302
01:08:36.869 --> 01:08:39.850
<v Speaker 2>Like if you think about it, that's the physical space

1303
01:08:39.899 --> 01:08:43.500
<v Speaker 2>that you'll never have that kind of existence again. But,

1304
01:08:43.560 --> 01:08:46.220
<v Speaker 2>you know, and the thing is, knowing that it does continue.

1305
01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:49.899
<v Speaker 2>They continue. guide you from from just the animals told

1306
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:52.859
<v Speaker 2>me the other day that it's just another place another

1307
01:08:52.939 --> 01:08:55.340
<v Speaker 2>room if you will but it's just not as close

1308
01:08:55.380 --> 01:08:58.350
<v Speaker 2>in the physical and if you won't know it till

1309
01:08:58.369 --> 01:09:00.680
<v Speaker 2>you cross over and feel it but I felt that

1310
01:09:00.739 --> 01:09:02.779
<v Speaker 2>what they've showed me because I can they show me

1311
01:09:02.819 --> 01:09:04.880
<v Speaker 2>and I feel and they've said here's what it feels

1312
01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:09.020
<v Speaker 2>like Nicole it's just another place and it's but it's

1313
01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:11.960
<v Speaker 2>just not the dense it just doesn't it's just not

1314
01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:14.619
<v Speaker 2>the density that it is here so.

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01:09:14.579 --> 01:09:18.420
<v Speaker 1>Have you had crossed over animals come through in your communications.

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01:09:18.770 --> 01:09:21.829
<v Speaker 2>I got one, Tebow. She's brilliant. She's kind of the,

1317
01:09:22.409 --> 01:09:24.989
<v Speaker 2>you know, they go animal, species leader, and then collective,

1318
01:09:25.029 --> 01:09:28.770
<v Speaker 2>and she's kind of one of the oversouls. She's kind

1319
01:09:28.810 --> 01:09:31.329
<v Speaker 2>of the spokesperson for the dogs that have crossed, for

1320
01:09:31.750 --> 01:09:35.979
<v Speaker 2>animals that have crossed over that I work with. Yeah,

1321
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:39.720
<v Speaker 2>sometimes she's the voice. I try to kind of connect

1322
01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:42.539
<v Speaker 2>with them all pretty, but they'll pop in like, hey,

1323
01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:44.760
<v Speaker 2>we're here, or two or three of them will, because

1324
01:09:44.779 --> 01:09:45.579
<v Speaker 2>I've had 24. We've had 24 in our.

1325
01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:48.199
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

1326
01:09:48.420 --> 01:09:52.479
<v Speaker 2>Because we rescued all different ages, right? So, yeah. But, yeah,

1327
01:09:52.520 --> 01:09:58.770
<v Speaker 2>so I've had my certain ones come in, and they

1328
01:09:58.789 --> 01:10:01.569
<v Speaker 2>still help, Mary Ellen, in so many different ways. It

1329
01:10:01.930 --> 01:10:05.310
<v Speaker 2>just may not be the obvious ways that we... Some

1330
01:10:05.350 --> 01:10:09.189
<v Speaker 2>are louder than others, I should say. She's a terrier.

1331
01:10:09.409 --> 01:10:10.409
<v Speaker 1>Just like people.

1332
01:10:10.630 --> 01:10:13.170
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. She's spirited, and she's a terrier, so....

1333
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:16.770
<v Speaker 1>Tell us about, yeah.

1334
01:10:16.810 --> 01:10:18.850
<v Speaker 2>Let me say one last thing. No guilt. There's no

1335
01:10:18.909 --> 01:10:22.229
<v Speaker 2>guilt because they, no guilt. They said, do you want

1336
01:10:22.270 --> 01:10:25.029
<v Speaker 2>to take your whole relationship and boil it down to

1337
01:10:25.229 --> 01:10:29.949
<v Speaker 2>one moment, one time, one event? We're about love and

1338
01:10:30.289 --> 01:10:34.229
<v Speaker 2>conditional love. So don't do that. Don't take the whole

1339
01:10:34.250 --> 01:10:37.079
<v Speaker 2>relationship and make it about one decision. You know?

1340
01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That's very good advice too.

1341
01:10:38.899 --> 01:10:41.220
<v Speaker 2>As they say, they pay you to make the hard decisions.

1342
01:10:41.739 --> 01:10:44.180
<v Speaker 1>And I also think about if it was a family member,

1343
01:10:44.220 --> 01:10:46.989
<v Speaker 1>what if it was a human that was potentially suffering

1344
01:10:47.109 --> 01:10:48.850
<v Speaker 1>in a way that was like that? And you don't

1345
01:10:48.869 --> 01:10:51.069
<v Speaker 1>want to lose them either, but you know.

1346
01:10:51.090 --> 01:10:52.850
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I'm going to go back to the word suffering.

1347
01:10:52.949 --> 01:10:56.829
<v Speaker 2>I mean, unless there's a car accident or something like that,

1348
01:10:56.869 --> 01:10:59.590
<v Speaker 2>where they're like, obviously there's a whole gaping hole in them.

1349
01:10:59.630 --> 01:11:02.560
<v Speaker 2>And you know what I mean? Are they really suffering

1350
01:11:02.619 --> 01:11:05.920
<v Speaker 2>or is that something that we're imposing on them? And

1351
01:11:05.979 --> 01:11:08.340
<v Speaker 2>if we continue to give drugs and we know they're

1352
01:11:08.380 --> 01:11:11.260
<v Speaker 2>at end of life, then we're just prolonging that natural,

1353
01:11:12.140 --> 01:11:15.000
<v Speaker 2>They said, Mary Ellen, trust that their body knows what

1354
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:19.039
<v Speaker 2>to do. I'm not saying this like across the board.

1355
01:11:19.100 --> 01:11:22.420
<v Speaker 2>There's no, I mean, sure. There's time when euthanasia is

1356
01:11:22.460 --> 01:11:26.340
<v Speaker 2>the right thing, but it's, it, it's mostly for humans

1357
01:11:26.840 --> 01:11:31.899
<v Speaker 2>because of our perceptions on death. Animals know what to do.

1358
01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:35.100
<v Speaker 2>They feel at home with it. That's beautiful. They, you know,

1359
01:11:35.479 --> 01:11:38.460
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have yet to have one who said

1360
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:43.100
<v Speaker 2>I would like to be euthanized now. there's all kinds of, that's,

1361
01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:46.979
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean that, that ones don't, but you know,

1362
01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:52.470
<v Speaker 2>but again, it's not something that should be hurried or medicated. No,

1363
01:11:52.550 --> 01:11:55.090
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's, I, that's from them. That is, none

1364
01:11:55.130 --> 01:11:57.310
<v Speaker 2>of this is from me. It's from all the animals

1365
01:11:57.350 --> 01:11:58.430
<v Speaker 2>that I've communicated with.

1366
01:11:58.710 --> 01:11:59.069
<v Speaker 1>Nice.

1367
01:11:59.470 --> 01:12:03.430
<v Speaker 2>That's stuff I'm making up. My, my, my opinions about

1368
01:12:03.470 --> 01:12:04.979
<v Speaker 2>it don't matter except for when I said to you

1369
01:12:04.989 --> 01:12:07.779
<v Speaker 2>the one thing I, whatever I said, I don't know. Okay.

1370
01:12:07.800 --> 01:12:08.810
<v Speaker 2>But All right.

1371
01:12:08.949 --> 01:12:11.609
<v Speaker 1>And now on a lighter note, tell us about your deck,

1372
01:12:11.689 --> 01:12:14.810
<v Speaker 1>how you created it. I'm interested to see it. It's

1373
01:12:14.850 --> 01:12:17.529
<v Speaker 1>beautiful what you showed me. And we're getting a sneak

1374
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:19.399
<v Speaker 1>peek because it's not officially published yet.

1375
01:12:19.989 --> 01:12:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes. So let's just tell everyone. So I, an artist,

1376
01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:26.859
<v Speaker 2>an animal communicator, I created a, this is the box

1377
01:12:27.060 --> 01:12:33.840
<v Speaker 2>and cards here, a 203-page book. I created a two-sided card,

1378
01:12:33.939 --> 01:12:37.739
<v Speaker 2>Oracle Deck cards, 54 of them. The sole painting is,

1379
01:12:38.750 --> 01:12:40.850
<v Speaker 2>each one of the two sides, the soul paintings on

1380
01:12:40.869 --> 01:12:45.670
<v Speaker 2>the front and a soul painting in case viewers don't

1381
01:12:45.710 --> 01:12:48.710
<v Speaker 2>know is, I'll just hold one card up. It's the

1382
01:12:48.750 --> 01:12:52.069
<v Speaker 2>emotional and energetic imprint of that being or that essence,

1383
01:12:52.409 --> 01:12:55.949
<v Speaker 2>whatever you call it. And then what, how it started

1384
01:12:56.029 --> 01:12:58.810
<v Speaker 2>out was the animals in all these communications were giving

1385
01:12:58.869 --> 01:13:03.340
<v Speaker 2>me profound truths, the way that they see and experience

1386
01:13:03.380 --> 01:13:06.560
<v Speaker 2>the world as divine beings living a physical existence. Now

1387
01:13:06.579 --> 01:13:09.409
<v Speaker 2>this is one of their, Profound Truths. They have more

1388
01:13:09.449 --> 01:13:16.539
<v Speaker 2>in the book. Who's Chico? Tell us about Chico. Chico. Now,

1389
01:13:16.659 --> 01:13:20.800
<v Speaker 2>this one has a mixture of domestic and wild. And

1390
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:23.729
<v Speaker 2>I communicated with each individual animal for this. And then

1391
01:13:23.779 --> 01:13:27.470
<v Speaker 2>with the wild animals, it was each one animal, except

1392
01:13:27.489 --> 01:13:30.510
<v Speaker 2>for wolves. I communicated with all the wolves.

1393
01:13:31.029 --> 01:13:31.390
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

1394
01:13:31.939 --> 01:13:36.279
<v Speaker 2>But Chico is Debbie Mead's cat in California. But these

1395
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:39.729
<v Speaker 2>are clients. Most of these are people that I know

1396
01:13:39.739 --> 01:13:46.069
<v Speaker 2>who wanted to be in the deck. But it started

1397
01:13:46.109 --> 01:13:50.270
<v Speaker 2>from the animals sharing their profound truths. And they were

1398
01:13:50.329 --> 01:13:52.890
<v Speaker 2>just blowing me away with these. So that started there.

1399
01:13:52.909 --> 01:13:56.600
<v Speaker 2>And then this reads just as an oracle deck would.

1400
01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:01.510
<v Speaker 2>So an oracle deck is different from a tarot because... Well,

1401
01:14:01.529 --> 01:14:04.869
<v Speaker 2>it's got the numerology, right? And it's got the image, right?

1402
01:14:04.890 --> 01:14:07.869
<v Speaker 2>The soul painting. So the soul painting in itself is

1403
01:14:07.989 --> 01:14:12.289
<v Speaker 2>one way to experience the art because with abstract art,

1404
01:14:12.989 --> 01:14:16.550
<v Speaker 2>you have to, it's bottom-up processing. You have to be

1405
01:14:16.609 --> 01:14:17.930
<v Speaker 2>out of your head and you have to bring more

1406
01:14:17.949 --> 01:14:21.380
<v Speaker 2>of yourself to complete the image. And they said a

1407
01:14:21.409 --> 01:14:26.600
<v Speaker 2>soul cannot be confined to a label or a fixed

1408
01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:29.810
<v Speaker 2>image or a name. So therefore a soul has to

1409
01:14:29.829 --> 01:14:32.949
<v Speaker 2>be abstract and colors and feelings. You have to feel

1410
01:14:32.989 --> 01:14:36.850
<v Speaker 2>into it. You can't think into it. And then they

1411
01:14:36.909 --> 01:14:40.449
<v Speaker 2>started sharing in the book. Um, it gives you, um,

1412
01:14:41.060 --> 01:14:44.699
<v Speaker 2>a couple exercises. It talks about animal communication, uh, exercise

1413
01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:48.119
<v Speaker 2>to communicate with your own animals, talks about colors. It

1414
01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:53.279
<v Speaker 2>gives you animals, uh, spreads to ways to use the cards. And, um,

1415
01:14:54.060 --> 01:14:56.359
<v Speaker 2>it talks about art and just animals in our lives.

1416
01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:02.489
<v Speaker 2>And then, um, Each card has numerology. I don't, you know,

1417
01:15:02.710 --> 01:15:07.390
<v Speaker 2>I'll just show you. Okay. Wisdom about the profound truths.

1418
01:15:07.409 --> 01:15:09.640
<v Speaker 2>You use it just like a normal deck. So if

1419
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:12.140
<v Speaker 2>you were to ask me a question, do you, whatever

1420
01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:14.600
<v Speaker 2>question you would ask your Oracle deck or your Tarot,

1421
01:15:15.140 --> 01:15:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I kind of shuffle the cards and then I pick

1422
01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:21.600
<v Speaker 2>one and inevitably. Yeah. You want to do that? Sure.

1423
01:15:22.199 --> 01:15:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:24.680
<v Speaker 2>You're trying to think of a question. Or you could

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01:15:24.699 --> 01:15:26.579
<v Speaker 2>just say, what's the message I need to know today?

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01:15:26.939 --> 01:15:28.899
<v Speaker 1>What's the next message I need to know today? That

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01:15:28.939 --> 01:15:30.960
<v Speaker 1>would be something I would use Oracle cards for.

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01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:34.210
<v Speaker 2>And then so I'm just going to pick one here

1429
01:15:34.289 --> 01:15:36.319
<v Speaker 2>and not look. And there's multiple ways you can do it.

1430
01:15:36.770 --> 01:15:41.810
<v Speaker 2>And I've got Olivia Gray. And one you would respond to,

1431
01:15:41.989 --> 01:15:44.689
<v Speaker 2>you know, and the book, they help you do it too.

1432
01:15:45.100 --> 01:15:49.840
<v Speaker 2>They even interpret their own soul painting, Marianne. So you

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01:15:49.899 --> 01:15:53.899
<v Speaker 2>experience the art and then you can read the quote

1434
01:15:53.939 --> 01:15:56.039
<v Speaker 2>on the back and then look at the book. Now,

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01:15:56.100 --> 01:16:01.680
<v Speaker 2>her quote is, gender is fluid, is a fluid experience,

1436
01:16:01.739 --> 01:16:07.970
<v Speaker 2>not a label. So, yeah. So that's something, judgment, labeling,

1437
01:16:08.229 --> 01:16:11.729
<v Speaker 2>that's something that they're asking you to look at today. Yeah.

1438
01:16:13.489 --> 01:16:17.430
<v Speaker 2>And so we all need to look at that. We

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01:16:17.470 --> 01:16:19.369
<v Speaker 2>all need to look at that. And then you just

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01:16:19.409 --> 01:16:21.850
<v Speaker 2>go to that number, which is 42. Four and two

1441
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:24.399
<v Speaker 2>is six. You can look at numerology or you can

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01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:28.380
<v Speaker 2>go to her page in the book and Olivia Gray,

1443
01:16:28.420 --> 01:16:34.439
<v Speaker 2>who's a cat and read her guidance on that quote and,

1444
01:16:34.699 --> 01:16:37.000
<v Speaker 2>or her interpretation of the soul painting. And I'm going

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01:16:37.020 --> 01:16:40.069
<v Speaker 2>to read this to you because this is something they

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01:16:40.149 --> 01:16:44.229
<v Speaker 2>added called pulling the card. Olivia Gray sees the aspect

1447
01:16:44.289 --> 01:16:46.649
<v Speaker 2>of you that really lacks a desire to fit into

1448
01:16:46.689 --> 01:16:50.989
<v Speaker 2>a standard or a norm specifically for you. Trust the

1449
01:16:51.050 --> 01:16:53.260
<v Speaker 2>part of you that feels natural by being you.

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01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

1451
01:16:55.699 --> 01:16:58.100
<v Speaker 2>I can attest to this. If I tune into your energy,

1452
01:16:58.220 --> 01:17:00.119
<v Speaker 2>everything you've done in your life has been a little

1453
01:17:00.260 --> 01:17:03.460
<v Speaker 2>outside of the box, a little outside. You're not scared

1454
01:17:03.479 --> 01:17:06.189
<v Speaker 2>to work alone. You like to work by yourself. Sometimes

1455
01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:08.550
<v Speaker 2>I like it better. You say, sometimes you say other

1456
01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:10.949
<v Speaker 2>people get in my way. I like to be outside

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01:17:10.970 --> 01:17:13.149
<v Speaker 2>of the fray. I like to work outside of the

1458
01:17:13.189 --> 01:17:16.689
<v Speaker 2>fray and you come, you come in when you need

1459
01:17:16.729 --> 01:17:19.689
<v Speaker 2>a sense of community and when you need some compassion

1460
01:17:19.710 --> 01:17:24.220
<v Speaker 2>and some, you come in to the fray when, it's needed,

1461
01:17:24.300 --> 01:17:27.199
<v Speaker 2>then you always go back outside. And so I think that,

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01:17:27.859 --> 01:17:31.460
<v Speaker 2>that idea of gender is fluid. It's all fluid, right?

1463
01:17:31.539 --> 01:17:34.739
<v Speaker 2>But like being who you are, pulling the card and

1464
01:17:35.119 --> 01:17:37.500
<v Speaker 2>just allowing yourself to be even more who you are,

1465
01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Mary Ellen. So those things that you wanted to try

1466
01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:43.100
<v Speaker 2>that you're thinking about trying that are outside the box

1467
01:17:43.149 --> 01:17:44.369
<v Speaker 2>or that are just something new, do it.

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01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:47.609
<v Speaker 1>That's a great, great message for today.

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01:17:48.250 --> 01:17:50.529
<v Speaker 2>You could read on, but you know, I just said

1470
01:17:50.569 --> 01:17:53.829
<v Speaker 2>that we just did that impromptu, but It's beautiful what

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01:17:53.869 --> 01:17:57.270
<v Speaker 2>they share. Anyway, Kickstarter. Oh, yeah.

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01:17:57.289 --> 01:17:57.989
<v Speaker 1>Tell us about that.

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01:17:58.590 --> 01:18:00.890
<v Speaker 2>So this won't come into fruition unless I meet my

1474
01:18:00.930 --> 01:18:04.960
<v Speaker 2>goal on Kickstarter. But Kickstarter is a crowdfunding platform that's amazing.

1475
01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:10.800
<v Speaker 2>It allows every, like, grassroots, anybody for $ 50, whatever the

1476
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:14.399
<v Speaker 2>price is. I think my decks are $ 50. And then

1477
01:18:14.420 --> 01:18:18.359
<v Speaker 2>there's different tiers. You can get communications, love letter from

1478
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:20.270
<v Speaker 2>your pet. There's different tiers. You'll be able to see

1479
01:18:20.289 --> 01:18:23.590
<v Speaker 2>this when it goes live on October 6th. It's a

1480
01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:26.449
<v Speaker 2>crowdfunding platform that allows every person to be part of

1481
01:18:26.510 --> 01:18:32.210
<v Speaker 2>some bringing a creation to creators project to fruition. There's

1482
01:18:32.310 --> 01:18:35.510
<v Speaker 2>all different kinds of projects. So Oracle X are a

1483
01:18:35.550 --> 01:18:39.369
<v Speaker 2>big part of Kickstarter. So there's a link that I

1484
01:18:39.409 --> 01:18:41.090
<v Speaker 2>have and hopefully we can put it in the show

1485
01:18:41.149 --> 01:18:44.109
<v Speaker 2>notes where it's my backer kit link. And then they

1486
01:18:44.149 --> 01:18:46.210
<v Speaker 2>can just put their email in and I'll send them

1487
01:18:46.250 --> 01:18:48.569
<v Speaker 2>emails and October 6th. They'll be like, we're live.

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01:18:49.050 --> 01:18:49.289
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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01:18:49.750 --> 01:18:50.449
<v Speaker 2>Go in. and pledge.

1490
01:18:50.890 --> 01:18:52.310
<v Speaker 1>We will do that for sure.

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01:18:52.979 --> 01:18:56.079
<v Speaker 2>And signing up doesn't mean you've agreed to anything except following.

1492
01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:58.979
<v Speaker 2>So I just get an idea of how many more

1493
01:18:59.020 --> 01:19:02.779
<v Speaker 2>people I need to follow and make this bring to fruition.

1494
01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. All right. So we'll put that in the social

1495
01:19:05.260 --> 01:19:08.460
<v Speaker 1>media posts and then also your, the show description and

1496
01:19:08.479 --> 01:19:11.800
<v Speaker 1>your bio page too. excuse me. So if people can

1497
01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:15.420
<v Speaker 1>go click that, that would definitely help Nicole out for, um,

1498
01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:18.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then where will we be able to

1499
01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:19.420
<v Speaker 1>buy your deck when it's released?

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01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:22.810
<v Speaker 2>It'll help the world because this, it, I, I, I

1501
01:19:22.899 --> 01:19:26.789
<v Speaker 2>promise you, and I don't make promises, Jessica, um, Mary Allen, um,

1502
01:19:26.909 --> 01:19:30.750
<v Speaker 2>it'll change how you experience your own animals yourself and

1503
01:19:30.789 --> 01:19:33.529
<v Speaker 2>the natural world. I've, I promise you it's mind blowing

1504
01:19:33.890 --> 01:19:35.949
<v Speaker 2>and I'm only lucky enough to be the vehicle in

1505
01:19:35.989 --> 01:19:40.180
<v Speaker 2>the translation of this. Um, And the next three are

1506
01:19:40.220 --> 01:19:42.619
<v Speaker 2>even going to be, I'm just so excited about, I'm

1507
01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:45.819
<v Speaker 2>humbled that they chose me. And I feel like I

1508
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:48.359
<v Speaker 2>did them a good, I feel like I did them justice.

1509
01:19:48.850 --> 01:19:53.409
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I, if this makes its goal, then it'll

1510
01:19:53.449 --> 01:19:55.909
<v Speaker 2>be on my website. The decks will be, but, but

1511
01:19:55.989 --> 01:19:58.170
<v Speaker 2>really how to get the free stuff is to do

1512
01:19:58.210 --> 01:20:02.710
<v Speaker 2>the Kickstarter. There's tons of freebies, magnets, bookmarks. I mean,

1513
01:20:02.750 --> 01:20:04.750
<v Speaker 2>that's part of Kickstarter, right? That you get to get

1514
01:20:04.850 --> 01:20:07.979
<v Speaker 2>in on the ground level. you create the momentum for

1515
01:20:08.020 --> 01:20:11.640
<v Speaker 2>everybody else. And that, that's what we need really the

1516
01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:12.979
<v Speaker 2>momentum to get this going.

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01:20:13.510 --> 01:20:16.550
<v Speaker 1>I mean, when it hits your goal, not if, when

1518
01:20:16.590 --> 01:20:17.250
<v Speaker 1>it hits your goal.

1519
01:20:17.289 --> 01:20:21.189
<v Speaker 2>No, when, and then hopefully after, because, you know, the

1520
01:20:21.229 --> 01:20:22.829
<v Speaker 2>goal is just to kind of give a little bit

1521
01:20:22.850 --> 01:20:26.500
<v Speaker 2>of compensation to the artist, but yeah. And then it's

1522
01:20:26.539 --> 01:20:29.300
<v Speaker 2>going to help with the future decks. And also one

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01:20:29.340 --> 01:20:32.420
<v Speaker 2>last thing, I am giving 5% to Earth Fire Institute.

1524
01:20:32.520 --> 01:20:35.689
<v Speaker 2>It's a nonprofit organization. that helps build animal, I mean,

1525
01:20:35.909 --> 01:20:41.680
<v Speaker 2>purchase wildlife corridors for natural migration near the Grand Tetons

1526
01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:44.659
<v Speaker 2>and the Yukon. I was lucky enough to be in

1527
01:20:44.699 --> 01:20:48.579
<v Speaker 2>Earth Fire and communicate with those animals. Wow. Yeah, it's

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01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:48.960
<v Speaker 2>pretty cool.

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01:20:49.739 --> 01:20:52.439
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine. When I think of the fires, that's

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01:20:52.479 --> 01:20:55.439
<v Speaker 1>the first thing I think of. I recently went to

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01:20:55.510 --> 01:20:59.050
<v Speaker 1>New Mexico, and we drove far north from Santa Fe,

1532
01:20:59.810 --> 01:21:02.449
<v Speaker 1>we wanted to hike to where there's some rock formations

1533
01:21:02.609 --> 01:21:04.569
<v Speaker 1>that we thought, you know, it was kind of an easy.

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01:21:05.859 --> 01:21:06.199
<v Speaker 2>Hike.

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01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:08.000
<v Speaker 1>And then we drove all the way up there and

1536
01:21:08.220 --> 01:21:11.840
<v Speaker 1>every single trail was closed because of bears. And they

1537
01:21:11.899 --> 01:21:14.319
<v Speaker 1>said every, they are just seeing so much of them,

1538
01:21:14.340 --> 01:21:18.199
<v Speaker 1>they're everywhere. And we were thinking about the fires. The

1539
01:21:18.220 --> 01:21:21.409
<v Speaker 1>fires were still, you know, 15 miles away, but how

1540
01:21:21.470 --> 01:21:23.890
<v Speaker 1>many animals are getting displaced because of that? That's one

1541
01:21:23.909 --> 01:21:26.550
<v Speaker 1>of the things we thought of was perhaps. That's why

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01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:28.489
<v Speaker 1>there had been more of that. So then I wanted

1543
01:21:28.529 --> 01:21:30.949
<v Speaker 1>to see a bear. I was, that my friend, I

1544
01:21:30.989 --> 01:21:31.750
<v Speaker 1>was with said, do you?

1545
01:21:31.770 --> 01:21:36.390
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you, right? Maybe not in that situation, but

1546
01:21:36.750 --> 01:21:38.909
<v Speaker 2>my friend lives on the West Coast in Seattle and

1547
01:21:38.939 --> 01:21:41.720
<v Speaker 2>she said that that's the issue. All the bears are

1548
01:21:41.739 --> 01:21:45.239
<v Speaker 2>being just pushed out. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's bad. When

1549
01:21:45.260 --> 01:21:48.039
<v Speaker 2>just how much land that is because urban sprawling that

1550
01:21:48.060 --> 01:21:50.979
<v Speaker 2>we are taking up, but the animals need, I had

1551
01:21:51.020 --> 01:21:53.630
<v Speaker 2>no idea how much land they need to migrate so

1552
01:21:53.670 --> 01:21:57.720
<v Speaker 2>they can produce. They more than we think they do.

1553
01:21:57.810 --> 01:22:00.899
<v Speaker 2>So they're not ancestrally, you know, so it's not, you know,

1554
01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:04.479
<v Speaker 2>so they're reproducing, but yeah. So all this is the

1555
01:22:04.539 --> 01:22:07.220
<v Speaker 2>animals are speaking and I, and they're, I definitely gave

1556
01:22:07.260 --> 01:22:10.760
<v Speaker 2>them a voice. It's their voice, their perspective. It's not me.

1557
01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:13.970
<v Speaker 2>It's all from the animals, except the numerology that's from me,

1558
01:22:14.409 --> 01:22:16.170
<v Speaker 2>but the rest of the 90% is all from them.

1559
01:22:17.109 --> 01:22:18.409
<v Speaker 2>So that's wonderful.

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01:22:19.069 --> 01:22:23.029
<v Speaker 1>I saw on CBS Sunday morning yesterday, Stuart, Stuart Copeland

1561
01:22:23.090 --> 01:22:27.920
<v Speaker 1>of the, the, the police. the band, the police is doing,

1562
01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:31.260
<v Speaker 1>it's called an album. The album is called wild concerto.

1563
01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:34.970
<v Speaker 1>And there was a guy that takes a really high

1564
01:22:35.010 --> 01:22:38.529
<v Speaker 1>powered microphone and just goes in the wild and then

1565
01:22:38.569 --> 01:22:41.510
<v Speaker 1>can isolate. And he can literally turn the different animal

1566
01:22:41.550 --> 01:22:44.909
<v Speaker 1>sounds into mute. Like, you know, he knows right when

1567
01:22:44.930 --> 01:22:48.909
<v Speaker 1>to have them make the sound. And then Stuart Copeland's,

1568
01:22:48.930 --> 01:22:53.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, a beautiful musician too. And that was, When

1569
01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:56.060
<v Speaker 1>you listen to it, it's just so heartfelt. It's so wonderful.

1570
01:22:56.890 --> 01:22:59.609
<v Speaker 1>I would recommend anybody that feels like we do, you know,

1571
01:22:59.729 --> 01:23:01.649
<v Speaker 1>about just being in concert with the animals and the

1572
01:23:01.689 --> 01:23:04.489
<v Speaker 1>land and everything to check that out. But tell us,

1573
01:23:04.590 --> 01:23:07.869
<v Speaker 1>we've just got two minutes left about your classes at

1574
01:23:07.890 --> 01:23:09.130
<v Speaker 1>the Edgar Cayce Center.

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01:23:10.189 --> 01:23:13.260
<v Speaker 2>So I do animal communication and soul painting. So I

1576
01:23:13.279 --> 01:23:15.960
<v Speaker 2>teach soul painting several times, three, four times a year.

1577
01:23:16.859 --> 01:23:19.000
<v Speaker 2>The one in December, I just taught one, and that

1578
01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:23.010
<v Speaker 2>was for grief and loss. Wow. I teach a soul

1579
01:23:23.020 --> 01:23:26.210
<v Speaker 2>painting in December for self-acceptance. So we'll focus on that

1580
01:23:26.590 --> 01:23:29.710
<v Speaker 2>for that particular soul painting. But there's so much healing

1581
01:23:29.750 --> 01:23:31.770
<v Speaker 2>in that. It's not about coming in as an artist and,

1582
01:23:31.829 --> 01:23:33.890
<v Speaker 2>you know, be making your best piece ever. It's not

1583
01:23:33.930 --> 01:23:36.130
<v Speaker 2>about that for a show. Even though I have a

1584
01:23:36.149 --> 01:23:41.390
<v Speaker 2>degree from VCU, it's different. It's all about just opening up, healing,

1585
01:23:41.989 --> 01:23:45.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of somatic stuff, feeling it, letting the colors, you know, come,

1586
01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:48.439
<v Speaker 2>which colors are going to, what comes out. And you know,

1587
01:23:49.010 --> 01:23:51.170
<v Speaker 2>It's just like this. You never know what's going to

1588
01:23:51.210 --> 01:23:53.890
<v Speaker 2>come out. And then, you know, there's a writing that

1589
01:23:54.109 --> 01:23:56.130
<v Speaker 2>people write as well with it, some kind of, whether

1590
01:23:56.149 --> 01:23:58.289
<v Speaker 2>it comes out in stream of conscious or poetic form.

1591
01:23:58.810 --> 01:24:01.310
<v Speaker 2>And then I have a webinar coming up, $ 25 at

1592
01:24:01.409 --> 01:24:07.430
<v Speaker 2>the ARE. It's September 16th. It's all about communication and

1593
01:24:07.449 --> 01:24:09.989
<v Speaker 2>there's three exercises. So I do that and I do

1594
01:24:10.050 --> 01:24:14.630
<v Speaker 2>like evenings where I have an audience and I communicate

1595
01:24:14.670 --> 01:24:18.689
<v Speaker 2>messages from the other side for their animals. Nice. So, yeah.

1596
01:24:18.710 --> 01:24:21.949
<v Speaker 1>So, so that would be on your website, how to find,

1597
01:24:22.260 --> 01:24:22.850
<v Speaker 1>to register.

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01:24:22.909 --> 01:24:23.140
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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01:24:23.180 --> 01:24:26.000
<v Speaker 1>And then I'm sure on the Edgar Casey site, edgarcasey.org,

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01:24:26.119 --> 01:24:26.479
<v Speaker 1>it would.

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01:24:26.359 --> 01:24:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Be on there too.

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01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:28.460
<v Speaker 1>You are harpspace.org.

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01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:29.180
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:34.199
<v Speaker 1>And this has been such a great conversation and I've

1605
01:24:34.260 --> 01:24:37.640
<v Speaker 1>learned so much about animals and different ways to communicate

1606
01:24:37.680 --> 01:24:40.619
<v Speaker 1>with them and how they communicate with us too. And

1607
01:24:40.680 --> 01:24:43.479
<v Speaker 1>the lessons that they teach us are so important. And

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01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:45.649
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that that's something that we ever really

1609
01:24:45.710 --> 01:24:48.569
<v Speaker 1>considered is how much we do learn from them. So

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01:24:49.430 --> 01:24:52.930
<v Speaker 1>thank you for being that messenger for that. So all right. Well,

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01:24:53.050 --> 01:24:54.909
<v Speaker 1>I would love to have you on again. I think

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01:24:54.930 --> 01:24:57.229
<v Speaker 1>there's so many other interesting things we could get into

1613
01:24:57.270 --> 01:25:01.729
<v Speaker 1>with all of these and Kickstarter. Everybody look for the

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01:25:01.770 --> 01:25:04.689
<v Speaker 1>link and support Nicole in this endeavor so that we

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01:25:04.710 --> 01:25:05.409
<v Speaker 1>can have more decks.

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01:25:06.109 --> 01:25:09.569
<v Speaker 2>So. Right. More animal wisdom.

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01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:10.949
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

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01:25:10.979 --> 01:25:11.109
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:14.659
<v Speaker 1>I love it. All right. Well, thank you very much

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01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:17.079
<v Speaker 1>for your time, for joining us here and for everybody

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01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:18.460
<v Speaker 1>that's listening and we'll see you again.

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01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:19.180
<v Speaker 2>Bye-bye.

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01:25:21.260 --> 01:25:23.649
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for spending this time with me here on

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01:25:23.689 --> 01:25:28.210
<v Speaker 1>the sanctuary network. Tune in every Wednesday at 5 p.m.

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01:25:28.310 --> 01:25:29.970
<v Speaker 2>Pacific, 8 p.m.

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01:25:30.130 --> 01:25:34.710
<v Speaker 1>Eastern on the transformation network. As we gather to share stories,

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01:25:35.229 --> 01:25:40.149
<v Speaker 1>wisdom and practices that remind us of something essential. Sanctuary

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<v Speaker 1>isn't just a place you go. It's a space you

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<v Speaker 1>create in your heart, your home, and your daily life.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope today's conversation sparked something in you, a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of belonging, a new idea, or simply a reminder that

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<v Speaker 1>you are not alone on this journey. If this touched you,

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<v Speaker 1>please share it with someone who could use a little light. Together,

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<v Speaker 1>we can grow this circle of sanctuary and inspire a

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<v Speaker 1>ripple of healing around the world. And don't forget, the

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<v Speaker 1>journey continues at spiritfestusa.com. the sanctuary network.com and natural wellness expo.com.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, every week right here on transformation network

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<v Speaker 1>until next time, may you be well, may you be

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<v Speaker 1>inspired and may you live fully in sanctuary. Thank you.