1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right podcast. Today, 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,480 we are very excited we have a special guest. It's 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:10,119 Carl Higbee, the host of Carl Higby's Frontline on news Max. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,679 Speaker 2: He's the author of two books. He is a former 5 00:00:12,759 --> 00:00:15,320 Navy seal. He is a complete badass. 6 00:00:15,839 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: And we know that you have written obviously about your 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,960 time in the Seals. But for folks who are in 8 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:25,199 our audience who may not know your story, what made 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,719 you sign up for what can arguably be considered like 10 00:00:28,879 --> 00:00:30,960 one of the toughest gigs on the planet. 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: Well, actually, well, first, thanks for having me. Sure you 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,240 know this is a kind of an interesting one because 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,799 I always wanted to be a seal since I was 14 00:00:39,799 --> 00:00:43,039 like four years old. Wow, And I didn't really know 15 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:45,280 what it was obviously then, but I always wanted to 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,399 do it. So I after nine to eleven, I was like, shit, 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,520 I'm just going to drop out of high school and 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,119 go do this. Turns out you need a high school 19 00:00:55,159 --> 00:00:55,719 degree to join. 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,079 Speaker 4: The I to finish high school, so you are anxious. 21 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: I was a senior in high school and like you know, 22 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:05,359 a lot of my friends their parents worked in the 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,560 trade center, and some of them didn't make it out. 24 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,159 So it was like deeply personal that anybody who lived 25 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:13,239 in Greenwich, Connecticut, because there was a huge swath of people. Right. 26 00:01:13,599 --> 00:01:17,840 So my mom convinced me to go to college, you know, 27 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,200 like I had two officers for grandparents and they were like, 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,239 you need to be an officer, you need to go 29 00:01:21,239 --> 00:01:22,560 to college. I was like, all right, let me check 30 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,239 this stuff out. Well, college was definitely not for me. 31 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,879 It was like one of those things. So I remember 32 00:01:27,879 --> 00:01:31,040 we had just starting putting boots on the ground in Iraq, 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,840 and I was like, what the hell am I doing here? 34 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,280 Like I'm just dinking around in English class, not learning anything, 35 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,359 and I get this paperback from one of my teachers. 36 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,159 It was like is this good literature? Like one of 37 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,560 those stupid questions, and I was like, this book sucked. 38 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:46,879 Now I didn't read the book. I just read the 39 00:01:46,879 --> 00:01:48,280 cliff Notes version of it, but I was like, this 40 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:50,280 book sucks. So no, I didn't think it was good literature. 41 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,159 So he was like, see me after class. You failed 42 00:01:53,159 --> 00:01:56,760 this subject or this, you know, assignment. You see me 43 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,200 after class. He's a wow, Master Hagby, maybe college isn't free. 44 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,680 I was like, all right, that's all I needed to say, 45 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,159 last dude, and I dropped out. I didn't even drop 46 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,480 out formally. I just walked out of there and went 47 00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:07,959 to the recruiting office and I was like, I'm gonna 48 00:02:07,959 --> 00:02:09,560 be a CEO. I need to do a bunch of paperwork. 49 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,400 When can I leave? And the guy was like, oh, 50 00:02:13,479 --> 00:02:15,800 and this is like we had just declared war, like 51 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,120 we had were putting troops in Iraq at this time. 52 00:02:19,159 --> 00:02:21,360 I'm like like, I don't know. I looked at my watch. 53 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,400 I was like, I don't know, Like I got to 54 00:02:22,479 --> 00:02:24,520 run home, grab a few things, like three four hours. 55 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 56 00:02:26,039 --> 00:02:27,879 Speaker 3: He was like no, no, no, sir, you got to 57 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,280 understand here. There's this delayed entry program they called it, 58 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,599 and it was like, we can get you in in 59 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,080 like a year. I'm like, are you kidding me? I 60 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,800 was like, we just declared war on a bunch of 61 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,560 people who flew buildings into our like flew planes into 62 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,680 these buildings. And you're gonna tell me the soonest you 63 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,240 can get me into a war zone? Is a training 64 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,000 for a war zone? Is that year? 65 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:50,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? 66 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this is government. I was like, 67 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:55,039 at that time, I determined that all parts of the 68 00:02:55,039 --> 00:02:57,360 government are effectively the DMV. The maybe is just the 69 00:02:57,439 --> 00:03:01,319 DMV with nuclear submarines. So I was able to get 70 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,479 into the military a little bit earlier, but it still 71 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,039 took like five months or something like that. This is insane. 72 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,759 Speaker 2: Do you think that what happened to day? Do you think, 73 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,439 like with Pete. 74 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: Haggs, it's still the same. 75 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: Really, if you walked in today and you're like, I 76 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:15,360 want it would be the exact same deal. 77 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: It's not a hag set thing. It's a processing thing. 78 00:03:19,039 --> 00:03:22,400 They don't have the capacity to process people in fast enough. 79 00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:24,000 You got to go to this place called MEPs where 80 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,960 you stand in line, they give you like two hundred 81 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,280 and seventy five vaccinations and they make you take all 82 00:03:28,319 --> 00:03:29,080 these tests and stuff. 83 00:03:29,439 --> 00:03:32,039 Speaker 4: It literally takes you like that long to even just 84 00:03:32,159 --> 00:03:33,560 get through to get in. 85 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: And yeah, I went and that's yeah, that's before you 86 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:37,120 even raise your right hand. 87 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: Wow that oh my god. 88 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:39,879 Speaker 3: Wow. 89 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So is there any rhyme or reason, like, is 90 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,800 there any what is the reason for that other than 91 00:03:45,879 --> 00:03:48,439 just is it just bureaucracy and red tape or is 92 00:03:48,479 --> 00:03:51,240 there like wow, that's. 93 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: Yes, it's insane. It's insane to me and it's not 94 00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:58,879 a I don't think it's actually like a I mean, look, 95 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:01,199 they could probably dreamline and if they wanted to, but 96 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,159 I don't even think. You know, Pete's actually a good 97 00:04:03,159 --> 00:04:05,680 friend of mine, and you know, this is one of 98 00:04:05,719 --> 00:04:07,240 the things that I should probably talk to him about. 99 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,280 But it's it's it's shocking to me that it's like, oh, 100 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,360 at a time of war or for now, for instance, 101 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,319 like you just lost a bunch of people because you 102 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,959 kicked him out for this vaccine that nobody needed, and 103 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,759 then you have a diminishing I mean, they're bringing people 104 00:04:20,759 --> 00:04:22,720 back at record pace right now. But it'd be really 105 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,160 interesting to say, like, hey, maybe you don't need to 106 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:26,959 take a test about how to screw in a light 107 00:04:26,959 --> 00:04:28,439 bulb to join the military. Yeah. 108 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, So, like, but speaking of Hagsath and then also Trump, 109 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:35,240 what are your what are the favorite things about those two? 110 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:37,279 What do you think that the best things they've what 111 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,399 are the best things they've done so far for the military. 112 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: Oh well, so let's start with Pete. Like, I know 113 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,240 a lot of people had reservations about Pete. Like, I 114 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,519 know Pete, we've hung out outside of work, We've you know, he's. 115 00:04:48,079 --> 00:04:51,519 Speaker 1: Obviously you've been drinking, because that's all he ever does, right. 116 00:04:51,879 --> 00:04:55,879 Speaker 3: I mean, if you listen to the mainstream media, like, yeah, look, 117 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,319 I come from the seal teams, where like the basically 118 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,920 the the weekend functionality of the seal team's as functional alcoholics. 119 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,120 So like, you know, I'm actually surprising enough. I'm not 120 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,360 a drink I mean exactly, so like I'm actually not 121 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:13,959 a big drinker. So I didn't. It was it was 122 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,800 really interesting to me. And you know when I was, 123 00:05:15,879 --> 00:05:17,319 when I was a new guy in the teams, you're 124 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:19,000 always the driver, and I was like that doesn't really 125 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,160 bother me because I don't really drink that much. But 126 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,240 you know, he did, he have a few drinks. Sure, 127 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,079 do they have a problem. Absolutely not. And that's what 128 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,120 these people don't understand. It's like they want to pick 129 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,399 and prod anything anyway. So he just doesn't. He doesn't 130 00:05:33,399 --> 00:05:35,600 give a shit about the political correctness. He's like, can 131 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:39,759 we put bullets and bad guys? That's all. Yes. I 132 00:05:39,879 --> 00:05:42,360 was just out on the ford, the Gerald Ford with 133 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,600 the Secretary of the Navy like two weeks ago, three 134 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:46,839 weeks ago, something like that, and you know, they were 135 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,959 prepping for a deployment where they were going to be 136 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:51,879 potentially engaging Hoothy rebels. They were training for that mission 137 00:05:51,879 --> 00:05:55,079 profile out in the Atlantic Ocean. So we were out 138 00:05:55,079 --> 00:05:57,480 there on the aircraft carrier like talking to these people 139 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,120 and stuff like that, and it was interesting talking to 140 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,720 even the SECONDV to the captain of the ship. They 141 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,040 were like, dude, we get to kill people now that 142 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:07,279 are threatening America. And I'm like, this is great. 143 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's awesome. And what about Trump? What do 144 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,480 you did? So Trump? 145 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,519 Speaker 4: Obviously he is a hand in that because he is 146 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,639 the one who got exit them there. 147 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 148 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, that yet unleash it unleashed, its just like let 149 00:06:20,519 --> 00:06:23,199 it go. And I like I have so you know, 150 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,879 I have family members that are like Republican, but they're 151 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,759 not like I mean like I'm ready to tear my 152 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,319 shirt off and get a Maga tattoo sort of guy. So, 153 00:06:32,199 --> 00:06:34,600 but there's a lot of people, and I've talked about 154 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,680 this on my show all the time. I'm like, look, guys, 155 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,639 you know, just give the guy a chance. People are like, oh, 156 00:06:39,639 --> 00:06:42,399 it's been one hundred days and shit's still all work. Actually, 157 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,160 it's like, you know, it's okay, hold on a second, 158 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,079 asshole I have right, Like, yeah, it has taking us 159 00:06:48,079 --> 00:06:50,319 two hundred and fifty years to get here. We've had 160 00:06:50,399 --> 00:06:55,160 forty four other presidents that screwed this up. We've had globalists, 161 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,240 We've had thirty five trips, maybe given him more than 162 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:02,480 one hundred days one and ten. Like today they're signing 163 00:07:02,519 --> 00:07:03,160 trade right. 164 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:05,879 Speaker 4: Because it's not just the military, it's everything that's screwed 165 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:06,720 up right now. 166 00:07:06,519 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: Everything Elon's like cutting you know, hundreds of billions of dollars, Like, oh, surprise, 167 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,160 we have four point five million government credit cards. But 168 00:07:14,199 --> 00:07:15,879 wait a bit a second, don't you only have two 169 00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:18,839 point five million government employees. Yeah, don't worry about that. Yes, 170 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:19,720 I do worry about it. 171 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, we totally need so back guards. 172 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: After your after you were a seal, I know you 173 00:07:27,639 --> 00:07:29,360 had like there was a run for Congress. 174 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: But how did you make this. 175 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,279 Speaker 1: Leap into what you're doing now, which is I mean 176 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:39,000 obviously you're you're on TV, you're doing commentary that's very 177 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,839 different than boots on the ground seal work. So how 178 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:44,560 did how did you make that transition? 179 00:07:45,839 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: That was actually kind of an interesting one. So I 180 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,920 was in the military, uh, and then right around the top, 181 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,680 my last deployment. In two thousand and nine, we were 182 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,759 court martialed for prisoner abuse. I don't know if you've 183 00:07:56,759 --> 00:08:00,000 seen the movie American Sniper. Yeah, that guy going around 184 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:02,279 drilling holes in people's head with the dwault drill in 185 00:08:02,319 --> 00:08:04,240 the movie. So we caught that guy in real life 186 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:05,240 in two thousand and nine. 187 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: Wow, oh my gosh. 188 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we catch this guy called the Butcher Fallujah. 189 00:08:10,079 --> 00:08:11,600 He was also the one who strung up a couple 190 00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:13,639 of seals from the Blackwater Bridge and lit their bodies 191 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:17,759 on fire early on in the war. Yeah, so we were, 192 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,279 you know, we were pretty amped to go on that up. 193 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,279 We caught this guy. We bring him back, not a 194 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:24,360 scratch on him. We could have shot him and we didn't. 195 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:25,920 He had a gun on target. We did' shoot him. 196 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,040 We should have shot him in the face, but we 197 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,360 were fully authorized to use lethal force and we didn't 198 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,039 do it because we were told at the time, don't 199 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:37,840 do that because we want we want him alive so 200 00:08:37,879 --> 00:08:40,200 we can question him. We were like, got it mission 201 00:08:40,279 --> 00:08:43,360 before our feelings done. Bring him back. Not a scratch 202 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:47,000 on him. He complains we abused him. We didn't like, 203 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,879 here's a guy like some of the outlandish comments were 204 00:08:50,919 --> 00:08:52,799 like this, you know, Carl beat me with a two 205 00:08:52,879 --> 00:08:55,240 by for It's like, dude, you're one hundred and thirty pounds, 206 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,799 I'm two hundred and fifty pounds. Like if I hit 207 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,240 you with a two by four, you'd know it. So yeah, 208 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,399 like all the charges get completely dropped. And at this 209 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,919 point I was enraged. We'd also lost a very good 210 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,679 friend of mine. He was an EOD guy and he 211 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:12,399 was killed because the rules of engagement didn't allow him 212 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:16,240 to execute targets and execute IEDs on the side of 213 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:18,440 the road the way he was trained to, the way 214 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,480 he was trained to, and because he was forced to 215 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,799 change his TTPs, he was killed, and that pissed me off. 216 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,639 So I you know, obviously, when you're active duty, you're 217 00:09:29,879 --> 00:09:32,240 somewhat restrained in what you can say about your chain 218 00:09:32,279 --> 00:09:34,279 of command, but it doesn't take away your first memor, right, 219 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,120 So I decided to start writing this down in a 220 00:09:36,159 --> 00:09:39,960 book and all my grievances, and my grievances expanded beyond 221 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,679 just military but also societal grievances. So it's my first 222 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,840 book was called Battle on the Home Front of Britain four, 223 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,360 which is more than I've actually read in my life. 224 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:54,320 So I started writing this down, and during the court 225 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,720 martial in twenty ten, they flew us all back to Iraq. 226 00:09:56,759 --> 00:09:59,320 We had to stand trial. It ruined our careers so 227 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:01,039 that a lot of people really pissed off about it. 228 00:10:01,039 --> 00:10:03,080 A bunch of people got out of the military after this, 229 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,639 including myself, and I was like, you know what, I'm 230 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:08,559 going to publish this book. And I decided to publish 231 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,919 it on active duty, and I went through the whole 232 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:16,559 gambit of how to get this done legally. Finally, I 233 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,519 was talking to the PAO, to admirals and lawyers, and 234 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,360 I checked every single box, and the military didn't want 235 00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:25,240 me to publish it because it was critical of Obama, 236 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:26,799 who was the commander in chief at the time. I said, 237 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,240 but I'm still allowed to do that, not any personality, 238 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,000 not in a professional capacity. But I can do it 239 00:10:33,039 --> 00:10:34,960 in a personal capacity. It says right there in the 240 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,840 document that you sent me. So I get that thing 241 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,000 all said and done. Finally, my lawyer was like, dude, 242 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,360 you guys have been dragging your feet on this. You 243 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,080 have thirty days by your own rules. It's been over 244 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,799 a year, Like we're just going to publish this like 245 00:10:45,919 --> 00:10:49,159 you pounce hamp and so we did, and the military 246 00:10:49,159 --> 00:10:51,519 went back and forth. We ended up agreeing that I 247 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:54,559 would get out of the military three months before my 248 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,200 contract was up anyway, and I would publish this book 249 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,559 and that would be that. And I said, okay, cool, 250 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,480 get my honorable discharge, get out. They after I got 251 00:11:02,519 --> 00:11:04,919 my honorable discharge, they tried to take it away from 252 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,600 me after I was out of the military, which is illegal, 253 00:11:07,799 --> 00:11:11,639 like probaly illegal, and because in order to give somebody 254 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,879 something other than honorable discharge you need to have an 255 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,879 administrative separation board or a court martial. I didn't have 256 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,840 either of those. They wouldn't give me either of those 257 00:11:18,879 --> 00:11:21,080 because then you have this thing called like, you know, evidence, 258 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,519 and it would have shown that they screwed up a 259 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:25,879 lot of things. Right, So I went after the DoD 260 00:11:26,039 --> 00:11:29,039 and in a five to zero military appellate court decision 261 00:11:29,159 --> 00:11:31,440 in my favor, said no, no, no, you guys cannot do that. 262 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:33,840 You have to like, he still has an honorable discharge. 263 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,559 You never took it away. It was never authorized. So 264 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,799 during that battle, I ended up getting into media, and 265 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:42,840 you know, because. 266 00:11:42,519 --> 00:11:45,279 Speaker 1: You were getting interviews to talk about that, like how 267 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:45,840 did that happen? 268 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:49,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, that and political stuff like ended up going on 269 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,000 just basically every network and people were people were interested 270 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,120 in the story. I mean the military really and the 271 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,759 military vaccination thing is like the perfect example of the 272 00:11:57,759 --> 00:12:00,879 same shit that I went through. They they handle things 273 00:12:00,919 --> 00:12:03,759 so badly, and there's like, you can't do that, why well, 274 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:07,279 because well why you know, like it's it says I can, well, 275 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:09,759 we don't want you to. And they do this stuff 276 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:12,279 all the time, which is exactly my problem. But Pete 277 00:12:12,279 --> 00:12:14,840 has actually eliminated a lot of that. Top has eliminated 278 00:12:14,879 --> 00:12:16,720 a lot of that. It's like, hey, you want to 279 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,240 be trans maybe the military is not the place for you. 280 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,279 Like you want to cut off or so on or 281 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,600 tuck back whatever you want, Fine, just don't do it 282 00:12:23,639 --> 00:12:24,799 on an aircraft carrier. Yeah. 283 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the wokeness, Like we see a bunch 284 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,120 of you know, we will make fun of on our 285 00:12:29,159 --> 00:12:30,840 show a lot of the times, like these guys that 286 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,240 have got there and they're painting their nails and they're like, 287 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,120 I'm in the army, look at me paint my nails 288 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,159 or I'm doing this and we're like, what the hell's 289 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:38,559 going on? 290 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: And so I mean, have you experienced do you. 291 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: Need something to do? 292 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: We got some You're so right, this is the day. 293 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,919 Speaker 4: We said that all the time, and so did you 294 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,320 experience a lot of that, like the wokeness or would 295 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,279 you were you just not because you're steal So I mean, 296 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,159 I would imagine those guys. You don't see a lot 297 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,039 of wokeness in the area that you were in, but 298 00:12:56,639 --> 00:12:58,240 maybe you did, did you not? 299 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,279 Speaker 3: Well, I was at the dawn of so I was 300 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,519 actually in when they repealed don't ask, don't tell, And 301 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,559 we were all looking around and we were like like 302 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:08,080 I don't really give a shit, like if you want 303 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,039 to be right, you know, but so like we actually 304 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,840 it's funny story. I had a good buddy of mine 305 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:14,679 who was in the military with us, and we all 306 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,440 knew he was gay, but he didn't say anything and 307 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:18,840 didn't even after donats, don't tell was repealed, he still 308 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:23,159 didn't say anything. He just did his thing. Good seal done. Yeah, 309 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,639 And so you know, after he gets out of the military, 310 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,720 like five years later, like we were all getting together. 311 00:13:29,759 --> 00:13:32,039 We're actually on a hunting trip and he was like, guys, 312 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,200 I like really gotta like you know, we had a 313 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,720 couple of beers. He's like, I'm really going to tell 314 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,279 you guys something blah blah blah blah blah, and he's like, 315 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,960 I'm gay. We were like, yeah, we knew, dude. 316 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:46,799 Speaker 2: Yeah he was sties like that. That's totally different. Don't 317 00:13:46,799 --> 00:13:47,039 you think? 318 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: It's totally different than like painting your nails in a 319 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,639 video though, I mean, that's different, you know what I mean, 320 00:13:51,639 --> 00:13:54,159 You're running around like in a clinger outfit. 321 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 3: You know, you know, the irony of this whole thing 322 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,159 is like the military standards don't even let women to 323 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,080 have painted things nails other than earth tone in the military, 324 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:07,200 and you've got dudes like deployed their fingernails. It's like 325 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,679 great going, you know, go be an accountant or working step. Yes. 326 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,799 Speaker 1: Yes, were you surprised by like the Supreme Court's recent 327 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,440 you know, allowing Trump to go forward with banning trans 328 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,600 people in the military, because we talked about it a 329 00:14:21,639 --> 00:14:23,159 little bit on our show and it was a surprise 330 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,480 only because it seems like the reverse of what is simplest. 331 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:29,440 It seems like you they would they would put a 332 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,639 hold on the ban until they actually have an official 333 00:14:33,759 --> 00:14:36,480 vote on it, but instead they were like we're just 334 00:14:36,519 --> 00:14:39,279 gonna let him ban them and then we're gonna work 335 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,039 it out. So they're going to like essentially make people 336 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,399 get out and then potentially bring them back in depending 337 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:46,919 on how they rule. 338 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,759 Speaker 2: It was just such a weird, convoluted thing. 339 00:14:50,279 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: Kind of like the COVID vaccine. Yeah, I'm not you 340 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,919 know what, Like I I've had my beef with the 341 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,639 Supreme Court recently on a lot of things. But I 342 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:03,879 think that that is that is a strong rule and 343 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,120 the Court should not be anywhere near the military. The 344 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,279 military is a dictatorship. It is not a democracy. It 345 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,799 is not you know, like if you don't want to 346 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,799 do that, go somewhere else. Like you do have rights. 347 00:15:14,799 --> 00:15:16,480 But here's the problem with the trans thing. And I 348 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:18,919 did an interview with the BBC on this, and the 349 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,679 interviewer was more interested in trying to convince me that 350 00:15:21,679 --> 00:15:24,120 that trans people should Oh there are greatest straight No 351 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:29,080 they're not. It's like if you if I'm if I'm 352 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,639 up for instance, like if I'm a male and I 353 00:15:30,679 --> 00:15:32,919 take steroids in the military, I get kicked out. It's 354 00:15:32,919 --> 00:15:36,960 a bamed substance. So why yeah, so why is it 355 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,600 authorized for a female that's claiming to be a male 356 00:15:40,679 --> 00:15:42,840 and wants to be treated like a male and says 357 00:15:42,639 --> 00:15:46,960 she's a male to take steroids that a male can't 358 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,039 take to be a male. And I'm like, the irony 359 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,440 here is like on this person, but also it's totally insane, 360 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,200 and it's like, if I'm over in a combat zone, like, 361 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,240 I don't care if you're black, white, blue, green, male, 362 00:16:00,279 --> 00:16:03,159 feel or whatever. I don't care. If you can carry 363 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,960 my ass out of a combat zone, great. If you 364 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,039 can shoot the other guy before he shoots us, fabulous. 365 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,720 The problem is is being trands takes a significant amount 366 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,559 of energy, resources, attention. You have to be on hormone therapy, 367 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,200 you have to all these things like if you're if 368 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,919 you have you know, if you're on a you know, 369 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:25,440 well butrin or Riddlin or adderall. You can't do that 370 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:29,399 in the military because it's a it's another instability. And 371 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,159 you were going to say that people who don't know 372 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,080 what gender they are, You're going to give them a 373 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:35,600 gun and put them on the front lines in combat 374 00:16:35,639 --> 00:16:38,360 and make them do things that may not be corresponding. 375 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,879 They may not be able to get their hormone therapy. 376 00:16:39,879 --> 00:16:40,519 Are you kidding me? 377 00:16:40,679 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a great point. It really is. 378 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 4: That's just high freaking maintenance is what it is right there. 379 00:16:46,679 --> 00:16:49,960 I mean, that's belittling what the situation is, I think, 380 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,919 But to me, it's just those are some high maintenance people. Okay, 381 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,120 So you went really viral with the taco eating, you know, 382 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,039 when people were like, hey, you can have Mexican food 383 00:16:59,039 --> 00:17:00,879 if you voted for Trump, and then you went viral 384 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:04,480 because you were like, f you. I'm paraphrasing, of course, 385 00:17:04,519 --> 00:17:05,920 but I'm gonna go ahead and eat tacos. You know 386 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,640 what I am too, because I live in Texas and 387 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,720 I eat tacos all the time, and I voted for Trump. 388 00:17:09,759 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: So you know, you went viral for that. 389 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,279 Speaker 4: And because the outrage mob will come after you and 390 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:16,000 they get really mad about this kind of stuff and 391 00:17:16,039 --> 00:17:18,640 they try to to cancel you and they get really 392 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,039 upset with you. And how do you deal with those 393 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,799 kind of people? I mean, like, do you lean into 394 00:17:22,799 --> 00:17:23,359 that stuff? 395 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 3: Do you? 396 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:27,519 Speaker 4: Obviously you went viral for it, which is fantastic, but 397 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,200 what is what is your take on this whole outrage 398 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,079 culture that we're living in now? 399 00:17:33,599 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: Cry harder. I have zero patients for this, Like I mean, like, look, 400 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,200 I'm literally wearing a shirt that says toxic mass you. 401 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: I love it, fantastic. 402 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,079 Speaker 3: I take a train every day into Manhattan and I 403 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,440 wear my make America Great Again hat, I wear Ultra 404 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:51,119 Maga shirts. I wear all kinds of things that make 405 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,160 me happy and I don't really care if somebody's because 406 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:54,759 it's my freedom. 407 00:17:55,039 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: Do you get looks to people freak out? How does 408 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:57,240 that work? 409 00:17:57,279 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you're pretty your guy that I would imagine 410 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,680 people don't really want to mess with if they see 411 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,079 you wearing that kind of stuff. 412 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: But do they try to mess with you if you're 413 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:06,480 wearing that struck? 414 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 3: I've you know, it's interesting. No, everybody's got something to 415 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,319 say on Twitter, And you know, there was a while 416 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,920 back I got a bunch of I did some monologue 417 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,640 on my show about something, and I got like a 418 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,640 bunch of death threats, and I said, come find me. 419 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:24,599 I love it. Yeah, you know where I work, you know. 420 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,440 And they put up the address of Newsmax on a 421 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,359 lot of these tweets that were going viral, and I 422 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,799 was like, Okay, I walk out this building at six 423 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,640 oh five, I'll see you there. Yeah. Now, one person 424 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,400 showed up actually to have their book signed. Yea, it was. 425 00:18:38,759 --> 00:18:40,799 This is this is what we're up against here. It's 426 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:44,279 like these purple head baristas or whatever they do. I 427 00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:46,039 don't know what they do all day. They have there's 428 00:18:46,039 --> 00:18:48,440 a building across the street like right behind me. Actually 429 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,720 they have all these weird like Antifa and Hamas protests 430 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:57,000 and all this stuff out there every day. And every 431 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:58,880 day it's like right on my way to the train, 432 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,400 I'm like, I'm not going to put up with this stuff. 433 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,240 And i will walk through there and they just part 434 00:19:04,279 --> 00:19:06,359 like the red seas, not screaming at me. But I'm 435 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,119 like I'll turn around, like do something for the love 436 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,319 of God, and they won't do that. And here's the 437 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,359 thing is like I don't go looking for a fight, 438 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,559 but I'm certainly not going to be pushed around by 439 00:19:16,599 --> 00:19:18,720 these people. And that's the problem is we have become 440 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,759 a society where masculinity is They've just tried to neuter everybody. 441 00:19:23,079 --> 00:19:25,680 And I'm like, I am not looking for a fight, 442 00:19:25,759 --> 00:19:28,960 and I'm the first person to like, you know, seek peace, 443 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,640 but if you seek violence, it is going to be 444 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,079 the worst day of your life. Yeah. 445 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: I think the culture shifting too, like our side, we're 446 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,359 starting to We've always been very outspoken about our conservatism, 447 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,559 but I think that a lot of people on our side. Yeah, 448 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:43,920 I think that a lot of people on our side 449 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,279 have been afraid for the past several years. They've been 450 00:19:46,279 --> 00:19:48,440 afraid to say I'm conservative. We get emails from people 451 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:48,759 all the time. 452 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:50,319 Speaker 2: They're like, I agree with everything you say, but I'm 453 00:19:50,319 --> 00:19:51,319 just not going to say it out loud. 454 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 4: We're like, why, oh my gosh, so people yeah, yeah, 455 00:19:55,279 --> 00:19:57,720 they're starting to be more brazen and they're conservative because 456 00:19:57,759 --> 00:20:00,160 people like you are starting to speak everybody's starting to 457 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,839 speak out more and more, and it's becoming cool now 458 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:04,759 to be conservative, and we weren't cool before. 459 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: You know, well, that's why, Like, you know, I think 460 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,160 young people like in the eighteen to twenty two demo, 461 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,640 it's Republican by like a factor like ten point swing 462 00:20:13,839 --> 00:20:17,279 Republican because it's again, it's cool again. And the other 463 00:20:17,319 --> 00:20:19,640 thing too, is like you know, all these people like, oh, 464 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,359 I don't want to speak up, or I don't want 465 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,920 to do this, I don't want to make waves. It's 466 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,200 like why, right, The problem today is the battles. You 467 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,680 don't pick, you lose. Yes, I remember during COVID, like, 468 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,920 I have three kids and they were in school and 469 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,480 well two of them were and one of them was 470 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:39,319 just being born during COVID, but you know, they were 471 00:20:39,319 --> 00:20:41,119 doing the masks and they were coming home and they 472 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,960 were just miserable, like communication was being cut off because 473 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,440 they were covering faces. They had these stupid plastic None 474 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,920 of this stuff mattered. There was not a single data point. 475 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,680 So I was going to and at the time, I 476 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,799 was actually even on the town council Dreenwich, and I 477 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:55,720 remember just beating the podium up there and I was 478 00:20:55,759 --> 00:20:59,119 just like, you people have no idea what you're talking about, 479 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,359 your ever thing. So I'm sending my kids to school 480 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,839 with no mask, and dare you to try to put 481 00:21:05,839 --> 00:21:08,200 one on? And it became this whole thing. But people 482 00:21:08,279 --> 00:21:11,079 started standing up and start saying like we're not gonna 483 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,440 you know, we're not going to put up with this. 484 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,960 And the problem is is, like you know, it's the 485 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:18,599 Edmund Burke theory. All evil needs to prevail is for 486 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,720 good men to do nothing, yes, And too many people 487 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,720 are worried about being comfortable, and it's this power of appeasement. 488 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:27,799 It's like, well, you can appease somebody to the end 489 00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:30,279 of the day and ultimately ends with you losing everything. 490 00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: You're so right, Yes, you're so right. They have to 491 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:33,480 say something. 492 00:21:33,519 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 4: And I think a lot of young men especially are 493 00:21:36,039 --> 00:21:37,960 starting to look at guys like you and they're like, 494 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,000 you know what, I'm sick of being called toxic. 495 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,599 Speaker 2: I'm tired of it. And so a lot we're seeing 496 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,319 a big shift. 497 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: I'm not sick of it. I don't care like call 498 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,920 me talk about thank you, But I mean. 499 00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:49,079 Speaker 4: I think I think what I'm trying to say is 500 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:52,960 that they're they they feel like they do obviously contribute 501 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,480 to society, like society has said to them over the past, 502 00:21:55,519 --> 00:21:58,200 however many years, you are toxic, and they're like, that's bullshit. 503 00:21:58,279 --> 00:21:58,599 Speaker 2: I'm not. 504 00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 4: I'm awesome, and I'm gonna and I'm going to show 505 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,839 you how awesome I am. And so a lot of 506 00:22:02,839 --> 00:22:05,400 these young guys are out there and they are conservative 507 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,319 now and they're proud about it, and I love it. 508 00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:10,519 There's like a resurgence of the man and that. 509 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,319 Speaker 2: Is where else are they supposed to go? 510 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Z is gen Z starting to be 511 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,880 more conservative. I love that that is really because I 512 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,799 have a young daughter. And it's promising for me because 513 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:23,240 I'm like, I love that she has more conservative young 514 00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:26,119 men in her realm, and that is a wonderful thing. 515 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: That's That's the other thing too, It's like we've been 516 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,519 conditioned to not have confrontation. Yes, I tell my daughter 517 00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:37,519 all the time, she's twelve years old, and I'm like, 518 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:41,160 have the discussion. Like I will have a debate with 519 00:22:41,279 --> 00:22:44,240 anybody on any topic at any time, for any reason. 520 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,200 I'll have that debate. You want to be civil, I 521 00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:48,880 encourage that. Let's have the discussion and let's let the 522 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,839 best ideas prevail. Yes, you want to do it not civilly. 523 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,480 I'm also fine with that, but let's try to do 524 00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:56,359 it civilly first. Yes, And that's what people are afraid of, 525 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,720 this confrontation. I'm like, no, if you stand up for 526 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,119 the ideas that you like, if you just the Ron 527 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,240 Swanson concept, It's like, why did you put your name 528 00:23:05,279 --> 00:23:07,440 on that letter that you nailed to the door of 529 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,559 the vegan shop, you know, calling you know, veganism a 530 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,880 product of a weak mind and people, And I say, like, 531 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,720 he put his name on it because he believes it, 532 00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:18,319 Like we have to believe in what we say and 533 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,160 do now otherwise, you know, why are we backing. 534 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:22,839 Speaker 2: Down to these exactly? 535 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to know your thoughts on this 536 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,640 proposed And I'm sorry if I glitched out earlier. I 537 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,079 know that sometimes I can just random okay, but what 538 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,240 are your thoughts on this whole potential military parade that 539 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,440 that Trump is throwing out to celebrate like the Army's birthday, 540 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:44,920 his birthday, because there's there's some criticism obviously, because there's 541 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,920 gonna be criticism, but no matter what he does about 542 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,079 anything in the world ever, But what is your thoughts 543 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,240 about celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth birthday of the military. 544 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,559 Speaker 2: Is it is it. 545 00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:56,759 Speaker 1: A you know, spending that we don't need to do. 546 00:23:57,079 --> 00:23:58,079 Speaker 2: Is it the right thing to do. 547 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: Because we were like, I can get down with this, 548 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,519 but I also don't want it to look like North Korea, 549 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,319 Like I don't want rockets going down the street. 550 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,839 Speaker 2: I don't know what I mean. I think rockets would 551 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:08,400 be kind of cool. 552 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: I actually think that makes me a little squidgy. 553 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 3: You're talking to the guy who thinks, you know, average 554 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,359 citizens should be able to own a rocket launch. 555 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,599 Speaker 2: I take a I love to have one in my house. 556 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 3: But I look, I just want I just want the 557 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,599 same weapons that we left behind for the Taliban. 558 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,279 Speaker 2: Right, so right there with you? 559 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so no, look, I mean, look, would I do it? No, 560 00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:34,079 But there are a lot of countries that are going 561 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,279 to see this that speak that language. I ran North Korea, China. 562 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,599 I mean, that's what they do. It's a show of force. 563 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,079 It's a you know, it's a celebration. It's also like, 564 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,000 you know, tear your shirt off, beat your chest, be 565 00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:48,680 like you're we're back baby, and we've got all these missiles. 566 00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:50,079 Check it out, don't f with us. 567 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: I love it. 568 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 569 00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:56,079 Speaker 1: I love the idea of celebrating the military always. I 570 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,920 mean that I love, But I just I do worry 571 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,640 about the optics of it looking like a very Kim 572 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,400 Jong un like look at all my giant rocket ships 573 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:04,759 going by. 574 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: I think it's so tru though. 575 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,079 Speaker 4: It's gonna have a lot of gold, going to have 576 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,920 like tigers and like dancing girls, and it's gonna be 577 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,359 honest and. 578 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,759 Speaker 3: Gold and eagles. 579 00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:15,759 Speaker 1: That's what I want to see, right. 580 00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be like a 581 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,160 Donald Trump production. I'm gonna love every bit of it. 582 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,119 It's gonna be fantastic. 583 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I mean that's that's actually what I want, 584 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,079 you know, I do want to take over just that 585 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,440 corner of Canada around Vancouver, so we have all those 586 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,960 bald egos O. Yes, totally. Yes. 587 00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:37,279 Speaker 1: We want to be respectful of your time, and we're 588 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:39,200 getting close to the end, so we want to make 589 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,839 sure that our audience here is how they can find you, 590 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,880 where they can get your books, where they can watch 591 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:44,960 you on a daily basis. 592 00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: All the books are on Amazon. Battle on the Home Front, 593 00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:52,559 Enemies Foreign and Domestic, Crisis of Culture, and Profiles and Freedom. 594 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,559 Wow was the last one. We do have a new 595 00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:56,200 one coming out, but I'm not going to spoil the 596 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,359 title yet. It's actually right up the alley of this podcast, 597 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,079 so yeah, that'll probably be out. I want to say 598 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,359 September fall time frame, be there for Christmas. 599 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,079 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. 600 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,519 Speaker 3: Yeah. And my English teacher who failed me is rolling 601 00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:14,599 in his grave right now. That books. I love it. 602 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,519 So yeah. Twitter at Carl Higbee at five o'clock on 603 00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:22,960 Newsmax Easter and Eastern time, and we just I'm here 604 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,440 to talk shit. 605 00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:26,559 Speaker 4: Awesome it's been enjoying Carl, thank you, yes, thank you, 606 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:27,480 thank you.