WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:09.439 on the iHeartRadio app. Death taxes in January take six 4 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:12.359 months to complete. Those are the only true things I 5 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:13.359 can say in this life. 6 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:15.919 My wife said that last night, that January seems to 7 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:19.640 be taking forever. It always does every year. The good 8 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:22.559 news is, after today, you don't have to worry about 9 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:23.120 it anymore. 10 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:26.359 Police boats have returned to the river part of the 11 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:29.879 recovery and investigation after that crash killed sixty seven people. 12 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:32.719 How are you going to just gloss over the fact 13 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:34.000 that you feel better today. 14 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:36.600 I do feel better today. I also feel like that's 15 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:38.200 wildly insignificant. 16 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:42.439 Well, yeah, there's big stories. But people were worried about you. 17 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:46.719 They were, yeah, oh, it's a root canal. 18 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:47.240 You know. 19 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:50.000 It was the worst pain I've ever felt. It was awful. 20 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:51.920 I thought I could tough it out. I thought I 21 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:54.039 could just motrin my way through a couple of weeks. 22 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:56.920 Until I got in there. I could not even put 23 00:00:56.960 --> 00:00:59.000 some of that goo on your I put the goose, 24 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:01.560 which by the way, is extremely low grade because I 25 00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:04.920 got the actual brand name origel from the CVS. That 26 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:08.040 stuff is legit. That's like the dentist office stuff. The 27 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:11.159 stuff we have here is like poor Man's origel made 28 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.319 you feel like last about six minutes. 29 00:01:13.120 --> 00:01:16.680 Like like Bristol Palin, that's a weird story. Sorry, that's 30 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:19.879 a deep cut. Why she has facial paralysis for some 31 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:21.359 reason and she can't figure out why? 32 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:23.640 And why did that story remind you of that? 33 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:26.000 Because you talked about it. Numbed up that side of 34 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:28.359 your face. Pretty good, the good stuff, the. 35 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:30.879 Good stuff did, yeah, but it didn't show paralysis. 36 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:35.120 Actually probably felt like a little bit right, No, No, 37 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:37.079 never mind, I didn't know she had paralysis. 38 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:37.680 That's awful. 39 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:42.319 It's probably a viral thing. It maybe uh is it 40 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:45.599 long term bar syndrome? Oh, could be. I don't know. 41 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:48.359 I didn't know that you got the Bristol Palin newsletter. 42 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:50.159 I didn't know that she was in my feed, but 43 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:53.239 apparently I saw it on Twitter yesterday that she's having 44 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:58.200 she's still her struggles, was Scilla, No, that's Sarah Ah. 45 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:00.359 Bristol is the kid, right? Yeah? 46 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.280 No, I know she's the kid. But didn't she also 47 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:03.680 live with her mother and Wasscilla. 48 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:06.200 I don't know if she that's a good question. I 49 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:08.560 don't know where she is location wise, she's on Twitter. 50 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:08.960 I know that. 51 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:11.520 Yeah, did you really think that I was confused that 52 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:18.120 Bristol Palin was the one that ran for vice president. Anyway, 53 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:19.719 it's a crisis. 54 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:21.120 Is assume that I was that dumb. 55 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:23.599 Yeah, I mean, I know I've been gone a day, 56 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:28.199 but I'm not that dumb. Anyway, Yeah, it was great. 57 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.800 They I did get prescribed the opioids for the first 58 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:32.560 time in my life. 59 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:37.199 You ask the painkillers. I haven't been prescribed painkillers for 60 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:38.199 a long I did. 61 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:40.400 Say that the pain was much worse than I remembered 62 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:42.479 the last time I needed a root canal. I mean 63 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:45.000 I would have remembered. And my brother was making a joke, 64 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:46.919 but I think there's kind of truth to it. He's like, well, 65 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:49.680 this is dry january, serves you, right, you won't even 66 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:53.479 felt this if you were doing dry January. I'm like, probably, 67 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:55.840 like I probably would have had a few glasses of 68 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:58.919 wine and been like, I can handle this. I grunted out, 69 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:01.759 but I mean, hey, I don't remember the pain being 70 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:03.919 that bad. But anyway, I was with the doctor and 71 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:05.680 they said, we're going to prescribe you the six hundred 72 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:08.800 milligrams motron, which is the usual thing, which is great, 73 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:12.360 works for me just fine, even in this situation where 74 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.479 I had felt pain. It worked as soon as I 75 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:16.479 took the first one. It worked so much better than 76 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:20.360 just the couple of motron I was taking. But they 77 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:24.800 did prescribe the oxy codone, I guess in case the 78 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:28.919 hydro codone. Hydro codone codone. I knew it was bad. 79 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:31.639 I mean, I mean good for some people who can 80 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:34.240 handle it. Was there somebody like me? No? Boy? 81 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:34.479 Now? 82 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:36.840 So I took it. I got the re or I 83 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.039 got the prescription, and I didn't know that they had 84 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:41.319 prescribed that when I went to the pharmacy to pick 85 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:43.719 it up and I get it, and I'm like, what's this? Okay, 86 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:45.680 I immediately take it and I put it in my 87 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:46.960 husband's bathroom immediately. 88 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:49.159 You didn't take it. 89 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:52.080 I was like, I don't need to end up in 90 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:53.479 a gutter with a heroin addiction. 91 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:56.879 They bother to ask you they did not preferred or 92 00:03:56.919 --> 00:03:58.520 wanted or maybe is there an issue. 93 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:00.879 No, it did not come up. It did not come 94 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:02.800 up because I would have said no, thank you. 95 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:05.879 Yeah. Yeah, that's a strang. 96 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:12.360 There is also the human I think reflex of well 97 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:14.439 maybe just in case, I should have it, you know 98 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:16.639 what I mean. And that's not the me ending up 99 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:19.639 in a gutter on Heroin side of me. That's the 100 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:24.079 hoarder in me. I think, like Jacob was like, oh yeah, 101 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:26.040 you should have that. I mean, you don't ever know 102 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:27.800 when you're going to be stuck somewhere in the middle 103 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:30.639 of nowhere and need it. My husband's the same way. 104 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:34.079 I mean, he hoards medications from like years ago. I 105 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:36.879 think everyone kind of does that, they hoard medications. 106 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:40.800 No, I don't do that. I mean I might listen 107 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:43.399 and I have a pretty strong hoarding tendency. 108 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:45.839 That it's not like something No, but you've never been 109 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:46.839 prescribed anything. 110 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:49.720 It's like I said, it's been a long time, right. 111 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.759 But I think that some people, especially as you get older, 112 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:54.920 you want to make sure you have you know, whether 113 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:57.720 it's like a steroid pack or antibiotics, so you want 114 00:04:57.759 --> 00:04:59.720 to make sure you have something in case something comes 115 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:03.000 up and you can't get to the doctor right away. Okay, 116 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:06.879 I don't know a Jacob, you're a hoarder. Tell me 117 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:10.920 you're you're a young hord You're not even thirty yet. No, 118 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:12.879 so explain the situation. 119 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:14.639 So I have some sweet muscle relaxers. 120 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:17.720 They're great, but like, what's the mentality behind that? 121 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:19.160 You just keep them when you need them for a 122 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:23.240 rainy day. Never know, I just spilled water all over 123 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:26.120 the place. If you need a muscle relaxer, though, oh man, 124 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:28.079 it's a good one. Do you know what it's called? 125 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:28.800 But it doesn't matter. 126 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:30.160 I don't want to know. I don't know what it's called. 127 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:30.680 I don't know. 128 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:34.680 I took it last year when I injured my back. Yeah, 129 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:37.600 huh from lifting, and it was great. It happened to 130 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:38.040 be lifting. 131 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:39.959 It happened your back. 132 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:41.879 Yeah, I don't know if you saw the plates. He 133 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:46.040 was thrown around. But what exercise were you doing? The squats? 134 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.199 Were you lifting Adam in the air as you did them? 135 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:50.319 Yeah? He was on my back. 136 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:53.839 He was sitting on the bar, so I threw him 137 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:55.720 on there. All right, Well, we're glad you're back. 138 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:58.639 Thank you. I listened to the show yesterday. I must 139 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:05.000 say I like that show, SAMs me. It's nice. It's 140 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:08.600 it's more relaxed, calm. It's calm. 141 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:12.160 I can do a squirrel story without losing my mind. 142 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:14.480 Claiming that they're all the devil's spawn. 143 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:16.360 I didn't hear that because you had to go to 144 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:18.920 the press conference. Did and then I got home and 145 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:21.360 I didn't. I didn't turn it on when I got home. 146 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:23.439 Well, maybe I don't worry. 147 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:27.560 I'll get the podcast, all right. If you miss any 148 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:30.000 of the show, you can get the podcast. Just subscribe 149 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:34.000 to it on the iHeart app. Somebody wrote smash that 150 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.920 follow button on the iHeart app doesn't smash me and 151 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:39.240 have sex with I don't want you to have sex 152 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:40.720 with your phone. 153 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:43.839 I don't. I don't know who wrote that or is 154 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:46.480 that old? Somebody under the age of It's old. 155 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:52.959 Okay, so now smash is back to just like tapping aggressively. Yeah, 156 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:56.920 got it? Don't you smash to talk about sex today? 157 00:06:56.920 --> 00:06:59.000 Gary? Last night, did you watch any of the fire 158 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:00.519 Aid concert? No, it was. 159 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:04.199 It was had some incredible moments and some ones that 160 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:08.720 were pretty cringe, But I did catch a good portion 161 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:09.759 of it. 162 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:11.560 It went on for five and a half hours. 163 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:13.319 Where's the cringe? 164 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:17.079 Stevie Nicks actually, for me, was kind of cringe by 165 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:18.279 Katie Perry. 166 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:19.920 It's your mouth because Stevie's my favorite. 167 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:21.879 Well, I'm not saying She's not a legendary. 168 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:27.279 It's just it's it's hard to watch our icons age 169 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:32.040 as much and as Rod Stewart was amazing as much 170 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:33.120 as Okay, so men. 171 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:36.040 Can age, but women can't. Yeah, Amy and I heard 172 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:37.240 the same fing thing. 173 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:39.040 We'll talk about that a little bit later, but we're 174 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:41.199 going to start in just a couple of minutes. The 175 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:43.759 latest on what we know about this DC plane crash, 176 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:48.160 and one specific explanation that I think is the best 177 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:52.000 as to how something like this could possibly have happened. 178 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:56.560 The FAA has indefinitely closed a routes near Reagan National 179 00:07:56.720 --> 00:08:00.600 to most helicopter traffic after that collision. And that was 180 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:05.000 one of my first reactions to this so well, the 181 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:07.240 first one was, how does a communication era like this 182 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:10.560 happen in twenty twenty four. This is something that shouldn't 183 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:14.120 have happened in nineteen fifty four, let alone in twenty 184 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:16.800 twenty four. There's no excuse for that kind of a thing. 185 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.639 I understand that the air traffic control system has been 186 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:24.600 understaffed for a long time and over worked and antiquated, 187 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:29.519 and the machinery, the technology, it's all antiquated. It is 188 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:33.120 the best word and it's kind of one of those 189 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:35.639 things where we think we're it's this ignorance right where 190 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:37.799 we think we're the best at everything. We're America, We're 191 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:39.840 the best at everything. We're the best at AI. You 192 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:42.480 can't have our computer chips are too fancy for you China. 193 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:44.480 China's like, okay, well whatever, We're going to do our 194 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:46.759 own thing and do just as well as you did 195 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:49.360 with cheap computer chips. Same thing with the air traffic 196 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:51.600 controller system. If we're just resting on, oh, we're just 197 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:54.159 the best. We're the best at everything, not realizing the 198 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.080 dilapidation of several different things in this country. I mean, 199 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:59.879 you look at infrastructure, go back to nineteen fifty four, 200 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:02.159 go back to the formation of the highways, and we 201 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:05.320 were the best at everything, space travel, what have you. 202 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:10.159 Right now we look around, we're not it's a reckoning 203 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:14.200 to realize that we have let things fall through the cracks. Anyway, 204 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:16.960 that was one of the thoughts. The other thought was 205 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.159 what is the military doing. If you've flown in or 206 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:23.720 out of Reagan in a lot of people have most 207 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:29.120 people listening probably have you've noticed before the military aircraft 208 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:33.360 co mingling with the commercial aircraft and probably had the 209 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:35.720 thought of, eh, is that a good idea? What do 210 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:39.440 I know? I'm just Shannon from LA But isn't that 211 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:42.240 a good idea for those black Hawk helicopters be flying 212 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:46.799 in cahoots with the jetliners. So that's a question that 213 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:49.120 just seems like a common sense question. And then the 214 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:53.720 third reaction was such discussed over the race to politicize 215 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:57.559 this thing on both sides. Trump coming out right away 216 00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:00.919 and saying this was a DEI problem. It may very 217 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:04.240 well have been, but we have no idea that that is. 218 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:08.799 It seemed like injecting a hot topic nationally into a 219 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:12.039 tragedy when the bodies had even been found yet. And 220 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:16.000 then the left's reaction to crucify him for doing that. 221 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:18.159 It was all just so disgusting. 222 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:23.120 The the whole Dei conversation yesterday made me think, as 223 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:26.759 I was reading more about it last night, what if 224 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:32.039 what if the Biden administration had come out and said 225 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:36.159 that this was a result of toxic masculinity, where the 226 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:40.120 hot dog black Hawk pilot was fast and loose with 227 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:43.879 the regulations because he was toxic masculinity. What I mean, 228 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:49.799 in the event that the pilots of the American Eagle 229 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:54.320 flight and the pilot or pilots of the Blackhawk helicopter 230 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:57.559 both happened to be absolute top of their game and 231 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:01.000 hired therefore put in those positions because they were top 232 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:03.279 of their class and had nothing to do with diversity, 233 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:07.159 equity inclusion hiring. Then that makes the President look foolish 234 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:09.399 for even bringing that up. Here's now, I agree with 235 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:13.000 him that Pete Hegseth said this the Secretary of Defense, 236 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:19.720 He said, our Defense Department is a merit based Amen, 237 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:22.679 I heard this organization. Yeah, and that's exactly the way 238 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:24.759 I wanted. I agree the way I agree. 239 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:28.240 I agree that way across the board with many things. However, 240 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:34.919 I will say this, Trump's repeated declaration that this was 241 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:38.960 Obama and Biden is not all true. Yes, it was 242 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:43.320 Obama in twenty thirteen that put the DEI ball into motion, 243 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:48.840 including in the Air Traffic Control Department. But Trump left 244 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:50.879 that in place during his first term. 245 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:51.240 Yeah. 246 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:55.120 Yeah, and it's one so so, I mean, it could 247 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:57.080 have been because he didn't know about it, which is 248 00:11:57.159 --> 00:11:59.720 probably the thing. If he had known about it, he 249 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:01.879 probably would have gotten rid of it. But the fact 250 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:04.200 of the matter is he didn't, and it rolled on 251 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:06.480 and it was renewed during the Biden administration. 252 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:11.200 So that's the facts your point, it's completely unnecessary. The 253 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:13.919 NTSB came out with their news conference yesterday during our 254 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:17.240 show later in the show, and they said, listen, we're 255 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:18.919 not going to get into any of that. What we're 256 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:21.399 going to tell you is this is how we do 257 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:22.360 the investigation. 258 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:23.879 This is what we're going to look for. 259 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:28.960 And they could care less about They couldn't care less 260 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:35.360 about the kind of hiring that went into the shouldn't. 261 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:37.240 That's not their job. That's not their job. It's the 262 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:40.679 job of the Department of Defense. It's the job of 263 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:43.039 the National Traffic Safety Board to take a look at 264 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:44.639 itself and see what's going on. 265 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:46.279 That's not the ntsp's job. 266 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.600 Yeah, so this is one of those weird you know, 267 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:54.440 we're talking about the loss of sixty seven peoples. You 268 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.240 got the three members, three Army soldiers who were in 269 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.480 that helicopter, the sixty four people on board that American 270 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:04.519 AIRLINEES regional flight. When we come back, though, I wanted 271 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:07.960 to play for you, a retired Army Captain Arman Curdion 272 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:12.960 described what I thought was the best description as to 273 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:16.000 how this might have happened when you're talking about how 274 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:19.480 would one set of pilots, how would one crew not 275 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:22.000 be able to see the other aircraft in the air. 276 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:24.639 And there was a visualization that I saw that kind 277 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:27.879 of nailed it down for me, at least let me 278 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.120 see it for my own eyes, how this could have happened. 279 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:32.399 So we'll talk about that we come. 280 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:36.360 Back, Gary and Shannon will continue. We are hearing about 281 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:39.159 some of the victims as well. We'll get into who 282 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:42.480 they were. President trump'sys twenty five percent tariffs on Canada 283 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:47.240 and Mexico are coming tomorrow. Hasn't decided if oil imports 284 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:50.559 will be included. Allegedly speaking at the White House, Trump 285 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:53.200 said it would depend on the price of oil. He says, 286 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:56.159 we don't need the products Mexico and Canada have and 287 00:13:56.279 --> 00:14:01.159 have all the oil needed right here. Applied half of 288 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:04.720 oil exports to the US in twenty twenty three, Mexico 289 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:05.799 made up eleven percent. 290 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:09.559 We are going to get more water in southern California. 291 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:12.879 There's a bump in the allocation of water that's been 292 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:16.720 released from northern California. This extra amount could help serve 293 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:19.879 as drought insurance. A state Department of Water Resources announced 294 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:22.320 to this week that it's raised the allotment of requested 295 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:25.679 supplies delivered by the state Water project from fifteen percent 296 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:30.480 up to twenty percent. Of that amount of the billions 297 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:33.200 of gallons of water. The Metropolitan Water District of Southern 298 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:36.320 California is the largest wholesaler of the state, expected to 299 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:38.720 get about three hundred and eighty two thousand acre feet. 300 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:40.240 So stick that in your sock. 301 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:45.240 All right. Back to the disaster over the Potomac. The 302 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:49.960 FAA says that staffing was not normal. Multiple media reports 303 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:55.639 cite this source that say staffing was not adequate. The 304 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:59.159 tower typically has a controller focused on helicopter traffic, another 305 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:03.120 checking both air planes and helicopter activity. So they have 306 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:07.000 not reviewed any specific reports about who was stationed where, 307 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.480 but that there were too few bodies involved. 308 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:14.120 So the question that has come up is how could 309 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:19.679 these pilots, both for the bombardier plane, the jet and 310 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:24.200 the helicopter not see each other. Retired Army Captain Armand 311 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:27.360 Curdion has looked at a bunch of the flight data 312 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.759 that we know about when it comes to how high 313 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:33.320 they were, what direction they were going, et cetera. 314 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:36.279 Certainly, if you look at the perspective of the aircraft 315 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:38.799 coming down. It's still hard to determine from the video, 316 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:43.120 the dark light video that we actually see, but your 317 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:47.039 vision is going to be shielded seeing that helicopter coming down. 318 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:51.639 Basically the aircraft moved into where the helicopter actually was. 319 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:53.720 That whose fault it was is, so you have to 320 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:58.200 figure that out. And from the helicopter's flighter perspective, even 321 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:03.240 though they have basically a hatch ahead of them and 322 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:06.120 above them so that they can actually see out the aircraft, 323 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:09.000 I doubt they would have seen the American Airlines aircraft 324 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:11.360 even if they've been looking in the right direction until 325 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:13.639 maybe a few seconds before the missap actually occurred. And 326 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:16.080 I don't see how those pilots could have possibly seen 327 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:18.919 that helicopter that was below them considered the aspect of 328 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:19.720 the nose of the air. 329 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:21.279 Now that's the key part for me. 330 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:24.960 Somebody plugged in the flight information that they know of 331 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:29.120 so far that's been publicly sourced into a flight simulator, 332 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:31.720 and they showed the view from the cockpit of the 333 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:35.480 American Eagle plane and as that plane came into land, 334 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:38.159 it banked to the left just a little bit. And 335 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:40.840 if you imagine when you're flying and you turn to 336 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:44.120 the left, the plane kind of tilts on its axis 337 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:46.600 there and that left wing is going to go sorry, 338 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:48.639 the right wing is going to go higher. If you're 339 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:52.000 in the cockpit, you lose vision of everything that's below 340 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:55.960 you or to that side of the airplane. So if 341 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:01.000 that helicopter was coming from below them and rise, there's 342 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:03.159 no way that the pilots in the in the jet 343 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:04.240 would have ever seen them. 344 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:06.799 You'd think there'd be censors that would alert the. 345 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:07.519 And there are. 346 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.000 But as I learned yesterday from Jay Ratliffe, our our 347 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:15.319 iHeart aviation expert, he was saying that those don't work 348 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:18.960 below a thousand feet interesting, which is and the collision 349 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:19.799 they would just. 350 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:23.480 Go off crazy because off skyscrapers and things, probably. 351 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:26.279 And because the collision itself took place at somewhere around 352 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:28.440 three hundred to four hundred feet, Yeah, it would have 353 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:32.599 been well below totally interesting. And it's it's a I 354 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:35.640 mean you said this at the beginning of last segment, 355 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.279 that there's so much traffic and a helicopter traffic in 356 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:40.599 that area. There have been a bunch of videos that 357 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.519 I've seen now of people taking off from Reagan National 358 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:45.400 with helicopters right there. 359 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:48.119 Yea, not over there, That's what I'm saying. Right yeah, 360 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:50.160 you take off and you're like, what the hell this 361 00:17:50.279 --> 00:17:52.720 is crazy, But you know, there's this false sense of secure. 362 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:57.480 Oh it's a military, everyone knows what they're doing, right, Yeah, that's. 363 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:04.279 We do know obviously that some figure skaters were members 364 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:06.720 of the plane or I should say passengers on the 365 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:07.839 plane that went down. 366 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:10.720 Yeah, it was Wichitah where they were having their competition, 367 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:14.079 competition as there has been everyone has been talking about. 368 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:16.160 They talked about figure skaters last week. 369 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:20.160 It was US Finals and the Boston area. There was 370 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:22.519 a Boston Ski Center and Nancy Kerrigan actually spoke from 371 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:26.359 it yesterday. Yeah, and there was a handful of skaters 372 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:30.640 from that specific gym that that lost people as well, 373 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:35.799 just really adds more more tragedy. I guess. I don't know. 374 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:38.640 I mean, it's it's tragic no matter who loses their lives. 375 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:42.079 But sometimes you know, and it's a football league. I'm 376 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:44.440 thinking about John Madden's football team that goes down, or 377 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:46.720 you know, a bunch of skaters that were going to 378 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:49.079 skate for the United States coming up in the Olympics, 379 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:52.000 just adds another eerie I guess is the way to 380 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:54.319 say another erie level you had? 381 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:57.519 Obviously, flight attendants like Ian Epstein, fifty three years old, 382 00:18:57.680 --> 00:18:59.000 was killed on that flight. 383 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:01.000 The figure skaters. 384 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:04.319 Jennahan is an only child with skating since she was 385 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:07.839 four years old. She's just thirteen. She was traveling with 386 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.680 her forty nine year old mother Jin and they were 387 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:15.039 both killed. Sixteen year old Spencer Lane chasing his figure 388 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:18.480 skating dreams at the Figure Skating Championships. He was there 389 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:24.319 with his mother is Well Christine. The crew chief on 390 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:27.759 the Blackhawk helicopter was twenty eight year old Ryan O'Hara 391 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:32.480 and described as a wonderful kid, had a smile for everyone, 392 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:35.720 loved being in the army. Had just texted his dad 393 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:38.279 earlier Wednesday about a new assignment that could bring him 394 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:42.599 and his wife back to Georgia. Ryan's father said that 395 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:45.000 he doated on his little one year old son. 396 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:50.400 Kaya Dugan thirty years old, visiting her hometown of Wichita 397 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:53.440 because her mom had a surgical procedure that she was 398 00:19:53.920 --> 00:20:00.400 going there. Therefore, then there was the husband and wife, 399 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:04.960 renowned Russian figure skaters, former Russian figure skaters. Now we're 400 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:06.880 coaching young skaters there in Boston. 401 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:12.400