Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. Death taxes in January take six
Speaker 1: months to complete. Those are the only true things I
Speaker 1: can say in this life.
Speaker 2: My wife said that last night, that January seems to
Speaker 2: be taking forever. It always does every year. The good
Speaker 2: news is, after today, you don't have to worry about
Speaker 2: it anymore.
Speaker 1: Police boats have returned to the river part of the
Speaker 1: recovery and investigation after that crash killed sixty seven people.
Speaker 2: How are you going to just gloss over the fact
Speaker 2: that you feel better today.
Speaker 1: I do feel better today. I also feel like that's
Speaker 1: wildly insignificant.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's big stories. But people were worried about you.
Speaker 1: They were, yeah, oh, it's a root canal.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It was the worst pain I've ever felt. It was awful.
Speaker 1: I thought I could tough it out. I thought I
Speaker 1: could just motrin my way through a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Until I got in there. I could not even put
Speaker 1: some of that goo on your I put the goose,
Speaker 1: which by the way, is extremely low grade because I
Speaker 1: got the actual brand name origel from the CVS. That
Speaker 1: stuff is legit. That's like the dentist office stuff. The
Speaker 1: stuff we have here is like poor Man's origel made
Speaker 1: you feel like last about six minutes.
Speaker 2: Like like Bristol Palin, that's a weird story. Sorry, that's
Speaker 2: a deep cut. Why she has facial paralysis for some
Speaker 2: reason and she can't figure out why?
Speaker 1: And why did that story remind you of that?
Speaker 2: Because you talked about it. Numbed up that side of
Speaker 2: your face. Pretty good, the good stuff, the.
Speaker 1: Good stuff did, yeah, but it didn't show paralysis.
Speaker 2: Actually probably felt like a little bit right, No, No,
Speaker 2: never mind, I didn't know she had paralysis.
Speaker 1: That's awful.
Speaker 3: It's probably a viral thing. It maybe uh is it
Speaker 3: long term bar syndrome? Oh, could be. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that you got the Bristol Palin newsletter.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that she was in my feed, but
Speaker 2: apparently I saw it on Twitter yesterday that she's having
Speaker 2: she's still her struggles, was Scilla, No, that's Sarah Ah.
Speaker 3: Bristol is the kid, right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, I know she's the kid. But didn't she also
Speaker 1: live with her mother and Wasscilla.
Speaker 2: I don't know if she that's a good question. I
Speaker 2: don't know where she is location wise, she's on Twitter.
Speaker 4: I know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you really think that I was confused that
Speaker 1: Bristol Palin was the one that ran for vice president. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it's a crisis.
Speaker 3: Is assume that I was that dumb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know I've been gone a day,
Speaker 1: but I'm not that dumb. Anyway, Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1: They I did get prescribed the opioids for the first
Speaker 1: time in my life.
Speaker 2: You ask the painkillers. I haven't been prescribed painkillers for
Speaker 2: a long I did.
Speaker 1: Say that the pain was much worse than I remembered
Speaker 1: the last time I needed a root canal. I mean
Speaker 1: I would have remembered. And my brother was making a joke,
Speaker 1: but I think there's kind of truth to it. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: this is dry january, serves you, right, you won't even
Speaker 1: felt this if you were doing dry January. I'm like, probably,
Speaker 1: like I probably would have had a few glasses of
Speaker 1: wine and been like, I can handle this. I grunted out,
Speaker 1: but I mean, hey, I don't remember the pain being
Speaker 1: that bad. But anyway, I was with the doctor and
Speaker 1: they said, we're going to prescribe you the six hundred
Speaker 1: milligrams motron, which is the usual thing, which is great,
Speaker 1: works for me just fine, even in this situation where
Speaker 1: I had felt pain. It worked as soon as I
Speaker 1: took the first one. It worked so much better than
Speaker 1: just the couple of motron I was taking. But they
Speaker 1: did prescribe the oxy codone, I guess in case the
Speaker 1: hydro codone. Hydro codone codone. I knew it was bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean good for some people who can
Speaker 1: handle it. Was there somebody like me? No? Boy?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: So I took it. I got the re or I
Speaker 1: got the prescription, and I didn't know that they had
Speaker 1: prescribed that when I went to the pharmacy to pick
Speaker 1: it up and I get it, and I'm like, what's this? Okay,
Speaker 1: I immediately take it and I put it in my
Speaker 1: husband's bathroom immediately.
Speaker 3: You didn't take it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't need to end up in
Speaker 1: a gutter with a heroin addiction.
Speaker 3: They bother to ask you they did not preferred or
Speaker 3: wanted or maybe is there an issue.
Speaker 1: No, it did not come up. It did not come
Speaker 1: up because I would have said no, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's a strang.
Speaker 1: There is also the human I think reflex of well
Speaker 1: maybe just in case, I should have it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's not the me ending up
Speaker 1: in a gutter on Heroin side of me. That's the
Speaker 1: hoarder in me. I think, like Jacob was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you should have that. I mean, you don't ever know
Speaker 1: when you're going to be stuck somewhere in the middle
Speaker 1: of nowhere and need it. My husband's the same way.
Speaker 1: I mean, he hoards medications from like years ago. I
Speaker 1: think everyone kind of does that, they hoard medications.
Speaker 2: No, I don't do that. I mean I might listen
Speaker 2: and I have a pretty strong hoarding tendency.
Speaker 1: That it's not like something No, but you've never been
Speaker 1: prescribed anything.
Speaker 3: It's like I said, it's been a long time, right.
Speaker 1: But I think that some people, especially as you get older,
Speaker 1: you want to make sure you have you know, whether
Speaker 1: it's like a steroid pack or antibiotics, so you want
Speaker 1: to make sure you have something in case something comes
Speaker 1: up and you can't get to the doctor right away. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know a Jacob, you're a hoarder. Tell me
Speaker 1: you're you're a young hord You're not even thirty yet. No,
Speaker 1: so explain the situation.
Speaker 3: So I have some sweet muscle relaxers.
Speaker 1: They're great, but like, what's the mentality behind that?
Speaker 5: You just keep them when you need them for a
Speaker 5: rainy day. Never know, I just spilled water all over
Speaker 5: the place. If you need a muscle relaxer, though, oh man,
Speaker 5: it's a good one. Do you know what it's called?
Speaker 5: But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: I don't want to know. I don't know what it's called.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I took it last year when I injured my back. Yeah,
Speaker 5: huh from lifting, and it was great. It happened to
Speaker 5: be lifting.
Speaker 1: It happened your back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you saw the plates. He
Speaker 3: was thrown around. But what exercise were you doing? The squats?
Speaker 1: Were you lifting Adam in the air as you did them?
Speaker 3: Yeah? He was on my back.
Speaker 2: He was sitting on the bar, so I threw him
Speaker 2: on there. All right, Well, we're glad you're back.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I listened to the show yesterday. I must
Speaker 1: say I like that show, SAMs me. It's nice. It's
Speaker 1: it's more relaxed, calm. It's calm.
Speaker 2: I can do a squirrel story without losing my mind.
Speaker 2: Claiming that they're all the devil's spawn.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that because you had to go to
Speaker 1: the press conference. Did and then I got home and
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't turn it on when I got home.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe I don't worry.
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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know who wrote that or is
Speaker 3: that old? Somebody under the age of It's old.
Speaker 1: Okay, so now smash is back to just like tapping aggressively. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: Gary? Last night, did you watch any of the fire
Speaker 3: Aid concert? No, it was.
Speaker 2: It was had some incredible moments and some ones that
Speaker 2: were pretty cringe, But I did catch a good portion
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: It went on for five and a half hours.
Speaker 1: Where's the cringe?
Speaker 2: Stevie Nicks actually, for me, was kind of cringe by
Speaker 2: Katie Perry.
Speaker 1: It's your mouth because Stevie's my favorite.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not saying She's not a legendary.
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's hard to watch our icons age
Speaker 2: as much and as Rod Stewart was amazing as much
Speaker 2: as Okay, so men.
Speaker 1: Can age, but women can't. Yeah, Amy and I heard
Speaker 1: the same fing thing.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that a little bit later, but we're
Speaker 2: going to start in just a couple of minutes. The
Speaker 2: latest on what we know about this DC plane crash,
Speaker 2: and one specific explanation that I think is the best
Speaker 2: as to how something like this could possibly have happened.
Speaker 1: The FAA has indefinitely closed a routes near Reagan National
Speaker 1: to most helicopter traffic after that collision. And that was
Speaker 1: one of my first reactions to this so well, the
Speaker 1: first one was, how does a communication era like this
Speaker 1: happen in twenty twenty four. This is something that shouldn't
Speaker 1: have happened in nineteen fifty four, let alone in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. There's no excuse for that kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: I understand that the air traffic control system has been
Speaker 1: understaffed for a long time and over worked and antiquated,
Speaker 1: and the machinery, the technology, it's all antiquated. It is
Speaker 1: the best word and it's kind of one of those
Speaker 1: things where we think we're it's this ignorance right where
Speaker 1: we think we're the best at everything. We're America, We're
Speaker 1: the best at everything. We're the best at AI. You
Speaker 1: can't have our computer chips are too fancy for you China.
Speaker 1: China's like, okay, well whatever, We're going to do our
Speaker 1: own thing and do just as well as you did
Speaker 1: with cheap computer chips. Same thing with the air traffic
Speaker 1: controller system. If we're just resting on, oh, we're just
Speaker 1: the best. We're the best at everything, not realizing the
Speaker 1: dilapidation of several different things in this country. I mean,
Speaker 1: you look at infrastructure, go back to nineteen fifty four,
Speaker 1: go back to the formation of the highways, and we
Speaker 1: were the best at everything, space travel, what have you.
Speaker 1: Right now we look around, we're not it's a reckoning
Speaker 1: to realize that we have let things fall through the cracks. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that was one of the thoughts. The other thought was
Speaker 1: what is the military doing. If you've flown in or
Speaker 1: out of Reagan in a lot of people have most
Speaker 1: people listening probably have you've noticed before the military aircraft
Speaker 1: co mingling with the commercial aircraft and probably had the
Speaker 1: thought of, eh, is that a good idea? What do
Speaker 1: I know? I'm just Shannon from LA But isn't that
Speaker 1: a good idea for those black Hawk helicopters be flying
Speaker 1: in cahoots with the jetliners. So that's a question that
Speaker 1: just seems like a common sense question. And then the
Speaker 1: third reaction was such discussed over the race to politicize
Speaker 1: this thing on both sides. Trump coming out right away
Speaker 1: and saying this was a DEI problem. It may very
Speaker 1: well have been, but we have no idea that that is.
Speaker 1: It seemed like injecting a hot topic nationally into a
Speaker 1: tragedy when the bodies had even been found yet. And
Speaker 1: then the left's reaction to crucify him for doing that.
Speaker 1: It was all just so disgusting.
Speaker 2: The the whole Dei conversation yesterday made me think, as
Speaker 2: I was reading more about it last night, what if
Speaker 2: what if the Biden administration had come out and said
Speaker 2: that this was a result of toxic masculinity, where the
Speaker 2: hot dog black Hawk pilot was fast and loose with
Speaker 2: the regulations because he was toxic masculinity. What I mean,
Speaker 2: in the event that the pilots of the American Eagle
Speaker 2: flight and the pilot or pilots of the Blackhawk helicopter
Speaker 2: both happened to be absolute top of their game and
Speaker 2: hired therefore put in those positions because they were top
Speaker 2: of their class and had nothing to do with diversity,
Speaker 2: equity inclusion hiring. Then that makes the President look foolish
Speaker 2: for even bringing that up. Here's now, I agree with
Speaker 2: him that Pete Hegseth said this the Secretary of Defense,
Speaker 2: He said, our Defense Department is a merit based Amen,
Speaker 2: I heard this organization. Yeah, and that's exactly the way
Speaker 2: I wanted. I agree the way I agree.
Speaker 1: I agree that way across the board with many things. However,
Speaker 1: I will say this, Trump's repeated declaration that this was
Speaker 1: Obama and Biden is not all true. Yes, it was
Speaker 1: Obama in twenty thirteen that put the DEI ball into motion,
Speaker 1: including in the Air Traffic Control Department. But Trump left
Speaker 1: that in place during his first term.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's one so so, I mean, it could
Speaker 1: have been because he didn't know about it, which is
Speaker 1: probably the thing. If he had known about it, he
Speaker 1: probably would have gotten rid of it. But the fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is he didn't, and it rolled on
Speaker 1: and it was renewed during the Biden administration.
Speaker 2: So that's the facts your point, it's completely unnecessary. The
Speaker 2: NTSB came out with their news conference yesterday during our
Speaker 2: show later in the show, and they said, listen, we're
Speaker 2: not going to get into any of that. What we're
Speaker 2: going to tell you is this is how we do
Speaker 2: the investigation.
Speaker 3: This is what we're going to look for.
Speaker 2: And they could care less about They couldn't care less
Speaker 2: about the kind of hiring that went into the shouldn't.
Speaker 2: That's not their job. That's not their job. It's the
Speaker 2: job of the Department of Defense. It's the job of
Speaker 2: the National Traffic Safety Board to take a look at
Speaker 2: itself and see what's going on.
Speaker 1: That's not the ntsp's job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is one of those weird you know,
Speaker 2: we're talking about the loss of sixty seven peoples. You
Speaker 2: got the three members, three Army soldiers who were in
Speaker 2: that helicopter, the sixty four people on board that American
Speaker 2: AIRLINEES regional flight. When we come back, though, I wanted
Speaker 2: to play for you, a retired Army Captain Arman Curdion
Speaker 2: described what I thought was the best description as to
Speaker 2: how this might have happened when you're talking about how
Speaker 2: would one set of pilots, how would one crew not
Speaker 2: be able to see the other aircraft in the air.
Speaker 2: And there was a visualization that I saw that kind
Speaker 2: of nailed it down for me, at least let me
Speaker 2: see it for my own eyes, how this could have happened.
Speaker 3: So we'll talk about that we come.
Speaker 1: Back, Gary and Shannon will continue. We are hearing about
Speaker 1: some of the victims as well. We'll get into who
Speaker 1: they were. President trump'sys twenty five percent tariffs on Canada
Speaker 1: and Mexico are coming tomorrow. Hasn't decided if oil imports
Speaker 1: will be included. Allegedly speaking at the White House, Trump
Speaker 1: said it would depend on the price of oil. He says,
Speaker 1: we don't need the products Mexico and Canada have and
Speaker 1: have all the oil needed right here. Applied half of
Speaker 1: oil exports to the US in twenty twenty three, Mexico
Speaker 1: made up eleven percent.
Speaker 2: We are going to get more water in southern California.
Speaker 2: There's a bump in the allocation of water that's been
Speaker 2: released from northern California. This extra amount could help serve
Speaker 2: as drought insurance. A state Department of Water Resources announced
Speaker 2: to this week that it's raised the allotment of requested
Speaker 2: supplies delivered by the state Water project from fifteen percent
Speaker 2: up to twenty percent. Of that amount of the billions
Speaker 2: of gallons of water. The Metropolitan Water District of Southern
Speaker 2: California is the largest wholesaler of the state, expected to
Speaker 2: get about three hundred and eighty two thousand acre feet.
Speaker 3: So stick that in your sock.
Speaker 1: All right. Back to the disaster over the Potomac. The
Speaker 1: FAA says that staffing was not normal. Multiple media reports
Speaker 1: cite this source that say staffing was not adequate. The
Speaker 1: tower typically has a controller focused on helicopter traffic, another
Speaker 1: checking both air planes and helicopter activity. So they have
Speaker 1: not reviewed any specific reports about who was stationed where,
Speaker 1: but that there were too few bodies involved.
Speaker 2: So the question that has come up is how could
Speaker 2: these pilots, both for the bombardier plane, the jet and
Speaker 2: the helicopter not see each other. Retired Army Captain Armand
Speaker 2: Curdion has looked at a bunch of the flight data
Speaker 2: that we know about when it comes to how high
Speaker 2: they were, what direction they were going, et cetera.
Speaker 6: Certainly, if you look at the perspective of the aircraft
Speaker 6: coming down. It's still hard to determine from the video,
Speaker 6: the dark light video that we actually see, but your
Speaker 6: vision is going to be shielded seeing that helicopter coming down.
Speaker 6: Basically the aircraft moved into where the helicopter actually was.
Speaker 6: That whose fault it was is, so you have to
Speaker 6: figure that out. And from the helicopter's flighter perspective, even
Speaker 6: though they have basically a hatch ahead of them and
Speaker 6: above them so that they can actually see out the aircraft,
Speaker 6: I doubt they would have seen the American Airlines aircraft
Speaker 6: even if they've been looking in the right direction until
Speaker 6: maybe a few seconds before the missap actually occurred. And
Speaker 6: I don't see how those pilots could have possibly seen
Speaker 6: that helicopter that was below them considered the aspect of
Speaker 6: the nose of the air.
Speaker 3: Now that's the key part for me.
Speaker 2: Somebody plugged in the flight information that they know of
Speaker 2: so far that's been publicly sourced into a flight simulator,
Speaker 2: and they showed the view from the cockpit of the
Speaker 2: American Eagle plane and as that plane came into land,
Speaker 2: it banked to the left just a little bit. And
Speaker 2: if you imagine when you're flying and you turn to
Speaker 2: the left, the plane kind of tilts on its axis
Speaker 2: there and that left wing is going to go sorry,
Speaker 2: the right wing is going to go higher. If you're
Speaker 2: in the cockpit, you lose vision of everything that's below
Speaker 2: you or to that side of the airplane. So if
Speaker 2: that helicopter was coming from below them and rise, there's
Speaker 2: no way that the pilots in the in the jet
Speaker 2: would have ever seen them.
Speaker 1: You'd think there'd be censors that would alert the.
Speaker 3: And there are.
Speaker 2: But as I learned yesterday from Jay Ratliffe, our our
Speaker 2: iHeart aviation expert, he was saying that those don't work
Speaker 2: below a thousand feet interesting, which is and the collision
Speaker 2: they would just.
Speaker 1: Go off crazy because off skyscrapers and things, probably.
Speaker 2: And because the collision itself took place at somewhere around
Speaker 2: three hundred to four hundred feet, Yeah, it would have
Speaker 2: been well below totally interesting. And it's it's a I
Speaker 2: mean you said this at the beginning of last segment,
Speaker 2: that there's so much traffic and a helicopter traffic in
Speaker 2: that area. There have been a bunch of videos that
Speaker 2: I've seen now of people taking off from Reagan National
Speaker 2: with helicopters right there.
Speaker 1: Yea, not over there, That's what I'm saying. Right yeah,
Speaker 1: you take off and you're like, what the hell this
Speaker 1: is crazy, But you know, there's this false sense of secure.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a military, everyone knows what they're doing, right, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: We do know obviously that some figure skaters were members
Speaker 2: of the plane or I should say passengers on the
Speaker 2: plane that went down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Wichitah where they were having their competition,
Speaker 1: competition as there has been everyone has been talking about.
Speaker 2: They talked about figure skaters last week.
Speaker 1: It was US Finals and the Boston area. There was
Speaker 1: a Boston Ski Center and Nancy Kerrigan actually spoke from
Speaker 1: it yesterday. Yeah, and there was a handful of skaters
Speaker 1: from that specific gym that that lost people as well,
Speaker 1: just really adds more more tragedy. I guess. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's tragic no matter who loses their lives.
Speaker 1: But sometimes you know, and it's a football league. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about John Madden's football team that goes down, or
Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of skaters that were going to
Speaker 1: skate for the United States coming up in the Olympics,
Speaker 1: just adds another eerie I guess is the way to
Speaker 1: say another erie level you had?
Speaker 2: Obviously, flight attendants like Ian Epstein, fifty three years old,
Speaker 2: was killed on that flight.
Speaker 3: The figure skaters.
Speaker 2: Jennahan is an only child with skating since she was
Speaker 2: four years old. She's just thirteen. She was traveling with
Speaker 2: her forty nine year old mother Jin and they were
Speaker 2: both killed. Sixteen year old Spencer Lane chasing his figure
Speaker 2: skating dreams at the Figure Skating Championships. He was there
Speaker 2: with his mother is Well Christine. The crew chief on
Speaker 2: the Blackhawk helicopter was twenty eight year old Ryan O'Hara
Speaker 2: and described as a wonderful kid, had a smile for everyone,
Speaker 2: loved being in the army. Had just texted his dad
Speaker 2: earlier Wednesday about a new assignment that could bring him
Speaker 2: and his wife back to Georgia. Ryan's father said that
Speaker 2: he doated on his little one year old son.
Speaker 1: Kaya Dugan thirty years old, visiting her hometown of Wichita
Speaker 1: because her mom had a surgical procedure that she was
Speaker 1: going there. Therefore, then there was the husband and wife,
Speaker 1: renowned Russian figure skaters, former Russian figure skaters. Now we're
Speaker 1: coaching young skaters there in Boston.
Speaker 2: You have Gania Shishkova and Vadim Naumov, the coaches who
Speaker 2: were there. Another Cory Hainos, a teenage skater from Northern
Speaker 2: Virginia's parents, Stephanie and Roger, also on board that flight,
Speaker 2: according to relatives.
Speaker 3: I mean, just the adding the.
Speaker 2: I guess the personal details of the people who were
Speaker 2: lost just makes it even that much more terrifying and
Speaker 2: makes it makes it that much more sad that this
Speaker 2: had to happen in this way. Hopefully never again. I
Speaker 2: told you she has facial paralysis.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you knew that. That's just so obscure.
Speaker 1: But did you read this yesterday?
Speaker 3: I told you she.
Speaker 2: Boasted a video of her showing what's going on with
Speaker 2: her face?
Speaker 1: Did you see this video yesterday? Okay, that's what I'm asking.
Speaker 1: Did you hear about this yesterday?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, I heard about it yesterday, But I didn't
Speaker 3: read the article.
Speaker 1: You just saw on her Instagram page or something.
Speaker 2: Listen, I don't need to tell you if she tends
Speaker 2: me text messages or not.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. She revealed on social media that Gary follows
Speaker 1: she woke up nine days ago with a little weird
Speaker 1: sensation in my face. My mouth was pulling to the left,
Speaker 1: just felt off. She said it was so bad. At
Speaker 1: some point within hours, the entire left side of my
Speaker 1: face was numb paralyzed. She's thirty four. Now that means
Speaker 1: her babies like what seventeen eighteen?
Speaker 3: Probably yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow. She did not just close an exact diagnosis for
Speaker 1: her condition, but she did go through a CT scan,
Speaker 1: numerous tests. She was prescribed steroids and other meds. She
Speaker 1: may have a case of bell'sy Bell's policy.
Speaker 2: We do know that staffing at the air traffic control
Speaker 2: tower at Reagan National was not normal for the time
Speaker 2: of day and the volume of traffic. According to report
Speaker 2: that came out from the FAA, the initial report about
Speaker 2: that crash from earlier this week, the control roller who
Speaker 2: was handling helicopters was also instructing planes that were landing
Speaker 2: and departing. Those are usually assigned to two controllers rather
Speaker 2: than just one.
Speaker 1: I would like to apologize to you and help crystallize
Speaker 1: your point with regard to fire but with regard to
Speaker 1: fire aid and you mentioned Stevie Nicks, and it's hard
Speaker 1: for us to watch our legends age and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: so men can age like Rod Stewart, but women can't.
Speaker 1: And that was very unfair of me to say that
Speaker 1: that was your thing you're thinking, because it is true
Speaker 1: in that when you see people on stage that you
Speaker 1: remember being young and in the height of their celebrity
Speaker 1: and youth and all of the things, it is kind
Speaker 1: of jarring when you see because you think about when
Speaker 1: you think of them in your mind, you think of
Speaker 1: that image, right, and then you see them. And I
Speaker 1: had the same feeling when I saw def Leppard at
Speaker 1: the Forum a handful of years ago, ten years ago
Speaker 1: now or something like that, and I thought, oh, my god,
Speaker 1: they're so old. And it's not that they're so old,
Speaker 1: it's just that you remember them in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 1: And Stevie Nix is another one of those people that
Speaker 1: I remember in my The image in my mind is
Speaker 1: Stevie Nicks in the eighties. That's when I was first
Speaker 1: aware of her. So when you see people like that,
Speaker 1: it is jarring. And their voices do not always age. Wonderfully,
Speaker 1: nobody's doing none of ours will. It's very rare for
Speaker 1: especially a vocalist, to have your voice remain intact after
Speaker 1: all those years in performing, and most often it is
Speaker 1: not and it makes it kind of sad. And you're right,
Speaker 1: and that's what you meant. You didn't mean that. You
Speaker 1: didn't mean that men can age and women.
Speaker 3: I do want to I apologe.
Speaker 2: One of the reasons that you're saying this is because
Speaker 2: you did check out this day and im.
Speaker 1: And I was able to crystallize your point looking at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So last night Fire at La was the double
Speaker 2: I guess, double venue concert.
Speaker 3: They did it at the Kia Forum.
Speaker 2: They did it at the Intuit Dome across way across
Speaker 2: the parking lot, started by Billy Crystal.
Speaker 4: These were the clothes I wore when I fled my
Speaker 4: house with my wife Janice, like so many of us
Speaker 4: did on January Seventh's all I had ward for a week,
Speaker 4: plus an N ninety five mask. I look like in
Speaker 4: a vactor where you are someone who had just robbed
Speaker 4: a seven eleven. But everybody's been so supportive. This young girl,
Speaker 4: which must have been twenty, came up to me and
Speaker 4: said she understood my pain because she had lost TikTok.
Speaker 3: For a day.
Speaker 2: He also pointed out, and I had forgotten this that
Speaker 2: the concert for New York. I think they've officially named it,
Speaker 2: renamed it the Concert for America after the September eleventh attacks.
Speaker 3: He was the guy who opened that one as well.
Speaker 1: Can I just say that that is a brilliant move
Speaker 1: to whoever makes a phone called a Billy Crystal after
Speaker 1: nine to eleven or after something like this. He is
Speaker 1: the most comforting person and brings such an area of
Speaker 1: an aura of nostalgia with him. It just makes you
Speaker 1: feel good. Billy Crystal just does that. And I think
Speaker 1: it hearkens back to the oscars ony we used just
Speaker 1: a host and whenever that was. And maybe I think
Speaker 1: that way is a because I think that way of
Speaker 1: like Ronald Reagan as well, because I guess it's what
Speaker 1: I grew up with. But Billy Crystal is just so
Speaker 1: calming and just so and you know, even if even
Speaker 1: as dumb jokes you'll laugh at because it's Billy Crystal.
Speaker 3: Billy Crystal Safe, Yes, safe.
Speaker 2: A lot of LA based bands, obviously, simply because there
Speaker 2: are LA based bands. We had Hot Chili Peppers of course.
Speaker 2: Billie Eilish and her brother Billy Eilish came out a
Speaker 2: couple of times.
Speaker 3: Stevie Wonder was there.
Speaker 2: Nirvana actually made an appearance, and I mean that it's
Speaker 2: kind of Nirvana.
Speaker 3: Obviously. It was Dave Grohl and Chris Nova.
Speaker 2: Selic Pat Smear showed up on playing as well, and
Speaker 2: they did a song with Dave Grohl's daughter Violet.
Speaker 3: Oh listen, it's not Kurt Cobaine. But I thought it
Speaker 3: was a nice tribute that they did.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a number of Nirvana songs. You couldn't
Speaker 1: have a little girl do that one is probably a
Speaker 1: good choice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stevie Wonder and Sting came out and did Superstition.
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder and New Steve. Okay, that's cool. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I don't know if I'm into that mashup,
Speaker 1: but I do like the song.
Speaker 2: Fun collaborations like Kelly Roll brought out Travis Barker to
Speaker 2: play drums.
Speaker 1: Is that a tattoo? Think that the tattoo place.
Speaker 2: Katy Perry had the Pasadena Corral behind her when she
Speaker 2: started her sets.
Speaker 1: Very big into the horses.
Speaker 3: There were good stuff. Listen.
Speaker 1: I thought you said you didn't like the Katy Perry park.
Speaker 2: Well, I said that she was having problems with her
Speaker 2: her monitors. She was having problems with her headphone, so
Speaker 2: she you could tell she's a better singer than what
Speaker 2: she did last night. But again, that's live performance. That
Speaker 2: that's kind of what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: You're a harsh critic because you do live performances.
Speaker 3: No, that's not you know.
Speaker 1: How the sausage is made.
Speaker 2: There were people last night on social media who were
Speaker 2: saying that this was a this was a master's course
Speaker 2: in how to do live music. And for the most part,
Speaker 2: they did fantastic, but there were a couple of little
Speaker 2: technical things that you could tell were not going well,
Speaker 2: and Katy Perry was one of them that she she
Speaker 2: just didn't sound her best. Billie Eilish, though she's got
Speaker 2: to be the most talented singer that's out there right now.
Speaker 3: Oh, I guess I could turn it.
Speaker 1: Over Billy Eilish. I understand her talent and her gift
Speaker 1: and it's incredible. Just makes me so freaking depressed. All right,
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