WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:04.719 The Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly 2 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:09.759 Show on a Friday and ass Doctor Jesse Friday, somebody 3 00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:13.199 wants to talk about World War Two, dog fights, cups 4 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:17.399 of costs, were killers, These killers who write everything down 5 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:22.960 the manifestos, my political arc if you will. All that 6 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:25.960 and so much more coming up on the world Famous 7 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:27.839 Jesse Kelly Show. I'm going to get to this one 8 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:31.679 right off the bat, Jesse, what is to deal with 9 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:37.079 writing a manifesto? Manifesto? Why do killers write a manifesto 10 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:41.000 describing why they're going to commit mass destruction or murder? 11 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:44.039 Is this something they learned to do in college or something? 12 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:50.840 Why bother with a manifesto? I'm just curious, Okay, So 13 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:55.880 there is something that is very very real for all 14 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:58.280 human beings. This is about all of us, you and 15 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:06.239 me and everybody. People want to feel heard. They want 16 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:10.519 to feel important in some way. I don't mean necessarily 17 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:14.359 fame or something like that, but all human beings, all 18 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:17.599 of them, men, women, children, They want to feel like 19 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:21.400 they have a voice. They want to feel some amount 20 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:25.280 of power, some amount of power of control over the 21 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:31.000 things in their lives. And if you manipulate that in 22 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:34.400 really really terrible ways you can end up with what 23 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:38.159 happens with so many of these mass shooters, so many 24 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:43.560 of these killers. You see Columbine, it's something if you're 25 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:45.840 young enough, you weren't even alive because this was so 26 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:48.760 many years ago. Chris, wasn't Columbine the nineties? I forget. 27 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:50.840 I'm pretty sure it was the nineties, But anyway, I 28 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:54.760 was a kid. Wouldn't Columbine happened? I was young anyway? 29 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:58.200 And Chris said ninety nine, okay, yeah, it was the 30 00:01:58.239 --> 00:02:02.239 year I graduated high school? Was Columbine. Now again, it's 31 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:04.599 so weird because our world has changed so much in 32 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:09.759 the last twenty six years. Before Colinbine, it's not as 33 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:15.039 if there wasn't ever a mass shooting, but it really 34 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:18.919 was almost unheard of. It was almost completely unheard of. 35 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:21.599 It just is not one of those things that happened. 36 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:27.000 And then after Colinbine, they're all the time. Now, let's 37 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:30.879 be honest, it's every year. There will be generally multiple 38 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:35.719 year with various degrees of death, right, but there are 39 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:42.240 multiple a year. What happened, Well, a really horrible toxic 40 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:46.840 stew of things happened at once that has created this 41 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:49.919 mass shooting culture. So we're not going to go into 42 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:53.759 all of it, the medications there on, and I'm not 43 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:56.039 even going to go into the communist aspect of it. 44 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:59.439 I'm going to set all that stuff aside here. One 45 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:02.960 of the worst parts of it was the Colin Bine 46 00:03:03.159 --> 00:03:09.840 school shooters were made instantly famous, instantly, I could tell 47 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:11.680 you right now, and I will not even though you 48 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:14.120 already know it. I could tell you their names off 49 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:17.680 the top of my head right now because after that 50 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:21.159 horrible school shooting, it was such a shock. I'm not 51 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:23.879 even blaming the media or anyone on the left or right. 52 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:27.719 It was such a shock. It was such a sea change. Wait, 53 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:31.120 a bunch of school kids got mowed down by their classmates. 54 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:34.520 It was such a shock that it was all the 55 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:37.080 news could talk about. And I was a young man, right, 56 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:40.120 a teenager at seventeen, eighteen years old. It was all 57 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:42.439 you could see on the television forever. It seemed like 58 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:45.159 for a year. You would see their names, you would 59 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:48.439 see their faces, they had the pictures of them up. 60 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:51.560 They would be interviewing the victims and talk about the parents, 61 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:59.560 and those guys became famous immediately. Well, now let's talk 62 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:03.439 about how twist it up in evil you have to 63 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:08.400 be to decide you want to murder other human beings, 64 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:15.240 oftentimes indiscriminately. You are angry for, maybe you are bullied. 65 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.120 I will always believe, most often that these people are 66 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:23.079 demon possessed in some way. Demons are real. When you 67 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.480 read a story about a mother drowning or babies in 68 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:29.000 a bathtub, almost universally she will talk about the voices 69 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:32.199 in her head telling you to do so. Those are demons, right. 70 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:35.360 I believe that it's again a mixture of a bunch 71 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:39.319 of things. You hate your life, you're angry, your whatever, 72 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:43.680 and now you want to hurt people. Well, not only 73 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:48.040 do you want to hurt people. This publicity culture we 74 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:52.680 have now it gives you the ability to hurt people, 75 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:59.680 to hurt people publicly, and to get famous for it. Now, 76 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:06.759 if you're some mentally ill, demonic loser who hates everything, 77 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:10.079 you've decided to become murderous. You decided you want to 78 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:16.480 murder people. Being famous, even if it's famous in death, 79 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:20.639 even if it's fame, you will never see being famous. 80 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:25.199 It's very very appealing. And maybe you're the type of 81 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:29.079 person before the fame came with it. Maybe you're the 82 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:31.399 type of person who wouldn't have actually gone through with it. 83 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:35.199 Yeah you hate your classmates or your teacher, or your 84 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:38.240 mob or whatever it is, and yeah you want to 85 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:42.879 kill them, but you you didn't have the little nudge 86 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:46.720 to push you over the edge to do it. Time 87 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.720 after time after time after time after time, we see this. Now, 88 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:54.920 they write it down, they talk about it, they want 89 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:57.680 to do it, they end up doing it. The final 90 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:02.240 nudge is the fact that they will become known and famous. 91 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:04.959 And even if you say to yourself right now, well, yeah, 92 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:08.519 but they're so common, you'll only be famous for twenty 93 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:11.839 four hours, and then everyone will forget. That's twenty four 94 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.480 hours longer than that person has felt relevant and important 95 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:19.360 for the entirety of their lives. For twenty four hours, 96 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:23.439 people will know their names. And it's why I have 97 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.360 a rule, and I try the best I can to 98 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:28.600 stick with it. I am not perfect. I know I've 99 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.279 screwed it up in the past. I don't say their names. 100 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:35.120 I do not do it. I have always believed that 101 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.360 that should be a national policy. I'm not going to 102 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:39.399 say a national law, because you really don't want to 103 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:41.920 start making vas about things like that. I think it 104 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:46.920 should become an understandable part of our culture where everybody 105 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:53.120 talked about a major news organizations, you on social media, blogs, 106 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:56.079 you name it. I think there should be an embargo 107 00:06:56.600 --> 00:07:01.560 on naming these people because that is the difference. That's 108 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:04.639 why it ramped up. The first guys who did it 109 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:08.720 in Columbine got mega famous and got mega famous for 110 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:11.600 a long time. And if you're at home and you 111 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.279 feel like you have nothing to lose and you're demonic 112 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:19.000 and you get your hands on a weapon, whoa one 113 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:23.439 day's worth of fame while taking out all that anger 114 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:28.759 can make the difference. And that's why they write everything down. Two. 115 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:33.160 They want you to know. They want you to find 116 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:37.040 these things. They want you to find their notebook. They're manifesto. 117 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:40.759 I'm mad at my dad, I'm mad at this Christian school, 118 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:44.480 I'm mad at Republicans, I'm mad at They want you 119 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:46.920 to know it, and they want it read aloud on 120 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:50.800 CNN at night. It's what finally pushes them over the 121 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:54.600 edge to do it. You would have a fraction, a 122 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:59.600 tiny fraction of the school shootings if these kids didn't 123 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:05.199 get famos us for a day. But I don't want 124 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:09.439 to say society today, because society has always been this way. 125 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:12.000 Every period of time in history is the same way. 126 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:15.519 If it bleeds, it leads. That's what they say in 127 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:19.560 the media, feel good stories. You know, every single local 128 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:22.519 newscast in the country. I guarantee you have a local 129 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:26.360 news station in your area that tries this. Every newscast 130 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:29.160 tries to do a once a week. It's it's feel 131 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:32.360 good Fridays, and they'll highlight some lady who works at 132 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:35.000 a soup can soup kitchen hand and out, or famous 133 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:38.879 biscuits every day and let's introduce Gwen and stuff like that. 134 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:40.559 You know what. It's the lowest rated thing they do 135 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:47.240 all week, every single time. Because we human beings, we 136 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:49.559 want to see the bombs and the bullets and the blood, 137 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:56.200 the tragedy. It's a part of how we're made. I 138 00:08:56.240 --> 00:09:01.399 don't I'm not absolving myself from that. We were supposed 139 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:05.120 to go see a movie later on tonight. That new 140 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:07.360 Christian movie King of Kings is supposed to be wonderful. 141 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:09.480 I've heard it's really wonderful. Hey, Chris, you going And 142 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:11.440 I'm kidding, but we were supposed to go see King 143 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:14.720 of Kings later on tonight Bob got the flu, so 144 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:17.240 now we don't have to go. I'm thrilled about it. 145 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:21.399 Why no one's getting shot. And it's a great movie, right, 146 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:23.440 it's a good message and you should go see it. 147 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:24.919 And I will go see it because I want to 148 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:26.639 give them my business. I just can't do it tonight 149 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:29.279 because ab is sick. But they don't want to go 150 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:32.919 see a movie about Jesus. I want to go see. 151 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:37.399 I think there's a new movie out called Warfare. I 152 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:40.480 know there's a movie out called working Man where we're 153 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:43.360 a good guy who knows a bunch of special forts 154 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.840 and stuff ends up murdering a bunch of bad guys. Blood. 155 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:50.000 That's what I want to see. I'm guilty, pointing fingers 156 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:54.120 right here. That's who we are. And so the news 157 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:58.240 when one of these things happen, they love it because 158 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:02.879 you love it because I And that's the sadness of it. Right. 159 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:06.559 Let's get off of that. Let's talk about dog fights, 160 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:11.200 my political journey, many many other things still to come. Oh, 161 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:18.480 the Jesse Kelly Show on a Friday, A fantastic ass 162 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:21.120 Doctor Jesse Friday. You can still email us your love, 163 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:24.480 your hatre, your death, threats. You're ask doctor Jesse questions. 164 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:28.960 We're live here Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. And remember, 165 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:31.200 if you miss any part of the show, you can 166 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:35.240 download the whole thing on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes. Hey Jesse, 167 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:39.200 quick question about World War two dog fights? What are 168 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:44.240 your thoughts? I don't know why you would ask me 169 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:47.279 about flight and things like that when you should be 170 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:49.919 asking Gail Kane. And I'm so proud of us. 171 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:52.440 I really am proud of me because I never in 172 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:55.480 a gazillion years thought I could do this, and I 173 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:58.440 just saw video of us walking up the I don't 174 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:02.799 want to call plank, but what's the proper? What's the proper? 175 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:03.679 Do? 176 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:06.559 You gotta trust in yourself on this journey and then 177 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:08.679 you're feeling in love when you come down for sure, 178 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:11.840 and you're feeling fast strength. So I feel really connected 179 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:15.200 to that strong, divine feminine right now. 180 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:17.960 I sailed on my first try. 181 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:19.679 I just let the boat do the work. 182 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:24.159 That was my secret. I'm sorry, It's never gonna stop 183 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:26.840 being funny anyway. A right, So I don't have a 184 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:30.320 lot of thoughts on dog fights. Actually I take that back. 185 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:34.039 I have tons of thoughts on dogfights. But I am 186 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:36.799 not a pilot. Okay, so I need to stress that 187 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:38.679 that I am not a pilot. But I am, however, 188 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:42.039 a dude who's obsessed with warfare like every other dude is. 189 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:47.320 And one thing that I have learned is there's a 190 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:51.879 lot that goes into this stuff. I have a I'm 191 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:54.559 gonna see how delicate I can be answering this question. 192 00:11:55.639 --> 00:12:00.840 I have somebody I know very well who is a 193 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:07.159 current fighter pilot, like a big boy type, and to 194 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:11.799 hear him discuss it is fascinating. And we were having 195 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:14.240 to talk about this, about who wins, who doesn't win, 196 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:16.440 and stuff like that, and in fact, we were talking 197 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:19.240 about different kinds of jets. We were discussing our new 198 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:22.919 F thirty five versus this jet or that jet, and 199 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:25.159 he said, you know what F thirty five buys me? 200 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:28.840 I said, what he says about a quarter of a second. 201 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:32.279 And I said, okay, so you're not that impressed. He said, no, No, 202 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.159 A quarter of a second's everything. A quarter of a 203 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:38.080 second's me winning, and you die. It buys me time 204 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:42.559 you don't have. And a quarter of a second is 205 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:47.320 the difference between me being alive and you dying. So 206 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.320 I am actually going to I'll tell you what. I'll 207 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:56.200 give you a podcast that's not even mine that I'm 208 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:59.559 warning you now it might bore you, but you might 209 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:05.480 out on it. Elon Musk, who you obviously know. Elon 210 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:09.080 Musk is brilliant and beyond belief when it comes to 211 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:12.240 flights and engines and rockets. He's just one of these types. Okay, 212 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:16.200 you know who Dan Carlin is. Dan Carlin does a 213 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:18.919 bunch of history podcasts. Maybe you've listened to him, maybe 214 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:24.159 you haven't. Whatever, it doesn't matter. But Dan Carlin, I 215 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.080 can't point to you. I can't give you a link 216 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:27.840 because I don't know it. I don't have it in 217 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:29.799 front of me, So don't email me asking me to 218 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.279 do the work for you. Go find it. Dan Carlin 219 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:36.000 did a podcast with Elon Musk, and their topic of 220 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:40.440 discussion was it was actually about World War two planes 221 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:42.919 and things like that. And if you're not a reader, 222 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:44.960 I prefer to read this stuff. But if you're not 223 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:46.960 a reader and you want something kind of fed to 224 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:50.200 you audibly, which you probably enjoy, right, Otherwise he wouldn't 225 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:53.759 be listening to me, go download that. It's free, if 226 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:57.240 I remember right, it's free, at least it was. They 227 00:13:57.279 --> 00:14:00.320 describe things or Elon really does the heavy lifting, but 228 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:04.080 describing things that I honestly didn't even think of before. 229 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:08.279 There are planes, there are engines that they do really 230 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:12.919 really well up until they get too high, and then 231 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:15.720 they don't do well at a certain altitude. There are 232 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:18.399 planes that do better when they're diving versus planes that 233 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:22.200 can only rise so fast, like little things that non 234 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:25.279 pilots like me. Again, I know, I'm a lay person. 235 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:27.320 I know we have a bunch of pilots who actually listen, 236 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:30.240 commercial rate line pilots and fighter pilots. So don't email 237 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:31.960 me and yell at me because I'm an idiot. I know, 238 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:34.720 I don't know, but there are more things that go 239 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:38.159 into it than you can imagine. This plane was great, 240 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:41.960 but at a certain point it wouldn't work well if 241 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:44.080 you were trying to do this with it because it 242 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:47.720 couldn't dive. It's that angle. And they'll just talk endlessly. 243 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:50.919 You can nerd out about the different types of planes, 244 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.240 the different engines. Why was this one great? Why did 245 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:56.799 this one usually beat this one but this one lost 246 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:59.200 to that one. I will compare it in this way, 247 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:04.120 very very very much to a styles make fights type thing, 248 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:07.759 like an MMA, a UFC type thing, where one guy, 249 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:12.720 maybe his style is just uniquely tailored to beat the 250 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:15.919 guy across from him, but he can't beat the next guy, 251 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:19.200 who isn't necessarily better, he just has a different style. 252 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:22.919 So there's all kinds of different planes and wild things. 253 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:26.879 But also there's a second part of this, which I 254 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:32.960 really love. Pilot skill seemed to be it seemed to 255 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:36.399 be from everything I've read on it, seventy five percent 256 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:39.639 of it, sixty seventy five percent of it. Have you 257 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.679 ever remember these Medal of Honor citations we do every Monday. 258 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:47.080 We've done ones on pilots before, and the numbers are 259 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:50.559 a little eye popping sometimes, right when you see, wait, 260 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:52.759 one of our fighters went up and just he just 261 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:56.039 shot down six planes. What was every what were they 262 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:58.879 all doing? He would just charge Our pilots would just 263 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:02.039 charge one guy. He would charge twenty planes and he 264 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:04.120 wouldn't even die. I mean a lot of our guys 265 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:06.919 did dive. It wouldn't even die. He just mowed through six, 266 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:14.000 seven guys. He was so much better than the pilots. 267 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:17.679 He was facing so much more experience because America had 268 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:22.080 a really, really, really smart training cycle. We would take 269 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:24.799 our best pilots and instead of leaving them out there 270 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:27.960 untill they die, we would cycle them back into America 271 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:32.120 to train the next generation. With all that experience, we 272 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:36.159 just had better pilots and we would just mow through 273 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:39.320 the other side. Mo through the other side. Anyway, those 274 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:43.759 are my thoughts on dogfighting. Let's talk about Congress and coffee. Next. 275 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:48.399 It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Friday. And 276 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:52.320 asked doctor Jesse Friday. Before I get back to the questions, Uh, 277 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:56.000 Jewish producer Chris brought up the Medal of Honor citation 278 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:58.840 We read one time for Marine Corps pilot in World 279 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:03.200 War two Pacific James Elms sweat And I thought, even 280 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:05.279 though it's not Monday, I thought, just to kind of 281 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:07.880 prove a point about the fighter pilot thing, I thought 282 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:10.039 maybe we should do a little mini Friday edition. What 283 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:13.079 do you think? Oh, by the way, man is still 284 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:14.880 alive to this day? Chris said, he's over one hundred 285 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:20.039 one oh two. He's one o two, Chris, Chris, he's 286 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:24.799 actually dead. Did I just announce to everybody I'm Live 287 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:28.799 radio that the man is alive? And he's dead, Chris. 288 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:31.359 He died in two thousand and nine, so he's been 289 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:33.519 dead for a long time. It's like he's not even 290 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:35.799 a little bit dead. It's not that they can pull 291 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:38.599 out the paddles and shock him back to life. He's 292 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:42.119 actually been dead for almost two decades, and I just 293 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:46.640 told everyone he was alive. This is this is what 294 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:52.000 I work with here, honoring those he went above and beyond. 295 00:17:52.720 --> 00:18:01.240 It's Medal of Honor Monday. This is for a James 296 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:05.000 Elms Sweat born in Seattle, Washington. Also he is dead 297 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:08.599 for extraordinary heroism and personal valor above and beyond the 298 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:12.400 call of duty. As Division leader of Marine Fighting Squadron 299 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:16.640 two to two one with Marine air Aircraft Group twelve, 300 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:21.400 first Marine Aircraft Wing in action against enemy Japanese aerial 301 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:25.160 forces in the Solomon Islands area, seventh of April nineteen 302 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:28.720 forty three. In a daring flight to intercept a wave 303 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:34.119 of one hundred and fifty Japanese planes, League First Lieutenant 304 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:41.039 Sweat unhesitatingly hurled his four plane division into action against 305 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:48.240 a formation of fifteen enemy bombers and personally exploded three 306 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:52.480 hostile planes in mid air with accurate and deadly fire 307 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:57.119 during his dive, although separated from his division. While clearing 308 00:18:57.160 --> 00:19:01.720 the heavy concentration of anti aircraft fire, he boldly attacked 309 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:05.920 six enemy bombers, engaged the first four in turn, and 310 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:12.359 unaided shot down all in flames, exhausting his ammunition. As 311 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:16.200 he closed to the fifth enemy Japanese bomber, he relentlessly 312 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:21.400 drove his attack against terrific opposition, which partially disabled his engine, 313 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:26.480 shattered the windscreen, and slashed his face. In spite of this, 314 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:30.680 he brought his battered plane down with skillful precision in 315 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:34.640 the water off Tu Loggi without further injury. The superb 316 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:38.920 airmanship in tenacious fighting spirit which enabled First Lieutenant Swept 317 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:42.839 to destroy seven enemy bombers in a single flight, were 318 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:46.400 in keeping with the highest traditions of US naval serviants. 319 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:53.759 And I believe, if memory serves me, that it was 320 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:59.079 actually some tribesmen, some natives in canoes who went and 321 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:02.240 got him on an underrated I bet you there are 322 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:04.599 good books written about this. I've only read books that 323 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:07.279 weren't about it, who talked about it an underrated part 324 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:09.440 of World War Two in the Pacific were all these 325 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:14.240 islands the Japanese would take over all these islands, but 326 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:17.720 they didn't own every square inch of the island. There 327 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:23.160 were oftentimes tribal peoples tribes who were on the island 328 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:26.359 who didn't like the horrible Japanese oppression. Because you can 329 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:28.759 imagine how the Japanese would treat tribal peoples when they 330 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:33.240 ran into them, and they would aid the various British 331 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:37.119 and American guerrilla fighters. They would give us information, they 332 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:39.799 would rescue our guys, they would I mean, it's a 333 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:42.519 really cool part of World War Two. I'm surprised. I'm 334 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:44.799 surprised they haven't made a movie over something like that. 335 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:47.279 Oh well, hollyw would have probably screwed it up anyway. Jesse, 336 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:50.119 I know you grew up Republican but not overly political, 337 00:20:50.440 --> 00:20:53.480 and later ran for Congress as a conservative. But at 338 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:55.799 what point did you finally get the whole picture and 339 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:59.839 become a true anti communist? How did this transition happen 340 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:03.240 for I know you're mentally slow, so it gives me 341 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:06.680 hope for others. Just kidding, Thanks for sharing your experience. Okay, 342 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:10.799 So here's kind of my story for those who are 343 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:12.960 new to the show, and I realized there are many 344 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:15.400 that are new to the show. So, like he said, 345 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:17.759 I did not grow up in a highly political household. 346 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:20.480 We were just a construction family. That's all we did. 347 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:25.519 We were patriotic, though there was always that aspect to it. 348 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:29.559 And as I've said, the only political conversation I can 349 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:31.799 ever remember having with my parents was I asked my 350 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:35.000 dad once when I was I think it was kindergarten, Hey, 351 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:37.759 are we Democrats or Republicans? And he said, we're Republicans. 352 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:39.839 And that's the only thing he ever said. Okay, that's 353 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:43.319 the way it went. But we weren't hugely political. I 354 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:47.599 have always been a history freak, even as a child, 355 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:52.519 a small child, I was that nerd reading books. Read. 356 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:55.720 I love to read. I've always loved to read, hoovering 357 00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:58.480 up as much of that stuff as I could, and 358 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:02.640 join the Marines. Still not hugely political. I'm a Republican 359 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:06.200 at this point, but still not hugely political. I get 360 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:10.920 out of the Marines after four years, still not hugely political. 361 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:15.240 I go back to work in construction. I'm working out 362 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:19.519 of town. I'm working in a place called Ajo, Arizona. Ajo, 363 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:22.480 this tiny little town we're living in Tucson, Arizona. At 364 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:25.200 the time, aub and I, and I have all this 365 00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:28.079 extra time on the road, all this time on the roads. 366 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.559 I'm driving out of town. I've got this construction job. 367 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:36.440 So I start consuming books on tape and more political 368 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:39.000 radio just because it happened to be on at the time. 369 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:44.480 And I start consuming this stuff, and I start to 370 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:48.319 feel obligated to get involved politically. That's really what really 371 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:51.319 sparked my interest in it. I didn't like what was 372 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:54.839 happening to the country. I really did not like Barack Obama, 373 00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:58.319 and I wanted to get involved. So I ran for 374 00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:01.799 Congress twice. I don't know, I'd never been in office, 375 00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:04.160 I'd never run for anything, but I was just mad. 376 00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:07.839 Turns out I wasn't bad at it. I won the 377 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:11.839 Republican nomination twice for Congress. Can you believe that I 378 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:14.680 almost won the actual congressional seat. It was four thousand 379 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:17.799 votes separated Gabrielle Gifford's and I. So it was this 380 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:21.440 huge political run. Why after I get done losing, I 381 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:23.839 went back to DC for a year, worked in politics 382 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:26.200 for a year, hated living in that rude blue dump, 383 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:28.519 and I moved to Texas and just kind of walked 384 00:23:28.519 --> 00:23:31.359 away from politics. Really completely. For the most part, I 385 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:34.160 still followed it and read and stuff like that, but 386 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:36.559 I was selling RVs. I was just this is my 387 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:39.079 last job before I started doing this, just in the 388 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:41.880 regular civilian world, trying to pay the bills and make 389 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:48.519 ends meet, same way you're doing. I kept getting angrier 390 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:51.960 and angrier at really both sides, to be honest with you, 391 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:55.799 at the destruction of the country, about how they would 392 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.519 just tear through everything and spend all this money and 393 00:23:58.519 --> 00:24:01.119 open and do all these nakedly corrupt things. I got 394 00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:04.119 so angry that I couldn't freaking stand it. And then 395 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:06.640 if you're asking when I came from, how I came 396 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:10.839 from more of a traditional conservative to hardcore anti communists, 397 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:12.720 I don't think that's a big adjustment. By the way, 398 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:14.759 I don't know that I moved that much. If you 399 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:17.759 look at old videos of young Jesse running for Congress, 400 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:19.480 it said the same thing back then. It was twenty 401 00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:21.759