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Speaker 1: The paranormal, zufos, monsters, mysteries that you're listening to Talking

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Speaker 2: Host, doctor Dean Bertram.

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Speaker 4: Greetings on my fellow weirdos and weird ads. Welcome to

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Talking Weird on the Untold Radio Network. I'm your host,

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Dean Bertram. And whether you're watching me live tonight on

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of the show which drops every Friday after the Thursday

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night live thank you, greetings. I'm so glad you're here

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and you've decided to join me for tonight. I'm sorry

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if I sound a little congested or more nasal than

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usual tonight. I don't know what it is that I

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have ever had any problems with allergies when I lived

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in America for the first ten or more years. But

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maybe I've been exposed so much now this spring. The

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congestion I have is crazy. Maybe some of you have

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a cure. Maybe some of you who are used to

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these kind of northern allergies can drop me a hint

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or two in the chat. I sure would appreciate it,

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but I'm not going to let my sinuses and my

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allergies get me down tonight because I'm so happy. I'm

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so excited to have to have the guests back. We've

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had him on before. He's a multifactitate, a multifaceted. He

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has had rather a multifaceted career in the entertainment arts worlds.

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He trained in NYC under the esteemed William Alderson in

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the Meisner technique. His journey stage film and visual arts,

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and he returns to the show to chat about his

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gest release feature film, The Sascologist, which is absolutely fantastic

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and at won the Parma Dior Award at the festival

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I run Midwest Weird Fest. Not this last festival, which

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was the twenty twenty sixth one, but in twenty twenty

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five one that award, and rightfully so. It's amazing it's

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available now, to have been on the fest circuit for

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like the last year, finally available to watch. We're going

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to be talking about it tonight. Anybody who listens, watches,

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listens to a watches this show is going to adore it.

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It's it's critics are already hailing at the best Bigfoot

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movie ever made, and they think it is. It's just

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it's amazing and looks at because not only doesn't look

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at the Bigfoot mystery, it looks at the people who

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are obsessed with the mystery. And it's funny and it's

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clever and it's just a heartwarming ride. At any rate,

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I'm delighted to welcome back to Talking Weird the director

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and star of this asquologist, Joseph Grander. Hey, greetings, Oh

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are yeah, man, it's it's good to get to talk

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good to see you.

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Speaker 3: I guess last time I saw you it was I

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think it was eight degrees and I was walking back

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from the final screening of my film and in winning

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the Palmador, And what was great was learning about what

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the award was in.

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Speaker 5: The history of the of the man behind it and

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all that. So that was really cool.

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Speaker 4: Oh thank you. Yeah, I think as most listeners and

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viewers of the show, no, I'm I'm a massive fan

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of Raymond A. Palmer, and he was probably this State's

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most important person ever in the sci fi and the

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supernatural and the paranorm on the cryptosoological, even because some

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of the early Fate issues touched on those things too,

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recognize that the the partmer and his influence and his

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legacy and remember the man, and also to award excellence

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in the field to day and your film certainly deserves that, Joseph,

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as as do you. And it was a great joy

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having you at that first You were such a wonderful guest.

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retrospective Royal screen for Lynch with me too, because because

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you were you knew David and you used to be

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roommate of his daughter, Jennifer.

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Speaker 5: As an actor, screenwriter, whatever you could do.

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Speaker 4: Well, now not only you an actor screenwriter, you're saw

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Speaker 5: You know, like I said.

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Speaker 3: Before, last year, I went to four Bigfoot festivals and

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show it and I went to eight film festivals and

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hands down, and I've been to hundreds of film festives

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throughout my thirty something on career year career, and hands down,

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independently wise yours, the Midwest Weird Fest was the best.

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Speaker 5: Location, the camaraderie of all that.

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Speaker 3: I'm still I've made friends with some of the filmmakers

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when you make films at this level, you really need community,

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you really need to back each other up.

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Speaker 5: And just you know what, it reminded me of It reminded.

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Speaker 3: Me of in nineteen ninety four, I started a film

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called Amongst Friends that was at the sun Dance Film

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Speaker 5: And people who weren't famous and stuff.

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Speaker 3: And that's really the vibe that you get at your

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Speaker 4: Fest that I can't even I got shields when you

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told me that, I can't even kind even believe the

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kindness of your words. It's funny though, speaking about comparisons

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to Sundance. You were the second person who had a

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film at Sundance who told me that Mark Polish we

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did a film he directed and wrote maybe a couple

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of years before before we did this Aschologist, and he

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of course was in Twin Falls, Idaho with his brother

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and they were they were a big deal at Sundance,

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and he said, this town and this festival is what

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Sundance used to be like when it was still Indian cool.

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I went, thank you.

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year that's where the Sundance Film Festival is taking place.

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Speaker 5: From now on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fascinating that they've moved. What's the feeling in

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the industry over there about the move of the festival.

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Speaker 5: Oh, they're really excited here and they're in Boulder because

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they're all going to make a bunch of money renting

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their homes out for twenty five grand for a week.

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Speaker 3: The same cultural vibe that Sun Dance did. But I

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even know. Was that why they moved? Because the people

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didn't the locals didn't want it there anymore? Did the

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festival think gold it would be better.

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Speaker 3: I think it had something to do with, you know,

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Robert Redford passing away, and I think you know, I'd

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original location. Mind you, I don't think my understanding is

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the chance of you submitting an independent film to that

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festival these days and being selected is pretty slim. Unless

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you've unless you've already got sales agents and stars or

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studios or something attached the cold submission process. I've never

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Sundance and got into Sundance.

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Speaker 5: No, it's a it's an industry thing now.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Let's get to the Aschologists, because I know that's

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what everybody here wants to hear about. Anybody in the

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the the chat, who has any questions, please do fire them,

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fire them off. We haven't somebody else in the chat

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saying his brother's a playwright and love and love Sundance.

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He's seventy four. He probably got there in the good

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old days that Joseph and Mark Polish have told me about.

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Did you would you like me to play the trailer

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for the s Asquologists before we start talking about it.

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Speaker 3: And people can get an idea of its tone and

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tenor and and maybe even get a laugh.

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Speaker 5: Out of it tonight?

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Speaker 4: Okay? I will. And I ripped this from YouTube just

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I bet you the quality on YouTube will be high.

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off and you get staggering. So anybody who and anybody

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the trailer, they're just listening to the audio only version

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of the show. I do have a link to the

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as we'll get to is where you can watch the

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full film, as well as where you can visit the

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website for this asquologist. So now the.

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Speaker 5: Trailer, everybody, can you all hear me? Okay? Yes, yes, good?

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Speaker 3: Because when squatching, your ears are more important than your eyes.

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Speaker 4: What exactly are we're looking for?

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Speaker 6: That?

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Speaker 1: But bigger?

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Speaker 4: You're the big fer guy, something like that?

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Speaker 4: What are you looking at?

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Speaker 1: Kid?

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Speaker 5: It was wild man who it's a black bear.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to smell I smell it. Why do

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you hate people? I don't hate people. I just better

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Speaker 6: If it's just a warm body you want, maybe you

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should screw that monkey of yours.

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Speaker 2: It's not a monkey.

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Speaker 5: Earlier is odd time. All the time is late and

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late as never. Is that what you're wearing? Yeah, we're

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not partners.

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Speaker 4: You were my shirt.

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Speaker 6: People should get to know their shirts.

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Speaker 2: That's not squatch.

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Speaker 4: Squatch smells like asks?

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Speaker 5: What smells like? It's a figure's peaches. Yes, he's the

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Speaker 3: That's him, Big God.

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Speaker 5: I wish I had a choke him.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't get a good photo anyways?

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Speaker 1: Why is that pay?

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Speaker 5: But it's blurry?

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Speaker 4: You're an idiot.

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Speaker 5: Supernats of forces are keep making you from knowing the truth.

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You're not going away, are you? Do you ever think

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about leaving this place?

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Speaker 6: I used to think, well, if you stayed in one

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place long enough, everything you wanted would eventually come to you.

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That thing is going to drive you mad.

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Speaker 1: It's missing.

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Speaker 5: For one one, it was a portal to another realm.

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Speaker 4: No, it's got to be some other explanation.

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Speaker 3: Has Big Fat ever killed anyone?

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately?

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Speaker 4: No, who's trying to kill us?

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Speaker 5: Well, imagine the data that would bring. Okay, let's go.

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Speaker 2: You gotta go, you gotta go.

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Speaker 5: This way.

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Speaker 4: So great, Joe, Thanks, So I get maybe the best

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place to jump off. The conversation is what made you

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the community. It really encapsulates so much. So did you

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did you already have an interest in Bigfoot? Were you

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already aware of the community? Maybe just feel us in

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how this film came to be.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, listen, my my knowledge of Bigfoot was

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very general, like everybody else, you know, T shirts and

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be there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I sure am. I was just giving you the

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floor if I disappear, I should have told you. I'm

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just giving you the floor. I figure you'll tell a

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story for a little bit. They don't need to see

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my ugly face. They can watch you to I'm.

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Speaker 5: Looking at the camera anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know what it's what the what it's

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really about is.

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Speaker 5: To be My father left when I was ten years old, and.

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Speaker 3: That sort of sets a young man off on a

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quest to find that sort of replacement and that sort

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of empty space.

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Speaker 5: And you know, a lot of my life was sort

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of filling that space with it.

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Speaker 3: And that's because when you write a film, it should

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come from something personal, even though it ultimately becomes a.

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Speaker 5: Universal theme for people of loss and longing. And then.

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Speaker 3: So I started, I started interviewing squatchers out here in Colorado,

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and I went out with this very, very mustard seed

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of an idea, and this guy told me his whole

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life as I spent the day up in Bailey's squatching

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with him.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I learned everything about him, and at the

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end of the.

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Speaker 3: Day I had this connection that I didn't share at

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that point, and I said, do you think that maybe

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you're just out here looking for your old man?

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Speaker 5: And he just thought, wow, I never thought that.

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Speaker 3: And so that's the real genesis in the core of it.

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It's a film that is the longing for loss. I

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know that sounds very serious, but it's not. But it's

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ultimately in this search for Bigfoot and this older expert

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sasquatch tracker taking a young protege with him to learn

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the ways of squatching. Now, the conflict in that is

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that the old man, the older man is very grounded

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in science and he's an apor and the young kid

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he's got a UFO hat and he's really into the wu.

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Speaker 5: And so that's the general conflict, and throughout that they

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have to really find.

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Speaker 3: What it is they're looking for, not just in themselves,

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but in answers to which side of that camp of

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the squatch community that they're in. And what I did

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as I wrote this and then as I prepared and

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researched the part, is I really immersed myself with the

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Bigfoot community and I read every book you could possibly

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think of.

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Speaker 5: So when you see the movie, if you know.

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Speaker 3: Everything about Bigfoot, it's going to be reaffirmed with historical

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and scientific facts, both on the scientific side and then

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on the more metaphysical side, because I hung out with

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both of those camps, And if you don't know anything

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about Bigfoot, you're going to walk away with a PhD

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in sasquatchology.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a film that really feels like it was

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made by somebody with an incredible handle and an incredible

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background in this topic. So you clearly you clearly did

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your homework. Like if I knew nothing about what you

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just said, I would assume it was made by somebody

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and written by somebody who had been a Bigfoot fan

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from like you know, from day one, and had been

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in the community forever, because it really just encapitulates everything.

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Like you said, when you were, and we'll get to

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some other respects because I want to talk about the casting,

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I want to talk about the music, I want to

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talk about all kinds of things. But when you started

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to get a sense of that type of some of

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the different approaches or the schism in the Bigfoot community,

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because I know you're very aware of it, the Bigfoot

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in the community, who are people or rapers or people

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who are woo, did you start to feel more of

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a did you lean towards one way or more yourself for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a good question because as I researched it,

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I've vacillated on it, because as I was writing, I

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had to sort of reached both sides because as I

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met as I met both of these groups, I wanted

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to be able to be lighthearted but respectful to what

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people believe about about this because as you know, some

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people take this subject very seriously and listen, there's worse

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things that people could be doing in today's world then

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hiking through the forest looking for something that may or

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may not be there, that maybe the ether or maybe

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a gigantopithecus.

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Speaker 5: So that was my goal.

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Speaker 3: It didn't initially fall on one way or the other however,

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I operate out of a Christian worldview, so so that

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leads me towards miracles and supernatural and things beyond this

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world that can't be explained. And so I would have

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to say today that I end up more on the

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wou side. I would say if I had, if if

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a gun were held in my head, I would have

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to say that it's some sort of demon trickster to

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keep people from going to church on Sunday, that it

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has the ability to sort of come in and.

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Speaker 5: Out of actual form.

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Speaker 3: That's really that's really where I land based on some

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of the some of the people that I interviewed that

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you know, I talked to a neurosurgeon who was hiking

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with a buddy twenty miles in in Washington State, and

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there's nothing in it for him, but tell me this story.

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But you know, they saw they took pictures. I saw

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him of these big footprints that just all of.

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Speaker 5: A sudden just end.

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Speaker 3: They just end, like like the thing was just like

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leaped into the air or something. So and this guy's

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not a squatcher, he's not a squatter today, but he

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was like he got a hold of me as I

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was going through this process, I put the word out

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that I was doing research on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that a good friend of mine, Joshua

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Cutcheon and Timothy ran I, wrote two books a number

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of years ago, Part one and part two, called Where

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the Footprints End. I think with the time of those books,

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they're great books, and they really they really get into

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they get into the type of things you're talking about there.

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I mean, I think I certainly, I certainly lean into

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the WO as well, and but I lean into the WU.

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I think I don't normally use the term WO. I

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lean into the WU because I think many of these

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things UFOs, bigfoot, Virgin Mary, fairies, you know, all of

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these were strange apparitions spirits that people encounter. There tend

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to be a commonality through them. And often the commonality

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is that, you know, somebody says a UFO and a

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bigfoot right next to each other. Sometimes the commonality is

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just the stories have very similar components, like those books

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that the Cutchen and Timothy rememerate. Timothy Renner wrote, So,

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I tend to think that all of these things, the

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lack of physical proof for them, the way they as

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you said, footprints disappear in the middle of the field

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just almost like it is an apparition, it's somehow part

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of this world, it's somehow not part of this world.

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And so is everything which is in our mythology, from

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religious texts through fairy stories. These things come and go

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and interact with us as they will, and then they're

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gone and we never seem to we never seem to

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be able to pin down what they are. I think

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your film does an amazing job, by the way of

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and your character in the film, of capturing and demonstrating

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the type of personality or the type of person who

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the desire to prove any of these mysteries. And Bigfoot

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or aschology just happens to be. The Bigfoot research or

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Aschology just seems to be is just the half of this.

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But I think you could you could have that character

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in you know, you could have that character in ghost Hunting,

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or you could have that character in Eufology, like or

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there's an attraction to these things which we can't quite

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get a handle of, which sometimes I think drive people's obsession,

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you know, for the decades and decades.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And on that note, when the movie turns

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out to be successful, there'll be a sequel.

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Speaker 5: In fact, I already know what it's called. Oh wow,

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you want to hear what I haven't written.

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Speaker 4: I'd love to know if it was going to be

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a spoil.

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Speaker 3: And for those it's not a spoiler, but people who

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haven't seen it yet, they'll understand when they see the film,

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because if there's a sequel, it'll be called Sasquologists too.

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Speaker 5: Bigfoot in Ohio, Ah, very nice because the character.

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Speaker 3: That I play, Martin Boots, has a very specific opinion about.

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Speaker 4: Ohio that that that'd be fantastic. And incidentally, you so

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have you been following the Ohio news lately. There's all

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that there's been this big Bigfoot funeral there in the

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last couple of months, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which is the irony of that is pretty amazing.

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Speaker 4: You know, It's funny. I made a feature film which

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is still in post production in Ohio. I wrote and

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produced it and directed. My friend Carrie Proy had directed it,

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and another very good friend of mine, Steven Wills, produced

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it with me. And so I spent some time and

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in Ohio outside of Cleveland, in a very nice part

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of the world called Chagrin Falls. It's a beautiful outer

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suburb of Cleveland. Gorgeous, gorgeous area, one of the prettiest places,

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one of the pretty suburbs I've ever been to my life.

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But not in a million years would you think there

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was a sasquatch anywhere near Chagrin Falls. But I heard

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from the person who was our editor, who had grown

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up in Chagrin Falls, and I had moved to la

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and edited a number of like I think, just band

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movies and things, and then he came back to edit

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our film. He saw a sasquatch and Chagrin when he

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was a kid. And this is the weirder part of

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that story. My friend Kerry wanted to make a documentary

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about a guy who lived in the kind of poorer

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outskirts of Chagrin because Chagrin is a very rich, rich area.

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In the poorer type I don't even know if it's

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part of Chagrin or just outside of it. And this

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man it was known because I think he told a

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number of people had claimed that for years he had

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sasquatch visiting his house, and like you know, he was

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feeding them and leaving things for them. And if you

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go to Chagrin Fall, sure there's woods and things around it,

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but you can't. It's not like the Pacific Northwest. It's

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difficult to believe that there's a population of bigfoot living there.

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But people have these encounters, and that again leads a

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little bit more to the metaphysical. I think that people

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have bigfoot encounters in suburbs. So you make that Ohio one,

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because I'd love to see, Sorry, what was that?

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Speaker 3: There's lots of encounters here in Colorado. I think when

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they start showing up in New York and La on

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the streets, that's when we're really gonna behind it something.

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Speaker 4: Well, it might it mightn't be too long. Now, we

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have a question for you from who Horror Smith is

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obviously just watched the trailer. Horror Smith is Professor Emeritus

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of Physics and Astronomy at Michigan State University. He's a

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good friend of mine and a good friend of the show,

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and he's been on the show as a guest in

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the past. And he asks, was youmor a part of

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the film from its conception?

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say humor, but I would say light heart

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heartedness because the central themes of it. There's some very

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emotional core parts of this movie, but the central themes

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are fathers and sons, and that can be very weighty

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and very heavy. So yes, I surrounded it with with

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with characters. Now, the thing about my goal with this

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movie that I'm so proud of the most is that

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my goal was to make it look and feel like

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a classic nineteen nineties independent film, you know, Richard Glinkletter

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and people like that. And from the feedback I've gotten

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and how I feel about it, I know I pulled

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that off. So when you're going to do a movie

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with humor, you have to play the humor as drama,

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and that way doesn't come across as so.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean I would say that it was.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't totally, but the latter parts were specifically written

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that way to sort of bring some levity to the moment.

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Speaker 5: And it's easier.

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Speaker 3: It's easier to I think, to have an open mind

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about things you might not be into.

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Speaker 5: If if, if you're able to laugh your way into it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think it and a lot of

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00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,200
the comedy situational in there as well, which is great,

476
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,480
but it does make me think about films from the nineties.

477
00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:31,920
It also makes me think of Hell Hartley's movie particular,

478
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,440
Your Hell Hartley's films, particularly your dancing sequence, right, because

479
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,799
Hartley would often have those dance sequences, or we had

480
00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:40,400
it in a couple of his movies, and it had

481
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,440
that kind of feel to it as well, which was great.

482
00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:44,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that was that was improvise.

483
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: I wrote that kind of made that up the night

484
00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:51,359
before because I knew that we were going to have

485
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:54,960
time while we waited for the cast to come out

486
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,839
to my property. That's where we shot that the big

487
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:03,960
dome that you've seen it. So I said, I've got

488
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,000
an idea, and so we put that song on. I

489
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:10,359
grabbed a broom and I just did some of the

490
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,359
old vaudeville dancing and you know, I've had my time

491
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,440
on Broadway and it turned out well. But what really

492
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:19,640
made it work was the song. And the music in

493
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,319
this film is from a band in Michigan, which oddly enough,

494
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,559
is a father and son band called Streaking in Tongues

495
00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:31,200
and you can find them on Apple or Spotify Streaking

496
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:31,720
in Tongues.

497
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 5: So I've been listening to these.

498
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,599
Speaker 3: Guys for a while. I love their music, and so

499
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,440
I just I got a hold of him, the lead

500
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,119
singer of the dad. I said, listen I've listened to

501
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,440
your music for a long time. I paid for all

502
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,839
your albums. I would love to put some.

503
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 5: Of your songs in my movie, but I don't have

504
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,160
a lot of money.

505
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 3: That said, I always insist on paying artists something anything

506
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,640
I can. And I said, I sent them some foot agents,

507
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,319
what do you think And he came back and said,

508
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,359
you can use as many songs as you want, just

509
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,960
pay me one hundred dollars a song. And then so

510
00:27:09,079 --> 00:27:11,359
also I said, you know, in a couple of months

511
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,319
the soundtrack will come out, and you know, any money

512
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:15,920
that he makes from that, I'm like, that's all, that's

513
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,640
all yours. So yeah, music is really important. That was

514
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,119
just you know, the hand of God was all over

515
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,160
this movie. If you've been there, there were days we're like, oh, man,

516
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,400
this is great. Maybe are you like, oh this is

517
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,279
terrible or is it?

518
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 5: And so we just had to keep rolling with it.

519
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 3: But I think the most important thing is that everybody

520
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:40,039
that was there at the time had a good time.

521
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,799
Speaker 5: I think that shows up in the spirit.

522
00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:46,519
Speaker 4: Of the movie. It absolutely does. And that music is fantastic.

523
00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:50,440
And that person you were talking to is Ronnie Ferguson. Yes, Ronnie,

524
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,920
who was a director of a film, a documentary that

525
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,240
we played at Midwest Weed Fist a couple of years

526
00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:01,240
before you Bigfoot and Marty Yeah so.

527
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,799
Speaker 7: And the funny thing actually, the poem that my character

528
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,279
reads in the Sasquologist is Marty's poem, because I talked

529
00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:15,559
to him too and I said, your poem is perfect?

530
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 5: Can I use it?

531
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 4: And he was like, lawyers, fantastic. They're so great. They

532
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,960
were great guests as well. And the funny thing is,

533
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,559
I don't think you knew that I don't. I don't

534
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:28,839
think you knew they played at Midwest Interest and when

535
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,960
even though I was vaguely familiar with their music, when

536
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,079
I watched this Aschologists and Marty's poetry, I didn't put

537
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,319
you know, two and two together either until I think

538
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,119
later you told me. I can't even remember how I

539
00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:40,839
found it. I think you told me or something. I

540
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,440
was like, wow, but just just so strange. I guess

541
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,519
the big Foot filmmaking community is as small as one

542
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:52,039
than we might think speaking of Bigfoot films, and that

543
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:54,599
doesn't necessarily have anything to do with yours, although maybe

544
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,519
it will going forward, as I think it may have

545
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:00,000
a serious impact on the community.

546
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 5: What.

547
00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it yet. I don't know if you've

548
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,680
seen it yet or not, because it's not widely available.

549
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,759
I know it played south By Southwest. But but what

550
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:09,240
are your thoughts or what do you know about Capturing

551
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,920
Bigfoot the documentary.

552
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,839
Speaker 5: I think it's horseshit. Here's why, and I'm and that's

553
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:23,000
not and that's not that's not from the point.

554
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:26,119
Speaker 3: Of view of a of a of a squatcher or

555
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,079
somebody who's well known in the Bigfoot community. Although when

556
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:32,480
this movie gets going, I may be I mean, maybe

557
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:34,599
I'll become to ask to speak at some of the conferences.

558
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:41,920
Is as a filmmaker, if I had something that explosive,

559
00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:44,440
they only showed it once, and they showed it it

560
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:49,519
south By Southwest. Nobody picked the movie up for distribution,

561
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,599
and as far as I know today, no one has

562
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,200
picked up the distribution for that movie, which to me

563
00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:00,640
seems that there's something problematic in what they're claiming, because

564
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,359
if you're a film company and you pick up a

565
00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:05,319
film like that claiming it to be something that ultimately

566
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:06,680
is going to.

567
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 5: Kind of kind of kind of slander some people.

568
00:30:11,799 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: I know.

569
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,519
Speaker 5: There's a thing too where they they.

570
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: Kind of ambushed Bob Gimlin and when he was in

571
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:19,839
not the greatest state, isn't you know?

572
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,599
Speaker 5: He's still kicking, but he's an older guy.

573
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: So I'm very skeptical that they have anything anything real.

574
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,599
If that's really what it was, it would be like

575
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,279
proving the Zabruta film was fake or something. You know.

576
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 5: So, uh, I highly doubt it.

577
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:41,799
Speaker 4: Okayd of no, that's that's interesting coming from somebody somebody

578
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,319
else in this kind of space. Have you found that

579
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:47,559
since you've finished the film, because now it's actually like

580
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:50,279
it's released, so it's it's uh, and we'll talk about

581
00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:52,880
that because it's only been like I know again, it

582
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,599
was a festivals for like a year, which is fantastic,

583
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,400
but it's only been out for a little over a

584
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,759
week now. It was available for the general public rud.

585
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just a.

586
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: So it played at some small film some small theaters

587
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,599
around the country last year long with the festivals, and

588
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:12,799
then right now we have an exclusive deal with Merkle Films,

589
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:15,240
so you can rent it now or buy it at

590
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:18,599
merkelefilms dot com, which is Tony Merkle. He's a podcaster,

591
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:25,279
very successful, good person out of Tennessee who has a

592
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:28,960
podcast called The Confessionals, So he was he was sort

593
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,640
of a background.

594
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 5: Producer on it.

595
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, And I have a link again to that.

596
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:37,079
If people are if people are watching or listening to

597
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:38,559
the show, just go to the show notes and you

598
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,079
can click right through where you where you can acquire

599
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:44,599
that film. But now now that you're kind of you're

600
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,599
the distribution point, now it's you know, it's it's it's

601
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,759
kind of changed from you being on the circuit. And

602
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:54,279
I guess talking at places Bigfoot friendly places that played it,

603
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:57,599
I'm guessing I would have asked you are you? But

604
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,279
I'm now I'm guessing because you're talking about maybe making

605
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:02,799
a sequel, you're still kind of positioning yourself in the

606
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:05,880
Bigfoot space a little bit. You're still keeping in contact

607
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,960
with it and what's going on.

608
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, I.

609
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: Don't know if anybody of Sarah and John Brown of

610
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,440
the Bigfoot community.

611
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,559
Speaker 5: They've got a property in Washington.

612
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,359
Speaker 3: That I've been been to, you know, I hung out

613
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:19,640
with them.

614
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I still I still talk to some of those people.

615
00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: Jimmy Tongue, he's a new squatcher out there that's coming

616
00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:29,519
around so yeah, so I mean because I may friends,

617
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,519
I don't have time to go out squatching anymore. I'm

618
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:36,920
in the process of prepping my next film. But but yeah,

619
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,799
there are a great, great bunch of people big.

620
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: Barbecue, I bet, can can you talk about your next film?

621
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,680
Because I'm guessing that isn't The Bigfoot in Ohio or

622
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,920
The Asqualogist in Ohio.

623
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,279
Speaker 5: No, No, that would only do The Bigfoot Ohio.

624
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: If if this, when this movie is a big hit,

625
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,680
I'd love to grow a beard again and get to it.

626
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:02,359
So but first on that note, what what I would

627
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:04,759
love to do? And then I looked into was and

628
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,160
I had some leads. Is I would really love to

629
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:14,240
do a serious drama about Patterson, because that's a whole

630
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:17,079
story him seeing that and him you know, he took

631
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,000
the film and he took it to Hollywood. He tried

632
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,240
to get Hollywood let him have theaters to show it,

633
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:23,440
and he rented out theaters low and then he owed

634
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:23,960
money to.

635
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,079
Speaker 5: The mom and there's a there's a great story behind

636
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:26,359
all that.

637
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: But the film I'm working out in right now is

638
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,839
called Out of the Flat Irons, and it's a it's

639
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:34,880
about a struggling dad who's sent off on a hero's

640
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,160
journey to reunite his family and save a town that

641
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,279
doesn't want him there. There's a big flood in it.

642
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:46,519
And but what happens on this journey is that it's

643
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:48,799
not a faith based movie. But something about you know,

644
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:51,119
from my faith is that we never talked about is

645
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:53,920
although they talk about it in the big Foot community

646
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,599
and on your on your show, is the spiritual aspects

647
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,720
of the life that are surrounding us constantly in this

648
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:00,599
sort of battle.

649
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,599
Speaker 5: You know, we'd like to talk about.

650
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: Miracles from the past or demons and stuff, but we

651
00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:08,719
oftentimes forget that those things are happening around us all

652
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,599
of the time, whether they're actual miracles or mechanical miracles,

653
00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:16,199
which are miracles that can be explained, but still they

654
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,679
appear as miracles. So is it a miracle just because

655
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,000
we can explain it or not? And so so he

656
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,280
goes on this quest. It's another wilderness adventure along with

657
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,840
a giant flood, and it's a much bigger budget. I've

658
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,880
got some a couple of movie stars that are interested,

659
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,920
and it's all about timing and money, and so.

660
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,519
Speaker 4: We'll see Oh wow, yeah, no, I can't wait and

661
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:44,519
I do think, I do think that in this reality

662
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:47,239
that so many of us live in, which is, you know,

663
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,199
I don't know, get up, clean your teeth, go to work,

664
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,119
come home, eat dinner, binge Netflix, go to sleep, get up,

665
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:57,960
clean your teeth, repeat, like just you know, forever that

666
00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:01,679
it's very easy to lose, is touched with a bigger

667
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,119
spiritual reality. And to be honest, I think that's the

668
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:10,360
real value of things like Bigfoot and UFOs and apparitions

669
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,480
and other things is maybe those things are knocking on

670
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,840
these kind of you know, office cells or apartments we live,

671
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,360
and they're literally pounding on the doors, you know, saying

672
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:25,920
there's more to this reality than what you were living.

673
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,800
And so that's why I think so many of these

674
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,840
pursuits are actually healthy in a way, particularly in a

675
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:37,840
society where the mainstream church has often fallen away from

676
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:43,320
its traditional duties of explaining that there's a broader spiritual

677
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,559
reality and not just the spiritual reality, which we know

678
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,599
is the most important one. The idea about you know,

679
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,519
the traditional Christian message which you'll get at most churches

680
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:53,800
of you know, Christ dying for your sins and these things. Sure,

681
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,400
that's important and the most important, of course, But if

682
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:01,920
we don't talk about a order spiritual reality in any sense,

683
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,239
if we just ignore these other things, people can still

684
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,039
just go through life thinking they're living in a very

685
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,119
materialistic world and not understand that there are other forces,

686
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:14,840
there are other things acting on this reality. And I

687
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,880
think that's the value of a lot of these a

688
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,719
lot of these stranger what some people might consider stranger pursuits,

689
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,880
you know, interest in bigfoot, interest in UFOs, interest in spirits.

690
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:28,880
That these things tend to point and wigh and suggest

691
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,440
that reality isn't exactly what you think it is.

692
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I mean I think we get we're when

693
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,239
we're too focused on the material, we're not able to

694
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:43,960
see the material that's around us that's helping us. Now,

695
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:45,840
I'm not recommending.

696
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:50,679
Speaker 3: Reaching out for the darker size of things, because if

697
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,559
you search for the dark, it'll certainly more than happy

698
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:58,320
to enter your home and put up shot. As you

699
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,599
know from the shows that you've on, and and this

700
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,320
spiritual element is in there. In the Sasquagists, there's a

701
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,960
very specific conversation not only is my character Martin grounded

702
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,559
in science, and and then that the young kid is

703
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:17,880
much more wou and he's clearly a Christian the way

704
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,079
he talks about certain things, and there's some tension there

705
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:21,880
on that, but I don't want to give it away,

706
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:27,239
but I think I think in the end it's understood.

707
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 5: By by both of them. What's going on?

708
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: No, that's something else talk about, talk about that relationship

709
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,239
between you and what's the actor's name? I forgot I

710
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,119
used to know. I forgot what.

711
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,159
Speaker 6: Right?

712
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,039
Speaker 4: And think all the character's name would be just.

713
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:51,599
Speaker 3: Swarts his last I don't know why his first name

714
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:52,480
is skipping me right now?

715
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 4: Sometimes they sometimes I can look it up with Brandon

716
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,760
Brandon Schwarts, because that's it's such a wonderful juxtaposition and

717
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,679
such a wonderful relationship between the two characters in the film.

718
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,159
How did you find how did you find that young actor?

719
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: And you know.

720
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 4: What, how did you develop the the very there is

721
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,519
a great career, there is a great charismatic interaction. There's

722
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:18,519
a great chemistry between the two of you in that

723
00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:19,840
movie and the siscologist.

724
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:23,199
Speaker 5: Yes, so he is such a talented kid.

725
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 3: He's written screenplays and he's done his own short films

726
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,280
that he's.

727
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 5: Written and directed.

728
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: And so he was at a film festival a film

729
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:34,079
event in Florida, and he met these two guys that

730
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:36,639
I had worked with on a TV show I get

731
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,800
called Breaking Laws, and.

732
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 5: They said, you should meet this guy Joseph.

733
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,519
Speaker 3: He's looking for a young actor for this film he's

734
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:50,480
getting ready to do well. It turns out that Brandon

735
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:53,360
lived in Denver, which is about twenty miles from my house.

736
00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:55,199
Speaker 5: So they hooked us up.

737
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 3: And I had been interviewing other actors and stuff, and

738
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,559
so I took him to I met him at in

739
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:04,280
Bottom luncht in and out Burger, and we were just

740
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,760
sitting there, just hanging out and eating burgers and talking.

741
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 5: And uh, I knew immediately, like this this is the kid.

742
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,559
But I still had to put him through the through

743
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:18,840
the test of you know. So we auditioned him. I

744
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,039
did some scenes.

745
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:24,519
Speaker 3: With him, and and and finally I just said.

746
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 5: Uh, so, do you want to be in a movie?

747
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,719
He's like really? And he was great.

748
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: I really looked for actors that had some some some

749
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:36,679
theater background because in my experienced, theater actors taking a

750
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,679
little bit more seriously and they usually always know their alliance,

751
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,119
which is very important when you're doing the low budget

752
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:45,400
film because you only get one or two, maybe three

753
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,920
takes and then you got to move on.

754
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,559
Speaker 5: So that was that was really beneficial.

755
00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: And then there's another guy in the film, uh, Kevin Claytman,

756
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,000
who's a stand up comic. You could probably find his name,

757
00:39:57,079 --> 00:39:59,440
Kevin Claytman. He's got he's got some he's got a bunch.

758
00:39:59,320 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 5: Of videos, me too.

759
00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: So he plays one of the sort of he has

760
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,840
a very he has a very important role in the

761
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,199
movie that I don't want to give away because it's

762
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,800
kind of an easter egg. And then the girl who

763
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,880
plays my girlfriend in the movie. Oddly enough, when I

764
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,920
went to Jim who owns the Sasquatch out Post in Bailey,

765
00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:22,480
to ask him, I said, I wrote a part for

766
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:25,719
you in this movie, and I'd love for you to

767
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,480
do it, and I'd love to have four hours of

768
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,920
shooting in your museum.

769
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,599
Speaker 5: And he read it and he's like, don let's do it.

770
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:34,440
So he's in the movie. He's got the cowboy hat.

771
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 3: But as I was talking to him, I'm very good

772
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,320
with getting people to work with me over foods, because

773
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:47,039
I bought him lunch two. He goes, you know, do

774
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:49,039
you need a do you need a woman in her

775
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,760
mid late thirties. I'm like, yeah, kind of, kind of, yeah,

776
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,519
he goes, I got a girl who works for me

777
00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:57,039
at the front desk once a week and she's an actress.

778
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,800
And so there it was Elijah fish Sure who actually

779
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,039
is a children's offer author and has written a bunch

780
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:06,840
of kids adventure books about Bigfoot.

781
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 4: Wow.

782
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Lajah Fisher.

783
00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 4: Well there you go. And you said the owner of

784
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,880
that was what was his name, Jim?

785
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 5: Jim. I don't know Whay's name is me, Yeah, because

786
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,719
that's what in Bailey, Colorado.

787
00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:28,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, flat Rockland. Also, his real name is Matt Auckland.

788
00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:30,159
He's a good friend of the show and mine. He's

789
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,519
been on the show too. He lives he lives in

790
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:35,199
the Pacific Northwest. He just wrote, Jim is great, so

791
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,880
he obviously knows. He obviously knows the owner of that

792
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:44,679
museum as well. Yeah, which is which is fantastic. You

793
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,480
know one thing, and this is more for me than

794
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:49,639
for the audience. It interests me because when I was

795
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:51,000
in Sydney and I hung out with a lot of

796
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,440
actors and I dated actors, actresses and demise the technique

797
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,760
always seem fascinating to me and you're it's obviously so

798
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,679
important to you because it's actually in your bio that

799
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:02,639
you would trained in the master technique. Is that something

800
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:05,039
you can just talk a little bit about it for

801
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:06,639
a couple of minutes for my gratification.

802
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:12,199
Speaker 5: Yeah. So here's what's interesting is that I studied the

803
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:16,800
Mesner technique with Sanford Meisner briefly and then William Alderson

804
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:20,199
in New York, and then I also study the method,

805
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,519
and I'll get to that because I use the method.

806
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,519
Speaker 3: More for my own scenes in the film where I

807
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:27,039
was kind of by myself or where I have to

808
00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:27,400
be real.

809
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 5: Emotional, I'll tell you the difference.

810
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,599
Speaker 3: So I teach acting for kids out here at private schools,

811
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:37,480
and I always say the first and most important thing

812
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:39,760
for an actor is to be a good listener. And

813
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,400
the Meisner techniques teaches you to take all of the

814
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,920
focus off of yourself and on your partner. And the

815
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,760
more present you are and the more that you can

816
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,119
listen to them, the more you can answer them truthfully

817
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:58,440
and spontaneously, which also works really good in a marriage.

818
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 5: So so that's the basis of that. Now, in the

819
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,360
Meisner technique.

820
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 3: They train you to not use personal experiences to get

821
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,800
to emotional states. They want you to create imaginary circumstances

822
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:20,119
where you can then live in that moment based on

823
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:23,400
an imaginary circumstance. Now, people always think that the method

824
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,639
actor is is an actor who walks around the set

825
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:28,480
all day long pretending like they're that person.

826
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 5: That's just narcissism.

827
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:37,519
Speaker 3: The primary difference, and both of these Meisner and Santislovsky

828
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:42,079
knew each other, these these two schools of acting. The

829
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:47,119
method actor tells you to use your own personal experiences

830
00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:53,320
from your past or pains and and use those as

831
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,760
the start off point. The sort of ping of the

832
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,039
emotion that you're going to use in in the in

833
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:01,360
in whatever it is you're doing, would have worked. I

834
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,960
went that route because it was more effective to me

835
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,039
because I was making a movie that was sort of

836
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:11,119
about the loss of my father as a young kid,

837
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,559
and I was able to get to those things faster

838
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,639
knowing that I would only have a couple of takes

839
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:21,800
to do these things. And it's difficult, and it's why

840
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,320
you see some actors that use that process. They're just

841
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,599
they're out of their minds. I won't I won't name names,

842
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:29,280
but you can you can find them they're just because

843
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,480
it makes it really screws you up. In fact, if

844
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,199
my wife were here right now, she could attest to that,

845
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,400
because it took me about two weeks to shed this

846
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:40,800
character off of me in this heavy weight. So I

847
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,679
would walk around the house. It's just like the sort

848
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:45,639
of little little dark black hole floating around the house

849
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:48,400
as I was shedding these these emotions off of me. Actually,

850
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,719
my wife calls it my artistic temperament. I'm sure some

851
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,519
of the people I've worked with too, But you know,

852
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,480
artists are artists. We can rub people the wrong way.

853
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:00,960
So it's as long as you come back and say

854
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,760
I'm sorry, and you know, but on that note too,

855
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,559
is so now when I have that sort of vibe

856
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:10,320
going on, I just say that I'm to let my

857
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,480
wife and my daughter know.

858
00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 5: It's got nothing to do with them. I just say

859
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:15,960
I'm walking my black dog. I actually have a tattoo

860
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:20,639
right here of Winston Churchill walking his black dog.

861
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: Because Winston Churchill his staff during the war would think

862
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,159
that they did something wrong, and he would have all

863
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:31,440
this pressure and weight and emotion on him, not only

864
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,840
from his past but from what was going on, and

865
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,360
it was sort of.

866
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,079
Speaker 5: A melancholy darkness you would carry around.

867
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: And so he would just tell them I'm walking my

868
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,920
black dog today, so they could go on about their

869
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,360
business and go, We've not done anything wrong. And then ultimately,

870
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,880
when you're able to realize that you're walking your black

871
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,920
dog and you go, okay, it is me. Everybody knows

872
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,840
it's not about them. Once you take the dog for

873
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,480
the walk, it just goes away. It comes back, it

874
00:45:59,559 --> 00:46:01,719
comes back, but it goes away for a while.

875
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,079
Speaker 4: I'm going to have a follow up question about about

876
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:09,800
acting in a minute, but Matt Auckland flat Rockland just

877
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,840
said Jim Myers is his name, and apparently I should

878
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,599
have known this. He actually he did just have a

879
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:17,079
show on the network we're on now, the until radio network,

880
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,159
Sasquatch Outposts. So it's a small world.

881
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, and his wife Dafty nice people.

882
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: Huh.

883
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,039
Speaker 4: There you go. So what's it like directing yourself? Like,

884
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,719
are there are there any checks and balances where you

885
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,079
have to step back and try to take that you know,

886
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,320
let go of the black dog or take off that

887
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,320
hat for a minute, and or I'd just love to

888
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,440
know your process doing both at the same time.

889
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it.

890
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: Was really a lot of preparation, so I knew my

891
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,960
lines and most everybody else is inside and out.

892
00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:53,519
Speaker 5: It helped that I had written the script.

893
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:57,199
Speaker 3: For you know, eight nine months, so as the leader

894
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,920
of the ship, I had to be the most prepared.

895
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:07,960
So one of the things I did is my first

896
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,639
film is a movie. You can rent it for free

897
00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:11,679
on Amazon now. It's a nice you can watch it

898
00:47:11,679 --> 00:47:13,679
with all your Actually this is a family friendly film.

899
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,599
To the word the word shit is in it twice.

900
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:18,000
I think, which you could hear walking to the store.

901
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 5: Is that.

902
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,639
Speaker 3: My first assistant director on my first film, Joey Lopez,

903
00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:27,719
is a great guy. I had him there with me,

904
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:31,400
so knowing that I was gonna have to direct myself,

905
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,000
I really went to him because I was confident enough

906
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:38,440
in my skill as an actor to say, listen, just

907
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,679
tell me if it needs to be more or less

908
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,960
on the next take. And that's kind of what we did.

909
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:47,280
But I found a pretty happy, happy medium. I can

910
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,400
watch the film and which there was things I did differently,

911
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,840
but and I just had to trust the process and

912
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,960
the people around me, my cinematographer, my second camera my

913
00:47:57,079 --> 00:48:02,079
sound guy, my my my wife, around the catering you know,

914
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,840
and just pulling in talent where I saw it, because

915
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,039
you know, eighty percent of directing is in the casting,

916
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:12,039
and so I cast.

917
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,599
Speaker 5: This movie really well. I cast it with actors that

918
00:48:14,639 --> 00:48:15,800
I worked with before.

919
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 3: There's some people in the movie that are not actors,

920
00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:24,199
but like the Hamburger place, the Hungry Moose, caboose, the

921
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,840
woman initially there, they own it, her and her husband,

922
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,280
and I said, I'll put you in a movie.

923
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,599
Speaker 5: Can we shoot here and we'll eat our crew will

924
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:31,360
eat here that day.

925
00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 4: She's great, by the way.

926
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,119
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so that was a blessing. I also h

927
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:41,679
my daughter's in the movie. Of course, she's two years

928
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:44,440
older now, three years older. Now, she's the girl who

929
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,480
works at the Sasquatch out post that comes in and

930
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:50,239
rolls her eyes at me. Hey, guess what, you're not

931
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,280
going to school tomorrow? She goes, why I go, because

932
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,840
you're gonna save me five hundred bucks and you're seen, and.

933
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 5: So she enjoyed. Oh she's a great she's a great kid.

934
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

935
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,639
Speaker 3: What's interesting is when you're in this business, people find

936
00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:10,880
it interesting, except your kid is like, yeah, that's what

937
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:16,119
my dad does. And then and then uh oh yeah,

938
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:18,360
it's my birthday today. That's my wife, she's watching.

939
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 4: I meant to say happy birthday to you because I

940
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,800
knew that as well. Happy birthday to you, Joseph myself

941
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,039
as well, and.

942
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 3: So on the on the Also on the trailer that

943
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,280
you watched, the last two women that come running through,

944
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,960
the one in the front, that's my wife. So she

945
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,719
she saved me two hundred dollars that day. Yeah, that's

946
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:48,199
my wife right there coming, that's my daughter. It was

947
00:49:48,199 --> 00:49:49,119
a family affair.

948
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 4: I love this just quickly. I just.

949
00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: Is that, uh, you know, all of these things take more,

950
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,880
and when somebody gives you their money to make a movie,

951
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,920
they're putting in a tremendous amount.

952
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 5: Of trust in you.

953
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 3: And my producing partner executive producer on this, Caleb M.

954
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,239
Moore was just uh, he was He's one of those

955
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,719
guys that if he says he's going to do something,

956
00:50:20,639 --> 00:50:21,199
he does it.

957
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:27,199
Speaker 5: And I presented this, this this script to him and budget.

958
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 3: And and basically he said, if you could do it

959
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,119
for that much, I'll fund it.

960
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 5: And and that's exactly what happened.

961
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:43,119
Speaker 3: And so you know, without his financial input and his

962
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:46,199
guidance along the way, he was very good at sort

963
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,519
of massaging partnerships that we had to deal with in

964
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:53,760
between distribution and and you know, personalities and all that

965
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,280
kind of stuff. None of this would have happened. It

966
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,360
just wouldn't have happened. And so and I know he's

967
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,920
pleased with it, and in fact, he was so pleased

968
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,880
with it that when we gave the first cut, he

969
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:07,840
really kind of said, if I gave you more money,

970
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:08,159
can you.

971
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 5: Make it better? And in movies, the answer to that

972
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,880
is always yes, And then you got to tell them

973
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:15,440
how how you can make it better?

974
00:51:17,559 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 4: Well, no, I think I think he placed a good

975
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:20,920
bet on you, and you'll film man.

976
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope it makes a ton of money because

977
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,360
I'm in debt from it.

978
00:51:26,519 --> 00:51:30,079
Speaker 3: That's put any money into it. But but the time

979
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,840
and effort, I've never worked so hard in all my

980
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:39,559
life on anything I've done. And so Lord willing, should

981
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:42,440
it be his will, this has great success and leads

982
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,159
me to other things along with Caleb and everybody else

983
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:49,920
who's involved in this movie should be very proud of it.

984
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 4: Is that something you're going to do forget a minute about,

985
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,000
because A you're obviously going to if you make the

986
00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:58,360
sequel of this asqualogist. Will will you act in star

987
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,440
and feature film in future films as well? Like do

988
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,159
you like wearing both of those heads?

989
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 5: You know, I think I might in this next tilm.

990
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,119
I might play a little role just because because because

991
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:13,480
I want you. But I don't know. I don't know

992
00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:14,480
that I would do that again.

993
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 3: It's really exhausting and emotionally and mentally, and it's a

994
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:19,360
stream of the family.

995
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:21,199
Speaker 5: I don't think.

996
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 3: People and I don't want to, you know, I don't

997
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,079
want to make it sound like I've been to Vietnam,

998
00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:32,840
but but it's it's difficult, it's it's.

999
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 5: It's to.

1000
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,199
Speaker 3: Do it well is a lot of work. It's a

1001
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,239
lot of preparation and and it and it does. It

1002
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,480
really grades on you. And and I feel confident that

1003
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:45,719
I did it right because I gave one hundred and

1004
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,440
ten percent and really that's.

1005
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 5: You know.

1006
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,679
Speaker 3: I did another interview and they said, what do you

1007
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,159
hope people get out of your movie? And it's very simple.

1008
00:52:53,199 --> 00:52:57,519
I hope that you're entertained, you know, whatever else you

1009
00:52:57,559 --> 00:52:59,880
get out of it. There's a bunch of easter eggs

1010
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:00,559
and a movie.

1011
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 5: You know, if you.

1012
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,119
Speaker 3: Look, there is a big foot in every scene of

1013
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:07,800
this movie. You have to look for it. I'm not

1014
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,920
going to tell you where they are, but but he's there.

1015
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:18,039
Speaker 4: So yeah, well it certainly entertaining. I know I was entertained.

1016
00:53:18,039 --> 00:53:19,679
But I remember how much I loved it the first

1017
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,679
time I watched it when it was submitted to the

1018
00:53:21,679 --> 00:53:24,320
festival and I and I saw any straight away, I

1019
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,320
would I would be screening. I need to watch it

1020
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,159
again now and find the big Foot in every in

1021
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,400
every single, every single scene or sequence. That's fantastic.

1022
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got to pay for it now though, Dean,

1023
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,519
I know, I know, go to go. My wife wants

1024
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:41,639
an Aston Martin.

1025
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:41,679
Speaker 2: So.

1026
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 4: I gotta get going, don't we.

1027
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: All.

1028
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:49,079
Speaker 4: Well, it's great you have a supportive family. Well, funnily enough,

1029
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,239
i've been I've been making a documentary, as everybody who

1030
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,360
watches and listens to the show regularly knows, called the

1031
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,199
Man who invented Flying Sauces. Now, for we must be

1032
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,239
going into the year four. It's taking a long time,

1033
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,079
and daughter appears in it a number of times because

1034
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,920
just for the fact that I had I have her

1035
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,079
with me almost all the time, so she'd be on trip.

1036
00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:08,880
So I thought, rather than ignore the fact she's here.

1037
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,639
Let's have her in the in some of the in

1038
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,840
some of the sequences with me. But this last fall

1039
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,199
through the winter, I made a short narrative film and

1040
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,440
I worked with what I had, and my my mother visited,

1041
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,760
was visiting from Australia, and I had my daughter and

1042
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,480
I made literally a horror short just with with two

1043
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:31,840
and with the creature. But that's that's to work with

1044
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,800
family as a joy. It's I mean, I've made a

1045
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,000
number of films in the past which haven't had family.

1046
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,400
When I was a little kid, of course, I made

1047
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,599
movies with family. But it's a great joy too. It's

1048
00:54:41,639 --> 00:54:43,760
a great joy having your family there. I'm sure you

1049
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,880
felt that as well, having your daughter in the yeah,

1050
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,400
and your wife catering and things. My mom catered a

1051
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,079
feature I made an Australia years ago. My mother and stepfather.

1052
00:54:52,599 --> 00:54:55,639
That's what you need when you make an indie film.

1053
00:54:56,519 --> 00:54:59,880
She certainly sounds like it. So let's let's let's make

1054
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:06,079
As we're getting towards towards the end of this, maybe

1055
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,840
just pitch the film one more time, suggests why people

1056
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,920
should watch it. I recommend it whole hardly. There's no

1057
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,119
way your film would have won the Pome of New

1058
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:15,719
York Midwest Wedfest if it wasn't just a still a

1059
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,360
movie and it is. And I know you say, I

1060
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,079
know you say. What you want most is just for

1061
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:23,079
people to be entertainment. Why do you think people should

1062
00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:25,400
watch this asqualgoists? There's so much out there to watch.

1063
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,559
Speaker 5: I think the most important reason to watch it. There's

1064
00:55:32,599 --> 00:55:33,400
a couple of things.

1065
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 8: One, it's really the true it's a true independent film

1066
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,519
with a small crew, with people who love the subject

1067
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,960
who It's a film that has something to say that's

1068
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,599
deeper on a human level, not just.

1069
00:55:46,599 --> 00:55:53,559
Speaker 3: About spirituality, the spirit world or or footprints. But it

1070
00:55:53,639 --> 00:55:56,519
really asked the question why do we look for things

1071
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,000
outside of ourselves? And as we're looking for these things

1072
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,760
outside of ourselves, isn't it really something inside of ourselves

1073
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:05,239
that we're.

1074
00:56:05,039 --> 00:56:06,079
Speaker 5: Trying to find?

1075
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:11,679
Speaker 3: Because you know, Sasquatch is sort of the ultimate, he's

1076
00:56:11,679 --> 00:56:12,199
got it all.

1077
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 5: He gets to be both anonymous and.

1078
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,519
Speaker 3: Famous, because I wouldn't wish fame on anybody, especially in

1079
00:56:18,519 --> 00:56:19,880
this day and age.

1080
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 5: So not only that, but here's a great thing.

1081
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 3: Too about this film is there's so much slop and

1082
00:56:28,639 --> 00:56:30,159
smut out in the world.

1083
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 5: This is a movie you can.

1084
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 3: Watch with your grandmother and your kids. I've met kids

1085
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,159
at festivals from five to people in their late seventies

1086
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:44,519
early eighties that love this film. It's lighthearted, it moves well,

1087
00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:49,280
It's got some serious moments. It's not scary in the

1088
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,320
It's got a couple of scary moments, but there's nobody's

1089
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,880
getting hacked up with a knife and blood splattered everywhere.

1090
00:56:56,039 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 5: It's just a lot of that. This is if you're

1091
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,159
an artist, that's what you're into, that's fine.

1092
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,119
Speaker 3: But I think my calling is as a Christian in

1093
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:07,480
this business, is to try and entertain people, to make

1094
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:10,119
them think it respectively, about why we are the way

1095
00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:13,840
we are, what brought us here where we're going, and

1096
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:15,639
to just be entertained and.

1097
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:18,719
Speaker 5: Have a laugh. And what I've also found too is

1098
00:57:18,719 --> 00:57:21,880
people that I've interviewed after the film is there are

1099
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,880
a lot of questions that they have for me. And

1100
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,559
there's one very specific question that a lot of people

1101
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:31,400
pick up on in this movie, and they ask me,

1102
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:33,960
is it this or is it that?

1103
00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: And I never answer that question because it can be

1104
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:39,599
this or that, depending on how you feel.

1105
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,679
Speaker 5: About those moments in the movie.

1106
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:49,559
Speaker 3: So you can purchase or rent this movie at Merkelefilms

1107
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:52,880
dot com. Or you can go to my website which

1108
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:57,000
is Josephgranda dot com and find out about the other

1109
00:57:57,039 --> 00:58:00,760
things I'm doing, and you can get links to the

1110
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,760
to screen it through there or the Sasquologists dot com.

1111
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 5: They'll all they'll all lead you back to Rome. But yeah,

1112
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:09,559
go ahead and rent it.

1113
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:13,599
Speaker 3: Support, support small film, support the Midwest Weird Fest. It's

1114
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:17,559
a fantastic festival. Joseph Granda dot com. You can get

1115
00:58:17,559 --> 00:58:19,159
it there and keep in touch with me. In fact,

1116
00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:29,280
I'll tell you what the first people that rent the

1117
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:34,079
film and send me a screenshot of their purchase to

1118
00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:38,039
my email at info at Joseph dot com, granded dot com,

1119
00:58:38,159 --> 00:58:40,400
or just go to my website my emails there, I'll

1120
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:43,679
the first three people, I'll send you a free Sasquologists hat.

1121
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 5: Wow, there it is right there there. I am in

1122
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,800
the cartoon form of the Sasquologists.

1123
00:58:50,039 --> 00:58:53,239
Speaker 4: That's an amazing deal. Thank you for that, Joseph. Yeah,

1124
00:58:54,639 --> 00:58:56,199
that's fantastic for your audience.

1125
00:58:56,199 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 5: That's an exclusive, my friend.

1126
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:04,599
Speaker 4: That's Impressingwhere else I'm impressed? Yeah, yeah, I have a

1127
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:07,199
link to all of those sides, except I don't have

1128
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,760
Joseph Grander dot com. But that's easy for anybody watching,

1129
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,519
so they can just see how Joseph Grander's name spelt

1130
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:15,360
in the title of the show and then added dot

1131
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,599
com to it. I do have a link to where

1132
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:19,119
you can watch it. I do have a link to

1133
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:21,800
the sisquologist dot com. And I do have a link

1134
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:26,840
to where people can watch the trailer. And again, I

1135
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,360
can recommend this film not just because I love it,

1136
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,320
not just because Joseph's a guessed, but because it won

1137
00:59:33,519 --> 00:59:36,119
the parmaduor at Midwest We had first twenty twenty five.

1138
00:59:36,159 --> 00:59:38,119
The fact that we're selected was a victory enough, but

1139
00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:41,239
then to win that award suggests just how powerful and

1140
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:46,000
wonderful movie this is. And there's the parmad your right there,

1141
00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:49,920
and very well, not to brag.

1142
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,199
Speaker 3: But of the three best film boards that we won

1143
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,079
Best Festival, Best Trophy.

1144
00:59:56,679 --> 00:59:57,599
Speaker 4: Oh, we thank you.

1145
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,719
Speaker 5: Hands down. I've got to do it, my friend.

1146
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,679
Speaker 4: Man. Well, that's very nice of you to say, But

1147
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:05,400
again that if you haven't seen this film, you should.

1148
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,519
It's only been available now for a week to the

1149
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:09,599
general public. Unless you've got to see that A very

1150
01:00:09,639 --> 01:00:15,079
limited theatrical and festival run last year. So so go

1151
01:00:15,159 --> 01:00:17,639
and check the movie out again. The links are all there,

1152
01:00:17,639 --> 01:00:20,800
and I cannot recommend it enough. I'm going to have

1153
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,400
to show it to my daughter again. I don't think

1154
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:23,960
she watched it when I programmed it, so I'm going

1155
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,639
to have to go and rent rent it again and

1156
01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:27,559
show it to my daughter. She'll dig it. She loves it.

1157
01:00:27,719 --> 01:00:29,920
She loves bigfoot stuff, and she's going to love this movie.

1158
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,079
And as you said, it's totally family friendly. Yeah cool,

1159
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,840
Well man, I mean I think that's it I need.

1160
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,920
I want to talk to you more going forward, just

1161
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:44,159
about about your future future projects, when you were ready

1162
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:46,519
to do either of them or when they're done. I

1163
01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:49,400
want to see them at Midwest Weirdfest. I'd love to

1164
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,639
get a chance to screen anything from you in the future.

1165
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1166
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,199
Speaker 3: I actually have an idea for a little film much

1167
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,679
like this that if this bigger one doesn't fall through,

1168
01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:02,960
that I'm going to do. It's called Social Media Bites.

1169
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:08,679
It's about a teenage who turns into a werewolf, not

1170
01:01:09,639 --> 01:01:12,880
from being bitten, but from using social media.

1171
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 4: Fantastic. I'm sure that would have a home at Midwest

1172
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:20,519
a Weird Fest as well.

1173
01:01:20,679 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: Well.

1174
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,559
Speaker 4: Again, I can't thank you enough for visiting with me tonight, Joseph.

1175
01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:27,599
It's such a it's such a pleasure to talk to you.

1176
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:29,639
You're just such a great human being, You're a great

1177
01:01:29,679 --> 01:01:32,480
guest at the festival, You're an incredible talent, and just

1178
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,079
just thanks for spending the last hour of your life

1179
01:01:35,159 --> 01:01:36,559
chatting with me and our audience.

1180
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, anytime. Thank you. I appreciate it, and thanks everybody

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out there for listening.

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Speaker 3: And I hope that you'll go and watch the Sasquladgers

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and that's spread it to all your friends, because that's

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the only way that a small film like this can

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be successful is through.

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Speaker 5: Word of mouth. Absolutely, we don't have any more money

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for marketing.

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Speaker 4: No, it's so important. It is important to recommend independent

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art always to your friends, because I think if people

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are like me, they get sick of so many of

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the films that come out of Hollywood. They're just how

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many Marvel movies can be made, how many franchises can

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just be reimagined again and again and again. If you

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want to see independent film, and you want to see

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films like this aschologists, which you will as soon as

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you see it, let your friends know as well, because

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it's word of mouth that really helps everybody who is

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talented in the independent space, not just letting this film

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get seen, but giving them motivation and the potential to

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go forward and make their next project, which, after you've

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seen this film, you very much want another one from Joseph.

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So again, thank you Joseph for visiting with me tonight.

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Thank you everybody else out there. Until I talk to

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you Joseph, which hopefully won't be too far in the

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distant future, and until I talk to everybody else, which

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will be same Weird time, nine pm Central, Same Weird network,

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the Untold Radio Network next week. Please keep it weird.

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Speaker 5: Thank you,