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Speaker 3: Yo and welcome in to O t B here live
from the Raising Kine Studio. Jake Flynn Elandra Tate here
with you, and there is no delay.
Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's just jump right into skipped and jump
right in.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just letting y'all know the yo's were because
of the performance in the field on SAT. Saturday more
than anything, which we'll certainly get to a lot obviously,
to get to over the last I would say twenty
four thirty six, whatever number you want to put on there.
Obviously a lot has happened. LSU has fired Brian Kelly,
and we'll dive into it all. We will get into
all the nitty gritty how do we get here? Where
you at right now? Where do you go in the future.
If you were in the stadium on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Night, maybe you're not surprised.
Speaker 3: Maybe you're not surprised by the actions of LSU on Sunday.
To let Brian Kelly go that was as embarrassing of
a loss as I can certainly remember. We were talking
in studio here right before we hopped on and there's
been some moments where it's been tough. Tayte mentioned when
you lost to Troy there, I'm like, yeah, that one
still is not as bad. I remember being on the
sideline for the tech Ball where you had thirty nine
scholarship players and you got a receiver playing quarterback. Although
Chew Breeze went out there pretty well, it was still like,
this is pretty embarrassing. That Saturday night was the most
embarrassing I think that I've ever been associated with.
Speaker 2: To have the.
Speaker 3: Lead, to give up the lead, to get punch in
the mouth and just have that game spiral, and then
everything that happened after the game, and them, as you
put it, Matt, basically dancing on your grave after game
they did that. That was all a step too far,
and you knew something was going to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's one thing about there's one way to
get beat in the game, right, there's another way to
kind of get embarrassed. And the second half we got
embarrassed the second half, and then they did they danced
on the grave, they dunked on you after the game,
and the optics.
Speaker 2: Behind it certainly pissed a lot of LSU fans.
Speaker 4: Off A and M fans taking over the student section
than doing their Texas A and M. You know whatever
warhead whatever it is, and they and they sway back
and forth, the quarterback talking about that they weren't nervous
the entire time during the game, and they said, you know,
Death Valley waswhelming, underwhelming, their coach saying it the great
Tommy Moffatt and them getting a revenge game and you know,
taking which they should have taken pictures on the eye
of the Tiger Lake. They turned Tiger Stadium into their
home field. And if you're the man in charge, that
falls on your shoulders, it is your fault. So they
had enough. Obviously donors had enough. That was a big question, right,
I mean we all. I don't know if anybody really
thought that this type of move would be able to happen.
This from the there's a dollar incent there's a business
side of this. There's people that have to take money
out of their pocket for this, and it's a lot
of it. It's a lot of Keisha and so it
was this big question, could it happen? Would it happened? Well,
you just got embarrassed on your home field. You haven't
been fun to watch leading up to this. The people
were disgruntled, people were waiting for something. And then when
that happens the way it did, the antics on the
sideline of you know, undressing your assistant coaches, yelling fo
like like all that stuff that none of it looked good, right,
and then people just said enough is enough. They got
together and of course, like this show, we're gonna kind
of talk break break all that down.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of rumors. This might be a rumor show.
Who knows what it is.
Speaker 4: We're gonna vent you with the facts that come out
and that we do have. But you know, a lot
of it's speculation, a lot of it speculative. Right now,
we don't know what. We don't know at this point
in time because everything is so fresh. I do know
that Brian Kelly has been relieved of his duties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the last two years, and there's so many
different ways that we're going to attack this today. And
Taytay said, yeah, maybe at some point, maybe we get
to the Saints. I mean probably, I mean that performance.
Who cares at this point? But you got like the
last two years, A and M has beaten you sixty
six to thirteen in the second half. I'll say that again,
just for those that haven't heard that, sixty six points
for the Aggies to thirteen by LSU in the second half.
You've led them at halftime the last two years and
lost because it was sixty six to thirteen in the
second half.
Speaker 2: Like, those are things that can't happen.
Speaker 3: Also, Matt talked about him yelling at the assistant coaches
on the sideline seat. Some of that I don't get
to see because I'm calling the game and I'm on
the radio. So like I went back and I watched
a TV copy this week this weekend, of course we
watch a coaches copy.
Speaker 2: You don't see that on the coaches like it's raw.
Speaker 3: So I went back in and I kind of watched
some of that and some of the questions like what
are we doing, why are we doing this? How do
you not know what you're doing? How do you not
know how this is the outcome? Like that that was
troublesome to me. Again, like I don't get a chance
to see this and so because I'm either calling the
game or I'm watching coaches tape. But when I see that,
and then it was my wife, she's like, that's kind
of every game. It was like every game, She's like,
every game, like, that's troublesome. Like, this is your team.
You're the leader in charge. This is your offensive coordinator,
this is your defense coordinator, this is your special teams coordinator.
You should know what's going to happen before it happens,
Like when a play's called, like you should know the
outcome because you know everything that's going on within the program.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as the head coach at your job to be
familiarized with every single intricate detail of every play call
and understand what the concept is. So like where we
are certainly not lip readers, but it's pretty.
Speaker 2: Easy to let read out there.
Speaker 4: And when you are asking continuously asking what are we
doing here? Why are we calling that? You can't call
that in that situation, like you have the final say
of everything.
Speaker 2: So that's why there was his his head on the
chopping block.
Speaker 4: I mean he has the overall save everything, but like look,
I mean the antics on the sideline. It just it's
a terrible look for not only your program, but let's
talk about the individual players watching it too. Yeah, at
the end of those players, of course, Like there's like
coaches are gonna yell at players. Fine, whatever, there's a
way to do it, there's a way not to do it.
There's always needs to be mutual respect between that. But
you that's part of being a coach. You have to
know what works for players. You got to know them.
There's a time and a place for everything. But I
don't know if I've really ever seen a head coach
in the face.
Speaker 2: Of assistant coaches as much as I've seen it.
Speaker 4: Maybe if tempers flair every like once in a while, Yeah,
but usually it's they're getting after on the headsets, like
talking to each other on the headsets, and they're not
making a display of it. Yeah, it looked it was
really obvious that it was what just happened. I don't
know what just happened. I'm confused that why we did
something or why we called something. I didn't step in
to stop it. Now I need to go make sure
that other person knows I'm blaming him for it. Yeah,
And I don't know if he like had the peripherals
of saying like I need to make sure everybody else
knows it was somebody else's fault or what by that's.
Speaker 2: Sure what it seemed like to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Charles says and said the Body four chat, saving
yodic coaches. Yeah, when I talk about like yelling at coaches,
it's the what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Why are we doing this?
Speaker 3: It was also like the things that were being said
that we're talking about. Yeah, at least for me, like
viewing that and it's like, what are we doing? We
can't do that on third and whatever with no timeout?
It's okay, well one like and we'll get there. Trust
me when I say we'll get there. The game breakdown
of Texas A and M because again what the hell?
But like as soon as that comes in as the
head coach, it's like no, no, no, no, no no no,
I know this offense as well as you do as well.
Speaker 2: That's no next.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Saving yells at his coaches like some.
Speaker 2: Would yell at his coaches too.
Speaker 3: It was like for the individual on the field that
messed up, right, it would just yell at their position coach.
Speaker 2: Right. It wasn't like what are you doing? Like, don't
call it like this is? It was let's call it
what it is, too like some people can.
Speaker 4: If you do it naturally, you come off pretty all right,
it looks natural. If you do it in a fake way,
it comes off as a fake way, like you're trying
to make a statement, like there's a way that like
some people, like some people are are look cool when
they use curse words. Some people just try too hard, right,
it seems like this is one of those situations like
I'm gonna yell to yell because I'm trying to pass
off blame here.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess the buck stopped here. So there's gonna
be a lot of talk of.
Speaker 3: What went wrong, and eventually we'll get to maybe what
the future looks like.
Speaker 2: And I know, look, this.
Speaker 4: Is gonna be a lot of speculation. I mean, this
isn't like, oh for sure, we don't we don't know facts.
They don't have facts, And like I said, it'll trickle
in throughout the day and we'll present them as they
pop up. But a lot of it's just gonna be
speculative and kind of talking about what's gonna what the
next step.
Speaker 2: Is and and look, this is how this works.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of rumors and I was
telling y'all, like at nine am yesterday I had had UH, ESPN,
Yahoo on three, every somebody from those like hues, and
it was like I was like, guys, I'm just trying
to get ready for these ten U flag football playoff games.
I'm trying to jump onto trampoline with my daughter. Can
y'all let this rest? But like, that's how this works.
And I only bring it up to say, like, over
the next days and weeks, that's how it's going to work,
and those guys are gonna find it out.
Speaker 2: We'll have that information and we'll give it to you,
so we'll.
Speaker 3: Talk about the future, and we'll speculate on maybe which
direction you go on here and more. And certainly in
the first hour, it's more of what went wrong, what
did not go right?
Speaker 2: And you know, the.
Speaker 3: More that you start to peel back the layers and
you start to look at uh, you know, some of
the conversation, a lot of the conversation has been this
isn't new, it's been over the last gosh two years,
two and a half years.
Speaker 2: Is fit and this doesn't fit and that doesn't fit.
Speaker 3: And I do wonder, like I understand that part of
the conversation, but like more than just like not a fit,
it's not he's not you know this, that and the other.
The thing that like as you peel back the layers is.
Speaker 2: There wasn't the.
Speaker 3: Buy in to what you have to do to be
LSU and win national championships.
Speaker 2: So it's not.
Speaker 3: Necessarily about fit, Like that's that's not the conversation.
Speaker 2: That's a subjective term, Like like what does that mean?
You don't have to people say you can't. No one
can put a finger.
Speaker 3: On it, right, You don't have to be somebody that
graduated necessarily from LSU or from Louisiana, because we have
seen others come here and buy in and love this
place and you know, endear themselves to the fans and
give you every single thing that they had to make
sure they didn't disappoint you. And that's one of the
things that you didn't see here, Like it wasn't the
and I'm not saying they didn't work hard, you know,
but you've got to fully give yourself over to a
place and a job like this, right, And like when
you hear some of the things of going on vacation
during bye weeks, it's like, Okay, well, that's not that's
not how you do this. That's not what you can do.
You can't do those things like when you're in like
critical time, during critical times. But I don't think ever
like once once July fifteenth hits May in the NFL.
Maybe it's a little bit later in college, maybe it's
two weeks later. It's we go into the football facility,
we shut the door, we lock it, and we hide
the key, and then in December we look for the
key again. Right, we can take a little breather and
then we go right back in. And that's what it is,
that's what's all about. It's like everything you do from
that time is focused on how do we make the
LSU Tigers great?
Speaker 2: And like that's some of the things that you didn't see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, like it or not. When you
decide to take a job like this, when you decide
to take that contract, when you decide to take that
amount of money to do that job like it, that's
that that's your life at that point, Like you have
to be all in. You got to be sold at
and you know, of course, like what we all we
know is to talk about what we hear, right, and
you go vacation on things you talk about, Uh, you know,
there's rumors out there about not being in the office
quite as much as we needed to be. But you
talk about the fit. The fit thing has come up
so much, and it's like such a it's such a
glaring statement to me because you can't explain, you can't
define what fit is. Obviously, it's not geological, it's not
where you're from.
Speaker 2: It's not about.
Speaker 3: Any coach Miles. I mean, those guys.
Speaker 4: Weren't nobody who's gonna be like besides coach Oh, Like,
who's who you're gonna find in the same state that's
gonna be hed got.
Speaker 3: When when I think of what it takes to fit
into his place, it's somebody like Jay Johnson. So Jay's
from the West coast like that, he has no ties
to Louisiana. But when Jay came here and I've and
I've had conversations with Jay about this, like he wanted
to be the Nick Saban of college baseball in his
work ethic and what he gave to the program, Like
you can't drive by the box. And Elandra can back
me up on this because she goes over there and
works baseball. You can't go to that stadium and not
beat J there outlast Jay there, not see his car there.
Like that's just the way that that guy works. And
I'm not saying it's the only way to do it.
But Jay Johnson gives every ounce of everything he has
to make the LSU Tigers great in baseball. And if
they lose, Elandra, you'll bat me up on this. If
they lose, it's not because Jay didn't do everything he
possibly could to have them prepared. Yeah, one hundred percent agreed. Like,
like you said, he's from the West Coast, but he
embodies what I feel it means to coach here at LSU.
Speaker 2: Like he's passionate about it.
Speaker 3: He s it's the thing he loves more than anything
outside probably of his wife.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I mean you heard him that one time when he
we lost I don't remember what series, and he was
like I was up till like three am just staring
at the moon, drinking orange juice, and we were like, Okay,
this man's psycho, but I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yes, I.
Speaker 4: Think the people of Louisiana, like when they want when
they talk about fit, they want somebody for one that's genuine.
The two that when they say something, they know that
they mean it. And like it got with this Brian
Kellyer got off to a kind of a rocky start
with that, right with the you know, we laugh about it,
but the fake accent and all the just kind of
it's like you can tell, like when somebody is truly,
truly bought in and in it and authentic with it.
I think the authentic being authentic is the key word here.
Speaker 2: Authenticity. Authenticity.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a big word, but you know, you
ask I'm asked all the time for years, and I've
asked other people and I hear the people talking and
it's like, hey, what do you think about Brian Kelly
And it's like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good. Don't really know him, don't
really know him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And and so when you don't know that, like
the people of Louisiana, LSU fans want somebody that is
all in, bought in to the program, and then that
can tell when when that man speaks. It's like, I
can I know it's in his heart when he speaks.
I don't know if we've ever known that. Yeah, I
guess we kind of like have the writing on the
wall now, but I mean it's one of those things.
Speaker 2: Fit to me is being genuine to.
Speaker 4: Yourself and genuinely love and respect in the state of
Louisiana and Louisiana State University. And you know, not to
say that Brian didn't want to the will was there.
I know, he gave his own money for, you know,
to put into nil and do all this stuff.
Speaker 2: Like I think the will was there. I don't know
if the I don't know. I don't know if the
love or the authenticity was ever there.
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's all kind of speculations. What it's
all opinion, that's subjective. But when I just when you
ask people, hey, what do you think about keuny, like,
I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess we got to wait and see. I don't know.
Speaker 4: It wasn't ever like the oh man, this was an
awesome like so pumped up up about it?
Speaker 2: What never that it was always I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know, And that's that's an issue when you're
three four years in it and you're still saying, I
don't know, there's so.
Speaker 3: Much and I know we actually we have a clock today,
even though it's not gonna feel like it it's gonna
be no, it's gonna be a little bit all over
the place, and so we'll go ahead and get out
in front of apologize to that.
Speaker 2: But like even.
Speaker 3: It's a small thing, and this isn't even like to
do with our show, just more like the station in general,
Like every single week, Jay Johnson comes on this radio
show every single week, Kim Malke comes on this radio
show every single week, Coach O came on this radio show.
And again it could be Hunt Show, Matt Show, Hanney
and I like, I don't I don't care more than
station Brian Kelly went on Paul finebumb Show. And that's
not to say that like don't do that. Oh my gosh,
well how'd you mistreat us? I'm saying like Jay and
Kim and coach are like they wanted to talk to
LSU fans. They didn't necessarily they didn't care to talk
to sec are their sport fans.
Speaker 2: They wanted to talk to LSU fans.
Speaker 3: And when we started doing that with Jay, like that
was this one thing He's like, yeah, I'll do I
don't want talk to LSU fans every Thursday, absolutely, like
we'll do that every week, and that was him, like
it wasn't even like us asking him to do.
Speaker 2: It every week. He's like, we'll do this every week. Yep.
Speaker 3: Those are the things that we're talking about. And it
seems like a small thing, but those things start to
pile up. And like, those coaches wanted to talk to
LSU fans. They wanted to talk to the people that
are listening to us right now. They wanted to talk
to the people that are in the chat every single day.
And they said that, like though, like.
Speaker 4: When you talk to those coaches, you genuinely know who
those people are as a person. Yeah, right, You genuinely
know that they care about their program and about the
kids on that team and about the fan base.
Speaker 2: Like there's no there's no question in that. There's no
I don't knows.
Speaker 4: When you ask what their opinion of Kim Milky or
Jay Johnson is, there's no I don't knows there and
I just don't. We can't say that we ever truly
whether he did or not, I don't know. It just
the being genuine. It never seemed genuine, And that's what
that's my definition of the fit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I don't on a map, I don't really
care where you're from. I think it's all the things
that we just talked about, something will continue to talk about.
So many different tracks there we can go with this deal. Uh,
you know, at some point we'll come back to what
the record was.
Speaker 4: And so we're gonna do we kind of have a
thing on the show. We're gonna do it eulogy.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm down for this. Should we do the
eulogy for every other coach? That's right?
Speaker 4: We got a standard here on off the bench. Yeah,
we can't make exceptions, right right, I don't think so. Well,
let's know, in the chat, if you want us to
do a eulogy, well maybe we'll do that. Maybe it's
an hour three situation. Yeah, it feels like an hour
three situation.
Speaker 2: We're glad to have you here with us.
Speaker 3: Obviously, big day four LSU Athletics and there's a lot
of jobs that are open right now. But just know,
and I don't care what anybody says. I'll fight anybody
that almants to argue this point. The LSU job is
the best job available because the LSU football job is
a top three job in the sport. Regardless of what
job was open, it would be in the top three.
Even if you don't agree with that, you can deny
it's a top five job.
Speaker 2: That's what it is. You're LSU and who almost said
a curse word there? And do it.
Speaker 3: You are going to have the opportunity to change the
direction of this program and get it back to the
LSU standard if you handle it right. And we'll talk
all about that when we come back here on OTV.
Speaker 1: Off the bench.
Speaker 3: What's the what situation for FCC finds And in a
situation like this, I don't know, you gotta you gotta
slap on the wrist type deal because your boy got
sweat on the back.
Speaker 4: I think they make exceptions for the situation like that
if your coach like gets fired and if you do
get fined, you know what you should be drinking.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed a big boy, big do Sekis on Friday,
had some some good old little superior set down.
Speaker 2: I think it was.
Speaker 3: It was a big old like it made it like
it actually looked like it fit in my hand. If
that it tells you exactly, go for dose. Maybe you're
celebrating something, raise a glass, drink a dose, Sachi you
want to be celebrating just saying I don't know. I'm
just saying, weird. You gotta buye week. Maybe you get
a little getaway playing. You should enjoy that with a dose. Sekis.
Speaker 4: It's always a great time to go for dose. Go
for dose at delicious Mexican lawyer. Make sure if you're
gonna do it, drink responsibily. And like you said, if
you're celebrating anything, make sure you're drinking. Do secis, go
for dose.
Speaker 1: Say no, I'm disco.
Speaker 2: It ain't no country club either, This is La.
Speaker 5: All I want to do is have a little fun
before I die.
Speaker 2: Just the man next to me out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: Able, he says, his.
Speaker 5: Name is William.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's.
Speaker 1: Bill, William macer buddy, Let tigers turn talkers. This is
off the bench.
Speaker 5: Fine, we are drinking.
Speaker 1: Beer and no not Tuesday.
Speaker 5: The fun faced giant calm wash. The good people of
the world are washing their cords on that lunch break, homes.
Speaker 2: And a scramin as best they can skirt the su.
Speaker 5: Drive, the shining dots and the buicks.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back, Yeah, OTV here lift in the
Raising Kanes studio. One of the things that we didn't
get to there in the in the first segment, and look,
this is going to be all three hours, So if
you're looking for anything else, probably not the place to
be today. It's obviously the biggest news in Louisiana. It's
the biggest news in the SEC, and it's one of
the biggest news pieces in the country.
Speaker 2: When Brian Kelly first got here, we first got.
Speaker 3: Here, uh, look in LSU at the time, you know,
it obviously wasn't going well, and we all know how
many players you had, and look, it was it was
going to be an uphill battle for sure.
Speaker 2: Whatever, But.
Speaker 3: We had been so used to a lot of the
same people being around the program.
Speaker 2: And you know, some.
Speaker 3: People might look at that and be like, yeah, well
when you when you bring somebody new and he needs
to bring in his people, and you need to bring
in some of your people for sure, for sure. But
there was like everybody had to go mentality And even
if you go back and listen to the shows that
I even I don't even know what chills doing. I
guess it would have been OTV at the time. It's
like that was that didn't make total sense to me.
And t Bob Okay, you got rid of you know,
Corey Raymond, and you got rid of Blake Baker who
was there.
Speaker 2: And look, Blake is.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm friends with Blake, like close with Blake. I
don't mindset on that, and you can probably guess that.
And Blake wanted to be here so bad and like
his wife played soccer here like else you mean something, Louise,
I mean some to him, and he was, you know,
linebacker coach, and like you didn't retain Blake Baker, and
so he goes to Missouri becomes a rising star, and
then you had to go crawling back and hire Blake back.
And Blake wanted to be here. We know Corey wanted
to be here. You had to do the same thing.
You had to try to right the wrong that you
didn't do from the very beginning. Like those are a
couple of people, but it's not just coaches. I mean
it's people with inside the building that had been there forever,
that had been through three national championships.
Speaker 2: I think that.
Speaker 3: Happens by chance, or you think those people knew what
they were doing, and those people were a fabrica of
the team and the school and what everything that it
means is kind of going back to the same conversation,
like those people in the building would have jumped on
a grenade for LSU.
Speaker 2: And they're not football coach.
Speaker 3: If I'm just talking about people around the building, I'm
talking about from every job that you can imagine, director
of obs, director of recruiting, head coach, secretary like whatever, anything,
Dietitian like whatever, it would have been, strength coach like
like whatever it would have been.
Speaker 2: Like those people would have jumped on a grenade for LSU.
Speaker 3: And they've been through three three national championships with three
different coaches, and it was like such a.
Speaker 2: We gotta get rid of everybody.
Speaker 3: And then you found yourself having to go back to
multiple people that we're talking about there because you're like, oh, well, actually,
they did do things.
Speaker 2: The right way. They did have a deep desire.
Speaker 3: For this program in this place, and they'd given their
entire adult life to LSU and those three letters, and
like you have to have those people in the building again,
you want to bring in your own people.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 3: I understand that it's got to be a mixture of both,
but it was over correction to say the least.
Speaker 4: Like from the very get go all right, everything you're
saying one hundred percent accurate. I want to talk about
that from a former player perspective.
Speaker 2: Since the as tenure began. And look, we.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that we've known and heard
for years right now, ving LSU fans were optimistic. We
hope things turn around, we hope their success. But when
there's not, you know, these kind of things start to
come to light from a former former, from a former
player perspective. For the majority of people that I talked
to that I played with, that we sweat with, we
bled with, we fought with, and the people that came
before us and the people that came after with after us,
there was never there was always kind of a feeling
that whether it's true or not, that they were felt
that they were a little unwelcome in the facility at
football ops. Now you could go, it was just there
was a lot of different steps to have to go
to go unless you were like a former like superstar
person that you could kind of have the act says,
but the access was kind of taken away from your
former players.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna let you speak on this more than me,
because I.
Speaker 4: I just hear it from from the people that from
everybody that we played with. Yeah, that's not like the
superstars superstars, right, It's like they never felt really welcome
like before this. But when coach Miles was here, coach
O's Ronleigh welcome players that come back and work out
in the facility. They had lockers, they had they everything
was welcome. They would always ask for former players to
come back and speak to the team, be around the team.
So I think there was people felt isolated and they
didn't like that about this this regime. Now, no one,
you know, complained that much because we we were hopeful
that you know, whatever new coach wants to do his
own thing, doesn't want to doesn't want a ton of
the former players back or around.
Speaker 2: Fine, but you're better win. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 4: And in this day and age where you have this
nil culture of you're paying players to come in. They
might not have like in their heart of hearts, they
might not bleed purple and gold, but they're there to
play the sport as best they can. And you want
to develop culture with a bunch of every single year,
you got all these new you got all this turnover.
You're gonna have more turnover next year, all these turnover
new guys, people coming from different colleges all over the
country that have signed somewhere else out of high school
and they've transferred twice and now they're at LSU because
they're getting paid and they got to play well in
this world, I would think it'd be paramount, absolutely paramount
for to have your former players that were here, that care.
Speaker 2: That will die for this program.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that will absolutely do anything they can for that
eye in the middle of the field. I would think
you would want them around creating that culture, setting it
all the time for these people that have transferred in
because of money to come play football.
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm glad. Guys are getting paid. I
love it. It's great.
Speaker 4: I would think you would want that culture to be
set by people that have been there, and not just
from the top guys, the guys that have you know,
won the Heisman or All Americans, right, but from the
guys that grinded, the guys that were position players, that
were role players, guys that fought and scrapped and had
to earn a scholarship in their second or third year
because they just loved LSU so much.
Speaker 2: And that was.
Speaker 4: Whether right or wrong, whether this is correct or not,
whether they meant to or not. It was taken away
from a lot of that. And it started and when
you want to isolate your former players a little bit
more to what you were talking about, it started with
as soon as Brian Kelly got here. It's like when
you go to you go get sent to prison, and
you send a message about picking the biggest guy in
the in the yard to fight. He went there and
fired a man that every former player loved, Tommy Moffitt
was loved by every single former player, and you went
and you did him wrong and you fired him. And
I don't know if you meant it or what. The
man had to pack up a cardboard box and the
optics of it were terrible, had to pack a box
load his car in the rain. And if you want
to get rid of him, fine, that is your prerogative.
You are welcome to bring in your own people. There's
a way to do things. Not everybody is the same.
And you isolated, I want to say, the majority of
your former players. It got started on a rocky road
and a rough foot like that is not how you
endear yourself, especially in this in Io world.
Speaker 2: When you got to have.
Speaker 4: Those guys around and you went and picked the biggest
guy in the yard, and you fired him.
Speaker 2: And guess what, he.
Speaker 4: Packed his bags, he reloaded his car in the rain,
and he just came and beat your ass in the rain.
Speaker 3: Oh twice the last two years in the second half.
And that's after he was told that he's gonna be retained.
And then got the rug pulled.
Speaker 4: From yeah, out wrong way, and I got if you
picked the wrong person to do wrong enemy.
Speaker 3: And last one before we take a break. We're gonna
try to stay on the clock as much as we can.
Speaker 2: It's it's not gonna be easy.
Speaker 3: I remember somebody from and I don't know who it is.
They're not here anymore. And there's a lot of people
in and out from here and there, from Notre Dame whatever.
I remember somebody telling me because I asked that question,
because there was there was a story of Ethan Postik
was in the weight room and Ethan's still playing in
the NFL, by the way, and he was like back
working out in the weight room, and almost like was asked,
like what are you doing in here? It's like I'm
working out like play real shoe, like I'm in the NFL,
like we always do this and and so like that's
where it started. And I'm like, hey, like why is
that happening? Like why is that going on? Because like
we used to have lockers in here where we worked out,
and like they would keep like if we were in
the NFL, we had a locker, we had a loop,
we had like and they embraced it, and they said, well,
you know, being in South Bend, Indiana, like nobody's from there,
and so like nobody lives there and nobody moves back there,
and so like it's never really been a thing, and
so it's just it's overwhelming for all the people that
still live around the program and they are still wanting
to be in the building, Like we just haven't ever
really had to deal with that, yeah, and so we're
trying to navigate how to deal with that. That was
the answer that I got when I asked the question,
because it made me angry because I'm like, Ethan's like Ethan,
like it's not from here, Ethan came here, Ethan was
a great player here, Ethan's still a great player, still.
Speaker 2: Playing in the NFL.
Speaker 3: And that was the answer that I got, was it
was overwhelming because nobody moved back to South Bend and
tried to come back to the facility at Notre Dame,
and so they didn't know how to handle all of
us still living here and wanting to be around the program.
Speaker 2: And they didn't handle it. Nope, they did not.
Speaker 4: So hey isolate for the former players, and you lose
a pretty big what could have been a good support.
Speaker 3: And I also think it means something that we do
move back here. I'm not from here. I'm from Treport
from Louisiana. I'm not from Baton Rouge. That's not from here.
He's from Texas. Dick Dixon's not from here. He's from
Motion Springs, Mississippi. I mean, we could go on and
on of the people that aren't from Baton Rouge aren't
from South Louisiana. But where do we find our way
back to Baton Rouge in South Louisiana?
Speaker 2: Because we we we were just a place. We were fit,
we were fit, we were fed.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a break more OTB when we
come back here live.
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Speaker 1: Locked in ULSU football twenty four to seven. You're listening
to off the bench.
Speaker 5: Two Day's gonna be the day that they're gonna throw
it back to you. By now, you should have somehow
realized what you gotta do. I don't believe that anybody
feels the way I had to about you now backbe
the weather's on the street, that the fire in your
heart is out. I'm sure you've heard it all before,
but you never really had it out. I don't believe
that anybody feels the way I to about you now.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to you and OTB here last
in Raize.
Speaker 2: King Studio.
Speaker 4: Got some good news. Yeah, votes are in in the
chat our three. There will be a eulogy happening on
this show. All right, let it get to typing.
Speaker 3: Might be electric, might be uh, a lot of like
why are y'all just now speaking on this? I should
have been talked about like you don't get the you
don't get to get then, Like the last thing I'm
gonna do and UH is give any other fan base
or anybody else like the opportunity to crap on LSU
Like you're gonna try to figure it out internally.
Speaker 2: You're gonna try to speak to the right people.
Speaker 3: You're gonna try to like I said, like I spoke
up and spoke out for former players, and look, I'll
give Jake Flint the Strengths coach a lot of credit.
Like Jake, Jake started to like say, you know, we're
gonna have some former guys that are able to work
out in here.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So like, if I'm out there and I'm doing that
instead of trying to fix the problem, if I'm just
sitting here whining about it, then that doesn't help my school.
And I'm gonna do everything i can to help those
three letters. And so that's just the way that I'm
going to handle that in those situations. I'm not just
with this coaching staff for them. I'm gonna try to
figure out how do we help LSU and how do
we try to fix those wrongs.
Speaker 4: And there's one thing like if you want to do
it's your way, that's that that pisses some people off,
make some people upset. It's fine, but you better succeed
at it, right, So you don't like it. Just because
somebody is like not pleased with something doesn't mean that
they need to go out and speak.
Speaker 2: Out about it. Because you're still hopeful.
Speaker 4: It's the three letters, it's LSU, man, You we still
want the most success no matter what.
Speaker 3: So and those things are happening in person, real conversations
to try to fix those wrongs.
Speaker 4: So so kudos man, kudos to the people that stepped
up to make a decision. I know there's no you know,
right time to do something like this, and I know
it's I don't think that many people thought it could
be done. From a financial perspective. How is it going
to do? How's all come together? We still don't know how.
I know the conversations on the buyout are still being discussed.
I guess quote from a lot of different people. What
does that mean. I'll tell you, well, we don't know.
I've no idea. I don't know if you could settle it.
I don't know the details on it. Everybody that it'll
it'll come out, it'll trickle out.
Speaker 3: It seems like everybody that we talked to seems to
think that it's not going to be the fifty three
million dollars right to know how that's possible, But you know,
I don't know how it's possible either. I don't know
what those conversations are like.
Speaker 2: I know it takes like another job.
Speaker 4: If off like the payment off sets like in the
you know contracts in the NFL, like if you were
getting paid and get cut, whoever you know signs you
next that money you get there, you don't get it
from both teams. So I don't know if it's a
situation like that, but coaches contracts are out of control.
I know that, absolutely out of control. It's ludicrous. I said, ludicrous, looted.
I'm pretty proud of that one. We could tell you celebrated.
I got to have the tiger on today, so love
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Speaker 3: I figured, uh, it needed to be.
Speaker 2: It needed to be an old school day. Right, let's
go need to be an old school day. It needed
to be. Should your neck a little, this is a day.
Don't tempt me with a good time. But let's go.
Frank bring the fullback back.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, if anybody would, my man Frank would do it.
There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: Why not. Couldn't be, couldn't hurt? It would be a
bad thing.
Speaker 3: At some point, again, we're gonna try to catch up
on the clock here this segment, but at some point,
like there's things that that we do want to show
on tape as well, like in this A and M game,
the good, the bad, the ugly. There was some things
that were good in the run game. I think you
have an emerging star at running back.
Speaker 2: I think that.
Speaker 3: You have a couple of positions that played their best game.
I think trade s Green and Matt pointed it out
multiple times this morning already to me, I think he
played his best game as an LSU Tiger. So there's
things to highlight, and obviously there's a lot of things
that went bad. You can't give up two sacks against
those edge rushers where you didn't touch them, like, you
didn't put a hand on them, you didn't whisper to
them like. Those things can't happen. So we'll get to
that as well. But it is going to be all
LSU all day. We'll continue that process when we come
back here. It is OTB Live from the Raise of
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Speaker 1: Oh, locked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven.
You're listening to off the Bench.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in OTV, laughing to raise a
kines studio. One thing I'll say, and I saw something
the chatting that Look, we appreciate you all being in here.
Almost fifteen hundred people watching right now, so we do appreciate.
Love the interaction, keep them coming, good, bad and different. Agree,
disagree whatever you know us we're going to interact regardless.
One of the things I did see though, like, can
you can you have teams play hard? Can you have
the same passion that you are talking about in today's
age of college football?
Speaker 2: Yes? And I said it last week.
Speaker 3: I want to remind people that the let's see the
number two team in the country.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make sure I get their rankings right now.
I know we're coming up on this. Yeah, the number
two team in the country, the number eight team in
the country, and the number nine team in the country,
and the number ten team in the country. That's Indiana,
that's Georgia Tech, that's Vanderbilt, and that's BYU. Turn on
the tape, watch those teams and tell me that you
don't see teams playing like they used to, Teams playing
hard as hell, teams giving you everything they've got.
Speaker 2: Those players.
Speaker 3: Look, every one of those teams outside of BYU. They
got transfer quarterback, they got transfers all over the place.
So it's not you can't take a transfer. No, you
have to set a culture. And when you set the
culture and you set the expectation, it's non negotiable. It's
not we hope you do it. You have to do
it or you won't be here. This is what we have.
This is our DNA, and if you don't buy in,
we'll find somebody that will. And that's why their top
ten teams in the country. More OTB. When we come back,
our number two off the bench,