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Speaker 1: We welcome into Off the Bench presented by All Star Toyota.

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Speaker 2: You're scary.

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Speaker 1: We're bringing into Spool Sports Talking so with Jacob Hester

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and Terrify Terrible live from the Haunts It Studio. Here's

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Jacob Hester and.

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Speaker 3: Yo and welcome in to O t B here live

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from the Raising Kine Studio. Jake Flynn Elandra Tate here

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with you, and there is no delay.

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Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's just jump right into skipped and jump

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm just letting y'all know the yo's were because

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of the performance in the field on SAT. Saturday more

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than anything, which we'll certainly get to a lot obviously,

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to get to over the last I would say twenty

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four thirty six, whatever number you want to put on there.

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Obviously a lot has happened. LSU has fired Brian Kelly,

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and we'll dive into it all. We will get into

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all the nitty gritty how do we get here? Where

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you at right now? Where do you go in the future.

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If you were in the stadium on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Night, maybe you're not surprised.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you're not surprised by the actions of LSU on Sunday.

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To let Brian Kelly go that was as embarrassing of

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a loss as I can certainly remember. We were talking

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in studio here right before we hopped on and there's

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been some moments where it's been tough. Tayte mentioned when

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you lost to Troy there, I'm like, yeah, that one

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still is not as bad. I remember being on the

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sideline for the tech Ball where you had thirty nine

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scholarship players and you got a receiver playing quarterback. Although

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Chew Breeze went out there pretty well, it was still like,

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this is pretty embarrassing. That Saturday night was the most

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embarrassing I think that I've ever been associated with.

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Speaker 2: To have the.

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Speaker 3: Lead, to give up the lead, to get punch in

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the mouth and just have that game spiral, and then

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everything that happened after the game, and them, as you

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put it, Matt, basically dancing on your grave after game

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they did that. That was all a step too far,

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and you knew something was going to happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's one thing about there's one way to

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get beat in the game, right, there's another way to

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kind of get embarrassed. And the second half we got

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embarrassed the second half, and then they did they danced

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on the grave, they dunked on you after the game,

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and the optics.

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Speaker 2: Behind it certainly pissed a lot of LSU fans.

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Speaker 4: Off A and M fans taking over the student section

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than doing their Texas A and M. You know whatever

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warhead whatever it is, and they and they sway back

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and forth, the quarterback talking about that they weren't nervous

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the entire time during the game, and they said, you know,

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Death Valley waswhelming, underwhelming, their coach saying it the great

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Tommy Moffatt and them getting a revenge game and you know,

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taking which they should have taken pictures on the eye

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of the Tiger Lake. They turned Tiger Stadium into their

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home field. And if you're the man in charge, that

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falls on your shoulders, it is your fault. So they

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had enough. Obviously donors had enough. That was a big question, right,

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I mean we all. I don't know if anybody really

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thought that this type of move would be able to happen.

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This from the there's a dollar incent there's a business

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side of this. There's people that have to take money

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out of their pocket for this, and it's a lot

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of it. It's a lot of Keisha and so it

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was this big question, could it happen? Would it happened? Well,

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you just got embarrassed on your home field. You haven't

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been fun to watch leading up to this. The people

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were disgruntled, people were waiting for something. And then when

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that happens the way it did, the antics on the

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sideline of you know, undressing your assistant coaches, yelling fo

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like like all that stuff that none of it looked good, right,

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and then people just said enough is enough. They got

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together and of course, like this show, we're gonna kind

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of talk break break all that down.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of rumors. This might be a rumor show.

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Who knows what it is.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna vent you with the facts that come out

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and that we do have. But you know, a lot

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of it's speculation, a lot of it speculative. Right now,

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we don't know what. We don't know at this point

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in time because everything is so fresh. I do know

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that Brian Kelly has been relieved of his duties.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the last two years, and there's so many

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different ways that we're going to attack this today. And

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Taytay said, yeah, maybe at some point, maybe we get

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to the Saints. I mean probably, I mean that performance.

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last two years, A and M has beaten you sixty

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six to thirteen in the second half. I'll say that again,

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just for those that haven't heard that, sixty six points

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for the Aggies to thirteen by LSU in the second half.

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lost because it was sixty six to thirteen in the

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Speaker 2: Like, those are things that can't happen.

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Speaker 3: Also, Matt talked about him yelling at the assistant coaches

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on the sideline seat. Some of that I don't get

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to see because I'm calling the game and I'm on

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the radio. So like I went back and I watched

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a TV copy this week this weekend, of course we

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watch a coaches copy.

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Speaker 2: You don't see that on the coaches like it's raw.

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Speaker 3: So I went back in and I kind of watched

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some of that and some of the questions like what

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are we doing, why are we doing this? How do

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you not know what you're doing? How do you not

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know how this is the outcome? Like that that was

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troublesome to me. Again, like I don't get a chance

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to see this and so because I'm either calling the

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game or I'm watching coaches tape. But when I see that,

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and then it was my wife, she's like, that's kind

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of every game. It was like every game, She's like,

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every game, like, that's troublesome. Like, this is your team.

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You're the leader in charge. This is your offensive coordinator,

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this is your defense coordinator, this is your special teams coordinator.

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You should know what's going to happen before it happens,

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outcome because you know everything that's going on within the program.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as the head coach at your job to be

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familiarized with every single intricate detail of every play call

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and understand what the concept is. So like where we

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are certainly not lip readers, but it's pretty.

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Speaker 2: Easy to let read out there.

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Speaker 4: And when you are asking continuously asking what are we

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doing here? Why are we calling that? You can't call

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that in that situation, like you have the final say

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of everything.

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Speaker 2: So that's why there was his his head on the

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chopping block.

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Speaker 4: I mean he has the overall save everything, but like look,

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I mean the antics on the sideline. It just it's

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a terrible look for not only your program, but let's

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talk about the individual players watching it too. Yeah, at

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the end of those players, of course, Like there's like

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coaches are gonna yell at players. Fine, whatever, there's a

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way to do it, there's a way not to do it.

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There's always needs to be mutual respect between that. But

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you that's part of being a coach. You have to

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know what works for players. You got to know them.

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There's a time and a place for everything. But I

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don't know if I've really ever seen a head coach

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Speaker 2: Of assistant coaches as much as I've seen it.

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Speaker 4: Maybe if tempers flair every like once in a while, Yeah,

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but usually it's they're getting after on the headsets, like

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talking to each other on the headsets, and they're not

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making a display of it. Yeah, it looked it was

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really obvious that it was what just happened. I don't

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know what just happened. I'm confused that why we did

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something or why we called something. I didn't step in

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to stop it. Now I need to go make sure

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that other person knows I'm blaming him for it. Yeah,

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of saying like I need to make sure everybody else

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knows it was somebody else's fault or what by that's.

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Speaker 2: Sure what it seemed like to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Charles says and said the Body four chat, saving

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yodic coaches. Yeah, when I talk about like yelling at coaches,

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it's the what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Why are we doing this?

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Speaker 3: It was also like the things that were being said

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that we're talking about. Yeah, at least for me, like

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viewing that and it's like, what are we doing? We

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can't do that on third and whatever with no timeout?

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It's okay, well one like and we'll get there. Trust

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me when I say we'll get there. The game breakdown

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of Texas A and M because again what the hell?

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head coach, it's like no, no, no, no, no no no,

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Speaker 2: That's no next.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Saving yells at his coaches like some.

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Speaker 2: Would yell at his coaches too.

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Speaker 3: It was like for the individual on the field that

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messed up, right, it would just yell at their position coach.

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Speaker 2: Right. It wasn't like what are you doing? Like, don't

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call it like this is? It was let's call it

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what it is, too like some people can.

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Speaker 4: If you do it naturally, you come off pretty all right,

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it looks natural. If you do it in a fake way,

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it comes off as a fake way, like you're trying

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to make a statement, like there's a way that like

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some people, like some people are are look cool when

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they use curse words. Some people just try too hard, right,

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it seems like this is one of those situations like

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I'm gonna yell to yell because I'm trying to pass

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess the buck stopped here. So there's gonna

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Speaker 3: What went wrong, and eventually we'll get to maybe what

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Speaker 2: And I know, look, this.

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Speaker 4: Is gonna be a lot of speculation. I mean, this

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isn't like, oh for sure, we don't we don't know facts.

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They don't have facts, And like I said, it'll trickle

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in throughout the day and we'll present them as they

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speculative and kind of talking about what's gonna what the

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Speaker 2: Is and and look, this is how this works.

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of rumors and I was

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telling y'all, like at nine am yesterday I had had UH, ESPN,

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Yahoo on three, every somebody from those like hues, and

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it was like I was like, guys, I'm just trying

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to get ready for these ten U flag football playoff games.

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I'm trying to jump onto trampoline with my daughter. Can

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y'all let this rest? But like, that's how this works.

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the next days and weeks, that's how it's going to work,

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and those guys are gonna find it out.

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Speaker 2: We'll have that information and we'll give it to you,

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so we'll.

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Speaker 3: Talk about the future, and we'll speculate on maybe which

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direction you go on here and more. And certainly in

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the first hour, it's more of what went wrong, what

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did not go right?

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Speaker 2: And you know, the.

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Speaker 3: More that you start to peel back the layers and

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you start to look at uh, you know, some of

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the conversation, a lot of the conversation has been this

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isn't new, it's been over the last gosh two years,

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two and a half years.

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Speaker 2: Is fit and this doesn't fit and that doesn't fit.

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Speaker 3: And I do wonder, like I understand that part of

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the conversation, but like more than just like not a fit,

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it's not he's not you know this, that and the other.

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The thing that like as you peel back the layers is.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't the.

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Speaker 3: Buy in to what you have to do to be

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LSU and win national championships.

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Speaker 2: So it's not.

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Speaker 3: Necessarily about fit, Like that's that's not the conversation.

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Speaker 2: That's a subjective term, Like like what does that mean?

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You don't have to people say you can't. No one

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Speaker 3: On it, right, You don't have to be somebody that

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graduated necessarily from LSU or from Louisiana, because we have

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seen others come here and buy in and love this

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place and you know, endear themselves to the fans and

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give you every single thing that they had to make

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sure they didn't disappoint you. And that's one of the

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things that you didn't see here, Like it wasn't the

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and I'm not saying they didn't work hard, you know,

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but you've got to fully give yourself over to a

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place and a job like this, right, And like when

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you hear some of the things of going on vacation

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during bye weeks, it's like, Okay, well, that's not that's

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not how you do this. That's not what you can do.

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You can't do those things like when you're in like

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critical time, during critical times. But I don't think ever

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like once once July fifteenth hits May in the NFL.

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two weeks later. It's we go into the football facility,

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we shut the door, we lock it, and we hide

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the key, and then in December we look for the

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key again. Right, we can take a little breather and

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then we go right back in. And that's what it is,

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that's what's all about. It's like everything you do from

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that time is focused on how do we make the

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LSU Tigers great?

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Speaker 2: And like that's some of the things that you didn't see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, like it or not. When you

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decide to take a job like this, when you decide

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to take that contract, when you decide to take that

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amount of money to do that job like it, that's

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that that's your life at that point, Like you have

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to be all in. You got to be sold at

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and you know, of course, like what we all we

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know is to talk about what we hear, right, and

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you go vacation on things you talk about, Uh, you know,

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there's rumors out there about not being in the office

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quite as much as we needed to be. But you

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talk about the fit. The fit thing has come up

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so much, and it's like such a it's such a

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glaring statement to me because you can't explain, you can't

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define what fit is. Obviously, it's not geological, it's not

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where you're from.

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Speaker 2: It's not about.

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Speaker 3: Any coach Miles. I mean, those guys.

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Speaker 4: Weren't nobody who's gonna be like besides coach Oh, Like,

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who's who you're gonna find in the same state that's

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gonna be hed got.

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Speaker 3: When when I think of what it takes to fit

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into his place, it's somebody like Jay Johnson. So Jay's

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from the West coast like that, he has no ties

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to Louisiana. But when Jay came here and I've and

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I've had conversations with Jay about this, like he wanted

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to be the Nick Saban of college baseball in his

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work ethic and what he gave to the program, Like

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you can't drive by the box. And Elandra can back

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me up on this because she goes over there and

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works baseball. You can't go to that stadium and not

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beat J there outlast Jay there, not see his car there.

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Like that's just the way that that guy works. And

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I'm not saying it's the only way to do it.

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But Jay Johnson gives every ounce of everything he has

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to make the LSU Tigers great in baseball. And if

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they lose, Elandra, you'll bat me up on this. If

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they lose, it's not because Jay didn't do everything he

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possibly could to have them prepared. Yeah, one hundred percent agreed. Like,

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like you said, he's from the West Coast, but he

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embodies what I feel it means to coach here at LSU.

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Speaker 2: Like he's passionate about it.

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Speaker 3: He s it's the thing he loves more than anything

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outside probably of his wife.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I mean you heard him that one time when he

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we lost I don't remember what series, and he was

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like I was up till like three am just staring

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at the moon, drinking orange juice, and we were like, Okay,

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this man's psycho, but I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So yes, I.

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Speaker 4: Think the people of Louisiana, like when they want when

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they talk about fit, they want somebody for one that's genuine.

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The two that when they say something, they know that

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they mean it. And like it got with this Brian

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Kellyer got off to a kind of a rocky start

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with that, right with the you know, we laugh about it,

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but the fake accent and all the just kind of

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it's like you can tell, like when somebody is truly,

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truly bought in and in it and authentic with it.

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I think the authentic being authentic is the key word here.

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Speaker 2: Authenticity. Authenticity.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a big word, but you know, you

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ask I'm asked all the time for years, and I've

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asked other people and I hear the people talking and

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it's like, hey, what do you think about Brian Kelly

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And it's like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good. Don't really know him, don't

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really know him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And and so when you don't know that, like

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the people of Louisiana, LSU fans want somebody that is

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all in, bought in to the program, and then that

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can tell when when that man speaks. It's like, I

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can I know it's in his heart when he speaks.

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I don't know if we've ever known that. Yeah, I

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guess we kind of like have the writing on the

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wall now, but I mean it's one of those things.

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Speaker 2: Fit to me is being genuine to.

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Speaker 4: Yourself and genuinely love and respect in the state of

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Louisiana and Louisiana State University. And you know, not to

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say that Brian didn't want to the will was there.

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I know, he gave his own money for, you know,

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to put into nil and do all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like I think the will was there. I don't know

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if the I don't know. I don't know if the

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love or the authenticity was ever there.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. That's all kind of speculations. What it's

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all opinion, that's subjective. But when I just when you

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ask people, hey, what do you think about keuny, like,

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I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I guess we got to wait and see. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't ever like the oh man, this was an

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awesome like so pumped up up about it?

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Speaker 2: What never that it was always I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, And that's that's an issue when you're

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three four years in it and you're still saying, I

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don't know, there's so.

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Speaker 3: Much and I know we actually we have a clock today,

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even though it's not gonna feel like it it's gonna

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be no, it's gonna be a little bit all over

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the place, and so we'll go ahead and get out

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in front of apologize to that.

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Speaker 2: But like even.

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Speaker 3: It's a small thing, and this isn't even like to

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do with our show, just more like the station in general,

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Like every single week, Jay Johnson comes on this radio

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show every single week, Kim Malke comes on this radio

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show every single week, Coach O came on this radio show.

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And again it could be Hunt Show, Matt Show, Hanney

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and I like, I don't I don't care more than

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station Brian Kelly went on Paul finebumb Show. And that's

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not to say that like don't do that. Oh my gosh,

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well how'd you mistreat us? I'm saying like Jay and

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Kim and coach are like they wanted to talk to

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LSU fans. They didn't necessarily they didn't care to talk

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to sec are their sport fans.

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Speaker 2: They wanted to talk to LSU fans.

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Speaker 3: And when we started doing that with Jay, like that

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was this one thing He's like, yeah, I'll do I

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don't want talk to LSU fans every Thursday, absolutely, like

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we'll do that every week, and that was him, like

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it wasn't even like us asking him to do.

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Speaker 2: It every week. He's like, we'll do this every week. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Those are the things that we're talking about. And it

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seems like a small thing, but those things start to

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pile up. And like, those coaches wanted to talk to

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LSU fans. They wanted to talk to the people that

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are listening to us right now. They wanted to talk

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to the people that are in the chat every single day.

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And they said that, like though, like.

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Speaker 4: When you talk to those coaches, you genuinely know who

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those people are as a person. Yeah, right, You genuinely

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know that they care about their program and about the

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kids on that team and about the fan base.

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Speaker 2: Like there's no there's no question in that. There's no

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I don't knows.

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Speaker 4: When you ask what their opinion of Kim Milky or

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Jay Johnson is, there's no I don't knows there and

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I just don't. We can't say that we ever truly

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whether he did or not, I don't know. It just

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the being genuine. It never seemed genuine, And that's what

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that's my definition of the fit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I don't on a map, I don't really

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care where you're from. I think it's all the things

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that we just talked about, something will continue to talk about.

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So many different tracks there we can go with this deal. Uh,

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you know, at some point we'll come back to what

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the record was.

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Speaker 4: And so we're gonna do we kind of have a

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thing on the show. We're gonna do it eulogy.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm down for this. Should we do the

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eulogy for every other coach? That's right?

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Speaker 4: We got a standard here on off the bench. Yeah,

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we can't make exceptions, right right, I don't think so. Well,

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let's know, in the chat, if you want us to

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do a eulogy, well maybe we'll do that. Maybe it's

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an hour three situation. Yeah, it feels like an hour

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three situation.

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Speaker 2: We're glad to have you here with us.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, big day four LSU Athletics and there's a lot

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of jobs that are open right now. But just know,

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and I don't care what anybody says. I'll fight anybody

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that almants to argue this point. The LSU job is

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the best job available because the LSU football job is

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a top three job in the sport. Regardless of what

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job was open, it would be in the top three.

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Even if you don't agree with that, you can deny

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it's a top five job.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is. You're LSU and who almost said

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a curse word there? And do it.

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Speaker 3: You are going to have the opportunity to change the

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direction of this program and get it back to the

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LSU standard if you handle it right. And we'll talk

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all about that when we come back here on OTV.

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Speaker 1: Off the bench.

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Speaker 3: What's the what situation for FCC finds And in a

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situation like this, I don't know, you gotta you gotta

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slap on the wrist type deal because your boy got

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sweat on the back.

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Speaker 4: I think they make exceptions for the situation like that

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if your coach like gets fired and if you do

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get fined, you know what you should be drinking.

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed a big boy, big do Sekis on Friday,

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had some some good old little superior set down.

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Speaker 2: I think it was.

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Speaker 3: It was a big old like it made it like

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it actually looked like it fit in my hand. If

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that it tells you exactly, go for dose. Maybe you're

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celebrating something, raise a glass, drink a dose, Sachi you

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want to be celebrating just saying I don't know. I'm

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just saying, weird. You gotta buye week. Maybe you get

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a little getaway playing. You should enjoy that with a dose. Sekis.

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Speaker 4: It's always a great time to go for dose. Go

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for dose at delicious Mexican lawyer. Make sure if you're

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gonna do it, drink responsibily. And like you said, if

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you're celebrating anything, make sure you're drinking. Do secis, go

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for dose.

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Speaker 1: Say no, I'm disco.

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Speaker 2: It ain't no country club either, This is La.

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Speaker 5: All I want to do is have a little fun

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before I die.

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Speaker 2: Just the man next to me out of nowhere.

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Speaker 3: Able, he says, his.

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Speaker 5: Name is William.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's.

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Speaker 1: Bill, William macer buddy, Let tigers turn talkers. This is

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off the bench.

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Speaker 5: Fine, we are drinking.

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Speaker 1: Beer and no not Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: The fun faced giant calm wash. The good people of

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the world are washing their cords on that lunch break, homes.

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Speaker 2: And a scramin as best they can skirt the su.

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Speaker 5: Drive, the shining dots and the buicks.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back, Yeah, OTV here lift in the

477
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Raising Kanes studio. One of the things that we didn't

478
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get to there in the in the first segment, and look,

479
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this is going to be all three hours, So if

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you're looking for anything else, probably not the place to

481
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be today. It's obviously the biggest news in Louisiana. It's

482
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the biggest news in the SEC, and it's one of

483
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the biggest news pieces in the country.

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Speaker 2: When Brian Kelly first got here, we first got.

485
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Speaker 3: Here, uh, look in LSU at the time, you know,

486
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it obviously wasn't going well, and we all know how

487
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many players you had, and look, it was it was

488
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going to be an uphill battle for sure.

489
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Speaker 2: Whatever, But.

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Speaker 3: We had been so used to a lot of the

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same people being around the program.

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Speaker 2: And you know, some.

493
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Speaker 3: People might look at that and be like, yeah, well

494
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when you when you bring somebody new and he needs

495
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to bring in his people, and you need to bring

496
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in some of your people for sure, for sure. But

497
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there was like everybody had to go mentality And even

498
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if you go back and listen to the shows that

499
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I even I don't even know what chills doing. I

500
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guess it would have been OTV at the time. It's

501
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like that was that didn't make total sense to me.

502
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And t Bob Okay, you got rid of you know,

503
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Corey Raymond, and you got rid of Blake Baker who

504
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was there.

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Speaker 2: And look, Blake is.

506
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Speaker 3: Like, I'm friends with Blake, like close with Blake. I

507
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don't mindset on that, and you can probably guess that.

508
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And Blake wanted to be here so bad and like

509
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his wife played soccer here like else you mean something, Louise,

510
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I mean some to him, and he was, you know,

511
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linebacker coach, and like you didn't retain Blake Baker, and

512
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so he goes to Missouri becomes a rising star, and

513
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then you had to go crawling back and hire Blake back.

514
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And Blake wanted to be here. We know Corey wanted

515
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to be here. You had to do the same thing.

516
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You had to try to right the wrong that you

517
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didn't do from the very beginning. Like those are a

518
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couple of people, but it's not just coaches. I mean

519
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it's people with inside the building that had been there forever,

520
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that had been through three national championships.

521
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Speaker 2: I think that.

522
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Speaker 3: Happens by chance, or you think those people knew what

523
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they were doing, and those people were a fabrica of

524
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the team and the school and what everything that it

525
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means is kind of going back to the same conversation,

526
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like those people in the building would have jumped on

527
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a grenade for LSU.

528
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Speaker 2: And they're not football coach.

529
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Speaker 3: If I'm just talking about people around the building, I'm

530
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talking about from every job that you can imagine, director

531
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of obs, director of recruiting, head coach, secretary like whatever, anything,

532
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Dietitian like whatever, it would have been, strength coach like

533
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like whatever it would have been.

534
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Speaker 2: Like those people would have jumped on a grenade for LSU.

535
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Speaker 3: And they've been through three three national championships with three

536
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different coaches, and it was like such a.

537
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Speaker 2: We gotta get rid of everybody.

538
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Speaker 3: And then you found yourself having to go back to

539
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multiple people that we're talking about there because you're like, oh, well, actually,

540
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they did do things.

541
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Speaker 2: The right way. They did have a deep desire.

542
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Speaker 3: For this program in this place, and they'd given their

543
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entire adult life to LSU and those three letters, and

544
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like you have to have those people in the building again,

545
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you want to bring in your own people.

546
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Speaker 2: I get that.

547
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Speaker 3: I understand that it's got to be a mixture of both,

548
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but it was over correction to say the least.

549
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Speaker 4: Like from the very get go all right, everything you're

550
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saying one hundred percent accurate. I want to talk about

551
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that from a former player perspective.

552
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Speaker 2: Since the as tenure began. And look, we.

553
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Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that we've known and heard

554
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for years right now, ving LSU fans were optimistic. We

555
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,559
hope things turn around, we hope their success. But when

556
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there's not, you know, these kind of things start to

557
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come to light from a former former, from a former

558
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player perspective. For the majority of people that I talked

559
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to that I played with, that we sweat with, we

560
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bled with, we fought with, and the people that came

561
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before us and the people that came after with after us,

562
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there was never there was always kind of a feeling

563
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that whether it's true or not, that they were felt

564
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that they were a little unwelcome in the facility at

565
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football ops. Now you could go, it was just there

566
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was a lot of different steps to have to go

567
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to go unless you were like a former like superstar

568
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person that you could kind of have the act says,

569
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but the access was kind of taken away from your

570
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former players.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna let you speak on this more than me,

572
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because I.

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Speaker 4: I just hear it from from the people that from

574
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everybody that we played with. Yeah, that's not like the

575
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superstars superstars, right, It's like they never felt really welcome

576
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like before this. But when coach Miles was here, coach

577
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O's Ronleigh welcome players that come back and work out

578
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in the facility. They had lockers, they had they everything

579
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was welcome. They would always ask for former players to

580
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come back and speak to the team, be around the team.

581
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So I think there was people felt isolated and they

582
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didn't like that about this this regime. Now, no one,

583
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you know, complained that much because we we were hopeful

584
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that you know, whatever new coach wants to do his

585
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own thing, doesn't want to doesn't want a ton of

586
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the former players back or around.

587
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Speaker 2: Fine, but you're better win. Yeah. Uh.

588
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Speaker 4: And in this day and age where you have this

589
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nil culture of you're paying players to come in. They

590
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might not have like in their heart of hearts, they

591
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might not bleed purple and gold, but they're there to

592
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play the sport as best they can. And you want

593
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to develop culture with a bunch of every single year,

594
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you got all these new you got all this turnover.

595
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You're gonna have more turnover next year, all these turnover

596
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new guys, people coming from different colleges all over the

597
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country that have signed somewhere else out of high school

598
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and they've transferred twice and now they're at LSU because

599
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they're getting paid and they got to play well in

600
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this world, I would think it'd be paramount, absolutely paramount

601
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for to have your former players that were here, that care.

602
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Speaker 2: That will die for this program.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that will absolutely do anything they can for that

604
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eye in the middle of the field. I would think

605
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you would want them around creating that culture, setting it

606
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all the time for these people that have transferred in

607
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because of money to come play football.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I'm glad. Guys are getting paid. I

609
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love it. It's great.

610
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Speaker 4: I would think you would want that culture to be

611
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set by people that have been there, and not just

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from the top guys, the guys that have you know,

613
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won the Heisman or All Americans, right, but from the

614
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guys that grinded, the guys that were position players, that

615
00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:23,480
were role players, guys that fought and scrapped and had

616
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to earn a scholarship in their second or third year

617
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because they just loved LSU so much.

618
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Speaker 2: And that was.

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Speaker 4: Whether right or wrong, whether this is correct or not,

620
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whether they meant to or not. It was taken away

621
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from a lot of that. And it started and when

622
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you want to isolate your former players a little bit

623
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more to what you were talking about, it started with

624
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as soon as Brian Kelly got here. It's like when

625
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:49,759
you go to you go get sent to prison, and

626
00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:51,680
you send a message about picking the biggest guy in

627
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the in the yard to fight. He went there and

628
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fired a man that every former player loved, Tommy Moffitt

629
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was loved by every single former player, and you went

630
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and you did him wrong and you fired him. And

631
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I don't know if you meant it or what. The

632
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,240
man had to pack up a cardboard box and the

633
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:12,759
optics of it were terrible, had to pack a box

634
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:16,039
load his car in the rain. And if you want

635
00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:18,799
to get rid of him, fine, that is your prerogative.

636
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You are welcome to bring in your own people. There's

637
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a way to do things. Not everybody is the same.

638
00:32:24,279 --> 00:32:28,079
And you isolated, I want to say, the majority of

639
00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:31,119
your former players. It got started on a rocky road

640
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,960
and a rough foot like that is not how you

641
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:36,279
endear yourself, especially in this in Io world.

642
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:37,119
Speaker 2: When you got to have.

643
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Speaker 4: Those guys around and you went and picked the biggest

644
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:41,319
guy in the yard, and you fired him.

645
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Speaker 2: And guess what, he.

646
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: Packed his bags, he reloaded his car in the rain,

647
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:48,599
and he just came and beat your ass in the rain.

648
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:56,039
Speaker 3: Oh twice the last two years in the second half.

649
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And that's after he was told that he's gonna be retained.

650
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And then got the rug pulled.

651
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Speaker 4: From yeah, out wrong way, and I got if you

652
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,440
picked the wrong person to do wrong enemy.

653
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Speaker 3: And last one before we take a break. We're gonna

654
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try to stay on the clock as much as we can.

655
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Speaker 2: It's it's not gonna be easy.

656
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: I remember somebody from and I don't know who it is.

657
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:27,759
They're not here anymore. And there's a lot of people

658
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in and out from here and there, from Notre Dame whatever.

659
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I remember somebody telling me because I asked that question,

660
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because there was there was a story of Ethan Postik

661
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,240
was in the weight room and Ethan's still playing in

662
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,960
the NFL, by the way, and he was like back

663
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,799
working out in the weight room, and almost like was asked,

664
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:45,359
like what are you doing in here? It's like I'm

665
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:47,960
working out like play real shoe, like I'm in the NFL,

666
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,279
like we always do this and and so like that's

667
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:53,160
where it started. And I'm like, hey, like why is

668
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,759
that happening? Like why is that going on? Because like

669
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,920
we used to have lockers in here where we worked out,

670
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:01,400
and like they would keep like if we were in

671
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,680
the NFL, we had a locker, we had a loop,

672
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:06,799
we had like and they embraced it, and they said, well,

673
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,199
you know, being in South Bend, Indiana, like nobody's from there,

674
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,519
and so like nobody lives there and nobody moves back there,

675
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,280
and so like it's never really been a thing, and

676
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,760
so it's just it's overwhelming for all the people that

677
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:25,719
still live around the program and they are still wanting

678
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,559
to be in the building, Like we just haven't ever

679
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:29,920
really had to deal with that, yeah, and so we're

680
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,400
trying to navigate how to deal with that. That was

681
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,920
the answer that I got when I asked the question,

682
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because it made me angry because I'm like, Ethan's like Ethan,

683
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,079
like it's not from here, Ethan came here, Ethan was

684
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:42,440
a great player here, Ethan's still a great player, still.

685
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,039
Speaker 2: Playing in the NFL.

686
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Speaker 3: And that was the answer that I got, was it

687
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,159
was overwhelming because nobody moved back to South Bend and

688
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,320
tried to come back to the facility at Notre Dame,

689
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:53,320
and so they didn't know how to handle all of

690
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us still living here and wanting to be around the program.

691
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 2: And they didn't handle it. Nope, they did not.

692
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,639
Speaker 4: So hey isolate for the former players, and you lose

693
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:07,280
a pretty big what could have been a good support.

694
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:11,639
Speaker 3: And I also think it means something that we do

695
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,320
move back here. I'm not from here. I'm from Treport

696
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,920
from Louisiana. I'm not from Baton Rouge. That's not from here.

697
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,320
He's from Texas. Dick Dixon's not from here. He's from

698
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,119
Motion Springs, Mississippi. I mean, we could go on and

699
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:29,559
on of the people that aren't from Baton Rouge aren't

700
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:32,119
from South Louisiana. But where do we find our way

701
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:34,960
back to Baton Rouge in South Louisiana?

702
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: Because we we we were just a place. We were fit,

703
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,840
we were fit, we were fed.

704
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,199
Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a break more OTB when we

705
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,159
come back here live.

706
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:45,199
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Speaker 1: Locked in ULSU football twenty four to seven. You're listening

731
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:08,880
to off the bench.

732
00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:12,599
Speaker 5: Two Day's gonna be the day that they're gonna throw

733
00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:17,159
it back to you. By now, you should have somehow

734
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:22,679
realized what you gotta do. I don't believe that anybody

735
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:32,119
feels the way I had to about you now backbe

736
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:34,800
the weather's on the street, that the fire in your

737
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,159
heart is out. I'm sure you've heard it all before,

738
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,199
but you never really had it out. I don't believe

739
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,239
that anybody feels the way I to about you now.

740
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:54,519
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to you and OTB here last

741
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:55,079
in Raize.

742
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: King Studio.

743
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,159
Speaker 4: Got some good news. Yeah, votes are in in the

744
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,760
chat our three. There will be a eulogy happening on

745
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,679
this show. All right, let it get to typing.

746
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: Might be electric, might be uh, a lot of like

747
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:18,599
why are y'all just now speaking on this? I should

748
00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:20,800
have been talked about like you don't get the you

749
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,559
don't get to get then, Like the last thing I'm

750
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:28,360
gonna do and UH is give any other fan base

751
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,719
or anybody else like the opportunity to crap on LSU

752
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:34,280
Like you're gonna try to figure it out internally.

753
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,119
Speaker 2: You're gonna try to speak to the right people.

754
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: You're gonna try to like I said, like I spoke

755
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:43,159
up and spoke out for former players, and look, I'll

756
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:45,119
give Jake Flint the Strengths coach a lot of credit.

757
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:48,000
Like Jake, Jake started to like say, you know, we're

758
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,800
gonna have some former guys that are able to work

759
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,239
out in here.

760
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: Right.

761
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: So like, if I'm out there and I'm doing that

762
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:54,800
instead of trying to fix the problem, if I'm just

763
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,639
sitting here whining about it, then that doesn't help my school.

764
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,760
And I'm gonna do everything i can to help those

765
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,639
three letters. And so that's just the way that I'm

766
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:07,360
going to handle that in those situations. I'm not just

767
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,119
with this coaching staff for them. I'm gonna try to

768
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:13,960
figure out how do we help LSU and how do

769
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:16,079
we try to fix those wrongs.

770
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 4: And there's one thing like if you want to do

771
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,920
it's your way, that's that that pisses some people off,

772
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,760
make some people upset. It's fine, but you better succeed

773
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,199
at it, right, So you don't like it. Just because

774
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,119
somebody is like not pleased with something doesn't mean that

775
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:33,440
they need to go out and speak.

776
00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: Out about it. Because you're still hopeful.

777
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: It's the three letters, it's LSU, man, You we still

778
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:40,199
want the most success no matter what.

779
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: So and those things are happening in person, real conversations

780
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,639
to try to fix those wrongs.

781
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:56,639
Speaker 4: So so kudos man, kudos to the people that stepped

782
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,599
up to make a decision. I know there's no you know,

783
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,840
right time to do something like this, and I know

784
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,039
it's I don't think that many people thought it could

785
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:09,880
be done. From a financial perspective. How is it going

786
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,239
to do? How's all come together? We still don't know how.

787
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,679
I know the conversations on the buyout are still being discussed.

788
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,639
I guess quote from a lot of different people. What

789
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:21,400
does that mean. I'll tell you, well, we don't know.

790
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:24,840
I've no idea. I don't know if you could settle it.

791
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,960
I don't know the details on it. Everybody that it'll

792
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,480
it'll come out, it'll trickle out.

793
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Speaker 3: It seems like everybody that we talked to seems to

794
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,639
think that it's not going to be the fifty three

795
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,840
million dollars right to know how that's possible, But you know,

796
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,480
I don't know how it's possible either. I don't know

797
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:42,880
what those conversations are like.

798
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Speaker 2: I know it takes like another job.

799
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,519
Speaker 4: If off like the payment off sets like in the

800
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you know contracts in the NFL, like if you were

801
00:40:48,559 --> 00:40:51,239
getting paid and get cut, whoever you know signs you

802
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,400
next that money you get there, you don't get it

803
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,199
from both teams. So I don't know if it's a

804
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,920
situation like that, but coaches contracts are out of control.

805
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:05,280
I know that, absolutely out of control. It's ludicrous. I said, ludicrous, looted.

806
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:12,440
I'm pretty proud of that one. We could tell you celebrated.

807
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,079
I got to have the tiger on today, so love

808
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:18,599
l s Uh. I mean, oh, you got the old

809
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:21,440
school old school Well.

810
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 3: I figured, uh, it needed to be.

811
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: It needed to be an old school day. Right, let's

812
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,559
go need to be an old school day. It needed

813
00:41:28,559 --> 00:41:32,119
to be. Should your neck a little, this is a day.

814
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:34,639
Don't tempt me with a good time. But let's go.

815
00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:35,840
Frank bring the fullback back.

816
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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, if anybody would, my man Frank would do it.

817
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,519
There's no doubt about that.

818
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:49,679
Speaker 2: Why not. Couldn't be, couldn't hurt? It would be a

819
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:50,280
bad thing.

820
00:41:50,519 --> 00:41:52,679
Speaker 3: At some point, again, we're gonna try to catch up

821
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,639
on the clock here this segment, but at some point,

822
00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:57,440
like there's things that that we do want to show

823
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,400
on tape as well, like in this A and M game,

824
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:02,679
the good, the bad, the ugly. There was some things

825
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:04,400
that were good in the run game. I think you

826
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,679
have an emerging star at running back.

827
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:09,039
Speaker 2: I think that.

828
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: You have a couple of positions that played their best game.

829
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,119
I think trade s Green and Matt pointed it out

830
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:18,599
multiple times this morning already to me, I think he

831
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:21,960
played his best game as an LSU Tiger. So there's

832
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,199
things to highlight, and obviously there's a lot of things

833
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,519
that went bad. You can't give up two sacks against

834
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:30,039
those edge rushers where you didn't touch them, like, you

835
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,320
didn't put a hand on them, you didn't whisper to

836
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,719
them like. Those things can't happen. So we'll get to

837
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,480
that as well. But it is going to be all

838
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,280
LSU all day. We'll continue that process when we come

839
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,119
back here. It is OTB Live from the Raise of

840
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:45,760
Kine Studio. Off the bench, all right, go to go

841
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Tommies dot com, Ga Tommies dot com, Go Bearded dot

842
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com as well. We've been telling you they got that

843
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,199
contest going on here in early November. What a cool

844
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,280
deal that they've got going on. And you know Tommy,

845
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,920
he's obviously passionate and they're going to give all the

846
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:02,239
private to CIA here in Baton Rouge.

847
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: Right, So they're doing this for charity as well. Cool

848
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,440
cool event that.

849
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: They've got going on in different categories. Different beard links

850
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,519
are going to be in the competition. Mustache, So maybe

851
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:15,599
maybe I find my nab so I got.

852
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,039
Speaker 4: A couple of weeks still, you know a little bit

853
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,320
or I'm like composer now kind of kind of kind

854
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:20,840
of shave it.

855
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Speaker 3: You might need some just from end to make sure

856
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:25,719
that fills in. Uh, go to go Tommy dot com.

857
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Go to go Bearded dot com.

858
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Speaker 4: If you're going to good luck beating Tommy Beard. I mean,

859
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,719
my god, it's gorgeous.

860
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: Gorgeous.

861
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Speaker 4: Hey, if you've got a project happening, windows, doors, siding,

862
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they are the best lifetime warranties on other projects. They

863
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will guarantee anything that they install. So if you have

864
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a project in place, round make sure you give Tommy's

865
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,000
a call to get a price and just talk to

866
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them about the project. They are the best. Go Tommies

867
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:53,000
dot com.

868
00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: Oh, locked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven.

869
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,880
You're listening to off the Bench.

870
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in OTV, laughing to raise a

871
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,719
kines studio. One thing I'll say, and I saw something

872
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,840
the chatting that Look, we appreciate you all being in here.

873
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,199
Almost fifteen hundred people watching right now, so we do appreciate.

874
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,039
Love the interaction, keep them coming, good, bad and different. Agree,

875
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:42,519
disagree whatever you know us we're going to interact regardless.

876
00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:45,000
One of the things I did see though, like, can

877
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:48,199
you can you have teams play hard? Can you have

878
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,920
the same passion that you are talking about in today's

879
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:52,519
age of college football?

880
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: Yes? And I said it last week.

881
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:57,039
Speaker 3: I want to remind people that the let's see the

882
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:59,800
number two team in the country.

883
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: Let's see.

884
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make sure I get their rankings right now.

885
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,559
I know we're coming up on this. Yeah, the number

886
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:07,119
two team in the country, the number eight team in

887
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:09,360
the country, and the number nine team in the country,

888
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,679
and the number ten team in the country. That's Indiana,

889
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:15,119
that's Georgia Tech, that's Vanderbilt, and that's BYU. Turn on

890
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:17,960
the tape, watch those teams and tell me that you

891
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,159
don't see teams playing like they used to, Teams playing

892
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,880
hard as hell, teams giving you everything they've got.

893
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:26,679
Speaker 2: Those players.

894
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: Look, every one of those teams outside of BYU. They

895
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,320
got transfer quarterback, they got transfers all over the place.

896
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,760
So it's not you can't take a transfer. No, you

897
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,880
have to set a culture. And when you set the

898
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,440
culture and you set the expectation, it's non negotiable. It's

899
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,880
not we hope you do it. You have to do

900
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,320
it or you won't be here. This is what we have.

901
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:47,880
This is our DNA, and if you don't buy in,

902
00:45:48,199 --> 00:45:50,679
we'll find somebody that will. And that's why their top

903
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,679
ten teams in the country. More OTB. When we come back,

904
00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:55,960
our number two off the bench,