WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:02.359 This is India Today Podcasts. 2 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:10.480 You are on India Today Podcasts and you are in 3 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:14.439 the Sledging Room. Let me warn you this is not 4 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:17.559 a place for the faint hearted and the weak need 5 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:21.079 If you're a sports buff and like challenging everything you 6 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:24.440 see and your stay, if you're as soon as Batya fan, 7 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:25.719 walk away. 8 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:43.280 Right now, we're back for another episode of Sledging Room. 9 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:47.280 So today we have with us. That means we are 10 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:51.359 going to talk about Club World Cup. There were what 11 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:55.880 about it, like, what was the tournament successful with Chelsea 12 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:57.560 perfect perfect? 13 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:02.759 Chaotic into a chaotic too damit PSG eating trashed. A 14 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:05.680 lot of people slept nicely, a lot of people didn't 15 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:11.400 be So I think this entire tournament was like setting 16 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:14.879 up the ground only and ironically that that has been the. 17 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:16.280 Problem ground itself. 18 00:01:16.840 --> 00:01:20.280 So overall, okay, I think it still has a lot 19 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:22.840 more space to cover up to be called a major 20 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:27.959 tournament so far, but overall good first image, great, but. 21 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:31.120 There was no problems with the ground here sor yeah, 22 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:33.519 but what was your emotion when India lost by twenty 23 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:37.560 two runs the Lorts Tests July seventeen. You were at 24 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:39.560 home right as you finished your shift and you went 25 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:42.079 back home and I told you to leave early. You 26 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:44.200 were waiting here and waiting for the wickets to fall 27 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:47.280 in the first session. But by the I thought by 28 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:49.519 the time you'd reach home, which is around forty minutes 29 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:50.000 from office. 30 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:51.920 Right, yes, India, will we bowled out? 31 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:57.920 But Ravindra, Jadeja, Mamatsiraj and Jaspert Boomra held on, fought on. 32 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:01.719 But in the end thing, right, can we look at 33 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:02.239 it that way? 34 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:05.000 As in like, I still don't know what to make 35 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:08.479 of the Test match itself where India lost time yet 36 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:09.000 to figure out. 37 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:12.439 Yeah, whether Jadeja what what. 38 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:14.400 Was the purpose of Jadeja's innings, Like, if you lose 39 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:16.120 by seventy runs, it's the same, if you lose by 40 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:16.599 twenty two. 41 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:18.840 Runs, it's the same. I kind of don't know. 42 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:23.800 See, when the match was happening, first thing I would 43 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:26.199 like to correct you, I was not saying that towards 44 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:29.199 the fall of wickets, I was hoping that some or 45 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:31.360 the other batteries start hitting and we will get to target. 46 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:36.159 Then when I reached home and I was watching the match, 47 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:38.080 you were covering the match in office, and we were, 48 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:41.879 of course it lean touched with each other there was 49 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:45.400 some hoop that somehow we will reach towards the target 50 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:48.680 and somehow we will scale it. But that didn't happen. 51 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:52.000 And you know what, you have to credit the England 52 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:55.159 bowlers for that, no doubt what that. But somehow it 53 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:57.840 feels like, you know, we did not lose the Test 54 00:02:57.840 --> 00:02:59.439 match in the last session or the second last session. 55 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:02.000 We lost a testmash on the last session of day four. 56 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:05.800 Were our top order battles, especially our open yes as 57 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:09.000 well and our captain Schumann Gill. They were clueless and 58 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:12.759 they actually threw away wickets. Had those top order battles, 59 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:16.360 you will score twenty runs. You might have been just 60 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:19.719 two runs away from victory when Silas got out. A 61 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:22.280 lot of what ifs, a lot of what ifs. That 62 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:25.039 that's how sports is. So yesterday when I said just 63 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:31.159 like I knew it, the you don't know they was 64 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:34.719 you think it's what if? You know when I was 65 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.400 watching a Test match when it got over where I messaged. 66 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:39.759 You guys, my money will watch this, please speak. 67 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:47.599 Should know so why you shouldn't bring kids, that things 68 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:50.240 should be near. You would have talked, talked about his 69 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:54.319 flings everything. Yeah, and knowing that his wife would watch 70 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:55.400 the podcast. 71 00:03:56.599 --> 00:03:58.919 Sort of. Yeah, sorry for interrupting you. You we're talking 72 00:03:58.919 --> 00:03:59.919 about the message. 73 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:02.280 Right, Yeah, So I messaged you and then I posted 74 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:05.280 a tweet on social media. You saw that too, because 75 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:07.800 the first thing which came to my mind after that 76 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:12.840 heartbreaking wicket of Siraj was that tweet of Jiminisham that 77 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:16.240 he did exactly six years ago when Newsald lost that 78 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:20.959 final on boundary acount rule, and he tweeted, kids, don't 79 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:24.600 take up sport, take up making or something. Die at sixty, 80 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:27.920 really fat and happy because, as I said in my tweet, 81 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:31.800 more often than not, sports always breaks your heart and 82 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:34.720 I did yesterday. Not just mine, I think millions of 83 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:38.680 fans of India who were clinged to their TVs, to 84 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:41.279 their phones, laptops where they were watching the match and 85 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:45.519 they were hoping that Jadeja and Siraj will finally scale 86 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:46.000 the target. 87 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:47.000 That didn't happen. 88 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:49.639 So it was heartbreaking, to be very frank with you, 89 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:53.360 But I will not blame Judija for any of it. Yes, 90 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:55.639 you know, as they were said, there are too many 91 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:59.680 what and if you could have expected that Hajdeja hit 92 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:01.959 a cup boundaries when he was batting with Boomera, things 93 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:05.120 would have been different in the last last session, but. 94 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:05.920 Those things does not matter. 95 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:08.959 Lize because I heard someone I don't know who said 96 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:12.000 it that when the Duke's ball got softer, it was 97 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:13.040 very tough to hit it. 98 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:17.079 I think Schumann explained it beautifully. Yeah, he defended in 99 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:19.480 the press conference saying that, you know, they waited for 100 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:21.959 the second new ball, which was eventually four five point one. 101 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:22.480 Oh was away. 102 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:24.959 I think when India got bold out, so when the 103 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:26.879 harder ball comes in, they could have taken a couple 104 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:29.639 of risks and scored those boundaries. Yeah, I accept like 105 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.480 Jadeja had, you know, Stokes had the field spread. Whenever 106 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.800 Jeeja was playing, at least six seven fielders were outside 107 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:38.399 outside the ring and it was difficult for him to 108 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:40.759 find the gaps. But sort of why did he not 109 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.079 take those ones and twos and why did he not 110 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:45.360 try to hit boundaries when he was even facing Showy 111 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:48.279 But she Joe Root and Chris Folks, who were relatively 112 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:50.480 getting lesser moment from the deck on day five pitch. 113 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:54.000 You know, I think when you watch the match, he 114 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:57.199 realized that the reserve. When he was getting through this partnership, 115 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:00.360 he was not batting with someone like Gil or Punt 116 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:02.839 or kill Rale. He was batting with the tail enders 117 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:05.560 who are not who had not performed an entirely. 118 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:08.879 You hitting boundaries was the only way you could have 119 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.279 gone for a win. No, there was always another way. 120 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:14.160 Because at one point it looked like was playing for 121 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:16.639 a draw. No, it looked like he was playing. 122 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:19.360 He knew that he had thirty tents to score from totovers, 123 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.399 so he just had to keep the striker dating everywhere 124 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:26.000 and make sure that the wicate does not fall, because 125 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:27.759 you know, when when you have got one or two 126 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.319 wickets left, I don't know how many you can take. 127 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:32.879 Especially you know what happened. You saw what happened to Boomera. 128 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:36.920 He was batting beautifully, he defended everything, and that one 129 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:39.839 rash shot and he got out. And everybody was cursing 130 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.560 Boomera as if Boomra had the responsibility to take us 131 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:43.360 through the target. 132 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:44.920 He's not a water battery. 133 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:48.160 It has been a very weird criticism from you know, 134 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:52.040 people watching the sport on day four when got out there, 135 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:54.079 like why did kill not shield that? Oh my god, 136 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:56.920 the very concept of night Watchmen is gone. 137 00:06:56.959 --> 00:06:57.120 There. 138 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:00.160 We look at it like that J so like four three, 139 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.279 four batters go tumble down in front of him, so 140 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:05.240 that in his mind it's going on that I have 141 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:06.800 to say, my wicked, I might have to go for 142 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:08.600 a win, like you said. Even if he has to 143 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:11.240 go for a wicked, even if he had to hit 144 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:13.360 those boundaries, he had to wait for that time. He 145 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:17.240 had to somehow survived down there, which none of the 146 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:19.959 other batters were doing. So I think a little bit 147 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:23.120 of a fear factor that, Okay, if I take that single, 148 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:26.720 bring seraja, bring someone back on strike, they will go back. 149 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:30.120 And I think it comes from the old Amazonian school 150 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:31.040 of teasing targets. 151 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:32.639 I thought he was leaving it for the last two. 152 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:37.319 Take the game deep, take the game deep, and when 153 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:39.839 it's the time and occasion, when one or two was 154 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.160 the winning, just go bang bang. But it did not materialize, 155 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:45.480 and SI got out, and it was quite a hard 156 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:46.839 breaking and unlucky dismissal. 157 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:50.120 One thing I could relate to was taking a lou break. 158 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:57.160 I've always wondered. I've always wondered Hilary such high pressure. 159 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:00.439 Imagine in my school days when I was giving, when 160 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:04.360 I was going for this elecution and all whatever it is, however, 161 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:06.680 how many how much ever you have prepared, planned and 162 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:10.879 all that, just that five times before that, just before 163 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:16.600 the school, just before yourself. You know, the bathroom what 164 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:19.759 I read a copy on India only that bathroom something 165 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:23.879 bathroom friend or something like that. Doesn't it You use 166 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:28.800 the bathroom to you know, went out. 167 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:30.879 To relax, to get confidence and just release the pressure off. 168 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:33.519 When I when was walking rushing out of the ironic, 169 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:38.720 was rushing out of the loop, I thought, Okay, yes 170 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:40.919 this is gonna be has relieved all his pressure. 171 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:42.879 You're gonna go for this. 172 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:45.480 I thought of a copy also how the lou Break 173 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:47.720 tastes it turned out for India. 174 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:52.320 But actually was keeping copy like this copy of Thedia 175 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:54.240 winning this game. And I've got these many ideas lined 176 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:57.759 up here. Only time I can relate to a sports person, 177 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:02.799 right like the Loo Break. Otherwise, Yeah, watching sport is 178 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:05.279 the only thing that we are doing. And you guys 179 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:07.759 are not coming for the weekend morning. 180 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:12.480 Cricket, which I'm putting on record, like, yeah, we have 181 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:14.639 been playing we had been playing cricket. 182 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:17.720 How long was it? It's been like one year since 183 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:23.600 we tried our handst pickle ball. Yes. 184 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:27.120 But the thing is I read one tweet which was 185 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:31.080 quite interesting which said India as a sporting nation never 186 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:31.919 has had luck? 187 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:33.799 Is that true? 188 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:37.840 Like when was the last time, especially in cricket, luck 189 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:43.919 favored in maybe the t apart from the heart breaks 190 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:46.879 ninety champions, you comprehensively won it. 191 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:50.159 No comprehension. Maybe that maybe the. 192 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:54.000 War with Pakistan is allowed something that probably I needed 193 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:57.480 green that But think about this nineteen ninety nine, the 194 00:09:57.519 --> 00:10:04.799 same same dismissal that. Yeah, and even on day five 195 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:08.120 at Lord's I saw the replay Siraj Middle that ball, 196 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:11.799 Middle that ball. It wasn't like he was, you know, 197 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:15.679 trying to badle it away or got an inside edge. 198 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:17.840 How on earth does it go on? 199 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:17.960 It? 200 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:21.440 The guy who has a broken finger on his left ear. 201 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:24.519 He of course credit to him for that fielding effort 202 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:27.240 as well, he was in the deep fielding. But do 203 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:29.279 you agree with that as in like, I don't know, 204 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:32.799 is football down to luck or how. 205 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:34.720 Is it football down to luck? 206 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:35.039 Yeah? 207 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:35.639 Big time? 208 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:38.200 But not luck alone. 209 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:40.440 No, No, I'm saying, I'm asking from the Indian perspective. 210 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:43.440 Indian perspective for football luck luck is luck is the 211 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:44.080 last thing. 212 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:45.919 That Indian football needs to focus on right now. 213 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.639 But sortatly, what do you think is is that something true? 214 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.279 Or is it just a moment of frustration wented out 215 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:54.320 on social media? No, no, see, I have always believed, 216 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:57.679 whether in life or in sports, you need hard work, 217 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:01.799 but you always need luck to make it. Any cricketer, 218 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:05.559 any successful person, cannot say that I have worked hard 219 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:06.200 and I am here. 220 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:08.919 Everybody who works hard going to their own limits. But 221 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:12.919 only when luck favors you you get that push. You 222 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:15.440 take the examples of Amazonian every cricketer. 223 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:19.240 Twenty nineteen World Cup. Ye run out exactly. You never 224 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:23.519 know how because like last year, this is only you 225 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:26.039 on the ipea. But that was the captain you know 226 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:29.600 how came back to the our suicide. Love Media was 227 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:32.200 part of the squad. He was not even picked, but 228 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:36.039 that was unsold in the auction. And then Sisudia gets injured, 229 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:40.840 but that gets called up. He performs well, he becomes 230 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:44.320 a regular part of that side. He and then he 231 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:46.279 becomes a captain. He helps him in this first title. 232 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:49.840 So luck will has always have to be one factor 233 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:53.600 that helps you. And England had the luck because they 234 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:56.720 bowl their hearts out. You have to create what Benzokes did. 235 00:11:57.080 --> 00:11:59.440 I've been bowling one after the over. Oh my god, 236 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:01.279 there's the camera. 237 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.720 Yeah. 238 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:08.240 So see, we have always been fans of good sporting moments, 239 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:12.360 and I have no shine in admitting that Benstrokes proved 240 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:12.720 me wrong. 241 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:15.399 If as a captain he can step up with the 242 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:16.879 ball with the bat, that is what you. 243 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:19.200 Expect from a captain, whether it's a new captain or 244 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:22.399 opposing captain. And hats off two Binstrokes for the performance 245 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:23.080 he did with the ball. 246 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:27.639 I think enjoying this apology more than no I have. 247 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:30.639 I have no qualms in excepting that he is Benstrokes 248 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.480 put me wrong, because for once it felt like it 249 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:35.559 was his mission to take every wicket by himself. 250 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:38.720 He did not receive. I think eleven I was on trot, 251 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:42.720 but nine one spell the spell. So if a. 252 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:46.759 Captain who two days ago there were murmurs that he's injured, 253 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:50.000 he had growing injury, and then the way he's bowling, 254 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:53.480 oh my god, that's sensational, and then you can't discount 255 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.879 to a furarger, that's spell. For a guy who is 256 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:59.399 making playing his first chest match in four or five years, 257 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:01.919 who was who played I feel what he was injured. 258 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:04.279 He was part injured, he was part fit. And the 259 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:09.320 way he came in running sensational Pun's wikid was, oh 260 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:12.159 my god, how do you let him? Let Pun play 261 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:16.039 one r there? That forty thirty runs would have come there, 262 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:17.120 definitely both sides. 263 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:18.799 Like you go to the first standings too. 264 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:21.399 Ifshop Puns would have stayed there, if there was not 265 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:24.240 that silly run out there, twenty to thirty runs more 266 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:25.200 would have done the trick here. 267 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:28.159 That's what's turn out like. So yeah, raship punt has 268 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:30.320 been the luck focus here in this match. 269 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:34.080 But like you said, even Stokes wonderfully explained that. You know, 270 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.279 on the morning of the fifth day, he kind of 271 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:40.399 went up to Archer and said, Archer, you and I 272 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:42.120 have to do it because six years ago in the 273 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:44.879 twenty nineteen world these two were the ones who did 274 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:47.519 it for England. So he had that hunch because Brighton 275 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:50.639 Cars bowled wonderfully well on day for evening, but England 276 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:53.080 didn't start with the Bridon cars. Yeah, they went with 277 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:56.480 Joffra and Stokes. Sometimes a lot of us were wondering 278 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:59.720 why is brid and Cars not bullying? Even our Ushmin 279 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.360 tweet it that Javra shouldn't be bowling right now, but 280 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:06.360 then inspired spell. These are things that you know, like 281 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:08.679 we always talk about luck, but sometimes you make your 282 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:11.240 own luck right, like you kind of push it. 283 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:12.879 You bowld those spells. 284 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:16.480 You broke open the match in the first two basically, 285 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:19.360 like you pointed out fifty eight for four on day 286 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:21.840 four at stumps and then the morning when you were 287 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:25.000 expected to see you off the first star and get 288 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:27.480 into that. You know, no complaints about Duke's ball because 289 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:29.320 you were you were. 290 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:32.759 Siraj might have one complaint for that final diss He 291 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:33.440 might have worked. 292 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:35.080 We will now go back. 293 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:38.759 And I was just wondering if Siraj had won the match, 294 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:41.639 he would have probably got a live man with the 295 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:42.600 kind of celebrating. 296 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:49.279 Yeah, maybe it's all for good only, and why we 297 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:50.159 discuss everything. 298 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:52.320 I have one point to make and I asked, I'll 299 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:55.320 ask both of you, do you agree with the center 300 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:59.919 frompiring in this dismatch, especially for all rifles. 301 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:02.720 It's a very tough job. I understand it's a very 302 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:03.120 tough job. 303 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:06.559 But when you are a member of icy panel and 304 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:11.679 you're in spears and pair and you are actually officiating 305 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.559 in a test match at lots shouldn't you be more 306 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:17.639 careful of course, and you shouldn't you be making less 307 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:18.480 of their mistakes? 308 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:22.200 There were quite a few blunders. Was given out yeah, 309 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:25.159 and it clearly was sitting outside the. 310 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:27.240 Line of theis think that the whole Like we have 311 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:30.159 a problem with that in football, like var the problem 312 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.639 with VR in football that referee refereeing decisions are getting loose, 313 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.600 that they are depending too much on their mistakes to 314 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:37.679 also get corrected there. 315 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:40.480 So do you think that's the same scenario with when. 316 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.200 The technology has come in? Maybe the umpires are taking 317 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:45.759 it lightly? Is that what you're accusing? I'm asking not 318 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:50.000 see even whenever it is, it's like it's just like 319 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:52.440 you're going on a boat and then you know that 320 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:53.840 you have a life jacket, you will take it a 321 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:56.559 little lightly, right like when you don't have it, you 322 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:57.519 know that, Okay, I. 323 00:15:57.559 --> 00:16:00.759 Have to get In cricket, those decisions actually go on 324 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:04.039 to narrate terms. If it's an umpire's call, then that's. 325 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:04.480 The biggest call. 326 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:07.120 With some call like Jurud was given not out yeah, exactly, 327 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:09.039 and then it turned out to be an ambass call 328 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:11.039 and then he went on score twenty more runs. 329 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:13.440 Those listeners could give in the game. 330 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:18.039 But you know, yeah, we argued, if we don't have 331 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:21.240 umpires call, then it becomes very abstract. If everything that 332 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:24.799 hits the stumps is out, then it's all done. 333 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:26.039 No, I am not saying that. 334 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:29.279 What I personally believe is I understand that umpiring the 335 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:31.960 job where you're always on the edge of the knife. 336 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:35.000 I understand that, and there's a lot of pressure and 337 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:37.879 risk involved in this the way when you are making 338 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:41.279 new decisions. But for I, you see, they should I 339 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:44.960 think they review every umpire's performance. I think they should 340 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:47.840 release test matches after a test match, and they should 341 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.399 take some call, like when you impose finds some players, 342 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:53.240 you should impose some finds or some disciplactions should be 343 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:54.000 taken against some pires. 344 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:58.639 Also maybe some ranks of empires something something, because that 345 00:16:59.399 --> 00:16:59.840 you know what I have. 346 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:03.480 You know, one bad decision and you lose a test 347 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:06.000 match and it might turn out to be an important 348 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:09.279 factor when you're in the recurring for the doubles final spot. 349 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:12.559 So these are things which ICY needs to take care. 350 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:16.079 Maybe they should take a call on umpires, they should 351 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:18.680 give some word it's something. 352 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:22.559 Or like maybe yeah, like a review process of Privy 353 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:24.079 Test match, like you pointed out, Yeah. 354 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:26.720 I'm not blaming the umpires. They're humans, and humans, as 355 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.799 we know, are thrown to errors. But still, when you're umpiring, 356 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:33.359 it means that you have a certain level of correct 357 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:36.160 right right righteousness, so you should. 358 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:39.440 Be making those with more responsibility. But yeah, the umpiring 359 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:41.799 standards in this test match was horrendous. Yeah, and it 360 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:45.279 looked like every time an Indian batter was in the middle, 361 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.799 the appeal was the appeal was kind of given out. 362 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:52.039 It might have been coincidence, but it looked like it. 363 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:54.799 Even when Corona got out. Yeah, I don't think a 364 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:57.079 lot of English players appealed for it. No, not a 365 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:00.000 lot of umpire was very very sure fingers. 366 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.400 It was a dead, wicked, dead plumb decision. I understand. 367 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:04.119 I understand. 368 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:09.000 Even even our Bangladeshi friend Psycha had a tough tough time. 369 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:12.839 I think umpiring all these are really panel umpires like 370 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:15.319 to see superann gil if even in the best like 371 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:18.240 We're Coolie can have a bad series. An umpire is 372 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:21.920 allowed a bad match. Yes, we hold him to the 373 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:24.680 highest standards. Right, it's not anybody, He's not a. 374 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:26.559 No, it's not. 375 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:29.920 That is what I'm telling hopefully, hopefully, whether these two 376 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:32.079 will survive the next test is something that I need 377 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:34.759 to see. If they do, let's see how it goes on. 378 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:38.799 That's something. But I wanted to ask you something. As 379 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:42.559 a sports fan, is it easier to take heart breaks? 380 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:45.920 As in, do you have friends who are not sports fans? 381 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:49.200 You're asking this to a guy who watches Manchester net 382 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:53.799 and play football on his weekends at twelve thirty and 383 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:56.759 then he gets ready for office again with a good 384 00:18:56.799 --> 00:18:57.240 mood again. 385 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:00.359 So yeah, it's you get used to it one. 386 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:05.559 Day, or I'm not talking about only romantic relationships, something 387 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:08.319 like every day, like you go to our canteen and 388 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:10.480 you expect you expect money not to be there. 389 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:17.440 But yes, something like that. That is universal. Okay, my god, 390 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:20.359 so much pressure for this answer. 391 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:25.160 But I think when you go for these, you don't 392 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:26.960 go in with a lot of expect Like India and 393 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:27.839 England playing. 394 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:35.160 We go either ways. Like India and England playing at Lord's. 395 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:36.880 We have seen three days. 396 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:40.319 Of them packed for packed action, and we knew where 397 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:43.680 this game was slowly heading towards. So somewhere the whole 398 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:46.960 Judy Ja putting on a loan fight that became the 399 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:50.039 heartbreaking element of it. Otherwise we would have been content 400 00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:53.839 with whatever was gradually going on and on because Judja 401 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:59.200