Speaker 1: This is India Today Podcasts.
Speaker 2: You are on India Today Podcasts and you are in
Speaker 2: the Sledging Room. Let me warn you this is not
Speaker 2: a place for the faint hearted and the weak need
Speaker 2: If you're a sports buff and like challenging everything you
Speaker 2: see and your stay, if you're as soon as Batya fan,
Speaker 2: walk away.
Speaker 3: Right now, we're back for another episode of Sledging Room.
Speaker 3: So today we have with us. That means we are
Speaker 3: going to talk about Club World Cup. There were what
Speaker 3: about it, like, what was the tournament successful with Chelsea
Speaker 3: perfect perfect?
Speaker 4: Chaotic into a chaotic too damit PSG eating trashed. A
Speaker 4: lot of people slept nicely, a lot of people didn't
Speaker 4: be So I think this entire tournament was like setting
Speaker 4: up the ground only and ironically that that has been the.
Speaker 5: Problem ground itself.
Speaker 4: So overall, okay, I think it still has a lot
Speaker 4: more space to cover up to be called a major
Speaker 4: tournament so far, but overall good first image, great, but.
Speaker 3: There was no problems with the ground here sor yeah,
Speaker 3: but what was your emotion when India lost by twenty
Speaker 3: two runs the Lorts Tests July seventeen. You were at
Speaker 3: home right as you finished your shift and you went
Speaker 3: back home and I told you to leave early. You
Speaker 3: were waiting here and waiting for the wickets to fall
Speaker 3: in the first session. But by the I thought by
Speaker 3: the time you'd reach home, which is around forty minutes
Speaker 3: from office.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, India, will we bowled out?
Speaker 3: But Ravindra, Jadeja, Mamatsiraj and Jaspert Boomra held on, fought on.
Speaker 1: But in the end thing, right, can we look at
Speaker 1: it that way?
Speaker 3: As in like, I still don't know what to make
Speaker 3: of the Test match itself where India lost time yet
Speaker 3: to figure out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whether Jadeja what what.
Speaker 3: Was the purpose of Jadeja's innings, Like, if you lose
Speaker 3: by seventy runs, it's the same, if you lose by
Speaker 3: twenty two.
Speaker 1: Runs, it's the same. I kind of don't know.
Speaker 6: See, when the match was happening, first thing I would
Speaker 6: like to correct you, I was not saying that towards
Speaker 6: the fall of wickets, I was hoping that some or
Speaker 6: the other batteries start hitting and we will get to target.
Speaker 6: Then when I reached home and I was watching the match,
Speaker 6: you were covering the match in office, and we were,
Speaker 6: of course it lean touched with each other there was
Speaker 6: some hoop that somehow we will reach towards the target
Speaker 6: and somehow we will scale it. But that didn't happen.
Speaker 6: And you know what, you have to credit the England
Speaker 6: bowlers for that, no doubt what that. But somehow it
Speaker 6: feels like, you know, we did not lose the Test
Speaker 6: match in the last session or the second last session.
Speaker 6: We lost a testmash on the last session of day four.
Speaker 6: Were our top order battles, especially our open yes as
Speaker 6: well and our captain Schumann Gill. They were clueless and
Speaker 6: they actually threw away wickets. Had those top order battles,
Speaker 6: you will score twenty runs. You might have been just
Speaker 6: two runs away from victory when Silas got out. A
Speaker 6: lot of what ifs, a lot of what ifs. That
Speaker 6: that's how sports is. So yesterday when I said just
Speaker 6: like I knew it, the you don't know they was
Speaker 6: you think it's what if? You know when I was
Speaker 6: watching a Test match when it got over where I messaged.
Speaker 1: You guys, my money will watch this, please speak.
Speaker 3: Should know so why you shouldn't bring kids, that things
Speaker 3: should be near. You would have talked, talked about his
Speaker 3: flings everything. Yeah, and knowing that his wife would watch
Speaker 3: the podcast.
Speaker 1: Sort of. Yeah, sorry for interrupting you. You we're talking
Speaker 1: about the message.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, So I messaged you and then I posted
Speaker 6: a tweet on social media. You saw that too, because
Speaker 6: the first thing which came to my mind after that
Speaker 6: heartbreaking wicket of Siraj was that tweet of Jiminisham that
Speaker 6: he did exactly six years ago when Newsald lost that
Speaker 6: final on boundary acount rule, and he tweeted, kids, don't
Speaker 6: take up sport, take up making or something. Die at sixty,
Speaker 6: really fat and happy because, as I said in my tweet,
Speaker 6: more often than not, sports always breaks your heart and
Speaker 6: I did yesterday. Not just mine, I think millions of
Speaker 6: fans of India who were clinged to their TVs, to
Speaker 6: their phones, laptops where they were watching the match and
Speaker 6: they were hoping that Jadeja and Siraj will finally scale
Speaker 6: the target.
Speaker 1: That didn't happen.
Speaker 6: So it was heartbreaking, to be very frank with you,
Speaker 6: But I will not blame Judija for any of it. Yes,
Speaker 6: you know, as they were said, there are too many
Speaker 6: what and if you could have expected that Hajdeja hit
Speaker 6: a cup boundaries when he was batting with Boomera, things
Speaker 6: would have been different in the last last session, but.
Speaker 1: Those things does not matter.
Speaker 6: Lize because I heard someone I don't know who said
Speaker 6: it that when the Duke's ball got softer, it was
Speaker 6: very tough to hit it.
Speaker 3: I think Schumann explained it beautifully. Yeah, he defended in
Speaker 3: the press conference saying that, you know, they waited for
Speaker 3: the second new ball, which was eventually four five point one.
Speaker 1: Oh was away.
Speaker 3: I think when India got bold out, so when the
Speaker 3: harder ball comes in, they could have taken a couple
Speaker 3: of risks and scored those boundaries. Yeah, I accept like
Speaker 3: Jadeja had, you know, Stokes had the field spread. Whenever
Speaker 3: Jeeja was playing, at least six seven fielders were outside
Speaker 3: outside the ring and it was difficult for him to
Speaker 3: find the gaps. But sort of why did he not
Speaker 3: take those ones and twos and why did he not
Speaker 3: try to hit boundaries when he was even facing Showy
Speaker 3: But she Joe Root and Chris Folks, who were relatively
Speaker 3: getting lesser moment from the deck on day five pitch.
Speaker 6: You know, I think when you watch the match, he
Speaker 6: realized that the reserve. When he was getting through this partnership,
Speaker 6: he was not batting with someone like Gil or Punt
Speaker 6: or kill Rale. He was batting with the tail enders
Speaker 6: who are not who had not performed an entirely.
Speaker 3: You hitting boundaries was the only way you could have
Speaker 3: gone for a win. No, there was always another way.
Speaker 3: Because at one point it looked like was playing for
Speaker 3: a draw. No, it looked like he was playing.
Speaker 6: He knew that he had thirty tents to score from totovers,
Speaker 6: so he just had to keep the striker dating everywhere
Speaker 6: and make sure that the wicate does not fall, because
Speaker 6: you know, when when you have got one or two
Speaker 6: wickets left, I don't know how many you can take.
Speaker 6: Especially you know what happened. You saw what happened to Boomera.
Speaker 6: He was batting beautifully, he defended everything, and that one
Speaker 6: rash shot and he got out. And everybody was cursing
Speaker 6: Boomera as if Boomra had the responsibility to take us
Speaker 6: through the target.
Speaker 1: He's not a water battery.
Speaker 3: It has been a very weird criticism from you know,
Speaker 3: people watching the sport on day four when got out there,
Speaker 3: like why did kill not shield that? Oh my god,
Speaker 3: the very concept of night Watchmen is gone.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 4: We look at it like that J so like four three,
Speaker 4: four batters go tumble down in front of him, so
Speaker 4: that in his mind it's going on that I have
Speaker 4: to say, my wicked, I might have to go for
Speaker 4: a win, like you said. Even if he has to
Speaker 4: go for a wicked, even if he had to hit
Speaker 4: those boundaries, he had to wait for that time. He
Speaker 4: had to somehow survived down there, which none of the
Speaker 4: other batters were doing. So I think a little bit
Speaker 4: of a fear factor that, Okay, if I take that single,
Speaker 4: bring seraja, bring someone back on strike, they will go back.
Speaker 6: And I think it comes from the old Amazonian school
Speaker 6: of teasing targets.
Speaker 1: I thought he was leaving it for the last two.
Speaker 6: Take the game deep, take the game deep, and when
Speaker 6: it's the time and occasion, when one or two was
Speaker 6: the winning, just go bang bang. But it did not materialize,
Speaker 6: and SI got out, and it was quite a hard
Speaker 6: breaking and unlucky dismissal.
Speaker 1: One thing I could relate to was taking a lou break.
Speaker 3: I've always wondered. I've always wondered Hilary such high pressure.
Speaker 3: Imagine in my school days when I was giving, when
Speaker 3: I was going for this elecution and all whatever it is, however,
Speaker 3: how many how much ever you have prepared, planned and
Speaker 3: all that, just that five times before that, just before
Speaker 3: the school, just before yourself. You know, the bathroom what
Speaker 3: I read a copy on India only that bathroom something
Speaker 3: bathroom friend or something like that. Doesn't it You use
Speaker 3: the bathroom to you know, went out.
Speaker 1: To relax, to get confidence and just release the pressure off.
Speaker 3: When I when was walking rushing out of the ironic,
Speaker 3: was rushing out of the loop, I thought, Okay, yes
Speaker 3: this is gonna be has relieved all his pressure.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go for this.
Speaker 3: I thought of a copy also how the lou Break
Speaker 3: tastes it turned out for India.
Speaker 6: But actually was keeping copy like this copy of Thedia
Speaker 6: winning this game. And I've got these many ideas lined
Speaker 6: up here. Only time I can relate to a sports person,
Speaker 6: right like the Loo Break. Otherwise, Yeah, watching sport is
Speaker 6: the only thing that we are doing. And you guys
Speaker 6: are not coming for the weekend morning.
Speaker 3: Cricket, which I'm putting on record, like, yeah, we have
Speaker 3: been playing we had been playing cricket.
Speaker 1: How long was it? It's been like one year since
Speaker 1: we tried our handst pickle ball. Yes.
Speaker 3: But the thing is I read one tweet which was
Speaker 3: quite interesting which said India as a sporting nation never
Speaker 3: has had luck?
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 3: Like when was the last time, especially in cricket, luck
Speaker 3: favored in maybe the t apart from the heart breaks
Speaker 3: ninety champions, you comprehensively won it.
Speaker 1: No comprehension. Maybe that maybe the.
Speaker 3: War with Pakistan is allowed something that probably I needed
Speaker 3: green that But think about this nineteen ninety nine, the
Speaker 3: same same dismissal that. Yeah, and even on day five
Speaker 3: at Lord's I saw the replay Siraj Middle that ball,
Speaker 3: Middle that ball. It wasn't like he was, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to badle it away or got an inside edge.
Speaker 1: How on earth does it go on?
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 1: The guy who has a broken finger on his left ear.
Speaker 3: He of course credit to him for that fielding effort
Speaker 3: as well, he was in the deep fielding. But do
Speaker 3: you agree with that as in like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: is football down to luck or how.
Speaker 1: Is it football down to luck?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Big time?
Speaker 5: But not luck alone.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm saying, I'm asking from the Indian perspective.
Speaker 4: Indian perspective for football luck luck is luck is the
Speaker 4: last thing.
Speaker 5: That Indian football needs to focus on right now.
Speaker 1: But sortatly, what do you think is is that something true?
Speaker 3: Or is it just a moment of frustration wented out
Speaker 3: on social media? No, no, see, I have always believed,
Speaker 3: whether in life or in sports, you need hard work,
Speaker 3: but you always need luck to make it. Any cricketer,
Speaker 3: any successful person, cannot say that I have worked hard
Speaker 3: and I am here.
Speaker 6: Everybody who works hard going to their own limits. But
Speaker 6: only when luck favors you you get that push. You
Speaker 6: take the examples of Amazonian every cricketer.
Speaker 3: Twenty nineteen World Cup. Ye run out exactly. You never
Speaker 3: know how because like last year, this is only you
Speaker 3: on the ipea. But that was the captain you know
Speaker 3: how came back to the our suicide. Love Media was
Speaker 3: part of the squad. He was not even picked, but
Speaker 3: that was unsold in the auction. And then Sisudia gets injured,
Speaker 3: but that gets called up. He performs well, he becomes
Speaker 3: a regular part of that side. He and then he
Speaker 3: becomes a captain. He helps him in this first title.
Speaker 3: So luck will has always have to be one factor
Speaker 3: that helps you. And England had the luck because they
Speaker 3: bowl their hearts out. You have to create what Benzokes did.
Speaker 3: I've been bowling one after the over. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: there's the camera.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So see, we have always been fans of good sporting moments,
Speaker 6: and I have no shine in admitting that Benstrokes proved
Speaker 6: me wrong.
Speaker 1: If as a captain he can step up with the
Speaker 1: ball with the bat, that is what you.
Speaker 6: Expect from a captain, whether it's a new captain or
Speaker 6: opposing captain. And hats off two Binstrokes for the performance
Speaker 6: he did with the ball.
Speaker 5: I think enjoying this apology more than no I have.
Speaker 6: I have no qualms in excepting that he is Benstrokes
Speaker 6: put me wrong, because for once it felt like it
Speaker 6: was his mission to take every wicket by himself.
Speaker 1: He did not receive. I think eleven I was on trot,
Speaker 1: but nine one spell the spell. So if a.
Speaker 6: Captain who two days ago there were murmurs that he's injured,
Speaker 6: he had growing injury, and then the way he's bowling,
Speaker 6: oh my god, that's sensational, and then you can't discount
Speaker 6: to a furarger, that's spell. For a guy who is
Speaker 6: making playing his first chest match in four or five years,
Speaker 6: who was who played I feel what he was injured.
Speaker 6: He was part injured, he was part fit. And the
Speaker 6: way he came in running sensational Pun's wikid was, oh
Speaker 6: my god, how do you let him? Let Pun play
Speaker 6: one r there? That forty thirty runs would have come there,
Speaker 6: definitely both sides.
Speaker 5: Like you go to the first standings too.
Speaker 4: Ifshop Puns would have stayed there, if there was not
Speaker 4: that silly run out there, twenty to thirty runs more
Speaker 4: would have done the trick here.
Speaker 5: That's what's turn out like. So yeah, raship punt has
Speaker 5: been the luck focus here in this match.
Speaker 3: But like you said, even Stokes wonderfully explained that. You know,
Speaker 3: on the morning of the fifth day, he kind of
Speaker 3: went up to Archer and said, Archer, you and I
Speaker 3: have to do it because six years ago in the
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen world these two were the ones who did
Speaker 3: it for England. So he had that hunch because Brighton
Speaker 3: Cars bowled wonderfully well on day for evening, but England
Speaker 3: didn't start with the Bridon cars. Yeah, they went with
Speaker 3: Joffra and Stokes. Sometimes a lot of us were wondering
Speaker 3: why is brid and Cars not bullying? Even our Ushmin
Speaker 3: tweet it that Javra shouldn't be bowling right now, but
Speaker 3: then inspired spell. These are things that you know, like
Speaker 3: we always talk about luck, but sometimes you make your
Speaker 3: own luck right, like you kind of push it.
Speaker 1: You bowld those spells.
Speaker 3: You broke open the match in the first two basically,
Speaker 3: like you pointed out fifty eight for four on day
Speaker 3: four at stumps and then the morning when you were
Speaker 3: expected to see you off the first star and get
Speaker 3: into that. You know, no complaints about Duke's ball because
Speaker 3: you were you were.
Speaker 5: Siraj might have one complaint for that final diss He
Speaker 5: might have worked.
Speaker 1: We will now go back.
Speaker 3: And I was just wondering if Siraj had won the match,
Speaker 3: he would have probably got a live man with the
Speaker 3: kind of celebrating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's all for good only, and why we
Speaker 1: discuss everything.
Speaker 6: I have one point to make and I asked, I'll
Speaker 6: ask both of you, do you agree with the center
Speaker 6: frompiring in this dismatch, especially for all rifles.
Speaker 1: It's a very tough job. I understand it's a very
Speaker 1: tough job.
Speaker 6: But when you are a member of icy panel and
Speaker 6: you're in spears and pair and you are actually officiating
Speaker 6: in a test match at lots shouldn't you be more
Speaker 6: careful of course, and you shouldn't you be making less
Speaker 6: of their mistakes?
Speaker 3: There were quite a few blunders. Was given out yeah,
Speaker 3: and it clearly was sitting outside the.
Speaker 4: Line of theis think that the whole Like we have
Speaker 4: a problem with that in football, like var the problem
Speaker 4: with VR in football that referee refereeing decisions are getting loose,
Speaker 4: that they are depending too much on their mistakes to
Speaker 4: also get corrected there.
Speaker 1: So do you think that's the same scenario with when.
Speaker 3: The technology has come in? Maybe the umpires are taking
Speaker 3: it lightly? Is that what you're accusing? I'm asking not
Speaker 3: see even whenever it is, it's like it's just like
Speaker 3: you're going on a boat and then you know that
Speaker 3: you have a life jacket, you will take it a
Speaker 3: little lightly, right like when you don't have it, you
Speaker 3: know that, Okay, I.
Speaker 4: Have to get In cricket, those decisions actually go on
Speaker 4: to narrate terms. If it's an umpire's call, then that's.
Speaker 1: The biggest call.
Speaker 6: With some call like Jurud was given not out yeah, exactly,
Speaker 6: and then it turned out to be an ambass call
Speaker 6: and then he went on score twenty more runs.
Speaker 1: Those listeners could give in the game.
Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, we argued, if we don't have
Speaker 3: umpires call, then it becomes very abstract. If everything that
Speaker 3: hits the stumps is out, then it's all done.
Speaker 1: No, I am not saying that.
Speaker 6: What I personally believe is I understand that umpiring the
Speaker 6: job where you're always on the edge of the knife.
Speaker 6: I understand that, and there's a lot of pressure and
Speaker 6: risk involved in this the way when you are making
Speaker 6: new decisions. But for I, you see, they should I
Speaker 6: think they review every umpire's performance. I think they should
Speaker 6: release test matches after a test match, and they should
Speaker 6: take some call, like when you impose finds some players,
Speaker 6: you should impose some finds or some disciplactions should be
Speaker 6: taken against some pires.
Speaker 1: Also maybe some ranks of empires something something, because that
Speaker 1: you know what I have.
Speaker 6: You know, one bad decision and you lose a test
Speaker 6: match and it might turn out to be an important
Speaker 6: factor when you're in the recurring for the doubles final spot.
Speaker 1: So these are things which ICY needs to take care.
Speaker 6: Maybe they should take a call on umpires, they should
Speaker 6: give some word it's something.
Speaker 3: Or like maybe yeah, like a review process of Privy
Speaker 3: Test match, like you pointed out, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I'm not blaming the umpires. They're humans, and humans, as
Speaker 6: we know, are thrown to errors. But still, when you're umpiring,
Speaker 6: it means that you have a certain level of correct
Speaker 6: right right righteousness, so you should.
Speaker 3: Be making those with more responsibility. But yeah, the umpiring
Speaker 3: standards in this test match was horrendous. Yeah, and it
Speaker 3: looked like every time an Indian batter was in the middle,
Speaker 3: the appeal was the appeal was kind of given out.
Speaker 1: It might have been coincidence, but it looked like it.
Speaker 6: Even when Corona got out. Yeah, I don't think a
Speaker 6: lot of English players appealed for it. No, not a
Speaker 6: lot of umpire was very very sure fingers.
Speaker 1: It was a dead, wicked, dead plumb decision. I understand.
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 3: Even even our Bangladeshi friend Psycha had a tough tough time.
Speaker 3: I think umpiring all these are really panel umpires like
Speaker 3: to see superann gil if even in the best like
Speaker 3: We're Coolie can have a bad series. An umpire is
Speaker 3: allowed a bad match. Yes, we hold him to the
Speaker 3: highest standards. Right, it's not anybody, He's not a.
Speaker 1: No, it's not.
Speaker 3: That is what I'm telling hopefully, hopefully, whether these two
Speaker 3: will survive the next test is something that I need
Speaker 3: to see. If they do, let's see how it goes on.
Speaker 3: That's something. But I wanted to ask you something. As
Speaker 3: a sports fan, is it easier to take heart breaks?
Speaker 3: As in, do you have friends who are not sports fans?
Speaker 4: You're asking this to a guy who watches Manchester net
Speaker 4: and play football on his weekends at twelve thirty and
Speaker 4: then he gets ready for office again with a good
Speaker 4: mood again.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's you get used to it one.
Speaker 3: Day, or I'm not talking about only romantic relationships, something
Speaker 3: like every day, like you go to our canteen and
Speaker 3: you expect you expect money not to be there.
Speaker 1: But yes, something like that. That is universal. Okay, my god,
Speaker 1: so much pressure for this answer.
Speaker 4: But I think when you go for these, you don't
Speaker 4: go in with a lot of expect Like India and
Speaker 4: England playing.
Speaker 5: We go either ways. Like India and England playing at Lord's.
Speaker 5: We have seen three days.
Speaker 4: Of them packed for packed action, and we knew where
Speaker 4: this game was slowly heading towards. So somewhere the whole
Speaker 4: Judy Ja putting on a loan fight that became the
Speaker 4: heartbreaking element of it. Otherwise we would have been content
Speaker 4: with whatever was gradually going on and on because Judja
Speaker 4: and say they sparked that kind of hope, okay something
Speaker 4: or the other kind of It's like going forward with
Speaker 4: a spoon and.
Speaker 5: Suddenly taking it away. So that's about it. So yeah,
Speaker 5: heartbreaks and all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get used to it.
Speaker 3: It's like after a seven bottom half of the finish
Speaker 3: for Manchester, just go to the Europa League Final and lose.
Speaker 5: That exactly, you lose that on penalties. Suddenly you go
Speaker 5: there and lose on penalties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but sort of tell me something as in like yeah,
Speaker 3: like he pointed out, leave that Jedja innings aside.
Speaker 1: Where do you think India lost this Test match? There
Speaker 1: are many reasons if you ask me one thing, one
Speaker 1: see a couple of things.
Speaker 3: But tell me the primary thing that you think my
Speaker 3: long the game in favor of England first innings three
Speaker 3: eighty seven, three eighty seven, tight.
Speaker 1: Score, was that itself a problem.
Speaker 6: My biggest problem with this Indian team is the fielding lapses.
Speaker 6: So in the first chest we lost because we could
Speaker 6: not hold onto the catches. And then he went on
Speaker 6: to use that to the rontes and won the Test
Speaker 6: much chased on a three seventy order on target.
Speaker 1: Second Test, we field it well. We won the game.
Speaker 1: Third Test, again we gave too many extras.
Speaker 6: I mean, if I'm not wrong, we gave around fifty
Speaker 6: six tons extras in both the innings combined. In the
Speaker 6: second things we gave thirty two extras in combined. That
Speaker 6: was the second high score by for the England score.
Speaker 6: Even if we had to use by ten more ten
Speaker 6: or twenty more runs, things would have been different.
Speaker 1: The grove Thrill had to have a tough time. I
Speaker 1: think yes, because and I can't blame him one for this.
Speaker 6: I can't blame you're not part of the playing eleven
Speaker 6: and to your main and you have not kept wickets
Speaker 6: in the entire England tour. I think it kept tickets
Speaker 6: on India England in India, I was England A but
Speaker 6: that is a completely different ball game here.
Speaker 1: Reshipnth has been keeping the wickets.
Speaker 6: Suddenly your main keeper gets injured and then you are
Speaker 6: called upon and you're trying to do the best job
Speaker 6: that you're doing, and then you know, as you said,
Speaker 6: the slope of lots and somehow our bowlers were a
Speaker 6: ring in the lineal length, many extras. To be very
Speaker 6: frank with you, and I have always said that discipline
Speaker 6: in the fielding unit helps you, say, more runs, and
Speaker 6: those runs come back to help you. When you can
Speaker 6: see more extra runs, you drop catches, they will come
Speaker 6: back to haunt you and they will haunt this haunted
Speaker 6: in your back.
Speaker 1: Imagine you lose a test where we took a catch
Speaker 1: and I have one more problem.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so ess actually for good, say she took a catch,
Speaker 6: but then you could not score runs.
Speaker 1: So either his scoring runs or his tecond catches.
Speaker 4: I was talking to you about this that every match,
Speaker 4: one thing is working out, the other thing is not.
Speaker 4: Like you get your batting right, you get a bowling
Speaker 4: missed out, you get a bowling right, you get a
Speaker 4: batting missed out.
Speaker 5: So in India at this point, I think the balance
Speaker 5: of skills and balance.
Speaker 1: Of performance in amidst they're both units. That has been
Speaker 1: the struggling point more.
Speaker 3: You know, if you look at the transitioning teams of
Speaker 3: twenty eleven twenty twelve, so when analogy came, we also
Speaker 3: dropped a lot of catches in that Timegine like yeses
Speaker 3: we had a brilliant home series against England and he
Speaker 3: started this series.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's like unfair to say that one thing
Speaker 1: is working.
Speaker 3: But I just wanted to ask you one question, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this Lodge Test has passed. In all three tests, India
Speaker 3: have competed. So that's one good thing. Isn't like a
Speaker 3: lot not a lot of people would have hoped that
Speaker 3: this team despite the bowling riches. They were doubts about
Speaker 3: the batting units, but they've done well. But yes, we
Speaker 3: will do the next episode of Sledging Room where we
Speaker 3: will talk in detail about the Fourth Test. But if
Speaker 3: you were to make a couple of changes, will you
Speaker 3: change this lineup for the Fourth Test, which is kind
Speaker 3: of eight days, nine.
Speaker 1: Days and eight days.
Speaker 3: You know, Manchester is the venue of the Fourth Test,
Speaker 3: so if the Witch is going to be a sporting
Speaker 3: wicket is what we are hearing at the moment, but
Speaker 3: you never know.
Speaker 6: If you personally ask me, I won't change anything. I
Speaker 6: will trust this playing leven. I want Boomra to play
Speaker 6: the next I will want Booma to play the next dress.
Speaker 6: And you said as you said, it's a very easy
Speaker 6: call because if you lose the next Test. There's nothing
Speaker 6: for to play there exactly exactly, Yeah, so Boom has
Speaker 6: to play the nextest match. And I was very doubtful
Speaker 6: of Sonda's impact, but then soon that proved his importance
Speaker 6: in the second things. If not for soon that we
Speaker 6: might have been changing something around to fifty because those
Speaker 6: are very important.
Speaker 1: He picked up the wickets of.
Speaker 6: Route, Wokes, Sokes Smith, so sensational bowling. So these were
Speaker 6: the two calls that I was very very doubtful about.
Speaker 6: But I think we should be playing the same playing eleven.
Speaker 6: And even if I have a bit of doubt with
Speaker 6: Coroner because he has just not performed in the first
Speaker 6: Test matches, but then again I will say, you're giving
Speaker 6: him three matches, give him one more game, because if
Speaker 6: he get if you do not, if you throw him
Speaker 6: out of the off, you're playing eleven for the nextest match.
Speaker 6: I don't see him making a comeback because somebody or else,
Speaker 6: somebody or the other person will come and will fix
Speaker 6: that question. So if you're giving him three matches, give
Speaker 6: him one more match, you win it as much. Great
Speaker 6: losers much anyways, try different birth things.
Speaker 1: And someone like.
Speaker 3: Like he's warving the benches for so long Karn comes back,
Speaker 3: you give him three tests starts. There are starts, but
Speaker 3: you're not converting them. That means this is not like
Speaker 3: you're not in you're in poor form. You're in good nick,
Speaker 3: but you're not able to go past towards Earlier we
Speaker 3: used to say, okay crosses thirty, there's.
Speaker 1: A triple hundred.
Speaker 4: But now But this is what I wanted to ask
Speaker 4: both of you too, is that everybody's saying Karn is
Speaker 4: getting the good starts and not converting them.
Speaker 1: Does that really matter?
Speaker 4: Though? If you're getting good starts and not converting them
Speaker 4: in a in a packed test man like this, you're
Speaker 4: getting a good start not converting them.
Speaker 3: So if I seriously thought it was his responsibility as
Speaker 3: a senior member as in like not India team wise,
Speaker 3: but someone who has played cricket player, experienced player, he
Speaker 3: should have seen us through that. You know, fourth day
Speaker 3: it was his wicket that said the cat among the
Speaker 3: pigeons in the indidancing room. You had to then bring
Speaker 3: in supman Gil who had like who had like eight
Speaker 3: ten minutes to you know, survive the rest of the day.
Speaker 3: But then I thought Karna had to take up more
Speaker 3: responsibility there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so yes, But I have one more point to
Speaker 6: make you know why these starts matter, especially interested it.
Speaker 6: We have always struggled after Pujara. We have struggled because
Speaker 6: Gill could not do it. A batter at number three
Speaker 6: who could actually weather the new wall, score some runs
Speaker 6: and weather the new wall. And Karuna has always played
Speaker 6: thirty fourty fifty balls. So he's playing those eight TI
Speaker 6: overs and most of the times I have seen a batter,
Speaker 6: an opener or a number three batter getting out to
Speaker 6: the new wall, he's not getting out to the new wall,
Speaker 6: apart from the first t is where he got out
Speaker 6: for a duck when he was battering at number six.
Speaker 6: By the way, he has played those balls with very
Speaker 6: much good confidence. He has scored those runs. His shots
Speaker 6: have looked good. The cover drives have come off, the
Speaker 6: straight drives have come off. I don't know, is there
Speaker 6: a mental blog or something where he's just not able
Speaker 6: to convert these and even you know why I want
Speaker 6: you to give him one more Test match because you
Speaker 6: played the first Test match and he was batting at
Speaker 6: number six, then you removed s and you made him
Speaker 6: bad number three. These are two very different batting positions
Speaker 6: and very tricky batting pullitions.
Speaker 1: Of course, that's yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so then you need to back him up for
Speaker 6: at least one more test because he has done not
Speaker 6: because it's not like he's not scoring anything.
Speaker 1: He has got he's got good starts, he's trying to
Speaker 1: weather the new ball and he's helping the opener. He
Speaker 1: has helped the whole and it's not easy. It's not easy.
Speaker 6: If Kala scored two hundreds, you have to credit this
Speaker 6: guy also that he has been there and.
Speaker 1: Help helped support.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said at thirty four, maybe if he
Speaker 3: goes out of the team now, he might never make
Speaker 3: it back again. So that is something that I think Kambi,
Speaker 3: who made a comeback late in twenty seventeen or something
Speaker 3: to the Indian team will know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But yeah, you know one thing that kind of
Speaker 1: I woke up when.
Speaker 3: He s like, I went to bed around to him
Speaker 3: and then I was like, still, you know, fulfilling the
Speaker 3: pinch that okay, what if? What could have been? And
Speaker 3: then I wake up to see that in Sami's face
Speaker 3: looking at the West Indies losing the last ticket at
Speaker 3: twenty seven. I felt his pain. I'm like someone in
Speaker 3: this world, like there is a bunch in this world
Speaker 3: who has been broken more by spot and.
Speaker 5: Were cricket, and we were talking about luck, like.
Speaker 3: By a cricket match his first series as a Test
Speaker 3: head coach, Roston Chase's first series as the captain of
Speaker 3: the Wes.
Speaker 1: And you lose three nil to cap it off, you'll
Speaker 1: get bold out for twenty seven, the second lowest Test total.
Speaker 1: Quick thoughts on you know, I don't see Westerndis.
Speaker 3: You do whatever you want, but they are not able to,
Speaker 3: you know, get back to Is that a mental block now?
Speaker 3: As in it's not like they do they have bad players,
Speaker 3: they have a very good base attack, they have battles
Speaker 3: who can do well.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going wrong there.
Speaker 6: You know, I've always felt one thing about Western's cricket,
Speaker 6: especially testing. I have no idea why they keep changing
Speaker 6: and shopping their captains and coaches. Why can't you trust
Speaker 6: your leadership? Because if you see the cricket team, it's
Speaker 6: not like has won two series. He's on three or
Speaker 6: four Test matches overall, in eleven Test matches, but at
Speaker 6: least he's getting that extender run. Because you cannot expect
Speaker 6: results from a coach or a captain until you give
Speaker 6: them that extended run where they can actually implement their
Speaker 6: ideology and they can make sure that the role collect
Speaker 6: is there for every player.
Speaker 1: They know which battery will give them what.
Speaker 6: Even for England baseball, I criticized baseball because baseball has
Speaker 6: still not helped England winner.
Speaker 1: By the way, they have kind of fine saw that
Speaker 1: in the third Test. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, they are showing patients. They are respecting the condition
Speaker 3: because they have to.
Speaker 6: And I mentioned this because England board rob Key is
Speaker 6: not coming and telling you will be sat next series.
Speaker 6: They have got three years together Strokes and McCullum and
Speaker 6: there are results like they have won Test matches.
Speaker 1: That is my biggest one of Westerns cricket. You have
Speaker 1: got good bunch of talent.
Speaker 6: It's not like this lack of talent, but the implementation
Speaker 6: of things has to be very very clear.
Speaker 5: So it's like another team we know.
Speaker 4: Any talking about I'm just saying United sounds like another
Speaker 4: team we know that quick changes quick.
Speaker 6: That is my biggest problem because even if you see
Speaker 6: it just matches, Western is faceballing.
Speaker 1: It was sensational. They out bowled on a couple of times.
Speaker 6: We felt like they're out bolding the star try of Australia,
Speaker 6: but then the fielding and the batting pulled them down.
Speaker 1: So that was the biggest concern.
Speaker 6: And when you talk about this condition all out, oh
Speaker 6: my god, they were very I saw a couple of
Speaker 6: Western's cricket fans pages in the morning when I was
Speaker 6: coming to office and they are very happy that they
Speaker 6: have been saved.
Speaker 1: The abdomination of the lowest just total.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the moment I scored over now we have
Speaker 6: don't have that the innings highlights.
Speaker 4: The video of the inning sidelights was the shortest shighlight
Speaker 4: video ever watched.
Speaker 1: Like must have been like fifty minutes. VIEO I do
Speaker 1: for normal inks? Is what the normal VI do for
Speaker 1: this seam?
Speaker 3: But closer home, before we wrap up this episode, Yeah,
Speaker 3: can India bounce back and make it three to two
Speaker 3: Manchester and over?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What are quick thoughts?
Speaker 6: Sunny Gi was talking to India today and I listened
Speaker 6: to him and he has clearly said that this young
Speaker 6: team when they went for a tour but did not
Speaker 6: have very high hopes. But we were content as this
Speaker 6: team will fight. And if you look at these three
Speaker 6: test matches, how many sessions are there? I think fifteen
Speaker 6: sessions for tests forty five tests. In those forty five sessions,
Speaker 6: at least India must have won thirty two test sessions.
Speaker 1: So the problem lies in finishing off results. It's not
Speaker 1: like you're not fighting.
Speaker 6: Off and Inland are the team that are two one up,
Speaker 6: but they have looked most problem in all these test matches.
Speaker 6: So I will never say that India can't come back. Definitely,
Speaker 6: you can come back. Your batters have so a bit
Speaker 6: more responsibility when the ball is moving, specially top order
Speaker 6: like Gills has scored six hundred orders is series great,
Speaker 6: but you needed to score those thirty to forty or
Speaker 6: runs in this just massignings that.
Speaker 1: Would have hold held more importance than six hundred runs
Speaker 1: and must learn how to eat big success.
Speaker 5: No, I will not let me not say that to
Speaker 5: Boomera because he took that too seriously.
Speaker 1: Because my simple thing is you can definitely win Manchester.
Speaker 1: You can win a novel.
Speaker 6: But as I said, the feeling has to be absolutely pinpoint.
Speaker 6: You can't be leaking too many extra runs and batters
Speaker 6: have to take a bit more responsiblity.
Speaker 4: There were you any d It's the kind of margins
Speaker 4: we've had through all these tests, through the three tests
Speaker 4: so far, so India can. But as you guys said, again,
Speaker 4: we need boom Bra to play the next one. It's
Speaker 4: it's a must have and amongst the batters, we need
Speaker 4: a bit of clarity that who needs to do what
Speaker 4: at what point of time, not suddenly going off like
Speaker 4: you said, Schumann putting in those thirty runs, or taking
Speaker 4: more responsibilities, staying out there giving the support to maybe
Speaker 4: someone like Krahul or whoever's there decreased.
Speaker 5: If that clarity is there.
Speaker 1: And if Jesse, why can do Jesse? Why? So that's it?
Speaker 1: What about you? Actually?
Speaker 3: What do you think about the playing eleven? I will
Speaker 3: make see I want to play all the remaining two tests.
Speaker 3: He can, for God's sake, rest in the home series.
Speaker 3: If Stokes can put in that shift after coming back
Speaker 3: from injury. Yeah, there's no excuse for you to say
Speaker 3: that I only play three tests. You don't play the
Speaker 3: home series at all. There is two home series coming up,
Speaker 3: five tests there. You don't have to play that. I
Speaker 3: think boom will also take that call. Initially, when he
Speaker 3: landed in England, he was saying that let's see let's
Speaker 3: take it called by call.
Speaker 1: And I think in one interview also and his wife
Speaker 1: and the broadcaster.
Speaker 3: Gumby said we want maybe if you're two two, then
Speaker 3: you kept to play boom the fifth test. But I
Speaker 3: don't like like you said, I'll stick with his team
Speaker 3: only bringing in cool Deep in place of someone i'd know.
Speaker 1: Who she placed after he produced the best last one years.
Speaker 1: You can't dropy Manchester. We've never won.
Speaker 3: Never it will turn in the last two days what
Speaker 3: people are saying, but let's see. Like but one thing
Speaker 3: I wanted to say is that this eight day gap
Speaker 3: might be a tricky thing. Like you will dwelve on
Speaker 3: that loss a lot more if the test had come,
Speaker 3: if the fourth test had come just three days after
Speaker 3: this test, you probably would have just thought about that.
Speaker 1: Maybe.
Speaker 3: I don't know how long they will dwell on it.
Speaker 3: But someone like Sinner, can they can take you after
Speaker 3: that heartbreak in Paris?
Speaker 1: He just so maybe take a cue from Sinner And
Speaker 1: also and can we win the series? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: What I think to.
Speaker 3: One raindown test in Manchester? Okay and over we've been
Speaker 3: open for this one from the first test itself. One
Speaker 3: raindown has also deserted luck strikes again. We ask our
Speaker 3: listeners and viewers also their thoughts on where they thought
Speaker 3: India lost that Test match and whether they can bounce back,
Speaker 3: and of course the barren Sami face. Maybe we should
Speaker 3: have an episode discussing that in the coming days. But yeah,
Speaker 3: you can send in your thoughts on eight five, double
Speaker 3: eight nine, double nine six. If you're listening to us
Speaker 3: on Apple Podcast and Spotify, please do rate us, and
Speaker 3: like you always say, if you're watching us on YouTube,
Speaker 3: please leave your comments. We'll be more than happy to
Speaker 3: learn your feedback. Happy, happy break. Enjoy these eight days
Speaker 3: before perhaps another heartbreak.
Speaker 1: Thank you, have a great day.