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Speaker 1: You were listening to Cougar Sports with Ben Krettle, and

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it's time for a Cougar Insider Report. Now, let's get

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that for a prietary inside scoop on Cougar Sports from

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Crittle Welcome back Ugar Sports one O three and nine

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your mind, body, and soul need prior to the kickoff

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of the byu Utah Holy War in twenty twenty five,

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showing up. Jamal Williams was just here. We've got some

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current players showing up here later on, guys like Body Schoonover,

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Noah Moyaki, Connor Pay will be here shortly. And we've

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up future ute as well as Jaron Puola.

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Speaker 2: So stop by, say lo, let's talk some ball.

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Speaker 2: You will not be disappointed.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome in one of my favorite walk

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ons all time in BYU football history.

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Speaker 2: He played in this rivalry.

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Speaker 1: Game and unfortunately he did not get a win in

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this rivalry game. But he's gonna tell us about you

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know what he remembers about this rivalry game and teach

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us a little bit about offensive line plate how it's

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gonna be one and or lost in the trenches.

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Speaker 2: Former BYU great offensive line. We've got Parker daw here live.

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Was a Parker what uh Man?

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Speaker 3: Doing good, good, doing really good. Excited to be here

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and excited to talk about the game.

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Speaker 2: You were able to embrace your running back here Jamal.

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Speaker 1: Not too long ago he had to take off, But

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how cool was he to reunite with.

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Speaker 3: Jamal oh Man? So many good memories with that guy.

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It was great to see him. It's been a long

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time since I've seen him.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's it's crazy how the years go by and almost

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a decade later, right, you know, but no, it was

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great to see him.

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Speaker 4: And man, I love playing with him.

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Speaker 3: Some of the memories I had with Jamal is just

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being in the huddle with him, you know, in those

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big moments and the emotion that he had, right, Like

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he played with so much emotion, so much passion, right

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and just just a great leader right for our team

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and ran super hard, and you know it was it

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was great to see him.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I felt like the offensive line they moved

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the line of scrimmage well in that twenty sixteen game, close, right,

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came down to the wire two point conversion.

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Speaker 2: But do you would you agree with that assessment?

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Speaker 1: Like when BYU wins this rivalry game, it's typically one

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in the trenches.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: For whatever reason, right, every year we play, you know, Utah,

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this rivalry game, I feel like it's always a close

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game and always comes down to the wire. Obviously we

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don't like that, right as bou fans, But you know,

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the game is one of the trenches, right, And when

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we played that twenty sixteen year in that game that

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we lost in that two point conversion. Man, they had

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Hunter Dimmick, they had a Mocha Fisi, they had Cody Barton,

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a few guys that were just stars. Right, And remember

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playing against those guys and preparing for that game and

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just you know, knowing how tough their defense was and

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how physical that they were. But we could have beat them, right.

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I mean, we threw a pick six on the first

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play of the game, and you know that was that

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Speaker 4: My first moment in that game.

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Speaker 3: And I remember thinking before the game started, like, man,

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I'm about to play playing the biggest game in my career. Right,

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And then we started off with the pick six and

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you take that one play back, right, we win that game?

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: I could say that about any play. But you know, big,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this this game means a lot of community,

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it means a lot of families, it means a lot

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to these individual schools.

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Speaker 2: It's a It's more.

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Speaker 1: Than just a game, right, this is a This is

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one of the biggest games I think on the West Coast.

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Speaker 2: I think it's an underrated rivalry game.

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Speaker 1: I think the nation is becoming aware just how special

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and singular this rivalry game is from your perspective, right, Like,

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where does it rank out amongst the best rivalry games

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in college football?

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's got to be one of the top games, right.

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Speaker 3: I think I saw a statistic on social media the

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other day that I think this is the most expensive game,

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right or expensive seat that, yeah, anywhere in the country

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right now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this week, right now, this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I mean that alone just tells you the amount

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of passion people have for this game. And now, obviously

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you have the SEC and you've got some big rivalries there,

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but you know, you see it in the interviews with

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Kyle Whittingham and Killanney, right, Like, obviously there's a lot

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of tension right between the schools.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of passion in the community.

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Speaker 3: Lots lots of stuff going on, but it's one of

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the biggest rivalries in the country.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the things that you're looking forward

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to on Saturday six pm kickoff under the lights of Leavelle.

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This offensive line, this defensive line. They've been tremendous thus

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far this season. I know you've been able to watch

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what stands out to you about the offensive defensive line

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play thus far this year?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, watching the O line the past few years,

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what I'm noticing this year is I feel like the

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O line has had a few years with with the

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coaching staff, and they're really playing in sync, playing in Unison.

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They've got a young quarterback, right Verr Bachmeyer, and he's

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he's very talented, done a great job this season.

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Speaker 4: But they're playing really really well together.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Obviously Utah has got a great defensive front. They always

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put together a great defensive front, you know. But one

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of the things I want to see coming into this

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game is I want to see us start fast right.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the games where we've struggled in years

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past is where we take too long, right, we come

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out of the gate second half right, or you know

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vice versa. We come out playing strong and then we

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end up you know, they get us from you.

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Speaker 4: Know, when we're we're we're ahead.

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Speaker 3: But man, if we could come out just playing fast,

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being comfortable, being confident in our ability, I think I

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think we take to win.

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Speaker 1: The last few times boy wins this game, they don't

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turn the ball over. That's another key component here. Win

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the trench warfare game. Don't cough up the football, be

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at least neutral or in the plus in the turnover

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margin game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that helps, and so.

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Speaker 1: When BYU even at times though even I want to

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say that twenty sixteen game, I think we were plus

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in the turnover margin even though we did give up

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a pick six, but we still fell short that game.

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It's hard to come back from a defensive score, even

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a special team score, and win the game, even if

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you are plus in the turnover margin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, I know, like thinking back in

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that game and thinking about about that twenty sixteen game,

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defense played lights out right, Yeah, that was a big,

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big game for them, And then I think offensively, right,

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we would get momentum in a drive and then you

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know we would you know, turn the you know, have

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a three and out and punt it and flip things around.

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But I mean, ultimately, right, if we can, if we

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can come into the game where defense is just playing

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how they're playing, Hopefully everyone's healthy. Hopefully we got Jack Kelly,

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you know, we got Isaiah Glasker coming in and playing ball,

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and you know, I think that defensively we can shut

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him down.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see it.

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Speaker 1: If you had the the ears of the b YU

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Cougar football team prior to this game, right, just down

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a practice or even the locker room.

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Speaker 4: What's the message, what's the rocky.

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Speaker 1: What's the message to this b YU Cougar football team

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before they take the field versus the utes of the

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North Man?

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Speaker 3: I think Klaney said it best. They don't know, but

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they're about to. You know, they don't know, but they're

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about to know.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean at the end of the day, right,

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be confident in your ability play at one play at

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a time, trust the scheme, right, but you got to

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play till that very last play, very last whistle. And

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if we do that right, they're gonna have a They're

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gonna have a memory that they're gonna think about the

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rest of their life, you know, winning the game.

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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, ninety seventh meeting, long standing rivalry. BYU has

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won the last two, but in the modern era, Utah

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has dominated this rivalry. Post twenty ten, they went nine straight,

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nine straight wins, and that's the longest winning streak in

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this in this rivalry history. Now BYU had a nine

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straight wins from like in the late seventies, early eighties,

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right in their glory era, and from twenty ten to

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twenty and twenty three that was the Utah glory era.

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Speaker 2: They you know it, even going back two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: Probably two thousand and four, two thousand and four to

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twenty twenty three, that was twenty years.

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Speaker 2: Utah has been.

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Speaker 1: A really good to great, some would say, elite football program.

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And now right finally BYU has resources, TV money, nil backing,

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free market, capitalistic, nil transfer portal market.

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Speaker 2: They've been able to take advantage of it.

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Speaker 1: Seems as if BYU is in a place where they've

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already caught up to Utah despite the thirteen year head start.

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Speaker 2: How impressive is that?

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Speaker 1: And do you feel like BYU's caught up now after

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being behind for thirteen years?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I do.

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Speaker 3: You know, It's funny when my younger brother wyat Uh

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walked on to BYU a few years ago. I actually

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got a chance to talk to Colonie a lot about

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that at one of the practices and I and I

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asked him, I'm like, how is how is this all

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working now with nil and recruiting and getting guys, Because

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at that time, I think we'd saw a handful of

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players leave from BYU and go to Utah and Keenan

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Peelee right, is that who is well?

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Speaker 1: Keenan went to Tennessee, j gave Judy Lowley went to Tennessee.

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We have of John Henry Daily and Logan Fana went

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to Utah. That's they're going to be your starting defensive

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ends for Utah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I just remember talking about that, and

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I remember Kilani said that they were doing everything in

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their power, uh to to do what they needed to

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do to make bou an elite program nationally. They're they're

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not trying to be top twenty five, they're not trying

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to you know, make it to the the Bowl game,

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right like they want to win. They want to win

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a national championship. Right, So that tells you a lot

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about colom mentality. You know Tom Homa at the time

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right now it's you know Santiago.

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Speaker 4: You know, they want to win.

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Speaker 3: And so I think that they're there where they want

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to beat out with Utah.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: They brought in Kyle Winningham, Right, they brought in previous

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Utah or b a U Alum right, yep, Jason Beck,

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Mike Simon boy Deptmer Right. I played with a lot

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of those guys right, played under Jason Deck.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: So I think that that that Utah you.

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Speaker 3: Know that they're in a program they've done really well.

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But I think BYU is right there with them with resources.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting the cross pollination between the two schools.

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Speaker 1: Uh, there's been like trades, if you will, Harvey Longey

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coming from Utah to b YU, didn't you you play

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hard play with Austin Lee Utah to b YU. You know,

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Carson Ryan from Utah to b YU, right ken of

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Austin from Utah to b YU. Then you see like

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Devin KUFUSI go from by.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You see Logan and John Henry daily and there's been

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cross pollination now in the coaching staff too.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Like no other rivalry, no other no other universities have

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what we're experiencing here in Utah. And I think that's

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why Big Newton kickoffs here to familiarize themselves with this rivalry.

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I think Dave Portnoy school presidente, you know, he's starting

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to feel and realize what this rivalry is all about.

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And it's going to be put on the map. This

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is a big game this may be the biggest rivalry game.

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Speaker 4: In the country, well in our history though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like depending like this is a power conference now

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both of both teams are looking to get to Arlington.

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This may be a determining factor on whether or not

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you get to Arlington to win a big TWOL championship

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and get to the CFP.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean, Yep, No, I get that.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's uh, you know, I have a

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lot of respect for for Jason Beck and you know

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Cooy and Micah you know, like looking into you know,

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their their scheme. It's been interesting to watch them play

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this year, right because a lot of the concepts that

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they're doing at the U is the same stuff that

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I had played in under Anie right when he when

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he was the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: But you know, it's you know, as far as going

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back into the conference.

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Speaker 3: Play, you know, like this is this has got to

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be a nationally recognized game where people need to know

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and feel right that there's tension, there's feelings, right, there's

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emotions that go into this. I mean, you look at

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Jason Beck and you look at these guys. They they

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coached at by U, right, they played for BOYU Kyle

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Whitningham played for BOU, Right, I mean Kilanne coach at Utah, Right.

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A lot of the guys at BOU coached at Utah.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: So these are guys that have been in the same

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place for a long time. Right, they know each other,

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they played with each other. You know that at one point, right,

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they were brothers. Right, and then this week all that

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tension and love and passion is all gonna come out

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six pm.

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Speaker 1: Crazy time. How do you think this game plays out?

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What's your score prediction? Parker dob Are you gonna go

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there for me?

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Speaker 4: Ah?

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Speaker 2: You ready to go on record?

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Speaker 4: Right on record?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't put money on this, right?

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Speaker 2: Well? No, well we could. We can do have a

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friendly bet, you know we can. You and I can

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do a friendly bet or something like that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go BYU. Let's say thirty one Utah fourteen,

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thirty one to fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a dominating.

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Speaker 1: Dominating like if BYU wins and they win in a

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convincing way and they put Kyle Whittingham into retirement with

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three games straight of l's man, I don't I don't

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know if there was any other way to balance out

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that that would be the way to balance out this

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rival even though you've been dominated right to a certain

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degree from twenty ten to present day, Like forcing Kyle

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Whittingham in retirement like that would be like the icing

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the cherry on type of BYU fans.

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Speaker 2: Like the fact that the PAC twelve died.

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Speaker 1: And you can point to the fact that Utah was

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a contributing factor to the PAC twelve vying because of

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the way that they they had their internal media consultant

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at the.

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Speaker 2: University of Utah. I don't know if you know this.

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No over evaluate the value of.

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Speaker 1: Each individual pactal school in their negotiation with ESPN and Fox,

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and so they came into it thinking, no, we're worth

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more like fifty million per school, and ESPN's like no,

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Fox didn't even want anything to do it.

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Speaker 2: They were the former media rights distributor. They didn't even

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come to the table.

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Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, let whoever else wants to get it.

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So ESPN's like, okay, well, this is your fair market value. No,

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Utah's internal consultants said no, no, no, no, it's fifty million, right,

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fifty million. So like that led to the destruction of

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the PAC twelve. The Hubris, the pompous nature, right, and

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then it forced them. They went kicking and stream. They

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were the last ones there, like, fine, we'll go to

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the Big twelve. Fine, but we believe we're Big ten

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material because we're an our one research institution.

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Speaker 2: And we owned the pact te well, right, we own.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm giving you all this because it's like if

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BYU forces Kyle Wittingham into retirement with three state losses,

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I'm like.

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Speaker 4: You think you do you think you'd retire?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think he'd be forced to retire. I

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think it'd be forced to retire. It'd be interesting, it'd

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be interesting, Like I think it could come to that.

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It could come to that, especially if bou wins by

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like seventeen points, like you know what I mean, Like

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like a thirty one to fourteen win.

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Speaker 2: That's a dominating win in this rivalry game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like anything above like anything at like above eight points,

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it's like that's a good win. Oh yeah, because it's

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not just like necessarily like a field game winning field

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goal or ot game or a two point conversion.

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Speaker 2: Game, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Do we have a stat on that?

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Speaker 1: So out of the last thirty one game, So it'll

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go last thirty years, thirty games nineteen and twelve. So

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Utah's one nineteen games bas won twelve nineteen of those

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are one score games.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I can't insane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna keep my prediction thirty one fourteen, keeping it,

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holding it.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that would be crazy.

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Speaker 1: That would bounce out the universe, the Bayu fan universe.

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They'd just like, yes, Like, I don't know which one.

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They'd be happy about the fact that the PAC twelve

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died ding Dong wicked, which is dead, you know, the

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PAC twelve pack eight pack, then stiff arming BYU due

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to you know whatever biggot you know, biggot tree that

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they employed internally, right, religious bigotry and more.

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Speaker 2: But whatever their justifications are, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Or the fact like bau forcing Ky witting him in retire.

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I don't know which one they'd rejoice more in, but

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they'd be rejoicing this.

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Speaker 2: This is a big game. This is a huge game. Parker,

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doll ladies and gentlemen, Parker, give us a brief update.

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What you're doing for work?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Family, Yeah, everything's going great. Family is great, got four

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kids now, just started coaching youth football.

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Speaker 2: Talk about I've got.

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Speaker 4: I'm coaching the A team and the B team.

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Speaker 3: So that's been a party, trying to coach two things,

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got both of our teams going to the semi finals.

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Shout out to Mountain View Bruins. Let's go shout out

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to the Bruins. It's been a new thing. I've been

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went from PG wearing blue to Mountview wearing red down

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there with Wannie Unga, he coach for Mountainview High School,

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and Alani Fua and Louis La right coaching those guys.

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Speaker 4: But it's been a blast. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: Never in my life did I think I was going

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to be an offensive coordinator with a bunch of ten

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year olds. But I'm slinging it right now, right every play,

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you guys are just just ripping it right.

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Speaker 4: Throw the slants.

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Speaker 2: No, no power on game, none of that.

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Speaker 4: Spread it out, air raid, air raid all day.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 4: We run the ball, We run the ball. Get that

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GT power you know coming in that little counteraction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So things been good. Wife's doing good, other kids

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are doing great. And then still running medical clinics right

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now with my dad. So we we just opened up

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a new clinic and in London called Top Rated Medical.

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It's actually near the Crumble that we're at right now,

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so we do. It's a one stop shop for functional

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medicine and pain, physical therapy, anything you need, honestly right

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I've been doing that and uh, you know, really just

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focusing on my kids right now and our business and

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trying to grow. We've got thirteen clinics now so between here, Utah,

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Idaho and Arizona, and and just trying to balance that

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being a dad and living my living my life right.

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Speaker 2: Love it, man, love it. Glory glory, hallelujah.

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Speaker 1: And the Porker dot family multiplying, replenishing, creating future Cougars

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and coaching up future cougars.

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Speaker 2: They're at Mountain View. Guys. That was a great segment.

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Appreciate your Parker.

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