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<v Speaker 1>That's for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and gentlemen. Thanks, Welcome back to the Typical Skeptic

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<v Speaker 2>podcast channel. If you're listening on Spotify, Apple, whatever, just rate,

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<v Speaker 2>review and follow me or whatever. Tonight I have an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing guest. He's back for a second time. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>author of the Children of Oriyan Finding the Crypto Terrestrials

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<v Speaker 2>and his name is Ryan Mustrade Evans. He's from Australia

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<v Speaker 2>and tonight we're gonna be talking to Ryan, and he

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<v Speaker 2>is when you're talking about the different contact experiences of

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<v Speaker 2>deductions in history and how they compare to this group

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<v Speaker 2>called the Crypto Terrestrials. Ryan is also an experience for himself,

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<v Speaker 2>so he will obviously get his contact to the series.

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<v Speaker 2>And so buck up. This is an amazing podcast. And

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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you a little bit more about Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>and he resides in Victoria, Australia. He has a Diploma

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<v Speaker 2>of Education and Elementary from the swissned University in Melbourne

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<v Speaker 2>and has a Bachelor of Arts first Class Honors and

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<v Speaker 2>Philosophy latob University, Melbourne and tutor of Eirish and Gaelic languages.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows that well and in all kinds of other stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in religious folks, worse studies, philosophy, linguistics. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>fluent speaker of Irish and Scottish and Gaelic, so he's

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<v Speaker 2>very well versed in the subduction phenomena too. So I

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<v Speaker 2>want to welcome to the show. Ryan, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>coming back on. How are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Robert? Thanks for having me man, I'm really good,

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks halving me back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So for the new audience that might not have

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<v Speaker 2>heard of you, I really like your theory. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>tell the people a little bit about your theory about

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<v Speaker 2>the cryptoterrestrials and how you got behind that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'll do a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>refresher for those who haven't come across me before or

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard the last one that we did together. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the crypto terrestrials. Okay, so this is a term that

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<v Speaker 1>was coined by a guy called mac Tony's. Originally he's

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<v Speaker 1>no longer with us, unfortunately passed away quite young. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a genius in my opinion. The trypotrestra word is

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<v Speaker 1>actually that actually means you know, hidden earthlings, and he

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<v Speaker 1>coined that to put it forward as an alternative theory.

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<v Speaker 1>Alternative hypothesis to explain the UFO reality we seem to

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<v Speaker 1>find ourselves in today, but not just that, to also

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<v Speaker 1>apply it to older cases in history and folklore of

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<v Speaker 1>abduction events or apparent close encounter events. Some of these

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<v Speaker 1>events very familiar to us that study uthology today, like

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<v Speaker 1>from fairy law, particularly the Celtic fairy faith. Mactony's wrote

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<v Speaker 1>his book that went into that kind of thing in

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<v Speaker 1>detail and looked for the undercurrents, the familiar substratum that

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<v Speaker 1>goes between these ancient phenomena in ancient times, modern UFO phenomena,

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<v Speaker 1>and modern era, and he tried to demonstrate that these

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<v Speaker 1>were more than likely identical beings causing these same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of phenomena. Now. I thought that his term was particularly

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate for what's going on today, first and foremost, because,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, a lot of it, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the abduction events, and a lot of the attributes of

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<v Speaker 1>the beings that seem to be the we experience nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>Under subjecting people to these kinds of experiences, they are

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<v Speaker 1>they have attributes that really conform closely to perhaps speculating

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<v Speaker 1>about beings that have a relationship with the Earth rather

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<v Speaker 1>than being extra terrestrial beings. So do you have the

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<v Speaker 1>hypothesis that everyone's very familiar with, the extraterrestrial hypothesis that

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<v Speaker 1>suggests the beings behind closing counter phenomena are certainly from

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<v Speaker 1>another planet, not Earth, but even extra soul of people

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<v Speaker 1>normally say as in outside our solar system. Why is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Mac Tony's asked, and I agree that these beings seem

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<v Speaker 1>to have a particular interest in our genetics, and certainly

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes even according to some cases and some witnesses and

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<v Speaker 1>some experiences, can interbreed with us copulate in the old

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<v Speaker 1>fashioned kind of way. You know. So you've got uh

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<v Speaker 1>the you've got up in uh nine in fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>in Brazil. Let's just say we've got the cases there.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got who are cases in Sydney as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Antonio wellis right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Villis Bois, Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, Villis Bois,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's there's several of them as well. Thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>that my moment Black then Robert h Yeah. So these cases,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a genetic affiliation there, and there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>these kinds of sexual interactions that if these beings were

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<v Speaker 1>actually completely and totally extrasturally, this seems to be a

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre way of behavior interacting with it, and even just

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<v Speaker 1>the collection of genetics from us, even when it's not

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<v Speaker 1>to the point of even when it's in a more

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<v Speaker 1>clinical way and it's not actual sexual interactions and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, What could they want with us if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a genetical affiliation with with our planet and

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<v Speaker 1>with us. So crypto trustrial effort, You know, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting way of seeing it. And I really like

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<v Speaker 1>the term, and I think it actually helps to explain

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Now I've had experiences myself, as you noted, Robert. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the beings there's much more to them than that. The

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<v Speaker 1>crypto trustrial umbrella is just it's one kind of facet

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's an excellent way of seeing them

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<v Speaker 1>to start with that kind of flesh and blood reality,

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<v Speaker 1>in a nuts and bolts reality, and before sort of

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<v Speaker 1>wandering off into the woo woo and considering some of

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<v Speaker 1>these sort of multi dimensional aspects and causi spiritual aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of the abduction phenomena and the UFO phenomena to bring

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<v Speaker 1>it back down to sort of like a solid reality

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<v Speaker 1>and then perhaps move on from there. Otherwise people just

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<v Speaker 1>get lost. So what now. In the speriences I've had

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<v Speaker 1>from when I was a kid, I've had various experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of them like sporadic experiences over my life

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<v Speaker 1>with things that I thought perhaps were fairies or elves

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. And as mac Tony's had noted,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of similarities with the abduction law early on,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the beings, even physical descriptions, matched quite

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<v Speaker 1>closely and formed quite closely to some of the races

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<v Speaker 1>of ets that people allegedly are into contact with nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had a lot of experiences of a poltergeist

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fashion, even seeing beings that struck me as

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<v Speaker 1>looking like maybe they were tree spirits. And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until Prapped about ten years ago that my experiences sort

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<v Speaker 1>of took off more and also took on more of

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<v Speaker 1>a bent of like a more stereotypical ET kind of scenario,

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<v Speaker 1>with like clinical situations or procedures, you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>typical abduct e phenomenon kind of stuff. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>started to think, hold on a secon maybe there's this

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<v Speaker 1>relationship between my older experiences and the newer ones. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are other facets to it. I do agree

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<v Speaker 1>with people that cryptoterrestrial is just one element of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is that it is the word that I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to really cling onto and attached to, because you

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<v Speaker 1>have to start somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The beings themselves have told me a lot about themselves

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<v Speaker 1>and more recent times, and that's stuff I haven't gone

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<v Speaker 1>into in that first book. But I am writing another

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<v Speaker 1>book and I'm talking a lot about that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff as well. In the first book, I only really

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<v Speaker 1>talk about my own experiences towards the end, and the

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<v Speaker 1>vast bulk of a book is me looking at different

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<v Speaker 1>cases through history, you know, inspired by Jacques the Great,

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<v Speaker 1>Jacques Vallet that noted these similarities himself. Mac Toney's built

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<v Speaker 1>on these kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 2>But Charles Hall as well, you John, Charles Hall read too, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Hall as well? Yeah, Yes, Now there's a particular

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fairy race, you know, Jacques Flai and also

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<v Speaker 1>Matoni's really focused in on the Gaelic fairy faith. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a particular kind of race that was called the gentry

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<v Speaker 1>on the Huishlan in Gaelic. They chirped and whistled, tall

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<v Speaker 1>fair beings, magical beings float around on the horizon, and

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<v Speaker 1>things are looking like willow wisp and illumined. Illuminated beings

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<v Speaker 1>and entities lived inside mountains and subterraneous dwellings could become

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<v Speaker 1>invisible at will would abduct people sometimes, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>that that description I just gave of the Gaelic gentry

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<v Speaker 1>from old Gaelic folklore is perfectly applicable to Charles Hall's

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<v Speaker 1>tall whites. So that is a major factor that I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in my book. When I'm building a profile

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<v Speaker 1>of build what I call a crypto terrestrial profile a

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<v Speaker 1>CT profile for brevity, and I look for the mutual

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<v Speaker 1>characteristics between older fairy the older fairy faith, particularly those

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<v Speaker 1>beans not puishlm, compare them to the tall whites of

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Hall. So you know, your listeners are probably familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with Charles Hall. But very very quickly, if it's okay, Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just do a brief refresher for people. Sure, Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Hall he was he went to I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>in the years nineteen sixty two to sixty four, but

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<v Speaker 1>I might be wrong about the mid sixties. Anyway, he

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<v Speaker 1>was allocated to nolla's Air Force base in Nevada, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was a weather observer. So his position in the

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force was weather observer, letting balloons aloft with a

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<v Speaker 1>theoda light, measuring their speed across the sky of phoning

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<v Speaker 1>it in. This was his job, and he'd go out

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<v Speaker 1>there on his own into the desert, and he did

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<v Speaker 1>this for two years and people he found. He later

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<v Speaker 1>came to understand that a lot of people that have

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<v Speaker 1>been there wouldn't last as long as he. They they

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<v Speaker 1>would be terrified, they didn't like talking about their experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'd leave. But basically he himself stuck to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he came to understand why people were bailing out

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<v Speaker 1>on this. He was subjected to prolonged and regular interaction

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<v Speaker 1>with a race of beings chalk white in appearance, large

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<v Speaker 1>blue eyes that were subterranean dwelling, that would bark and

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<v Speaker 1>chirp and whistle. They had advanced technologies. They would sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when he was moving around, he'd have, you know, missing time.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd say he felt his mind clouding over and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Now, these this is the same race that

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up identifying as being the very race that

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<v Speaker 1>I have interactions and encounters that they and they have

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<v Speaker 1>said to me that they call themselves the Mudgin. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not a word that Charles Hall used, but so Nahushlin

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<v Speaker 1>from a Gaelic times. The Mudguna, or the tall Whites,

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<v Speaker 1>as Charles Hall called them, are identical beings that have

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<v Speaker 1>been here for a very very long time. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>identify them as crypto terrestrials. Charles half of them as

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<v Speaker 1>being aliens. He didn't know where they were from. He

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<v Speaker 1>speculated they might be from Arctress. I think that he

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<v Speaker 1>based that on information. I think he was looking through

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<v Speaker 1>his theodolite one day. He suspected one of them had

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<v Speaker 1>been looking through it, and he thought that the being

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<v Speaker 1>had been looking at after a system. There were a

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<v Speaker 1>couple other reasons he thought maybe they were from Artress.

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<v Speaker 1>They were evasive, and that they wouldn't tell him where

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<v Speaker 1>they were from. So in my book I talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how they're definitely from the earth. Now I know that

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<v Speaker 1>they are because they since have told me these kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of things. But what I try to do in the

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<v Speaker 1>book is leave my experiences out of it as much

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<v Speaker 1>a profile of characteristics to demonstrate through older encounter of

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<v Speaker 1>encounter law folklore up till modern days. You can follow

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<v Speaker 1>these beings. You can take note and build a compendium

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<v Speaker 1>of characteristics of their appearance, their habitation, given their spiritual systems,

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<v Speaker 1>their technologies, the kinds of play and behavior, their languages,

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<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of thing. And as you move

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<v Speaker 1>through and use this cryptoterrestral profile to find them in

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<v Speaker 1>other cases, each new case serves to inform the profile,

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<v Speaker 1>ever further builds upon it. And so you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>one and building and still seeking them further to demonstrate

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<v Speaker 1>to people in a more objective way than just saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an experiencer, this is what beings have told me,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, to try and engage people in a

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<v Speaker 1>people that want or require that, and try to demonstrate

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<v Speaker 1>beyond reasonable doubt and establish that they exist. I got

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<v Speaker 2>They have some really weird stuff, like they have like

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<v Speaker 2>suit technology that me and you talked about. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to bring that up because I think that's really important,

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<v Speaker 2>like that they wear suits, and that's why people could

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<v Speaker 2>be getting tricked into thinking that they're different beings. And

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<v Speaker 2>then also another cool thing that you brought up last

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<v Speaker 2>podcast I thought we should mention is you said, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought this was so funny. You said in their craft

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<v Speaker 2>that they have like memorabilia from our planet. They have

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<v Speaker 2>like bus seats or something like that. I'm just giving

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<v Speaker 2>an example that might not be yet, but they have

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<v Speaker 2>like weird shit from like our planet in their craft, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like nostalgic stuff. It seems like, was that was that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I get that right? And that also about the.

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<v Speaker 3>The suits they war If you could touch on most

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<v Speaker 3>of these things, Okay, yeah, I'll talk about the craft

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<v Speaker 3>that I've been on first, not necessarily not memorabilia, but

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<v Speaker 1>They rely on our infrastructure to a large extent, so

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<v Speaker 1>they have now that their history is very complicated. They

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<v Speaker 1>are a kind of future human, but it depends on

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<v Speaker 1>what you mean by by time travel, because they actually

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<v Speaker 1>cross timelines, and you could argue that they're more into

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<v Speaker 1>dimensional beings than future humans. But they brought with them

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<v Speaker 1>a large amount of technology, craft and technology, advanced technology,

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<v Speaker 1>cloaking technology and things like that of all different kinds.

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't have the means or the access to

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<v Speaker 1>the materials or the infrastructure that they had back where

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<v Speaker 1>they were originally from. This gets complicated. They were from

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<v Speaker 1>a version of Earth at one stage, but anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>they anyway, they are limited now as to what they

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<v Speaker 1>can build new technology with now that they hear and

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<v Speaker 1>so they rely on our Homo sapiens infrastructure, our materials,

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<v Speaker 1>our fabrications, which means now they utilize this to great effect,

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<v Speaker 1>but use their science to use our technologies to superior effect.

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<v Speaker 1>So these kinds of what people sometimes called r V

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<v Speaker 1>craft like h and also tic TACs. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>the tic TAC craft that are famous nowadays in media

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, I think probably the same craft as the

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<v Speaker 1>craft that Charles Hall called r V like recreational vehicles,

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<v Speaker 1>because they basically look like an RV or a small

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<v Speaker 1>bus without wheels. They even sometimes have windows along the sides.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in them several times and they are they have, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like bus. Their bus seats, the seats for the pilot

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<v Speaker 1>at the front look like they're from our fighter planes

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<v Speaker 1>probably and they appear to be they're not seamless, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they haven't been like not the craft that they

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<v Speaker 1>brought with in them composed of Some of their fleet

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<v Speaker 1>are seamless biological grown grown in zero vehicles that are

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<v Speaker 1>commonly talked about in neuthology when people talk about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see a craft zipping along and it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a seamless magical thing. Sorry about that. Wow, yeah, now,

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<v Speaker 1>but the we live really close to the round about

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<v Speaker 1>here was really busy traffic. To apologize, I've closed the

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<v Speaker 1>window and all that kind of stuff, and this MICUs

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<v Speaker 1>new mIRC are not very used to it, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably picking up all sorts of sounds. But yes, but

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<v Speaker 1>the craft that I've been in are obviously made out

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<v Speaker 1>of separate sections the sectional build you know. Now, Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Hall had talked about this as well in his books

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<v Speaker 1>The Millennial Hospitality Books. Now they first came out in

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<v Speaker 1>the early two thousands. He coined the term tall bites

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<v Speaker 1>that's popularly used in eupology. Now people often use that,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was the first guy. Before that. Usually these

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of beings were more were called Nordics. Nordics is

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<v Speaker 1>an older term for them. Sometimes people make a distinction

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<v Speaker 1>between now between tall whites and Nordics, and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is largely artificial in my opinion, but

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<v Speaker 1>so millennial. In his Millennial Hospitality books, he talked about

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<v Speaker 1>these r V craft, amongst other craft large dark craft

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<v Speaker 1>and smaller vessels and things like there's no longer ones

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<v Speaker 1>that as well that were similar to the r V

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<v Speaker 1>kind of ones but looked more like like a carriage

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<v Speaker 1>from a train maybe, or like a an airline, an

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<v Speaker 1>airliner without the wings and things like that, so so

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<v Speaker 1>you get them these different lengths. But he said that

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<v Speaker 1>they had a microwaves in the Hammocks showers that looked

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<v Speaker 1>like they were straight from hardware stores at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the sixties and things like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing that kind of thing back then, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're still they're still doing that kind of thing from

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<v Speaker 1>what I can tell of being on or a couple

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>If you.

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<v Speaker 1>Having said that, I have seen other craft, but not

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I'm able to recollect anyway, because they,

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<v Speaker 1>of course could they manipulate your memory, memory manipulation and

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<v Speaker 1>mesmerization and things like that, which they had apologized to

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<v Speaker 1>me about. But now there are other craft I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>as well that are more in my opinion, probably of

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<v Speaker 1>the kind that are seamless and grown and biological in

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of way. But yeah, yes, for sure. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's less memorabilia memorabilic like that where they're

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of keepsake or something from our culture or

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<v Speaker 1>out our technology, but that they are using our technology

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<v Speaker 1>because they are here and require that to Now I'll

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<v Speaker 1>move onto the suits, as you talked about before. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the suits. So some people will be seeing this and

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<v Speaker 1>actually have video one though, but there'll be people with

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<v Speaker 1>only audio. But my book here has an excellent picture

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<v Speaker 1>on the front of the suits. I call them Boas suits,

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<v Speaker 1>named after Anturnao Villas Boas because he described something like

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<v Speaker 1>these suits or a version of these suits in his

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty seven encounter, and then subsequently there've been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different people that have that have interacted with

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<v Speaker 1>beings in these kinds of suits. So the suits can

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<v Speaker 1>change color, but then normally when they're not activated, they

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<v Speaker 1>look dark gray or black. Skin tight helmet that also

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<v Speaker 1>has like a nose piece that hangs down and flares

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<v Speaker 1>out a bit, although there's a few different shapes to

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<v Speaker 1>the nose piece, but most of the ones I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>sort of have a flared out look and then they

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<v Speaker 1>pass up over the top of the helmet. This is

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<v Speaker 1>for amplification of sounds because they hoot and raw. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's another topic we can talk about perhaps later if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to, some of their linguistic camouflage languages and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, where they mimic wildlife sounds. They wear

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<v Speaker 1>goggles the glow red at night, and then also a

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<v Speaker 1>mouthpiece some kind of breathing apparatus, which I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>is just to filter the air, because they can breathe

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<v Speaker 1>our air. They can, but they have they're susceptible to allergies,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they quite often wear a breathing device that

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<v Speaker 1>is merely a filter for dust and pollen and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>Like these suits have cloaking abilities when they can. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they can appear as though they're sort of like the

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<v Speaker 1>people are familiar with the idea of the predator, the

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<v Speaker 1>old predator movies. Yeah, that kind of hate Shemmer kind

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<v Speaker 1>of look a distortion. Sometimes it looks like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you would not know they were there. They are

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<v Speaker 1>completely invisible, and I'm not quite sure why. Sometimes their

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<v Speaker 1>suits seem to be more efficient than at other times

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<v Speaker 1>in that way. The suits have prosthetic claws, clawed hands

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<v Speaker 1>for self defense, and their hands are very very long

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Their four fingers are much longer than ours.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they have a small vestigial thumb It is

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<v Speaker 1>only about half the length of ours further up their hand.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they can cloak. They can become intangible in

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<v Speaker 1>these suits, which means they can pass through solid objects

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<v Speaker 1>that can accommodate foreign objects into their form. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>quite sure, you know. I don't know how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>They're shifting their atomic structure or something like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>to walk through solid objects, to walk through walls. They

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<v Speaker 1>can be impervious to harm with them as well, with

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<v Speaker 1>have a field so that you can't hurt them in

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<v Speaker 1>anyway with bladed weapons or with firearms or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And super strength and super speeder. They're basically super soldier suits.

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<v Speaker 1>So I call them Boa suits. Are these suits. This

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<v Speaker 1>is their stealth attire and also the attire that they garb.

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<v Speaker 1>They they gear military gear, military greet because they have

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<v Speaker 1>a military. They have two separate armies. Actually they have

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<v Speaker 1>a religious order which is like sacred monks, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they have a secular army as well. So in these suits,

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<v Speaker 1>you see them in these suits, you know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is probably where a lot of ideas about tall

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<v Speaker 1>black aliens has come from. When people see tall whites

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<v Speaker 1>in their suits, they ascribe a different name to them. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in these suits as well, they can And also they

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<v Speaker 1>have telepath technology, and they call it telepath. So in

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<v Speaker 1>their helmets they have a technology that allows them to

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<v Speaker 1>infiltrate your thoughts, implants, ideas, instill fear into your mind

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<v Speaker 1>if they wish to repel you without actually having a

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<v Speaker 1>physical interaction. So if you're walking around in a forest

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that and all of a sudden you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you shouldn't be there, there's a negative feeling

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<v Speaker 1>and negative force. It's good possibility is a possibility at

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<v Speaker 1>least that they are sending you away, trying to move

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<v Speaker 1>you away. They use that on animals, they use that

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<v Speaker 1>on humans. They can send linguistic messages into your mind

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<v Speaker 1>and also abstract ideas and thoughts, and also visual images

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<v Speaker 1>and take over your eyes and present other images to

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<v Speaker 1>you and things like that if they want you to

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<v Speaker 1>see things. Now, these particular people don't have a natural

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<v Speaker 1>level of telepathy or psychic abilities anymore, than ours, So

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<v Speaker 1>they rely on technologies. All of this stuff's technology. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are highly spiritual people or religious people. They have

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<v Speaker 1>their own belief systems. But having said that, they are

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<v Speaker 1>flesh and blood, the flesh of our flesh, the bone

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<v Speaker 1>of our bone. They use nuts and bots.

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<v Speaker 2>About the telepath tech, I'm sorry, I just hit record.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the so with with this telepathic technology telepath tech

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<v Speaker 1>I call it in my book. Yeah, they can invade

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<v Speaker 1>your mental reality and exert influence on you in lots

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<v Speaker 1>of different kinds of ways, just for linguistic communication as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking like lately that I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>writing a book on like people that think they have

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<v Speaker 2>psychiatric disorders, and I was thinking they could be like

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<v Speaker 2>either interdimensional entities or what people would think of as demons.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not religious, but you know, or this cryptoterrestrials, because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times I think I was. I was

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<v Speaker 2>saying this in another podcast. People that have schizophrenia, they

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<v Speaker 2>realize that it's an outside entity given them those thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>and they can actually get better. They can control it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they put those thoughts out. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a big thing of what we're dealing with here, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you think it's these entities.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that it may be some of the time

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<v Speaker 1>or a lot of the time. Well, I hesitate to

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<v Speaker 1>say all of the time that you could explain all

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<v Speaker 1>sort of schizophrenic yeah, good thoughts and things like that,

418
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<v Speaker 1>but I'd imagine that a lot of the time it

419
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<v Speaker 1>could be something like that that people are dealing with

420
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<v Speaker 1>and not realize. Yeah, there's I think with schizophrenia. I'm

421
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<v Speaker 1>not one hundred percent sure about this, but I think

422
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<v Speaker 1>most often the auditory hallucinations that people can experience with

423
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<v Speaker 1>schizophrenia are feel to the person like they're hearing them

424
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<v Speaker 1>with their ears, that they're actually hearing voices that are

425
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<v Speaker 1>external to them, Like they can hear people in the

426
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<v Speaker 1>next room and there's no one there, or someone's talking

427
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<v Speaker 1>to them and they're beside them, or things like that.

428
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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty wild, you know, to actually be able to

429
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<v Speaker 2>that's that's something I feel like that has to be

430
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<v Speaker 2>something with psychic psychic psychic ability and interdimensional entities, right, we.

431
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<v Speaker 1>Know, maybe maybe yeah, yeah, Well, with the technology that

432
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<v Speaker 1>I've experienced that they use, it's less like it's an

433
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<v Speaker 1>auditory hallucination and it's more like it's a it's more

434
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<v Speaker 1>like it's a silent expression within your own mind. If

435
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<v Speaker 1>it's more akin to something like your own reading voice,

436
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:12.160
<v Speaker 1>when you're reading silently to yourself.

437
00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:14.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's dangerous. That's dangerous, right.

438
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<v Speaker 1>And you well, well, this is one of their main

439
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>the ways of communicating. And it feels like it almost

440
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>feels like it's there's a texture to it. It almost

441
00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>feels like it's a like it's three D in some way,

442
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:34.559
<v Speaker 1>like it does. It's like even though it's associated with language,

443
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and it will be in a language like in your

444
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:42.640
<v Speaker 1>own language, like English for us says as our native language.

445
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:46.240
<v Speaker 1>They'll express themselves in English to say, but it will

446
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<v Speaker 1>be articulated much faster than in a much shorter space

447
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<v Speaker 1>of time than a person would normally take to say

448
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>a whole sentence or something. So even though it's identifiable

449
00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.799
<v Speaker 1>as being, say in English, it's like a packet of

450
00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:03.079
<v Speaker 1>information almost you don't hear it with your ears. It's

451
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>like you're hearing it in the center of your mind.

452
00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's obviously feminine, still sometimes obviously masculine, masculine, or

453
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>sometimes just neither in particular, just neutral, but it's but

454
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 1>it's not an auditory hallucination that sounds like something coming

455
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:18.559
<v Speaker 1>from next to you.

456
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Now I have.

457
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Been in their presence and they've been talking to me

458
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and things like that as well, using you know, just

459
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:29.279
<v Speaker 1>the way we would vocal utterances or whatever. But quite

460
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:31.680
<v Speaker 1>often they'll use this way of delivering information to you.

461
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:33.839
<v Speaker 1>And if you're particularly close to them when they use

462
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>this technology, you can feel a thump. It's like it's

463
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:40.559
<v Speaker 1>a thump in the middle of your head, and sometimes

464
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>even my ears pop. And I'm not I don't know

465
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 1>what's going on there with the physicality.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Of all of that, but there's so much interrological stuff

467
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:53.039
<v Speaker 2>in the brain, right they could be tapping into the brain.

468
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Like it makes me think that more of the reality

469
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:58.880
<v Speaker 2>is more of a computerized simulation than we think, or

470
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<v Speaker 2>that while our brains are much more like computers than

471
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:04.720
<v Speaker 2>we think, because they can just tap into us like that,

472
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:07.920
<v Speaker 2>you know. That's weird. Yeah, And then like with abductions,

473
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.319
<v Speaker 2>they can put people out and paralyze them like like nothing,

474
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Like they can put them to sleep like no tomorrow,

475
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:15.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, like they could do it like you know,

476
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 2>it's very weird. Whereas we have to be long range

477
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 2>with our psychic abilities, you know, like we're going to

478
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.960
<v Speaker 2>remote you and see things like but it's I don't

479
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>know what they're using if that's all of technology as well,

480
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:28.759
<v Speaker 2>like and let me ask you this, are those same

481
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:31.319
<v Speaker 2>aliens that are doing the abductions, like do they have

482
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:33.160
<v Speaker 2>a link to the grays or what are your thoughts

483
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 2>on that?

484
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Like, uh, yeah, well, these particular ones, the Mudginer or

485
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:42.519
<v Speaker 1>tool Watts, they do abduct people sometimes and they it's

486
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.759
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be much more of on a voluntary basis.

487
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is is they manipulate your memories as well.

488
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>So if you have volunteered or you are consenting to

489
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 1>some kind of abduction, then they remove your memory of

490
00:28:57.160 --> 00:28:59.839
<v Speaker 1>having consented. And then it's a question ethically as to

491
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.559
<v Speaker 1>whether they've removed the consent, you know, in their opinion,

492
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:07.319
<v Speaker 1>yet they haven't. But whereas there are other kinds of beings,

493
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:10.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, like some of the what would normally and

494
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>uphology be called grays. Perhaps there's a couple of different

495
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>versions of them that I know about. Some of them

496
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.839
<v Speaker 1>are taller, with more pale skin, the skin textures more

497
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:25.079
<v Speaker 1>like a belly of a snake or a lizard with

498
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 1>slight claws. They have large eyes, but you can still

499
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>see the whites of their eyes, very large craniums. And

500
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.599
<v Speaker 1>then there's another version that's a darker gray with even

501
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>more pronounced scales, slightly smaller, head shorter, with completely black eyes.

502
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:46.799
<v Speaker 1>They from what I understand, actually have the biological ability

503
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>to intrude into your mind and manipulate your thoughts and

504
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff, but genetically engineered into them.

505
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:58.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not a case of you know, normal evolution through

506
00:29:58.400 --> 00:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>natural selection.

507
00:29:59.119 --> 00:29:59.359
<v Speaker 3>This is.

508
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.599
<v Speaker 1>They've been messing with their own genomes for for a

509
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>long long time now, which has caused a lot of

510
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.359
<v Speaker 1>issues for them, and which is why they need our

511
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>genes in the first place and to interact with us.

512
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:14.839
<v Speaker 1>But because of all of the deliberate manipulation and causing

513
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:20.039
<v Speaker 1>issues in the in the genome, you know, seeing age,

514
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:24.319
<v Speaker 1>genomic systems are a holistic, natural, systemic thing. And as

515
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:28.039
<v Speaker 1>soon as you are a race that thinks you're cleverer

516
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>than you actually are and start manipulating your own genes

517
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to lengthen your lifespan or include biological evolution in your

518
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:42.119
<v Speaker 1>additions in your mind to allow you telepathic abilities, pronounce

519
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:46.079
<v Speaker 1>telepathic abilities and make these kinds of changes. Unforeseen circum

520
00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:51.240
<v Speaker 1>unforeseen symptoms arise because of that, which you can't necessarily

521
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>deal with, not through further genetic engineering, which just causes

522
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>more and sends you off on this tangent, so that

523
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>your genomic system, your DNA, starts to unravel the case

524
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.119
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of these races that need to need

525
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:09.559
<v Speaker 1>us as vehicles of natal selections to bolster of their

526
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.279
<v Speaker 1>genomes again, to return to something like they were before

527
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:14.039
<v Speaker 1>they started this kind of manipulation.

528
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 2>The one one case I wanted to bring up was

529
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Peter Kurey. I've had him on my show and we've

530
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.200
<v Speaker 2>talked about him before. That's that's an amazing case. There

531
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.720
<v Speaker 2>was a book written after it called Hair of the Alien.

532
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>If you could talk about that and what they found

533
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:29.200
<v Speaker 2>that was, that was pretty amazing.

534
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, that's thanks for that. Peter Curry. Yeah,

535
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>but the start of the interview before my mind was

536
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>going blank. I'm thinking, I can't remember these dudes' names.

537
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Peter Curry up in Sydney. Yeah, Yeah, it's wonderfully interesting

538
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:44.279
<v Speaker 1>experiences that guy had. I think he's had experiences all

539
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:48.119
<v Speaker 1>his life and he was born in Lebanon and came

540
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:50.799
<v Speaker 1>out here as a young boy. But he he has

541
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>memories of seeing UFOs. I think he was playing on

542
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a rooftop in Lebanon with another with a group of kids,

543
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>and some craft came down and the rest of the

544
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.319
<v Speaker 1>rest of his friends were all frozen, like they've been

545
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>switched off, Which is another what do guys have where

546
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>other people in the room will just vague out and

547
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:12.599
<v Speaker 1>they'll talk to the person they want to talk to

548
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and then everyone will be switched back on again. So

549
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>here howd that happened from a young age? And his

550
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>mother as well recalls when he was a baby. I

551
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:21.119
<v Speaker 1>think she looked out the window and there was this

552
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.279
<v Speaker 1>tall fair man standing at the window looking at her

553
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>and moved away. So but yeah, it was in nineteen

554
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:29.759
<v Speaker 1>ninety two. I mean, he's had lots and lots of experiences,

555
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and lots in the eighties, I think, but the one

556
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that people normally think of when they think of Peter

557
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.839
<v Speaker 1>Curry is his nineteen ninety two experience. And that was

558
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:44.839
<v Speaker 1>the book that was the main topic of the Bill

559
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Chalk of book Bill Chalk or Australian researcher. The book

560
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>called Hair of the Alien and other forensic evidence or

561
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>something I think of that. It's called this is a

562
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>cool book. I recommend people by that. It's just on Amazon.

563
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>The Hair of the Alien by Bill Chalker. He considers

564
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.759
<v Speaker 1>a few different cases, world cases and Australian cases, but

565
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>he particularly focuses on Peter Curry nine only two. He

566
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>woke up and there was a woman who's lying in bed.

567
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I think he felt like there was something. There was

568
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>movement on the bed and he thought it felt like

569
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.279
<v Speaker 1>a cat pouncing onto the bed or something like that.

570
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:23.359
<v Speaker 1>But when he looked, there was one woman with darker

571
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 1>skin and huge black eyes sitting on the edge of

572
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:30.359
<v Speaker 1>the bed naked, and another woman sitting on him. Answering

573
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the description, the basic description of Charles Hall's tall whites,

574
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>very tall, Peter Curry's six foot tall or over six

575
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 1>foot tall himself. He said she was a good foot

576
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:42.799
<v Speaker 1>taller than him I think, or would have been if

577
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>she stood up. Huge blue eyes, he said. White, fine hair,

578
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>really fine white hair. That's another thing that Charles All

579
00:33:55.359 --> 00:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>talks about that Antonio Elis Boas talks about these people

580
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>have very fine blonde hair or white hair. That's not

581
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:08.639
<v Speaker 1>as abundant as Erron, but what makes and then they

582
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>had this interaction. He became afraid, and he bitter, he said,

583
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:13.559
<v Speaker 1>he bitter, and he felt like something broke off in

584
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 1>his throat. And then he was having trouble breathe swallowing.

585
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:19.559
<v Speaker 1>And then they were gone and they were having these interactions,

586
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>he said, they were like they were communicating to his mind,

587
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:23.159
<v Speaker 1>talking about how there was going to be a baby

588
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:24.039
<v Speaker 1>from this experience.

589
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Had he copulated with her?

590
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, well that that is the implication, I think,

591
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>even though I think he says he doesn't actually remember

592
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that act itself, like she was already on him by

593
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:42.559
<v Speaker 1>the time his and he and he's talking about how

594
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>he had, you know, just strange mental images in his

595
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>mind and felt almost like he wasn't inside his body

596
00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:50.719
<v Speaker 1>at one stage. And there was obviously a lot of

597
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>mental manipulation classifying or putting a state of hypnosis or

598
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.159
<v Speaker 1>mesmerization anyway as well. So he's under under the he's

599
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>under mental influence. And but the most so that would

600
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 1>just be, you know, an amazing experience in itself and

601
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:10.079
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of thing. But what what makes it

602
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:17.599
<v Speaker 1>beyond interesting and so compelling and so you know, filled

603
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:21.559
<v Speaker 1>with well, I think the implications of it are just

604
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.039
<v Speaker 1>just incredible, and I talk about it in my book

605
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.840
<v Speaker 1>as well. How he then went to the bathroom and

606
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 1>he found a hair that he put into a bag

607
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't his pale hair. Now they have he set

608
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>that aside. And then since Bill Chalk of the guy

609
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:42.559
<v Speaker 1>who wrote the book about his experiences wrote The Hair

610
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>of the Alien, he and some other scientists did analyses

611
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:52.159
<v Speaker 1>on this hair and found that it was human but

612
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>had some bizarre qualities to it, where the shaft of

613
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:02.559
<v Speaker 1>the hair seemed to have mongoloid DNA Asian DNA, but

614
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>of a very rare kind and type, whereas the hair

615
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>root seem to come from a different person, so it

616
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>was like it was a hair graft, and the root itself,

617
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>which presumably is would hold the DNA of the individual herself,

618
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.159
<v Speaker 1>was rare Gaelic basque DNA.

619
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Do you think the alien could have been using that

620
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:32.760
<v Speaker 2>body as a as a container, like using some kind

621
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.440
<v Speaker 2>of rare basque person slash mongoloid as some kind of

622
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 2>weird like body container, Like maybe they have body containers

623
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:42.719
<v Speaker 2>that they have to transfer into, like their consciousness or

624
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.039
<v Speaker 2>something like that. To conscripulate.

625
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's just them, because these are this

626
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<v Speaker 1>is the way they look the ones I've seen, and

627
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I've done a lot of sketches. Put some of the

628
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>sketches in my book, and I'll put some more in

629
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>other books as well. Disappearance. This is what they That's

630
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>what they look like. That's an stillent description that he

631
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:05.639
<v Speaker 1>gives of her physicality, and the Charles Hall gives as well. Now,

632
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the reason that they I think that they have Gaelic

633
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>rare Gaelic basque DNA is because they've been here for

634
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:17.519
<v Speaker 1>centuries for millennia, interbreeding with us occasionally anyway that they

635
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>have now have Gaelic DNA in them structurally and basque.

636
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:28.639
<v Speaker 1>And this is all to again reinvigorate and reinforce their

637
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>own genomes and allow them to continue reproducing themselves, because

638
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:35.880
<v Speaker 1>there they would die out that they're they're so impoverished

639
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:40.039
<v Speaker 1>genetically from deliberate genetic and manipulation and other issues that

640
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.880
<v Speaker 1>have maladies and pathologies that they can't deal with other

641
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:48.800
<v Speaker 1>than trying to reinject our healthy DNA back into their

642
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>their people, their their.

643
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Or whatever they are.

644
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Rights.

645
00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:58.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, well, let me ask you this, what do

646
00:37:58.400 --> 00:37:58.840
<v Speaker 2>they eat?

647
00:37:58.960 --> 00:37:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Like?

648
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:00.519
<v Speaker 2>What are they? What do we would you said their

649
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:03.480
<v Speaker 2>genetic makeup is like where do you think their genetic

650
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:05.400
<v Speaker 2>makeup comes from? Or what planet do they come from?

651
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:08.599
<v Speaker 2>And then or what is their what is their existence?

652
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:10.280
<v Speaker 2>And then also what do they eat?

653
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, they are a version of us from about fifty

654
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:19.440
<v Speaker 1>two thousand years in our future. But it gets pretty

655
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>complicated because they're from the future of a different timeline.

656
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>We are not going to evolve or change into them anymore.

657
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:32.360
<v Speaker 1>And they have come here to they've been here for

658
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>a long time, and you could say they're originally from Earth.

659
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I use the term cryptoterrestrial. Also, they've

660
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>been here for so long, so they're an indigenous humanoid

661
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>indigenous to Earth. But it gets quite complicated because it

662
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:49.519
<v Speaker 1>was a different version of Earth. But weren't necessarily going

663
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:51.519
<v Speaker 1>to that because it does get quite complicated.

664
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 2>But having said that, at a point, it's timeline, different timelines.

665
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Age, yeah, time timelin this sorry, yeah, it's like Rick

666
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and Morty kind of stuff. Rather than time traveling back

667
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.360
<v Speaker 1>down into their own past, they've gone to another timeline

668
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>that is, for all intents and purposes, identical to their

669
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:13.800
<v Speaker 1>own ancient past, but it isn't their own ancient past.

670
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:16.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just another timeline. So they have in a sense,

671
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 1>hijacked our timeline. Depends on how kind you want to

672
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>be to them as to say, as to how strong

673
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.400
<v Speaker 1>in emotive the language you want to use, you could say, really,

674
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:28.639
<v Speaker 1>they've hijacked our timeline, and they have to use us

675
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>as like a like free range archaic humans, free range

676
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:36.880
<v Speaker 1>ancient versions of themselves that they can whose gene pool

677
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 1>they can dip into when they need to to reinvigorate

678
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:45.639
<v Speaker 1>their own further generations and children. Now having said that

679
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:50.320
<v Speaker 1>they are, they are known to majestic as Orion's and

680
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:53.320
<v Speaker 1>that is because for tens of thousands of years, at

681
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>one point in their own timeline, they came from an Earth,

682
00:39:56.239 --> 00:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>they left it and traveled to oriyon middle star of

683
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Oriyan's belt, so that's called Al Alam or Epsilon O'rionus.

684
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>They colonize an earth like planet orbiting on Alam, and

685
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:14.159
<v Speaker 1>were therefore tens of thousands of years before deciding to

686
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.800
<v Speaker 1>travel into dimensionally or time travel or however you want

687
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 1>to see it, to access ancient versions of themselves. But

688
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:27.519
<v Speaker 1>they so their genetic stock is ours is. They really

689
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.320
<v Speaker 1>are a version of us. They're very very closely related

690
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 1>to us to the extent that they can those particular ones,

691
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the mudgeon or the tall Whites, they're so closely related

692
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.559
<v Speaker 1>to us that they can actually interbreed with us, whereas

693
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 1>other future humans, like some some that are more like grays,

694
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:46.920
<v Speaker 1>couldn't copulate with us and produce offspring. They have to

695
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>use other more you know, clinical procedures and things like that,

696
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.639
<v Speaker 1>with extracting sperm and over them and growing versions of

697
00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:56.639
<v Speaker 1>themselves and things like that.

698
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:01.280
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's so interesting saying. What I was going

699
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:06.679
<v Speaker 2>to say was, Okay, what are some of Charles Hall's

700
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:08.280
<v Speaker 2>other accounts like that he talks about.

701
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, that's that's right, dumb. I was going to

702
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>say that before, I think before we unfortunately had a

703
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>bit of an interruption there in the stream. But yeah,

704
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Charles well, one of his books, that's the fifth book

705
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:23.880
<v Speaker 1>he's written six and not the biggest fan of his

706
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:28.519
<v Speaker 1>sixth book, number six, but number five. I'd recommend to

707
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.840
<v Speaker 1>people the first four of good and the best. Number

708
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 1>five is excellent as well. Number five he called the grays.

709
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Now in Charles Hall's own opinion, he was interacting with

710
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:44.159
<v Speaker 1>a different kind of alien to the aliens or ets

711
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.119
<v Speaker 1>he was interacting with in the first four books, and

712
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>he calls them grays. He says they're tall grays. Now

713
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>in the book itself, he never gives any reason as

714
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.360
<v Speaker 1>to why he calls them grays. He says that they're

715
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>wearing dark gray suits. Some of them are very tall,

716
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:01.159
<v Speaker 1>some of obviously children and shorter wearing these dark gray

717
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:07.280
<v Speaker 1>suits with masks with long nose pieces. Now, I've seen

718
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.760
<v Speaker 1>suits like this, and I know that tall whites wear them.

719
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Nowhere in his first four books does he mention ever

720
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:15.119
<v Speaker 1>seeing tall whites wear these. But when he does finally

721
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:18.679
<v Speaker 1>interact with beans wearing these kinds of suits that I

722
00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:21.760
<v Speaker 1>call bowl with suits, he says that they're grays. Now

723
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:25.679
<v Speaker 1>one stage, he says he could see the skin on

724
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the face of one, and he doesn't say it's gray.

725
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.679
<v Speaker 1>He said it was yellow, looking like the light of

726
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:35.679
<v Speaker 1>his weather shack, yellow orange like all of his weather shack.

727
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking on a sec like, tall whites can

728
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:41.280
<v Speaker 1>look all different kinds of colors if you see them

729
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:44.599
<v Speaker 1>in different lighting as well, because they're like chalk white.

730
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:48.400
<v Speaker 1>If you have if you have yellow lighting, blue lighting

731
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:51.599
<v Speaker 1>in your house. They do look like they're more yellow

732
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 1>or more blue, even more than than Homo sapiens would

733
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:58.519
<v Speaker 1>of any kind of Homo sapien race, where they they're

734
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:00.599
<v Speaker 1>just so white, much more white then, you know, like

735
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:02.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm quite a pale person, much whiter than me. They're

736
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:03.800
<v Speaker 1>incredibly like paper white.

737
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Now.

738
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.039
<v Speaker 1>So now he called his book the Great So I

739
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:09.199
<v Speaker 1>go into that in detail in one of the later

740
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.280
<v Speaker 1>chapters in my book Children of Ryan, where I talk

741
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.760
<v Speaker 1>about my reasons for believing that. In that particular book

742
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:19.079
<v Speaker 1>he was still interacting with tall whites, what he calls

743
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 1>tall whites, what I call Madgina or O'Ryan's, but he

744
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.760
<v Speaker 1>just believed them to be another race. Now, it's a

745
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>very interesting book because he went out to a different place,

746
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a different part of the mountains in Indian Springs or

747
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:33.920
<v Speaker 1>beyond Indian Springs somewhere, I think, but in the larger

748
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 1>area of the Nallis Air Force Base still and was

749
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>subjected to beings practicing stealth techniques on him at night

750
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:48.400
<v Speaker 1>in these suits, and even in my opinion, getting in

751
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>his head and convincing him of realities, getting in his head,

752
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:56.800
<v Speaker 1>of manipulating his sense of the narrative of events as

753
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>they were happening to him, and things like that. There

754
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of mental men manipulation, in my opinion

755
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.599
<v Speaker 1>beings exerted on Charles Hall, particularly in that fifth book.

756
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>But so that makes it a very interesting book in

757
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:13.840
<v Speaker 1>my opinion. It is a book that shows you the

758
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>training techniques that young toall whites go through to be

759
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:22.199
<v Speaker 1>able to use these suits for when they leave safe

760
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 1>areas to wander about in our world, you know, in

761
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Homo sapiens controlled zones, moving through the world and not

762
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>being noticed and being able to exert mental manipulation on

763
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>people that they come across, to still fear in people's

764
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:41.920
<v Speaker 1>minds or to send because this is another feature as well,

765
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:46.679
<v Speaker 1>that's a that's in shared in common by ancient fairy

766
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 1>and elf beliefs and then also the toll whites and

767
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:54.880
<v Speaker 1>other other cripatressural races. Is what could what you could

768
00:44:54.880 --> 00:45:00.760
<v Speaker 1>call glamory casting glamours, you know, convincing you by sending

769
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:03.559
<v Speaker 1>an image into your mind that they do not look

770
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.079
<v Speaker 1>the way they actually look, convincing you that you're talking

771
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:08.920
<v Speaker 1>to someone that you know, maybe almost like it seems

772
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:11.800
<v Speaker 1>like a doppelganger. You'd be talking to a friend. You

773
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:13.719
<v Speaker 1>think it's your friend. You wander around the hill and

774
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.639
<v Speaker 1>your friend wasn't there. They've taken on a form. They

775
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:21.159
<v Speaker 1>haven't actually morphed physically to look like your friend, but

776
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:27.039
<v Speaker 1>they've projected into your mind in a hypnotic fashion, in

777
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:29.760
<v Speaker 1>a manipulative way, what they want you to see them as,

778
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and then you do. And in Charles Hall's fifth book

779
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:39.480
<v Speaker 1>or Sorry I can't your audio is gone, Sorry, Robert.

780
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I just want to say, that's familiar to like

781
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 2>what fairy War was like when people talk about the fairies.

782
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:00.599
<v Speaker 2>The fairies could appear to people as whatever they want. Right,

783
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.000
<v Speaker 2>A fairy can not morph itself, but like it could

784
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.280
<v Speaker 2>predure or maybe it could morph itself. We're not sure.

785
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:08.960
<v Speaker 2>But like they can also project in your mind, and

786
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:11.440
<v Speaker 2>the Grays do that too, right, they project things in

787
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:13.119
<v Speaker 2>your mind. Is that what they want you to see

788
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:13.400
<v Speaker 2>them as?

789
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Right? Yeah, that's right. And also that you are in

790
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:18.840
<v Speaker 1>places that you aren't. You know that you might be

791
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:20.519
<v Speaker 1>on board their ship, but to you it still looks

792
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:25.760
<v Speaker 1>like your bedroom and things like that. Yeah, that's right. Fake,

793
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I suppose you could call them in euthology. People

794
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:33.599
<v Speaker 1>often talk about screen memories, of course, where you know

795
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>that you'll you will not remember something as it actually was,

796
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:39.400
<v Speaker 1>like an abduction experience, but there'll be some other memory

797
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.880
<v Speaker 1>or that there'll be you know, a memory of having

798
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:46.360
<v Speaker 1>communicated with a being will be replaced to having communicated

799
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:49.559
<v Speaker 1>with an owl or a fox or you know, some

800
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:53.679
<v Speaker 1>animal or something like that, and you're quite confused by that.

801
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I suppose there's there's that kind of I suppose there's

802
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 1>some kind of equatable those things screen memories and glamor

803
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:03.639
<v Speaker 1>or glamory. But yeah, for sure, that's in the old

804
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:05.920
<v Speaker 1>elf and fairy law. And when we're talking about elves

805
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:09.039
<v Speaker 1>and fairies, it's sort of like those older ideas of

806
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:11.360
<v Speaker 1>elves and fairies and the chic and like the Gaelic

807
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:14.320
<v Speaker 1>fairies and things not necessarily like you know, little women

808
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.320
<v Speaker 1>with wings as fairies or Santa's helpers at the North

809
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Bowl for elves. But these older ideas elf and fairy

810
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:23.960
<v Speaker 1>used to be fairly interchangeable as terms in early modern

811
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.199
<v Speaker 1>times in the Middle Ages to talk about these kinds

812
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:33.079
<v Speaker 1>of non human entities, these beings that lived in subterranean

813
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:38.760
<v Speaker 1>dwellings and that you'd have to appease, you know, and

814
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 1>it also this ties in as well. I'm sort of

815
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>rambling a bit sorry at the moment, but I'll just

816
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>say at the moment that this also ties in, you know,

817
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:50.159
<v Speaker 1>comparing and equating fairy law and modern UFO law or

818
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:51.760
<v Speaker 1>abduction phenomena.

819
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Is that.

820
00:47:56.360 --> 00:48:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Cattle mutilations. Yeah, the fairies and olves would would kill

821
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:12.079
<v Speaker 1>livestock that was coming too close to their underground habitations

822
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 1>and also injure and sometimes kill humans as well. Now,

823
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:22.280
<v Speaker 1>this this is this continues on till today, of course.

824
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:26.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's there's a huge amount of controversy about

825
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:30.360
<v Speaker 1>who's doing cattle mutilations nowadays, of course, and some people

826
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.039
<v Speaker 1>say the government doing it, or black ops, or that

827
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:36.320
<v Speaker 1>it's some kind of disinformation campaign trying to make people

828
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:38.480
<v Speaker 1>think that aliens are doing it, to think that aliens

829
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:40.199
<v Speaker 1>are more evil than they are, and all this kind

830
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. But uh, they do. I think they are

831
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:48.280
<v Speaker 1>responsible for some of them, you know, like tall whites

832
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:51.679
<v Speaker 1>are responsible in particular, Tall whites Mudginer are responsible for

833
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:57.039
<v Speaker 1>some animal mutilations we're in respect in particular to trying

834
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to exert psychological warfare against Homo sapiens. That are living

835
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 1>too close to their underground habitations. So you have a

836
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:08.920
<v Speaker 1>famous instance of Skinwalker Ranch that all of your listeners

837
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>are going to be very familiar with. I'm sure, but

838
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:15.599
<v Speaker 1>I'd go into my book a little bit about what

839
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I think the reasons are behind Skinwalker Ranch being one

840
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:21.519
<v Speaker 1>of the most haunted places on Earth and this sort

841
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:26.320
<v Speaker 1>of paranormal hotspot. It is, in my opinion, on or

842
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:29.320
<v Speaker 1>very close to a tall white habitation.

843
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Habitation.

844
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>They don't they don't play nice if you a have dogs.

845
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:41.400
<v Speaker 1>They don't like dogs. They think of dogs as being dangerous,

846
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:46.079
<v Speaker 1>especially around their children, or be if you're a hunter

847
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:49.440
<v Speaker 1>or have firearms, they don't have any sense of humor

848
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 1>about that kind of thing because they consider to be

849
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:56.400
<v Speaker 1>a danger. So you have malicious and aggressive intent, like

850
00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:59.039
<v Speaker 1>let's say you're setting traps, you've got a firearm, and

851
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you're wandering around, You're going to shot rabbits in the

852
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:04.719
<v Speaker 1>woods near your ranch or something like that. They don't

853
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:06.840
<v Speaker 1>consider that to be acceptable. They'll try to move you

854
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:09.400
<v Speaker 1>on so that another more acceptable family might occupy the

855
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:15.280
<v Speaker 1>property or even better produce, you know, such a such

856
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>a strong negative folklore in the surrounding population of people

857
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:23.639
<v Speaker 1>in the area, in the town, or in the in

858
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:25.639
<v Speaker 1>the states, or whatever, so that no one in their

859
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:26.679
<v Speaker 1>right mind wants to live there.

860
00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Because it's a good question. The guy that the guy

861
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:33.760
<v Speaker 2>that first originally inhabited Skinwalker Ranch, I can't remember his name,

862
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:35.719
<v Speaker 2>but he was the owner. He was a cattle farmer,

863
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:39.079
<v Speaker 2>so maybe they didn't like. Look, I mean, I'm not

864
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:44.039
<v Speaker 2>a vegan. I don't know, I'm somewhat, But that's because

865
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:45.960
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying is do they not like that that?

866
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Do they not like the cattle or the cattle farming either?

867
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Is that?

868
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Well that's a thing, Yeah, that that Yes, that's right.

869
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Well they are vegans in the Yeah, if you they

870
00:50:58.280 --> 00:51:04.320
<v Speaker 1>only eat plant, plant products, they don't need any animal products.

871
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:07.519
<v Speaker 1>They also refuse to wear any clothing that's made from

872
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:12.760
<v Speaker 1>animal products, only wear synthetic clothing or plant based clothing

873
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:17.079
<v Speaker 1>and things like that. Now, and it might seem like

874
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:19.800
<v Speaker 1>a contradiction where you stay hold on a sec they're

875
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:26.400
<v Speaker 1>prepared to kill cattle, but they're vegans. Why are they vegans?

876
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:27.800
<v Speaker 1>And what's going on there? And why are they so

877
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.639
<v Speaker 1>prepared to be inhuman enough to just kill cattle to

878
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:33.880
<v Speaker 1>prove a point as a psychologue in their psychological warfare

879
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:36.719
<v Speaker 1>to drive out a family or something like that, or

880
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:41.360
<v Speaker 1>to eliminate the a family's business or something like that.

881
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>But the contradiction is they, as you were saying and implying,

882
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:56.519
<v Speaker 1>they do not approve of this kind of agriculture, animal agriculture,

883
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:59.960
<v Speaker 1>They don't approve of that kind of those kinds of

884
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>eating habits in us. And in an environmental sense, they

885
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:08.880
<v Speaker 1>see it as being contributing to an environmental declimb, declimb,

886
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the biosphere coming down too much of our natural forest

887
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 1>and habitat replacing it with huge amounts of farmland. You know,

888
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go too much into this. I

889
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:18.920
<v Speaker 1>am a vegan by the way. I don't want to

890
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:20.559
<v Speaker 1>go too much into this and make your show me

891
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:23.519
<v Speaker 1>ranting abo that kind of stuff. But yes, they do

892
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:28.119
<v Speaker 1>have a dog in that fight, so to speak. They

893
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:30.039
<v Speaker 1>disapprove of it and all.

894
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:32.840
<v Speaker 2>But I just just on a personal quest, I've went

895
00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:36.760
<v Speaker 2>more vegetarian lately. I went mostly fruits and vegetables. I mean,

896
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.320
<v Speaker 2>I do still eat some chicken and fish, but I

897
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:42.159
<v Speaker 2>mean I've cut out like all pork, all red meat.

898
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:44.800
<v Speaker 2>And I used to be a heavy, well not heavy,

899
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.639
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I worked out, so I was protein

900
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:49.880
<v Speaker 2>was essential for me. I thought it was, but then

901
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I realized you can get a lot of that from

902
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:53.480
<v Speaker 2>plant products, you know what I mean, you can get

903
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:55.760
<v Speaker 2>plant And I don't want to turn this into a

904
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 2>health episode, but I mean, I'm just I see you

905
00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:00.559
<v Speaker 2>in your ways, and I see why they're both. People

906
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:03.159
<v Speaker 2>think that because you get when you eat fruits and vegetables,

907
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:05.679
<v Speaker 2>you get energy. When you eat meat, you don't really

908
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.159
<v Speaker 2>get energy, you know, I don't know where I don't,

909
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:10.480
<v Speaker 2>at least I've never really got an energy first. But

910
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:12.239
<v Speaker 2>when I drink a smoothie in the morning and it's

911
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.320
<v Speaker 2>fruits and vegetables, I get automatic energy. So that's just

912
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:16.840
<v Speaker 2>should tell people something right there.

913
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, that's right. I think all of the all

914
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.880
<v Speaker 1>of the races that I know of vegans, you know,

915
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't all of the CT races or whatever.

916
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:32.719
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you're right, meat that we don't need it,

917
00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:36.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, and nowadays in particular, you know, we can

918
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:38.960
<v Speaker 1>get all of the protein and all of the nutrients

919
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 1>that we that we need from plant based products and

920
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:45.239
<v Speaker 1>from you know, meat substitutes and things like that in supermarkets.

921
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:48.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, if we were to return to hunter gatherers,

922
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:50.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, it might be a little bit difficult to

923
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:53.199
<v Speaker 1>maintain vegan habits if all of a sudden, you know,

924
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:57.119
<v Speaker 1>there was some post apocalyptic world we're all scavenging around

925
00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:03.199
<v Speaker 1>and you know, spearing deer or something like that, because

926
00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:05.639
<v Speaker 1>because then you know, you really have to try and

927
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>eat everything you possibly can, because you're you're bordering.

928
00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:11.800
<v Speaker 2>On yeah, survival, you know.

929
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

930
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:16.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm wanted to touch on two cases before we go that.

931
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Two cases I thought were important with it you bring

932
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:23.360
<v Speaker 2>conclusions on were the Weedsoe case and the Averley case

933
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:25.559
<v Speaker 2>A V. E. L. E. Y. Avery. I don't know

934
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:28.039
<v Speaker 2>if that's how I pronounce it, but those were two

935
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:30.719
<v Speaker 2>cases I thought were interesting that tie into this, right.

936
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, that's right. Chris Bledsoe is pretty well known,

937
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:42.519
<v Speaker 1>I think, pretty famous in in ufology and paranormal research world.

938
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:47.239
<v Speaker 1>And uh he the Fayetteville incident in two thousand and

939
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:52.719
<v Speaker 1>seven was his first conscious experience, or say conscious experience,

940
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.199
<v Speaker 1>because in my opinion he's probably had more experiences early

941
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 1>earlier in his life as well. But in the Fayetteville incident,

942
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:05.119
<v Speaker 1>for people who don't know about it, Christopher Bledsoe went

943
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:09.039
<v Speaker 1>with his son, Chris Bledsoe Jr. And a few contractors,

944
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:11.400
<v Speaker 1>because he was a builder who's quite a successful businessman

945
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:14.639
<v Speaker 1>building company. I'm not quite sure what he does for

946
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:16.119
<v Speaker 1>a cross nowadays, but this is what he was doing

947
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:20.800
<v Speaker 1>at the time two thousand and seven. I think three contractors,

948
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:25.119
<v Speaker 1>acquaintances friends of his, and his son and himself went

949
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:30.639
<v Speaker 1>down fishing. Now he decided to go for a walk

950
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:33.400
<v Speaker 1>off into the woods and he saw lights in the

951
00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:37.039
<v Speaker 1>sky tried to run away from what he heard. Initially,

952
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:38.960
<v Speaker 1>before he even got to the top of a hill,

953
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.639
<v Speaker 1>I think, and saw these lights. He could hear something

954
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:44.440
<v Speaker 1>invisible rustling through the bushes, like there was something following him,

955
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:46.159
<v Speaker 1>and he'd stop and look and there's nothing there. That's

956
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:49.320
<v Speaker 1>quite a common throng through lots of different cases that

957
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:52.559
<v Speaker 1>lead up to abduction events with tour whites and whatnot.

958
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:56.880
<v Speaker 1>But where you'll hear them hurt, they even heard you

959
00:55:57.400 --> 00:55:59.159
<v Speaker 1>in a certain place, you know, but you won't be

960
00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:00.760
<v Speaker 1>able to see them because they're wearing their suits and

961
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:04.800
<v Speaker 1>what So he went up. I think he got to

962
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:06.440
<v Speaker 1>a top of a hill and he saw these lights

963
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:09.880
<v Speaker 1>in the sky and he went to run away. I

964
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:11.880
<v Speaker 1>think he hid, and then he saw one coming up

965
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:13.440
<v Speaker 1>above him, but then he ran off, and when he

966
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:16.480
<v Speaker 1>got back, he'd been gone for hours, but didn't realize,

967
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you classic missing time scenario. Didn't realize how long he'd

968
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.920
<v Speaker 1>been gone for many many hours. I can't remember off

969
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:27.119
<v Speaker 1>the top of my head how many now, but it

970
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:30.159
<v Speaker 1>might have been like five, very very long period of time.

971
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:32.239
<v Speaker 1>And he had no idea he'd gone that far. But

972
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:34.400
<v Speaker 1>what disturbed in most of all was that his son

973
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:36.760
<v Speaker 1>was also missing. So there were just the three guys,

974
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:39.519
<v Speaker 1>the contractors they're fishing. His son was also missing, and

975
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:42.039
<v Speaker 1>he said, where's my son? And his son apparently had

976
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:44.480
<v Speaker 1>gone missing a fair while before as well, to look

977
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:49.119
<v Speaker 1>for him. So he ran back to the woods and

978
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:51.760
<v Speaker 1>found his son carrying in the bushes. In the bushes,

979
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and his son still remembered what had happened to him.

980
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:58.400
<v Speaker 1>He'd been hiding when there were these small beings with

981
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:02.320
<v Speaker 1>glowing red eyes that were sort of blinking in and out,

982
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:05.679
<v Speaker 1>going invisible and then coming back again. And they were playing,

983
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I think they were playing with bottles and things like this,

984
00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:11.519
<v Speaker 1>And when the other guys were looking for the two bledos,

985
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the beans would disappear. When the truck went past, and

986
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:18.920
<v Speaker 1>then they'd reappear again. And so Chris Bledso's son, Chris

987
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:21.840
<v Speaker 1>bled Joe Jr. Was in the bushes hiding from these

988
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:24.159
<v Speaker 1>beans until they let him leave again. I'm not quite

989
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:26.719
<v Speaker 1>sure if he was paralyzed he couldn't move in that

990
00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:29.000
<v Speaker 1>they were exerting some kind of manipulation in his mind,

991
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:31.039
<v Speaker 1>which they can do, or what they was simply just

992
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:33.320
<v Speaker 1>frightened of them and waiting till they had left. But

993
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:38.480
<v Speaker 1>they all got in, and then there were lots of

994
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:40.400
<v Speaker 1>stars in the sky that began to fall, and then

995
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:44.719
<v Speaker 1>all of them altogether back at the original position, saw

996
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:47.559
<v Speaker 1>that all these stars were all falling out of the

997
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:51.480
<v Speaker 1>sky and landing across the river and craft in the sky.

998
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:54.320
<v Speaker 1>And then some of the beans started galloping on all

999
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:56.760
<v Speaker 1>fours after them as they were trying to get out

1000
00:57:56.800 --> 00:58:01.360
<v Speaker 1>in the truck, actually chasing them like gazelle like quadrupedans,

1001
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:05.159
<v Speaker 1>which is another thing that tall whites to, especially their children.

1002
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.199
<v Speaker 1>They can run on run on all fours. Their arms

1003
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:09.840
<v Speaker 1>are longer than our's relative of their body length, and

1004
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:15.679
<v Speaker 1>they can quite naturally move around on all fours. And

1005
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Charles Hall talks about that. I've seen them doing that

1006
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.559
<v Speaker 1>several occasions when I was a kid. I remember them

1007
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:24.519
<v Speaker 1>doing that. I was playing with them with the with

1008
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:28.840
<v Speaker 1>their children being watched by the tall dark ones with

1009
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:32.920
<v Speaker 1>going red eyes in the other suits. And then so

1010
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:36.559
<v Speaker 1>he ended up dropping people off with craft following them.

1011
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:40.199
<v Speaker 1>And when the two Bledzoes got back to their house,

1012
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Chris Bledsoe looked outside, Chris bleds has and you looked

1013
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:48.679
<v Speaker 1>outside and saw a seven foot tall bean walking around

1014
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:53.920
<v Speaker 1>in the garden. And they drove off. They drove off

1015
00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:56.159
<v Speaker 1>again and parked in a vehicle in the middle of

1016
00:58:56.239 --> 00:58:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the field and slept the other night. Now, since then,

1017
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:02.400
<v Speaker 1>he's had lots of hypnotic aggression sessions and found out

1018
00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:04.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of what happened to him in that missing time,

1019
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.280
<v Speaker 1>considerable amount of missing time in the original event, and

1020
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:09.719
<v Speaker 1>he has come to be a well known experiencer. And

1021
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:12.800
<v Speaker 1>his family have experienced lots of things, his wife's experience things,

1022
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 1>but they have these this double aspect happening where and

1023
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Chris bleds those cases particularly informative and helpful when you're

1024
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:25.719
<v Speaker 1>profiling and trying to describe these beings and add to

1025
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:29.280
<v Speaker 1>add to a list of characteristics and assigned to them.

1026
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Different appearances and things like that that they can take on.

1027
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Is that not only did you have these more typical

1028
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:42.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of et abduction phenomenon phenomena, but shadow people, poltergeist activity.

1029
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Now these things, as people who've studied followed you will

1030
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:48.440
<v Speaker 1>be quite aware of paranormal research in general. People that

1031
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:54.440
<v Speaker 1>see UFOs or have abduction experiences quite often this will

1032
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:59.119
<v Speaker 1>also come with ghostly figures in their house, disembodied voices,

1033
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:01.960
<v Speaker 1>television's to in themselves on and off, radios coming on,

1034
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:06.239
<v Speaker 1>footsteps on the roof, footsteps down the stairs, shadow beans

1035
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:07.000
<v Speaker 1>moving through.

1036
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:09.679
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, what do you think the shadow

1037
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:11.039
<v Speaker 2>people have to do with it? Do you think they

1038
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:13.599
<v Speaker 2>are separate entities? Or do you think that that that

1039
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:16.320
<v Speaker 2>a poral gets triggered when people see UFOs and maybe

1040
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:18.400
<v Speaker 2>a poral opens up, or do you think the shadow

1041
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:20.840
<v Speaker 2>beans are the cryptoterrestrials in disguise?

1042
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:25.480
<v Speaker 1>They are? Then definitely that well, some I won't say

1043
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:28.039
<v Speaker 1>all shadow people are crypto terrestrials, but most of them,

1044
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:30.280
<v Speaker 1>and certainly the ones that I've seen, and certainly in

1045
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Christopher Bledzo's case, they are. When they're wearing these boa suits.

1046
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they can be completely invisible. Still casting shadows. Sometimes

1047
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:40.960
<v Speaker 1>they will look like a dark like a dark mass

1048
01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:46.239
<v Speaker 1>moving around. So yeah, shadow people are cloaking ets. That's

1049
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:49.800
<v Speaker 1>what shadow people are, or most most shadow people encounters

1050
01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:53.639
<v Speaker 1>are poltar guist activity, most polar gist activity, in my opinion,

1051
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.679
<v Speaker 1>and I argue in my book and then the book

1052
01:00:56.800 --> 01:01:02.519
<v Speaker 1>coming up. Most poltergeist activity is not deceased human related.

1053
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:08.639
<v Speaker 1>It is c T related or ET related. Now, sometimes

1054
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:12.679
<v Speaker 1>they are trying to That can happen for heaps of

1055
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 1>different reasons, you know. But you know, they might be

1056
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:17.039
<v Speaker 1>trying to scare you because that, like I said, like

1057
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:18.840
<v Speaker 1>in the Skinwalker ranch case, they might not want you

1058
01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:21.519
<v Speaker 1>somewhere and they're trying to expel your family or you

1059
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:25.480
<v Speaker 1>from a certain place. Or sometimes you'll be having interactions

1060
01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:29.800
<v Speaker 1>with them partially remembered interactions. Shadow people polarized activity because

1061
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:32.119
<v Speaker 1>they are interested in you, because you are part of

1062
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:35.800
<v Speaker 1>their breeding program and not consciously know that you are.

1063
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:39.440
<v Speaker 1>That's another reason a house can be haunted, you know.

1064
01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:46.000
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, typical cases of haunting are cryptoterrestrial interactions. Now

1065
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:47.679
<v Speaker 1>that's not to say that there aren't such things as

1066
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:52.320
<v Speaker 1>ghosts that are you know, residue of a deceased people

1067
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:54.480
<v Speaker 1>left over or something like that. I don't know about that,

1068
01:01:55.599 --> 01:02:00.159
<v Speaker 1>but I definitely do know that most hauntings are are

1069
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:03.800
<v Speaker 1>related to these beings. So when you've got a haunted

1070
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:05.719
<v Speaker 1>So if someone says to me and my house is haunted,

1071
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, things keep going missing, things are taken away

1072
01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 1>and then replaced or put back in the wrong place.

1073
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:16.159
<v Speaker 1>I hear voices in the house at night, footsteps at night,

1074
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:19.119
<v Speaker 1>dark shapes standing me in over me at night that

1075
01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:22.480
<v Speaker 1>are then gone, people touching me in the middle of

1076
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:24.639
<v Speaker 1>the night, and things like that. I'm like, Okay, you're

1077
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:28.239
<v Speaker 1>a cryptoterrestrial experiencer and not that. So your house isn't

1078
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:33.559
<v Speaker 1>haunted necessarily, you have some involvement with them, And it's

1079
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 1>the tip of the iceberg. There's lots of experiences you've

1080
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:40.679
<v Speaker 1>had that you wouldn't remember, wow. And lots of people

1081
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:43.440
<v Speaker 1>have experiences with them and never remember anything and don't

1082
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:45.039
<v Speaker 1>even know who don't even think of their house as

1083
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:47.000
<v Speaker 1>being haunted as well. But those people who think that

1084
01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:52.559
<v Speaker 1>their house is haunted usually in my opinion, are cryptoterrestrial

1085
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:57.760
<v Speaker 1>experiences in some fashion or another. But Chris Bledsoe's case, yes,

1086
01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:02.199
<v Speaker 1>so he had these kinds of things going on in

1087
01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:05.360
<v Speaker 1>association with each other. So you know, typical classic Polder geyists,

1088
01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:09.599
<v Speaker 1>shadow people, negative feelings and all that kind of stuff.

1089
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Stuff moved around, and then also you know seeing craft

1090
01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:19.400
<v Speaker 1>or being taken at night by by tall beings. And yeah,

1091
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:22.519
<v Speaker 1>so with Chris Bledsoe, that's he's an excellent case because

1092
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you didn't see both those sides of it happening. And

1093
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:29.199
<v Speaker 1>I think Grant Cameron, Grant Cameron, Canadian famous Canadian research,

1094
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:33.519
<v Speaker 1>would know, I'm sure he, and he knows Chris bledso

1095
01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:35.840
<v Speaker 1>quite well. And I think either the first time he

1096
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.039
<v Speaker 1>ever went to Chris Bledsoe's house or one of the

1097
01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:41.679
<v Speaker 1>original times. Anyway, there was this dramatic experience where they

1098
01:03:41.719 --> 01:03:45.000
<v Speaker 1>were inside together and the dogs, Chris Bledsoe's dogs kept

1099
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:49.880
<v Speaker 1>coming inside and Grant Cameron and Chris brothers would like

1100
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:51.960
<v Speaker 1>wave them away and say what are you doing and

1101
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:54.880
<v Speaker 1>close the front door, and then they'd sit down and

1102
01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:57.039
<v Speaker 1>he'd be talking to Grant again, and then the dogs

1103
01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:00.119
<v Speaker 1>were back inside, and he kept ushering them out and

1104
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.599
<v Speaker 1>they kept coming back inside, right, So then they went

1105
01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:05.760
<v Speaker 1>out in the garden and they were talking in the garden.

1106
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:10.280
<v Speaker 1>One of the dogs ran past and blood was streaming

1107
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:11.320
<v Speaker 1>from its throat.

1108
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:14.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's sliced open like instantaneously, right the way he's said,

1109
01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I've heard this. Yeah, it's amazing, right.

1110
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's spraying all along Grant Cameron's jeans, copious amounts

1111
01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:26.199
<v Speaker 1>of blood. And then they weren't quite sure what they

1112
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:28.880
<v Speaker 1>were going to do, and I think they were trying

1113
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:30.199
<v Speaker 1>to stop the bleeding, and then all of a sudden

1114
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it was stopped and the dog wanders off and it's fine.

1115
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Now what happened, in my opinion.

1116
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:38.639
<v Speaker 2>The Chris bloods. They were saying the Bloodsoe maybe had

1117
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:41.119
<v Speaker 2>some healing properties and maybe the eaties gave them that.

1118
01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I think that there's a lot

1119
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:50.159
<v Speaker 1>to that as well, where Chris Bledsoe, where people in

1120
01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:54.679
<v Speaker 1>the community near him believe now that he has healing properties,

1121
01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and there's a tree in his yard that was the

1122
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:02.440
<v Speaker 1>burst into flames that stage. There's a story behind that

1123
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.480
<v Speaker 1>as well, where mel Gibson. Mel Gibson wanted to make

1124
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:10.079
<v Speaker 1>a movie about Chris's story, and so Chris put the

1125
01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:12.559
<v Speaker 1>question to the to the beans and a tree burst

1126
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:15.760
<v Speaker 1>into flames as well, which is, you know, very biblical

1127
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:20.320
<v Speaker 1>symbolism or whatever. But whether that means yes or hell no,

1128
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:22.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm not quite sure. But anyway, I don't think that

1129
01:05:22.920 --> 01:05:25.320
<v Speaker 1>that movie Mel Gibson, that it never ended up making

1130
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:28.039
<v Speaker 1>that movie. But still the I think the tree itself,

1131
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:30.559
<v Speaker 1>I think I've heard people talking about how Chris has

1132
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:38.400
<v Speaker 1>put people's people that have physical problems, illnesses of different kinds, melodies,

1133
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:41.800
<v Speaker 1>He's put their clothing in the tree and it's helped

1134
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:43.719
<v Speaker 1>them somehow, and all this kind of stuff. So there's

1135
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:48.079
<v Speaker 1>this separate facet of like perhaps healing properties associated with

1136
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Chris bloods as well. And yes, he put his hand

1137
01:05:49.880 --> 01:05:51.880
<v Speaker 1>on the dog, I think, and he was trying to stop,

1138
01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:55.199
<v Speaker 1>trying to staunch the blood, stop the blood flow, and

1139
01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:57.800
<v Speaker 1>it did work, it stopped or and then the dog

1140
01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:01.239
<v Speaker 1>was completely fine. In my opinion, what happened there with

1141
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the Grant Cameron Chris Bledsoe situation was that the mudgeoner

1142
01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:10.679
<v Speaker 1>the tall Whites were there in his yard and the

1143
01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:13.719
<v Speaker 1>kids were playing. And when he's been hypnotized at different stage,

1144
01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:15.440
<v Speaker 1>he said, the children come to my yard and play.

1145
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:19.400
<v Speaker 1>That's something that he's on record being hypnotized as that.

1146
01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Chris Bledsoe is said that you Now they don't like dogs,

1147
01:06:24.360 --> 01:06:27.719
<v Speaker 1>as I said before, the tall whites, but they just

1148
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:32.280
<v Speaker 1>trust them, you know, they're quite flighty around them, disturbed

1149
01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:32.679
<v Speaker 1>by them.

1150
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Dogs can see them too, right, dogs can see them.

1151
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.039
<v Speaker 1>That's also that must be particularly annoying to them, that

1152
01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:43.079
<v Speaker 1>when they're trying to yet hoodwink Homo sapiens. That might

1153
01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:45.679
<v Speaker 1>be easy enough, but dogs have of course. Yeah, you're right,

1154
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:51.079
<v Speaker 1>like preternatural smell and hearing and consense cloaking cryptoterrestrials when

1155
01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:53.679
<v Speaker 1>they prefer not to be sensed, probably, which is another

1156
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:55.719
<v Speaker 1>reason to not like them, as well as them being

1157
01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:58.519
<v Speaker 1>fearful for their children and things like that quite often.

1158
01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:02.639
<v Speaker 1>So I think the dogs were being sent back inside

1159
01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:07.000
<v Speaker 1>by the crypto terrestrials, and Chris Bledsoe kept letting them

1160
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:14.079
<v Speaker 1>out and they care and then and so finally, when

1161
01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:16.880
<v Speaker 1>they all came out in the garden, in my opinion,

1162
01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:19.880
<v Speaker 1>one of the children and they wear these clawed hands,

1163
01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:24.000
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that makes sense, got frightened and actually

1164
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:26.519
<v Speaker 1>slashed the dog's throat, which is what they use them for.

1165
01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:31.280
<v Speaker 1>They slash animal's throats if they're threatened. And and then

1166
01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:33.880
<v Speaker 1>there was this kerfuffle, and then in my opinion. Probably

1167
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Chris Bledzo and Grant Cameron were switched off, were frozen

1168
01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:42.119
<v Speaker 1>while the cryptoterstrials tried to work out how they're going

1169
01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to heal the dog, and they ended up healing the

1170
01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:47.960
<v Speaker 1>dog and then switching the back up. Because the thing

1171
01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:50.519
<v Speaker 1>is with tall Whites, they seem to have it. They

1172
01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:54.519
<v Speaker 1>have an inability. They don't heal quickly themselves. This is

1173
01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:56.679
<v Speaker 1>part of the issues that they have with their own

1174
01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:00.679
<v Speaker 1>genomic structure. They don't they're healing. The bodies take much

1175
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:05.280
<v Speaker 1>longer to heal than ours do. Now, even though they

1176
01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:09.599
<v Speaker 1>have these advanced technologies that can heal us very quickly

1177
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:13.159
<v Speaker 1>and heal animals of the earth very quickly, they themselves

1178
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:17.720
<v Speaker 1>are haunted by these issues where they find it very difficult,

1179
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:20.600
<v Speaker 1>even with their advanced technologies to heal their own bodies

1180
01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:24.119
<v Speaker 1>if they get cuts and particularly prone to infections and

1181
01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:29.439
<v Speaker 1>things like this. But yeah, so, But Chris Bledsoe's case

1182
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:32.680
<v Speaker 1>just a wonderful, just an amazing case. And it's ongoing. Uh.

1183
01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:36.199
<v Speaker 1>He and his family have continue to have experiences that

1184
01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:40.680
<v Speaker 1>his son it's not it's not the sun, Chris.

1185
01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:44.199
<v Speaker 2>His son Chris, was on the Tinfoil Hat podcast. He

1186
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:47.600
<v Speaker 2>was he came, Yeah, he came on Sam Tripley's Tinfoil

1187
01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Hat podcasts, and he was saying that that aliens are real,

1188
01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:53.880
<v Speaker 2>that they're they're in a dimensional and he was saying

1189
01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:57.680
<v Speaker 2>that maybe they don't have the best best outlook for humanity,

1190
01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:00.079
<v Speaker 2>but he thinks maybe there's different ones or something that

1191
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I would have to go back and listen to that.

1192
01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:05.039
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't like take them seriously because I was like, okay,

1193
01:09:05.159 --> 01:09:07.159
<v Speaker 2>like I'm interested in your dad's case. I was like,

1194
01:09:07.239 --> 01:09:09.640
<v Speaker 2>it's cool that you're on Tenfoil Hat because I love

1195
01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:11.880
<v Speaker 2>that show. It's with Sam Trippleway. He's like a comedian,

1196
01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:14.439
<v Speaker 2>but he does like a it's a big conspiracy podcast,

1197
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you know. But I was like, so I'll give him

1198
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:17.399
<v Speaker 2>the respect to being on the show, but it's more

1199
01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:19.520
<v Speaker 2>like his dad that I want to hear about the experience.

1200
01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:21.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know what I mean, Like that's how

1201
01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I felt about that. What about the Avily case? Like

1202
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:28.479
<v Speaker 2>what I've never heard of that? Like I don't want

1203
01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:30.000
<v Speaker 2>to take up too much of your time. I'm sorry,

1204
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I just these caces are so good.

1205
01:09:33.439 --> 01:09:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Aveley case, Yeah, that's one that I haven't

1206
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:38.520
<v Speaker 1>heard about. Much, but I found in an old flying

1207
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:41.479
<v Speaker 1>source of review magazine or a couple spread over a

1208
01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:44.920
<v Speaker 1>couple of issues of f f SR magazine, that old

1209
01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:49.000
<v Speaker 1>flying saurcer Review, And uh yeah, it's and and I

1210
01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:52.359
<v Speaker 1>talk about that in my book because it's incredibly interesting.

1211
01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:55.479
<v Speaker 1>There was a couple that's I think it's pronounced avely,

1212
01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:58.720
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not. I've never heard of pronounce but avery abduction.

1213
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:03.199
<v Speaker 1>There is a fan. The couple, the two adults and

1214
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:06.960
<v Speaker 1>their three children, were driving a car one day, saw

1215
01:10:07.399 --> 01:10:09.439
<v Speaker 1>a star in the sky that seemed to be moving

1216
01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:12.039
<v Speaker 1>and then it was like it was following parallel with them,

1217
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and then there was a misst It was there was

1218
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:17.920
<v Speaker 1>a cloud or a mist, like a wall of mist

1219
01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that they drove into, and then they drove out of

1220
01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:26.760
<v Speaker 1>it in another area, another district, which really freaked them out,

1221
01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:28.880
<v Speaker 1>as you can imagine. And it wasn't until later on

1222
01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:30.760
<v Speaker 1>when they did hypnotic coggression and things like that, that

1223
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:33.239
<v Speaker 1>they found out more about what had happened there where

1224
01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:36.880
<v Speaker 1>they had been on board a craft. Two of the

1225
01:10:36.960 --> 01:10:38.880
<v Speaker 1>children were asleep anyway, so it was just one of

1226
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the children was awake for this, and the two adults,

1227
01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:44.199
<v Speaker 1>the husband and wife taken on board, and they were

1228
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:47.640
<v Speaker 1>separated and they were asked to lie on tables, and

1229
01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:51.359
<v Speaker 1>then they were inspected and they were actually shown a

1230
01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:54.399
<v Speaker 1>lot of things, and particularly the guy, I think he

1231
01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:56.199
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of questions for them, and they were

1232
01:10:56.359 --> 01:11:00.920
<v Speaker 1>very open and talked about which I can't remember off

1233
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:02.439
<v Speaker 1>the top of my head, but a lot of the

1234
01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:09.039
<v Speaker 1>the propulsion systems that they use on their craft and

1235
01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the technologies that they wear where when they're outside, and

1236
01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:15.720
<v Speaker 1>they said they also admitted that their time travels. They said,

1237
01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:19.680
<v Speaker 1>now there were two different races. There was tall, fair

1238
01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:23.000
<v Speaker 1>ones with blue eyes, and then there was a shorter

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<v Speaker 1>There was a short dark There were short dark beings

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<v Speaker 1>with big pointed ears and like fur and big clawed hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Now now they were told that they were from another time.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were shown and like some kind of projection

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<v Speaker 1>or a hologram, and they said, this is the history

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01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:47.880
<v Speaker 1>of the world, our past and your future. Take this

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01:11:48.039 --> 01:11:52.079
<v Speaker 1>message to mankind or something like that. I'm paraphrasing heavily here,

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01:11:52.159 --> 01:11:55.720
<v Speaker 1>But so there was this implication that their future versions

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<v Speaker 1>of ourselves. They said, we live underneath your oceans, we

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01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:01.359
<v Speaker 1>live in your mountains. We have been here for a

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01:12:01.439 --> 01:12:05.399
<v Speaker 1>long time, and we require you to help us. So basically,

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01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the kind of stuff I've been talking about so far

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01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:10.279
<v Speaker 1>in the interview sort of alignes with these kinds of

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01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:16.920
<v Speaker 1>ideas time travelers of a kind requiring us for genetic assistance. Now,

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01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the small the small beans are interesting because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of being that is another future human that is

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01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:29.680
<v Speaker 1>a brown color. Now, these are the beans that are

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<v Speaker 1>in the Virginia incident in Brazil that I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>from the nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Roger and we went over that. No, they went

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01:12:36.199 --> 01:12:37.680
<v Speaker 2>over that. That's an interesting case.

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01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, oily skinned, brown skin, I think, glowing red eyes,

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01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:48.960
<v Speaker 1>three ridges across the tops of their skulls. Those kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of beans the Mudginer have told me are called sebetina,

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<v Speaker 1>which are another kind of future human. But when normally

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<v Speaker 1>when they're outside their craft, they wear helmets that have

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01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:02.119
<v Speaker 1>been point of years and they also have a suit

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01:13:02.279 --> 01:13:06.640
<v Speaker 1>that has like a brown suit, skin tight that has

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01:13:07.159 --> 01:13:09.600
<v Speaker 1>like fluff or fur on it. So it's my opinion

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<v Speaker 1>that the people in the Avely case saw the tall

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<v Speaker 1>whites but also saw seba wearing these suits, not actually

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<v Speaker 1>seeing them as they are and their faces, their nose.

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01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:22.840
<v Speaker 1>They have a bit that comes up there the head.

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<v Speaker 1>The helmets kind of look like a bat's head, like

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01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a vampire bat, with a sort of point of nose

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01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and pointed ears and eyes outside like the beans, the

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01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:34.960
<v Speaker 1>beans in the Kentucky the Kentucky Goblins are them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they submit in their suits, but they're wearing them.

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01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:45.680
<v Speaker 1>They don't actually look look like that. Their heads are

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01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:48.880
<v Speaker 1>they got. Their actual faces are much more like a

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01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:52.359
<v Speaker 1>stereotypical grade kind of look. But they're brown with three ridges,

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01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:55.079
<v Speaker 1>three pronounced ridges on their skull. And then when they're

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01:13:55.359 --> 01:13:58.319
<v Speaker 1>then they wear these helmets. But anyway, yeah, so I

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01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:02.920
<v Speaker 1>think the case were they to race the side by

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01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:05.239
<v Speaker 1>side that are close allies to bet you're not and

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<v Speaker 1>the Magino.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's so interesting. These old cases are so

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01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:13.920
<v Speaker 2>interesting and they tie everything together. They you're making me see, ah,

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01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:16.760
<v Speaker 2>to finalize everything and to finish up here, you're making

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01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:19.800
<v Speaker 2>me see a clear picture that these beings not only

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01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:23.159
<v Speaker 2>really exist, but they might be the culprits behind a

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01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:26.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of different things, and all these different stories tie

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01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:30.560
<v Speaker 2>them together. Bledsoe Hall Jock Valet talked about it. Mac

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01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Tony's It's all drawing a similar picture, right.

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01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. Yeah, different elements of the larger, greater narrative. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I just love it, man, I mean you obviously

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<v Speaker 1>love it yourself, you know, just investigating all this kind

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01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:44.960
<v Speaker 1>of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love that you can bring the evidence that

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<v Speaker 2>the points to the old cases, because I think that's

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01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:53.520
<v Speaker 2>we need that, right, I mean, like to try to

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01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:57.199
<v Speaker 2>identify what this phenomena is. And maybe there's other phenomena

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01:14:57.279 --> 01:14:59.000
<v Speaker 2>going on too, Like we don't know what the grays are,

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01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:01.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'm wondering if there really are reptilians. I hear

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01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:04.520
<v Speaker 2>there are for many different people. Like, what are your

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01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:06.079
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on reptilians real quick?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not popular in this respect, I don't think,

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01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:13.039
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think that those exist now. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, reptilians is a misidentification of some of

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<v Speaker 1>the future human races that have scaly skin and claws.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is how this has sort of begun. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>the tall whites when they're wearing these boas suits, tall lanky,

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01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:35.640
<v Speaker 1>dark beans, glowing red eyes and claws, cloaking and shape

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<v Speaker 1>shifting only in the sense that they can, you know,

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01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:44.119
<v Speaker 1>make you think they look like you know different people, Well,

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01:15:44.279 --> 01:15:47.039
<v Speaker 1>well that's all. That's that's also an element too, because

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01:15:47.079 --> 01:15:52.399
<v Speaker 1>they can project something that conforms to your preconceived ideas

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01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:55.800
<v Speaker 1>about what things look like. You know that they can.

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01:15:56.399 --> 01:16:00.640
<v Speaker 1>They can utilize your own like vocabulary of ideas and

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01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:04.600
<v Speaker 1>your own belief system and paradigm and cosmology, your own

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01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:07.960
<v Speaker 1>religious beliefs, your own beliefs about ghosts and the paranormal,

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01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:10.479
<v Speaker 1>preconceived ideas about what ets are and things like that,

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01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and they can slip that on like a glove and

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01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:16.840
<v Speaker 1>if they think it will assist in them communicating with you,

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01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:20.600
<v Speaker 1>facilitating communication, or manipulating you for some reason they feel

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01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:23.800
<v Speaker 1>that you need to be informed about something or manipulated

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01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:27.319
<v Speaker 1>in some way helped even or whatever helped them, they can.

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<v Speaker 1>They're masters of deceit and deception in that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So Yeah, in my personal opinion, I don't think reptilian

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01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:38.319
<v Speaker 1>ets exist, and I know that there are a lot

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01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:41.000
<v Speaker 1>of people out there that say that they do in

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01:16:42.119 --> 01:16:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a forthright and honestly genuinely saying they've had experiences with

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01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:50.800
<v Speaker 1>these beings and things like that. I doubt it that

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01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:53.760
<v Speaker 1>they are real though, that they have a real objective

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01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:56.880
<v Speaker 1>physical base. In reality, I think that they're misidentifications most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a different race. Basically, it's some race, but it's

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01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:03.319
<v Speaker 2>a different race than what people think than a remnant

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01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:07.439
<v Speaker 2>a reptilian. Like that's pretty interesting. I don't have any

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01:17:07.479 --> 01:17:10.600
<v Speaker 2>other questions. I'm trying to think. I can you tell

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01:17:10.640 --> 01:17:12.600
<v Speaker 2>everybody where they can find the book and if they

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01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:14.479
<v Speaker 2>have questions for you or anything like that, where they

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01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:15.000
<v Speaker 2>can find you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, for sure, thanks Robert. Yeah. My book Children

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01:17:19.039 --> 01:17:23.279
<v Speaker 1>of Ryan Finding the Cryptoterrestrials is published by Flying disc Press,

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01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:27.399
<v Speaker 1>and it's just available available on Amazon, so your paperback, hardcover,

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01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and digital. We're going to have it as an audio

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01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:32.600
<v Speaker 1>book there at one stage, but that'll fall through unfortunately.

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01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:35.000
<v Speaker 1>And I have a YouTube channel which is just my

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01:17:35.159 --> 01:17:37.880
<v Speaker 1>name if people want to check that out, postings on

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01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:41.279
<v Speaker 1>there occasionally, just sort of like a vlog Ryan muskrave Evans,

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01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:44.399
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not on social media anymore. I pulled the

1352
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:47.039
<v Speaker 1>plug on that. People can send me email if they'd like.

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01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:49.520
<v Speaker 1>They just go into the If you go onto my

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01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:51.800
<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel and go into the about section, you'll find

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01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:54.640
<v Speaker 1>my email under business inquiries. If people want to have

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01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:56.399
<v Speaker 1>a yarn about anything, that question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Well, thank you so much for doing this

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01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:02.800
<v Speaker 2>and I always have an interesting time talking to you. Man.

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01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:03.399
<v Speaker 2>This was great.

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you, Robert. Good on you mate.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, i'll talk to you. I'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll send you a link when I upload it too. Okay, thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>all right,
