WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:05.160 What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. Now 2 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:07.240 that the dust is starting to settle a little bit 3 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:11.000 in the wake of the arrest of Brian Koberger, we're 4 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:13.679 starting to learn a little bit more about the man 5 00:00:14.199 --> 00:00:17.800 and how the arrest went down. And we're also hearing 6 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:21.679 that his offices in Pullman one that he shared with 7 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:25.600 a couple of other graduate students, and his apartment have 8 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:29.440 been rated as well, And obviously the police are looking 9 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:32.200 to put together their case right. They want to make 10 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:35.119 sure that this is a slam dunk. One thing that 11 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:39.159 I've heard also is that no murder weapon has been 12 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:42.719 found yet, So I was hoping that at the press 13 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:45.759 conference we'd get a lot more some more context and 14 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:48.960 a little more flavor, if you will, But that didn't come, 15 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:51.960 and they're still obviously playing it close to the vest. 16 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:55.000 Now they have to worry about that conviction. The first 17 00:00:55.000 --> 00:01:00.240 part's over, and everybody thinks that, you know, the first 18 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:04.000 is the hard part, and most certainly is. But building 19 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:06.920 a case and getting a conviction is no walk in 20 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:09.680 the park either, and they're definitely gonna have their hands 21 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:13.000 full because anytime you have a case like this that's 22 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:16.359 as expansive as this, you know that it's going to 23 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:20.200 be an uphill battle. Now. The prosecutors certainly look like 24 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:23.519 they're gonna have the ammunition that's needed to slam this 25 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:27.519 bad boy home. Considering the DNA evidence, and if it 26 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:29.799 ties him to this house and he had never been 27 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:33.159 there before, had no reason to be there, well that 28 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:36.599 would be pretty simple for the prosecutors to make that argument. No, 29 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:40.640 so if he had no business ever being there and 30 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:44.640 then his DNA is found there, obviously we know that 31 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:47.239 the prosecutors are not going to have a hard time 32 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:51.640 selling that. And I'm also seeing out there that he 33 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:56.719 was following them, Madison and Kaylee on Instagram at the 34 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:59.840 very least, so he was certainly following them on so 35 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:04.519 social media and was at least admiring them from afar 36 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:09.039 And as far as officially, that's all we really know 37 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:12.680 right now. So with that said, let's jump into this 38 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:16.120 article from the Daily Mail and let's hear about this raid, 39 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:20.199 and let's get caught up on various other points surrounding 40 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:27.400 the arrest. Headlined exclusive Suspected Idaho quadruple murderer Brian Coberger's 41 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:31.479 office in Washington State is searched by police while the 42 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:36.800 PhD student awaits extradition. So that's the whole process unto itself, 43 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:40.280 right extradition, But I highly doubt it's going to be 44 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:46.560 an issue here. This article was authored by Ruth Stiles. 45 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:50.639 Police have raided the office of suspected University of Idaho 46 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:56.120 killer Briancoberger. Dailymail dot Com can reveal Coburger twenty eight 47 00:02:56.439 --> 00:02:59.039 was arrested in the early hours of Friday morning by 48 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:03.280 a swat team and is currently being held in Monroe County, Pennsylvania, 49 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:07.919 while awaiting extradition to Idaho. And this dude couldn't be 50 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.879 extradited fast enough as far as I'm concerned. Get him 51 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:14.199 to Idaho, get them facing justice, a nice speedy trial 52 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:17.360 end if there's a conviction, No need to mess around 53 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:20.439 with long jail sentences or anything like that. Let's just 54 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:24.000 find a live volcano and throw his ass directly in it. 55 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:27.879 Authorities were seen at his office on the University of 56 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:32.599 Washington Pullman campus, with exclusive dailymail dot Com photos showing 57 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:37.199 cop cars from Washington State University Police parked outside Wilson 58 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:43.879 Short Hall, which houses the criminology department. Photos show officers 59 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:47.080 inside the building at the entrance to Room twelve, where 60 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:51.719 Coburger shared space with two other PhD students. Now I 61 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:55.680 saw all of the information on the website about this 62 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:59.560 office and his PhD when this was all breaking and 63 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:02.199 a made being. The students that shared that office with 64 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:04.560 them talk about the nightmare that they're going to have 65 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:06.520 to deal with in the wake of all of this 66 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:12.960 as well. Jalymail dot com photos show police also searching 67 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:17.040 his home at the Steptoe Village apartment complex in Pullman, Washington. 68 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:20.560 They arrived at seven thirty am, hours after he was 69 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:24.079 arrested on the other side of the country. As soon 70 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.519 as they had this dude hammed up, they were rating 71 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:31.160 these other locations trying to get this evidence because it's 72 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:33.519 all going to prove crucial. Right when you have one 73 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:36.480 of these trials, one of these murder trials, especially one 74 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.199 that's going to be highlighted like this, Every bit of 75 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:42.480 evidence is going to help the prosecution move the ball 76 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.600 forward and get the conviction and get the justice that 77 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:52.160 everybody wants. Here. Pennsylvania native Coburger was studying criminology at 78 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:55.759 the University of Washington's Pullman campus, which is a fifteen 79 00:04:55.800 --> 00:05:00.519 minute drive from Moscow, Idaho, and It's pretty chilly when 80 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:02.759 you look at that Reddit post we were talking about, 81 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:06.439 and to think this guy is sitting here having this 82 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:12.120 criminology background and he's capable of doing what he did. 83 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.680 You just can't tell with people, right, You never know 84 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:22.079 what sort of psychopath is lurking around you. Along with 85 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:26.160 Kailee Gonsalves and Madison Mogan Coberger is also accused of 86 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:30.439 murdering young couple Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin both twenty 87 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:33.079 All four died in their beds at their home in 88 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:36.480 Moscow in the early hours of November thirteenth, in a 89 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:39.560 killing soul brutal. Police described the scene to Delhi mail 90 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:43.120 dot com as the worst we have ever seen. So 91 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:47.120 with this guy being a criminology student of PhD, I 92 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:49.319 wonder if he's going to take the Ted Bundy approach 93 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:53.079 here and try and play games with the investigators. You 94 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:56.920 know how these guys are. They're completely narcissistic. We know 95 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.360 he was active on Reddit. My guess is he was 96 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:04.800 following along with the investigation as it happened. So is 97 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:07.959 he gonna play games with the investigators as they try 98 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:12.399 and solve this murder? Now, obviously it certainly looks like 99 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:14.639 he's the man who did it when you look at 100 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:16.759 all of the evidence and you look at what we know. 101 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:20.959 But of course there's always that caveat. That's the circumstantial 102 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:23.920 evidence that we know of. That's why there's a whole 103 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:27.480 trial process, right. But a dude like this strikes me 104 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:30.079 as the kind of person that's gonna try and play games, 105 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:33.199 try and you know, throw the cops off his scent, 106 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:36.000 maybe try and throw a little bit of chum in 107 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:39.000 the water, talking about somebody else else might have been involved, 108 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:42.680 whatever it might be. This is the type of person 109 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:48.040 that definitely gets down like that. A neighbor told dailymail 110 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:51.839 dot Com exclusively that Coburger had only moved to the 111 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:55.199 Steptoe Village apartment complex at the start of the semester, 112 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:58.079 about two months ago. I didn't really know him, We 113 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.600 just said hi, said the neighbor, who wish not to 114 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:03.519 be named. Sometimes he would make loud noises at night 115 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.800 at like one or two am, like he was cleaning, 116 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:10.480 vacuuming or something. Now, can't really read too much into that. 117 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:13.800 Who knows what his schedule was, or maybe he was 118 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.879 up at that early in the morning. I don't know, 119 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:18.800 but I certainly wouldn't want to live in an apartment 120 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:22.639 with somebody doing vacuuming or calisthenics or whatever the hell 121 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:26.199 this dude was doing at two in the morning. The 122 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:28.839 neighbors said that they can plain to the property management 123 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:31.759 about the noise. He hasn't been here for a while. 124 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:35.240 We haven't heard any noise upstairs for around two three weeks. 125 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:37.959 I just thought he left for the holidays. I had 126 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:40.199 no idea about what happened. I just saw it on 127 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:43.920 the news this morning, like everyone else. They added, and again, 128 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:46.800 look for those of us following this case, it's bizarre 129 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:51.160 to think that other people weren't following it as closely 130 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:54.720 as you are. But that's the truth. There's a lot 131 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:56.959 of things going on in the world, and this doesn't 132 00:07:56.959 --> 00:07:59.839 capture the attention of everybody like it does us. So 133 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.720 some people weren't even hip to what was going on here, 134 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:06.240 like this neighbor. A Rambo style knife was used to 135 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:09.079 carry out the murders, police said, at the six bedroom 136 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:13.079 rental property where three of the victims lived. The murders, 137 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.519 the first in Moscow since twenty fifteen, left a small 138 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:19.120 town of twenty five thousand people, in a state of 139 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:25.000 shock and the police desperately searching for answers. In Albrightsville, Pennsylvania, 140 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:29.959 access to Coburger's family home was blocked Friday by aggressive 141 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:33.639 private security guards who prevented all but residents and law 142 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:38.159 enforcement getting anywhere near the home in a gated community. Yeah, 143 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:40.919 they're lucky they're in that gated community. Remember what happened 144 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:44.799 with Gabby Patito's parents. And I'm not a fan of that. 145 00:08:44.919 --> 00:08:46.960 By the way, I don't think people should mob other 146 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:51.519 people's homes because there's neighbors. But it's going to happen, 147 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:54.000 and people are going to start camping out the whole thing, 148 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:57.039 and people are gonna start asking the questions, well, did 149 00:08:57.039 --> 00:08:59.039 his parents know he went home and he stayed with 150 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:02.039 his parents. Now, I don't know what they know or 151 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:04.440 what they don't know. I'm just telling you how this 152 00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:10.039 is going to end up playing out. This followed the 153 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:13.639 arrest a spokesman for the Pennsylvania State Police at Friday. 154 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:17.440 The Pennsylvania State Police today assisted the City of Moscow, 155 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:21.639 Idaho Police Department, Idaho State Police, and the FBI in 156 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:24.679 the apprehension of a suspect in the homicides of four 157 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:31.159 University of Idaho students that occurred November thirteenth. Brian C. Coberger, 158 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:34.919 twenty eight, was arrested on a Fugitive from Justice warrant 159 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:38.039 early this morning by members of Troop and and the 160 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:42.440 Special Emergency Response Team at a home and chesnut Hill Township, 161 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:47.399 Monroe County, chesnut Hill Township. It's about fifteen miles southwest 162 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:51.600 of Monroe County seat of Stroudsburg, where he appeared in 163 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:55.519 court early Friday. He was also in a suicide vest 164 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:58.399 when he appeared in court. Now, I wouldn't read too 165 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:01.559 much into that, because they do that a lot of 166 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.840 times with people like this, high profile cases. They'll put 167 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:07.480 him in that suicide vest so nothing happens to them. 168 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:13.120 But he definitely was rock and one. Coberger was arraigned 169 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:17.519 before on call Magistrate Judge Michael Mooth and remanded to 170 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:23.080 Monroe County Correctional Facility pending extradition to Idaho. The statement continued. 171 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:27.399 Then at a press conference Friday afternoon, Moscow Police Chief 172 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:31.080 James Fry gave few new details, but said his force 173 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:35.000 had remained laser focused on solving the killings. Hey, look, 174 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.039 now's the time to give yourself a pat on the back. 175 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:39.960 They did a great job here. They brought this dude 176 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:42.480 to justice. At least it looks that way. They made 177 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:45.759 an arrest, and for me, that's great police work. So 178 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.240 on to the next right now, it's not up to 179 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:51.000 the prosecution to make sure that they can bring this home. 180 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:56.399 Coberger has been charged with four counts of first degree 181 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:00.360 murder and one felony burglary. Prosecutor Bill Thompson and told 182 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:05.440 the press conference Idaho is a death penalty state. He 183 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:07.840 is due to be back in court in Pennsylvania on 184 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:11.639 Tuesday next week, and if he is convicted, and if 185 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:14.679 he does get the death penalty, maybe instead of that, 186 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:17.639 he should just be given over to mister Gonsalvez and 187 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:20.639 the families and they can have some old school Western 188 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:25.159 justice and apply that shit to this disgusting animal. Because 189 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:29.080 anyone who's capable of going into somebody's house and brutally 190 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:33.080 murdering them the way this man allegedly did, they don't 191 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:37.039 deserve any empathy from any of us, and society shouldn't 192 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:39.919 have to carry the bill or foot the bill of 193 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:42.879 taking care of somebody like this, especially if they're convicted, 194 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:47.679 and it's ironclad. Most certainly the death penalty should apply. 195 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:53.639 Frey defended the paucity of information release during the investigation, 196 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:57.759 providing more might have alerted the suspect to our progress. 197 00:11:57.799 --> 00:12:00.279 He said, and that's what it really was about. It 198 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:03.159 wasn't about the jury pool. That was an old oakie doke, 199 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:06.200 a little bit of word salad and well played on 200 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:12.320 Chief Fry's part. Coberger's arrest is the culmination of an 201 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:15.200 investigation that has dragged on for more than a month 202 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:19.519 and left the Moscow Police Department facing a barrage of criticism. 203 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:22.919 Cops have also been criticized for describing the murders as 204 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:28.120 targeted while refusing to release any information to explain why. Now. 205 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:30.320 I'm sure we're going to learn all of that as 206 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:34.240 this unfolds, but I'll tell you to be cautious. And 207 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:36.639 this is why, because I doubt it's going to be 208 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.519 a title wave of information that comes at you all 209 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:41.960 at once. It's going to be a bunch of trickles, 210 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:45.120 a bunch of little bits of information, and there's going 211 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:47.480 to be a lot of secrecy still, just like we 212 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:50.879 see down in Delphi with Richard Allen and all of 213 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:54.360 the secrecy we saw around his arrest, So I expect 214 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:57.039 something similar here, and I don't expect us to get 215 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:59.960 all of the information and all of the context at once. 216 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:03.120 It's certainly going to be a process leading up to 217 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:06.279 the trial where obviously we'll get a whole lot more. 218 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:11.039 Sources say that authorities knew who they were looking for 219 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:15.080 and hunted the suspect down to Pennsylvania in the Pocono Mountains, 220 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:18.440 more than twenty four hundred miles from Idaho, so they 221 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:21.440 were on it right. And with the FBI, you have 222 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:24.279 across state lines coming into play, and that's where the 223 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.720 FBI actually excels. When you're talking about finding people across 224 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.679 state lines or hunting down people with a task force, 225 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:36.519 they're really good at that. News Nation reported that Coburger 226 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:39.720 had a quiet, blank sterere when arrested by local cops 227 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:43.960 and the FBI on Friday morning. Coburger is a PhD 228 00:13:44.120 --> 00:13:48.000 college student at Washington State University within the Department of 229 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:52.039 Criminal Justice and Criminology, and did not attend the University 230 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:55.159 of Idaho. It is not clear whether he knew any 231 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:59.360 of the students he allegedly killed. Now I highly doubt it. 232 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:02.120 Early we were saying he was twenty five, but he's 233 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:04.840 actually twenty eight, So why would he be hanging out 234 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:07.639 with any of these kids. I highly doubt that he 235 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:11.480 was in their circle or somebody that knew him. He 236 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:14.519 obviously knew them, so I think the question there is 237 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:17.799 how did he know them? We know that he was 238 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:21.840 following them on Instagram at the very least, But like 239 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:24.200 I said in the very beginning, I can't shake the 240 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:27.000 feeling that this has something to do with where they 241 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:29.159 worked at. You know, they were at the Mad Greek 242 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:31.879 and maybe this guy came in for lunch one day 243 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:34.960 and saw them and took a liking to them. Who knows, 244 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:38.000 But when you're working at a transient spot like that 245 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:40.480 that's right off of the highway, you have no idea 246 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:43.399 who's coming in and out of those doors. So that's 247 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:46.519 certainly a possibility, And I can't wait to hear more 248 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:51.559 context about what motivated all of this and why somebody 249 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:55.279 would be motivated to do something as heinous, as gruesome, 250 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:59.879 as brutal as what occurred here. He graduated from the 251 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.720 Sallas University in Pennsylvania in May twenty twenty two with 252 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:06.960 a Master of Arts and Criminal Justice. As part of 253 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:10.120 his research Coburger posted an appeal for help on social 254 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:14.000 media with his research, which was looking at how emotions 255 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:18.000 and psychological traits influenced decision making when committing a crime. 256 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:20.360 Some chilling shit when you go back and look at 257 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:24.799 it in hindsight. Right. His sister, Melissa, is a mental 258 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:29.360 health nurse in New Jersey specializing in trauma and emotion regulation. 259 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:34.399 Bill Thompson, the Leata County Prosecutor, was also seen outside 260 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:39.360 the apartment alongside investigators gearing up with protective booties before 261 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:46.440 heading into Coburger's apartment in Washington and his sister that 262 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:48.919 they were just talking about here in the article. After 263 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:53.840 the Uvalde shootings, she wrote a poem about those shootings 264 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:57.600 down there in Texas, and it again, pretty chilling when 265 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:00.600 you look at it in hindsight considering what her brother 266 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:04.679 allegedly just did here. And in another episode later on, 267 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:08.759 we're going to talk about that poem. Law enforcement sources 268 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:12.519 told CNN that Coburger's DNA was discovered at the scene 269 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:15.600 of the crime, with officers managing to track down who 270 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:18.120 owned the white Hondai a Lantra seen in the area 271 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:21.759 of the slayings. You would think you're going to criminology school. 272 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:24.600 You'd be smarter than my dumbass, right, what do you 273 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:27.399 do in driving that Hondai a Lantra, homie? But due 274 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:29.480 to that Elantra, they were able to track him down, 275 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:31.759 and boy, oh boy, he's gonna pay for it now, 276 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:36.279 isn't he. Authorities then discovered that he had left the 277 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:40.000 area and traveled to Pennsylvania, where an FBI surveillance team 278 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:42.679 had been tracking the six foot tall man. He was 279 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:46.080 kept under surveillance, with the FBI watching him for four 280 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:50.440 days while investigators from Moscow Police and Idaho State Police 281 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:54.399 worked to get an arrest warrant. Friday sensational arrest is 282 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:57.679 the first major break in the case, with Coburger asking 283 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:01.440 if anyone else was arrested when he was taken into custody. 284 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:05.599 Coburger has no prior arrests according to public records, so 285 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:10.400 it's unclear how officials got hold of his DNA on Friday. 286 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:14.200 A chilling survey created by Coburger asking ex criminals how 287 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:19.000 they felt while committing their crimes re emerged. Well, folks, 288 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:22.200 this one's going to be evolving relatively quickly still, so 289 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:26.240 as new information becomes available, we'll keep on top of it, 290 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:29.119 and we'll keep adding it to the catalog as it 291 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:32.799 becomes available. If you'd like to contact me, you can 292 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:36.839 do that at Bobby Kopuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's 293 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:42.559 bo Bby capu Cci at proton mail dot com. You 294 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:46.519 can also find me on Twitter at bo bby underscore 295 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:50.599 cap use Cci. The link that I discussed can be 296 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:54.920 found in the description box. What's up everyone, and welcome 297 00:17:55.039 --> 00:18:00.400 back to the program. We've heard the reports that Brian 298 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:04.279 Cohberger was attempting to get an internship with the Washington 299 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:08.079 State Police Department. We even saw some emails or heard 300 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:11.440 some emails between him and the chief at the time 301 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:15.000 of the department. But besides that, we really have had 302 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:20.160 no information or any clarity about what went down after 303 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:24.000 that meeting. Was he offered the job, was he turned down? 304 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:27.799 We just don't know yet. But The Independent as they 305 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:30.559 try to dig for some more answers here, they have 306 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:34.599 filed a public records request with the Pullman Police Department 307 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.359 earlier this year, and now they're getting a little bit 308 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:40.799 of traction here. So let's dive into this article from 309 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:45.039 the Independent and let's see what they've whipped up. Headline. 310 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:49.039 Police have no record of whether Brian Coberger was offered 311 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:54.839 internship position months before Idaho murders. This article was authored 312 00:18:55.079 --> 00:19:01.599 by Andrea Blanco. The Washington State Police department that interviewed 313 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:05.599 Brian Kolberger for an internship months before the Idaho murders 314 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:10.680 has no documentation regarding whether he was offered the position. Well, 315 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:12.839 you would think that if he was offered the position, 316 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:15.680 there would be a paper trail of that, right, A 317 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:21.880 job offer some kind of paperwork to sign a congratulatory email. Hey, 318 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:24.200 here's the portal where you go and sign up for 319 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:27.160 your benefits, whatever it might be. So you would think 320 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:31.160 that there'd be a documented paper trail for something like that. No, 321 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:34.799 and that's why I said from the beginning, I doubt 322 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:38.000 that he was offered this job or this internship. I 323 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:41.079 guess we should call it, but who the hell knows, right, 324 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:44.319 that's just my guess, because nothing lines up after that 325 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:46.680 as far as the job was supposed to start in 326 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:50.119 August or whatever, and he obviously didn't have the gig, 327 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:53.599 So unless he was offered it and turned it down, 328 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:56.640 which I would have a hard time believing considering that's 329 00:19:56.680 --> 00:19:59.079 exactly what he was going to school for and what 330 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:01.480 he wanted to do, you would think that he would 331 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:04.039 jump out an opportunity to have a job like that. 332 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:08.480 So the other alternative is after the interview he wasn't 333 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:13.279 considered for the position. The Independent filed a public records 334 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:17.160 request with the Pullman Police Department earlier this year, asking 335 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:22.000 for any documents relating to mister Coberger's application for the 336 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:26.480 research assistantship for public safety position. One of the core 337 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:30.240 goals of the request was to determine whether mister Coberger 338 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:34.240 had been offered the position, as the department had previously 339 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:37.559 declined to answer the question. And I know a lot 340 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:40.319 of folks are not big fans of the legacy media, 341 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:44.440 but if we had a functioning operational forth the state, 342 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:46.799 this would be the kind of thing they're doing all 343 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:50.160 the time, trying to hold those in power to account. 344 00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:52.400 That's what the fort the state is supposed to do. 345 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:55.680 They aren't supposed to get their marching orders from the 346 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:59.319 state and then just go and repeat whatever they're told. 347 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:02.799 So I'm always a big fan of escalating it. If 348 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:06.880 you're a reporter or someone doing research and filing a 349 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:11.920 public records request or a Freedom of Information Act request whatever, 350 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:16.200 because remember they work for us, and while a certain 351 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:20.880 level of operational security, if you will, is needed, especially 352 00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:23.960 when it comes to having trials like this, there needs 353 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:27.400 to be transparency and it can't just be an absolute 354 00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:30.559 stone wall because if that happens, well, look what happened 355 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:34.480 with those UFOs that were shot down. Obviously not aliens, right, 356 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:38.920 But when the government or the authorities don't come out 357 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:42.839 and fill the vacuum and give people good quality information, 358 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:45.880 that leads to the fertile breeding ground for all of 359 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:49.839 the morons, the grifters, and the bullshit artists. So that's 360 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:51.880 one of the main reasons why I'm such a big 361 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:57.519 fan of transparency. A public records officer responded to the 362 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:01.480 request with ten documents on Friday, but with a major 363 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:06.319 caveat The Pullman Police Department does not have any documentation 364 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:09.960 regarding whether or not mister Coberger was chosen for the 365 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:14.200 internship position. The officer stated in an email, seems like 366 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:17.680 something that would be pretty easily rectified here, right, did 367 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:20.759 he ever work in the department as an intern or not? 368 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:25.160 Stop playing stupid and stop acting like you don't know 369 00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:28.240 and then what they'll do sometimes meaning the police or 370 00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:32.039 the FBI or authorities in general. They'll give you some 371 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:35.400 of the documentation, but not all of it. You should 372 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:37.759 see the battle that's going on to try and get 373 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:41.759 information about Jeffrey Epstein's death. Still to this day, how 374 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.920 many different requests have been denied. And when they want 375 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:49.119 to keep something secret, that's what they'll do. They'll say, oh, look, 376 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:52.279 this is an ongoing investigation and we can't give you 377 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:56.960 that information because it's sensitive to the integrity of our investigation. 378 00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:02.160 Mister Coberger, twenty eight, is facing four murder charges in 379 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:06.720 the brutal stabbings of Madison Mogan, Kaylee Gonsalves, Xana Kernodle, 380 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:09.960 and Ethan Chapin in an off cap Is rental home 381 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:13.839 in Moscow, Idaho, on November thirteenth. He was arrested in 382 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:18.240 Pennsylvania on December thirtieth, and is now being held behind 383 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:22.759 bars in Idaho ahead of his June preliminary hearing. An 384 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:26.079 Affid David for mister Coberger's arrest revealed that he had 385 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:29.960 applied for an internship with the Pullman Police Department, which 386 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.559 has played a significant role in investigating the murder case. 387 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:36.079 And when you take a step back from all of this. 388 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.680 It's just so wild, all of the twists and turns, 389 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:42.319 the fact that this dude was a criminology student, and 390 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:45.440 the fact that he was trying to apply to work 391 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:48.599 at this police department. And it was this police department 392 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:53.039 who recognized Brian Kohberger after spotting the Hondai a Lantra 393 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:56.480 and running his license. So what could have been his 394 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:02.440 colleagues ended up being his pursuers. Last month, emails between 395 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:06.599 mister Coburger and then Chief of Pullman Police Department, Gary Jenkins, 396 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:10.680 showed a brief exchange about the assistantship position for which 397 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:15.119 mister Coberger had applied last April. The documents turned over 398 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:19.279 to The Independent last week show mister Coberger was one 399 00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:24.279 out of four applicants for the job. Applicants were informed 400 00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:27.759 on August twenty second whether they were selected for the role, 401 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:31.519