Speaker 1: It's night time with Dan Ray. I'm Boston Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, So here's an interesting, I think, a very
Speaker 2: interesting issue and question which has come up. But apparently
Speaker 2: there is a push to legalize or decriminalize at least
Speaker 2: jaywalking in Massachusetts. Now you don't hear much about jaywalking,
Speaker 2: but the law is still on the books and the
Speaker 2: fine is only a dollar, which struck me as kind
Speaker 2: of interesting. I mean, how do they collect the fine.
Speaker 2: It's look, it may be on the books, but it
Speaker 2: is not observed. I see people all the time jaywalking.
Speaker 2: I jwalk. I probably do it less now than I
Speaker 2: did thirty years ago, when I knew I could basically
Speaker 2: sprint through any intersection without a care of the world,
Speaker 2: because I was pretty quick. As you get older, you
Speaker 2: lose a little bit of that quickness. Let me put
Speaker 2: it like that. I think anyone on the wrong side
Speaker 2: of fifty will understand what I'm talking about. When you're
Speaker 2: twenty or twenty five, across that street in about four seconds,
Speaker 2: that's easy. But when you're fifty or so, it may
Speaker 2: take a little longer, but beyond that it takes substantially longer.
Speaker 2: The bottom line is that we all jaywalk at the
Speaker 2: same time, my feeling is the fact that it is
Speaker 2: still illegal probably is a good thing, because I don't want.
Speaker 2: You know, first of all, if I jwalk, I'm assuming
Speaker 2: the consequences of my actions. If I'm really dumb and
Speaker 2: I don't look both ways and I don't follow the
Speaker 2: crosswalk and all of that, and I get hit and
Speaker 2: hurt or worse, don't shed any tears because that will
Speaker 2: have been my stupidity which put me in that situation.
Speaker 2: And if the fact that a statue is still in
Speaker 2: the books doesn't make me think, well, maybe I can
Speaker 2: wait for the light because it's really not worth it,
Speaker 2: and then I'm a dummy, and I'm not a dummy. However,
Speaker 2: I kind of like it on the books because I
Speaker 2: swear to God, I don't want you as a hood
Speaker 2: ornament on my car. Okay, I mean you may be
Speaker 2: a great person. You probably are a great person. I'd
Speaker 2: love you to call my show any night. We can
Speaker 2: have a conversation, we can have a discussion about any topic.
Speaker 2: But the one thing I do not want to meet
Speaker 2: you at the intersection of the hood of my car
Speaker 2: and you because I'm assuming people won't jaywalk. But I'm
Speaker 2: assuming that there will be someone in that group of
Speaker 2: pedestrians who might decide to dart out against the traffic light.
Speaker 2: So I am a very mixed mind here, I guess.
Speaker 2: I guess actually I'm kind of in favor when I
Speaker 2: think about what I just said of keeping this law
Speaker 2: in the books. Probably I would bet you that there's
Speaker 2: no city or town in Massachusetts which has collected more
Speaker 2: than five bucks from jaywalkers. If the finds a panel
Speaker 2: is a park, that's number one. Number two. Uh, you
Speaker 2: have no idea how many people's lives might have been
Speaker 2: saved because they said, you know, it would be just
Speaker 2: my luck if I jump out here, some police officers
Speaker 2: to grab me. And I would suspect most people don't
Speaker 2: know that the fine for jaywalking is a dollar. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll give the police officer five dollars. Of course you
Speaker 2: can't do that, but just to be rid of it.
Speaker 2: So that's the question. There is apparently some groups in
Speaker 2: Massachusetts there are who are trying to eliminate any penalty
Speaker 2: or fine for jaywalking. Now, my suspicion is a lot
Speaker 2: of those groups want to in effect take back the
Speaker 2: streets and take back the crosswalks, And I understand that,
Speaker 2: just as the bicyclists have taken back a lot of
Speaker 2: the asphalt with their bike lanes. So the question is
Speaker 2: it's illegal in Massachusetts to jaywalk. The fine for jaywalking is,
Speaker 2: believe it or not, a dollar. It's almost as if
Speaker 2: you should take it off the books because of that.
Speaker 2: That sounds like something from you know, the sixteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: They find they find people a pence or whatever was
Speaker 2: the coin of the realm back then, A dollar, nothing
Speaker 2: when you think about it. So I just want to
Speaker 2: throw it out there real quickly and let's get some
Speaker 2: conversation going on it. If you've ever jaywalked and regretted it,
Speaker 2: meaning you jaywalked and you came close to paying a
Speaker 2: much different penalty than a dollar, I'd love to hear
Speaker 2: from you if you have ever had a close encounter
Speaker 2: with a jaywalker. And again, if you have a close
Speaker 2: encounter with a jaywalker, who do you think is going
Speaker 2: to prevail you, the person behind the two thousand pound
Speaker 2: vehicle or the jywalker. You know the answer. I don't
Speaker 2: even have to tell you on that. One six, one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten
Speaker 2: thirty Take it off the books. You say, well, it's
Speaker 2: a victory for freedom, But I think I think that
Speaker 2: that might be just the incentive that some as Tom Minino,
Speaker 2: God bless him, would say, some knucklehead would end up
Speaker 2: as a hood ornament on on on my car or
Speaker 2: your cars your car. And by the way, given a
Speaker 2: choice between someone ending up as a hood ornament on
Speaker 2: my car or your car, I nominate your car. I
Speaker 2: want nothing to do with that. Six one seven, two
Speaker 2: four thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty
Speaker 2: will get it going. On the other side of the
Speaker 2: break back on night Side after this.
Speaker 1: Now bent to Dan Way live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News.
Speaker 2: Radio, Jaywalkers, Let's see what people think. I think there's
Speaker 2: a purpose of it it being on the books. To
Speaker 2: be honest with you, Tom and West Virginia. Tom next
Speaker 2: on nights Side, Agree or disagree, buddy.
Speaker 3: No, I disagree. Here's the point. Number one. We have
Speaker 3: crosswalks for a reason. And the people that are pushing this,
Speaker 3: no doubt are probably leftists that you know, in the future,
Speaker 3: because Donald Trump is now president, the country is starting
Speaker 3: this wing right. These are the same jerks that are
Speaker 3: gonna want to block intersections. They're going to go you know,
Speaker 3: we were to save the wheels, all right. You know.
Speaker 3: They almost remind me like a South Park cartoon that
Speaker 3: you know, at some point just get.
Speaker 2: You know, we live in that climate.
Speaker 4: You change and you can't.
Speaker 3: Redreage your gasoline, pick up drug or.
Speaker 2: Tom. I'm trying to figure out where you are in
Speaker 2: the issue. In other words, right now, it's it's a
Speaker 2: stat it's a law in massage use. It's the finest,
Speaker 2: the finest dollar. Keep it, yeah, I'm with you. Keep
Speaker 2: it yeah, because there's a lot of people out.
Speaker 3: You know, but but they're they want to change it
Speaker 3: because at some point there's going to be organized groups
Speaker 3: of Marxist led people that are trying to weaken any
Speaker 3: law whatsoever to block traffic because we have inter message Joe,
Speaker 3: you know, these are the losers of our society that
Speaker 3: you know, you can't organize a protest on Boston Common
Speaker 3: and may bring.
Speaker 2: Realistically realistically, Uh, when they have a protest and they
Speaker 2: link their arms, so they put their arms in in
Speaker 2: thats of cement. They're not claiming they're jaywalking, they're there.
Speaker 2: I don't like those people at all. You know that,
Speaker 2: but having it as on the books. Because there are
Speaker 2: some people who are rules followers. I'm not one of them, necessarily,
Speaker 2: because I'd admit I jaywalk, but I'm not stupid. I
Speaker 2: don't jaywalk on Route one twenty eight or four ninety five.
Speaker 2: If I'm on a street and there's nothing coming in
Speaker 2: each direction, I double check a couple of times that
Speaker 2: I can scoot across. Okay, technically ijwalk, but it's an
Speaker 2: intelligent form of jaywalking as opposed to just jaywalking and
Speaker 2: getting hit by a car.
Speaker 3: Dan Dan, I've worked in thirteen states in one US territory, okay,
Speaker 3: and the one thing that you find about Northeastern cities
Speaker 3: is people jaywalk all the time because I have to
Speaker 3: get from point A to point B. Okay, But you
Speaker 3: use common sense. In other words, if you're on Commonwealth
Speaker 3: Avenue and the light is green and you pause in
Speaker 3: between cars, I understand that. And I don't know anybody
Speaker 3: who has ever been cited. Because I used to live
Speaker 3: in Beacon Hill. Starting in nineteen seventy eight, I met
Speaker 3: and I did the same thing. I'm not at across
Speaker 3: walk all right, but you know, if I'm on Cambridge Street,
Speaker 3: and Beacon Hill, and I need to get to the
Speaker 3: donut shop across the street. I'm gonna go on a diagonal.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go down and wait, you know, for whatever.
Speaker 3: But I never got a citation for that. But I
Speaker 3: know where this is going, all right, And it's all
Speaker 3: about legalities. And you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I tell you where I think.
Speaker 3: It's going to start.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you where I think this is going. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think it's going because I think some of the
Speaker 2: groups that I forget the name of the group, but
Speaker 2: it's like walk Boston or something like that. And I
Speaker 2: think there's going to be This is part of the
Speaker 2: we want to take the streets back. Uh. And we
Speaker 2: don't want any or anything that prevents us from doing
Speaker 2: what we want.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And and and the enemy of the people in those
Speaker 2: those gas powered automobiles this is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well those those are probably the same people that
Speaker 3: a few years ago that were slashing tires and Beacon
Speaker 3: Hill to stop global warming. I'm sick of these weenies,
Speaker 3: I really am. And you know something, uh And I
Speaker 3: always bring this up the progressive talk show host and well,
Speaker 3: we've got to change are the way we drive with
Speaker 3: electric vehicles. Really, you live on Joystreet and Beacon Ill.
Speaker 3: How are you going to charge your electric vehicle? You
Speaker 3: live on the third floor in a brownstone. Are you
Speaker 3: going to run a three hundred foot extension cord out
Speaker 3: to your vehicle on the streets of Joystreet and Beacon Hill? Really?
Speaker 2: You know? So?
Speaker 3: But here's the point. And when I always bring up China,
Speaker 3: they go, well, they'll eventually get to it in fifty years.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: No, if you really believe in man make climate change
Speaker 3: and that we've all got to stop driving gas powered vehicles,
Speaker 3: the whole world at the same point in time has
Speaker 3: to do the same thing. The United States of America
Speaker 3: represents five percent of the world's population. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 3: all right, five percent of the world's population that drives
Speaker 3: gas power vehicles is not going to change climate change.
Speaker 3: And at some point somebody News needs to do a
Speaker 3: little bit of critical thinking instead of some weenie wearing
Speaker 3: a man bun that you know is a barista at
Speaker 3: Starbucks who gets two minutes on Channel five of like,
Speaker 3: we've good to.
Speaker 6: Save the planet.
Speaker 3: Man, We've good save more years to save the world.
Speaker 2: Oh you got it, Tom, you got it all in
Speaker 2: you got it all in. I hope you feel better.
Speaker 3: I hope I offended. So I hope I hope in Massachusetts, no,
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: I just want you to know you're the second call
Speaker 2: it from West Virginia. Tonight. We're building a base in
Speaker 2: West Virginia. Okay. A guy in the first hour. It's
Speaker 2: Bobby from West Virginia, and he was telling me how
Speaker 2: he used to he hunts wild boar in Georgia. Sounds
Speaker 2: like you're sort of guy. Oh, I got to go well.
Speaker 3: And by the way, Dan, it's dear season down here.
Speaker 3: So far, I got two bucks from the freezer. Tomorrow
Speaker 3: is dough season. I'll get a third. That's my red meat.
Speaker 3: I don't eat beef anymore. Deer are a free range animal.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And for those of you when need him that just
Speaker 3: learned it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Tom, Tom, I got it. I got out of callers,
Speaker 2: get them into Thanks, good night, bye bye. Tom feels
Speaker 2: he's a passionate college Georgian bridge. Want to joge you
Speaker 2: in next on Nightsager right ahead?
Speaker 4: Hey, how you doing Dan?
Speaker 2: Great?
Speaker 7: I want them to keep it on the books, but
Speaker 7: I'd like to see the fine up to to at
Speaker 7: least one hundred bucks I got I got nailed in
Speaker 7: Luxembourg and two hundred bucks. And you almost you and
Speaker 7: you don't know it, but you almost got nailed in
Speaker 7: Germany when you went there. I think it was your
Speaker 7: last day. You were talking about it and your bus
Speaker 7: was leaving. You ran across the street. You're lucky you
Speaker 7: didn't get caught, because the Germans enforces too.
Speaker 2: So when you get nailed in Luxembourg, did you have
Speaker 2: to write a check or give him some cash on
Speaker 2: the spot. It wasn't. I gave you a court date
Speaker 2: three weeks from now.
Speaker 7: No, I was with a gale from Luxembourg, and you
Speaker 7: know they speak English too, But no, we paid cash
Speaker 7: right on the spot. We got it. You know, we
Speaker 7: got a legitimate ticket. But Europe brilliant forces to jaywalkin laws,
Speaker 7: and I wish we were too, and I wish we would,
Speaker 7: you know, have a hefty fine, because.
Speaker 2: I mean dollar means nothing. Here you go, officer. I'm
Speaker 2: very happy. And I don't think anyone that I can
Speaker 2: in America or within the sound of our voice, has
Speaker 2: been stopped for jaywalking or worse yet, in any way,
Speaker 2: shape or form penalized. But so you had to how
Speaker 2: did you come up with the hundred You had a
Speaker 2: hundred in your pocket?
Speaker 7: No, I've had to pain in euros and we had
Speaker 7: a lot of euros on it on us. But you know,
Speaker 7: I shake it down.
Speaker 2: Boy, that sounds like police work. In Luxembourg. You could
Speaker 2: almost shake shake out a town tourists down. Hey, come here,
Speaker 2: you help me hundred.
Speaker 7: Bucks Dan That that was the year two thousand when
Speaker 7: when I was a truck driver in Germany from sixty
Speaker 7: three to sixty six. Yeah, they were real. They were
Speaker 7: enforcing the laws in Germany. It's u and the last
Speaker 7: thing I wanted to do was run somebody over and
Speaker 7: my deuce in a half. So, I mean, Europe's got
Speaker 7: it together. They lost enough people in the World War
Speaker 7: Two they don't want to lose anymore.
Speaker 2: But no, I understand that. So when you were there,
Speaker 2: if you were driving a deuce and a half, you
Speaker 2: were working for the US government.
Speaker 7: That's right. But but I worrying all in olive drab uniform, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: But I know up a two one hundred.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 7: I lived in brockd Up for nine years and I
Speaker 7: noticed on my main street, I even forget the name
Speaker 7: of it. Before I got to my house, there was
Speaker 7: a crosswalk every twenty feet, but they didn't use them.
Speaker 7: I almost wiped out a few people. And I don't
Speaker 7: want I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: That's the reason why I think the law should stay
Speaker 2: in the books. And whether or not, I'm not quite
Speaker 2: with you. Increasing the fine, maybe increasing the twenty five
Speaker 2: bucks or something, make it something that people yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but certainly more than a dollar. But yeah, but I
Speaker 2: don't The last thing I want is to have, you know,
Speaker 2: my picture in the paper saying someone ends up on
Speaker 2: the hood of Dan Ray's car. I don't want that
Speaker 2: at all, you know, even though today, once again, you know,
Speaker 2: I stopped at a couple of crosswalks to allow people
Speaker 2: to go across, and they it's you know, college students.
Speaker 2: They never look, they never say, they give you a
Speaker 2: nod of a wave or a nod of the head
Speaker 2: or thank you. It's like you there. They have priorities,
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what the circumstances are. And if you're kind
Speaker 2: enough to stop, which I always do, don't expect to
Speaker 2: have anyone ever say thank you. When I go across
Speaker 2: the street and a crosswalk and someone stops at me,
Speaker 2: I go out of my way, thank you very much.
Speaker 7: And oh yeah, I give them my heads up myself.
Speaker 7: And this is not part of your show, is not
Speaker 7: part of you. I never blocked the box.
Speaker 3: Never.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a different I would now those should be
Speaker 2: twe hundred dollar fines those.
Speaker 7: Yes, there you go.
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks, George's always.
Speaker 7: Are You're welcome? All right, buddy, Thanks.
Speaker 2: You six four ten thirty. That's the only lines that
Speaker 2: are open right now. I got two of them. Therefore
Speaker 2: you six months seven two five four to ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Back with Laurie uh and Connie. Laurie from Idaho, Connie
Speaker 2: from Medford and I got room for you at six
Speaker 2: months seven two five four ten thirty. Should they basically
Speaker 2: take the jaywalking law off the books in Massachusetts or
Speaker 2: leave it? I think you leave it just so that
Speaker 2: some people might at least think about it if they're
Speaker 2: going to jump out into traffic. That's my thought. Love
Speaker 2: to know what you think. Back on Nightside after.
Speaker 1: This Night Side Thought with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about jaywalking. Let's see what Laurie in
Speaker 2: Idaho says. I don't think they have rules against Jaywalkee
Speaker 2: and Idaho. I suspect do they, Laurie.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I haven't checked.
Speaker 8: No, I don't think so. But I do know when
Speaker 8: I was, you know, back in New England Boston Arey,
Speaker 8: I had, you know, two thoughts on the law. If
Speaker 8: I wanted jay walk, I wish it weren't there, and
Speaker 8: if someone idiot was walking in front of me, I'm
Speaker 8: glad it's there. So which is probably what everybody else.
Speaker 3: Has been saying.
Speaker 8: And you know, and her good reason. But your last
Speaker 8: collar brought up a very interesting point. My parents were
Speaker 8: in Germany from fifty to fifty six or fifty seven. Well,
Speaker 8: my dad was doing his army service, and they say,
Speaker 8: a little bit longer becauthing liked it. And so even
Speaker 8: like my mom would come back to visit me in Mastitute, Massachusetts,
Speaker 8: why is down there, said a little bit. And if
Speaker 8: I wanted to same thing, go all the way up
Speaker 8: half a block, to go across and go back down
Speaker 8: half a block that's just right across the street, and
Speaker 8: there's no traffic, she would have a fit. And now
Speaker 8: I understand why because they lived in Germany for seven
Speaker 8: years in the fifties.
Speaker 2: But so so in Germany. Your parents were very respectful
Speaker 2: of the law because, as George said, you get grabbed
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it was it was the rule. And my
Speaker 8: dad was obviously in the army there, and so they
Speaker 8: obeyed if they lived off off base.
Speaker 2: But she she's always very good for the Germans fault.
Speaker 2: They're rules followers, you know, as a society.
Speaker 8: Well, and then my mother respected that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 3: It was like all the loss.
Speaker 8: But that explains why I never knew why she was.
Speaker 8: She's freaked out so badly every time I said, let's
Speaker 8: just run across the streets here, we can do this.
Speaker 8: Now we're j jay walking.
Speaker 4: Who's looking?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've jay walked in different places, and I think
Speaker 2: you're a little more cognizant of it when you're in
Speaker 2: what did they say when in Rome, do as the.
Speaker 3: Romans do, right, exactly?
Speaker 8: And she was young, I mean, you know, she was twenty. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but but I was always very very you know, cattal era.
Speaker 8: But as sometimes no traffic was around, I would never
Speaker 8: dive in front of traffic. But I did get really
Speaker 8: pissed off and picked off when you know, these kids
Speaker 8: with the headphones on and just walk across the street
Speaker 8: and not care.
Speaker 3: We need we need a hold.
Speaker 2: That's a whole that's a whole nother story, as as
Speaker 2: I said, right, but.
Speaker 8: We need the law books to protect us from that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, every day I drive through a couple of
Speaker 2: student areas and it just looks to me like the
Speaker 2: student's attitude is, hey, guess what you know. I'm here,
Speaker 2: I paid my tuition. I got to be able to
Speaker 2: do whatever I want to do. And that bothers me
Speaker 2: a bit. But I just think my feeling is leave
Speaker 2: it in the books, because even if one person thought
Speaker 2: about it and didn't put themselves in a position where
Speaker 2: they're going to be run over by two thousand pounds
Speaker 2: of steel and rubber, that's a good thing. That's that's
Speaker 2: a good thing. And maybe, as George said, let's let's
Speaker 2: make it a little more, a little bit more of
Speaker 2: a bite that it's one police office going to enforce
Speaker 2: one dollar fine. Most police officers going to laugh at that,
Speaker 2: say what, I'm wasting my time?
Speaker 8: Well so, but then if you if you can get
Speaker 8: away with that, you know, jay walking across the street,
Speaker 8: you know a couple of lanes and nobody's there. If
Speaker 8: the police officer could go and collect the buck, they're
Speaker 8: not going to get you for it, But if it's higher,
Speaker 8: they're going to notice it. So I don't know. It's
Speaker 8: kind of a double resort.
Speaker 2: It definitely is, and you've got to be got to
Speaker 2: be always careful of who's around in the circumstances. Laurie
Speaker 2: loved them. Loved a couple of text you sent to
Speaker 2: me lately. I'm glad we're in the same wavelength from
Speaker 2: a humor point view. Thanks Mustard, Doctor Soon six thirty,
Speaker 2: triple eight nine, ten thirty or six one seven nine.
Speaker 2: Got a bunch of lines open here, so fill them up.
Speaker 2: Jaywalking is it something that bothers you? There's a there's
Speaker 2: an effort right now by group that is in that
Speaker 2: is and we attempted to have the group join us tonight,
Speaker 2: but I don't think producer Marita was able to reach them. Uh.
Speaker 2: They are organized and they want to get rid of jaywalking.
Speaker 2: They want to make it so that jaywalking no well,
Speaker 2: that the penalty against jaywalking no longerings exists. Connie is
Speaker 2: in me. Hi, Connie, welcome, Hi Dan, how are you.
Speaker 2: I'll do great? Thanks for calling it well.
Speaker 6: You know, I have a story. I think I was
Speaker 6: about twenty years old and that happened. I was coming
Speaker 6: home from a friend's house and I was going to
Speaker 6: cross you know, I was in Midford Square like, and
Speaker 6: I was going to cross the street. There was nothing around,
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, when I got to like
Speaker 6: the middle of the of the street, well, there was
Speaker 6: a car on top of me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, you mean you were hit by a car.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was hit by a card. Where as a
Speaker 6: family in this car that that. Evidently they didn't see me,
Speaker 6: and by the time they did, I was already on
Speaker 6: the ground, so they stopped. Okay. Then before you know it,
Speaker 6: the police were there, the ambulance and they took me
Speaker 6: to the hospital here in Medford, Lawrence Morrow, and I
Speaker 6: had a baseball on my leg and I had to
Speaker 6: cut under my chin. My parents didn't even know that
Speaker 6: at the time until they called him, you know, if
Speaker 6: the hospital called them. But anyways, I didn't realize that
Speaker 6: was going to happen, because, like I said, I usually
Speaker 6: walked you look before I crossed the street. But evidently
Speaker 6: it happened to me, and I said, oh my god,
Speaker 6: I'm in trouble.
Speaker 2: Now, So I asked you this, have you ever jaywalked again?
Speaker 6: I mean since that. No, But well now I'm now
Speaker 6: I'm old. Now I'm maybe six years old. I'm not
Speaker 6: going to jaywalk. I look at all of the traffic
Speaker 6: lights now too.
Speaker 2: So no, but I went with you when you were younger.
Speaker 2: When you were you said a teenager.
Speaker 6: I think no, I think I was about twenty. I
Speaker 6: think at the time.
Speaker 2: That's okay, Yeah, you're quite young at twenty.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Now i'm eye six years old. Now I'm eye six,
Speaker 6: and I don't think that I was going to do that.
Speaker 6: I learned my lesson after that happened. And I don't
Speaker 6: think there was any any laws in the book for
Speaker 6: jaywalking then. Anyway, when I was that age that.
Speaker 2: That I know of the law of survival, it was okay.
Speaker 6: So I mean if there is one now, then yeah,
Speaker 6: they should do something about it, because a lot of
Speaker 6: people they don't look, they don't look at at at
Speaker 6: when they cross, especially young people. I noticed they have
Speaker 6: their their cell phones glued to their ears and they're
Speaker 6: not paying attention to the traffic, you know, and they're.
Speaker 2: Walking as someone who you didn't have a cell phone
Speaker 2: back in those.
Speaker 6: Days, right, we didn't. But now that they have them,
Speaker 6: that's what they do. They're not looking at the traffic.
Speaker 6: And this makes me very nervous because I drive, but
Speaker 6: like I say, usually I stop all the time when
Speaker 6: I see somebody that's walking on the street, or even
Speaker 6: when they're going to Wegmans and Method, I usually stop
Speaker 6: because I know that's a very busy place, so I stop.
Speaker 6: But when I do, they have those phones, they glued
Speaker 6: to the end. They don't even pay attention because they're
Speaker 6: either texting or they're talking on the phone. And that
Speaker 6: makes me nervous.
Speaker 2: It makes me nervous too. Thank you for call, Thanks
Speaker 2: so much. Be careful out there.
Speaker 6: Okay, Oh I will thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2: Dan, thanks for calling in. Have a good night, have
Speaker 2: a nice celebrate Christmas. I assume oh you.
Speaker 6: Too, Yes you too Christmas because I listen to you
Speaker 6: all the time. I listen to it night all the time.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, don't you ever. Okay, talk
Speaker 2: to you soon. Have a great night.
Speaker 6: Okay, you too.
Speaker 2: Let me get Gary for Muburn in here. Gary will
Speaker 2: always have sort of a an interesting take. Gary, your
Speaker 2: take on the jaywalking laws in Massachusetts. They're there, they're
Speaker 2: not particularly enforced. Is it time to get rid of them?
Speaker 4: I'm totally confused by the subject come out of but
Speaker 4: as I get older, sixty one years of age, I
Speaker 4: definitely do not jaywalk. When you're younger, you do it.
Speaker 4: And the lady at eighty six years of age, God
Speaker 4: bless you for calling at the Dan show. You sounded
Speaker 4: very lively and talking about young people. The cops should
Speaker 4: be getting off their butts and writing them out a
Speaker 4: checkout for twenty five dollars right away by you.
Speaker 2: Know, well, where what what the police? First of all,
Speaker 2: the police, Uh, the fine for jaywalking in Massachusetts is
Speaker 2: a dollar. A dollar.
Speaker 3: That's terrible, So I got bump it up first.
Speaker 2: The first question that we're trying to just to get
Speaker 2: your confusion straighten out here, the question is is it
Speaker 2: worth it to have it on the books if all
Speaker 2: the fine is a dollar? Because what police offers waste
Speaker 2: his time unless somebody's doing it so so obviously, or
Speaker 2: maybe even in the middle of the street taunting people.
Speaker 2: Do you j I'll bet you do. I'll bet you do.
Speaker 3: Gary, what's that?
Speaker 2: Stay with the program, Gary? Do you j walk?
Speaker 4: At sixty one years later, I stopped doing that type
Speaker 4: of time I get as I get older, I go
Speaker 4: more by the law and so far because I see
Speaker 4: the younger people and so forth, and I want to
Speaker 4: try to be a little bit more of an example.
Speaker 4: But one time before I let you go, because I'm
Speaker 4: working right now, Dan, I want you to know Gary
Speaker 4: Tangway filled in for you while you were gone. Okay,
Speaker 4: I don't worry about Yeah, David from San Francisco called
Speaker 4: in last week, and David, I just want you to
Speaker 4: know we all love David. We don't agree with what
Speaker 4: he says, me and you, but we love David. David.
Speaker 4: If you're listening, and Gary Tangway hung up on him
Speaker 4: so disrespectfully when you have an outside call outside Erie, Dan,
Speaker 4: you always treat everybody more special because they're not from
Speaker 4: New England.
Speaker 2: Correct, No, I treat everybody special. But here's the deal.
Speaker 2: I didn't hear Gary the call that Gary had. I
Speaker 2: know Gary a little bit, worked with him in Channel four.
Speaker 2: He's a very decent guy. David could be a very
Speaker 2: frustrating caller.
Speaker 4: Okay, he wasn't frustrating. He was very nice and that
Speaker 4: station and Gary sang way, they owe him an apology.
Speaker 9: David, we love you.
Speaker 3: Keep calling it to be a favorite.
Speaker 2: Call Gary next week and explain it to him. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll appreciate hearing from you. Appreciate it. Thanks,
Speaker 2: thanks so much. Thanks gone. Gary has a tendency. Gary
Speaker 2: from Woburn has a tendency to kind of leave the
Speaker 2: conversation while it's half over. But that's okay, So I
Speaker 2: want to wrap it up on the other side, and
Speaker 2: we're going to talk for the balance of the hour
Speaker 2: about jaywalking. Jaywalking's on the books in Massachusetts. You're not
Speaker 2: supposed to jaywalk. Ironically, the fine is only a dollar, okay,
Speaker 2: so it's an unenforced law. I say keep it on
Speaker 2: the books, and I say raise the price, so it's
Speaker 2: worth the police officer's effort to write a ticket. Jaywalking
Speaker 2: is dangerous. It's also dangerous to me when I'm driving
Speaker 2: my car, and one thing I do not want is
Speaker 2: to end up having someone on the hood of my
Speaker 2: car as an ornament. So I'm looking at it from
Speaker 2: the perspective of a pedestrian who has jaywalked. I'm more
Speaker 2: than happy to admit that if I look both ways
Speaker 2: and I realized there's nothing I'm probably gonna go across
Speaker 2: the street to prefer to go across in a sidewalk
Speaker 2: in a crosswalk. But so I'm I'm not without sin
Speaker 2: on this one. But I'm more concerned about I'm driving
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden there's someone who's not looking.
Speaker 2: And I've had those situations, both with drivers and with walkers,
Speaker 2: and I always try to drive as defensively as possible.
Speaker 2: And my attitude is there's someone out there today that
Speaker 2: wants to crash in to me, I want to avoid them.
Speaker 2: My question to you is jaywalking. Should the lost stay
Speaker 2: in the books? That's number one? If it's if you
Speaker 2: agree it should be on the books. Should the should
Speaker 2: the find go up a little bit? I think so.
Speaker 2: I mean I think a dollar this kind of a
Speaker 2: ridiculous number might have been good around the time of
Speaker 2: I guess when cars first came on the road, but
Speaker 2: I think we're past that stage now. So love to
Speaker 2: get your opinion. Six one, seven, two four ten thirty,
Speaker 2: six seven nine three one ten thirty. Kathy from Ludenberger
Speaker 2: is on the other side. I'd love to hear from
Speaker 2: you on this, and we are going to talk after
Speaker 2: the eleven o'clock News tonight about why is Congress sitting
Speaker 2: on the radio in cars bill? You'll be interested with
Speaker 2: some of the statistics. It's a majority of support in
Speaker 2: both the Senate and the House, and yet it has
Speaker 2: not been acted upon. I don't want to see this
Speaker 2: bill die. I want to see it pass because I
Speaker 2: think we need AM radios in cars. I say that
Speaker 2: selfishly from the point of view of as a talk
Speaker 2: show host. I know many of you are listening on
Speaker 2: radio right now in your cars, but I also think
Speaker 2: that in the time of a national emergency, AM stations
Speaker 2: have a much bigger area that they broadcast to the
Speaker 2: FM stations. FM stations are wonderful, and they're great for
Speaker 2: music and things like that, but it has really a
Speaker 2: small footprint. WBC has a huge footprint, and in the
Speaker 2: case of some sort of natural disaster, a man made disaster,
Speaker 2: we need as much communication, as much communication as possible,
Speaker 2: and as many media outlets to spread that information as possible.
Speaker 2: Coming right back on Nightside, let's finish up on Jaywalking
Speaker 2: between now and ten give me a call.
Speaker 1: Coming back now back to Dan ray Line from the
Speaker 1: Window World Nightside Studios on WBZ the news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get everyone in here, starting off with
Speaker 2: Kathy and Lunarburg. Kathy, your thoughts on jaywalking. Is it
Speaker 2: a law we should keep a get rid of.
Speaker 10: Definitely keep Okay, I agree wholeheartedly with what you said.
Speaker 10: I think the fees should be higher. People are paying
Speaker 10: less attention these days, walking around you attached their phones.
Speaker 10: I was in downtown Boston last night and it's amazing
Speaker 10: to me how many people just you know, shoot out
Speaker 10: here and they are not paying any attention. So, but
Speaker 10: I have to say, what drives me absolutely nutstand especially
Speaker 10: out where I am is now we have bike lanes
Speaker 10: and allowing bikes to ride almost in the middle of
Speaker 10: the road. It's so illogical and encouraging it. I mean,
Speaker 10: everything is so upside down.
Speaker 8: I look, I.
Speaker 2: Get they get everything they ask for and more and more.
Speaker 2: It's like they'll say, give us a bike lane ten
Speaker 2: feet wide. They say no, no, no, no, no, We'll
Speaker 2: give you.
Speaker 8: One fifteen feet I know, I know.
Speaker 10: And electric bikes, oh my god, you know, even more
Speaker 10: of a hazard. So it's like anything goes, you know,
Speaker 10: just like the cafes.
Speaker 2: Well, we talked last time about opening up cannabis.
Speaker 10: Cat, I know I was listening. Yeah, I don't agree
Speaker 10: with that either, Vanity.
Speaker 2: What you do in Boston went to a play or
Speaker 2: have dinner or something or.
Speaker 10: Mattheop holiday party?
Speaker 2: Easy, easy to find parking spaces.
Speaker 4: Right, oh sure, so you know good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all the garages are reasonably priced. How much
Speaker 2: sixty dollars, seventy dollars?
Speaker 10: I don't know. I let my husband pay.
Speaker 4: I didn't be at all.
Speaker 2: Right, Jaffy is always thanks so much for calling. Appreciate
Speaker 2: you all right, thanks, thanks, I get two more in
Speaker 2: here before the end of the night. Bill in South Boston,
Speaker 2: Bill you next time, night said, welcome.
Speaker 9: Back, Hi Dan, thank you your Darren. There's another side
Speaker 9: to the whole j walking thing, and that is being
Speaker 9: able to safely walk through a crosswalk.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, in other words, you.
Speaker 9: Don't have a lot of confidence walking through a crosswalk
Speaker 9: in Massachusetts because this rare little or limited enforcement. But
Speaker 9: I think if people actually had confidence walking through a
Speaker 9: crosswalk and they were repercussions for somebody driving through them,
Speaker 9: we might have a little bit less jaywalking.
Speaker 2: That's a good point that that's that's a good point.
Speaker 2: But again, if I'm going to crosswalk. I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't have a light shopping traffic. I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 2: the traffic.
Speaker 9: I'm not gonna oh yeah, no you no, no, no no.
Speaker 9: But it's still it is amazing, though. I've been in
Speaker 9: the middle of a crosswalk and had a coach bus
Speaker 9: while I'm halfway through the crosswalks go speeding through it.
Speaker 9: And it was a couple of times where it's been
Speaker 9: a close call.
Speaker 3: But you do have to use caution.
Speaker 9: But when somebody's speeding around the corner, you know, you
Speaker 9: obviously have to walk, pick up your feet and make time.
Speaker 9: I lived in southern California about twenty five years ago.
Speaker 9: I was out there for about a decade and two
Speaker 9: things I learned very quickly was you don't jaywalk and
Speaker 9: you don't drive through a crosswalk. And for that reason,
Speaker 9: you know, that's one thing that they very much have
Speaker 9: together out there. And also is there's six to eight
Speaker 9: lanes in each direction on the highway. People actually use
Speaker 9: turn signals. They abide by the traffic law because the
Speaker 9: California Highway Patrol is all over you if you're driving erradically,
Speaker 9: So I ride bill.
Speaker 2: What Bill, you've used a term that we're unfamiliar with
Speaker 2: here in New England's a turn signal. It's like a
Speaker 2: holy kid exactly.
Speaker 9: Well, if I wonder, sometimes you'll see it hundred hundred
Speaker 9: thousand dollars car and for some reason it doesn't come
Speaker 9: with directionals. It's amazing, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I get I gotta get one more in here.
Speaker 3: I love to call take care everybody.
Speaker 2: Take it easy, Merry Christmas. All right, let's go to
Speaker 2: John and Drake and John, I'm gonna sneak in for
Speaker 2: about a minute or so because you're calling leap it.
Speaker 2: You got the microphone.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, John, Oh no, this is a perfect again.
Speaker 5: Check this out right. I had a jaywalker and there
Speaker 5: was no Crosswalky jaywalks walked into my car, sell down,
Speaker 5: and now I have to go in front of the
Speaker 5: merit rating board because I got points on my driving record.
Speaker 5: Now I also had a witness that saw the whole
Speaker 5: thing happen. The gentleman had a fluorescent vest on underneath
Speaker 5: his jacket, but yet he walked into the side of
Speaker 5: my car around fell and broke his glasses. Now he
Speaker 5: was also quite frankly liability wise. They went after my
Speaker 5: insurance company. So now I have to dispute the fact.
Speaker 2: What besides broken glasses. First of all, he walked into
Speaker 2: your car. You didn't hit him, he hit you case,
Speaker 2: that's right, as I'm concerned John, if I'm the hearing officer, no, you.
Speaker 5: Are, and the report says differently. But guess what I
Speaker 5: have to dispute that. I have to dispute it because
Speaker 5: family members were around the corner from this particular incident
Speaker 5: and walked up to the scene and said, well, we
Speaker 5: don't sue.
Speaker 7: People, but yet they did put in acclaim.
Speaker 9: How about that?
Speaker 2: And the gentleman keep me posted. Tell the hearing officer
Speaker 2: as far as Dan Ray's concerned, case dismissed. Maybe that
Speaker 2: will help.
Speaker 5: I'm glad I got one in. Thank you sir, and
Speaker 5: happy all days.
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas to you two. Thanks to talk
Speaker 2: to you. So here comes the eleven. Right after the eleven,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about how we keep AM radios
Speaker 2: in cars. I've been meaning to do this for some time.
Speaker 2: I think it's an important issue for me. I hope
Speaker 2: it's an important one for you. We'll be back. I'll
Speaker 2: explain right after the break here at the at eleven
Speaker 2: o'clock