WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.520 Ian Crossland. Welcome to hard Truths. 2 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:02.759 Man. 3 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:03.600 How are you doing today? 4 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:04.599 Great dude? 5 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:08.279 You know, first question, do you know what these cards 6 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:09.000 are over here? 7 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:09.720 Well? 8 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:12.320 I know I know their magic. I thought they were 9 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:14.480 magic cards. I couldn't tell if they were magic or Pokemon, 10 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:16.239 but I thought they were magic cards. But what I 11 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:18.600 can't tell what cards they are? Are they? What are they? 12 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:21.320 How dare you judge me think that I'm a Pokemon card? Now, 13 00:00:21.399 --> 00:00:23.600 I know you played magic cards, but. 14 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:24.879 Do you did you play Pokemon? 15 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:29.440 I played Pokemon Go, so like, yeah, okay, but I 16 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:31.079 didn't play Pokemon cards or whatever. 17 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:32.079 But okay, so I was a. 18 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:32.960 Kid and I played. 19 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:35.520 I grew up with magic cards, but like I never 20 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:37.799 really like played, you know, in the nineties, and then 21 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:41.280 as an adult I kind of got into it. And actually, uh, 22 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:43.719 this is the coach sent me that uncut sheet right there. 23 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:46.759 That's a war the spark, the one with all the planes. 24 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:48.600 Walkers in it. I don't know if you remember, but 25 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:51.200 I bought some stuff from them, and they like mess 26 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:53.439 up the order, so they sent these, uh these cards. 27 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:55.200 I just think it looks really cool. So I got it. 28 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:57.479 It looks amazing. Dude, are they foil. 29 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:00.759 Yeah. Yeah, they're all like the foil plane that looks 30 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:03.799 so good. I don't know, and I just lean into 31 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:05.719 being a nerd anyway. I'm not ashamed of it at all. 32 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:09.280 Yeah, it's mathematics magic the gathering. It's just math with 33 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:11.920 the colors and pictures of dragons and shit. But it's 34 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:12.439 all math. 35 00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:14.040 Yeah. Let me ask you that. 36 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:15.799 That brings me to kind of My first question is 37 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:20.319 have you ever heard the thing about, like I know 38 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:25.560 you're a musician, that mathematicians when they are asked what 39 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:28.359 study are do they most relate to? 40 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:32.159 I think that they overwhelmingly agreed music was the answer. 41 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:34.359 Have you ever heard that before? Do you agree with Yeah? 42 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.159 I have heard that. It's works with me too, especially geometry. 43 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:40.560 I think of music as like spatial sound, spatial awareness, moving. 44 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:43.959 I think of a lot in terms of momentum and 45 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:48.159 like pattern, like when you moved, when you walk across 46 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:50.120 the room, it's like a pattern. I see, like a 47 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:52.519 pattern of motion, and so I hear that when I 48 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:56.159 hear sound, like I can picture one, three, five, and 49 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:57.840 I see it on a graph, and that's just like 50 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.000 a line graph. I can picture the shape of the sound. 51 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:02.640 But then you can actually hear like the wholeness of 52 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:04.959 tone as well, and it kind of creates these like 53 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:08.199 spherical canonical shapes and things like that. And I think 54 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:10.280 a lot of is like filling space. Similar with cooking, 55 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:12.800 you want to like make sure there's enough seasoning in 56 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:14.879 all the little parts of the bowl and that no 57 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:17.000 part of the thing is too hot, that all the 58 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:20.319 temperatures evenly dispersed. So it's kind of with sound is similar. 59 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:21.800 You know. 60 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:23.960 The other thing that reminds me of is I think 61 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:26.520 this is something that we talked about on the podcast 62 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:27.240 when we were on. 63 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:30.719 Culture Wars, was like waves versus particles. 64 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:33.520 You know, is that when you think of sound like that, 65 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:36.560 when you think of you know, you're really describing waves. 66 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:38.599 In my opinion, you know, it's like the up down motion. 67 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:41.919 It's like you're this resonance kind of that's out there. 68 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:45.360 I think that the question is is matter is matter 69 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:47.000 a wave? Can matter be a wave? 70 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:49.759 We stuck in this particle mindset where everything must be 71 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:52.840 this definite thing, definite thing? But is it possible that 72 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:55.960 we are just a complex series of wave forms? But 73 00:02:56.199 --> 00:02:58.199 we you know that there's some other explanation. Do you 74 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:00.439 do you agree with the that kind of viewpoint, that 75 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:01.520 esotery viewpoint. 76 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:04.439 Yeah. And you know, after wayping, you and you came 77 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:07.039 on and you you and you came on the culture war, 78 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.800 I started thinking a lot about subatomic spin and like 79 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:12.280 what's causing it? You know, the scientific community thinks maybe 80 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.919 was it angular momentum, But then they're like no, because 81 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:17.360 that would mean that these two vortices are traveling the 82 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:19.400 speed of light, which is not possible. So what is it? 83 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:22.120 They don't know? I think it's simatics that there's a 84 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:26.039 vibration of space time that's causing the position of the 85 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:29.560 subatomic space to face left, and then the frequency changes 86 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:31.960 and it faces north, then it changes again, it faces east, 87 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:34.719 faces south as the frequency changes, but the frequency is 88 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:38.439 changing so fast that it looks like it's spinning. And 89 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:43.199 so there's some maybe low, maybe not imperceivable vibration, but 90 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:45.280 I think eventually we'll end up being able to measure 91 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:49.240 what's causing shape to snap to that form. 92 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:50.879 No, that's a good way to put it. 93 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:54.039 And so we were talking about quantum spin, and we 94 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:56.560 know there is spin when we look at particles at 95 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:58.960 the quantum level because we can see like the perturbation 96 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:02.199 and we can measure that, like we can put electromagnetic. 97 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:02.280 Fields next to them. 98 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:05.159 We can see these things react, So we know that 99 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:07.400 there must be this quantum spin. But then it's like, 100 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:09.360 what does that actually mean? You could watch videos all 101 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:11.840 day of people online trying to explain quantum spin, but 102 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:14.120 end of the day, it's like, we know it has 103 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:17.480 the properties of something that's spinning, but at the same time, 104 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:20.079 we think of it as just this like quantum kind 105 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:22.199 of magical uh. 106 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:26.319 You know, dot this particle. So it's hard for us 107 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:27.279 to wrap our brains around that. 108 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:29.160 I think one other thing that could open the door 109 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:31.160 to that is something we talked about on the podcast too, 110 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:33.839 which is the ether. It's like the idea of this 111 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:38.199 extra dimension that was thrown out, you know, like one 112 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:42.680 hundred years ago. Because if there is this spin that's happening, 113 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:44.839 if there is some effect that's had, where's it coming from? 114 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:47.160 What's causing that to happen? And surely there must be 115 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:50.120 some force kind of pushing on it from some direction 116 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.040 to cause it to spin or for something like that 117 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:55.000 to happen. Have you had any thoughts about the idea 118 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:56.680 of the ether and extra dimension at all? 119 00:04:57.160 --> 00:05:00.240 Well? Yeah, but what does that mean? Exc What is 120 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:03.120 ether exactly? Is that the fabric of space time is ether. 121 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:04.759 They think it's an actual fabric. 122 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:07.600 So not really like we've kind of moved away from 123 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:10.600 this like fluid medium. I mean, it really would be 124 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:12.879 a super fluid if you were really described it as 125 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:14.240 a lot of different ways to describe it, but you 126 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:18.199 could say that space time itself is like a flexible solid. 127 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:20.600 So it can like it's solid, but it can move, 128 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:22.040 it can jiggle it a little bit, like it's. 129 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:23.639 Connected, but it can move around. 130 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:29.759 Leonard Suskind, who's written is kind of popularized er equals EPR. 131 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:33.240 I think he would call it like anti desiter space. 132 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:35.399 So it's almost like a counter space. So like you 133 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:38.600 have this the universe trying to expand you know, at 134 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:40.680 the same time you have this force pointed together at 135 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:41.199 the same time. 136 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:42.800 So but that's more. 137 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:45.639 I don't know how he geometrically like connect how they 138 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:47.800 connect it together. But the way I perceive it is 139 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.639 like Yin and Yang's like you've got our observable reality 140 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:53.839 and then you have this quantum reality and they say 141 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:56.079 it must be connected through this idea of quantum gravity 142 00:05:56.480 --> 00:06:00.720 that is in this imperceivable extra dimension. And what this 143 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:02.759 then opens the door up to is like you know, 144 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:05.480 wormholes and things like that, where you would say that 145 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:09.680 like the holographic principle. So if I'm playing a video game, 146 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:12.000 like if I'm playing Minecraft or something, it seems like 147 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:13.920 I'm in a three dimensional world when I'm playing the 148 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:16.759 video game, but I know I'm not really, I know, really, 149 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:19.439 I'm on a microchip somewhere right, and that if I 150 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:21.319 were to take that microchip, I could connect it to 151 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:24.160 a different microchip somewhere else, and now you know they 152 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:26.000 would be together, but you know, they would. 153 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:28.399 Seem to be super far away. It's kind of like 154 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:29.000 that idea. 155 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:31.720 And I think that the ether then adds this extra 156 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:35.240 dimension to explain like how can you you know, how 157 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:37.920 can you wrap something together? There must be some medium 158 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:39.879 that you're in in order for like that type of 159 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:40.480 thing to happen. 160 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:41.279 Does that make sense? 161 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:46.519 Yeah, So it's like a sub atomic real, like the 162 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:48.759 fabric of the sub atomic reality. 163 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:53.480 Yeah, And so like molecules will like exchange energy with 164 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.959 this ether all the time. So it's the idea that 165 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:00.680 like hal Pudov's nineteen eighty seven paper that says ground 166 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:03.720 state of the hydrogen atom is he says it, Oh, 167 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:06.600 this at the hydrogen atom when it's at rest, it's 168 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:08.720 not radiating energy, but they would expect it. 169 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:09.759 To radiate energy. 170 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:12.560 And they're saying, well, why doesn't it do that because 171 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.560 it's spinning, right, it's got this quantum spin. And they say, well, 172 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:17.879 it's because it must be in some sort of equilibrium, 173 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:20.360 like whatever energy is being radiated out must be getting 174 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:22.319 absorbed in at the same exact rate. 175 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:23.680 So there's this idea that. 176 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:27.680 Like particles are actually just exchanging energy with the zero 177 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:29.800 point energy all the time, so they might have like 178 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:32.199 a reservoir of energy that they're kind of like tapping into. 179 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:34.199 So I think that's a way to put it. 180 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:39.120 Nasim Harriman has this concept of the schwartz Child proton, 181 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:42.079 where he had mathematically derived that every proton was two 182 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:44.480 protons spinning around each other at the speed of light, 183 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:47.639 putting information into the vacuum. Maybe it's the ether is 184 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:49.160 what he's talking about that he calls of the vacuum 185 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:52.240 of space time, and so it's repositive depositing information into 186 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:54.800 the vacuum. The vacuum itself then is doing a massive 187 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:57.720 calculation of everything in the known universe and then giving 188 00:07:57.720 --> 00:08:00.920 you a local response in it lights as the net 189 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:03.720 as the photon emerges from the vacuum back into reality. 190 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:05.920 And so that may be how the information is being 191 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.759 or one way that information is being transmitted into the 192 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.519 subsystem into the Would. 193 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:12.600 You guys ever talk to him or had him on 194 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:13.079 the show or no. 195 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:17.439 I've only seen his stuff. Yeah, I've been. People have 196 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:20.560 been telling me to contact him for literally nineteen years. 197 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:22.879 I would love to get in touch with them. 198 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:25.199 Yeah, And I just realized we're actually live on YouTube. 199 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:28.360 I accidentally went live without realizing this. So okay, I 200 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:29.480 guess we're just going to play. 201 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:33.600 This out awesome rock and oops. 202 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:36.360 Yeah, go ahead, both of you on. I'll like re 203 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:38.759 edit it, probably re upload it later on. Okay, I 204 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:41.559 just realized it. Okay, So yeah, now seem here. 205 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:44.320 I mean, you know, he's I think he's the only 206 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:46.480 person who can claim the title of zero point energy 207 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:48.679 Influencer more than I can, probably because he's like the 208 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:51.440 OG and one of the things to a lot of 209 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:53.039 these guys. One of the things I've realized is they 210 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:55.320 use the different terminology for the same stuff, So you 211 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:58.480 will he'll hear people use like quantum vacuum, or they'll 212 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.440 use a vacuum, but they'll also say, well, the vacuum 213 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:04.279 is not empty, you know, it's it's not an empty vacuum. 214 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:06.919 And so it's the same ideas that the zero point 215 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:10.759 energy of the ether. Uh, they're connected through this idea 216 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:12.159 of an extra dimension. 217 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:14.759 And this is where I wanted to kind. 218 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:18.200 Of take it in the next uh kind of discussion 219 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:21.360 with you, which is that like the alien topic, you know, 220 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:26.080 especially recently, ANNAPOLINEA Luna was on Joe Rogan and she 221 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:30.320 was talking about, you know, the extra dimensional aliens. I mean, 222 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:31.960 you guys have heard this thing. You guys have either 223 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:33.879 had her Nancy Mace or you know, you guys have 224 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:34.440 had people. 225 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:37.120 On the Yeah, we had both. Yeah. We we interviewed 226 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:40.360 Luna Ana Paulina Luna while we were at Congress. We 227 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:42.960 did like a roundtable where different congressmen were coming in 228 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:44.919 and sitting down. So she came in for about twenty minutes, 229 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:47.480 and then Nancy Mace we had on officially as a 230 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:48.679 guest on IRL once. 231 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:50.159 So what are your thoughts, what do you think about 232 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.399 Congress and what do you think about this UFO disclosure stuff? 233 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:55.360 I think that extra Okay, I think it is. It's 234 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:58.279 a misnomer to say extra dimensional. That's insane. You and 235 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.720 I are extra dimensional creatures. We live in multiple dimensions. 236 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:04.080 We are in the fourth dimension. We actually exist in 237 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:06.159 the fifth dimension, even though you might not see it 238 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:09.600 with your eyeballs. So that is like a really dumb 239 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:13.519 layman thing to say extra dimensional, that these things are 240 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:17.519 extra dimensional. Yes, of course. Uh you know, if we're 241 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:21.399 talking like spirits, that's a I don't believe them. I 242 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:24.960 don't believe that spirits are piloting airplanes. I don't. 243 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:28.919 Yeah, I need evidence, you said, so, okay, so this 244 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:30.200 is why this is the thing too. 245 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:32.799 It's like I love your take there. It's like extra dimensional, 246 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:34.159 what does that actually mean? 247 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:35.320 Like, yeah, we're extra. 248 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:38.039 Dimensional beans, we live in three dimensions and a time dimension. 249 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:41.759 So it seems like it's just like a red hairy 250 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:43.639 and they're just throwing this idea. They're trying to make 251 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:47.000 it sound scary or something like sensationalized, like oh, yeah, 252 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:49.840 the extra dimension. Because when I found like, okay, there's 253 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:52.159 this extra dimension, this ether, and you know, maybe this 254 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.639 explains how we can do wormholes, I'm going, well, I 255 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:57.320 wouldn't call a bean that goes through a wormhole an 256 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:58.679 extra dimensional bean. 257 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:01.120 I would just say it just went through a wormalle. 258 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:02.360 It's still in our universe. 259 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:04.679 I mean, you know, I mean, but granted it could 260 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:07.799 come run different you know, universe if you believe in 261 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:10.679 multi worlds theory. So I guess what I would want 262 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:12.759 to know from them when they're asking this stuff is like, 263 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:15.600 are you saying that there's infinite universes and that you 264 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:17.320 can go to different ones? Because that would be a 265 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.679 major physics claim to say, right, is that there are 266 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:23.519 multiple universes and aliens are coming from a different universe 267 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:25.360 than we're coming from. 268 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:27.360 So, I mean, do you what do you think? 269 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:30.799 Do you think there she's just doesn't understand physics and science, 270 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.120 or do you think that like this is some kind 271 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:35.039 of narrative that's being pushed. 272 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:38.799 Well, she doesn't understand what extra dimensional means. Obviously, if 273 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:41.159 she's just repeating that, she's repeating what she was told 274 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:43.919 by someone that probably was told that or decided that's 275 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.200 the narrative we're going to run with. But I also 276 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:49.879 think they are working with like space time warping technology 277 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:54.240 that they're creating cavitation bubbles and defying you know, classical 278 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:55.480 physics and things like that. 279 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:00.440 Yeah, and I mean you just have to listen to 280 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:04.559 like what Science and Technology advisor Michael Kratzios has been saying, 281 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:06.399 if you you know, if you question that, I mean 282 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:09.000 literally said, we have the ability to manipulate time and 283 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:12.159 space to annihilate distance. And we've had Trump say multiple 284 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:16.559 times that we've got weapons that nobody understands. 285 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:16.679 How they work. 286 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:18.519 I mean you said it multiple times like it had 287 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:24.120 to be scripted. Basically, people think that manipulating time and 288 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:28.600 space is some magical sci fi Star trek type thing, 289 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:32.120 but actually it's much simpler than that. It's really just 290 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:36.600 about I mean, gravity is just mass that's condensed into 291 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:39.679 a region, that's just pulling on something. That's the way 292 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:42.360 we at least perceive it, right, It's not necessarily exactly correct, 293 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:47.200 but mass is just energy equals mc square. So in theory, 294 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:49.679 if you have a whole bunch of energy, then you 295 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:53.120 should have gravity being sucked towards that, right. I mean, 296 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:56.399 that's a simple thing to understand. So then what then, 297 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:59.440 I would say, Okay, well, at what scale, like does it. 298 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:02.639 Have to be a sphere? Of mass like this size 299 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:04.840 of my this sphere here, or can it be a 300 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:07.360 super super super tiny dot? Right? 301 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:09.600 Can it be a super tiny dot and I just 302 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:12.960 compact as much energy onto that little little tiny dot. 303 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:15.159 Is it really about energy density? 304 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:15.440 Right? 305 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:17.840 It's really about how much can you compact onto a 306 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:20.360 little tiny point. And turns out when you look at 307 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:24.000 it from that perspective, it's not that insurmountable of the challenge. 308 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:27.039 It turns out we can have like these super powerful 309 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:30.720 lasers that focus energy onto a very tiny point in 310 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:34.799 time and in space, and that, in theory could be 311 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:39.039 enough to stimulate a gravitational effect of me, you know, measured, 312 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:42.039 and then that can also be useful for things like 313 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:45.039 fusion as well. So it's I don't think it's surprises 314 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:48.200 anybody that they're at least working on the ideas of 315 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:51.840 anti gravity or gravity manipulation, space time manipulation, whatever you 316 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:53.559 want to call it, it's all the same thing. I 317 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:57.039 would just call it, like manipulation of the ether. You 318 00:13:57.039 --> 00:14:01.639 were talking about cimatics, Like, the question is how do 319 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:03.600 you manipulate entanglement? 320 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:06.039 How do you create entanglement? 321 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:09.960 I think you need to understand where you're going, so 322 00:14:10.039 --> 00:14:11.799 What you do is you have to map the matrix. 323 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:15.519 You get a three dimensional space, and then you you 324 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.360 derive what is in each position, how the consistency, how 325 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:23.279 much of it and where? So what how much and where? 326 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:26.919 If you can mapch that for every incremental metal point 327 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:30.039 in this three dimensional x y z cube, then you've 328 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:32.519 mapped the matrix. You know what, where and how much 329 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:36.600 of each in each space. Then you have a mathematical map. 330 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:39.960 You can teleport too. So if you know where you're going, 331 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.039 if you know what you're going, you know where you're going, 332 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:45.320 what you're going, it's the same thing. What where? It's 333 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:47.440 all one thing. What is it? That is where it is? 334 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:50.080 If you know that and you can calculate that, then 335 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:52.039 you can target it, I think, and then you can 336 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:55.679 you can replicate it locally and be there at a distance. 337 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:56.679 You know. 338 00:14:56.679 --> 00:14:58.919 They have a term for what you just said. It's 339 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:03.879 called solving Schrodinger's equation. So actually there are people working 340 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:06.000 on this idea of like if there is a medium 341 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:09.120 and even though we can't perceive it, is there a 342 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:11.720 way where we can like reverse engineer, like you said, 343 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.200 like figure out the matrix? Right, Like we only imagine, 344 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:16.399 we only see this flat surface. Is there a way 345 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:19.120 to figure out, like, what is all this like with 346 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:21.159 this whole bulk here that we can't see? Is there 347 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:23.919 a way to measure, measure it and measure its effect 348 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:26.879 on our flat two D reality? And the answer is yes. 349 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:29.399 The Aaron Hoff Bom effect is a good example of this. 350 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:32.159 Aeronoff Bom effect is a real experiment. They take a 351 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:35.519 solenoid that traps all the electromagnetic fields in a cylinder 352 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:38.480 inside of it, and you would say, okay, well, there's 353 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:41.559 no electromagnetic field signal on the outside of the solenoid, 354 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:44.120 so if I shoot an electron past it, nothing, there 355 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:46.559 shouldn't be any interference or any you know, shift in 356 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:47.320 the phase pattern. 357 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:48.200 But there is. 358 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:51.720 There's an actual measurable effect. It's called the scaler potential 359 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:57.039 and so or the magnetic scalar potential of it. And 360 00:15:57.080 --> 00:16:00.480 so the question here then is if you can measure this, 361 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:04.000 then can you reverse engineer it. There's a great uh 362 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:08.200 presentation that I was watching about or or optical vortices 363 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:10.639 of light, and really what it was about was like 364 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:12.960 trying to figure out like if you have this vortex motion, 365 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:14.960 if you were looking at a two dimensional surface and 366 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:17.960 you just saw a circle. Could you map out what 367 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:20.279 the vortex motion is in an extra dimension? 368 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:21.399 Could you map it out? 369 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:24.399 And after they model it out a while, they come 370 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:26.200 up with and they say, oh, here's an equation that 371 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:29.600 you know, seems like it fits what the experimental data shows. 372 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:32.840 And so from that that kind of you know, answers 373 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:36.360 the question too. Could you actually create entanglement? Could you 374 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:40.799 manipulate the ether or this extra dimension to cause two 375 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:43.240 things to be you know, joined together. 376 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:45.200 Now maybe, well, yes, if you can solve it. 377 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:49.639 But if we can figure out the subatomic formation of 378 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.600 the matter and then figure out what frequencies if this 379 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:56.000 theory that it's a simatic you know, phenomenon that's causing 380 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:58.240 sub atomic formation, if you can figure out what frequencies 381 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:00.720 cause the sub atomic formation to cause the matter to be, 382 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:03.120 what is thus like this this area that you want 383 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:05.640 to entangle to, then it would be more of creating 384 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:09.799 the frequency patterns in a system to reproduce the sub 385 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:11.200 atomic features. 386 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:14.559 Yeah, I think that actually is what it is. So 387 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:17.599 because cimatics, if people are not familiar, the simplest explanation 388 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:19.960 of cimatics is you just take a metal plate and 389 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:22.960 you put sand on it and then you just hit 390 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:27.759 it with or vibrate the plate at different frequencies and 391 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:31.680 different shapes begin to form. So the question here is 392 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:34.079 is this connected to this idea of the ether, Like 393 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:36.839 why are those shapes forming from certain frequencies? Is it 394 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:38.960 because we're in a medium and you're seeing this vibration 395 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:41.279 and can you then map that that's what they are 396 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:44.319 doing with Bose Einstein content states. That's actually what Bose 397 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:46.720 Einstein content states are. Now we think of them at 398 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:49.480 this thing at very low temperature, but it really when 399 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:51.119 you boil it down to what is actually means this 400 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:54.000 coherent shape that's being created by a frequency, and so 401 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:55.359 how is that being created? 402 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:57.920 Go ahead and like the simatics on the plate you 403 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:00.640 were talking about, that's a two dimensional represent When you 404 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:04.200 see three dimensional bubble simatics, good board, I think that 405 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:07.400 is what is that Bose Einstein condensates. They think that 406 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.200 they're bubble simatic or maybe something got to getting close. 407 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:11.680 I mean, I think we're blurring the line at this 408 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:13.880 point in terms of what, yeah, is it The same 409 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:16.519 physics at play in the bubble simatics is what we 410 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:18.319 see in the Bose ein Sein condensates, I think so, 411 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:21.400 and the idea there is that we're creating these coherent 412 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:25.000 stabilized shapes and the other thing that then ether then 413 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:28.000 opens up the idea to is like just stabilize structures 414 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:31.960 in general, and geometry stabilize geometric structures. So a good 415 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:35.279 example of one would be like a smoke ring, you know, smokering, 416 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:38.440 Like when you blow smokering, it's crazy how stable it is, 417 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:40.119 like that thing can blow and blow and blow. 418 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:42.359 And the reason why it's stables because it's a toroid. 419 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:45.559 It's a toroidal shape, so you'll have the toroidal field 420 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.720 and then you'll have the paloidal field going around the 421 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:50.839 toroidal field as well, so you'll see the smoke kind 422 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:53.160 of going around the ring as well as it blows. 423 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:58.559 This also holds true for plasma as well. So the 424 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:04.079 question then is can can we manufacture reality through these 425 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:08.279 concepts or you know, going back to the disclosure question, 426 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:11.160 can aliens do it? You know, can we make a 427 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:13.279 Star Trek replicator out of this? When you start to 428 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:16.279 be able to say, Okay, I'm gonna stimulate the ether 429 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:21.400 with some you know, uh frequency, and then I'm going 430 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:24.880 to cause an effect to happen the coherent shape to happen. Now, 431 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:26.480 it's just like Okay, I'm just gonna tune it to 432 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:29.039 whatever I want to occur, right. 433 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:30.759 And it and it would be about the impulse of 434 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:33.480 it too, so about the frequency and how fast you're 435 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:35.960 introducing the frequency into the systems like bla bah blah 436 00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:37.359 blah blah by at a certain frequency and then you 437 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:38.880 like slow it down, maybe you won't hit it, but 438 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:41.160 then you like so like there's these what impulse are 439 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:43.839 you delivering and what frequencies are being delivered, and then 440 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:47.119 you'll be able to produce hydrogen with that that impulse frequency. 441 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:49.559 And then if you do that and add other impulse 442 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:53.799 frequencies to produce heat or or magnetic confinement, you might 443 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:55.319 be able to produce fusion. 444 00:19:56.640 --> 00:19:56.880 Yeah. 445 00:19:57.079 --> 00:20:00.559 So the hydrogen thing is really interesting because I keep 446 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:04.200 thinking of this one experiment, the dynamic Casmir effect, where 447 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:08.640 real photons are just being pulled out of the virtual photons. 448 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:10.559 Because when I think about that from the perspective of 449 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:12.160 you know, the ether is your point and going, wait, 450 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:17.200 we're just pulling light out of the vacuum out of nothing, right, Well, 451 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:19.640 how is that happening at all? And if we can 452 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:22.640 pull light out of the vacuum, then well e equals 453 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:26.519 mc squared, So light is you know, energy is matter. 454 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:28.200 So and the. 455 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:30.400 Most simple ad in the most simple element is hydrogen. 456 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:34.480 So can we just literally produce hydrogen out of nowhere? 457 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:37.519 I think the answer is yes. I think we actually 458 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:40.279 can produce hydrogen out of nowhere and then transmute elements 459 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:42.599 as well. The fusion aspect of it, I think is 460 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:44.920 a little bit more complicated. I've been doing a pretty 461 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:49.160 deep dive into fusion, and I don't think the secret 462 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:52.319 is just like understanding gravity or what have you. It's 463 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:55.200 a little bit more complicated than that. I think the 464 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:57.920 real secret of fusion is actually. 465 00:20:59.079 --> 00:20:59.960 Non ignition fuel. 466 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:02.640 Like in our heads we think of it as like 467 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:04.720 we need to make a star, and we need it 468 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:07.359 to be this star that's roiling with heat coming out 469 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:10.400 of it. But if you incorporate the ideas of like 470 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:14.559 Nikola Tesla and like electric circuits that are super efficient, 471 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:18.400 then you can actually make an electric circuit, electric generator 472 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:23.039 using fusion that doesn't require ignition that can produce over unity. 473 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:26.440 So the idea of being we can get small scale 474 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:28.799 fusion reactions like temporary ones like pulse ones like you're 475 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:31.680 talking about, and get fusion reactions to occur, but we're 476 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:34.640 not going to get this permanent sun that's there, and 477 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:37.400 the output of that can be higher than the total 478 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:39.759 energy input, which is really what we're trying to achieve, 479 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:41.920 which is just infinite free energy. 480 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:44.920 Right. Yeah, in order to build these little suns. I 481 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:46.240 was thinking, I know, I think I know how to 482 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:48.599 do it. There's this guy, John Kansas. He was a 483 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:51.799 chemist in Ohio. He passed away in like two thousand 484 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:53.640 and He was looking for a cure for cancer, and 485 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:57.559 he was running frequency through salt water in his laboratory, 486 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:00.559 different frequencies. I don't know if you've you've seen this. 487 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.400 There's video of this guy doing this. He finds the frequency. 488 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:05.640 I don't have it written down. He runs a certain 489 00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:09.000 frequency through saltwater. It lights off fire like a hydrogen flame, 490 00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:12.039 sixteen hundred degree hydrogen flame off the surface of the 491 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:14.759 salt water. There's a gap between the saltwater and the flame, 492 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:17.000 just like the sun, between the surface of the sun 493 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.160 and the corona. There's that gap, and I'm like, okay, 494 00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:22.279 that's an electromagnetic flame being produced. So if that saltwater 495 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:25.200 was in orbit, it would coagulate into a sphere. Naturally, 496 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:27.279 we run the frequency through it, you get a light bulb, 497 00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:30.759 a star, and so you figure out if you can 498 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:33.480 collect that heat somehow and use that heat to produce 499 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:37.200 the electricity to continue the frequency, you'll have an ever 500 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:40.519 producing star basically. But I wonder if that would produce 501 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:42.640 like a z pinch phenomenon, if it would cause some 502 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:45.440 sort of electric discharge into our own sun, into the 503 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:47.920 Earth's magnetic field. Like it could be a real dangerous experiment, 504 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:51.079 but it would be. It would be an immense amount 505 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:53.680 of heat, and you just have to fuel it with saltwater. 506 00:22:53.720 --> 00:22:56.599 You just have to keep pumping saltwater in. Yeah. 507 00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:59.839 And that's the thing is that once we realize that 508 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:02.799 we can use like water as a fuel source, I 509 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:06.640 think I think it was redheaded. Libertarian was posted about 510 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:10.039 Stanley Meyer the other day, and you know, I thought 511 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:11.880 at once upon time that the whole water power car 512 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:14.720 thing was nonsense. But then I realized I watched this 513 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:19.440 video about if you take water and put it in 514 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:21.720 like a cup or a bucket, and then take a 515 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:24.880 tube and go up like a couple hundred feet and 516 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:27.440 just an altitude, like you know, up some stairs or whatever, 517 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:29.559 and you have your water tube and you suck the 518 00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:31.720 water all the way up through the tube. You get 519 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:34.839 to a point eventually where above a certain level the 520 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:35.960 water boils. 521 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:38.039 Room temperature just boils. 522 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:40.000 So like the water will go up to this level, 523 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:43.119 everything above it just turns into gas automatically because why 524 00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:43.599 the pressure. 525 00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:44.559 There's not enough pressure. 526 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:47.279 So without enough pressure, the water can't stay together and 527 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:50.559 the water just falls apart. And so this would be 528 00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:52.599 how are people able to make. 529 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:53.279 A water power car? 530 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:56.880 Well, that's how you basically cause the hydrogen and the 531 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.519 oxygen you just fall apart. And now you can use 532 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:01.960 either as the fuel source. You know, you can pump 533 00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:03.880 the oxygen I think it is to your engine. If 534 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:05.759 you want to make it more efficient, you can potentially 535 00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:09.200 use the hydrogen directly as fuel source as well. So 536 00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:12.240 we have fuel all around us. If we understand nuclear 537 00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:16.000 physics and nuclear science, and if we can manipulate gravity, 538 00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:18.519 if you can manipulate gravity itself, in my mind, you 539 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:22.799 should be able to cause that net pressure, that lack 540 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:24.759 of pressure. You should be able to cause that to occur. 541 00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:26.559 And then the question is, okay, well, how do I 542 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:28.400 how do you make a system. It's actually pretty simple. 543 00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:29.960 You just have your area where you have the water 544 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:32.480 comes apart, and then you send it to a different area. 545 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:34.480 You either send the hydrogen or the oxygen where you 546 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:36.880 want to go to produce energy, or if you want 547 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:38.680 it to recombine, you just send it to a different 548 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:41.359 area where now that's gonna it wants to come back together. 549 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:43.559 It's just gonna recombine there, and then you can use 550 00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:46.559 the excess energy or the energy that's produced from fusion. 551 00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:48.759 So I think the idea of the water power car 552 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:51.440 is definitely within reason. And I think that some of 553 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:55.000 these like low energy nuclear fusion reactors, they're trying to 554 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.319 do what you just mentioned, which is like you know, 555 00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:01.359 burn salt water, or in some cases they're using the air. 556 00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:04.599 Air is fuel as well, because air's got potentially enough 557 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:07.400 elements in it, they don't need a lot of molecules 558 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:09.480 in order to make you know, fusion reactions occur. 559 00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:13.160 Oh man, you're as you were saying about the like 560 00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:17.880 making water reducing the density so it becomes gaseous. I realized, Okay, 561 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:19.720 so if I took my saltwater out into orbit to 562 00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:21.839 light it up like a light bulb, it would turn 563 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:23.599 into gas. So we maybe we need to take ice. 564 00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:26.519 We need to take ice into orbit and just electrocute 565 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:29.519 ice or run a current through ice to give off maybe, 566 00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:31.160 and then it would melt and create like a self. 567 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.640 Like the sun. The sun doesn't just evaporate, it's keeping 568 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:37.960 itself in positions. So at some point I feel like 569 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:41.519 the heat would would like be make a self containing 570 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:43.039 I don't know. 571 00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:46.279 So let's talk about fusion, because this was the thing that, Man, 572 00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:48.680 what a eye opener for me. I was really all 573 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:50.759 of like, why have we been failing at fusion for 574 00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:54.119 seventy years? You know, like we've been supposedly we've had 575 00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:56.559 the age bomb since the sixties, but I don't think 576 00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:58.799 there's ever been an official use of the age bomb. 577 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:01.799 He really knows what a fusion bomb is. 578 00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:04.640 We just assume it's this big, big boom, right, We 579 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.799 just assume that it is. So when I started researching 580 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:11.160 fusion trying to figure out, like, okay, why we failed, 581 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:13.559 why does it suck? The first thing I found is 582 00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:16.799 that the hot fusion people have really a one track mindset. 583 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:18.799 They're trying to get to ignition. They're trying to get 584 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:23.359 to a star producing a star that was really hot. 585 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:27.480 Now here's the problem is that the energy efficiency of 586 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:30.400 any system where we're just getting heat out of it 587 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:32.839 is really low. Like let's I'm just gonna throw at 588 00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:35.000 random number. This is just an index number, like thirty 589 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:38.960 twenty or thirty percent. Let's say if we could produce 590 00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:43.519 electricity directly from our nuclear reactions, that efficiency can get 591 00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:46.119 up to like ninety percent, so two three times more 592 00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:49.640 efficient than those other forms. So in theory, we don't 593 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:53.000 even really want this all is excess heat. In a 594 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:55.319 perfect world, what we'd like is we'd like our power 595 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:59.039 plant to produce electricity directly, not like making steam and 596 00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:00.640 then having steam t spin. 597 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:02.119 The turbine or whatever it is. 598 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:05.359 So when I was looking at the fusion types, I 599 00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.880 found one that I've called the I can't say I 600 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.079 coined it, but I'm calling it cool fusion. So cold 601 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:13.839 fusion was this idea that you could put like metal 602 00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:15.920 rods in water and then all of a sudden, put 603 00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:18.240 like a current through it. Now it's gonna boil, and 604 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.480 there's gonna be this excess heat in there. And this 605 00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:25.279 was considered like basically like room temperature nuclear reactions hot 606 00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:27.839 fusion is like a tokamac. We're saying, Okay, we're trying 607 00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:31.039 to get ignition, and once we get ignition, then ignition happens, 608 00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:34.279 and now there's enough energy that we've got this runaway. 609 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:35.480 Star that runs itself. 610 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:39.559 There's a third option, cool fusion, and this is the 611 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:41.680 one I was kind of saying before. So the companies 612 00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:46.119 are doing cool fusion are Helion Energy, which is funded 613 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:52.640 by Mythral Capital, George or pal whatever, Peter Thiel and 614 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:58.000 Sam Altman, and another one is try Alpha Energy, and 615 00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.400 both of these have backing by the Department of Event Energy. 616 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:02.519 And what they're doing is they're saying, we're not even 617 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:05.839 trying to get to ignition at all. They're keeping their 618 00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:08.839 temperatures lower than that. But they're using a different fuel source. 619 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.440 They're using helium three. So they're doing something where they 620 00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.039 call it a neutronic The neutrons are where the heat 621 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.160 comes from, So why is it all this heat coming out, Well, 622 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.680 the neutrons. So they found a form of fusion that 623 00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.240 they're doing where they call it a neutronic fusion where 624 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:26.400 there's only a very very little bit of neutrons coming out. 625 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:28.640 And so what this means is they can actually capture 626 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:32.720 the energy as electricity directly. The way they explain this 627 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.160 is they say, well, okay, we make this plasmoid and 628 00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.240 they literally creating a plasmoid like a plasma smoke ring. 629 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.119 And they create this plasmoid and its magnetic field strength 630 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.440 is so strong that while it's trying to spread out 631 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.119 and come apart, the magnetic field strength keeps it together 632 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.400 and the magnetic field strength pulling it together walls trying 633 00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:53.640 to expand like this is where they pull the kinetic 634 00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:55.480 energy out of the just and turn it. 635 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:57.960 Into like an engine like this. At least that's how 636 00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:58.559 it's described. 637 00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:00.759 You know what I think, But I think that is 638 00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.759 is friction. That's that that excess heat that's in that 639 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.079 system or something like friction. I asked chat GPC to 640 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:09.680 help me calculate this because what's happening. There's this ideal 641 00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:11.759 gas lots that the pressure of a system is equal 642 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:13.880 to the volume multiplied by the temperature. I think that's 643 00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.119 what it is. So there's an inverse relationship in the pressure, 644 00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.839 volume and temperature of a system. If you increase the pressure, 645 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:20.920 the system's either going to expand in volume or it's 646 00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.640 gonna get hotter, and that's basically the thing. But the 647 00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:26.880 ideal gas law is written for tubes to go longer 648 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:28.759 and shorter to get water out of wells. It was 649 00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:31.359 written in the eighteen hundreds. So fusion, I think, is 650 00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:35.319 this gas, this this plasma, you know, the fluid, and 651 00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:38.880 but it's expanding, but it's expanding spherically, and when it happens, 652 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:44.319 it's expanding so fast that it the expansion itself produces friction, 653 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.119 and that friction is brought from without the system. It's 654 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:50.000 outside of the system, comes into the fusive system. The 655 00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:52.440 friction then makes it get hotter faster, which makes it 656 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:54.799 expand even faster, which adds more friction, which makes it 657 00:29:54.839 --> 00:30:00.240 hotter faster. So you get this runaway expansion. It may 658 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.480 not be as simple as just saying it's friction, but 659 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:04.240 I think that that might be the phenomenon of like 660 00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:05.039 I mean, yeah. 661 00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:06.559 I think that's the idea, right, is that you're taking 662 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:08.839 this kinetic energy and you're able to then convert this 663 00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.279 to electric energy. The way they describe it, like the 664 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:13.720 CEO of helium fusion would describe it, says, it's high 665 00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:17.000 beta values is high magnetic field compression. I think it 666 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:20.920 says like a bat a biotic. I forget, how do 667 00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:24.920 you say compression? And I guess this is the part 668 00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:27.039 where people like struggle with this concept because it's so 669 00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:29.880 different than what we've been led to believe from the 670 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:31.640 public perspective of like, oh, we're. 671 00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.279 Trying to make this star right. 672 00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:36.279 And the benefit of his approach is they use a 673 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:41.160 pulse approach as well, so they minimize the total input energy. 674 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:43.279 So instead of like trying to like focus this huge 675 00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.519 amount of energy to make ignition happen, they're like, no, 676 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:47.799 we're just gonna hit it with this small pulse, and 677 00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:49.920 then we're going to try to recuperate as much of 678 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:52.000 the energy pulse as we can as well, just like 679 00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:54.880 with like with an electric car, with like how the 680 00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:58.319 breaking in the electric car like recuperates the energy, same. 681 00:30:58.240 --> 00:30:59.000 Kind of concept. 682 00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:02.440 And so I just even if I didn't believe that 683 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.359 they were on the right track, I would still be 684 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:06.640 like supportive of what they're doing because they're thinking outside 685 00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:08.759 the box about the problem. They're going, Hey, it's not 686 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:10.559 really just a matter of trying to get to ignition. 687 00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.759 What if we make our system super efficient, because once 688 00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:15.839 we get to a point where we're getting more energy 689 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:17.839 out of this fusion system, then we're getting it that 690 00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.119 we're putting into it. Then we just have to scale 691 00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:22.400 it up right, because then you just have you have 692 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:24.519 infinite energy. Once you get to over unity, you're good. 693 00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:25.880 It doesn't matter if you have ignition or not. 694 00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:31.000 Right, Yeah, when you're talking about getting a system started 695 00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.640 with like just impulses, I think of that when I'm 696 00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.880 lighting my incense with a lighter. You can click the 697 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.720 lighter and have the flame there and just hold the 698 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.680 stick and just run all that fire and you're gonna 699 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.960 get that stick lit eventually. Or you can burst it 700 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:47.400 and just tap it with flame and it'll get really 701 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:49.559 really hot, really fascinating. Let go, and you can use 702 00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:51.039 like a third or a fifth of the of the 703 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:55.319 fuel to get it lit. It's just about efficiency of fuel, 704 00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.480 efficiency of input heat. You don't need to lather your 705 00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.519 system excessive amounts of heat to get it hot. You 706 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:03.119 can pulse it. 707 00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:05.960 And that's what Tim Poole was saying. Actually, he said 708 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:08.880 I'll probably never forget that. He said, free energy is 709 00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.720 about efficiency, right. If we could get energy, if we 710 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:16.000 could have energy that's even just ten times less or 711 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.440 more efficient, less expensive than what. 712 00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:21.920 We have right now. It would change everything to everything 713 00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:23.720 about the world. That's what free energy is really about. 714 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:25.720 Everybody thinks of it as like free energy is like 715 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.839 energy is going to cause zero but it's not even 716 00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.920 about that. And it's also not about producing something that 717 00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:35.240 you know, produces energy from nothing at all. It's about efficiency. 718 00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.799 It's about getting a system, designing any system, you know, 719 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.559 the square system, that you're getting more out of it 720 00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:42.640 than what you're putting into it if you've done that, 721 00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:44.319 and like. 722 00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.519 Can people even get access to it? You know, that's 723 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:48.519 another aspect of is that energy free? Because if someone 724 00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:50.759 in a laboratory has unlimited electricity but no one else 725 00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:52.720 can use it, it's not really free energy. You know, 726 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.720 freedom really means like can people use it? Is it 727 00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.200 accessible to people? Is it efficient in that it is 728 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.319 easily utilized by the pop less? 729 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:02.839 And that's what I wanted to ask you next, which 730 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:05.359 is do you think they'll ever let us have this? 731 00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.759 Because you know, just long story short, I dug into it, 732 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:11.319 they're definitely hiding fusion. Like and it's kind of silly 733 00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:13.359 when you think about it, because you go, we've had 734 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.519 the fusion bomb since the sixties, but we can't figure 735 00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:17.240 fusion out. 736 00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.000 Like what am I missing here? The sixties was like 737 00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.839 a long time ago. So they figured the fusion bomb out, 738 00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.079 but they just couldn't figure out how to get energy 739 00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:26.640 from it like this is. 740 00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:28.839 So the question is are they going to give it 741 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:30.680 to us? And why or why not? 742 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.559 This is I think every time we hang out this 743 00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:36.319 we talk about this, and we like keep asking each 744 00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.200 other this question because it's like I think I want 745 00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:39.839 you to be like, oh, yeah, everyone's gonna be I 746 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:42.599 don't know, it's dangerous obviously. This is like where I 747 00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.400 come through is like how explosive is the potential force? 748 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.799 Like what if some idiot monkey drops it on the ground, 749 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:49.640 are we all gonna die? Because if that's the case, 750 00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:51.839 you can't give it to every idiot monkey. No offense 751 00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:53.839 to the monkeys out there. The hominid species is a 752 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:59.160 descend it from apes according to genealogy records, and people 753 00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:01.680 are a make accent and they sometimes fall down or 754 00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:03.599 mess up or get angry and do stupid shit. So 755 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:08.320 I'm I'm not totally against like not giving every piece 756 00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.719 of information to everyone. I'm okay with with that. I 757 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.800 don't know, if fusion is necessarily the answer to thriving 758 00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:17.840 is a species. But I do believe energy efficiency is 759 00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:20.280 I'm more interested in hydrogen, which I I'd like to 760 00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.639 talk about too. But where's your mind do you think? 761 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:26.400 Then? Where's the line? Right? Like, where's the line between 762 00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:31.199 national security then and like the public good? Right? 763 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:35.119 I mean, if you can make the justification that well, sorry, 764 00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.840 guys can't have fusion because you can make bombs that 765 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.119 can annihilate the planet. And I think you could, in fact, 766 00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:42.360 I think that's probably what's gonna happen. That's just my 767 00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:44.800 personal opinion. But you know, where do you draw the 768 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:46.679 line then in a scenario like that? And I think 769 00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:51.519 that does or maybe I actually does that explain the 770 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.360 certain the whole situation that we have with the UFO. 771 00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:58.519 Phenomenon right now? Like why is this whole thing such 772 00:34:58.559 --> 00:34:59.360 a huge mess? 773 00:34:59.559 --> 00:34:59.679 Is it? 774 00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:01.880 Because because whatever it is that they're hiding is so 775 00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:05.559 dangerous that like there's a serious moral question over whether 776 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:06.880 or not it can be allowed to be given to 777 00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:07.320 the public. 778 00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:11.360 That maybe like if they have fusion generators on those things, 779 00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:13.119 I don't think they do, because if one of them 780 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.440 gets knocked down, that would be like the cat is 781 00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:17.360 out of the bag. It's such a risk to put 782 00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:20.199 one on board. But if they're not on board, how 783 00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.239 would they be powering it like by laser from a 784 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.400 base station and moving it around like a magnet or 785 00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:26.239 something could be? 786 00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:26.960 Could be? 787 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.400 I mean that is Bob Greenier literally thinks that, Yeah, 788 00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:30.840 like with the ORBS and that ma A Street seven 789 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:31.440 zero video. 790 00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:32.639 He thinks they're using like. 791 00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:36.800 Satellites and shooting lasers to create like interferometry to shoot 792 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.480 them around. Now, I think they are on board, And 793 00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:41.239 in fact, I would say I think some of that 794 00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.880 that has happened before. I don't think like they've shot 795 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.039 down like a plasma ball and then they were like, 796 00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:47.519 oh we got this plasma ball. 797 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.800 But like there's a drone called the RQ one seven zero. 798 00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:53.119 I don't know if you've ever heard of that, but 799 00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:58.159 during the twenty eleven under Obama, Iran hacked this drone 800 00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.719 and they they claim they hacked it. The Obama administration 801 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:03.840 denied it, and then they like posted pictures of it 802 00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:05.400 and you're like, oh, well, that is definitely the RQ 803 00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:07.840 one seven zero drone, And then they made their own 804 00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.000 version of it, and I kind of wonder looking at it. 805 00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.800 I was reading through the other day, like everything about 806 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.880 it's classified, so we don't even really know exactly what 807 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.320 propulsion like they had. They suspect there's a certain kind 808 00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.760 of engine they were using. But what I found is 809 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.880 that these fusion engines they kind of use a Z 810 00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:25.679 pinch type mechanism. They call it dense plasma focus, but 811 00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.159 it's like a Z pinch mechanism. All they've done is 812 00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.239 they turn that the turbine the engine. They just remove 813 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.199 the turbine from the engine and they turn this into 814 00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:35.480 like a tube that's a heat exchange. So you put 815 00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.800 these magnets along the edges of it. They're like opposite polarity, 816 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.159 and then this could just cause like any electron that 817 00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:42.719 goes through it, or plasma that goes through it like 818 00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.280 slows down, and I think they use like a helical motion, 819 00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.639 so it creates the plasmoid in the middle of it, 820 00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:50.400 and then the plasmoid creates the jets that come out 821 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:51.559 of it, just like if you were looking at a 822 00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:54.360 neutron star and they just angle it. So those jets 823 00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.760 are the propulsion, Like that's how you fly around. So 824 00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:59.000 if you shot that down like you could figure out 825 00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:01.599 the science behind it, But I don't know if you're 826 00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:04.039 going to figure out like fusion immediately. You know, it's 827 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:05.159 a slightly different concept. 828 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.559 It sounds like rifling, like the way that they built 829 00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.199 they carve the spherical or the spiral into the engine 830 00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:19.199 to create either accuracy essentially plasmoidal accuracy trajection and very 831 00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:20.320 similar to how they built rifles. 832 00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.719 Did Yeah, did you know that when they uh some 833 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:26.840 of the plasma fusion nuclear fusion scientists like there's a 834 00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:28.960 couple of shapes that keep coming up, toroids or one 835 00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.719 of them, but helical motion is another one that comes 836 00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:34.639 up all the time as well, like this vortex motion. 837 00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:36.320 So it wouldn't surprise me at all if there is 838 00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.760 literally a connection with like you know, guns and the 839 00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:41.480 and the helix motion of like the bullets and things 840 00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:42.119 like that as well. 841 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:46.079 You nort now is the hydrogen revolution that it sounds 842 00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:48.159 like is like right around the corner. For the last 843 00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:51.000 fifty years out of Rice University, they're doing this graphene study. 844 00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:53.159 I talked with Jim Tour who's like one of the 845 00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.519 head scientists down there working on it, and they figured 846 00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:58.519 out this process called flash jewel heating where they'll take 847 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.599 the electrocute carbon, any kind of carbon, trash, plastic, dirt, whatever. 848 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:04.480 They put it in a vacuum and they electrocute it 849 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:08.000 with seven thousand degree pulses of electricity and it breaks 850 00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:10.440 it apart, and then it cools down and reforms into 851 00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:12.679 its most stable form, which is the hexagon, which is 852 00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.719 the graphene start structure. And so you get this powder, 853 00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:20.119 black powder, graphene, bulk graphene, and it gives off hydrogen byproduct. 854 00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:23.199 And so for every kilogram of hydrogen that's released, you 855 00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:25.800 get about four dollars and fifty cents worth of graphene. 856 00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:29.519 So they've inverted the cost. It used to cost money 857 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:34.159 to produce hydrogen. Now you receive, well, you receive product 858 00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.199 to produce the hydrogen. So after the cost of electricity induction, 859 00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:39.599 you get four dollars and fifty cents in return for 860 00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:43.639 every kilogram of fuel hydrogen fuel you've produced. And he's saying, 861 00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.079 our methane system across the United States is ready to 862 00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:49.960 introduce the hydrogen for cars for fuel, So if we 863 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.760 want to start fueling our car. It sounds like they 864 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:56.280 have contracts with the Department of Defense. He said that 865 00:38:56.440 --> 00:39:00.840 we're on the cusp of a hydrogen revolution. Fuel wise, 866 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:04.360 I could see like a hybrid petroleum hydrogen cars where 867 00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:05.360 you can pump one or the other. 868 00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.360 I don't know, I think that they well, I mean, 869 00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:11.360 my sources have told me that there's companies that were 870 00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:15.280 already in the hydrogen game producing hydrogen. I didn't hear 871 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.719 exactly how they were doing it. But once you open 872 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:21.400 the door to solve the infusion, like and just what 873 00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.679 we've already spoken to, like cimatics understanding the ether. If 874 00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:28.239 you can create coherent shapes, now you can do alchemy. 875 00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.800 Now you can produce any element that you potentially want, 876 00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.239 and you can potentially do it at very low energy costs. 877 00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:37.119 Yeah go, yeah. 878 00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:38.920 So the last time I was to say is that 879 00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:41.440 part of low energy nuclear reactions. I did this interview 880 00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:45.480 with eng eight low energy fusion company, and one of 881 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.639 the claims they made was that they could potentially produce 882 00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:51.760 hydrogen at a much lower energy cost than what the 883 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:53.480 conventional approach would be to it. 884 00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:53.719 Too. 885 00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:55.559 So you kind of have to keep your eyes open 886 00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:57.960 on some of these companies, Like you know, if you 887 00:39:58.039 --> 00:39:59.599 were to look at it, they may just look like 888 00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:02.400 completely conventional company, but they might then be doing using 889 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:06.440 some of these electromagnetic physics type concepts to really be 890 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.960 making more money than what you would be possible otherwise. 891 00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:11.320 When I think about fusion, I think of the big 892 00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:14.119 ask that it's like, all right, this is okay. I'm 893 00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.000 from nineteen seventy nine. I'm cynical. That's just the way 894 00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:19.239 it was. Growing up in Ohio in the eighties. Our 895 00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.519 team Cleveland Brown's always lost was all we were always 896 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:24.880 it never worked out. I had to chag break out 897 00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:27.360 of that mindset. But I'm like, that's what feels like 898 00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:29.440 with fusion. It's like we're never going to get I 899 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:30.599 don't want to say it. I don't even want to 900 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.320 joke about it because I don't want to manifest it's happening. Obviously, 901 00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:36.480 we're getting fusion. People are fusing things. But do you 902 00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.360 think it's actually reasonably going to be like a power 903 00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:41.480 source in the next thirty years for the common man? 904 00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.559 Yeah, I mean it exists, I'll tell you that much. 905 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:47.679 Are they going to give it to us? That's the 906 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.039 bigger question. And I think that they are away in 907 00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.360 exactly what you just said, which is their way in 908 00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.880 the question of what's the risk of somebody using this 909 00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:57.840 and creating a weapon that wipes us all out, and 910 00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.159 can we stop it if they do? And do we 911 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:03.360 have the deterrence in place to do it? But absolutely 912 00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:05.119 I think not only are we gonna get fusion, I 913 00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:06.719 think it's gonna get a lot weirder than that, is 914 00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:08.400 that one of the first things that is probably gonna 915 00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:09.920 happen is we're gonna have to start coming up with 916 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:12.760 new new names for some of these energy sources. Maybe 917 00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:14.840 the hydrogen Revolution sounds like a good way. Maybe we 918 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:16.880 just call it that, honestly, because I think it's gonna 919 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:20.800 be more all encompassing. We're gonna see like fusion companies 920 00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.239 like Helium that aren't even doing ignition, that are producing 921 00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:26.519 excess energy, and people are gonna be seeing they're wondering 922 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.599 how I mean. I was watching a debunker person who's 923 00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:32.960 like a nuclear physicists themselves, and they were like listening 924 00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:34.960 to the CEO of Heli and Fusion. They're wondering how 925 00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.519 all these claims can be possible when these people are 926 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:38.239 struggling to make. 927 00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:39.360 A tokamac reactor, you know. 928 00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.159 But then you're also gonna see stuff like free energy 929 00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:46.000 microchips at the same time, like our low power devices 930 00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:48.880 everything up to like a cell phone. In the next 931 00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:51.280 five or ten years, like they're gonna be rolling out 932 00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.559 free energy microschips, Like these devices just aren't gonna be 933 00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:55.840 running out of energy anymore. And people are gonna be like, 934 00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:57.960 how is that possible? And they're gonna come up with them. 935 00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.440 They're gonna call it like like I've been joking, they're 936 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:02.199 gonna call like space juice. They're gonna come up with 937 00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:03.920 some stupid, like made up name they're gonna call. 938 00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:06.599 It's just harnessing space juice. Don't ask questions, right like, 939 00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:08.159 and yeah, okay. 940 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:11.599 It'll be like juice tapping into the piezo electric vibration 941 00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:13.440 of the ether or something. 942 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:16.280 It's gonna sound something like really technical, you know, and 943 00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:17.960 then that's what they'll say, and then everyone'll just be like, 944 00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:20.400 I don't question why my phone never has to run 945 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:21.760 out of energy anymore, you know. 946 00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.920 You know, sub atomic piazo electrics is a fascinating concept. 947 00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:26.960 I mean, just piezo electric in general that you can 948 00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.920 use like tensive vibration to get an electrical charge. And 949 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:32.639 then if you can scale that down at the to 950 00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:35.880 the micro chip level, the chips themselves power just just 951 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:40.599 by atmospheric you know, indenture create their own conductivity. 952 00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:44.159 There's probably like at least three different ways to do 953 00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.719 free energy from the micro scale that I found. One 954 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.000 is using the Casimir effect, which Sunny White has been doing, 955 00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:52.199 and I think Garrett Model at the University of Colorado 956 00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:55.760 Paul Thibodeau is using like a thermal effect, like the 957 00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:59.519 thermal changes is vibrations, and even it can be in 958 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:03.519 a stationary temperature, but just the thermal just vibrations. Brownie 959 00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:06.519 in motion he made a microchip that basically just harnesses 960 00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:10.039 that as well. So in addition to what you just mentioned, 961 00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:12.480 so there could be a multiple different ways, like the 962 00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:16.800 Pizo electric thing. People, anytime you have like a PhD 963 00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:18.880 physicist come on, especially if you're talking to them like 964 00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:20.719 on Tame Pool on a big show, you should always 965 00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.559 ask them what is electricity? 966 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:23.800 Where does electricity come from? 967 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:27.840 Because Pieso Electricity explains it, like for people who are 968 00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.199 not familiar. Pies electricity is like a quartz crystal. You 969 00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.800 can squeeze the crystal and it'll produce electricity. They use 970 00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:37.519 these in watches low energy devices, right, because you can 971 00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.480 just shake your watch and now you get electricity. The 972 00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:42.960 reason why that happens is when you squeeze the crystal, 973 00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.559 the positive and the minus charges in the lattice structure 974 00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:49.880 of the crystal separate. Normally, they're in an equilibrium the 975 00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:51.960 positive minuses. Imagine them being next to each other. 976 00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:54.320 When you squeeze the crystal, it pushes them apart a 977 00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:54.800 little bit. 978 00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:58.280 So what is electricity? Well, electricity is just the positive 979 00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.519 and minus charges being separated, just like with the pies 980 00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:03.480 of electricity. So anybody that understands electricity should be able 981 00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:05.480 to tell you at the basic level, all electricity is 982 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.679 is positive and minus charge separated. 983 00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:08.159 Is it? 984 00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:09.119 And we can go ahead? 985 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:11.679 Is it? Because when you separate the positive and minus charge, 986 00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:14.519 the elect they want to come back together, so it 987 00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:16.519 produces an electrical current between them. 988 00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:19.760 Bingo, you nailed it, right, So now you can see like, oh, 989 00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:21.679 if I just look at it like that, then it's 990 00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.880 a completely different view of what electricity even is. Electricity 991 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:27.400 is like a breaking of a symmetry, right, It's like, oh, 992 00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.239 we're stuck in this symmetry. Oh if I just rip 993 00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:33.559 these things apart, oh, now electricity exists, like oh, and 994 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.559 we should be getting taught electricity like that. That's a 995 00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.840 much more logical, intuitive way than like, oh, the power 996 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.079 plant is like producing this electricity and then shooting it 997 00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.440 through the wires and then it's like coming into my 998 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.559 house at the speed of light, which is not how 999 00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:48.239 it actually works. 1000 00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:49.679 It just seems like how it works. 1001 00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.440 Dude. I want to capture lightning. I think that we've 1002 00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.199 been staring at it the whole time. If we can 1003 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.519 produce tethers that can like graphine tethers or some sort 1004 00:44:57.519 --> 00:44:59.800 of meta material that can absorb that can conduct the 1005 00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:03.199 eat into a bay station and then absorb it down 1006 00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.119 at the station, Like you could have these like feathery 1007 00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.519 tethers up in the atmosphere constantly pulling the static charge, 1008 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:10.920 so you'll never actually have lightning strikes anymore, Like you'll 1009 00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:14.840 prevent them and you'll just be absorbing the current. And 1010 00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.239 then it's just about having a battery that can capacitate it. 1011 00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:19.719 I think it's even easier than that. It's like, where's 1012 00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:22.360 the electricity from the lightning strikes? Even coming from a 1013 00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:23.119 deep space. 1014 00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:25.360 If you see those above, if you ever watch above 1015 00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:28.599 the clouds, those those those sprites they call them, that 1016 00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.400 go just God knows where out into the next the 1017 00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.519 next realm of galaxy or whatever. 1018 00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:37.679 And I'm not like, I like the electric universe theory. 1019 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:38.719 I think there's some problems with it. 1020 00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:40.199 But that was one of the fun things that I 1021 00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.719 learned from is that I like to hearing other people's 1022 00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:44.239 point of views, because then you hear like, are the 1023 00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.079 what are the electric universe? People say about like the 1024 00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:49.079 standard model and their view, And one of the biggin 1025 00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:51.159 ones that go is like, where's all this energy for 1026 00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:52.440 all these lightning strikes coming from? 1027 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:54.639 Like where else on this planet equilibrium? 1028 00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.039 Well, those are a huge amount of energy coming from 1029 00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:59.840 and so of course they claim it's coming from the 1030 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.280 lactric currents that are connecting the Earth and the Sun 1031 00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.519 and all the other planets and the solarcism, which I 1032 00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:06.679 think actually makes a lot of sense. But then the 1033 00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.000 point is whatever electricity is, whatever is causing those lightning 1034 00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:11.719 strikes that happen, we should be able to tap into that, 1035 00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:12.440 We should be able. 1036 00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:12.800 To harness that. 1037 00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:17.039 I mean, my view is that if energy is mass 1038 00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:20.639 and we can do stuff like the dynamic Kasmir effect 1039 00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:23.119 and just pull light out of the vacuum, then that 1040 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.880 means energy is everywhere. That means we don't even need 1041 00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.239 the sun, and we don't even need to make a sun. 1042 00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:31.039 We can just pull energy theoretically just straight out of 1043 00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:31.679 the vacuum. 1044 00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:35.800 So you're talking dynamic Kasmir effect you're talking about. Is 1045 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.079 it light appearing out of the vacuum? Is that what 1046 00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:41.039 that is? So that it's sort of like sono luminescence, 1047 00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:44.400 where if you create a bubble underwater with a certain vibration, 1048 00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.559 you'll create light. And I think maybe what's happening is 1049 00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:50.519 that the Higgs field. There's a vibration in the Higgs field, 1050 00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:52.920 and that if it hits a certain frequency, it cracks 1051 00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:57.639 and produces photons, and then those they basically it's like 1052 00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.199 the photon is coming through the Higgs field. This is 1053 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:02.320 an old idea I had fifteen years ago. I don't 1054 00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:04.079 know if it's actually real or not. And then that 1055 00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.280 cools down that photose hotons can cool down into matter. 1056 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.760 But I don't that was just a rough kind of 1057 00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:11.519 a sure if I. 1058 00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.239 Mean the Higgs field is it is really like zero 1059 00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.280 point energy, but like with tricycle wheels attached to it, 1060 00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:18.239 you know, it's like they're like. 1061 00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:21.199 The Higgs field explains like one percent of mass. You're like, 1062 00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.519 but that doesn't really explain like anything then does it? 1063 00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:26.320 But it is the idea that, yeah, there are these 1064 00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:30.000 fields that we are living, this structured, this construct, you know, 1065 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:32.079 and so that would be open the door to zero 1066 00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:34.920 point energy and open the door to this you know, 1067 00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.480 space time, flexible solid that can be manipulated. 1068 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:44.039 But if if like you're saying, electricity is produced when 1069 00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:47.280 you pull apart a positive and a negative node and 1070 00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.400 you and it's trying to find itself, trying to pull 1071 00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.920 come back together so it has its current point, then 1072 00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:55.079 then a lightning maybe is that? And so the Earth's 1073 00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:58.039 core would be like the positive or the negative charge, 1074 00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.599 but it's both. I think it's both positive negative. It's 1075 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:03.599 an interesting there's but so what's the capacitor? Right? 1076 00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:06.000 And remember when doctor U was saying, when we were 1077 00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.679 explaining why is gravity and electricity so like, why are 1078 00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:13.159 they the strength so different? And doctor U took his magnets. 1079 00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:14.760 He took a string of magnets and the string of 1080 00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.360 magnets can pick up the balls, right, But once you start. 1081 00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:20.360 Folding the magnets over, you're equalizing the charges. 1082 00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:22.280 And what's happening now is that now all of a sudden, 1083 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:24.360 the magnet can't pick up any balls anymore because it 1084 00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:25.320 got so much weaker. 1085 00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:29.599 So the earth is also a magnet. And so why 1086 00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:29.880 are we. 1087 00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:32.440 Seeing the electricity, you know, strike down from the sky 1088 00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:34.840 to the earth. Is that you're seeing this this vult, 1089 00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.719 this potential difference. And as that potential difference builds up, 1090 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:41.239 eventually it gets so strong that zapp you know, theus, 1091 00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:43.440 the minus and the positive decide that it can break 1092 00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.960 through the insulator. What's the insulator? The insulator is the air. 1093 00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:49.280 The air is the insulator. In this case, air is 1094 00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:51.639 actually an insulator. We have to remember that even the 1095 00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:52.599 air is a medium. 1096 00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:54.760 So that's why we don't. 1097 00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:56.800 See electric strikes. Well, that's why we do see the 1098 00:48:56.840 --> 00:49:01.800 electric strikes. And here's another one for you. The lightning 1099 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.199 is a plasma because what is a plasma. All a 1100 00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:09.760 plasma is is a positive charge and a negative charge separated, 1101 00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:13.360 ripping the electron off the atom leaven behind a positively 1102 00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:17.440 charged ion and a negatively charged electron. So when you 1103 00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:22.559 separate these out, are we just creating electricity directly when 1104 00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:24.920 we do that? And this is why I always thought 1105 00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:27.559 like the whole idea of fusion using plasma like it 1106 00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:31.679 should be direct energy conversion, because literally electricity is just 1107 00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:35.280 a separation of positive and minus charge. Now Here's one 1108 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:37.360 of one of the things I'll thought I'll leave you 1109 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:41.079 with on this is that the electric universe theory. One 1110 00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:43.920 of their big questions is why is there a plasma 1111 00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:47.559 corona around the sun. Shouldn't plasma if it's positive and 1112 00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:50.840 negative charges separated, shouldn't it try to come back together 1113 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.719 and equalize. But if that was the case, then we 1114 00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:56.320 shouldn't see this corona around the sun at all. There 1115 00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.800 shouldn't be in a difference of positive negative charges being 1116 00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:02.519 so separated from one another. So clearly I think there 1117 00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:03.760 must be something else going on. 1118 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:06.320 I think it's that similar thing with what John Kansas 1119 00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:08.400 learned in his experimentations in the lab, is that there's 1120 00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:11.239 a frequency running through the sun that's lighting it up. 1121 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:13.800 It's causing it to give off the flame. That's what 1122 00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.360 the corona is. It's exactly like his experiment. If you 1123 00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:19.519 watch that video John Kansas, it's k n s us 1124 00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:21.519 It's like a two thousand and seven video of him 1125 00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.239 running a free He tells you what frequency it is 1126 00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:27.239 to run it through saltwater get that hydrogen flame, that's 1127 00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:27.679 my guess. 1128 00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.000 Interesting, So so that. 1129 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:31.400 That would lead to me to believe that that the 1130 00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.119 Sun then has the chemicals make up saltwater. Obviously there's 1131 00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.119 hydrogen in there, there's sodium in there, there's a lot 1132 00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:37.079 of chemicals in the sun. 1133 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:41.559 But it Yeah, and the Sun itself, you know, maybe 1134 00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:43.920 it just reaches a certain critical mass and then I mean, 1135 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:46.199 that's I think that the standard theory holds, right, You 1136 00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:48.159 just have this huge amount of mass and then you 1137 00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:50.679 have this critical event happen, and yes, then we get 1138 00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.800 ignition to occur, and then what's happening inside the sun. 1139 00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.000 There's actually a lot of theories about that that, you know, 1140 00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:59.840 could be something related. Vibration planks constant is like what 1141 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:03.719 we imagine like the smallest possible vibrational. 1142 00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:05.800 Scale that's out there. That could be a cut off point. 1143 00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.039 That's where they uses the cut off point for calculating 1144 00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:10.000 the zero point energy. 1145 00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:12.199 Actually, so there could be a connection to that. The 1146 00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.000 other idea is that maybe the Sun is. 1147 00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.519 Like a lattice structure, like maybe it's more like a 1148 00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:20.360 solid like when you get inside of it, maybe everything's 1149 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.159 so compact that it's almost like a crystal structure, and 1150 00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:24.639 so then what could be happening would be more like 1151 00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:26.880 pies of electricity, or like maybe you have like this 1152 00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.960 vibrational like lattice structure inside the sun in the middle 1153 00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:31.519 of it, which. 1154 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:33.599 I that's a cool idea that would make sense as 1155 00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:37.159 to why a frequency would cause some sort of dissertation 1156 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.199 like that. I think that's the right word. I like 1157 00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:39.519 the way it. 1158 00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:41.880 Sounds because it's a resonance effect, right. It'd be like, oh, 1159 00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:43.559 if you hit it with a frequency, then you're going 1160 00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:45.679 to see some type of counter resonance effect, just like 1161 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:49.599 the photoelectric effect, which was like when we shot light 1162 00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:53.440 at a metal, we did not see a significant difference 1163 00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:55.400 when we increased the brightness of the light, but we 1164 00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:58.360 saw a difference when we increased the wavelength when we 1165 00:51:58.519 --> 00:51:58.840 changed the. 1166 00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:00.920 Color of the light that hits it. So it goes 1167 00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.199 to show, Yeah, resonance effects are what really seems to 1168 00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:06.559 explain the universe. 1169 00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:10.599 I think that comes from how photons interfere with surface plasma. 1170 00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:14.239 They seem to refract off of the surface plasma at 1171 00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:16.880 the center of every plasma cloud and transfer information, so 1172 00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:19.360 that I think that's how light transfers information to plasma 1173 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:23.199 and if you look deeply into surface plasma in the 1174 00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:25.079 way that it changes the red and the blue shift 1175 00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:27.679 of the plasma fields, but depending on how the light 1176 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:28.800 is interfering with it. 1177 00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.000 So the plasma front, let's see, is there anything else 1178 00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.480 I want to touch on on that front? So yeah, 1179 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.000 the other thing I was going to touch on is 1180 00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:43.280 the dense Plasma focused paper that I discussed i think 1181 00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:46.159 on the podcast that we did together, which was finding 1182 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.599 out that they were taking these plasmas and they were 1183 00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:51.000 trying to turn them into drones or you know, trying 1184 00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.880 to turn it into a propulsion concept very clearly in 1185 00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:59.639 the papers. And so plasmoids have another name. They're called 1186 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:03.639 few reverse configuration FRC. This is actually what they're called 1187 00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:07.440 by Helia in Fusion as well as TAE. They came 1188 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.480 up with a new name for them, which are apparently 1189 00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:13.519 just terroidal plasmas that are being shot together at one another. 1190 00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:19.440 These frcs, they have a distinct characteristic. They have a 1191 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:23.519 spheremac shape, so they're shaped like a plasma sphere, but 1192 00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:26.440 they also have axial jets that shoot out of them 1193 00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:28.840 because they're creating that plasmoid in the center. They have 1194 00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:29.840 these axial jets. 1195 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:32.239 So at some point the Air Force, and I don't 1196 00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:34.159 know who the first person was to think about it, 1197 00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:36.440 but I'm pretty sure it's this guy Frank Mead, They 1198 00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.599 were like, oh, well, if there's these axial jets, we 1199 00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:41.400 can use this as propulsion and then we can have 1200 00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:44.400 now some type of thing that's flying around. I think 1201 00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.880 that the thing that really took off was when they 1202 00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:49.559 were able to turn into a drone. When you're like, okay, now, 1203 00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:52.039 like having a plasma propulsion is one thing. Great, you 1204 00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:54.679 got plasma flying everywhere, but that doesn't sound very safe. 1205 00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:56.000 You don't want to be I wouldn't want to be 1206 00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:58.760 near on a plasma a fusion reactor, you know, flying around. 1207 00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:01.239 But one once you turn into a drone, now you 1208 00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:03.800 have no problem. Now no human needs to be near 1209 00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.960 it anymore. So this is where I personally my view, 1210 00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.519 I'm curious about your opinion that I think they figured 1211 00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:12.480 out these plasma drones and they've been flying them around 1212 00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.679 for I don't know, ten twenty years, maybe longer, who knows, 1213 00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:18.719 And that's why I don't know how far back it goes, 1214 00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:21.840 and people are seeing them in the sky and they're going, Okay, 1215 00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:25.000 there's a light in the sky flying around I basically 1216 00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:27.360 anybody who sees that's going to think it's an alien, right, 1217 00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:31.360 And now they're going, oh, UFO alien. And then this 1218 00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:34.679 seems to coincide in the last let's say ten years 1219 00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:38.840 with this like emergence of balls of energy balls of 1220 00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:41.079 light that everybody's talking about. Even Louel Zando wrote in 1221 00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:43.119 his book about three balls of energy and three balls 1222 00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.679 of light. So my opinion is that they governments figured 1223 00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:47.920 this out. I don't know, Maybe they figured out from aliens. 1224 00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:50.559 Maybe they didn't, not sure. What do you think about 1225 00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:54.519 the idea that like humans could have figured this technology out? 1226 00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:56.320 This is like the biggest point of contention in the 1227 00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:59.599 UFO community right now is like could humans have figured 1228 00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:01.840 this techniclogy? How could we have reverse engineered it? Or 1229 00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.440 does it have to be aliens because you know, we 1230 00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:07.039 can't understand this alien physics. 1231 00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:11.159 Human all human. If we can figure out electricity, we 1232 00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:15.840 can figure out anything, dude. Any this is warping shit. 1233 00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.280 It's I think a lot of it is talking plasma, 1234 00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:21.519 which is a term they gave to this idea that 1235 00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:25.320 you can triangulate or hit a point in time into 1236 00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:28.360 space time time. It's funny. A point in time where 1237 00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:30.480 you'll hit it with a bunch of like lasers or 1238 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:32.400 something creates a ball plasma and then you move that 1239 00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:35.039 around like a laser pointer and then it flies and 1240 00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:37.039 how does it move so fast? And it's like, well, 1241 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:39.000 it's because it's a it's an illusion that we're created. 1242 00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.360 It's a ball of plasma. But then now you're talking 1243 00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:44.840 about plasma drones. I don't know. And now I'm just 1244 00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:48.039 thinking of actual autonomous balls of plasma that are using 1245 00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:51.159 their own jets to maneuver, that are being maybe given 1246 00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:53.440 information from the base station. But how would they be 1247 00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:56.760 being produced either an onboard fusion. Then you're talking do 1248 00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:58.960 they have on board power or are they being created 1249 00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:00.559 by this talking fusion? 1250 00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:04.679 Yeah, I remember, like a year and a half ago, 1251 00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:06.639 I was thinking that they were creating them the same 1252 00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:08.360 way that you just mentioned with the talking plasma, which 1253 00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:10.800 I read which is honestly amazing. The talking plasma thing 1254 00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:12.480 they can do. I mean, the fact they get it 1255 00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.679 to literally talk to you means they can modulate the 1256 00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:17.960 frequency and the and the standing wave of it to 1257 00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.360 like at will, like constantly it's a very impressive thing 1258 00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:23.840 that they can do that. Then in my mind, they 1259 00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:26.639 can make their plasma ball like whatever size they want 1260 00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:28.800 and need it to be, and it wouldn't take that 1261 00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:30.440 much onboard fuel to make it happen. 1262 00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:33.119 I think that though, that what like the plasma. 1263 00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:35.239 Drone would look like would probably be like a tube 1264 00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:37.239 with a bunch of stuff hooked up to it, and 1265 00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.239 then once you like shoot it, and then it just 1266 00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:41.519 spins up. And once it spins up, it's just it's 1267 00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:43.400 a plasma ball now, and it just looks like a 1268 00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:47.639 plasma ball until it's turned off. And but I a 1269 00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:50.000 lot of people believe that these orbs can be like 1270 00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:53.400 shot out of like a cannon, like you shoot a 1271 00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:56.480 plasma can like a plasma sphere out of a cannon, 1272 00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:59.000 and now it's just like a self contained structure and 1273 00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:02.480 it's self contained until it dissipates, which it's it's stabilized 1274 00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:04.320 so it won't dissipate it or it has like a 1275 00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.559 very long life span. And then this would be the 1276 00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:09.679 idea of like the ether and simatics, where like you've 1277 00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:12.880 created this geometric shape where it's like a perfect geometric 1278 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.679 shape that just doesn't lose any energy and is able to. 1279 00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:16.360 Keep its form. 1280 00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:18.960 I kind of struggle with that because, like especially in 1281 00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:20.840 like them a Streets of Zero videos, these things are 1282 00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:22.679 clearly moving with some intelligent control. 1283 00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:25.039 It's not just oh, shoot it over that way, right, 1284 00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:28.159 it's like homing in on things and locking in. But 1285 00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:29.079 I don't know, what do you think? 1286 00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:33.559 Well, while you were talking about shooting a plasma drone, 1287 00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:36.239 as that would be your bullet would be the drone itself. 1288 00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:38.679 I'm thinking of like a coil, just like the rifling 1289 00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:41.599 we were talking about. Maybe it would be a series 1290 00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:44.639 of rings, but it would give that that forward momentum 1291 00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:48.000 of spin that would allow for some sort of energy 1292 00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:51.360 propagation that could maybe blow it up like a plasma 1293 00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:54.760 balloon for the for the you know excerpt for the 1294 00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:57.360 for the journey that it has to go to until 1295 00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:01.079 it either dissipates or hits its target. Maybe maybe the 1296 00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:03.239 idea that because I was yeah, the idea that you 1297 00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:05.480 would use that as the bullet itself and not the 1298 00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:06.440 gun is pretty cool. 1299 00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.239 Yeah, yeah, and that's something I had never really thought of. 1300 00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:13.079 But that Okay, you've got these plasma bullets, and now 1301 00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:14.719 you might be able to use them for multi things 1302 00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:18.760 as well. I mean they probably originated as like you said, 1303 00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:24.920 like spoofing mechanisms, right, because some of these pilots when 1304 00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:27.840 they see these UFOs, they don't see them on radar, 1305 00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:30.000 but then they'll see them like briefly show up. And 1306 00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:31.480 this is I think where some of this idea of 1307 00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:35.920 always this spoofy mechanism. Well, the plasma actually will reflect radar, 1308 00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:37.880 but if you were to change the wavelength of the 1309 00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.440 plasma for a brief second, it may actually be it 1310 00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:42.039 may show up, so it could look like it's like 1311 00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:45.400 a ghost out there. But then you can turn it 1312 00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:48.480 like plasma itself is a physical phenomenon. It's not just 1313 00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:51.519 an illusion, right, It's not necessarily just a hologram. So 1314 00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:53.480 if you can turn it into that, now you've turned 1315 00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:58.440 into a weapon. Because once again, what is electricity. Electricity 1316 00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:00.679 is just a separation of positive is charged. 1317 00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:02.719 So if you can control that, if you can spin 1318 00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:04.960 that up into a ball plasma that can shoot around, 1319 00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:07.679 now you've got a literally lightning ball like you're zeus 1320 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:10.039 now like shooting lightning nut battle on people. 1321 00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:12.199 If it's like if it's just like what we're talking 1322 00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:14.360 about electricity, you're pulling apart the positive and the negative, 1323 00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:17.440 so gas either you're heating it up it's or you're 1324 00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:21.000 destroying the You're removing the pressure, so the gas expands faster. 1325 00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:23.639 It'll be easier to get it hotter, it'll be easier 1326 00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:26.320 to pull the proton and the electron away from it 1327 00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:29.920 because it's less pressure or getting it hotter. So if 1328 00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:32.199 you can in it within like the bullet of this 1329 00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:35.920 plasma torsion, if you can reduce the pressure or enhance 1330 00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:38.280 the temperature, you might be able to produce an electrical 1331 00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:41.280 charge that way. 1332 00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:44.199 And you know what the thing was that took off. 1333 00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:46.280 It was the lasers is what allowed this to all 1334 00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:46.800 take off. 1335 00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:52.159 When you even look at Helium's field re verse configuration reactor, 1336 00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:55.679 they shoot these plasmoids at each other's smok rings of 1337 00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:59.239 plasma and then they shoot these like neutral laser beam injectors. 1338 00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.480 And the thing that allowed this all take off was 1339 01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:03.480 that they got these lasers to be super powerful. This 1340 01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:07.239 chirped pulse amplification Nobel Prize twenty seventeen. 1341 01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:09.039 That's where they found these. 1342 01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:10.800 They were able to come up with these atto second 1343 01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:14.639 lasers because the smaller the time frame that you fit 1344 01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:17.079 the energy into the more the energy density goes up. 1345 01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:20.559 It's not just the region in the space that you 1346 01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:23.559 want small, but the time region. The time of the 1347 01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:26.519 laser gets smaller, the pulse gets smaller, the energy density 1348 01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:27.360 goes up, and. 1349 01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:30.280 That's how they're able to get these plasmas to reach 1350 01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:33.280 these super high temperatures supposedly. So it wouldn't surprise me 1351 01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:37.440 if like the military had this laser technology that allowed 1352 01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:39.400 plasma and all this stuff to happen, and then of 1353 01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:42.440 course they just classified it because it's all weapons related 1354 01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:43.880 related nukes. 1355 01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:46.400 You know, I would have classified it if I built 1356 01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:47.800 it in the if I was working for the government 1357 01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:49.360 and built that, I'd be like, all right, well for now, 1358 01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:51.320 because they're probably all like airing on the side of caution. 1359 01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:55.000 And then if the Chinese are like, we have it, 1360 01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:56.559 then we'll be like, well we have it too. I 1361 01:00:56.639 --> 01:01:00.480 guess you know, nobody wants to say it first, yeah. 1362 01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:02.239 We had that, like they're Chinese is gonna be like 1363 01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:04.199 we figured out whorp technology trumps something like we figured 1364 01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:07.800 it out ten years ago. Sorry, you know, And you know, 1365 01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:12.000 if you were like a black project engineer, you worked 1366 01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:15.280 on this, like you know, magic technology alien technology. 1367 01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:16.199 Call it whatever you want to call it. Would you 1368 01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:17.880 come out as a whistleblower? 1369 01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:19.000 You know? 1370 01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:20.199 Yeah? Why are we not? 1371 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:23.360 Not? No? Because that that it's it's it's like life, 1372 01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:25.679 and it's like the Manhattan Project. I wouldn't have I 1373 01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:27.320 wouldn't have blowed the whistle on that either if I 1374 01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:29.039 was working for that. I believe in the ethos of 1375 01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:31.800 the United States free speech, gun rights, property rights. I 1376 01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:33.440 want to do whatever I can to uphold that. If 1377 01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:35.440 it means giving us the best military on the planet, 1378 01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:39.360 giving us an edge, you know, within the AI fusion race, 1379 01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:39.800 I'm down. 1380 01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:43.039 Yeah, you know what I mean. I agree the same way. 1381 01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:44.519 That's why it makes this so hard. Is it like 1382 01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:46.960 I don't even like doing this. But at the same time, 1383 01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:50.840 it's like people deserve to know about this science, about 1384 01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:51.400 the technology. 1385 01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:53.320 That's why the first question is like where is the 1386 01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:56.199 line between this? Because I also want us to have 1387 01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:58.760 this technology. I want America to be the number one country. 1388 01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:01.719 But I also like, in the view of this, you're like, Okay, 1389 01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:06.000 we've got warp drive technology, maybe wormhole technology, gravy manipulation, 1390 01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:11.599 free energy technology. You know, I wonder, you know, how 1391 01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:13.519 we have to be able to get some of this 1392 01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:16.239 to the public people, you know, I mean, at some 1393 01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:18.719 point you can't hide this forever. 1394 01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:23.519 Yeah, relying relying on the government, or just because they're 1395 01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:25.440 deep state and have access to the tech when they 1396 01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:27.000 were kids and now they get to learn about it 1397 01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:28.719 and their dads have money and now they have money. 1398 01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:31.960 Just because they have it doesn't mean that's the best setup. 1399 01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:33.840 It might be better for the populace to have it. 1400 01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:36.599 So and that's the big catch twenty or that. I 1401 01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:37.920 don't know if it's a catch twenty two, but that's 1402 01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:39.679 a big struggle that we're in. Because I agree with you, 1403 01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:41.719 I would I would never go whistleblower either. If I 1404 01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:43.760 was in Black Project, I wouldn't even have a social 1405 01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:45.880 media account. I wouldn't do any of this stuff at all, 1406 01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:49.440 because I do think it harms national security. And I 1407 01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:53.360 think that if certain countries, certain cultures have access to 1408 01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:56.800 this technology, I think the planet's totally definitely doomed, no question. 1409 01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:00.800 But you know, it's a moral conundrum because we are 1410 01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.000 talking about the ability to kind of end poverty. The 1411 01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:07.519 big thing for me is this, if America has this technology, 1412 01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:10.239 why are we not Why we have so many homeless people. 1413 01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:12.440 Why we have so much struggling on this plan. Why 1414 01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:15.639 does our country not look like ancient Rome with like 1415 01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:21.480 you know, colosseums and you know the Renaissance everywhere. You 1416 01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:23.159 know that that to me is the struggle, is that 1417 01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:25.039 I think that at a minimum, we should be able 1418 01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:27.519 to leverage the fact that we have magical technology. 1419 01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:31.400 You know. I think it's because well, one, they want 1420 01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:33.719 to keep it secret. That's the main reason too, is 1421 01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:37.320 because we don't have the batteries yet to capacitate the power, 1422 01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:39.840 Like we can't run well, we have Tesla power walls. 1423 01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:43.760 We're getting there, but like really really good batteries that 1424 01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:45.679 you can charge once and then they run your house 1425 01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:48.519 for sixty days or six hundred years or whatever. You know. Like, 1426 01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:50.800 once we can build the batteries that can super like 1427 01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:54.519 super capacitor batteries you know, graphium, cadmium, whatever the hell 1428 01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:57.000 materials we're going to be using, probably crazy meta material 1429 01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:02.079 cermats and stuff, then I think the fewion will be like, uh, 1430 01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:05.719 what's the word functional, like for the common man once 1431 01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:07.119 they can store the battery, because then you won't have 1432 01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:08.880 to give them the fusion reactor. They'll just be able 1433 01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:12.039 to tap it in, get the power and then benefit. 1434 01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:15.440 See you're thinking about it pragmatically, like they're never gonna 1435 01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:17.280 give us a fusion reactor. We're never gonna get a 1436 01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:19.079 portable fusion reactor. Is then you could just turn it 1437 01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:21.159 on blow somebody up. But I could see they're gonna 1438 01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:22.880 give you a tap, right, They're gonna say here, you 1439 01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:25.159 can tap into the energy and then you can fill 1440 01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:27.519 up your local reserve. But it's not gonna be enough 1441 01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:30.719 to annihilate the planet. You know, something like that where 1442 01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:32.480 I think it was how putoff even talking about this, 1443 01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:35.719 where it's almost as evil as, maybe even more evil 1444 01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:38.679 than how they portrayed in the movies. Where he's like, guys, 1445 01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:41.320 zero point energy is real, it's coming out. This is 1446 01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:45.199 a high risk venture, but its high reward. And he's like, basically, 1447 01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:47.760 everybody knows we can't just give everybody a you know, 1448 01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:49.960 a zero point energy device in their home. The way 1449 01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:53.239 to do it is like when your old generators have 1450 01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:55.400 to be replaced, just throw the old ones out and 1451 01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:59.199 we'll give you new, upgraded reactors and no it we'll 1452 01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:01.400 just never have to explain where that energy is coming from. Right, 1453 01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:03.719 And well, if you save some money on it. Well, 1454 01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:05.880 you don't necessarily have to pass that savings on to 1455 01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:08.360 the consumer, right, how does the consumer you even know 1456 01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:11.679 how much you're you know how much it costs you 1457 01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:14.239 to produce the energy. That's what I think is really 1458 01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:16.199 going on. And that's why I look at companies like 1459 01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:19.199 Heli in Fusion and I'm like, I've identified them as 1460 01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:21.480 like this is a company that the DOE is backing 1461 01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:23.920 and stuff. And then I go, well, why is Peter 1462 01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:26.639 Teel like one of the major investors in this and 1463 01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:28.320 he's connected to the CIA, and. 1464 01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:33.760 Oh yeah Bolenteer too, that's a good sign for Fusion, Okay, yeah, yeah. 1465 01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:35.880 And this is why I tell people like, look, this 1466 01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:40.000 isn't stock advice, but when Helian Fusion goes IPO, just 1467 01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:42.440 go look at Pollenteer stock price and what's happened to 1468 01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:44.920 them as well? You know, It's like it feels like 1469 01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:47.800 some of these companies are being kind of selected is 1470 01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:51.119 because they know or they have the right connections. And 1471 01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:53.760 to kind of like counter a point that Elon Musk made. 1472 01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:56.159 Elon's like, why don't they compete with me? Well, just 1473 01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:58.440 like you said before about like why don't they reveal 1474 01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:01.320 this technology, lets happen, because then would be the technology, right, 1475 01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.079 So that's why they can't compete with it. But they 1476 01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:07.480 also don't care about being four hundred five hundred billion dollar, 1477 01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:10.559 you know, richest people in the world. Give me one 1478 01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:11.679 billion dollars and I'm good. 1479 01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:12.400 I'll go disappear. 1480 01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:14.880 You never have to know my name, right, So that's 1481 01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:16.960 the way it seems to work behind the scenes. But 1482 01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.159 if people pay attention, I mean, I think you can 1483 01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:19.800 see it happening. 1484 01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:21.800 So you're saying Elon's like, why won't they compete with 1485 01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:24.639 my space program? Basically is where he's at. And then 1486 01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:27.320 and they're but secretly building drones that can go underwater 1487 01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.079 and fly into space exactly. 1488 01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:32.199 Yeah, and I don't know the space part's weird, Like 1489 01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:34.079 I want to broach this topic with you a little 1490 01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:37.960 bit too. That, Uh, the more I research these plasma 1491 01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:40.800 drones and stuff, I'm going like, did he even operate 1492 01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:43.880 in outer space? Because I think they're using something called 1493 01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:46.800 an air breathing system magneto hydrodynamic system, which means they're 1494 01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:49.559 basically using either the air or the water is either 1495 01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:51.719 a fuel source or is like a catalyst and the 1496 01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:55.360 reaction so they don't have to have that stuff on board. Well, 1497 01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:57.440 outer space doesn't have nearly as much as like the 1498 01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:00.880 air or like water. So there's two ways to look 1499 01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:02.480 at One would be that like, you don't need that 1500 01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:05.159 much stuff in outer space because you're just like floating 1501 01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:07.679 through the air, floating through space, right. But the other 1502 01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:09.280 view of it is, well, even if you lose like 1503 01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:12.559 a tiny bit of your matter your energy, then over 1504 01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:15.039 a long distance you're gonna lose everything, but before you 1505 01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:18.280 get there, right, So I don't know if they can 1506 01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:18.880 really be used. 1507 01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:21.480 It sounds like a local defense tool, Like I think 1508 01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:23.559 it makes sense for planets to have local defense drones 1509 01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:27.159 that are just plasma orbiting and protecting the atmosphere. That 1510 01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:27.760 makes sense. 1511 01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:29.880 That's what I thought those new Jersey drones were. 1512 01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:31.760 Actually I was on with Clint Russell, you know him, right, 1513 01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:34.920 That was he and I did like really great livestream 1514 01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:36.679 where we were talking about that new Jersey drone thing 1515 01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:38.920 back in December, and I was like, I think they're 1516 01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:41.480 like a defense mechanism, Like what if they're just drones 1517 01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:43.920 sit around their defense network, where like if someone shoots 1518 01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:46.239 a hypersonic at us, our drones just intercept it. 1519 01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:49.159 And like wormhole it to the sun or something. 1520 01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:51.360 Or like an asteroid or something that drones. 1521 01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:54.480 To absolutely right, like the Opofos asteroid that I think 1522 01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:57.159 is like twenty twenty nine or something like that. I'm 1523 01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:59.079 not afraid of that because we got plasma drones that 1524 01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:02.039 are just flying around that can you know, intercept stuff 1525 01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:03.519 anywhere that they that we need to. 1526 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:05.440 But this means too. 1527 01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:07.840 This is something that I learned from old anime shows 1528 01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:10.280 is that the smartest anime shows would be like the 1529 01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:13.400 ones where the guys like trying to understand the villain 1530 01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:15.320 and like what his power is and like what his 1531 01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:18.399 weakness is in his power. That's how when I look 1532 01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:21.119 at like the teleportation technology, I was like, what are 1533 01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:23.000 the limits to this? Turns out there's a lot of 1534 01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:25.239 limits to it. It's not just like oh I can 1535 01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.399 just zapp and just now I'm on the moon and 1536 01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:29.960 now I'm back. Turns out it's like a one way 1537 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:33.560 trip kind of situation, like you zapp here and now 1538 01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:35.159 you're over here, but now you have to do it 1539 01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:37.479 again if you want to go you know somewhere else. 1540 01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:40.000 You know where I'm at with with wormholes, Maybe you 1541 01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:42.479 have more to say is charged black holes. I'm not 1542 01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:44.319 sure if you're familiar with the charged black hole. It's 1543 01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:46.520 different than a regular black hole. It's like rotating, and 1544 01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:48.560 I think it's been woken up. I think it's a 1545 01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:52.319 teleportation mechanism. If you travel through a charged black hole, 1546 01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:55.439 it will super accelerate you through that singularity. You'll go 1547 01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:58.359 through so tight and be shot out so fast. Afterwards, 1548 01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:01.399 you'll super accelerate towards it's the first star you hit, 1549 01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:03.680 and then it'll slow you down and you'll stop in 1550 01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:06.039 front of it. And I think that's literally people will 1551 01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:08.760 aim towards stars between they'll put the charge black hole 1552 01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:11.119 between them and the star and they'll go through it, 1553 01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:13.239 and that will teleport them to the star. And that 1554 01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:18.000 we can actually charge our black hole, Sagittarius B, I 1555 01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:19.640 think is at the center of our galaxy. We have 1556 01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:21.520 a black hole, but it's not charged up yet, So 1557 01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:23.119 I think we can charge that thing and use it 1558 01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:27.479 as a teleportation mechanism or whatever. It's a super accelerator 1559 01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.760 basically not really teleporting, but it's at that speed, you know, 1560 01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:32.760 it's hard to tell the difference. Yeah. 1561 01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:36.359 Leonard Suskin and Juan Melosina they believe that the black 1562 01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:40.479 holes are quantum entangled. But there's an interesting theory that 1563 01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:42.760 I hadn't seen before I read it yesterday, which was 1564 01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:46.479 that what if the black hole like doesn't have perfect 1565 01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:48.800 entanglebl the difference between a black hole and a wormhole 1566 01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:51.680 would be when you create a wormhole, like I'm zapping 1567 01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:55.239 like you know, this airplane here and it's reappearing over here. 1568 01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:58.479 But what if when the black hole pulls in matter, 1569 01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:00.760 it like rips it out, shoots it out like a 1570 01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:06.000 sprinkler like, so it's like creating like multiple entanglements like, 1571 01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:08.800 but it's like they're not altogether anymore at that point. 1572 01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:11.159 And what if that's the difference in that really a 1573 01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:13.560 worm holes like a black hole, but it's like a stabilized, 1574 01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:16.199 temporary black hole like this temporary rip you make, whereas 1575 01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:18.720 a black hole is like this huge amount of mass 1576 01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:22.279 that's just like anything comes in has wept in, shreded pieces. 1577 01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:26.600 We have scientific community located any wormholes yet like. 1578 01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:29.279 Well, I don't know how we would even do that. 1579 01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:31.039 That's the problem because like even if you see a 1580 01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.640 black hole like okay, well where's it coming out? Because 1581 01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:35.560 what we what have we learned from entanglement. 1582 01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:38.159 It could be anywhere. It could be like literally anywhere. 1583 01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:41.520 So I think we probably will find some because I 1584 01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:43.800 personally think that these wormholes and black holes exist. But 1585 01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:48.359 the question is are they cosmological phenomenon other than black 1586 01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:52.399 holes or are they purely like a laboratory produced phenomenon. 1587 01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:56.000 Right, the wormhole? What is it? Exactly? What's the difference 1588 01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:57.560 between a worm like? What is do you know what 1589 01:10:57.680 --> 01:11:00.199 the theoretical working definition of a wormhole is? 1590 01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:02.760 Yeah, it's just a bridge between two points in space 1591 01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:07.239 and time. And so you obviously really we have to 1592 01:11:07.319 --> 01:11:10.800 only imagine it metaphysically because we can't see an extra dimension. 1593 01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:14.199 But usually they represent it as like two flat surfaces 1594 01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:17.600 and then a tunnel between the two surfaces like this, right, 1595 01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:22.279 And so it's this conceptual view that, like I was 1596 01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:25.840 saying before, is that that space time is flat. Like 1597 01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:28.399 I think it's been proven that space time is actually flat. 1598 01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:30.600 We don't really agree it, and flat earthers are probably 1599 01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:32.880 gonna have a field day with this, but space time 1600 01:11:32.960 --> 01:11:34.920 is flat, we just don't perceive it as flat. And 1601 01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:36.960 if it's flat, then you can just bend it like this. 1602 01:11:37.159 --> 01:11:40.199 And now the points that were previously not connected are connected. 1603 01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:42.520 Now that seems super weird to us because that's not 1604 01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:46.319 how we see observe reality around us. But that's because 1605 01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:49.199 all of space time around us is an equilibrium. It's 1606 01:11:49.239 --> 01:11:52.600 all perfectly equilibrium. But if we rip that out of equilibrium, 1607 01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:54.279 then we start to see these weird effects. 1608 01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:57.560 But if it's true, if wormholes are real, then I 1609 01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:00.079 think it proves Ben Riches right, that all point in 1610 01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:03.000 space and time are actually really connected. We just don't. 1611 01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:04.800 We don't perceive them as being connected. 1612 01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:07.479 And like motion and time and space and speed and 1613 01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:09.840 all that. If you're in deep space with no reference 1614 01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:12.039 point and it's black everywhere all around you, if you 1615 01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:14.640 start going faster, you won't know it because there's no 1616 01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:19.960 there's no perceptual inertia. I don't even think there's inertia 1617 01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:23.039 if there's no relative space. I don't think that's I mean, 1618 01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:26.279 they're like, yeah, good, there is technically inertia, but you 1619 01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:29.600 wouldn't perceive it so like, and then your distance would 1620 01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.000 be shorter, but you wouldn't have realized it was because 1621 01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:33.239 you were going faster and didn't know it. 1622 01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:36.640 Yeah, it turns out like a lot of this stuff 1623 01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:41.119 is illusion the illusion like cloaking or the illusion of distance, 1624 01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:44.439 or when something gets smaller when it gets further away. Like, 1625 01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:48.760 it turns out these effects, while they seem illusionary, they're 1626 01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:51.159 also just physically real as well. So like if you 1627 01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:55.159 contract or expand space because of relativity, you actually do 1628 01:12:55.439 --> 01:12:58.359 change physical properties. One of the things that was being 1629 01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:01.479 talked about, I think I Richard ban Durich, he was, uh, 1630 01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:03.840 he was making ways because he was talking about like 1631 01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:06.399 alien meta materials or something like that. I don't know 1632 01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:08.560 about all his alien meta material claims, but he knows 1633 01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:12.039 about electromagnetism and gravity, and he was saying that, well, 1634 01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:15.960 if you have length contraction or length expansion from general 1635 01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:19.319 relativity from you know, things moving at relative speeds, then 1636 01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:22.800 you can have current actually increased from the perception of current. 1637 01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:25.760 Like if I'm looking at an object, the electricity being 1638 01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:28.159 formed will look like it's going up if you have 1639 01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:31.600 length contraction or expansion happening. And he explains this from 1640 01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:35.399 the perception of the electrons, and you're like, wow, okay, yeah, 1641 01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:38.800 so general relativity actually starts to get really weird. And 1642 01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:41.600 this could even explain like why do we have it, 1643 01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:45.279 Like imagine this cube of space time. Like, if I 1644 01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:49.239 squeeze this cube of space time, what's gonna happen. What 1645 01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:51.760 I would imagine is whatever's inside this cube of space 1646 01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:53.079 time is gonna get pushed out. 1647 01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:54.800 It's gonna get pushed out. Squeeze that. 1648 01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:57.239 So if I have contraction of space time, what do 1649 01:13:57.319 --> 01:13:59.199 I think should be happening, Well, I think energy should 1650 01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:01.760 be getting shot out, probably in the form of photons. 1651 01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:04.920 So personally, that's how how my my view of the 1652 01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:07.000 universe is. I think the zero point energy is filled 1653 01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:10.399 with this invisible energy. That's an equilibrium I and if 1654 01:14:10.439 --> 01:14:12.199 you squeeze it, you get light. 1655 01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:16.000 Oh, well, that's son iluminescence. Then I guess you're you're 1656 01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:19.600 squeezing on the bubble underwater. You're creating a vacuum. Well 1657 01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:21.840 you're you're what is You're running a vibration through and 1658 01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:24.319 creating a bubble, which then the pressure, the squeezing of 1659 01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:27.039 the pressure, releases a photone. 1660 01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:30.439 So sonal luminescence. You take water and you just shoot 1661 01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:33.760 the sound, Uh, create a standing wave in the middle 1662 01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:37.079 of your sound of your water, and the sound the 1663 01:14:37.159 --> 01:14:40.119 sound will actually create light. Light actually gets formed, and 1664 01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:44.079 it's because it creates a cavitation and implosive effect that 1665 01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:47.960 produces light. Science struggles to understand why that's the case, 1666 01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.880 and why how there could be so much energy that 1667 01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:54.159 light is being released while like the glass that's containing 1668 01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:56.399 the water doesn't break, or why the water doesn't boil. 1669 01:14:56.720 --> 01:14:57.920 Why does the water not boil. 1670 01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:01.279 You've got you've got light being produced in the middle 1671 01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:04.359 of this, but the water's not boiling. Some people wonder 1672 01:15:04.479 --> 01:15:08.640 is fusion happening in sono luminescence? And so I think 1673 01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:10.720 that the reason why I love those experiments is that 1674 01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:12.560 when I was digging through this, digging through the science, 1675 01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:14.079 trying to figure out, like how are they are they 1676 01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:18.119 really hiding gravity whatever, you find all these experiments that 1677 01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:24.319 like have no like palatable conventional explanation. And that's why, 1678 01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:26.399 I mean, part of the reason why I'm absolutely convinced 1679 01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:28.159 that all this science is real is that when you 1680 01:15:28.199 --> 01:15:30.319 look at the underlying thread of it, you find out 1681 01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:33.199 that it goes back to Tesla, it goes back to 1682 01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:35.960 Maxwell's original equations before. 1683 01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:36.600 They got reduced. 1684 01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:39.399 Is we threw out this scalar potential because we didn't 1685 01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:41.319 see it, We didn't see it out there, kind of 1686 01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:43.319 like how we don't see wormholes out there, but that 1687 01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:45.600 doesn't mean they're not real. The math says that they 1688 01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:49.039 should exist. Sure, so the scaler potential is real too. 1689 01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:51.560 Maybe we just didn't we didn't, you know, find the 1690 01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:53.680 right effect to see it. Maybe it's mostly a lab 1691 01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:54.279 produced effect. 1692 01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:57.239 And this is what the effect of what exactly that 1693 01:15:57.319 --> 01:15:57.760 we're within. 1694 01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:01.279 Yeah, the scalar potentials like the affe of the medium itself, 1695 01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:04.720 so like the effect of and I believe it can be. 1696 01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:08.000 I believe the scaler potential gets seen more when you pull, 1697 01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:10.000 like you create an electric system and you shoot the 1698 01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:14.640 voltage up super super high, like above thirty fifty thousand volts. 1699 01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:18.119 Is now that scalar potential that was really really tiny before, 1700 01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:21.239 now you can actually see measurable effects related to it. 1701 01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:23.399 And a common example that as I was up hiking 1702 01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:25.000 up in the clouds, I was up in the mountains, 1703 01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:26.640 I was it was foggy. I didn't know it was 1704 01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:28.840 foggy because I was up there. It just looked normal. 1705 01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:31.520 And I was walking. I'm like, why am I dripping 1706 01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:33.880 with sweat? Literally as if I'd been in the pool 1707 01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:36.279 swimming in my clothing. I was dripping. My friend was 1708 01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:39.279 like you're dripping like drip drip, drip drip like why 1709 01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:43.319 because the medium I was in imperceivably wet. I didn't 1710 01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:45.199 know because I was inside of it, I couldn't see it. 1711 01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:48.199 Exactly the same kind of thing with fit with space time. 1712 01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:50.760 There's so much potential energy in this medium that we 1713 01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:51.800 don't perceive because. 1714 01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:55.000 We're in it, and that's what allows for really all 1715 01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:58.159 this science to be possible, of free energy, of over unity, 1716 01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:00.760 of fusion. I think that if they're wasn't a medium, 1717 01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:03.000 why we wouldn't even be digging it. We wouldn't even 1718 01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:04.800 trying to do fusion. I don't think fusion would be 1719 01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:07.279 possible if there wasn't a medium of energy. I mean, 1720 01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:11.760 you'd have to be pumping in the you know, all 1721 01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:14.680 your fuel source conventionally, which I don't know how that 1722 01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:17.479 could ever achieve over unity from a conceptual viewpoint if 1723 01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:21.600 space is empty, but you know, maybe we can do 1724 01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:22.119 it that way. 1725 01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:25.800 So yeah, oh, I just I appreciate that you talked 1726 01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:30.000 about distance contracting and expanding distance and that producing an 1727 01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:33.159 electrical charge, or even the perception of expanding and contracting 1728 01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:35.680 distance that could produce an electrical charge. I'm going to 1729 01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:37.319 sleep on that one. That's really right. 1730 01:17:37.399 --> 01:17:40.840 You definitely want to check out the Paul Thibodeau graphing 1731 01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:44.800 thermal thing, which is really cool because essentially what he's 1732 01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:49.600 created is a battery that the batteries default state is 1733 01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:50.319 not zero. 1734 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:52.560 The batteries default state is you know. 1735 01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:55.319 Pick a voltage number, it doesn't matter, right, because what 1736 01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:57.359 that would mean is that you can sap energy off 1737 01:17:57.399 --> 01:17:59.279 of it and it always tries to go back to 1738 01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:00.800 that equilibrium state. 1739 01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:04.840 Yeah, how crazy is that? Like a battery, chadgery battery. 1740 01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:08.880 Nice job, Paul Thibodeaux. Yeah, I saw that one. 1741 01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:10.880 I'm just like, wow, that was a type of And 1742 01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:12.840 so this is why I try to tell people, like 1743 01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:16.960 there's so many different conceptual viewpoints of free energy devices. 1744 01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:18.880 One of them is just a battery that just never 1745 01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:22.720 runs out. And so he's created an asymmetrical system that 1746 01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:26.960 it's equilibrium is not zero. And of course every physicist 1747 01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:28.760 that was in the presentation is going, how is this 1748 01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:32.239 How is this not violating the laws of thermodynamics? And 1749 01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:34.920 he says as well, because it's basically just harnessing Brownie 1750 01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:37.520 in motion from the thermal ambient temperature. Like it if 1751 01:18:37.560 --> 01:18:39.960 you do the equations, the math shows that should work. 1752 01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.680 They built the microchip. Microchip shows that it works. 1753 01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:44.319 What else do you want? Right? 1754 01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:47.600 And they've also they created nuclear batteries. They were doing 1755 01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:49.760 with like a small they have like nuclear waste. They 1756 01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:52.239 put in glass or diamond or something and it produces 1757 01:18:52.600 --> 01:18:54.359 exactly the same kind of piezo electric. 1758 01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:54.800 You know. 1759 01:18:55.079 --> 01:18:57.399 That's the stuff where I think you're talking about where 1760 01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:00.399 they're using the word nuclear, I think a little everly, 1761 01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:03.159 where like I think they're like doing transmutation and they're 1762 01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:05.439 just been like, yeah, it's just nuclear. 1763 01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:07.479 You know, because technically it is. Technically it is nuclear. 1764 01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:09.960 But you're like, how are you doing it? How efficiently 1765 01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:10.920 are you doing it? Right? 1766 01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:13.479 Like, because you could theoretically be doing this super efficiently, 1767 01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:15.800 making like tons of money and just producing stuff that 1768 01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:17.800 would people would be saying is violating you know, the 1769 01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:21.359 laws of physics, vitalized laws dermodynamics. But yeah, I think 1770 01:19:21.399 --> 01:19:23.000 that there's doing it and they're doing it quietly, and 1771 01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:26.439 then they've got contracts with other government or other entities. 1772 01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:30.560 But breakoff. They'll break off like that little one for 1773 01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:32.319 the public and be like, hey, look what we figured out. 1774 01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:34.560 You can you can maybe charge your iPhone with this. 1775 01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:37.000 Exactly. 1776 01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:39.239 And now, you know, when we talk about the companies, 1777 01:19:39.239 --> 01:19:40.800 I think I know where your politics are. You think 1778 01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:43.079 you're kind of more libertarian, kind of like I am, 1779 01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:46.800 you know, free speech, uh, freedom of you know, expression, 1780 01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:51.560 et cetera. You know, recently the United States took control 1781 01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:54.560 part of Intel because I think they're a micro chip manufacturer. 1782 01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:56.119 I think a lot of what I've found out about 1783 01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:58.760 this is like we're well past the days of like 1784 01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:01.680 magnetic motors and these like free energy devices people were 1785 01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:03.720 making that were like as big as a room. Now 1786 01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:05.199 we're to the point of like people are making free 1787 01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:06.920 energy devices on little microchips. 1788 01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:09.359 So microchips are the future. 1789 01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:13.720 There was actually somebody floating today the idea of Locking 1790 01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:18.159 Martin being potentially nationalized as well. Apparently ninety seven percent 1791 01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:20.960 of their revenue comes from the government. I didn't even 1792 01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:23.680 know that about Locking Martin until today. So where do 1793 01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:27.520 you stand on this, like, you know, nationalization of companies 1794 01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:30.439 under national you know, security or national defense. I mean, 1795 01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:33.039 if the technology is that powerful, if we have this 1796 01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:36.079 crazy you know, alien technology zero pint any tesla technology, 1797 01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:39.000 and is it right to nationalize them or is free 1798 01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:40.960 market went over this is. 1799 01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:43.119 I'm so glad you. I just posted this on Twitter 1800 01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:45.199 before we went live, and that it's that in the 1801 01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:49.000 twentieth century was basically the war between fascism and communism, 1802 01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:51.399 and it was one or the other, pick aside, and 1803 01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:55.840 the Western powers chose fascism with the Federal Reserve and FDR, 1804 01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:58.560 and it was instead. It wasn't like Mussolini fascism. It 1805 01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:02.000 wasn't that kind of violent kicking doors in Hitler fascism. 1806 01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:05.359 It was British fascism. It was peaceful fascism, but it 1807 01:21:05.439 --> 01:21:08.439 was better than communism, and it fascism won. And we 1808 01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:10.479 live in a fascist system where our government can print 1809 01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:15.119 fake money and does so many businesses with corporations behind 1810 01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:19.479 the scenes that is indicative of a fascist behavioral but 1811 01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:21.560 not on paper. They don't own any of the companies 1812 01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:24.199 because that would be fascist. Well, anyway, Trump just did 1813 01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:27.920 it blatantly in public for the first time. He's showing 1814 01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:31.439 our fascist nature by buying using government funds my money 1815 01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:35.119 to print fake money to buy He basically made my 1816 01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:37.880 money worthless to print to buy a company. And now 1817 01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:42.600 they're talking about going full communist and owning businesses. It's insane. 1818 01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:46.600 Like we at least need a visage of a free economy. 1819 01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:51.920 Because Intel stock slip cook Intel stock went up seven 1820 01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:55.960 percent after he invested eight billions or ten billion. That's 1821 01:21:56.039 --> 01:21:57.920 playing favorites in the market. What the hell's going to 1822 01:21:57.960 --> 01:21:59.319 happen to the other chip manufacturers? 1823 01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:03.479 Now, how's nobody talking about this? I'm saying, you're wondering, 1824 01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:06.640 like we just took over part of a chip manufacturer 1825 01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:08.960 and nobody's saying a word about are one hundred. 1826 01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:11.479 Percent playing favorites? I mean, there's no debate. We're playing favorites. 1827 01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:12.720 Of course their stock When I'm the first thing I 1828 01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:14.159 did was look at their stock. I'm like, this must 1829 01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:17.000 have shot sent their stock up. It's like so and 1830 01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:19.560 I guess I can see it from national skier perspective, 1831 01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:22.760 But I mean the public that's not been researching this stuff, 1832 01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:25.039 they should be all over wondering what's going on here? 1833 01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:27.800 Like what's the justification for doing this? And how do 1834 01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:31.399 we if now that we've set this precedent right, why 1835 01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:33.720 aren't we taking over Locked Martin. Why aren't we taking 1836 01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:37.399 over Sierra Nevada Corporation? Why not taking over Battel Institute? 1837 01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:40.359 Like there's so many companies that are defense contractors that 1838 01:22:40.399 --> 01:22:43.479 are basically all their money comes directly from the US government. 1839 01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:44.399 Why aren't they taken over? 1840 01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:48.000 Yeah, because that would be purely fascist or a communistic 1841 01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:50.159 dictatorship if they were to try to do something like 1842 01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:53.439 that and ruin the free market. And like, the thing 1843 01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:56.319 I remember from time to time is that most people 1844 01:22:56.720 --> 01:23:00.359 are not really smart. There are small, a very small 1845 01:23:00.439 --> 01:23:02.520 there are people that are really smart, and they're considered 1846 01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:04.159 really smart because there aren't that many of them, so 1847 01:23:04.199 --> 01:23:06.359 they're putting that category of really smart. And a lot 1848 01:23:06.399 --> 01:23:08.079 of times people in the government that you get that 1849 01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:11.760 same percentage. Maybe you get some people in government. They're 1850 01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:14.159 very charismatic people in government, a lot of them, especially 1851 01:23:14.159 --> 01:23:17.079 the ones that speak for a living. Charisma and intelligence 1852 01:23:17.119 --> 01:23:19.439 are not the same thing. Intelligence and wisdom aren't the 1853 01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:20.920 same thing. You might be able to remember what you 1854 01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:22.880 were told to do and do it and have high 1855 01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:25.720 intelligence and great memory recall, with no ability to discern 1856 01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:27.479 if what you're doing is right or wrong because you 1857 01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:29.560 don't have any wisdom. So we have to remember that 1858 01:23:29.640 --> 01:23:31.479 just because they're people and they're given this badge of 1859 01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:34.279 authority doesn't mean that they're good or intelligent or wise, 1860 01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:36.439 and we have to keep these people in check. 1861 01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:38.520 That's a big problem. 1862 01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:41.279 How do you keep them in check? Especially if they have, 1863 01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:45.399 you know, magical technology. Let's just assume that these disclosure 1864 01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:47.800 people are all telling the truth and that there's aliens 1865 01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:49.479 here and we've got this alien technology. 1866 01:23:49.920 --> 01:23:52.119 Well, things have gone completely off the rails if that's 1867 01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:54.640 the case. If they've got a free energy fusion technology, 1868 01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:58.279 wormal technology, from aliens, from anything. How do you keep 1869 01:23:58.359 --> 01:24:00.640 someone like that in check? You can't, right, I think 1870 01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:03.479 they let the mask slip now where it's like, you know, 1871 01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:07.119 we just dunked on Iran. Putin just came and visited us. 1872 01:24:07.159 --> 01:24:08.960 When was the last time Putin came to America? 1873 01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:12.279 He just came to America basically basically bent the knee. 1874 01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:14.000 I don't people don't want to agree that he bent 1875 01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:16.199 the knee, but I think he did. And then now 1876 01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:21.000 we're also just you know, nationalizing chip manufacturers. So I 1877 01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:23.159 look at this, I go, we're letting the mass slip here, 1878 01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:24.880 and like, this is this type of stuff I would 1879 01:24:24.880 --> 01:24:27.720 think would need to happen to put safeguards in place 1880 01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:29.319 so that if we did want to release any of 1881 01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:32.000 this technology, you know, we aren't going to be able 1882 01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:34.159 to destroy ourselves and in America will feel safe that 1883 01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:36.399 like China is not going to get our super advanced 1884 01:24:36.479 --> 01:24:38.880 microchips or whatever this is going on. 1885 01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:42.800 You think this the safeguard is purchasing the private companies 1886 01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:46.039 so that the other because I'm like, fascism isn't always evil. 1887 01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:47.520 This is another thing I wrestle with, and it's not 1888 01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:50.359 always evil. Sometimes fascism can be good. You know, you 1889 01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:51.520 want to make that dumb argument. 1890 01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:52.000 It's true. 1891 01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:55.000 Sometimes you can use fascist tactics to create a stable, 1892 01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:58.800 healthy system for people. Even at the behage, we're still 1893 01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:01.920 conquering and absorb being resources from overseas. That's probably how 1894 01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:05.880 we're able to maintain fiat fascism. But it doesn't mean 1895 01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:07.760 it's evil just because it's fascist. So there there is 1896 01:25:07.840 --> 01:25:10.399 the argument that in the name of you know, survival, 1897 01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:14.800 we have to come together use our private our government 1898 01:25:14.880 --> 01:25:18.760 funds to buy what the fuck have we not done 1899 01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:21.640 this test? You buy ten percent? First, Oh, it's not 1900 01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:23.560 real communism, it's only ten percent. He doesn't have a 1901 01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:25.880 control and share. Yeah not today? 1902 01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:28.560 Yeah, Well, I mean we just they can never that 1903 01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:30.960 company can never fail now, right, because We've just bought 1904 01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:34.000 ten percent of them, so they will obviously never fail anymore. 1905 01:25:34.039 --> 01:25:36.760 So yeah, I mean, that's just it's ridiculous, the whole 1906 01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:39.439 idea that we're just buying this stuff of these companies up. 1907 01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:43.359 But I guess the last part would be, like, well, 1908 01:25:43.439 --> 01:25:46.680 what really is even disclosure at this point? Like if 1909 01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:49.600 we assume that there are let's just assume that there's aliens, 1910 01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:53.039 we've got this technology or what have you, Like, how 1911 01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:54.439 do you even define disclosure anymore? 1912 01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:56.119 This is why I came up with this term called woke. 1913 01:25:56.039 --> 01:25:59.760 Disclosure, because I think the woke disclosure people look at 1914 01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:01.840 kind of what we laid out here and they come 1915 01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:04.399 to a similar conclusion, like we can't have all this. 1916 01:26:04.479 --> 01:26:06.640 There's certain stuff that's got to be kept secret for 1917 01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:10.119 national security. But they got to do something. It's like COVID, right, 1918 01:26:10.399 --> 01:26:12.720 we have to do something. It's like a cold virus. 1919 01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:14.520 There's nothing we can do as a cold virus man. 1920 01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:15.720 We have to do something. 1921 01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:17.000 Make everyone wear masks. 1922 01:26:17.319 --> 01:26:18.520 Just make everyone wear masks. 1923 01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:21.000 We gotta do something, right, I feel like they are 1924 01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:22.800 doing the same thing with the aliens. Are going we 1925 01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:25.079 have to do something, Okay, just tell everybody aliens are real. 1926 01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:25.960 Look, we can do that. 1927 01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:28.239 That's not gonna hurt national security. No one's gonna make 1928 01:26:28.279 --> 01:26:30.399 a super weapon out of that, right, just tell aliens 1929 01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:34.560 are real. The problem with that is it's so stupid, Like, Okay, 1930 01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:38.319 if aliens are real, how are they getting here? Like 1931 01:26:38.399 --> 01:26:40.520 where are they coming from exactly? And how are they 1932 01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:42.920 getting here? And what is the fuel source for their 1933 01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:45.880 magical UFOs that are flying around defying gravity? 1934 01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:46.119 Right? 1935 01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:47.800 Like those are my first three questions. 1936 01:26:48.359 --> 01:26:49.680 So this is the part where I think that the 1937 01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:51.840 whole woke disclosure thing is like I think they just 1938 01:26:51.920 --> 01:26:54.399 think they're better than us, and they know better than us, 1939 01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:57.479 and they might even be right, honestly, but I hate 1940 01:26:57.560 --> 01:26:59.840 that viewpoint of this idea of like we just they 1941 01:26:59.880 --> 01:27:02.760 have to control our lives because we will we will 1942 01:27:02.800 --> 01:27:05.079 blow ourselves up if we if we do, Like, honestly, 1943 01:27:05.119 --> 01:27:07.119 for me, and I want to know your opinion, I 1944 01:27:07.279 --> 01:27:09.479 just say, if that's the case, if it's between us 1945 01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:12.239 blowing ourselves up with this technology or just living a. 1946 01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:15.199 Lie forever legends, I'm gonna roll the dice. Man, We're 1947 01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:16.840 just gonna blow ourselves. If that's the case, then that's 1948 01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:18.399 how we go out that's the end of our story. 1949 01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:20.760 I guess, yeah, that's honestly, what do you think. 1950 01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:23.520 Like honesty and deceit? I used to think like honesty 1951 01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:26.039 is the only way and deception is a mortal sin. 1952 01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:28.560 It's not The Catholic Church actually says honesty is not 1953 01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:30.920 a virtue. Lying is not a sin to the Catholics. 1954 01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:35.159 I mean, they don't care. Uh it's so. I firstly, 1955 01:27:35.199 --> 01:27:37.640 if aliens came here, they would not discern between our 1956 01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:39.960 governments and our people. They would just show every They 1957 01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:41.439 would just be here and everyone would be like what 1958 01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:43.439 it would be? You know that It wouldn't be like 1959 01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:45.800 we secretly had a message with the guy we think 1960 01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:47.880 might be able to tell the world, Like what the fuck? 1961 01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:50.479 They're here for power. They're here to That's why they're here. 1962 01:27:50.520 --> 01:27:54.479 They're here to expand that's why they came. Uh so whatever, 1963 01:27:55.079 --> 01:27:58.840 But I I just I agonize over this. This the 1964 01:27:58.960 --> 01:28:01.960 thing about the plays, you know, like the common man 1965 01:28:02.079 --> 01:28:05.960 and then the elite, the royal FA the royal and 1966 01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:09.800 their subjects. The Romans called them the plebs and then 1967 01:28:09.840 --> 01:28:13.119 the leaders whatever that. But what it is is generations 1968 01:28:13.159 --> 01:28:17.840 of people with good nutrition developed very powerfully capable brains, 1969 01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:20.640 good thinking, good intelligence, good wisdom, and then their children 1970 01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:23.479 have good intelligence, and then they give they have There 1971 01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:26.600 are family lines and communities of people that have had 1972 01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:31.319 excellent nutrition over generations, so they're very equipped to organize 1973 01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:33.920 and lead and run things. I get it. But that 1974 01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:36.279 doesn't mean that other people can't. It just means that 1975 01:28:36.359 --> 01:28:38.079 maybe they were dealt a bad hand coming in, or 1976 01:28:38.159 --> 01:28:42.359 dealt like a non nutritious brain matter, you know, body now, 1977 01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:45.359 But that then you gotta think, well, they're still animals. 1978 01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:49.680 Humans are animals, and a dumb animal is a very 1979 01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:55.119 dangerous creature. So you got to you gotta just play 1980 01:28:55.239 --> 01:28:57.880 real cards as they're dealt, and that is a true 1981 01:28:58.159 --> 01:29:01.600 fact of nature. So I hate the idea of keeping 1982 01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:03.880 things from people, man, especially when I see someone that 1983 01:29:03.960 --> 01:29:06.159 I know could be great and they haven't become great yet. 1984 01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:09.119 But they're not great yet, and I can't treat them 1985 01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:09.560 like they are. 1986 01:29:10.319 --> 01:29:13.520 So oh, so what do you think? What do you pick? 1987 01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:13.640 Then? 1988 01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:16.840 If if it's been choices between ignorant bliss living the 1989 01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:19.720 world that we're in right now, you know, our twenty 1990 01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:24.560 first century world, or taking the risk that we destroy ourselves. 1991 01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:25.760 But we get Star Trek. 1992 01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:29.800 Technology you know, wormholes, warp drives, even replicators, not immediately 1993 01:29:29.840 --> 01:29:30.159 but soon. 1994 01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:31.840 Which one are you gonna choose? Well? 1995 01:29:32.039 --> 01:29:35.119 Which would I interested in? The risky path? But we 1996 01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:38.279 have to discuss the risk, what's the what's the what's 1997 01:29:38.319 --> 01:29:42.159 the calculation here? Now, let's build a system of risk 1998 01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:45.159 management and go from there. 1999 01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:46.840 And that's where I. 2000 01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:48.680 Think, that's where I would I think that's a good 2001 01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:50.680 spot to kind of leave the conversation today, because this 2002 01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:52.760 is what I would say that I would hope that 2003 01:29:52.960 --> 01:29:54.560 you know, you would take from this as somebody that 2004 01:29:54.720 --> 01:29:56.920 you know is on with Tim Poole all the time 2005 01:29:57.039 --> 01:29:59.520 talking to these congress people that are looking at disclosure 2006 01:29:59.560 --> 01:30:02.319 and what have I think it's got. The conversation has 2007 01:30:02.359 --> 01:30:05.199 to become bigger than just aliens, right. The conversation has 2008 01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:08.119 to become more about, Okay, what comes with that? Is 2009 01:30:08.199 --> 01:30:10.279 what kind of technologies come with that? And then what 2010 01:30:10.399 --> 01:30:13.960 are those technologies mean? If they really are free energy technologies, 2011 01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:15.560 these technologies. 2012 01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:18.920 That are like star Trek stuff, then what is that discussion? 2013 01:30:19.119 --> 01:30:21.560 Like, how do we put those guardrails up so that 2014 01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:25.479 we can get these technologies to humanity in a safe 2015 01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:27.439 way where we mitigate the risk, Right. 2016 01:30:28.720 --> 01:30:30.520 Yeah, man, I'm thinking of I don't know why I 2017 01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:32.520 think of the CCP as the boogeyman. I don't like 2018 01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:34.439 having a boogeyman on. I don't think we need to 2019 01:30:34.479 --> 01:30:36.399 have a boogeyman. I think that's just kind of human nature. 2020 01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:39.199 We're so used to it genetically from always fighting against 2021 01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:41.600 this animal coming to try and eat my family. I 2022 01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:43.199 don't think we have to live like that all the 2023 01:30:43.239 --> 01:30:46.159 time anyway. But I just imagined like a virulent, you know, 2024 01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:50.279 angry regime that's hell bent on destroying everyone getting access 2025 01:30:50.319 --> 01:30:52.720 to some superpower. But like I mean, if it's going 2026 01:30:52.760 --> 01:30:55.880 to happen, you know, living in ignorant bliss doesn't necessarily 2027 01:30:55.960 --> 01:30:57.319 make it not happen. 2028 01:30:58.199 --> 01:31:00.319 I'll kick the can down the road, right, That's not 2029 01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:04.680 gonna not really solve anything in the long run. Let 2030 01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:08.039 me ask you about the question, Yeah, does the do 2031 01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:11.000 you remember a time when China was in our adversary? 2032 01:31:11.039 --> 01:31:13.039 Because I feel like I'm when I was younger, even 2033 01:31:13.079 --> 01:31:15.399 in my twenties, like China wasn't even like our adversary. 2034 01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:18.119 They were never our adversary. They did TMMN square And 2035 01:31:18.239 --> 01:31:21.079 it was like what the thought, like it was obvious 2036 01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:24.039 they were completely batshit psycho when they did, when they 2037 01:31:24.159 --> 01:31:26.960 massacred all those students for rising up in protest at 2038 01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:29.319 TM and Square, I thought that was like, Okay, these 2039 01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:33.600 guys are off the book evil to do that to 2040 01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:36.680 their populace, that's that's terrifying that they would govern do 2041 01:31:36.680 --> 01:31:38.199 that their public. That's what I took in the early 2042 01:31:38.319 --> 01:31:41.239 nineties from the CCP and then never had a problem 2043 01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:43.439 with them. I've always loved I mean, I know Chinese 2044 01:31:43.479 --> 01:31:45.079 products are shitty and cheap. I don't buy them. I 2045 01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:48.359 try to buy them. I love China, the history of China, 2046 01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:50.319 the Han dynasty, romance of the Three Kingdom is a 2047 01:31:50.399 --> 01:31:52.760 huge part of my childhood. I read the novel twice, 2048 01:31:53.239 --> 01:31:56.159 the game Lou Bay South South Dong Jao and all 2049 01:31:56.159 --> 01:32:00.520 the characters I identify with Chokulong, this ancient teature of 2050 01:32:01.039 --> 01:32:03.520 the Chinese people who invented the repeating crossbow, and like 2051 01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:06.039 he could control the weather, you know, as the story says, 2052 01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:10.560 he could call lightning and things. I love China, Chinese 2053 01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:12.840 history and the people one on one when I meet them. 2054 01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:16.960 I'm just always concerned with communism and central governments, you know, 2055 01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:19.319 trying to centralize authorities insane to me, which is like 2056 01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:23.079 buying intel with our government. It's insane to me. Okay, 2057 01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:25.119 I agree, I don't think. I don't think. I don't 2058 01:32:25.119 --> 01:32:26.680 even think there are a villain. And you know what, 2059 01:32:26.840 --> 01:32:29.600 but Scott Horton on Lex Freeman just did a ten 2060 01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:32.640 hour interview with Lex Freeman talking about what caused the 2061 01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:35.239 War of pir basically starts with like the the Iranian 2062 01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:37.239 regime in nineteen seventy nine, goes all the way. I've 2063 01:32:37.279 --> 01:32:39.159 only watched a couple hours, but he said in the 2064 01:32:39.199 --> 01:32:41.640 fifties and sixties, when they were developing counter nuclear war 2065 01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:44.880 protocols in the United States, if the Soviets go to 2066 01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:47.680 nuclear war with the United States, the plan was, we're 2067 01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:50.640 gonna nuke every metropolitan city in the Soviet Union, and 2068 01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:54.039 we're gonna nuke every metropolitan city in China because if 2069 01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:55.880 the Russians in US are going to take ourselves down, 2070 01:32:56.039 --> 01:32:58.119 there's no way in hell we're letting those commedy bastards 2071 01:32:58.119 --> 01:33:01.159 take this planet. And that's this protocol is basically, if 2072 01:33:01.199 --> 01:33:03.840 anything goes down, we're wiping all of China out. And 2073 01:33:03.920 --> 01:33:06.600 I think the Chinese know that, yeah, and. 2074 01:33:06.640 --> 01:33:08.079 I think they all know that, and I think that's 2075 01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:10.319 the reason why you can't have this technology comes out, 2076 01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:13.199 because if somebody has, you know, a super black hole weapon, 2077 01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:16.399 then everybody's gonna make it a Mexican standoff, right, And 2078 01:33:16.479 --> 01:33:18.479 now we're back at a point where anybody does anything. 2079 01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:19.600 The whole plants destroyed. 2080 01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:22.479 So man, and this is where I kind of wonder 2081 01:33:22.479 --> 01:33:25.760 about the China question, Like, yeah, they are communists, no question, 2082 01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:29.720 they're controlled government. But it's like, if you know, if 2083 01:33:29.760 --> 01:33:31.800 you knew about free energy technolog if you knew about 2084 01:33:31.800 --> 01:33:33.840 the dangers that this technology, and you were one of 2085 01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:35.800 those elites like you probably would do this. I think 2086 01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:37.760 most of us would do the same thing. That's the 2087 01:33:37.800 --> 01:33:39.840 scary part. And so then it's a matter of just 2088 01:33:39.920 --> 01:33:42.399 like how do we change the incentive structures, you know, 2089 01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:45.560 in a positive way where we can have you know, 2090 01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:49.720 some of this stuff an actual disclosure of information technology. 2091 01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:52.079 Reducing fuel costs is a big part of it, which 2092 01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:54.560 is why the hydrogen revolution excites me, whether that's through 2093 01:33:54.680 --> 01:33:57.920 fusing hydrogen into helium or using hydrogen gas as a 2094 01:33:58.039 --> 01:34:01.920 propellant or as an excitator or heat to get propulsion. 2095 01:34:02.359 --> 01:34:05.319 Like the hydrogen revolution, reducing the cost of fuel will 2096 01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:09.119 reduce the real national debt from thirty six trillion. On 2097 01:34:09.199 --> 01:34:11.840 paper too, if if fuels a tenth of the cost, 2098 01:34:11.960 --> 01:34:14.720 then our national debt may say thirty six trillion. It's 2099 01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:17.319 a tenth of that in reality, and that's a rough, 2100 01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:20.640 a rough calculation, but it might. You might pay one 2101 01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:23.439 hundred dollars, but you're the value. It's easier to get 2102 01:34:23.439 --> 01:34:25.720 one hundred dollars because it's so much cheaper for your fuel. 2103 01:34:25.960 --> 01:34:28.640 That's the point. And then that reduces global tension, and 2104 01:34:28.800 --> 01:34:32.880 then as humans will be able to reinvigorate the twenty 2105 01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:34.880 first century tech what we do. 2106 01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:37.199 I'm until Saudi Arabia is like, wait, you don't need 2107 01:34:37.239 --> 01:34:39.119 oil anymore. No, we hate you. We're gonna blow you 2108 01:34:39.159 --> 01:34:39.600 all up now. 2109 01:34:39.960 --> 01:34:42.199 But no, they're smart enough to like get on board 2110 01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:45.279 with this before, Like they're they're investing in this technology. 2111 01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:47.720 I think, like, and honestly, you can use that flash 2112 01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:50.079 jewel process I was talking about where you electrocute carbon. 2113 01:34:50.479 --> 01:34:52.920 You can do that to oil. You can put oil 2114 01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:54.840 in a vacuum and electrocute it and turn it into 2115 01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:58.439 graphene and get hydrogen, so it's still useful carbon, Like 2116 01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:00.239 you don't have to burn it for fuel. You can 2117 01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:02.199 use it to create graphing and then it's even better 2118 01:35:02.279 --> 01:35:06.880 fuel in a lot of ways, and with col too. 2119 01:35:07.319 --> 01:35:09.960 Yeah, this is an awesome conversation. Ian, go ahead. Do 2120 01:35:09.960 --> 01:35:11.840 you want to shout out you know, any of the 2121 01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:13.560 projects anything you're working on? Oh? 2122 01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:15.760 Yeah, while I'm working on a lot of music behind 2123 01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:17.800 the scenes. I got a movie upcoming that I'm producing 2124 01:35:17.880 --> 01:35:19.720 right now, and obviously I'm working with Tim Pool all 2125 01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:22.319 the time. I'll be on Friday Timcast i RL on 2126 01:35:22.479 --> 01:35:25.319 YouTube and Rumble Timcast i r L at eight pm 2127 01:35:25.439 --> 01:35:28.039 Eastern Standard time. You can always follow me Ian Crossland 2128 01:35:28.760 --> 01:35:30.960 on really any social media networks that you'll find me on. 2129 01:35:31.119 --> 01:35:36.119 I do Rumble, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, x, you know, Instagram. 2130 01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:37.960 Those are my top I think at the moment, Top 2131 01:35:38.039 --> 01:35:40.479 five minds. Follow me on minds. Happy to be here, 2132 01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:41.479 ashuay Man, this is great man. 2133 01:35:41.600 --> 01:35:43.680 Yeah, this was awesome. So yeah, this is great. 2134 01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:46.479 Let's meet up again sometime soon. Play some magic cards 2135 01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:49.000 and let's be in touch and we'll talk more science. 2136 01:35:49.039 --> 01:35:49.960 This is awesome conversation. 2137 01:35:50.359 --> 01:35:51.000 Excellent, man. 2138 01:35:51.399 --> 01:35:52.760 See I take it easy later