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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the poem Bo Show. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about Nikokado Avocado's epic comeback that

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<v Speaker 1>has the whole entire internet talking about him. So, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know who Nikokado Avocado is, he's a Muckbung

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<v Speaker 1>YouTuber and he posted a video yesterday with this huge

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<v Speaker 1>reveal of his two hundred and fifty pound weight loss,

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<v Speaker 1>and he tells everybody that this For the past two years,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been uploading pre recorded videos. He has not filmed

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<v Speaker 1>a video in the last two years, and he just

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<v Speaker 1>allowed everybody to believe that he was four hundred pounds

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<v Speaker 1>when in secret, he was really on a weight loss

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<v Speaker 1>journey preparing for this day. And a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are praising him. So many people are loving this grand reveal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean my initial thoughts I listen. If I

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<v Speaker 2>am happy that he has lost weight, and if he's

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<v Speaker 2>feeling healthier, that is fantastic. If he can walk further

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<v Speaker 2>without being labored in breath, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>I am not a fan of his.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like him, and him being two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty pounds thinner doesn't change who he is, It just

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<v Speaker 2>changes how he looks, you know, so unless he also

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he is toxic, a narcissist, aggressively manipulative.

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<v Speaker 2>It is fine to play a character, I understand if

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<v Speaker 2>that is even a character that he's playing.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think at the end of the day, whether

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<v Speaker 3>you are playing a character.

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<v Speaker 2>Or not, the way that he has behaved, the things

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<v Speaker 2>that he has said, the way that he has held

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<v Speaker 2>himself responded to things, et cetera, have had real world

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<v Speaker 2>impact on real people.

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<v Speaker 3>In the world.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people I don't think know that side

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<v Speaker 1>of Niko Kado because that happened a long time ago

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<v Speaker 1>when he first started his mockbong career, like the drama

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<v Speaker 1>that happened with Stephanie Sue, before that, Veronica Wang, before that,

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<v Speaker 1>Divine mud Cheese, and even before that, oh, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he had something with another ASMR channel, And then before

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<v Speaker 1>that he even got into a lot of beef with

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<v Speaker 1>vegan YouTubers who have accused him of also doing the

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<v Speaker 1>same things like manipul manipulating them, screwing them over, and

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<v Speaker 1>being very.

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<v Speaker 2>Deceptive, Like going on a health journey doesn't absolve you

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<v Speaker 2>from all of the terrible things that you have inflicted

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<v Speaker 2>on other people. I think it's I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>step in the right direction, right because it shows that

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<v Speaker 2>he is putting care into his well being, so hopefully,

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<v Speaker 2>on top of having gone through that weight loss journey,

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<v Speaker 2>he's also gone to therapy and like spoken to someone

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<v Speaker 2>about his crippling insecurity that causes.

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<v Speaker 3>Him to be really mean to other people.

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<v Speaker 1>I put up a community post on my YouTube channel

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<v Speaker 1>the other day, and I think people were misunderstanding. I

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<v Speaker 1>said something like, the public reaction is what I find

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<v Speaker 1>so fascinating to Nikokado Avocado. I feel like no one's

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<v Speaker 1>reacting to it. And a lot of people read that

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<v Speaker 1>as me saying nobody's talking about Nikokado Avocado's transformation. That

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<v Speaker 1>is not what I meant. I meant, Yeah, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>way people are reacting, like this is what you're saying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And all of a sudden, he's like being praised and

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<v Speaker 1>he's this.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't watch his video.

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<v Speaker 2>I just watched the clips of his video from like

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<v Speaker 2>other reaction channels and commentary channels.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>There were I'm happy he's getting healthy. I very might

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<v Speaker 2>know if he's healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's calling him, oh my god, he's a healthy queen

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<v Speaker 1>now king now, and we're so glad he's healthy. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know if he's healthy or not.

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<v Speaker 3>That's super fair. He could be doing a lot of coke.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's not what I meant, but I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so interesting how everybody just assumes because he lost

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<v Speaker 1>way and he's thin, that now he's healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And because a lot of people, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people quit being thinner right with being healthier.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's why they auto like we automatically

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<v Speaker 3>jump to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I feel like this is the perfect example

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<v Speaker 1>of how fat phobia exists. A lot of people just,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, made fun of him and didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>him because he was a fat, obese guy who ate

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of junk food and that was it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then now he's thin and he's still eating a large

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<v Speaker 1>amount of junk food, which is he had a whole, entire,

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<v Speaker 1>big plate of black bean noodles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like yeah, in that like comeback video.

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<v Speaker 1>He's eating this giant plate of instant black bee noodles.

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<v Speaker 1>And now that he's thin, nobody cares his diet has

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<v Speaker 1>changed so far, but nobody cares. Nobody's talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>this fat, obese, disgusting, gluttonous guy is eating a big

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<v Speaker 1>bull of noodles, yeah and yeah, and like three days

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<v Speaker 1>ago they were all saying that, yeah. So it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel I find that the most fascinating. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if Nikokado is going to talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>in a future video or acknowledge it, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>he did, though he did that without direct video.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he said that he basically said that he

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<v Speaker 2>was able to control the narrative, that basically people are lemmings,

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<v Speaker 2>and that he can tell people what to say and

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<v Speaker 2>how to think right. And he mentioned that everyone was

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<v Speaker 2>hating him, calling him the villain, making fun of him. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I was I was confused because I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't really know what the social experiment was,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think this idio well because then I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is the social experiment? Because if you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the past, you're basically saying acting like a terrible person

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<v Speaker 2>will get people to treat you like you're a terrible person.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think the real social experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the fact that he dropped a video of him

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<v Speaker 2>thin as hell and then everyone changed their mind even

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<v Speaker 2>though nothing else changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that was his intention, but I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>am noticing that. Yeah, it's just crazy and wild, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like thin privilege is such a thing. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>people will never know. But this is such a good example.

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<v Speaker 1>It's literally happening right now in front of our eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>and people will still deny fat phobia and thin privilege.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's because the biggest argument because I've also

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<v Speaker 2>struggled personally with fat phobia, right, like, being someone who.

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<v Speaker 3>Is fat phobic, I will admit that. And it's uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've kind of talked about it, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>your your viewer knows that you're overweight, right, Yeah, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>do you mind if I talk about it?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a point where I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I'm worried because I want you to be healthy, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I want you to thin means healthy, and you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned you're like thin doesn't mean healthy mm hmm. And

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<v Speaker 2>then for me, though, I was like, but it sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I still struggle with it because for me, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>but to be healthy physically means like you're working out

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<v Speaker 2>right and you're eating your greens and your veggies, and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess for me, I've always been told that if

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<v Speaker 2>you do those things, you're going to be thinner, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that is just the result that occurs when you

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<v Speaker 2>do those things. So I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe that fat phobia exists because if you are

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote healthy, you eat right, you exercise regularly, which

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<v Speaker 2>is healthy, you will inevitably be thinner.

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<v Speaker 1>This is such a complex topic, yeah, and I struggle

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<v Speaker 1>with it because I don't want to be fat phobic, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think people should be comfortable in their skin.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think I've struggled with my weight and my.

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<v Speaker 2>Self image because of the way that the media kind

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<v Speaker 2>of shovels all of this shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Down our throats.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do try to be mindful and respectful of

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<v Speaker 2>other people's struggles and all this stuff. And I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do think pretty privilege is a thing. Absolutely, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that. I do think that people who

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<v Speaker 2>are fat get treated differently in a negative way because

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<v Speaker 2>of the way they look. I think there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stigma around that and a lot of negative stereotyping. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>they all think they're lazy and gross, and eat NonStop

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<v Speaker 2>up and but yeah, I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe it exists because they think that if you

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<v Speaker 2>are fat, it's like your fault.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, if you eat a lot your it.

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<v Speaker 1>Means you're lazy. And so I don't know, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>of the matter is they just they just don't like

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<v Speaker 1>fat people, period.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that is the that is the base.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and they use oh but your health, but your

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<v Speaker 1>health they use it to cover to make themselves feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Better or justified in that right, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not relevant. But that's all. That's such a

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<v Speaker 1>complicated topic. But I feel like this is just a

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<v Speaker 1>very simple example of that happening with Nikokato, and it

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to other muck bogers in general. If you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the comment section of an overweight, chubby, fat, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>non thin muck bog person, the comments are so different

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<v Speaker 1>from a thin person eating these.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably about like how yeah, it's probably like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>the food looks so good, I love you, I love

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<v Speaker 2>your outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did you go? Friend? I wish I could eat

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<v Speaker 1>that much without gaining a pound. And then yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the fat person eats the same thing. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you disgusting, gross obese person, go on a diet, go

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<v Speaker 1>on a run. Yeah, the energy is so different. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's happening with Nikokato and Avocado, And I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if people are understanding it or if

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<v Speaker 1>they care to understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I think with Nikkada, there's also that added

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<v Speaker 2>layer that, like you said, people don't know there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of newer people that don't know about the drama

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<v Speaker 2>that he's been entrenched in in the past, like so

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<v Speaker 2>to him, so to a lot of newer people or

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<v Speaker 2>subscribers who don't know about that, they do see it

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<v Speaker 2>as uh, an obese guy going on a fitness journey

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<v Speaker 2>and being successful, right, which is But like what's crazy

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<v Speaker 2>to me is even if you thought that, even if

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<v Speaker 2>you only knew him from the last six months, his

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<v Speaker 2>six months of videos were unhinged, regardless of his weight,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of what he was eating or how much his personality,

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<v Speaker 2>the way he behaved was manic and like crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but a lot of people knew that as a

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<v Speaker 1>persona and a character and an act that he's putting up.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I also find very interesting is he so

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<v Speaker 1>when He's not in that persona of like this crazy, manic,

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<v Speaker 1>like outrageous, boisterous person. He is calm, quiet and just

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<v Speaker 1>speaks like a normal person. They all think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>real Nick. Oh my god, we have the real Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>In his reveal video. He's two hundred and fifty pounds

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<v Speaker 1>skinnier and he's speaking in a very calm manner. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, we finally have the real Nick back. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's so funny because we do not know who the

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<v Speaker 1>real Nick is. Nobody knows who the real Nick is,

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<v Speaker 1>well other than that too.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's weird because his calmness also feels a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit crazy to me, Like his calmness is an act,

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<v Speaker 2>because who actually talks like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like that's also another persona of his.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's his. They Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's weird because like when I watched clips of

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm back. It was all a dream, I'm happy,

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, okay, no.

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<v Speaker 1>You sound like a crazy person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, it's it sounded like there was no personality,

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<v Speaker 2>like his eyes were glazed over.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is not who you are. No

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<v Speaker 3>one speaks like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like he's a scary person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I did not like him when he was fat,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do not like him now that he's like

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<v Speaker 3>His weight didn't matter. He is a terrible person at

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<v Speaker 3>matter what he wears, I will not like him.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think because people are talking people who know

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<v Speaker 1>about the Stephanie Sue drama, do you think him wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the giant pandom mask was kind of like a dig

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely believe that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everything he does is calculated. I think there

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<v Speaker 2>is a subliminal message for everything, because he gets.

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<v Speaker 3>Off on thinking that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like so much smarter than everybody and like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do all of this to be subversive

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<v Speaker 2>and you know edgy and like no, not a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people are gonna get it, And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>he like gets off on being that kind of person.

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<v Speaker 2>So I absolutely think it is subliminal. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>knew that people were going to talk about it and

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<v Speaker 2>have theories and that it would continue to create buzz

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<v Speaker 2>and keep him relevant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, perhaps that's what I'm people think. I also think

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of like is weirdly obsessed with her because

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<v Speaker 1>she is the one person who really took him down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, like took him down at boundaries.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she got lawyers involved and she just shut

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<v Speaker 1>everything down. I remember when she's like release the footage,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just never did. He never addressed it. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she was one that person who really took him down.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it still bothers him.

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<v Speaker 2>You sent me the video by Bose who I really

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<v Speaker 2>liked those videos. But one thing that she brought up

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<v Speaker 2>was the fact that he's clearly jealous of Stephanie's life

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<v Speaker 2>and her success. And because like, let's be honest, if

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<v Speaker 2>why would you be so Like, I don't know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>just super.

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<v Speaker 3>Negative towards her. He kept trying to bring her into.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit when she didn't want to go into it, Like

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<v Speaker 2>he's trying to bring her down. The only like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't people are gonna remember, some people probably will. But

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things for her was her safety in

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<v Speaker 2>her house.

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<v Speaker 3>And so there's a point.

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<v Speaker 2>Where Stephanie like left to go to the bathroom, and

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<v Speaker 2>when she reviewed footage, she saw Niko Cotta just going

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<v Speaker 2>around taking pictures around her house, around her house, and

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, I don't know what that could be

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<v Speaker 2>other than like, are you taking pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>Of where my security cameras are?

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<v Speaker 2>But Bos was saying no, I think it's because he's jealous,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I one hundred percent agree with her.

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<v Speaker 2>He was probably taking pictures of her nice fancy things

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<v Speaker 2>to send it into a group chat to be like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, look at all of like who would

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<v Speaker 2>pay ten thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>Dollars for this stove? This is ridiculous. She doesn't deserve it.

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<v Speaker 1>All she does is you know, a jealous, mean girl,

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<v Speaker 1>Because he would I don't know if you saw those

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<v Speaker 1>compilations where he would talk about Stephanie Sue randomly, and

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<v Speaker 1>this was before they even collapsed, and he would make

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<v Speaker 1>remarks like, oh my god, she's so rich. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>have you guys seen her house. Oh my god, she

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<v Speaker 1>lives in such a nice house. How does she make

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<v Speaker 1>so much money? Yeah, And he would make those remarks,

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<v Speaker 1>and he made the same exact remarks in his collab

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<v Speaker 1>and in his videos and videos after he met up

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<v Speaker 1>with her, just like little digs that come off as compliments. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what is that called backhanded compliments? Backhanded compliments?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And you it's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I notice it because I've been subject

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<v Speaker 2>to a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of people like Nico who are who do better.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can right away, yeah, because I'm like, there

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<v Speaker 2>was no reason to say that it didn't contribute anything

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<v Speaker 2>to the conversation other than to hurt the person you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking to.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure Stephanie felt it in her body. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>every single time he made a snide comment, and every

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<v Speaker 1>single time she felt like something was off, her body

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<v Speaker 1>was telling her. And oh my god, Bose's video is

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<v Speaker 1>so good. I highly recommend everyone watching it. I will

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<v Speaker 1>link her part one in part two below. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>watch her videos. She is on point with everything, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I literally agree with every single point she makes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, And I just and I believe Stephanie so

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<v Speaker 2>much more because I've also followed her throughout her career

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<v Speaker 2>as well. But she made a video, she made a

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<v Speaker 2>photo follow up video, and then she said, I'm done

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<v Speaker 2>talking about this. If you want to go further, the

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<v Speaker 2>only place we need to go now is you give

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<v Speaker 2>me permission.

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<v Speaker 3>To release the footage.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't do that, there's no reason to

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<v Speaker 2>keep talking about this because nothing productive is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So, by the way, she's those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who don't know about the Stephanie s U drama. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>she had security cameras in her house when they did

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<v Speaker 1>a collab and he went over to her house, and

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<v Speaker 1>so she has security footage of him taking pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>everything in her house. And California is a two party

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<v Speaker 1>consent state, so she cannot publicly release the footage without

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<v Speaker 1>his permission, and he never gave her consent to do so, so.

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<v Speaker 3>She and she told him in her video.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, this is me publicly telling you you

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<v Speaker 2>have footage that I don't have access to give you

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<v Speaker 2>permission to release all that uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because they did a bunch of collab videos and

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<v Speaker 1>he has the unedited full version, and he she wholeheartedly

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<v Speaker 1>believed that if the audience watched the uncut version and

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<v Speaker 1>saw every single thing that Niko Kado said to Stephanie,

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<v Speaker 1>that the audience could make up their own minds. And

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<v Speaker 1>he never released that footage. Never.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he needs to manipulate footage to manipulate the storyline.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he knows he's wrong. He knows he is

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<v Speaker 1>a manipulator.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you can just Oh, it's just so frustrating

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<v Speaker 2>because he is.

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<v Speaker 3>A he's a terrible person. He is proven, he's a

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<v Speaker 3>terrible person.

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<v Speaker 2>And even here's the thing, even if you say I'm

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<v Speaker 2>actually a good person and I play a terrible character.

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<v Speaker 2>When you play a terrible character in a movie, it's

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<v Speaker 2>isolated to that movie, right, But Nico was this character

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<v Speaker 2>in his life to real people, to you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>so the trauma that he called Stephanie is real. She

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<v Speaker 2>had to go through it, she had to work through it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when you're a good person playing a bad character,

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<v Speaker 2>but those bad things that you do as that character

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<v Speaker 2>have real life impact, you are no longer a good

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<v Speaker 2>guy playing a bad guy. You are just a bad guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think, Which is why for me when

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<v Speaker 2>he's like it's really difficult for me to believe that

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<v Speaker 2>someone who has for the past.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight years.

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<v Speaker 2>Harmed people, harmed himself for the sake of being clickbaity.

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<v Speaker 3>To be relevant.

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<v Speaker 2>I find it really hard to believe that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they can stay in that same environment and be better.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it didn't involve other people, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really care if he harms himself or does whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to do to get the views and to

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<v Speaker 1>go viral. Yeah, I think he's addicted to that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he knows how to do it clearly. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching this video right now. It's number one on trending

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube. It has twenty five million views. And he

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<v Speaker 1>posted this. He posted this yesterday, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he said Friday. Right, that's what the article said.

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<v Speaker 1>But I swear I found this out yesterday. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know, but anyway, I found

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<v Speaker 3>this out yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I found this out yesterday, So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say twenty four hours, he got twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>million views, And I think he's loving the attention.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, good for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the weight loss, if that was his goal, great

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<v Speaker 1>for him. Going viral, if that was his goal, great

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<v Speaker 1>for him. But for me, it's just like everybody's reaction

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<v Speaker 1>and how they're reacting to it is so interesting. And

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<v Speaker 1>I hope like a bigger YouTuber and a bigger creator

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<v Speaker 1>will point this out, like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone who's like a little bit who's better at putting

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<v Speaker 2>their thoughts together in a comprehensive way, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And who have a larger audience and who have done

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<v Speaker 1>documentaries on Nikokado, Like, look at how the audience is

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<v Speaker 1>reacting to this.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to watch what d'angela Wallace has to say.

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<v Speaker 1>How to know if he would talk about him.

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<v Speaker 2>He wouldn't because it's not in his like sphere of content,

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<v Speaker 2>But like, I just love his assessments of things, his

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<v Speaker 2>thought process.

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<v Speaker 3>The way that he delivers the news.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wish, I wish, but yeah, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>they a lot of them do celebrity stuff, TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>Drama stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if this would do it, but

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<v Speaker 2>it would be great because it is an interesting topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't think people are focusing on that

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I think it's just more prevalent to me

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<v Speaker 1>because I am an obese person. I am a big person,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've dealt with fat phobia, and I noticed all

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<v Speaker 1>of these faphobic things. So I'm sure if you've never

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<v Speaker 1>dealt with that, you just it just doesn't really stand

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<v Speaker 1>out to you. But the YouTuber videos that I have

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<v Speaker 1>seen are all like praising Nick. They're so amazed, they're

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<v Speaker 1>so bamboozled, they're like, oh my god, credit to Niko Kado.

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<v Speaker 1>He fooled us. All this is I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Did I don't understand what did he fool like he

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand what the fooling part was.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know either gone.

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<v Speaker 2>For two years and then pretended like he wasn't gone

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<v Speaker 2>for two years, but he was gone for two years.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't think you should win for that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm trying to figure out what the.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody says a good transformation first of all, So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's so shocking, because I mean, I get it.

427
00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:53.519
<v Speaker 1>I get it people who don't follow him closely, who

428
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<v Speaker 1>don't know his online persona that well, are so shocked

429
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<v Speaker 1>because he has been consistently posting for the last two

430
00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:03.079
<v Speaker 1>years where he is four hundred pounds, and all of

431
00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:06.039
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, he takes like a three month hiatus and bam,

432
00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:09.680
<v Speaker 1>he's super thin and he lost all the weight and

433
00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>he's like a totally different person according to the whole

434
00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:16.119
<v Speaker 1>entire audience. And so I get why that is so shocking.

435
00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:18.400
<v Speaker 1>But if people and I know there are people who

436
00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:21.680
<v Speaker 1>have followed Nikokado closely because I see those comments, they

437
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:25.279
<v Speaker 1>are not at all surprised by this transformation. It was

438
00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:28.119
<v Speaker 1>just a matter of when, because he has said time

439
00:23:28.119 --> 00:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and time again, even when he was a smaller creator,

440
00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:33.799
<v Speaker 1>before he got uber famous, he always said he was

441
00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:36.359
<v Speaker 1>going to stop doing muck Bongs when he turned thirty,

442
00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and then he was going to lose all the weight.

443
00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:40.839
<v Speaker 1>He's said it time and time again. So the people

444
00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:44.400
<v Speaker 1>who followed muck Bongs and Nikokado closely, like they all

445
00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:46.759
<v Speaker 1>were expecting this whatever.

446
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:48.519
<v Speaker 3>At the end of the day, it doesn't really affect me.

447
00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:52.519
<v Speaker 2>I still hold on to my opinion of his character

448
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:56.160
<v Speaker 2>until I am shown otherwise.

449
00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:00.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe he Oh. Another thing people are talking

450
00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:04.039
<v Speaker 1>about is people are confused about the whole Stephanie Sue

451
00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Panda hat thing, and he's talking about how he made

452
00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:09.079
<v Speaker 1>himself the villain, and people are like, oh, so was

453
00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:12.759
<v Speaker 1>that whole Stephanie Sue drama fake? Like no, were they

454
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>in on it together? And my ye, her answer is no, no, no, no, no,

455
00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:21.319
<v Speaker 1>never ever, ever, Stephanie would never do that.

456
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<v Speaker 2>That is insane to think that that is insane to

457
00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:25.839
<v Speaker 2>think that.

458
00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:28.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no he was, No, She's not that.

459
00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I understand I don't know Stephanie Sue personally,

460
00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:36.240
<v Speaker 2>but you can you can just judge by the content,

461
00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:39.079
<v Speaker 2>the things that her employees have to say about her,

462
00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:43.359
<v Speaker 2>the way that she's handled the controversies that she's come

463
00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:46.119
<v Speaker 2>into play with, you know, like you can just the

464
00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:49.759
<v Speaker 2>fact that even when this whole drama thing was happening

465
00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:52.839
<v Speaker 2>with her, she there were moments where she was like,

466
00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk about things, but I wanted that

467
00:24:56.720 --> 00:24:57.799
<v Speaker 2>person in the room with me.

468
00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And she's like, so I'm not gonna talk.

469
00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:03.079
<v Speaker 3>About it, and I'm like that shows really stand up character.

470
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And Nikokado was trying to push her into doing

471
00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>it behind their back so that he can expose this and.

472
00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Use it for content, yeah, or like he could use

473
00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:15.359
<v Speaker 2>it as like leverage and blackmail to be like, hey,

474
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.160
<v Speaker 2>if you don't do this, I'm gonna expose you, which

475
00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:19.240
<v Speaker 2>he already did.

476
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:22.519
<v Speaker 1>He was doing that to Stephanie without even knowing much.

477
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>But like you said, every single move of Nikokado's everything

478
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:31.319
<v Speaker 1>he says, everything he does, everything he posts, is very calculated.

479
00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:35.839
<v Speaker 1>There's a purpose that he's always trying to do something,

480
00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>So you can't trust anything he says.

481
00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:41.799
<v Speaker 2>I will not be consuming anything from his channel. The

482
00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:44.079
<v Speaker 2>other thing, too, is a lot of those things that

483
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:48.759
<v Speaker 2>he did trigger a lot of previous traumas for me

484
00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:52.319
<v Speaker 2>because it just reminds me a lot of other people

485
00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:53.599
<v Speaker 2>in my life.

486
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:54.079
<v Speaker 1>From the past.

487
00:25:54.759 --> 00:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Uh So I don't wanna give him my attention, so

488
00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I will not be doing that. Wish wish him the best. Hope,

489
00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:09.839
<v Speaker 2>hope he's getting help. I hope he's getting the help

490
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:10.279
<v Speaker 2>he needs.

491
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not excited. Excited is not the right word to use,

492
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>but I'm kind of interested in what he posts next,

493
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:22.039
<v Speaker 1>where he goes with his YouTube career now that he's thinner.

494
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, he said that he's going to keep doing mo bus.

495
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, which is very interesting. And what's going to

496
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.799
<v Speaker 1>be even more interesting is if he keeps doing these

497
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:35.839
<v Speaker 1>fast food junk food huge muk buns and he like

498
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:37.920
<v Speaker 1>all his comment section is going to be just the

499
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.799
<v Speaker 1>complete opposite of what it normally is. That is going

500
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:41.799
<v Speaker 1>to be very interesting.

501
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:42.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

502
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:45.799
<v Speaker 2>So we'll get to see what new character he's developed

503
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:49.599
<v Speaker 2>for us for the next two years. I guess, Oh,

504
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:52.599
<v Speaker 2>maybe he's a painter now, or.

505
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he'll get back into violin. I don't know.

506
00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:56.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

507
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Uh. You know what's crazy though, he said that he

508
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:02.759
<v Speaker 1>hasn't posted an actual video, like a real time video

509
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:05.839
<v Speaker 1>in two years. What was he doing in those two

510
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.759
<v Speaker 1>years he was losing weight or.

511
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:11.599
<v Speaker 3>Because maybe he checked into a facility.

512
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Because he's a very public figure. People, Yeah, he were outside,

513
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>people would have noticed him. They would have taken a picture,

514
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>posted it on TikTok Instagram. I don't know, and he

515
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:24.200
<v Speaker 1>has not been seeing Nobody knew that he had lost weight,

516
00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:27.079
<v Speaker 1>So what the hell? Where was he? The girl?

517
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:29.119
<v Speaker 3>Straight up, I think he was. He must have been

518
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:34.279
<v Speaker 3>committed into a facility of some sort.

519
00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:40.039
<v Speaker 2>That well, because if you think about it, when you

520
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 2>check into like those facilities for whatever, uh, you can't

521
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 2>have contact with the outside world. You can't have your phone,

522
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, like there's a lot of restrictions. So if

523
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:54.119
<v Speaker 2>he was, Yeah, so like one theory could be he

524
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 2>was recording all this content to output it so that

525
00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>because he knew he wouldn't be able to for a

526
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:02.400
<v Speaker 2>period of time that he was checked in.

527
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>There was a reason why he only wore black and

528
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:08.319
<v Speaker 1>red shirts for continuity, so that people he had a

529
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>bunch of prerecorded videos. He had been planning this for

530
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 1>so long, it's crazy. So yeah, when I think about

531
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:18.839
<v Speaker 1>it like that, it is pretty crazy. He really committed

532
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>to the bit.

533
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 3>But what's the bit.

534
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I guess the bit is everybody like him tricking people

535
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>that he was still fat when he was losing weight

536
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 1>the whole entire time. I guess that's the bit. That's

537
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the gotcha moment.

538
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:36.599
<v Speaker 3>That's so ridiculous. I keep been calling him a hero

539
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:37.559
<v Speaker 3>for doing that.

540
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Not everybody is, but I think everybody's just so shocked.

541
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:43.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean it's very shocking.

542
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:45.759
<v Speaker 2>And the fact that he lost the weight, even if

543
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.839
<v Speaker 2>he lost it surgically, like surgery weight loss, it takes

544
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:51.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot of work to actually lose weight.

545
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, who knows what he didn't no matter what.

546
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>No, he didn't say how he lost the weight. Yet

547
00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:01.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's gonna share with us, Like

548
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:02.519
<v Speaker 1>what think I will?

549
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think. But what I'm saying is, no matter

550
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:08.039
<v Speaker 2>what route he took to lose the weight, it was

551
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:10.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of hartwork. It was a lot of hard work,

552
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:12.119
<v Speaker 2>no matter what route you take to weight loss, whether

553
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>it's surgery, exercising, other Like a lot.

554
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Of shots are accusing him of taking ozambic.

555
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.319
<v Speaker 3>But what people don't understand is it still takes work. Yeah,

556
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:25.079
<v Speaker 3>but people still take dedication.

557
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:28.519
<v Speaker 2>So so like you can't take that away from him.

558
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:30.759
<v Speaker 3>Like he was very dedicated. He was very determined. It

559
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 3>takes a.

560
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Lot of you know, will power and consistency to get

561
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 2>to accomplish what he did.

562
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but again on that part, like that's what you

563
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:42.519
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do, and ye did.

564
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 2>It, you know how with the whole Stephanie Sue drama.

565
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Bose mentioned that when he came when he made a

566
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:53.039
<v Speaker 2>response video and he was like, I have receipts and

567
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:57.240
<v Speaker 2>he would just screenshot like little random messages.

568
00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>So pathetic.

569
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like there there was no context, There was

570
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:05.039
<v Speaker 2>no and there was no relevance to what you like.

571
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>The thing was Stephanie's like, why did you take pictures

572
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 2>around my house? And he would be like all of

573
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.319
<v Speaker 2>her stuff is expensive, and she's like, but why did

574
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:13.640
<v Speaker 2>you take pictures around my house?

575
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Right?

576
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>And he'd be like you know this Muchmonger doesn't like you.

577
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:21.359
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, no, you keep deflecting. You're not answering

578
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:23.960
<v Speaker 2>the question. You're just making all these other outrageous claims

579
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:26.359
<v Speaker 2>to like make people divert their attention.

580
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like it worked, it works for any more.

581
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:31.240
<v Speaker 3>But that's why I'm saying, like.

582
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Great, he lost the weight. That takes a lot of dedication.

583
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:35.319
<v Speaker 2>That is awesome.

584
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:38.240
<v Speaker 3>You do you boo, But still you need to.

585
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Be a better person. That is that is the more

586
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:42.960
<v Speaker 2>important thing. And I feel like this is just you

587
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:45.000
<v Speaker 2>deflecting and being like, people will like me now that

588
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm skinny, and they'll forget that I was an absolute.

589
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.319
<v Speaker 3>Monster because it's kind of what's happening.

590
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

591
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you know, just my two cents. Don't forget

592
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 3>the monsters are monsters, that's.

593
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:00.799
<v Speaker 1>All, unless they've really changed. And I guess they can

594
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.559
<v Speaker 1>change to be continued and we'll see. Yeah, the Kokado

595
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>shows us going forward. But Tricia Padus is trying really

596
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:09.359
<v Speaker 1>hard to get him on her podcast.

597
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:11.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he'll go. She's huge.

598
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh they have a history. You don't know. I did

599
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>a long time Oh oh no, no, no, she flaked

600
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>on him, Yeah, a long time ago, and then they

601
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:24.359
<v Speaker 1>ended up doing a podcast.

602
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:26.839
<v Speaker 3>I remember he was super busy about it and that.

603
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was like one of the first dramas he

604
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>was in that I was around for.

605
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I'm surprised. I don't I don't know if he'll

606
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>do it. I feel like he'll just stay alone. In

607
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.119
<v Speaker 1>his little bubble for now.

608
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I think he will do it. That seems like

609
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity for someone who is so interested in staying relevant. Hmmm,

610
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 2>that's so focused on manipulating the algorithm or whatever.

611
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's going to pass that up.

612
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what he's going to do next. And look,

613
00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm an aunt.

614
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.880
<v Speaker 2>That's not like I mean, the reason why social science

615
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.759
<v Speaker 2>and psychology and all that stuff exists is because we

616
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:10.920
<v Speaker 2>are people. Yeah, that is not something that he discovered today.

617
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, but he he just loves it.

618
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>He's he's in his villain era. I guess. Oh maybe no,

619
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:20.079
<v Speaker 1>he no, I know, he.

620
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:22.519
<v Speaker 3>Was in his villain era. That's what this whole thing was.

621
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:23.480
<v Speaker 3>He was in it.

622
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, and now he's demure, very mindful, very

623
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>considerate dude.

624
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 2>That got so old three hours after it got big.

625
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.079
<v Speaker 1>I know, but I just can't I help myself. I'm

626
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:38.519
<v Speaker 1>still here.

627
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:40.039
<v Speaker 3>I know it, but.

628
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.119
<v Speaker 2>I've just I've never experienced so you know me, I

629
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 2>am so behind the times when something and when I

630
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:47.880
<v Speaker 2>come to you and I'm like, WHOA, this thing happened,

631
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, that happened two weeks ago, it's over now.

632
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:51.799
<v Speaker 3>Like I I'm very behind the times.

633
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:56.039
<v Speaker 2>This was the first like trend or viral thing that

634
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:59.079
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of present for as it was happening

635
00:32:59.319 --> 00:32:59.720
<v Speaker 2>mm hm.

636
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Or as it was relevant.

637
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>And I've just never seen a trend get annoying so quickly.

638
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I wonder why, though, was it because every single person,

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<v Speaker 1>every single brand, every person, Yeah, I was doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why.

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<v Speaker 3>I have every single person.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like on talk shows and commercials, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm hearing it too many because before it

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<v Speaker 2>used to just be on TikTok that it was just

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<v Speaker 2>you just scroll and you saw the same people doing

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<v Speaker 2>the same trend. But now it was everywhere outside of

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<v Speaker 2>my phone, and I was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>My god, this is too much mindful to demure, to demure, Yeah,
