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<v Speaker 1>This show is produced and hosted by Mark Webber.

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<v Speaker 2>The show is sponsored by G three of Parow.

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<v Speaker 1>The views expressed in the following program are those of

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<v Speaker 1>the sponsor and not necessarily the opinion of seven tenor

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<v Speaker 1>or iHeartMedia. Who is Mark Weber. He's a self made

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<v Speaker 1>business executive here to help you find your success from

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<v Speaker 1>the New York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>His global success story in the luxury world of fashion

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<v Speaker 1>is inspirational. He's gone from.

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<v Speaker 3>Clerk to CEO twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark is classic proof that the American dream is alive

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<v Speaker 1>and well, here's your host of Always in Fashion, Mark Weber.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Weber, I ask you what do you work for?

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<v Speaker 4>I asked myself why do we work? Interesting thing is

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<v Speaker 4>it depends who asked the question. Ask your boss why

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<v Speaker 4>he works to help make the company successful? Ask your

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<v Speaker 4>wife for significant other? Do you work more to ensure

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<v Speaker 4>we have a secure life? If it's your children? Why

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<v Speaker 4>do I work to provide you with an education to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure you have a better life than I have? Now?

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<v Speaker 4>What would you tell yourself? Well, first of all, I

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<v Speaker 4>know work is work. If it's work, if you enjoy

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<v Speaker 4>what you're doing. It's never work. It's part of a

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<v Speaker 4>great way to live your life. Having said that, I work, hmm,

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<v Speaker 4>I have no choice. I have to make a living,

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<v Speaker 4>I have to provide for my family. I work to

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<v Speaker 4>afford the best things I can. I work to enjoy

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<v Speaker 4>my life. I work to achieve success, to be proud

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<v Speaker 4>of myself, to accomplish something. Now, if you're listen closely,

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<v Speaker 4>this is starting to sound like you work for your

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<v Speaker 4>goals more than anything else. And I think that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we all have to be happy with ourselves.

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<v Speaker 4>It's important to be proud of yourselves. And some of us, look,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not easy out there. It's hard to make a living.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard to get jobs, it's hard to say employed.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard to deal with the people are telling you

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<v Speaker 4>what to do. It's hard to deal with life in general.

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<v Speaker 4>Work isn't supposed to be easy. Nobody ever said it

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<v Speaker 4>was fair. But if you enjoy what you're doing, it's

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<v Speaker 4>really not work. But the more you hear about this,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that it's true that we work for other reasons,

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<v Speaker 4>not money. We all have to live with ourselves. It'stand

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<v Speaker 4>to reason. We should know what we want. Perhaps not

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<v Speaker 4>how to get there, but we know it could be survival.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of us work to make it day to day.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of us live paycheck to paycheck. Some of us

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<v Speaker 4>get lucky and get inspired. I think about this all

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<v Speaker 4>the time. It's changed me for years. Over and over,

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<v Speaker 4>I've rethought that. At first, my sole goal was to

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<v Speaker 4>make enough money not to live in the city projects.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't want to be poor. My interest shifted as

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<v Speaker 4>my focus moved away from money. I then realized that

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to accomplish. I wanted to be proud of myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted my wife to be proud of me. I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted my family to be proud of what I was accomplishing.

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<v Speaker 4>I should also not that I wanted my wife's family

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<v Speaker 4>to recognize she wasn't wrong in choosing me. So many

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<v Speaker 4>years later, I was sitting with my father in law

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<v Speaker 4>and mother in law one day. I was doing pretty well,

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<v Speaker 4>and my father in law looked over to me and

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<v Speaker 4>he said, Susie always said you'd be okay, which you

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<v Speaker 4>could imagine the conversations all throughout the years and why

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<v Speaker 4>she picked me. But I wanted them to think that

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<v Speaker 4>I did the right thing and that she was right

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<v Speaker 4>in picking me. I wanted things. I wanted stuff. I

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<v Speaker 4>never dreamed too high, you know, at the beginning an apartment,

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<v Speaker 4>I dreamed about a house. I wanted to own my

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<v Speaker 4>own car, not my parents' car, and then eventually I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to own a sports car convertible. I never lost

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<v Speaker 4>sight of investment. Navy suits, white shirts with ulinks because

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted the degree of elegance. This was my uniform.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to look the part. I wanted to blend in,

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<v Speaker 4>but I wanted it to stand out by looking as

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<v Speaker 4>best as I could. I keep saying I wanted I'm selfish.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we all are. It's okay to take care

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<v Speaker 4>of yourself, to want what you want. It's also okay

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<v Speaker 4>to have an ego. It'll drive you. I never understood

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<v Speaker 4>the conversation egos don't work. Anybody without an ego can't

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<v Speaker 4>be successful. That's the way it is now. I suppose

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<v Speaker 4>the way you manage your ego making sure your head

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't get too big for the pillow you're sleeping at night. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>as life went on, it wasn't about money for me.

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<v Speaker 4>It was about accomplishing, having a career, making your name

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<v Speaker 4>for myself. Work hard, work smart, prove your worth. Make

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<v Speaker 4>sure the company is paying you what you're worth, because

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<v Speaker 4>if you're doing what you're worth, you're worth a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of money. I didn't work for money, though, I worked

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<v Speaker 4>to quench my unquenchable curiosity, to learn, to grow, to reflect,

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<v Speaker 4>and to be proud. So why do I work? Funny,

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't about money. Money is simply a means to

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<v Speaker 4>keeping score, how you're doing against the guy next to you,

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<v Speaker 4>at the gal next to you. Money for me was

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<v Speaker 4>about being there. I believed at one point in time

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<v Speaker 4>that money would take care of itself, as my first

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<v Speaker 4>mentor advised me prior to my first job interview, I

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<v Speaker 4>have mentioned this before I was going on my first

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<v Speaker 4>interview for PVH. I had met a headhunter who was

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<v Speaker 4>introduced to me became a mentor to me. That first

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<v Speaker 4>day I met him and at one point he asked me,

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<v Speaker 4>how much money do you want to make? I've had

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<v Speaker 4>fifty thousand dollars and he said, no, that's not the

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<v Speaker 4>right answer. They're going to ask you how much you

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<v Speaker 4>want to earn, and the answer you ought to give

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<v Speaker 4>them is as follows, money doesn't matter to me. Now

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<v Speaker 4>what matters me is to establish myself in a good company,

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<v Speaker 4>a company that can help teach me what I needed

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<v Speaker 4>to learn and recognize I have a contribution to make

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<v Speaker 4>to the company. And in time, I am sure money

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<v Speaker 4>will take care of itself. And I believe that, and

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<v Speaker 4>it took a very important place within my thinking. Then

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<v Speaker 4>now forever, I tell you all out there, those are

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<v Speaker 4>you just beginning. If you do your job, you do

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<v Speaker 4>it well, you do it better than the next guy

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<v Speaker 4>or the next gal, You'll be taken care of, and

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<v Speaker 4>over time, if you're not, you'll find another company that will.

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<v Speaker 4>I worked to develop a position in life. The funniest

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<v Speaker 4>thing is, upon reflection, money as I grew older, was

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<v Speaker 4>not about money. It became about walking away. It became

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<v Speaker 4>what we know as few money, the power to do

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<v Speaker 4>what you want, the power to be able to negotiate

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<v Speaker 4>your way through anything. So as I got older and prouder,

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<v Speaker 4>some say I had the first penny I ever made.

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<v Speaker 4>Funny the impression I created because I did everything I wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>I bought everything I wanted. Yet I always preached saying

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<v Speaker 4>and careful spending. That was part of my mantra. I

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<v Speaker 4>always felt that I don't mind spending money, but I

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<v Speaker 4>hate wasting it. And I prepared for my career as

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<v Speaker 4>it winded down. I walk like a man. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>tonight's show. And joining me on Tonight's walk, my lawyer,

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<v Speaker 4>my co host, my son, Jesse Weber, Jesse, Why do

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<v Speaker 4>you work?

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<v Speaker 3>Why do I work? Money? Now, I look as simple?

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<v Speaker 4>Huh.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, look, you have to work in order to support

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<v Speaker 5>your life, make a livelihood, support your family. But you

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<v Speaker 5>also hope that you do something that you can build

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<v Speaker 5>a career in and enjoy and look back and say

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<v Speaker 5>I accomplish something.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Well, money's important. Now I'm going to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>when you ask me why do I work? But I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know that's it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, if you told me tomorrow, boom, you get five

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<v Speaker 5>hundred million dollars, You don't have to work at a

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<v Speaker 5>job nine to five anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think I'm going to do? I will

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<v Speaker 3>tell you.

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<v Speaker 5>Though I've thought about this, I said, I kind of

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<v Speaker 5>fantasize what my life would be like.

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<v Speaker 3>I still think I would maybe do a little something.

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't go out where we're crazy, but I might

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<v Speaker 5>have a little side project of some kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you look who you're esky. I don't have five

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<v Speaker 4>hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I wouldn't toil away for no reason. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a big part of it is too pay your bills,

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<v Speaker 5>pay your expenses, support your family.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you got to keep your mind busy. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>a big part of why I'm still going at it.

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<v Speaker 2>But here you go.

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<v Speaker 4>If I told you, if I told you my life's

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<v Speaker 4>goal was to be able to walk away, what would

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<v Speaker 4>you say?

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<v Speaker 5>I would say, it's not relevant. Most of our audience

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<v Speaker 5>is young. They're not thinking about that. They're starting out,

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<v Speaker 5>they're building their careers from the beginning. I would say,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not relevant.

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<v Speaker 4>And don't you think that I thought like that when

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<v Speaker 4>I was your age. I remember Larry Phillips, the CEO

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<v Speaker 4>of Phillips fan Us, and came into one day and

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<v Speaker 4>had a plan. He wanted to retain his top twenty executives,

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<v Speaker 4>all of us were averaging below thirty or thirty one

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<v Speaker 4>or thirty two years old. They came up with a

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<v Speaker 4>plan that was worth a couple of million dollars based

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<v Speaker 4>on an insurance policy that said, if you stayed drug free,

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<v Speaker 4>alcohol free for ten years. At the end of that

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<v Speaker 4>ten years, you'd be vested in a plan that would

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<v Speaker 4>pay you if you stayed with the company for those

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<v Speaker 4>ten years a million dollars or two million dollars over

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<v Speaker 4>the next twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if that's what you're going with, yeah, I can

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<v Speaker 3>kind of see that. And I look.

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<v Speaker 4>I said to him, you know, hey, you're asking me

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<v Speaker 4>now I'm thirty two years old, whether I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>give up and commit to something that is meaningful. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't need to take drugs, I don't need to drink.

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<v Speaker 4>But the reality is, do I really think I'll make

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<v Speaker 4>another ten years? He said, why not? You're one of

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<v Speaker 4>the great guys herema, I said, everybody around me is

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<v Speaker 4>being fired, and frankly, at thirty two years old, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not thinking about my retirement. But the truth be told,

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<v Speaker 4>I got that money and it was amazing. But now,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think all of you tell us the

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<v Speaker 4>time you plan on walking away the career. You choose,

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<v Speaker 4>the path you take, the investments you make, where you

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<v Speaker 4>spend your money, picking that which is important counts.

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<v Speaker 3>See, that's important.

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<v Speaker 5>If that's where you're going with this, Yes, having a budget,

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<v Speaker 5>buying what you could afford planning it out. That's important.

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<v Speaker 5>That's important for all people, no matter of the age. Look,

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<v Speaker 5>I what do I love? I love Ralph Lauren turtlenecks.

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<v Speaker 5>I love them, They're beautiful. The reality is, though for

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<v Speaker 5>one third the price.

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<v Speaker 3>I can get great ones at uniclow.

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<v Speaker 5>I know young people, they've bought expensive cars like Lamborghini,

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<v Speaker 5>like the Lamborghini SUV for what three hundred thousand dollars?

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<v Speaker 5>An Audi you could buy it for fifty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Who are you impressing? I mean, who doesn't love luxury?

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody loves luxury, but you have to be smart about it. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a difference. For example, if I were to buy

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<v Speaker 5>navy suit that I'm going to wear for meetings that

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<v Speaker 5>I am going to wear on tip, that's an investment.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not a car. It's an investment in my actual career.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's the difference. If that's the point that

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<v Speaker 4>In exactly one of the points I'm making to all

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<v Speaker 4>of you tonight. Save your money and press your family

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<v Speaker 4>no one else. I'll tell you a story when I

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<v Speaker 4>and I enjoyed it. And then they put in all

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<v Speaker 4>the tea time booking via computer, and frankly speaking, unless

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<v Speaker 4>it would be two o'clock in the afternon or three

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<v Speaker 4>to join a club. And to make a long story short,

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<v Speaker 4>I went to the five golf clubs that were relatively

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<v Speaker 4>I enjoyed golf and I wanted to be in a

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<v Speaker 4>and there was all these young guys my age, and

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<v Speaker 4>got it, you don't talk about it. And if you're

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<v Speaker 4>one of those people who do, your a moron. I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted no part of that golf club. The second choice

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<v Speaker 4>I went into had old, burnished wood, old fashioned, old money.

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<v Speaker 4>It felt rich, it felt quiet. All the guys there

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<v Speaker 4>were older, They were genuinely. They talked about their golf game,

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<v Speaker 4>They talked about what was taking place in the news.

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<v Speaker 4>They talked about everything but money. Exactly what I said,

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<v Speaker 4>no money talk. I joined that club. I forgured I'd

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<v Speaker 4>knew these guys understood how to spend money and how

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<v Speaker 4>to live their lives. I've always spent my money carefully.

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<v Speaker 4>It didn't want for anything, but I live by the

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<v Speaker 4>motto I don't mind spending money, I hate wasting it.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of which, do you know, Jesse, what a medium

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<v Speaker 4>sized dietquote costs at McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't drink diet coke. But let me take a guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me take a guess. Medium sized diet coke two

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, a medium diet coke at McDonald's is a dollar

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<v Speaker 4>forty nine and with tax one dollar and sixty two cents.

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<v Speaker 4>At Burger King, a small, not a medium, is two

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<v Speaker 4>dollars and forty seven cents, and a medium is three

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So anybody buying soda at Burger King is throwing away

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<v Speaker 4>the hard earned dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think RFK is going to ban it soon, so

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's a different story. But anyway. Credit card debt,

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<v Speaker 4>that's another one I've talked about on the radio. I

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<v Speaker 4>want to screen on anybody. If you get a credit

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<v Speaker 4>card bill and you don't pay it off at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the month, you are the dumbest human being life.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not planning your future better. All you're doing is

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<v Speaker 4>throwing away money. Credit cards charge you anywhere from twenty

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<v Speaker 4>or four percent. Think about what they're charging frankly speaking,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna do this one more time. If you have

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<v Speaker 4>credit card debt, go to a bank, take out a loan,

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<v Speaker 4>make sure you have collateral. That's what they'll need, a

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<v Speaker 4>take away from you. But you're so much better off

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<v Speaker 4>paying a bank loan now of eight percent than twenty

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<v Speaker 4>percent on a credit card. I don't mind spending money,

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<v Speaker 4>I hate wasting it. The point is save money, let

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<v Speaker 4>it work for you, and of course be proud when

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<v Speaker 4>you get older you appreciate it. I'm telling you right now,

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<v Speaker 4>I never once thought about pensions. I have two of them.

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<v Speaker 4>I love them. They're the greatest thing that ever happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Businesses were told back in the day to be competitive,

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<v Speaker 4>provide for your employees' retirement, and the government would step

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<v Speaker 4>in and help. And it's an amazing thing. Now. Some

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<v Speaker 4>people will tell you I have the first penny I

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<v Speaker 4>ever made, and it's funny, but I did everything I wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye'd always preach saying spend carefully, because my goal was

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<v Speaker 4>to walk away like a man. For now, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>take a break and walk like a man always in fashion,

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<v Speaker 4>spend a lifetime of my career building the van Usen brand,

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<v Speaker 4>and I am so pleased that they're back with us

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<v Speaker 4>now talking about suits. Men were dressing up again and

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<v Speaker 4>it's become cool to wear a suit. Suits can be

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<v Speaker 4>won on multiple occasions in multiple ways. You could wear

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<v Speaker 4>a suit formally to go out at night or to

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<v Speaker 4>an event. Could wear a suit to the office with

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<v Speaker 4>or without a tie. If you look closely, now fashion trends,

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<v Speaker 4>suits are being worn with turtlenecks or mark next. The

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<v Speaker 4>choices are endless and every one of them looks right.

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<v Speaker 4>You could really really look the part. I believe that

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<v Speaker 4>packaging yourself is as important does the products you package,

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<v Speaker 4>and wearing suit is one of those things that make

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<v Speaker 4>men look their best. Venuesing invented a new idea. It's

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<v Speaker 4>called the cool flex suit. It's been engineered with stretch technology,

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<v Speaker 4>giving you the most comfortable fit and mobility. It's wrinkle

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<v Speaker 4>resistant fabric, it's cool moisture wiki. It makes it perfect

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<v Speaker 4>for all occasions. As we discussed just now, this new

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<v Speaker 4>amazing and I'm so excited that the van Using company

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<v Speaker 4>is involved in this new technology and is embracing the

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<v Speaker 4>whole idea of dressing up. Let's not forget Venues and

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<v Speaker 4>Maine It's name with dress shirts. It's only proper that

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<v Speaker 4>jcpenny are online at jcpenny dot com. Guys, they're great,

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<v Speaker 4>you should go look at them. Done. Karen began a

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<v Speaker 4>career is one of the finest, most successful, powerful women

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<v Speaker 4>Donna Karen had a young daughter and she had friends

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<v Speaker 4>and Donna invented dk n Y Donna Aaron, New York.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an offshoot of the Donna Karen collection. The same

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<v Speaker 4>concept a lifestyle brand. Then we talk about lifestyle brands,

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<v Speaker 4>what does that really mean? Simply what they say, there

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<v Speaker 4>are brands that follow you throughout your lifestyle. You get

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<v Speaker 4>Karen Decan Why as intimate apparel, as hosiery, as all

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<v Speaker 4>those products. You're getting dressed for work. You get accessorized shoes, handbags,

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<v Speaker 4>and it takes you through the day. The remarkable thing

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<v Speaker 4>about DK and Y clothes for work, they work into

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<v Speaker 4>the evening. The dresses, the suits, the pants, the sweaters,

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<v Speaker 4>the blouse's extraordinary clothes at affordable prices that go from

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<v Speaker 4>day in tonight. Part of your lifestyle is active. You

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<v Speaker 4>have weekends, you have events, you participate in sports. Donna

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<v Speaker 4>Karen's casual clothes did that under the DK and Y label.

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<v Speaker 4>A vast array of casual sportswear that make women look

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<v Speaker 4>That's what a lifestyle brand is. And I need to

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<v Speaker 4>mention DKY active Wear, which is extraordinary. The leggings, the

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<v Speaker 4>sports bras, the sweats. You can wear DKY active wear,

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<v Speaker 4>certainly in the gym, certainly when you're working out at home,

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<v Speaker 4>women of America. DK and Why a true lifestyle brand

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<v Speaker 4>that takes you from day and tonight, from the week

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<v Speaker 4>Why and Macy's dky dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to it always in fashion. Here's your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Webber.

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<v Speaker 4>I have never forgotten the Terminator movie. Now. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>watch horror movies. I don't like war movies. They disturb me.

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<v Speaker 4>They really disturb me, particular war movies. I saw a

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<v Speaker 4>movie called Bridge Over Tocoree when I was a young boy,

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<v Speaker 4>by accident, by accident, and it's a story of a

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful family. The guy used to be in the Navy.

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<v Speaker 4>He gets called back in and he goes to Korea

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<v Speaker 4>and he's a flying guy. And I just don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to tell you it disturbed me so much. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>watch war movies. I've never watched one since maybe Saving

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<v Speaker 4>Private Ryan. In all my years, I've never watched war moves.

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<v Speaker 4>But two movies in my lifetime scared me. One was Alien.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll never forget when that creature jumped out of the

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<v Speaker 4>guy's stomach. It was the scariest thing I ever saw

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<v Speaker 4>in my life. And then there was The Terminator. The

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<v Speaker 4>Terminator scared me because it was intellectually brilliant. It really

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<v Speaker 4>talked about machines taking over and killing off humankind because

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<v Speaker 4>they woke up one day with everything they learned, they

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<v Speaker 4>realized they didn't need humans. All they needed humans for

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<v Speaker 4>was maybe some of them to work on some of

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<v Speaker 4>the mechanics, but really they didn't care for humans anymore,

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<v Speaker 4>and they got rid of us. I still get scared

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<v Speaker 4>when I hear that song, the music and here we are.

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<v Speaker 4>We're addicted to our machines. Adults to their cell phones.

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<v Speaker 4>Go into a restaurant for people could be at the table,

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<v Speaker 4>all four of them looking at the cell phone. There's

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<v Speaker 4>at it. Kids they're addicted to their video games. They're

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<v Speaker 4>addicted day and tonight. If you let them go, they

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<v Speaker 4>will not stop, and if you stop them, they will

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<v Speaker 4>get incredibly angry. And then, of course let's not forget

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<v Speaker 4>the real dangers that no one talks about. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you go back in time. Nobody knew the sun was

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<v Speaker 4>dangerous until now. Cumulatively, you know it's dangerous. Nobody realized

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<v Speaker 4>cigarettes in the beginning because the companies hit it. Whatever

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<v Speaker 4>research they had, they didn't tell it. People smoked. Today,

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<v Speaker 4>we use Bluetooth technology with those air parts in our ears. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>But those things are dangerous and so is bluetooth, and

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<v Speaker 4>with machines. We could be part human, part machine. We

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<v Speaker 4>communicate directly from our brains with a chip. This is

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<v Speaker 4>the scariest thing I ever heard, because it is determinator.

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<v Speaker 4>We're all destined to become cyborgs. Now, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>And I hadn't paid very much attention to artificial intelligence

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<v Speaker 4>until my other son Jared, started talking to me about

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<v Speaker 4>chat GPT.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, what's amazing about it is it's incredibly impressive right now.

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<v Speaker 5>But where it's going to be in the next few

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<v Speaker 5>years is it's hard to imagine, But yes, it's Is that.

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<v Speaker 4>The only artificial intelligence you come across.

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<v Speaker 5>No, there's other platforms that you can use, like, for example,

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<v Speaker 5>if you want to summarize a bunch of articles, you

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<v Speaker 5>want to find quick information, you want to write something,

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<v Speaker 5>it can help you. And I think when you look

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<v Speaker 5>at chat, GPT, or you look at any of these

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<v Speaker 5>AI models, the thing that I think you have to

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<v Speaker 5>wonder is a can it be just a useful tool

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<v Speaker 5>that will help supplement.

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<v Speaker 3>What you do.

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<v Speaker 5>That's one way of looking at it versus will it

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<v Speaker 5>replace what you do? And I've heard a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>different people who are in the space who are very

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<v Speaker 5>encouraged by it. They're very optimistic about it. They're telling

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<v Speaker 5>people that it won't replace jobs. It may change your jobs,

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<v Speaker 5>but there's always going to be a need for a

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<v Speaker 5>human element. There's always going to be a need for

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<v Speaker 5>a human to watch over what AI and chat GPT

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<v Speaker 5>are doing. It's a nice thing to think about, but

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<v Speaker 5>as these are getting more and more powerful. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I just saw something the other day where they put

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<v Speaker 5>together a whole movie using AI. No actors, no production,

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<v Speaker 5>no script, you plug it in about this is a

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<v Speaker 5>movie you want to see And they created a whole

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<v Speaker 5>movie using AI tools. It's crazy and we're like really

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<v Speaker 5>in the beginning part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I got turned on to it and I got

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<v Speaker 4>interested because on Instagram I started watching all these videos

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<v Speaker 4>that they do. One the other day they recreated the Beatles.

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<v Speaker 4>They actually had the four Beatles talking as if they

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<v Speaker 4>were right there. And I'm sure you've seen the where

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<v Speaker 4>they make an actor and actress they're six months old

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<v Speaker 4>and they show them how they develop and how they

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<v Speaker 4>grow up, and it looks real like they're right there

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<v Speaker 4>all this stuff. Yet it's hard enough to know what

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<v Speaker 4>is going on. What I find really concerning is it's

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<v Speaker 4>so intrusive. You know, I just while I'm sitting here, Jesse,

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<v Speaker 4>I put in your name.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's a trat GPTA, Yeah, and it's a Jesse.

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<v Speaker 4>Cord Weber is a multi fascinated professional, combining his expertise

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<v Speaker 4>as an attorney with roles in broadcasting anchoring. He serves

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<v Speaker 4>as an anchor reporter for the Long Crime Network, founded

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<v Speaker 4>by Dana and Briomsbury, hosts and executes produces syndicated true

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<v Speaker 4>crime show Prime Crime. Additionally, Jesse co hosts the Always

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<v Speaker 4>In Fashion radio show with his father, Mark Weber, airing

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<v Speaker 4>on seven to ten War and other podcast platforms including

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<v Speaker 4>Apple and Spotify. He also contributes as a freelance radio

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<v Speaker 4>host and Serious potem Serious XM's Potus Channel one twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four and his guest Nankor on twelve News Long Island.

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<v Speaker 4>Beyond his hosting Dude, Jesse provides legal alison networks such

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<v Speaker 4>as Fox News, CNN, E T CVS, CNBC News Nation

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<v Speaker 4>and Doctor RS.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at this some of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of it's true, some of it's true, some of

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<v Speaker 5>it's not, some of it's outdated.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked up myself too on it, and it's a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a different description.

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<v Speaker 5>I did like this part. He's known for his engaging

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<v Speaker 5>style and ability to break down complex legal issues for

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<v Speaker 5>a general audience.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like that. I will tell you it's funny.

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<v Speaker 5>I looked up if it got who if I was right,

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<v Speaker 5>who I was married to, and it was completely wrong, which,

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, I don't mind. I don't mind that

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<v Speaker 5>it got my wife's name wrong. But it was that

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<v Speaker 5>I was married to somebody completely different.

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<v Speaker 4>It's interesting you say that, because a lot of things

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<v Speaker 4>come up. But then I thought it was great. I

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<v Speaker 4>played a little game today. I just looked you up

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<v Speaker 4>and I read to you what it said, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>so accurate. It's scary how they get all this information

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<v Speaker 4>compile it. So then I did a few on me.

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<v Speaker 4>You ready, yeah? First one is Mark Weber? Interesting?

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<v Speaker 2>How about that?

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<v Speaker 4>You're ready? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What I say?

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Weber is definitely an interesting figure, especially if you're

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<v Speaker 4>into fashion, business or leadership. His background as the former

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<v Speaker 4>CEO of lvmh Ink, the US branch of luxury conglomerate

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<v Speaker 4>that owns brands like Vitone, Dior Gavanci, gives him deep

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<v Speaker 4>industry insight. What makes him compelling, I'm compelling. I like

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<v Speaker 4>that is he didn't just work in fashion. He played

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<v Speaker 4>a major role in shaping it. Compelling and shaping fashion,

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<v Speaker 4>he climbed the corporate ladder from modest beginnings, eventually leading

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<v Speaker 4>major brands like Phillips van Uzen, where he helped drive

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<v Speaker 4>global expansion. His experience gives him a unique perspective on

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<v Speaker 4>business strategy, branding, and leadership Beyond fashion. Look at this,

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<v Speaker 4>His radio show Always in Fashion, His book Always in

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<v Speaker 4>Fashion From Clerk to Ceo off for stories, career advice,

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<v Speaker 4>and insights into the industry. His ability to mix personal

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<v Speaker 4>anecdotes with professional lessons makes him engaging to listen to

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<v Speaker 4>or read about.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>You know the funny thing. You know what the funny

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<v Speaker 4>thing is. I'll tell you. Wait, let me just finish. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>let's see, and then it says my work his Warkweb's

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<v Speaker 4>work spans executive leadership, writing, and media. Here's a major

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<v Speaker 4>breakdown of his contributions. CEO of LVMH chink you all

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<v Speaker 4>know this already, so I don't want to go through it.

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<v Speaker 4>Markwbers working blah blah blah blah, Corporate leadership CEO of

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<v Speaker 4>LVMH North America led the US operations blah blah blah

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah, Chairman, CEO Phillips Venues, and board and advisory roles.

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<v Speaker 4>He served as an advisor and board member for various

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<v Speaker 4>fashion and retail conglomerates. Books and writing, Always in Fashion

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<v Speaker 4>From Clerk to Ceo, his memoir and business book where

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<v Speaker 4>he shares lessons from his rise in the fashion industry. Leadership,

534
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<v Speaker 4>insights and career learnings, books in writing, always in fashion,

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<v Speaker 4>from clerk to CEO, business and fashion, comedy, business and

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<v Speaker 4>fashion commentary has written I've spoken extensively on trends in

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<v Speaker 4>fashion branding. Listen, here's the deal, Here's why I'm doing this.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to work for a guy in France, Italian fella.

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<v Speaker 4>He went to school here in the United States. English

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<v Speaker 4>was his third language, perfect French, perfect Italian, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>in English with a heavy accent. And the guy was brilliant,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was the number two guy at LVMH manager

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<v Speaker 4>director in our country we called president and I worked

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<v Speaker 4>for him, and it had to be once a week

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<v Speaker 4>I would get a detailed letter from him, ask me

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<v Speaker 4>where we are in this or that, commenting on what's

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<v Speaker 4>going on in the world, and asking for my professional

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<v Speaker 4>opinion on what he just wrote. I dreaded those letters

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<v Speaker 4>because he wrote them in English. And if I tell you,

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<v Speaker 4>they were brilliantly crafted. They were so intricate and so

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<v Speaker 4>well in grammar and the way it was laid out

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<v Speaker 4>and functioning. It took me maybe a day or two.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't do anything else but rewrite and write, and

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<v Speaker 4>rewrite and write a let that, in the end was

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<v Speaker 4>never as good as the one he wrote. And the

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<v Speaker 4>funny thing about this AI, all of this stuff that

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<v Speaker 4>I just read, compiled from wherever it is in the world,

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<v Speaker 4>every single bit of information, they put it together, they

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<v Speaker 4>get access to it, and they spit it back to

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<v Speaker 4>you better than you could ever write it yourself. I

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<v Speaker 4>find it fascinating, I find it exciting. I find this

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<v Speaker 4>is probably the most exciting technology to ever hit the world.

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<v Speaker 4>But I am concerned with where it's going. And I

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<v Speaker 4>have a surprise for you.

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<v Speaker 5>Jesse, you're ready, Well, it's a surprise for the audience.

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<v Speaker 5>Ready we tell them?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>This is all AI. This is not Mark Webber, This

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<v Speaker 3>is not Jesse Webber.

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<v Speaker 5>This is all AI.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 3>I think people could tell the difference. But anyway, what's

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<v Speaker 3>a surprise?

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<v Speaker 4>I asked AI. Would you hire Mark Weber to host

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<v Speaker 4>a TV show? Woh?

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<v Speaker 3>What did it say?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you hire Mark Weber to host a TV show? Why?

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<v Speaker 2>He could be a great fit one industry authority. Weber's

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<v Speaker 2>deep understanding of the fashion and business industries would make

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<v Speaker 2>him a credible and authoritative voice, particularly for shows centered

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<v Speaker 2>around leadership, entrepreneurship, or high end fashion. Two charisma and storytelling.

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<v Speaker 2>On Always in Fashion, He's demonstrated his ability to narrate

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<v Speaker 2>stories from his career, mixing personal anecdotes with professional insights.

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<v Speaker 2>This blend of storytelling would make him engaging on a

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<v Speaker 2>television show. Three Media experience. As a host of his

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<v Speaker 2>own radio show, Weber already has significant media experience. He

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<v Speaker 2>knows how to keep an audience engaged while offering valuable content,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's through interviews, discussions, or commentary. Four. Cross generational appeal.

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<v Speaker 2>With his son Jesse as co host, he appeals to

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<v Speaker 2>both older generations who value traditional business acumen and younger

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<v Speaker 2>audiences who may appreciate fresh, modern takes on style and success.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are producing a show about business leadership or fashion,

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<v Speaker 2>Weber's background and skills could make him a strong addition.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. That's great.

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<v Speaker 4>So those of you out there in the television and

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<v Speaker 4>movie business, Jesse and I are available, even the phony ones,

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<v Speaker 4>the AI versions of us. So I thought that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>And this all came from my elder son Jared telling me,

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<v Speaker 4>had Daddy, you see what's going on in AO? And

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<v Speaker 4>he told me to look at Chap GPT and there

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<v Speaker 4>you go listen while I can. I'm having a great

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<v Speaker 4>time until the machines take over. For now, I take

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<v Speaker 4>a break and walk like a man always in fashion.

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<v Speaker 4>As one of the world's most celebrated fashion designers, car

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<v Speaker 4>Lagafeld was renowned for his aspirational and cutting edge approach

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<v Speaker 4>to style. His unique vision of Parisian shit comes to

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<v Speaker 4>America through car Lagafeld Paris. He has women's collections, men's collections,

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<v Speaker 4>ready to wear, accessory, shoes and bags. The fashion house

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<v Speaker 4>Carlagafeld also off is a ring of watches I wear

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<v Speaker 4>in premium fragrances. You can explore the Carlagovo collection at

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<v Speaker 4>carlagofelpowers dot com. But it's more than that. I, for one,

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<v Speaker 4>love to shop. I love going around and seeing what's

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<v Speaker 4>happening and what catches my attention, what would make me

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<v Speaker 4>feel good to wear now. I don't wear the women's

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<v Speaker 4>wear obviously, but I can appreciate it and they look amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>If you want to look right, you want to have

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<v Speaker 4>clothes that fits you well. You want to look like

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<v Speaker 4>you're wearing something that's very expensive, that's exclusive for you

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<v Speaker 4>and yours. You can find it at very affordable prices

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<v Speaker 4>at Macy's. Orcarlagofel dot com, Paris, the women's ready to

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<v Speaker 4>wear fashion is extraordinary, as well as the handbags and

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<v Speaker 4>the shoes. I, for one, wear men's clothes, unlike my

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<v Speaker 4>appreciation of women's clothes. I'm a modern guy. I want

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<v Speaker 4>to look current, I want to look the way I

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<v Speaker 4>want to feel. I go out at night, I'm in

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<v Speaker 4>black and Carlagofel is my buddy. Calls are great. They

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<v Speaker 4>fit great, and they have little tweaks and touches, whether

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00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:00.880
<v Speaker 4>it's a stripe on the sleeve, a button at the

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<v Speaker 4>neck or on the shoulder. There's a lot of details

630
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<v Speaker 4>that go into Carl Lagathel because he's always been, he

631
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 4>always had been one of the world's great designers, and

632
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:12.839
<v Speaker 4>this legacy and goes on and on. I can't speak

633
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<v Speaker 4>enough about it except to say to you, you want

634
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:16.960
<v Speaker 4>to feel good about yourself. You want to know that

635
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<v Speaker 4>you're dressing properly. You want to clothes that fits you well.

636
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<v Speaker 4>Carl Lagafeld, Paris, Carl Lagafeldparis dot com. I love polar Fleece.

637
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:32.559
<v Speaker 4>It's lightweight, takes colors beautifully, It's comfortable, keeps you warm

638
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:36.279
<v Speaker 4>and even if it's warm out, it doesn't hamper you,

639
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't make you perspire. I love polar fleas. I

640
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 4>also love sweatshirts and sweatpants, love them, love them, love them.

641
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:45.839
<v Speaker 4>I'm a big fan of khaki pants and a big

642
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 4>fan of a golf clothes. And I'm a big fan

643
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<v Speaker 4>of ISID. I used to be the head of iszide.

644
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.880
<v Speaker 4>In fact, my company bought it and aut of bankruptcy,

645
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<v Speaker 4>and the CEO of the company asked me to come

646
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:58.559
<v Speaker 4>in and fix it. And he said to me, Mark,

647
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.559
<v Speaker 4>the future of the company's in your hand. Can you

648
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<v Speaker 4>do this? And I said, I will do it. I

649
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:05.920
<v Speaker 4>put everything, my heart and soul into making ISESID the

650
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<v Speaker 4>powerhouse that it is today.

651
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:08.199
<v Speaker 5>Now.

652
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<v Speaker 4>I left a long time ago, and the company just

653
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 4>continues to thrive. ISAOD is one of the great sweater makers,

654
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:17.400
<v Speaker 4>pant make a shirt makers, knit shirt makers, polo shirt makers.

655
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:21.840
<v Speaker 4>They're incredible company. The colors are great, the fabrics are great. Guys,

656
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.559
<v Speaker 4>you ever wonder what you should wear, I'll make it

657
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:26.320
<v Speaker 4>easy for you. If you're going to be casual, go

658
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<v Speaker 4>in and look at ISID.

659
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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't say that they don't have dress shirts and

661
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.039
<v Speaker 4>they don't have suits, you go find them. ISAOD is

662
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 4>a collective brand that offers lifestyle apparel to everyone in America.

663
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<v Speaker 4>And it's true, it's a fun brand, but it's also

664
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<v Speaker 4>priced at fun prices everyone can afford it. I love

665
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<v Speaker 4>this brand. Of all the brands that I'm involved with

666
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:48.360
<v Speaker 4>and you can name them, think about PVH and LVMH

667
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 4>and all the brands, ISAOD is the one that's most

668
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 4>personal to me because I was involved in crafting the

669
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<v Speaker 4>future of this brand. The clothes are great, fall is great.

670
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<v Speaker 4>They're doing well. Isod dot com, isaadat JC Penny go

671
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:03.159
<v Speaker 4>look for it. I think you're going to be very happy.

672
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<v Speaker 4>And ladies, those of you do shopping for the guys

673
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.000
<v Speaker 4>in your lives, take a look. I think they'll be

674
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<v Speaker 4>very happy with your choices.

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<v Speaker 2>Isaac for men, welcome back to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Always in fashion. Here's your host, Mark webber.

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<v Speaker 4>To Night show. I'm talking about walking like a man.

678
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:23.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm not talking about muscles bulging. I'm talking about feeling

679
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.559
<v Speaker 4>good about yourself and planning your career and your life

680
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.599
<v Speaker 4>so when you get to a point that you done enough,

681
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.800
<v Speaker 4>you could walk like a man. And by the way,

682
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 4>having pride, belief in yourself, and confidence throughout your entirety

683
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.480
<v Speaker 4>of your career is really the goal. Everything you do

684
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.679
<v Speaker 4>along the way you should be doing for the right reasons.

685
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:48.840
<v Speaker 4>I started the show by talking why do we work.

686
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of reasons why we work. Some would

687
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:55.239
<v Speaker 4>argue it's money. I would argue money is important, money

688
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:57.760
<v Speaker 4>takes care of itself. I think money is more about

689
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:00.920
<v Speaker 4>keeping score. I think we work to feel good, to

690
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:05.599
<v Speaker 4>be proud, to create role models and things for your family,

691
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 4>to show your children that there's a reason to do

692
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.320
<v Speaker 4>the things that we tell them that they should be doing.

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<v Speaker 4>I am in the mood of look back right now.

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<v Speaker 4>At the same time I am looking forward. I have

695
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:23.159
<v Speaker 4>a concept called the look Back. It's very interesting. I

696
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 4>bought a sports car a few years ago and boil boy.

697
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.920
<v Speaker 4>I decided to be fancy and I picked a special

698
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:34.320
<v Speaker 4>color and I paid a king's ransom to have this

699
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 4>special color on this particular car. I also came up

700
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.800
<v Speaker 4>with these fancy wheels that matched the car and the

701
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:46.079
<v Speaker 4>inlaid with some black epoxy and on paper it looked incredible.

702
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I spent my whole career in fashion

703
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 4>and retail and luxury. I have an eye for it.

704
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:57.400
<v Speaker 4>I am a creative by I don't know I'm born

705
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.480
<v Speaker 4>with it. I suppose I'm a creative guy. Look at things,

706
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:01.760
<v Speaker 4>I know what they are and I how to make

707
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:04.719
<v Speaker 4>them better. In fashion, if you would walk me into

708
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:06.719
<v Speaker 4>a room. When I walked to Donna Aaron, I knew

709
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.679
<v Speaker 4>nothing about women's where I was a men'swear expert. Now

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00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm the chairman CEO of Donna Karen. I walk into

711
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.360
<v Speaker 4>a design meeting. All the designs are on the wall,

712
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:18.119
<v Speaker 4>all the paintings, all the cats, computer aided designs, all

713
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:21.239
<v Speaker 4>the fashion ideas, the samples. I could look at a

714
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 4>wall and I can tell you within thirty seconds what

715
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:29.159
<v Speaker 4>is right, what is wrong, what is missing, what we

716
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.800
<v Speaker 4>should do to improve it. I just am able to

717
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 4>do that. One of my favorite stories is back in

718
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 4>my day, I had hired this guy designer, and when

719
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:42.519
<v Speaker 4>I interviewed him, he had everything that he said. He

720
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:47.920
<v Speaker 4>was right, dressed well, spoke well, looked a part, talked fashion,

721
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 4>understood the technical details. But when it came time to

722
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 4>do the product, it just wasn't right. Just wasn't right.

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<v Speaker 4>I've talked about this in my book, Ill Talk to

724
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:01.880
<v Speaker 4>you about again. There's a concept call one to ten.

725
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 4>Some people do one to five. You know you rate movies.

726
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.079
<v Speaker 4>I rate everything at one to ten. Okay, it's very simple.

727
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<v Speaker 4>We all know what it is. Okay, you look at

728
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<v Speaker 4>a car one to ten, what do you think of

729
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:12.679
<v Speaker 4>that car? Ten?

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<v Speaker 2>Five?

731
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<v Speaker 4>We know whatever the number is. You look at a guy,

732
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 4>you look at a girl. Hey, what do you think?

733
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<v Speaker 4>One to ten? You have a rating? Brad Pitt ten.

734
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:25.760
<v Speaker 4>George Clooney looking a little uh eightish these days. I'll

735
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:31.599
<v Speaker 4>give you example, Margot Robbie ten. I'm gonna get in

736
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 4>trouble for this side, don't know. But anyway, the point

737
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:37.400
<v Speaker 4>was this designer put a line together, and for the

738
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:40.480
<v Speaker 4>first time I was going in to see his body

739
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.239
<v Speaker 4>of work. I walked in the room. There were other

740
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 4>designers there. There were people from operations, people from sales,

741
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.320
<v Speaker 4>and they were waiting to see what I had said.

742
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.599
<v Speaker 4>The colors were off, the pattern work was off, the

743
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:57.880
<v Speaker 4>detailing was off. It was really really horrible, and I

744
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:02.199
<v Speaker 4>was shocked by it. And I was so taken aback,

745
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:05.440
<v Speaker 4>really so taken aback that I couldn't even control myself.

746
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:07.400
<v Speaker 4>And I walked in the room instead. Of saying, you know,

747
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.480
<v Speaker 4>we really have to talk about I said, I hate this.

748
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:13.239
<v Speaker 4>What is this? And the designer, you know, he felt

749
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:17.400
<v Speaker 4>strange and he started to, you know, explain what he's doing.

750
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:18.800
<v Speaker 4>He said, Mark, you got to give it a chance.

751
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:21.960
<v Speaker 4>Let me take you through it. I said, okay, So

752
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.480
<v Speaker 4>I listened. I put my game face on. I recovered

753
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:28.079
<v Speaker 4>from the fact that I couldn't believe this guy is

754
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:31.760
<v Speaker 4>sitting here telling me this stuff is good and really disturbment,

755
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:36.679
<v Speaker 4>really disturbment that he's voting for it and trying to

756
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:39.199
<v Speaker 4>convince me that what I know is not good is good.

757
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:41.719
<v Speaker 4>So I used to do this game. I called it

758
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:44.039
<v Speaker 4>the ballot game. And I decided right then and there,

759
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to play the ballot game. What's the ballot game?

760
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:48.559
<v Speaker 4>I asked my assistant to get me one of my

761
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:51.559
<v Speaker 4>baseball caps. I put the baseball cap in front of

762
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<v Speaker 4>it in the center of the table, and I take

763
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<v Speaker 4>a pad and I started tearing the pair into pieces.

764
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<v Speaker 4>I asked my system again, bring me in ten pencils.

765
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<v Speaker 4>There were ten of us in the room. Comes back

766
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<v Speaker 4>five minutes later. I said, we're going to play a game.

767
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<v Speaker 4>I call it the ballot game. It's a great equalizer.

768
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<v Speaker 4>I said, everybody take a piece of paper. Everybody take

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<v Speaker 4>a pencil. Everybody's taking the paper and pencil. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>imagine what's going on here, I said, Okay, Josh here,

771
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<v Speaker 4>whatever's name was, I don't remember. Josh here thinks this

772
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<v Speaker 4>line is incredible. I'm telling you I don't. The only

773
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<v Speaker 4>way we can get an idea from all of you

774
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:28.840
<v Speaker 4>other people here, I want to get an opinion. Who's right,

775
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:32.239
<v Speaker 4>was wrong? What we think about it? I know what

776
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:36.239
<v Speaker 4>I think, and I am curious to see what the

777
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.920
<v Speaker 4>rest of you think. Now a thing with me in life.

778
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<v Speaker 4>If I ask your opinion, I already know what I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Most times, if I don't know something and I say

780
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<v Speaker 4>to you, I don't know, can you tell me that,

781
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:49.519
<v Speaker 4>I'm willing to listen. But if I ask an opinion,

782
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.320
<v Speaker 4>particularly when it comes to the creative arts, I'm not

783
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<v Speaker 4>interested in your opinion. I already made it in my mind.

784
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:57.320
<v Speaker 4>Nothing's going to change it. Everybody has the pencil and paper,

785
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.159
<v Speaker 4>and I asked them on a one to ten, I

786
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.519
<v Speaker 4>want you to rate this collection on the wall. Oh

787
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<v Speaker 4>here's the thing. If you work as an assistant to

788
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:08.639
<v Speaker 4>this guy of course you would say. And if I

789
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:10.480
<v Speaker 4>asked you and Paul, oh, it's great. I really think

790
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:12.800
<v Speaker 4>if I asked another designer, they wouldn't want to get

791
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:17.880
<v Speaker 4>into the discomfort of telling a person that their work

792
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:22.360
<v Speaker 4>isn't right. But in my ballot game, nobody knows who's

793
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.000
<v Speaker 4>writing because what I said to them is, I want

794
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:27.360
<v Speaker 4>you to write one to ten what you think of

795
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:31.320
<v Speaker 4>this line. Zero means it's terrible. Ten means it's great.

796
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:33.840
<v Speaker 4>I gave you all the se pencils you all owe

797
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:36.960
<v Speaker 4>the same paper. After you write your answer on your

798
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:38.840
<v Speaker 4>piece of paper, I want you to crumble it up

799
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<v Speaker 4>and put it in the hat. All of us then

800
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 4>crumpled up the paper put it in the hat. For me,

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00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 4>I was going to call out and read them one

802
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:49.280
<v Speaker 4>by one. So I take a piece of paper. The

803
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<v Speaker 4>first one says four, take another piece of paper. The

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<v Speaker 4>next one is zero, Zero is me, next one, five,

805
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:00.639
<v Speaker 4>then six, one, seven, And when you're really came down

806
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:03.679
<v Speaker 4>to it, everything was all under seven except for one

807
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:06.639
<v Speaker 4>that was a nine and a half. I looked at

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00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:08.800
<v Speaker 4>the designer and I said, I'm i to believe you're

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<v Speaker 4>the nine and a half. He said, yes, well, I

810
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<v Speaker 4>was the zero I'll admit it to you. I came here.

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<v Speaker 4>You haven't changed my mind. This line is horrible. We

812
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<v Speaker 4>have to start all over. I'm throwing it all out.

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<v Speaker 4>What about the collus, I said, listen, here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at this rating here. You have an average rating

815
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 4>of four point five. We're not in the business of

816
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<v Speaker 4>four point five. We're in the business of ten. And

817
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:34.679
<v Speaker 4>the fact that we are so low rated. I can't

818
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:37.679
<v Speaker 4>risk the company's money, or the future of our people,

819
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<v Speaker 4>or the future of our brands on something that is

820
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<v Speaker 4>not great. And this is obviously not great. Now. I

821
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<v Speaker 4>can't fault you because you think it's great, but we

822
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:49.039
<v Speaker 4>can't go on, and we're gonna have to regroup and

823
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<v Speaker 4>do this again. Make a long story short. We ended

824
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<v Speaker 4>up letting that guy go not too long after that.

825
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<v Speaker 4>I felt bad about it, But come on, if you're

826
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<v Speaker 4>defending ugly, you don't belong in the fashion business. Having

827
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<v Speaker 4>said that, I designed my own car. I went to

828
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<v Speaker 4>pick it up in a dealership after waiting seven months,

829
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<v Speaker 4>and I looked at it and I hated it. I

830
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<v Speaker 4>hated the wheels, but more importantly than anything else, I

831
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<v Speaker 4>hated the color I selected me The fashion expert the girl.

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00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:20.719
<v Speaker 4>I hated it. It was a gray, but it had

833
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.880
<v Speaker 4>a brown tint to it rather than a blue tint.

834
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:27.679
<v Speaker 4>Grays that have blue tint tend to be more pleasing

835
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 4>to the eye. And when I said to the deal

836
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.559
<v Speaker 4>I don't want this car, I keep it, he said,

837
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:35.159
<v Speaker 4>take it. You don't like you could always bring it back.

838
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.079
<v Speaker 4>So I started to pull it out. And now it's

839
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:40.679
<v Speaker 4>in the street and I see the color and it

840
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:44.280
<v Speaker 4>looks like tan. It doesn't look like gray. I'm devastated.

841
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I had my heart setter, and I waited.

842
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:48.800
<v Speaker 4>I designed my own car, the whole deal, and I

843
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:52.199
<v Speaker 4>did what I then to become, and I coined the

844
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:56.239
<v Speaker 4>look back. I walked away from the car, took a

845
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:58.400
<v Speaker 4>fast turn and looked at it. I gave it a

846
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.320
<v Speaker 4>look back and it was harrd. I knew then and there.

847
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:04.519
<v Speaker 4>So when I think about look back, I think about

848
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 4>that story. I'll never forget being in a Calvin Klein

849
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:10.440
<v Speaker 4>run Dury show. All the world class models are there,

850
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:13.760
<v Speaker 4>supermodels are there. I remember that particular day and if

851
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:16.920
<v Speaker 4>you go online, you'll see me with the Italian Ivanovitch.

852
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:18.679
<v Speaker 4>I forgot her name. She was one of the hot

853
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:22.239
<v Speaker 4>Russian models at the time. She was a friend in

854
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.400
<v Speaker 4>the sense that I hired her with a team and

855
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:26.280
<v Speaker 4>she did great. But I have a pictures to so

856
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:29.039
<v Speaker 4>with her because she was a spokesman for the company

857
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:33.400
<v Speaker 4>for a while. But one supermodel walked by me and

858
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.360
<v Speaker 4>she just walked by, and she stopped at one point,

859
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:39.800
<v Speaker 4>turned around, looked at me and smiled and walked away.

860
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:42.639
<v Speaker 4>That was a look back. I never saw her again,

861
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:46.000
<v Speaker 4>ever spoke to her. But that's a look back. And

862
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:48.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about look backs today and walking like a

863
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:50.440
<v Speaker 4>man because I have a story I want to tell

864
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:54.119
<v Speaker 4>you that happened this week. I got a phone call

865
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:59.840
<v Speaker 4>from one of the most powerful men in the fashion,

866
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:06.480
<v Speaker 4>luxury and retail business today. He's a billionaire, he's an

867
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:12.719
<v Speaker 4>accomplished guy, owns Megabrands. And he called me to say

868
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:16.360
<v Speaker 4>that I was recommended to him to be involved in

869
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:18.639
<v Speaker 4>a new division that was being set up in his

870
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:22.840
<v Speaker 4>company and in partnership with another company. He wanted me

871
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Speaker 4>to come and sit down with him about joining the company.

872
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:31.760
<v Speaker 4>I said, Tom flattered, I don't I'm speechless. Just the

873
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.519
<v Speaker 4>fact that you are calling me is a great honor,

874
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:37.039
<v Speaker 4>and of course I'll come see you. So the next

875
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.000
<v Speaker 4>day I came into the city and I went to

876
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:42.960
<v Speaker 4>see him in his offices, beautiful office, Prestigia guy. And

877
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.159
<v Speaker 4>he was so affable and so friendly. And he said

878
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:51.119
<v Speaker 4>to me, Mark, I take great pride in hiring people

879
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:54.119
<v Speaker 4>who've retired and bringing him back to work because they

880
00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:57.159
<v Speaker 4>have such a great wealth of information. He says, I

881
00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:00.679
<v Speaker 4>have a guy that I hired. He retired sixty five.

882
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 4>He was an architect. He built some of the most

883
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:05.800
<v Speaker 4>beautiful things in the world, in the country. I don't

884
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 4>want to mention them because I don't want you to

885
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.079
<v Speaker 4>know who this guy is. And he said, I brought

886
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:12.239
<v Speaker 4>him into the company and he's been one of the

887
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:16.920
<v Speaker 4>most invaluable people that I've ever worked with. He says,

888
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 4>I know you're retired. I'm not going to ask you

889
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:20.719
<v Speaker 4>how old you are. I said, thank you, because I'm

890
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:22.599
<v Speaker 4>not going to tell you. He said, but I would

891
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:25.280
<v Speaker 4>love to bring you back because your reputation precedes you.

892
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 4>I've never met anyone with a reputation. Everyone says the

893
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 4>same thing. You're super talented, you're a good guy, you're

894
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.480
<v Speaker 4>super tough, but you're fair and that works. And i'd

895
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:37.400
<v Speaker 4>like you to come work for me, and he starts

896
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.840
<v Speaker 4>to explain the job, and now I'm thinking, here we go,

897
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.559
<v Speaker 4>Look who's talking to me. The guy is a real deal.

898
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.480
<v Speaker 4>He's a great guy. His principle here of what they're

899
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:48.880
<v Speaker 4>trying to build this brilliant. And I'm starting to think,

900
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:53.480
<v Speaker 4>maybe maybe I think about coming back to work, because

901
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 4>I've always thought that there are only a couple of

902
00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:59.719
<v Speaker 4>jobs that I would consider coming back to work for.

903
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Was Polo?

904
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:05.639
<v Speaker 4>Never forget I was thinking about coming back. One time,

905
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 4>I knew that the CEO of Polo a woman, and

906
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:12.039
<v Speaker 4>I went to see her, and out of the blue,

907
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:13.679
<v Speaker 4>you know, she knew me. She took the call, came

908
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:15.280
<v Speaker 4>to see me, and when I told her that I

909
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:19.079
<v Speaker 4>thought her men's business was suffering and needed improvement, she

910
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:21.639
<v Speaker 4>was looking at me. And you ever see a ticketape

911
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:24.840
<v Speaker 4>how it moves showing the letters and the numbers. I

912
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:27.480
<v Speaker 4>could imagine a ticket tape on her forehead saying how

913
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:29.280
<v Speaker 4>do I get this guy out of here? I could

914
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.679
<v Speaker 4>see how uncomfortable she was that I came in asking

915
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:34.639
<v Speaker 4>for a job. I didn't need it. I just like Polo,

916
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.159
<v Speaker 4>I've always thought about working at the Gap ever since

917
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:40.159
<v Speaker 4>Mickey Drexler left twenty years ago. Twenty five years ago.

918
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:42.360
<v Speaker 4>The gap has not been The gap went from my

919
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.480
<v Speaker 4>favorite store in the world, who hardly gets on my

920
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:48.159
<v Speaker 4>radar screen. I never spend more than three minutes there.

921
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:50.480
<v Speaker 4>Once in a while. They have a denim jacket that

922
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:52.880
<v Speaker 4>I love. I bought a few of them. But generally speaking,

923
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 4>the GAP's not the gap. It's not what it was.

924
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:56.480
<v Speaker 4>You want to know what the gap used to look like.

925
00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:00.159
<v Speaker 4>It's called uniclow so. But other than that, I had

926
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Speaker 4>no interest in working. And here I am talking to

927
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.920
<v Speaker 4>this guy, and I start calibrating and saying to myself,

928
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.800
<v Speaker 4>why do I need this? I remember I talked to

929
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:12.960
<v Speaker 4>you once about Jim Carrey was interviewed not too long ago,

930
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 4>and he says, I did enough, I have enough, and

931
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:18.960
<v Speaker 4>I am enough. And I was taken by that. I

932
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:20.360
<v Speaker 4>did a show and I thought it was brilliant. I

933
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:23.119
<v Speaker 4>sitting there and saying I've did enough, I have enough,

934
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:26.679
<v Speaker 4>I am enough, and I don't need this. But I said,

935
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:29.880
<v Speaker 4>the fact that it's him, and the fact the fact

936
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 4>that the job was so big, the fact that the

937
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:35.000
<v Speaker 4>money would be great, the fact that the perks would

938
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.920
<v Speaker 4>be great, the prestige would be there, the office space

939
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.960
<v Speaker 4>would be there. And then he says to me, what

940
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:42.920
<v Speaker 4>I really want you to do is work in my

941
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:47.880
<v Speaker 4>partner's offices, not with me. You'll be hired by me

942
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.320
<v Speaker 4>and our partner and you'll work in the partner's offices.

943
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:54.559
<v Speaker 4>And I couldn't do it. I thought I was talking

944
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:56.920
<v Speaker 4>to him, and in fact, I said to them, listen,

945
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:01.239
<v Speaker 4>here's the deal. Here's the deal. I would consider coming

946
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:06.159
<v Speaker 4>to work for you. One, I need expense money. I'm

947
00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:08.079
<v Speaker 4>going to be commuting, I'll be living this city. I'm

948
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:10.159
<v Speaker 4>going to be living out here. I'm there traveling. We

949
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:13.119
<v Speaker 4>need to know the moneing, no problem a second. Secondarily,

950
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.199
<v Speaker 4>if I'm going to come back to work, it has

951
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:18.000
<v Speaker 4>to be bigger than life and what you're suggesting to

952
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:20.159
<v Speaker 4>me work at the other company. I won't be the CEO,

953
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:22.400
<v Speaker 4>I won't be the president. I'm not coming back for

954
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.199
<v Speaker 4>less than what I was. I just won't do it.

955
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:27.280
<v Speaker 4>And he looked at me and said, well, what is

956
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:28.719
<v Speaker 4>it you want? I said, First of all, I want

957
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:30.760
<v Speaker 4>to sit on your board. He said to me, I

958
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:32.840
<v Speaker 4>can't do that. I looked at him and I said,

959
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:35.079
<v Speaker 4>you're a master of the universe. You could do anything

960
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.079
<v Speaker 4>you want. He started to laugh. He says, I suppose

961
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:41.360
<v Speaker 4>he said the board is boring. I said, okay, once

962
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:43.559
<v Speaker 4>a quarter when you have a board meeting, I'll be bored.

963
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:45.320
<v Speaker 4>But other than that, I want to sit on the board.

964
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 4>If I'm sitting on your board, it's prestigious. It makes

965
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:50.519
<v Speaker 4>me feel good, it makes me driven. It shows that

966
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm continuing a fashion career at the level that I

967
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:54.840
<v Speaker 4>was doing. So I don't know if I could do that.

968
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.239
<v Speaker 4>So I said, then I don't know if I can

969
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:01.360
<v Speaker 4>come and frankly speaking, if I'm not going to report

970
00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:04.239
<v Speaker 4>directly to the CEO, I'm not going to retort to anybody.

971
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:05.880
<v Speaker 4>He said, I don't know how to do it, but

972
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.199
<v Speaker 4>tell you what you want you to do. I want

973
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:10.000
<v Speaker 4>you to meet the president of the company that I'm

974
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:12.719
<v Speaker 4>suggesting you work for. I said, I tell you right now,

975
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to work for the president. You meet him.

976
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.280
<v Speaker 4>He's a great guy. So I went and met him.

977
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:20.079
<v Speaker 4>He's a great guy. Great guy, not a good guy.

978
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:22.760
<v Speaker 4>Great guy. Could I work fro him? Yeah? Would I

979
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:25.800
<v Speaker 4>work from No? So I went back to see this

980
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:28.800
<v Speaker 4>fella and I said, look, I'm not going to do this.

981
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.320
<v Speaker 4>He said, Mark, listen, if you want to be in

982
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:33.480
<v Speaker 4>the game, you have to be in the game.

983
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:34.519
<v Speaker 2>I like that quote.

984
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:35.840
<v Speaker 4>You want to be in the game, you have to

985
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:39.000
<v Speaker 4>be in the game. I reminded him that. He called

986
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:41.320
<v Speaker 4>me said, I don't need to be in this game.

987
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:43.480
<v Speaker 4>I've been there, done it. I said, I'm in a

988
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.440
<v Speaker 4>different game. I'm an entertainment I'm on radio, I'm on podcast.

989
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:49.760
<v Speaker 4>I love it. It's incredibly hard, and frankly, it's harder

990
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:51.719
<v Speaker 4>than what you're asking me to do. What you've done,

991
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:53.719
<v Speaker 4>and what you're asking me to do here, I've done

992
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:56.119
<v Speaker 4>in my sleep a thousand times. Can I do it?

993
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:58.960
<v Speaker 4>Can I make your company better? Can I make this

994
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:00.599
<v Speaker 4>thing a win for what you're trying to do with

995
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:04.239
<v Speaker 4>your partner? Absolutely? No brainer. And by the way, just

996
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.119
<v Speaker 4>having me around, whether I'm on your board or reporting

997
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.239
<v Speaker 4>to you, would make all your other endeavors better because

998
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:14.360
<v Speaker 4>somehow or another, I always find a way to earn

999
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:18.039
<v Speaker 4>my key to be value added. I don't know if

1000
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:21.119
<v Speaker 4>I could do that. I said, listen, what I know

1001
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.079
<v Speaker 4>of you, you can do whatever you want. He said,

1002
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:26.679
<v Speaker 4>let me talk to my partner, and they I said, well, listen,

1003
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:31.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say to you no right now, And

1004
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:36.280
<v Speaker 4>I can tell you that I am internally grateful that

1005
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:40.280
<v Speaker 4>you thought of me. I am honored that you thought

1006
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:43.920
<v Speaker 4>I'd be an addition to your company. And nothing would

1007
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:47.119
<v Speaker 4>please me more than if I came back to work

1008
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:50.000
<v Speaker 4>to work directly for you. But I'll have to say no,

1009
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.159
<v Speaker 4>he said, let me think about it. He thought about it,

1010
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.719
<v Speaker 4>and we ended up passing. The point of the story

1011
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:56.960
<v Speaker 4>is is I've talked about this a number of times.

1012
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:01.960
<v Speaker 4>First of all, negotiation, he who could walk away wins.

1013
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:05.599
<v Speaker 4>In this case, both of us could walk away. If

1014
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:08.719
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't me, there's someone else. I often talk about this.

1015
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Everyone's replaceable. There's an edict that says no one's irreplaceable.

1016
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:17.480
<v Speaker 4>Anyone who says differently is a fool. And one thing

1017
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:19.679
<v Speaker 4>I'm not as a fool. I know I could be replaced.

1018
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:23.119
<v Speaker 4>I know anybody could be replaced. The problem with that

1019
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:26.840
<v Speaker 4>idiom is when you have someone who's really great and

1020
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:30.239
<v Speaker 4>they leave, a little light goes out, a little star

1021
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:33.559
<v Speaker 4>goes off because you're losing something that was very special.

1022
00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:36.519
<v Speaker 4>And when I, in my case, we both could walk away,

1023
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:40.440
<v Speaker 4>and I felt that he was a little less shine

1024
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:42.519
<v Speaker 4>on what he was trying to do not having me there.

1025
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:44.920
<v Speaker 4>But it's his choice. I respect it, and as I said,

1026
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.880
<v Speaker 4>I was honored and grateful. And the point of the

1027
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 4>story is, back in the day I said it, I

1028
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:54.360
<v Speaker 4>realized money wasn't the answer to everything. But I realized

1029
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:59.199
<v Speaker 4>money if handled properly, if planned well, your pensions, your

1030
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:02.519
<v Speaker 4>four oh one can The money you save allows you

1031
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:07.000
<v Speaker 4>to have what a colloquial call a few money. And

1032
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:10.000
<v Speaker 4>I was able to walk away like a man with

1033
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:11.599
<v Speaker 4>that in mind. Good Night,
