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Speaker 2: It is a Tuesday morning, November twenty six, and Neil
Speaker 2: is out today Tomorrow. He's back Thursday the Thanksgiving show
Speaker 2: that he does every year, filling in for me if
Speaker 2: you will, six to nine. But it's his show where
Speaker 2: he answers question to call in show and give you
Speaker 2: tips on Thanksgiving cooking and eating. So that is this Thursday,
Speaker 2: and then Friday. Filling in for me is Wayne Resnik,
Speaker 2: and we're all back on Monday. And on Tuesday, we're
Speaker 2: all at the Anaheim White House for Catarina's Club starting
Speaker 2: at five am and at six am.
Speaker 1: The rest of the rest of us go aboard real
Speaker 1: jew bagels at six.
Speaker 2: Always very impressive, and pastries, coffee, et cetera starting at
Speaker 2: five now. Yesterday a special council, Jack Smith, formally asked
Speaker 2: that the criminal cases against Donald Trump be dismissed and
Speaker 2: no surprise there so he dropped the twenty twenty election
Speaker 2: subversion prosecution and the charges accusing Trump of mishandling classified documents,
Speaker 2: and he stressed decisions not about the strength of his case.
Speaker 2: He thinks Trump is still guilty, but his reasoning was
Speaker 2: based on the Justice Department's long held belief the Constitution
Speaker 2: prohibits prosecutions against sitting presidents. And by the way, even
Speaker 2: if prosecutors had believed they could have kept the cases
Speaker 2: on life support, which was never going to happen, the
Speaker 2: President elect had already said he's got to fire Smith instantly,
Speaker 2: and so the case is going to be dropped. Now
Speaker 2: that usually that breaches the usual norms of a special
Speaker 2: Council investigation. But then again, the current administration is following
Speaker 2: the special norms, following procedure that the Justice Apartment has
Speaker 2: the fire wall between a president and the DOJ.
Speaker 1: Trump is blowing that wide open.
Speaker 2: The Justice Apartment is simply going to be part of
Speaker 2: the executive branch.
Speaker 1: That's it. He'll be telling it what to do.
Speaker 2: There will be no separation, there will be absolutely no
Speaker 2: firewall there.
Speaker 1: So how did this happen?
Speaker 2: Well, Trump's lawyers, who are very good, and clearly he
Speaker 2: has the money to pay Trump's lawyers. The straw that
Speaker 2: broke the Cammell's back was the slow walking courts. The
Speaker 2: legal arguments, some of them are ridiculous by Trump's lawyers,
Speaker 2: but still had to be heard and all of that.
Speaker 1: It was delay that did it.
Speaker 2: And the Supreme Court ruling in Trump's favor about immunity
Speaker 2: for a sitting president if what he does is quote
Speaker 2: as in a national as a national act by a
Speaker 2: president president, and then we also have you what normally happens,
Speaker 2: though it doesn't happen during a presidency.
Speaker 1: Trump has said outright he is going to investigate.
Speaker 2: Everybody who voted against him, who went as his prosecution,
Speaker 2: straight out investigate. He said he will arrest those people
Speaker 2: and he will put them in jail. And usually sitting
Speaker 2: presidents don't say that. It's a very strange way of
Speaker 2: doing it. And so the federal judge in Florida who
Speaker 2: dismissed a lot of these federal cases is a woman
Speaker 2: who's a Trump appointee. And I want to make something
Speaker 2: very clear, is that he got this federal judge because
Speaker 2: he pushed for it.
Speaker 1: And the judiciary allowed him to have it. That's not
Speaker 1: the way it works.
Speaker 2: How it works is there is a rotating panel and
Speaker 2: it is by luck you get a judge or you
Speaker 2: don't get a judge. And in federal court, depending on
Speaker 2: who the judge, is you're gonna get nailed if you're
Speaker 2: gonna have a hanging judge, or you're gonna have.
Speaker 1: A liberal judge.
Speaker 2: Glorian for example, got the one judge that actually was
Speaker 2: on his side when he argued that the federal government
Speaker 2: set him up.
Speaker 1: Why is that because this federal judge.
Speaker 2: As a kid, was in an internment camp during World
Speaker 2: War Two as a Japanese American, he did not trust
Speaker 2: the government a whole lot. So in the case of
Speaker 2: this judge, and her name is.
Speaker 1: I always forget.
Speaker 2: I'm so horrible at names in any case, I'll come
Speaker 2: up with it and start screaming at it. In just
Speaker 2: a moment, she was so pro Trump, is so pro Trump,
Speaker 2: that virtually every motion made before her by the Trump
Speaker 2: team she granted.
Speaker 1: And at the end of that process.
Speaker 2: Where she was on Trump's side the whole time, she
Speaker 2: dismissed the entire case. Judge Eileen Cannon is her name,
Speaker 2: And it was simply the former president the new president
Speaker 2: getting just the best draw the cards that he could.
Speaker 1: So there's pure luck there in that case.
Speaker 2: And in terms of Trump's position, you remember when he said.
Speaker 1: When he was running, I think the first time out.
Speaker 2: I could stand on Broadway in New York high noon,
Speaker 2: shoot someone and I would get acquitted.
Speaker 1: You know that's true. I am absolutely believing that.
Speaker 2: And there's going to be a presidency that is going
Speaker 2: to be unlike any presidency we have ever seen.
Speaker 1: And before we go, I want to ask Amy a
Speaker 1: quick question.
Speaker 2: Okay, because you're such a Disneyland fan, I'm digressing because how.
Speaker 1: Unusual for this show.
Speaker 2: How much do you think it would cost to go
Speaker 2: to Disneyland today if you looked at inflation from nineteen
Speaker 2: fifty five when Disneyland opened till today, how much you
Speaker 2: think would be the cost of actually going to Disneyland
Speaker 2: if you adjust for inflation?
Speaker 1: I have no idea eleven dollars.
Speaker 2: Now, granted, Disneyland is a very no, it's a very
Speaker 2: different place. Yeah, and there's a twenty dollars twenty two
Speaker 2: dollars minimum wage, you know, I mean.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not arguing that was a dollar minimum wage.
Speaker 2: I'm not arguing that. All I'm all I'm doing is
Speaker 2: asking that question. Okay, Okay, Disneyland.
Speaker 1: What year nineteen fifty five? Good? What month? Oh uh?
Speaker 2: Where's Nick Poliochini When I need them?
Speaker 1: I don't remember July. Oh, and it was super hot
Speaker 1: and super hot. The pavement hadn't all the way that's right,
Speaker 1: the asphalt people had said at Lottle heels, that's true.
Speaker 1: Are you thinking into this cement? Who was it was televised.
Speaker 2: I've done a whole history of that with ABC and
Speaker 2: the connection. Do you know who the host was of
Speaker 2: the of the televised broadcast?
Speaker 1: Who was the host of artlind Cletter? Remember artlind Cletter?
Speaker 1: I know the name. Okay.
Speaker 2: He was the most highly paid television star on television
Speaker 2: at the time. Friends of Walt Disney. Walt Disney asked
Speaker 2: him to host the television broadcast. He said, now you
Speaker 2: can't afford me, you know, just.
Speaker 1: I'll do it.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'll do, Walt Disney, just give
Speaker 2: me the concession for the Kodak booths selling the film
Speaker 2: in Disneyland for ten years.
Speaker 1: Smart. He said, it was the best deal he ever
Speaker 1: made in his life. There's a whole story there.
Speaker 2: It's a fun story about the opening of Disneyland, which
Speaker 2: now it's history.
Speaker 1: I love history, as you know.
Speaker 2: All right, Day one tariffs are kicking in, according to
Speaker 2: the President elect.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you.
Speaker 2: Who is is a group of people that are most
Speaker 2: in favor of Donald Trump. We're going to get the
Speaker 2: most nailed by Donald Trump. I'll explain that when we
Speaker 2: come back. Bob Cummings also is there at Disneyland at
Speaker 2: the opening. Who's Bob Cummings.
Speaker 1: He was a big television star. Oh at that time too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all these obscure people go figure, you know what
Speaker 2: was Hitler's dog name?
Speaker 1: Blondie? Blonde Blondie.
Speaker 2: Okay, for those of you that don't care or think
Speaker 2: I'm spending too much time or not looking into it,
Speaker 2: you should because life is going to change dramatically under
Speaker 2: a Trump presidency, because it has sort of been the
Speaker 2: same both through Republican and through democratic administrations over the last.
Speaker 1: Twenty thirty years.
Speaker 2: One of the things that the President lex said He's
Speaker 2: going to impose tariffs on all products coming in the
Speaker 2: United States from Canada, Mexico, and China his first day
Speaker 2: in office.
Speaker 1: What's that going to do is going to scramble supply chains.
Speaker 2: It's going to impose pretty heavy costs and companies that
Speaker 2: were American companies that rely doing business with these economies.
Speaker 2: On truth social he mentioned caravan of immigrants making his
Speaker 2: way to the United States. He's done that before. And
Speaker 2: he said that these tariffs that he is imposing will
Speaker 2: remain in effect until such time as drugs, in particular
Speaker 2: fentanyl and all illegal aliens stop this invasion of our country.
Speaker 2: So he's connecting the two and are they're not necessarily
Speaker 2: connect the bull but there are some And in a
Speaker 2: separate post, he threatened an additional ten percent on products
Speaker 2: coming from China, although he has said one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: We don't know it whether he's going to go one
Speaker 2: way or the other. We know there's going to be tariffs,
Speaker 2: so I think they're going to be tariffs. And this,
Speaker 2: if you put them together, these threats, tariff threats, basically
Speaker 2: an ultimatum against the three largest trading partner of the US,
Speaker 2: and it's going to just create chaos and our diplomatic
Speaker 2: economic relationships, probably even before it's already happening now before
Speaker 2: January twentieth. The currencies of canaon Mexico are now sliding
Speaker 2: against the dollar the Chinese embassy war.
Speaker 1: No one will win a trade war.
Speaker 2: There are some serious implications for American industry, auto manufacturers,
Speaker 2: food packagers, particularly farmers, farmers are going to get nailed
Speaker 2: because of the illegal alien situation.
Speaker 1: Because the third of the farmers.
Speaker 2: According to a study done by the Wall Street Journal
Speaker 2: and the New York Times, a third of the farm
Speaker 2: workers are illegal migrants. Now, the people will own the farms.
Speaker 2: Technically they're following the rules, but they're not. And it's
Speaker 2: very easy to break the rules on that. And then
Speaker 2: the argument's going to be who's going to pick the strawberries?
Speaker 2: Right Conservatives say, well, it's Americans will pick the strawberries
Speaker 2: because these illegal aliens are taking jobs. How many people
Speaker 2: do you know pick strawberries or cabbage or oranges. I
Speaker 2: don't know any even if it was twenty dollars an
Speaker 2: hour would they do that. They won't work, and they
Speaker 2: won't work at fast food chains, much less pick vegetables.
Speaker 1: Off of the ground.
Speaker 2: Now, one of the things is that even during his administration,
Speaker 2: prior Trump threatened tariffs and use them as a negotiating ploy.
Speaker 2: And I want to say a word now about tariffs,
Speaker 2: the threat of tariffs and dealing with foreign countries, particularly China.
Speaker 2: Exports are more important to a country than imports. Balance
Speaker 2: of trade, the healthier economy means that a company, a
Speaker 2: country is exporting goods more than importing goods. We have
Speaker 2: a balance of trade that is miserable. We have a
Speaker 2: negative balance and have for years and years. And the
Speaker 2: amount of money in terms of negative trade is it's
Speaker 2: either three different levels insanely insane number. The second level
Speaker 2: is a prohibitively punitive intergalactically number, and the third level
Speaker 2: is gee.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know we could do that number. And particularly.
Speaker 2: China, because they're not fair and previous presidents have rolled over.
Speaker 1: That's it. They've just rolled over with China.
Speaker 2: China exports to us in a huge way, far more
Speaker 2: than they import. They have tariffs, they have rules, they
Speaker 2: make it possible country for companies to do business there.
Speaker 2: I mean, we have trade agreements that they breach constantly.
Speaker 2: And the only president that we've had that will in
Speaker 2: fact hold them to the fire, I think is Trump.
Speaker 1: Trump has balls that you have to give him.
Speaker 2: Agree with him, don't agree with him, and I disagree
Speaker 2: with him on so many issues. He's the only one
Speaker 2: that had the guts to move the embassy in.
Speaker 1: Israel to Jerusalem.
Speaker 2: Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since nineteen forty eight,
Speaker 2: when it was declared a sovereign country when it said,
Speaker 2: we are an independent country.
Speaker 1: This is our capital until Trump moved the capital to
Speaker 1: Jerusalem from Tel Aviv, moved our embassy.
Speaker 2: No one else would do that. So we're in for
Speaker 2: a ride. Farmers are going to get nailed. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you that right now.
Speaker 1: They're going to end.
Speaker 2: They're among the most supportive of the administration. They voted
Speaker 2: in favor of Trump in massive numbers, overwhelmingly, and they're
Speaker 2: they're gonna get nailed.
Speaker 1: It's that simple. We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: I'm going to follow up on this one big time
Speaker 2: and again I'm going to reiterate. If you think I'm
Speaker 2: spending too much time on talking about what's happening or
Speaker 2: what's going to happen during the Trump administration, mark my words.
Speaker 2: It is going to affect us deeply across the board
Speaker 2: in a way that I don't believe a president a
Speaker 2: presidency has affected us. Okay, fair enough, Now, we passed
Speaker 2: Prop thirty six overwhelmingly this past election, like seventy percent.
Speaker 1: What Prop thirty six do?
Speaker 2: It undid a lot of Prop forty seven, which we
Speaker 2: pass to reduce the penalties for misdemeanor crimes or felony crimes,
Speaker 2: especially in the shoplifting world, down to misdemeanors. And now
Speaker 2: what that was during the movement of the anti police
Speaker 2: movement that defund the police movement. Well those days are
Speaker 2: gone and that's just dead as a doornail. Now we're
Speaker 2: going the other way. Now we want to nail people
Speaker 2: we don't like, criminals. And instead of blaming the police
Speaker 2: and the courts, you know what, we're blaming criminals for
Speaker 2: criminal acts. What a shocker, How novel is that? Well,
Speaker 2: the problem is if we're making what used to be
Speaker 2: felonies misdemeanors and bringing back to felonies, that means jail time.
Speaker 2: And the problem with jails in La County is that
Speaker 2: they suck.
Speaker 1: Over crowding like crazy.
Speaker 2: Not enough money you spent. Doesn't really even matter how
Speaker 2: much money you spent. Men's Central Jail has to be
Speaker 2: torn up billions of dollars and you even have, for examples,
Speaker 2: the Juvenile Hall, the largest juvenile facility that has to close.
Speaker 2: And all of that is going to cost tons of money.
Speaker 2: Peter Eliasburg, who is Chief Counsel of the Aslo of
Speaker 2: Southern California, who was involved in filing a lawsuit against
Speaker 2: the county, of which was settled, said, anyone who goes
Speaker 2: into jails now, particularly men central, would be appalled to
Speaker 2: the conditions. And if you add more crowding, that becomes crazy.
Speaker 2: And he is effectively saying, you don't want what you
Speaker 2: wish for what you want, you don't want.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense, No, of course not.
Speaker 2: What Prop thirty six did was effectively, we make certain
Speaker 2: crimes well more serious. That means more jail time. Adding
Speaker 2: thousands of inmates to state prisons and county jails would
Speaker 2: slow down the system, not only the case resolution but
Speaker 2: trials court systems slow it down and actually cut available
Speaker 2: funds for mental health and drug treatment and victim services
Speaker 2: by the tens of millions of dollars every year. And
Speaker 2: part of Prop thirty six was to increase money for
Speaker 2: those services. The new DA is looking at them. He
Speaker 2: has not said anything, and that's Nathan Hawkman. He doesn't
Speaker 2: know how he's gonna deal with the new increases and
Speaker 2: what is now considered serious crimes which used to be
Speaker 2: and then was, and then did not and now is again.
Speaker 2: How do you describes himself? Is he a conservative who
Speaker 2: wants to punish inmate.
Speaker 1: Who wants to punish bad guys?
Speaker 2: Is he a liberal who thinks that there's no such
Speaker 2: thing as a bad guy.
Speaker 1: It's our fault.
Speaker 2: It's society's fault that creates bad people, that creates criminals.
Speaker 2: He talks to himself. He described himself as having a.
Speaker 1: Hard middle approach.
Speaker 2: Doesn't like one, doesn't like the other, doesn't believe in
Speaker 2: MOUs incarceration or dcarceration.
Speaker 1: And his pledge is to ensure.
Speaker 2: That LA Counties jails and juvenile halls are safe, constitutional, rehabilitative.
Speaker 1: They're not. They are not safe, they're not.
Speaker 2: Constitutional according to a federal judge or two that has
Speaker 2: ordered them to change. And they're certainly not rehabilia to
Speaker 2: how does that pronounce rehabilitative?
Speaker 1: Rehabilitative?
Speaker 2: Very good with words, and he paraphrased the quote, which
Speaker 2: was really interesting.
Speaker 1: You don't even usually hear a politicians say this.
Speaker 2: He quoted from Fyodor Dostoyevsky Russian novelists right Warren piece
Speaker 2: who said you can judge the quality of a civilization
Speaker 2: by the quality of its jails and prisons. Dan Hawkman said,
Speaker 2: under that Lens La County has failed, and it has
Speaker 2: so we don't know the outcome yet are we willing
Speaker 2: to pay the.
Speaker 1: Price which is very expensive to keep people in prison?
Speaker 2: If the United States has more prisoners than any country
Speaker 2: in the world, both in terms of number and per capita.
Speaker 2: Now China would have more prisoners, but they just kill people.
Speaker 2: You get a traffic ticket in China, they either shoot
Speaker 2: you by the side of the road or they shoot
Speaker 2: you in jail. So other countries, well, you go to
Speaker 2: Scandinavian countries, virtually no crime.
Speaker 1: Certainly there are no.
Speaker 2: Gun crime because we're the only country of the world,
Speaker 2: that civilized country, that is first world country.
Speaker 1: We're just different that has gun ownership. We're just very different.
Speaker 1: That's all. The problem is.
Speaker 2: We have a huge number of criminals, more so per
Speaker 2: capita than other countries, and more people in jail. And
Speaker 2: under Prop thirty six, we're gonna have even more people
Speaker 2: in jail.
Speaker 1: All right, yesterday, big news in the world of the
Speaker 1: Menendez brothers.
Speaker 2: By the way, this story is being covered internationally all
Speaker 2: over the world.
Speaker 1: That's what internationally means.
Speaker 2: I think, see, I gotta tell you, you listen to me,
Speaker 2: you get the scoop It is a story of the
Speaker 2: two brothers killing their parents and me, just as I said,
Speaker 2: And it's a southern California story, so you could imagine
Speaker 2: how it engaged. We are here and they were convicted
Speaker 2: of killing mom and dad and sentenced to life imprisonment
Speaker 2: without possibility of parole.
Speaker 1: This was thirty five years ago. There were two trials.
Speaker 2: First of when we had a hungary and a lot
Speaker 2: of evidence was presented about the father raping Lyle.
Speaker 1: I mean, sexual abuse of this kid.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, And the jury hung on this second trial and
Speaker 2: the judge didn't let that information in, didn't let that
Speaker 2: evidence in, so it was an easy conviction for the jury.
Speaker 2: So here we are thirty five years later, and the
Speaker 2: family members of the menandez brothers, I mean virtually all
Speaker 2: of them are pleading with the court, pleading with the
Speaker 2: judge to re sentence the brothers. Re sentencing them means
Speaker 2: that they're walking out the door because they get credit
Speaker 2: for time served. Also, the governor is being asked for clemency.
Speaker 2: You know who asked them for clemency, George Gascon and others.
Speaker 2: It's almost universal, all of us, and I put myself
Speaker 2: in that category. Are on their side. One family members
Speaker 2: against it, uncle and some prosecutors, but the rest of
Speaker 2: the people out there, and if they took a poll,
Speaker 2: it would be absolutely overwhelming. So we know what happened,
Speaker 2: we know what's going on now legally. But I want
Speaker 2: to share with you what these two have done in
Speaker 2: their thirty five years in prison, not just model prisoners,
Speaker 2: which means no disciplinary action, but have set up programs
Speaker 2: to help other prisoners, and I mean a big, big way,
Speaker 2: and not for publicity, not sake, not for the argument
Speaker 2: that they should be resentenced, because they simply did this
Speaker 2: to make their lives mean something. Lyle earned a BA
Speaker 2: degree in sociology from UC Irvine this year, working on
Speaker 2: his Masters and urban development. Eric is going to graduate
Speaker 2: from UC Irvine with a degree in sociology this fall.
Speaker 2: And one of the prisoners who we only have the
Speaker 2: name Abro, said Eric gave me a sense of purpose.
Speaker 2: By the way, Abro was sentenced to life without possibility
Speaker 2: of parole. And what Abro said is that Eric gave him,
Speaker 2: or Lyle gave.
Speaker 1: Him a sense of purpose and was a mentor to me.
Speaker 2: He and Lyle began a rehabilitation through the beautification project inmates,
Speaker 2: worked on upgrades for the prison, creating green spaces, painting
Speaker 2: a huge mural. Both of them have been involved in
Speaker 2: setting up programs that simply help prisoners, even to the
Speaker 2: point where not only did the prisoners admire them, but
Speaker 2: the prison guards themselves think that these two should be released.
Speaker 1: And why is it so different now? What has changed?
Speaker 1: A couple things.
Speaker 2: First of all, a lot of publicity talking about the
Speaker 2: kind of sexual assaults that happened upon Lyle during the
Speaker 2: course of growing up by his father. That's one TV movie,
Speaker 2: a few documentaries there's that, and we look at sexual
Speaker 2: abuse in a very different way. During the second trial,
Speaker 2: I mean, Lyle still testified as to what his dad
Speaker 2: did to him. The problem is there was no corroboration
Speaker 2: during the first trial. There are all kinds of corroboration.
Speaker 2: People talked about it, they knew about it, but it
Speaker 2: was all secondhand stuff and it was the judge simply
Speaker 2: wouldn't let that in a trial, so he talked about
Speaker 2: it in the second trial about the abuse. One of
Speaker 2: the prosecutors has set out, right, there's this thing.
Speaker 1: Is maile rape. It doesn't exist. Maile rape is just
Speaker 1: not a thing. It's being made up. We know very
Speaker 1: differently today.
Speaker 2: So if I had to guess, I think they are
Speaker 2: going to be re sentenced, I think at the end
Speaker 2: of January. And by the way, why did the judge
Speaker 2: say we're going to wait till the end of January?
Speaker 1: Two reasons.
Speaker 2: First of all, he has to look at the documents,
Speaker 2: and there's boxes of documents. Also, he wants to know
Speaker 2: what Nathan Hockman is going to say the new DA
Speaker 2: coming in, because the Prosecutor's office have a lot of
Speaker 2: say this and they'll make the motion. And Governor Newsom,
Speaker 2: the gutless wonder that he is, won't grant clemency. He's
Speaker 2: kicking it over to Hawkman and say and says, you guys,
Speaker 2: deal with this, because he's not going to take the
Speaker 2: political hit for giving clemency. So when you look at
Speaker 2: these two, they were separated. I mean, these guys are
Speaker 2: as close as brothers can be. They were separated for
Speaker 2: thirty years, they couldn't see each other, and then in
Speaker 2: San Diego a few years ago they were put together
Speaker 2: in the same prison.
Speaker 1: So at least that he could be together. It's been
Speaker 1: brutal for them by the way they did commit murder.
Speaker 1: They admitted that.
Speaker 2: Their argument is it was self defense because we are
Speaker 2: so afraid of what Dad was doing that we had
Speaker 2: no choice. Unfortunately for them, after the murder, they took
Speaker 2: the money from the estate and spent it on rolexes
Speaker 2: and cars, and that didn't bode well.
Speaker 1: Didn't bode well at all.
Speaker 2: So the ongoing story, all right, KFI AM six forty
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