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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty and good morning everybody. Bill Handle Here.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a Tuesday morning, November twenty six, and Neil

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<v Speaker 2>is out today Tomorrow. He's back Thursday the Thanksgiving show

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<v Speaker 2>that he does every year, filling in for me if

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<v Speaker 2>you will, six to nine. But it's his show where

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<v Speaker 2>he answers question to call in show and give you

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<v Speaker 2>tips on Thanksgiving cooking and eating. So that is this Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Friday. Filling in for me is Wayne Resnik,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're all back on Monday. And on Tuesday, we're

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<v Speaker 2>all at the Anaheim White House for Catarina's Club starting

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<v Speaker 2>at five am and at six am.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest of the rest of us go aboard real

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<v Speaker 1>jew bagels at six.

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<v Speaker 2>Always very impressive, and pastries, coffee, et cetera starting at

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<v Speaker 2>five now. Yesterday a special council, Jack Smith, formally asked

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<v Speaker 2>that the criminal cases against Donald Trump be dismissed and

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<v Speaker 2>no surprise there so he dropped the twenty twenty election

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<v Speaker 2>subversion prosecution and the charges accusing Trump of mishandling classified documents,

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<v Speaker 2>and he stressed decisions not about the strength of his case.

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<v Speaker 2>He thinks Trump is still guilty, but his reasoning was

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<v Speaker 2>based on the Justice Department's long held belief the Constitution

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<v Speaker 2>prohibits prosecutions against sitting presidents. And by the way, even

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<v Speaker 2>if prosecutors had believed they could have kept the cases

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<v Speaker 2>on life support, which was never going to happen, the

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<v Speaker 2>President elect had already said he's got to fire Smith instantly,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the case is going to be dropped. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that usually that breaches the usual norms of a special

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<v Speaker 2>Council investigation. But then again, the current administration is following

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<v Speaker 2>the special norms, following procedure that the Justice Apartment has

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<v Speaker 2>the fire wall between a president and the DOJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is blowing that wide open.

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<v Speaker 2>The Justice Apartment is simply going to be part of

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<v Speaker 2>the executive branch.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. He'll be telling it what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be no separation, there will be absolutely no

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<v Speaker 2>firewall there.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did this happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Trump's lawyers, who are very good, and clearly he

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<v Speaker 2>has the money to pay Trump's lawyers. The straw that

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<v Speaker 2>broke the Cammell's back was the slow walking courts. The

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<v Speaker 2>legal arguments, some of them are ridiculous by Trump's lawyers,

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<v Speaker 2>but still had to be heard and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was delay that did it.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Supreme Court ruling in Trump's favor about immunity

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<v Speaker 2>for a sitting president if what he does is quote

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<v Speaker 2>as in a national as a national act by a

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<v Speaker 2>president president, and then we also have you what normally happens,

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<v Speaker 2>though it doesn't happen during a presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has said outright he is going to investigate.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody who voted against him, who went as his prosecution,

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<v Speaker 2>straight out investigate. He said he will arrest those people

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<v Speaker 2>and he will put them in jail. And usually sitting

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<v Speaker 2>presidents don't say that. It's a very strange way of

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. And so the federal judge in Florida who

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<v Speaker 2>dismissed a lot of these federal cases is a woman

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<v Speaker 2>who's a Trump appointee. And I want to make something

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<v Speaker 2>very clear, is that he got this federal judge because

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<v Speaker 2>he pushed for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the judiciary allowed him to have it. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>the way it works.

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<v Speaker 2>How it works is there is a rotating panel and

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<v Speaker 2>it is by luck you get a judge or you

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<v Speaker 2>don't get a judge. And in federal court, depending on

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<v Speaker 2>who the judge, is you're gonna get nailed if you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a hanging judge, or you're gonna have.

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<v Speaker 1>A liberal judge.

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<v Speaker 2>Glorian for example, got the one judge that actually was

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<v Speaker 2>on his side when he argued that the federal government

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<v Speaker 2>set him up.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that because this federal judge.

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<v Speaker 2>As a kid, was in an internment camp during World

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<v Speaker 2>War Two as a Japanese American, he did not trust

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<v Speaker 2>the government a whole lot. So in the case of

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<v Speaker 2>this judge, and her name is.

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<v Speaker 1>I always forget.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so horrible at names in any case, I'll come

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<v Speaker 2>up with it and start screaming at it. In just

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<v Speaker 2>a moment, she was so pro Trump, is so pro Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>that virtually every motion made before her by the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end of that process.

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<v Speaker 2>Where she was on Trump's side the whole time, she

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<v Speaker 2>dismissed the entire case. Judge Eileen Cannon is her name,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was simply the former president the new president

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<v Speaker 2>getting just the best draw the cards that he could.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's pure luck there in that case.

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<v Speaker 2>And in terms of Trump's position, you remember when he said.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was running, I think the first time out.

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<v Speaker 2>I could stand on Broadway in New York high noon,

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<v Speaker 2>shoot someone and I would get acquitted.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's true. I am absolutely believing that.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's going to be a presidency that is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be unlike any presidency we have ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>And before we go, I want to ask Amy a

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<v Speaker 1>quick question.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because you're such a Disneyland fan, I'm digressing because how.

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<v Speaker 1>Unusual for this show.

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<v Speaker 2>How much do you think it would cost to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Disneyland today if you looked at inflation from nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five when Disneyland opened till today, how much you

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<v Speaker 2>think would be the cost of actually going to Disneyland

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<v Speaker 2>if you adjust for inflation?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea eleven dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, granted, Disneyland is a very no, it's a very

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<v Speaker 2>different place. Yeah, and there's a twenty dollars twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>dollars minimum wage, you know, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm not arguing that was a dollar minimum wage.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not arguing that. All I'm all I'm doing is

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<v Speaker 2>asking that question. Okay, Okay, Disneyland.

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<v Speaker 1>What year nineteen fifty five? Good? What month? Oh uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Where's Nick Poliochini When I need them?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember July. Oh, and it was super hot

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<v Speaker 1>and super hot. The pavement hadn't all the way that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>the asphalt people had said at Lottle heels, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you thinking into this cement? Who was it was televised.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done a whole history of that with ABC and

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<v Speaker 2>the connection. Do you know who the host was of

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<v Speaker 2>the of the televised broadcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Who was the host of artlind Cletter? Remember artlind Cletter?

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<v Speaker 1>I know the name. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the most highly paid television star on television

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. Friends of Walt Disney. Walt Disney asked

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<v Speaker 2>him to host the television broadcast. He said, now you

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<v Speaker 2>can't afford me, you know, just.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what I'll do, Walt Disney, just give

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<v Speaker 2>me the concession for the Kodak booths selling the film

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<v Speaker 2>in Disneyland for ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Smart. He said, it was the best deal he ever

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<v Speaker 1>made in his life. There's a whole story there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fun story about the opening of Disneyland, which

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<v Speaker 2>now it's history.

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<v Speaker 1>I love history, as you know.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Day one tariffs are kicking in, according to

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<v Speaker 2>the President elect.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is is a group of people that are most

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<v Speaker 2>in favor of Donald Trump. We're going to get the

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<v Speaker 2>most nailed by Donald Trump. I'll explain that when we

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<v Speaker 2>come back. Bob Cummings also is there at Disneyland at

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<v Speaker 2>the opening. Who's Bob Cummings.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a big television star. Oh at that time too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all these obscure people go figure, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>was Hitler's dog name?

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<v Speaker 1>Blondie? Blonde Blondie.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, for those of you that don't care or think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm spending too much time or not looking into it,

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<v Speaker 2>you should because life is going to change dramatically under

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<v Speaker 2>a Trump presidency, because it has sort of been the

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<v Speaker 2>same both through Republican and through democratic administrations over the last.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty thirty years.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that the President lex said He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to impose tariffs on all products coming in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States from Canada, Mexico, and China his first day

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<v Speaker 1>What's that going to do is going to scramble supply chains.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to impose pretty heavy costs and companies that

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<v Speaker 2>were American companies that rely doing business with these economies.

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<v Speaker 2>On truth social he mentioned caravan of immigrants making his

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<v Speaker 2>way to the United States. He's done that before. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said that these tariffs that he is imposing will

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<v Speaker 2>remain in effect until such time as drugs, in particular

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<v Speaker 2>fentanyl and all illegal aliens stop this invasion of our country.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's connecting the two and are they're not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>connect the bull but there are some And in a

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<v Speaker 2>separate post, he threatened an additional ten percent on products

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<v Speaker 2>coming from China, although he has said one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know it whether he's going to go one

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<v Speaker 2>way or the other. We know there's going to be tariffs,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think they're going to be tariffs. And this,

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<v Speaker 2>if you put them together, these threats, tariff threats, basically

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<v Speaker 2>an ultimatum against the three largest trading partner of the US,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's going to just create chaos and our diplomatic

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<v Speaker 2>economic relationships, probably even before it's already happening now before

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<v Speaker 2>January twentieth. The currencies of canaon Mexico are now sliding

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<v Speaker 2>against the dollar the Chinese embassy war.

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<v Speaker 1>No one will win a trade war.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some serious implications for American industry, auto manufacturers,

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<v Speaker 2>food packagers, particularly farmers, farmers are going to get nailed

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<v Speaker 2>because of the illegal alien situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the third of the farmers.

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<v Speaker 2>According to a study done by the Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 2>and the New York Times, a third of the farm

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<v Speaker 2>workers are illegal migrants. Now, the people will own the farms.

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<v Speaker 2>Technically they're following the rules, but they're not. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>very easy to break the rules on that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the argument's going to be who's going to pick the strawberries?

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<v Speaker 2>Right Conservatives say, well, it's Americans will pick the strawberries

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<v Speaker 2>because these illegal aliens are taking jobs. How many people

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<v Speaker 2>do you know pick strawberries or cabbage or oranges. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know any even if it was twenty dollars an

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<v Speaker 2>hour would they do that. They won't work, and they

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<v Speaker 2>won't work at fast food chains, much less pick vegetables.

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<v Speaker 1>Off of the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, one of the things is that even during his administration,

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<v Speaker 2>prior Trump threatened tariffs and use them as a negotiating ploy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to say a word now about tariffs,

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<v Speaker 2>the threat of tariffs and dealing with foreign countries, particularly China.

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<v Speaker 2>Exports are more important to a country than imports. Balance

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<v Speaker 2>of trade, the healthier economy means that a company, a

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<v Speaker 2>country is exporting goods more than importing goods. We have

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<v Speaker 2>a balance of trade that is miserable. We have a

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<v Speaker 2>negative balance and have for years and years. And the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of money in terms of negative trade is it's

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<v Speaker 2>either three different levels insanely insane number. The second level

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<v Speaker 2>is a prohibitively punitive intergalactically number, and the third level

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<v Speaker 2>is gee.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know we could do that number. And particularly.

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<v Speaker 2>China, because they're not fair and previous presidents have rolled over.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. They've just rolled over with China.

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<v Speaker 2>China exports to us in a huge way, far more

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<v Speaker 2>than they import. They have tariffs, they have rules, they

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<v Speaker 2>make it possible country for companies to do business there.

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<v Speaker 2>Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since nineteen forty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>This is our capital until Trump moved the capital to

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<v Speaker 1>It's that simple. We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>It is going to affect us deeply across the board

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that I don't believe a president a

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<v Speaker 2>presidency has affected us. Okay, fair enough, Now, we passed

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<v Speaker 2>Prop thirty six overwhelmingly this past election, like seventy percent.

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<v Speaker 1>What Prop thirty six do?

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<v Speaker 2>It undid a lot of Prop forty seven, which we

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<v Speaker 2>pass to reduce the penalties for misdemeanor crimes or felony crimes,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the shoplifting world, down to misdemeanors. And now

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<v Speaker 2>gone and that's just dead as a doornail. Now we're

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<v Speaker 2>going the other way. Now we want to nail people

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<v Speaker 2>we don't like, criminals. And instead of blaming the police

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<v Speaker 2>and the courts, you know what, we're blaming criminals for

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<v Speaker 2>criminal acts. What a shocker, How novel is that? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is if we're making what used to be

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<v Speaker 2>felonies misdemeanors and bringing back to felonies, that means jail time.

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<v Speaker 2>And the problem with jails in La County is that

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<v Speaker 2>they suck.

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<v Speaker 1>Over crowding like crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Not enough money you spent. Doesn't really even matter how

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<v Speaker 2>much money you spent. Men's Central Jail has to be

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<v Speaker 2>torn up billions of dollars and you even have, for examples,

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<v Speaker 2>the Juvenile Hall, the largest juvenile facility that has to close.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of that is going to cost tons of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Eliasburg, who is Chief Counsel of the Aslo of

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<v Speaker 2>the county, of which was settled, said, anyone who goes

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<v Speaker 2>into jails now, particularly men central, would be appalled to

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<v Speaker 2>the conditions. And if you add more crowding, that becomes crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And he is effectively saying, you don't want what you

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense, No, of course not.

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<v Speaker 2>What Prop thirty six did was effectively, we make certain

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<v Speaker 2>crimes well more serious. That means more jail time. Adding

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of inmates to state prisons and county jails would

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<v Speaker 2>slow down the system, not only the case resolution but

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<v Speaker 2>trials court systems slow it down and actually cut available

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<v Speaker 2>funds for mental health and drug treatment and victim services

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<v Speaker 2>by the tens of millions of dollars every year. And

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<v Speaker 2>part of Prop thirty six was to increase money for

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<v Speaker 2>those services. The new DA is looking at them. He

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<v Speaker 2>has not said anything, and that's Nathan Hawkman. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>know how he's gonna deal with the new increases and

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<v Speaker 2>what is now considered serious crimes which used to be

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<v Speaker 2>and then was, and then did not and now is again.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you describes himself? Is he a conservative who

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<v Speaker 2>wants to punish inmate.

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<v Speaker 1>Who wants to punish bad guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he a liberal who thinks that there's no such

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<v Speaker 2>thing as a bad guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's our fault.

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<v Speaker 2>It's society's fault that creates bad people, that creates criminals.

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<v Speaker 2>He talks to himself. He described himself as having a.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard middle approach.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't like one, doesn't like the other, doesn't believe in

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<v Speaker 2>MOUs incarceration or dcarceration.

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<v Speaker 1>And his pledge is to ensure.

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<v Speaker 2>That LA Counties jails and juvenile halls are safe, constitutional, rehabilitative.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not. They are not safe, they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Constitutional according to a federal judge or two that has

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<v Speaker 2>ordered them to change. And they're certainly not rehabilia to

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<v Speaker 2>how does that pronounce rehabilitative?

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<v Speaker 1>Rehabilitative?

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<v Speaker 2>Very good with words, and he paraphrased the quote, which

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<v Speaker 2>was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even usually hear a politicians say this.

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<v Speaker 2>He quoted from Fyodor Dostoyevsky Russian novelists right Warren piece

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<v Speaker 2>who said you can judge the quality of a civilization

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<v Speaker 2>by the quality of its jails and prisons. Dan Hawkman said,

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<v Speaker 2>under that Lens La County has failed, and it has

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<v Speaker 2>so we don't know the outcome yet are we willing

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<v Speaker 2>to pay the.

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<v Speaker 1>Price which is very expensive to keep people in prison?

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<v Speaker 2>If the United States has more prisoners than any country

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, both in terms of number and per capita.

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<v Speaker 2>Now China would have more prisoners, but they just kill people.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a traffic ticket in China, they either shoot

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<v Speaker 2>you by the side of the road or they shoot

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<v Speaker 2>you in jail. So other countries, well, you go to

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<v Speaker 2>Scandinavian countries, virtually no crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly there are no.

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<v Speaker 2>Gun crime because we're the only country of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>that civilized country, that is first world country.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just different that has gun ownership. We're just very different.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all. The problem is.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a huge number of criminals, more so per

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<v Speaker 2>capita than other countries, and more people in jail. And

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<v Speaker 2>under Prop thirty six, we're gonna have even more people

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<v Speaker 1>All right, yesterday, big news in the world of the

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, this story is being covered internationally all

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<v Speaker 2>over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what internationally means.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, see, I gotta tell you, you listen to me,

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<v Speaker 2>you get the scoop It is a story of the

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<v Speaker 2>two brothers killing their parents and me, just as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a southern California story, so you could imagine

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<v Speaker 2>how it engaged. We are here and they were convicted

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<v Speaker 2>of killing mom and dad and sentenced to life imprisonment

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<v Speaker 2>without possibility of parole.

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<v Speaker 1>This was thirty five years ago. There were two trials.

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<v Speaker 2>First of when we had a hungary and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of evidence was presented about the father raping Lyle.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, sexual abuse of this kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable, And the jury hung on this second trial and

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<v Speaker 2>the judge didn't let that information in, didn't let that

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<v Speaker 2>evidence in, so it was an easy conviction for the jury.

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<v Speaker 2>So here we are thirty five years later, and the

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<v Speaker 2>family members of the menandez brothers, I mean virtually all

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<v Speaker 2>of them are pleading with the court, pleading with the

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<v Speaker 2>judge to re sentence the brothers. Re sentencing them means

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<v Speaker 2>that they're walking out the door because they get credit

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<v Speaker 2>for time served. Also, the governor is being asked for clemency.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who asked them for clemency, George Gascon and others.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost universal, all of us, and I put myself

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<v Speaker 2>in that category. Are on their side. One family members

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<v Speaker 2>against it, uncle and some prosecutors, but the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the people out there, and if they took a poll,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be absolutely overwhelming. So we know what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>we know what's going on now legally. But I want

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<v Speaker 2>to share with you what these two have done in

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<v Speaker 2>their thirty five years in prison, not just model prisoners,

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<v Speaker 2>which means no disciplinary action, but have set up programs

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<v Speaker 2>to help other prisoners, and I mean a big, big way,

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<v Speaker 2>and not for publicity, not sake, not for the argument

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<v Speaker 2>that they should be resentenced, because they simply did this

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<v Speaker 2>to make their lives mean something. Lyle earned a BA

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<v Speaker 2>degree in sociology from UC Irvine this year, working on

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<v Speaker 2>his Masters and urban development. Eric is going to graduate

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<v Speaker 2>from UC Irvine with a degree in sociology this fall.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the prisoners who we only have the

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<v Speaker 2>name Abro, said Eric gave me a sense of purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Abro was sentenced to life without possibility

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<v Speaker 2>of parole. And what Abro said is that Eric gave him,

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<v Speaker 2>or Lyle gave.

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<v Speaker 1>Him a sense of purpose and was a mentor to me.

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<v Speaker 2>He and Lyle began a rehabilitation through the beautification project inmates,

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<v Speaker 2>worked on upgrades for the prison, creating green spaces, painting

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<v Speaker 2>a huge mural. Both of them have been involved in

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<v Speaker 2>setting up programs that simply help prisoners, even to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where not only did the prisoners admire them, but

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<v Speaker 2>the prison guards themselves think that these two should be released.

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<v Speaker 1>And why is it so different now? What has changed?

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<v Speaker 1>A couple things.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, a lot of publicity talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sexual assaults that happened upon Lyle during the

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<v Speaker 2>course of growing up by his father. That's one TV movie,

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<v Speaker 2>a few documentaries there's that, and we look at sexual

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<v Speaker 2>abuse in a very different way. During the second trial,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Lyle still testified as to what his dad

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<v Speaker 2>did to him. The problem is there was no corroboration

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<v Speaker 2>during the first trial. There are all kinds of corroboration.

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<v Speaker 2>People talked about it, they knew about it, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was all secondhand stuff and it was the judge simply

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't let that in a trial, so he talked about

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<v Speaker 2>it in the second trial about the abuse. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the prosecutors has set out, right, there's this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Is maile rape. It doesn't exist. Maile rape is just

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<v Speaker 1>not a thing. It's being made up. We know very

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<v Speaker 1>differently today.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I had to guess, I think they are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be re sentenced, I think at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of January. And by the way, why did the judge

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<v Speaker 2>say we're going to wait till the end of January?

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<v Speaker 1>Two reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, he has to look at the documents,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's boxes of documents. Also, he wants to know

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<v Speaker 2>what Nathan Hockman is going to say the new DA

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<v Speaker 2>coming in, because the Prosecutor's office have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>say this and they'll make the motion. And Governor Newsom,

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<v Speaker 2>the gutless wonder that he is, won't grant clemency. He's

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<v Speaker 2>kicking it over to Hawkman and say and says, you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>deal with this, because he's not going to take the

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<v Speaker 2>political hit for giving clemency. So when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>these two, they were separated. I mean, these guys are

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<v Speaker 2>as close as brothers can be. They were separated for

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years, they couldn't see each other, and then in

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego a few years ago they were put together

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<v Speaker 2>in the same prison.

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<v Speaker 1>So at least that he could be together. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>brutal for them by the way they did commit murder.

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<v Speaker 1>They admitted that.

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<v Speaker 2>Their argument is it was self defense because we are

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<v Speaker 2>so afraid of what Dad was doing that we had

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<v Speaker 2>the money from the estate and spent it on rolexes

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<v Speaker 2>and cars, and that didn't bode well.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't bode well at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So the ongoing story, all right, KFI AM six forty

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<v Speaker 2>live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Catch my show Monday through Friday, six am to nine am,

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