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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Blue and Sider. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in a few minutes Jeff Picoro the UK Football Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll talk about last night's college football Championship game. Full disclosure,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff's a little bit of an Ohio State fan. He

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<v Speaker 1>grew up a Buckeyes fan because his dad played baseball there.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll also talk about the football Wildcats and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they finally landed what looks to be their starting, new,

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<v Speaker 1>starting offensive left tackle, which might be the final piece

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<v Speaker 1>of the puzzle when it comes to the portal and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to cobble together an offensive line that can get

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<v Speaker 1>things done, which they haven't really had with all due

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<v Speaker 1>respect over the last three years. You can talk all

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<v Speaker 1>you want about Mark Stoop's coaching philosophy, play calling, quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>play this and that over the last three years, which,

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<v Speaker 1>mind you, included seven wins on back to back seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>But last year, you know, was miserable, and it my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>it all comes back to the old line. Now, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more to it than that, but it starts

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<v Speaker 1>with the old line. So they appear to have put

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of work in the portal and the

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<v Speaker 1>nil and they have brought in brand new players at

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<v Speaker 1>least four to five starting positions. It looks like will

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<v Speaker 1>be transferred. So we'll talk with Jeff about that. Our

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<v Speaker 1>number two is going to be all basketball. Jack Gibbons

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<v Speaker 1>from the UK Radio network and Ben Roberts from The

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<v Speaker 1>Hero Leader, the beat writer who covers Kentucky basketball. So

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to get to, but I wanted to start

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<v Speaker 1>with that championship game last night. Ohio State beats Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame and we all thought, well, a lot of us did,

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<v Speaker 1>could be a blowout. Eight point nine point favorite Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State falls behind seven to nothing. If you didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>the game, Notre Dame goes fifteen plays with its opening

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<v Speaker 1>opening possession of the game and burns almost ten minutes

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<v Speaker 1>off the clock, and I mean rams of down Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State's throat. The touchdown play was a quarterback keeper where

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<v Speaker 1>the guy ran through the line almost untouched. So now

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, oh, we've got a ballgame. And then Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State takes over into the first quarter, into the second quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>puts up twenty one points in the second quarter unanswered,

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<v Speaker 1>and then comes out and right away it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it is going to take an even bigger lead. With

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<v Speaker 1>some huge plays, but at one point fumbles the ball

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<v Speaker 1>to Notre Dame, gives up an opportunity to score. Long

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<v Speaker 1>story short Notre Dame, and if you saw the game,

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<v Speaker 1>you saw it falls mind by a couple of touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>puts one up late to make it a one score game,

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<v Speaker 1>gets the two point conversion, and now all the not

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<v Speaker 1>easier said it's done. All Notre Dame had to do

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<v Speaker 1>was stop the Buckeyes one more time to give themselves

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<v Speaker 1>at least a chance to score a touchdown. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a long shot, but score a touchdown and get the

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<v Speaker 1>game into overtime would have taken a conversion. But Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 1>on a big third down play, goes deep and completes

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<v Speaker 1>a pass which the Buckeyes have done all year, and

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<v Speaker 1>they put it away. We'll talk to Jeff about all

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<v Speaker 1>of this, but also about Kentucky's movements in the portal.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did want to mention the fact, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>that the open to the broadcast, which was a video

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<v Speaker 1>essay about two minutes long, very nicely done by ESPN.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I'm a former documentary producer when I was

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<v Speaker 1>with w KYT, so I love stuff like this. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you missed it. It was this great collection of

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<v Speaker 1>video clips through the years with Ohio State and Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 1>highlighting the tradition of each respective program. The narrator was common,

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<v Speaker 1>the rapper, the musical artist. And I bring this up

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<v Speaker 1>because this is becoming more and more common, no pun

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<v Speaker 1>intended with the TV networks, and I like it. Where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ahead of a Texas game, Matthew McConaughey did

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<v Speaker 1>a voice over and then you know there are more

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<v Speaker 1>than one instance like this, so that in mind, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you were listening to our UK network this year,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we did the same thing with what we

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<v Speaker 1>called celebrity monologues and we had former players. Rich Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>did one. John Schlarman's widow Leanne did the voice over

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<v Speaker 1>prior to Kentucky's game with Tennessee, hearkening back to the

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<v Speaker 1>win at Tennessee where John was there with the team

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<v Speaker 1>and inspired the team to the victory. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>love stuff like that, and this was part of the

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<v Speaker 1>voice So I won't play the whole thing for you,

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<v Speaker 1>but this pulled together a bunch of clips from former coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean legendary coaches for both Notre Dame and Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 2>If you take him to caller to move away, do

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<v Speaker 2>you have everything? You got your horse in his place

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<v Speaker 2>to day the name right away, by bye bye bye.

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<v Speaker 2>You fight for everything you believe in each other.

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<v Speaker 1>This program would by.

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<v Speaker 3>The night you see these teams and since the presence

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<v Speaker 3>of the pass, and there.

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<v Speaker 4>The players became us, coaches us and knows the stuff

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<v Speaker 4>of legend.

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<v Speaker 2>No gods.

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<v Speaker 1>Party begins with all these things. The guy yelling we

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<v Speaker 1>fight tonight, that's Ryan Day, the Colonel House State coach who,

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<v Speaker 1>if some Ohowse State fans had their way today the

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<v Speaker 1>day after the championship game, would be fired. Why well,

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<v Speaker 1>because he lost to Michigan. And if you think uk

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<v Speaker 1>U of l brings out the best slash worst in

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<v Speaker 1>basketball fans in the Bluegrass man Ohio State, Michigan is nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are fans who actually said on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope we lose, Notre Dame will make it easier

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<v Speaker 1>to fire this guy. I don't care if we win

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<v Speaker 1>or not. It's nuts. Nick Saban talked about that in

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<v Speaker 1>the pregame show on College Game Day, and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think it is absolutely ridiculous that Ryan Day has been

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<v Speaker 5>criticized the way he has, having been a coach, having

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<v Speaker 5>coach at Ohio State and lived in the state for

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<v Speaker 5>twelve or fourteen years. I'm telling you, when the fans

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<v Speaker 5>are negative and the media gets negative, it affects so

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<v Speaker 5>many things. You know, you got to give the guy credit.

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<v Speaker 5>He built the roster. He's built the roster for three

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<v Speaker 5>years and it's gotten better. His coaches have made the

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<v Speaker 5>players better, and they made a lot of improvement, and

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<v Speaker 5>they've overcome adversity, especially in the Michigan game. So we

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<v Speaker 5>should be given the guy credit and being positive because

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<v Speaker 5>every time you're negative, it affects recruiting, it affects everything

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<v Speaker 5>that you do. And he's been able to over come

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<v Speaker 5>the naysayers and still get to the National Championship Game

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<v Speaker 5>and win or lose. I think that's that guy deserves respect.

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<v Speaker 1>He does deserve the respect. He's getting it even more today.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got to think that it's a distinct minority

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State fans who wont him fired at least today.

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<v Speaker 1>But you gotta beat Michigan, man. If you're Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta beat Michigan. I wanted to quickly talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL because something popped up again on social media

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<v Speaker 1>on Up In Adams. It's an online show with a

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<v Speaker 1>woman named Kay Adams. Chris Simms, who has become something

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, he's a media guy now. Former quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>at Texas, committed to Tennessee and then went to Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>had an up and down career, went to the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>mostly a backup, and in fact, he suffered a terrible

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<v Speaker 1>injury where he suffered a ruptured spleen and he later

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<v Speaker 1>said if he had gone another forty five minutes without treatment,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't know what was wrong with him at first.

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<v Speaker 1>If he had gone another forty five minutes, you would

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<v Speaker 1>have died. Anyhow, did not have a great NFL career,

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<v Speaker 1>but winds up a media guy. That's a pretty good job.

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<v Speaker 1>Son of Phil Simms, the Louisville native, who of course

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<v Speaker 1>starred at Morehead. And I kind of liked what Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Simsons simly because I agree with him on the Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Andrews drop of the two point conversion. Andrews the tight

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<v Speaker 1>end for Baltimore, who could have put the game into

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<v Speaker 1>overtime if he makes the catch, but he would have

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<v Speaker 1>had to make a really good tumbling backwards catch, and

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<v Speaker 1>some of that blame I thought right away should have

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<v Speaker 1>gone to Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 3>But what do I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Chris Sims played the position at college and on

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<v Speaker 1>the pro level, and he knows, and he was not

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<v Speaker 1>afraid in pointing out that he felt like as much

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<v Speaker 1>blame as Andrews deserves and is getting, Lamar deserves to

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<v Speaker 1>share the blame as well, because it wasn't a really

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<v Speaker 1>catchable Well, it was catchable, but he made it a

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<v Speaker 1>lot tougher than it should have been. And he starts

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<v Speaker 1>off talking to Kay Adams showing the video clip the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Lamar, as you rolled out, waited just a

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<v Speaker 1>split second too long to get rid of the football.

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<v Speaker 2>When he played right here. This is perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, throw it, throw it, throw it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too late. Lamar Jackson's making fifty five million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a year. That fall needs to be on time, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was not accurate. Mark Andrews needs to catch it.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get me wrong, but Lamar Jackson's making fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars a year. He double clutched it and threw

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<v Speaker 2>it like a dart. And now there's Mark Andrews where

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<v Speaker 2>it's cold. We're going to be getting in the end,

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<v Speaker 2>zone right and sh talk me through this one more time.

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<v Speaker 3>I've not in my head him like, why aren't we

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<v Speaker 3>giving it to Henry? But you're saying or we're blaming Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you saying it's too late? Well, this play

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<v Speaker 2>is open. I understand that Henry concept, but this was

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<v Speaker 2>the perfect play call. So we can't get that at

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<v Speaker 2>top bunkin.

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<v Speaker 6>And what I'm saying is that Mark Andrews in the

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<v Speaker 6>meeting today at Baltimore is going to get a negative

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<v Speaker 6>great for the drop, but also in Lamar Jackson's meeting

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<v Speaker 6>with his quarterback coach in the offensive coordinat to get

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<v Speaker 6>a negative grade for this throat he is it was late,

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<v Speaker 6>he didn't throw it with the same authority he usually

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<v Speaker 6>throws it, and then he.

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<v Speaker 2>Threw it behind him.

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<v Speaker 6>But he made it as hard as it possibly could

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<v Speaker 6>be for a wide open touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>And again I'm not giving Mark Andrews no free pass here.

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<v Speaker 2>He should have caught that. But I'm also telling you

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar certainly could.

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<v Speaker 6>Have thrown that better and made that a whole lot

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<v Speaker 6>easier on Mark Andrews in that big situation there.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there are a lot of Lamar Jackson fans

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<v Speaker 1>out there, especially at the other end of the interstate,

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<v Speaker 1>and he deserves all the accolades, probably should be the MVP.

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<v Speaker 1>But that double clutch cost him because Andrews kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got tied up in his own feet and again had

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<v Speaker 1>his back to the end zone as he tried to

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<v Speaker 1>pull the ball in, So the boss coming one way,

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<v Speaker 1>his momentums go on the other. Again, a professional who

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<v Speaker 1>should have caught it, but his quarterback didn't help him

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I just kind of liked that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit of an outlier on a lot

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<v Speaker 1>outlier on this, but I don't think he's wrong quite Frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, when we come back, we'll talk Kentucky basketball

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<v Speaker 1>with Mark Pope. We won't talk with himbody talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Leach last night about specifically the fouls that are

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<v Speaker 1>piling up against his team, especially in the conference losses,

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<v Speaker 1>plus learning the SEC and relearning it. Pope played in

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<v Speaker 1>the league, but it's nothing like it was when he

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<v Speaker 1>was here as a player. Bottom of the hour, Jet

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<v Speaker 1>Picor were here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Insider. No Kentucky men's basketball this week

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<v Speaker 1>and in the weekdays until Saturday when the Wildcats play

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<v Speaker 1>down at Vanderbilt. And of course I'm guessing the commodoers

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<v Speaker 1>as much as Georgia did, as much as Alabama did.

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<v Speaker 1>That in mind, Mark Pope told Tom Leach last night

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<v Speaker 1>free throw line so much? Twenty five percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>throw line, of Kentucky only getting about eighteen percent. So

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<v Speaker 4>that are really important. I'm not actually going to talk

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<v Speaker 4>right now, but but it's given us some real direction,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think there's a good chance that we have

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<v Speaker 4>genuine thing. There are times when I just internally and

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<v Speaker 4>the officiating. But the truth is is that usually when

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<v Speaker 4>you go back and watch the film, the officiating might

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<v Speaker 4>correlate things with the book, but there is some consistency

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<v Speaker 4>to the officiating that the consistency may be surprising to us,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's teaching us a lot, and we're growing out.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to grow really quickly in that era, but

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<v Speaker 3>in that area.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you think about our five conference wins, the

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<v Speaker 4>two games that we've struggled in and the two games

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<v Speaker 4>where we've got really really abused, we've failed to perform

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<v Speaker 4>in the free throw disparity category, and and that's a

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<v Speaker 4>place where we can really grow. And I love finding

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<v Speaker 4>places where we can grow. I actually love growing. I

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<v Speaker 4>love our team growing. And so you know, as we

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<v Speaker 4>kind of cross this the last thirty six hours, like

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<v Speaker 1>And of course the X factor and will always be

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<v Speaker 1>there is subjectivity of the officials. And I've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this before, but I asked my brother, who's been a

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<v Speaker 1>do you call a foul in the late going that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you'll let go early in the game, And he said,

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<v Speaker 1>because we've spent the entire game yelling get your hands

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<v Speaker 1>off him. So officials who used discretion early in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>late in the game of times don't have any choice

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<v Speaker 1>but to call a foul. And I respect that because

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<v Speaker 1>call a foul there because we didn't want to decide

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Well, if a guy goes up for a

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<v Speaker 1>call it, you're deciding the game. You're taking that opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>away from the team on offense. And as our friend

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<v Speaker 1>at the defender first as opposed to the offensive guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, take that for what it's worth. But

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to remember that some a foul to this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>not be a fan of that guy. And they talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a pregame, this team likes to play this way,

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<v Speaker 1>this team doesn't do that. You know, what are we

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<v Speaker 1>gonna call? What are we going to let go? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not in favor of any team in particular, but

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<v Speaker 1>they do try to use discretion because they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to many official and official about that. And

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<v Speaker 1>all of this comes against the backdrop of an SEC

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<v Speaker 1>that's as good as it's ever been. And Pope talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that about how his players are learning to play

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<v Speaker 1>in the SEC, and the rest of the country is

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<v Speaker 1>learning about the SEC, which is learning about itself.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the league is learning also. I think I

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<v Speaker 4>think all of us are learning. You know, the league

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<v Speaker 4>it also has seismic shifts. You think about Missouri from

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<v Speaker 4>last year to this year, right, there are some really

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<v Speaker 4>seismic shifts in the league also, And and the league

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<v Speaker 4>is at a competitive level that the SEC has really

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<v Speaker 4>never been at before, and I don't know if any

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<v Speaker 7>Ever been here.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, I think nine teams in the top twenty five

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<v Speaker 4>floating around. I see nine everywhere I go, and I

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<v Speaker 4>like when that happens. And so it's a beautiful time

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<v Speaker 4>to be an SEC. There's many times when it's super painful,

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<v Speaker 4>but as long as that pain has turned into us

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<v Speaker 4>growing and preparing and getting better, and it'll be.

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<v Speaker 1>Worth It can be painful, He's right about that, which means,

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<v Speaker 1>of course a loss. But if you learn from that

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<v Speaker 1>loss and get better and put it to good use,

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<v Speaker 1>put the information to good use, then yeah, you're ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. One final note, and I, of course

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<v Speaker 1>I tweaked this every year. People love to complain, at

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<v Speaker 1>least some do about quote SEC referees. Please, folks, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no such thing. There used to be those of you

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<v Speaker 1>of a certain age, and I think even younger people

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<v Speaker 1>Basketball officials come from the same pool, the high division

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<v Speaker 1>IE guys, right, the highest level guys. Now, some work

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<v Speaker 1>more SEC games than others. Some prefer to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC for whatever reason, but the league no longer

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<v Speaker 1>recruits and selects its own officials. It used to, but

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<v Speaker 1>now they come Guys who might call an SEC game

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<v Speaker 1>tonight tomorrow night will be working in the Big twelve

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<v Speaker 1>or the ACC. So do yourself a favor and stop

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<v Speaker 1>complaining about quote SEC referees because it just doesn't happen anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to, but that's not the case anymore. They

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<v Speaker 1>all come from the same pool essentially, and trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting the best of the best. Jeff Picorrel's next

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<v Speaker 1>six point thirty wlap Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider,

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<v Speaker 1>as promised, joining us on our celebrity hotline as a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who usually talks with us on Monday nights on

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<v Speaker 1>the State Wide Show. But once football wound down, we

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<v Speaker 1>excuse Jeff Picorol, Well, we've got to talk to our

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<v Speaker 1>buddy from the UK Sports Network about last night's championship

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<v Speaker 1>game and if you've heard Jeff on before. Full disclosure. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>of course grew up or was born and raised in

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<v Speaker 1>different parts of the country, but grew up in Lexingon,

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<v Speaker 1>but grew up an Ohio State fan because his dad

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<v Speaker 1>the late Grey John Piccorol played baseball at Ohio State. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff understandable that they're growing up. You're a Buckeye fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much you identify with our football team.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys still have season tickets up there, don't you.

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<v Speaker 3>We do. We've got the four season tickets to Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>State football since I can remember. Kid. But here's the

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<v Speaker 3>other thing. My grandfather's favorite team, obviously being a Catholic guy,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know from this is the Midwest, Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame was his theme man. And I've still got

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<v Speaker 3>a picture of my grandfather and uncles on the field

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<v Speaker 3>at Note back in like nineteen fifty something. It's pretty

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<v Speaker 3>cool picture. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I talked earlier about my parents who were Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame fans, you know, of Catholic. My dad converted, but

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<v Speaker 1>they took a trip at some point up and at

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<v Speaker 1>one point they toured the Notre Dame campus and they

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<v Speaker 1>bought like a little bitty letterman sweater for one of us.

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<v Speaker 1>And I still have a beanie, a Notre Dame beanie

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<v Speaker 1>that sits in my office right now. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just fun how that stuff accruised. So Anyway, we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>before about how Notre Dame and Ohio State were woefully

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<v Speaker 1>under seated, and we'll talk about that structure in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a good game, I thought. Once that

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<v Speaker 1>streak of touchdowns began for Ohio State, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it would look like that the TCU debacle from Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a good game, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I really thought that Notre Dame, well, both their

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<v Speaker 3>defenses are really good too, and Notre Dame comes right

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<v Speaker 3>out and on the first drive, Riley Leonard carries them

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<v Speaker 3>i think eight times as the quarterback, and Ohio State

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<v Speaker 3>really didn't have an answer because you know, he's the

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<v Speaker 3>plus one, so you know when they're blocking, now everybody

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<v Speaker 3>gets ahead on somebody. And then Ohio State the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>unity is then they used the spy and they were

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<v Speaker 3>front of letter and that kind of took away a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of that run game. But yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was a great plan by them. But and

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<v Speaker 3>you saw the defenses. Both of them played great. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's just the Ohio State receivers. I've never seen a

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<v Speaker 3>package like that before. I mean, you know, you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the you know, you look at some great teams

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<v Speaker 3>in the past that had one guy that really stood out,

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<v Speaker 3>but really with them, you have three or four guys. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Wows. The coach of the Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 3>Receivers that would be Ryan Hartline, who I really I

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<v Speaker 3>really think, I really say, yeah, his brother of course

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<v Speaker 3>I really think that he's passed up some opportunities to

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<v Speaker 3>move on to the pros, to the NFL. I should say,

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<v Speaker 3>he's making a ton of money there in Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 3>He's really good at what he does. And you know

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<v Speaker 3>that's the other thing when you look at these coaching staffs.

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<v Speaker 3>Are both teams al Golden for instance, that's Notre Dames

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<v Speaker 3>defensive coordinator. I think now that it's over, you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to hear today that he's going to be named the

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<v Speaker 3>Cincinnati Bengals defensive coordinator. Really, oh yeah, So, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>both of these coaching staff so you know, it's chock

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<v Speaker 3>full of guys who have been you know, been there,

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<v Speaker 3>done that, and the head coaches. You know, you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the offensive coordinator for Ohio State. Gee who is he?

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<v Speaker 3>A guy by name of Chip Kelly, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>Day who was his who played for him back when

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<v Speaker 3>they read I think it was New Hampshire. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was where less. But both of these staffs were really,

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<v Speaker 3>at some point, you know, we you make fun of

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<v Speaker 3>the thing. It's not it's not the xes and o's,

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<v Speaker 3>it's to Jimmy and Joe's and and at some point

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<v Speaker 3>that talent that Ohio State had on the outside, you

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, you're you're every time he goes back

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<v Speaker 3>to pass, you're on your edge of your seat thinking

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<v Speaker 3>something great is going to happen. And the kid, the

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<v Speaker 3>freshman is unbelievable. I mean, you know, the Tay's eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>years old. He's out there just making play after play

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a veteran out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And is it an interesting Jeff? That and Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 1>fights back makes it a game. Missed a field goal

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<v Speaker 1>which was crucial, but had one last shot, needed a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive stand, and Ohio State kills them with a big play,

422
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<v Speaker 1>a passing play when one of those receivers gets behind

423
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<v Speaker 1>a corner. And that was the game. And it reminded me, Jeff,

424
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<v Speaker 1>And you know you've covered in a baseball you've heard

425
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<v Speaker 1>this a million times where best but you can say

426
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<v Speaker 1>it in any sports. The game will find you, you know.

427
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you can't hide.

428
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<v Speaker 1>You can't hide a bad defender in right field, you know,

429
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<v Speaker 1>because the next thing you know, you've got a looping line,

430
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<v Speaker 1>drive down the right field line with a guy on

431
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<v Speaker 1>first space. U. Same thing in football. The game will

432
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<v Speaker 1>find you good or bad. And it found Ohio State's

433
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<v Speaker 1>quarterback hooking up with one of those great wide receivers

434
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<v Speaker 1>and game over. Right.

435
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The one thing that Notre Dame does a lot

436
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<v Speaker 3>is they play a lot of man and then at

437
00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:55.079
<v Speaker 3>the end they're selling out because it looks like Ohio

438
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<v Speaker 3>State's just going to try to run out the clock.

439
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<v Speaker 3>And the first two plays is I'm watching, I'm like,

440
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<v Speaker 3>what are they doing? They have great running backs and

441
00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:04.960
<v Speaker 3>they're running the quarterback on a little simple uh, you know,

442
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<v Speaker 3>just a quarterback run. And then what happened they go

443
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<v Speaker 3>zero coverage, so they they did have high safety I

444
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<v Speaker 3>should say a single high safety with their man across

445
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<v Speaker 3>the board right, so they're going to try to you know,

446
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<v Speaker 3>to try to get a stop and Ohio State gets

447
00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:22.480
<v Speaker 3>a one on one on the ast side. He just

448
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<v Speaker 3>throws that little steam or you know, fade uh and

449
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<v Speaker 3>just put it right on the money too. I mean,

450
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<v Speaker 3>I think a very underrated quarterback because I think he's

451
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<v Speaker 3>a lot better than people give him credit for. He

452
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<v Speaker 3>was really good at Kansas State, and he's the one

453
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<v Speaker 3>that they chose. You know, they wanted an upper classman,

454
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<v Speaker 3>they wont a guy that was a little bit older,

455
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<v Speaker 3>and I just thought he did a really nice job

456
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<v Speaker 3>of running the game and really he didn't rate making

457
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<v Speaker 3>a mistake. You know, Ibuka is the one who fumbled.

458
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<v Speaker 3>If he doesn't fumble, Ohio State's you know what, fifteen

459
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<v Speaker 3>yard line going in for another touchdown when he fumbled

460
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<v Speaker 3>and Notre Dame got it. But you know, that's that's

461
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<v Speaker 3>the game, and that's Notre Dame is going to do that.

462
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<v Speaker 3>They're going to play man and they're gonna they have

463
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<v Speaker 3>they trust their defensive backs and you know that. And

464
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<v Speaker 3>that was just a great pass. But I thought it

465
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<v Speaker 3>was a much better game. I thought it was going

466
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<v Speaker 3>to be a lower scoring contest, but you know, it

467
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<v Speaker 3>was fun to watch, and I didn't I like the game.

468
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<v Speaker 3>But Ohio State, I think, you know, we go through

469
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<v Speaker 3>that here at the University of Kentucky, especially in basketball,

470
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:30.319
<v Speaker 3>Ryan Day lost. They lost by one point at Oregon,

471
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<v Speaker 3>you know, is what second game of the year. And

472
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<v Speaker 3>then the only other game they lose is to Michigan,

473
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<v Speaker 3>and they want to run him out. He's won seventy

474
00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:40.000
<v Speaker 3>games and lost like ten and they want to run

475
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<v Speaker 3>him out of town because he's lost to Michigan, what

476
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<v Speaker 3>three years in a row. It's crazy. And then he

477
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<v Speaker 3>wins the National Championship and you and.

478
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<v Speaker 1>Your family being Ohio State fans, you know the culture

479
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<v Speaker 1>up there. But part of that, the extreme edge of

480
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<v Speaker 1>that culture, is there are Ohio State fans, Jeff and

481
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<v Speaker 1>you know this this morning, who still want to get

482
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<v Speaker 1>rid of him because they want to punish him for

483
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:02.200
<v Speaker 1>losing to Michigan. Again.

484
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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy, You're right, it is, uh, it is, well,

485
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:10.799
<v Speaker 3>you know that's we You and I thought and say,

486
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<v Speaker 3>it's fandom, But what fan means, you know, fanatic and

487
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:17.640
<v Speaker 3>they sure are in Ohio before I get.

488
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<v Speaker 1>The break and we start talking about Kentucky football. Uh,

489
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<v Speaker 1>this to me though, is exhibit A when it comes

490
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<v Speaker 1>to a great football program, culture to tradition, plus enough

491
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>money to go out and buy through nil means and

492
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<v Speaker 1>the portal whatever you need.

493
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<v Speaker 3>Uh you know.

494
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<v Speaker 1>And so I think that, yeah, there's parody in college football,

495
00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:44.319
<v Speaker 1>but when you're smart like Ohio State and you make

496
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<v Speaker 1>the right moves and you're a football power, it is

497
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<v Speaker 1>going to more firmly entrench you at the top, is

498
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<v Speaker 1>it not.

499
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And I think the biggest thing they did they

500
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<v Speaker 3>really didn't go out and spend a ton of money

501
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<v Speaker 3>on bringing players in. They spend a lot of money

502
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:04.319
<v Speaker 3>on keeping their players there. Most of those players, yes,

503
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:06.960
<v Speaker 3>especially on the defensive side. I think was like six

504
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:09.880
<v Speaker 3>six guys on that defense who had a chance to

505
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:11.599
<v Speaker 3>leave last year, I mean, to go to the NFL,

506
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:16.400
<v Speaker 3>and they decided to stay because Ohio State poning up money.

507
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:18.599
<v Speaker 3>And again we talked about this last night with a

508
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.960
<v Speaker 3>couple of my buddies. I mean, Carson Beck is a

509
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:23.359
<v Speaker 3>great example. He's not going to make four million dollars

510
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.319
<v Speaker 3>next year in the NFL. He's making four million dollars

511
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:29.079
<v Speaker 3>next year to be Miami's quarterback. And you're going to

512
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:31.720
<v Speaker 3>see this and you're seeing teams in it, and it's affecting,

513
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:35.319
<v Speaker 3>which I think is great. You get basketball. Look at

514
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:38.319
<v Speaker 3>that Kentucky team, there's a and again, I guess you

515
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 3>can't really use Kentucky because he had to bring a

516
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.480
<v Speaker 3>bunch of people in. But they're older, right, And you're

517
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:44.920
<v Speaker 3>seeing this now, you're seeing guys play that fourth year.

518
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.319
<v Speaker 3>You're seeing guys play that fifth year that never happened before.

519
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Derrek Ramsay said, he said, man if I was playing now,

520
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.200
<v Speaker 3>I would try to get that fifth year. I try

521
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.079
<v Speaker 3>to get a medical. I try to get a sixth

522
00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:59.240
<v Speaker 3>year because the money, the money's correct. Me. Beck is

523
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 3>a perfect he's a good quarterback. I don't think he's

524
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:06.559
<v Speaker 3>a he's Chase a Daniels type. You know that you

525
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 3>see going on to the NFL. He's not going to

526
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:10.920
<v Speaker 3>make that kind of money in the NFL, So why

527
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:13.920
<v Speaker 3>not get that extra four million dollars? And you know,

528
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:15.720
<v Speaker 3>and chase your dream that way.

529
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 1>Which tells you just how bad the deal that the

530
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<v Speaker 1>NFL Players Association cut with the league all those years ago.

531
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<v Speaker 1>You know, in some of these contracts you read about

532
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.240
<v Speaker 1>up front, they seem like, you know, incredibly great numbers.

533
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:32.640
<v Speaker 1>But unless there's a signing bonus, you know you've really

534
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:36.680
<v Speaker 1>got a hustle to earn your money. Jeff Pica, second check,

535
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<v Speaker 1>that's right, exactly right, Jeff piicarerol the UK networkers. My

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<v Speaker 1>guess we'll come back and talk about those Wildcats in

537
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<v Speaker 1>a minute. Here on a big blue sider six thirty WLAP.

538
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. We're talking with Jeff Piicaorreyl Color, analyst on

539
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<v Speaker 1>the UK Football Network and also sports director WTVQ. Part

540
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<v Speaker 1>of your daily coverage, of course, is keeping an eye

541
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.079
<v Speaker 1>on the football Wildcats with regard to players coming and

542
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>going and Kentucky. Jeff, this week finally lands the guy

543
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>who figures to be their starting left tackle on offense.

544
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 1>So now you've got maybe one player coming back who

545
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.599
<v Speaker 1>will start, but for the most part, probably four new

546
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:20.039
<v Speaker 1>faces along that offensive front. Now it's January, so you've

547
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>got plenty of time to get to know each other.

548
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>But those guys learning to blend and work together, that's

549
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be so vital obviously in the spring and beyond.

550
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<v Speaker 3>It's a huge, huge kit you know, I put out

551
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:38.200
<v Speaker 3>on social media that this is a game changer for Kentucky.

552
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:45.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, you got some really good players. You've got

553
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:49.960
<v Speaker 3>players who were first and second team in their conference

554
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 3>in the offensive line coming in and I know the

555
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.160
<v Speaker 3>MAC is at the SEC, but you're getting Look, look

556
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:58.160
<v Speaker 3>what happened to the last guy, the left tackle they

557
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:00.279
<v Speaker 3>brought in from the MAC did a pretty good job

558
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 3>sitting there, and then you go out and fill holes.

559
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:09.799
<v Speaker 3>And that's exactly what they did. A lot of people

560
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:11.960
<v Speaker 3>and most of the experts, thought he was going to

561
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:16.200
<v Speaker 3>go to Vanderbilt. His coach Jerry Till's there, His quarterback

562
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.799
<v Speaker 3>Pavia went there, a couple of different players from New

563
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:23.319
<v Speaker 3>Mexico State went to Vanderbilt. Most thought he was going

564
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 3>to follow, and Kentucky got him. I just think it

565
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:31.079
<v Speaker 3>was an out standing moved they've they've retooled. I think

566
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<v Speaker 3>people a month ago, a month and a half ago

567
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.000
<v Speaker 3>or saying run stoops out of town, getting out of here.

568
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:39.200
<v Speaker 3>This team's gonna stink. There's no way there's good. They're

569
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:42.039
<v Speaker 3>gonna win four games. Look, the schedule is not easy,

570
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:45.119
<v Speaker 3>we all know that. But you know what, to be

571
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.480
<v Speaker 3>the best, you got to be the best, and they're

572
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.440
<v Speaker 3>paying a hell of the schedule this year. But they've

573
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:53.680
<v Speaker 3>got now they're they're playing, you know, on an even

574
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 3>on an even playing field. They've they've done a great job.

575
00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:58.839
<v Speaker 3>They I mean, you look at what they lost in

576
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:01.559
<v Speaker 3>the receiver room and everybody's is, oh, my goodness, we

577
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:05.200
<v Speaker 3>don't have any receivers. We have and I say we

578
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 3>the University of Kentucky brought in what is it, fourteen

579
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:11.680
<v Speaker 3>touchdown catches. I think it's one hundred and thirty two

580
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:16.759
<v Speaker 3>receptions and like sixteen hundred yards. That's a lot more

581
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:19.279
<v Speaker 3>than what they had last year. What they brought in,

582
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:22.400
<v Speaker 3>you got one of the better third down running backs

583
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.200
<v Speaker 3>to John Carter style running back that you got from Nebraska.

584
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:28.519
<v Speaker 3>Inside the ten yard line, you give you the ball,

585
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 3>he finds the end zone of Rodriguez Benny Smell type.

586
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.920
<v Speaker 3>That's what you have along with what you've kept at

587
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:38.720
<v Speaker 3>running back. Right again, the only question mark to me

588
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:43.680
<v Speaker 3>is camp Kalzada produced like he did it in Carnet word.

589
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:49.200
<v Speaker 3>If he can, then you know, it's a great boon

590
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 3>this year. But again, that's the quarterback they wanted they

591
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:56.759
<v Speaker 3>think in their offense is what they need and we

592
00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:59.839
<v Speaker 3>shall see. But I think they did a fantastic job.

593
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, and he's a guy unlike Rock Vandergriff, who, actually,

594
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:07.519
<v Speaker 1>as I say about you, has been hitting him out

595
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 1>in a college football game. You know, Vandergriff was a

596
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.279
<v Speaker 1>backup his whole career. Will never know how good he

597
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>might have been with a decent offensive line. But this

598
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:19.359
<v Speaker 1>guy has been in, as you like to say, the

599
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.319
<v Speaker 1>heat of battle. And yeah, and it may remind you

600
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>that incarnate word is where Grant Smith came from. Kentucky's

601
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>fine shortstop for the last couple of years. So there

602
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 1>are athletes everywhere. But it's going to be interesting to

603
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 1>me to see what it's up with Cutter Bowley, because

604
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>this sure looked like he was going to be next up.

605
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.559
<v Speaker 1>I know you've got reservations about him because of his inexperience,

606
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.119
<v Speaker 1>but at least they've got a capable backup. If that

607
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:47.759
<v Speaker 1>is the case.

608
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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, Well, that's exactly what I was going to say. Look,

609
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:54.960
<v Speaker 3>they're not giving cows out of the job. They told him, look,

610
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.519
<v Speaker 3>you are now one and one a with you and

611
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.599
<v Speaker 3>Cutter Bowley, and made the best man win. That's how

612
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 3>you have to do it. I think they went to

613
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Cutter and they said, Cutter, here's what we're doing. I mean,

614
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:08.839
<v Speaker 3>you cannot go into the season with Cutter Bowley and

615
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:11.519
<v Speaker 3>two freshmen who have never put on a Kentucky uniform

616
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:14.160
<v Speaker 3>before as your quarterback. You just couldn't do it. They

617
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.680
<v Speaker 3>had to go get somebody. And so if you're gonna

618
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:19.200
<v Speaker 3>go get somebody, you're going to get somebody that can

619
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.759
<v Speaker 3>compete for the job, not just somebody you know that's

620
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 3>just gonna stand on the sideline and hold a clipboard.

621
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<v Speaker 3>And that's what they did, and again can't follow them

622
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 3>for that. They went out and got who they thought

623
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:32.519
<v Speaker 3>will work in their system. And again you look at

624
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:34.400
<v Speaker 3>the team like old Miss. Old Miss just goes out

625
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.440
<v Speaker 3>and gets the best players they can find. And they

626
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 3>got a lot of money. They've done great in doing that.

627
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<v Speaker 3>And he's done a great job with the portal. Kentucky

628
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:47.960
<v Speaker 3>uses the portal to fill specific holes. Yeah, and it's

629
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<v Speaker 3>it's they've done a decent job. I mean I think

630
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<v Speaker 3>that they've probably the last two quarter acts they brought

631
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 3>in here, I would give them a C grade on those. Yeah,

632
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 3>and maybe this is the A grade. You know, the

633
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:04.160
<v Speaker 3>kids played in the sec before. He's got a lot

634
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 3>of taking a lot of snaps under center. But you

635
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:10.960
<v Speaker 3>can't win big time football unless you have a quarterback.

636
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:15.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Jaydeen Daniels completely turned the wash and again

637
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 3>I know it's professional football, right what Jade Daniels did.

638
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:20.639
<v Speaker 3>That as one of the most shocking games I've ever

639
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.599
<v Speaker 3>seen in the playoffs, as deep as this was, as

640
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 3>what he did single handedly to beat the number one

641
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.480
<v Speaker 3>team in the in the NFC, the Ed destroy Lions.

642
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 1>At Detroit amazing and it's not like he surprised him

643
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:39.239
<v Speaker 1>even doing it all year, you know, you know, oh

644
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>this kid can run. Really, I mean it was I

645
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 1>was stunned and h that to me was the biggest

646
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.760
<v Speaker 1>surprise of the weekend. So just a couple of minutes

647
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:52.199
<v Speaker 1>left with Jeff Corl the UK Sports Network, Mark Stoups

648
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:57.280
<v Speaker 1>has an offensive coordinator in place here here in January,

649
00:34:58.159 --> 00:34:59.800
<v Speaker 1>so now he can work and you know he had

650
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>made your input were the guys they've brought in. So

651
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, should should fans get their hopes up when

652
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.679
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the offense taking a big step forward

653
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>this coming year?

654
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:13.679
<v Speaker 3>I think that it has to. I mean, this team

655
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:15.920
<v Speaker 3>has to be better offensively than it was a year ago.

656
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's a simple, simple mask tells you that

657
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:21.960
<v Speaker 3>because they just they couldn't score last year, they really

658
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 3>were hampered. They didn't the big play was it in

659
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:27.239
<v Speaker 3>their lineup. You look at even with barry On and

660
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.679
<v Speaker 3>Dane that they now they get count plays and I'm

661
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:34.280
<v Speaker 3>talking fifteen to twenty artists, but they didn't get the big,

662
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.280
<v Speaker 3>the big, giant plays that they've gotten the year before.

663
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:39.840
<v Speaker 3>And that's what they got to find. In the offense.

664
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:41.880
<v Speaker 3>They've got some size at receiver. Now you've got some

665
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:44.320
<v Speaker 3>you've got thunder and lightning it running back, and you've

666
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:47.239
<v Speaker 3>got a nice offensive line. Again last year, the quarterback

667
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:48.960
<v Speaker 3>didn't have a lot of times. And then when you

668
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 3>look at the other side, the one thing they had

669
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:53.079
<v Speaker 3>to do on the defense was find some people on

670
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:55.920
<v Speaker 3>the edge. And they went out and they got themselves

671
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 3>some really good edge guys, a couple that have played,

672
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:03.320
<v Speaker 3>couple that haven't played a lot, but they got side. Wait,

673
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:06.480
<v Speaker 3>everybody they got was to forty to fifty to sixty

674
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.000
<v Speaker 3>on the outside. You've got a couple of three hundred

675
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:12.199
<v Speaker 3>pounders in the middle. You got yourself a linebacker. So

676
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.400
<v Speaker 3>they filled some really big holes that they needed on

677
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:18.320
<v Speaker 3>the defensive side, and they're too deep at every position.

678
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:20.320
<v Speaker 3>And to me, that's the biggest key in this league

679
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 3>because it's just it's murderers row week after week.

680
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Final question for you, Oh, before I should have asked you,

681
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:29.800
<v Speaker 1>did you vote for the Sports Figure of the Year?

682
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Who did you take?

683
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:34.079
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm before I asked you on air question? Did

684
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:34.559
<v Speaker 1>you vote?

685
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:36.880
<v Speaker 3>I did?

686
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, good, right, let me answer this? All right? Final

687
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:40.559
<v Speaker 1>question for jeffer Corel.

688
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I think it's easy. You know who I took.

689
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 1>To hang on, let me let me set it up.

690
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Final question for Jeff per Corel. I was talking to

691
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Steve Moss the other day about Kentucky Sports Figure of

692
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.079
<v Speaker 1>the Year, conducted by Mark Story of the Herald Leader.

693
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Talked to Tom Leach about it as well, you voted.

694
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:00.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure I know who you voted for, the

695
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.679
<v Speaker 1>same guy that we all three of us voted. Whoincidentally

696
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:03.079
<v Speaker 1>voted for?

697
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, I think it was what happened in May

698
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:11.960
<v Speaker 3>of this past year was something that was pretty pretty cool,

699
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.679
<v Speaker 3>when Kenny mcpete becoming just what I think it's the

700
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 3>fourth or fifth trainer in the history of horse racing

701
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:21.400
<v Speaker 3>to win the Oaks and the Derby in the same year.

702
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.440
<v Speaker 3>And that's that's pretty outstanding coming from a kid that

703
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 3>went to State Creek High School.

704
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Yep. And you guys are pretty tight.

705
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. We grew up together ninety since we were six

706
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:33.480
<v Speaker 3>years old, and we were in each other's weddings.

707
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, all I'll tell you what I don't know

708
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>about you, but we agreed, Steve and I did about

709
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:43.079
<v Speaker 1>the fact that it was as tough this year as

710
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.639
<v Speaker 1>it's ever been. Don't you think to vote.

711
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Sidney, how do you not have Sydney mcgloughlin and you're

712
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:50.039
<v Speaker 3>in the top, which she did in the Livings. How

713
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:53.400
<v Speaker 3>do you not have Nick Ninjiones who brought this baseball

714
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.880
<v Speaker 3>team out of nowhere all the way to Omah the

715
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:58.599
<v Speaker 3>first time in the history of Kentucky. I mean, it

716
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:01.679
<v Speaker 3>was just it was player player coach after coach. You're like,

717
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:05.880
<v Speaker 3>good lord, uh yeah, I mean you almost Mark almost

718
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 3>has to redo it. Go Okay, we're gonna do a

719
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.320
<v Speaker 3>football one, we're gonna do a basketball one, we're gonna

720
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.280
<v Speaker 3>do a baseball and then we're gonna do all other sports.

721
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:16.000
<v Speaker 3>And still, you know, you look at the girl from Lexington,

722
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:19.480
<v Speaker 3>who's won two gold medals in ten teams. Yeah, you know,

723
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 3>how do you not put her in there?

724
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:21.360
<v Speaker 6>Right?

725
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:22.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean crazy?

726
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Yep, Well you know you can. You can list only

727
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>ten and you one. It's an amazing I just go back,

728
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I save him. I go back and look at who

729
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I left off. I'm like, I only got room for ten.

730
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be fun when this is unveilable. All right,

731
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 1>So unofficially that's four votes for Kenny McPeak from Steve Moss, Me,

732
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:44.079
<v Speaker 1>Jefpicor and Tom Leach show anyhow, Jeff Brow, thank you

733
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.159
<v Speaker 1>so much, and spring football is coming up fast?

734
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:50.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah well yeah zero outside so I can't give.

735
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Your follow him on Twitter or ex Jeff Picicoro, p

736
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I E C O r O. Hour Number two comes

737
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.320
<v Speaker 1>up next here on The Big Going Sider six thirty

738
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<v Speaker 1>n Welcome back to the Big Moe Sight of joining

739
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:51.760
<v Speaker 1>us now is a longtime friend and colleague mister Jack

740
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.519
<v Speaker 1>Gibbons from the UK Radio Network, who will be on

741
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:57.039
<v Speaker 1>him and the Wildcats play down at Vandy. We're going

742
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>to talk about that weird gym down there, Jack, but

743
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:05.239
<v Speaker 1>let's talk first about what has happened most recently a good,

744
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.840
<v Speaker 1>grinded out win over Texas A and M. And it

745
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:12.039
<v Speaker 1>looked like Kentucky just might grind out another win over

746
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Alabama and then things kind of went south toward the end.

747
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:20.320
<v Speaker 1>But what have you noticed about the way the Wildcats

748
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>are playing now in the SECU is Mark Pope talked

749
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 1>about that last night about learning the league and the

750
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:28.840
<v Speaker 1>league is learning about itself because it sod aarn't good.

751
00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:31.760
<v Speaker 1>But do you see the improvement you were hoping you

752
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:33.280
<v Speaker 1>would see in this team?

753
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.199
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, And that's the thing you want over the course

754
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:41.719
<v Speaker 8>of the season. You just want to see improvement, and

755
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:48.119
<v Speaker 8>I think you definitely are seeing that with this team.

756
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:51.119
<v Speaker 8>I mean, yeah, you mentioned these last two games and

757
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:55.320
<v Speaker 8>they were just kind of figure out how to play

758
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:59.000
<v Speaker 8>games for this team. I mean, you win one, lose one,

759
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.440
<v Speaker 8>but the one you lost to our Alabama.

760
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:09.719
<v Speaker 3>It's a really really good basketball team around and a

761
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:14.519
<v Speaker 3>lot of talent probably from top to bottom overall better

762
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:17.320
<v Speaker 3>athletes than we have on this team.

763
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:20.239
<v Speaker 8>And I think you saw that in the last two

764
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:24.599
<v Speaker 8>minutes when they came up with loose balls by using

765
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 8>quickness and ability athletic ability. You saw that in that game.

766
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:37.239
<v Speaker 8>But as far as learning and getting better. Absolutely, this

767
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.679
<v Speaker 8>team is showing improvement every time out.

768
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>You know what impressed me about Alabama and A and

769
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:48.559
<v Speaker 1>M and then by extension Kentucky is that when both

770
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:52.280
<v Speaker 1>teams were in trouble they were trying to weather the storms,

771
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky was throwing at them the runs and the crowd

772
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:59.119
<v Speaker 1>and all that reparata. Crowds have been great. They kept

773
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:03.119
<v Speaker 1>running their stuff what you basketball guys like to say

774
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>they were They kept running their stuff, and they ran

775
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>it well, really efficiently. You didn't see people panic and

776
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:11.679
<v Speaker 1>break off and just try to do incredible things on

777
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 1>their own.

778
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

779
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 1>And you know, and it worked obviously. Uh you know,

780
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 1>A and M came up short, but Kentucky ran its

781
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>stuff and as you said, Alabama down the stretch did

782
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.320
<v Speaker 1>what what it was taught to do, what it was

783
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.079
<v Speaker 1>coached to do. That's why I felt like Jack, those

784
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>games kind of reminded me of of in SA tournament

785
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:31.079
<v Speaker 1>type games.

786
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:31.239
<v Speaker 3>You know.

787
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, experience is an amazing thing.

788
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:35.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

789
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:39.079
<v Speaker 8>And you know you talk about not breaking away from

790
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:44.000
<v Speaker 8>what you want to run, not breaking away. You've been

791
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:48.519
<v Speaker 8>through those situations so often and regardless of how good

792
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:54.800
<v Speaker 8>you are individually, you've learned that if we play as

793
00:43:54.840 --> 00:44:00.360
<v Speaker 8>a team, it usually works out a whole lot better.

794
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:02.639
<v Speaker 8>You don't have guys who.

795
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:09.119
<v Speaker 3>Are five star if you will, coming out of high

796
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.679
<v Speaker 3>school in the lineup, and that five star thinks, Man,

797
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:17.239
<v Speaker 3>I did it all my career so far, so why can't.

798
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:17.679
<v Speaker 7>I do it again?

799
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:19.719
<v Speaker 3>Just take over the game, do what I want to

800
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:20.920
<v Speaker 3>do that and.

801
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.719
<v Speaker 8>Get a bucket. But we've found out over the years

802
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:29.079
<v Speaker 8>that that's not always the best way to play. And

803
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:30.440
<v Speaker 8>this team understands that.

804
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure your ears burn all the time because I'm

805
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:37.079
<v Speaker 1>always quoting you for a number of reasons. But my

806
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 1>favorite so far this this is you, and you and

807
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:41.519
<v Speaker 1>I have talked about this is early in the season,

808
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.519
<v Speaker 1>you talked about how nice it was to see veteran

809
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:48.119
<v Speaker 1>players out on the floor if something was going wrong

810
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:51.599
<v Speaker 1>for Kentucky, figuring things out on their own because of

811
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.400
<v Speaker 1>all the years and years of experience that they have.

812
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:56.880
<v Speaker 1>You can't, in all fairness, you can't expect that of

813
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>true freshmen who would end up looking at the bench

814
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and hoping their coach, you know, direct traffic and as

815
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:07.320
<v Speaker 1>a play clock ran down. But it also refers or

816
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:11.159
<v Speaker 1>goes back to the fact that these guys, these Kentucky

817
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:16.880
<v Speaker 1>players are still learning each other and obviously learning the

818
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:21.000
<v Speaker 1>tendencies of the league. And when we talk about these

819
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:25.400
<v Speaker 1>SEC games, you're talking about teams with more experience than

820
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:29.159
<v Speaker 1>and older players than some of the non conference games.

821
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>And so they've got to figure out a lot of

822
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:35.920
<v Speaker 1>different elements of these games on their own, on the fly.

823
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:39.159
<v Speaker 1>And it's been kind of fun to watch, hasn't it.

824
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:41.840
<v Speaker 3>It really has.

825
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.159
<v Speaker 8>I mean, you know, for guys this age, you don't

826
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:50.719
<v Speaker 8>need to hear it come from your coach every time,

827
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:54.199
<v Speaker 8>down right, And as smart as Mark Pope is, he

828
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:58.800
<v Speaker 8>can't come with He comes with some stuff or ways

829
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:03.159
<v Speaker 8>of putting things that may not have heard before playing

830
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:06.800
<v Speaker 8>with Mark. But you can't tell these guys a whole

831
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.480
<v Speaker 8>lot that they haven't already come across Man, that they

832
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:15.400
<v Speaker 8>haven't already had to deal with. So while this time

833
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 8>of the year and later on in the year you

834
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:26.440
<v Speaker 8>are tired of hearing the coach on every play normally

835
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:31.159
<v Speaker 8>is the situation with a veteran team, Mark chooses his

836
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:36.639
<v Speaker 8>opportunities to make his point, and actually that makes the

837
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:42.400
<v Speaker 8>point he tries to make even speak even louder because

838
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:45.199
<v Speaker 8>he doesn't say something every time, and he does give

839
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.679
<v Speaker 8>the players a freedom to try to work through things,

840
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:50.119
<v Speaker 8>and he will ask the player, what do you think

841
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:53.320
<v Speaker 8>we need to do in this situation you're running it?

842
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:55.360
<v Speaker 8>What do you think will help you or how you

843
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:57.639
<v Speaker 8>can deal with it? So all of that kind of

844
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:00.280
<v Speaker 8>stuff is what we're seeing from Mark, different them what

845
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:03.800
<v Speaker 8>we've seen, but it has worked very well well.

846
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 1>It's a different kind of team than what we've seen,

847
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.719
<v Speaker 1>so that's to be expected. Talking to Jack Gibbons of

848
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:11.199
<v Speaker 1>the UK Radio Network and I kind of teased it

849
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.880
<v Speaker 1>before the last time you're on with me about just

850
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:18.039
<v Speaker 1>the joy in your voice watching these guys go bombs

851
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>away from the three point line taking what you know

852
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>they got to think are good shots. But you know,

853
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:25.719
<v Speaker 1>you like to see shooters shoot. And talk to me

854
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:29.159
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about Jackson Robinson and what you've seen

855
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:31.559
<v Speaker 1>in him of late, and you know he famously and

856
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope talked about it as well, kind of a

857
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.239
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a change in attitude. He quit worrying

858
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:39.280
<v Speaker 1>so much about his future and about what's on his

859
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.639
<v Speaker 1>shoulders and just go out and as they say, play free.

860
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.440
<v Speaker 1>And now the ball's barely slowing down in his hands

861
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:48.639
<v Speaker 1>before he's got it up heading for the rim.

862
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 8>And I know you love that, Yes I do, Gabe,

863
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:55.760
<v Speaker 8>And speaking to your first point, I mean, I'm just

864
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:59.159
<v Speaker 8>glad the network, you know, the folks that Jay and

865
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:05.119
<v Speaker 8>I at the UK allow me to be a fan first, because.

866
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:07.519
<v Speaker 3>Because that's what I am. Man, I'm a fan of

867
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:12.079
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky basketball. And I'm really really pleased that they allow

868
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:15.400
<v Speaker 3>me to. And Tom is so good to work with

869
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.480
<v Speaker 3>that he lets me, he lets me do my thing,

870
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.960
<v Speaker 3>so so that makes it a whole lot better for me. Now,

871
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:28.679
<v Speaker 3>as far as Jackson Robinson is concern, I love the

872
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:34.440
<v Speaker 3>change that he's made. I think, you know, because you

873
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:39.039
<v Speaker 3>talk body language a lot, you talk, you talk.

874
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:39.760
<v Speaker 8>About I think he.

875
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Understands better that it's not all about him, and he

876
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:53.480
<v Speaker 3>understands when he gets down and as the leader of

877
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:56.000
<v Speaker 3>this team, when he gets down and when his body

878
00:48:56.119 --> 00:49:02.320
<v Speaker 3>language gets down and he's disengeeded, it affects the whole team.

879
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:04.000
<v Speaker 3>So he.

880
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Speaker 8>Seems to have a better grasp of that, and he's

881
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:15.119
<v Speaker 8>living up to that even better. But I'll say this,

882
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.440
<v Speaker 8>and I say it adoringly, I say it in a

883
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:23.960
<v Speaker 8>good way. I still wanted more from him in the

884
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:30.039
<v Speaker 8>Alabama game. You saw Mark Sears, who is their leader.

885
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:34.679
<v Speaker 8>You saw him step up and work his way. Didn't

886
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:38.000
<v Speaker 8>you know he wasn't as dominant early, but you saw

887
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:42.360
<v Speaker 8>him step up and work his way into being the

888
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:44.760
<v Speaker 8>man on that Alabama team. And a lot of guys

889
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:49.199
<v Speaker 8>played well. I get it, but they and Mark understand

890
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:52.440
<v Speaker 8>that the team goes as he goes. And when he

891
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:58.519
<v Speaker 8>picked it up, Alabama got a lot better. I Jackson

892
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:03.760
<v Speaker 8>Robinson for stretches might have been small stretches. He started

893
00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:07.440
<v Speaker 8>out great, and then I couldn't find him, and then

894
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:09.840
<v Speaker 8>he made a couple of shots, and then all of a.

895
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Sudden, I can't find him again. He can't afford to

896
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:17.920
<v Speaker 3>go through stretches with the competition we're played to where

897
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.840
<v Speaker 3>you can't find him on the floor. You don't know

898
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:25.400
<v Speaker 3>he's in the game. And I kept saying to Tom,

899
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:29.760
<v Speaker 3>they need a basket from Jackson Robinson, not just for

900
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Jackson Robinson, but for the whole team. So he's getting

901
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:38.480
<v Speaker 3>better and he's learning the sec. But I think the

902
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 3>final stretch is that thought process that we don't win

903
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:50.599
<v Speaker 3>this game if I'm not the man and he's getting close. Man,

904
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:54.079
<v Speaker 3>he's almost there. Early in the season, he went a

905
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:57.199
<v Speaker 3>long stretch where it seemed like he didn't want a

906
00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.639
<v Speaker 3>part of that, he didn't want that responsibility. But he's

907
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:05.360
<v Speaker 3>very close to going over the edge. And when that happened,

908
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:08.960
<v Speaker 3>this team is going to be really, really good.

909
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe it happens the beginning of it, or at

910
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.000
<v Speaker 1>least the next step in Nashville this weekend. We'll talk

911
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.079
<v Speaker 1>about that. On the other side of the break here

912
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:20.559
<v Speaker 1>on the Big Moon Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back.

913
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.719
<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Jack Gibbons, Kentucky All American. Tom Leach

914
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.599
<v Speaker 1>is running mate on UK basketball broadcast. He'll be courtside

915
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 1>at Vandy when the Wildcats take on the Commodores. Although

916
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 1>courtside down there, Jack is kind of weird. You know,

917
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you're either looking up. I don't think back in the

918
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:40.079
<v Speaker 1>day Kwood and Ralph were up at the in the ceiling,

919
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:43.440
<v Speaker 1>but I think you guys are courtside. But what's it

920
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.320
<v Speaker 1>like as a player one time in a year to

921
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:49.119
<v Speaker 1>play in that as Ralph used to call it, gymnasium.

922
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:58.760
<v Speaker 8>It's obviously different game, it's a different setup. But I

923
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:02.639
<v Speaker 8>kind of like playing there really because you're on a

924
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:07.440
<v Speaker 8>stage and all eyes in the building are on you.

925
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.840
<v Speaker 8>It's a whole different setting. But the thing I liked

926
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:16.920
<v Speaker 8>about playing there was because it is set up the

927
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 8>way it is, it somehow made the basket stand out better.

928
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:26.599
<v Speaker 8>I don't know if it's the lights, the way it

929
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:30.880
<v Speaker 8>hits you on that that setting or not. But I

930
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:33.760
<v Speaker 8>used to shoot well, I used to like to play there.

931
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:39.000
<v Speaker 8>It was differenth It took some adjusting, but it was

932
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:42.360
<v Speaker 8>a good place. And of course Vandy used to always

933
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:46.119
<v Speaker 8>and still do, they get fired up when Kentucky comes

934
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:50.159
<v Speaker 8>to town, so that makes it even more special.

935
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Plan.

936
00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, Well your last game there as a senior,

937
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:56.599
<v Speaker 1>you go eight for twelve in a win.

938
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:01.800
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, you know, so I shot the ball fairly

939
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:07.039
<v Speaker 8>well there. We generally speaking, played well at Nashville. But

940
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:09.960
<v Speaker 8>it's gonna be a big game for the Cat, no

941
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 8>question about that.

942
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. It's a not a tough road trip in

943
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:18.519
<v Speaker 1>terms of miles and all. But you can drive to Nashville,

944
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:20.840
<v Speaker 1>as we all know, in about three hours. But you

945
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:26.000
<v Speaker 1>still go the night before for whatever reason, and you travel,

946
00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:28.679
<v Speaker 1>of course with the team, and you've talked before about

947
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:31.599
<v Speaker 1>getting to know these guys, and I got to know

948
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:34.320
<v Speaker 1>them a little bit covering the pro day broadcast with you.

949
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:39.840
<v Speaker 1>But I think Mark Popenestaff did a really great job

950
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:44.079
<v Speaker 1>of cobbling together a team, not just filling their knees athletically,

951
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:48.360
<v Speaker 1>but just pulling kids together who've meshed really well. You

952
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, well they're good kids. Well yeah, But

953
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:55.119
<v Speaker 1>I can tell from your postgame interviews you're really enjoying

954
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:55.960
<v Speaker 1>these guys, aren't you.

955
00:53:57.440 --> 00:53:58.119
<v Speaker 3>I really am.

956
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:03.719
<v Speaker 8>And they're all good interviews. Not that I haven't had

957
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:08.880
<v Speaker 8>other good interviews since I've been doing this, because they're

958
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:13.679
<v Speaker 8>all good interviews. They're all excited about being able to

959
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:16.679
<v Speaker 8>being asked not able, but being asked to come out

960
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:20.760
<v Speaker 8>and be on the postgame show. They look forward to it.

961
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:26.800
<v Speaker 8>I hear things and I get to know them in

962
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:30.519
<v Speaker 8>a way that not everybody gets to know them. So

963
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:35.280
<v Speaker 8>I know what some guys Lamont Butler, for instance, I

964
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:39.159
<v Speaker 8>can ask him a more pointed question where he won't

965
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:42.440
<v Speaker 8>shy away from telling me like it is giving me

966
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:45.159
<v Speaker 8>a good answer, And then I know there's some guys

967
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.239
<v Speaker 8>who are great interviews that you want to put them

968
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.239
<v Speaker 8>in a position where they are relaxed and that they

969
00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:54.559
<v Speaker 8>know that hey, I'm not going to put you on

970
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:57.119
<v Speaker 8>the spot, man. I just want to talk basketball, and

971
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:01.079
<v Speaker 8>you know that's what makes a good interview, and so

972
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:05.719
<v Speaker 8>it is a fun, fun part of my job, and

973
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:08.599
<v Speaker 8>I think the players enjoy it also.

974
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I would hope they know of your not that you're

975
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:14.159
<v Speaker 1>going to lord it over them, but know your background.

976
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Know you played not what you did, and you and

977
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:19.400
<v Speaker 1>your teammates hung a banner, which they want to do.

978
00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:21.960
<v Speaker 1>And if they die, I guarantee you Mark Pope has

979
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.800
<v Speaker 1>let them know a few minutes left with Jack Gibbons.

980
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:28.159
<v Speaker 1>You talked earlier about how much fun you're having as

981
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:32.360
<v Speaker 1>a fan and a broadcaster, And of course I've tracked

982
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:34.800
<v Speaker 1>your career not in a creepy way, but you just

983
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:38.079
<v Speaker 1>keep popping up on TV. You know, when you were

984
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.880
<v Speaker 1>doing SEC games, you were doing Metro Conference, the old

985
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Metro Conference games, NCA tournament games for CBS, then the

986
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Orlando Magic, but you kind of had to play it

987
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:51.960
<v Speaker 1>more down the middle in those games. I don't know

988
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:53.519
<v Speaker 1>about the Magic. I never got to see you do

989
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:56.199
<v Speaker 1>games for them. Were you were you as much a

990
00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:57.920
<v Speaker 1>fan then as you are now? Did you have to

991
00:55:57.960 --> 00:55:59.199
<v Speaker 1>play that one a little straighter?

992
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:00.639
<v Speaker 7>Well?

993
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:02.480
<v Speaker 8>I had to play that. I had to play that

994
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:03.519
<v Speaker 8>one a little straighter.

995
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:04.920
<v Speaker 4>You know.

996
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:09.360
<v Speaker 8>One thing I didn't want to be, and I don't

997
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 8>think I am now. I didn't want to be a homie.

998
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Call the games.

999
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:21.039
<v Speaker 8>And my team at that time, the Orlando Magic, at

1000
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:25.079
<v Speaker 8>this time the Kentucky Wildcats. I didn't want it to

1001
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:28.880
<v Speaker 8>be like every time something went wrong it was the

1002
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:34.440
<v Speaker 8>other team's fault, it was the referees fault. I don't

1003
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.400
<v Speaker 8>want to be that kind of announcer. And and then

1004
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:42.960
<v Speaker 8>in that setting where you know, obviously I was a fan.

1005
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:47.559
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I work with them fifteen sixteen seasons. I

1006
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:53.159
<v Speaker 8>was a fan, but I didn't want to come across

1007
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:56.679
<v Speaker 8>as a homie. I don't mind that so much at

1008
00:56:56.840 --> 00:57:00.639
<v Speaker 8>Kentucky because of my history with the school and I

1009
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:04.280
<v Speaker 8>know the fans, so it's a totally different setting. I

1010
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:06.159
<v Speaker 8>still don't want to be a homie. And I try

1011
00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:10.000
<v Speaker 8>to point out when Kentucky's struggling, yeah, or when they're

1012
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:13.760
<v Speaker 8>not playing quite as well, but when they are playing well,

1013
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:15.000
<v Speaker 8>I really.

1014
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:15.639
<v Speaker 7>Really enjoy it.

1015
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, you're honest. That's the thing. You're honest, and that's

1016
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, Yeah, being a homer is one thing, but

1017
00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:26.039
<v Speaker 1>just telling telling the story through the prism of the

1018
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:28.599
<v Speaker 1>home team is different, which is what I try to do.

1019
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't play there, at least not yet. Uh.

1020
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:34.559
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't win any rings there, which you did.

1021
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:38.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's just it's fun for me to listen and

1022
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I can sync up my TV with the radio and

1023
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:44.079
<v Speaker 1>listen to you in time. Nothing against the TV guys,

1024
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>but I do learn from you, and that's always been

1025
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:51.840
<v Speaker 1>my benchmark for any analysts. Are you teaching me anything

1026
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:55.719
<v Speaker 1>about basketball? Could just be the smallest thing, and you've

1027
00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:57.719
<v Speaker 1>done that in such a great way with these guys

1028
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:00.719
<v Speaker 1>because you're learning these guys just the way they're learning

1029
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the Kentucky game.

1030
00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:08.239
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and you know you you mentioned with the players

1031
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:13.320
<v Speaker 8>then and whether or not they respect me and some

1032
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:18.159
<v Speaker 8>of the things that I've been blessed to have accomplished.

1033
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:21.599
<v Speaker 8>But the thing that I like more more than anything,

1034
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:24.199
<v Speaker 8>I mean, most of all, I like the fact that

1035
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:33.159
<v Speaker 8>they have somehow learned what plan at Kentucky means not

1036
00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:37.039
<v Speaker 8>you know, as the as the university is, as the

1037
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:38.960
<v Speaker 8>basketball program.

1038
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:40.880
<v Speaker 7>They have learned that.

1039
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:43.760
<v Speaker 8>I don't care quite as much if they know anything

1040
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:44.239
<v Speaker 8>about me.

1041
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:45.880
<v Speaker 7>They do, but.

1042
00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:50.760
<v Speaker 8>I like that they know they somehow, and I don't

1043
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:54.559
<v Speaker 8>know how, but they well, I do know Mark has

1044
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:57.000
<v Speaker 8>done a great job of conveying that to the guys.

1045
00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:01.719
<v Speaker 8>But I like that they love and respect the opportunities

1046
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:05.559
<v Speaker 8>that are presented to them by playing for the University

1047
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:09.400
<v Speaker 8>of Kentucky. That's the thing that I like when I

1048
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:13.800
<v Speaker 8>interview these guys. When I talk to these guys, they

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<v Speaker 8>speak highly of this opportunity and of the university and

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00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:22.079
<v Speaker 8>of the fans. And that is the thing I like

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<v Speaker 8>most about what these guys do.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Gibbons follow him on Twitter at Goose Gibvens, and

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00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:30.239
<v Speaker 1>of course listen to him as he and Tom call

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00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the action. Kentucky and Vandy coming up this Saturday. Thank you, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will talk to you down the road. Have

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<v Speaker 1>a great and safe trip.

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<v Speaker 8>As always, Thanksgate for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a two thirty start at Vandy down in Memorial Gymnasiums,

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<v Speaker 1>so that means our coverage begins here on six thirty

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<v Speaker 1>WLAP at noon, Network coverage at one o'clock and then

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<v Speaker 1>tip off at two thirty with Tom and Jack. Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Roberts next on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider joining us down our celebrity Hi Line,

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01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:03.320
<v Speaker 1>long time friend of the show, and uh a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>writer reporter Ben Roberts who covers the basketball Wildcats among

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01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:10.800
<v Speaker 1>other things, for The Herold Leader. And uh, you covered

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<v Speaker 1>a game that I don't know, Ben, if it was

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01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:15.920
<v Speaker 1>NCAA tournament quality had a little bit of a feel

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Maybe I was projecting UK Alabama a little

1070
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:23.039
<v Speaker 1>bit because these teams will make the tournament. But it

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01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:24.599
<v Speaker 1>was played at a high level, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was, I mean, uh, you know, it wasn't.

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01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:31.760
<v Speaker 7>As a as a fan of basketball in general, I

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01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:33.960
<v Speaker 7>was hoping for something a little closer to the Florida game,

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01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:37.320
<v Speaker 7>and it was, I guess close to that. But but

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<v Speaker 7>the you know, the officiating, not that it was bad,

1077
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:42.000
<v Speaker 7>but there was a lot of it. There were a

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01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:43.480
<v Speaker 7>lot of fouls and a lot of free throws that

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01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:45.960
<v Speaker 7>kind of disrupted the flow of the game. And whenever

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01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:49.559
<v Speaker 7>you get two teams out there like that with too

1081
01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:52.960
<v Speaker 7>such great offense, as you you, uh, it's just a viewer,

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01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:55.239
<v Speaker 7>you hope that they just let them let them go

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01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:58.000
<v Speaker 7>loose and and uh and and run back and forth

1084
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:00.920
<v Speaker 7>and that you know, for that stretch in the first half,

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01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:04.239
<v Speaker 7>Kentucky went up seven to two, and then Alabama went

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01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:06.519
<v Speaker 7>on a huge run and then Kentucky kind of went

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01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:08.320
<v Speaker 7>on their own run. I mean that was that was

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<v Speaker 7>just some fun, fun basketball, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Pope pointed out booths in the media room

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01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and then again on the radio with Tom that Nelson,

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01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:20.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, bombs in a couple of threes right off

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01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the bat, which was not his game. Yeah, so they

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01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:26.679
<v Speaker 1>had to be on a Kentucky bench thinking, ohmi, because well,

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01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.800
<v Speaker 1>that tournament came rushing back to me. Nelson was such

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<v Speaker 1>a key last year helping Alabama get to the Final four.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a lot happening on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And I mean people forget, probably, but I talked

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01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:43.280
<v Speaker 7>to Grant Helton the NBA Combine a couple of years

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01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:45.159
<v Speaker 7>ago when he was when he was kind of the

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01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:48.559
<v Speaker 7>hot mid major recruit, and he was he was kind

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01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:50.679
<v Speaker 7>of built as what Delton connect turned out to be

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01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:54.320
<v Speaker 7>a Tennessee When when Alabama got him, people might forget,

1103
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:56.679
<v Speaker 7>but that was like that was the huge deal in

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01:01:56.760 --> 01:02:00.360
<v Speaker 7>the transfer portal at the time, especially with know who

1105
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:04.599
<v Speaker 7>they already had on that squad and we didn't you know,

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01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:07.800
<v Speaker 7>he just whereas Connect just kind of came to Tennessee.

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01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:10.840
<v Speaker 7>It just absolutely took off from the beginning. Nelson. You know,

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01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:13.119
<v Speaker 7>he showed flashes here and there if you watched Bama

1109
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:16.880
<v Speaker 7>last season, but never really looks super comfortable. And then

1110
01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:19.800
<v Speaker 7>you're right, I mean once the postseason came, that's when

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01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:23.920
<v Speaker 7>it felt like he really took off. And obviously he

1112
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:26.760
<v Speaker 7>had one of the stipe that game Saturday in a row.

1113
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, let's talk a little bit about how that

1114
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:31.840
<v Speaker 1>broke down. And of course the first thing you go

1115
01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:35.599
<v Speaker 1>to is free throw shooting. And the Cats put the

1116
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:37.719
<v Speaker 1>tide on the line way too much, as we know,

1117
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and according to the Ken Palm numbers and the losses

1118
01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky has suffered in the league, twenty five percent of

1119
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the opponent's points coming at the line. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was really fascinating last night on his show when Pope

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01:02:49.719 --> 01:02:52.840
<v Speaker 1>talked about how and you know, with him, when it

1122
01:02:52.920 --> 01:02:55.920
<v Speaker 1>comes to stats and data as they like to call it,

1123
01:02:56.360 --> 01:02:58.719
<v Speaker 1>they will do the deepest of dives and they're trying

1124
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:01.519
<v Speaker 1>to figure out why this is happening and how to

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01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:04.599
<v Speaker 1>avoid it. Uh, you know, I don't know if if

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01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:07.239
<v Speaker 1>they can, but if they can figure out any way

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01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:10.199
<v Speaker 1>to reduce that. That's gonna move them up, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you think so. And I mean he's right that

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01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:16.880
<v Speaker 7>if you look back at their earlier games, you know

1130
01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:20.360
<v Speaker 7>that the Duke game is won, even even the Clemson game,

1131
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:25.920
<v Speaker 7>really the Godzaga game Louisville, they didn't. They didn't foul

1132
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.239
<v Speaker 7>at a high rate some of those bigger games they

1133
01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:30.800
<v Speaker 7>won earlier in the season. And then against the against

1134
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:32.800
<v Speaker 7>the mid major opponents they played, there were a couple

1135
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:36.360
<v Speaker 7>where they just they hardly found at all. But yeah,

1136
01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:39.679
<v Speaker 7>and in these these last three losses, that's been a huge,

1137
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:42.480
<v Speaker 7>huge problem. I mean, it was it was bad Saturday

1138
01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:46.639
<v Speaker 7>Georgia was was probably the worst of the season. But yeah,

1139
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:50.039
<v Speaker 7>I mean, and you talk to the guys after. I mean,

1140
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:54.159
<v Speaker 7>you know, Popes, we know how he's talked about the officials.

1141
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:57.199
<v Speaker 7>He's not gonna say anything that's gonna get him a

1142
01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:00.480
<v Speaker 7>fine or anything like that. But he talked to the

1143
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:02.719
<v Speaker 7>guys after and they were pretty frustrated because they felt

1144
01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:04.920
<v Speaker 7>like they were playing good defense and it felt like

1145
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:07.599
<v Speaker 7>they were playing kind of the style they'd been playing

1146
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:09.719
<v Speaker 7>for most of the season. And then when they got

1147
01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:12.800
<v Speaker 7>here in the SEC play some some different stuff starts

1148
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:15.480
<v Speaker 7>to get called. But at the same time, like you know,

1149
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:17.639
<v Speaker 7>you're not that they weren't going. It's really good coaches

1150
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:20.280
<v Speaker 7>at the beginning. But but every every coach that you

1151
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:23.239
<v Speaker 7>see in league play is it's going to be pretty

1152
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:26.800
<v Speaker 7>close to a masterclass on on preparation and going at you.

1153
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.119
<v Speaker 7>And you know, these guys, especially those who have been

1154
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:33.280
<v Speaker 7>in the league, know how to attack UH teams that

1155
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:35.599
<v Speaker 7>to get to the line. And I think you're going

1156
01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:37.880
<v Speaker 7>to see more of that. So you know, Nato, it's

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01:04:37.960 --> 01:04:40.000
<v Speaker 7>called Saturday a little bit of a chess match, and

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01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:43.039
<v Speaker 7>I think that's going to be the same deal for

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01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:45.519
<v Speaker 7>the rest of the season. I mean and and and

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01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:47.639
<v Speaker 7>Pope and his staff and then those players are going

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01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:49.679
<v Speaker 7>to have to try to figure out, Okay, how do

1162
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:53.519
<v Speaker 7>we defend as he says, uh guard legal, defend legal,

1163
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:57.360
<v Speaker 7>and and and make sure you don't even put them

1164
01:04:57.440 --> 01:04:59.880
<v Speaker 7>in a in a in a in a situation where

1165
01:04:59.920 --> 01:05:01.760
<v Speaker 7>they can call a foul. Just don't just take it

1166
01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:02.920
<v Speaker 7>out of the question completely.

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01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought Amar Williams did a better job Saturday of

1168
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:09.840
<v Speaker 1>avoiding fouls. He still had some, but it was interesting

1169
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:12.719
<v Speaker 1>going in where Polpe talked about what Amari is figuring

1170
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:15.599
<v Speaker 1>out now, and I'm paraphrasing what he can get away

1171
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:18.599
<v Speaker 1>with things he couldn't do a Drexel because he was

1172
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the biggest, baddest guy on the floor, and according to Poulpe,

1173
01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:26.800
<v Speaker 1>he would be called four fouls more frequently, uh, you know,

1174
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:29.199
<v Speaker 1>than than maybe some other people. But now in the league,

1175
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.199
<v Speaker 1>at least in the paint, you can be more physical,

1176
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:35.119
<v Speaker 1>and he's learning how to do that. You know what

1177
01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:36.639
<v Speaker 1>you can do and what you can't do, and I

1178
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:37.840
<v Speaker 1>think that's going to be vital.

1179
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:39.360
<v Speaker 3>It is.

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01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:42.960
<v Speaker 7>I mean, as Amari is a smart player, and he's

1181
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.360
<v Speaker 7>obviously an emotional player, and he really gets into the

1182
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:47.639
<v Speaker 7>flow of the game. So you don't want to get

1183
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.440
<v Speaker 7>you know, too crazy down there. But yeah, I mean

1184
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:52.760
<v Speaker 7>it's it's a it's a fine line, but it's one

1185
01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:55.199
<v Speaker 7>that that he's clearly learning. And you know, it's one

1186
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:58.280
<v Speaker 7>of those deals of anybody who's watched STC basketball. I know,

1187
01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:00.719
<v Speaker 7>a dryves Kentucky fans nuts win and when the bigger

1188
01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:02.480
<v Speaker 7>players on the other team do stuff like that and

1189
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:04.760
<v Speaker 7>get away with the book Kentucky centers and also gond

1190
01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:09.000
<v Speaker 7>of Way with us right and uh and and Ami Yeah,

1191
01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:11.440
<v Speaker 7>I think it's making strides there. And he's so skilled

1192
01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:13.960
<v Speaker 7>in so many areas of the game, and he has

1193
01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:17.400
<v Speaker 7>that link too defensively that he can if he can

1194
01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:21.079
<v Speaker 7>just learn to use his body a little more in

1195
01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:23.239
<v Speaker 7>the way that the games in the SEC are going

1196
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:26.400
<v Speaker 7>to be officiated and added to that link in that

1197
01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:30.480
<v Speaker 7>lateral movement, you know, it's obviously gonna going to pay

1198
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:31.239
<v Speaker 7>dividends for him.

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01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to Doug Hampton, who is, as you know,

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01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:37.519
<v Speaker 1>the timeout coordinator at Kentucky Games and John is a

1201
01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:41.239
<v Speaker 1>is a former D one referee, UH and his sons

1202
01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:44.039
<v Speaker 1>are both D one referees. And I asked him about

1203
01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:47.239
<v Speaker 1>contact here, contact there. And here's a difference, you reminded

1204
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:50.159
<v Speaker 1>me out on the court, like say, in the backcourt,

1205
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:52.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to restrict the move, I'm guarding you

1206
01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and I've got my hands on you and you're trying

1207
01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:57.599
<v Speaker 1>to go left and I'm trying to stop you with

1208
01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:01.559
<v Speaker 1>my hand, that's a foul restriction of man. Contact in

1209
01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:03.519
<v Speaker 1>the paint is entirely different.

1210
01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:04.519
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

1211
01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:06.679
<v Speaker 1>And and you know they're gonna let one go, but

1212
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:08.920
<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna let the other go. And I'm okay

1213
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:09.800
<v Speaker 1>with that. You know what I mean.

1214
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:13.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, as long as they're consistent, I don't think it's

1215
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:16.280
<v Speaker 7>a problem. And Pope said even last night with Tom

1216
01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:19.760
<v Speaker 7>on the on his weekly radio show, that when they've

1217
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:23.000
<v Speaker 7>done this deep dive, is he said, into the officiating

1218
01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:26.079
<v Speaker 7>and trying to figure out how how calls are being

1219
01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:29.079
<v Speaker 7>made and how they can you know, deal with that

1220
01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:32.199
<v Speaker 7>moving forward. I mean maybe this was being nice and

1221
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:34.079
<v Speaker 7>again not wanting to get a fine, but he said

1222
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:37.679
<v Speaker 7>they found a lot of consistency, that they found what

1223
01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:40.039
<v Speaker 7>and he wouldn't say exactly what. He didn't want to

1224
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:43.000
<v Speaker 7>give he said, he said he's sure Vanderbilt was watching

1225
01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:44.960
<v Speaker 7>and didn't want to give him any tips on what

1226
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:47.159
<v Speaker 7>they would be doing. But he said when he looked

1227
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:49.559
<v Speaker 7>at all that he found a lot of consistency, and

1228
01:07:49.639 --> 01:07:52.639
<v Speaker 7>then those could be teaching moments where they could maybe

1229
01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:54.880
<v Speaker 7>get everybody on the same page and on the right

1230
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:57.480
<v Speaker 7>page moving forward. And yeah, I mean, as long as

1231
01:07:57.559 --> 01:07:59.760
<v Speaker 7>it's consistent, that's all you want. I mean, if you

1232
01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:01.360
<v Speaker 7>know what's going to be called and what's not going

1233
01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:04.519
<v Speaker 7>to be called, then you just go play basketball and

1234
01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:05.960
<v Speaker 7>you take it from there.

1235
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:08.639
<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Ben Roberts. He is the beat writer

1236
01:08:08.719 --> 01:08:12.679
<v Speaker 1>for The Hair Leader covers the basketball Cats, and I

1237
01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:17.119
<v Speaker 1>think that what we've learned is that throughout the season

1238
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:21.560
<v Speaker 1>is that the SEC is as good as advertised in general.

1239
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:26.680
<v Speaker 1>But several of the teams that had everybody so excited

1240
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:31.359
<v Speaker 1>with their one lost records pre conference, now, well some

1241
01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:33.520
<v Speaker 1>of that are a lot of that was scheduling, but

1242
01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:37.159
<v Speaker 1>we knew they beat each other up anyway, right, Yeah.

1243
01:08:37.079 --> 01:08:40.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean I think even going in people wondered,

1244
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:43.319
<v Speaker 7>Like in Oklahoma, for instance, people wondered, you know, kind

1245
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:47.239
<v Speaker 7>of how legit that was, just because of the scheduling aspect.

1246
01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:50.920
<v Speaker 7>I mean, Missouri obviously beat Kansas, but I think that's

1247
01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:52.840
<v Speaker 7>been a big surprise for people, especially that when at

1248
01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:56.079
<v Speaker 7>Florida was who that was. That was a really good

1249
01:08:56.119 --> 01:08:59.039
<v Speaker 7>one on there in May. But yeah, I mean up

1250
01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:02.000
<v Speaker 7>and down the line. You know, Texas was ranked in

1251
01:09:02.039 --> 01:09:06.880
<v Speaker 7>the preseason. They're struggling. Arkansas obviously is the one that

1252
01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:08.560
<v Speaker 7>stands out, but I think people had a lot of

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01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:11.239
<v Speaker 7>questions about them even in the preseason, especially people around

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01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:13.720
<v Speaker 7>here who had seen who had seen rosters put together

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01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:16.119
<v Speaker 7>like that and then maybe maybe not tanned out.

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01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:16.640
<v Speaker 3>All that great.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, it's it's you know we're only well, we're

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01:09:21.039 --> 01:09:22.920
<v Speaker 7>not even a third of the way through the conference.

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01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.560
<v Speaker 7>Yet there's already been so many great games and so

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01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:28.680
<v Speaker 7>many surprises, and you know, I can't wait to see

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01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:30.039
<v Speaker 7>what's what comes next.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Ben Roberts. We'll come back and talk

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01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:34.760
<v Speaker 1>more basketball with a Hero Leader beat writer in just

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01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:36.760
<v Speaker 1>a minute here on the big MoveOn Sider six point

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01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:39.319
<v Speaker 1>thirty w LA. Welcome back. We're talking with Ben Roberts.

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01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:42.600
<v Speaker 1>He covers the basketball Cats among other things for the

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01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Herald Leader, and we talked about the SEC prior to

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01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:48.479
<v Speaker 1>the break. I don't want to get into how fans

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01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:52.039
<v Speaker 1>are perceiving John Caliperry. We could talk about that all

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01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:55.000
<v Speaker 1>day long and all night long, either UK fans or

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01:09:55.119 --> 01:09:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas fans. But just the fact that they're winless in

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01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:01.199
<v Speaker 1>the conference, Ben, you got to be amazed by that

1273
01:10:01.399 --> 01:10:04.600
<v Speaker 1>as m I because they've got talent, but I don't

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01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:07.399
<v Speaker 1>know what's going wrong, but it was that to me

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01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:08.840
<v Speaker 1>is the biggest surprise in the league.

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01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:15.760
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. I mean, you know, that roster going in, which

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01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:18.319
<v Speaker 7>which would have been very close to what Kentucky's roster

1278
01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:22.920
<v Speaker 7>would have been this season had he stayed. You know,

1279
01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:27.840
<v Speaker 7>there's a lot of really good individual pieces. But and

1280
01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:30.600
<v Speaker 7>this was a problem toward the end of his his

1281
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:35.640
<v Speaker 7>tenure here obviously, with those pieces didn't always fit together.

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01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:38.439
<v Speaker 7>And I think this even before the season started, I

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01:10:38.479 --> 01:10:40.840
<v Speaker 7>thought this was the best example of that. I mean,

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01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:43.560
<v Speaker 7>you put you put a guy like a Due on

1285
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:47.159
<v Speaker 7>some other teams, and obviously he's having a terrific season. Yeah,

1286
01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:50.079
<v Speaker 7>he's he's a he could also be a great complimentary

1287
01:10:50.119 --> 01:10:52.760
<v Speaker 7>piece on a on a Final four team, And you

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01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:55.359
<v Speaker 7>could say that about a whole lot of people on

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01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:58.399
<v Speaker 7>that roster. But you piece them all together and it

1290
01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:01.960
<v Speaker 7>just doesn't fit. And and a lot of that is

1291
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:08.319
<v Speaker 7>outside shooting that they struggled with consistency and otherwise. But yeah,

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01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:10.840
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I I guess I'm more I'm a little

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01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:15.039
<v Speaker 7>more surprised, like Nellie Davis hasn't taken off, but he's

1294
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:20.000
<v Speaker 7>making a huge jump in competition from where he was

1295
01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:22.359
<v Speaker 7>to to the SEC and and the and the type

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01:11:22.359 --> 01:11:25.119
<v Speaker 7>of schedule Arkansas is going to be playing. A do

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01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:27.439
<v Speaker 7>I'm a little surprised he hasn't he hasn't done a

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01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:30.079
<v Speaker 7>little bit better. So I guess I'm more surprised by

1299
01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:34.279
<v Speaker 7>some of the individual pieces that haven't performed. Uh but

1300
01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:37.840
<v Speaker 7>and yeah, I mean, oh, win five is surprising. But

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01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:41.720
<v Speaker 7>I in my my preseason list at Arkansas a lot

1302
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.960
<v Speaker 7>farther down the list than I think they were ranked

1303
01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:48.479
<v Speaker 7>in the in the SEC preseason order to finish, just

1304
01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:51.079
<v Speaker 7>because I didn't. I didn't really fill this roster. And

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01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:55.000
<v Speaker 7>I thought cal a lot of the mistakes he made here,

1306
01:11:55.239 --> 01:11:59.800
<v Speaker 7>both in personnel and structure and everything else, he basically

1307
01:11:59.880 --> 01:12:02.520
<v Speaker 7>just picked up shopping and took him down to Fayetteville

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01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:06.840
<v Speaker 7>and did the exact same thing with I think, not

1309
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:11.520
<v Speaker 7>necessarily lesser players, but but you know, a group that

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01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:13.520
<v Speaker 7>doesn't make as much sense together some of some of

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01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:14.319
<v Speaker 7>his previous ones.

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01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:17.119
<v Speaker 1>No, and I'll move on from Arkansas at moment. But

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01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:19.560
<v Speaker 1>we discussed on the State Wide Show last night Aaron

1314
01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Gershawan and Billy Rutledge, and I the response that Cali

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01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Perry is going to get and you know there's going

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01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:30.039
<v Speaker 1>to be booze. But I find it interesting that there

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01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:32.079
<v Speaker 1>are fans who can't wait to boo him, and yet

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01:12:32.119 --> 01:12:35.159
<v Speaker 1>they wanted him gone, you know, so you might think

1319
01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that they might cheer him thanks for leaving. We got

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01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:39.720
<v Speaker 1>the guy we want, But that ain't the way it works,

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01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:39.960
<v Speaker 1>is it.

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01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:43.439
<v Speaker 7>No, No, it's it's not the way it works. And yeah,

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01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:46.039
<v Speaker 7>I'll be interested to see what the fanters wants is.

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01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:49.079
<v Speaker 7>You know, I also think it's different depending on the situation.

1325
01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:52.880
<v Speaker 7>So you know, we're looking back in October. If you

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01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:56.680
<v Speaker 7>say that John Caliperry is what six and one or

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01:12:56.760 --> 01:13:01.119
<v Speaker 7>something coming into Upperna and Pope and Kentucky struggling, and

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01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:02.720
<v Speaker 7>then I think he gets a whole I think he

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01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:04.199
<v Speaker 7>gets booed out of the building.

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01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:07.399
<v Speaker 7>Now you might get the people to put him and

1332
01:13:07.479 --> 01:13:10.600
<v Speaker 7>sorry for him, especially if Kentucky wins at Vandy, and

1333
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:13.800
<v Speaker 7>you know, especially if they win in Tennessee next week.

1334
01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:16.520
<v Speaker 7>If Kentucky comes in here, you know, still ranked in

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01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:20.479
<v Speaker 7>the top ten, and Arkansas is you know, on pace

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01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:24.039
<v Speaker 7>to not even make the tournament. Uh, maybe maybe he

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01:13:24.119 --> 01:13:27.119
<v Speaker 7>gets uh you know, some some courtesy cheers or some

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01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:28.479
<v Speaker 7>courtesy silent.

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01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:34.199
<v Speaker 1>I like that courtesy cheers and courtesy silence. Auburn is

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01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:37.319
<v Speaker 1>the real deal. We know that, and and is still

1341
01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:40.720
<v Speaker 1>thriving with that the big guy in the middle.

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01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:41.319
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1343
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:44.079
<v Speaker 1>So that's the team. And you know I ran into

1344
01:13:44.119 --> 01:13:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Dick Wise up in New York. He might have talked

1345
01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:48.920
<v Speaker 1>to him as well. Kentucky played in Madison Square Garden.

1346
01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:51.560
<v Speaker 1>He thinks if he picked right now, he'd picked Auburn

1347
01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:54.199
<v Speaker 1>to win the national title. Speaks well for the SEC

1348
01:13:54.399 --> 01:13:56.119
<v Speaker 1>is going to make it tough on the Wildcats. But

1349
01:13:57.039 --> 01:13:58.760
<v Speaker 1>do you share that kind of enthusiasm.

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01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:02.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, obviously Duke has the upside, and I

1351
01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:04.960
<v Speaker 7>don't think we're gonna get a great sense for them

1352
01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:08.279
<v Speaker 7>just because the ACC is so relatively weak this season.

1353
01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:10.920
<v Speaker 7>I mean Alabama. You know, there's any number of teams

1354
01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:13.560
<v Speaker 7>in the SEC that you could say would be in

1355
01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:17.319
<v Speaker 7>that discussion, but yeah, Auburn, and I talked to I

1356
01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:20.760
<v Speaker 7>talked to a D one coach a few weeks ago

1357
01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:23.800
<v Speaker 7>who had seen them in person and said that he

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01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:26.359
<v Speaker 7>thought it was it was the best team heats seen

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01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:30.560
<v Speaker 7>in ten years, Like not just just best period, best

1360
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:33.319
<v Speaker 7>team Heat seen in ten years, which is really saying something,

1361
01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:36.439
<v Speaker 7>just saying that, you know, it's that typical Bruce Pearl

1362
01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:39.680
<v Speaker 7>team with the intensity they play with and the discipline

1363
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:43.239
<v Speaker 7>they play with, but just the pieces are are even

1364
01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:45.520
<v Speaker 7>so much better than he usually has. That he usually

1365
01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:47.600
<v Speaker 7>has a couple of guys who could do some stuff right,

1366
01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:51.239
<v Speaker 7>some specific things, and now he's got four or five, uh,

1367
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:54.359
<v Speaker 7>and then they're just so deep. Yeah, and even when

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01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:58.359
<v Speaker 7>Jedi Broom is sidelined and and this is all obviously

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01:14:58.479 --> 01:15:01.159
<v Speaker 7>with assuming that he comes back and it's somewhat close

1370
01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:04.479
<v Speaker 7>one hundred percent healthy, because yeah, they've they've won without him.

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01:15:04.479 --> 01:15:06.520
<v Speaker 7>But he is such a I mean he was he

1372
01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:08.920
<v Speaker 7>was a national player of your Throat Runner before this injury,

1373
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:11.279
<v Speaker 7>so that speaks to how big a deal he is.

1374
01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:14.800
<v Speaker 7>But but Chad Baker, Massari and Denver Jones and Cheney Johnson,

1375
01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:18.039
<v Speaker 7>Todd pt Ford, Miles, Kelly, Dila Cardla, I mean, just

1376
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:22.119
<v Speaker 7>go down the list. They've got so many really really

1377
01:15:22.159 --> 01:15:26.720
<v Speaker 7>good players that that know their roles, that that that

1378
01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:31.319
<v Speaker 7>play perfectly in Bruce Pearl's system. So yeah, they're they're

1379
01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:33.760
<v Speaker 7>going to be an absolute handful for everybody, even in

1380
01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:34.479
<v Speaker 7>this tough league.

1381
01:15:34.840 --> 01:15:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Pope and as players have both talked about league play

1382
01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:41.239
<v Speaker 1>and learning to play within the SEC, but I think

1383
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:43.880
<v Speaker 1>it was Andrew Carr who brought up the fact that

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01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:47.119
<v Speaker 1>not only are they learning to play the league, they're

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01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:50.239
<v Speaker 1>learning what it's like to play with that Kentucky brand

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01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:54.199
<v Speaker 1>across their chest, you know, and they are now one

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01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:57.000
<v Speaker 1>of the biggest targets in America and clearly the biggest

1388
01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:00.439
<v Speaker 1>target in the Southeastern Conference. And you don't learn that overnight,

1389
01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:00.760
<v Speaker 1>do you.

1390
01:16:02.279 --> 01:16:04.640
<v Speaker 7>No, you don't. I mean even when you're Kentucky and

1391
01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:07.800
<v Speaker 7>you're what are they the number five? I think as

1392
01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:10.399
<v Speaker 7>far as the AP rankings in the SEC the number

1393
01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:14.600
<v Speaker 7>number nine nationally. But in the SEC. So even when

1394
01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:16.520
<v Speaker 7>you let's say, let's say they're the fifth best team

1395
01:16:16.520 --> 01:16:20.439
<v Speaker 7>in the SEC, just for conversation's sake, Uh, there's still

1396
01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:23.439
<v Speaker 7>the number one team on everybody's radar when they come

1397
01:16:23.479 --> 01:16:26.039
<v Speaker 7>into their gym. And that especially goes for the fans.

1398
01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:28.720
<v Speaker 7>Maybe it doesn't go for the players, maybe the maybe

1399
01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:31.640
<v Speaker 7>the opposing players are trying to you know, kind of

1400
01:16:31.720 --> 01:16:34.640
<v Speaker 7>keep that even keel, But Uh, for the fans, there's

1401
01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:36.760
<v Speaker 7>no doubt about it. When they walk into Memorial Gym

1402
01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:39.640
<v Speaker 7>or Thompson Bowling or go down to Ole mess here

1403
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:42.000
<v Speaker 7>in a couple of weeks. Uh, that's the game that

1404
01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:45.159
<v Speaker 7>that you know, the students make sure that they get

1405
01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:48.159
<v Speaker 7>the ticket for Yuh that the season ticket holders that

1406
01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:51.000
<v Speaker 7>might you know get we we've seen that obviously you've

1407
01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:56.439
<v Speaker 7>tuned into a Mississippi, Uh, you know, Auburn game. Uh

1408
01:16:57.079 --> 01:17:00.039
<v Speaker 7>in January, you're gonna see some empty seats, but you

1409
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:03.000
<v Speaker 7>don't see if the seats when Kentucky is the visiting team.

1410
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:05.560
<v Speaker 7>And that's always going to be true, and that's true

1411
01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:08.119
<v Speaker 7>this season. And yeah, I mean this is you know,

1412
01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:11.600
<v Speaker 7>we've said it all year, but I think it's still

1413
01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:14.760
<v Speaker 7>worth reiterating that none of these guys have ever been

1414
01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:18.279
<v Speaker 7>through that with Kentucky on your jersey, and that's a

1415
01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:21.960
<v Speaker 7>big difference than playing for BYU or Wake Forest or

1416
01:17:22.520 --> 01:17:24.159
<v Speaker 7>some of these other schools and going into these places.

1417
01:17:24.159 --> 01:17:26.720
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. Just a minute or two left.

1418
01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:30.439
<v Speaker 1>Final question, you mentioned Thompson bowling. What Tennessee I think

1419
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:33.880
<v Speaker 1>has been one of the real surprises when it comes

1420
01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to a couple of losses. You just got to scratch

1421
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:37.439
<v Speaker 1>your head over right.

1422
01:17:38.760 --> 01:17:42.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. I mean, obviously not a surprise that they lost

1423
01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:46.760
<v Speaker 7>the Florida game, but the way that happens currently not expected,

1424
01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:50.880
<v Speaker 7>especially with the way they've been playing such and continue

1425
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:54.640
<v Speaker 7>to play really really good defense. I mean, it only

1426
01:17:54.680 --> 01:17:57.000
<v Speaker 7>gave up seventy three, but they got absolutely run out

1427
01:17:57.000 --> 01:17:59.359
<v Speaker 7>of the gym, and then you know, the Vanderbilt game.

1428
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:02.720
<v Speaker 7>I just think that's life in the SEC this season.

1429
01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:04.880
<v Speaker 7>I mean, Byington has done a great job. He's playing,

1430
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:07.760
<v Speaker 7>he's got a he's got a fun style, fun offense.

1431
01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:10.720
<v Speaker 7>I think that seventy six points he put on them

1432
01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:14.359
<v Speaker 7>was the the highest the Tennessee has given up all season.

1433
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:17.319
<v Speaker 7>Uh so obviously that speaks to their defense. I think

1434
01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:19.840
<v Speaker 7>they're they're number three in the efficiency ratings coming into

1435
01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:24.960
<v Speaker 7>the week. But you know, I think that's always not always,

1436
01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:26.680
<v Speaker 7>But that's gonna be the problem with Tennessee as long

1437
01:18:26.720 --> 01:18:29.159
<v Speaker 7>as they play the style is that if a team

1438
01:18:29.239 --> 01:18:31.880
<v Speaker 7>does get hot, if a good offense gets a little hot,

1439
01:18:31.960 --> 01:18:34.720
<v Speaker 7>and find some teams and I mean, they can beat you.

1440
01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:39.039
<v Speaker 7>And that goes for any anybody. So you know, Kentucky's

1441
01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:42.199
<v Speaker 7>got a chance against them. You know, Alabama, Auburn, all

1442
01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:45.800
<v Speaker 7>these all these great offenses and and the SEC are

1443
01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:47.800
<v Speaker 7>going to have a chance against them, and you know,

1444
01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:50.960
<v Speaker 7>come tournament time. But I think the same thing could

1445
01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:52.199
<v Speaker 7>be true. And that's kind of what we've seen in

1446
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:52.920
<v Speaker 7>recent years.

1447
01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's just night in, night out. I guess

1448
01:18:57.239 --> 01:19:01.159
<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't be surprised by anything. But whatever happens, Ben

1449
01:19:01.279 --> 01:19:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Roberts will cover it for The Herald Leader and tell

1450
01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:08.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody how to follow you on Twitter, It's Ben Roberts.

1451
01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:12.560
<v Speaker 7>HL and yeah, everything on Kentucky dot com and new

1452
01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:15.720
<v Speaker 7>free newsletter out there now, which we do about once

1453
01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:17.800
<v Speaker 7>or twice or three times a week. So all of

1454
01:19:17.840 --> 01:19:20.079
<v Speaker 7>our stories are in there, plus some other kind of

1455
01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:23.800
<v Speaker 7>tidbits from that don't make stories, but I find interesting

1456
01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:26.880
<v Speaker 7>at least and kind of behind the scenes stuff. So yeah, yeah,

1457
01:19:27.039 --> 01:19:28.920
<v Speaker 7>just subscribe to all that if you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds good to me. Thank you, brother, see at the ballgame.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, thanks lot, And that'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to my guest Ben, to Jack Gibbons and Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Coral that's yet. Good night from the garage and Lexidon.

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<v Speaker 3>What has that got to do with it?

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<v Speaker 9>Back off, man, I'm a scientist, set

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<v Speaker 3>U
