Speaker 1: Around.
Speaker 2: This is the seventy seven w ABC Mini cast Eddie Dragon.
Speaker 2: He owns a radio station in New Mexico. He has
Speaker 2: a very big and powerful voice, and he has amazing
Speaker 2: conspiracy mystery stories. And tonight a person that's always fascinated
Speaker 2: me because nothing made sense. It was that actress Anne
Speaker 2: Hash who had a mysterious, mysterious passing. Welcome Eddie, Welcome
Speaker 2: to the other side of Midnight.
Speaker 1: Good morning Walter, and thanks for hanging out this week.
Speaker 1: This is, you know, one of those ones that has
Speaker 1: been on the mind of every you know, Instagram, every
Speaker 1: TikTok follower, everybody out there, because it just, you know,
Speaker 1: keeps repeating itself. An Hash have watched a few movies
Speaker 1: with her in it. She of course, is one that's
Speaker 1: well known, you know, for her partner, and we need
Speaker 1: to really kind of, you know, take a hard look
Speaker 1: at the death of her because this is only four
Speaker 1: years ago. It feels like a lot longer because it's
Speaker 1: been so repetitive. It's just been in your algorithm just
Speaker 1: coming up and once you press one, it just they
Speaker 1: just keep coming up. And in my algorithm it's been
Speaker 1: there as as well. And this is a woman who's
Speaker 1: you know, an actress whose life was you know, marked
Speaker 1: by talent controversy. You know, she's very resilient given her upbringing,
Speaker 1: the abuse that she suffered as a child, and a
Speaker 1: willingness really to kind of come forward and talk about
Speaker 1: her traumas. But in the years since her death, which
Speaker 1: is only four this is back in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: the tragedy has become something more on these social media platforms,
Speaker 1: as I stated, a web of theories involving Hollywood, Ellen Degeneris,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein on Pdddy Comb's child trafficking, and yes, even
Speaker 1: the old Pizzagate narrative. But before we go any further,
Speaker 1: let's let's establish the official record that's out there. Back
Speaker 1: in August fifth, twenty twenty two, and hash crashed her car.
Speaker 1: It was one of those Mini Cooper's Blue one. Watch
Speaker 1: a video of her zooming past into a home in
Speaker 1: the Marvin area of Los Angeles. Now, the collision triggered
Speaker 1: a major fire. Haitch suffered catastrophic injuries days later. About
Speaker 1: a week later, she was declared legally dead after suffering
Speaker 1: an oxic brain injury, which is a loss of oxygen
Speaker 1: to the brain. Now, the Los Angeles County Medical Examiner
Speaker 1: Corners ruled out her death was an accident caused by
Speaker 1: the inhalation thermal injuries. You know, she had a external
Speaker 1: fracture from blunt trauma was also noted so right in
Speaker 1: her chest. But her toxicology report has also been twisted
Speaker 1: online as well. It found an inactive cocaine metabolite, indicating
Speaker 1: prior use, but the coroner said there was no evidence
Speaker 1: that Hash was impaired by illicted drugs at the time
Speaker 1: of the crash. Vnconol detected later was consistent with her
Speaker 1: hospital treatment post crash, obviously and not before the wreck.
Speaker 1: Then came the video, and in this it's startling, I
Speaker 1: think for a lot of people, yourself Walter included. You're
Speaker 1: watching video of you know, the Mini Cooper zooming about
Speaker 1: seventy five eighty miles an hour through that mar Vista
Speaker 1: neighborhood and then you know, running into a crash, and
Speaker 1: there was helicopter footage, which is what is most notable
Speaker 1: about this is that shows and Hash on a stretcher,
Speaker 1: overhead covered, strapped down and then suddenly she appears to
Speaker 1: like sit up, like sits up moves before she was
Speaker 1: loaded into the ambulance and and and right there you're
Speaker 1: looking like, is that a body bag? And she's alive?
Speaker 1: Don't don't take her away. That image has reframed the
Speaker 1: ant Hash escaping a body bag, and that is what
Speaker 1: everybody has been referring to for the last four years.
Speaker 1: But that is not what the footage shows. She was
Speaker 1: actually alive when the firefighters rescued her. She was not
Speaker 1: declared dead at the scene as is commonly understood, or
Speaker 1: she died. She was.
Speaker 2: She was.
Speaker 1: She has a patient cover, she had a sheet. This
Speaker 1: is what the ambulances actually do. They put a restraint
Speaker 1: system and it's not a body bag. Okay, it's the
Speaker 1: this type of framing that helped turn this horrifying emergency
Speaker 1: into conspira. See, you know, thrills for I hate to
Speaker 1: say it, that's what it mostly is. So you know,
Speaker 1: the Ellen degenerous part is really what enters the conversation
Speaker 1: because of her connections to Hollywood. They were partners back
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2: Now do you think a long time ago, do you
Speaker 2: think that Ellen ate her, that Ellen committed cannibalism on
Speaker 2: Anne Hash. Because this is the story we need to bring.
Speaker 1: Forth we I'd like to bring that forward. It sounds
Speaker 1: fantastic and realistic issue, it really does. No Unfortunately, Walter,
Speaker 1: I love to feed that, but she did not feed. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then the symbolism. I mean at the time, you know,
Speaker 1: they were a couple. This was twenty two years prior.
Speaker 1: They're the most visibly openly gay couple in American entertainment,
Speaker 1: famously holding hands at show et cetera, and later spoke
Speaker 1: about personal and professional fallout from being associated with Ellen
Speaker 1: during an arrow when Hollywood was way less accepting. Okay,
Speaker 1: you have to think back. So decades later, Haysh's crash
Speaker 1: brought that relationship back into the forefront and into Internet speculation.
Speaker 1: Some online posts have actually claimed that Anne knew compromising
Speaker 1: things about Degenerous trafficking networks, Epstein or Hollywood powerbrokers, but unfortunately,
Speaker 1: there's no verified evidence showing that Anne Haysh was targeted,
Speaker 1: that she was preparing to expose a criminal network, or
Speaker 1: that Degenerous had any connection to her death in any way.
Speaker 1: And there's another fact that fuels all this narrative, that is,
Speaker 1: through social media, Degenerous and her wife Portia de Rossi.
Speaker 1: By the way, attractive moved to England just a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago after Trump won the reelection in twenty
Speaker 1: four Degenerous later said that the election influenced their decision
Speaker 1: to stay in the UK. But the timing here matters
Speaker 1: because Ann has just died four years ago. The generous
Speaker 1: move came more than two years later. That relocation and
Speaker 1: election is the evidence and not you know, sort of
Speaker 1: a flight from a crime of killing n Hahed unfortunately.
Speaker 1: And then there's the very famous Oscar pizza. Now, anybody
Speaker 1: who's on TikTok has seen this, Okay, for those who
Speaker 1: haven't seen it. Back in twenty fourteen, Ellen de Generes
Speaker 1: hosted the Academy Awards. She hoisted the ceremony and she
Speaker 1: orders a pizza and she started handing the slices around
Speaker 1: the front rows. Brad Pitt, I think Jennifer Lawrence is
Speaker 1: there another? Major stars are part of this.
Speaker 2: It was a famous event. Yes, absolutely, you're right.
Speaker 1: So and people have been integrating this and it was
Speaker 1: just a you know, comic moment, essentially tossing up pizza
Speaker 1: for you know, really what's there. And the delivery drive
Speaker 1: was brought into the theater in Los Angeles, so years later,
Speaker 1: after the Pizzagate conspiracy took hold, some people have retroactively
Speaker 1: treated the pizza bit as a coded signal that, oh, pizzagate,
Speaker 1: and that's a leap again that there is no link. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: Walter So, Pizzagate, of course, was the claim that Democrats
Speaker 1: were operating a child trafficking ring from Comet Ping Pong
Speaker 1: in DC. No victims, criminal evidence or legitimate investigation has
Speaker 1: supported that claim. Okay, legitimately as not, but it has
Speaker 1: had real world consequences when you know this back in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, this guy walks in into a non existent
Speaker 1: basement and fire shots inside Comet Ping Pong. And this
Speaker 1: is all a lesson this pizza reference, all the pizza
Speaker 1: references that are out there. Sure, there's some indications of that,
Speaker 1: but with regard to Ellen DeGeneres and the pizza event
Speaker 1: that happened over at the Dolby Theater in Hollywood. Now,
Speaker 1: the celebrity friendship can be a celebrity friendship. You can
Speaker 1: have appearances and then let's finally hit the last part.
Speaker 2: Go now, Eddie Dragon, what about this myth or this
Speaker 2: fact that today Ellen DeGeneres is suffering from a disease
Speaker 2: and the disease she seems to be suffering from is
Speaker 2: one that you only get if you eat human flesh.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, what evidence is there that she's actually suffering
Speaker 1: from this disease? This was also I.
Speaker 2: Read I read, Yeah, I read it on the internet,
Speaker 2: so it must be true.
Speaker 1: It must be true. Yeah, So I'm not going to
Speaker 1: validate that at all either. She has been, like you know,
Speaker 1: out of the public eye for the last two two
Speaker 1: and a half years. So again, the Internet can speculate
Speaker 1: at any point of which there actually isn't evidence. And
Speaker 1: then unfortunately we live in this era where photos and
Speaker 1: videos can now be doctored. You don't even know what
Speaker 1: to believe half the time that's actually there. But here
Speaker 1: is one that actually people have been legitimizing a lot
Speaker 1: more because you have a New York resident right here
Speaker 1: in New York City, Sean Diddy Combs. Remember him and
Speaker 1: Ellen were close. They appeared on the show together. Old
Speaker 1: clips show them joking about the parties, the p didty parties.
Speaker 1: These clips have re emerged amid the investigation and civil
Speaker 1: litigation surrounding p Diddy. But a talk pro show relationship,
Speaker 1: you know, banter party talk. All this alleged criminal events,
Speaker 1: you know, the crimes, whether or not Ellen participated in them.
Speaker 1: I mean this is important because the charges and allegations
Speaker 1: directed at, you know, a person like P Diddy can't
Speaker 1: be transferred to everybody who took a photo, interviewed him,
Speaker 1: or a tenisory event, you know, of course, Walter. On
Speaker 1: a serious note, child exploitation and trafficking, they're real, they're
Speaker 1: horrific crimes. The failures are the powerful institutions to identify,
Speaker 1: investigate and stop abuse actually need to be reinforced. Of course,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein is just a genuine example of wealthy and
Speaker 1: connected offenders. I know more of that than anybody that's
Speaker 1: probably on your program, or anybody even that you know
Speaker 1: you're being a recipient of that. Yeah, But when every
Speaker 1: celebrity interaction becomes proof, this is when it becomes harder,
Speaker 1: not easier, to focus on the perpetrators like Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 1: or the victims, or the records or the witnesses or
Speaker 1: financial trails or whatever it is that they're connected to.
Speaker 1: And Haiti's death is tragic, of course, it raises a
Speaker 1: lot of questions because the crash, it's chaotic, right, the footage.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, it's disturbing that eighty miles an hour through
Speaker 1: a neighborhood and she doesn't die at the scene, she's
Speaker 1: taken in and then you know, unzipping that quote unquote
Speaker 1: body bag. And Hollywood is an industr that has repeatedly
Speaker 1: protected powerful people. Of course, but the documented record says
Speaker 1: she died in an accidental crash and fire. The rest
Speaker 1: of the claims murder, secret trafficking, Ellen DeGeneres, relocation, pizza, Pizzagate,
Speaker 1: the Celebrity Code, all of that is just speculation.
Speaker 2: Eddie Dragon, what's the name of your radio station.
Speaker 1: Rockof Talk rockoftalk dot com, Walter love your show. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me.
Speaker 2: On you bet Eddie Dragon in New Mexico. Thank you
Speaker 2: for being on the other side of Midnight.