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<v Speaker 1>Around.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the seventy seven w ABC Mini cast Eddie Dragon.

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<v Speaker 2>He owns a radio station in New Mexico. He has

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<v Speaker 2>a very big and powerful voice, and he has amazing

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy mystery stories. And tonight a person that's always fascinated

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<v Speaker 2>me because nothing made sense. It was that actress Anne

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<v Speaker 2>Hash who had a mysterious, mysterious passing. Welcome Eddie, Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the other side of Midnight.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning Walter, and thanks for hanging out this week.

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<v Speaker 1>This is, you know, one of those ones that has

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<v Speaker 1>been on the mind of every you know, Instagram, every

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok follower, everybody out there, because it just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>keeps repeating itself. An Hash have watched a few movies

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<v Speaker 1>with her in it. She of course, is one that's

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<v Speaker 1>well known, you know, for her partner, and we need

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<v Speaker 1>to really kind of, you know, take a hard look

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<v Speaker 1>at the death of her because this is only four

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. It feels like a lot longer because it's

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<v Speaker 1>been so repetitive. It's just been in your algorithm just

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<v Speaker 1>coming up and once you press one, it just they

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<v Speaker 1>just keep coming up. And in my algorithm it's been

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<v Speaker 1>there as as well. And this is a woman who's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an actress whose life was you know, marked

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<v Speaker 1>by talent controversy. You know, she's very resilient given her upbringing,

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<v Speaker 1>the abuse that she suffered as a child, and a

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<v Speaker 1>willingness really to kind of come forward and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>her traumas. But in the years since her death, which

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<v Speaker 1>is only four this is back in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>the tragedy has become something more on these social media platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>as I stated, a web of theories involving Hollywood, Ellen Degeneris,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein on Pdddy Comb's child trafficking, and yes, even

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<v Speaker 1>the old Pizzagate narrative. But before we go any further,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's establish the official record that's out there. Back

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<v Speaker 1>in August fifth, twenty twenty two, and hash crashed her car.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of those Mini Cooper's Blue one. Watch

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<v Speaker 1>a video of her zooming past into a home in

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<v Speaker 1>the Marvin area of Los Angeles. Now, the collision triggered

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<v Speaker 1>a major fire. Haitch suffered catastrophic injuries days later. About

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<v Speaker 1>a week later, she was declared legally dead after suffering

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<v Speaker 1>an oxic brain injury, which is a loss of oxygen

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<v Speaker 1>to the brain. Now, the Los Angeles County Medical Examiner

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<v Speaker 1>Corners ruled out her death was an accident caused by

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<v Speaker 1>the inhalation thermal injuries. You know, she had a external

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<v Speaker 1>fracture from blunt trauma was also noted so right in

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<v Speaker 1>her chest. But her toxicology report has also been twisted

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<v Speaker 1>online as well. It found an inactive cocaine metabolite, indicating

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<v Speaker 1>prior use, but the coroner said there was no evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that Hash was impaired by illicted drugs at the time

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<v Speaker 1>of the crash. Vnconol detected later was consistent with her

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<v Speaker 1>hospital treatment post crash, obviously and not before the wreck.

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<v Speaker 1>Then came the video, and in this it's startling, I

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<v Speaker 1>think for a lot of people, yourself Walter included. You're

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<v Speaker 1>watching video of you know, the Mini Cooper zooming about

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five eighty miles an hour through that mar Vista

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood and then you know, running into a crash, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was helicopter footage, which is what is most notable

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<v Speaker 1>about this is that shows and Hash on a stretcher,

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<v Speaker 1>overhead covered, strapped down and then suddenly she appears to

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<v Speaker 1>like sit up, like sits up moves before she was

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<v Speaker 1>loaded into the ambulance and and and right there you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking like, is that a body bag? And she's alive?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't don't take her away. That image has reframed the

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<v Speaker 1>ant Hash escaping a body bag, and that is what

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has been referring to for the last four years.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is not what the footage shows. She was

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<v Speaker 1>actually alive when the firefighters rescued her. She was not

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<v Speaker 1>declared dead at the scene as is commonly understood, or

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<v Speaker 1>she died. She was.

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<v Speaker 2>She was.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a patient cover, she had a sheet. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what the ambulances actually do. They put a restraint

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<v Speaker 1>system and it's not a body bag. Okay, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>this type of framing that helped turn this horrifying emergency

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<v Speaker 1>into conspira. See, you know, thrills for I hate to

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<v Speaker 1>say it, that's what it mostly is. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ellen degenerous part is really what enters the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because of her connections to Hollywood. They were partners back

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Now do you think a long time ago, do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that Ellen ate her, that Ellen committed cannibalism on

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<v Speaker 2>Anne Hash. Because this is the story we need to bring.

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<v Speaker 1>Forth we I'd like to bring that forward. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic and realistic issue, it really does. No Unfortunately, Walter,

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<v Speaker 1>I love to feed that, but she did not feed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the symbolism. I mean at the time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they were a couple. This was twenty two years prior.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the most visibly openly gay couple in American entertainment,

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<v Speaker 1>famously holding hands at show et cetera, and later spoke

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<v Speaker 1>about personal and professional fallout from being associated with Ellen

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<v Speaker 1>during an arrow when Hollywood was way less accepting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to think back. So decades later, Haysh's crash

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<v Speaker 1>brought that relationship back into the forefront and into Internet speculation.

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<v Speaker 1>Some online posts have actually claimed that Anne knew compromising

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<v Speaker 1>things about Degenerous trafficking networks, Epstein or Hollywood powerbrokers, but unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no verified evidence showing that Anne Haysh was targeted,

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<v Speaker 1>that she was preparing to expose a criminal network, or

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<v Speaker 1>that Degenerous had any connection to her death in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's another fact that fuels all this narrative, that is,

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<v Speaker 1>through social media, Degenerous and her wife Portia de Rossi.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, attractive moved to England just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago after Trump won the reelection in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four Degenerous later said that the election influenced their decision

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in the UK. But the timing here matters

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<v Speaker 1>because Ann has just died four years ago. The generous

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<v Speaker 1>move came more than two years later. That relocation and

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<v Speaker 1>election is the evidence and not you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a flight from a crime of killing n Hahed unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's the very famous Oscar pizza. Now, anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who's on TikTok has seen this, Okay, for those who

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen it. Back in twenty fourteen, Ellen de Generes

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<v Speaker 1>hosted the Academy Awards. She hoisted the ceremony and she

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<v Speaker 1>orders a pizza and she started handing the slices around

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<v Speaker 1>the front rows. Brad Pitt, I think Jennifer Lawrence is

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<v Speaker 1>there another? Major stars are part of this.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a famous event. Yes, absolutely, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>So and people have been integrating this and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a you know, comic moment, essentially tossing up pizza

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, really what's there. And the delivery drive

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<v Speaker 1>was brought into the theater in Los Angeles, so years later,

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<v Speaker 1>after the Pizzagate conspiracy took hold, some people have retroactively

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<v Speaker 1>treated the pizza bit as a coded signal that, oh, pizzagate,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a leap again that there is no link. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>Walter So, Pizzagate, of course, was the claim that Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>were operating a child trafficking ring from Comet Ping Pong

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<v Speaker 1>in DC. No victims, criminal evidence or legitimate investigation has

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<v Speaker 1>supported that claim. Okay, legitimately as not, but it has

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<v Speaker 1>had real world consequences when you know this back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, this guy walks in into a non existent

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<v Speaker 1>basement and fire shots inside Comet Ping Pong. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is all a lesson this pizza reference, all the pizza

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<v Speaker 1>references that are out there. Sure, there's some indications of that,

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<v Speaker 1>but with regard to Ellen DeGeneres and the pizza event

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<v Speaker 1>that happened over at the Dolby Theater in Hollywood. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the celebrity friendship can be a celebrity friendship. You can

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<v Speaker 1>have appearances and then let's finally hit the last part.

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<v Speaker 2>Go now, Eddie Dragon, what about this myth or this

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<v Speaker 2>fact that today Ellen DeGeneres is suffering from a disease

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<v Speaker 2>and the disease she seems to be suffering from is

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<v Speaker 2>one that you only get if you eat human flesh.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, what evidence is there that she's actually suffering

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<v Speaker 1>from this disease? This was also I.

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<v Speaker 2>Read I read, Yeah, I read it on the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>so it must be true.

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<v Speaker 1>It must be true. Yeah, So I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>validate that at all either. She has been, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>out of the public eye for the last two two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half years. So again, the Internet can speculate

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<v Speaker 1>at any point of which there actually isn't evidence. And

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<v Speaker 1>then unfortunately we live in this era where photos and

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<v Speaker 1>videos can now be doctored. You don't even know what

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<v Speaker 1>to believe half the time that's actually there. But here

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<v Speaker 1>is one that actually people have been legitimizing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more because you have a New York resident right here

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City, Sean Diddy Combs. Remember him and

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<v Speaker 1>Ellen were close. They appeared on the show together. Old

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<v Speaker 1>clips show them joking about the parties, the p didty parties.

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<v Speaker 1>These clips have re emerged amid the investigation and civil

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<v Speaker 1>litigation surrounding p Diddy. But a talk pro show relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, banter party talk. All this alleged criminal events,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the crimes, whether or not Ellen participated in them.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this is important because the charges and allegations

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<v Speaker 1>directed at, you know, a person like P Diddy can't

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<v Speaker 1>be transferred to everybody who took a photo, interviewed him,

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<v Speaker 1>or a tenisory event, you know, of course, Walter. On

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<v Speaker 1>a serious note, child exploitation and trafficking, they're real, they're

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<v Speaker 1>horrific crimes. The failures are the powerful institutions to identify,

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<v Speaker 1>investigate and stop abuse actually need to be reinforced. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein is just a genuine example of wealthy and

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<v Speaker 1>connected offenders. I know more of that than anybody that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably on your program, or anybody even that you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're being a recipient of that. Yeah, But when every

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity interaction becomes proof, this is when it becomes harder,

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<v Speaker 1>not easier, to focus on the perpetrators like Jeffrey Epstein,

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<v Speaker 1>or the victims, or the records or the witnesses or

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<v Speaker 1>financial trails or whatever it is that they're connected to.

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<v Speaker 1>And Haiti's death is tragic, of course, it raises a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of questions because the crash, it's chaotic, right, the footage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, it's disturbing that eighty miles an hour through

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<v Speaker 1>a neighborhood and she doesn't die at the scene, she's

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<v Speaker 1>taken in and then you know, unzipping that quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>body bag. And Hollywood is an industr that has repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>protected powerful people. Of course, but the documented record says

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<v Speaker 1>she died in an accidental crash and fire. The rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the claims murder, secret trafficking, Ellen DeGeneres, relocation, pizza, Pizzagate,

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<v Speaker 1>the Celebrity Code, all of that is just speculation.

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<v Speaker 2>Eddie Dragon, what's the name of your radio station.

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<v Speaker 1>Rockof Talk rockoftalk dot com, Walter love your show. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>On you bet Eddie Dragon in New Mexico. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for being on the other side of Midnight.