1 00:00:23,039 --> 00:00:27,839 Speaker 1: And hello, how are you on this Monday? Today is 2 00:00:27,839 --> 00:00:30,920 the eighteenth day of May, year of Our Lord, twenty 3 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,119 twenty six. My name is Tom Sullivan. And we've got 4 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,679 busy day today, very busy day. There's a lot to 5 00:00:38,719 --> 00:00:42,920 get to and we've got the update on what's going 6 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,640 on with Iran about oil and gas. We've got the 7 00:00:46,799 --> 00:00:52,200 lawsuit between Elon Musk and Sam Waltman. That case jury 8 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:57,320 came to a conclusion today. And also Luigi Maggione was 9 00:00:57,359 --> 00:01:01,520 back in court today and a judge made some ruling 10 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,719 on what was admissible and what was not. And then 11 00:01:06,079 --> 00:01:09,480 over the weekend, Bill Cassidy, the Senator from Louisiana. He's 12 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:16,200 a medical doctor, but he voted in favor of one 13 00:01:16,239 --> 00:01:19,439 of the impeachments and Donald Trump has never forgotten it 14 00:01:19,519 --> 00:01:24,159 and made sure that he had opposition, so he was primary. 15 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,840 They had the election on Saturday and man alive. Bill 16 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,519 Cassidy came in third, so there's two Republicans ahead of him, 17 00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:36,560 so he got he got trounced. Basically. We'll get into 18 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,040 some of the numbers in just a minute, but I 19 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,760 want to start I normally do, but I'm thinking i'd 20 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,799 like to start with something else. But we just had 21 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,159 some breaking news just moments ago, is that the president 22 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:55,079 and the whole situation with Iran has done a one 23 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:02,000 to eighty because earlier today President Trump planned to strike 24 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:11,199 Iran tomorrow tomorrow. But now, in fact he was expected 25 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,240 to convene his top national security council in the Situation 26 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,439 room tomorrow morning to discuss military options. But apparently he 27 00:02:20,599 --> 00:02:24,080 was planning to do a military strike on Iran tomorrow. 28 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,240 But we just found out moments ago that he has 29 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:34,560 decided to hold off and give negotiations yet another chance. 30 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:38,120 And he claimed that the decision was at the request 31 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:46,039 of several Arab leaders. So now we have one more 32 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,560 the stop of what was going to be a military action. 33 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,680 He wrote on True Social I've been asked by the 34 00:02:55,719 --> 00:02:59,439 Emir of Qatar, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, and 35 00:02:59,479 --> 00:03:02,199 the President of the United Arab Emirates, to hold off 36 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:08,039 on our planned military attack of the Islamic Republic of Iran, 37 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:14,319 which was scheduled for tomorrow. I know, he added, the 38 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,879 Arab leaders told him serious negotiations are now taking place 39 00:03:19,759 --> 00:03:24,479 and that in their opinion, as great leaders and allies, 40 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,560 a deal will be made which will be very acceptable 41 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:30,080 to the United States as well as all countries in 42 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,639 the Middle East and beyond. President claimed the deal will 43 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,639 make sure that Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons. But this 44 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:44,639 is a repeated claim about progress that's being made since 45 00:03:44,639 --> 00:03:50,599 the war began. But there's no breakthroughs that anybody has seen. 46 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:56,879 So he the President instructed Pete Hegseth and General dan 47 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Kin to suspend the attack plans, but to be prepared 48 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,639 to go with a full large scale assault on Iran 49 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:08,919 on a moment's noticed in the event that an acceptable 50 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,319 deal is not reached. Now, I maybe this is just 51 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,639 his way of negotiating, but it seems like he caves 52 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:20,399 every time they say, oh wa wa, wait a minute, 53 00:04:20,439 --> 00:04:24,360 wait a minute, wait a minute. 54 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: And Moran. 55 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: Iran is is famous for stalling techniques, and this appears 56 00:04:31,079 --> 00:04:35,920 to be that. But he's the president and he said no, no, no, no, 57 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,879 let's not because I got this nice letter. But before 58 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,079 this came in, before this this news about Donald Trump 59 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:52,240 doing another one P eighty we found from General Jack Keene. 60 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,480 Of course he's been ready to go, chomping at the bit, 61 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,959 but this is what he said before the news broke 62 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,160 late this afternoon. 63 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,399 Speaker 3: Well, let's just start with that interview you just had. 64 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,959 Certainly our empathy goes out to the suffering of the 65 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,800 Iranian people. But believe me, a regime doesn't care about 66 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,240 that interview you just played. I mean, where they're coming 67 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,199 from is they believe they can stick with this and 68 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:19,759 run the clock out. And that's what they're trying to 69 00:05:19,759 --> 00:05:23,519 do right now, even with modifying a negotiating position. They 70 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,680 want to run this clock out, increase the political economic 71 00:05:27,759 --> 00:05:31,920 pressure on the president. And they just don't care about 72 00:05:31,959 --> 00:05:34,639 the suffering of people. What do they care about. They 73 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,800 care about one the survival of the regime in themselves. 74 00:05:37,879 --> 00:05:40,480 That's what this is all about. And if they get 75 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:44,720 a negotiated deal, they think that they'll get financing to 76 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:47,920 help recover the regime. That is what their objective is here. 77 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,199 Where are we The presidents exhibit a huge amount of 78 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,199 patience here since the ceasefire on April of the eighth, 79 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,680 and we've tried to work a deal with these guys 80 00:05:56,759 --> 00:06:00,319 and it just doesn't seem possible. And where we are, 81 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,639 we're on the cusp of going back into military operations. 82 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,199 When we stop, we had two weeks to go a 83 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,720 little less than thirty percent of the targets. Those targets remain, 84 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,839 but we have better intelligence now after these five six weeks, 85 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:18,240 so that target list has expanded. It's considerably more comprehensive. 86 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:22,319 It'll be a combined operation with the United States and 87 00:06:22,519 --> 00:06:28,560 Israel going full throttle, all out, no half measures here whatsoever. 88 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,519 And when those target lists are complete, and they will 89 00:06:31,519 --> 00:06:33,879 consist of the rest of the weapons that are remaining 90 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,680 to some indicate some of the what you just mentioned, 91 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,959 to include what remains of nuclear and also all the 92 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:46,160 organizations that sustaining the regime. We have better intelligence on 93 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,360 locations and other things associated with that, and certainly they're 94 00:06:50,399 --> 00:06:54,439 going to be a comprehensive target list in of itself, 95 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,480 and then a grouping of targets that really deal with 96 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,279 all of our Iran's revenue sources to force an economic 97 00:07:03,319 --> 00:07:06,720 collapse of the regime. Obviously, car galland Blockade is having 98 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:12,000 significant impact, but this attack will even further aggravate their 99 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,600 ability to gain revenue source. Without revenue, it's hard to 100 00:07:15,639 --> 00:07:18,560 see how this regime can survive. So we put it 101 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:20,319 on a path and I think at some point at 102 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,879 the end of this thing, after we open the straits 103 00:07:22,879 --> 00:07:25,360 of a moves and begin to get it secure off 104 00:07:25,399 --> 00:07:29,240 of the IRGC leaders, you know, a tree trip out 105 00:07:29,399 --> 00:07:31,759 to a place of their choice and see if we 106 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,519 can work a deal, that kind of a deal with 107 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,480 them and make some positive changes in the regime. So, yes, 108 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,839 we are on the cusp of returning to full throttle 109 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:43,000 combat operations. 110 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,639 Speaker 1: Well, you can hear from General Keane, he's been ready 111 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,079 to go. I mean this has been I think the 112 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:56,639 Iranian regime in Tehran, the IRGC, I think they're laughing 113 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,160 at us. I think they're going I can't believe we 114 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,120 we talked our way out of it again. But here's 115 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:07,399 the general, he is more than ready to go. 116 00:08:08,399 --> 00:08:11,079 Speaker 3: Well, I think we've had a very good plan from 117 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,959 the outset, and we decided to go to the ceasefire 118 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,720 because the Ranians were making some noises about willing to 119 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,839 negotiate that plan. If anything, has improved considerably over the 120 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,040 last five or six weeks, as I've stated, so, our 121 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:29,360 people know what to do, and they certainly know how 122 00:08:29,399 --> 00:08:31,680 to do it, and there's no doubt in my mind 123 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,759 that we're going to be able to accomplish the original 124 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,759 objectives we set for ourselves here and that's to make 125 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:40,519 sure they don't have a nuclear capability, dismantle their ballistic 126 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:46,240 missile and drone program rather comprehensively, and have them not 127 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:48,559 be in a position to continue to be predators in 128 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,519 the region, and support for proxies. And I think while 129 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,519 we're not going to put ground troops in the force 130 00:08:54,519 --> 00:08:57,639 of regime change, I think we can do just about 131 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,480 everything that's possible to put them on a path for 132 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,720 that regime change. And I would hope that the CIA 133 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,519 and the Masada working very hard here to under minor 134 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,440 regime and also to provide any assistance we can to 135 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,279 the Iranian people. I'm just making the assumption that that 136 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,120 is a corollary program that's paralleling what we're about to 137 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,919 do with military operations. 138 00:09:19,159 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: Well, so now we sit back and wait and see 139 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:28,399 what would you think are the chances that this peace 140 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:34,120 negotiation is going to lead to a satisfactory conclusion. Because 141 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,080 the last time, this last week, they sent over a 142 00:09:38,279 --> 00:09:41,120 response to the United States and Trump, so I didn't 143 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,559 even finish reading it. It was garbage. So I don't 144 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,600 think the Iranian leadership, the IRGC, this is a game 145 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,440 for them. I think they are high fighting each other 146 00:09:51,519 --> 00:09:56,600 right now and laughing at us. Yes, I do so. 147 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,600 Oil and gas is another. And the longer that this 148 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,120 goes on, the more the world's economy continues to go downhill. 149 00:10:06,039 --> 00:10:11,080 Daniel Jurgen is legendary in the investment industry for being 150 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,240 an expert on all things oil and gas, and he 151 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,600 was asked about the situation in that industry. 152 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 4: I mean now is the inventories that have helped keep 153 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:24,480 prices from going too high are getting pretty much drained out. 154 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:26,879 And that's the key factor. So where's the other're oil 155 00:10:26,919 --> 00:10:31,039 going to go? Our numbers are that before the crisis, 156 00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:33,600 about one hundred and thirty five ships a day went 157 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,159 through this strait of horror moves. In May, it's been 158 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,919 nine ships a day, so that you've lost about at 159 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,399 one point two billion barrels of oil so far. Because 160 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:45,000 I would know that there are inventories and alternative supplies. 161 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:47,320 The key question was how long was this crisis going 162 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,360 to go on? And what's happening now is the Iranians 163 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:53,720 are solidifying their control. They've set up what they call 164 00:10:53,759 --> 00:10:57,360 the Persian Gulf Straight Authority and this little piece of paper. 165 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,559 If you want to send a ship through, they send 166 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,440 you an X cell sheet that you have to fill 167 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,000 out and then they'll decide whether you can go through 168 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,360 or not. And by the way, pay them. And this 169 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,600 is absolutely unacceptable to the Arab countries because they know 170 00:11:09,639 --> 00:11:12,200 if they give, if they pay these tolls, this money's 171 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,320 going to the IRGC. 172 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: So the longer this goes on, the more your cost 173 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:21,279 and mind in the world goes higher. And yet at 174 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:26,240 the same time, Daniel Jurgen still has some hope for 175 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:27,919 a negotiated settlement. 176 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: Assume that there's a deal that, after all, deals are 177 00:11:31,639 --> 00:11:34,399 what the Trump administration is all about. But we've seen 178 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,120 pretty far away from it right now. And the Iranians 179 00:11:37,159 --> 00:11:40,799 know that they have a very strong position, by it's 180 00:11:40,879 --> 00:11:44,399 not their new nuclear position is control of the straight right, so. 181 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: They control the straight But at the other side of 182 00:11:46,519 --> 00:11:51,279 the coin is they only respect strength, they don't respect 183 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,919 some sort of diplomatic behavior. 184 00:11:55,279 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: Well, I think let's say it goes higher. I'm not 185 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:59,879 going to put one hundred and fifty or two hundred 186 00:11:59,879 --> 00:12:02,519 t on it. But if we remain on the track 187 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,799 that we are, and we're going into the season of 188 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,639 increased driving around the world, increase air travel around the world, 189 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,919 so the call on fuel is going to go up, 190 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,879 and we've seen it. 191 00:12:12,879 --> 00:12:13,879 Speaker 2: It ticks up the price. 192 00:12:13,919 --> 00:12:16,919 Speaker 4: Either if somebody says something that sounds like maybe there's 193 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,519 going to be a deal, the future prices go down. 194 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,200 But if you watch what people are actually paying for cargoes, 195 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,840 those prices are higher and that shows that there is shortage. 196 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:28,279 Speaker 1: So let's assume that someday this is all going to 197 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,159 come to an end, either militarily or through negotiations. And 198 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,879 if so, mister Jurgen, do you think that oil prices 199 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,120 will drop like a rock. 200 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: Well, I think the price would absolutely come down when 201 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,360 that happens, but it's still the crisis doesn't end in 202 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:46,840 a single day. The cleanup, we think would take about 203 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,480 six months to get everything back to normal. 204 00:12:49,159 --> 00:12:52,159 Speaker 2: Which we get you to what wells in terms of 205 00:12:52,159 --> 00:12:52,799 the price of oil. 206 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,039 Speaker 4: Well, if it went back to normal and we were 207 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,799 back to surplus situation, then we'd probably be in the 208 00:12:57,879 --> 00:13:01,879 sixties or seventies or eighties. You know, before the military 209 00:13:01,879 --> 00:13:05,600 build up started, oil was in the sixties. So the 210 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:07,720 price would actually come down, the tension would go out 211 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,559 of the market, but it's going to not get fixed quickly. Well, 212 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,360 six months to get the whole thing fixed and get 213 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,559 back to normal. But prices would certainly if there was 214 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,279 an announcement of the deal, things started to flow, there'd 215 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,039 be a giant sigh of relief and prices would come down, 216 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,000 whether maybe not down to sixty, maybe they go down 217 00:13:25,039 --> 00:13:27,759 to eighty or something like that would reflect it. 218 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, So bottom line, this guy is considered the three 219 00:13:30,759 --> 00:13:34,120 imminent oil and gas expert. It's not going back to 220 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,679 sixty anytime soon, and it's going to take six months 221 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,559 to kind of clean things up. But he thinks it'll 222 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,440 go from one hundred dollars a barrel down to eighty 223 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,960 dollars a barrow when it was in the high fifties 224 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,399 and low sixties before the war started. So in court radio, 225 00:13:49,279 --> 00:13:51,519 I feel like that sometimes. A couple of big court 226 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:57,919 cases today. First of all, there was Luigi Maggione was 227 00:13:58,039 --> 00:14:01,399 or the Maggione or Magi I'm not quite Sherifford pronounced 228 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:05,440 both ways. But Luigi who shot and killed United Healthcare 229 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,679 CEO on the streets of Manhattan a couple of years ago. 230 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:15,799 He was back in state court today and a judge 231 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,879 has issued a ruling about some of the admissibility of evidence. 232 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,960 So remember how this went was that Luigi allegedly shot 233 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:30,120 the CEO on West fifty fourth Street and then took 234 00:14:30,159 --> 00:14:32,639 off and they found him a couple of days later 235 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:39,039 in Altoona, Pennsylvania. So the police there did a couple 236 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,240 of things. One is, they took his bag that they 237 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,159 had and put it on another table at the McDonald's 238 00:14:45,559 --> 00:14:48,679 where they found him, so that he couldn't reach it. 239 00:14:49,399 --> 00:14:54,960 And then they also took that bag and then searched 240 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,200 through it. And the judge said that was a big 241 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:01,720 no no because he could reached the bag, therefore it 242 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,200 wasn't dangerous. But how did the police should look through 243 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,200 it to find out that there's a bomb or some 244 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,559 explosive in there? But the judge ruled, no, that you 245 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:13,919 were wrong. You should should have gotten a warrant to 246 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,559 look through that bag. Then they take the bag and 247 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,720 him and they bring him down to the police station 248 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:24,320 and in the police station they inventory the bag, which 249 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:26,759 is okay, and the judge says, oh, well, what you 250 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,440 found when you inventoried? What'd you find? And they said, 251 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,720 we found the gun and the judge said, oh, that's admissible. 252 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,360 Oh we also found his manifesto. Oh that's admissible. So 253 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:42,960 when all was said and done, they said that there 254 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:44,960 was a passport in the bag. You can't use that. 255 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,080 I don't know what that would do anyway. His phone, 256 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,120 you can't use that. That was in the bag as well, 257 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,039 but the phone would have who he had been talking to. 258 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,799 Was there any text messages any all that sort of stuff. 259 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,519 Is wallet, they can't use that. There was a computer chip, 260 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,960 they can't use that. And there was a magazine, a 261 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,840 gun magazine. They can't use that. But they can use 262 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:16,480 since they when they inventory the bag, the gun, and 263 00:16:16,559 --> 00:16:21,320 that is critical that they find the gun that looked 264 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,879 like the gun on the video of him shooting the 265 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:29,120 executive and also ballistically matched to the bullets that killed 266 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,120 the executive. There was also a silencer in that they 267 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,759 found that they can use, and the notebook manifesto. So 268 00:16:37,879 --> 00:16:43,679 let's start this with Jonathan Turtley, the law professor at 269 00:16:43,679 --> 00:16:45,159 George Washington University. 270 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,159 Speaker 5: I think that is fair. The initial reports were that 271 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,600 the diary or manifesto were thrown out with the rest 272 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,519 of those contents other than the gun. The fact that 273 00:16:55,559 --> 00:16:59,840 they got the gun and the manifesto are really the 274 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,559 two critical pieces of evidence that they most wanted and 275 00:17:03,919 --> 00:17:07,680 it makes this a very difficult criminal case. I'm really 276 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,720 at a loss to come up with any type of 277 00:17:09,759 --> 00:17:14,200 theories you mentioned. It's just confusing how you go to 278 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,039 a jury and still say the guy's not guilty when 279 00:17:17,039 --> 00:17:21,160 he has the gun that matches the homicide. He's got 280 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,720 a manifesto explaining his philosophy for killing a healthcare executive, 281 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,839 and you've got a video of the guy that looks 282 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,160 strikingly like the defendant. That doesn't leave a lot of 283 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,960 room at the elbows. But it basically broke the way 284 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,759 that we had discussed initially between the searches and also 285 00:17:39,799 --> 00:17:43,119 with the statements the court here is looking at when 286 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:48,039 he was put into custody. He's giving Maggione a little 287 00:17:48,079 --> 00:17:50,680 bit of a benefit here saying that I'm going to 288 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,319 take out a couple of statements made just before you 289 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,039 were effectively coughed or put into custody, But he's allowing 290 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,759 in other statements. So in balance, it's still a good 291 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:06,279 day for the prosecution. They started out with a mountain 292 00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:09,279 of evidence. I think they still have a mountain. Maybe 293 00:18:09,319 --> 00:18:12,440 it's a plateau, but it's still pretty steep climb for 294 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,079 the defense. 295 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: So listen, I fully subscribe to our privacy rights, and 296 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:21,920 the police can't just search you for no reason whatsoever. 297 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,039 This was certainly the guy, and they knew that they 298 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,720 had him, and that he was the guy who had 299 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:35,000 just murdered on the streets the CEO United Healthcare And 300 00:18:35,079 --> 00:18:38,400 so this seems like kabuki theater to me, to play 301 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,880 all these games about what can and can that be 302 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,640 admitted and you can. You can admit the things that 303 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,519 you found when you looked in the bag at the 304 00:18:46,519 --> 00:18:48,880 police station, but you can't admit the things that you 305 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,920 found at the MacDonald's in the same bag. I'm sorry 306 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:59,039 that this makes the judicial system look semi silly in 307 00:18:59,079 --> 00:19:04,000 my humble opinion. Paul Morrell, former NYPD investigator, says this. 308 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 6: So you have to parse this quite Finally, while it 309 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,160 sounds like a partial win for each side, iss overall, 310 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,119 it's a big win for the prosecution in some the 311 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,519 judge decided under New York State arrest log, which leans 312 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:23,240 on the idea that the police can search stuff that 313 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:28,759 is lungible, grabable. That's the operational term that the perpetrator 314 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:31,960 can get to that stuff they're allowed to look at 315 00:19:32,079 --> 00:19:35,119 because the cops and Altoona had taken the bag and 316 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,880 moved it away from Luigi by about ten feet. The 317 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,480 judge assessed that stuff was not lungible grabable. Therefore, the 318 00:19:42,519 --> 00:19:45,880 search they did at this scene is suppressed. What did 319 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,799 they see at this scene, according to the decision, his passport, 320 00:19:50,039 --> 00:19:54,559 his phone, a computer ship, those things out there not 321 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,680 coming in. As for the state case, understand, in the 322 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,559 federal case, it's all coming in back at the station house. 323 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,279 After they removed the backpack to the station house. Under 324 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,559 inventory procedures, cops are allowed to go through the stuff 325 00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:12,799 that they bring into the station house the inventory to 326 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,279 make sure that there's nothing in there that's going to explode, 327 00:20:15,319 --> 00:20:19,279 et cetera. That's solid New York State procedure. When they 328 00:20:19,319 --> 00:20:23,200 do that, they get the gun and they get the manifesto. 329 00:20:23,759 --> 00:20:25,880 Now those of us who have been observing in this 330 00:20:26,039 --> 00:20:31,000 case realize, I think pretty uniformly that the gun that 331 00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:33,920 has been tied by ballistics to the shooting of Brian 332 00:20:34,039 --> 00:20:37,400 Thompson is key evidence because it's a one to one 333 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,839 The gun that he had in the backpack was the 334 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,160 gun that was used, according to ballistic science, to shoot 335 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,680 Brian Thompson. That gun's coming in as is the manifesto. 336 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,519 Portions of the manifesto have been published online. Those portions 337 00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:57,640 reveal quite directly that in this case, Mangeon did what 338 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,079 he did for an ideological purpose. You carried out the 339 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,640 shooting of Brian Thompson and cognizantly chose the CEO of 340 00:21:05,839 --> 00:21:09,799 United Healthcare me caan extremely damning So when you really 341 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,160 parse it out, at first it looked like, wow, this 342 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,640 went mengi Own's way to some of us quite surprised, 343 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,200 But it looks to me like the key evidence is 344 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,519 coming in. 345 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: Well, it makes the justice system seem even more baffling 346 00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:26,960 because there's two cases against him, and they're not double 347 00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:30,640 jeopardy because therefore two different There are a number of 348 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,680 different charges, federal charges and state charges. This is in 349 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,960 the state court today, but you heard Paul Morrow talking 350 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,279 about the fact that all these things that were suppressed 351 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:45,119 can't come into the trial in the state court. The 352 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,799 federal judge has already said, sure, you can bring that 353 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,839 stuff in, so the federal trial they'll have different amissibility, 354 00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:56,799 which just seems strange to me that you can the 355 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,039 United States justice system allows it in the federal corporate 356 00:22:01,079 --> 00:22:03,559 not in the state court, or does it say something 357 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:06,720 about New York and the rules. He even mentioned the 358 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,839 fact that in Pennsylvania the search and caizar laws are 359 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,240 different than they are in New York, which should not 360 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,279 be a patchwork in our nation. But back to Parlim 361 00:22:17,599 --> 00:22:18,920 a little more from Paul Morrow. 362 00:22:20,319 --> 00:22:25,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, understand that police procedures and law in Pennsylvania different 363 00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:29,200 and more permissive for law enforcement than in New York. 364 00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:31,880 Here they're applying the New York law. So you have 365 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,240 to allow for that. They got there. They moved a 366 00:22:35,279 --> 00:22:38,480 bag away from him for their own safety. You can 367 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:41,200 do that. But at that point, under New York law, 368 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,519 this judge decided you should have froze the scene and 369 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,680 got a search warrant. Now it's a long decision, and 370 00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:49,440 I have to confess that we just got out of court. 371 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: I literally just walked out. 372 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 6: I haven't had a chance to read the whole decision, 373 00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:55,480 so I'm kind of giving a summary for the audience. 374 00:22:55,799 --> 00:23:00,480 I'm curious curious as to why, even with the having 375 00:23:00,519 --> 00:23:04,200 been moved away from Luigi and he couldn't grab it, 376 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,160 that nonetheless the police didn't have the right to look 377 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,359 through it at the scene because they're gonna transport that 378 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,839 in a car police card to the precinct. What if 379 00:23:13,839 --> 00:23:16,720 there's a bomb in it, then generally, if you can 380 00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:21,519 articulate that kind of circumstance, you can inventory at the scene. 381 00:23:21,839 --> 00:23:24,799 That's not how this went. There's a lot of narrative 382 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,960 in a decision that goes through who showed up, what 383 00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:31,079 they said on the police side, what the discussion among 384 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,759 them was. So the judge must have decided that they 385 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:37,440 had come to the conclusion that the bag was safe 386 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,440 and they shouldn't have kept looking through it. That's my 387 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,200 read as to why he came to that decision. But 388 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,000 certainly the inventory search is coming in. That means they 389 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:49,480 did that right, and that means their key evidence. And 390 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,559 there's another piece to this. I should mention corrections also 391 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,359 did the right thing here as well. Once he was 392 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,680 in custody as of nine forty seven am, he was mirandized. 393 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,559 Anything subsequent to that's not coming in because he has 394 00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:08,480 a right to an attorney, and so any statements he 395 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:11,920 makes that are elicited by the police no good. However, 396 00:24:12,319 --> 00:24:18,000 he made spontaneous statements two corrections subsequent to that, including 397 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,960 talking about the contents of his bag, including the three 398 00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:25,440 D gun, saying it's a three D printed gun, which 399 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,480 is obviously a rare item. So his mouth gets him 400 00:24:28,519 --> 00:24:30,799 in trouble as well. Apparently he seems to have been 401 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,079 bragging a little bit while he was locked up. So 402 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,079 all of that stuff's coming in I think will win 403 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,519 for the prosecute in the federal court. The first time 404 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:42,880 I saw him, I have to say he came in 405 00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:46,759 it felt to me a little attitudinal already hadn't shaved, 406 00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:49,559 He had a strut. He kind of looked around the courtroom. 407 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,680 It was almost a little bit of an air of defiance. 408 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,640 I didn't get that this time, recognize something the decision 409 00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:58,519 that was released literally while I was sitting in the 410 00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:03,680 courtroom boats the prosecution and defense got this morning, which 411 00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:08,160 means he already knew the import of that decision. So 412 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,440 I have a feeling that had he been feeling cocky previously, 413 00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:13,480 some of that might have got knocked out of him 414 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,200 because he realizes the key evidence, including statements he may 415 00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:20,599 are going to be coming into the case and they 416 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,359 don't help them. 417 00:25:21,599 --> 00:25:23,519 Speaker 2: So he didn't look at the gallery. 418 00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 6: He has this thing where he doesn't shave, so he 419 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,079 always comes in looking five o'clock shadow a little spruffy today. 420 00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:31,839 He had a suit on, unlike the federal system where 421 00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:34,000 he had the fatigue, you know, the orange fatigues on. 422 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,279 But he won't look at the gallery. He does seem engaged. 423 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:39,480 They don't keep them along there. He comes in, they 424 00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:41,440 do what they do, They get them right out. So 425 00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:43,599 this does air a little bit of get them out 426 00:25:43,599 --> 00:25:46,920 of here, because if you recall, in the federal case, 427 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,440 he had an outburst where he says something about double jeopardy. 428 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:54,480 And interestingly, those statements are now on the t shirts 429 00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:57,039 of his supporters down here on Center Street. 430 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, and those supporters, as much as they're weird because 431 00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:07,960 they're wearing little costumes and everything else, it's bizarre. But 432 00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:14,400 the thing about them, they're not saying that Luigi is innocent. 433 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,680 What they're saying is that the shooting in the back 434 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,839 three times of the CEO was justified. 435 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 6: Well, one of the things that I apologize for the 436 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,759 noise there outside of court. There's a lot of emergency 437 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,440 vehicles here. But one of the things I would mention 438 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:39,039 is the import of suppressing the phone and the computer 439 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,839 chip because while they have this other evidence against Luigi, 440 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,319 were you going to expand this case to any co conspirators. 441 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,039 Now you have a little trouble with that because the 442 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,799 phone a computer chip. That's the kind of stuff you 443 00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:56,480 would use as a cop to start digging into this 444 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,799 thing and say, with somebody else involved, did you have 445 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,880 some help? And I have to tell you, in light 446 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,839 of his background, I continue to wonder when did he 447 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,559 get a three D printed gun that actually worked? So 448 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:12,079 I think there were still some questions remaining in this case, 449 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,799 and my gut tells me they're in the digital world. 450 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,079 Speaker 2: That digital world has been. 451 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,839 Speaker 6: For the most part suppressed in the immediate case here 452 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:20,559 on state court. 453 00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: Now, however, that has not been suppressed in the federal court. 454 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,680 So it's going to be interesting to see how that 455 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,680 worked out. But I mean, I can't imagine. I don't 456 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,680 care how cocky he is. He's got to know they've 457 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,559 got him sixteen ways from Sunday. I mean, this guy 458 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:42,920 is as guilty as sin. But I guess if you've 459 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,480 got a really big ego, you think I can get 460 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:49,680 away with murdering people on this sidewalk and everybody will 461 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,200 forgive me because it was an insurance company executive. Well, 462 00:27:54,599 --> 00:27:57,839 a little bit of politics we've got, like I said 463 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,720 at the beginning of Bill Cassidy, doctor Bill Cassidy is 464 00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:04,519 going to be going back, presumed to his medical practice 465 00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:09,279 because at the end of the year he's done being 466 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,000 a Senator from Louisiana. And it really shows. I mean, 467 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,240 he came in with twenty five percent of the vote. 468 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,839 There were two Republicans who beat him, and one of 469 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,720 them was endorsed by Donald Trump, the other one was not, 470 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,759 but they both beat him. Louisiana is a very red 471 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,799 state and they are mad at Cassidy about the fact 472 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:38,799 that he voted for impeachment on the impeachment two point 473 00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:44,680 zero back during Trump one point oh. So it also 474 00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:50,200 shows because I think Cassidy is a good senator, smart guy, 475 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:56,319 makes pretty good decisions, very conservative, but he crossed Donald Trump. 476 00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:58,839 And one of the things that is still true today 477 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,839 is it was when Trump first came down the escalator 478 00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:05,039 is if you cross him, he is going to come 479 00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:11,079 after you. And so far he has been extremely successful. 480 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:17,720 He just went after the state of Iowa in the 481 00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,640 state senators there, he got four out of the five 482 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,720 that he put up primary opposition, and now this and 483 00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:31,480 then tomorrow in Kentucky is a primary Thomas Massey, who 484 00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:34,480 has gone up against Donald Trump a couple of different times, 485 00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:38,200 very outspoken. He's been pushing for the Epstein files and 486 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,519 things like that, and Trump has already primaried him with somebody. 487 00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:47,920 We'll see how that works out tomorrow in Kentucky. But meantime, 488 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,039 here's well, here's a little clip from Tom Massey. 489 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,759 Speaker 2: And if you lose, what message with that said? 490 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 7: If I lose, I think it's going to disenfranchise a 491 00:29:57,319 --> 00:29:59,359 large part of the coalition that was formed to give 492 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,759 us the majority here and to give us the White House. 493 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,400 I'm holding up the Maha wing of the party, the 494 00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:10,440 privacy warrant for spying wing of the party, the less 495 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,000 war wing of the party. If I'm gone, I think 496 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:17,759 you showed that the tent has significantly been diminished, and 497 00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:20,920 we'll make winning the majority harder in the fall. 498 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:25,599 Speaker 1: So Harry Enton, the statistician, did some looking back at 499 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:31,279 surveys on how politicians do when they're incumbents usually are 500 00:30:31,359 --> 00:30:34,960 re elected, and as far as Tom Massey goes versus 501 00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:37,240 Donald Trump, here's a little bit from Harry. 502 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 8: To put it mildly, I don't think that Donald Trump 503 00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:43,079 likes Thomas Massey, And if you look at the prediction markets, 504 00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:44,880 it looks like they may get their men. 505 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: They may get their man. 506 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 8: Look at this chance that Massy is in fact the 507 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:51,400 Kentucky for GOP nominee. It has been falling considerably over 508 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,000 the last ten days according to the cashbrit prediction market. 509 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,359 Look at this. It was seventy one percent ten days ago. 510 00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:59,359 Look where that number is now, it's forty four percent. 511 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,319 Chances more likely than not, though it is very close, 512 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,559 very close, that Massey will in fact go down to defeat. 513 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:09,559 But again we're just gonna have to wait and see 514 00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:12,200 the votes getting cast encountered because this is quite close. 515 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,720 But anytime an incumbent member of Congress goes down, he 516 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:18,799 has done something seriously wrong in the minds of the voters. 517 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,000 And in this case, if Massey goes down, it is 518 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,799 that he crossed Donald John Trump. Yeah, I think one 519 00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:25,440 of the things that people who are putting their money 520 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,319 where their mouths are seeing is seeing exactly what Johnny 521 00:31:28,319 --> 00:31:31,200 B said, which was so what happened in saw what 522 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,279 happened in Louisiana on Saturday. 523 00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:36,759 Speaker 2: And I went back and this is sort of just going. 524 00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 8: Back through the archives to see how bad Bill cassi did. 525 00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: He got twenty five percent of the vote. 526 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 8: Okay, I went back and I looked at every single 527 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:48,799 non in pointed, non appointed senator. This in my mind 528 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,480 was the worst primary showing ever at least since the 529 00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:53,920 end of World War Two. 530 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,799 Speaker 2: That is how Bill casts is how badly Bill Cassie did. 531 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 8: He think worse than every single one getting twenty five 532 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:03,839 percent of the vote in a for a senator. 533 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: And a primary, It's literally unheard of. 534 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,759 Speaker 8: And that is because, of course, Donald Trump endorsed against 535 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:13,079 this guy. You know, we've quoted the movie Good Burger 536 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,480 every single time basically when we've done this. When in fact, 537 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,799 you go against President Trump, you go on the grinder 538 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,200 and you could just see this times Trump endorsees have 539 00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:24,519 won in GOP primaries. It's about ninety five percent each 540 00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:27,240 of the last four cycles. Now, I will not you know, 541 00:32:27,319 --> 00:32:30,039 sometimes he endorses and there's no real challenger, But even 542 00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,799 in those cases, the challengers to the combent have won 543 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,839 a majority of the time as well. And one of 544 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,680 the key reasons why that is right is you look 545 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,039 at Trump's approval rating within the GOP twenty first century 546 00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:44,759 own party approval at this point in term two, he's 547 00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,680 still at eighty three percent. That's more popular than Obama 548 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,599 was with Democrats, way more popular than George W. Bush 549 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,000 was with Republicans back in two thousand and six. So 550 00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:56,039 the power of Trump endorsement is still sky high. And 551 00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:58,319 we'll see tomorrow if that happens with Thomas. 552 00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: Mass Well, it's much closer for Massey life Harry said, 553 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,079 to get re elected than it was for Bill Cassidy. 554 00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:09,680 Bill Cassidy just got crushed in Louisiana. So we have 555 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,920 a couple of late breaking stories. There's a shooting at 556 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,839 a Islamic mosque in San Diego or The early reports 557 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,799 are that two suspects in the shooting are dead and 558 00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:27,480 that a security guard was shot. Some reports say he's 559 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,640 in serious condition, others say he was killed as well. 560 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,079 So a shooting that brought out a million billion police 561 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:41,519 cars in their San Diego area at the Islamic mosque there. 562 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,119 And then the other which was another court case today, 563 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:52,000 Elon Musk sued Sam Altman because he said I put 564 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:56,000 the money up, I started Open AI, which he did. 565 00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:58,519 That's all true, and that it was supposed to be 566 00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:03,440 a nonprofit and that Altman took it and changed it 567 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,960 into a for profit and Musk is mad because he 568 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,920 said that money should have gone to charity. Well, they 569 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,800 had a couple of week trial and today the jury 570 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,440 came back and said Elon Musk were throwing your lead 571 00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:22,760 lawsuit out. That he did not succeed in suing Sam 572 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,679 Altman over at Open AI. So a big loss for Musk. 573 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,440 Wall Street today it was a mixed bag. The Dow 574 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,039 it was up one hundred and fifty nine, the Dow 575 00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:39,039 at forty nine thousand and six eighty six, the S 576 00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:42,519 and P fell five, the Nasdaq fell one hundred and 577 00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:46,079 thirty four. The price of gold was up seven dollars 578 00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:51,119 to four thousand and five sixty nine, and oil up 579 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:55,519 another dollar today, up at one hundred and six dollars 580 00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:00,679 and some change for one barrel of West Texas Intermediate crude. 581 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,480 Well that's it for today, Thank you for coming by. 582 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,400 We will be back again tomorrow and I hope you'll 583 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:06,719 see you. 584 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 6: Don