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Speaker 1: Weekend, let's welcome in our executive producer, Ronald the three
Man Weave or what's up Ronnie?
Speaker 2: How you living?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 6: Abby?
Speaker 3: Monday? And that is all I have to say.
Speaker 1: Okay, So it wasn't a great weekend for you. I
thought it was a great weekend for you, Ronnie.
Speaker 3: It was great weekend for my family.
Speaker 6: But as I was a good one.
Speaker 3: But my job takes over on the weekends. It's never
really any days off. And as I was sitting there,
I'm like, what in the world am I gonna plan
for Monday? I was like, well, you got Booboo Johnson
or Doodoo Stevens. Which one is it? I was like,
is it Booboo Johnson of that you allowed eighteen offensive rebounds?
Or is it you know, Doodoo Stevens. Of guys are
on tape now by national media members are cutting clips
and putting it and then other media members are trying
to defend it and say, well, we didn't know if
he was supposed to switch, when that wasn't the case.
And a guy starts to run on defense because he
got been and then he stops, and I'm like, yeah,
you can't defend it anymore.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't say you need to figure it out.
Speaker 6: We're gonna listen to the sound.
Speaker 3: Buddies Brother's Brother and you've been You've been trying to
figure it out for six weeks. You've been trying to
pass the test. You can't drop out of the class.
It's unfortunate. You can't get the withdrawal, you can't get
the incomplete. You're gonna have to finish this class and
get the best grade possible. If you're if you graduated
from BYU or took the class, you know, but you're pregnant.
This is American heritage, and that your final grade will
replace all the other exams that you have not passed
up until this point, and that will be your final grade.
Or Physical Science one hundred if you took that class too,
because at this point in the season, with the way
it's going, it looks like that you might not either
win a game the rest of the way and look
ben as it says today BYU takes on Utah in
the Big twelve Tournament. With the way Utah has played BYU,
I will say it over air, and I am fully
confident saying this, and the U fans might not come
for me. I fully believe that if BYU and Utah
matched up in the Big TWEF tournament today, Utah could
beat BYU. Yes, I just said it. And the reason
why I said it has nothing to do with talent.
But when talent doesn't work hard, it gets beat. And
that's what we've been seeing constantly, lacks of days ago effort.
I don't care. I have nothing positive that I can
really say because everything I've seen you have caused me
to speak negative. It's not me, it's you. I don't
want to speak negative, but I have to be objective.
And the objective metrics I see is I see bad behavior,
bad body language. I don't see effort, and I don't
know how you can fix that's I don't know if
it's a cultural thing. Chemistry's off, and it looks like
you don't want to be there. And it's sad because
the expectations at the beginning the season were great. I
get you got five injuries, but injuries have nothing to
do with effort, and effort is just not there.
Speaker 1: Injuries have nothing to do with effort. Is this the
mantra of the BYU fan base. I think it is.
I think it is because I asked the question in
the post. I said, how much grace do you give
a team that is still very talented, right, very talented,
still a talented squad, but has so many season ending injuries?
What type of leash do you give it? And time
and time again, the comments section just just was aggressively
and adamantly declaring that injuries have nothing to do with effort.
Speaker 2: This is a cultural issue.
Speaker 1: This is a maybe a coaching issue, This is a
player issue as well.
Speaker 2: Maybe these guys just don't like to play the game.
Speaker 1: Let's welcome in Brett always bringing the hammer, hammer, time,
show hammer.
Speaker 2: How there are you?
Speaker 7: If you want to get smart, to read a book,
if you want to get dumber, go on the internet.
Holy cow, the tomfoolery, the buffoonery, the idiocy, the hijinks,
all that was going on on the internet in our
own backyard from people who I wouldn't say we work
with because those people would have to be journalists for
me to say that about them, and they're not. This
is just I could not believe the amount of idiocy that.
I mean, look, there's dumb people on the internet. But man,
there were some people really fired up about a whole.
Speaker 6: Lot of nothing on the internet. And I get it.
People are upset about BYU.
Speaker 7: People are upset that bou had probably the highest expectations
maybe they've ever had, at least in the modern era,
and they're not gonna be able to live up to
those and it would require literally a miracle for them
to win more than two tournament games. But if you,
I don't feel bad for you. If you go on
the internet and you get fired up, I don't feel
bad that somebody rage made you. That's my statement for today,
because there were too many people upset about too many
things that honestly, if guess what, I didn't read it,
so I didn't get upset.
Speaker 1: Well, look, there's always gonna be the I mean, look,
they call them fanatics for a reason.
Speaker 6: Okay, some of those people also claim to be journalists.
Speaker 2: So could you give me, give me an example what's
going on?
Speaker 6: So did you see the alex Markham Spencer Lytton stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh I saw a little bit of it. I saw
a little bit of it. Yeah, So that and here's
the deal.
Speaker 7: I don't I don't know, Alex, I don't have anything,
but I'm like, I mute his tweets because they're not
things that I want to see. But then I see
all these BAYU fans getting fired up, and I'm like, look,
you you have an option on your phone that says, hey,
I don't have to see this if I don't want to,
you read it, and then you got fired up.
Speaker 6: That's on you and Catalyst.
Speaker 2: Was that happened?
Speaker 7: Alex Markham said something along the lines of that twenty
million dollar roster, that bill you paid for really crumbled,
which I.
Speaker 6: Mean, good on him for good wordplay, good writing. And
then I don't.
Speaker 7: Know how Spencer got dragged into it, but him and
Spencer kind of went back did he quote?
Speaker 1: Did Alex initially quote tweet something from No No that
tweet specifically Alex put out on his own.
Speaker 7: My guess is Alex reached out to Spencer. I didn't
look at it enough. That was just the initial tweet,
and then they ended up going back and forth about it,
and Spencer basically said like, that's not the number. I
know what the number is and that's not it. And
so then everyone's saying, oh, Spencer doesn't know what he's
talking about, and you just had a lot of BYU
fans who were really upset about it, and I was
just like, I get it. And then you added adding
in what Ron's talking about, you have media members fighting
about whether it was a switch or it wasn't a switch,
and they have former players who were like, hey, this
is exactly what it was. And it was just like,
I think, as media people, like we understand the world
that we live in. And I said this to Ron,
I'm like, look, we have our opinions, but if Jonathan
Tabernari wants to come in here and give them the
technicality of like, oh that was designed to be a
switch or that wasn't designed to be who.
Speaker 6: Am I to argue with the guy who actually knows ball?
Speaker 7: And so I just think in this world that we're
living in, like you got to understand who you're talking to,
what credibility that person has, and what they're going for,
whether that person's a rage beator, whether that person's a
former player who actually has knowledge. But like not, I
guess what I'm saying is not all opinions are created equal.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, I mean, look obviously the twenty million if
if that's what the debate was about it.
Speaker 2: It's a little high, Like, I don't think what is
the payroll for BYU?
Speaker 6: Though?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I feel like if.
Speaker 6: It was twenty million.
Speaker 7: I don't want to be disrespectful, but I feel like
if it was twenty million, you would have more guys
on the roster.
Speaker 6: What do you mean, like more talent, you have a
deeper wealth of talent. I think if you were spending
twenty million, that's just my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, yeah, I think you I'd look. I think
that's a high high number. And I think that's probably
what Spencer was most likely debating.
Speaker 3: And I'm jumping in here. I think between aj Rob
and Ritchie you're probably paying about ten million.
Speaker 6: But yeah, let's just keep your ten million for the rest.
Speaker 3: And I was just gonna say so, so you'd think
between Dawson Baker, Nate Pickens and the other guys out
and other guys, there is another ten million? Are we
being serious?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 3: But also that's just true.
Speaker 7: That comment shouldn't offend a single by you fan because again,
whether or not it's true or not, whether or not
it's twenty million, guess what last time I checked, it's
legal to pay players. So even if it is twenty million,
there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 6: So that's the other reason why I'm like, I don't
understand why Bulia fans are upset about that.
Speaker 1: Well, what I'll say is this the top tier programs.
I think this has been widely reported. The top tier
programs in college basketball are in that eight to ten
to maybe at most twelve million dollar range on their roster.
Speaker 2: I don't think it. It's it's higher than I bet you.
Speaker 1: It's probably around that ten million, and that's a lot
of money. You're you're a top tier roster. So I'll
give Alex some grace. He hyperbole aside, like, we we
all know, and we.
Speaker 2: May get an email, we may get it.
Speaker 1: We all know that we have allocated a significant amount
of resources to this basketball team, not only as players
but as coaches.
Speaker 2: Would we agree with that. Nobody's working for free. No
one's working for free.
Speaker 1: The strength staff they were in the NBA, the nutrition
staff they were in the NBA. You look at how
many assistants and analysts and developer, Like, there's a lot
of coaches on this staff. It's two to one coach
or administrator to player. Chief of staff you know, general manager,
all those things. So we know we've allocated a lot
of money. Unfortunately it has not met the expectation up
to this point. Now the season goes on, they could
still go to a Sweet sixteen. And if you coupled
the the the injuries and a sweet sixteen run, you're like,
you know what, we'll take it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we'll tell you at hartbeat A one and done.
Speaker 1: Like you may change quota, and you may say, look
round of thirty two quota overachieving now is sweet sixteen.
But BA fans just want to get to the tournament
right now and maybe hopefully fingers crossed win a game.
They are up in arms because the they know to
a certain degree, how much like the resources that have
been allocated to this roster, to the coaching staff, and
it's fell short up to this point. AJ hasn't fell short, Nope,
and in many ways Rob hasn't offensively, but defensively he
has right, So look, I think what happens in these cases.
Remember when you have consecutive losses like this, I hate
to say it, but like those that are intertwined heavily
with byu PR, they're gonna go end up and fight
in a public relations way, right like, and I think
that's where I think Spencer came is like, look, I'm
not gonna allow lies to be disseminated. I'm gonna go
fight it. What was it Robbie McCombs was debating with.
Speaker 6: Carter Bond Chase Rogers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chase, ro Look, Look there's a competitive element there.
You know, Robbie's the basketball guy, I think, which the foe.
Carter and Chase are probably trying to get you know,
they they're they're basketball guys too, and they're kind of
on the ends with some of the staff, Justin and others.
Like everyone has like their sources, Everyone has their guys
that that's feeding them a certain amount of information. You
want to be respectful of those things. But there's there's competition,
there's debate.
Speaker 2: To me, I'm not a.
Speaker 1: Blocker or a muter unless like you're like just abrasively
like anonymously aggressive, and you're you're part of the dregs
of a fan base, which there's plenty of those amongst
the U fan base, and I'm sure there's plenty within
the b A fan base that they're like the lowest
common denominator people I tend to like and invite all conversations.
Speaker 2: I want to hear it all.
Speaker 6: I'm with you.
Speaker 7: I'm just not with rage baiting and and I'm not
against like I just don't personally want to see Alex's tweets.
It's not for me, so I viewed it, but you
don't like it's not for me yea other people.
Speaker 2: It's just not for But I would say.
Speaker 1: The basis the base thesis of his comment, even though
it's it's it's two x more than what our payroll is,
what Bi's payroll is. Uh is still sound. We have
spent top to your money and received above average to
good results.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Above average of good.
Speaker 1: Results up to this point and and the the common
by the way, doesn't.
Speaker 2: BYU is out of the top twenty five now for
the first time all.
Speaker 6: Season, which is unreal. Do we think that was gonna happen?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: No, I don't think there's no world.
Speaker 7: I thought like, hey, maybe you lose a couple of
games in Big twelve play and you have a rough
schedule and you get into the twenties. I don't think
we thought there was any planet on which BYU fell
out of the top twenty five. Now, I guess the
silver lining, if there is one, is that BYU was
the number one team in terms of others receiving votes.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that does anything for anybody.
Speaker 7: So I think the rest of the country still has
like a little bit hope. I think nationally basketball has
more hope in BYU than BYU fans have in BA.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So BYU falls out of the top twenty five for
the first time this season. Why they lost to West
Virginia seventy nine to seventy one.
Speaker 2: They're out.
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Speaker 2: What happened? Right?
Speaker 1: So, West Virginia control the game for most of the
finals twenty seven minutes or so.
Speaker 2: They held off on eate Bau push as they always do.
Speaker 1: It seems all these teams they hold off BYU rob
right the third head what twenty three points? AJ had
twenty points combined for forty three collectively. The Cougar struggled
with turnovers, rebounding, offensive droughts, and just lack of like
defensive effort.
Speaker 2: Quite honestly.
Speaker 1: The loss drops bo you to twenty nine and out
of the top twenty five and eight and eight in
the Big Twelve, continuing a difficult stretch where the Cougars
have lost eight of their last twelve games.
Speaker 2: It is crazy. That's why the spiral.
Speaker 1: Everyone's beginning to not believe in this team because they
are so consistently average to above average, right, that's what
they've been consistently. If you're gonna describe the Cougar basketball
team the Cougar case right now, they're just like consistently
average and AJ hasn't been I think for the most
part offensively He's been really good and has shown his
elite nature and he very well could be could end
up if he finishes out to two really strong games here,
he could end up being the Big twelve player of
the year. I think that's still on the docket. But
at times, bo you played well, but not consistently. The
Cougar's built a twenty two to twenty lead midway through
the first half behind strong guard play, you know, and
outside shooting Alexi Coastik looked to be in rhythm.
Speaker 2: But what happened was Bau did not.
Speaker 1: Make a field goal for the final eight minutes of
the first half.
Speaker 2: Eight minute drought.
Speaker 1: And do you put that on the players or do
you put that eight minute drought on the players of
the coaches?
Speaker 2: Guys? What do you put that eight minute drought on?
Right now?
Speaker 1: Ronnie, you're watching this game? Do you put it all
the players of the coaches? Like I feel like you
may want to put it a little bit on the coaches.
When you're in a drought, you gotta get an easy bucket.
You gotta find a way to get somebody involved. You
gotta change something up, and I felt like they really didn't.
Speaker 2: West Virginia is a good defensive team. By the way,
they're good.
Speaker 6: Okay, they're the worst team offensively in the Big.
Speaker 2: But they're the worst team offensively. To pick the tell.
Speaker 3: Well, here's here's my thing. I think after after three minutes,
it's on the coaches, but up until that point, it's
on the players. Like like, I'm gonna give sixty percent
of the account of built, well, seventy percent of the
coach is in thirty percent to the players. Now I'm
gonna give people a little per perspective. It's an NBA coach.
He's also said at this time of the season, they
got to figure it out on the court. So there
you go. The one Doc Rivers would never call the timeout.
He would let his guys die and figure it out
and do that. Now this is college. You cannot do that.
They are gonna be people who are on this coach.
I hear you relaxed. Don't come for me, because I
will come for you. But what I'm saying is that
I think there is a point of a player like, look,
I'm just gonna say it. Rob's already been ripped. We're
gonna keep ripping them. You cannot drive to the basket
when you get a ball in transition and be like, oh, okay,
I met my right hand, my strength and drive as
I don't believe you're six to one. By the way,
I'm just gonna put that out there on a six
foot seven dude, get contact, not get a call, and
then you missed the shot in its twenty four seconds
left on the shot clock. You take a two on one.
You don't do that. Mahilo was disappointing passed about ag
on the too on one. You can't miss that shot anyway.
But that's the problem, Ben, Like you can't like that
was happening in the drought. When you're shooting bad shots
early in the shot clock, that's on players, it's not
on a coach. And then after they're tired and it
gets that way, then it's on the coach and Kevin
Young should have called the time out. But look, there's
frustration probably between players with themselves, with players in their teammates, teammates,
and the coaching staff. Coaching staff on the players, and
that's what leads to that eight minute drought. Like you
know what happen And may I remind you of another
team that had an eight minute drought years ago. Mark Pope.
When Ba you played Utah, you know what Boa did
with doing that eight minute drought get back in the
game when they held Utah because of effort, it was
just effort. The defense was not great, they still filed
in that, but effort. That's what it comes down to.
And I just it was eight minutes of just probably
the most unacceptable basketball that they played this season. Like, honestly,
I'm gonna say this that that eight minute stretch and
I know that the UCF game it was just no defense.
This that eight minute drought band was probably the worst
that they played because they just looked defeated for the
first time. I think I can say that confidently that
they just looked defeated and they had nowhere to go.
Aj didn't know what to do. Rob didn't know what
to do. Alexi like they all is okay, but they
all just look lost in a place that is difficult
to play. Coliseum has Hardben. But it was just that
that was probably the worst they minute of basketball that
I think they played this season.
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Look Offensively, Rob Wright was good in the first half.
I mean, he's great offensive player, he's a defensive liability.
I think we can all agree on that. I think
everyone sees it, everyone knows it, and I'm pretty sure
that the coaching staff knows it.
Speaker 2: What do we do with it? Though? What do you
do right now?
Speaker 1: Let's get into let let's go to break. We'll come
back with all the sound. Get Kwy's thoughts on it
and AJ and Rob. The one good thing about this,
My only silver lining in this game is that Ky
and the post game had AJ and Rob next to him,
and and was open and fourth right about how atrocious
the defense was, how poor the rebounding was.
Speaker 2: The effort is just.
Speaker 1: Just non existent. And but like, I don't know if
it changes behavior.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: That that Rob I don't think cares that he's not
good at defense.
Speaker 2: No, I just don't think he cares, Like he just
doesn't care.
Speaker 7: It is weird, though, because that's this is the first
time we've seen Rob at the podium in a while.
It's been a while since he been up there because
if you remember, they.
Speaker 2: Had to the leading score, they had to put him
out there.
Speaker 7: He had a twenty point game last game when they
lost the UC.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he wasn't there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he wasn't the leading scorer. Yeah, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 6: I mean he was only the leading scorer by three points.
Speaker 1: I know, but like but I think they they're they
were hoping, praying like they were they were hoping him praying,
Like with Mahilo, that volume in minutes would bring something
out of him.
Speaker 2: He'd he like he'd come.
Speaker 1: He'd come out there like a little fat caterpillar and
just you blossom out of the cocoon like a beautiful butterfly.
Speaker 2: Same thing with Coastick.
Speaker 1: They're just hoping he finds confidence, swagger, ability, like he's
got ability. Like they're just hoping that, hoping that he
has some confidence and swagger and productivity. And like so
they put him out there in front of the media
like hey, you're a guy now, You're a guy now.
Speaker 2: And he's he's seen the huge upticking minutes.
Speaker 1: But you know he had that great steel, he gets
hitting shots, had the great steal and then like takes
fifteen steps Epps can't take.
Speaker 10: The gather.
Speaker 6: Basketball guys, European basketball.
Speaker 3: You guys watched the Super Bowl, right, you both did?
Like that shows galloped and.
Speaker 1: That shows you like he's never been in those situations.
What I like, what those young men need like they
need to be coached up in a much more linear fashion.
Speaker 6: What do you mean by that?
Speaker 1: What I mean by that is some people need to
be told exactly what to do and when to do it,
and otherwise or others. You can put them out there
and they kind of just get into a rhythm and
feel even though they lack a little bit big seriens,
and they just start playing. Right with Kostick, you have
to tell him after you get a steal, what is
it that you're best at, Alexi?
Speaker 2: What are your best at?
Speaker 1: That dude only knows how to shoot, Like if he
has the purest shot, I have seen it in a
long while at Vway you it's more pure and in
rhythm and smooth, I think than Trevin. Now, I really
believe that Trevin is a little bit more like. I
mean Richie's as smooth too. Richie's is very nice, but costick.
When he's in rhythm, it is a thing of beauty.
How pure his mechanics are. Pull up from three Alexi
and transition, just pull, just pull, baby, don't.
Speaker 2: Even go to the rim.
Speaker 1: Because when he dribbles and he passes, how many times
have we seen him turn the ball over because he.
Speaker 3: Just he just doesn't handle.
Speaker 1: But when he shoots, I'm like, that thing's going in,
like every time he releases it, even though like I
know he airballed that one. It was a higher, higher
pressure situation late in the game and it was contested.
But like I'll take a Lexi pulling up catching shoot
off the bounce dribble even semi contes because it's so pure,
just shoot the damn ball. But I would tell him
to just pull up, Dude, he wasn't even because he
did have a defender there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess, but he got there. Like yeah, in principle,
I like, but that's the.
Speaker 1: Reason why he didn't know if he was going to pass.
Speaker 2: Or lay it in. He didn't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know how to make decisions. That's what I'm
getting in he made it traveled, He traveled because he
didn't make the decision. He's like, I don't know if
I'm gonna finish or if I'm gonna dish this. But
if he makes the decision to finish, like he's get
if he if he just makes the damn decision, he yeah,
he gets there. But like my automatic, like with the Alexi,
I'm like don't even worry about layups.
Speaker 2: Just shoot the J. Just shoot it. Just shoot it
baby in transition.
Speaker 1: Anyway, that's my thought process with Alexi, Like, don't let
him make decisions.
Speaker 2: He's not built to make decisions. He's just not even
in that.
Speaker 1: It was a great defensive effort, fantastic when you get
the ball in your hands, I just want you to
let it fly, Alexi, Just let it fly.
Speaker 2: What do you got for me, Ronnie.
Speaker 3: Here's your thing and maybe this will prove to your point.
Alexi Kostic has played over twenty minutes is for my
boy Owen Chapman, by the way, just three minutes this year.
His numbers in those games when he plays plus twenty
minutes thirteen point seven points per game. He's thirteen of
twenty five from three plus fifty in category.
Speaker 2: So there you, bro, I'm telling you, just shoot the J.
Dude like g.
Speaker 1: Shooter, Like he is so pure in his shot, like
and he's got a good handle like he does like
he's got a great baseline skill set.
Speaker 2: He is so he lacks so much confidence.
Speaker 1: I don't know who yelled at him since like he
started playing basketball. Who instilled like the fear of failure
in him. But he outside of shooting like he lacks
confidence outside when he but when he shoots it, I'm like,
dude that he he knows, he knows how to shoot
the Jay.
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the ky AJ debots and Rob right the right, Rob
right the third sound post game after West Virginia, Kevin,
what was your take of the game and the effort level?
Then the previous game against UCF.
Speaker 8: It was a joke.
Speaker 12: In the first half, it was it was a joke,
but the whole half, but you know, they went on
that flurry and it was, uh just some of the
clips we watched at halftime were just inexcusable. So I
thought our guys responded at halftime, uh and brought better
effort in the second half.
Speaker 8: It was a joke.
Speaker 6: It was a joke.
Speaker 7: We need that like clip as like it's the hot
key that we could just play, yeah, because that isn't
incredible and.
Speaker 2: Save that to the log or whatever, save it to
the Yeah. Yeah, so it was a joke.
Speaker 6: It was a joke.
Speaker 1: So, like, I just wonder how impactful the words of
k Y are to the current leadership AJ and Rob,
who were sitting right next to him, Like, I just wonder, like,
you know, how remember when your dad said to you,
look you in the eye and said, I'm not mad,
I'm disappointed.
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed. You're like, oh, man, I'm just man. You know.
Speaker 1: Like Rob's over there, like you say I'm disappointed, and
He's like, I gaff, okay, it gaff.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I in AJ too, Like I don't know if like
you can like I feel like I feel like the disappointment,
Like there's no disappointment in these kids. There's like there's
no think AJ is disappointed. Yeah, I think so, maybe
possibly more so than others.
Speaker 7: I think he he because I do think AJ gives
off some I don't want to say bad body language
because I don't want to put him in the group
of other people, but I do think you see just
a little bit of defeated energy with AJ, and I
think it's different. I think AJ is defeated because he
feels like he's trying really hard and he wants it
to work. But I wonder if he feels like he's
the only person who's trying to make it work. And
that's different from yeah, man, I just don't care.
Speaker 6: I'm too cool for school.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I think the struggle that maybe Kate why
has this is my opinion. Obviously, the offense has been
really good, and the offense has been good because of
the talent.
Speaker 2: Know it's the chicken or the egg? Is it off?
Speaker 1: Is the offense really good because of the scheme or
is it because of the town. This is a pro
style scheme that they're running in these offensive sets, and
sometimes when you get into these offenses, like it's going
to translate for aj Aj is going to be a
better suited for the NBA because of what he's experienced.
Speaker 2: In in in.
Speaker 1: The Ky architecture and structure, but it's not always best
for college basketball. And the shot selection that he's getting
where he's trying so hard to get a shot and
then he's looking for a foul and then and then
he and he does kind of get fouled but doesn't
get the call. That is extremely frustrated for him, and
we saw a lot of that versus West Virginia and
we've seen that at other times when he's not getting calls,
he's not getting calls, and so I think that's been
a bit of a struggle for him and that's been
frustrating for him and for fans that are watching, like, Okay,
why why do you keep on going to ISO basketball?
Speaker 2: Why do you keep doing that? It's not an easy
it's not an easy bucket.
Speaker 1: I think it's really hard for k Why to step
outside of that that that the infrastructure and scheme and
architecture and say, Okay, we're gonna do it a different way.
Speaker 2: And it's hard to do that in the middle of
a game.
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that in game prep too, because
you have your your sets that you've been playing these
entire this entire emotional offense and your your offensive sets
that you've been playing the entire year. So I don't
have the answer. All I'm saying is I think that's
the reality.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: We finally did see BYU basketball in the NCAA Tournament
last year hit a stride, but it was because Jegor
was hitting us ride and you had all these these
guys around him that were great, I believe great complimentary
pieces to Yegor, and unfortunately we just don't have the
complimentary pieces right now that are consistent enough. Uh, and
our defense is still poor. So when our offense is
lacking and our in our defense sucks and the effort sucks,
then we get down once again. Kevin, you guys had
another first half. Why does that keep happening?
Speaker 8: Different reasons every game.
Speaker 12: This game, it was our decision making, driving in the crowd,
turn the ball over, not getting shots on goal. When
we did what we were supposed to do on offensively,
we actually we did a decent enough job, and then
the defensive intensity was abysmal, like I said, in the
first half.
Speaker 8: So those two factors got us off to that start.
Speaker 2: Decision making effort, just poor shot selection. It's a joke.
It's a joke.
Speaker 6: It's a joke.
Speaker 2: It's a joke.
Speaker 1: So it's something different, he said. The first half woes
are something different every single time. Agreer disagree with that.
Agreer disagree that it's something different each game.
Speaker 7: I think it's really hard to play great offense when
you know you have to play perfect defense. And what
I mean by that is we keep joking around about
how it just feels like everyone who plays BYU has
a career day, whether it's on or huff, whether it's
the like everybody has. Somebody has a career day against BYU. Well,
the reason is because you're not defending.
Speaker 1: And then when you don't defend and then you make
a mistake on offense, now you're doubled down in the
hole and you have to climb out of a hole
that's even larger. So I do believe schematically, to the
eyes of Kevin Young, the coach, it's a different reason
every game. The overarching reason, however, they can have small
off shoots off of it is you're not playing great
defense and so then you have to be perfect on offense.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, getting back to it.
Speaker 8: It was a joke the first half it was. It
was a joke.
Speaker 1: It's always a joke at the first coach your thoughts
on the late game execution down the strets, B was
in this B YU was they were in it again
like fake fakedal oh it's our and then they just
crap the bed.
Speaker 2: Bad decisions, I mean.
Speaker 1: Lack of effort, bad passes, turnovers, lack of rebounding.
Speaker 6: It's just insane, Like.
Speaker 1: I can't believe Kevin didn't get that rebound. I can't
believe aj turned the ball over. I can't believe it.
Like she didn't come to the ball anyway. Coach, your
thoughts on the late game execution down the stretch.
Speaker 12: Offensively was fine, Defensively was a disaster.
Speaker 2: Defensively it was a disaster.
Speaker 6: He's already used the word joke twice, abysmal and disaster
so far in this Prescot great adjectides. What what did
you like?
Speaker 2: Silver line? What'd you like from Alexi Costick off the bench.
Speaker 8: Making? Yeah, I mean he's a guy that can space
the floor for us. Uh.
Speaker 12: He's tough too. I think he brings a little bit
of an edge. So he's a guy you know giving this.
You know the state our team's in. You know his
his ability to space the floor is important.
Speaker 2: You know what I want to do with Alexi? I
want him? No, No, I I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can totally well, you can hang out with Trevin.
Trevent's got a lot of confidence. One thing I love
about Trevin He's competitor, high energy, belief in himself. Like
I love the mentality of Trevinell totally agree with you there,
Like hang out as much as you can with Trevinell
all day, every day, the same way like Shooter shoots right,
like like Jonathan like loves himself. Trevin loves himself like Alexi,
I'm not sure loves himself. Does that make sense? Like
hang out with those guys all the time. But like
the other thing I want him to do is like
I thought of like the Cool Runnings. Did you guys
ever watch Cool Runnings? We get we just got done
with that Winter Olympics. Cool Runnings?
Speaker 2: Uh, like the best speech. I see pride, I see power.
Speaker 1: I see a bad m effort that's that doesn't take
no crap from nobody, Like Alexi needs to look at
himself in the mirror and say I'm good enough, I'm
smart enough, like Doug go at people like me, you know,
type of thing like I see pride, I see power.
I see someone who doesn't care, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Just go after it.
Speaker 1: If he flips the switch, Alexis could be a game
changer for by one offensively and like we're seeing like grit,
uh physicality, some good on ball defense from Alexi that
rip at half court that ended up being in travel.
I mean I was like were you guys all like
in shock and awe, like when he ripped it, No oh, Alexi, yes,
and so anti climactic No, Alexei and Alexi throws his
arms up in the air and you can just see
the the disappointment and he's like, oh that was that
was a missed opportunity, and that that fear and that
insecurity comes out right. He's on the brink of finding
himself though, And that's why I say from the prior sagment,
like just keep shooting the baby, just let it rain,
I see pride.
Speaker 3: To answer your question, Ben, no, I wasn't surprised because
he's done that a handful of times. He posts the ball. No,
he like in I can't remember the Iowa State game,
but he ripped I can't remember who it was up
like twice from behind where he just got the ball stripped.
And like he's got active hands that are actually really
underrated because of that six or four lengthen. Look, people
gonna think I'm not I'm not trying to give this
person a straight but that's what people wanted dall On
Hall to do with that size and lengthen hands. They
wanted him to be able to get deflections like that.
Down had a different skill set because he's got a
better handle. But Ben, look, I'm yes, Alexi's travel is bad,
but guess what I'm I'm gonna be worse here I was.
I was more disappointed in Mahilo. I can take Alexi's
travel to the bank. I cannot take Mahilo who decided actually,
I'm gonna go to the basket. But then I'm a
mister two on one with ajd Bonsa. And that's why
between two out when you look at tape, if you're
gonna take a two on one, bin and I'm pretty
sure Brett would back me up with aj there, and
you don't make the layup, you better start passing the ball.
You better start passing the ball.
Speaker 7: I'm telling you, I see a coming, I'm tossing it
to him and been he had an opportunity there.
Speaker 3: If he had an opportunity to pass it and he didn't,
I'm telling you, I know what they're gonna say. I've
played on the rugby team with dudes that won awards.
You know what the coach told me, Ron, I loved
that you wanted to score right there. I know you
wanted to score right therefor I love the effort and
I and I'm saying this, just walk back. I had
scored an actual game, right and I came back and
they said, great, try Ron, but what I need you
to do is I need to pass the ball to
the left. I was like, I was like, and then
I was like, okay, good and I did that and
then one game I didn't bin and got it. Like see,
that's why they told me to pass it because they
didn't want that to happen. Now, when we go back
and look at tape, I'm gonna get embarrassed. Oh this
mother fuck like that that I know that's gonna happen
to mihillis like, you have the top two pick and
you did what you said. I'm not gonna pass the ball. Oh, Alexi,
You're okay, brother. People, the travel you won't get killed for.
But the two on one I promise you, Mihilo is
gonna get ripped in film worse than you are.
Speaker 1: Kevin Young, what role did rebounding play in the outcome
versus West Virginia.
Speaker 12: Eighteen offensive rebounds? And we're usually really uh, we're actually
usually really good. We're one of the best teams in
the in the conference with that, but you know they
only turned those into fifteen second chance points. But every
time we had them on the ropes, it felt like
they got an offensive rebound that made it difficult.
Speaker 8: And look, I mean, you know we you know.
Speaker 12: I'm upset, obviously, I'm disappointed, but you know, you hold
their two top guys six or twenty three between I
believe between Huff and Eagle staff. You know, most nights
that's they're going to have a hard time winning. But
I thought Laura, it was Laurient, Moore and Thomas were
just men out there and they kicked our butt.
Speaker 8: Credit to them.
Speaker 6: Play.
Speaker 1: I am the lack of defensive rebounding on, Like what
do you what do you blame it on? What's our
pie chart of accountability? Look like here it was a joke,
you know what I mean? Like is this like like
who's coaching up rebounding?
Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean? Like who's coaching up technique?
Who's coaching up effort?
Speaker 3: Works with the big man? Because he works with Kapus,
that might fall on him.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I don't know, like when I
see lack of effort and like there's no accountability. You
know what I think of like, like I've been around
enough teams to kind of feel like I can diagnose this.
Like I'm not gonna say this is official.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: This is just us talking radio heads. Okay, this is
radio it stalking. I think every one of these coaches
is a player's coach. Yeah, I think every one of
these coaches is a players coach. I think they just
all want to be liked all like, this is an NBA,
this is a pro system, and everyone just you don't.
Speaker 2: Have to coach kids hard. We're not supposed to coach.
Speaker 6: Is still that way.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: I think all the coaches in general want to be liked.
This is a pro organization. We don't coach hard. We
don't coach in a way that hurts feelings and gets
people riled up, because then they transfer, or then they
have a bad experience, and then there's bad pr and
then they're talking poorly about BYU, and they're talking about
they're talking talking poorly about a particular coach.
Speaker 2: All of that. Remember, this is a player's game.
Speaker 1: Now, they have all the power they just do. They're
getting the money, they're getting the power, okay, and they
wield much more power in the locker room in day
to day practices than you may think.
Speaker 2: It's just that, it's just where it's at.
Speaker 1: And like I said, the pendulum needed to swing this
way in order for it to kind of swing back.
It's gonna level set. That's what markets do, that's what
economies do. It'll swing back and there's gonna be a
balance here. But this is a this is a this
is not every one of these coaches I feel like
is a player's coach.
Speaker 2: Meaning it's nice, it's comfortable.
Speaker 3: We'll been hoping again. Then I'm gonna say this then okay,
that's fine. If they want to do that, that's fine.
Kevin Young, that's fine, the staff of Kevin Young, and
this is just ready head's talking. My response to that
would be okay. Then at this moment in time again,
this fluid. The list is fluid, like Stevin a uh
March second on a Monday family home and the audition
at two fifty one, ron Off the three man weaver yes,
or refer to myself, and a third person says, you
will never be like Kelvin Sampson because Kelvin Samson is
not a players. Do you see what Kelvin is?
Speaker 1: Well he's an accountability coach. I mean, he's definitely gonna
but he's but there's a difference right there. So like
what I'm saying is like and and and maybe this
is the point you're getting at here, like in film
like pulling up Rob wright lack of effort or Kepa's
lack of effort, like.
Speaker 2: And maybe it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Maybe if you have money, it very well could be
like I don't care anymore if you've got money.
Speaker 2: It's like that that uh that that uh.
Speaker 1: That that tournament that's like psychological thing that that that
occurs amongst many people. It's kind of like a hedonic
adaptation where you have everything you need therefore it doesn't
matter what the consequences are. Does that make sense that
it's this adaptation of like mindset where if k I
called out Rob right and said, do you believe and
I brought this up last week, Rob, You're not gonna
be able to play in the NBA.
Speaker 2: I don't care how much you score.
Speaker 1: If you play defense like this, no one's gonna draft you,
no one's gonna watch you. Like you think that's the case.
I don't know what you're thinking. And and and Rob
may be thinking. I don't care. You can call me
out all you want. I'm gonna go to the highest bind.
I'm gonna make a ton of money that's gonna set
me up and my family up for generations. I don't
really care if I play in the NBA because I'm
gonna make a ton of money the next two years
in college basketball.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: What's the motivating factor even when you call him out?
I don't know if it is because I don't see
that he cares. Keba not rebounding, Keba, You're gonna be
playing overseas, You're not playing in the NBA. You know,
I think Keba cares like I want to believe he cares,
but I think he's been injured. He had the concussion,
he had the hand. We've seen a drop off from him.
We've seen intermittent Keba. There's been a drop off from
Keba with Caba anyway. I don't know that accountability and
film Like I remember, like you had fear in your
heart because your teammates were gonna see how piss poor
your effort was or how piss poor your execution was,
and you lose the respect of your locker room teammates,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like that, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know if we have that accountability on the squad,
does that make sense? Because there's no one to replace
Rob Wright, so he doesn't care. But you can't threaten
him with minix reduction because who's gonna replace him.
Speaker 3: This is where you wish Dalen Hall was here because
it would have happened.
Speaker 2: You wish Dawson Baker and Nate Pickens hadn't been injured.
That's what you really would like.
Speaker 1: For Get Dallan, Forget Dallen for a minute. You wish
that Dawson and Nate weren't injured.
Speaker 3: This is true because even if they weren't playing well,
they would still be in the game. If they were
trying harder, Absolutely they'd be in the game.
Speaker 2: You could.
Speaker 3: You bench Cannon for Trey Stewart and ma what Mac,
that's it.
Speaker 6: That's what you did.
Speaker 3: And you don't have the body, so you can't people accountability.
Ron Well, you can't have a Kelson Sands and yelling
at Kingston Fleming saying hey, stop shooting threes, take twos
because well, Kevin Young's looking down at the bench like,
well it's Alexi and he can't go create so kud
of pigeonholes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really hard to hold people accountable. Like humans,
we move upon incentives and accountability right now, you move
either due to an incentive or accountability component on what
you're doing.
Speaker 2: Period. That's what human nature is.
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's any accountability right now, Like
that's gonna move rob right to hedge on the screen
and or like fight through a screen or move his feet.
Speaker 2: I just don't see it anyway.
Speaker 1: You get him the ball his hand and tell him
to go get a bucket, like, yeah, he's a mongoose.
I mean he's he's Tim Hardaway, you know what I mean.
He's Tim Hardaway senior man. That dude is uh, he
is twitchy. Twenty three points.
Speaker 2: AJ. Let's get back to AJ. AJ.
Speaker 1: How did you feel like you played and how did
the second half effort differ maybe compared.
Speaker 13: To the first, like coach said, effrow was just way
better than the second half. But we just gotta figure
out a way to, you know, start the game like that.
We always want to start. We don't always want to
start slow. You never really want to start slow. But
it feels like every every single game starting slow. But individually,
I mean I gotta play. I mean could have played
way better, could have gotten more rebounds, Morris try to
get my teams a ball, like coach said, Effrow.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, Look, I see great effort offensive than AJ,
And at times I see great effort from him defensively.
Speaker 2: He gets a.
Speaker 1: Little bit I think a little bit easy with his
defensive effort, like when he's off ball, like when he's
on ball, Like, I feel like he's pretty pretty high effort.
So I'd like to see him like maybe winding the same, Yeah,
the way Jeff Goodman said the exact thing that you
just saw.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he said that on the podcast.
Speaker 1: On Yeah, like like like it's what's really basic stuff,
Like it's like when you're an off ball defender, you're
between your man and the ball and you use your
peripheral vision with what AJ does a lot.
Speaker 2: Just watch him.
Speaker 1: He looks at the ball and then he looks back
at his at his the guy he's guard. He looks
at the ball and you you don't do that. That's
freaking wasted everything. He's when you look straight ahead and
you use your damn peripheral vision and you just wind
your stance and you you you hold your arms out
so you kind of have like a point of reference.
Your one hand is pointing towards the ball and the
other one's pointing towards your defender. Like I learned this
like as a sixth grade basketball player on like my
my All Star travel team. Like it's it's just it's
really fazing. Like he wastes a bunch of effort. You
mentioned he's tired, Ronnie. Yeah, you don't even have to move.
You just look forward and use your dang freaking peripheral vision.
Maybe he's got narrow he's got does he have narrow
eyeballs and he.
Speaker 6: Can't see other people?
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like I wonder if there's
like a hey, I don't know if so and so
has got that. So I gotta watch my guy and
that guy because I'm worried about what's going. But but
he's looking at the ball and then looking back in
the like he he does this little kind of walk.
He's kind of like walking in place, and his arms
are kind of dangling and he looks back.
Speaker 2: Watch him. Just watch him next time. No, no, just
watch them.
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying, because I just watch him
and he looks back to play where he's trying to
like get a steel though, because I've seen that where
he's read to play and gotten the steel, does he
think what his length? He can do that? Because I'm like,
why are you trying to but.
Speaker 1: You're wasting your You're literally by turning your head back
and forth like this.
Speaker 2: Just do it. Just just just do it.
Speaker 6: If he's cheating and then he ends up jumping the
past and that way.
Speaker 1: You can see the same thing by using your peripheral vision.
You can see the same thing using your bre You
don't have to look at the ball to see the ball.
Just sit there like this and use your purferal vision
like I'm doing right now.
Speaker 2: Like how far laterally can.
Speaker 1: You see if you bring your arms back, you know,
before your your your hands disappear, Like that's your that's
your court vision. That's literally your court vision. Like that's
what I see. That's what I see from AJ. If
I could change one thing about AJ, it would just
be his off ball defense.
Speaker 7: The deal, like, and he would get I care you
guys were playing defense. I don't even know that we're
having this conversation because.
Speaker 2: We're not necessario.
Speaker 3: We're not noticing it.
Speaker 7: Because he's the only person who's given effort on defense.
Not perfect effort, but he's one of the only people
who's giving a high motor effort. Let's get into I
want to get the rest of the sound, and we'll
call this a segment. AJ, what was working for you
offensively in the second half.
Speaker 13: Trying to stay more aggressive, you know, to try to
get to my spots and raise up, not trying to
put fade too much, just trying to find my guys
so that hey three, I know Rob hid one early,
but trying to find Alex and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say this much.
Speaker 1: I think AJ early on in the season, remember his
his dribble, dry penetration, pump eg getting guys up off balance,
and then he would finish at that. You know afterwards
it worked right, everyone scouted him now and so he
just needs to trust his length on athleticism and just
pull you know. I I think if he keeps doing that,
gets your spot elevate pool. That's not a bad shot
any anywhere AJ shoots it from quite honestly in rhythm
is probably not a bad shot in my opinion, Rob,
Why did the team struggle with turnovers in the first half.
Speaker 8: I think it was just a decision making.
Speaker 10: Like coach said, we had a couple of turnovers with
their aggressive defense, and then I feel like late game
we had that one turnover at the end to let say,
I feel like if we fixed that one and w
probably be a different story.
Speaker 12: And even that Jay too, I think where you kind
of going it sounds like you're questioning the execution is
second half.
Speaker 8: I mean that that turnover he's referencing.
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't know if I would point that
to execution as it was just is a broken player
is the wrong decision. But in terms of things we
actually had to execute offensively, I thought we you know,
we came out of timeouts, got he got a good
good look at a three, and so I think where
you're going, I would point it more to decision making
than I would execution, which was was this the case
in the first half. You know these two guys, I
thought he wasn't great with his decision making the first half.
Speaker 8: Second half did a much better job. Thought Rob had
a steady hand all night.
Speaker 12: Playing forty straight minutes again tonight, and so there look,
there there are things that we can definitely take from
this game that was a positive.
Speaker 8: But you know, you're just disappointed to come up short.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean they're gonna say decision making,
and it's spot on you. I mean you you know
it's it's it's decision making. It's it's just being lazy, right,
and uh, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: AJ.
Speaker 1: What has the team learned from this past month, because
it's been such an up and down time.
Speaker 13: I'm just trying to, you know, learn from the wins
and losses, the good things that we've done in the
wins and the bad thing he's done the loss, and
trying to just translate that to you know, the upcoming one.
Speaker 2: AJ.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, AJ, how well let me get through this.
Speaker 2: How well? Uh did Brennan Laurian guard you in this game?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 13: You solid you know, he sent me into the double,
which is probably their defensive scheme. And I've seen a
lot of bodies tonight, so credit him.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, good defensive, especially in the first half. Uh.
And uh, But like I said, I think if if AJ.
Speaker 1: Pools rather than plumps all the time, I think he's
going to make more than any missers. Kevin, what's your
message to the team going forward heading into March.
Speaker 8: Well, first of I appreciate your question to AJ how
you worded it.
Speaker 12: You know, I might steal that, Honestly, the trash can
throw it all in there.
Speaker 8: Man, February is over with, so you know, it's been hard.
Speaker 12: I'll be honest, it's been a it's been the whole
season has been full of adversity and uh and I
don't go to philosophical very often, but you know, it's
that's life.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 12: Crap happens, and you got to freaking figure out a
way to get through hard stuff, is the bottom line.
And so the thing I am proud of our group
for staying together. You know, it has been challenging. There's
no getting around. Richie gets all the headlines. But I mean,
we've got five guys who aren't playing for us right now,
you know, two three of which would be rotation guys.
And so you can either make an excuse about that
or you can throw it in a trash can, like
you said. And and we've still proven that we can
play with the best teams even with the injuries that
we had, and so we we have to galvanize ourselves.
You know, I thought we were and the thing that
I'm kind of dumbfounded on is I thought after that
big win against Iowa State, we would be able to
galvanize ourselves a little more than we have. And so
that's my message to the guys is you know what
they want is still in front of them. You know,
we we obviously have some work to do, but you
do kind of have to throw it in a trash
can and at some point you just got to decide
this is who we want to be.
Speaker 1: There's a few like an excuse or was he giving,
you know, kind of a balanced approach to what's happening here.
Speaker 7: That's exactly what I think, because I think he is
going in on him. We heard what he said after
the UCF game, like see you for film tomorrow, Like yeah,
I do think he's trying to balance of like I'm
gonna give you respect as a human being, yeah, but
I'm also.
Speaker 6: Gonna get on you and you.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm assuming he's smiling because you could hear
his tone change when he was talking about the trash
can throw it all in, which I think is a
good way of looking at it. And b why you
needs it because if you get so negative, then it's
to the point where it's like, why are we even
playing basketball?
Speaker 6: We should just quit right now. And that's not what
you want.
Speaker 7: You want to push them to the point of wanting
to be better, and to his point, throwing it all
in the trash can and getting ready for March.
Speaker 2: Throw it all the trash can. Then let's get ready
for March.
Speaker 1: Please, please, no more trash, no more what we're all
of the uh?
Speaker 2: What're all the adjectives that he used about this game?
Speaker 1: But it was a joke. Abysmal, abysmal? Did you use atrocious?
Speaker 2: Anyway, Let's go to break. That's our segment.
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