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Speaker 2: Coming off a great.

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Speaker 1: Weekend, let's welcome in our executive producer, Ronald the three

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Man Weave or what's up Ronnie?

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Speaker 2: How you living?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 6: Abby?

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Speaker 3: Monday? And that is all I have to say.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So it wasn't a great weekend for you. I

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thought it was a great weekend for you, Ronnie.

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Speaker 3: It was great weekend for my family.

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Speaker 6: But as I was a good one.

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Speaker 3: But my job takes over on the weekends. It's never

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really any days off. And as I was sitting there,

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I'm like, what in the world am I gonna plan

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for Monday? I was like, well, you got Booboo Johnson

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or Doodoo Stevens. Which one is it? I was like,

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is it Booboo Johnson of that you allowed eighteen offensive rebounds?

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Or is it you know, Doodoo Stevens. Of guys are

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on tape now by national media members are cutting clips

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and putting it and then other media members are trying

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to defend it and say, well, we didn't know if

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he was supposed to switch, when that wasn't the case.

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And a guy starts to run on defense because he

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got been and then he stops, and I'm like, yeah,

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you can't defend it anymore.

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't say you need to figure it out.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna listen to the sound.

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Speaker 3: Buddies Brother's Brother and you've been You've been trying to

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figure it out for six weeks. You've been trying to

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pass the test. You can't drop out of the class.

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It's unfortunate. You can't get the withdrawal, you can't get

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the incomplete. You're gonna have to finish this class and

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get the best grade possible. If you're if you graduated

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from BYU or took the class, you know, but you're pregnant.

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This is American heritage, and that your final grade will

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replace all the other exams that you have not passed

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up until this point, and that will be your final grade.

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Or Physical Science one hundred if you took that class too,

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because at this point in the season, with the way

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it's going, it looks like that you might not either

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win a game the rest of the way and look

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ben as it says today BYU takes on Utah in

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the Big twelve Tournament. With the way Utah has played BYU,

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I will say it over air, and I am fully

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confident saying this, and the U fans might not come

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for me. I fully believe that if BYU and Utah

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matched up in the Big TWEF tournament today, Utah could

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beat BYU. Yes, I just said it. And the reason

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why I said it has nothing to do with talent.

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But when talent doesn't work hard, it gets beat. And

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that's what we've been seeing constantly, lacks of days ago effort.

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I don't care. I have nothing positive that I can

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really say because everything I've seen you have caused me

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to speak negative. It's not me, it's you. I don't

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want to speak negative, but I have to be objective.

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And the objective metrics I see is I see bad behavior,

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bad body language. I don't see effort, and I don't

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know how you can fix that's I don't know if

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it's a cultural thing. Chemistry's off, and it looks like

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you don't want to be there. And it's sad because

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the expectations at the beginning the season were great. I

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get you got five injuries, but injuries have nothing to

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do with effort, and effort is just not there.

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Speaker 1: Injuries have nothing to do with effort. Is this the

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mantra of the BYU fan base. I think it is.

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I think it is because I asked the question in

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the post. I said, how much grace do you give

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a team that is still very talented, right, very talented,

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still a talented squad, but has so many season ending injuries?

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What type of leash do you give it? And time

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and time again, the comments section just just was aggressively

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and adamantly declaring that injuries have nothing to do with effort.

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Speaker 2: This is a cultural issue.

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Speaker 1: This is a maybe a coaching issue, This is a

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player issue as well.

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Speaker 2: Maybe these guys just don't like to play the game.

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Speaker 1: Let's welcome in Brett always bringing the hammer, hammer, time,

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show hammer.

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Speaker 2: How there are you?

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Speaker 7: If you want to get smart, to read a book,

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if you want to get dumber, go on the internet.

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Holy cow, the tomfoolery, the buffoonery, the idiocy, the hijinks,

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all that was going on on the internet in our

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own backyard from people who I wouldn't say we work

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with because those people would have to be journalists for

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me to say that about them, and they're not. This

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is just I could not believe the amount of idiocy that.

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I mean, look, there's dumb people on the internet. But man,

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there were some people really fired up about a whole.

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Speaker 6: Lot of nothing on the internet. And I get it.

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People are upset about BYU.

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Speaker 7: People are upset that bou had probably the highest expectations

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maybe they've ever had, at least in the modern era,

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and they're not gonna be able to live up to

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those and it would require literally a miracle for them

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to win more than two tournament games. But if you,

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I don't feel bad for you. If you go on

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the internet and you get fired up, I don't feel

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bad that somebody rage made you. That's my statement for today,

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because there were too many people upset about too many

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things that honestly, if guess what, I didn't read it,

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so I didn't get upset.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, there's always gonna be the I mean, look,

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they call them fanatics for a reason.

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Speaker 6: Okay, some of those people also claim to be journalists.

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Speaker 2: So could you give me, give me an example what's

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Speaker 6: So did you see the alex Markham Spencer Lytton stuff.

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Speaker 1: Oh I saw a little bit of it. I saw

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a little bit of it. Yeah, So that and here's

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the deal.

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Speaker 7: I don't I don't know, Alex, I don't have anything,

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but I'm like, I mute his tweets because they're not

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things that I want to see. But then I see

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all these BAYU fans getting fired up, and I'm like, look,

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you you have an option on your phone that says, hey,

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I don't have to see this if I don't want to,

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you read it, and then you got fired up.

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Speaker 6: That's on you and Catalyst.

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Speaker 2: Was that happened?

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Speaker 7: Alex Markham said something along the lines of that twenty

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million dollar roster, that bill you paid for really crumbled,

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which I.

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Speaker 6: Mean, good on him for good wordplay, good writing. And

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then I don't.

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Speaker 7: Know how Spencer got dragged into it, but him and

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Spencer kind of went back did he quote?

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Speaker 1: Did Alex initially quote tweet something from No No that

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tweet specifically Alex put out on his own.

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Speaker 7: My guess is Alex reached out to Spencer. I didn't

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look at it enough. That was just the initial tweet,

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and then they ended up going back and forth about it,

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and Spencer basically said like, that's not the number. I

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know what the number is and that's not it. And

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so then everyone's saying, oh, Spencer doesn't know what he's

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talking about, and you just had a lot of BYU

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fans who were really upset about it, and I was

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just like, I get it. And then you added adding

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in what Ron's talking about, you have media members fighting

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about whether it was a switch or it wasn't a switch,

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and they have former players who were like, hey, this

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is exactly what it was. And it was just like,

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I think, as media people, like we understand the world

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that we live in. And I said this to Ron,

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I'm like, look, we have our opinions, but if Jonathan

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Tabernari wants to come in here and give them the

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technicality of like, oh that was designed to be a

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switch or that wasn't designed to be who.

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Speaker 6: Am I to argue with the guy who actually knows ball?

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Speaker 7: And so I just think in this world that we're

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living in, like you got to understand who you're talking to,

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what credibility that person has, and what they're going for,

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whether that person's a rage beator, whether that person's a

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former player who actually has knowledge. But like not, I

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guess what I'm saying is not all opinions are created equal.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, I mean, look obviously the twenty million if

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if that's what the debate was about it.

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Speaker 2: It's a little high, Like, I don't think what is

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the payroll for BYU?

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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I feel like if.

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Speaker 6: It was twenty million.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to be disrespectful, but I feel like

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if it was twenty million, you would have more guys

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on the roster.

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Speaker 6: What do you mean, like more talent, you have a

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deeper wealth of talent. I think if you were spending

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twenty million, that's just my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, yeah, I think you I'd look. I think

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that's a high high number. And I think that's probably

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what Spencer was most likely debating.

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Speaker 3: And I'm jumping in here. I think between aj Rob

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and Ritchie you're probably paying about ten million.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, let's just keep your ten million for the rest.

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Speaker 3: And I was just gonna say so, so you'd think

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between Dawson Baker, Nate Pickens and the other guys out

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and other guys, there is another ten million? Are we

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being serious?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 3: But also that's just true.

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Speaker 7: That comment shouldn't offend a single by you fan because again,

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whether or not it's true or not, whether or not

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it's twenty million, guess what last time I checked, it's

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legal to pay players. So even if it is twenty million,

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there's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 6: So that's the other reason why I'm like, I don't

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understand why Bulia fans are upset about that.

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Speaker 1: Well, what I'll say is this the top tier programs.

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I think this has been widely reported. The top tier

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programs in college basketball are in that eight to ten

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to maybe at most twelve million dollar range on their roster.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it. It's it's higher than I bet you.

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Speaker 1: It's probably around that ten million, and that's a lot

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of money. You're you're a top tier roster. So I'll

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give Alex some grace. He hyperbole aside, like, we we

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all know, and we.

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Speaker 2: May get an email, we may get it.

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Speaker 1: We all know that we have allocated a significant amount

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of resources to this basketball team, not only as players

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but as coaches.

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Speaker 2: Would we agree with that. Nobody's working for free. No

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one's working for free.

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Speaker 1: The strength staff they were in the NBA, the nutrition

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staff they were in the NBA. You look at how

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many assistants and analysts and developer, Like, there's a lot

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of coaches on this staff. It's two to one coach

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or administrator to player. Chief of staff you know, general manager,

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all those things. So we know we've allocated a lot

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of money. Unfortunately it has not met the expectation up

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to this point. Now the season goes on, they could

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still go to a Sweet sixteen. And if you coupled

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the the the injuries and a sweet sixteen run, you're like,

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you know what, we'll take it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we'll tell you at hartbeat A one and done.

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Speaker 1: Like you may change quota, and you may say, look

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round of thirty two quota overachieving now is sweet sixteen.

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But BA fans just want to get to the tournament

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right now and maybe hopefully fingers crossed win a game.

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They are up in arms because the they know to

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a certain degree, how much like the resources that have

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been allocated to this roster, to the coaching staff, and

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it's fell short up to this point. AJ hasn't fell short, Nope,

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and in many ways Rob hasn't offensively, but defensively he

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has right, So look, I think what happens in these cases.

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Remember when you have consecutive losses like this, I hate

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to say it, but like those that are intertwined heavily

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with byu PR, they're gonna go end up and fight

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in a public relations way, right like, and I think

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that's where I think Spencer came is like, look, I'm

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not gonna allow lies to be disseminated. I'm gonna go

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fight it. What was it Robbie McCombs was debating with.

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Speaker 6: Carter Bond Chase Rogers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Chase, ro Look, Look there's a competitive element there.

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You know, Robbie's the basketball guy, I think, which the foe.

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Carter and Chase are probably trying to get you know,

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they they're they're basketball guys too, and they're kind of

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on the ends with some of the staff, Justin and others.

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Like everyone has like their sources, Everyone has their guys

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that that's feeding them a certain amount of information. You

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want to be respectful of those things. But there's there's competition,

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there's debate.

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Speaker 2: To me, I'm not a.

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Speaker 1: Blocker or a muter unless like you're like just abrasively

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like anonymously aggressive, and you're you're part of the dregs

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of a fan base, which there's plenty of those amongst

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the U fan base, and I'm sure there's plenty within

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the b A fan base that they're like the lowest

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common denominator people I tend to like and invite all conversations.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear it all.

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Speaker 6: I'm with you.

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Speaker 7: I'm just not with rage baiting and and I'm not

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against like I just don't personally want to see Alex's tweets.

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It's not for me, so I viewed it, but you

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don't like it's not for me yea other people.

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Speaker 2: It's just not for But I would say.

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Speaker 1: The basis the base thesis of his comment, even though

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it's it's it's two x more than what our payroll is,

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what Bi's payroll is. Uh is still sound. We have

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spent top to your money and received above average to

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good results.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Above average of good.

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Speaker 1: Results up to this point and and the the common

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by the way, doesn't.

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Speaker 2: BYU is out of the top twenty five now for

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the first time all.

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Speaker 6: Season, which is unreal. Do we think that was gonna happen?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 6: No, I don't think there's no world.

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Speaker 7: I thought like, hey, maybe you lose a couple of

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games in Big twelve play and you have a rough

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schedule and you get into the twenties. I don't think

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we thought there was any planet on which BYU fell

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out of the top twenty five. Now, I guess the

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silver lining, if there is one, is that BYU was

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the number one team in terms of others receiving votes.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if that does anything for anybody.

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Speaker 7: So I think the rest of the country still has

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like a little bit hope. I think nationally basketball has

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more hope in BYU than BYU fans have in BA.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So BYU falls out of the top twenty five for

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the first time this season. Why they lost to West

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Virginia seventy nine to seventy one.

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Speaker 2: They're out.

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Speaker 2: What happened? Right?

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Speaker 1: So, West Virginia control the game for most of the

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finals twenty seven minutes or so.

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Speaker 2: They held off on eate Bau push as they always do.

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Speaker 1: It seems all these teams they hold off BYU rob

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right the third head what twenty three points? AJ had

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twenty points combined for forty three collectively. The Cougar struggled

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with turnovers, rebounding, offensive droughts, and just lack of like

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defensive effort.

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Speaker 2: Quite honestly.

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Speaker 1: The loss drops bo you to twenty nine and out

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of the top twenty five and eight and eight in

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the Big Twelve, continuing a difficult stretch where the Cougars

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have lost eight of their last twelve games.

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Speaker 2: It is crazy. That's why the spiral.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's beginning to not believe in this team because they

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are so consistently average to above average, right, that's what

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they've been consistently. If you're gonna describe the Cougar basketball

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team the Cougar case right now, they're just like consistently

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average and AJ hasn't been I think for the most

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part offensively He's been really good and has shown his

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elite nature and he very well could be could end

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up if he finishes out to two really strong games here,

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he could end up being the Big twelve player of

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the year. I think that's still on the docket. But

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at times, bo you played well, but not consistently. The

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Cougar's built a twenty two to twenty lead midway through

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the first half behind strong guard play, you know, and

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outside shooting Alexi Coastik looked to be in rhythm.

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Speaker 2: But what happened was Bau did not.

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Speaker 1: Make a field goal for the final eight minutes of

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the first half.

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Speaker 2: Eight minute drought.

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Speaker 1: And do you put that on the players or do

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you put that eight minute drought on the players of

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the coaches?

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Speaker 2: Guys? What do you put that eight minute drought on?

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Right now?

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Speaker 1: Ronnie, you're watching this game? Do you put it all

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the players of the coaches? Like I feel like you

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may want to put it a little bit on the coaches.

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When you're in a drought, you gotta get an easy bucket.

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You gotta find a way to get somebody involved. You

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gotta change something up, and I felt like they really didn't.

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Speaker 2: West Virginia is a good defensive team. By the way,

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they're good.

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Speaker 6: Okay, they're the worst team offensively in the Big.

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Speaker 2: But they're the worst team offensively. To pick the tell.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's here's my thing. I think after after three minutes,

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it's on the coaches, but up until that point, it's

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on the players. Like like, I'm gonna give sixty percent

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of the account of built, well, seventy percent of the

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coach is in thirty percent to the players. Now I'm

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gonna give people a little per perspective. It's an NBA coach.

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He's also said at this time of the season, they

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got to figure it out on the court. So there

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you go. The one Doc Rivers would never call the timeout.

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He would let his guys die and figure it out

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and do that. Now this is college. You cannot do that.

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They are gonna be people who are on this coach.

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I hear you relaxed. Don't come for me, because I

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will come for you. But what I'm saying is that

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I think there is a point of a player like, look,

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I'm just gonna say it. Rob's already been ripped. We're

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gonna keep ripping them. You cannot drive to the basket

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when you get a ball in transition and be like, oh, okay,

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I met my right hand, my strength and drive as

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I don't believe you're six to one. By the way,

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I'm just gonna put that out there on a six

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foot seven dude, get contact, not get a call, and

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then you missed the shot in its twenty four seconds

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left on the shot clock. You take a two on one.

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on the too on one. You can't miss that shot anyway.

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But that's the problem, Ben, Like you can't like that

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was happening in the drought. When you're shooting bad shots

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early in the shot clock, that's on players, it's not

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on a coach. And then after they're tired and it

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gets that way, then it's on the coach and Kevin

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Young should have called the time out. But look, there's

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frustration probably between players with themselves, with players in their teammates, teammates,

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and the coaching staff. Coaching staff on the players, and

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that's what leads to that eight minute drought. Like you

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know what happen And may I remind you of another

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team that had an eight minute drought years ago. Mark Pope.

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with doing that eight minute drought get back in the

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game when they held Utah because of effort, it was

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just effort. The defense was not great, they still filed

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in that, but effort. That's what it comes down to.

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And I just it was eight minutes of just probably

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the most unacceptable basketball that they played this season. Like, honestly,

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I'm gonna say this that that eight minute stretch and

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I know that the UCF game it was just no defense.

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This that eight minute drought band was probably the worst

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that they played because they just looked defeated for the

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first time. I think I can say that confidently that

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they just looked defeated and they had nowhere to go.

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Aj didn't know what to do. Rob didn't know what

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to do. Alexi like they all is okay, but they

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all just look lost in a place that is difficult

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to play. Coliseum has Hardben. But it was just that

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that was probably the worst they minute of basketball that

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I think they played this season.

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Speaker 2: It's uh, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Look Offensively, Rob Wright was good in the first half.

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I mean, he's great offensive player, he's a defensive liability.

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00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,720
I think we can all agree on that. I think

474
00:22:05,799 --> 00:22:09,960
everyone sees it, everyone knows it, and I'm pretty sure

475
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,440
that the coaching staff knows it.

476
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 2: What do we do with it? Though? What do you

477
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,160
do right now?

478
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,839
Speaker 1: Let's get into let let's go to break. We'll come

479
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,880
back with all the sound. Get Kwy's thoughts on it

480
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,799
and AJ and Rob. The one good thing about this,

481
00:22:24,319 --> 00:22:26,559
My only silver lining in this game is that Ky

482
00:22:26,599 --> 00:22:29,480
and the post game had AJ and Rob next to him,

483
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,519
and and was open and fourth right about how atrocious

484
00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:36,039
the defense was, how poor the rebounding was.

485
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,599
Speaker 2: The effort is just.

486
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,599
Speaker 1: Just non existent. And but like, I don't know if

487
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,640
it changes behavior.

488
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: I don't think.

489
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 1: That that Rob I don't think cares that he's not

490
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,359
good at defense.

491
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,319
Speaker 2: No, I just don't think he cares, Like he just

492
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:54,960
doesn't care.

493
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,319
Speaker 7: It is weird, though, because that's this is the first

494
00:22:57,319 --> 00:22:59,559
time we've seen Rob at the podium in a while.

495
00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:02,000
It's been a while since he been up there because

496
00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:03,160
if you remember, they.

497
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,599
Speaker 2: Had to the leading score, they had to put him

498
00:23:05,599 --> 00:23:06,160
out there.

499
00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 7: He had a twenty point game last game when they

500
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,480
lost the UC.

501
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:10,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he wasn't there.

502
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he wasn't the leading scorer. Yeah, you know

503
00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:13,200
what I mean.

504
00:23:13,319 --> 00:23:16,039
Speaker 6: I mean he was only the leading scorer by three points.

505
00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: I know, but like but I think they they're they

506
00:23:19,519 --> 00:23:22,519
were hoping, praying like they were they were hoping him praying,

507
00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:26,039
Like with Mahilo, that volume in minutes would bring something

508
00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:26,599
out of him.

509
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 2: He'd he like he'd come.

510
00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:31,079
Speaker 1: He'd come out there like a little fat caterpillar and

511
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,599
just you blossom out of the cocoon like a beautiful butterfly.

512
00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: Same thing with Coastick.

513
00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:39,519
Speaker 1: They're just hoping he finds confidence, swagger, ability, like he's

514
00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:42,319
got ability. Like they're just hoping that, hoping that he

515
00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:46,079
has some confidence and swagger and productivity. And like so

516
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,640
they put him out there in front of the media

517
00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:49,880
like hey, you're a guy now, You're a guy now.

518
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: And he's he's seen the huge upticking minutes.

519
00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: But you know he had that great steel, he gets

520
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,079
hitting shots, had the great steal and then like takes

521
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,920
fifteen steps Epps can't take.

522
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:02,279
Speaker 10: The gather.

523
00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 6: Basketball guys, European basketball.

524
00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:08,759
Speaker 3: You guys watched the Super Bowl, right, you both did?

525
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:14,759
Like that shows galloped and.

526
00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:17,079
Speaker 1: That shows you like he's never been in those situations.

527
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,240
What I like, what those young men need like they

528
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,920
need to be coached up in a much more linear fashion.

529
00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 6: What do you mean by that?

530
00:24:28,519 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: What I mean by that is some people need to

531
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,200
be told exactly what to do and when to do it,

532
00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:38,920
and otherwise or others. You can put them out there

533
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,160
and they kind of just get into a rhythm and

534
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,200
feel even though they lack a little bit big seriens,

535
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,240
and they just start playing. Right with Kostick, you have

536
00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:50,519
to tell him after you get a steal, what is

537
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:52,279
it that you're best at, Alexi?

538
00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:54,279
Speaker 2: What are your best at?

539
00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:57,799
Speaker 1: That dude only knows how to shoot, Like if he

540
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,079
has the purest shot, I have seen it in a

541
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,000
long while at Vway you it's more pure and in

542
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,759
rhythm and smooth, I think than Trevin. Now, I really

543
00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:11,400
believe that Trevin is a little bit more like. I

544
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,839
mean Richie's as smooth too. Richie's is very nice, but costick.

545
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,000
When he's in rhythm, it is a thing of beauty.

546
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,720
How pure his mechanics are. Pull up from three Alexi

547
00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:25,119
and transition, just pull, just pull, baby, don't.

548
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: Even go to the rim.

549
00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: Because when he dribbles and he passes, how many times

550
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,559
have we seen him turn the ball over because he.

551
00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 3: Just he just doesn't handle.

552
00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: But when he shoots, I'm like, that thing's going in,

553
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,039
like every time he releases it, even though like I

554
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:43,039
know he airballed that one. It was a higher, higher

555
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:45,640
pressure situation late in the game and it was contested.

556
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,920
But like I'll take a Lexi pulling up catching shoot

557
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,680
off the bounce dribble even semi contes because it's so pure,

558
00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:58,160
just shoot the damn ball. But I would tell him

559
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,440
to just pull up, Dude, he wasn't even because he

560
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:01,519
did have a defender there.

561
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess, but he got there. Like yeah, in principle,

562
00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:11,279
I like, but that's the.

563
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: Reason why he didn't know if he was going to pass.

564
00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:18,039
Speaker 2: Or lay it in. He didn't.

565
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: He doesn't know how to make decisions. That's what I'm

566
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:26,319
getting in he made it traveled, He traveled because he

567
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,799
didn't make the decision. He's like, I don't know if

568
00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:32,039
I'm gonna finish or if I'm gonna dish this. But

569
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,119
if he makes the decision to finish, like he's get

570
00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:37,319
if he if he just makes the damn decision, he yeah,

571
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:41,559
he gets there. But like my automatic, like with the Alexi,

572
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:43,480
I'm like don't even worry about layups.

573
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: Just shoot the J. Just shoot it. Just shoot it

574
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:48,440
baby in transition.

575
00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:53,599
Speaker 1: Anyway, that's my thought process with Alexi, Like, don't let

576
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,640
him make decisions.

577
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,599
Speaker 2: He's not built to make decisions. He's just not even

578
00:26:57,599 --> 00:26:57,799
in that.

579
00:26:58,279 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: It was a great defensive effort, fantastic when you get

580
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,160
the ball in your hands, I just want you to

581
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,240
let it fly, Alexi, Just let it fly.

582
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,559
Speaker 2: What do you got for me, Ronnie.

583
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: Here's your thing and maybe this will prove to your point.

584
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,519
Alexi Kostic has played over twenty minutes is for my

585
00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:16,759
boy Owen Chapman, by the way, just three minutes this year.

586
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,240
His numbers in those games when he plays plus twenty

587
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:22,160
minutes thirteen point seven points per game. He's thirteen of

588
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,640
twenty five from three plus fifty in category.

589
00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:28,519
Speaker 2: So there you, bro, I'm telling you, just shoot the J.

590
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:29,839
Dude like g.

591
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: Shooter, Like he is so pure in his shot, like

592
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:39,960
and he's got a good handle like he does like

593
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,480
he's got a great baseline skill set.

594
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: He is so he lacks so much confidence.

595
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't know who yelled at him since like he

596
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:52,200
started playing basketball. Who instilled like the fear of failure

597
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,119
in him. But he outside of shooting like he lacks

598
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,400
confidence outside when he but when he shoots it, I'm like,

599
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,640
dude that he he knows, he knows how to shoot

600
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:03,000
the Jay.

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Speaker 7: Guys ever listened to Daughtry back in like the late

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two thousands, early twenty tens, it was like kind of

618
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grunge a little bit I had. I had a grunge face,

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like my freshman year of high school, and.

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Speaker 6: I was it was.

621
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Speaker 7: I would come home from school and it was Daughtry

622
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and Nickelback just on repeat. And uh, when I was

623
00:29:35,079 --> 00:29:38,079
watching BOE basketball like true Story the other day, I

624
00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:40,440
think it was the UCF game. I was watching the

625
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:43,279
UCF game and I was like, the lyrics to this

626
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,759
song like just came in my brain.

627
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 6: I was like, can we start over? Can we start over?

628
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Speaker 7: Like I want to believe in something good, but I

629
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:56,519
don't see anything good here, and so yeah, this was

630
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:58,279
this was the vibes I was feeling as I watched

631
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BYU the other day, and I certainly felt it as

632
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I watched Yeahs.

633
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Speaker 1: It's alternative rock, post grunge, like you know, like I

634
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grew up in like the Nirvana, you know, Pearl Jam,

635
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Sound Garden, all of that era, and this is this

636
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is kind of the transition.

637
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Speaker 2: You know.

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the ky AJ debots and Rob right the right, Rob

652
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right the third sound post game after West Virginia, Kevin,

653
00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:57,079
what was your take of the game and the effort level?

654
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,240
Then the previous game against UCF.

655
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:00,839
Speaker 8: It was a joke.

656
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 12: In the first half, it was it was a joke,

657
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,119
but the whole half, but you know, they went on

658
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,880
that flurry and it was, uh just some of the

659
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:14,519
clips we watched at halftime were just inexcusable. So I

660
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:18,720
thought our guys responded at halftime, uh and brought better

661
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:19,880
effort in the second half.

662
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 8: It was a joke.

663
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 6: It was a joke.

664
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,759
Speaker 7: We need that like clip as like it's the hot

665
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:28,559
key that we could just play, yeah, because that isn't

666
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:30,599
incredible and.

667
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,359
Speaker 2: Save that to the log or whatever, save it to

668
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,519
the Yeah. Yeah, so it was a joke.

669
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,319
Speaker 6: It was a joke.

670
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,319
Speaker 1: So, like, I just wonder how impactful the words of

671
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,240
k Y are to the current leadership AJ and Rob,

672
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,440
who were sitting right next to him, Like, I just wonder, like,

673
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:51,240
you know, how remember when your dad said to you,

674
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:54,200
look you in the eye and said, I'm not mad,

675
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,519
I'm disappointed.

676
00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed. You're like, oh, man, I'm just man. You know.

677
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: Like Rob's over there, like you say I'm disappointed, and

678
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,599
He's like, I gaff, okay, it gaff.

679
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:08,319
Speaker 2: You know.

680
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: I in AJ too, Like I don't know if like

681
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,839
you can like I feel like I feel like the disappointment,

682
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,720
Like there's no disappointment in these kids. There's like there's

683
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:21,880
no think AJ is disappointed. Yeah, I think so, maybe

684
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,200
possibly more so than others.

685
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 7: I think he he because I do think AJ gives

686
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,039
off some I don't want to say bad body language

687
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:32,279
because I don't want to put him in the group

688
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:35,000
of other people, but I do think you see just

689
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:38,079
a little bit of defeated energy with AJ, and I

690
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:41,039
think it's different. I think AJ is defeated because he

691
00:32:41,079 --> 00:32:43,480
feels like he's trying really hard and he wants it

692
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,960
to work. But I wonder if he feels like he's

693
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,559
the only person who's trying to make it work. And

694
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:51,119
that's different from yeah, man, I just don't care.

695
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 6: I'm too cool for school.

696
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

697
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: I think I think the struggle that maybe Kate why

698
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:57,359
has this is my opinion. Obviously, the offense has been

699
00:32:57,359 --> 00:32:59,000
really good, and the offense has been good because of

700
00:32:59,039 --> 00:32:59,440
the talent.

701
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: Know it's the chicken or the egg? Is it off?

702
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: Is the offense really good because of the scheme or

703
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:04,960
is it because of the town. This is a pro

704
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:08,839
style scheme that they're running in these offensive sets, and

705
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,599
sometimes when you get into these offenses, like it's going

706
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,440
to translate for aj Aj is going to be a

707
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,799
better suited for the NBA because of what he's experienced.

708
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:19,519
Speaker 2: In in in.

709
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: The Ky architecture and structure, but it's not always best

710
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,680
for college basketball. And the shot selection that he's getting

711
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,240
where he's trying so hard to get a shot and

712
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,519
then he's looking for a foul and then and then

713
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:35,440
he and he does kind of get fouled but doesn't

714
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,359
get the call. That is extremely frustrated for him, and

715
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,079
we saw a lot of that versus West Virginia and

716
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:44,240
we've seen that at other times when he's not getting calls,

717
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,480
he's not getting calls, and so I think that's been

718
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:50,759
a bit of a struggle for him and that's been

719
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:56,079
frustrating for him and for fans that are watching, like, Okay,

720
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,440
why why do you keep on going to ISO basketball?

721
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: Why do you keep doing that? It's not an easy

722
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,119
it's not an easy bucket.

723
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: I think it's really hard for k Why to step

724
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,319
outside of that that that the infrastructure and scheme and

725
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,639
architecture and say, Okay, we're gonna do it a different way.

726
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: And it's hard to do that in the middle of

727
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:12,719
a game.

728
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,559
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that in game prep too, because

729
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:17,440
you have your your sets that you've been playing these

730
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:20,440
entire this entire emotional offense and your your offensive sets

731
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,039
that you've been playing the entire year. So I don't

732
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:26,079
have the answer. All I'm saying is I think that's

733
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:26,840
the reality.

734
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:27,519
Speaker 2: Now.

735
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:31,679
Speaker 1: We finally did see BYU basketball in the NCAA Tournament

736
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,800
last year hit a stride, but it was because Jegor

737
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,639
was hitting us ride and you had all these these

738
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:41,320
guys around him that were great, I believe great complimentary

739
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,000
pieces to Yegor, and unfortunately we just don't have the

740
00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:49,400
complimentary pieces right now that are consistent enough. Uh, and

741
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,880
our defense is still poor. So when our offense is

742
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,679
lacking and our in our defense sucks and the effort sucks,

743
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,519
then we get down once again. Kevin, you guys had

744
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:02,440
another first half. Why does that keep happening?

745
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 8: Different reasons every game.

746
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 12: This game, it was our decision making, driving in the crowd,

747
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,599
turn the ball over, not getting shots on goal. When

748
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:12,840
we did what we were supposed to do on offensively,

749
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,360
we actually we did a decent enough job, and then

750
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:18,880
the defensive intensity was abysmal, like I said, in the

751
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:19,480
first half.

752
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:23,199
Speaker 8: So those two factors got us off to that start.

753
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: Decision making effort, just poor shot selection. It's a joke.

754
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:34,960
It's a joke.

755
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,559
Speaker 6: It's a joke.

756
00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: It's a joke.

757
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: So it's something different, he said. The first half woes

758
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,320
are something different every single time. Agreer disagree with that.

759
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,159
Agreer disagree that it's something different each game.

760
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:56,079
Speaker 7: I think it's really hard to play great offense when

761
00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:58,400
you know you have to play perfect defense. And what

762
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,079
I mean by that is we keep joking around about

763
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:04,960
how it just feels like everyone who plays BYU has

764
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,639
a career day, whether it's on or huff, whether it's

765
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,239
the like everybody has. Somebody has a career day against BYU. Well,

766
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,840
the reason is because you're not defending.

767
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: And then when you don't defend and then you make

768
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,159
a mistake on offense, now you're doubled down in the

769
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:22,239
hole and you have to climb out of a hole

770
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,760
that's even larger. So I do believe schematically, to the

771
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,440
eyes of Kevin Young, the coach, it's a different reason

772
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,440
every game. The overarching reason, however, they can have small

773
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,239
off shoots off of it is you're not playing great

774
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,159
defense and so then you have to be perfect on offense.

775
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, getting back to it.

776
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 8: It was a joke the first half it was. It

777
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:46,880
was a joke.

778
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: It's always a joke at the first coach your thoughts

779
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,639
on the late game execution down the strets, B was

780
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:56,679
in this B YU was they were in it again

781
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,199
like fake fakedal oh it's our and then they just

782
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,000
crap the bed.

783
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:03,159
Speaker 2: Bad decisions, I mean.

784
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:08,159
Speaker 1: Lack of effort, bad passes, turnovers, lack of rebounding.

785
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,119
Speaker 6: It's just insane, Like.

786
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: I can't believe Kevin didn't get that rebound. I can't

787
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,199
believe aj turned the ball over. I can't believe it.

788
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,800
Like she didn't come to the ball anyway. Coach, your

789
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,920
thoughts on the late game execution down the stretch.

790
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 12: Offensively was fine, Defensively was a disaster.

791
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: Defensively it was a disaster.

792
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 6: He's already used the word joke twice, abysmal and disaster

793
00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:35,599
so far in this Prescot great adjectides. What what did

794
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:35,880
you like?

795
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: Silver line? What'd you like from Alexi Costick off the bench.

796
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 8: Making? Yeah, I mean he's a guy that can space

797
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,679
the floor for us. Uh.

798
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 12: He's tough too. I think he brings a little bit

799
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,760
of an edge. So he's a guy you know giving this.

800
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,679
You know the state our team's in. You know his

801
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:56,599
his ability to space the floor is important.

802
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: You know what I want to do with Alexi? I

803
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,400
want him? No, No, I I mean.

804
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can totally well, you can hang out with Trevin.

805
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,079
Trevent's got a lot of confidence. One thing I love

806
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:16,719
about Trevin He's competitor, high energy, belief in himself. Like

807
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,039
I love the mentality of Trevinell totally agree with you there,

808
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:23,280
Like hang out as much as you can with Trevinell

809
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,480
all day, every day, the same way like Shooter shoots right,

810
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:33,119
like like Jonathan like loves himself. Trevin loves himself like Alexi,

811
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:35,079
I'm not sure loves himself. Does that make sense? Like

812
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:38,800
hang out with those guys all the time. But like

813
00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:40,480
the other thing I want him to do is like

814
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,000
I thought of like the Cool Runnings. Did you guys

815
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:47,320
ever watch Cool Runnings? We get we just got done

816
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,920
with that Winter Olympics. Cool Runnings?

817
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:55,079
Speaker 2: Uh, like the best speech. I see pride, I see power.

818
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: I see a bad m effort that's that doesn't take

819
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,639
no crap from nobody, Like Alexi needs to look at

820
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,280
himself in the mirror and say I'm good enough, I'm

821
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,719
smart enough, like Doug go at people like me, you know,

822
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,039
type of thing like I see pride, I see power.

823
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,360
I see someone who doesn't care, you know what I mean?

824
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: Just go after it.

825
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:18,159
Speaker 1: If he flips the switch, Alexis could be a game

826
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:24,199
changer for by one offensively and like we're seeing like grit,

827
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,920
uh physicality, some good on ball defense from Alexi that

828
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:32,719
rip at half court that ended up being in travel.

829
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,639
I mean I was like were you guys all like

830
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:41,039
in shock and awe, like when he ripped it, No oh, Alexi, yes,

831
00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:47,760
and so anti climactic No, Alexei and Alexi throws his

832
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,039
arms up in the air and you can just see

833
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:55,360
the the disappointment and he's like, oh that was that

834
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,960
was a missed opportunity, and that that fear and that

835
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:03,000
insecurity comes out right. He's on the brink of finding

836
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:06,159
himself though, And that's why I say from the prior sagment,

837
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,119
like just keep shooting the baby, just let it rain,

838
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,599
I see pride.

839
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,039
Speaker 3: To answer your question, Ben, no, I wasn't surprised because

840
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:16,880
he's done that a handful of times. He posts the ball. No,

841
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,079
he like in I can't remember the Iowa State game,

842
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:21,239
but he ripped I can't remember who it was up

843
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,760
like twice from behind where he just got the ball stripped.

844
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,639
And like he's got active hands that are actually really

845
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,559
underrated because of that six or four lengthen. Look, people

846
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:31,199
gonna think I'm not I'm not trying to give this

847
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,760
person a straight but that's what people wanted dall On

848
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,920
Hall to do with that size and lengthen hands. They

849
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,760
wanted him to be able to get deflections like that.

850
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:39,800
Down had a different skill set because he's got a

851
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:45,000
better handle. But Ben, look, I'm yes, Alexi's travel is bad,

852
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:48,000
but guess what I'm I'm gonna be worse here I was.

853
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:51,079
I was more disappointed in Mahilo. I can take Alexi's

854
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:54,559
travel to the bank. I cannot take Mahilo who decided actually,

855
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:56,400
I'm gonna go to the basket. But then I'm a

856
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,480
mister two on one with ajd Bonsa. And that's why

857
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,599
between two out when you look at tape, if you're

858
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:04,480
gonna take a two on one, bin and I'm pretty

859
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,360
sure Brett would back me up with aj there, and

860
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,039
you don't make the layup, you better start passing the ball.

861
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,599
You better start passing the ball.

862
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,199
Speaker 7: I'm telling you, I see a coming, I'm tossing it

863
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,719
to him and been he had an opportunity there.

864
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,519
Speaker 3: If he had an opportunity to pass it and he didn't,

865
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:22,679
I'm telling you, I know what they're gonna say. I've

866
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,519
played on the rugby team with dudes that won awards.

867
00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:27,320
You know what the coach told me, Ron, I loved

868
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,960
that you wanted to score right there. I know you

869
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,840
wanted to score right therefor I love the effort and

870
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,800
I and I'm saying this, just walk back. I had

871
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,000
scored an actual game, right and I came back and

872
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,920
they said, great, try Ron, but what I need you

873
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,159
to do is I need to pass the ball to

874
00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:43,719
the left. I was like, I was like, and then

875
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:45,880
I was like, okay, good and I did that and

876
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,360
then one game I didn't bin and got it. Like see,

877
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,280
that's why they told me to pass it because they

878
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,880
didn't want that to happen. Now, when we go back

879
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,880
and look at tape, I'm gonna get embarrassed. Oh this

880
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,079
mother fuck like that that I know that's gonna happen

881
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:57,960
to mihillis like, you have the top two pick and

882
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:01,960
you did what you said. I'm not gonna pass the ball. Oh, Alexi,

883
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,840
You're okay, brother. People, the travel you won't get killed for.

884
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,079
But the two on one I promise you, Mihilo is

885
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:09,000
gonna get ripped in film worse than you are.

886
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Young, what role did rebounding play in the outcome

887
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,400
versus West Virginia.

888
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:22,519
Speaker 12: Eighteen offensive rebounds? And we're usually really uh, we're actually

889
00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:24,920
usually really good. We're one of the best teams in

890
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,599
the in the conference with that, but you know they

891
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:30,239
only turned those into fifteen second chance points. But every

892
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,039
time we had them on the ropes, it felt like

893
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,079
they got an offensive rebound that made it difficult.

894
00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:38,639
Speaker 8: And look, I mean, you know we you know.

895
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,079
Speaker 12: I'm upset, obviously, I'm disappointed, but you know, you hold

896
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:45,920
their two top guys six or twenty three between I

897
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,840
believe between Huff and Eagle staff. You know, most nights

898
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,559
that's they're going to have a hard time winning. But

899
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,559
I thought Laura, it was Laurient, Moore and Thomas were

900
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:56,800
just men out there and they kicked our butt.

901
00:42:57,039 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 8: Credit to them.

902
00:42:59,760 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 6: Play.

903
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:03,519
Speaker 1: I am the lack of defensive rebounding on, Like what

904
00:43:03,519 --> 00:43:04,960
do you what do you blame it on? What's our

905
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,760
pie chart of accountability? Look like here it was a joke,

906
00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:12,199
you know what I mean? Like is this like like

907
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,360
who's coaching up rebounding?

908
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean? Like who's coaching up technique?

909
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:21,159
Who's coaching up effort?

910
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,079
Speaker 3: Works with the big man? Because he works with Kapus,

911
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,679
that might fall on him.

912
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,159
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I don't know, like when I

913
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:31,719
see lack of effort and like there's no accountability. You

914
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,400
know what I think of like, like I've been around

915
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:39,360
enough teams to kind of feel like I can diagnose this.

916
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,880
Like I'm not gonna say this is official.

917
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,199
Speaker 2: I'm not.

918
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,079
Speaker 1: This is just us talking radio heads. Okay, this is

919
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:48,039
radio it stalking. I think every one of these coaches

920
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,840
is a player's coach. Yeah, I think every one of

921
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,840
these coaches is a players coach. I think they just

922
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,960
all want to be liked all like, this is an NBA,

923
00:43:57,079 --> 00:44:00,800
this is a pro system, and everyone just you don't.

924
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 2: Have to coach kids hard. We're not supposed to coach.

925
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,039
Speaker 6: Is still that way.

926
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: Today.

927
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: I think all the coaches in general want to be liked.

928
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,119
This is a pro organization. We don't coach hard. We

929
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,280
don't coach in a way that hurts feelings and gets

930
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,719
people riled up, because then they transfer, or then they

931
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,039
have a bad experience, and then there's bad pr and

932
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:28,119
then they're talking poorly about BYU, and they're talking about

933
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:30,400
they're talking talking poorly about a particular coach.

934
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: All of that. Remember, this is a player's game.

935
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: Now, they have all the power they just do. They're

936
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,159
getting the money, they're getting the power, okay, and they

937
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,280
wield much more power in the locker room in day

938
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,039
to day practices than you may think.

939
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: It's just that, it's just where it's at.

940
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: And like I said, the pendulum needed to swing this

941
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,320
way in order for it to kind of swing back.

942
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,800
It's gonna level set. That's what markets do, that's what

943
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,119
economies do. It'll swing back and there's gonna be a

944
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:05,400
balance here. But this is a this is a this

945
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:07,920
is not every one of these coaches I feel like

946
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,280
is a player's coach.

947
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,119
Speaker 2: Meaning it's nice, it's comfortable.

948
00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: We'll been hoping again. Then I'm gonna say this then okay,

949
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,840
that's fine. If they want to do that, that's fine.

950
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,039
Kevin Young, that's fine, the staff of Kevin Young, and

951
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:21,440
this is just ready head's talking. My response to that

952
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,840
would be okay. Then at this moment in time again,

953
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,880
this fluid. The list is fluid, like Stevin a uh

954
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:28,400
March second on a Monday family home and the audition

955
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,679
at two fifty one, ron Off the three man weaver yes,

956
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,719
or refer to myself, and a third person says, you

957
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,239
will never be like Kelvin Sampson because Kelvin Samson is

958
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,480
not a players. Do you see what Kelvin is?

959
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: Well he's an accountability coach. I mean, he's definitely gonna

960
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:42,480
but he's but there's a difference right there. So like

961
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,400
what I'm saying is like and and and maybe this

962
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,840
is the point you're getting at here, like in film

963
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,280
like pulling up Rob wright lack of effort or Kepa's

964
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,199
lack of effort, like.

965
00:45:57,679 --> 00:45:58,639
Speaker 2: And maybe it doesn't matter.

966
00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:02,119
Speaker 1: Maybe if you have money, it very well could be

967
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,920
like I don't care anymore if you've got money.

968
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: It's like that that uh that that uh.

969
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,159
Speaker 1: That that tournament that's like psychological thing that that that

970
00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:12,960
occurs amongst many people. It's kind of like a hedonic

971
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:15,960
adaptation where you have everything you need therefore it doesn't

972
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,719
matter what the consequences are. Does that make sense that

973
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,320
it's this adaptation of like mindset where if k I

974
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,639
called out Rob right and said, do you believe and

975
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:28,639
I brought this up last week, Rob, You're not gonna

976
00:46:28,639 --> 00:46:29,440
be able to play in the NBA.

977
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,599
Speaker 2: I don't care how much you score.

978
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: If you play defense like this, no one's gonna draft you,

979
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:36,159
no one's gonna watch you. Like you think that's the case.

980
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,079
I don't know what you're thinking. And and and Rob

981
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:42,599
may be thinking. I don't care. You can call me

982
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:45,199
out all you want. I'm gonna go to the highest bind.

983
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:47,559
I'm gonna make a ton of money that's gonna set

984
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:50,559
me up and my family up for generations. I don't

985
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:51,880
really care if I play in the NBA because I'm

986
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,480
gonna make a ton of money the next two years

987
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:54,920
in college basketball.

988
00:46:55,639 --> 00:46:56,119
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

989
00:46:56,199 --> 00:46:59,159
Speaker 1: What's the motivating factor even when you call him out?

990
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:02,760
I don't know if it is because I don't see

991
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,000
that he cares. Keba not rebounding, Keba, You're gonna be

992
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,599
playing overseas, You're not playing in the NBA. You know,

993
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,519
I think Keba cares like I want to believe he cares,

994
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:13,519
but I think he's been injured. He had the concussion,

995
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:16,320
he had the hand. We've seen a drop off from him.

996
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,679
We've seen intermittent Keba. There's been a drop off from

997
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,920
Keba with Caba anyway. I don't know that accountability and

998
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:26,800
film Like I remember, like you had fear in your

999
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,559
heart because your teammates were gonna see how piss poor

1000
00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:34,199
your effort was or how piss poor your execution was,

1001
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,920
and you lose the respect of your locker room teammates,

1002
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,119
you know what I mean?

1003
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: Like that, I.

1004
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,119
Speaker 1: Don't know if we have that accountability on the squad,

1005
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,280
does that make sense? Because there's no one to replace

1006
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,440
Rob Wright, so he doesn't care. But you can't threaten

1007
00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:53,039
him with minix reduction because who's gonna replace him.

1008
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,199
Speaker 3: This is where you wish Dalen Hall was here because

1009
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,440
it would have happened.

1010
00:47:56,679 --> 00:47:59,159
Speaker 2: You wish Dawson Baker and Nate Pickens hadn't been injured.

1011
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,480
That's what you really would like.

1012
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: For Get Dallan, Forget Dallen for a minute. You wish

1013
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,400
that Dawson and Nate weren't injured.

1014
00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 3: This is true because even if they weren't playing well,

1015
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,719
they would still be in the game. If they were

1016
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,760
trying harder, Absolutely they'd be in the game.

1017
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 2: You could.

1018
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,039
Speaker 3: You bench Cannon for Trey Stewart and ma what Mac,

1019
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:17,800
that's it.

1020
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:18,559
Speaker 6: That's what you did.

1021
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:21,159
Speaker 3: And you don't have the body, so you can't people accountability.

1022
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,320
Ron Well, you can't have a Kelson Sands and yelling

1023
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,159
at Kingston Fleming saying hey, stop shooting threes, take twos

1024
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:28,440
because well, Kevin Young's looking down at the bench like,

1025
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,800
well it's Alexi and he can't go create so kud

1026
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:33,519
of pigeonholes.

1027
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really hard to hold people accountable. Like humans,

1028
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:45,679
we move upon incentives and accountability right now, you move

1029
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,079
either due to an incentive or accountability component on what

1030
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:50,519
you're doing.

1031
00:48:50,639 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 2: Period. That's what human nature is.

1032
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's any accountability right now, Like

1033
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,719
that's gonna move rob right to hedge on the screen

1034
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,480
and or like fight through a screen or move his feet.

1035
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: I just don't see it anyway.

1036
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:09,679
Speaker 1: You get him the ball his hand and tell him

1037
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:12,239
to go get a bucket, like, yeah, he's a mongoose.

1038
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,000
I mean he's he's Tim Hardaway, you know what I mean.

1039
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:19,599
He's Tim Hardaway senior man. That dude is uh, he

1040
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,320
is twitchy. Twenty three points.

1041
00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:23,519
Speaker 2: AJ. Let's get back to AJ. AJ.

1042
00:49:23,639 --> 00:49:26,159
Speaker 1: How did you feel like you played and how did

1043
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:30,360
the second half effort differ maybe compared.

1044
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 13: To the first, like coach said, effrow was just way

1045
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,320
better than the second half. But we just gotta figure

1046
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,159
out a way to, you know, start the game like that.

1047
00:49:36,199 --> 00:49:37,639
We always want to start. We don't always want to

1048
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:39,559
start slow. You never really want to start slow. But

1049
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:42,679
it feels like every every single game starting slow. But individually,

1050
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,360
I mean I gotta play. I mean could have played

1051
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,400
way better, could have gotten more rebounds, Morris try to

1052
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,400
get my teams a ball, like coach said, Effrow.

1053
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:55,519
Speaker 1: Just yeah, Look, I see great effort offensive than AJ,

1054
00:49:55,639 --> 00:49:57,880
And at times I see great effort from him defensively.

1055
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: He gets a.

1056
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,519
Speaker 1: Little bit I think a little bit easy with his

1057
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:02,880
defensive effort, like when he's off ball, like when he's

1058
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,880
on ball, Like, I feel like he's pretty pretty high effort.

1059
00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:10,400
So I'd like to see him like maybe winding the same, Yeah,

1060
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:12,880
the way Jeff Goodman said the exact thing that you

1061
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,199
just saw.

1062
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, he said that on the podcast.

1063
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: On Yeah, like like like it's what's really basic stuff,

1064
00:50:18,519 --> 00:50:21,639
Like it's like when you're an off ball defender, you're

1065
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:23,519
between your man and the ball and you use your

1066
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:26,440
peripheral vision with what AJ does a lot.

1067
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:27,199
Speaker 2: Just watch him.

1068
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: He looks at the ball and then he looks back

1069
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,239
at his at his the guy he's guard. He looks

1070
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,119
at the ball and you you don't do that. That's

1071
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:38,440
freaking wasted everything. He's when you look straight ahead and

1072
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,119
you use your damn peripheral vision and you just wind

1073
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,840
your stance and you you you hold your arms out

1074
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,039
so you kind of have like a point of reference.

1075
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,880
Your one hand is pointing towards the ball and the

1076
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,800
other one's pointing towards your defender. Like I learned this

1077
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,920
like as a sixth grade basketball player on like my

1078
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:02,119
my All Star travel team. Like it's it's just it's

1079
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:05,159
really fazing. Like he wastes a bunch of effort. You

1080
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:08,679
mentioned he's tired, Ronnie. Yeah, you don't even have to move.

1081
00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:11,840
You just look forward and use your dang freaking peripheral vision.

1082
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,159
Maybe he's got narrow he's got does he have narrow

1083
00:51:14,159 --> 00:51:14,880
eyeballs and he.

1084
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 6: Can't see other people?

1085
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like I wonder if there's

1086
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,679
like a hey, I don't know if so and so

1087
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,840
has got that. So I gotta watch my guy and

1088
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,239
that guy because I'm worried about what's going. But but

1089
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,159
he's looking at the ball and then looking back in

1090
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:30,519
the like he he does this little kind of walk.

1091
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,119
He's kind of like walking in place, and his arms

1092
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:34,679
are kind of dangling and he looks back.

1093
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: Watch him. Just watch him next time. No, no, just

1094
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:38,360
watch them.

1095
00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying, because I just watch him

1096
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,039
and he looks back to play where he's trying to

1097
00:51:42,039 --> 00:51:44,000
like get a steel though, because I've seen that where

1098
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,079
he's read to play and gotten the steel, does he

1099
00:51:46,119 --> 00:51:47,960
think what his length? He can do that? Because I'm like,

1100
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,239
why are you trying to but.

1101
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,079
Speaker 1: You're wasting your You're literally by turning your head back

1102
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:54,159
and forth like this.

1103
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,159
Speaker 2: Just do it. Just just just do it.

1104
00:51:57,199 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 6: If he's cheating and then he ends up jumping the

1105
00:51:59,039 --> 00:51:59,880
past and that way.

1106
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,199
Speaker 1: You can see the same thing by using your peripheral vision.

1107
00:52:03,679 --> 00:52:05,760
You can see the same thing using your bre You

1108
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,119
don't have to look at the ball to see the ball.

1109
00:52:08,599 --> 00:52:11,079
Just sit there like this and use your purferal vision

1110
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:12,159
like I'm doing right now.

1111
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 2: Like how far laterally can.

1112
00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: You see if you bring your arms back, you know,

1113
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,719
before your your your hands disappear, Like that's your that's

1114
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,800
your court vision. That's literally your court vision. Like that's

1115
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,880
what I see. That's what I see from AJ. If

1116
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,800
I could change one thing about AJ, it would just

1117
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,280
be his off ball defense.

1118
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 7: The deal, like, and he would get I care you

1119
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,039
guys were playing defense. I don't even know that we're

1120
00:52:38,039 --> 00:52:39,239
having this conversation because.

1121
00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:39,679
Speaker 2: We're not necessario.

1122
00:52:40,639 --> 00:52:41,559
Speaker 3: We're not noticing it.

1123
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,039
Speaker 7: Because he's the only person who's given effort on defense.

1124
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:46,079
Not perfect effort, but he's one of the only people

1125
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:49,000
who's giving a high motor effort. Let's get into I

1126
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,239
want to get the rest of the sound, and we'll

1127
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,679
call this a segment. AJ, what was working for you

1128
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,679
offensively in the second half.

1129
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 13: Trying to stay more aggressive, you know, to try to

1130
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,320
get to my spots and raise up, not trying to

1131
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,280
put fade too much, just trying to find my guys

1132
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:04,599
so that hey three, I know Rob hid one early,

1133
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:06,199
but trying to find Alex and stuff like that.

1134
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say this much.

1135
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:12,199
Speaker 1: I think AJ early on in the season, remember his

1136
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:16,719
his dribble, dry penetration, pump eg getting guys up off balance,

1137
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,159
and then he would finish at that. You know afterwards

1138
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,719
it worked right, everyone scouted him now and so he

1139
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,880
just needs to trust his length on athleticism and just

1140
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,159
pull you know. I I think if he keeps doing that,

1141
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:31,599
gets your spot elevate pool. That's not a bad shot

1142
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:35,800
any anywhere AJ shoots it from quite honestly in rhythm

1143
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,000
is probably not a bad shot in my opinion, Rob,

1144
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:40,840
Why did the team struggle with turnovers in the first half.

1145
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 8: I think it was just a decision making.

1146
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,679
Speaker 10: Like coach said, we had a couple of turnovers with

1147
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,159
their aggressive defense, and then I feel like late game

1148
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,840
we had that one turnover at the end to let say,

1149
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,119
I feel like if we fixed that one and w

1150
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,880
probably be a different story.

1151
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 12: And even that Jay too, I think where you kind

1152
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,880
of going it sounds like you're questioning the execution is

1153
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:00,519
second half.

1154
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:02,199
Speaker 8: I mean that that turnover he's referencing.

1155
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't know if I would point that

1156
00:54:03,519 --> 00:54:05,920
to execution as it was just is a broken player

1157
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,760
is the wrong decision. But in terms of things we

1158
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,679
actually had to execute offensively, I thought we you know,

1159
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,760
we came out of timeouts, got he got a good

1160
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,639
good look at a three, and so I think where

1161
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:17,880
you're going, I would point it more to decision making

1162
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,639
than I would execution, which was was this the case

1163
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:24,360
in the first half. You know these two guys, I

1164
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,039
thought he wasn't great with his decision making the first half.

1165
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 8: Second half did a much better job. Thought Rob had

1166
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,719
a steady hand all night.

1167
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 12: Playing forty straight minutes again tonight, and so there look,

1168
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,280
there there are things that we can definitely take from

1169
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,639
this game that was a positive.

1170
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:41,679
Speaker 8: But you know, you're just disappointed to come up short.

1171
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,639
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean they're gonna say decision making,

1172
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,159
and it's spot on you. I mean you you know

1173
00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:55,440
it's it's it's decision making. It's it's just being lazy, right,

1174
00:54:55,679 --> 00:54:57,280
and uh, it is what it is.

1175
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:57,639
Speaker 2: AJ.

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Speaker 1: What has the team learned from this past month, because

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it's been such an up and down time.

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Speaker 13: I'm just trying to, you know, learn from the wins

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and losses, the good things that we've done in the

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wins and the bad thing he's done the loss, and

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trying to just translate that to you know, the upcoming one.

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Speaker 2: AJ.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, AJ, how well let me get through this.

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Speaker 2: How well? Uh did Brennan Laurian guard you in this game?

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Speaker 1: Here?

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Speaker 13: You solid you know, he sent me into the double,

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which is probably their defensive scheme. And I've seen a

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lot of bodies tonight, so credit him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, good defensive, especially in the first half. Uh.

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And uh, But like I said, I think if if AJ.

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Speaker 1: Pools rather than plumps all the time, I think he's

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going to make more than any missers. Kevin, what's your

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message to the team going forward heading into March.

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Speaker 8: Well, first of I appreciate your question to AJ how

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you worded it.

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Speaker 12: You know, I might steal that, Honestly, the trash can

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throw it all in there.

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Speaker 8: Man, February is over with, so you know, it's been hard.

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Speaker 12: I'll be honest, it's been a it's been the whole

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season has been full of adversity and uh and I

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don't go to philosophical very often, but you know, it's

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that's life.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 12: Crap happens, and you got to freaking figure out a

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way to get through hard stuff, is the bottom line.

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And so the thing I am proud of our group

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for staying together. You know, it has been challenging. There's

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no getting around. Richie gets all the headlines. But I mean,

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we've got five guys who aren't playing for us right now,

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you know, two three of which would be rotation guys.

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And so you can either make an excuse about that

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or you can throw it in a trash can, like

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you said. And and we've still proven that we can

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play with the best teams even with the injuries that

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we had, and so we we have to galvanize ourselves.

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You know, I thought we were and the thing that

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I'm kind of dumbfounded on is I thought after that

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big win against Iowa State, we would be able to

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galvanize ourselves a little more than we have. And so

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that's my message to the guys is you know what

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they want is still in front of them. You know,

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we we obviously have some work to do, but you

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do kind of have to throw it in a trash

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can and at some point you just got to decide

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this is who we want to be.

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Speaker 1: There's a few like an excuse or was he giving,

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you know, kind of a balanced approach to what's happening here.

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Speaker 7: That's exactly what I think, because I think he is

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going in on him. We heard what he said after

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the UCF game, like see you for film tomorrow, Like yeah,

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I do think he's trying to balance of like I'm

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gonna give you respect as a human being, yeah, but

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I'm also.

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Speaker 6: Gonna get on you and you.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm assuming he's smiling because you could hear

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his tone change when he was talking about the trash

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can throw it all in, which I think is a

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good way of looking at it. And b why you

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needs it because if you get so negative, then it's

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to the point where it's like, why are we even

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playing basketball?

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Speaker 6: We should just quit right now. And that's not what

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you want.

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Speaker 7: You want to push them to the point of wanting

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to be better, and to his point, throwing it all

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in the trash can and getting ready for March.

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Speaker 2: Throw it all the trash can. Then let's get ready

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for March.

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Speaker 1: Please, please, no more trash, no more what we're all

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of the uh?

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Speaker 2: What're all the adjectives that he used about this game?

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Speaker 1: But it was a joke. Abysmal, abysmal? Did you use atrocious?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Let's go to break. That's our segment.

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