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Speaker 2: What's that sound? What's that sound? Get out my way?

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Speaker 3: O burns down Maxie, scream and shout, and I'll.

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Speaker 4: Turn this town around.

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Speaker 5: Stop and look this way. I made some insupicious. What

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I say is what I say, And this is a travesty.

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The earth is trying to now and you don't see

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the tragedy. It's all blurring all it's one and dies

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a blinded. We think it's typical, but that's just cause

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we're so shallow.

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Speaker 3: My dad, what's that sound? What's that sound? Get out

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of my way?

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Speaker 2: Oh burns down Maxie and scream.

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Speaker 5: And shout, and I turn this town around, pe everywhere,

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pivot your parts and nurture and to care for this

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world of ice.

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Speaker 2: I believe the earth will no longer fall apart.

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Speaker 5: We can do little Bax cut and find a pistol

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less forever.

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Speaker 6: What's it sound?

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Speaker 2: What's it sound?

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Speaker 7: Get down my way?

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Speaker 2: I burns down, Mixie and scream.

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Speaker 3: And show pan outs on this town round. What's it sound?

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Speaker 2: What's it sound?

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Speaker 6: Get down my way?

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Speaker 2: I burns down Bixie and scream.

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Speaker 3: And shower pan outs on this town around.

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Speaker 1: What's it town? Turn?

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Speaker 5: This Town round?

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Speaker 2: What's it sound?

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Speaker 6: What's it sound?

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Speaker 1: What's it sound?

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Speaker 6: Down? Alway?

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Speaker 7: I pun down.

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Speaker 5: Basie and scream and shower head.

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Speaker 3: I'll turn this well sound what's sounds down?

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Speaker 2: Makes stream the shop?

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Speaker 7: And how t is time?

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Speaker 8: That is Turn This Town Around, the debut single from Lydia.

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Ready here and this is Matt Connorton Unleashed. We are

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live from the studios of w m n H ninety

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five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire, and

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of course you can stream the show from anywhere. Matt

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connorton dot com. Slash Live. Jenny is here as well,

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of course and joining us via Microsoft Teams. Let's see Lydia.

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Are you there? Yes, Amia, Hello, Hey, welcome to the program.

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Good to speak with you. Thanks for having me, absolutely

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absolutely so. We love that song, very very catchy. Of course,

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Turn This Town Around and this is your debut single, correct, Yes,

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is very good? And where are you from?

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Speaker 4: I'm from Blackburn in England?

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Speaker 8: Okay, wonderful? Yeah, no, there's there's so much great music

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coming out of that part of the world and I'm

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curious too, So this is are you. I was listening

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to a podcast of you being interviewed on another show. Now,

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are you currently in school as well? Are you in college?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in college, but we've just started some holidays.

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Speaker 8: Oh okay, okay, very good. So you've got a lot

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going on. You're you're obviously very busy, uh, you know,

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with your education and the music career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: But uh, but it's cool that, uh, you know, you

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come out of the gate with a very strong track,

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and like I said, it's very catchy. But I also

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I'm curious to know more about the lyrics because you know,

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the first time when we first got this song, I

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was listening to it and it's like, oh, yeah, it's

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really catchy, it's fun and whatnot. But then the second

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bit more attention to the lyrics, and it sounds like

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there's there's a deeper meaning to this, you know, and

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you're expressing some some concern about things. And I wanted

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to ask you about about what the song really means,

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because I kind of feel like it might not necessarily

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mean what I thought it meant the first time I

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listened to it, If that makes sense. Yeah, okay, So.

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Speaker 9: The song is about making a difference the sound that

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is kind of a call to action, and it's pretty

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much shay in stop how you live your dead to

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day life and try to live in a way that

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will help the earth rather than hinder it.

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Speaker 4: So that's kind of the message behind the song.

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and when you say that too. But so when you

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sense in terms of what you put out into the world.

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when you talk about helping the earth.

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the idea of, like the lyrics, lights a blurring into

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lights are lights from all this technology.

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a pretty serious message, but it's a fun, catchy song,

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and I feel like that's that's a pretty effective way. Historically,

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then they hear a song that is catchy and kind

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of infectious, and so they're getting the message without realizing

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that they're getting the message, and they're you know, sometimes

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here that you're also getting. If only on a subconscious level, right?

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think it's just gonna be all serious and you're not

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gonna want to listen to it. So I thought, how

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can I make this is a perfect mix between being

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want to know more, which is why I kind of

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Speaker 4: You never really know, you never get the answer.

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Speaker 9: It makes you want to find out more, which would

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Speaker 8: Mm hmmmmm. No, I like that. Now, what's what's your

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long term plan? Because I'm curious, obviously this is your

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the moment, uh with turning this down around?

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Speaker 9: Other songs that are going to be recorded. I'm actually

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five track EP that comes out. That's going to be

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I've got this big idea I'm going to do kind

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of the Elements is EPs, so Fire, Earth, Water, and Air.

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Speaker 9: Then, for example, Fire is going to be all my rocky,

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angry songs. Water is going to be my sad songs,

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and Earth is kind of going to be my kind

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of togetherness songs. And I have got some more songs

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about the Earth and that kind of thing. And then

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album with a few extra tracks called in my Element

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very cool.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, so when I asked you that question, I

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didn't know if maybe you were just gonna be like, oh, no,

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a whole plan, which I think is great. And I

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help you succeed, you know, because so many people and

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sticks and just try to kind of feel our way

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through it. But but I think to succeed in the

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music industry, it really helps if you actually have a plan,

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Speaker 9: So'net release the first week that I go back to college,

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Speaker 4: Cool, and then I'm just going to try to do

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Speaker 9: So for my next year, on my eighteenth birthday, instead

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of having a big party or anything, I'm going to

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put on a gig, a headline one in Manchester because

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Speaker 8: Okay, and yeah, I'm hoping.

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Speaker 8: Oh fantastic. Yeah, you really do have a plan. That's

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that's excellent. I'm curious, by the way, what's your major?

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Speaker 9: So I'm currently doing two A levels and a B Tech.

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the other is your minor. So you're so you're you're

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majoring and what did you say it was?

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Speaker 8: Oh, I see it at college.

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Speaker 4: It's all a bit different.

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Speaker 9: I'll start university next year, so this time next year

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Speaker 8: Oh good, good, okay, I get it. Okay, very cool,

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very cool. That's that's excellent. Yeah. Yeah, And now in

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terms of recording, uh, where did you where did you

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record Turn this down Around? Because again, we live in

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an era where you know, you can you can record

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in so many different ways, as I know just from

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that there's you know, no shortage of recording studios, just

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like in America there's there's recording studios you can or

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you can record at home, or you can do it.

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Speaker 4: So?

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I actually recorded Turn This Town Around, they were in

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the process of moving to a new studio space, so

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at that time they didn't have a permanent studio, so

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we actually recorded it in they're called Imogen and James.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, but she'd never know.

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Speaker 9: Because you hear that compared to the other songs I've

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got from them, and they all sound the same. Yeah,

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but yeah, we recorded that one in a shed, but

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then the other ones they've got their permanent place now

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in Blackburn, it's absolutely incredible. They've got the studio that

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they run, and then they're also hiring out another little

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space to another recording engineer. That the people who have

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recorded all of my brother's songs in the past for

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Speaker 4: Know them really well and they're really good at all

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they do.

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Speaker 8: Now, I didn't want to ask about your brother too,

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because I was listening to a podcast that you were

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on and you were talking about your brother. And it's

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funny because when the subject first came up, my first

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thought was, and I don't know if I'm the first

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one to ever say this to you, but my first

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thought was, oh, is this a Billie Eilish kind of

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thing where your brother, you know, does a lot of

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the production and plays the instruments and whatnot. But I

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but actually, but then listening to it further, it sounds

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like you work separately, right or maybe not? Is he involved?

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Is he directly involved in anything that you're doing musically?

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Speaker 9: So we don't write the songs together. But he is

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a better guitarist than me. He can play bass, he

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can do pretty much any instrument. He's a little bit

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better than me. So he goes the recorded studio and

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always records the instruments for me.

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Speaker 8: Just bet that's cool.

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Speaker 4: Apart from the drums.

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a professional drummer, so he always puts the drums on

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my track.

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Speaker 8: Is it helpful having your brother involved in the sense

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that because you're sibling, you know, sometimes siblings have kind

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of a an intuitive connection, uh when it comes to music.

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I mean, do you do you do you find that

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with him? Like, like, if you're trying to convey an

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idea to him, is it is it easy for him

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to get it because he's already kind of thinking, you're

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kind of thinking on that same wavelength.

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Speaker 4: It usually is quite easy.

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Speaker 9: I'll just kind of sometimes I'll have something in my

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head and it's to say. With some of my mates

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who are musicians, I'll go, right, I want it.

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Speaker 4: Stud like this, do do do?

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Speaker 3: Do? Do?

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Speaker 1: Do do do?

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Speaker 4: And then they just play it on guitar and I'm like,

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how did you do that? I can only play cards?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. But yeah, no,

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that that's great though? That that now does he also

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he also does his own music, correct he does? Yes, yeah,

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what kind of music does he do. Is it more

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of a kind of a rock thing or what.

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Speaker 4: So for years he's been doing kind of indie pop rock.

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Speaker 9: Okay, well, he's started university last year, so what he's

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done is he's kind of taken a year off music

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properly just to kind of get to Uni. But now

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he's got two years after you in the and he's

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properly going for his music again. He's on a music

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management court and he's got the opportunity to manage himself,

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so he can do a lot of it during his

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last time as well. So he's decided to do a

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new vibe of music because he's always kind of liked

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his songs, but it's never been the kind of thing

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he'd listened to.

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Speaker 4: He was trying to appeal to an audience.

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Speaker 9: But now he's decided to write the stuff that he

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listens to, which is, oh so many random people, kind

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of sleep Token, Bring Me the Horizon, Don Broca, and

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Too Shakhari.

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Speaker 4: He's saying that he's.

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Speaker 9: Doing folk metal, which has never really been done before.

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He's trying to merge those two genres. So it's kind

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of frank ternery but also kind of metal, and it

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sounds really, really cool.

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Speaker 8: Oh I'm curious. Yeah, very interesting, very interesting.

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Speaker 4: I've never heard anything like it.

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Speaker 9: I've seen heard bits like it, but never anything like

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that that he's come up with, so it's really impressive.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, ccellent, excellent. Now are you are you again?

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I know this is your first single, but are you

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performing live at all? Are you? Have you done this

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song live or is that is that part of your

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playing down the road?

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I have performed it live a few times.

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Speaker 9: Earlier in the year, I played the after All Festival,

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which is the biggest grassroots festival in Manchester, and that

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was really cool. I didn't expect anyone to turn up

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because I was quite early in the day as it

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was my first ever set of all originals, but I

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actually ended up having sixty to eighty people in the

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room and quite a few people that I knew as well,

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which was really nice who came to see me who

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were doing their own sets later in the day.

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Speaker 4: So I've performed there. That was the main one.

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Speaker 9: But then also I get to do a lot of

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college performances and various pub gigs. If they something I

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usually stick to covers at pubs, but if they seem

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like they'd be nice and let me do one of

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my own.

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Speaker 4: Then I'll stick that in.

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Speaker 8: Oh that's cool. Do you so when you do that?

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Do you do you do covers and then you you

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also include this song? Or how does that work?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: So I'd say the average gig is two forty five

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minute sets. Yeah, so usually put one original in each set.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Well sometimes if you can tell it's one it's a

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really hyper audience that just wants to hear bangrafter bang

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of songs that they know that they can sing along to,

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then I'll just call it the originals.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, I yeah, I understand. Yeah that makes sense. Now,

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by the way, is there a video for Turn the

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Sound Around? Or is it just the single?

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Speaker 4: No, there isn't a video for that one.

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Speaker 9: We're thinking we'll get a video for one of the

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songs from the EP, but I'm not sure which one yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I might.

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Speaker 9: I might make a YouTube channel and do a lyric

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video for it, or maybe just even record myself lip syncing.

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Speaker 4: So there's something there, but nothing proper.

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Speaker 8: I think doing a lyric video for Turn the Sound

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Around is a really good idea, because again, that's that's

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a way too Like I said, if somebody likes the

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song and then they watched the lyric video and then

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it's like, you know, like we were talking about earlier,

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they're kind of getting the message. There's an important message

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there being conveyed through a song that's that's kind of

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fun and catchy. So I think that's great. So Lydia,

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I really appreciate you joining us this morning. We'll let

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you go in a moment, and I think we'll to

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end the segment. We'll give turn this Town around another

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spin for people who are just joining us. But please

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tell us where is the best place for people to

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go to keep up with everything that you're doing, so

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they can keep an eye out for new music as

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has come in. Like I said, you've got a lot

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of new stuff coming up in the future, so we

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want to make sure people know where should they go

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online to keep up with Lydia Ready.

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Speaker 9: So to see myself, I've got an Instagram, Facebook, and

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TikTok all under Lydia Ready music ready.

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Speaker 4: To spell r E D d hy.

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Speaker 9: I do have a Twitter, but I barely have a

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post on it, so maybe don't go on that understood?

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Speaker 8: Gotcha? Very good? Very good? All right, Lydia, we will

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let you go again. Thank you so much. We will

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definitely do this again in the Yeah, we'll definitely do

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this again in the future as you as you release

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your music. So love what you're doing. And we will

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close this segment with again we're gonna play turn this

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Town Around, your debut single, and Lydia thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 8: See you got it all right? Bye bye, all right,

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that was Lydia ready and here it is if you

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missed it again, this is called turn this town around?

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Speaker 2: What's that sound? What's that sound? It out our way?

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A burns down? Make see scream and shout, hand out,

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turn this.

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Speaker 3: Town around, stop and look this way.

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Speaker 5: I made some use officials. What us see is what

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I see, and this is a travesty. The earth is

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Try to now and you don't see the tragedy. It's

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a blurring al it's one and I is a blinded.

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We think it's typical, but that's just cars.

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Speaker 1: What's so shallow?

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Speaker 6: Mine? Dad?

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Speaker 3: What's that sound? What's that sound? Get out my way

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or burns down? Mixie and scream and shout and I'll.

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Speaker 2: Turn this town round. Peep everywhere.

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Speaker 5: Pivot your parts and nurture, ant care for this world

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of ours.

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Speaker 2: I believe the earth will no longer fall apart.

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Speaker 1: We can do.

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Speaker 5: Little back to Cather and find a piece of less forever.

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Speaker 6: What's that sound?

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Speaker 1: What's it sound?

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Speaker 6: O my way?

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Speaker 2: O burns down, mixie and scream.

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Speaker 5: And shout, pan out, turn this town round?

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Speaker 2: What's it sound? What's it sound?

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Speaker 6: And get out my way?

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Speaker 3: Or burns down, mixie and scream and shout, pan out

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on this town around?

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Speaker 2: What's itun?

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Speaker 1: Turn this?

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Speaker 2: What's that sounds?

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Speaker 1: It sounds sound?

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Speaker 3: Puts down, bakesy and scream and shout. And also on

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this town around, wells it sound? What's it sound? Moy

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booms down, bakesy, scream and shout.

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Speaker 6: And also on this town round.

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Speaker 8: There it is? That is Lydia already turned this town

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around a great track, and we look forward to hearing

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more from her in the future. And sounds like yeah

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like I like I said to uh to Lydia, you

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know she's got a she's got a really detailed long

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term plan, which is great. I was impressed because you

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don't see that a lot. I love that song, you know,

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in terms of oh yeah, absolutely, especially kind of knowing

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realizing because like I said, I didn't I guess the

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first time I listened to it, I didn't pay close

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enough attention of the lyrics. And then I listened to

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it again and I was like, Oh, this is something more,

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something more going on here. But there's let's see, we're

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gonna do I think a little more music news here.

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dot com, slash Live. And we weren't gonna talk, so

476
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I kind of had a different idea of what we're

477
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going to talk about this segment. But then I realized something.

478
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So you had mentioned, Jenny, there's new information regarding this

479
00:22:52,880 --> 00:23:03,000
lawsuit Salt and Pepa versus UMG Universal Music Group, And oh,

480
00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:05,240
I just got a text message. By the way, oh

481
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,759
the Stiff Tones are here.

482
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,599
Speaker 10: I shall.

483
00:23:09,079 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 8: Our our three guests has arrived, so Jenny's gonna go

484
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,759
let them in. But yeah, Universal disputes Salt and Pepe's

485
00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:20,599
termination rights claim says the rappers never transferred any recording

486
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,000
rights to their label. The reason I decided I wanted

487
00:23:24,039 --> 00:23:27,720
to pivot to this story is because UMG Universal Music

488
00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:30,160
Group seems to come up a lot on the show,

489
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,119
because it seems like Universal Music Group is constantly either

490
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,960
being sued or countersuing somebody. I remember months ago we

491
00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:43,720
talked about the Olympiscuit lawsuit against UMG. There's always something

492
00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:47,920
with UMG. Always seems to be something sketchy going on. Obviously,

493
00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:50,279
the point of view that we come from with this

494
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,039
show is we always will advocate and support artists and

495
00:23:54,079 --> 00:23:59,599
the rights of artists. And it is not an unusual

496
00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:03,880
or rare tale to hear about artists getting screwed over

497
00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:06,880
in the music industry, and very often it happens at

498
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:12,359
the hands of these big labels and Universal Music Group.

499
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If you are gauging this based on the number of

500
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lawsuits involving UMG, they might be the number one offenders

501
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,440
in terms of screwing over the artists that they represent. Now,

502
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I understand the two sides to every story, or maybe three,

503
00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:29,079
you know, they say this three sides yours mind and

504
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,599
the truth, and these things are not always as simple

505
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,119
as they might appear. But again, you know, on this show,

506
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,720
we have a specific point of view. This is a

507
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:43,440
very independent, artist centric radio show, so we have a

508
00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:45,640
point of view that we will always defend and stick

509
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,039
up for artists and advocate for artists. And Universal Music

510
00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:52,599
Group certainly doesn't need our help and support. So so

511
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:55,839
this is this is an update. This just happened. This

512
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just went up on well, this actually went up on

513
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an number of places, Billboard dot com and various sites.

514
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But this just went up yesterday, so it says here.

515
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Earlier this year, Assault and PEPA sued UMG, claiming that

516
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the major label was refusing to allow them to reclaim

517
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the rights to their nineteen eighties recordings, even though copyright

518
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law allows them to terminate any transfer of rights after

519
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thirty five years. The major now says there was never

520
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any transfer of rights to terminate. So this gets into

521
00:25:29,759 --> 00:25:33,279
the weeds a little bit. But you know, because again

522
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,759
sometimes artists, major artists, this happens. I mean, it can

523
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:41,559
happen with any artists at any level. But you know,

524
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and again people outside the industry might not know this,

525
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but you know, just because you create music and put

526
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:49,799
music out, release music, doesn't mean you own the rights

527
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:52,519
to it, and there's you know, there's publishing rights, and

528
00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:56,079
there's your masters, your master recordings and various things. And

529
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depending on what kind of a contract you have, you're

530
00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:02,160
late might own the rights to your publishing. They might

531
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,240
own the rights to your masters. Sometimes artists will go

532
00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:11,240
and you know, Taylor Swift, as a means of reclaiming

533
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,200
the rights to her material, actually went and re recorded everything.

534
00:26:16,839 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 10: And now, who was somebody just bought back their whole catalog?

535
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,200
I thought that was her. I thought it was Taylor

536
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,680
Swift that bought back their whole catalgy.

537
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 8: I think she was. She did something where but it

538
00:26:24,839 --> 00:26:30,839
involved her re recording for her music. Yeah, so that

539
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,359
way she doesn't need the original masters. She just re

540
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,240
recorded everything. Def Leppard did something similar, like I don't know,

541
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,319
ten fifteen years ago, but that had something to do

542
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,400
with iTunes and that was a complicated thing. But so

543
00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:47,160
this is what it says here. This is the update.

544
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:51,880
Universal Music has asked a US court to dismiss the

545
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,759
termination rights lawsuit filed against it by rap duo Assault

546
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and Peppa. The major says that while US copyright law

547
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allows creators to terminate a transfer of rights or grant

548
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,599
of rights after thirty five years. Salt and Peppa never

549
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,519
actually granted any rights in their nineteen eighties record deals,

550
00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:15,240
which means there's nothing to terminate now. The relevant agreements

551
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,680
under which Salt and Peppa's recordings were created quote contain

552
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:23,960
no grant of copyright rights unquote from the rappers. A

553
00:27:24,039 --> 00:27:27,240
new legal filing from the major claims a producer the

554
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,559
duo worked with did grant some rights in one arrangement.

555
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,400
I'm sorry in one agreement, but neither Salt nor Pepa

556
00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:38,640
were directly involved in that part of the deal, and

557
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:41,759
a grant of rights. Universal adds as quote a fundamental

558
00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:45,720
requirement of the Copyright Acts termination provisions unquote. That fact,

559
00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:48,839
it says, was confirmed in a previous termination rights legal

560
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,920
battle involving Universal, in which the litigious artists were represented

561
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,079
by the same lawyers as Salt and Peppa. Those attorneys

562
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,519
may now have quote chosen to ignore that decision unquote,

563
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:02,880
it says, but there is still quote no basis for

564
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,119
any different result here. Quote. Unsurprisingly, Salt and Pepa an

565
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,200
are not impressed with Universal's arguments, a spokesperson told Billboard

566
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:14,039
quote the Copyright Act was designed to give artists a

567
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,400
chance to reclaim ownership of their work, which is precisely

568
00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:20,440
what Salt and Peppa have been attempting to do, and

569
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,880
UMG continues to resist unquote the major's arguments, UMG, the

570
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,039
spokesperson added, quote are just what we expected, an effort

571
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:33,559
to avoid addressing the core issues facing Salt and Peppa

572
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,920
and so many other artists in these circumstances. But we

573
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:39,480
remain confident that the facts and the law are on

574
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,039
our side unquote. Salt and Peppa real names Cheryl James

575
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:49,119
and Sandra Denton, sued Universal in May after it knocked

576
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,880
back the duo's efforts to reclaim ownership of their nineteen

577
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:57,039
eighties albums by exercising the termination right. At the time,

578
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,000
they said that the major was employing heavy handed tactics

579
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,799
which might work on lesser known artists, but Salt and

580
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,759
Pepa quote would not tolerate any disrespect from UMG unquote.

581
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,079
It is true there are some complications relating to the

582
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,599
termination right under US law, which in music apply more

583
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,359
on the recording side than with publishing contracts if an

584
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,000
artist is employed. Okay, now this gets into the weeds,

585
00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:25,319
but this is important in order for us to understand

586
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,240
what's happening here. So if an artist is employed by

587
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:32,640
a label on a work for higher basis, then the

588
00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:37,000
label owns the copyright in the recordings by default, so

589
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,119
there is no transfer of rights. And by the way,

590
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,519
so that's that's no different than any employer that you

591
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,200
work for, or if you're freelancing, but you know, you

592
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:49,720
sign some sort of contract that might say this your

593
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,839
work product for that employer, you don't own it. Your

594
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,400
employer owns it. So in theory, anything that you create develop,

595
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,480
et cetera, for that employer like you, you don't get

596
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:02,000
to take that with you. If it's some sort of

597
00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:05,200
creative work that's owned by your employer, you created it

598
00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:08,440
under their direction. And you know, we can have arguments

599
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,880
about whether that's fair or not or whether it depends

600
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,920
on the situation, which it probably does, whether it's fair

601
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,480
or not, et cetera. But but that's basically it's it's

602
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:18,960
no different than that. So if you're employed by a

603
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:23,519
label doing whatever, you're a recording artist, or you're a producer,

604
00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:26,400
or you're you work in a and R or I

605
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,279
don't even know what jobs exist at at these labels anymore,

606
00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:34,599
because everything's changed so much. But but uh, I mean

607
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,480
I did some work for Artemis Records, but that was

608
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:40,839
a long time ago, so everything's different now. But anyway,

609
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,480
but the point being, you know that that label is

610
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:50,759
most likely going to own whatever you create for that label. Okay,

611
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,519
so things again, going back to the article, things also

612
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:57,400
get complicated where artists do deals with producers and then

613
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,359
producers do deals with label. So you're the artist, you

614
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,200
have a deal with your your producer, and your deal

615
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,880
with your producer is your deal, but they've got another deal.

616
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:13,920
And again, this happens. This doesn't just happen in the

617
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,279
music industry. This can happen in any industry, any type

618
00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:20,200
of business situation. You've got a deal with somebody and

619
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:22,960
that's your deal with that entity, but that entity also

620
00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:25,279
they have their own deal with somebody that might affect

621
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:28,279
your deal in ways that you don't know because you

622
00:31:28,319 --> 00:31:30,599
don't know about the other deal, and you can't anticipate

623
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,880
how that's going to affect you.

624
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 10: This is all confusing to you. What is it like

625
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:36,720
for the artist?

626
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,119
Speaker 11: You know?

627
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,519
Speaker 8: What it reminds me of. It reminds me of like

628
00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:41,960
when I was a kid, if like I had a

629
00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:44,759
friend and This is probably something that's happened to people.

630
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:47,200
I think people will find this example relatable. But I

631
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,160
remember this happening to me once, Like a friend borrows

632
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,640
a dollar from me because so they can get something

633
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:57,519
like a milk with their lunch or something. Right like

634
00:31:57,599 --> 00:31:59,480
when I'm a kid that bars a dollar from me,

635
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,279
and then they tell me they're going to pay me back.

636
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,359
But then when I go to collect, when they say, oh, yeah,

637
00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:06,079
i'll pay you back tomorrow. And then I go to

638
00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:12,079
them tomorrow and they say, oh, yeah, I don't owe

639
00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:15,400
you that because somebody else borrowed a dollar from me,

640
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,920
So now they owe you that dollar. You know what

641
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,680
I mean? Yes, like I'm not paying you back. No, no,

642
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:23,359
you have to go get the dollar from this other

643
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,160
person who I loan money to. Now they owe you

644
00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:29,039
the money, which is such a BS way to do things.

645
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,400
But but you know, that type of thing would happen.

646
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:33,240
And then, of course, and then we don't know what

647
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:35,240
happens next. Right, you go to the person and then

648
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:36,759
they say, what why are you trying to get a

649
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:39,920
dollar for me? I don't know you a dollar? Why

650
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,359
why does your deal with this person affect me? And

651
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:49,319
so forth and you know. Anyway, Universal argues that these

652
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,960
things apply in this case in legal It's legal filing

653
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,440
runs through the complicated series of deals between James and

654
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:05,480
Denton and producer Asar, between the producer and Next Plateau Records,

655
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,400
and between Next Plateau Records and London Records, which is

656
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:12,960
now part of Universal. See, these things get very, very

657
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:15,720
very complicated by the way. This is an example too,

658
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:21,720
because things get so complicated. Remember when Limp Biscuits sued

659
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:26,599
UH and that's ongoing. I believe their lawsuit against UMG.

660
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:32,000
The I forget her name now her actual name, but

661
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,839
her YouTube channel is top Music Attorney, and she talks

662
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,400
about all this stuff. And I'm sure she has stuff

663
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,079
on her YouTube channel. I haven't looked at it recently.

664
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:40,240
I'm sure she has stuff on her YouTube channel about this.

665
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:43,400
She's an entertainment lawyer with a very successful YouTube channel.

666
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:47,519
And she says that UMG does something that is often

667
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:52,039
referred to as spaghetti accounting, where the accounting becomes so

668
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:57,359
complicated that you can't even audit it because it's so

669
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,559
and it's and it's by design, it's it's this is

670
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,519
done intentionally so that the label doesn't have to pay

671
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:08,559
you anything because they say, no, we don't owe you anything.

672
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,840
We still you know, there's still recruitment. You haven't your project,

673
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,519
your album whatever, hasn't made enough money, hasn't generated enough revenue,

674
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:21,239
so we don't owe you anything because you haven't your

675
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,199
your recruitment has not yet been fulfilled. And then you say, okay, well,

676
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,599
our lawyers are going to audit our account. And then

677
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,559
it's very difficult to do that because everything's a mess anyway,

678
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,360
but it's but it's an intentional mess.

679
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 12: That's one of the things that's in the Jane's addiction

680
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,320
lawsuit is that there was money fronted to them for

681
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,760
the tour ah and now they got to give it

682
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,079
or for the album. The promised an album going to happen,

683
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,039
So now all that money has to be given back.

684
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 8: Yep, yeah, yeah.

685
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 10: So her name is miss Crystal with a case.

686
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 8: Oh miss Crystal, thank you.

687
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 10: Yes, the number one music business school for artists. I

688
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,960
never do this existed?

689
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, no, Miss Crystal. She has a lot of

690
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,119
great content. Again, it's kind of stuff.

691
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 10: It's online classes and everything. We should get her on

692
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,320
if we can.

693
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,119
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that's a great idea. Yeah, I'd love to

694
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:09,199
have her on Yeah, and she's again, if you really

695
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,639
want to get into the weeds with this stuff, she's

696
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,400
Her YouTube channel is great and she explains things in

697
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,920
a way that, you know, someone like me, I'm not

698
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,159
an attorney, I have no legal training of any kind,

699
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,079
but she explains it in a way that it goes

700
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,880
very in depth, so I can I can understand because

701
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,800
I'm you know, I like that kind of stuff. I'm

702
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,760
obviously very interested in it, but without it getting so

703
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,039
far advanced with legal lees that I can't comprehend it,

704
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,000
you know what I mean exactly. So that's why I

705
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:39,920
recommend her if you're interested in this kind of thing.

706
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:42,079
You know, obviously, I mean, I never had any interest

707
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:43,880
in becoming an attorney, but if I had gone to

708
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,960
law school, my goal probably would have been to deal

709
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,800
with contract law and uh or I'd probably would be

710
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,880
an entertainment lawyer. And I find trademark law very interesting

711
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:59,159
and anything to do with copyrights and oh yeah, intellectual

712
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,800
property all that's fascinating to me. So that's probably the

713
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,880
kind of law had I taken that path, that I

714
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,000
would be practicing. But but yeah, so I do recommend

715
00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:11,480
her YouTube channel, Top Music Attorney on. Yeah, it's it's

716
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:13,960
pretty in depth, and I'm sure she has stuff about

717
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,639
this lawsuit on there. A little bit more to this,

718
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,920
it says, again, this is from the article. The whole

719
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:26,159
dispute pretty much swings on one line in a nineteen

720
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,119
eighty six agreement between James and Denton and Azor's Business,

721
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,480
which says that his production company quote shall be the

722
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:38,239
sole and exclusive owner of any and all rights, title,

723
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,840
and or interest in and to the master recordings recorded

724
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,079
here under, including but not limited to the worldwide sound

725
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:50,480
copyrights there and and the renewal rights thereof unquote.

726
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:52,679
Speaker 10: I think we should pass a lot that says everything

727
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:53,719
has to be written in English.

728
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,639
Speaker 8: Well, that's that's that's clear if you break it down,

729
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,320
I mean basically, I mean I can it's just the well, yeah,

730
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:03,400
but I can. But we can sum that up right.

731
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,800
In other words, Azor's Business owns everything, and that's what

732
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,000
that That's what that line says, that owns everything.

733
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:09,039
Speaker 1: That you are their.

734
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 12: Slave, isn't that That's why Prince wrote slave across his

735
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,599
cheek yep when he was fighting.

736
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 8: With his record And that's exactly the kind of thing

737
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,880
that if you have a really good entertainment lawyer, And

738
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:21,840
and you're presented with a contract like that, your entertainment

739
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,000
lawyer is going to say to you, I don't think

740
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:28,280
you should sign this. So it says here the question

741
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,920
is was that a simple statement of fact confirming Universal's

742
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,559
view that Azor's company was the default owner of the

743
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,639
sound recording copyrights created under the deal, or was it,

744
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,119
in fact a transfer of copyrights from the rappers to

745
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,519
the producer. Universal argues that other terms in the same

746
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:49,400
deal relating to their to other rights such as name

747
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,719
and likeness rights, include explicit language regarding the transfer of rights.

748
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:58,559
The fact that explicit language isn't that crucial, Uh, isn't

749
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:01,119
in that crucial term about the recording rights means no

750
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,039
transfer took place. It adds, we will see how the

751
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:07,360
court now deals with these arguments. If the judge does

752
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,199
ultimately rule against Universal, it has a second argument already

753
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,280
lined up that some of the key recordings under dispute

754
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:19,079
are remixes. See that gets complicated, and the termination right

755
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:22,440
doesn't apply to so called derivative works.

756
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 10: So anything they can do to rip off the artists.

757
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:30,039
Speaker 8: So even if James and Denton had transferred rights back

758
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:34,079
in the nineteen eighties, the termination right still wouldn't apply

759
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:37,920
to remixes organized by their labels while those labels were

760
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,360
in control of the main copyright. The second argument may

761
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,519
or may not be relevant in this dispute, but it

762
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:46,079
could nevertheless be a cause of concern for other artists

763
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:49,320
in those genres where remixes are common and who are

764
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,760
looking to exercise the termination right, especially where it's a

765
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,079
remix that proved to be the biggest.

766
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 10: Hit that's our I didn't even think about that.

767
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, it gets It gets very complicated.

768
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,559
It gets very complicated.

769
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 10: Humans make it.

770
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 8: So one other quick thing will do and then we'll

771
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,679
uh and then we'll play some more tunes. And if

772
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,559
you're just joining us live, of course we have the

773
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:18,159
Stiff Tones coming up in the third hour, and they're

774
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:19,000
already in the building.

775
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:21,199
Speaker 12: So in just in just a couple of minutes. What

776
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:23,320
do you mean, sort of not quite in the building.

777
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,920
They're at the building. Oh, they'll let me know when

778
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,239
they're ready to be in the building.

779
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,519
Speaker 8: Oh okay, gotcha, gotcha. This is from Digital Music News.

780
00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:33,599
Speaker 10: Out Front.

781
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:38,679
Speaker 8: There is an actual well, it does say online that's

782
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,880
one of their uh have hearst will travel very good,

783
00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:45,440
and they do very good.

784
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,119
Speaker 13: Uh.

785
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 8: Country Music Festival issues full refunds after failing to launch,

786
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:54,000
latest in spate of country festivals getting mixed until I

787
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:56,719
saw this. By the way, this sound occurred to me.

788
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,079
You don't see a lot of country music festivals, like big,

789
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:04,840
large scale festival, contrasting with rock festivals and hip hop festivals. Yeah,

790
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:08,360
lots of metal festivals, county country festivals, it seems like

791
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,079
you don't see as many of them. And apparently there's

792
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,320
some weird lights, like their curse or something, it says.

793
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,119
Michigan's Country Roads Music Festival issues full refunds following a

794
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:21,880
twenty twenty five cancelation, but plans to revive the event

795
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,559
for twenty twenty six, it says. It says. After Faster

796
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,400
Horses Music Festival announced its cancelation in January, event organizers

797
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,519
aimed to fill the void with the Country Roads Music

798
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:39,159
Festival at the same venue, the Michigan International Speedway. But

799
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,199
now Country Roads has been canceled, with plans to revive

800
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,920
the event next year. So what went wrong? Quote, All

801
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,400
tickets will be fully refunded. You don't need to do

802
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,519
a thing. We'll handle it on our end and make

803
00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:53,360
sure the money gets back to you as quickly as possible.

804
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:58,239
The post says, this community means the world to us,

805
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,440
and we can't wait to share something really special with

806
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:03,119
you in twenty twenty six. Oh I missed the first

807
00:41:03,159 --> 00:41:06,320
paragraph of that, So the first paragraph of the announcement says, quote,

808
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:09,559
this wasn't an easy call, but we truly believe it's

809
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:12,639
the right one. Our goal has always been to create

810
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,119
something meaningful for this community, and we want to give

811
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:18,639
it the time and care it deserves. So that's from

812
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:24,039
the Instagram post announcing the tourist cancelation. Country Roads was

813
00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:27,199
due to kick off on July eighteen, yesterday, at the

814
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,320
Groves of Michigan campground, but its cancelation was announced just

815
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,039
four days prior. Wow, just four days before the festival

816
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:40,440
they announced it was canceled. According to festival organizer Darcy Keys,

817
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,599
their team was simply not prepared to pull off a

818
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,440
festival in such a short amount of time, especially when

819
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:51,519
many potential attendees don't order tickets until the last minute.

820
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,760
By the way, so I've been involved in festivals. Festivals

821
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,639
take I mean a large scale festival with national artists

822
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:04,280
and the whole thing like what it sounds like they

823
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,960
were doing that can take like a year, a solid

824
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:14,199
year of planning. It really can doesn't have to. I mean,

825
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,639
it might only take six months, but it sounds like

826
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,559
they tried to do something quick here that they just

827
00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:19,039
couldn't do.

828
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 11: So.

829
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:23,039
Speaker 8: Keyes also said, quote, I don't think that we ever

830
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:26,239
got to that critical minimum ticket sales level. We probably

831
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,280
only had about three and a half months, and I

832
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,480
think in hindsight, it probably wasn't sufficient time to be

833
00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:34,159
able to promote the festival. Unquote, yeah, three and a

834
00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:36,719
half months is not enough time for a major festival,

835
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,880
but she isn't ready to completely throw on the towel.

836
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:43,840
Keys said that trying to put on the festival in

837
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,599
such a short time this year was a learning experience

838
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,679
and she looks forward to bringing the vision to life

839
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,679
in twenty twenty six. Naturally, fans who were planning to

840
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,159
attend have shared their disappointment on social media, but singer

841
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,400
Mikaela Prue, who was due to perform at the festival,

842
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:03,679
noted how such cancelations impact artists, especially lesser known ones,

843
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,679
and that relates to what we were talking about with

844
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,000
Jane's addiction. By the way, how you know, when things

845
00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:11,559
get canceled, whether it's a tour or whether it's a festival,

846
00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:15,119
it affects a lot of people, especially lesser known artists

847
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,360
like MICHAELA.

848
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 10: Prue, who many people were lined up to open.

849
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,039
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, but also, you know, it affects everything, and

850
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:25,199
it has a ripple effect. And if you're not if

851
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,920
you're not super famous and rich, you know, you can

852
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,320
really take a hit financially. It can really screw things

853
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,280
up for you. MICHAELA Prue also said, quote, festivals are

854
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,280
obviously a major way that growing artists like me get

855
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,519
their name out there. It's also one of the main

856
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:44,519
ways that myself and my band generate income. Unquote. It's

857
00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:46,920
a matter of hard times for up and coming musicians

858
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:51,639
compounded by hard times for potential attendees, an economic struggle.

859
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:55,039
As economic struggles make it more difficult for fans to

860
00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:58,440
justify buying tickets to these events, more live music festivals

861
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,960
will undoubtedly see the acts, leaving artists who depend on

862
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:07,440
that income holding the bag. So there you go. So

863
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:12,400
another another festival, u down the tubes and more lawsuits

864
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,559
and more lawsuits. Yes, yes, yes, well so I think

865
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:21,159
we will. Uh, let's Uh, let's play something. If you

866
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:24,000
are listening live. We've got the stiff Tones coming up

867
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:27,519
in the third hour. Uh, but uh, I think we

868
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:29,719
should play I think we should play city Lights again.

869
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,119
We played it in the first hour. I think we

870
00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:33,840
should play it again. City Lights into a single from

871
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,480
our friends Flair from all the way in the UK.

872
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:39,119
I love this song so much. And uh, and then

873
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:41,159
we'll show some love to our amazing sponsors. And then

874
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:43,599
when we come back with our number three, we will

875
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:45,599
have the Stiff Tones here with us in studio. And

876
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:48,320
I'm dying to get a I started to make a

877
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,960
pun without even realizing I was doing it. I started

878
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,480
to say, I'm dying to get a look at that hearse. God,

879
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,159
but I don't want I didn't even mean to do it,

880
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,480
but I realized as soon as I started the sentence.

881
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:03,079
I'm like, I'm dying to actually, but I am. I'm

882
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:06,159
dying to get a look at that hearse. The stiff

883
00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:08,800
Tones are here in a hearse. All right, this is

884
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,119
city Lights Blair.

885
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,079
Speaker 1: But you do love me.

886
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 6: Like I need you to know not.

887
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 14: Don't take your macau how t money is a feeling

888
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:14,400
like a.

889
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 7: Saf You ever need.

890
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,119
Speaker 14: Your other it's time staying with your Waiste came.

891
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:29,639
Speaker 6: Say my house, and I came said something I can

892
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,119
see you say to me known to drink.

893
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 8: Can't be same.

894
00:46:54,519 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 13: To try to quick you the jar ups no man

895
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,679
real to team are twenty from.

896
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:11,559
Speaker 14: House, mading lot to take can make you something jealousy

897
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:16,239
and use a pret like I'm as well for taking

898
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,760
out you all the time straining with you where you go.

899
00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:26,119
Just have to see that he was proud of my

900
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,840
house and gamble shout somebody can see it and saying

901
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,119
they uther change You can't have speak same.

902
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 7: I just have to see that the trying in my house.

903
00:47:41,559 --> 00:47:43,159
Speaker 6: Some gable shout.

904
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,119
Speaker 15: Somebody to see it, says a rather change in the

905
00:47:47,239 --> 00:49:36,039
teaching can be the same. Man time.

906
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:54,519
Speaker 13: The baby you're only high cas an sis tell fast

907
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:59,079
time sad.

908
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 7: Can say.

909
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:12,599
Speaker 6: Jess have to say that something somebody say.

910
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:18,679
Speaker 7: Some dreams, so say.

911
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: The same, say.

912
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:31,559
Speaker 6: God say.

913
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 7: All this slide.

914
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: Seems like a song.

915
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 16: Sometimes it's loud, Caddy, what's going with also can't be skinny?

916
00:50:49,760 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 17: What he say sound the inside, so it's like a joke.

917
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,639
We never men don't beat no strange.

918
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,639
Speaker 1: I singing my en and.

919
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 7: Sing me high up.

920
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: High asking men when you sign.

921
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:24,039
Speaker 16: Sig wound B sing you sound where rock all it's

922
00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:26,079
light y'all song.

923
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 7: As me high rock all that high stoun B.

924
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 6: Sing your sound and round.

925
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: It's like y'all song as me I to growl at.

926
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:41,679
Speaker 16: Beside you know round to sing loud B saying inside.

927
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:57,519
Speaker 1: Shoe shine, So do you get it?

928
00:51:58,679 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 18: Holly love me?

929
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,039
Speaker 1: It looks like a magic.

930
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 7: Out of the high you bud.

931
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: Rabbit feel in the sky. He's just so majestic.

932
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,119
Speaker 4: Pas a beery.

933
00:52:12,159 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 7: Sound eas side.

934
00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 16: Sun found pc you sounding round, It's like your song

935
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,360
as me the crowned foul P sing.

936
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: You sounding loud.

937
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 16: It's like your song as the eye on the grown.

938
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: Every tide around the same.

939
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 6: Loud P say your side sound side.

940
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 17: Found, piecing your sound and round.

941
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 16: It's like your song gets me high off the grown and.

942
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: I found piecing.

943
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,599
Speaker 2: Your sound and you round.

944
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,559
Speaker 16: It's like your song gets me high off the grown.

945
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: Every time you around, the sing loud P saying.

946
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 6: You sound sound soun.

947
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 19: Luigi's Pizza Bar, Really.

948
00:53:56,079 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 13: Bro every one let's raise his life song tide with

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