Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season four,
Episode three of Clips and Dip. I'm Chuck Mockler, joined
by Adam Oslon and William Updike or hopefully your favorite
Clippers podcast. If not, hopefully top three because then we'd
be kind of pushing it ranking wise. We're very excited
today we got a mailbag episode, which is a good time.
Kind of a slow newsweek. Chris Paul is back, Adam,
will how are we feeling now that Chris Paul is back?
Do you feel is there an.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the same for him,
because you kind of saw his response with the extended
sort of cheering and applause. It stirred up a lot
more from me than I guess I was expecting it to,
Like we all knew it was gonna be sort of like,
you know, a monumentous thing. I mean, he really is
is a huge, a huge part of bringing legitimacy to
this franchise, and you know, like he and Blake and
Deyander in that whole era like really paved the way
for everything that's come since, which hasn't resulted in the championship,
but it has resulted in a heck of a lot
of great memories.
Speaker 1: And that's what we're and that's the number one goal.
Who made the most maths during the year? Uh, Adam,
how are you?
Speaker 3: Championships lost we made along the way. Yeah, I'm good.
I feel the same way. The nostalgia did start to
hit me watching the press conference with CP three, and
my first year doing this job was his last year
in twenty seventeen with the Clippers. So I don't know,
I like it. I'm very excited about this. I don't
know if there's any numerology or full circle moment for
me as I try to steal the stage from way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get into it.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I didn't think i'd only get one year,
and I'm not going to.
Speaker 1: There you go, that's great. I think did we start
doing lockdown Clippers the same year Adam you started doing
Clippers on?
Speaker 2: No, I think our first year was the year after.
I think it was eighteen. Yeah, you and I was
still you and I were just having long conversations that
weren't recorded at work.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, seeing it happen. They posted a great graphic today.
They had his you know, the old graphic him doing
behind the back pass and then knew Chris Paul catching it.
I thought that was really cool. Like the feeling seeing
the fans reaction was phenomenal too, like people crying. CP
three got emotional like it was good. I'm was already
very excited for the season, but now I'm like, hell yeah,
we got a little good will built up. Hopefully things
don't change. He did say it might not be his
last year. Uh, but I feel good. I feel better
about the scene the last time we recorded, which I
didn't think would be possible, and frankly terrifies me.
Speaker 3: My heart is full and it really cleansed the palette
after Happy Gilmore too.
Speaker 1: Oh, we'll get into Happy More spoilers, folks, the oilers.
If you're hanging out with us at YouTube, do accomplished
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We are getting into these mailbag questions. Oh but wait,
hold on, I have an official clips and dip shout out.
We have to give to Adam Oslin, one of our
co hosts here. You exposed the AI and the use
of the men's health article on Luca. They figured out
that when you posted like he doesn't have a vertical
on the combine stats from that year.
Speaker 3: It wasn't at the.
Speaker 1: Wasn't at the combine. You posting that led to people
like they used AI to write that. Then they had
to retract a bunch of ship kudos to you.
Speaker 3: That was they retracted it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they like apologized and were like, yeah, we have
some stuff in here.
Speaker 2: How are you not checking?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like you don't even have to write
the article anymore.
Speaker 3: Just check what it What was the verbiage on there?
Speaker 1: I don't have exactly.
Speaker 3: I don't think they see this.
Speaker 1: They did not mention you. You did not get added.
Speaker 3: Okay that that post though, did get me. The most
impressions I've ever gotten on a Twitter post were on.
Speaker 1: The front page of the NBA subreddit. The only reason
I went there was because I saw you on there.
Speaker 3: It says it's over three million.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a freaking celebrity on this, dude, I know.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Did he bring Kavi dip kudos? Good ship?
AI sucks?
Speaker 3: No, I just recently had gone through some of the
statistics posted on NBA dot com for combine stuff, just
to see because now they actually have a dunk stat
that they keep the last couple of years too. That's
aside from NBA Combine, but you know, the advanced stuff
has gotten insane. And so I was like, wait a second, Luke,
there's no way he had a forty two inch vertical.
And then I was like, was he even at the combine?
I go back and look, No, he wasn't there. He
was still in Europe, he didn't participate in it, So
where's this number coming from. It's just, yeah, I believe
Jordan has a forty eight inch vertical, which is also
a myth before I believe this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Luca's putting up a fort on
the verge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's higher than a forty two inch vertical. Now
that's fucking insane.
Speaker 3: Do you know what as was thirty two?
Speaker 2: I think he's tall though less it's you know, it's
less rude to the basket, so it doesn't really matter
as much.
Speaker 3: The Clippers did draft the guy with the highest burt ever.
Do you know who that was?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Who is it?
Speaker 3: Who I just tested.
Speaker 1: Because I feel like I know it.
Speaker 3: Who.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like I thought it was.
Speaker 3: I think he had a forty eight and look at
him now.
Speaker 1: Put this hues something must be something to it. But yeah, kudos,
that was a great call out. Okay, we have mailbag madness.
We got we got expectations, rotation, roster, and then some
fun ones. Okay, I spin back oh four. Thank you
for sending these to the Twitter. By the way, I
believe I posted this on YouTube, and I'm gonna be honest.
I forgot to grab the questions or the answer, so
send them to us on Twitter. I YouTube. Yeah I did, dude,
people the real diehards engaged with the YouTube posts. I
spinned back oh four says Clippers won fifty games last season,
kaw I missed a large portion of the season, knowing
the roster got better. Does this team even have a
chance to win sixty?
Speaker 2: Sixty feels insane. Sixty assumes Kawhi plays sixty games, and
I don't even know that I want that.
Speaker 1: That's a good point.
Speaker 3: So okase won sixty seven games last year in the West,
and they were missing Jet for a couple of months.
Otherwise they win seventy. But did Houston, the next best
team record wise, win fifty three? I think it was
somewhere around there, fifty two or fifty three. Let me check,
maybe I'm thinking of the three seed. Three seed was
the fifty two? Yeah, the three seed was fifty right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the three four five there, the six was forty nine. Jesus.
Speaker 3: So when you have that is.
Speaker 2: The optimism side too, is the Clippers weren't that far
away from the second seed?
Speaker 3: No, Well, when you have that many teams, that many
competitive teams that closely match, it drives down records are
beating each other up outside of the best team in
the league.
Speaker 1: We also need to remember that they won eight games
in a row and the season, and ten out of
their last eleven they were playing playoff We've talked about
they were playing playoff basketball the last two weeks of
the season, so tired in that game seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why they can win eighteen of every twenty
one games. That will be good.
Speaker 1: Oh shit. Yeah. And then also I think, and this
is where I think this is a good question, because
it is a better roster than the start of the season.
For sure, there's a gel period there. You know what
I mean like we're gonna see some the period. Yes,
there's gonna be tinkering tie to the max, Like, there's
gonna be some time if there's be some hiccups, and
it's fine to not win sixty. I just want to
be top four.
Speaker 2: Sixty feels waz feels too difficult. Could we win more
than fifty? I mean, I'm definitely not ruling it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I initially just wanted home court. I
am still leaning on the stat that says there's only
two teams ever that were not top three that won
NBA championships. I'm like, if they could get the three
spot in the West, then I really feel good.
Speaker 1: That's doable. That's in the cards. One. I don't think
one is happening. No, And I hope I get clipped
for saying this, because that means that they have the
best regular season maybe of all the time. You quit
the podcast, due, I will quit the podcast if the
Clippers get the one seed, but it will start when
the next our season starts with Yeah, of course the
next draft. Thank you.
Speaker 3: That's the best podcast material.
Speaker 2: Quitting Yeah, honestly, I don't love you, so you're gone,
you know.
Speaker 1: I am interested to see And I know this isn't
a betting podcast. I'm only going to bring this up
to one thing. Last year, Vegas disrespected the Clippers thirty
seven wins. Interested to see what it's going to be
this year, That's all we got to say about it.
I know we don't we don't do betting stuff, but.
Speaker 2: I just don't know why you would project less than
than a winning season like forty. If the Vegas line
was at forty two, I'd be like, Okay, that's I mean,
that's a tough one to go on, you know, taking
the money on.
Speaker 3: Are there not any over unders out yet?
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are?
Speaker 2: But we wait too early for Chucks Pott.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm waiting until game eighty eighty one.
I'm putting.
Speaker 3: Way too late for degenerous. Though they wanted this like
a month ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true.
Speaker 3: They wanted this in the first round series. Okay, cool,
But what are the Clippers going to be look at
next yearning?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Real one's been after the draft on the season.
Speaker 1: When this season? Of course?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay. Gabe Moreau, who asked a lot of questions, but
I picked this one. Thoughts on using done differently this year,
especially in the playoffs, with the addition of Lopez. How
much do you think we will see him as a
point guard like he was in Utah often in the
five out look? Do you see him in a short
role Bruce Brown like role now that you have spacing
its center.
Speaker 3: Is a slasher and better shooter. I don't think he.
I would love that if his offense was better. He's
just not as cape. Bruce Brown takes guys off the
tribble like he can read for himself pretty easily.
Speaker 1: And I guess who's handling the ball of Chris Dunn
is the role man like he's running a pick what
inverted pick and rolls or like Brook Lopez.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with Brooke Lopez as the passer inverted pick and rolls, it.
Speaker 1: Feels like it helps Brook Lopez but doesn't help Chris
Dune because they're not going to follow to the perimeter,
Like if a big is on Chris Dun, I'm not
going to try and like close out really fast on
Chrystal Well.
Speaker 3: It's not like he's known for just punishing smaller players
on him and always taking advantage of matchups like that.
Speaker 1: So Roose Brown is the size too, he's a bowling
ball like, respectfully, like, I don't see it happening. I
dug into the stats too, because I was curious because
this gabe said, do you think we'll see him as
a point guard like he was in Utah off on
a five out look? And I was like, I didn't
know this gabe guy watched this much jazz basketball. But
I looked up the primary ball handler stats for him
in the pick and roll. He's actually pretty good. When
he was on Utah twenty two to twenty three, four
possessions per game, one point one points per possession, pretty solid.
Twenty three twenty four, it seemed like they realized he
was too good at it, and they ran it one
time per game and he had zero point sixty nine
points per possession. But then I looked at the role
man stats because question asked, do you see him in
a short role? He never did that?
Speaker 2: But who would like who would he have right within
in any of those fits?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, Like, I just don't. I don't
think they're adding a new wrinkle to Chris Dunn's game.
Speaker 3: I think what can help him more than anything is
just going up against second units more often. That's what's
going to have him flourishing more just showing that he
was somebody that could start and defensively he can guard anybody.
But maybe there is more he's going to show to
his game on the offensive end because he's going to
be guarded most likely by worst players in the second unit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that if he's like an initiator on
the offense. Look, I mean he clearly I think has
some liabilities and limitations as a primary ball handler. And
I think that we even saw improvement in season last
year better than it was. This could be okay, Yeah, yeah,
but I think that.
Speaker 3: He was going to be better coming into the season
based off the Utah stuff too.
Speaker 2: I did too. I did too. But I thought that
we did see an improvement in season from where it
started out because I was very low on him as
a primary ball handler, Like when we first started getting
looks at it, I was like, oh, I guess I
had always thought he was a lot better of a
facilitator and an initiator just because of how long people
have wanted him on this team. Look, I don't think
for where a guy like Chris Done is at in
his career that you need to reinvent the wheel man.
He just needs to improve the things that that we
already need him to do, Like he really just needs
to knock down open threes. And I like Adam's point
of like, you know, if he can punish second units
a little bit like that, you know that all the better,
that's great. But in terms of like meeting full basketball minutes,
he just needs to work on the things that we
already haven't doing it. I don't think. I don't see
Chris Dunn right now as a player who like you know,
falls out of the rotation in the playoffs because of
the way that we're using him. I feel like it's
it's more of a self limitation.
Speaker 1: He's a stopper, He's one of the best perimeter defenders.
Speaker 2: Just absolutely, I'd like, you know, offensively, he's gonna be
used the same way. He just needs to improve it
the He just needs to improve with the same things.
Like I don't know, what's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's thirty one thirty two now, I don't
know how much he's improving. He's like a career thirty
two percent three point shooter. What did you shoot last year?
A little bit above that? Maybe you know, thirty five percent.
If he could get there, that would be big. But
I will say when he had most of his limitations,
or when he really showed that his playmaking was lacking
at times, it was in high leverage situations where teams
are giving maximum effort late in games and he's going
up against once, if he's going up against the second
unit in late first quarter, early second quarter type of stuff,
lower leverage stakes. I think he's much more capable of
running stuff like so I don't think it's crazy and.
Speaker 1: We have better reserves, right, Like he's gonna run the
pick and roll with like Brook low Pit like with
a very good guy adding the pick and roll.
Speaker 3: He was five as a roller last year in points
per possession. He was great.
Speaker 1: It's and like the spacing Lopez.
Speaker 3: Is like PPP triple P.
Speaker 1: Part of this question is legit, though, because I don't
think he's gonna be Bruce Brown in the short roll
out there's a spacing center, but it makes his life
easier on offense now that there's a spacing center out there.
Speaker 2: Overall, Yes, yeah, and I agree with that, and I
like this question, and he raises some great points. I
just think it's more of like an enhancement of the
player that he already is, versus like sort of a
reinvention of the wheel, because I don't see there are
guys on this Clippers team and throughout Tyler's tenor that
I feel like have maybe been used in their position
or maybe not to their full extent. To me, Chris
don does not really want those guys.
Speaker 3: In the second unit. Let's say, if he's playing next
to Bradley Beal or next to CP three in the backcourt,
I bet he will next to Bogee.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's think of all three of those players
and where they're at defensively. I hope Chris down is
playing against next to those Why sure?
Speaker 3: No, I just he may be able to spread his
wings a little bit more on the offensive end this
season coming off the bench.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's also I like that point. I think that
him not facing like prime defenses and like super locked
in teams is going to be great.
Speaker 1: And that's what's nice too, is that it's helping it
so we don't have those nights theoretically where it's like, Okay,
why are Kawhi and James playing thirty six tonight against
this team that we should probably, you know what I mean, Like,
maybe the bench didn't do their job or something last year.
Now we have more insurance that the bench can just
take care of things and we don't have to, you know,
not waste. But you know what I'm saying, expel those
extra those minutes out up. Theoretically, yes, theoretical, theoretically, it's
our here.
Speaker 3: I remember talking to law about, you know why that
team was so good defensively in twenty one twenty two
while only having Paul George for thirty games they were
missing Kawhi all year long. It was simply that they
had Isaiah Hartenstein who was putting out a great effort
defensively and holding it down and being very solid and
maybe the best backup center in the league at that time.
And the Clippers also now have a starting caliber center
as their backup. That continuity of having that defensive anchor,
that last line of defense and having someone who has
been great at it historically, I just I think that's
going to hold things together on the defensive ends so
much more.
Speaker 1: I like that you brought up Kristen's age too. He's
thirty one I think this year, and then he has
he's making like five mil this year, and then five
and a half next year, and then he's a UFA
when he's thirty two or thirty three, So he is
somewhat playing for He could make more than five MILLI
year if he has these next two years, obviously, but
I think that maybe I'm putting that in the kind
of like it's not a contract year, but he could
really help himself by having just like will what you said,
just getting better at the things that he clearly needs
to get better at.
Speaker 3: I think he's making more than Bruce Brown this year,
by the way, paralleling those guys and Bruce Brown sign
on the veterers minimum somehow to go back to dude one.
Speaker 1: Year three mil shit, I would have liked that that.
Speaker 3: Obviously he wanted to get back there badly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, young man asking that is their user name. Deep
protestings don't generally work out due to rhythm issues. We
know that, but given the skill level of our super
old Vets, could we see a ten to eleven man rotation,
our pace and rim protection produce slow, low scoring games
to keep our whole roster fresh for the postseason.
Speaker 3: So remember at the beginning of last season, when the
Golden State Warriors were going eleven twelve deep and it
was working at first, and people thought they were going
to revolutionize the game, and then it did kind of
come back to hantum with not enough guys staying in
rhythm or guys complaining about minutes or coaminga I think
pods there was an issue there, and then injuries come
and eventually, like you get back down to an eight
nine man rotation. Anyways, I think he's going with a
nine man rotation if they're fully healthy. Like, first of all,
they're probably only going to have all eleven of the
Pacific Oceans eleven as law Murray has dubbed them together
for maybe twenty to twenty five games at most, And
during those twenty twenty five games, I would imagine these
still goes with a nine man rotation. And now that
could be what you could say is over the course
of a week, could you see eleven different guys playing
while they are fully healthy. It's just one night CP
three's playing another night he's not, even though he's healthy.
That's something I think that that's very plausible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was Boston's rotation last year? Because I feel like.
Speaker 1: They run well, they were deep as Bill Simmons pointed
out Boston may have actually revolutionized how to build a roster,
which is you want to have fifteen guys who are
all very good.
Speaker 2: You want to have the most good guys on your roster.
Speaker 1: That's how you get that fifteen man rotation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I agree to Adam's point is
that like it's best, you know, like it it's a
rarefied scenario that it's going to be like everyone available
eleven deep. And I just don't see.
Speaker 1: Ties that run on the left.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I've just never like, I've just
seen no indication that that would be Tyler's rotation for
like a full season, especially if it was coming at
the expense of guys being in rhythm.
Speaker 1: And like Chris Paul's talked about, Like what did Lawrence
Frank say with the statement of Chris Paul coming like
in the reserve role or whatever that quote, Well, like
we're not. It seems as a let me timestamp this
as of six twenty eight PM on July twenty ninth,
that Chris Paul understands the role. The team has laid
it out pretty clearly what it's going to be when
everyone's healthy, Like, yeah, Tyler, And how often does this
fan base claimer that Tye plays one guy? You know
what I mean, Like, there's always one guy out. The
issue with a deep roster on papers, there's always one
guy out right.
Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, how many examples are there of a team
being so deep and it becoming this huge problem eventually?
Speaker 1: Would love that problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of those good problems to have, because
it's just unrealistic to have it from more than twenty
and twenty five games in the season, everybody available to go,
especially on a team that's old.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that weekly thing though, it'll be interesting,
like we should look like at the weekly total Vineah, guys,
when everyone's healthy, that's a good I bet you.
Speaker 3: Have a week where you play three or four games,
or let's say it's they no longer do four and seven,
but they are four of five and seven, but they'll
do like a six and nine. Yeah, I think over
those six games, if everybody's healthy and we're talking back
to backs here, Yeah, you're going to see everybody play.
That's a part of the eleven man deep rotation, just
not every night every game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a good question, though it is a
large rotation. Well, what's this next question? We got?
Speaker 2: This next question we got let me pull it up there.
This is Califuja who wants to know what the addition
of CP three, how slow is our pace going to be?
And with the addition of CP three and Collins, will
that second unit with DJJ be lob City two point zero? Well,
it's your thoughts.
Speaker 3: Somebody said to me yesterday they got to do some
type of tribute night for lob City, and I'm like, oh,
there's going to be tributes when dj and John Collins
are throwing it down off of lobs from CP three.
I do think there's gonna be some lob City two
point zero going on here. As it pertains to pace,
I never worry that much about pace because it's doesn't
always correlate with Okay, so the ten best teams play
at the ten best, ten fastest paces, That's just not
what it is in the NBA. It's a style of
play doesn't tell you if you're playing faster that necessarily
means you're one of the better teams in the NBA
or not.
Speaker 1: Well, fast means good. Is my counterpoint.
Speaker 3: You can lose.
Speaker 1: Actually, I was gonna say, look up the points, look
up the possessions for game, because I bet the Raptors
were pretty close up there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like I'll bring I'll bring up pace from last season
and see how many of these teams. Okay, Memphis had
the number one pace in the regular season, Chicago was second,
Atlanta was third, the Wizards were fourth. Did I make
my point? Oklahoma City is fifth, Utah is sixth, Indiana
was seventh. So the two finals teams did make it
into the top ten. Denver eighth, Toronto ninth, at Cleveland tenth.
So it is a mixed bag at best, with some
of the worst teams in the NBA playing fast.
Speaker 1: And this team has never been designed to play fast.
Paul George and Kawhi with that acquisition or not, Let's
make this a really fast team, right, like it's.
Speaker 2: The wasn't the offense their slowest year?
Speaker 1: You're right?
Speaker 2: Actually, like in the two and three era.
Speaker 1: And at you know this is I'm sure we'll say
this again, but the pace slows down the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oklahoma City was getting like a possession less per game.
Indiana looks like in the playoffs they were getting about
three less possessions per game like style of play, especially
in the playoffs comes to a screeching halt with all
these teams trying to play fast because possessions are too
damn valuable.
Speaker 2: Will it look bad though, sometimes when the fast team
is playing this old ass Clippers team transition like to
that point. Absolutely, absolutely, it's gonna be infuriating.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're gonna say, run, Chris, run faster. There will
I also the second part of this, so there's gonna
be a whole lot of ducks that you are right
about that California. There will be a whole bunch of ducks,
and it's gonna rule.
Speaker 3: There's also a difference between pace of play and fast
breakpoints per game like. Those two things aren't always correlated.
The Clippers were I think they were almost bottom five
in pace, but they were fifteenth in fast break points.
They were tied with the team. They're basically like a
fraction of a point away from being top ten in
fast break points last season because they'd still have selective
hit ahead passes that they emphasized going back to last
training camp, so you can still see explosive dunks. You
still saw plenty of that from DJ last season and
the Clippers picking and choosing when they get out in transition,
and now.
Speaker 1: We got John Collins. We had one guy who was
good in transition last year, which was Derek Jones, and
now we have two. Maybe let'll make Brook Lopez run
a bunch. That would be funny. They're like, Brook, if
anyone else gets the board, you need to run a
damn fly route.
Speaker 3: To the beat your man down the floor and see
up against a small man and we'll get it to you.
Speaker 1: Fan Gundy just yelling at Brook Lopez, the beats guy
on the floor, t Felt three, asking would cpe be
in the closing lineup?
Speaker 3: I'm if he has a really good game or really
good stint early on. Maybe yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1: Thinking probably not on the whole probably, Yeah, I could see.
Speaker 2: It planned regular scenario.
Speaker 1: No, probably not right respectfully to Chris Paul.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if Chris Paul looks as good as he
did last season, and he was really good, you look
at the advanced stats and I was running through two
man lineups and who was the best next to Wemby
and it was clearly him and his assistant turnover ratio
it was like seven and a half assist to a
turnover and a half per game. That is valuable. That's
valuable late in games where the Clippers had a real
turnover problem in fourth quarters and during clutch time last season.
I don't think it'd be crazy if he's playing well
to start the season like he did last year that
coach lou leans on him at times. I don't. I
don't think it's out of uh Ramo possibility.
Speaker 2: It just depends on the rotation around. Yeah, just depends
on the rotation around, because I'm not against it in theory.
But if you have, you know, any combination of Harden,
Beal and don out there at the same time like that,
I don't know, that just kind of changes everything.
Speaker 3: I bet you he starts fourth quarters.
Speaker 1: Harden, Beale, done, Lopez Zoo who says noe of that.
I like the starting fourth quarters idea.
Speaker 3: I could see that him and Brook Lopez will be
starting fourth quarters together. Yeah, Zoo plays the entire third,
Kawhi comes out, you know, with maybe the five minute
mark of the third, James Harden comes out around the
three minute mark, and CP three is maybe playing the
end of the third into the star of the fourth
or something like that. But that's still depending on the night,
if he's already playing earlier in the game or not,
if he's if he's available in the rotation that night.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, because it's gonna be up and down some nights.
What did they say? Some Knights is gonna play a
lot of minutes sometimes.
Speaker 3: So otherwise that's Bradley Beal's like, if he's having a
great game, he's he's gonna play heavy minutes.
Speaker 1: It is a trip. Not a single question about Bradley
Beals submitted. I just thought it was funny. Pretty big addition,
guy who's going to be starting.
Speaker 3: CP three said, sound like they're close. They were training
in augusta together, like he calls him brad They're tight man.
Speaker 1: Be rad all right, last question before the break, Ton
Solo says, shout out bon Solo. They send him questions
a lot. I'm excited to see this team as is
get to work. But there seems to be concern amongst
clipperd Twitter with Bogie's minutes and particular is there a
player archetype or skill that you could see Bogie being
flipped for that is complementary and not just another redundancy.
I think time will tell with this one. We don't
know what teams are gonna look like before the deadline.
I see the concern, right, but.
Speaker 3: It's been brought up a lot. But a sixteen million
dollars firing contract basically because there's a team option for
next year is valuable. Why not let things play out,
figure out what you need, and then you have a
trade asset there in Bogie. Possibly, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: There were some highs with the Bogie experience that I
would say I'd be kind of willing to let it
ride and just see what it is there fit wise,
see what you have. And also, like I mean we've
talked about before, like we can't assume full of health
all the time with this team and it's not at
the same level obviously as an empower, but like, how
many seasons in the road did people bring up, Oh,
Norma is expendable, Norma is expendable, we should trade norm
And then how much did we need to lean on
him every damn season? Like it's just I'm not saying again,
I'm not saying that Boge is at that level, but
there there were some highs. I do see some opportunities
for Fit and I do see a team that you know,
can struggle offensively. I think he could could get things
going on the right night. So I'm I'm saying ride
it at least to the trade deadline and then see
if there's anything out there that's worth your while.
Speaker 1: Of course, because you got I mean, if you have
a three man bench lineup that includes Chris, Paul, Bogey
and again back to Brook Lopez, who's gonna be a
pretty big part of this bench. Like there's space out there,
like and like we talked about, Bogey doesn't have to
do the stuff that he's not supposed to do. We
don't have to be like Boge's pretty good at actually
putting the ball on the floor.
Speaker 2: Hayes got Zoo his first triple double. Retire the jersey
is what I'm saying, put the jersey in the rafters.
Speaker 1: Honestly, really could not agree more with that.
Speaker 2: Jew's normal size, his kind of tiny, but in next.
Speaker 3: But they're gonna need his shooting too, because if DJ
and Dunn are both coming off the bench, which were
kind of anticipating at this point, and they're out there
like you need another shooter. It's not enough to go, oh,
you know. John Collins on lower volume shot from three
and forty games last season. He can help spread the floor.
Like you need somebody that can really shoot the ball,
and he did after the first couple of weeks and
then didn't in the playoff series unfortunately against Denver.
Speaker 1: Bogie and Derek Jones will be out there, another guy
who can shoot sometimes from outside but.
Speaker 3: Not Yeah, reliable if he had done play together much
while defensively you're going to be great. You have to
have another like Bogey, Bogie, Beal, one of those two
guys gonna be out there.
Speaker 1: The balloons agree, The balloon's agree with everything we're saying.
All right, that about wraps up for the first segment.
We're going to answer some fun questions in the second segment,
and we are going to talk dips. I have a
very interesting dip chip experience this week that I'm excited
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questions and of course diptok.
Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clips and Dip your favorite we hope
Clippers podcast. Well, Look, we talked about some real questions,
some real stuff. It's time to get into some fun stuff,
some interesting questions via our mail bag, which you can
send to us over at Twitter. That's at clippers pod.
You can also maybe send them on YouTube. That's you
can sack clippers podcast. They may or may not be received.
Speaker 1: Everybody.
Speaker 2: You know the show's clips and dip. You know it's
the off season. You know we gotta talk dips. But
let's get in some more questions. Uh sou Cart wanted
to know who is the better play by the by
the way, between this version of Zoo and Prime DJ.
Speaker 1: Between this version of Zoo and Prime J, where did
Adam go?
Speaker 2: Unclear?
Speaker 1: Is he in the crosshairs of the cellular mob again?
Speaker 2: Unclear?
Speaker 1: He might pop back up in his car. He's back.
Speaker 3: Sorry, guys, you're fine.
Speaker 1: Did you hear the question?
Speaker 3: I got the question? I mean I got the rundown open.
I mean, okay, hey, new thing, Hey, new thing, new season,
new stuff, like the first time for everybody. He called
me the rundown. It's not about that Dwayne Johnson movie.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good question. I also like that
this question kind of pertains that this is not the
prime version of Zoo yet.
Speaker 3: Uh. I'm trying to think so, DJ wasn't All Star.
He made thirteen third team All Defensive Team.
Speaker 1: Let me look, yeah, I thought he'd Is.
Speaker 3: There only a first and a second and.
Speaker 2: The rebound leader.
Speaker 3: Rebound leader team All Defense.
Speaker 1: I'm just kicking.
Speaker 3: There might only be two. Zoo just made second team, right.
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. Uh. All Star in twenty seventeen,
All NBA First Team in twenty sixteen, two time All
NBA Third Team, Okay, and twenty and twenty fifteen twenty.
I guess we're saying let's call his prime twenty seventeen,
because that's where most of these accolades come from. I
guess two time defensive All Defensive First Team in fifteen sixteen,
two time rebounding leader. Those those two time All Defensive
first teams are carrying a lot of weight in this
particular argument.
Speaker 2: And he was a rebound leader at least once, wasn't
he times? Two times? That's what I thought.
Speaker 3: I wonder what's the highest he's finished and Defensive Player
of the Year. Zoo just finished sixth. He's probably finished
higher with those first teams.
Speaker 1: Zoo's also an infinitely better passer of the ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah right right, just Zoo creating his own shot on
the block, infinitely better. Uh, DJ infinitely better. Is just
a straight lob threat runner. He's one of the best ever.
Oh yeah, the defenders, I don't I think of each
as zubots. I don't know protecting the rim. I know
DJ has the athleticism, of course, was he better though
a weak side guy and coming over and having those
big blocks than just playing straight up? Like, was there
anybody like Jokic that DJ was getting the best of
at times?
Speaker 2: I think that's because, like you know, by all metrics,
with the way the game has sort of moved, you
would think where Zoo started his career with the Clippers,
he would be a dinosaur like he would be phased out,
sort of out of a starting rotation night now. And
I do think his game has evault as such that
he's able to stand on the floor. But again, it's
Apple's oranges when you're comparing eras. Even though it's not
that long ago, it's less than a decade ago.
Speaker 1: Really, and DeAndre finished third in DPOI voting was his best.
Speaker 3: I think he would be. See, we didn't get that
second series against Golden State in twenty fifteen, because how
much was DJ taking off the floor in the first
round in twenty fourteen against Golden State, But that was
kind of that was still Mark Jackson as their head coach.
Twenty fifteen would have been a good test for can
this guy play against a team like this and stay
out there on the floor, because I think I would
lean towards trusting Zoom Moore in that situation.
Speaker 1: It's close to Atassa.
Speaker 2: It is close to Atassa.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you who has the higher potential though, that's Zubos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, work thus far, though, regardless of eras, I might
lean DJ, but I don't know. Again, I don't know
that we've seen Zeo's peak.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you just take DJ up until he's twenty eight,
how much of that stuff is on there? Like, yeah,
that's true, but he did kind of. Yeah, it took
him a little bit of time, but then he Yeah,
I like him both.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for the question, great question.
Speaker 1: How about this both, sal what about that Radondo Mike
asking it has not been a good week for uh
ex Clippers, by the way, Well, Dante Jones Ever recorder
from Ever recover from the viral video of him last week.
If you missed it.
Speaker 2: If you want to break it down, you want to
recruiter this.
Speaker 3: One didn't see it.
Speaker 1: Dante Jones was caught digging in his butt at a
hotel waiting for an elevator, smelling it and then putting
it on the wall. Everything I said is accurate right there.
I don't think, yeah, the video, I don't. I don't
think he needs what is he going to recover from?
He wasn't you have to recover from something. If he
got knocked down from something.
Speaker 2: Is any publicity good publicity?
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm argued, But you know what I mean,
Like he didn't like he wasn't on something, and it
was like, oh, now you wiped your shit all over
the wall. Now you're off that. I'll tell you what he.
Speaker 2: Wasn't, perhaps like on a list for being on an islander.
Speaker 1: Of course, But I don't think this affects his life
in any way. And I would love to be rich
enough for this doesn't. This kind of thing doesn't affect
my life in any way. It's rough.
Speaker 2: Well, I think right now, if if like.
Speaker 1: I think people forgot about it because these questions are
from like two days ago, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if like KTLA was like local museum and
employee diggs in, but why it's not. I think you'd
be I think you'd be in the clear. Man. I
think now if they said niche Clippers podcasting, then you
might have some problem.
Speaker 1: If if I were to do something like that at
the museum, I should be fired if k t l A. Also,
first of all, screw whichever one of my hypothetical coworkers
dives me out to k t l A for doing that.
Speaker 3: Adam your take, We've all done some regrettable things and
always kind of on camera.
Speaker 1: Sure, I don't think this he's gonna recover. He'll be fine.
He's doing a lot better than another former Clipper, which
we're not gonna type on on this show because that
just generally seems like a sad situation.
Speaker 2: Oh you mean Marcus Morrison ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are we doing here?
Speaker 3: There's there's like one of the times I've been buying
my tongue last two minutes and I'm just going to continue.
Speaker 1: To There's just one there's like about the Morris situation
or about Dante Jones. You're saying he's just fine, it's
no big deal.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just saying you should.
Speaker 1: The casino is always gonna get anyway. X Mango project,
will this one's for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is it our here?
Speaker 3: Did I ask that question? Who asked that? Oh?
Speaker 1: Got could be?
Speaker 2: Are here for what? I'm not gonna say.
Speaker 1: You got a lot more? There's a lot more secrets.
Speaker 3: Sounds like are you for surprises? I guess.
Speaker 2: It's our year for something. I'm not gonna say. What.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that, And then the final question from
Hard Boiled Bees, which translates into our I think the
most liked segment of the show. Uh, if the clippers
were at dip, and we're gonna say the twenty five,
twenty six clippers were at dip, what would they be
and why? It's a good question. No one's ever asked this.
I don't think we've gotten cutest clipper for will.
Speaker 3: Be Like older people enjoy a bean dip.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like some sort of like shmeer
or locks dip. That was that a picnic? And it's
kind of been in the sun for a little while, you.
Speaker 1: Know that it's it's good.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm pretty liberal about those things. Also pop
that baby in the freezer for a couple of minutes. Well,
chip sounds sounds good to me.
Speaker 1: Adam having uh bean dip demographics in his head. I
like old people liking be dip. It was funny. I
was gonna say French onion dip too old reliable. Yeah,
it's old reliable, you know what I mean. It gets
the job done.
Speaker 2: Prune salsa what prune alsa?
Speaker 1: Is that a thing?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 2: Now, Stuart.
Speaker 3: If you have a.
Speaker 1: Good prune salsa recipe, I will make one, Uh dude, honestly,
you might need prine saucea next week.
Speaker 3: I think it's spinach ar show dip man one. That's
strong spinach dip. You know.
Speaker 1: I like that that old Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, Popeye cracked a few cans of spinach open.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: Steak tartar, which I'm continuing, is a dip.
Speaker 1: That's for the dude. Say it for the Patreon bro,
that's for the dip.
Speaker 2: An old a steak tartar in a place like the Smokehouse.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, good cheese bread, but not the best.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good cheese bread. Cheese bread.
Speaker 3: The boat. You guys know about the boat, and.
Speaker 1: I know about chowder barge. Not Inbasadians. In Long Beach,
they filmed quite a few scenes of the newest I
know what you did less over.
Speaker 3: There, Clearman's Galley. That's that's the place get the cheese bread.
Speaker 1: And I have been there. I wish the inside wasn't
so hellish it was.
Speaker 3: You gotta fight for that cheese bread.
Speaker 2: It's more about the cheese bread than than the interior decord.
Speaker 1: It to go, getting cheese ready to go from a
place again, another level of wealth. I'd love to be on. Okay,
dip talk, Okay, can you talking about yourself?
Speaker 2: One second? I just gotta go grand Mine.
Speaker 1: Sure we're gonna interrogate Adam on it if he actually
brought a real dip, Adam, the fans have been concerned,
did you what kind of dip did you bring today?
To share with us? But you do push the boundaries,
which we appreciate.
Speaker 3: There. I'm asking the real questions here what constitutes a dip?
And so I've gone with Greek yogurt and I think
I was mostly a no. And I went with honey,
and I think honey was a little bit closer. If
you dip it with a cheerio necklace that you're wearing
that you made. That's your summer school arts and crafts class.
So today I'm going back to the basics. Is air
a dip? No? I got the Stitos medium caeso dip.
Can't go wrong with it. I don't know if they
make it. I haven't seen the hot Do they even
make one? I don't think they sell the medium, but
I don't see it.
Speaker 1: They don't sell the hot version in Burbank. They're like,
this isn't gonna sell here.
Speaker 3: Is there a mild medium and a hot or just medium?
I don't know. But earlier I was just using, uh,
you know what a Sam's Club or Costco. You can
get these little chicken bite things like pre made chicken breasts.
It's like I was just dipping that in it earlier.
It is good. P Yeah, I was. I was on
my wheel trip China, little carbon.
Speaker 1: Okay, Adam brought a dip? He did, Oh would you
bring it to the barb He did Tostitos medium cheese dip.
Speaker 2: Where is it?
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I brought it to whatever our last
barbecue was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing, it was a hit.
Speaker 1: Will you good the presenter? You need a few minutes
to gather yourself.
Speaker 3: And make it.
Speaker 2: I got this key.
Speaker 1: Guy's got the mirror camera on today?
Speaker 2: Is it mirrored?
Speaker 1: Oh? The look backwards or I just can't read. Maybe
that ship's backwards.
Speaker 3: I prefer it mirrored.
Speaker 2: It's not. It's not weird. It's my right hand on
the right side.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 3: His name tags, correct, it says William and an Updyke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are production name tags. These are in our own.
Are you do you got.
Speaker 3: A muse's backwards?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 3: What's the right side of it? I can't tell.
Speaker 1: Which way is your toilet spinning? Are you going yeah
or nay? On the tazaki? Is this your first taste
of it? I like that.
Speaker 3: I just ran across the streets to the store.
Speaker 2: Really, I'm gonna be honest. Uh, this is slapping. I
like it. There's some big chunks of cucumber in there,
a lot of deal which is a key to tzek.
I think you might have to present this like this
is good enough looking that you could pass us off
as your own. I just put it in a different
container and maybe squeez a little lemon juice in there.
Speaker 1: You go, William up dakakas out here making his own So.
Speaker 2: You bring it to the barbecue. Oh yeah, for sure?
Speaker 1: Cool? Hell yeah, Okay. I went with this is more
of a chip heavy one because we're always talking the dips.
So the dip I went with was Haig's Delicacy, spicy hummus,
pretty good dip. I would bring this to a thing.
The chips I got for it because I was like,
why does this person have these chips? You guys know,
I'm not like a celebrity worshiper. I'm not like, oh
what did Milton Burle recently do? Oh what did Orson
Welles just put out? I have to buy it? That's
not me.
Speaker 3: But I saw that drink.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, let's not that's a crazy allegate. I'm not
a guy. Okay, yeah, that's what I'm most thought about.
Speaker 1: Uh. Lionel Messi has his own flavor of chip that
is Argentinian style steak wow, which I've.
Speaker 2: Been seeing these around. I'm anxious for this movie.
Speaker 1: Part of me thinks the chips that are flavored like
actual food are just made to start us to believe
that it's okay, we don't need to eat the steak
and we can have the chip flavored the steak liver chips.
That's for the that's for the Patreon. The chip itself
without the dip bad. The man can play soccer. The chips.
It just tastes kind of like worse sour.
Speaker 3: Cream and onion, a little bit, not steak at all.
Speaker 1: Barely steak.
Speaker 2: Didn't you have that bad burger at the hard Rock Cafe?
Speaker 1: Yes, he did so. It's grilled steak flavors with notes
of a chimmy cherry. It's okay by itself, not good.
Spicy hummus though kicks.
Speaker 3: It up a notch saves the day.
Speaker 1: Flavors work well together. The chips I would not bring
to a barbecue. I would very much bring this dip.
These chips are incredibly okay, incredibly sorry Leo, not my goat.
This knocked him off the list.
Speaker 3: Now where's the c R seven chip?
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's an air chip. The c R seven
is for sure like chips made for shredded. Yeah, that
costs thirteen thousand dollars. I think we all we went
three for three on dipsy.
Speaker 3: We haven't lost yet.
Speaker 1: Unlike Messy exactly clips and dip one, MESSI zero put
that in your pipe and smoke at messy.
Speaker 3: Shake that penalty kick.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think you'd come on the pod to defend
his chip flavor?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: With like the head of lays, He'll he'll send his bodyguard.
Just beat the ship out all or just me because
I only when said anything bad? All right, anything else
about these Clippers or these Dips before we head on him? No,
all right, we're wrapping it up.
Speaker 3: Let's eat, Let's eat.
Speaker 1: There we go, Thank you everyone for hanging out. We
might be off next week. I'm out of town full disclosure,
so there's a chance we don't do an episode. I'm
going to Argentina to get to the bottom of this
steak scenario. Will Where can people review us in any form?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so you can review this show over on
Apple podcasts or Spotify for audio platforms. You can of
course listen to it on anywhere you get your podcasts.
I just don't know if you can review it there,
so if you know, I guess, let me know. But
you can comment on this video. Any of our videos
are on YouTube dot com. That's at Clippers podcast, which
of course the best way to consume the show. But however,
you listen to watch. You know we appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We do. We've been asking a lot from the audience
this week, and I think they'll be able to deliver prune,
dip recipe, new place to review the pod. Now for
the most important part of the show, out of Osland.
One positive thing about the Clippers before we head out.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys saw, but CP three's
back and he looked pretty ageless. That wasn't there in person.
But my god, I'm motivated to eat better. I'm about
to throw out. Well I had my share, but it's
time to live better, to do better. And Chris Paul
did say and really made it a point to acknowledge
Clipper Nation and what they mean to him. But he
talked about how we deserve good things, we deserve a winner,
Like all right, I'm all in, I'm ready, I'm ready
to start now. I know we got like at least
two months till preseason but training camp, but I'm pretty
hyph for this season. Now it's real, it became real.
CP three is a Clipper, and thank god he is,
because again he was able to wash that terrible nasty
taste out of my mouth. Not from the Argentinian state
laces ships, but from happy Gilmore too. Just having him
here turn my week around.
Speaker 1: There we go, we don't want to get Adam. Sorry
on halfy Gilmore too, and we'll be here for another
two and a half hours. Thank you for hanging out.
We will maybe see you next week, but if not,
we'll absolutely see you sim and as always, let's go clips.