Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news.
Speaker 2: Radio Bank of Dan Watkins. As we head into the
Speaker 2: nine o'clock hour, I want to open up a topic
Speaker 2: that we haven't talked about, and it's it's kind of
Speaker 2: a tough topic because it involves the the death of
Speaker 2: a five year old little boy named Lenz Joseph, a
Speaker 2: student at what's called the Up Academy in Dorchester. Now,
Speaker 2: I've researched as much as I can on this story,
Speaker 2: and as late as today's well yesterday, in today's paper,
Speaker 2: there's a headline in the Globe that says, right now
Speaker 2: there's no accountability some residents concerned about transparency improve of
Speaker 2: deadly Boston school bus crash. So the first question I
Speaker 2: have is, how does something like this happen? A little
Speaker 2: boy five years old is on a bus, on a
Speaker 2: school bus, a Boston school bus. And as I understand it,
Speaker 2: and if any of you have more insight into this
Speaker 2: situation than I do, you are more than welcome to
Speaker 2: call and join me in conversation. But this little guy
Speaker 2: gets off the bus, supposedly very close to where he lives,
Speaker 2: and somehow, some way, he is hit by the bus
Speaker 2: and dies. Now it's a five year old boy. I
Speaker 2: think I read something that said he might have been
Speaker 2: in the company of his cousin who's eleven years old.
Speaker 2: But how is a five year old child on a
Speaker 2: school bus really unattended? Now? The problem here is that
Speaker 2: we don't know much about this. Apparently, yesterday the Mayor
Speaker 2: of Boston said that the driver of the BPS Boston
Speaker 2: Public School school bus that struck and killed a five
Speaker 2: year old has been placed on leave. According to some
Speaker 2: of the stories that I have read, this particular bus
Speaker 2: on the very afternoon a Monday, Monday afternoon, April twenty eighth,
Speaker 2: that this particular driver apparently had an incident before this
Speaker 2: driving the bus. Now, driving a bus, a school bus
Speaker 2: is not an easy task, okay, It's very different than
Speaker 2: driving a car. I've never driven a school bus. I
Speaker 2: don't want to drive a school bus. It's a big vehicle, okay.
Speaker 2: And so I'm not trying to indict anyone here, But
Speaker 2: I guess the questions that I have for the police department,
Speaker 2: and for the District Attorney's office and the Mayor's office,
Speaker 2: all of whom seemed to be not particularly interested in
Speaker 2: getting to the bottom of this quickly. Apparently according to
Speaker 2: different news reports that I have read, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to summarize here that at two twenty in the afternoon
Speaker 2: on April twenty eighth, which was a Monday, a witness
Speaker 2: saw a school bus full of children hit two parked
Speaker 2: cars but chose not to stop. Now, you cannot hit
Speaker 2: a parked car in a school bus and not realize
Speaker 2: you hit a park car, Okay. The driver then, according
Speaker 2: to the reports, took off on walk Hill Street before
Speaker 2: it made the stop that resulted in the death of
Speaker 2: this little boy in Hyde Park. Now, the two cars
Speaker 2: were hit supposedly in in Mattapan, and then again according
Speaker 2: to the reports after after the bus struck this little guy,
Speaker 2: lends Arthur Joseph, five years old. He's crossing the street
Speaker 2: in front of the bus with his eleven year old cousin.
Speaker 2: That's been reported by Channel five. The bus driver tried
Speaker 2: to flee the scene. And they've already hit two cars
Speaker 2: in Mattapan, and now you're going to flee the scene,
Speaker 2: according to police radio calls reviewed by The Boston Globe.
Speaker 2: In this story, the dispatcher is quoted as saying Operations
Speaker 2: Center to Charlie four thirty five on Wellington Hill. Sir,
Speaker 2: I'm just advising you it's a completely different incident, but
Speaker 2: the same school bus just ran over a child in
Speaker 2: Hyde Park. The dispatcher called to an officer. According to
Speaker 2: the Call of Reviews, the officer said, I have that
Speaker 2: man now. Boston City Councilor Henry Santana, who's a at
Speaker 2: large city councilor, and District City councilor five City Councilor
Speaker 2: Enrique Peppin have demanded a look into the incident and
Speaker 2: how the city operates school buses. Santana is quoted as saying,
Speaker 2: no parents should ever have to encounter this and lose
Speaker 2: their child, No question about that, councilor. This is not common,
Speaker 2: but one of those incidents is one too many. So
Speaker 2: the question is the question is who is driving the bus?
Speaker 2: Why is this bus driver involved in a matter of minutes,
Speaker 2: two separate accidents, one of which took the life of
Speaker 2: a five year old. Now no one suggesting for a
Speaker 2: moment that this driver intentionally did anything to cause the
Speaker 2: death of this child. But it's been now fifteen days,
Speaker 2: fifteen days since this well, actually more than that, it's
Speaker 2: going to be seventeen days. Seventeen days since this incident,
Speaker 2: seventeen days and no rest been made. The driver has
Speaker 2: not been identified. What's going on? So my question is
Speaker 2: pretty simple, are you curious about how this child was killed?
Speaker 2: I guess we know how he was killed by the bus,
Speaker 2: But was the driver not paying attention? Why didn't the
Speaker 2: driver stop at the first accident in which two cars
Speaker 2: were hit? This, to me is befuddling. The police department
Speaker 2: hasn't released a lot of information on this. I've watched
Speaker 2: the news as closely as most people. Some of you
Speaker 2: may watch it more closely. If some of you have
Speaker 2: seen information that explains what happened the sequence of events,
Speaker 2: love to hear from you on that. Where's the district
Speaker 2: Attorney's office on this? If this is a vehicular manslaughter case,
Speaker 2: there should be charges. I mean, I don't think you
Speaker 2: have to be the greatest investigator in the world to
Speaker 2: figure out who the bus drive was of this bus.
Speaker 2: I assume that they've been able to do forensics on
Speaker 2: the bus so that they now have some idea of
Speaker 2: how the child was struck, had to be struck. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't even want to think about what happened to
Speaker 2: this child. So this is a little five year old kid, who,
Speaker 2: of course everybody said, was just an incredible little boy,
Speaker 2: precocious and everything that you would hope to see a
Speaker 2: little child in a child in Boston. Now, if this
Speaker 2: had happened in Weston or Whyland or some of our
Speaker 2: Tonier suburbs Wellesley, do you think it would have taken
Speaker 2: now sixteen seventeen days to have someone charged. Do you
Speaker 2: think it would have taken sixteen or seventeen days? It
Speaker 2: took a while for us just to get the name
Speaker 2: of the victim. Do you think it would have taken fifteen,
Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen days for the district attorney to get up
Speaker 2: and face the cameras and answer some questions, even if
Speaker 2: it's simply to say we are continuing to look into
Speaker 2: this matter, it would seem to me that that's the
Speaker 2: minimum that we should expect. Would it be too much
Speaker 2: for the Mayor of Boston to hold the news conference?
Speaker 2: I just want to open up the lines and do
Speaker 2: you think that this is the way the death of
Speaker 2: a five year old child would be treated in communities
Speaker 2: outside of the city of Boston, Because that question, to
Speaker 2: me is an important question, because the child's life in
Speaker 2: Boston is as important as a child's life in Wellesley
Speaker 2: or Whaland or Weston or any other location. And this,
Speaker 2: to me is this is not a mystery. I don't
Speaker 2: think they need too much information here to under Did
Speaker 2: they do toxology tests on the driver? I would hope
Speaker 2: they did. Did they try to find out if they
Speaker 2: were drugs or alcohol in his system? Why would someone
Speaker 2: hit two cars and then and then watch a five
Speaker 2: year old child get off the bus and then have
Speaker 2: that child involved in an accident with the bus. Doesn't
Speaker 2: make any sense. I hope some of us can make
Speaker 2: some sense. And I also hope that by your phone calls,
Speaker 2: we can soon put some pressure on the officials here,
Speaker 2: the district attorney, who's an elected public official, the mayor
Speaker 2: who's an elected public official, and the police commissioner who
Speaker 2: serves at the at the will of the mayor. In Boston,
Speaker 2: the mayor appoints the police commissioner six seven two five
Speaker 2: six seven nine thirty. I want a vibrant conversation on this,
Speaker 2: because it deserves it. We'll be back on Nightside right after.
Speaker 1: This Night Side with Dany Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, we're talking about the death of a five
Speaker 2: year old boy. And I don't want this child's death
Speaker 2: to go unremembered and and I don't want it to
Speaker 2: slip out of our collective conscience because if someone was
Speaker 2: driving a school bus and they were not paying attention,
Speaker 2: or they were in any way, shape or form under
Speaker 2: any influence of anythings that would detract from their ability
Speaker 2: to act quickly, uh, and to act safely, then they
Speaker 2: need to be to face the music. Let's go to
Speaker 2: Steve and Cambridge. Steve, this this story does really appall me.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if it has the same impact on you.
Speaker 3: Well, I have not been following it because there's not
Speaker 3: much to follow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder I wonder why.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Dan, it really sounds baffling, baffling because
Speaker 3: I mean, if you leave, if you try, if you're
Speaker 3: attempting to leave the scene of a motor vehicle accident
Speaker 3: when their at death has resulted, I mean, that seems
Speaker 3: like an immediately arrestable offense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would seem to be that. It also would
Speaker 2: seem to be pretty clear consciousness of guilt.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he wasn't arrested.
Speaker 2: No, there's no record of that. We don't know. No
Speaker 2: one has been charged. To the best of our knowledge.
Speaker 2: There's been no public announcement from the police department, none
Speaker 2: from the city, none from District Attorney Kevin Hayden's office. Again,
Speaker 2: this is a five year old kid. I mean, you know, look,
Speaker 2: if it was a fifteen year old kid, you might say, well,
Speaker 2: maybe the guy the kid was horse playing with someone
Speaker 2: else and he tripped it, whatever. But it's a five
Speaker 2: year old child. You would think that when a five
Speaker 2: year old child gets off a bus that bus driver
Speaker 2: is especially attentive to make sure that that child not
Speaker 2: only doesn't walk out in front of the bus, but
Speaker 2: also that the child doesn't walk out into traffic. He's
Speaker 2: five year old kid.
Speaker 3: Well, it also sounds like there's evidence that the driver
Speaker 3: was impaired because he hit those two cars.
Speaker 2: I think a reasonable person could come to that conclusion.
Speaker 2: And we've gone now it's I think this would be
Speaker 2: day seventeen. I don't get it. And of course what
Speaker 2: happens is the story phades from the headlines and people
Speaker 2: forget about it and the child is not coming back.
Speaker 2: He's fine.
Speaker 3: But I mean, usually when a child is killed in
Speaker 3: circumstances like this, are not just a child. Usually you
Speaker 3: hear from the parents. I mean, you know, I'm surprised
Speaker 3: that the mother has not been on the news or
Speaker 3: and I would certainly think after fifteen days the family
Speaker 3: would be asking what's going on here.
Speaker 2: Well, the other thing too, is it's possible that the
Speaker 2: parent or parents could be in such shock that they
Speaker 2: could just simply have a tough time just dealing with
Speaker 2: it at this point. I mean, it would seem to
Speaker 2: me that that's possible. They have nothing to be, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, responsible for, and I don't even think you're
Speaker 2: suggesting that.
Speaker 3: No. I mean my point is that because the story
Speaker 3: isn't getting attention, I would think the parents would be outraged.
Speaker 2: Well, I certainly agree with you on that the parents
Speaker 2: should be outraged, But again it's conceivable that I don't know. Normally,
Speaker 2: there's there's a lawyer who will come forward and help
Speaker 2: families like this. There's always a lawyer that comes forward,
Speaker 2: and I'm just totally I'm mystified. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 3: And are you suspecting a cover up by any chance?
Speaker 2: Well, I hope not, and I hope that by doing
Speaker 2: this tonight, we're going to make people talk about it.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine. I cannot imagine that even if the
Speaker 2: bus driver were a you know, a first you know,
Speaker 2: a next of kin relationship with some person in power,
Speaker 2: that that it would be impossible to cover up something
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 3: I mean, what about if you're talking.
Speaker 2: About if you're talking about some guy gets a speeding
Speaker 2: ticket and he's the brother of state senator or state
Speaker 2: represent Yeah, that's what we're not talking We're talking about
Speaker 2: the death of a child.
Speaker 3: Of vehicular What could be a vehicular homicide could be
Speaker 3: if you thought of talking to who is the city
Speaker 3: council for some reason, his name can't well there.
Speaker 2: There are a couple of city councilors that were quoted,
Speaker 2: and Marita today reached out to Counselor Enriquie Peppin, who
Speaker 2: I believe has has spoken about this with the Globe,
Speaker 2: and he was kind of his office was kind that
Speaker 2: it's a callback and he apparently has a had a
Speaker 2: conflict tonight, so so he was unavailable. But believe me,
Speaker 2: if if they had ignored our calls, we would have
Speaker 2: roasted would have roasted it pretty good. So it's when
Speaker 2: someone is gracious enough to call back.
Speaker 3: And oh no, of course, But what about that counselor Kevin.
Speaker 3: His father was a mayor. His name's not coming to
Speaker 3: me now, Well, just like his father.
Speaker 2: Well, I I'm not exactly I think who you might
Speaker 2: be talking about, but I'm not exactly sure, So I
Speaker 2: to bring people.
Speaker 3: He was to the Vatican. He was an ambassador to
Speaker 3: the Vatican.
Speaker 2: Flynn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm talking about his son.
Speaker 2: Right right, Well, Ray Flynn, former mayor Ray Flynn was
Speaker 2: the ambassador of the US ambassador of the Vatican. We
Speaker 2: had ed Flynn on last night. This did not happen
Speaker 2: in his district he represents, He does not even close.
Speaker 2: I believe it was either a councilor Henry Santana or
Speaker 2: Enrique Peppin's district. I think that they're kind of taking
Speaker 2: the lead on this. That's why we called that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I would say, where's the mayor, where's the police chief?
Speaker 2: Of course, the police chief very rarely. He's the lowest
Speaker 2: profile police chief ever I've ever seen. And you know, Mayor,
Speaker 2: Mayor Woo is fighting battles with with Ice and Tom Holman.
Speaker 2: I want some attention paid to this child's death because this.
Speaker 2: If this happened in you know, some of the more
Speaker 2: Tony suburbs, which rightfully so, Wellesley West and Whaland, I
Speaker 2: guarantee you uh, they would be outcry. Uh at this point,
Speaker 2: Uh there was there was no action taken. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is not this is not an unsolved This is
Speaker 2: not a thirty year old cold case that people have
Speaker 2: to work on. It seems to me that there's someone
Speaker 2: who's going to be the suspect here, it's the driver.
Speaker 2: Did the driver get away that day? Was the driver
Speaker 2: taken into custody? Did they do a breathalyzer? I've got
Speaker 2: a lot of questions.
Speaker 3: But answers yet.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not to get the police commissioner in Boston
Speaker 2: on this program. It's not on impossible. So I'm not
Speaker 2: going to give anybody a free pass on this. All
Speaker 2: I'm going to say to the residents of Boston, this
Speaker 2: is your opportunity to call up and express your your
Speaker 2: concern about apparently the lack of concern that a lot
Speaker 2: of officials in Boston elected and otherwise are showing towards
Speaker 2: towards this little boy who is now dead for sixteen
Speaker 2: seventeen days and very sad yeah, you got it, Steve.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the call in. Thank you much
Speaker 2: appreciate the call. Okay, I got wide open lines here.
Speaker 2: If you don't want to talk about this, this one,
Speaker 2: this one really will trouble me because this is this
Speaker 2: may not be your child, but he's a he's a
Speaker 2: five year old boy who is now dead. He's not
Speaker 2: coming back, okay, and so far. Uh, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: they're doing great investigation here, but I don't know that
Speaker 2: that much investigation truly was needed here. And talog toxology
Speaker 2: tests can come back a lot quicker than seventeen days.
Speaker 2: I hope that they were smart enough to do that,
Speaker 2: but there's no one to ask these questions off so
Speaker 2: Boston residents or people who understand what I'm saying six
Speaker 2: one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven,
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. I'm willing to stay talking
Speaker 2: about this because I don't know this child, but I
Speaker 2: know he was someone's child, and I know he was
Speaker 2: five years old, and I know he died seconds after
Speaker 2: he alighted from a Boston public school bus. And this
Speaker 2: never should have happened, and this situation should be addressed
Speaker 2: publicly by the officials in officialdom here in the city
Speaker 2: of Boston, and so far we've heard little to nothing.
Speaker 2: Back on Nightside right after these messages and news at
Speaker 2: the bottom of the.
Speaker 1: Hour night Side with Dan Ray, I'm Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you, I'm sticking with this story because
Speaker 2: I I don't know this little boy, this five year
Speaker 2: old little boy who lost his life, lost his life
Speaker 2: getting off a school bus in the city of Boston.
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you explain it? You don't, you
Speaker 2: don't and there's no explanation so far. The little boy's
Speaker 2: first name is Lenz elie Ns Lenz. Joseph is his
Speaker 2: last name. A student at the UP Academy in Dorchester,
Speaker 2: five years old, five years old, taking the bus to
Speaker 2: school by himself, going home, supposedly was with an eleven
Speaker 2: year old cousin. I'm outraged. I'm outraged that we've heard
Speaker 2: nothing from the powers that be in this city. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's supposedly the safest city in America. Well, it wasn't
Speaker 2: a safe city for this little five year old boy.
Speaker 2: Was it? Simple as that? We haven't heard much from
Speaker 2: the mayor. We have heard nothing, to the best of
Speaker 2: my knowledge. From the police commissioner, and we've heard absolutely
Speaker 2: nothing from the Suffolk County District Attorney. So there's more
Speaker 2: than enough blame to go around. Let's go. We're going
Speaker 2: to go to Anna in Marlborough. Anna, thank you very
Speaker 2: much for calling in. You were first, your second this hour.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Annah, Hi, Hi, I'm calling because I think
Speaker 4: you're right.
Speaker 5: I mean, a five year old death should it cannot
Speaker 5: be swept under the rug. And this story deserves some
Speaker 5: outrage from the community.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not accusing anyone, by the way, make it
Speaker 2: clear of sweeping it under the rug. But it would
Speaker 2: seem to me that on a story like this, not
Speaker 2: only does the family deserve answers, but the community deserves
Speaker 2: the answers. And they and and it should and the
Speaker 2: answer this is not one you know when when you
Speaker 2: know when when there's a horrible murder and someone has
Speaker 2: found in the woods and they've been there for three
Speaker 2: days and the police have no idea and they're looking
Speaker 2: for help, and they're anybody who has seeing this person
Speaker 2: in the last week, Please let us that's a different situation.
Speaker 2: We know what happened. This kid, this little boy was
Speaker 2: hit by a school bus that he had just gotten
Speaker 2: off and the state and the same bus allegedly uh
Speaker 2: hit two cars a few minutes earlier in another location.
Speaker 2: I mean, do we need elliott ness to put that together?
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, obviously I don't have any of the answers, but
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 4: Have a few questions. Yeah, So, whatn't Boston uh desperately
Speaker 4: searching for bus drivers at the beginning of the school year.
Speaker 2: To be always searching for bus drivers. Yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 2: that that that's true. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh so I could have sworn though that when I
Speaker 5: was driving to work for the beginning of this school year,
Speaker 5: is that that was the constant thing, is that there
Speaker 5: was there was such a shortage, that there was such
Speaker 5: a shortage of bus drivers that they were looking for
Speaker 5: bus drivers.
Speaker 4: And so I guess.
Speaker 5: I'm wondering, like, did they follow the proper process to
Speaker 5: hire the bus driver? Did they do the accurate checks
Speaker 5: on that bus driver to make sure that that this was,
Speaker 5: you know, a safe person to be driving children.
Speaker 2: I'd like to I'd like to know how long had
Speaker 2: this been driving? Had this guy been a is he
Speaker 2: a veteran driver, or is he somebody who uh you know,
Speaker 2: became a driver two weeks ago or three weeks ago.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's some fundamental questions here, and yes, and
Speaker 2: we're not getting any answers, any guidance from what is
Speaker 2: considered to be one. You know, it's a it's a
Speaker 2: safe city, right, Well, it wasn't safe for this little boy.
Speaker 2: And it's it's disgraceful in my opinion. And and there's
Speaker 2: no if somebody comes, if they were to come forward
Speaker 2: and say, look, we've looked at this h we're doing
Speaker 2: some toxology. We want to make sure that everything we're
Speaker 2: going to charge this driver with is in order. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's fine, but are they doing like a worldwide search
Speaker 2: for something and they put out an all point bulletin.
Speaker 5: For I mean no, And that's what makes you think
Speaker 5: that there's got to be something that you know, it
Speaker 5: blows back on them, and that's why this hasn't come
Speaker 5: out yet. That's my that's my gut ceiling. It's it's
Speaker 5: not a good feeling. But like I have been involved
Speaker 5: in you know, very large companies where you know, you
Speaker 5: report these things. I mean even I've personally experienced the fact,
Speaker 5: like I've driven around with a driver that was very,
Speaker 5: very unsafe and reported that, oh, you know this, this
Speaker 5: driver is unsafe, and when something happened with that particular driver,
Speaker 5: right there was no news of that there was it
Speaker 5: was almost like, oh, this this is shocking and we
Speaker 5: don't know what's going on. Well, the reality is that
Speaker 5: that the background you know, research and checks and bounces
Speaker 5: were not conducted.
Speaker 4: Well, An, that's you.
Speaker 2: You've read my mind a little bit here. So but
Speaker 2: but again I just think that we gotta we need
Speaker 2: to get the uh. Look, I'm not going to ignore
Speaker 2: a story and and be complicit uh in any sort
Speaker 2: of a cover up, if indeed there's a cover up.
Speaker 2: I'm not alleging this a cover up, but as somebody
Speaker 2: who's a talk show host and who knows Boston pretty
Speaker 2: well and understands how this city functions, uh, I felt
Speaker 2: I would bring it out tonight. I wish that there
Speaker 2: were more people like you who picked up the phone.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Tim and Wilburn and Sandy
Speaker 2: and west Roxbury and hopefully some more folks. Uh. I
Speaker 2: feel sometimes like a modern day Paul Revere. I just
Speaker 2: want to ring, you know, and wake people up, that's all, you.
Speaker 5: Know what, Dan Ray, I love that And as a
Speaker 5: mother of two young children. I say, you know, keep
Speaker 5: it going, keep it ringing, because this kid deserves it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's what I've done for a long time,
Speaker 2: both in television and now in radio, and I feel
Speaker 2: a responsibility, uh, in my opinion as simple as that. Anna,
Speaker 2: thank you so much. How old are your kiddos? Are
Speaker 2: they in this age range we're talking about?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've got an almost four year old and
Speaker 5: a one year old, so yeah, good, yeah, and this
Speaker 5: kid deserved that. He needs to have his name screamed
Speaker 5: loud and proud, and we.
Speaker 2: Good for you know what happened to him. Anna, thanks
Speaker 2: so much for listening to Nightside. I'll keep your company
Speaker 2: any night. Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Right, thank you, good night.
Speaker 2: Please tell you friends about Nightside. Good night. We'll be
Speaker 2: back right after this break. I got a couple of
Speaker 2: open lines six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty
Speaker 2: six one seven, nine three ten thirty. Uh, this is
Speaker 2: your cause to everyone. Believe me, this is your cause,
Speaker 2: because if this can happen to this five year old child,
Speaker 2: don't think it couldn't happen to your five year old
Speaker 2: child or your five year old grandchild. I wish I
Speaker 2: could say what I'm really feeling right now, but and
Speaker 2: maybe I will when I get back back on Nightside
Speaker 2: after this.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: By the way, we welcome new callers. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if Ianna has called before, but that was a really
Speaker 2: interesting call. I hope more of you will participate on
Speaker 2: this issue because you may never have met that little
Speaker 2: boy who you never will meet Lendsay Joseph, but he
Speaker 2: is the same as any other five year old boy
Speaker 2: and he should have been protected. Tim Is and Wilburn. Tim,
Speaker 2: thanks so much for calling. I appreciated you.
Speaker 6: And next on Nightside, Dan, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2: You're welcome.
Speaker 6: Andy, how you said a little while ago, if you
Speaker 6: don't want to talk about it, you can talk about
Speaker 6: an out of the topics. I don't want to talk
Speaker 6: about it, and I don't even want to think about it.
Speaker 6: My guard who was five years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think, unfortunately, Tim, I think that we
Speaker 2: need to talk about it because at this point, all
Speaker 2: of the political leaders, the mayor has not talked about it.
Speaker 2: She referred everything to the police commissioner yesterday. The police
Speaker 2: commissioner is hardly ever available. Uh. And the district attorney
Speaker 2: he hasn't said anything about it. Read the newspapers, you know, people,
Speaker 2: anybody I prepped for this hour and the information.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: We had the name of the boy, the little boy,
Speaker 2: but he got How could this guy take his bus
Speaker 2: and hit two part cars and just keep rolling and
Speaker 2: then strike and kill a five year old that had
Speaker 2: been on his boss? He watched the kid get off
Speaker 2: the bus. Did he did? He? Just all of them
Speaker 2: get out of here?
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, well, you know, you're right. You know,
Speaker 6: I don't don't want to think about it, but it
Speaker 6: should be talked about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I really mean that, because what happens
Speaker 2: is that people who would like this to go away.
Speaker 2: I have no idea how these folks are qualified. What
Speaker 2: is this guy's background had? You know, Look, if this
Speaker 2: is a guy who had some sort of a medical seizure, okay, fine,
Speaker 2: but but I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 6: They have they haven't investigated this at all.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they've investigated. I can't say
Speaker 2: that because we're not being given any any information. Could
Speaker 2: have they investigated it, shore could have they solved it?
Speaker 2: Maybe but if they have, if they figured it out,
Speaker 2: let's find out what charge is being brought and if not,
Speaker 2: why not. Those are the questions that need to be asked.
Speaker 2: And the officials in Boston have no interest in dealing
Speaker 2: with those issues because it wasn't their five year old child.
Speaker 2: And if it up, I have no idea. I'm not
Speaker 2: I don't want to go that far yet. All I'm
Speaker 2: trying to do is prod them, and I'm hoping people
Speaker 2: will call and prod them and let them know that
Speaker 2: there is a real public interest in this. It's as
Speaker 2: simple as that.
Speaker 6: But I appreciate you, Jim, if I could right you
Speaker 6: said you can change the topic. I met doctor Sal
Speaker 6: at Renoli's Yeah, let's do.
Speaker 2: This, Tim, Tim, let me do this. I don't want it.
Speaker 2: I was speaking parenthetically. I don't want to change the topic.
Speaker 2: I want I appreciate your calling in, and your call
Speaker 2: is important to me, but I want to keep rolling
Speaker 2: in this topic. Okay, And we will thank you for
Speaker 2: your comment about doctor Sal. He's a great guy, and
Speaker 2: do me a favorite. Next time you call in. I'll
Speaker 2: give you an opportunity to say whatever you want about
Speaker 2: doctor Sal. I just don't want to distract from the
Speaker 2: importance of this topic.
Speaker 6: I hope you understand understandable. Thank you would taking my call.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Thank thanks so much. Let me go to Sandy
Speaker 2: in West Roxbury. Sandy, you are the first person from
Speaker 2: Boston tonight, the city of Boston who had the decency
Speaker 2: to call in. Thank you, Sandy, go right ahead.
Speaker 7: Well, it was hard for me to call because I
Speaker 7: get so angry that it's time to me.
Speaker 2: That's the problem I'll talk about the problem is. The
Speaker 2: problem is people aren't getting angry enough Siddy. You know,
Speaker 2: I mean, because you know, kind of slip into her
Speaker 2: own little world and well it wasn't my kid. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know the kid. What difference does it make?
Speaker 2: Makes a hell of a lot of difference.
Speaker 7: Well, not to this administration. She and those that follow her.
Speaker 7: They ignore anything that's controversial unless it's going to bring
Speaker 7: her into the spotlight. Positively. She has no interest. I
Speaker 7: believe what you were talking about last night. They're not
Speaker 7: interested in Tanya.
Speaker 2: Whether and she's going to stay there until July twenty ninth,
Speaker 2: when she's sentenced. I didn't realize the sentence date was
Speaker 2: put off that long. She's got another two months of paychecks.
Speaker 2: And by the way, by the way, since you mentioned that,
Speaker 2: let me just take the opportunity to night or that
Speaker 2: today at the bot City Council we had Ed Flynn
Speaker 2: on last night. He said the resolution that today was tabled,
Speaker 2: which is just a little, you know way in which
Speaker 2: politicians get rid of things. That it was tabled by
Speaker 2: one of the city councilors. And I want to make
Speaker 2: sure that that I give the proper credit to the
Speaker 2: city councilor who tabled it, and I have that information here.
Speaker 2: Come on, let me get that get up here real quickly.
Speaker 2: I don't want to tie you up any further here. Uh,
Speaker 2: the that was tabled today by city council Liz Breden
Speaker 2: or Brayden cut off debate and asked to send it
Speaker 2: to a committee for a hearing. This is any a
Speaker 2: text from Ed Flynn where it will die. We obviously
Speaker 2: didn't vote in the future of council Fernandez Anderson. This
Speaker 2: is not profiles in courage. Its profiles and cowardice is
Speaker 2: what it actually is. And that's off to Ed Flynn.
Speaker 7: I love it when the mayor goes on and on
Speaker 7: about how the city is so safe. That's only if
Speaker 7: you count the people that were stabbed and didn't die,
Speaker 7: the people that were assaulted and didn't die, the people
Speaker 7: that were robbed and didn't die. She's only counting the
Speaker 7: people who died. There were so many other people that
Speaker 7: were shot and didn't die. I mean, we have a
Speaker 7: huge high crime rate. People aren't terrified going out at night.
Speaker 2: You know, Well, there's an election, it's up it's up
Speaker 2: to people. I would I would hoped that I would
Speaker 2: have heard from Josh Craft tonight. To be honest with you,
Speaker 2: it seems to me that this is an issue that
Speaker 2: everybody who lives in Boston should be concerned about. I'm
Speaker 2: not claiming that's cover up. All I'm saying is we
Speaker 2: need to know, we need we need an update in
Speaker 2: this investigation. Seventeen days after the death of this little boy.
Speaker 7: Well, we need a change of focus. I mean, they're
Speaker 7: not focused that what they what was the big thing today?
Speaker 7: Ranked choice voting?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's that's that That's going to solve all problems.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's very important.
Speaker 2: Very important. Forget forget the little boy who is now dead.
Speaker 2: You know what, here's we're gonna do, Sandy, because you
Speaker 2: called in and because Tim called in, We're gonna carry
Speaker 2: this into the next hour, so I have to cut off.
Speaker 2: Say good night to you, but thank you for being
Speaker 2: the one person from Boston who had the courage and
Speaker 2: the intestinal fortitude to call in. And I commend you
Speaker 2: for it. Thanks, Sandy, I appreciate you. You're welcome. Those
Speaker 2: are in the lines, stay there if you're not, there's
Speaker 2: one line open, six one, seven thirty. It is time
Speaker 2: to wake up, everybody. It is wake up and time
Speaker 2: to smell the coffee. There's a little boy five years
Speaker 2: old dead. You didn't know him, maybe you never met him,
Speaker 2: maybe you never even saw him, but that child is dead,
Speaker 2: and at this point the city has said nothing about
Speaker 2: the cause of death, what happened to him? Uh it is.
Speaker 2: It is a conspiracy of silence that should never be
Speaker 2: tolerated anywhere. We should on a daily basis get an
Speaker 2: update as to where this investigation is. You do not
Speaker 2: need Inspector Clouseau to solve this problem. To solve this case,
Speaker 2: in my opinion back on night Side is you can
Speaker 2: tell I'm a little wound up. I wanna get you
Speaker 2: wound up too.